Leon Panetta has finally ended all misconceptions we may have had about women being the kinder, gentler sex: they are now officially equal on the battlefield. No more chivalry, no more going easy on them, and if they are enemies, no mercy. Welcome to the world of men, ladies!
However, they can’t be fully equal until they, too, are forced to register with Selective Service, just like every 18-year-old American boy.
Selective Service remains a bastion of inequality and male privilege, and this surely must be rectified now that women are every bit as able to serve our nation under arms.
From the Selective Service System website, at the top of which are photos of happy, smiling young men, just waiting to be blown up:
If you are a man ages 18 through 25 and living in the U.S., then you must register with Selective Service. It’s the law. According to law, a man must register with Selective Service within 30 days of his 18th birthday. Selective Service will accept late registrations but not after a man has reached age 26. You may be denied benefits or a job if you have not registered. You can register at any U.S. Post Office and do not need a social security number. When you do obtain a social security number, let Selective Service know. Provide a copy of your new social security number card; being sure to include your complete name, date of birth, Selective Service registration number, and current mailing address; and mail to the Selective Service System, P.O. Box 94636, Palatine, IL 60094-4636.
Even today foul sexism and the evil patriarchy maintains an iron grip in certain sectors of government and society. Why shouldn’t women also have the privilege of being eligible for the draft? Is it fair that men must always claim the lion’s share of awards for courage in battle? Why, it’s bad enough that all those “dead white males” got to write history for so long, so why should so many of the men blown up, shot or burned to death be festooned with stars, ribbons and medals when such a privilege and honor could be bestowed upon our poor, oppressed sisters (who are just as strong and brave, after all)?
Yes, it’s time for women to register for the draft. If they are now just as capable of serving in combat, then it isn’t equal not to include them in the draft. That would be privilege without responsibility, and we know our fine women deserve far better than that.
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Notice how Selective (dis)Service registration’s mailing address is in Illinois, the state that cost America the Equal Rights Amendment.
Women will fight tooth and nail against registration, arguing that they will be raped while in combat. They have even been known to ask how to make the draft safer for women (“safe combat” is an oxymoron).
Remember that there are still women who think that Selective (dis)Service is an artifact, my older sister being one of them. I refused to attend her wedding over that remark and I’m not ashamed that I did not attend. She had it coming to her.
Selective (dis)Service should be up front about the penalty of five years in prison and a $250,000 fine for non-registration.
I will be 56 on Saturday. An old man.
I can probably prevail in a fistfight with 99% of today’s military women.
Would rather go to combat with a platoon of post-50 men than a platoon of 20 year-old women.
Most young men should be able to kick my ass. Even at my advanced age I still get “challenged” by tough guys. Most men 18-50 can be hammered into combat soldiers.
This flagrant lie about women being suited for combat does not bode well for women in general.
A lot of men are going to die because of this.
Should follow up this essay with a post about Obama’s plan to castrate American technical prowess by inflicting Title IX on our engineering schools.
It will be the 1-2 punch that finally puts the American man flat on his back. It’s time for men to start gaming the system until is collapses.
Au contrair, Welmer my friend.
Women are only to be permitted to serve on paper combat-units for the purposes of combat-unit salaries, higher wages, better contractual terms, benefits, pensions, promotions, honors and citations.
They are definitely not going to actually serve on real combat-units risking mind, life and limb and are certainly not going to do so being subject to conscription as men are subject.
This is not going to end well.
Thankfully, it is no longer my problem. I will be happy to collect my military retirement pay and milk the system until the inevitable monetary collapse.
I used to think both marriage and military service were generally good things for men. Now I cannot say that of either.
I’d argue that being able to vote implies that women must be subject to Selective Sevice, but that’s just me.
No doubt, I enjoy the prospect of the government telling women what to do:
“No, you can’t go to the mall today, or for the next 2-6 years. No, you can’t choose your own self-expressive clothes and beverages and career posing. You must dress as you are told, behave as you are told, go where you are told and work as you are told. Your body is not your own – it is the property of the United States government.”
However, Republican politicians will not permit the actual use of the draft. This lesson was learned the hard way during the 1960′s when protests against the government and multinational corporations routinely included mass marches of hundreds of thousands of people. Maybe some of you old timers remember. This activity resulted in the shutdown of the Vietnam war, a perfectly good war that put uncounted billions of dollars into the coffers of the corporations that fund our political parties, which is after all the primary function of war in the modern era.
You’ll note that the longest-running wars in American history, the unnecessary war in Iraq and the still-active war in Afganistan, would not have been possible if everyone’s 17 year old boys were in imminent danger of being drafted.
Let alone if everyone’s 17 year old DAUGHTERS were in danger of being drafted.
Ah, so women still don’t get the privilege of Selective Service ? How terrible. I’m sure women will fight against it being compulsory – remember, it’s all about “women’s right to choose”. She will never volunteer to undertake any risk to her own person, she only wants the “right to choose” to be able to combat.
Why the resistance to women in combat? Because if captured they could be *gasp*, raped ??? So men have limbs blown off, entrails all over the place, bleeding and broken , men captured could be – nay- almost certainly will be stripped, chained, beaten, humiliated, tortured, mutilated – and probably raped as well. But that’s all , they’re just men – lowly scumbags that we are, worthless and disposable.
After this experiment runs its course, how many men will have died while bringing tampon supplies up to the front?
