PRIDE Toronto Boots CAFÉ

by W.F. Price on July 1, 2014

Barbara Kay, who spoke at the Men’s Conference in Michigan, wrote a column yesterday about the arbitrary ejection of CAFÉ from Toronto’s Pride parade, held last weekend:

The annual Pride event in Canada’s biggest city is supposed to be a celebration of all things and causes relating to gay culture and, more broadly, to formerly marginalized sexual identities. It’s supposed to be a big tent. But as the treatment of CAFÉ shows us, only those groups with a politically correct agenda are seen as acceptable.

According to its own policy, Pride Toronto doesn’t permit cancellations after June 21 — thereby ensuring that groups have an opportunity to respond to complaints lodged against them. CAFÉ, which has charity status (giving them more legal standing than most of the other participating groups), took part last year without incident and had two months ago successfully registered to walk this year, their name appearing in official Pride literature.

CAFÉ was given no substantive reason for the rejection, just a note from the Pride organizers: “It has come to our attention that the work of your organization may contravene the spirit of the mission, vision, and values of Pride Toronto and WorldPride.” And that was it. Their right to march was withdrawn. At a stroke, CAFÉ was lumped in with pedophilia-promoting groups such as Men Loving Boys Loving Men, the only other type of group I could find to have been spurned by Pride as inconsistent with its mission.

Although CAFÉ’s broad mandate is freedom of speech, much of its activity has focused on raising awareness of men’s issues — including those that affect, say, the right of gay men (and all men) to have equal parenting rights under Canadian law. But feminists regard any such advocacy as a threat to their dogma. And so feminist activism, occasionally aggressive, has attended almost every men’s rights speaker sponsored by CAFÉ on Canadian university campuses. (I was one such speaker two years ago.) It therefore isn’t much of a stretch to infer that CAFÉ was booted from Pride because of the complaints of militant feminists.

Kay mentions the irony inherent in Pride’s rejection of CAFÉ, but perhaps as a Canadian she isn’t aware of the height of hypocrisy it represents. Gay organizations have been fighting for years to butt into American parades and organizations, such as Boston and New York’s St. Patrick’s Day parades, which are Catholic, family-oriented events. They weren’t fighting merely for the right to participate as marchers, which has never been an issue, but rather as out-and-proud homosexuals. In recent years they’ve enlisted mayors’ support, and a number of mayors have indeed condemned the Irish Americans for choosing not to celebrate homosexuality alongside their ethnic heritage and Catholic faith.

So one would expect the Pride parades themselves to be bastions of tolerance and fairness, right? Wrong! Step out of line just a tiny bit from the official dogma, which includes gender feminism, and you’re not welcome. Remember that “LGBT” starts with L, and most lesbians don’t take kindly to straight men who ask for equal treatment under the law.

Personally, I avoid these Pride parades if at all possible. The only time I saw one was as a kid when I lived near the neighborhood that used to host them in Seattle. That was over twenty years ago. But some MRA groups, including CAFÉ, think that the best way to advance men’s rights is through the same left-activist route that worked for women, gays and minorities.

I’m not so sure, but it can’t hurt to try, so I support the intrepid souls who are willing to give it a shot. Might as well work all angles, and see which one pays off.

There is actually precedent for radical shifts in the left coalition. Take the support for Zionism, for example, which was pretty much ironclad in the left from the 1970s through the 1990s. Somehow, that unraveled in the early 2000s, and now anti-Zionism is the new norm, with groups of gays actually marching against Israel, despite that country’s tolerance of homosexuality to a degree unseen in the rest of the Middle East.

Could the same happen to feminists? It’s possible. The radicals, mainly aging lesbian gender-feminists, are not really natural allies of the trans people or the gay men. More like a marriage of convenience. If CAFÉ affirmed trans rights, for example, the organization could start to make some headway. That’s something I’d never sign up for (I’m highly suspicious of any group that denies the reality and immutability of one’s sex at birth, because that carries a high potential for abuse of men), but as a tactic it might work.

So support for CAFÉ is in order, even if some of us might think their efforts are doomed to failure. Simply pressing the issue does make a difference and, after all, we might be wrong.

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cxj July 1, 2014 at 12:30

Can’t say this surprises me. In fact, I’m much more surprised an mra group was allowed in Pride in the first place.

