Feminists Caught on Film

by W.F. Price on December 9, 2012

In a stroke of good fortune, Studio Brule came along to document Warren Farrell’s presentation at the University of Toronto, capturing the essence of radical feminism with some great footage of the event and protest. They posted the video last week. I’ve been saying that good video is important, and the feminists made their appearance to give us quite a show.

The video shows feminists exactly as they are — not gussied up and made to look respectable as in the typical leftist media presentation. They are crude, aggressive, hateful and ugly, like a pack of snarling curs. One of them follows a young man around attempting to instigate a fight. Others taunt the police, who were going very easy on them given that they were engaged in criminally blocking access to a public event. In the US, they would be committing a civil rights violation for denying citizens the right to free speech and free assembly. In short, they were little more than a politicized criminal gang.

The contrast between the polite, tolerant young men who came to see the event and the feminist rabble attempting to deny their civil rights – actually deny their very humanity – couldn’t be any more stark.

Yet there are still those who are calling them victims, and claiming that the thugs and harpies are now “threatened” by the very people they victimized at their rally. Boo hoo. Paul Elam dug up the name of one of the little tramps at the protest, but I can guarantee that nobody gives a damn about her. At the very most, some future employer might think twice about hiring her, but seriously, she isn’t ever going to have that kind of job anyway.

Unsurprisingly, Manboobz Futrelle defends the spoiled, campus criminals, and tries to call Elam an “abuser” for exposing them. Meanwhile, he excuses their criminal, violent behavior. But if a picture is worth a thousand words, a video is worth ten thousand, and the above speaks for itself.

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geographybeefinalisthimself December 9, 2012 at 10:09

Futrelle should be used instead of a lab rat for scientific experimentation, because there is only so much a rat can be forced to do and because the scientist would get emotionally attached to the rat. If he’s defending this, he really has cratered to a new low with his morbidly obese body.

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And Balls December 9, 2012 at 10:29

Was there one attractive female in that group?

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Zorro December 9, 2012 at 10:35

Pic by Pic, vid by vid, essay by essay, the veneer of legitimacy is being stripped away from the hate movement calloed feminism. Only the ideologues and hardcore haters will remain.

No civic-minded, justice-loving human being can support skanks like these. They’re Klansmen with pantyhose. Swine.

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AntZ December 9, 2012 at 10:46

Bravo! It is time for the MRM to take off the gloves. Feminists have been waging a scorched earth war against men and boys for decades. Now they want sympathy because MRAs are shining the light on their evil religon of hate? Screw them. Cry havoc, and let loose the dogs of war!

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crypter27 December 9, 2012 at 11:09

Feminist can no longer control the debate so now they seek to intimidate,but these violent tactics will only cause them to lose what little credibility. They have left! And what I mean by that,is for the last 30 years they’ve gone unopposed & they’re not used to being challenged. And the reason they’ve been unopposed for so long,is because they were favored by main stream media for along time but with mainstream media. Losing its credibility & the rise of the internet also alternitive press. They are no longer sliding under the radar before that no body ever questioned them but this is changing. And with a real backlash underway & the rise of the MRM,a movement that has challenged feminism on many different levels & with the very word feminism. Becoming a pariah,they lash out like a wounded animal & there position is “were not going down with out a fight” but using violents will only further expose them. For the biggots they are! And may I add they’re also not use to defending there position,which is hard to defend. Because they don’t have the moral high ground.

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keyster December 9, 2012 at 11:23

If anyone should ever foresee the possibility of feminists behaving badly in public anywhere in the USA, please let me know – and I will be there to document it.

Unfortunately as things stand now our universities and colleges here are closed to dissenting opinion of any kind – if it does not agree with the Leftist worldview, which of course Feminism is a part of.

Recently the Boulder City Council held a session to consider banning fracking in Boulder County. The room was overwhelmed with anti-fracking activists who would not allow anyone to speak. There was NO opposition to ban fracking present. Even the City Council all agreed it should happen. Yet protestors showed up to be heard, by everyone who already agreed with them. The meeting was delayed one hour because of all the chaos and noise.

So you can see what I’m up against. It isn’t just censorship, it’s the Thought Police. The mere HINT of a conservative or a Warren Farrell speaking on a campus in the USA would be met with virulent opposition… so it’s not even considered. If you disagree you’re a hater, spreading “hate speech”.

http://news.yahoo.com/video/fordham-university-bans-ann-coulter-015353051.html

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oddsock December 9, 2012 at 12:22

Men’s rights speech stifled, only on a Canadian campus

Sun News

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/men's-rights-speech-stifled-only-on-a-canadian-campus/2017271843001

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Mike December 9, 2012 at 12:42

Good Lord.

It’s rare to see such idiocy displayed in public! I’m left wondering though, why did all the males in the video seem so distant, if not to say submissive?
Quite frankly, if you permit me to say this, this is what you get by not standing up for yourself.

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Opus December 9, 2012 at 13:25

Just to be on the safe side, I take back what I said about Miss Price, seeing that she is somewhere in the waste of civilization known as The Dominion of Canada. Clearly guidance will be required, not so much against feminism but to prevent her from turning into a harridan, which is all these silly women are: out of control, emotional, and desparately in need of a good man – Genghis Khan is the sort of guy I have in mind.

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Lyn87 December 9, 2012 at 13:38

So butt-fugly skanks scream at big male cops, because… patriarchy? Huh? Have they no sense of irony? I’m usually no fan of cops, but those guys took an awful lot of abuse without doing anything in return. Some punk even gave the NAZI salute – apparently without thinking that if he had mocked real SS or Brownshirts he would have been beaten to a pulp or perhaps even killed on the spot.

