Antifeminism Might Become Illegal in the Nordic Countries

by Featured Guest on March 29, 2013

By Henry Laasanen

The Nordic Council has received recommendations from the expert panel to forbid antifeminist speech in the Nordic countries (Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Iceland and Norway).

The “Expert panel” was full of radical feminists and profeminist men.

The report is written in the Nordic languages (except Finnish) and some parts in English.

In the report antifeminist speech and right-wing extremist hate speech towards immigrants are treated as a part of the same movement.

MRM is labeled as part of right-wing extremism.

The report has an English summary (page 35).

  1. Antifeminist Threats and Harassment must be made Illegal (We recommend that the Nordic governments ensure that threats and harassment on the basis of gender are made illegal. Hate speech online must be prosecuted similarly to hate speech in other public spheres.)
  2. Low threshold services for reporting threats and Harassment must be established (We recommend that the Nordic governments establish a low threshold service for reporting antifeminist and extremist threats and harassment. )
  3. Annual national surveys of anti-feminism must be implemented.
  4. Research on anti feminism must be prioritized.
  5. Increasing equality and anti-discrimination requires the change to Masculinist standards
  6. Measures to aid marginalized men and boys should be implemented.
  7. Anti-feminism should be part of the Equality officers’ activity area.
  8. The press must take care of their responsibilities against antifeminism (The media must ensure that it has the competence to meet extreme actors without legitimising them or their opinions. Editors of online comments’ fields have a special responsibility to ensure that their users are not made targets of threats and harassment, and that xenophobic and antifeminist sentiments are not fuelled or legitimised.)
  9. Cooperation on antifeminism between countries and groups must continue.
  10. Interdisciplinary Nordic anti-feminist conference should be conducted.

Point number 8 interesting: “Editors of online comments’ fields have a special responsibility to ensure that… xenophobic and antifeminist sentiments are not fuelled or legitimised.” The expert panel wants to treat MRM same as racist hate speech, and Editors of the media must obey.

I am described in the report
Finnish gender researcher (and feminist) Katariina Mäkinen describes me (Henry Laasanen) in the report this way (Page 34).

To illustrate the importance of what we do, I will talk briefly about the views of one of the most profiled Finnish antifeminists. He claims to be a gender researcher, runs five different blogs, and claims to be a spokesperson for men with a low status in society. His blogs are explicitly antifeminist and misogynist, and he is contributing to normalizing hatred towards feminism and women. In particular, he argues that women’s sexuality gives them power over men, and draws on well-known theories about sexual capital to back up his arguments. Serious gender research is taken out of context and ridiculed.

This blogger is regularly interviewed in the press, and there are several readers who believe that he is indeed a scholar and that his unscientific theories are valid.

I don’t have any connections to extreme right or to the social conservatism, but I am treated as a part of right wing extremism with Anders Breivik etc.


How the report will be received in Finland?

Finland is ruled by the state feminism. In the equality politics feminists have total hegemony and politicians have no guts oppose feminists, because opposing feminism could end their career and label them as misogynists.

It’s entirely possible, that expert panel’s recommendations will be taken granted in the Nordic countries.


Feminist strategy: connect MRM to the extreme right

In the Finland we have only the liberal MRM organization, called “Men’s Equality”. Organization has no right wing or conservative opinions. In spite of that, feminists and left wing multiculturality praising researchers desperately want to connect finish MRM to extreme right wing.

Feminist strategy here in Finland is to connect MRM to the right extremism and to the social conservatives, because they are the “official” bad boys.

It doesn’t matter, how many times finish MRA says, that we are more of an ultra liberal kind than the conservative kind.

I have read tens of times in the internet, that “I want to go back to 50′s” and  “I want my wife to stay home” in the traditional way. The truth is, personally I am for the MGTOW and for the PUA ideologies and I have no intentions of going back to the old gender roles.

Articles via Google translate

Want to make the anti-feminist harassment offense

Suggestion: Make it a criminal offense to criticize feminism

Censorship of feminism criticism

Anti Feminism and gender criticism?

Discussion in the Reddit.

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Hf March 29, 2013 at 09:44

“that his unscientific theories”

I presume that they are then saying that their theories are scientific??

Oh the irony.

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Zorro March 29, 2013 at 10:08

Much as I am supportive of the Danish cartoonists who drew the Mohammed cartoons (I am assuming Denmark is kinda Nordic), my position is simple: boycott all products originating in countries where feminism has gone TOTALLY OFF THE FUCKING MAP!

No more Volvos, no more ABBA, no more salmon from Norway…

Fuck ‘em.

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SixStringsForever March 29, 2013 at 10:42

This is hard to believe.
Feminists clearly can’t stand ‘free’ speech and will legislate to shut it down………can a country really call itself democratic with such laws in place???
If males with opposing views are termed ‘misogynists’ then so what,I fail to see the problem,females aren’t concerned about being labled feminists,in fact,they view it like a badge of honour.
Obviously,in a country like Finland the only way to change this nonsense is at a political level,surely,there must be politicians brave enough to speak out against such contemptible proposals?

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MRA March 29, 2013 at 10:48

And people still do not believe when they are told feminism is the communism, socialism and nazim mixed together.

I think is good this kind of move by the femgov, this means that they are afraid to protect their utopia that is falling apart, the gov can’t keep this up for a long period of time, look how the Euro zone is right now, the the feminists from US still want to press the same measure here in the states.

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GT66 March 29, 2013 at 10:51

The fight is in the equation of an opposing view with the hatred of women. This is a game that anti-male feminists have been playing from the get g0. This is where men give up the fight when fighting twice as hard is what is truly called for.

During first wave feminist, a men’s rights group was created. Here is a piece of an article written in 1927. This is taken from a website called The Unknown History of Misandry which I believe should be recommended reading for every man (of late, this has been my go to site for historical context of the resistance to feminism, and misandry):

” The mass meeting was held under the slogan of “equal rights for men.”

Sigurd Hoeberth, the president of the League, denied emphatically that the aggressive males were women haters. All the League wanted, he said, was that the preferences and privileges which the women now receive from society, from the State, and especially from the courts, should stop.”