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Mr. Freeze July 1, 2014 at 13:21

I had already been “out” for a few years as a teenager before I got sucked into The Gay Cult. I was right there at the community center when it was officially decided to switch the official placements of the “G” and the “L” within their Public Relations alphabet soup.

It was 1986. Maybe ’87.

Basically … the radfem lesbians had planted their foul flag in the mountains of corpses of countless gay men. Exploiting the AIDS decimation to insert their own agenda.

Hijacking yet another Civil Rights movement for themselves.

They think Stonewall was a riot?

Just wait ’till the street queens start connecting the real dots en masse.

These cunts will be toast.

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geographybeefinalisthimself July 1, 2014 at 13:37

All feminists use homophobic terms for any man, regardless of sexual orientation, who disagrees with feminism.

One would think that gay and bisexual men would reject feminism for this reason, as well as the fact that feminists don’t give a shit about prostate cancer, testicular cancer, penile cancer, or hemophilia (as a sex-linked trait, there are very few females with the trait on both of their X chromosomes). Being gay or bisexual does not protect a man from any of these cancers and if people are born gay, nothing happens in the womb to make hemophilia and homosexuality mutually exclusive.

Feminists also don’t give a shit about workplace injuries or fatalities despite benefiting from the mostly-male labor in injury- and fatality-prone occupations. While gay men may be underrepresented in these occupations, there are probably men who do these occupations who are gay, just as there are gay homeless men and gay soldiers.

Feminists also don’t give a shit about AIDS unless it is caused by heterosexual sex, as caring about AIDS caused by male homosexual sex would force them to care about men.

If you want a feminist to care about anything with a Y chromosome, put a gun to her temple.

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Fred Hollinger July 1, 2014 at 13:57

This just goes to show that the organizers of these “Pride” parades do not have any tolerance for anything or anybody that are “different” and are simply gay Fascists. They should bring their intolerance out of the closet for all to see and dress in Fascist garb with black uniforms with armbands with the pink letters G.G. Gay Gestapo.

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cxj July 1, 2014 at 14:47

Regarding the irish/st Patricks day parade, does this receive public funding of any kind? If so I could kinda see why they’d want to be “represented” but by that logic every group would have to be represented in every parade and event until the runaway train effect would render such events indecipherable and thus pointless. I’m not against gays in any way and frankly don’t care if they are in irish parades or not but also recognize st Patricks day IS. A Catholic holiday and Catholicism IS anti gay. Idk what to tell the gays here lol. Tbh, making them stand out particularly in a parade like this, as opposed to just having them March normally just makes gays out to be all special and different as opposed to just another normal group, which is what I consider them and would probably help them more. Acceptance and tolerance are not the same thing as promotion and exhibition.

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Uncle Elmer July 1, 2014 at 14:49

Intolerance is a liberal hallmark. The “Raw Story” published a sneering essay on the Detroit men’s conference and banned me from commenting after I posted 3 polite though contrarian comments. Their faithful readership however shrieked all manner of insults at me including the standard homoerotic accusations.

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The Brass Cat July 1, 2014 at 14:49

The Left is essentially a collection of ideologies that have nothing whatsoever in common other than an oppressor/oppressed dichotomy. All of these ideologies (or groups, if you prefer) placed on a Venn diagram would have a very small overlap area. Theyhave more differences than commonalities. Environmentalists, LGBTers, racialists, and Feminists all support the same political candidates and all support each other. They are unified in hatred, and hatred alone.

More to the point, I’m glad to see that 1) CAFE exists, and 2) the Leftist event organizers had a shit-fit about CAFE. This exposes, if only for a moment, the actual rift between LGBT and Feminism. The truth is exposed and people can either ignore/deny or accept it (just like the Red or Blue Pill metaphor).

This is exactly the kind of Alinskyite subterfuge that is necessary to combat Leftism in general, and Leftism is the enemy of Men’s Rights. (Remember, “heteronormative” men have already been deemed the oppressors therefore they are forbidden to be considered the oppressed, even when supported by gay men.) The Leftist dichotomy is very ridged, brittle in fact, and is subject to fracture when attacked by a group that simply denies or disproves the dichotomy and has the guts to speak up.

