Chuck Ross debunked an infographic some feminist made about rape and how pervasive it is, how rare false accusations are, etc.
The infographic is childish and stupid (like most infographics), but some pundits retweeted it as though it was a “sad commentary on rape culture” or something like that.
What stands out is that she suggests only 1% of rapists are jailed for rape.
If this is true, then we can extrapolate from Bureau of Justice Statistics that there are about 23,000,000 rapists at large. Actually, that would be an understatement, because that’s based on how many are under supervision on any given day. Given that the convicted sex offender population under supervision probably represents less than half of all those ever convicted, the true number must be over 50,000,000 men, or about a third of the US male population.
So, if feminists want the additional 99% of unconvicted rapists they claim to exist jailed immediately, we’d have to increase our prison population in the US by a factor of over 20 (we currently incarcerate 2.3 million people). This would increase our incarceration rate, which is already by far the highest on earth at 754 per 100,000 people, to about 15,000, or 15% of the entire US population.
Assuming costs rise in a linear manner on a per prisoner basis, our annual expenditures on incarceration would have to increase from about 60.3 billion to roughly $1.2 trillion — about a third of the recent federal budget, and nearly half of all revenue. Indeed, it would probably be more expedient to simply shoot every third American male (but then who’d pay the taxes?).
The absurdity of the feminist argument becomes clearer every day, but as in some of the totalitarian governments of the past century, few dare to point it out.
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“The infographic is childish and stupid…”
All feminists are childish and stupid.
“few dare to point it out. ” This has been true in part because there are no rewards for it. In the immortal words of George Gilder, “their is no job in all the world more thankless than that of the male anti-feminist”, but, that is, thank God, changing a little bit, bit by bit. Though I wouldn’t rush over to the local university and attempt to gain employment in the “Men’s Studies Department” or waste too much time writing an expose’ about the repercussions of feminism for the NY Times.
So, if feminists want the other 99% of unconvicted rapists they claim to exist jailed immediately, we’d have to increase our prison population in the US by a factor of over 20 (we currently incarcerate 2.3 million people). This would increase our incarceration rate, which is already by far the highest on earth at 754 per 100,000 people, to about 15,000, or 15% of the entire US population.
Assuming costs rise in a linear manner on a per prisoner basis, our annual expenditures on incarceration would have to increase from about 60.3 billion to roughly $1.2 trillion — about a third of the recent federal budget, and nearly half of all revenue. Indeed, it would probably be more expedient to simply shoot every third American male (but then who’d pay the taxes?).
Not so fast. The better assumption would be feminists/manginas/alphas or whoever will just set up work camps. Alias gulags, alias Konzentrationslagern.
Feminism is a totality as any other.
The absurdity of the anti-Jewish argument was equally apparent to most Germans, but it didn’t stop them from working in the concentration camps.
The FBI says false rape accusations are from “%10-%80″
The continual talking of rape gives fuel to the false raype hysteria machine.
“Yeah, right”
One of the goals of feminism is make the definition of rape as ambiguous as possible. The goal is to make it not clear whether one’s actions are legal or not
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/12/21/part_iifeminists_debate_sexual_allegations_against
>The infographic is childish and stupid (like most infographics)
Hey, I make a lot of info graphics! The issue is that most infographics are not info graphics — they’re illustrated lists. When seeing the original image that kicked this off, I remembered a quote:
If you design a visualization before correctly understanding the data on which it is based, you face the very real risk of summarizing incorrectly, producing faulty insights, or otherwise mangling the process of disseminating knowledge.
http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2010/05/10/imagine-a-pie-chart-stomping-on-an-infographic-forever/
Smashing Magazine 2010/05/10/
For anyone interested in data visualization, check out this blog: http://www.guardian.co.uk/data
Tell you one thing; if you have that many males in prison; at least the women can spend what little money those men had left for themselves to buy the appliances these new slave laborers will build in the pen.
Between appliances and roads by prisoners, war, loss of jobs for quotas, marginalization at public schools of boys for female advancement in education; we apparently exist solely for the improvement of women.
I can’t wait to rise up and throw their overpriced boot off our necks. Keep the good ones; and let the rest go to China. If China would even want them?
I was wondering when you were going to get around to addressing this!
I saw this first on Facebook, regrettably.
My take on the matter (also references chuck):
http://meistergedanken.livejournal.com/28344.html
I saw this regurgitated on FB by a woman that I have known since kindergarten, very smart, accomplished, rode the carousal in college and then settled down, turned “traditional” and has been happily married with two boys for the last 12 years or so.
She remarked, of course, how “sad” this made her and that her most important task, “as a mom” would be to raise her two sons to “respect boundaries and know how to properly treat women’”. This was too much for me to let slide, so I commented on her “share” and deftly punctured the central premise of the graphic. I further insisted that what she should REALLY be doing “as a mom” is teaching her sons to be aware of, and how to defend themselves against false rape accusations, because if she – their own mother – didn’t, who would?
In the exchange, which remained civil, she acknowledged that false rape accusations were indeed a serious matter because they ultimately prevented women who were really raped from getting a fair hearing(!), and that they could easily wreck a man’s life. But in her view, the overall impression of the graphic, i.e., that only a small percentage of rapes were punished, still “felt” true to her, and “fit in with her experience”.
To press the point home some more, I pointedly asked her: “I assume (and really hope) that you actually believe it is LESS likely that your sons will grow up to commit rape than it is that they will become the victim of a malicious and untrue rape allegation?”
I had her there. She replied that “of course” she felt HER boys were fundamentally good and would never “intentionally” do such a thing, but maybe they could help “intervene” to help save woman they knew (doubtless some drunk skank at a college frat party or something). So they are to be white knights-in-training, then.
