Institutionalism and the Growing Class Divide

by W.F. Price on November 14, 2012

One of the striking social differences I’ve noticed since I was a child is a profound change in the way neighbors relate to each other, and a creeping sense of alienation that has come to characterize urban America. Robert Putnam described it in his book Bowling Alone, which details the collapse of community in the US. Charles Murray explored another, related aspect of the issue in his book Coming Apart, which focuses on the social decline of white America.

The change, which I had the opportunity to witness first-hand in the neighborhood I was born in, hasn’t involved the physical replacement of people like me or my family (although the fact that so many fled probably added to it), but rather the decline of the social institutions and communities to which we formerly belonged, hence the feeling of alienation. It isn’t so much that new communities have taken their place and pushed people out, but rather that communities as we once knew them do not exist any longer. Except for a few associations such as golf clubs at the very top of society – the so-called 1% – there is precious little left for anyone, and even less, it seems, for young families than others. So, although I may feel the loss a little more keenly as a native, in truth this feeling of not belonging is the norm amongst urban Americans, and probably contributes a good deal to the childlessness of cities.

Putnam’s studies found that the decline in social trust is directly associated with an increase in diversity, but I don’t think that’s necessarily the cause, because while diversity may decrease social trust between groups it often intensifies in-group cooperation, and in days past led to a lot of ethnic associations of one sort or another. In the early 20th century immigrants and natives alike formed their own fraternal orders, sports leagues and churches. But somewhere along the way, participation in communal endeavors began to lag, and has petered out to an abysmally low level today.

After giving this matter some thought, I think I’ve come up with a something that could explain part of this trend.

In the postwar era, the US became a very institutionally oriented society. More so than any other country on earth. Finishing high school became the norm after WWII, and then more and more people went on to college. By the year 2000, American adults had the highest average length of education of any country, and have only barely been surpassed in recent years by Norway and New Zealand. If it weren’t for millions of uneducated recent immigrants, we’d probably still have the top spot.

Since the 1960s, institutional participation – especially in school – has become synonymous with social participation, and increasingly with social rank as well. Despite its benefits, extended education takes time and effort that could be spent elsewhere. It also shapes behavior, creating a model for work and community early in life, as well as expectations regarding progress and rewards, and it indoctrinates people, giving them a sense of what’s proper and what is not. Finally, and importantly, it separates people according to ability and interest. It is not an institution that brings people together, but rather one that filters and arranges them according to talent, habits, work ethic and other factors.

White American adults are probably the most educated demographic the world has seen, having spent a greater amount of time in school than any other people on earth. The American upper middle class, which could fairly be called the dominant class in the US today, probably has northwards of 16 years of school per individual (as opposed to the average of 12.5). We have created an institutional class, and it is the impersonal, formal institution that has taken the place of the civic organization for this new institutional overclass.

While I don’t know exactly what this shift from social, community-based institutions to formal institutions portends for the future, it makes sense that as more participation in formal institutions is required, there will be less in the civic sort that build social capital. Hence less church attendance, fewer bowling leagues, fewer fraternal clubs, etc.

It seems as though this would lead inevitably to more social stratification, as participation in professional or academic institutions is more exclusive and restrictive than participation in community organizations. For example, while you may have a trucker and a doctor at the same church social function, you certainly aren’t going to find them at the same symposium on new enzyme inhibitors.

So, where people used to be joined in fellowship and community spirit, today collegiality prevails, and we have Putnam and Murray scratching their heads trying to figure out why there’s a growing rift between the classes.

What I’d say to Murray in particular is that it isn’t so much that the upper classes are preaching the wrong message; it’s that they are simply absent from the lives of others except in their professional capacity. People will say whatever they think will appease whatever group is loudest and most obnoxious, but I highly doubt a physician would tell fellow parishioners that their daughters should sleep around and abort the results. No, if well-to-do professionals actually lived, socialized and prayed amongst the humbler sorts, they’d adapt their messages to take their needs and behavior into account. It isn’t the values these people are preaching — it’s that they occupy an entirely different universe.