Can anyone tell me the additional garbage load from tampon-related issues on all-women submarines? Could a mission fail if some gal flushed her tampon down the toilet instead of following the proper mil-spec procedure?
Wonders never cease, and I have to agree with the above commenter; we all know they are only going for the benefits.
When it is time to deploy to a combat zone the military better pray they don’t have all female squads; and pray to God you are not in a unit being relieved by one! As they will be unable to show up due to attrition rates of women who got pregnant before their deployment date.
After which they out process with their GI Bill, Space A travel as they are in the reserves, health benefits, child support to the poor bastard who is getting deployed (while she never allows him to see his kids he is going to die for); and a whole myriad of other lovely benefits she will get “entitled too.” All while be told thank you ma’am for serving your country. Muahahahaha
When I out processed the end of 2011; I was there for a week. Out of the twenty women who were there; all of them, unit deployed and pregnant. To a woman; no exceptions. The minorities there, save for one Latino who chose to leave, were there for medical, criminal or misdemeanor infractions (read disciplinary/administrative/medical separation).
All of the rest of us who were forcibly removed from service after our race suffered the most death in war were white, and male. The end of the government cannot happen soon enough if it is going to continue on this trend. I have read what is happening to the Boers in South Africa, and we are possibly next. We can all look forward to our descendants living in mud huts with their daughters becoming “daughters of Allah” in the Middle East whether she wanted to, or if we knew about it; or not. Have fun with that.
Make these a-holes a deal; they can all leave on one condition! They take our disingenuous white liberal Bitch Asses with them. If you can disrespect me, racially profile me when I am beating you in basketball and people cheer you in spite of me, get paid to go for mediocre grades in college when I have to take on enormous debt to do the same, steal my wealth I worked hard for through chilimony and house theft through broken promises; besides rape and pillage me while the media turns a blind eye? Then I will wait with my guns for when your EBT cards fail, and act accordingly. I will not save you unless you are capable of getting to my door; and pass my screening process!
I don’t care what any one thinks; and I don’t care if you think I hate anyone. The fact that I have to say it is because I am not a racist/sexist; yet the ease of which you can get away with murder and crime by calling any random white guy a racist or sexist, and then walk?! Is unacceptable to me.
If you can’t handle life with your big boy/big girl pants on; I will damn well ensure that you do. Yet, since I can’t, due to government largess that your lazy lifestyle affords in tax money to Uncle Sam; I am left with few alternatives than to deny you as much taxes as possible, and the benefits of my great intellectual and physical strength and strategy.
To my friends, compatriots, and brothers and sisters who are minorities and women who understand how I feel; good luck to you. I mean that; but I cannot, will not, help you until I have a way to discern you from the rest. You, like me, are completely on your own. I don’t have the faith in you anymore.
Funny, like anything else that would come with female privilege, the responsibility will not happen. It is more likely that one of two things will happen. 1) Selective Service will be ended, because women can not be forced into combat. 2) Selective service will be expanded to include other government roles, so women can be a page in the capital and have served their time. This would also become compulsory for all people over 18 like in many countries. If we ever had a war with compulsory service, then men would still be drafted using the rules that can force any former military back into service if there is a need. A defacto draft by other means, and nearly all men will already have served, meaning the pool is just as full as before.
Don’t forget that one of the major reasons that the Equal Rights Amendment was never ratified was that, when push came to shove, women didn’t want to be treated like men under the law. Selective Service was one of the main laws that women did NOT want to be subject to.
So, if women come under selective service law, will there be pressure to restart the ERA process? And if that happens, don’t forget that another of the reasons that ERA never passed is that women were concerned about losing the advantageous unequal treatment that women get in divorce courts and family law.
Which is worse – An army of girlies, or an army of pensioners? Last week I had a drink with my friendly-acquaintance a Major in the British Army. He has been out to Afghanistan more than once, so I enquired of him when he would next return there. He said that would not happen as being 65 this year, he and the Army were finally parting company this June. I expressed regret that the Army should be so niggardly with skilled and experienced soldiers. He replied that they did not want their soldiers dropping dead from heart-attacks when in combat zones. Knows how to handle himself though as I once relieved to observe when he calmly took outside some mad-axeman type who was trying to start a fight with me in the pub (for looking at his bird or whatever). Even at nearly 65 I would guess he would have little trouble (at 6’2″) in dealing with any female you Americans might be minded to send against him, so it good that we are not fighting you.
Wow. This is the end of the US Military. First allowing gays to be open about it. Now allowing women into combat where everybody knows they will just stand behind a guy and let him protect her and do all the shooting.
I no longer believe that young men will enlist in the military. Don’t be surprise that the numbers become so low that a draft will be necessary. Then again, the US military is declining to the point that few soldiers will be needed to man the few units that are left.
Women are just as good as men
During my recent visit back east I enjoyed the spectacle of female airmen in camouflaged maternity uniforms.
I remember many years ago my wife at the time conducting a human-factors study on female airmen’s nipples in an effort to reduce nipple-chaffing from uniforms that had been designed for men.
What breast-pumping provisions will be made combat scenarios so women can engage in warfare while achieving work/life balance?
Then there’s the health ramifications of married-men soldiers using their anuses for vaginas vis-a-vis mission effectiveness, not to mention the inevitable homosexual love triangles during combat. One wonders if husband-husband teams should be separated during combat operations in case one of them gets blown away in front of their spouse.
I do hope some journalists get blown away while tripping over themselves to get publicity shots of “women in combat” to feed back to an enamored public back home.