If they lived in a patriarchy (not as patriarchies are, but as they define the term) they would have all been hauled off in chains and beaten. The fact that they were not proves that 1) Canada is not a patriarchy and/or 2) patriarchies allow women a tremendous amount of freedom to act like shrieking harridans in public.

When they finally succeed in destroying Western Civilization they will get a serious lesson in what it means to lose the protection of men.

Of course real patriarchies benefit women even more than men. These chicks want all the benefits that come from living in a society historically based in patriarchy (the rule of law, running water, education), along with all the benefits that come when such societies begin to crumble (women’s suffrage, consumerism), and they expect that state of affairs to go on forever – as if they can tear the heart out of what make advanced civilization function while retaining the benefits that comes from living in such a society.

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crypter27 December 9, 2012 at 14:12

Well said Lyn87,feminism will become a victim of its own success!

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oddsock December 9, 2012 at 14:14

The Canadian Fempire

Erin Pizzy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oihGYZpMQb4&feature=g-hist

Keyster

It is not and never has been a cultural marxist or socialist plan it is simply womens nature on full tilt enabled by feminism. Mens rights and our appalling treatment is not a platform for your right wing political desires. All politicians left middle and right shit on men.

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scatmaster December 9, 2012 at 14:25

Quite frankly, if you permit me to say this, this is what you get by not standing up for yourself.

With all due respect Mike any reaction they would consider violence.
The fact they didn’t get one has infuriated them.
They are now dealing with the enemy face to face and it is not going to stop.

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nugganu December 9, 2012 at 14:49

Th

Um, this is typical urban Canadian woman behaviour, guys. Nothing of surprise here to this Canuck.

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Anonymous Reader December 9, 2012 at 14:49

Ironic that Manbooby is clearly now opposed to free speech, yet it’s the righteously angry men that the SPLC declares to be a group of “hate”.

There is plenty of hate to be seen in the modern world, and quite a lot of it is directed at men by the likes of Manbooby.

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JHJ December 9, 2012 at 15:02

Isn’t it interesting that at one point they screech “This is what men’s rights look like!” at the cops?

First time I hear that. Apparently the sisterhood and their mangina enablers are finally getting bothered by the dissonance in the echo chamber.

Good and well. You’ll be a lot more bothered before we’re done with you.

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Tam the Bam December 9, 2012 at 15:27

“.. but seriously, she isn’t ever going to have that kind of job anyway” .. or have to have any real sort of a job at all, ever.
Is pretty much the core of it all, I suspect.
Consequences? Those are only for the bad menz, when they don’t obey.

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Brad December 9, 2012 at 16:13

Warren Farrell is one classy son of a bitch. Seriously, I dont know who posted the Michael Coren (Spelling? lol) interview, but damn he comes off as classy. He pretty much forgives them, and, when given the chance to paint them in an awful light, he resists. He even tries to explain their rationale.

Give this man a god damn medal, someone, now.

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Anonymous Reader December 9, 2012 at 16:26

…“.. but seriously, she isn’t ever going to have that kind of job anyway” .. or have to have any real sort of a job at all, ever.

Hey, “Julia” doesn’t need a job. She’s got Big Uncle Sam as her sugar daddy…

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Anonymous Reader December 9, 2012 at 16:34

Whew, that vid is a real blast from the past. I bet the mothers of some of those skanks were the kind of bitches who screeched “Fish! Bicycle! in to men’s faces over 30 years ago.

So it’s Same Stuff, Different Decade…except the righteously angry men are not fooled, and there are more of us every week, and fewer White Knights. Keep it up, feminists, and pretty soon men will cross the street to get away from you, even when you are begging for help.

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zed December 9, 2012 at 16:46

I know it is heresy in the MRM to say anything critical of Saint Warren, but in many respects the protesters are his bastard ideological grand-daughters.

Second wave feminism gained a lot of credibility during its first few tentative steps from the support of men like him.

Here are a few tidbits from his Wikipedia entry –

He came to prominence in the 1970s as one of the most vocal men championing the cause of second wave feminism, and serving in the New York City leadership of the National Organization of Women (NOW). However, when NOW took policy positions that Farrell regarded as anti-male and anti-father, the emphasis of his career and scholarship shifted drastically and he is now recognized as one of the most important figures in the modern men’s movement.

When the second wave of the women’s movement evolved in the late 1960s, Farrell’s support of it led the National Organization for Women’s New York City chapter to ask him to form a men’s group. The response to that group led to his ultimately forming some 300 additional men and women’s groups and becoming the only man to be elected three times to the Board of Directors of the National Organization for Women in N.Y.C. (1971–74).[6] In 1974, Farrell left N.O.W. in N.Y.C. and his teaching at Rutgers when his wife became a White House Fellow and he moved with her to D.C.[6]

During his feminist period, Farrell wrote op-eds for the New York Times and appeared frequently on the Today show and Phil Donahue show, and was featured in People, Parade and the international media. This, and his women and men’s groups, one of which had been joined by John Lennon, inspired The Liberated Man.[6] The Liberated Man was written from a feminist perspective, introducing alternative family and work arrangements that could better accommodate working women and encourage care-giving men.

In a 1997 interview, Farrell stated:
Everything went well until the mid-seventies when NOW came out against the presumption of joint custody [of children following divorces]. I couldn’t believe the people I thought were pioneers in equality were saying that women should have the first option to have children or not to have children–that children should not have equal rights to their dad.[10]

As the old saying goes… “we all make mistakes.”