But at this point I’m not sure much can be done about the problem. Perhaps, as societies grow increasingly complex, institutions must follow suit, and erosion of social capital is inevitable. This may be a major factor in the cycle of the rise and fall of nations; while Genghis Khan would drink and ride with the common horsemen who fought and died to build an empire, his grandson Kublai had time only to administer the affairs of state. Kublai’s grandchildren couldn’t even properly mount a horse, and wouldn’t have been able to relate to a Mongol herdsman at all.

So perhaps the epidemic of single motherhood and bad choices amongst the lower classes today is as much a result of being isolated from people who behave responsibly as anything else, and that isolation is a result of a society increasingly stratified by institutional selection and filtering. Maybe it’s time to rethink our emphasis on institutional achievement. In these lean times, it’s something worth considering.

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Zorro November 14, 2012 at 13:25

If there are any Freemasons here, I would be fascinated to hear what they have to say on if and how fraternalization within that organization would promote inter-class cohesion as re this post. The Blue Lodge strikes me as particularly adept in eliminating class rift.

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Poiuyt November 14, 2012 at 13:30

Yes but whom else but we ourselves gave officious cops and other Statist authorities these intrusive powers to control us with, because we prefer and trust them more than we trust ourselves as free individuals ? That is with rights to consent, to not consent, to agree, to disagree etc etc.

It is our own ill intent and general bad will for each other -really the next man- that has lead us down this miserable path to a Police and Authoritarian State where we have better trust in the subjection of the authorities and the police. Militarized, bureaucratic authorities with the following powers to abuse and misuse peoples whom have totally forgotten what it means to be free :

1.
To pry into and to question our daily walks and talks with our kids, family members and work colleagues-especially if they are female.

2.
To maliciously, mischievously and constructively probe our spouses at the health clinic or dentists for allegations of domestic violence, even that which the may themselves be committing.

3.
To confiscate properties, pensions, savings and any monies from bank accounts and employers to redistribute to female family members or strangers. That is on the basis that if a woman sees or imagines she has seen anything belonging to men then she constructively owns it.

4.
To set our domestic and family budget and personal commitments by transferring property and income to ex-spouses and lovers in the contrived name of children or women’s rights.

Yet with all these bestiaries, over-thefts, absurdities and humiliations to men and to children going on, some queer minds are still able to stand up and boast of it all as a mark of better civilization.

We have a lot to learn from other peoples in the east and south, whom foolishly and carelessly sowed similar ill-winds, only to then reap the dervish of damnation and destruction onto their own societies.

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K November 14, 2012 at 13:42

Whilst NZ has one of the highest level of education in terms of years, recent reports indicate that it also has the lowest return to university study in terms of subsequent income. The education stats are also distorted by tradesmen moving to Australia where they can earn a lot more.

In terms of institutions like sports clubs here, the increase in working hours has worked against participation, as did the introduction of weekend trading (in my youth only supermarkets, petrol stations and dairies were open on the weekend). Twilight social leagues seem to have increased in the younger age groups, perhaps at the expense of more competitive organised sport – and probably for the same reason of time commitments. All-in-all it seems that the workplace more than anything else is cannibalising other institutions.

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American November 14, 2012 at 13:50

The majority of White America is now in the “Broken Patriarchy” status that was just the Black man 30 years ago.
The question for me remains…. Who’s doing the “breaking of the patriarchies”, and why?
What are the effects of long term “Broken patriarchy”??? and is it sustainable???
What are the mechanisms/ manfactured statistics/ constructions that are erroneous and still being force fed onto the masses???
By the way Pierce, excellent article…pieces like this are what make the spearhead the av-ante Guard!!!

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American November 14, 2012 at 13:52

By the way, Isn’t this how foreign enemies of the United States are treated…They are beaten into a matriarchy??? Why is it happening here, and who is funding it???

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piercedhead November 14, 2012 at 13:57

It’s an interesting proposition, and it is consistent with something else that is at work.

