Charles Martel linked an article about Jodi Arias, a woman who felt “used” by her lover, and subsequently terminated him with extreme prejudice, shooting him in the face while he was taking a shower, cutting his throat, and then stabbing him nearly 30 times.
The lover, Travis Alexander, was engaged in a purely physical relationship with Ms. Arias that she says made her feel “like a prostitute.”
Arias, 32, recalled one occasion at a banquet in Oklahoma City, where she hid in a bathroom to cry after she saw Alexander flirting with a woman who was wearing a revealing dress.
“I didn’t think the behavior was appropriate … It hurt my feelings … I was appalled that he was doing it in front of me.”
Arias said her lover never introduced her as his girlfriend, but gave her a Valentine’s Day present of a T-shirt reading “Travis Alexander’s” and pink shorts with “Travis” printed on them – which were admitted as evidence in court.
On the second day of testimony on Tuesday, Arias had detailed meeting Alexander at an insurance convention in Las Vegas in the fall of 2006, at a time when she was in another relationship.
Describing their first kiss in response to questions from defense attorney Kirk Nurmi, she said: “He got right in my face, maybe four inches, five,” adding, “He licked his lips and said ‘I wish you didn’t have a boyfriend.’”
Alexander had been dead for five days when he was found with a slit throat, a bullet wound in his head and 27 stab wounds, the Arizona Republic newspaper reported. His death was connected to Arias after sexually explicit photos were found on the memory card of his camera.
This case confirms Heartiste’s observation that love and hate are not opposite emotions:
… I will say this, it’s better to have a pissed off ex than an indifferent ex. Indifference, not hate, is the opposite of love. An angry ex can be gamed into a hatefuck, but an indifferent ex is already hopping on fresh cock. You are yesterday’s news.
So true, but one would hope she isn’t as pissed off as Jodi Arias…
The murder is almost five years old, but the case is news because Arias faces the death penalty. She is admitting to killing Mr. Alexander, but says that his “emotional abuse” is a mitigating factor.
Perhaps, but who would take mercy on a man who murdered a woman for marrying and then leaving him to gain some material advantage?
It will be interesting to see what the jury decides in this case. My suspicion is that she’ll be spared the death penalty if there are younger women on the jury, and maybe even if there are not.
For whatever reason, people think it’s nothing serious when a woman takes advantage of a man, but they feel sorry for women who are used in a similar manner.
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- STDs
- False rape accusations
- Savage ambush-violence from women you’ve slept with and then dumped
- Violence, professional sabotage, and other retribution from petty, jealous, womanly men.
You will usually not hear the mack-daddy “pick-up artist” types discuss any of ^ these issues. Because their skills and abilities are often completely powerless against them.
That’s not to say that writers like Roissy, etc, don’t have valuable things to say. Some of their writing is useful and important, and they can teach some important things that are helpful in several different areas of life. It’s wrong to dismiss them as jokes. But if you’re hoping to live your entire life according to the teaching of pick-up artists, you’re going nowhere. The best you can do is “guy who manages to bang a lot of chicks” – which, sure, it’s better than a lot of outcomes, but it’s not everything.
Worst you can do is end with bits of your trachea sticking out of your hacked-open throat. Like this guy.
I hope she gets the death penalty too, but I’m not holding my breath.
I wonder why it took over four years after the murder for Jodi Arias to finally be going to trial. If the genders were reversed the verdict would have come in at least three years ago.
To repeat the words of the unknown black sage who coined the phrase, “Bitches be crazy.” Never was it more true than the modern day, when they’re struggling with bi-polar disease and crippling depression, and are in turn pumped full of anti-depressants which makes them suicidal. If they don’t care about their own lives, they won’t care about the life of teh man who acts as a lightning rod for all their frustrations and inadequacies in life. Never a better time to fade off their radar/MGTOW. This will be even more so as the economy implodes and the gov does everything it can to unload economic liabilities onto the backs of men.
LTR does not mix well with high alpha behavior. Better to dump her early than drag it out to a bad ending. Jodi tried to play “tame the alpha”, failed and killed him.
For a successful LTR, you have to find the right alpha/beta balance. Keep up both the attraction and the comfort levels. When she gets too jealous or nervous, act a little more beta. When she gets bored, thinks she owns you, starts flirting with other guys, etc … time to be more selfish.