I’ll bet he also could not believe that the daughters and granddaughters of the movement he helped start would some day be screaming at him about what an abuser he is.

By the early 1990s, Farrell was writing that he felt the misunderstandings about men had deepened and become dangerous to the survival of families and love.[16] He had spent five years re-examining everything he thought he knew about the sexes.

Perhaps he did not know as much about the sexes as he thought he knew.

It’s like that old saying –
“The road to hell is paved with good intentions.”

I have to give him credit that for the past 20 years or so he has been trying to do penance for his sins of the previous 20 years, but I also believe that the message of the story of Pandora’s Box is that is far easier to unleash evil on the world than it is to call it back.

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zed December 9, 2012 at 16:55

Whew, that vid is a real blast from the past. I bet the mothers of some of those skanks were the kind of bitches who screeched “Fish! Bicycle! in to men’s faces over 30 years ago.

So it’s Same Stuff, Different Decade…

Make it 40 years, and Farrell would have been right along beside them screaming.

What goes around, comes around, and in the late 1960s and early 1970s, Farrell did more to trash traditional masculinity than any man except Phil Donahue and Alan Alda.

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oddsock December 9, 2012 at 17:12

Can’t say I have ever been a fan of Warren Farrell simply because he has done much work for NOW while calling himself a feminist.

However, he is in a postion of some influence and appears to be trying to repair the damage ?

I suppose we are all recovering manginas at some level.

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W.F. Price December 9, 2012 at 17:15

@Zed

I’m not going to hold Farrell’s earlier support of the “equality” scam against him, because it took the same issue – kids – to bring me around. I have to give Farrell respect for taking a stand against the family law/custody atrocity despite not being subject to the same himself. While I was always skeptical of feminism from a young age, I never really thought it was worth my time until I had some very real feminists wreck my life in order to separate me from my children. As a young man who grew up without his father around, I thought putting a great deal of effort into keeping and raising my kids could only be interpreted positively by society. Boy was I wrong. I will never, ever forgive the feminists for that swindle, and will remain their enemy until the end. Every hug I give my kids, every sweet moment I have as a father, and every effort I make to be a family man is despite the best efforts of the feminists to prevent it. Warren Farrell knows that, and he fights that fight. Despite any faults, he’s a fundamentally good man for that.

He’s also fairly clever. I’m glad he’s stuck with it. The hatred the feminists threw at him demonstrates the culmination of his effort. It’s amazing he didn’t face it earlier, and after seeing interviews with him concerning the violent protest he didn’t seem as though he was all that upset by them. In fact, he seemed a bit pleased by it. Good for Farrell. I may not agree with everything the man writes and every position he takes, but he’s defending me and countless other men as fathers. That’s more than enough. This feminist hate fest he brought about in Toronto is a great present to us, too. We need to let them get their hate on against the sincere, well-meaning young men who went to see him talk. Do you think those reasonable, handsome young men who put up with that kind of abuse will be future white knights and supporters of feminists?

This is the beginning of the end of feminism as a mainstream political force. We just need more of these scenes, and we need to spread them around.

Charles Martel December 9, 2012 at 17:19

Zed
Second wave feminism gained a lot of credibility during its first few tentative steps from the support of men like him.

To be fair to Warren, I think many men supported second wave feminism – equal rights for women – at that time. I certainly did. I attended an abortion rights rally in DC in the mid-’80s, God help me. It took me until the early ’90s to begin to see the foul beast of total gender supremacy hiding behind the equal rights mask.

The only men’s rights voices that will be heard by a larger audience for quite some time are the moderates like Mr. Farrell. I’m more than willing to forgive his past feminist advocacy.

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crella December 9, 2012 at 17:30

“Phil Donahue and Alan Alda.”

Oh God. I remember those two turkeys….

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Norm December 9, 2012 at 17:42

Not surprised it happened in Toronto, one of the most left wing liberal places in North America. Some say the marriage strike is not working. All it takes is 5% “dropout” rate to make a huge effect. ie 5% decline in fuel supplies, 5% drop in body temp means you are having hypothermia.

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Bill December 9, 2012 at 17:52

I remember seeing the video the day it came out (the raw footage) of women attacking the police and calling them pigs. What they don’t realize is that without “the patriarchy” or morals, these men would most likely have snapped and taught these bitches a lesson.

I remember I watched several interviews of the women trying to “convince” men that warren supported rape or whatever. All these individuals wanted was to hear the other side. They wanted to hear what someone else had to say in order to form an opinion. Feminists know that by blocking off the other side (of logic and reason) they will basically run free. When they see something that threatens them they fight it. Unfortunately for them, these actions are now being shown around the world. They are loosing credibility slowly as men and women see the true face of feminism.

And did any of you guys see an attractive girl (other than maybe the Asian) in the group? Most of these “women” ( I even think that term is being to generous) are simply living in a world of their own where they see women oppressed when in fact they are actually oppressing men, just like they have for thousands of years (just a different type in the form of work competition which is tilted in their favor).

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oddsock December 9, 2012 at 17:52

Norm

“Not surprised it happened in Toronto, one of the most left wing liberal places in North America.”

You foreigners really confuse me. I thought Toronto is in Canada ?

Thats like saying Glasgow is in Northern England.

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zed December 9, 2012 at 18:09

Oddsock –

What is the name of the island on which the countries of England and Scotland are located?