Society – for want of a better word – is evolving in sophistication, much like a living organism. That means ‘organs’ are developing – organs made up of specialist cells that do one specific kind of work, and cannot do any of the other specialist work for which other specialist cells are dedicated. Same specialist cells keep together, while differing specialist cells are kept apart.

The ‘organs’ are, of course, what we popularly call ‘class’, and the specialist cells are us.

Both politically and personally, we are witnessing the decline of individuals that accompanies the erection of the great specialist state. Along with it we lose our sense of commonality with all other individuals, as well as the ability to do much for ourselves other than the narrow range of tasks to which we have dedicated our lives.

My father’s generation – that born in the early twentieth century – were much closer to the land. They could turn their hand to anything because they often had to, and they learned much because they were expected to help in a whole range of tasks. They were much more socially oriented, because it was just part of their life – forming fraternities came naturally with their background.

Compare that to now, where most of us live isolated lives dependent wholly on the greater health of the state organism, where no-one needs our help, we don’t expect theirs, and so many once daily activities for our very sustenance are outside of our immediate reach.

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Mr.J November 14, 2012 at 14:19

As soon as people became individually “successful”, they went in debt to the hilt to buy the most expensive house they could borrow for to show everyone “who they were” and this was, of course, away from everyone “lower”…Affluenza.

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Joeb November 14, 2012 at 14:50

One person can be controlled ,10 may become a group , 1000 is a movement . Don’t want non of that stuff while your trying to enslave 30% . Two classes will evolve Goverment workers then the rest of us .
I think Huxley’s Brave new world covers this .
God it would be nice to go to the park with friends and family without five police showing up to check your drinks and frisking your freinds .
Bowling for Columbine , We see it coming little at a time then ignor it .
Just go to work and be happy . Should be played over all the load speakers,on the air and in the streets .
Move along in a orderly fasion , STOP take your pill , Move along again .

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Tam the Bam November 14, 2012 at 14:56

My father (and grandfathers) were close to the land, but beyond dealing immaculately with animals, the repair of broken gear, vehicles/boats or buildings, and being as strong as beasts and good at tackling and running, or taking orders and running into machine-guns, well they were pretty much all at sea when things didn’t go according to plan.

Couldn’t cook worth a damn (endless list of things they “couldn’t” eat too, starting with spices and ending in vegetables, actually fearful of non-shop foods like mushrooms), couldn’t roughly darn/patch ripped clothes even if out in the woods, couldn’t hunt without a gun, or three, folded up like damp rags if they ran out of (pipe) tobacco, and their vehicles could be “mended” with a lump hammer and some carborundum paste, and a bit of carpentry. Much like their buildings.

They had to get married, or they’d have starved and gone unwashed and ragged once their mothers died. And if their wives carked it (not unusual), they either got remarried or the kids got put out to foster, as they had not the tiniest clue about that, either, and the kids would have died.
I have well practised basic-level skills in a range and quality they could not even comprehend. Including most of theirs (OK I can’t shoe a horse or make a sound cartwheel, but I bet I could eventually if forced to). So do most of my mates. As for the specialisms .. we’d be like intergalactic aliens to them. I know I am to my dad!
Paid their rents and taxes uncomprehendingly, never “followed the money”.
And never, ever, not once did I hear any one of them actually question Authority, even if it had meant their hideous deaths. Of course they grumbled constantly, but deference was totally ingrained in them. Especially hung on every word printed in the papers and barked over the “wireless”.
His Master’s Voice, it was gospel, and that was that. Vote for the Government! You Know It Makes Sense. Keep Calm And Carry On.
Nauseating.
They would have called it “community” if they’d known such a big word. They’d sooner have died than go against it, no matter how insane the herd got. Reputation was all.

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Pirran November 14, 2012 at 15:01

Echoing your point, perhaps the state just can’t survive over a certain size when it reaches a certain level of development.

It’s interesting to note that over the last 40 years, The Soviet Union, The EU and now The US have started to unravel. China and India are still on the rise as developing / near 1st world states, but even there we can start to see the strains. There is increasing frustration in China over the role of the state from the burgeoning middle class (and unspoken terror at the thought of the masses without jobs or prospects). Who knows where that will lead over the next 50-100 years?