On a sidenote…

One tactic of the Left is co-opting. They get their henchmen (mostly henchwomen) into key positions to cause systemic effects, or provide a adequately vague but misleading analogue to their opponents. I think the Men’s Movement (notice no “rights”) either is or has become an attempt at co-opting the MRM. This is so heinous because they snatch up men who are looking for answers and feed them a load of bullshit that’ll keep those men confused for years.

Example: http://mankindproject.org/ If you throw up a little in your mouth, don’t worry, it just means you are Red Pill.

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The Brass Cat July 1, 2014 at 15:03

geographybeefinalisthimself says:

“Feminists also don’t give a shit about AIDS unless it is caused by heterosexual sex, as caring about AIDS caused by male homosexual sex would force them to care about men.”

Feminists do in fact give several shits about AIDS because “African American women and Latinas are disproportionately affected at all stages of HIV infection.” http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/gender/women/index.html (Now, if we are talking about honestly care or paying lip-service, that’s a whole other conversation.)

Dude, a minority woman with AIDS is the oppressed victimhood trifecta.

And I bet a dastardly straight man gave her AIDS, too!

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gender foreigner July 1, 2014 at 15:20

One can recall that the whole homosexuality-is-good top-down frenzy started just over 10 years ago. In women’s Canada, Parliament voted 100% that the definition of marriage was that of one man and one woman, period.

Then, a homosexuality group protested to the Supreme Feminist Court of Canada which ruled that homosexual marriages must be required by law. The Feminist/French Charter of Rights (Charter of Polyaparthaid–women against men, French against English, colored against whites, nonAngloSaxons against Anglo Saxons, foreign-born against domestically born, homosexuals against heterosexuals and nonChristians against Christians—Targeting Groups against Target groups) created by Pierre Trudeau (17 April, 1982–but came into effect two years later) has been an instrument of usurpation of popular will.

The French Civil Code has trumped the English Common Law and, as such, the private law is French in all jurisdictions in Canada just as the French Canadian/Roman Catholic hymn, “O Canada” trumped God Save the Queen as national anthem.

Common Law is harder to overthrow than top-down law (Civil Code–”only in Quebec” presumably but through the Trudeau Charter, it has trumped the Common Law). French Imperialism in Canada is complete via the Charter and national anthem. “Bilingual today: French Tomorrow” (a book written by a retired Royal Canadian Navy officer almost 50 years ago) proves to be correct/accurate in a wider sweep than that officer anticipated/predicted.

The ins are in and the outs are out. Period. This discussion is just about another aspect of the same grand/large picture as ill intended.

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geographybeefinalisthimself July 1, 2014 at 15:56

@ The Brass Cat

But here they are giving a shit because it involves female African-Americans and Latinas. I DID say that they don’t give a shit when the person who has AIDS is male. You are right though about the fact that they hate males who give females AIDS, though they hate anyone with a Y chromosome, no exceptions.

Also, isn’t PRIDE going to have a massive problem as Canada becomes increasingly Muslim? Hamid Zaher was not only disowned by his whole family for writing his memoir of growing up as a gay man in Afghanistan, but Canadians of Afghan heritage won’t talk to him either. When Muslims don’t like homosexuality, they both don’t mess around and they don’t make any exceptions:

http://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2013/03/17/gay_afghan_man_speaks_out_on_deep_cultural_taboo.html

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Anonymous Reader July 1, 2014 at 16:32

Brass Cat, that ManKind project looks a little like the old drum-circle scam combined with The Good Mangina Project.
As you say, seems to be basically a false flag operation to keep men hoodwinked.

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fall July 1, 2014 at 16:49

Does pride go before or after the fall?

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The Brass Cat July 1, 2014 at 17:13

@geographybeefinalisthimself

It is really fascinating, academically, isn’t it?

Somebody could literally write a textbook on exploring the structure and dynamics of lefty hate. They figuratively receive hate merit badges, but there is a hierarchy or ranking system where some badges are worth more than others viz. that particular ideology. Feminism’s most valuable badge is Hating Men, followed by Hating Heterosexuals, followed by Hating Caucasians. So, while they hate ALL men, they have more hate for men+caucasian+straight. So if forced to pick, they’ll side with a black man over a white man because Merit Badges! S0…..