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zed December 9, 2012 at 18:12

@ Bill & Charles –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSTWy25hRiI

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oddsock December 9, 2012 at 18:12

Zed

England. We just rent the land to Scotland and Wales. The other floaty bit to the West is Ireleand, also rented.

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JFinn December 9, 2012 at 18:16

Futrelle is losing traffic rapidly. He’s irrelevant, while the MRA traffic is continuing its slow growth.

Had MRAs been caught on camera acting 1% as violent and angry as the feminists, you’d might see it on mainstream media along with comparisons to the KKK.

Feminists are 2 kinds of rape-apologists:

1. They demand that a woman’s accusation be sufficient enough to put a man behind bars, where he’ll be raped. The lack of repercussion emboldens thug women to falsely accuse innocent men(like Kobe or the Duke Lacrosse team, whom Nancy Grace and Amanda Marcotte tried very hard to send to get raped in prison.)

2. By doing this the feminists are the cause for the unfortunate suspicion of the actual rape victim’s accusation. Feminists are causing undue mistrust.

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3DShooter December 9, 2012 at 18:30

Sad, just sad – what more can one say after watching that video.

I’d state my mind, but Paul E-lame would probably get his censorship panties in a bunch . . . (and yeah, I can back that up – E-lame is pretty foul mouthed loose cannon with those that don’t toe his line. I wouldn’t be propping up the likes of him too much even though at one time I thought quite highly of him).

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Anonxcf December 9, 2012 at 18:32

“You foreigners really confuse me. I thought Toronto is in Canada ?

Thats like saying Glasgow is in Northern England.”

North America is a continent, so it’s like saying Glasgow is in Europe.

Given the amount of vitriol spewed and the absolute unwillingness to let a human rights speaker be heard, it’s safe to say that this is one of the more important moments in the movement… so far.

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Justinian December 9, 2012 at 18:44

“Not surprised it happened in Toronto, one of the most left wing liberal places in North America.”

You foreigners really confuse me. I thought Toronto is in Canada ?

Do you use another name for the continent of North America?

Also when we people say “South America” they’re not typically referring to Dixie.

What is the name of the island on which the countries of England and Scotland are located?

Great Britain?

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Kurt December 9, 2012 at 20:00

Exactly what is needed to advance our agenda. NAFALT-video,NAFALT-video,NAFALT-video.

Every time we are interrupted in the pursuit of the public’s attention for the cause of justice, we can respond with a dose of what feminism is in the simple-to-digest video format,like splashing cold water over these mongrel curs. The feminists must admit their nature,in which case we may engage them with public support, or must shut up and whimper as we eviscerate their precious theories with logic, in which case we win the support of the intelligent and powerful in dismantling their movement at the locations and within the institutions which sustain it,such as the media,colleges, and Hollywood.

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jimbo December 9, 2012 at 20:54

The scene on the video was an exact copy of the scene at my catholic engagement encounter weekend retreat back in 1996. It was soon apparent to me that the whole weekend was going to be about conflict resolution. And I kept thinking to myself, “of course there is going to be conflict. There is going to be conflict because of the very obvious inference that there is to be no head of the family. So, having heard enough idiocy, a spoke up and asked the “leader/teacher/facilitator “is the man, the husband to have no seat at the head of the table?” In short, an absolute riot just like the one in Toronto ensued. The facilitator was able to gain control and forbid further “discussion” of the topic. When break time came, one man put his hands on my shoulders with his fiance next to him and told me, “you made some excellent points that make a lot of sense, but they are beyond the intellectual capacity of this group to understand.” And that is exactly true of a very large portion of the citizens of this rapidly declining and fragmenting country called America.

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Glenn December 9, 2012 at 21:44

The Men’s Rights Community should be leaping up and down, popping champagne, and dancing a jig because of this video. As a previous commenter wisely stated, bit by bit, the truth about feminism is being exposed. So much so that garden-variety females are now openly distancing themselves from the word “feminist”. We should begin a push to have Farrell speak each and every weekend for the next year just so we can get more of this kind of behavior on tape.

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greyghost December 9, 2012 at 21:47

Warren farrell must be a be a bad motha fucka.

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TFH December 10, 2012 at 01:25

Unsurprisingly, Manboobz Futrelle defends the spoiled, campus criminals, and tries to call Elam an “abuser” for exposing them. Meanwhile, he excuses their criminal, violent behavior.

So the very ugliest people at least stick together… I’ll give ‘em that.

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brigadon December 10, 2012 at 01:45

3dshooter-
I actually agree with you about Paul Elam. I apparently got on his ban list at AVFM when I pointed out that calling a closed boxcutter a ‘deadly weapon’ was the sort of whining exaggeration feminists are famous for, and undercuts his (rightful) rage at the great poster teardown by creepybittergirl, making her manginas seem like an army of holy warriors instead of the pathetic emo fan club that they really were.

Oh, and the delightful ‘fuck you’ at the end of his comment about me being a ‘fly in consideration troll newbie’ (and people know I have been both here and previously at inmalafide for several years.) was both funny and amazingly ignorant.

I appreciate the fact that he hosts, and continues to host, AVFM, but his childish enraged tantrums at other MRA’s are extraordinarily tedious and counterproductive. Even if we don’t agree on the most productive methods for getting the word out (he is into ‘peaceful nonviolence’ and I am into ‘leading by example’ and ‘provoking feminism to show their worst side’) or even the eventual goal (conservative versus socialist) About feminism we are ON THE SAME SIDE. Being a ‘dick’ to show someone the truth is a recognized andvalued tactic. Being a dick towards your own allies because they don’t embrace your personal ethics is fucking stupid.

