Big Oil Terrorizes North Dakota with Young Men

by W.F. Price on January 17, 2013

For my entire life, I’ve heard about the evils of Big Oil, that industry that maliciously controls the world by forcing us all to drive cars, fly, use electricity and make things in factories instead of walking, riding animals, chopping wood and paying a lot of money for things like iron tools. If it weren’t for Big Oil, I’m sure lefties in our major urban centers would all be content to give up the modern lifestyle and return to the family farm to shovel manure for the rest of their lives, but sadly they have been deprived of that opportunity.

But now we have another dastardly problem brought about by Big Oil — it is causing large numbers of young men to congregate in places like North Dakota, Wyoming and Montana. it is also giving them access to… Money! Oh, the horror!

These young men are interested in women, and sometimes try to interact with them. An advertisement featuring local Indian lasses being “leered” at by young men prompted the good people of our urban centers to react with shock and indignation. What savagery will the oil industry afflict us with next?

In all seriousness, it’s disheartening to see that ordinary young American men have come to be seen as a “problem.” Even more so that even the productive, hard-working ones are viewed with fear and suspicion. Of course there will be more problems when there are more young men, but the same goes for any other large group of people. I could easily write an article about the consequences of a sudden influx of young women. The title could go something like this: “New University Branch Campus Means More Young Women — And More Gonorrhea,” and it would be totally accurate. But people wouldn’t think it was a very nice or fair article. However, they recoil in fear when we talk about “young men.” What a terrible problem these young men must be for society. Why, we’d all be better off with a nation of old people, babies and women. As soon as the boys hit puberty, they are a menace until enfeebled with age.

We live in a very strange society that neither appreciates nor respects its young men, who are our future. They are held down in school, in government and even in ordinary corporate jobs to make way for women, then they are blamed for being slackers. When they go out and bust their ass to make a living, they are a “problem.” The only young men who get any positive attention are the few wealthy entrepreneurs like Mark Zuckerberg and the tiny proportion of them who are professional athletes. Ordinary, hard-working young American men are just a “problem.”

It’s pretty sick when you think about it. As I get older, I appreciate young men more and more. When I’m old and weak, I hope there are some of them around to lend a hand. I want them raising the next generation, making my country wealthy with their energy and creativity, and protecting our communities. I certainly know I won’t be able to count on young women to do a damn thing for me at that point.

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DCM January 17, 2013 at 02:44

Making prostitution legal would go a long way to solving the problems “caused” by young men.

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Jim January 17, 2013 at 03:11

When I’m old and weak, I hope there are some of them around to lend a hand. I want them raising the next generation, making my country wealthy with their energy and creativity, and protecting our communities.
Don’t count me in, I am 23 and frustrated. If this world wants to go up in flames I certainly won’t try to stop it. Why should I the women in my age are like men, except with female genitals and the younger generation of girls I see growing up is even worse. Honestly I hope this world breaks someday and I am there to see it, or better to rebuild it in a better way. I have no desire left to do anything. Remove all the distractions around us and you see how pointless our lifes really have become. I don’t care for old people, they didn’t stop this world from becoming a mad house, so why should I do anything for them. Sorry for this hatepost, but I just cant take much more.

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geographybeefinalisthimself January 17, 2013 at 03:43

I want them raising the next generation, making my country wealthy with their energy and creativity, and protecting our communities.

About protecting our communities, why bother to protect a community that demonized you in your youth? If they can stop demonizing you now (a very big if), they could have stopped demonizing you 25 years ago.

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nigeles175d January 17, 2013 at 03:49

As to your last sentence, as an older man, I fear the young women who work in elderly “care” homes, should I ever end up there paying them for my “care”.

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aditya_x January 17, 2013 at 05:15

Fraking is one of the most groundbreaking technologies of our times, that guarantees energy security of humanity. Unless portable thorium based reactors, or realistic fusion reactors come out, this is only way to provide energy for transportation (solar energy till now have horrifically low conversion efficiency, about 8 to 10 %). This type of behavior from leftist politicians in shocking, but sadly quite common. Women, especially feminists, don’t care about technology, or the looming future , even in their own interests. Sad, but quite expected.