And it’s time to life the hair-bun restriction on male soldiers.
Before I retired from the ole’ radio factory, most women wore pants to work.
Any time there was a discussion by men on the news that women should also be registered by Selective Service, the following Monday a lot of women would come to work, wearing dresses, including pink, frilly dresses.
Actually, the all male Selective Service serves a useful purpose for us. Nothing exposes men to the red pill, more than having to register as men, after 18 years of being kicked around as a highly inferior male person.
Hey uncle Elmer we are in the 2000s and women have rights now and it is unfair to men and women they should be forced into the selective services
If I hear one more broad say the word “fair” I’m gonna puke.
I heard on the Micheal Savage show last night about not having women in front line combat. If one is in trouble a group of men will risk their lives to rescue her, a 130 lb woman will have trouble moving an injured 200lb + marine regardless of her strength. Not to mention if she is caught by radical Islamists, she will be raped repeatedly. Maybe they want front line experience so that they can move up the ranks faster. But being female they will move up twice as fast. Pinheadnetta purged a few Generals who didn’t go for women in front line combat and now the door is open.
Considering who our future wars will be against, yes, the captured women will be raped on video and those rape-and-beheading videos will be uploaded so little Timmy and Suzie can see Mom being gang-banged by a pack of jihadis, then her lovely shrieking head sliced off with a kitchen knife.
Or perhaps she’ll luck out and be sold as a concubine, as is instructed by the Koran and recently espoused by the wife of a Parliament minister in Kuwait.
Ah, sweet equality! Thank Heaven for the Democrats to see that women are treated the way they should be.
Here’s a challenge:
Close your eyes and try to imagine the first 30 minutes of Saving Private Ryan, except everyone is female…but the enemy.
Anybody else feel that we men are simply a rearguard of gracelessly ageing dinosaurs romancing an age that is so long gone by now ?
We are not going to grumble Rome back into existence, specially as the old chauvinism’s have been extinct for some time now alongside male importance.
I say we adopt Sun Szu’s warrior tactic of nonchalant withdrawal and selective non-participance. At least for the duration of the mass man destruction events that are demeaning us.
Although I was never drafted, because I got a deferment for having no father in my household, I still have my original Selective Service Registration card and one of my Classification Cards.
Males were required to register with SS within (I believe) 30 days of their 18th birthday. Right after that, SS would send a Classification Card indicating were one’s status was relating to conscription.
eg- 1A =pack your bags
3A= family hardship (me)
4F=physical/ mental disability…………………….
I was always classified as 3-A. Every year the Board would re-look at us for possible changes in classifications. Of course we all used to sweat it out when that time of the year came around. It was during the Viet Nam war and we would have done a ” lot ” not to go to the “meat grinder”. We lost two guys from my home county. One close friend of mine was drafted at age 18 and his fiance’ married another man who my friend knew. He was never the same after that, the guy really loved her. He was a guy who always had people around him because they liked and respected. He could have gone very far in life, he was talented, generous and humble. He passed a few years ago a lonely man after a life of drugs and alcohol.
One year the Board erroneously classified me as a clergyman (4A). I didn’t bring the error to their attention fast enough, so they got pissed off and reclassified me 1A (pack your bags). I objected and they gave me back my old classification.
My Registration Card is from August 1964 and the Classification Card (1A) is from July 1968. If I knew how to scan the cards, with name blocked, I’d send them to be published at The Spearhead. It might be an interesting bit of history for men. LOL
Mohammed Ali had no father and was classified as “good enough to go” even if not as a full veritable 1A.
And what has your country done for YOU lately eh ?
If something feminists has tough us is that you can have rights and opportunity without responsibility and duty, we already do this when women are screwing around with superiors and then cry rape.
IS amazing how people can see this as equality and forget that women have a child-like physical requirements.
The issue you highlight- that is that women will not be required to register for the draft- is part of a broader debate which has been simmering in the U.S. That is: when there’s a war, who should have to go? Right now, we have the answer- it’s the poor, uneducated men (many of whom come from minority groups).
A long time ago, I heard an interview with Vesse Ventura (former special forces solider- one before the SEALs- and former Minnesota governor). He argued that the draft should be reinstated and that EVERYONE who is registered and of age should be required to go to war. He felt it would cause a “real debate” about what “American interests” were at stake in foreign lands. Given the number of pointless “military adventures” the U.S. has taken recently, I agree with him.
What needs to happen is- now that everything is equal- men AND WOMEN should be required to register for the draft. And for the women who fail to register, they should lose college loan eligibility (as men do) and be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law (as men should be when they fail to register). That’s equality- and it’s what the women got when they were declare “eligible” for combat duty…
Dames :
Can’t live with ‘em, can’t live without ‘em *
Can’t fight ‘em, can’t fight without ‘em
* can’t live without ‘em [ An old-fashioned expression ] Please disregard if you think it’s passe.
As a CIB awarded Army infantryman (11Bravo) I can honestly say this is ridicoulous. I’m not toting my award to boast, but to prove the validity of my claims.
Women cannot do this job. Being an infantrymen in combat is not at all like just being in a firefight, going on patrols, or removing IED’s.
Being in a firefight just means returning fire, manuevering and communicating as to not get killed. close, but it’s not what 11B’s do. Going on patrols is just checking around, handing out MRE’s and playing with kids mixed in with an occasional firefight, close but it’s not what we do. Clearing IED’s is very dangerous and can be done by most people with the smarts, close but not what we do.