I think he should step back and Let Dean Esmay do all his commenting and moderation, and stick to writing articles. His thought-out articles are often insightful to the point of brilliance, but his off-the-cuff responses are worse than Bill Cosby writing his own screenplay.

Frankly, I am pretty much done with AVFM. the radio program is pretty cool, but all the damned censoring is getting on my nerves, it’s like trying to post on Jezebel. Even the moderating HERE is a major pain in the ass for people that need to speak their mind.

Let the fempologists post whatever they want. We will tear them apart.

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Tom Smith December 10, 2012 at 07:01

There is a distinct irony here. Namely, the “patriarchy” has to protect these women to express their opinions- and in effect prohibit the exchange of ideas on a university campus.

The last time I checked the purpose of university education was to encourage a healthy conflict of ideas- and hence the students would develop their own views based on what they had heard on campus. When anything is “censored” or (in this case) protests prohibit one group or another from expressing an opinion, this is contrary to the purposes of a university.

No wonder men are dropping out of universities and colleges in droves.

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keyster December 10, 2012 at 08:19

It is not and never has been a cultural marxist or socialist plan it is simply womens nature on full tilt enabled by feminism.

And what pray-tell enabled feminism?
For the last 50 years women have been the largest “useful idiot” special interest group (indocrinated into the secular-progressive agenda) to destroy the culture from within (the nuclear family). Read Marcuse and Fromm, and you’ll get the connection Mr. North America.

It’s “women’s nature” to fall for such an insideous philosophy; that promises them “liberation” and “freedom” from men, while a larger government takes OUR place – by re-distributing our money to them. Their “need” our “ability”.

Feminism would have never gotten beyond a few street protests if it weren’t for wealthy and powerful socialist men, and the Cultural Marxist Egalitarian Utopia that they subscribed to.

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keyster December 10, 2012 at 08:28

“you made some excellent points that make a lot of sense, but they are beyond the intellectual capacity of this group to understand.”

The whole concept of “men” and “rights” flies right over the heads of 99% of the population. Although every day fewer and fewer are dismissing it as an “insane concept”. Feminism is slowly jumping the shark, thanks to the broad reach of the internet. They lose the debate wherever one is permitted to exist.

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Mike43 December 10, 2012 at 08:38

“With all due respect Mike any reaction they would consider violence.
The fact they didn’t get one has infuriated them.”

Having done this with strikers, I can tell you that the Police officers have been trained to deal with this situation. They practice it, the water, spitting, name calling. The officers are deliberately desensitized and are told to hold the line.

With troops, we remind them to be like Sparta or the Legions of Rome; hold your line, don’t react, do nothing until ordered, etc.

And it’s done deliberately to anger the mob, and deny them a reaction. You are right, it infuriates them, but you know what? Doing one of these with a group of well trained men is rather fun.

You just smile, smirk and watch them go nuts!!

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Kyo December 10, 2012 at 08:56

“The Men’s Rights Community should be leaping up and down, popping champagne, and dancing a jig because of this video.”

Agreed completely. As Napoleon might have said, never interrupt your enemy when she is making a mistake.

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oddsock December 10, 2012 at 09:29

Keyster

“Feminism would have never gotten beyond a few street protests if it weren’t for wealthy and powerful socialist men, and the Cultural Marxist Egalitarian Utopia that they subscribed to”

Behave yourself. The point is very clear. ANY government has dumped on men and I care not one jot about your right wing political ambitions and fairy tales. Perhaps best you keep them to AVf blue pill guys.

You, like any other so called MRA are trying to sell your political snake oil bull shit using mens suffering as a platform. You appear not only quite happy but take a pride in sending men to their death in pointless wars for the elite and who feckin cares what politcal label you want to hang on them. Men are getting shafted and you are trying to play the ” vote right wing” card. Its the only way bollocks bollocks blah blah bollocks. My feckin arse. Stick your right wing crap right up yer wazoo. Or as one of your own countrymen tried to tell you a while back. Keyster, take your head out of your ass !

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Sam December 10, 2012 at 09:30

Censoring someone doesn’t make them wrong, it just shows you’re afraid of what they might say.

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jimbo December 10, 2012 at 09:42

In some ways it is no doubt accurate to say that “feminism is slowly jumping the shark”, but it also seems to me that it would be accurate to say that it will never get over the shark. Sure, increasing numbers of men are rejecting feminists and feminism and dropping out, but men are not doing anything to effectively change its course or alter its progress, other than dropping out. And women on the other hand may be rejecting the more radical of feminist idiots and feminist idiocy, but, they aren’t coming close to rejecting the foundation on which feminism is spawned from and inevitably arises from. The beliefs that women are equal to men and that authority should therefore be shared and no discrimination tolerated. Both sexes are so far from believing this, that society will crumble before such truths are realized. In the long run, due to the nature of both sexes, male authority and discriminatory behavior are just as natural and just as necessary as breathing.

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oddsock December 10, 2012 at 09:43

brigadon 3dshooter

You are correct about the state of AVfM a great idea but sadly compromised. You also need to be aware that Keyster is the guy that does most censoring you will actually hear Paul Elam saying almost verbatim on a couple of the radio shows.

Keyster comes on here to sell his right wing bull shit censor free without trying to cause any upset and then runs back to AVfM.

He is playing good cop bad cop on the two sites.