[male+AIDS+straight] < {[female+AIDS+white] < [female+AIDS+black]}

Ok, I'm being very absurd to emphasize how the various ideologies of the Left have to dance around each other.

Your OP said that Feminists “don’t give a shit about AIDS unless it is caused by heterosexual sex, as caring about AIDS caused by male homosexual sex would force them to care about men.” I’m saying they give Less Than Zero Shits if said men are gay and/or minorities (lip-service, perhaps, but necessary because of the Merit Badges). And they give a tremendous number (billions) of shits when a woman has AIDS because of a man. See: Africa.

But I agree with the overall thrust of your post.

FYI, I capitalize Leftism and Feminism because the names of religions are always capitalized.

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The Brass Cat July 1, 2014 at 17:20

Anonymous Reader said:

Brass Cat, that ManKind project looks a little like the old drum-circle scam combined with The Good Mangina Project.
As you say, seems to be basically a false flag operation to keep men hoodwinked.

Bingo.

What’s worse is it is everywhere. Did some googling of my locale to see if there are any active MRM groups and all I could find was these drum-circles that promise to help you “conquer your anger” (and other assorted new-agey tripe).

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cxj July 1, 2014 at 17:32

@brass cat:

“The Left is essentially a collection of ideologies that have nothing whatsoever in common other than an oppressor/oppressed dichotomy. All of these ideologies (or groups, if you prefer) placed on a Venn diagram would have a very small overlap area. Theyhave more differences than commonalities. Environmentalists, LGBTers, racialists, and Feminists all support the same political candidates and all support each other. They are unified in hatred, and hatred alone.”

There was a return of kings article a while ago about this and why if the Republicans disappeared the left would fragment apart, having no common enemy. The suggestion the author offered was therefore to disband the Republicans and put more effort into a new libertarian party. A sort of ballsy divide and conquer approach. I wonder if it would work?

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The Brass Cat July 1, 2014 at 18:20

@cxj

There was a return of kings article a while ago about this and why if the Republicans disappeared the left would fragment apart, having no common enemy. The suggestion the author offered was therefore to disband the Republicans and put more effort into a new libertarian party. A sort of ballsy divide and conquer approach. I wonder if it would work?

Well I suspect we may get to find out. On their current trajectory the Republicans will soon be a permanently minority party, unless some things change. We’re talking about the party that lost to Barack Obama . . . TWICE.

With a one party system factions within the party will arise and divide it. It seems reasonable to assume if this one party was the Democrats it would break along the fault lines of Leftist groups. Leftism is self-limiting in much the same way as cancer is self-limiting: death of the patient.

As awful as the Repubs are on some issues, I’m afraid they are the only thing plugging the hole in the dam.

I know I keep harping on about Leftism on a Men’s Rights forum, but one cannot ignore the fact that Feminism is just one more bitter fruit of Leftism.

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Dire Badger July 1, 2014 at 18:34

cxj-
No, because the left is wonderfully talented at finding new groups to hate.

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epoche* July 1, 2014 at 20:02

Could the same happen to feminists? It’s possible. The radicals, mainly aging lesbian gender-feminists, are not really natural allies of the trans people or the gay men. More like a marriage of convenience. If CAFÉ affirmed trans rights, for example, the organization could start to make some headway.
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What happened to our world so that our political hopes are dependent on allying with trans groups? Maybe we need to start challenging some of the assertions of the civil rights era reformers. I was having such a discussion with a gay friend a mine about my objections to some aspects of the civil rights movement and he said “I can see what you are saying, it raises issues for which the government is not competent to resolve”. We could explain to people such as Miriam Weeks (The Duke Porn Star) that had the federal government not banned intelligence testing because it would result in a disparate impact she might not have to suck dick to pay for tuition. http://time.com/2873280/duke-porn-star-belle-knox-college-cost/ Maybe even companies such as Coursera could certify people without the “help” of the federal government. Author James Kalb discusses these problems in his book “Against Inclusiveness”. The basic problems of male disposability can only be addressed by allowing men to discriminate against those who would do them harm.