Being an infantrymen means, seeking out and closing with the enemy with the intent to utterly destroy him, take his land, and hold it for reinforcements. You really can’t understand the difference until you’ve done it… and this is just a huge, huge mistake all around.
My erstwhile bretheren talk like we’re still in the midst of trench warfare. Now that war is essentially asymetrical, it’s finally safe enough for women to be in combat, such that any combat will ever even exist…aside from a few special ops skirmishes.
This has EVERYTHING to do with making it easier for women to be promoted up the ranks (instead of men). There will now be scores of dedicated and worthy men passed over for promotion in favor of women. That was the idea behind it. Women will not be in combat because combat no longer exists. We’ve got drones that can see you scratch your nose from 29,000 feet and hit targets with a hellfire missle within a 2 foot by 2 foot window. This is all about a gender egalitarian military culture. This is all about women and power.
War as we know it is terrorism vs. precision strikes, assuming Iran and North Korea keep their fingers off the launch buttons. Then it’s nuclear holocaust time, and they’re wiped off the map…assuming Russia and/or China doesn’t take sides against the west.
The American infantry is an anachronism, tanks, jet fighters, bombers, etc., all gone. The new warrior is in exclusive Delta Force Units and Seal Teams – which women will never be a part of. “Combat roles” for women is all about the shattering the glass ceiling for women to ascend in the ranks. It means nothing else, other than if you’re a man and you’re up against a woman for promotion – she will get position.
Warfare is bloody,messy business. Frontline infrantry is actually the bloodiest of them all. Indian army does not involvement women in any frontline combat operation- be it full scale war, or tedious COIN operations. I used to think that they were sexist- back in my pre red pill days. But stories of the theatres of operation of our army made me change my mind. Indian army operates in the siachen glacier,dubbed the highest battlefield in the world situated at an altitude of atleast 6000 metres. It is so cold and high that even local people vacate these heights during winter- mercury goes down as low as -60° celcius, while summer months offer a comfortable -15°celcius. Can anyone show me women who will willingly service at these heights with reasonable levels of fitness and competence? I am willing to be dazzled. The funny thing is , India does not have the drafting system , every soldier is a volunteer- coming from their own free will.
@ geographybeefinalisthimself
The purpose of the draft is so young stupid boys can die in wars to enrich older wealthy men.
You cannot find one war in which the wealthy did not became more wealthy.
Those who support the draft, such as you, should expelled from the United States of America for cowardice, stupidity and fascism.
@ Bob Wallace
1) I do not favor the draft.
2) If citizenship is going to come with potentially lethal responsibilities, every warm body with a pulse able to perform said responsibilities should be required to register.
3) FEMINISTS are the ones who fight against mandatory female Selective (dis)Service registration more than men’s rights’ activists.
4) If you read my comment carefully, you would notice that I was so INFURIATED by my sister’s remark that I refused to attend her wedding. If I supported the draft, I would have had no qualms about going.
and last, but not least,
5) I’m CRITICIZING the fact that the penalty for non-registration of 5 years in prison and a $250,000 fine are not even posted on the SSS website, but apparently the website posts happy smiling young men.
“Women are just as good as men”
No evidence is needed. Of course by you “Anonymous” just stating that, it makes it true.
Men have been breed for battle over thousands of years of evolution. Men are physically faster, stronger, etc. Men have built everything (including military weapons) you see today.
No. I don’t believe with members of the spearhead that women should be drafted. But then again, I believe in the differences between the sexes, and to treat them equally is high stupidity.
That means combat roles should specifically be for men. Capability doesn’t equal efficiency. Children can be soldiers as well but they are less suited for it due to a myriad of issues.
The country is already in decline and with a society who cares about “diversity” of its military rather the brutal efficiency, is a society with a further weaker military. Enemy soldiers don’t give a damn about whether the soldier is a male or female (unless for raping women).
You are just an egalitarian who wants to make everyone the same. Go fuck your self.
Wow, you people are so dumb.
Now that women will be on the front lines, they can just STOP any and all wars right there on the spot..
The first dude that shoots at Shaniqua is gonna get an earful of “HEY YOU MOTHERFUCKER!!! You don’t EVER under any circumstances EVER HIT (or shoot) A WOMAN!!”
oh, i’m sorry, did you think it would be WHITE women on the front lines? Oh HELL no, Becky & Samantha will go to college and become commanders and generals!
For the white women, this is the fast track to presidency! For the minorities, its a way to secure even MORE welfare before they shit out 3 kids.
See, they will join up, and secure whatever awesome bennies the military will give them for being pioneers. Then after a few years, they will get knocked up by a military man and take his $$$ (already happening, but they dont wait years). The female then gets honorably discharged and the penis gets to serve out his own term AND hers as well, all the while paying support and giving up 1/2 his pension.
Should the man die, the Heifer then gets his social security as well as all the awesome death benefits. the benefits will only trigger if a man dies, not a woman, this way, men don’t just start shooting bitches.
Right now, Shaniqua’s only option is a 6 years of college for a bullshit degree in African studies or 3 kids from a baby daddy that’s got 3 drug charges coming up (option 1 leads directly to option 2). BUT, if the govt can get working military men to knock up these slags, well, then the MEN have to pay directly (as well as indirectly) and the men will have to stay on serving on the front lines to keep the support $$ flowing.
Seriously, if women are in combat.. can we start punching them in the tits ?? its legit.. right? Might even be funny, tit shots are pretty funny.. i saw it in a movie.. ONCE.
