Christina Hoff Summers in NYT on Boys’ “Poor Performance” in School

by W.F. Price on February 5, 2013

For at least a decade now we’ve been seeing educators disingenuously “wondering” what’s going on with boys. I don’t believe teachers are confused in the least — they know exactly what’s going on. I’m certain of this because I have a fair number of educators in the family, and they know just what the “problem” is: boys are, in general, more difficult to teach.

Boys are rowdier, more prone to acting out, and don’t listen as carefully. Sometimes, they are aggravatingly unaware of their surroundings. My son, for example, will become interested in something, and suddenly the rest of the world doesn’t exist to him any longer.

Boys also lack the desire to please that seems to be innate in little girls. They don’t really care so much if the teacher is happy about what they are doing or saying.

But does this mean they are inferior students who “perform poorly?” No more than it means that an F-18 fighter, due the high skill required of its pilots, is an inferior airplane that performs poorly when compared to a cessna.

Despite the abysmal failure of public education in regards to boys, boys are still scoring higher on tests than girls. Even verbal tests in many cases. It’s just their grades that are lagging, and unfortunately that’s what keeps them out of college:

Boys score as well as or better than girls on most standardized tests, yet they are far less likely to get good grades, take advanced classes or attend college. Why? A study coming out this week in The Journal of Human Resources gives an important answer. Teachers of classes as early as kindergarten factor good behavior into grades — and girls, as a rule, comport themselves far better than boys.

The study’s authors analyzed data from more than 5,800 students from kindergarten through fifth grade and found that boys across all racial groups and in all major subject areas received lower grades than their test scores would have predicted.

In other words, the teachers – overwhelmingly female – don’t like them. Nor, apparently, do a number of NY Times commenters, who say it’s just desserts for all that male oppression of the past. Yes, that’s right: little kids who were born a few years ago must pay for the imagined sins of their grandfathers and great-grandfathers.

Example:

B Lundgren Norfolk, VA

Girls and women were shut out of education for centuries. In many parts of the world, they still are. No one cared. Now that men are coming up short, it’s a crisis. Please, let’s find a real crisis to solve.

Ah, feminists. So compassionate!

What this “boys crisis” really comes down to is a public schools crisis. Public schools may be a necessity, but they have some pretty severe flaws. As a socialized system, they do not reward teachers for being harder workers or even result-oriented. Teachers in my local public school district are in open rebellion against tests that would hold them accountable for their students performance.

What public school teachers prefer is an easy day with obedient, compliant students. Unfortunately for boys, they don’t typically fit into the obedient and compliant category. So, rather than try harder, the teacher simply marks them down and leaves it up to the boys or their parents to deal with it (parents, many of whom are single mothers, definitely share some of the responsibility).

In private schools it’s a different story. Sons of the wealthy have higher academic achievement than their female counterparts. This is because teachers at private schools are informed in no uncertain terms that students’ performance in their classes is directly relevant to their continued employment. Miraculously, rich people’s sons are better educated and perform better every step of the way than their daughters.

The problem isn’t that boys are poor students. It’s that they require more effort. However, the results speak for themselves. Despite the higher grades and academic achievement of girls in our society, boys still lead the way in productivity, innovation and achievement in every other measure.

So all this hand-wringing about boys’ performance is misplaced, and I think the rest of us are beginning to figure it out. It isn’t really that the boys are performing poorly; it’s the schools that are lousy, and grades reflect little more than how teachers “feel” about their students.

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geographybeefinalisthimself February 5, 2013 at 13:22

Don’t forget about the intractable teachers’ unions, even in right-to-work states (right-to-work only applies in the private sector). Teachers’ unions are probably the worst public sector unions of all.

Don’t forget about all the whining that female (and mangina/white knight male) teachers do. It’s not like they have to worry about a mine cave-in, an injury on a factory assembly line, or any other substantive health/bodily harm hazard on their job.

If female teachers were as racist/homophobic/bigoted towards any religious affiliation as they are sexist, they would be kicked to the curb pretty quickly. Unfortunately, the only turnover in the public school system is when the teacher dies, retires due to old age, or commits a felony.

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joeb February 5, 2013 at 13:25

This is just a mechanisms of auto-authoritarian, A word not well understood simply because of excepted norms .
We install Methodology that effects the way we score males ,Then Judge boys on the result of the tilted test .
Ask any Boy to tell you the stats of his favorite Baseball team or sport and he’s going to be a math genius . But ask him to count the loops on a knitting project . well you know the end .

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scatmaster February 5, 2013 at 13:31

My son is currently at a private school and is in the upper tenth percentile as opposed to when he was in the public school when he was in the lower tenth. Graduates in June.

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maxsnafu February 5, 2013 at 13:34

Reason #1572 why you shouldn’t send a child you love to public schools.

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Zorro February 5, 2013 at 13:37

I’ve long given up on CH Sommers. Disingenuous barely addresses her. Oh, and she retitled her book “The War Against Boys.” It’s no longer “misguided feminism” to blame. It’s “misguided policies.”

That bitch is d oing nothbing but running cover to deflect the obvious. Feminism is doing more to fucking ruin western civilization than drugs or al-Qaida. She’s in the same boat as Hanna Rosin, who also is deflecting the blame from where it should be.