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meistergedanken January 17, 2013 at 05:47

Young men are perceived by feminists, liberals and statists as a liability to society because they are not yet in bondage to the state. The lack of dependency, and the initiative and autonomy these young men exercise conflicts with their insatiable need for control.

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Anonymous age 70 January 17, 2013 at 06:22

>>As soon as the boys hit puberty, they are a menace until enfeebled with age.

Um, didn’t you know all older men are pedophile rapists?

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AAB January 17, 2013 at 06:23

>>> ordinary young American men have come to be seen as a “problem.” Even more so that even the productive, hard-working ones are viewed with fear and suspicion.<<<

That's the way that all young men are portayed in most Anglophonic countries: as something negative. And the negative portryals are in total contradistinction to one another. Men are portrayed as:
- both pathetically weak (nerds and geeks) and violently psychopathic (Holmes, Lanza);
- both sexual predators (potential rapists) and sexual inompetants (the 40-year old virgin);
- both conniving/scheming (CEOs of multi-national corporations) and morons (Homer Simpson);

Yet, as you say, despite all of this hatred directed at them, women expect men to carry on working/slaving away regardless. It just shows a basic lack of respect that seems part and parcel of 'civilized' i.e. citified world, and may be why cities and urban cultures generally show little respect for the natural world.

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keyster January 17, 2013 at 07:43

Urbanized young men are so ridden with guilt from years of “social justice” indocrination that they hardly make themselves visible. Most of the young men I meet are hopelessly “OWS” types, that believe THEY ARE the problem and seek to correct it.

I asked one a few days ago to show me the empirical evidence that fracking is harming our environment. He said “It’s out there.” I said where, because I can’t seem to find it. But I guess if Matt Damon says its a problem it must be so, ’cause he’s like a really smart Hollywood actor.

Young white men have been fracking the earth, women and “people of color” for millenia. It must be stopped!

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El Bastardo January 17, 2013 at 07:49

I wonder what will happen when they just totally quit? Also, when shaming them completely fails with all young men?

This is proof positive that it is hilarious the Bible calls us sheep. Because sheep are insanely stupid creatures. They must be led, fed, and essentially told what to do. The parallel with your average American is frightening. It is not just about young men.

I remember an actual local news broadcast which discussed a disease that killed only two people who were related in the middle of friggin Africa. I live in the Midwest. Essentially, they claimed that it was “NOT” contagious, purely genetic, and the two “carriers” (read human beings, one was male) had died. They lamented about the woman only.

They then went on to say that I should stay tuned to find out how I could get a “kit” that would save me if the contagion reached over here by me?

I heard they actually sold kits. I only wish I could finds a you tube video of it to show you this actually happened; I am too smart to make this crap up.

The fact that feminism has so permeated our culture that we vilify the most noble, productive, and kind heated among us is a shaming indictment of our whole society. No wonder people are starting to go more to China; it can’t be only the manufacturing facilities. It must also be because people see our new draconian nature; and figure democratic-communists “can’t be all that bad, can they?”!

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domestic discipline democrat January 17, 2013 at 07:57

We get a lot of lectures in the mainstream corporate press about how unemployment is the fault of the worker; a lazy pigheaded lout who refuses to retrain, uproot, and take any job anywhere at any wage.

So it’s annoying to see them whining about a critical mass of footloose young oil field roustabouts and truck drivers. Following the boom is as American as apple pie.

Many of these young fellows are no doubt enduring sub optimal conditions, sleeping in trailers, doubling up in motel rooms, in order to send their surplus wages back to their wives and children.

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Norm January 17, 2013 at 08:20

I was listening to the end of the Mark Levin show yesterday and there was a spot where he mentioned about a program about fracking on AccessTV.
It will be on sometime next week, so check their website. It exposes the media bias against it. Of course readers here know to “read between the lines” also. Seems anything that makes the west energy dependent is demonised. I heard that there may be Saudi money against fracking in the Bakken oil fields. I guess the establishment doesn’t want young men having work where most women wouldn’t be capable of doing.