They will not fight in a battlefield like a man. I am sure they will make a kind of “Affirmative act” for battlefield.
The selective service and draft arguments are moot.
There will never again be a draft in the USA because soldiers on battlefields no longer exist. Military strength is no longer measured in numbers of soldiers, it’s measured in technological capability.
The new war is Terrorism against you’re nation’s civilians, wherever in the world they might be. You root the Jihadists out and kill them from above…they train more replacement recruits, and so on.
Women in combat is a ridiculous idea – it will get more men killed because they are incompetent at doing their job when it comes to following orders, or having the physical strength to actually do what is required.
Watch the requirements for what has to be done deteriorate, like it did for firemen and policemen. One example, before it was legislated that women must be allowed into Fire Departments, a recruit had to be able to carry a 200 lbs man down a ladder by throwing him over your shoulder – now the requirement is to be able to drag a 200 lbs man down the steps by his feet (they originally had by the arms and found that most women were too weak to even do that…) No mention is made of the resulting fractured skulls from this approach…
Of course, you won’t hear about the resulting increase in deaths since the media will come up with ways to ignore it…
There already is affirmative action on the battlefield. The equipment fielded now has been designed for the ‘small statured’ soldiers, at the expense of the ‘large statured’ soldiers.
So if your body armour only covers a small portion of your chest – too bad. If the length of pull on your rifle is too short – too bad. Rations only contain 2000 calories instead of your normal 2500 – too bad.
What about Anti-Drone Drones? Do they exist yet? If not, why not? Men have always dominated the model airplane field. If they want, we could name the Anti Drone Drone with female names.
@Mickey T
“because I got a deferment for having no father in my household,”
HAH, this will be first to change. “father in the household” will become “father’s* money in the household”. Once again, all men will be eligible!
And if older gents really are more capable fighers than young women, would we see Deadbeat Dads(tm) being drafted because they couldn’t pay the alimony greater than their untaxed income? Hell, you could be fighting on the front lines alongside your own son (who looks remarkably like the mailman), that you’re currently paying child support for.
*Alimony/child support by father or state. Actual father not required. Terms and conditions not required. Batteries sold separately.
Keyster,
I like you, but you don’t know shit about the current state of military necessity. Infantry is the ONLY part of the military that actually matters. The rest of the military only serves to lessen the stress and damage on the infantry, but if we had enough poor bastards, we could run an entire war with only infantry (some would have to work the supply lines). However, we would never, ever, EVER win any conflict without infantry on the ground regardless of how many missiles or drones we used. Also, you appear to be unaware of the role that the infantry has been playing for the last 9 years in Afghanistan and Iraq. The simple-minded dolts of the mainstream government media may only write stories about drone strikes, SEAL raids and the like, but infantry action comprises the majority of our military effort, and it will always be thus.
That said, I believe the opening of the US military to gays and women is not intended to enhance the fighting capability of the military – that BS is for the low-information and low IQ voting public. It is specifically to stock the US military with people who are more amenable to following unconstitutional orders and killing fellow Americans (civilians). In other words, to turn the US military into a force that will be used against its own people once Lord Obama decides to go full retard.
P.S. I’m a former grunt in the US Army – been to Iraq.
Well, NPR just confirmed what was at stake here.
“Women now have access to over 230,000 jobs…”
When are men gonna register to give birth?
If by Jihadists you mean men who are sick of seeing the foreigners’ armored patrols run down animals and old people and the foreigners’ carelessly launched bombs and missiles mutilate and maim their brothers, sisters and children then I agree with you.
It’s free, swipe yo’ EBT. Yo.
Well, that was interesting. LOL.
Men need to *stop* joining the military. Any military that is so obviously unserious about its true purpose, should not be where a man risks is life and future.
The only reason women want to be in the military is for the freebies. Defense spending is over $600B/year, and women are hardwired to go to where money is being expended.
Their interest in the military is limited to that. Be where the money is being spent.
I think this is the greatest day ever. The draft is neccesary for a nation to have to not have one is irresponsible reguardless what the citizens think.
The last excuse for female priviledge was the combat exclusion law. That is now gone. VAWA gone, females exempt from the draft gone, female physical requirements and male physical requirements gone. The pussy pass, no excuse for it.
Men I say today is the day Leon Panetta killed feminism. Stop being so romantic about a country that hates you. Hell I was a marine for 13 years and I was an air winger and know women aren’t up to the job but that is not the point. If you are that concerned about your country remember the 2nd amendment own a rifle, and hand gun and keep a stock of ammo and be skilled in there use. You have now served your country. Trust in knowing you will be the cause of a huge headache for any one trying to take over and that includes the US government.
Know what know and think about how much more difficult it will be to use this weakened military force on the american people (you).
Now think about all of the female priviledge that is now null and void.
Anon Age 70,
Nothing exposes men to the red pill, more than having to register as men, after 18 years of being kicked around as a highly inferior male person.
If that were the case, there would be far more red-pillers than there are now.
A large portion of men don’t have the ability to resist themselves being made expendable. They get brainwashed into their own expendability very naturally.
Doc,
Women in combat is a ridiculous idea – it will get more men killed because they are incompetent at doing their job when it comes to following orders, or having the physical strength to actually do what is required.
That is right. That is why more men should be smart enough to know better than to join the military in this day and age.
TFH
The next few years are going to be fun
Doesn’t this completely annihilate the Violence Against Women Act?