Well, according to Ormond Quay Paternity Services (OQPS), up to 35% of all paternity tests carried out by the company over the last 18 months have returned a negative result. Luckily, we do not see 1 in 3 new mothers shot, stabbed, and murdered by the (putative) father.
Jodi Arias will get a slap on the wrist, then walk out of prison for a nice chat with Oprah. Just like Mary Winkler did after she murdered her husband. And guess what? Mary Winkler has three young daughters. There is a good bet all three of the little darlings have learned to handle a shotgun, and a jury, with equal ease.
The only silver lining is the fact that there are thousands of young men that have decided to break from the pack as a direct and proximate result of the Jodi Arias fiasco.
It rather supports my view that women cannot cope with casual sex: they can cope with sex within Marriage (where an advantage beyond sex is obtained) or in Prostitution (likewise) but not otherwise: these are the inevitable consequences of The Sexual Revolution, which turned almost all unmarried women into sluts, and without any male encouragement. Consider my pet bete-noir Elevator Diva, Skepchick Rebecca Watson: there you have a strong articulate in-your-face independent woman, freshly divorced, and aging (thirty one at the time) who goes to pieces when a guy (who she has certainly been encouraging and who must surely be in her league as they are attendees at an Atheist Conference and she is at best a 5) suggests that they go back to his room for coffee (the well known date rape drug) and jokes. To give her a let-out he even suggested (to please her vanity) that what he wanted to do, because she was so mentally interesting, was to discuss matters further. For the life of me I cannot think how less direct he could have been. Of course I suspect that what really bugged her was her fear that she is not attractive and that Elevator Dude really was only interested in talking to her. Yet she goes Internet-Postal, then takes her anger out on “Dick” Dawkins – whose books she will now no lnger promote – and with her other Skepchicks, excluding men for Heresy against the newly invented Dogma – otherwise indistinguishable from Political Correctness – and anyone else who sees her as less than a seriously abused humiliated and offended woman, thus turning Atheism into yet another Religion. Christians are surely falling about laughing. God certainly works in mysterious ways.
I once had to defend a woman who was prosecuted for destroying her boyfriend’s personal property when she found he had been cheating on her. Women like to dish it out but they sure cannot take it. Any form of rejection even when no sex has yet taken place offends them mortally (as perhaps with Elevator-Diva). The rash of False Rape and other False allegations is part of the same trend. Domestic Violence does (as every guy knows) tend to be a female speciality.
The prosecution evidence includes photos of Mr. Alexander taken by Ms. Arias immediately prior to the brutal attack and one photo of Ms. Arias dragging her victim’s body taken apparently when she dropped the camera.
Defensive wounds on his hands show Mr. Alexander attempted to fight off his killer as she stabbed him repeatedly. The gunshot wound to his face was apparently inflicted after the brutal knife attack was completed.
Mr. Alexander is unable to testify as to the veracity of the defendant’s claims about his behavior. We do know he blogged about his concern that he was dating ‘an axe murderer’ weeks before his death. Ms. Arias had apparently been harassing him and had slashed his tires.
The opposite of love being indifference rather than hate isn’t too new of a concept. Elie Wiesel, The Lumineers (to only name a couple) have both written exactly that. I myself came across it in a RA Salvatore book as a youth. But it wasn’t until I got older that I really got it.
There is absolutely nothing that can get under the skin of a mean and spiteful woman like that of some well placed indifference.
Having been involved in a few intense sexual relationships, I can testify that these women are quite insane and capable of almost anything. The Fire Down Below is a two way street. She’s no victim. She was in a jealous rage…the proverbial crime of passion.
This could be a useful test to see how far the men’s rights influence has reached into the judicial process, although I tend to agree with Price that the death sentence will be commuted. The real test is how society of the immediate future vies the severity of the crime – i.e. the length of time she actually spends behind bars.
I don’t support the death penalty but as this woman has shown an utter disregard for the life of another human being she should receive a sentence equivalent to the punishment a man would receive in the same situation. By “equivalent”, I don’t mean ‘the same’. A man is punished when his capacity to sow, reap and harvest the fruits of his volition is taken away, whereas a woman is punished when either she or her children cannot receive the fruits of another’s volition. What would be an equivalent and just punishment, I wonder?