Numerous speakers denounced the “degenerate literary cafe clique” for having placed woman on such a high pedestal “that she has come to consider it as her right not only to claim but also to abuse her privileges arid her freedom.”

“The feminist, hysterical and degenerate cafe scribblers have helped cunning woman to forge intolerable chains for men,” explained one of the speakers, Wollner.

“The man is roped before the family coach, and on the driving seat sits the ‘gracious lady,’ and if he doesn’t pull till he drops, she swings the whip of legal paragraphs over him.”

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Survivorman March 29, 2013 at 11:04

Although not worded in LAW – this situation is already in force in the US via the “PC police”. Both in the private and public sectors, men have lost their jobs for the “crime” of publicly stating well-founded scientific facts that do not fit in with current feminist dogma.

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sestamibi March 29, 2013 at 11:25

I’ve long argued that feminism and all other forms of leftist politics need to use force in order to get what they want, because FORCE WORKS!

Therefore, we should not be mouthing platitudes about freedom of speech and (in the US) the First Amendment, but rather taking measures to shut THEM up, as they say, by any means necessary.

Unfortunately, that will never be done by pussified western white men. However, it will happen in Scandinavia once sharia is imposed when Muslims attain majority status due to Scandinavians’ feminist embrace and related failure to breed. Expect this to happen around 2050-2080.

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Ethical March 29, 2013 at 11:38

What’s more interesting is whether this legislation will pass. How far can things go before men not only refuse to participate in the roles a stable society needs them to take on … but begin to actively resist their enslavement. So far there seems to be no hard limit on the amount of inequality men will take.

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Michael Klein March 29, 2013 at 11:39

Anyone, any doubts left that feminism is a totalitarian movement that is equal to all totalitarian movements in history?

It is quite a development for a movement that started with a claim to personal freedom to corrupt into a movement that demands the restriction of freedom for others.

What next, build concentration camps for non believers in feminism?

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Michael Klein March 29, 2013 at 11:41

By the way, the strategy to connect anti-feminism to the extreme right is prevalent in Germany as well, mainly used by taxpayer funded political institutions closely linked to SPD and Greens.

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GT66 March 29, 2013 at 11:43

I have been giving a lot of thought to the battle against feminist hegemony. In the realm of logic, males are undisputed winners. However, in the social sphere, we get our asses handed to us time and time again. We absolutely need to address this fact and find a solution.

Part of the solution lies in the fact that feminism is a cannibalizing movement. The ideology alienates more and more people because it is contrary to freedom of choice for BOTH men and women. It demands more and more control and authority while being hostile to individual pursuit of happiness and towards business and free market creating increasing class impoverishment and diminishing quality of life. You can see it here in the USA. Despite more and more welfare, people’s QoL keeps sinking and women’s (most notably) happiness is at all time lows. Marxism, it is an ideology that only ever seemed workable on paper. In practice it has failed everywhere it has been tried because it’s first foundation step is to decouple people’s ambition from the rewards of pursuing those ambitions. From step two onwards, everything is coercive and as a result, a stunted failing system is all that can be built. So, is part of the key just sitting back an letting feminism do the work of alienating people from itself in the social sphere?

Should we simply pull out of engaging in the public sphere altogether? Should resistance go back underground? Part of a suitable strategy might lay in the fact that men are net producers while, in my observation, women are net consumers. Men simply stepping back their amount of production exceeding their own needs is a MASSIVELY powerful force against feminism. We are seeing some of this behavior in single men and divorced men refocusing on their work/life balance rather than blindly producing “to get ahead.” Extortionate child support/alimonies are part of the sign that the machine is getting desperate for net producers. Illegal immigrants and “guest” worker programs are other signs. This is a more “under the radar” resistance and would be extremely difficult to counter. Feminism requires huge amounts of capital in order to work. If the government is broke, then feminism’s golden goose is cooked.

The last idea is that men need to start educating younger men and women to be better equipped to fight feminism. It is male tendency to allow children to choose their own paths and make their own choices of social position. Perhaps the time is here to start actually raising children to understand the toxic anti-freedom nature of feminism and encourage them to enter field to better counter it: law, politics and academia. Most people still only vaguely understand the disingenuous marketing spin of feminism being about “equality” and act on that misunderstanding. If they where better educated about feminism’s true roots and true intentions, future generations would be better prepared to defend democracy and freedom against the feminist/marxist onslaught.

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Norm March 29, 2013 at 12:07

Tell the Muslims not to criticize feminism if they dare. If Russia ever attacks Finland again, let the feminists and white knights try fight them off.

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Jacob Ian Stalk March 29, 2013 at 13:06

This will not pass into law in its current form. If it does, the laws will not last long. My advice to active anti-feminists living in Nordic countries is to continue doing what you’re doing underground under pseudonyms. Employ anti-surveillance techniques and keep telling the truth until they silence you. Speaking truth into the world is far more important than fame or even claims to authorship.

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Brian March 29, 2013 at 13:09

Some kooky council members actually call the MRM a part of “right-wing extremism.” That’s how badly ya’ll MRAs hurt their feelings with your merciless blogs, “patriarchal” internet videos, and “misogynist” comments. You didn’t even have to commit one act of actual violence to qualify as an “extremist.”

Well done, fellas. Keep up the good work about misandry today. Give it to people straight like a pear cider made from 100% pears [sic].

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Opus March 29, 2013 at 13:15

So the author argues that ‘women’s sexuality gives them power over men’. Colour me shocked! – but having looked at the photos of the Dyke-lesbians in the link, it is quite probable that these women have yet to experience this power.

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Jacob Ian Stalk March 29, 2013 at 13:16

“What next, build concentration camps for non believers in feminism?”

What do you mean “next”?

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Tom Smith March 29, 2013 at 13:29

I agree that eventually Europe (and the U.S.) will have to deal with the so-called “problem” of non-Christian (i.e. Islamic) people breeding their way into the majority. And then the ideas presented by feminism will be voted down. Not to mention, it’s unlikely that women will still be allowed the right to vote in a Muslim majority country.