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epoche* July 1, 2014 at 21:03

Also, isn’t PRIDE going to have a massive problem as Canada becomes increasingly Muslim? Hamid Zaher was not only disowned by his whole family for writing his memoir of growing up as a gay man in Afghanistan, but Canadians of Afghan heritage won’t talk to him either. When Muslims don’t like homosexuality, they both don’t mess around and they don’t make any exceptions.
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We seem to be exhausting the content of liberalism. The fatal error of liberal is its belief in rational harmony. It has an insane propensity to want to hold together ideas that are in no way compatible with one another not just for social harmony but as a part of its eschatology. The liberals have no response to muslim hatred of gays because that would entail admitting that sometimes it really isnt possible for us to all get along.

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gender foreigner July 1, 2014 at 21:56

Dear geographybeefinalisthimself July 1, 2014 at 15:56:

As per, “Also, isn’t PRIDE going to have a massive problem as Canada becomes increasingly Muslim?…,” I’ve tried to get Muslims to admit that their religion is more pro-family/anti-feminist than the Frauenreich of Canada is but they just wimp-out in utter fearful obedience to the Feminazis. They’re utterly spineless wimps who refuse to stand up against feminazi women, period.

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evilwhitemalempire July 1, 2014 at 22:35

“If CAFÉ affirmed trans rights, for example, the organization could start to make some headway.”
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Yes it could!

It’s no secret that dykes do NOT like men posing as women.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBUNdv2sVzY

I mean IF you’re going to try and reach out to the left then this would be the way to do it.

And even if CAFE is unsuccessful they will still have done a considerable amount of damage to the MacBLT community.

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Norm July 1, 2014 at 22:42

The Canadian tv networks gave massive coverage to the homosexual parade. I switched the channel. I was in Victoria, BC for a month and saw a vodka add and they said they were proud supporters of “pride 2014″. The brand started with an “S”. We should boycott these products and let the 2 per cent support them.

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evilwhitemalempire July 1, 2014 at 22:52

“But some MRA groups, including CAFÉ, think that the best way to advance men’s rights is through the same left-activist route that worked for women, gays and minorities.”
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That would be because they lack the maturity to vote for people that agree with women 50% of the time (the only game in town) in order to stop women from voting in people that agree with women 100% of the time.

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Towgunner July 2, 2014 at 06:23

Sigh, what are we getting out of all this nonsense with homosexuals? I mean, what is really being accomplished here…homosexuals feel better about themselves et al? K, case and point…for the rest of us non-homosexuals, 99%, this has no bearing on us, so, why are we having to endure the constant barrage of homosexualism? Look, this thing needs to go away, its becoming outrageous and, above all, just a waste of time and energy. Some complete stranger, hostile to my “lifestyle” to boot, feels a little better after being sodomized? And the world is burning, the economy sucks and we’re losing our freedoms? I think we’ve heard enough…

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Uncle Elmer July 2, 2014 at 07:21

As the Alpha Woman meme heats up, media is finding gold in manosphere clickbait.

From the Press Kit :

Manosphere, def: A loose but growing collection of blogs habited by angry, violent misogynists, homophobes, phony “Pick Up Artists”, right-wing racists, and other losers who think women owe them sex and should not have rights.

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Uncle Elmer July 2, 2014 at 07:28

And at the bottom of the essay amidst an eye-jarring array of popups and celebrity links :

More from Salon We Recommend
USA Today kills ludicrous Ann Coulter story!
Death by cunnilingus
My sexuality after porn
Big penis, small penis
Brad Pitt keeps breaking his silence on how boring marriage to Jennifer Aniston…
Anal sex: Science’s last taboo

Say what you will Salon, but take note that the “manosphere” is devoid of this clutter.

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tom47 July 2, 2014 at 10:54

Hoping that the Left will disintegrate or go away is like hoping the wolves will get tired of chasing you before they catch you and eat you alive. What you need if a fire to keep them at bay, ( sites like this are the fire ), a stick to beat them off, ( a movement ), and a political weapon to destroy them with, ( certainly not the current Republican party ). You need to get them on the run, trap them in their den, and destroy them.

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Jaego July 2, 2014 at 11:05

Homosexuals tend to be rebels against the Natural Order and Transsexuals are even more so. They rebel against what we are trying to restore. We are Counter-Revolutionaries. I don’t see any common ground. Having a penis just isn’t enough. Culture matters too, not just anatomy or race. We’ll lose two or more men for every tranny that we “pick up”.