Opus January 24, 2013 at 07:42
“Which is worse – An army of girlies, or an army of pensioners? “
Don’t panic! Don’t panic!!
They don’t like it up ‘em!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhWlAKdlQp4
Being old enough that I hit that ‘golden window’ between Vietnam and and mandatory ‘selective service’ requirements many here may feel I have no status to speak. I was too young to influence the legislation at the time, but young enough to avoid it’s entanglements.
Having three son’s though, I think entitles me to have an opinion on the topic. I think if women want equality – ‘let them have it good and hard’. Step up to the plate girrrrlz, ‘cowgirl up’ you get to ride on top – enjoy your equality. No reason my son(s) should submit while you sit at home and financially rape them.
In my opinion, women should be required to sign up for selective service just as my son’s are -and they should be half of the body bags shipped home.
Equality Baby – now swallow and keep your pie hole shut . . .
to ” a guy”
Don’t for get about us 19D’s either.
We are out there humping a ruck in front of you guys. 
They should stop callings us CAV scouts. I walked my butt of and never saw a horse or even a bradley. :_)) And pooping in sacks when in a spider hole. In my younger days at campbell a supply unit billet was next to us. It was a brothel during the weekends. Those women screwed everything. One of your guys got the “pleasure” of being a .50BMG shooter, I’d like to see a female try to hump that thing and it’s ammo and a spare M4 for point duty. Ain’t happening.. Also, no one mentions the double standard of the easier PT test for women. If I was still active/reserve I would sue over favorable treatment for women.
Just wait.
Some female soldier will get captured by a foreign enemy, then be either released or liberated a year later.
She’ll be eight or nine months pregnant. The media will have a field day emoting about her horrible plight.
Oprah will no doubt want her and her lil’ Jihadi-spawn to appear on TV on an hour-long special to “honor her heroic sacrifice”.
Free 100%-guaranteed thug DNA, a child delivered under circumstances where the government will pay for it, plus an automatic “hardship” discharge. Won’t that be a great way to motivate our young women to sign up?
Then it will be discovered that it was voluntary, or as voluntary as it could be for a POW under armed guard.
Some smart author will write a movie script about the poor innocent little infantry girl who just couldn’t resist the raw, masculine passion of her captor. At least a Lifetime movie-of-the-week, maybe even a “major motion picture”.
The femmies will have fun explaining this. They’ll need to spin the story faster than a pulsar to get the MSM to explain her “Stockholm syndrome” and “post-traumatic stress disorder” to the public.
Meanwhile, older and wiser cultures will laugh at us and say, “What did you expect would happen?”
I read an article in New York Times not long ago, which I have been looking for but can’t find, which claimed in the headline that women built a community center in Afghanistan in “record time.” Later in the article it was admitted that the men had never been timed.
The article also described the building project as serving in combat, even though what they were building was a place where children would soon be playing, not exactly the setting where real combat is actually had.
Women will be getting promotions and pay as if they served in combat, but they will not actually be serving in anything which can be accurately described as “combat.”
C’mon, Feminists and left/liberals, it’s gender equality you’ve always said you wanted… have your girls sign up today, be the first one on your block to have your daughter come home in a box!
Alan B: “See, they will join up, and secure whatever awesome bennies the military will give them for being pioneers. Then after a few years, they will get knocked up by a military man and take his $$$ (already happening, but they dont wait years). The female then gets honorably discharged and the penis gets to serve out his own term AND hers as well, all the while paying support and giving up 1/2 his pension.
Should the man die, the Heifer then gets his social security as well as all the awesome death benefits. the benefits will only trigger if a man dies, not a woman, this way, men don’t just start shooting bitches.”
… hadn’t thought it all the through like you have – what you write makes a lot of sense. Women naturally follow the money, are self absorbed and have not problem disposing of men, therefore, the military is a perfect host. I just wonder how men are going to do next considering what appears to be all avenues of ‘success’ infiltrated by the feminine. Sports NFL, NBA, MLB… now that the military is feminized, sports might be next to break down and incorporate the womenz… I predict Lance will lead the way towards feminizing that last of the all male arenas.
a guy: ” the opening of the US military to gays and women is not intended to enhance the fighting capability of the military – that BS is for the low-information and low IQ voting public. It is specifically to stock the US military with people who are more amenable to following unconstitutional orders and killing fellow Americans (civilians). In other words, to turn the US military into a force that will be used against its own people once Lord Obama decides to go full retard.”
I have been wondering how, when and where the lezboes (not if or why) would begin their real agenda to eliminate the ‘inferior’ men. MOre pussy for them if us predatory, worthless, inferior men were out of the picture. “It’s Evolution Baby”. White men to start with, but then the ‘new jew’ will be any heterosexual w/penis and will be exterminated wherever and whenever. After all it’s the men’s fault and they deserve what they get… militarily trained and equipped lezboes turned loose on their own neighborhoods and cities won’t have any problem blowing away anyone who even remotely resembles a man.
Back in the days of Vietnam, soldiers had two options. If they were drafted, they would spend two years in the military with one being in Nam and the other stateside. If they enlisted they could avoid combat but they would have to sign up for three years, most of that probably in Europe. They might end up having to do the same thing again if they ever go to the draft. If the ladies want to avoid combat they can spend three years cleaning bed bans in public funded senior centers. We are going to need the help.
This is another step of female desire trumping male nature becoming the law of the land.