In Scandinavia, I think the Muslims will be in the majority far before they are in the U.S.- and believe me “payback” for the women will be a bitch when you have Sharia law imposed for ALL women. In a sense, I agree with some of the ideas the Muslims have- keep them in the house, in the kitchen, AND barefoot and pregnant when they’re young. It stands to reason if women are pregnant and/or taking care of the young, they will not have the time to demand “reproductive rights” or to agitate to have political power.

The Muslims have figured this out- and once they become the majority, the rollback of feminism will come to pass. Too bad that the white men cannot do it- it’s a shame so many have become “hobbled” by their women.

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Anonymous March 29, 2013 at 13:42

Links to all swedish and norwegian articles about it:

In the avoiceformen forum there is a translation of the norwegian article. The people in the norwegian comment field was harshly against the proposal and the article gave avoiceformen, Erin Pizzey, Swedish MRAs a lot of attention for the first time in Norwegian press. It also pointed out som estuff about feminist extremism and many commenters where shocked at the extremes of feminism because they where not aware of it. In fact the report has been great for Norwegian MRAs and a PR disaster for feminists.

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AF March 29, 2013 at 13:45

A big problem here is that there are two very different – though not in fact incompatible – ideologies of life that get categorised as MRA/MRM.

One is the more politically liberal MGTOW movement. I have no problem with this lifestyle, it has always existed under one guise or another and has always been socially accommodated. In most societies, a MGHOW would be a monk or a priest, sacrificing family life for spiritual and scholarly pursuits, and these people were always widely respected and supported.

A modern interpretation of MGTOW may have no religious element to it, but it’s basically the same thing; avoiding the complexities of relationships with women in order to pursue other goals. Fine.

However, it is my contention that most MRAs are not MGTOWs, at least not for themselves – they’d like a fairly traditional family life, and to live in a culture that would support that and not make it such a dangerous investment.

The important point is that these two ideologies are not incompatible, yet a sort of “in-fighting” over them ends up confusing the MRM climate. All that the MRM needs to do is clarify that it is in favour of men’s rights to choose their own path; to go their own way – not marry etc – OR live a traditional family life – whichever they see fit.

Advocates of each path don’t need to try and convert each other – just agitate for a social climate that supports both options; as almost all societies in history have.

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Redbeard March 29, 2013 at 13:49

Zorro’s ideas regarding boycotting products that he perceives as being owned by Scandinavians are not very well thought out. By boycotting products such as Volvo, you will be hurting it’s Chinese owner not Swedish feminists. If you boycott farmed Salmon, you will be hurting Salmon farmers in Alaska mostly and not Norway. If you actually find out that a product that is actually being made by Scandinavians, you are really hurting the mostly male workers who are suffering under the yoke of feminist totalitarianism. Do you really want them to lose their jobs? Feminists usually work for NGO organizations and government anyway. The best way to fight them is to expose them and challenge them in the freedom of the internet the same way that the Spearhead does. The Scandinavians are probably the biggest users per capita of the internet so you will have a much greater impact influencing opinion there by using this tool than anywhere else.

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keyster March 29, 2013 at 14:20

They seem to be talking about anti-feminism on the internet, because it can’t be discussed in any other open forum, and certianly not the media or college campuses.

Here in the USA we have a Leftist “watch-dog” group called the Southern Poverty Law Center that has labeled Men’s Rights groups (mostly on the internet), as right-wing extremists. It will never be “illegal” here, but they try their best to silence and/or marginalize any dissent.

The freedom and anonymity of the internet (the new media) and our 1st Amendment is a big problem for feminism right now. The orthodoxy is slowly being deconstructed and destroyed, one blog post and YouTube video at a time.

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AF March 29, 2013 at 14:30

As for feminists lobbying to get “anti-feminist” positions made illegal, that necessarily means they are criminalising themselves.

Almost all contemporary feminists have absolutely no knowledge of their own movement’s history, and that the original feminists would have been fiercely opposed to virtually everything they have pushed for in the last 50 years.

Original feminism meant supporting the value of women’s specific contributions to the world *as women*. As such, it meant a deep opposition to women engaging to casual sex and having abortions (especially in order that they could be used as economic units for the corporate state). Original feminists wanted to ensure women could keep living traditional lives. They would be appalled by modern ‘feminists’. And most original feminists had no interest in women having the vote, either.

The problem is that a few unusually intelligent and cerebral women who didn’t want to get married (“WGTOW”) convinced men, in specific powerful men, to pay too much attention to them and to believe that they represented all, or even a majority, of women. Of course some women are very clever and logical, but the facts are that most aren’t (at least not until after menopause) which is why it has always been judged to be better for them to have fathers/husbands make certain decisions for them.

That’s not “sexist” any more than saying parents should make decisions for children is “ageist”. [Most] women’s capacity for critical thought is necessarily dulled by the strong emotions and hormones that make them good mothers. Of course it’s possible this vulnerability can get taken advantage of, which is what original feminism worked to prevent.

But modern feminists are in actuality the most anti-feminist, anti-women misogynists ever to have existed. You break their message down, and all it says is “women are not valuable unless and until they are behaving exactly like men”.

Me personally, I don’t feel angry with most young women for falling for it. Because the whole point of the patriarchy was based on this very preposition – women are vulnerable, women are gullible, women are easily led; that’s why we must protect and guide them.

Social engineers with certain goals in mind knew this, which was precisely why they hijacked feminism and didn’t create meninism. Women are easier to brainwash and lead astray. Simple as that.

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LIFE March 29, 2013 at 14:30

This Fem is gone well bejond believe , i am so shocked about the above !!!
What the fu.. is the Matter with the Woman have they lost it complitly ?
Its Politicall transmittet to , so ! They act like Brain less Chicken ! Unreal !