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keyster January 17, 2013 at 08:27

Um, didn’t you know all older men are pedophile rapists?

Yes, and as a friendly reminder – if you happen to be an older gentlemen out and about, make sure you’re accompanied by a woman or child or you will be leered at if not reported by the “fear police”.

And stay at least 300 feet from any children, and DO NOT engage them in conversation of any kind. If you must visit a local park by yourself, make sure it’s a park that children do not frequent, preferrably one that doesn’t attract children with playground accoutrements.

You are Aqualung incarnate.

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Vanessa January 17, 2013 at 08:33

Those articles are total bullshit. They’ve been printing them for a while now, but if you check their own stats, it’s all made up. I ran the numbers a while back: The Mild Wild West

The reality is the PRECISE OPPOSITE: areas where men predominate have less crime (including rape and sexual assault!) than those where women are in the majority. That is a fact for all sorts of areas (college towns, urban cores, vacation spots, oil exploration sites) except retirement communities.

One woman with three men is safer than three women with one man, for all sorts of reasons, not the least of which that the men are all wary of one another and the women are better behaved.

Just had to say something cause it drives me bonkers.

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meistergedanken January 17, 2013 at 08:51

Yes, Vanessa, and a lot of those young men out West have GUNS, too. While the higher crime areas with more women – the colleges and urban cores, usually have gun BANS. Makes you think, doesn’t it?

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Georice81 January 17, 2013 at 08:52

This is getting insane. The world truly has lost it. I have gotten to the point of either:

1. Laughing it all off and getting what I can get from the system knowing very well that I might be helping along in the perdition of the world

2. Seriously considering finding a spot in some low populated Caribbean island and living off the sea by myself for the rest of my life.

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Vanessa January 17, 2013 at 09:09

I’ve never promoted banning guns. Reading, plz.

Just wanted to add that the high sex-ratio areas (where men outnumber women) tend to also have higher marriage rates. So the dynamic is that where women are scarcer, they are more valuable, and the way they are treated improves.

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Hf January 17, 2013 at 09:39

While in the military, I had a command sergeant major say to me (no bs): “The Army is like a whore- you get what you can from it and then you kick it to the curb.”

Sage advice, if ever I’ve heard any, especially when applied to our fantastic misandric system.

I, myself, will be heading south of the border as soon as I get a chance.

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TFH January 17, 2013 at 11:20

It is about time they openly stated what they want :

For 90% of men to be exterminated.

A few openly say this (Mary Daly, Hank Pellisier). But it is time they started saying this more boldly.

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highwasp January 17, 2013 at 11:30

I watched a documentary called ‘Gasland’ on HBO about a year ago and it made an impression… destruction of clean ground water and destruction of private property is at issue with fracking – Hydraulic fracturing –

Gasland by Josh Fox is a documentary film worth watching.

http://gaslandthemovie.com/trailer

in the movie Gasland home owners living on or near fracking sites have their water polluted to the point where they can light a fire from the water faucet in their kitchen sink. they turn on the faucet, put a lit match near the spout and fire blows like a small torch from the faucet.

- this of course also effects farmers who have not agreed to having their land destroyed – or who even been offered money for their resources – their land is simply near fracking sites and the surrounding water supplies are polluted to the point where the farmers go bankrupt and have to leave… it’s all legal for the oil companies to put them out.

Fracking looks like real bad news to me and an indication of the oil addictions we currently find ourselves in…

think the oil wars are bad, wait until the water wars start.

of course the young male oil workers are going to be demonized – the male hatred in our culture is ubiquitous now – as ‘natural’, ‘acceptable’ and ‘normal’ as any form of slavery ever was.

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Freckled January 17, 2013 at 11:34

Today a contractor gave his men the advice: “You are not responsible for a poor father, but for a poor father in law.”

But returning to the subject at hand. I grew up in a small town in the middle of nowhere. The only thing of significance was the army base. Many young men had to go there for basic training. After weeks without female sightings, besides the nurse, they were allowed to visit the local bars. The only thing that could be said is that they were overeager for female attention but they never acted inappropriate. Yes, it is somewhat scary if the attention of 20 males is trained upon you for the first time if you enter the local grocery store. But condeming them for it….There is something seriously wrong within the US.