Truly Conservative Homosexuals who repudiate the whole modern Gay Movement could have a place of course.

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Mr. Freeze July 2, 2014 at 12:58

As alien and bizarre as it all is to most, I’d like to point out a few key differences between a good old fashioned Trannie and the newer, more campus-bound *Trans creatures.

In my extensive personal experience with both of these (VERY) different camps … I’ve found the former to be tough and resourceful and often really making their way and handling their business much as a man would. Having still been judged by a masculine standard their whole lives, in spite of their peccadillos. And managing to make it work, regardless.

The ones who’ve survived, anyhow.

They tend to be bright and tough and hot and hilarious, with a (WAY) more realistic view of the world, their own biology, and society at large. However addled unfortunately by drugs and/or rage and trauma.

The latter … *Trans harpies (Zinnia Jones/Parker Molloy/Etc.) are just some heavily indoctrinated wannabe radical feminist lesbians with slightly meatier clits … most being too cowardly to get “The Chop”. They are most easily recognized through their rhetorical cliche’, their lazy, self-righteous assholism, and their completely humorless unfuckability.

This is all ignoring, of course, the FTM’s (Female To Male).

They’re just some actual radical feminist lesbians.

I’ve found that most MTF’s do it for sex, fun, and fashion.

Most FTM’s do it for politics and pity points.

*End Introductory PSA*

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keyster July 2, 2014 at 13:21

Does preferring sexual relations with their own sex really deserve protected/identifiable group status? If I would much rather suck cock than eat pussy or enjoy being anally penetrated, is it really a public matter that must be shouted from the hills? Sexual identity is about as personal as we can get. No one really cares. It’s not that interesting.

Here in Boulder County the county clerk proceeded to allow the issuance of Marriage licenses to gay couples, much to the chagrin of the state attorney general. So far about 80 licenses were issued, predominantly to lesbian couples. This is out of a population of over 300,000. If this was that important to them and makes them happy I wish them well. The institution of marriage ceased being a sacred and powerful commitment decades ago; a modern concept “breeders” have become all too familiar with. Gays just haven’t gotten the memo yet.

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Mr. Freeze July 2, 2014 at 13:31

Initially, I’d say there was certainly a need to “shout from the hills”, and form their ghetto. Join forces, even, amongst all the various conflicting elements under the LGBTQETC umbrella.

The end goal, at least when I was a kid … WAS to make it all completely irrelevant. Or at least that’s what they told us.

Somewhere along the line … The Ghetto became a gigantic money maker. And a one stop shopping spree for people with a victim complex and no imagination.

As well as an easy recruiter for the New Marxism.

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keyster July 2, 2014 at 13:33

I’ve found that most MTF’s do it for sex, fun, and fashion.

The advent of Viagra has added a whole other dimension to the lives of many MTF’s. Why bother with the risky, expensive and complicated surgery, the dilation maintenance, etc. – when your dick still gets hard. Only the truly committed tranny goes all the way. It’s a deep psychological need to have the “dangly parts” removed.

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Mr. Freeze July 2, 2014 at 13:39

“It’s a deep psychological need to have the “dangly parts” removed.”

Not necessarily. Many trannies, as opposed to the Trans, have earned their living and their ‘switch’ on the street through prostitution. Black market hormones and foreign surgeries.

The Dick is often their greatest business asset. And they know it.

Getting rid of it renders them just another pussy on the street.

As I said … the old school trannies are far more realistic about things.

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Prof. Woland July 2, 2014 at 21:35

“The Left is essentially a collection of ideologies that have nothing whatsoever in common other than an oppressor/oppressed dichotomy…”

You won silver cup! The one thing they have in common is what they are against; white straight Christian men . This is why the left has increasingly ratcheted up demagoguery. It is the glue that holds their coalition together and if that goes, the left will disintegrate at light speed and with it all of their government benefits and privileges.

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Adam McPhee July 2, 2014 at 21:56

Gay men often use the acronym GLBT, putting their identity first. I do find LGBT more popular. I use it too, but that’s because it rolls off the tongue like Spanish, El GBT.

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Dire Badger July 3, 2014 at 00:49

LGBT- Lettuce, Guacamole, Bacon, and Tomato sandwich.