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joeb March 29, 2013 at 14:52

Feminist strategy here in Finland is to connect MRM to the right extremism and to the social conservatives, because they are the “official” bad boys.
No shit , But here in America we Just want one party to Jump aboard .
In resent years and in the more distant past we have seen organized crime take over many counties . More resent , The french riviera ,And Israel. In Cyprus , , Italy , Sicily, Cuba . Brazil and Canada . ( I just included Canada so they feel better about themselves )
This Crime syndicate is no different then the old one’s we Just can’t punch them .

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cecilhenry March 29, 2013 at 14:52

Some of us aren’t going back to old gender roles. We never left.

Instead we choose what we believe in and live that way.

That is freedom. This report is totalitarian repression of all opposition.

It is very evil, but shows that feminists, like ‘anti-racists’, cannot win against any opposition that is given free speech and freedom of conscience to think for themselves.

Hence these recommendations. Opposition to ‘hate’ has become a means to hate and destroy those you oppose.

Plus ca change.


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Bizzman662 March 29, 2013 at 15:06

It’s already illegal to be a straight white man in America.

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Jensen March 29, 2013 at 15:06


Some concrete steps: teach the young men: no marriage (not even attending weddings or giving gifts), no cohabitation, no joint property, no joint children, no materialism, no consumerism, no donations to Big Charity, no dating, no chivalry, no emotional investment in females. Work for yourself and be productive but keep and hide your stash. Travel the world and taste its delights, including non-Western women. Give the privilege of sex on your own terms to women who are not dangerous. Worship and care for your own body and spiritual needs. When you are in your late 40′s, have your own child as a single parent through a surrogate mother in the far reaches of the non-Western world. Any woman who runs away with your child is now engaged in federal kidnapping.

Let the women wither on the vine of their own stupidity.

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Jerrobaum March 29, 2013 at 15:10


Anti-communist speech, Anti-nazi speech, Anti-caliphate speech, Anti-monarchic speech …

Were these not also banned on pain of death for breach now ?

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Jean Valjean March 29, 2013 at 15:19

Two words: Streisand Effect.

This will backfire. I don’t know if the Nordic countries have free speech laws but in the West we tend to hold them dear.

Trying to make laws that publicly censor the MHRM will only bring more attention to us.

So, I hope they pass this law.

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Wilson March 29, 2013 at 16:15

I wouldn’t be so sure of that, Jean Valjean. Most people say they are in favor of freedom, but under the slightest test they reveal themselves to be passionate about the opposite. Any attention is not good attention when it’s in the form of “blood libel”.

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Michel Houellebecq March 29, 2013 at 16:20

Well, that’s totalitarism on it’s way to power. Democracy and freedom of speech are endangered. It’s now clear, what some feminist exponents really want: A new (world) order, implemented by the governement. Don’t worry: Big sister is watching you… worser, than big brother did. Room 101 is now open, and the clock struck thirteen. One plus one equals three.

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BC Dad March 29, 2013 at 16:26

Public perception and sympathy may be against this proposal, but that has never stopped the feminist bureaucracy from imposing such legislation regardless.
The politicians can simply claim a mandate from the people who elected them. The kind of stink that could stop such proposals requires mass action, which most men seem disinterested in.

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Ben March 29, 2013 at 16:50

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Kevin Fuchs March 29, 2013 at 18:16

What a weird situation: A group dominating the puplic discourse decides that the opponent group must be silenced, segregated and persecuted.

In some way this is the best thing that can happen. The radical feminists drop their mask. They can no longer pretend that they stand for human rights. Interestingly, they expose themselves as being the ones who proclaim totalitarian positions – not their opponents, not the MRM. And I’m confident that people will not be quiet about this.

But if this legislation passes, this will create a mighty instrument of censorship which will soon awaken covetous motives. Therefore, this affects the scandinavian society as a whole and it might be a chance to gather new supporters for the MRM.

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Alex March 29, 2013 at 18:33

Wonderful. When you can’t win an argument through logic, simply make that line of thought illegal in an attempt to silence it.That’s the mark of a moron or a cynic and these lunatics are both. To them I say, “Yeah, good luck with that,” because I see mass downloads of the TOR browser bundle as men go even deeper, to post anonymously, read freely and exchange info below the fembot radar. Better yet, the Nordic men are generally college educated or competent in useful trades – get thee to a better, man-friendly, location.

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MRA March 29, 2013 at 19:44

Social engineers with certain goals in mind knew this, which was precisely why they hijacked feminism and didn’t create meninism. Women are easier to brainwash and lead astray. Simple as that.

Exactly, the reason for men control over women in their lives was that those men loved them and wanted the best for her, so males took the responsibility to make good choices FOR HER that ensure a good future, the reason why men back in the late 19th century did not want theirs daughters to be feminists was that she was going to be manipulated by someone THAT DO NOT LOVE HER and do not care about her future, for example, the best for women is to marry young, men knew this and make sure she was already married with kids when she was in here early 20s, even if she did not wante to, in the long term she is going to thanks her father for that, look how many women +30 are regretting not taking the advantage of theirs youth and marry when she was better, almost every online news outlet has aging women complaining about the spinsterhood with cats.

Women are like easily to control, the gov, Hollywood, fashion, marketing in general know this, the reason to remove mens control and authority over family has its roots in the fact that is more easy to control women and subsequently children with the man out the the home.

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Alex March 29, 2013 at 20:34

GT66 is absolutely right with the following:
“Part of a suitable strategy might lay in the fact that men are net producers while, in my observation, women are net consumers. Men simply stepping back their amount of production exceeding their own needs is a MASSIVELY powerful force against feminism. We are seeing some of this behavior in single men and divorced men refocusing on their work/life balance rather than blindly producing “to get ahead.” Extortionate child support/alimonies are part of the sign that the machine is getting desperate for net producers. Illegal immigrants and “guest” worker programs are other signs. This is a more “under the radar” resistance and would be extremely difficult to counter. Feminism requires huge amounts of capital in order to work. If the government is broke, then feminism’s golden goose is cooked.”