How long are people going to tolerate the biggest hate movement since the Klan?

On a related note, I regret that I don’t have the link to an awesome article written by a Canuck in Canada. It’s not men, the mentally ill or guns responsible for schoolyard shootings: It’s the schools. The writer goes on to demonstrate how Canada practically invented school shootings. The takeaway? Get rid of public schools! They suck, they’re expensive and they’re a death trap.

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Zorro February 5, 2013 at 13:38

re: “d oing nothbing ”

I’m at work, typing with latex gloves. Try it sometime. It’s like skating in 8 inches of mud.

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ar10308 February 5, 2013 at 13:48

Combine this with the newly created insanity with regards to punishing boys who pretend play with imaginary guns in elementary schools, and it is becoming downright abusive to enroll a boy in public school.

“Oh, he made a gun with his finger and thumb?” Suspend him. Can’t have a boy who likes male things and imitates adult male professions like policemen or soldier.

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jay February 5, 2013 at 14:10

Why not sex segregated schools?

But noooo that is sexist.

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keyster February 5, 2013 at 14:15

Must see documentary:

http://www.amazon.com/Waiting-for-Superman/dp/B004JPVDQ2/ref=sr_1_1?s=instant-video&ie=UTF8&qid=1360101124&sr=1-1&keywords=waiting+for+superman

The teachers unions are stronger than the SEIU and the Teamsters combined. They’re untouchable sacred cows, about 95% female and wholly Democrat voters. They’ve feminized schools to the point boys are shutting down. The 800 pound gorilla in the room is gender separation with men teaching boys, while women teach girls.

What the Feminists have been doing is slowly, steadily, and quietly disenfranching boys in favor of girls so girls will be advantaged at competing with boys in the work place in chosen careers (and life). It’s the ESTEEM campaign run amok. Our public education system is a Female space, formed for the Female mind. Good behavior gets an A+, while the spirited young lad gets a B-.

It’s bad enough Encorpera has already become entirely feminized, as the product of our feminized education system. Merit is based on how others “feel” about you; not competence, productivity and work ethic.

The saddest part (see link above) is that there are bursts of concern about boys failing coming from cultural commentators a few times a year (several books about it), and NO ONE seems to give a shit. NO ONE dares take the lead because they’re scared shitless of the Feminist Inc. juggernaut reacting unfavorably and punishing anyone who might take a stand for boys, otherwise known as future misogynist pigs.

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shiva1008 February 5, 2013 at 14:39

“Girls and women were shut out of education for centuries. In many parts of the world, they still are. No one cared. Now that men are coming up short, it’s a crisis. Please, let’s find a real crisis to solve.”

This is disingenuous because a man HAS to work to survive and to have social status. In previous centuries, women had food and lodging taken care of for them, and received validation and status from family life, so they didn’t necessarily need an education.

But a man is always expected to work. Women have other options. They can marry a rich beta chump, pop out kids and live off welfare, or play career woman until that gets boring and then settle down and be a kept wife. Men have no other option but to work, which is why it’s unfair that they are being boxed out in education and the workplace.

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Tom Smith February 5, 2013 at 15:23

This article- and the related NY Times piece- ought to be a “call to arms” for men. We need non-manginas on school boards, legislatures, and in any position of power who can influence government policy related to education. It is high time that the people in school management and in corporate human resources departments are men, as they were in the past. This way the most productive and innovative are hired instead of the nepotism which is facing us today.

It is time to abolish tenure for poor teachers and put in place pay for performance for them- and the bottom line is that what has happened in schools today is the result of the “let’s keep adults (women) happy” which is highlighted in the movie “Waiting for Superman.” If you have not seen that movie, you should. It shows you kids who have their educational hopes riding on the “lottery” of a drawing for “who can get ‘lucky’ and get into the best schools.” It made me depressed- and it makes me wonder what happened to this country.

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Jean Valjean February 5, 2013 at 15:50

While I do not disagree with anything said in this article I do think you’ve left out a major component of male underachievement.

The school systems, their curriculum, and the texts are all written with the intent of indoctrinating students in a hatred and contempt for males. It imposes a viewpoint so common in our society that men are bad and women are victims.

Faced with an education system that insists that males are inferior and violent and that any competition against girls should be discouraged as “oppression” it’s no wonder so many young men are alienated from education.

Having recently graduated from college with a second bachelors at the age of 42 I know all too well the discrimination and bigotry that young men face. I at least have the enlightenment and psychological tools to name my malaise and deal with it. For many men they may only understand themselves to be unhappy or unwanted and drift away in response.

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Towgunner February 5, 2013 at 15:55

feminism can only bring up by bringing down.

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keyster February 5, 2013 at 16:04

They can marry a rich beta chump, pop out kids and live off welfare, or play career woman until that gets boring and then settle down and be a kept wife.

But it’s not necessarily a matter of fairness between men and women. It’s that eventually she’ll price herself out of the market for what she deems to be “available” or husband worthy men. This is where equality and natural female hypergamy collide. This is why parents of daughters need to be asking “Who will she have to marry?”.

That there will be these strident careerist women marching off to their junior executive positions in Encorpera, while their subserviant “gender positive” husband stays home all day with the kids – is an egalitarian utopiast myth. Not to mention the more women being “disparate impact” affirmative action selections (as in promoted up the ranks), the less opportunities for men. Men won’t compete with women. It’s not in his nature and the playing field is tilted if he tries.