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keyster January 17, 2013 at 11:35

So the dynamic is that where women are scarcer, they are more valuable, and the way they are treated improves.

Alaska has the highest per capita domestic violence rate in the country. Of course 90% of these cases involve alcohol and the indigenous population, but they don’t break it down that way. Alaska is the real wild west.

These desperate men looking for work in the hard-scrabble oil fields of the mid-north west are simply out of options. Construction is nil or done by cheaper non-union illegal Mexicans and factory jobs are either overseas or automated such that women can do them too. Democrats don’t care about the jobs aspect of domestic oil because: a) the fascist enviro/green base of the party, b) minorities and women aren’t depending on the work, c) OPEC campaign contributions.

The United Arab Emerites in part helped fund (produce) Matt-gina Damon’s anti-fracking propaganda project “Promised Land”. The “privilaged white male” is keeping America from “progressing”. He is “racism”, “sexism” and has all the economic power. He must be neutered by feminism and then disenfranchised from participating in society. This is Social Justice for all the repression his greedy, rich ancestors have wrought on “people of color” and women.

The privilaged white male represents Industry and free-market capitalism, because he excels within it and therefore appears to control it and manipulate it in his favor. Big Government must enact regulations and institute unions to curb Industry, because it’s dangerous and not fair to everyone.

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Tam the Bam January 17, 2013 at 11:56

What’s up with that ND ad? Why the fuss over those two nice young men having their date rudely interrupted by street girls?

I have a hunch that people work bestially hard in N Dakota simply for the sake of having something to do, and keep their heads right.
Top three items under the piece about the ad?
“Processing Spring Wheat at the North Dakota Mill and Elevator”
“Growing Durum Wheat in North Dakota”
and when it all gets to you and you finally go insane,
“North Dakota Man Paints his Home in Colorful Polka Dots”
(on the outside, that is)

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meistergedanken January 17, 2013 at 12:07

Vanessa wrote: “I’ve never promoted banning guns. Reading, plz.”

Oh, riiiight, you are “simply concerned with the gun culture, in general, and with the apathetic, macho, mindless patriotism it engenders, in specific”. Fine, let’s split hairs and parse words. We just have to make sure we have the right type, and the right number of guns (one? Is that enough to defend our families? How about one pistol and one rifle – pretty please?).

I suppose your antipathy towards gun collectors gets lost because it pales against your dim view of American men general:

“Americans aren’t lacking guns, they’re lacking courage and keen insight. Yes, I said it. American men, at least at the current time, are both too cowardly and too ignorant to mount any sort of offensive against their resident rulers.”

Man-up, guys! We haven’t drawn the line in the sand in the correct location for this concern troll!

Ref: http://traditionalchristianity.wordpress.com/2013/01/10/we-dont-need-those-guns/

Full disclosure: I own one revolver (my first firearm), that I bought last year.

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joeb January 17, 2013 at 12:30

Can we go back to the old system ,Where we vote the feminist off the Island .
Hf.. Iv never hard such a thing in The military , Life long lessons of honor and Brotherhood was what I took Home .
To this day we Still watch each others back Because the New Enemy will kill you at home after your service .
Just because your out now doesn’t mean your not the biggest Target . To the Day you die ,You better have a buddy worth his weight in salt , Because trust Me you will Call that Number sooner or later .
You better get paranoid or they are going to eat you up Son.
If in fact im talking to a Military Man because , A military Man would know he’s Not safe under his Star trek Blanket .

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Vanessa January 17, 2013 at 12:45

Alaska has the highest per capita domestic violence rate in the country. Of course 90% of these cases involve alcohol and the indigenous population, but they don’t break it down that way. Alaska is the real wild west.

Yes, I noticed that Alaska is the one major outlier because of their indigenous population.: “Update: Forbes has come out with a related article entitled The Most Dangerous U.S. Cities For Women. The cities listed in it all have significantly more women than men, other than Fairbanks, Alaska (which has a high rate of indigenous residents, who have an astronomical rape rate everywhere).”