Lettuce demands 90% of the sandwich because she ‘always feels wilted by the historical oppression of leafy greens’ ignoring the fact that just bare lettuce makes a nasty sandwich.
Guacamole demands right to be called guacamole even if he’s just a bunch of Avocados mashed together with no other ingredients.
Bacon wants to alter the first amendment so people cannot say he is ‘just a piece of meat’
Tomato demands the right to have Obamacare to pay for vegetable-reassignment surgery.

Nastiest sandwich I have ever been forced to swallow.

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lurker July 3, 2014 at 06:01

“Does preferring sexual relations with their own sex really deserve protected/identifiable group status? If I would much rather suck cock than eat pussy or enjoy being anally penetrated, is it really a public matter that must be shouted from the hills? Sexual identity is about as personal as we can get. No one really cares. It’s not that interesting.”

If only it was that easy. Read a history book and study the factors that currently lead to the formation of the Lgbt community. But to give you a crash course, the factors that lead to this social group were the urbanization an industrialization, the vice squad, and the mental health industry. The first one gave homosexuals the power form their own social world. The last two gave them a reason to form a political and social identity. So basically the lgbt community was formed because of hostility. The current lgbt political force is most composed of people who have resentment, anger, and envy with a sense of entitlement.

“Hoping that the Left will disintegrate or go away is like hoping the wolves will get tired of chasing you before they catch you and eat you alive. What you need if a fire to keep them at bay, ( sites like this are the fire ), a stick to beat them off, ( a movement ), and a political weapon to destroy them with, ( certainly not the current Republican party ). You need to get them on the run, trap them in their den, and destroy them.”

You really think that after the left is gone that won’t be a group to take it’s place? You people keep thinking that if you guys win that you would be able to keep that power. Sure, the new “era” may belong to you guys, but that doesn’t mean it would last. Just as the left is becoming authoritarian and nasty so will you guys too. Then that would only lead to a new group of people that feel to overthrow you guys. As long as there is suffering and human nature this will never end.

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Adam McPhee July 3, 2014 at 06:39

I was perusing the comments and saw a lot of talk about HIV/AIDS. If anyone’s interested in that, I did an article after attending a talk, supposedly on gender equality, at Ryerson University that dealt with HIV in Africa:

http://eyeofwoden.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/gender-equality-the-most-important-struggle-on-the-planet/

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The Brass Cat July 3, 2014 at 13:36

@Adam McPhee

Thanks for posting your article. It supports my point of why Feminists express so much concern for HIV. They consider it a women’s issue when it happens in Africa where more women than men are infected. Feminism is a global movement now, and Africa and other third world areas are the new Feminist frontier.

The elephant in the room is the fact that “gender equity” has nothing to do with gender equity.

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Dire Badger July 4, 2014 at 18:32

@Lurker-

Nothing ever lasts. That doesn’t mean it won’t be worth it to slaughter the bread and circuses crowd for another 1600 years.
Liberty must be periodically paid for with the blood of patriots. The liberals will get smashed, and they WILL rise again, but who knows? Maybe next time we can round them up and ship them to another planet (or the corona of an empty star).

We need TIME to make real technological and societal progress, and the liberals are sabotaging it as hard as they can. Each time the cycle ends, we have progressed a little buit farther.

We need to get off of this rock, and the liberals are doing everything they can to blow all our resources on ridiculous non-issues. We need to be out of here before the next ice age or extinction level event ends our race, and all of it’s problems.

So our victory is IMPORTANT. We are not asking for ‘equal rights’, we are simply asking for all the ridiculous crap to be stripped away… and if it won’t be through peaceful means, it will have to be through non-peaceful means… but one way or another, men are going to have to reassert themselves as men and destroy the socialist/liberal feminist framework so we can get back to what we do best… saving the world.

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Lurker July 5, 2014 at 20:24

@dire badger

First off, you act like all men are in this together. You also act like your biggest enemies are liberal. Liberals are basically just a front. It’s a conglomeration composed on tons of different groups from different walks of life. Do you really think that you could fight a shadow such as that? Another thing, do you even think that you could get a different groups of men to put aside their bias and issues to fight against liberalism?