They use our libido to get what makes life easier and virtually without responsibility. They rely on it and take it for granted as the sun will always be in the sky. But when they want more of the unearned fruits, they expect us to just turn it off. Or, they expect that our libido will make their “combat” duty easier as with everything else they get credit for accomplishing. Everywhere we look we see societal and governmental allowances for the nature of women, but we would be hard pressed to find much of the same for men.
So, now men are expected to go off to war and face two enemies, one they’re trained to kill, and one they’re trained to protect, and for those men who return, they’re expected to come back as heroes. Too much of a burden is being placed on men, we’re reaching critical mass and they have no clue.
Why all this talk about the “draft”? With the current softness of Western culture, and with the undeniable military superiority currently enjoyed by the US and the West; short of WWIII with the middle east, China and Russia, or the EU vs the US [it's a possibility] the draft will never become a real factor.
The US military is currently a 100% all voluntary force and by all measure far superior to any conscript or drafted military that ever existence…well at least before they let the girls in the sandbox.
And as an actively serving member (and Spearhead lurker) I’m tired of the old: “the enlisted ranks of the military are filled with the poor” meme. These days that’s just not true. Why? Because modern American poor are of the entitlement mindset. The idea of EARNING their handout is repulsive to them. As it stands, the military demands far too much for your average Citizen; let alone one of the many ‘comfortably poor’ to attract them to a life of honorable servitude.
If anything, the enlisted ranks are over flowing with a majority of Middle American, military careerist.
It will never happen. I just don’t see it.
They’ll end the Selective Service before registering women.
Also, you appear to be unaware of the role that the infantry has been playing for the last 9 years in Afghanistan and Iraq.
I posit that those wars are the last of an era in warfare technique. Robert Gates was the first to mention this and Panetta agrees as well. Hagel will start the actual cutting process. The USA will never engage in anything but asymetrical warfare again. There will never again be battalions of soldiers marching into battle. Perhaps platoons involved in urban skirmishes in global hotspots, but Afghanistan and Iraq like wars, as unbloody as they were will not be engaged in.
We’re approaching a $20,000,000,000,000 debt and ObamaCare hasn’t even kicked in yet. And we don’t need foreign oil anymore.
No more Team America World Police for you. Is your country being invaded? Sorry ’bout that. We’ll send a couple drones.
“Is your country being invaded?”
Afghanistan and Iraq were invaded by the US. Is not like they were invaded by some other country and the US came to help. It was invaded by the US. Nobody wants the US as the world police, only dictatorships like Saudi Arabia and Israel are happy to have the US as the world police.
One problem that has gotten a little bit of attention – albeit generally mocking – is the idea that personal modesty is frequently not possible in a combat environment. I was talking to a colleague of mine yesterday and he mentioned having to take a crap off the back of a moving tank – the column is simply NOT going to stop and wait for princess to find the ladies room.
Ask any military guy here and he’ll say the same: there have been times when my ability to exercise a “normal” degree of personal modesty has been, shall we say, compromised. I didn’t particularly like voiding my bowels in some of the places where I had to do so, but that’s life in uniform.
So far, so good (or not). But with the military’s hypersensitivity to anything that even hints at “sexual harassment,” this is a minefield for men. Lots of civilians think there’s some sort of “rape culture” in the military – the truth is exactly the opposite: the brass is absolutely obsessed with stamping out “misogyny” (mostly imaginary).
We already duplicate a lot of facilities and capabilities to accommodate the women in the positions they occupy now – at enormous cost. It will simply not be possible to cater to female sensibilities much more than we already do. And when little Susie Soldierette has to strip down in front of the other troops she had better not cry “sexual harassment” because it made her “uncomfortable.”
And, no, Private, you may not go off by yourself to change your tampon. And no, making you do it where everyone can see you is not sexual harassment. Likewise, if the men whip out in front of you they are not committing a sex crime. If you want to be treated like a prim Victorian Lady then you don’t belong in a combat unit.
That’s a real problem being largely under-examined – if you are going to put men and women in places where personal modesty is impractical and potentially lethal, you must also do away with the hyper-Puritanistic mindset that defines anything that makes a female uncomfortable as “sexual harassment.”
Feminist theory is about to collide with feminist practice.
Lyn, there is an op-ed in the WSJ that talks about what you described.
Nothing fair about the “fairer sex” — it’s all “what about MEEEEE?”. Send the liberrhoidz to the front lines first! No Patsy Pass!
Thanks for the head’s-up, Titanium. I caught part of a conversation on CNN this morning about that op-ed: now I know what it was about.
It is the nexus between lack of privacy and hyper-sensitivity with regard to women’s allegations of sexual harassment that troubles me here. You know the first time some chicks have to undress in front of people in their unit (which will include icky beta-males) they’re going to go on MSNBC and tell everyone about how female combat “soldiers” were treated as sex objects.
The push-button wars of the future remain stubbornly in the future. War is ugly, dirty, and sometimes dehumanizing, and is not going to change any time soon. It can also involve things that would be considered heinously degrading in a civilian context. Corporate rules that allow a woman to cry “harassment” if the “wrong” guy looks at the cleavage she’s flashing won’t work when everyone has to drop trou over the same latrine trench.
If women in combat are in, then neo-Victorian ideas about sexual harassment have to go out.
People may see you naked, ladies. You lost the right to complain about it.