Single motherhood will be more common than marriage (it already is among blacks and hispanics), if women choose to give birth at all. The man is superfluous at best, an annoyance at worst. This will make for a very broken society going forward.

What happens when men stop achieving, innovating, producing?
Women, equal in every regard, step in en masse to take his place?
I don’t think so.
The man competes with other men to ensure his genes will be superior and carry on. The woman competes against men, and government and culture supports the notion this is a righteous and noble development.

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epoche* February 5, 2013 at 16:45

Fixing the schools wont help things one whit as long as disparate impact, the income tax and equal pay for equal work are in place.

From
http://ricochet.com/member-feed/Rebuttal-To-The-End-of-Me n There are two ways of organizing society – as noted by Victorian Lawyer Sir Henry Maine A) Status (Compulsory cooperation) and B) Contract (Voluntary cooperation) and the modern progressive movement is a giant step backwards towards compulsory cooperation and away from voluntary cooperation. How a group of people determine achievement says nearly everything about how their lives are going to be lived – this is why feminist Kay Hymowitz noted that these degrees “take years” in “preadulthood” but mistakenly blamed the “knowledge economy” instead of noting the shift away from material resourcefulness and towards credentialing as the source of social standing. Those are the “special ingredients” that “The End of Men” author Hanna Rosin never mentions. The special ingredients which involve handing out loans to adults irrespective of ability to pay and demanding pay according to a politicized formula constitute a recipe that kept mankind in poverty for most of the w0rlds history. I can most certainly disagree with the notion of equality of opportunity for women or men or anyone else for that matter. At one time in our country private property and liberty of contract were held to be sacrosanct. Its not as simple as to merely state that women were “denied” a position – someone has to offer it. It does not matter one whit whether one is manufacturing identity politics or automobiles the issue is whether or not private property and liberty of contract are sacrosanct. It would be closer to the truth that manufacturing jobs were sent elsewhere because it is easier to locate actual production where the government doesnt enforce nonsensical laws such as equal pay for equal work. There seems to be no perception that an individual’s wages have to be paid by their productivity or they will not be employed and that in an era of globalization it would be easier to avoid such burdensome regulations and locate business elsewhere. I work for a collection agency that collects on defaulted loans and I dont believe that we would have achieved our level of prosperity had our ancestors handed out “assistance” to adults irrespective of their ability to repay it back in such a haphazard thoughtless fashion as our current government does. According to the feminist interpretation 0f history making loans is more important than making good loans provided women are in charge.

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gwallan February 5, 2013 at 16:52

“Girls and women were shut out of education for centuries.”

Simply not true.

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zimmy February 5, 2013 at 17:48

I have to disagree with Zorro. Ms Summers has done an outstanding job presenting the ‘plight’ of boys and men in current society. She is totally distrusted by feminists and has even had threats against her for speaking out against feminism.

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Bob Wallace February 5, 2013 at 18:38

I kid you not: I graduated high school with a D+++ average. I was supposed to have a C, but they let me go because I had already been accepted to college.

My IQ was listed as 126 at 12. I didn’t turn in my homework and what I did was barely done. I failed one class and was kicked out of another class because I do the work.

I sometimes wonder what the teachers thought of me. Most probably, they didn’t.

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Anon66 February 5, 2013 at 18:47

Most people know Title IX as the legislation that killed many male athletic programs. But its bigger impact was the verbiage demanding that standardized tests be deemphasized if they showed boys scoring higher than girls. Yes they just assumed that if boys were scoring higher then the test must be at fault. This led to the admission standards emphasizing grades and extracurricular activities, which we all know girls do better than boys at.
So the reason boys are not being admitted to college is simply one of definition. If they changed the entrance criteria back to what it was before then instant fix to the lack of boys at university.
Ofcourse the liberals and feminists would much rather talk about what is wrong with boys because that plays in to their sense of superiority.

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survivorman February 5, 2013 at 19:02

Re: Waiting for Superman.

I have that video on my shelf – I couldn’t watch it past the ~30 min point..
Too depressing. And notably – they skirt around the issue of *fatherless children* – it’s implied.. but only as an ancillary issue.

I doubt that someone of the “blue pill” mindset would even catch it !

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Anonymous Reader February 5, 2013 at 19:10

Keyster is right about the teacher’s unions. They are untouchable. Look at the budgets of most, maybe all, of the states in the US and the single biggest line item is absolutely going to be K-12 brainwashing. No matter how much money they get, it is never enough. No matter how secure the pension, it is never enough. More! More! More! It’s the standard cry of the feminized.

Schooling is a bubble, just like university land. Now that online courses are beginning to get accredited, there is an alternate path for boys and men to get their certification in some topic or subject. That means taking boys out from under the fat sows, and putting them into real education.

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Pugs Fugly February 5, 2013 at 19:53

Like Jay said above, segregate the schools.

I was a lazy student, but the couple of teachers I remember were male. The classes were better organized and structured, with no tolerance for acting up. I remember those teachers because I remember actually learning something I didn’t already know.