Although I am far too young to remember, I am reminded of the hanging for the Murder of her cheating lover by Ruth Ellis (a peroxide-blonde gangster’s Moll in 1950s London). It was largely as a result of that case that Capital Punishment was abolished in England. The other case that tipped it was that of Derek Bentley, but having been in a similar situation (as recently as last year) to that of the murdered Policeman, and in the dark of night, I have no doubt that when Bentley said ‘Let him have it’ that he meant ‘Fire the gun’. Sadly there are any number of bastards who would otherwise have been hanged (and some bitches too). I am however largely against the death penalty because of the convictions for murder of people who are clearly innocent – and who cannot be brought back from the dead; and then they would dearly love to extend the death penalty to other offences – such as, I imagine, Rape – and then there really would be innocent men being hanged.
Many cases are determined not just in the face of the evidence beyond reasonable doubt but against any real evidence at all, such as Norris and Dobson banged up (and in breach of the Double-Jeopardy rule) of that black-power saluting Saint Stephen of Lawrence. Of course on other occasions the guilty walk free and I have successfully represented some of those.
Every murdering woman (when she cannot find someone else to blame) claims emotional abuse and usually with success. As we learn from Herodotus, the State cannot bring itself to treat women as being equally as responsible as men, and allow them to play their Pussy-Pass. This will not change.
@Charles Martel: “Ms. Arias had apparently been harassing him and had slashed his tires.”
I believe Carrie Underwood had a hit song with that theme.
One maxim all men should keep in mind at all times: “Don’t stick your d–k in crazy.” The trick of course, is trying to figure out which ones aren’t crazy beforehand.
For whatever reason, people think it’s nothing serious when a woman takes advantage of a man, but they feel sorry for women who are used in a similar manner.
The reason for this is obvious. It is the same reason that 90% of male cattle, goats, and chickens are turned into meat, but females of the same species are spared. Remember this the next time you see a group of farm animals. Where are all the adult males, who should be equal in number to the adult females? They were eaten.
The number of babies born can stay the same even if most men die, while that is not true if even a single woman dies. Hence, a woman’s life is far more valuable than a man’s.
The problem is that women no longer perform their primary function to any more than 10-20% of full capacity. Women only bear 10-20% of the children that they could. Hence, over-valuing women is now an obsolete practice under this modern reality.
In other words, human brains are obsolete in how they value each member of the species. Humans still value people based on the realities of the 100,000 years before the 19th century (or later).
Women only produce 10-20% of what they were expected to produce (and hence be valued for). Yet they are still over-valued.
Everything that makes the modern world different from 10,000 BC is produced by the group that receives the least value — adult males.
This will change, over time.
Back a few years ago, there was an astonishingly good miniseries from the UK called Jekyll. The opposite of Hyde’s rage was….love. Great stuff. I shan’t say more except to say that you should be careful of looking up clips on YouTube because the ending is there.
Anyway, more on topic….http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/ex-rep-joe-walsh-i-cant-afford-child?ref=fpblg
This was used on me for loss of joint custody; like it would have mattered. The funny thing is; I was not with anyone else at the time?
It is purely amazing how women can get away with soo much, and be held responsible for so little. Grrrl power indeed; all at the bitter end of military grade hollow points.
The court is more likely to crush her live in boyfriend for the attempted-joint-murder of your kid; after they demand the finances for your new wife to determine how much you will pay the foster parents who held the kid down. A few years later, she will be out for good behavior; and taking custody back. “For safety reasons” you will be disallowed to see or talk to your kid?
Just another example of insanity in our courts.
Yet the difference here is she has already been convicted; she is hoping to get out of the death penalty. I hope she fails; in fact, I don’t care if she succeeds! For one reason only; this will be a gauge for our societies turning towards men as human beings. We might be able to use this and other cases as an effective litmus test to see if our society as a whole is willing to hold women accountable? If they are truly ready for us the MHRM.
I would argue that women of any day, society, or age have been able to get away with murder, infidelity, and promiscuous sex. I also argue this is the main reason for modern feminism: When modern man frees himself with technology, forcing women to maintain as his equal; society and civilization will have to rewrite the script of male-female dynamics.
What I mean is that DNA testing, abortion, condoms, the death of traditional marriage all favor the strong back of a male. Without the dying grasp of government enforcement of women’s right to work; they cannot compete without technological advances. Yet even then; they still need 10-14 months to incubate and succor an offspring. Not to mention time after before coming back to ween said child.
This technological advancement, maybe an artificial womb, and of course the male birth control option; will put the nail in the coffin of feminism, marriage, and female supremacy in the courts. This is only if government does not desire a way to keep the financial windfalls and benefits of the old system that oppressed men.