But even in that state, the rape rate is higher in Anchorage than in the smaller towns and rural areas, where the sex ratio is higher. Native American women have the highest rape ratio of all, for whatever reason. It’s something that doesn’t get a lot of press, perhaps because the majority of the rapists aren’t white or black.

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Vanessa January 17, 2013 at 13:13

meistergedanken,

I think it’s common knowledge that I’m not a True Patriot and that I think that there are a lot of things wrong with American society, in general, and with the promotion of mindless violence and feminism that it pollutes itself and the rest of the world with, in specific. Which is why we’ve decided to leave the country next year.

My point in posting in this thread, and linking to my article, was not to be a “concern troll”, but to give a bit of ammunition to Welmer. In his article, he laments the criticism against young men, but neglected to point out that the arguments those people are making are ones they neglect to back up with data — because the data doesn’t back them up. They act like there’s some sort of rape epidemic going on, but even in Williston, ND, with its crazy-high sex ratios, the number of rapes have been going up roughly in line with the overall increase in population, and are still below what is normal in many urban areas and college campuses.

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keyster January 17, 2013 at 13:49

Native American women have the highest rape ratio of all, for whatever reason. It’s something that doesn’t get a lot of press, perhaps because the majority of the rapists aren’t white or black.

They don’t have a rape problem or a DV problem, they have an alcohol problem…much like college campuses and trailer parks across America.

Evil rapists hiding in parks or dark allys, laying in wait for some innocent waif to be victimized, are the exception. Men and women living together and drinking excessive amounts of alcohol, triggering an altercation, is the typical scenerio. They don’t report alcohol being involved because it’s legal to drink as long as you don’t drive.

In Anchorage and Fairbanks drugs and prostitution are rampant. The black and mexican gangs have moved into the area because the profit margins are better. Same for the prostitutes, where competition in the lower 48 has driven them to areas where they can be Queens.

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Ode January 17, 2013 at 16:00

Young men are perceived by feminists, liberals and statists as a liability to society because they are not yet in bondage to the state. The lack of dependency, and the initiative and autonomy these young men exercise conflicts with their insatiable need for control.

+1
I once had a discussion with a Liberal years ago, this was before I got into the MRM, about investing in gold and silver. The Liberal was deeply against investing in gold / silver and if she were to have her way, there would be a very heavy tax imposed by the government to discourage such investments. The basis of her argument was that it would be better to steer investment money instead into the stock market….which goes to businesses….which goes into creating jobs. My reply was simply, what if gold has a better growth potential than the stock market? Can you blame an investor for trying to maximize profit margins?

Fast forward to the present. Now looking back at this debate through the lens of MRM, perhaps this had nothing to do with Liberalism vs Conservatism. Perhaps this is just another example of a feminist who is upset about the idea of a single man who has money and he plans on spending it the way he wants it.

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continent January 17, 2013 at 19:03

More robust young men we raise, more cannon fodder there will be for “perpetual wars”. Some soldiers choose to end their military career by suicide, over 1000 last year, more than in combat.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/03/16309351-the-enemy-within-soldier-suicides-outpaced-combat-deaths-in-2012?lite

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/12/27/280323/237-israel-troops-commit-suicide/

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V10 January 17, 2013 at 19:30

Jim: “When I’m old and weak, I hope there are some of them around to lend a hand. I want them raising the next generation, making my country wealthy with their energy and creativity, and protecting our communities. Don’t count me in, I am 23 and frustrated. If this world wants to go up in flames I certainly won’t try to stop it.”

Same here, just want to watch the world burn. My sole hope is not that we can turn back in time (that’s not going to happen), but that there’s something left in the ashes. The sooner and the faster it burns, the sooner we can rebuild, while we’re still young enough.

The thing to remember about this rigged game is that it doesn’t need all men to walk away from the table, just enough of them to make it unmistakeably unsustainable.