I was going to actually use this exchange as the basis for an article here, but the next day she deleted the entire thing, including her reference to the graphic. But hey, at least she didn’t “unfriend” me…
There you go using logic and that math stuff again. I gave up on that a long time ago. Now I just watch and listen to them with amused resignation. It is not sustainable, and I am looking forward to the best part of the show when it starts going off the rails. That’s when guys like me thrive.
I wonder what the percentage and numbers are of people who actually believe anything feminists say….
There will be a gun control bill proposed by some smarmy Congresswoman called the “Protect Our Children from Gun Violence Act” (kinda like “The Affordable Health Care Act”), and if you vote against it you must be FOR children being shot. That’s just how Leftist propagandists operate. It’s taking a wedge issue and driving it through the heart of liberty from tyranny.
If you question rape statistics you must be FOR rape. And there can’t be an open honest discussion about it because politicians, pundits and other public figures realize it’s an electric third rail. Look at the hysteria in India right now. Something happens, an anomoly, and the Phony Outrage Movement goes into action demanding the government do something, which ends up strippng EVERYONE of there freedom from tyranny just a little bit more.
I raped a woman. I raped her several times. She insisted she be tied spread-eagled to her bed while I raped her. I did not have her consent because that would not be rape and therefore completely destroy her fantasy. I dumped her when she said she wanted me to start hitting her while we had sex, which was creepy in and of itself. I didn’t feel powerful or even experience a great deal of pleasure from it, but I liked her so I wanted to make her happy. Am I a rapist?
One is reminded of Janet “for the kids” Reno. She had the kids at Waco gassed and set on fire because she was trying to save them. She wasn’t in her office a the time though – she said at the hearing that she didn’t want to create the image of a crisis by coming in on a weekend. Such prudence! This is what we need more of – people who don’t want to create an image of a crisis during a crisis. Now we have Janet Napolitano. Who is the next Lesbian they are going to pick? C.S Lewis had it down with his character of Fairy Hardcastle in his novel “That Hideous Strength”.
In the women’s government schools, The Edible Woman is being used routinely by feminist women as a text to indoctrinate the girls in hate against the male race.
The edible boys (the teachers are feminazi panzers) are like gingerbread dough in the Hitler Youth of Feminist Hate (the w)omen’s government schools) and they are routinely victimized by these not-too-human teachers.
One benefit of such is that the boys are increasingly gaining a gender consciousness. Just recently, a, “trouble maker” (a forward opponent/speaker against the hate the women indoctrinate) told me at his own initiative that, “Men are routinely presented as THE victimizers and the women as THE victims.”
Immediately after making that comment to me, he pointed out that such was not an accurate presentation of reality AS HE HAD ALREADY EXPERIENCED IT.
Indeed, the credibility of the victimizing women (and very few men who are left who obey those hate-mongering women) in the women’s government schools is finally being undermined by the very dishonesty they exercise. Good.
I have to wonder if The hhs power grab knows what they are grabbing , Its nice to think you’re in control but ,Id find it hard to believe that they think its gold .
My experience is to much of anything becomes a pocket full of snakes .
“Am I a rapist?”
Henceforth, thou shalt be known as “Keyster the Rapist”. Let it be so recorded!
I have to wonder if The hhs power grab knows what they are grabbing , Its nice to think you’re in control but ,Id find it hard to believe that they think its gold.
The master plan behind Obamacare is to collapse the private insurance industry, make it a single-payer Federal Public Utility. Once government takes over the insurance industry (they already control almost half of it with Medicare/Medicaid), they will then dictate health costs to private health care providers (like they do with Medicare/Medicaid already), which will intern collapse the entire industry into a government run health care system similar to the UK and Canada. This is what Roosevelt wanted, what Johnson started, and what Obama (or Biden/Clinton) will finish.
This is why Obama has a keen eye on cutting defense spending with the “small foot print” military presence around the world. If a tyrant or a bunch of Jihadists over-runs a country somewhere (like Israel or Mali or Taiwan or South Korea), we’ll let France or somebody else save them. No more World Police for us, we’ll “lead from behind”. We have “free” health care just like all you guys!
The HHS will control your Life from birth to death and nothing will remain before or after . Its a power grab . Its not just health care it , It will be Jobs and You as a payee . It will be eugenics. and a police state .
This is the big picture .
1 out 1647 men are falsely accused
53% of those men will go to jail . Falsely . Guess what happens when they get out of Jail
Hurt people hurt people . Nothing like Psychopath training in Jail.
Making the Bomb and sending them out into society Is who’s fault .
Rape culture is ditransitive( the recipient of the? theme )
Twenty-seven percent (27%) of these complainants admitted they had
fabricated their accusation just before taking the polygraph or right after they failed the test.
(It should be noted that whenever there was any doubt, the unresolved? case was re-classified as a “proven”
rape.) Combining this 27% with the initial 212 “disproved” cases,
it was determined that approximately 45% of the total rape allegations
were false.1 in 12 now that mean 1 in 24 man are falsely accused of rape
On the last note about 824 men will get out of Jail every year that where innocent , But The feminist made a new breed of rapist so lets do the math . over a 20 year period . The legal system made about 17,000 rapists ,45.000 actual cases of rape a year Is it possible we can cut those Numbers in half by not accusing innocent men of rape .
I know these Number include Not provable and unfounded but , That’s innocent also . At least in America .
Feminist want to make accusation a determining factor . So they can riase the amount and make more psychopaths . Hence the problem gets worse by there own making .
McDowell research .
This is Just a wacky thought I had , The truth is always hard for Feminist to swallow .
Yeah this graph is NOT accurate and Jezebel kind of (barely) admitted it. That being said, false rape accusations are still insanely rare.