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Opus February 5, 2013 at 20:01

Old films can be very revealing – I am thinking of English movies – because they reveal, in their unintended ways how things really were. For example perhaps you saw The Angry Silence, filmed in 1960s Ipswich in the County of Suffolk, a very realistic portrait of Factory life as it was then. Indeed if you were a youngster then, the chances are that you would leave school at fourteen and acquire a job in a factory – that is what happened to 90% of all Brits. Or go back to just the 1930s, and a strange movie starring a young and handsome James Mason, I Met a Murderer, in which Mason plays a Ploughman, ploughing the enclosures with nothing but a hand-driven plough pulled by Oxen, a sight common in southern England until the 1940s at least – and unchanged since The Middle Ages. How much education did those Ploughmen or Factory Hands need? Certainly no more than they actually had. So allow me to consider my own family. My Father (armed with School Certificate) and thus able to get a white-collar job, left school at fifteen. By the age of twenty-one he owned his own, and not clapped-out, motor car. He was doing well. Compare that with my Mother who left a rather up-market school for girls aged Seventeen (founded in 1726 – as I said the other day – that is to say a half century before your revolution, when Ben Franklin was only twenty). The fees had been paid by her own maternal Grandmother, but even so she was not ear-marked for work, for as she frequently told me, her own Mother had said to her ‘No woman in this family has ever worked and YOU are not going to be the first’. Grand Mama – who seems to have been a spendthrift of her husband’s money certainly and no different from most every woman today believed in female pedestalisation by reason of beoing the possessor of a Vagina; and what did my Mother learn at school? Well amongst other things, what was then called Domestic Science, in other words skills of great practical use, if – and I know this is a truly oppressive thought – she was to marry. To begin with, she could cook, a skill lacking in the wives of more than one of my friends, the woman having one trophy child, working by day in her corporate-cubicle leaving it to her kitchen-bitch of a husband to perform. Crazy or what!

I thus think the drivel that is quoted from a B. Lundrgren of Norfolk Va – a version of Let them Eat Cake – should not be allowed to pass without revealing it for the (as Shiva1008 says) disingenious nonsense that it actually is. There is only so much education to go round, and education costs money. As education has (beyond itself) a practical purpose it has always for reasons that are surely too obvious to need explaining been the case that until recently most education went to men, but even then only a small percentage of them were so privileged. It is only by reason of our extraordinary wealth, combined with the fact that women are now too posh to reproduce that it has been possible to spend or waste vasts amounts of money in (in the expression of Captain Capitalism) ‘worthless degrees’ – which is in the main what women do, because they either can’t or won’t do the STEM subjects.

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kuis February 5, 2013 at 21:25

In Australia there has been some attempt to deal with boys education, but the academics say the problem is patriarchy, not the lack of teaching strategy or favouritism towards girls. I it clearky B.S. My brother is doing his teaching rounds at boys schools with female mentors and he claims that male teachers are not treated that well in the profession. He also suspects that his mentors downgraded him for producing better results with ‘class clowns’.

Boys respond to more direct and logical forms of teaching, not touchy-feely crap.

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joeb February 5, 2013 at 22:12

Judith Warner: did the same thing in Over-medicating are boy , As soon as the pharmaceutics co. paid her she flipped flopped so hard it hurt me .
Feminist whore are nothing But whores . These women would sell there first born for there own security , Emotional or monetary .
This whole bullshit about formative years ,is a crock . A women has no sense of mother hood They are mindless , immature, and most often stupid .
We protect them from the horrors of war and the God awful work hell we go to so they can , Princess up to the next stiff cock .
Leaving these beasts alone this my Children at schools for 8 hours a day terrifies me and Id rather Home school .
Im 50 and never met a women that didn’t leave pain and a trail of stupid where she slept .
Think the worst because the worst is what will happen . If a female has anything to do with your happiness . I don’t care if you pay to be a father or find a dumpster baby or for that matter kill the mother after birth but , For God sake don’t let them teach your children how to be like them .
We need to change , Fatherhood , We can’t change them .

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Nemo February 5, 2013 at 22:15

The rise of online university courses has the potential to liberate boys and young men from the soft tyranny of political correctness.

It also threatens to make most of the brick-and-mortar colleges irrelevant. The elite research universities and the places that serve mostly as social clubs for rich kids will survive, but many smaller schools will not be able to compete with online universities.

The cybercolleges will require no “student activity fees”, no rent for dorms, no gasoline for a commute to school, no significant administrative overhead, and no useless gender studies programs to subsidize with money diverted from more useful programs.

The establishment will HATE it, businesses will LOVE it and will start to treat those who do well in online education as the “smart” kids who “know the score” and will do well in business.

I strongly suggest that men should check out this trend – it could do to education what the Internet is doing right now to newspapers and print magazines (Newsweek no longer publishes “offline”, for example).

Who has a brighter future today – a website designer or an old-school print journalist? Something to ponder …

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Jaego February 5, 2013 at 23:28

http://frontpagemag.com/2012/bruce-bawer/womens-studies-and-the-spread-of-man-hatred/

Pop NeoCon Central. I don’t like them but they are the big time. Keep it comin’ gentlemen, we’re getting there. I saw an AVFM poster at my local mall too.