However, the days of feminist hogs feasting from the public coffers is just about over. Cyprus was the latest taste of things to come in all Western countries, aka legalized theft, which shows that the house of cards is imploding. In desperate times, how many people will tolerate being taxed for stupid crap like the $800,000 study on the sexual lives of snails( actual study ) and billions to pay off rabid feminists every year? In hard times when the Big Nanny welfare net is gone I’ll bet the sweet dearies will cry out to every man they see that NAWALT, we need to be taken care of, it’s every man’s duty to take care of a woman.

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Anonymous March 29, 2013 at 22:03

Those damn men… smash the patriarchal “racist” conspiracy– for the children, comrade!! (It’s not totalitarianism when feminists do it, apparently.)

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joeb March 29, 2013 at 23:26

My opinions lately have been changing ,I had abandoned my old idea’s . I think I’m going to take on the arduous task off completing a project I abandoned years ago .
My thoughts have always been the feminism is a cult , Men first and foremost need to take a few actions in there life’s to assure The sister hood does not proselytize loved one’s .
Discredit the figure of authority: the cult leader
Present contradictions (ideology versus reality): “How can he preach love when he exploits people?” is an example.
The breaking point: When a subject begins to listen to the deprogrammer; when reality begins to take precedence over ideology.
Self-expression: When the subject begins to open up and voice gripes against the cult.
Identification and transference: when the subject begins to identify with the deprogrammers, starts to think of him- or herself as an opponent of the cult rather than a member of it.
These are things every man needs to do in his own life ,and I have been remiss on my duty’s lately .
Sometimes we forget about Loved ones and how important they are to us and the Mrm cause takes time .
Remember a well balanced life along with working in real life situations can be rewarding .
This summer I’m getting down in the trenches again along with a few friends . I’m probably going to get spat on a few dozen times and Maybe have to take a few blows to the face but, Its worth it .
Actions are whats needed more then anything .
I’m looking for a center in my area that can give us meeting space , Most civic centers will not give an MRA group the space for free so. Ill have to find creative ways to steel money from Feminists to pay for it but that’s Just a matter of overcharging them for services or something simple .
Hope you all have plans for the summer , seasonal depression is almost over Happy Easter

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UK Fred March 30, 2013 at 03:14

Anders Breivik appeared to be more National Socialist than right wing to me, but then mainstream media in Europe does tend to label anyone it sees as having ‘unacceptable’ views as right wing.

While I see this as being yet another nail in the coffin of traditional marriage and family structure, I am also concerned that the ‘Equalities’ legislation will turn out like the USA where a Christian photographer and a Christian baker have been sued for refusing to take photographs or make a wedding cake for a same-sex ‘marriage’.

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Michel Houellebecq March 30, 2013 at 04:39

Is this Democrazy..?!

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woggy March 30, 2013 at 05:44

I doubt this will change many minds regarding feminism and the latent misandry that goes with it.
I’ll bet the harpies and their mangina waterboys know that too, but “changing minds” isn’t the goal. Preventing further gains against feminist evil, through enforced social isolation, IS the goal.

I seem to recall the anti – Domestic Violence advocates identifying one who controls by socially isolating another as an “abuser”.

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John March 30, 2013 at 08:26

That’s why I never , never shop at Ikea stores here in Canada !!!
Nordic countries ….they always have been Feminists . I really don’t know what’s wrong with those tall blond guys ,why they are so pussywhiped ? Those guys really don’t mind going to jail over some false rape charge’s ?? I’m starting to think that blond ,blue eyed men are genetically screw up !!

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Elena March 30, 2013 at 08:46

Have any of you ever been on vacation in Greece or Italy or Spain ? Have you noticed the club seen there ? A lot of Scandinavian girls looking for a strong Macho type Alpha males ! Some times I talk to them . How about that a ? Ha.. of course Femininatzis want it bolt ways . And now they can lie about being raped while on vacation and get insurance money . Lying hypocrites , that’s what Scandinavian Feminists are !

Florence , Italy

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Opus March 30, 2013 at 09:27

I much envy you Americans with your first Amendment. You are confident that you can say pretty much what you want, and without fear. Such is not the case in Britain, where I, and I cannot be alone, have to check what I say and to whom I may say it. Anti-Feminism is not yet illegal, because we are obsessed with Negro-worship, and placating Militant-Homosexuality, but it may come.

All is not lost however: I was walking up the High Street when I came across a woman – looking as if she had come out of a Hercule Poirot story and pushing a 1930s perambulator. I peered under the hood and informed the lady that her baby had been stolen as what appeared to be the baby was a doll, and that this bore far too close a resemblance to John Buchan’s 39 Steps and wondered if the gun was underneath the bedding. She merely rattled a tin at me as she said she was collecting for a Children’s charity – a likely story, but it was good, at least for a few minutes, to go back to a time when Nannys were Nannys and slut-walking was unknown.

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AF March 30, 2013 at 09:58


The problem with your approach is it’s completely incompatible with life and young men as they actually are, rather than how you’d like them to be.

Youth is arrogant and immortal and believes it knows everything. Most young people aren’t going to listen to warnings from jaded “old men”. It is only ever AFTER being burned young men might possibly start to listen to your kind of advice. Personally though, I don’t think it’s good advice.

First of all, having a kid on your own; I reserve my special and particular contempt for elective single mothers – because children need and deserve both parents. Do I think single dads would make a better job of things than single moms? Certainly. Do I think they could ever be as good as two married parents? Not a chance. I will never support any movement where people ELECTIVELY become single parents. It is the height of selfishness. If the MRM is for men’s rights, it has to protect their first and foremost right – to be brought up by both parents. Your son wont thank you for intentionally depriving him of a mother.

Next, “sampling the delights” of non-Western women. Fine – if you marry them. I can’t understand how MRAs don’t see that separating sex from marriage and children is the primary driving force of feminism. Sex is not a recreational hobby for our own personal amusement; it is a procreative tool whose real purpose we are able to frustrate somewhat via artificial contraceptives.

No contraceptives = no feminism. It was only the advent of the pill and abortion that allowed feminism to flourish as it has. No anti-feminist should ever support it. [I am in favour of married couples using contraceptives to control the size of their families, but they should only be available strictly on prescription.]