I am assuming, based on experience, that it does desire that. This is why we are not as far as we are; and feminism is as far as it is.
>In other words, human brains are obsolete in how they value each member of the species. Humans still value people based on the realities of the 100,000 years before the 19th century (or later).
I don’t see how adult males were undervalued in ancient India, ancient China, Islamic culture, or the vast majority of cultures worldwide up until the 20th Century. It’s only in the 20th Century that males began to be undervalued.
Of course, men were considered somewhat expendable for military expeditions. But most men were not soldiers by trade.
I disagree with some of you in here. I think this lady stands a very good chance of being convicted of Murder One and ending up on death row.
Arizona, much like Texas, is a very strong law and order state. Prosecutors and juries do not cut much slack for women, compared to men, for violent crimes committed.
‘Ho had buyer’s remorse with her cad, so she iced him… feminists will feel it’s justifiable. Spin rationalization hamster, spin!
A bit O/T, but Opus, “Elevator Guy” never existed.
She made him up, as a stick to beat critics who’d been bagging on her in a late-night (4 a.m.) private bar full of atheist luminaries.
(She’s a barely-functional alcoholic, and proud of it. How she can remember anything at all is a minor miracle).
Her prominence is entirely due to her being fellow boozehound PZ Myers’ protege, as she’s embarrassingly uneducated and an idiot. The best theory is that she’s his illegitimate daughter (compare pix with his real one).
@Abelard Lindsey
Though I see your point; most people fail to realize that feminists do run most state bureaucracies from the background. For example, the Texas State AG is notorious for the collection of child support. Read fathers and families numerous exposes on said genius.
With that being said; if they run that part of the institution then they run its family courts. If they run its family courts, then they most likely heavily influence the other courts. They don’t talk about the female sentencing discount for nothing.
As much as I want to believe you, and i do suspect she is going to get the ax so to speak; experience tells me not to get my hopes up. Like I said above, this will be a litmus test of our society’s willingness to see the men’s movement. The continuous influx of female perpetuated violence is starting to be narrated by the men’s movement more, and feminists less. Though subtle, I keep watch for the script flip as it will be quiet; yet monumental in its implications.
Will we be men, prone to still favor isolation after we succeed; or consensus in wiping out a potentially dead boogey”woman” after we win? Essentially, I wish to see us maintain our rugged individualistic mentality and frame; compared to feminism’s herd mentality in complaining about our rights.
The last time American men fought for rights anywhere; it is a bloodbath somewhere in the world. I know many of us can make peaceful transitions, yet I sense we are dealing with a small yet highly influential group of women and their male sponsors who are hell bent on control. Taking it from them may be nightmarish; and I fear it will be necessary.
This story reminds me of the Steve McNair Case. He was dating a looney tunes, off-the-rocker, clinically insane slut but the libido got the better of him. That’s a horrible way to go.
Must of been quite a handsome dude for her to shoot his face off.
shina1008,
I don’t see how adult males were undervalued in ancient India, ancient China, Islamic culture, or the vast majority of cultures worldwide up until the 20th Century. It’s only in the 20th Century that males began to be undervalued.
Who were just about all military deaths????? Ever???? How about deaths at sea or in mineshafts?
You have a lot to learn. You still believe the lie that the average woman had it worse than the average man. That was never true on a large scale.
Women can be very vengeful when they realize they cannot get what they want from you. He made the mistake of being sadist to her; he should have left before reaching boiling point. I remember after having sex regularly with a woman for two months and then not joining her into her social circle she decided to break my condom during sex by biting it. I realized and almost wanted to punch her but decided to better excuse myself and stop the act. This way I got rid of her safely to never meet her again. But the moral is to be very careful with who you are sleeping with
I’m of a mind that the crazy ones are in fact detectable. They are like roller coasters. Hella fun to ride until they come off the rails.
We have every right to point out the disparity in sentencing that will likely let Arias off, but if we truly care about saving men then categorizing and qualifying the kind of behavior indicative of the female psychopath/sociopath so as to immunize young men from their corresponding charms should be part of this process.
It’s the same with rape. You can bitch all you want about how rape should never happen and how every woman should be able to walk down any dark street at any late hour, but that doesn’t arm them with the knowledge and common sense needed to avoid those dark streets and risky situations. And once a person gets raped, or shot in the head and stabbed repeatedly; being indignant about the whole thing doesn’t undo the damage now does it?
MKP is right. The PUAs are donkeys.