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kuis February 6, 2013 at 01:18

Price, the reason public school teachers resist these measures is because the relationship between teacher performance and student grades is not clear cut. There are just too many variables. Private school teachers are definitely more accountable, but they also have the advantage of teaching more.academically inclined students the are relatively well behaved.

I’m for improving teacher performance, but too much emphasis on grades is the wrong approach imo, and they have found that teachers tend to inflate grades under these conditions, and that only serves to cheapen education in the long run.

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Opus February 6, 2013 at 05:00

A further thought or two on the history of education, in the last millenia of which I do not claim expertise, and so am open to correction.

A Thousand years ago all the Education, such as it was, was in the hands of The Church through their Monasteries and Convents. The intellectual ingenuity of those monks – Franciscans, Dominiacns, and later The Jesuits, is too well known to need comment; brilliant men like Duns Scotus, and William of Ockham. Predictably the Convents produced nothing.

The ancient University’s of Oxford and Cambridge taught the Trivium and Quadrivium; subjects, such as astronomy and music. The age of their students was often in the 12 – 15 range, so they were more like modern secondary education. Education may then have moved to the Courts, for a little tart like Anne Boleyn was schooled in the latest up-to-date Humanism of the period, as of course was her daughter Elizabeth. At some stage, and at expence to the State, the Grammar Schools were instituted for poor boys. The burgeoning state of the late middle-ages, had produced a need for men who could both write and use arithmatic effectively and those schools from were attended by the brightest boys; chaps like William Shakespeare and John Locke. Following the dissolution of the monastries in 1533, the role of the Grammar’s can only have increased and to assist Henry set up schools attached to the Cathedrals, all going by the name of King’s – which schools exist to this day. As the bourgeosie expanded Grammar and Public schools for girls came into existance. As with the Convents no noticable intellectual brilliance was to be discerned, and there is simply no point providing schools for girls in an age of limited finance if, as is always the case, the girls are likely to give up their careers and sooner rather than later. This remains the case, for I understand that no less than 60% of girls who train as Dentists, give up their jobs within ten years of qualification. This is the most egregious waste of money and leads to the poaching of Dentists from other and usually Third-World countries. These are the consequances of the religious belief in sexual equality.

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Anon7 February 6, 2013 at 05:36

When my son was in the 7th grade, he started having trouble in math. His grade dropped to a “C”. Concerned, I arranged a parent-teacher conference to try to get to the bottom of this problem with his female math teacher.

“What parts of the curriculum is he having problems with? Tests, homework, class participation?” “All of them” was the reply I got. So, I went through the lot.

He was getting “C’s” on tests. “I see. And how many questions does he fail to answer correctly?” “Oh, he gets all of the answers right.”

Yup, that’s right. He got ALL of the answers right on tests, and was graded “C”. It turns out that the teacher wanted to see student’s work, I guess because she wanted to make sure that they are doing the problem correctly. But if you always get the problems right, and clearly you aren’t cheating, aren’t you of necessity doing them correctly?

My son was also doing “C” work on the homework assignments. So I asked “How many of the homework problems does he answer correctly?” “Oh, he answers all of the problems correctly. He doesn’t show how he got the answer, though. Also, he doesn’t properly retain his homework in a neatly kept notebook.”

Yes, that’s right. Students were required to neatly file and maintain careful records of all of their assignments, and the grades they received.

As it turns out, my son does not have the makings of a good secretary.

The rest of his grade was based on class performance. My son, who was able to see the answer when he read the question, was apparently not paying full attention when the teacher rambled on showing examples of how to do the same problem over and over.

Anyway, long story short, I encouraged my son to double-up on math, taking two years of accelerated math in the same year. And now he is a high school senior who is dual-enrolled at an excellent university taking honors math analysis, their most difficult theoretical math class taken by just 25 freshmen out of 8,000 students. Last semester, he aced the class with a straight “A” (And yes, all but two of the students are male.).

It pains my heart to think of all the boys who just gave up in that woman’s class. How will we move forward as a country when the best students are given “C’s” and the best at filing and paperwork are given “A’s”?

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MRA February 6, 2013 at 06:45

Miraculously, rich people’s sons are better educated and perform better every step of the way than their daughters.

You think is coincidence that every political, businessman not matter how white knight or feminist, liberal open minded claim to be, will send his son to a private all-boys school?

They know their sons will fail and wont get his full potential in the public sector, which is another reason why feminist are against single sex education, in that is why they control the academia, because the poor can’t afford single sex education for their sons, I know many parents that want to send their children to single sex school but can’t afford it.

Parents do not, there is not single-sex public school

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Tom Smith February 6, 2013 at 06:55

@survivorman There are several reasons all people should HAVE to watch “Waiting for Superman.”

First, it shows what happens when you have kids raised by single mothers without fathers. These mothers will blame everyone else for their personal failings (i.e. it’s the school’s fault, the teacher’s fault, the dad’s fault- who doesn’t pay child support because he cannot see the child, etc.). Ultimately, it was the woman’s “choice” to be a single mother which put her child in the position of being desparate for much of his life. So, the first lesson is that kids in two parent families will usually do better- partly because they make more income but also because the kids need a balance of the genders to make sure they are exposed to different methods of learning.