Whitehouse.gov petition. Time to put some A in MRA:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/require-women-register-selective-service-age-18-their-male-counterparts/95pfTq6v
@ Antifeminist One
I signed the petition. Unfortunately, it needs 0ver 99,000 more signatures by February 23, 2013.
I’m just responding to the post. I haven’t read the comments.
Pregnancy, and therefore being unfit for fulfilling a combat duty assignment, ought to be a crime in the military like shooting oneself in the foot or other such things. The offender should serve a *minimum* of a year in prison, giving the child into other custody upon delivery.
Until that is true, they aren’t equal and they aren’t soldiers.
As someone who has also served in an infantry battalion, I can assure you that most women cannot handle the physical demands that come with being a combat soldier. There is a distinct difference between being in a combat situation by chance and actually being a member of a fireteam. For starters, as an infantryman, you are far more likely to be engaged by the enemy than someone whose job for the day is to tag along. So it bothers me when I read things about women being capable to hold their own just because a few of them just happened to be caught in the middle of a firefight. I’m willing to bet that most of the women who find themselves in these situations are not looking for trouble. No. It’s the other way around.
I can recall one particular mission where we ran non-stop going door to door for several hours in 100+ degree weather while wearing full gear trying to find “militants” in Iraq. Almost everyone, including myself were exhausted but we had to keep going until we were done. The next morning, we did the same thing all over again. I was fortunate to come home without injury. Many combat troops who served during my deployments were not so lucky. They are the ones who make up the vast majority of deaths and injuries in Iraq and Afghanistan. Not the women in support units.
But if they want to serve, let them. Create an all female infantry battalion and hold them to the same standards as the men. It’s the only way this will work.
In comment after comment, I see some sort of pipe dream about women taking responsibility. That’s fantasy, we are in a world of ever advancing female empowerment with proportionate diminishing female responsibility. Right, even less than they already don’t have.
Ecclesiates,
They’ll punish the man who impregnated her, give her an abortion if she choose, give her paid leave, pay for the delivery of the baby if she chooses not to abort, and if she decides to keep the baby, she and the child will be supported at least until the child is 18 years of age. All at taxpayer expense.
There’s more to it, of course, than mere physical strength. A huge part of operating in stressful combat situations is being able to turn off your brain and focus on the task at hand, narrow everything down to the short-term and fight your way through the fatigue. Women process stress immediately, and most lack the psychological mechanism (or any kind of mental training) that allows them to deal with it later.
Because U,S, Supremce Court upheld Congress authority to require men but not women to register for military draft. the the Supreme Court is unlikely to revisit the isue
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rostker_v._Goldberg
Here’s the petition: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/require-american-women-register-selective-service/Q5FR42WJ
This should be an interesting development over the next few years.
As Anon pointed out earlier, the ERA movement died a painful death years ago when women realized that equal rights would also mean being required to fill out the same draft card from Selective Services that we did on our 18th birthdays. Could you imagine the look on Betty Friedan’s face if she had gotten one of those in the mailbox? Every newscast in America would lead off with the horrors of war if half the caskets being flown back home were female; nowadays, we only hear about those who died if they lived or attended school in the watching area of the telecast.
We all know how this is going to play out and its as predicable as a Hulk Hogan match from 1987…
The folks in charge will pretend that the Selective Service doesn’t exist while millions of guys are still required at gunpoint to fill those cards out. The women who enlist will continue to do so for the purposes of receiving the benefits the military provide, only to get knocked up at the first whisper of being put in a compromising position (like being handed a rifle or told to extract enemy mines) and be declared as unfit for duties while receiving full benefits back home. Those who stay in combative units will be deemed as heroes upon their return. Oprah, Dr. Phil, and Wendy Williams will have a warm couch and a box of Kleenex waiting for them to sit down and give the exclusive on how hard it was to be in battle, how they had to (egads) change clothes with the men because there was no time to build a separate barracks for all two of them to do so, and how courageous they were despite not having to fire a single shot because there were a half-dozen guys at the ready to protect them from harm (well, that tiny detail might not get mentioned in the interview).
Gotta love it…
What a surprise! Leftists want to draft women as well as men. They are after all avowed enemies of individual liberty seeking to turn all of us into serfs. There is absolutely NO excuse for military concription except in time of genuine congressionally declared WAR, none whatever! Moreover our volunteer professional military is dong a GREAT JOB. Most generals and admirals want no sullen unmotivated conscripts.
But liberals have a much larger agenda. They really want to enslave ALL young people via “national service.;” an ill defined program designed to force the young, against thier will, to do “good things” as defined by liberals for “society.” Rahm Emmanuel, former chief to staff to comrade Obama was a huge exponent of this and it is still part of the red White House’s hidden agenda.
Makes sense from a leftist point of view. You can’t tax youth into oblivion, they don’t make much, so make ‘em slaves to “society” instead performing “socially usefull” tasks. Moreover, The current corrupt Chicago mayor thought such a period of involuntary servitude would better attune the young to accept the enslavement of socialism.
One only wishes that our Commisars in Washington had campaigned on this issue. Maybe then the idiot twenty and thirty somethings would not have voted for red Obama.
You talk about the Selective Service like it is a privilege, but most men (that I talk to) consider it a chore. And for the fact that women (can’t handle it) they’ve been doing fine so far, so obviously they can handle it. Also, women platoons on average have much better aim. No bad habits. Women can serve as a police person and some tests are harder than than what I’ve heard in the military.
I’m a male and I think women should be required, my only fear is that women will want the choice of doing it, not being forced to.