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Towgunner July 7, 2014 at 07:43

@ Lurker and Dire Badger:

I’m with Dire, nothing ever lasts; additionally, considering how far radical leftism has deviated from reality I believe this will not last for much longer. Forces are at work. We have things like feminism, homosexualism, and in summation, leftism because the host was strong, now the host is weak and certain things are occurring that are creating change, but, not the “change” liberals commonly think of. For instance, real moves are being made to unseat the US dollar as the global reserve currency. See link.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-02/brics-are-morphing-anti-dollar-alliance

With its demise look for the global center of gravity to shift East, not West, and communist or not, I don’t sense a lot of femo or homo centric vibes from the BRICs etc. Another way to look at it is that feminism/homosexualism require a large state, because its top-down (which also makes it inherently oppressive), which also means these things are expensive. A global currency provided the proper conditions for expensive ideologies like feminism and homosexualism to occur.

And now that era is coming to a close, and as it relates to things like homosexualism, which IS a sex based or pleasure based ideology I think we all need to ask ourselves, what are we really getting out of all this fuss? If you’re not a homosexual or the associated iterations then not only are you getting nothing you’re getting less and, yes, you are paying for this (taxes) and will be asked to pay more as austerity hits harder. I think this will only become clearer to people as the harsh economic and geopolitical realities become to big to ignore. And, because homosexualism is all we’ve heard about for decades and because it has required so many resources it won’t be too hard for homosexualism to be associated with the old dysfunctional system that led to the destruction of The West’s and the US’s global hegemony, its economic power (USD global currency) and, indeed, its formerly high standards of living.

Lastly, you can’t fool people all the time, a wise man once said and sang, look at the “actions”, emphasis “actions” or behavior, of homosexuals, the hypocrisy is even more disgusting then their sexual perversions…they are the oppressors and bullies today. “You can’t tell me how to live” was and is the cornerstone of their grievance and therefore power (so pathetic), nonetheless, now they’re the ones who are telling others to live or unable to co-exist…they’re the intolerant ones, they judge, stereotype and insult people. They hate.

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Trimegistus July 7, 2014 at 18:20

The Left’s main power base is control of the media. Destroy that and they’re nothing but a bunch of overweight neurotics with daddy issues.

Destroying the lefty lock on the media means targeting people in the media. Not the talky faces but the producers and editors. We have to dig up dirt on those people. Get leverage. Turn the ones who can be turned, smash the ones who can’t.

Until that happens, we’re bringing a rubber knife to the battle of Stalingrad.

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lurker July 7, 2014 at 23:15

@towgunner

“Lastly, you can’t fool people all the time, a wise man once said and sang, look at the “actions”, emphasis “actions” or behavior, of homosexuals, the hypocrisy is even more disgusting then their sexual perversions…they are the oppressors and bullies today. “You can’t tell me how to live” was and is the cornerstone of their grievance and therefore power (so pathetic), nonetheless, now they’re the ones who are telling others to live or unable to co-exist…they’re the intolerant ones, they judge, stereotype and insult people. They hate.”

All groups do the things you mentioned. Asian people judge black customers that walk into their store. Black people stereotype white people. Mexicans insult Asian people. The hate, the judging , the insulting, the stereotyping, and intolerance is human’s tribal nature in action. To be honest, this is why I doubt that this revolution will end in the way you guys want it too. There are too many groups with their own group identity. They all want the social dominance so to speak.

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Towgunner July 8, 2014 at 12:13

@ Lurker:

I know, my point is to point-out the hypocrisy of the left, in this instance homsexualism, because, both in principle and action they violate the very thing(s) they say their against. To hate hate, for example, leads only to more hate, so, its path to nowhere or to the same figurative point. Same for discrimination etc. Yes, all those groups do it, but, only the left says they’re the vanguard to end hate and all those other things, yet, in action they are the very thing(s) they say their against. That’s a critical point, because it unravels their “ideology” or more aptly put, dissolves it. Thus, on this basis the entirely of leftism is worthy of wholesale rejection.

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Lurker July 8, 2014 at 13:47

@ Towgunner

As posters mentioned above the only thing that is keeping the left together is the hatred and fear of white straight men. I feel that most leftist leaders are more pragmatic than you guys give them credit for. Why destroy the glue that gives you power when it’s more profitable to keep you alive?

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