Second, schools have become the “gatekeepers” of success. Go to a school where it’s not feminized and teachers care about ALL students (boys and girls), and there are better outcomes. Also, particularly for the boys raised by single mothers (without meaningful dad contact), if there’s a male role model for the boy in the school, the outcome is ALWAYS better (so much for how feminized schools are successful).

Third, the selection process for the best public schools work is a total crap shoot. For the private ones, it’s determined by MONEY (i.e. who can pay). For the public ones, it’s determined by lottery. And imagine sitting there while the long term educational future of your child is being decided by a drop of a lottery ball- you will see how this works if you watch the entire movie.

As someone who pays taxes to support this system, I am ashamed- and all parties are to blame. This includes incompetent teachers, administrators, and the bureaucrats who support the entire system.

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Anonymous Reader February 6, 2013 at 08:25

Boys also lack the desire to please that seems to be innate in little girls. They don’t really care so much if the teacher is happy about what they are doing or saying.

That’s because boys and girls are not identical, nor interchangeable. Girls are not just “boys who will be able to have babies someday”.

However, no teacher or writer or academic, etc. can dare to say that boys are different from girls because that would attack one of the fundamental premises of feminism (and of socialism), the blank-slate fallacy.

We all thus must do what we can, where we are, with what we have, to save boys from the feminized K-12 brainwashing system. One at a time, that is what we can and must do. We can’t take over school boards, because the manginas will outvote us. But we can subvert in many ways from below, starting with this simple fact:

BOYS ARE NOT DEFECTIVE GIRLS

Teach this truth to a teacher, and the system is damaged more profoundly than all the protest marches could ever do.

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keyster February 6, 2013 at 08:41

According to the feminist interpretation 0f history making loans is more important than making good loans provided women are in charge.

The sub-prime mortgage market was being pushed very hard by the federal government to make loans to single women and minorities, so they could “realize the American dream of home ownership”. These are people who did not understand the ramifications and risks of adjustable rate mortgages.

A friend of mine worked at Countrywide and whenever a sub-prime applicant would present itself, they’d match blacks with black loan officers, hispanics with hispanics and so forth. The caucasian loan officers generally would avoid the subprime customers or have them directed towards minority loan officers. (minorities trusted loan officers of their own race more, and were easier to sell or close)

Now you combine the subprime bubble with the mortgage backed security market going from $100 Billion to $60 Trillion in a matter of a few years (mostly infused foreign money), and no one noticing (like the ratings agencies) and you have a monumental financial collapse of which we’re still recovering.

You see it wasn’t fair that mostly caucazoids seemed to be enjoying the benefits of home ownership in America for so many years, whereas blacks and hispanics were being left behind. This needed to be corrected by “freeing up” the subprime market where minorities were concerned – because ostensibly the housing market would continue to grow, values would never go down and regardless of whether you could afford the payments or not you’d always have the equity to fall back on.

All it took was a few home foreclosures on a given block, and these foreclosures crashed the value of real estate on that block, and that neighborhood and that city and that state…and $340K homes in 2006 are worth $180K in 2009 – but the mortgage is still for $340K – hence “underwater”.

I blame the “compassionate conservativism” of Bush (ie – Republican pandering for minority votes), Barney Frank and Chris Dodd who both over saw housing and Freddie and Frannie…and the rating agencies that continued to give mortgage backed securities a AAA+ rating in the face of impending doom. (IOW they wouldn’t bite the hand that feeds or were wholly incompetent)

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keyster February 6, 2013 at 08:56

As someone who pays taxes to support this system, I am ashamed- and all parties are to blame. This includes incompetent teachers, administrators, and the bureaucrats who support the entire system.

America’s teachers unions — particularly the National Education Association and the American Federation of Teachers — are the most organized and powerful forces in education politics. These unions continue to block reforms needed to improve our nation’s schools by putting their focus on teachers “rights” rather than on the students they teach. The unions ARE the “system”.

If you’re a Democrat and you oppose or try and reform education the unions will eviserate you publicly and deny you campaign contributions and support. Because if you’re against the unions you’re against teachers, and if you’re against teachers, you’re against “our kidz”. Fighting the teachers unions on reform is like fighting Feminist Inc. – it’s an electric third rail of politics. It seems there’s nothing anyone can do but look out for your own.

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joeb February 6, 2013 at 11:00

I believe in Unions in The privet sector . But School teachers don’t need unions . Why because America is already a union . Double insulating them self’s against Job failure .All Government Jobs Its Just common sense ,To have Skin in the game . The same wage as the norm the same health care as medicare , The same SS program , No special retirement .
From Top to Bottom . Having skin in the game is necessary .
If teacher and all Government worker where in the SS program they would stop stealing from it to pay teachers that are not in the SS program .
We wonder why Government Employee’s have such a disconnect with real Americans .
A walked on a group Dynamics seminar about a week ago because all the Female could tell me is Group dynamics from a classroom and teaching view , This was lunacy I was mad .
There view of life is insulated so the sounding box is comfort of there own voice
They don’t even know why they teach what they teach or how I effects The market Its simply auto drone .
This disconnect is 82% female . who could of known that . Wow

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Ryan February 6, 2013 at 12:24

Back in high school I had fantastic grades up until junior year. My English teacher was an overweight, evil, feminazi traditionalist woman who nobody liked and everybody kissed ass for. She disparaged the men, refused to read any books or poems that were even remotely masculine and basically behaved like the stereotypical mean girl/ high school bitch but with authority. I was accused of cheating and she tried to have me expelled despite a clean record. After that she went out of her way to fuck with me. By the second quarter of the class every single boy had dropped out of her class… including myself.