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Jerry December 10, 2012 at 09:51

If this kind of feminist bitch behavior makes you angry, the best thing you can do is support the speaker by buying and reading his books. Here is a link: http://www.amazon.com/Myth-Male-Power-Warren-Farrell/dp/0425181448/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1355161761&sr=8-1&keywords=The+Myth+of+Male+Power

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oddsock December 10, 2012 at 11:21

Here you go Zed or anyone that is into motorbikes

Following on from the England Ireland Scotland comment

Here is a video of a place called the Isle of Mann ( very apt for this site )
Its in between England and the green floaty bit called Ireland

The TT races held every year the track is the main roads all around the Island. 200MPH Enjoy !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOuh6D5Q_4I&list=LLHF51ALgoLXm57LemWE8Ksg&index=22

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Mickey T December 10, 2012 at 11:39

I think this video is a great illustration of the superiority of male self control over female self control.
I personally (don’t go by me) don’t know how these guys do it.

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keyster December 10, 2012 at 12:00

Keyster comes on here to sell his right wing bull shit censor free without trying to cause any upset and then runs back to AVfM.

He is playing good cop bad cop on the two sites.

Does your predilection for far-fetched conspiracy theories know no bounds?

We of the top secret Illuminati know where you live.
We will not allow you to expose our agenda as feminist operatives.
If we can implode the World Trade Center without anyone finding out, we can certianly eliminate bothersome types such as yourself. Sleep in your closet tonight, if you must be home at all. Let this be fair warning.

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Days of Broken Arrows December 10, 2012 at 14:07

It would be a good idea for some of us to download that YouTube video (there is a program for this). That’s because the feminists in this video will probably lobby YouTube to take it down, claiming it constitutes some kind of “abuse” or “hate.” They’ve also been known to harass people who makes videos they disagree with, like GirlWritesWhat, which might intimidate whoever put this video up.

Anyway, if people download their own copies, they can put it back up if it gets taken down.

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Towgunner December 10, 2012 at 14:19

I watched this video too, probably barfed a few times in my mouth. Couple of take-aways:

1. This is how cowards act, they’re scared
2. Listening to the kid who knew of two of his friends who killed themselves…we are starting to take the moral high ground!

Lastly, take away the gender politics and all politics for that matter, compare the people here. I see the weak trying to dominate the strong. Physically, mentally, spiritually, those “protestors” are quite obviously pathetic people. No matter what, paradigms of the weak controlling the strong can’t last, in fact, from many angles its down-right impossible.

Believe it or not I felt a lot more optimistic about defeating feminism after watching this video and about the future for men.

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taxidriver December 10, 2012 at 14:50

Stop calling ‘em feminists. That’s what they call themselves.

These are communists. Plain and simple.

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T December 10, 2012 at 14:53

Those girls were out of control. They wouldn’t let in men who didn’t know what it was all about, but wanted to see.

IMPORTANT NOTE: Look how in- control those cops were. I wish the cops at the various Occupy events could control themselves that way.

Very professional, cool, calm and detached. I applaud the cops at this event!

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Mickey T December 10, 2012 at 15:13

Then again, a young woman repeatedly screaming “you are fucking scum” to some male chauvinst pig may make points to a lot voters. A lot of people like trash, as last Nov 6 is evidence.

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brigadon December 10, 2012 at 15:35

@oddsock-
Considering the ideologies involved, how can you NOT see the political divisions involved? I mean, feminism is all about entitlements, forced charity and economic redistribution, thought policing, censorship, consuming the individual for the good of the group, and aggressive victimhood, which is exactly the same thing socialism and cultural marxism is about. Maybe you cannot see conservatism and masculism being on the same side (I understand… self-determination means ten people have 100 different opinions) especially since ‘socon’ thought paired with socialist government has led to one of the most corrupt regimes in this century. but socialism and social liberalism is what maintains, sustains, and empowers male disenfranchisement and oppression. It virtually demands it.
Ideally, socialism would involve NO ‘victim’ class, and works to redress this. In reality, socialism demands a victim class, and demands that it be the majority, in order to continue pressuring achievers to support the underachievers. In a perfect world, ANY Government would also be perfect. In a real world, the trick lies in balancing the needs of the individual against the needs of the many, and the survival of civilization requires that neither interest gains too much weight over the other. Too much ‘social’ interest results in individual accomplishment being marginalized, and a nation is made of individuals… if you take away the individual will to succeed, you doom your civilization to stagnation and eventual dissolution as the underachievers drain all available resources. If you head too far in the individuality direction, your nation is at worst, complete anarchy, and at best, armed city-states. Individual accomplishment is destroyed or not disseminated for the growth of civilization which has essentially the same result of destroying any potential achievement.

Feminism is what happens when a nation tips too far in the direction of socialism. People become valued for what they ARE, instead of what they DO. Innate value is ascribed to humans regardless of their personal ability or achievement. And the victim-culture of feminism, namely an entire majority class based upon what they are (female) and not what they do, becomes irresistably appealing to those wishing to court power blocs for their own ends.

Manufacturers and retailers cannot court individualists, because their advertising cannot be customised to each of a billion individual. It simply makes fiscal sense for large corporate interests to encourage ‘groupthink’, as that minimizes their advertising expenses and maximizes their profits. This is not a conspiracy, this is good business. The greatest single bloc of ‘groupthinkers’ is women, thus it makes sense that the greatest boon to mass retail and advertising and maintaining political and fiscal power would be to cater to women. All women.

One of the reasons men’s rights have had such a rocky start is because men, in general, are individualists. It is why we succeed at invention, innovation, and production. This individualism, coupled with a strong backup of groupthink, enables growth on a personal and societal level. But, in enabling feminism, this ‘backup’ of groupthink has become the most powerful bloc in america. It is destroying individualists.