Japan with it’s Herbivore Men is perhaps furthest along of the industrialized nations; they allow minimal immigration, so they don’t have a lot of young and eager foreigners with big families coming in and distorting the actuarial math. Their government and media are openly acknowledging they have a demographic nightmare brewing, with an aging population and a dwindling birth rate that will strain entitlements (for every 4 grandparents, there is 1 grandchild to feed the machine). And not only are these men eschewing relationships and reproduction, they’re also not interested in the worker-ant corporate culture of slaving away long hours, and so have also checked out economically. Shaming has, of course, been tried, with no real effect.

There are obviously unique cultural forces at work, but the general problem is the same as in North America and Europe: the disenfranchisement of young men. Males (particularly non-alphas) have been written off as either unnecessary, or as Price posts here, active threats to society. So we’re tuning out and dropping out, and it is slowly seeping through that we were doing a lot of the mundane, dirty, heavy-lifting. The realization is not quite stark yet; people are asking “Where have all the good men gone?” socially and “Where have all the skilled workers gone?” economically, but they’ve not connected the dots. We were forming families (and siring new taxpayers and workers), creating new wealth (and tax revenue) or maintaining the infrastructure (that is taken for granted until it breaks). A man who has a family has a stake in society, and will break his back in toil for or give his life defense of that society.

Well, we don’t have much of a vested interest in a society that despises us. Let’s see how well that works.

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realist January 17, 2013 at 22:44

This is such infuriating bs, there is nothing better for women than an environment full of young men who make money and where women are scarce. Those women are lucky. They have more choice and their relationships will be more stable, unlike in places where there is shortage of males – which entails competition between women, husband snatching, ridiculously high demands from men and lots of philanderers. ND is the very opposite of that – it’s most likely a woman’s paradise that way. The reason there are not many rapes is because those are mainly hard working white boys from Midwest or something.

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Berkeley Redneck January 18, 2013 at 00:33

Drop 10,000 men off in the wilderness, and you get a boomtown.

Drop 10,000 women off in the wilderness, and you’ll need to send a search and rescue party.

The real problem women have with these guys is that they’re not alphas, they don’t have the money and connections to be able to afford to live in a major city — which women flock to for a chance to date the richest and most powerful men.

No, these poor guys have to work for a living. Which makes them ‘creepy,’ in the eyes of all too many women these days.

As always, the question with women is never ‘what can I do to be productive,’ but ‘how have you FAILED to completely meet MY needs.’

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Nutz January 18, 2013 at 03:40

This is an excellent example of why legalized prostitution is a good thing. Just like with the availability of porn, crimes by sexually frustrated men will decrease by a significant margin. Plus the state would get some much needed tax funds.

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Masked Stranger January 18, 2013 at 06:16

@realist

I doubt that women want a men that gets dirty for a living. Sure he makes about six figures. But how she going to justify the fact that he gets dirty and lives in a small town to her girlfriends?

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Pirran January 18, 2013 at 10:52

@highwasp

Oh dear. There’s no easy way of saying this, but you’ve fallen for one of the more widely discredited liberal hoaxes of the last few years. As has been widely reported, Josh Fox KNEW that the area had very high levels of methane in the water supply DECADES before fracking started, but decided not to report that inconvenient truth (until he was embarrassingly confronted with the fact at a press conference later). This was but one of many, many factually incorrect statements made in the documentary.

Here’s WUWT devastating take on the Hollywood phoney:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/06/04/the-gasland-movie-a-fracking-shame-director-pulls-video-to-hide-inconvenient-truths/

Here’s The Wall Street Journals take down of the fraud:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303936704576398462932810874.html

There are plenty of other links I could use, but even liberal journals were less than enthralled at Josh Fox’s methods.

Josh Fox, needless to say, didn’t win the Oscar that year, despite the longings of his West Coast luvvie friends.