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Anon7 February 6, 2013 at 14:04

Meanwhile, a seven year-old boy in Denver is kicked out of school for playing with imaginary weapons:

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Anon7 February 6, 2013 at 14:04
skeptic February 6, 2013 at 17:35

I think you might be overlooking the point that boys may be much more difficult to teach now than they used to be because their fathers are not involved in their lives. Girls don’t necessarily become more aggressively defiant at a young age without a Father Figure. Boys absolutely do.

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Lyn87 February 6, 2013 at 19:55

If a foreign power did to our education system what we have done to it ourselves, we would consider it an act of war.

1) Teaching staffs ought to be majority-male. Boys need male teachers… and so do girls. Many students of both sexes come from homes with no adult men present – very few don’t already have a more-than-sufficient number of adult women in their lives. Finding a woman who can teach well is about as common as finding one who can fight well: a few exist, but they’re rare.

2) All administrators should be male except (perhaps) a few who may preside over female teachers only.

3) Single-sex primary and secondary education should be the norm, not the exception, although some select classes may be mixed during the school day. All the teachers of boys should be male, and at least half of the teachers of girls.

4) Public employees should not be permitted to unionize at all. That includes teachers. One could make the case that private-sector unions have a purpose (although I tend to disagree), but public employee unionization creates inherent conflicts of interest.

I could go in all night…

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Gay State Girl February 6, 2013 at 20:04

So swallow your pride and become an elementary or nursery school teacher and take the lower salary.

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anoncoward February 6, 2013 at 21:32

Nemo wrote:
The cybercolleges will require no “student activity fees”, no rent for dorms, no gasoline for a commute to school, no significant administrative overhead, and no useless gender studies programs to subsidize with money diverted from more useful programs.
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But we wont be able to have huge sports programs?

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Nemo February 7, 2013 at 00:49

@ anoncoward:

That would be a feature, not a bug.

If there were no college athletics programs, then the minor leagues for baseball would be copied by the other major sports. The private sector would handle athletics instead of the public sector for adults (anyone over age 18). That’s much better than having Title IX rules shoved down the throats of young adults.

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Towgunner February 7, 2013 at 12:46

@Nemo:

Can’t agree more with your post above. Get the public side out of all athletics, period. Let the private side handle it. Professional sports today are becoming a joke. Certainly “feminized” in all the obvious ways whether its the constant awareness of breast cancer dressing football players in pink or the mere existence of the subsidized wnba. Get em out. If we let the private sector run this…too bad so sad nature will speak again and we’ll see sports once again become male focused.

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Tom936 February 7, 2013 at 15:02

Zorro February 5, 2013 at 13:37
I ve long given up on CH Sommers. Disingenuous barely addresses her.

Dr Sommers has done a great deal of excellent work. Please give credit where it’s due.

Oh, and she retitled her book The War Against Boys. It s no longer misguided feminism to blame. It s misguided policies.

That bitch is d oing nothbing but running cover to deflect the obvious.

Unfortunately, that’s not entirely false. She does tend to deflect from appropriately blaming Feminism. For instamce, with her it’s “Equity Feminism” vs “Gender Feminism”, but I’ve yet to see a single Equity Feminist other than CSH herself.

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Lyn87 February 7, 2013 at 17:12

Gay State Girl February 6, 2013 at 20:04

So swallow your pride and become an elementary or nursery school teacher and take the lower salary.

You may think you “got” me, but you didn’t. Although I am a retired military officer, I had break in service, and taught school for part of that time. Lest you accuse me of lying over the internetz, I will offer my customary disclaimer: Bill Price, the sight owner, knows my real name and can verify what’s on my professional resume if he is so inclined. One of my former headmasters even wrote me a nice recommendation on my LinkedIn profile.

The youngest students I ever taught were in 5th Grade (elementary school), but I switched to older students (7th – 12th Grade) after one year of that and remained there for the remainder of my teaching time. Needless to say it was a private school in which I made about half of what the public school teachers in my town made, despite the fact that our students were two to three years ahead of theirs in every measurable category (except delinquency… go figure).

Obviously I was no longer on active military duty at that time, but I was still a member of the Reserve Component. That allowed me to partially make up for my pitiful teaching salary by attending a lot of extra training events during the summers, as well as the monthly weekend drills that occur year-round. As a credentialed instructor I was always in demand as units conducted their two-week annual training events, and as an officer it was a sizable supplement to what I made at school.

I was about to walk into a class full of 8th Graders when a couple of planes hit a couple of buildings. My teaching career didn’t last much longer as I was recalled to active duty and ended up staying in uniform long enough to retire with a reserve retirement (which means I can’t collect anything until I turn 60).

I enjoyed teaching quite a bit, and would consider going back to it, but I will NOT willingly teach in a public school as it would betray my Libertarian principles, which I hold pretty dear. As for private school, if I could find a school I liked at a salary that wouldn’t require me to go bankrupt I absolutely WOULD consider taking a pay cut to get back into it.