Feminism is the strong right arm of socialism. Without feminism, socialism is a blatantly artificial construct that cannot exist, because there is no ‘reward’ for the individual subscribing to socialism. Unless ‘charity’ in the form of socialism is institutionalized, feminism cannot exist. Females are groupthinkers, not generally individualists. How is logically deducing the incestuous intermarriage between the two political philosophies ‘right wing bullshit’?

That’s where the concept of ‘equality’ comes into play, and I don’t understand why this concept keeps getting batted around. How can there be ‘equality’ between a beehive and a bear? ‘Balance’ can be achieved, And I would think that would be a much better term for what is achievable and desired. Both social conservatism and social liberalism are required for appropriate balance.

I dislike true ‘socons’ not because of their philosophy, but because of their timing. Socialism has tipped the favor so far in favor of ‘professional victimhood’ that calls for the traditionally responsible class, men, to be even MORE responsible, are mistimed.

There have always been responsibilities on both men and women. Women have given or thrown away those responsibilities, while men have not. Much of my disgust for facets of the MRM is that instead of demanding that women take up those responsibilities that are a woman’s, they are demanding that MEN be permitted to give up responsibility as well. This is flat out stupid, since there will be no one left to ensure the continuity of civilization, and men are evolved to DO, not to simply ‘exist’. Responsibility is a big part of ‘doing’.

Every culture that absolves responsibility ends up being consumed by a younger, more vibrant culture that does NOT succumb to irresponsibility. In the current world, that culture is most likely islam. Many people try to conflate Islam with one side or the other, socialist versus individualist, liberal versus conservative, democrat versus republican, but it is not. It is the ‘barbarians’. Radical islam is a culture where each individual is expected to personally responsible to their family, their culture, and their god. I will not argue that radical islam is ‘evil’, but then again, my Angle and Saxon ancestors were probably considered just as evil and barbaric as they sacked Rome. Human history is a succession of old, anemic, corrupt, ‘humanistic’ cultures being destroyed by new, vibrant, individualistic, ‘evil’ cultures. Expecting that dynamic to change just because we have the internet is short-sighted.

Ignoring political reality in order to try and peel feminism out of it’s matrix of socialism, when both political philosophies transparently depend upon each other, is akin to throwing a blubbering tantrum because you cannot reach out and put the moon in your pocket. Is it any wonder that ‘new’ cultures (The thug culture, for example) are so hard to stamp out?

I see part of the MRM leaning in an encouraging direction. The MGTOW’s are discovering for themselves that as they discard the social mores of their parent nation, both their personal freedom and responsibility increase. I think that the social ostracism that they are recieving is a GOOD thing, as it prevents backsliding into nanny state dependence and discourages rejoin their parent culture. I see the MGTOW building new communities, free from the taint of broken vows and social constructs. And I believe that someday (I hope to see that day) when the old socialism starts to break apart, women will realize that these individualists are their only port in the storm. These are the only men that have learned to live apart from the dying nanny state. Even the ‘MGTOWS’ that do not recognize themselves as such (‘sovereign individuals’, ‘backwoodsers’, ‘polygamists’, ‘survivalists’, ‘doomsday preppers’) are building a culture, and my simple hope is that this culture will be strong enough to survive the destruction of the Nanny state and compete with radical religion.

Ignoring political ties does not make them go away.

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brigadon December 10, 2012 at 15:36

And once again, I write a comment that is over twice as long as the article itself. Heh.

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Opus December 10, 2012 at 15:57

Why is it that Canadian men are so nice, and their women so ghastly?

Oddsock needs an Atlas.

North America is a continent. Glasgow is (so I’m told) a dreadful place in a larger dreadful place called Scotland. Great Britain is the name of the island wherein Glasgow is situate (to distinguish it from Brittany (not Spears) which is I think in France.

England however is a kingdom metaphysically situate about fifty miles off the east coast of the United States. England controls all of Great Britain, half of Ireland and various other islands doted around Great Britain (such as the mentioned Isle of Man and some nearer to France). God being too busy to micromanage has appointed Elizabeth Windsor as a corporation sole to control all this and a multitude of Overseas Territories (formerly Crown Colonies) and other places called Crown Dependencies and Canada is part of it. The sun has never been known to set on any of this.

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oddsock December 10, 2012 at 16:24

brigadon

Ok , no problem, vote away until your hearts content. Its worked wonders for years. Cause this time it will be different. Keyster said so.
Just follow him. Its amazing so many people still believe in the political system.

Opus. I was taking the piss old bean. You have been around cockneys too much.

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Mickey T December 10, 2012 at 16:38

“It’s amazing so many people believe in the political system”

How the f*** do you think we got here??

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oddsock December 10, 2012 at 16:47

Here you go brigadon have a listen to this. Who do you vote for ?

Right-wing politics … another bastion of misandry .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHxlPowds6c

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oddsock December 10, 2012 at 17:15

Micky T

“How the f*** do you think we got here??”

By believing the f*** left right bull shit will somehow help men!!

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Charles Martel December 10, 2012 at 18:31

brigadon
@oddsock-
Considering the ideologies involved, how can you NOT see the political divisions involved?

oddsock’s in the UK where left/right political differences are hopelessly entangled in the odious British class system. This, I believe, is at the root of oddsock’s differences with keyster. Americans who don’t have direct experience with the British class system don’t really grasp how conservative versus liberal politics don’t map well onto the UK’s Conservative and Labour parties.