Personally, however, I am not a huge fan of going abroad to marry as I want to preserve my white Western culture. Not because I am a racist, but because I am the opposite – I am in favour of racial diversity and wish to maintain it, not make everyone into one race by intermarrying and cross-breeding.

People the world over have a strong, often overriding desire to make a long-term bond with someone from their own race and culture. I’m not going to tell them this drive is wrong or they’d be better off ignoring it, as I do not believe this to be the case What people want is a secure family life in their own culture; I believe in promoting their right to have this and that this is the most important battle to fight.

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Vinayak March 30, 2013 at 11:54

I would think that the sons of viking warriors, the super atheletic and strong alpha Norwegians would have revolted by now …. the very fact that they haven’t revolted, shows that large groups men can be kept subjugated for longer than we think

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zimmy March 30, 2013 at 11:55

Just 2 days ago I was having a conversation with a young woman who said that women take criticism better than men. She seemed upset when I burst out with a belly laugh. I then gave her several examples of how ‘sensitive’ feminists are to criticism. I included tv ads which portray men in ways that women would never accept. I noted how men have to tip toe in office work places because they have to be careful what they say.

It constantly amazes me how women miss the big picture about this. The young woman dismissed my examples as “unimportant”.

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ContrarianExpatriate March 30, 2013 at 13:35

If this is not a clue to Nordic men to disengage from those countries, there can be no clue.

Nordic men who continue to feed the beast with tax revenue and consumption spending deserve the misery that awaits them.

Let’s watch the Nordic countries socially implode, and be taken over by Islamic immigrants who will sooner overthrow those nations rather than be ruled by femitocracies.

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Anonymous March 30, 2013 at 16:10

“women take criticism better than men.”

It’s true that men have a lot more to lose by being criticized these days than women.

It’s also true that there’s very little tolerance for criticism of women, and women are incredibly persistent in trying to repress such criticism.

So yeah, women “take” it better in that they usually don’t lose anything. It’s easy to be “secure” when you’re not hanging by a thread. This “security” however, is fragile and requires a system designed to maintain it.

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Gender-Universum March 30, 2013 at 16:44

The critical question is: What is “antifeminist”?

It is quite revealing that the council doesn’t speak about “against women” or something similar.

As born in the GDR these things sound quite funny for me. I think of concepts like “counterrevolutionary”. :)

Here in Germany we have the same situation. Everything antifemist is right, extremely right or unbelievably right.

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Tam the Bam March 30, 2013 at 18:22

GT66 : “Part of a suitable strategy might lay in the fact that men are net producers while, in my observation, women are net consumers. Men simply stepping back their amount of production exceeding their own needs is a MASSIVELY powerful force against feminism.”

Agree with you & Alex.
Ain’t nuthin’ like being shit-poor in a co-o-old country to focus the mind.

Perhaps the (non-Norwegian) Scandy fembots fantasise that they’ll be moving en-masse to the Riviera or something, to rule over the lumpen euro-proles as “indispensible” (German-speaking, natch!) administrators, white-collar techies, office-ladies and schoolmarms?
Can’t see many of ‘em splitting their own logs, lassooing their own caribou, and netting their own herring, when (for instance) Mad Vlad decides to turn the central heating tap off.

(Same goes for the recent deluge of (mainly muslim) 3rd-world criminals, beggars and failures that’s been encouraged to pitch camp inside northern europe’s welfare states recently. Not to their taste, I imagine, The Hard Life of a hundred, even seventy, sixty years ago. Which is where we (i.e. Yoorpeenz) are headed, at terminal velocity now, as Alex notes. I wonder where they’ll mooch off to next, once the river of Free Stuff taps out? Hell, like Yeltsin’s Russia, there won’t even be any money, to pay the Polis and other Witenite serfs to whip the native men out to the labor-camps).

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Tam the Bam March 30, 2013 at 18:54

Contrarian : “Let’s watch the Nordic countries socially implode, and be taken over by Islamic immigrants who will sooner overthrow those nations rather than be ruled by femitocracies.” Not wishing to appear disagreeable, but .. ain’t .. gonna .. happen.
Disenfranchised, and hence uncontrollable young northern european males are quite simply in a class of their own when it comes to Dishing It Out.
Always have been. Hardly surprising, it’s what they’ve been actively selected and bred for, over many thousands of years. Physical fortitude, unreasoning aggression, and quite psychotic levels of drunkennness and violence.
Not as dutiful hoe-wielding peons. Not placid and civilised villagers, nor “balance”-obsessed hunter-foragers.
As self-sustaining spear-carriers, axemen and swordsmen, who were a bit handy with an oar, a knife or a bow on the side, and absolutely no “moral compass” as to who they chopped up, and didn’t give much of a thought to their own lives, come to that.
They had literally no other value to their military overlords, in the interminable millennia of internecine carnage that constitutes european prehistory and history.
To that end they were given a parcel of land to scrape by on without too much interference, a lot of “democracy” and self-government, and encouraged to breed yet more potential conscripts for the shield-wall, and the rowers’ bench.
Look at the kind of Morlocks that unemployable former Eastern Bloc youth, or the notorious British “underclass” are developing into. God help civilization, never mind the Sharia-fanciers, if they ever sober up simultaneously.

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Omnipitron March 30, 2013 at 21:35

Not really a surprise to be honest. If one can’t discredit the message due to it’s validity, then they attack the messenger. If this no longer works (and as we can see feminism is getting desperate just as TFH said they would) then have no other alternative. They have to silence the message as they see the ranks beginning to grumble.

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Brigadon March 30, 2013 at 23:51

WoW, Beer, and YouPorn are the only things standing between peace and a bloody Euro-American revolution.

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WomBats March 31, 2013 at 01:56

After 5 decades of an unchallenged thru monopoly stranglehold of the media, finally there is some recognition from some corners of the world that maybe, just maybe that one can not really do a fair gender discourse by focussing only on what affects one gender.

This amazingly simple and logical premise is growing at a rate that is alarming to feminists for very obvious reasons. It breaks their stranglehold and one sided and myopic views on gender discourse.