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Georice81 February 8, 2013 at 11:50

Part of the problem that I see everywhere is that women think that little boys need to be like them. Boys are boys and need to run, jump, fight and be overall rambunctious. Women see this and freak out and think that there is something wrong with these kids since the girls are not that way. One solution is to drug the boys which is happening everywhere.

The solution is to expose the boys to real men who understand them. They can control and teach them and the boys will look up to them. This means more male teachers and possibly all-boys public schools taught by well compensated male teachers.

Remember, boys do not make good little girls.

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beta_plus February 10, 2013 at 06:52

If there was ever an argument for online education, this is it. Combined with home schooling, it would massively reduce educational costs while taking the emotion out of it.

Still can’t believe after over a decade of cheap home broadband this still hasn’t happened. Or maybe now I can.

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Brian February 10, 2013 at 16:13

John Taylor Gatto – “The Underground History of American Education”

You’re welcome.

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HH February 10, 2013 at 17:06

I retired from active duty as a Chief Petty Officer in 1994. Before retiring, I took the NTE. The NTE tells you you’re in the top 25%, middle 50%, or lower 25%. It also gives you the raw scores for the middle 50%. My education as a teacher consisted of 2 weeks of instructor school in the Navy. My raw scores were 1 or more questions right more then the middle 50% in every area. I’m trying to remember the numbers, but this is close enough. In math, the middle 50% was 7-16 questions right out of 30. I had 30. A lot of those middle 50%ers are teaching right now.

I’m not teaching. I’m not credentialed. Would have had to take two years out of my life to get credentialed, with a family to support. And, didn’t bother for another reason. It is dangerous for a middle aged white male to enter into a public school classroom. Especially one who will demand students meet standards. One false accusation of sexual harassment and – BOOM- your life is over.

Had an outstanding middle school male teacher in my local public school. My older kids had him as a teacher. He was falsely accused of sexual harassment and suspended without pay. The investigation took more then a year- though it was patently obvious from the gitgo the accusations were false. After he was cleared, he got his back pay, and promptly retired. He had been old enough to retire before the incident. But enjoyed teaching. So he stayed on- until it became unenjoyable. The accusers didn’t have the same melanin content in their skin as he did either, so we were really surprised the racist accusation didn’t come up.

Yep- it’s a dangerous profession for middle aged white males. For white males, period. Working with loud and powerful dangerous equipment is safer. I know what each piece of equipment is capable of. And it always reacts the same way- no personalities need be considered and no feelings can be hurt.

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Zorro February 10, 2013 at 18:10

zimmy February 5, 2013 at 17:48

I have to disagree with Zorro. Ms Summers has done an outstanding job presenting the ‘plight’ of boys and men in current society. She is totally distrusted by feminists and has even had threats against her for speaking out against feminism.

Let’s chat about Christianity, shall we? Leave feminism off to the side for the nonce.

What is Christianity? Can you tell me? Authoritatively? Objectively?

No. You can’t. Not in your f*cking dreams.

I would try, but I’d be shouted down. I’d say Christianity is the general belief in the teachings of Christ (from the Greek “Kristos” meaning “Lord” and gathered from the New Testament. The teaching of Jesus, Issa, whatever-you-want-to-call-him-her-it-them as re the meaning of God’s will. And that from the Old Testament.

Now, 2,000+ years after his/her/their death, we have Protestants, Episcopalians, Catholicism Vatican 1, Vatican 2, Vatican Mel Gibson, 7th Day Adventists, Jews for Jesus, Unitarians, Pre-Lutheran Protestants, Anabaptists, Brethren, Methodists, Pentacostalists, Charismatics, Southcottites, Latter Day Saints, Millerites, and about 77 other groups of screaming loonies that say JESUS is the way and the light.

Who’s in charge of this lunatic ward?

Yup. The Loonies.

Same with feminism. Who, indeed is in charge? Nobody. Not Nurse Ratched, not Gloria Steinem, and not you, Princess Fucking Snowflake.

Feminism is a rampant group of screaming lunatics who stampeded off the reservation, and only a batshit-crazy lunatic would follow them.

So, again, I say to all with a kind heart and a decent mind: Put down the toxic feminist bullshit and rejoin the human race.

Be a human being again.

There was a time people were decent and kind. Let’s be that again.

Kill identity politics.

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bitch hunter February 11, 2013 at 23:28

Boys are creative . . . Girls can only maintaine a machine or electronic just like they maintained all their assignments in a file and god good grades but men are innovative the dont give a shit about grades . . All they care about is wat they learn !

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P. February 15, 2013 at 00:38

“In private schools it’s a different story. Sons of the wealthy have higher academic achievement than their female counterparts. This is because teachers at private schools are informed in no uncertain terms that students’ performance in their classes is directly relevant to their continued employment. Miraculously, rich people’s sons are better educated and perform better every step of the way than their daughters. ”

Upper middle class Americans have much lower divorce rates and out of wedlock birth rates, hence much lower domestic drama that their sons have to deal with at home. Much of the acting out of boys in public schools is because of a chaotic home life. I can’t imagine growing up watching my divorced or never married parents “date” and ride the pussy coaster or cock carousel, but most lower to middle class kids are growing up witnessing just that.

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