However, oddsock has a point and any faith American men put in the Republican party is badly misplaced. It should be abundantly clear by now that Republicans and Democrats offer men the exact same gigantic shit sandwich with only minor variations in the side dishes offered.

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Norm December 10, 2012 at 18:35

oddsock December 9, 2012 at 17:52

Norm

“Not surprised it happened in Toronto, one of the most left wing liberal places in North America.”

You foreigners really confuse me. I thought Toronto is in Canada ?

Thats like saying Glasgow is in Northern England.

I live in Canada. I said TO. is in North America which Canada is part of, as is the USA and Mexico. Then there is South America. The US is often called “America”, but there is no such country called that. Don’t believe me, check an atlas. Have a good one.

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Mickey T December 11, 2012 at 00:20

RE:Nov 10,2012 17:05

Your not making sense, Oddsock.
Men were, and most still are oblivious to how it happened, let alone “left right bullshit” The feminist arm of the left WORKED FOR THEM.

How the f*** did they believe ANYTHING?? They never knew what was happening and what was coming!! The left WORKED for feminists.

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oddsock December 11, 2012 at 03:45

Micky T

They. f*** believed ANYTHING the left or right told them and voted accordingly. Turkey’s voting for christmas or thanksgiving.

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Towgunner December 11, 2012 at 06:27

@ brigadon:

Excellent post…too much to cover

“And the victim-culture of feminism, namely an entire majority class based upon what they are (female) and not what they do, becomes irresistably appealing to those wishing to court power blocs for their own ends.”

Great quote. This needs to be repeated over and over. Every time “they” create another illusion of female supremacy, one only has to remember this. At the root of feminism is victimhood, which from a very un-PC, yet true, perspective is a status of inferiority and weakness. Individuals are strong because they have the courage to do what they want regardless of what other people or our culture thinks. Compare this with women, who constantly seek approval even for the littlest things, reference shows like oprah. women are groupthink, they are herd creatures, forget about the outliers for a second, the evidence of this is overwhelming.

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C.T. West December 11, 2012 at 07:04

If anything, these feminists did as all a favour. How often are young men treated like this by women? Usually, if a video is taken of a male being verbally or physically assaulted by a female, people complain that the video lacks context and ask “what did he do to deserve it.”

What we have here is very special. A video of women attacking men that they had never met only because they assumed these men to be evil with no legitimate evidence to support their assumption.

It was a good night for Canada and the Western world.

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Mickey T December 11, 2012 at 10:21

oddsock,
OMT, I’m really weary of dueling with you on this. If you want to make a meaningful contribution to what could be a strong Men’s Rights Movement, I make the following suggestion:

Get on every feminist blog you can find, tell them of your political views, and convince them that basically all MRM men share same views. We can then prepare to pounce on an unsuspecting enemy. Voila!! You’ve made your political contribution.

Listen, old man, I believe there are many unfortunate younger men who listen to you, but you just don’t understand that the only way to leave this prison, is the same way we got here. Use your influence wisely.

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oddsock December 11, 2012 at 11:11

Mickey T

What ? I had no idea we were ever “duelling”, banter with a POV perhaps ? For some years I have argued with Keyster and admired a great many of his posts, that’s is, the ones in which he does not try to blame the global misandry on some imaginary wealthy cultural marxist plot. To me that is just absurd even ridiculous.

I am not sure but do I detect a veiled compliment. To be frank I doubt very much that there are plenty of young men listening to me but if you are correct? I at least hope they have allowed themselves to grow and no longer afraid to question old school thinking. As we know, they have been silenced long enough.

I stopped posting on feminist web sites a long time ago. You just can’t get past such deep programming. But just maybe, I planted a few seeds of doubt ?

Micky mate. I wish I had a tenth of the influence you seem to think I have. I simply wish for a better life for all men regardless of nationality colour or religion and do what I can in my own way and what I believe to be the best way forward.

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Feminist_Nullificationist December 11, 2012 at 14:34

These people show up at a peaceful Warren Farrell event on the U of T campus to further their witch-hunting of the male sex. “Witch-Hunting Males” at Youtube http://tinyurl.com/65dpzwu is born out of the misandry conducted by hate movements like feminist, U of T hate movement shown in the above video.

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Attila December 14, 2012 at 21:02

Mostly dogs, glad they won’t be reproducing.

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Amber Taylor December 17, 2012 at 14:50
Josh the Aspie December 21, 2012 at 00:41

I’d like to preemptively apologize for any slips that have worked their way in below. I’m currently replying shortly before blearily heading to bed, so I acknowledge that this is unlikely to be one of my best replies.

On the topic of the confluence of misandry and conservatism, there is misandry in conservative circles.

While I like, and read a large number of articles on townhall.com, I ran across one just now that I find it difficult just to finish, due to how quickly, and easily the misandry comes out.

Heroic mothers are dealing with aggressive=violent boys! We are brooking domestic terrorism of mothers out of love, that we wouldn’t otherwise brook!

It’s vomitous.

http://townhall.com/columnists/maggiegallagher/2012/12/20/when-science-doesnt-count-n1470778

Even S.E. Cupp, who is on the ball on some issues, and has been lambasted left and right by feminists… had a WTF moment over the idea of adding protections for men to the possible re-authorization of VAWA.

The problem is that misandry has become a part of our culture as a whole, and we need to work to overcome it in all quarters. Presuming that it doesn’t exist in conservative areas is as foolish as the idea that there is not a large cohort that calls itself conservative, but is in fact statist.

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