Check your privilege you feminist witches. Like the privilege of holding ALL the cards for 50 years. If that isn’t matriarchy I don’t know what is…

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Anonymous March 31, 2013 at 04:05

“We recommend that the Nordic governments ensure that threats and harassment on the basis of gender are made illegal.”

But how are feminists ever going to argue anything when they can’t say “you’re just a privileged white man”?

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Kuis March 31, 2013 at 04:34

ELENA: That’s true, but Italian women are more likely to look for providers. They play the ‘alpha fucks, beta bucks’ game like Greek and Spanish women.

I don’t like Northern European women much. They are cold and ruthless like Anglo-women; no wonder extreme feminism is big there.

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Starless and Bible Black March 31, 2013 at 21:50

I don’t understand why Scandinavian men don’t stand up for themselves and say enough is enough? Its ironic because feminist groups wouldn’t have any power if not for the men who support them.

Things aren’t much better here in America, anyone who dares disagree with feminism is labeled a misogynist. Many men, especially liberals are also afraid to challenge them (e.g. Obama). I can’t think of any group who benefits more from political correctness than feminists. They have been very successful at playing the victim card which has resulted in a generation of self-loathing men who are consumed with guilt because of their gender.

Believe it or not I’m looking forward to 2016 when self proclaimed feminist Hillary Clinton becomes president. It should be interesting to see the reaction of American men if Hillary implements a feminist agenda.

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Brigadon April 1, 2013 at 02:18


The reaction will likely be the same as it always has been.
A few smart men will point out that it’s killing the country. a Lot of stupid men will proclaim that Hillary is the second coming, and the vast majority will keep jacking off to xnxx, playing WoW, and postulating on which Kardassian Sister has the best tits.

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Factsseeker April 1, 2013 at 03:50

What the Nordic society does not seem to grast is this is exactly the way the Nazis went about dehumanising the jews. Nazi mentality is in every country. They do not care for germans or women or for the ayran race. They just want a victim to hate. The best way of marginalising groups in society is to demonise them as evil and then to centure their right to freedom of speech. These Nordic nazis have now discovered that ordinary men can be hated and marginalised. They are now very excited. Of course, all they want is to protect women. They are really heroes. Just like the Nazis were heroes to the German people.

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Tam the Bam April 1, 2013 at 11:45

Kuis: “I don’t like Northern European women much. They are cold and ruthless like Anglo-women;”
if you think that’s bad, then just thank whatever god you worship that you’ve never got on the wrong side of an undomesticated (by religion, socialism, feminism or whatever) Northern European man. Brrrrr …!

Starless: I think it’s because they’ve stopped giving much of a fuck about “their” women. Too many broken toys in those attics, and there’s no cure.
“Fine, go to hell, your own sweet way. We’re marrying Thais, Russians, etc.” Or just shacking up and letting the state pick up the tab, when it all goes inevitably tits-up.
Google “Thaifjord” (in Norway). Of course, the fems don’t like it, and have a mixture of trying to recruit the foreign wives to join them, and accusations of slavery against the men.

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Brigadon April 1, 2013 at 14:51

Ummmmm… you might want to reread some of the history of germany and the comintern pact during world war II, the holocaust was a lot more complicated than just ‘nazis hating jews’. Try some of the history books that were NOT written from a strictly American, Jewish, or British point of view. Much Fact has been deemphasized in order to focus much more attention on the jewish holocaust. (and no, I am not trying to deny or downplay the holocaust itself, it was a horror, but it needs to be put in perspective.)

First of all, there was a LOT of racism at the time. In fact, it was the rule, rather than the exception. The Nazi pogrom started with gypsies and russians, jews didn’t come along until they needed a new enemy and jewish banking practice had pissed a lot of germans off and indebted their company. Thus the nazis solved three problems by one solution… cancelling government and private debts, adding money (in the form of jewish gold) to their struggling wartime machine, and providing a convenient and accessible enemy to deflect attention from the government. Monstrous, cold, calculating, and eminently logical if it had not mobilized the Yiddish across the pond.

Germany was struggling with their new socialism in the wake of the Kaiser’s downfall, and the soviets under Stalin had adventured and annexed a huge amount of northeastern europe and asia, and were turning greedy eyes on the rest of eastern europe, since communism wasn’t self-supporting. In addition, Italy was starting to make grabby motions towards annexing eastern europe as well.

So, Germany overproduced hugely to meet the ‘commie’ threat, but couldn’t do it alone, so they and a bunch of other countries created the anti-comintern pact. Italy wound up joining the pact for economic considerations, thus relieving a lot of countries. You know, throw the wolf a bone so it won’t eat you. It was really a War between the commies and the semi-democratic socialist before Britain got dragged in as a soviet ally, because they were worried that Germany would roll over them. The brits felt they were fairly safe from Soviet adventurism because they were on the other side of germany and the anti-comintern (it was more complicated than that) japan joined the anti-comintern because they were worried about chinese soviet-style communism, and also the fact that the soviets had nearly on-par ocean capacity and were making noises like they were going to turn Japan into their private playground.

The thing is, long before the concentration camps, the jewish were feeling the bite of banks getting nationalized by germany, and knew that they had to act quick before all their money was gone. So they enlisted the US government.

The thing was, the US government then wasn’t even close to the juggernaut it is today. Americans, except for a few volunteers, were like “Look, both sides are freaky.” In fact, before Jewish bankers started pushing money around, the US was damned close to joining Germany to kick the crap out of the commies and force Italy out of the axis. The atrocities Mussolini and Stalin were putting their OWN people through made the later holocaust seem like a minor hiccup.

So… they were having a tough time getting the Americans to fight. The Japanese were supplying minor assistance at keeping down Stalin’s and the Brit’s navy, and then invaded china. FDR was getting enormous pressure from corporate owners and businessmen tied to the banking consortium, so he started shipping stuff to the brits and the chinese, but the american people were NOT ready to go to war to protect ‘allies’ that they frankly considered assholes.