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MaMu1977 January 18, 2013 at 13:26

I dated a Native woman for a few months in 2010. The last time that we had sex, she turned to me post-orgasm and told me, “You would make a very good rapist.” This, despite the fact that she came over to my hotel room during a blizzard, ordered and paid for our food, set up a long-play music file, took off her clothes with no help from me, then pulled off the condom during our last sexual act. I was worried about pregnancy or disease, but hearing the R-word made me glad that I had the presence of mind to pull out (instead of trusting that she was “on the Pill”), because crazy is crazy and I would have been screwed if she’d shown up in a police station with my sperm inside.

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jay January 18, 2013 at 13:34

@keyster

“I asked one a few days ago to show me the empirical evidence that fracking is harming our environment.”

There:
http://www.activistpost.com/2011/01/fracking-life-out-of-arkansas-and.html

http://www.water-contamination-from-shale.com/wyoming/residents-of-wyoming-fracking-community-report-illnesses/

http://www.epa.gov/ogwdw/uic/pdfs/cbmstudy_attach_uic_append_a_doe_whitepaper.pdf

As well as other links those websites link to.

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jay January 18, 2013 at 13:42

@V10

What will be your plans for a mad-max scenario or just WWIII. Or a New world order rising out of the ashes?

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anonymouse January 18, 2013 at 17:10

Jealousy.

If not for the “eww inbreds!” factor of flyover country (I say this as someone who worked in the patch for 5 years to save up for university.) all these urban girls would be throwing on their sluttiest skirts and heels looking to cash that cheque.

Unfortunately for the urban coastal girls there’s no oil under New York City, plenty of hot air above it though.

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V10 January 19, 2013 at 11:16

@jay

Depends how bad it gets, and I don’t pretend to know how far wrong things will go. Nor when. But as a wiser man than me noted, “Things that can’t go on forever, won’t”, and we’re past the point of easy fixes to keep the game going. The only thing I can predict with confidence is that things are going to get worse before they get better. Too many people are living in a dreamworld, and they’re going to have to feel some real pain before they’ll wake up. And then? Maybe they re-evaluate and we start clawing our way back, or they double-down and we languish for a generation or 3.

If we’re lucky, maybe we’ll get several years of real honest-to-God hard times, sort of like Argentina went through, with the economy brutally correcting, ordinary people getting wiped out by currency devaluation, huge crime surges, that sort of thing. The general framework and infrastructure of society continues to work, more or less, but power, water, food, security, transportation, sanitation, medical care and all the other important things that people take for granted become unreliable. Harsh truth will feast on fantasies, like worthless college degrees, endless consumption and actions without consequence. As the saying goes, liberals (and plenty of conservatives, too) will get mugged by reality. And hopefully like our grandparents in the Dirty 30s, people will internalize a lot of tough life lessons.

And if things spiral out of control into WWIII and Thunderdome, well, we’re pretty much all fucked.

As for planning, I don’t have the money for any kind of elaborate prepping, and I’m not sure how much good it would do anyway (to continue with my Argentina example, isolated homes and farms were favorite targets). I’m trying to stay adaptive; live light and travel light, keep the finances liquid and debt-free, be ready to move on short notice, be ready to run if necessary, cultivate useful and employable skills.

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gilgamesh January 19, 2013 at 20:09

Please tell me “concern troll” isn’t going mainstream, the concept was invented by the fat acceptance crowd.

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The First Joe January 20, 2013 at 07:01

Ack! What is it with lefty news-sites that they can’t “do” simple text-and-picture articles without turning it into some pile-o-crap-Flash-gizmo nonsense?

“Grist” now joins HuffPo and Salon on my big list of “Do not click! This site will cause Firefox to slow-to-a-crawl, or hang, or crash.”

They should look at Lew Rockwell’s site – that’s how to deliver text-based news. Keep It Simple.
Of course, then there’d be no IT work for the hipster “design” graduates. :p

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Anonymous January 21, 2013 at 02:02

thanks Pirran,

I am not surprised I fell for it – living in green-commie country for the past 25 years, sometimes I forget to double check the facts.

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T January 22, 2013 at 13:18

We all know what’s going on here: young, white men are being demonized; not just here, but globally.

There are forces at play (Fed, anyone?) that want to remove white men from leadership, so the Turds can move in and complete their communist/fag take-over. And the news media helps where it can.

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