So, he had to mobilize them. careful ‘diplomatic’ missions sent into Japan did everything but call the Emperor’s mother a whore. surgical strikes at important civilian installations, and basically pissing all over japan finally forced them to react or ‘lose face’, so they carefully found an ENTIRELY military target that was within range of their strike capability, made sure they chose a day when there would be almost no sailors on board the ships and the loss of life would be absolutely minimal, and sent some bombers to blow the shit out of some little base in Hawaii so that the damned Americans would realize they were serious and leave them alone.

Of course, the media immediately screamed “SNEAK ATTACK ON CHRISTMAS DAY!” turning exactly the perfect screws of patriotism, hatred of dishonor, and christian fervor to launch American citizens into the war, as well as it’s titanic industrial base. We stupid sheep put on our best wolf skins and raged off to make SOMEONE pay. Which, in typical politician fashion, meant we headed east into Europe instead of west where the attack came from. (see the resemblance to libya and Iraq? God are we stupid) Building our industrial capacity the entire time. We HAD the men to work war industry, but politicians decided it was better to replace men with women than do without coke, TV’s, and pool tables. Oh, and we stuffed all the sloe-eyed americans into EXACTLY the same kind of concentration camps that the Germans were using. Well, we didn’t Gas anyone, We just starved them and let them die of easily-treated diseases instead. Since that is, you know, much more humane than killing them quickly.

So, eventually the germans started using Jews as fuel, and we proudly stomped them (and only incredible incompetence on the part of german field commanders allowed us to win), blew up a couple of japanese towns, broke a bunch of japanese swords and watched the guys turn themselves into human swiss cheese, toppled the emperor, and basically kicked ass all around. We let the commies invade the rest of eastern europe, proudly helped rebuild the communist dictatorships to their former strength, slapped the Italians on the wrist, and turned germany into two countries, split down the middle between russian control and british control. Oh, and then we informed all the germans what the Italians had pushed the nazi’s into doing behind their backs, which made the german people not only slaves, but also made them sick. The jews were dehumanized to make a convenient

Yes, the holocaust happened. But the Average German citizen, and even the average German Politician, knew less about the camps than we Americans know about Guantanimo Bay. (Where we don’t gas people in mass lots, we simply torture and break them individually instead. You know, Humanely.)

Is it any wonder many MRM’s would sprain his thumb on the button if someone had a way to blow up every career politician, lawyer, and banker in the world at once?

Btw- sorry for this getting so long, I was on a roll.

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Anonymous Reader April 1, 2013 at 15:14

What is “antifeminist”? Pretty much anythign a feminist says it is. THis is not new. Read about the 1930′s USSR – where “Trotskyist” could be anything at all, from advocating revolution in Poland to opposing a revolutino in Poland, but it was punishable by death no matter what.

Authoritarian dictators have to create a not very well defined category of bad thinking . George Orwell, in his increasingly important novel 1984, called it “crimethink”. The act of thinking something, anything, that was not in accordance with the current approved thoughts. Maoist and post-Maoist Communist China provide many examples, as words & thoughts that were anti-Mao during the Cultural Revolution turned out to be jsut fine, a few years later – after the Gang of Four was convicted in a People’s Court, of course.

The proposal is proof of the dictatorial intentions of Feminism. That is the important part.

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nugganu April 2, 2013 at 05:50

I wonder what they think of black MRA’s? That will be a real conundrum. Either way, I am looking forward to sitting back and watching the coming conflict between Feminazi Spinsters v. Islamic Extremists.

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waiting for the big one April 2, 2013 at 11:56

This may sound extreme now but Anders may well be seen as a national hero years from now, that Island after all was a training camp for communist indoctrine, the next generation of left evil.

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Tam the Bam April 2, 2013 at 13:06

nugganu : ” conflict between Feminazi Spinsters v. Islamic Extremists”
Not so sure about that. They both exist for the sole intention of destroying their declared enemy. Which happens to be the same. Guess who?
“My enemy’s enemy is my friend” and all that.
And they share identical thought processes. Probably get along famously, even more so than the Femilozzls currently do with the SoCons.

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MsAmericanPatriot May 17, 2013 at 05:25

What has happened to the Viking spirit?!?! This is disgusting. These fag hag feminists need a good REAL BALLS ATTACHED Viking to show them the error of their ways. Yes I am a female and I hate this that men have become so emasculated in a land that was once idolized for their manliness.

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Sweedie June 28, 2013 at 11:55

It won’t become illegal. If it does, I’m getting the fuck out of here. My Viking blood tells me to. They are so fucking butthurt that they can’t handle other peoples’ opinions. I don’t like that some out there think women belong in the kitchen, but I’ll protect their right to spout that bullshit until I die.

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lex paradox August 19, 2013 at 22:54

You really get a picture of what’s
going on here, and it’s VERY dangerous to the state. There is a real threat of the protectors waking up to the fact that they are nothing but batteries for a weak but tyrranical force. As soon as these batteries (slaves) refuse to comply with orders from them, prove they are as obslete as us, they and the state that empowers them, is done. Long live MGTOW!!!

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Bullshit Fighter August 20, 2013 at 02:17

This is outrageous but a fine example of the insanity of feminism. It doesn’t want quality, it wants absolute power and female superiority like a bloodthirsty dictator. Feminism can be compared to religion in the sense of extremism, hypocrisy, manipulation, lies, parasitism, delusions, anti-intellectual behavior, denial of facts and reason, lack of emotional control, hatred, suppression of critique and much more. Down with feminism!

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Anonymous November 13, 2013 at 08:48

Well, why do you think so? What you speak of are just ‘recommendations’; and since the Nordic Council has no ‘formal power’ of its own, its decision first must be implemented in the member countries. So there’s still room for debate; and the outcome may depend on how many vote against! Interesting.

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Dadzrites January 14, 2014 at 07:46

I guess the Vikings turned into the Weaklings.
Feminist totalitarianism is just another form of Marxism/totalitarian communism.

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fhgfh January 30, 2014 at 13:23

Fuck feminism

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