Texas et al might be on to something with their desire to secede. It might be their only viable long-term future.

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keyster November 14, 2012 at 15:57

…and we have Putnam and Murray scratching their heads trying to figure out why there’s a growing rift between the classes.

Thus it began with the Counter-Culture movement in the 60′s, to tear down Traditionalism (dominated by patriarchy) and replace it with post-modern moral relativism. The Establishment vs. the Hippies. Old school vs. Progress. God vs. Self. Our current state of affairs and leadership is the culmination of the “Me Generation”. The Us generation died with the WWII/Depression generation.

We’ve never in our history been more divided by class, gender and race. There is no such thing as cooperation among individuals anymore. It’s done through the government as middle man/overseer. We don’t trust each other, we suspect and scrutinize behavior as malevolent. I’ve tried to talk to my neighbors but they’re all idiots. My friends are obsessed with college sports on Saturday and pro sports on Sunday. It’s all they understand.

Teddy Roosevelt to Wilson to FDR to LBJ to Obama; the secular-progressive/socialist movement has broken through permanently this time and there’s no turning it back. One third of the country is happy, another third is not and there’s a whole other third that has no idea what just happened and what it will mean.

Tearing down the defenseless privilaged white male class, fomenting discontent among women and minorities, that it was HE who held them back – – was the long term strategy using academia and the media as the persistent messenger. Let the special identifiable groups rule writ-large, and wish them success in ther endeavors to transform America to second world status among nations. Watch how China with Russia, sensing weakness, makes their move into global dominance. The world will remember a time when there were no wars started by tyrants, no invasions without the threat of American military might coming to bear…such as Syria right now. “Where is America?” they ask, while thousands of innocents die. “We can barely tend to our own needs, let alone yours”, we respond.

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minuteman November 14, 2012 at 16:05

You maybe right about the results of alienation, your ideas seem reasonable. The cause of it is the invention of television. The internet is only going to make things worse. I am a mason, many of my brothers have been masons for over 50 years. We were talking about how 50 years ago the lodge had hundreds of members, and now it has dozens. One of the old men stated that putting hockey on TV was what killed the lodge.

Before TV people would join these organizations because it gave them an opportunity to do something for entertainment. Now when people get home from work they take to the keyboard or crash in front of the TV. Before those options were available, sitting at home in a dark, cold quiet house would get pretty boring.

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Troll King November 14, 2012 at 16:32

Interesting that you write this article. I was thinking about something along the same lines just yesterday.

I think it has more to do with the alienation of boys and men in society than anything else. Every chance a boy or man has to relate in a masculine way to other men and even women has been ripped apart through the feminization of America. You mention churches, I took my grandmother to church last week. Not counting the 65+ men there wasn’t a single man in my age range other than the young priest. There were about 20 or so married men of Gen X age sitting with their wives but that is out of a congregation of over 150.

The only males in the church were under 10. One single mom was sitting in front of me and my grandma with her 8 or 10 year old boy. My grandma started a conversation with them and asked the boys name. This single mother had named her son Skylar. I mean damn. The boy has the same name as the irrational and entitled bitch of a wife from Breaking Bad.

It isn’t just about church though, as an atheist I could care less about that.

There is no social or communal element that boys are expected or allowed to compete in that are male geared. Boys get the message early on that they are not wanted or cared for by our educational system so they don’t just drop out at increasing rates from education, they know they need some education to make a living.

I think what we are seeing is boys dropping out from society at large even before they drop out of education. If you look up the stats or talk to people that are oriented with things like charities and other types of communal involvement then you will see that by and large men are no where to be found.

So, where are the men? Some are creating or joining their own tribes, they are called gangs. Most are simply sitting it out.

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Troll King November 14, 2012 at 16:33

Lol. Sometimes feminists just make me fuckin laugh.

http://feministing.com/2012/11/14/gender-neutral-restrooms-are-every-bodys-business/#more-55010

To think that bitches like this are the ones controlling government and what not. Damn, I need to stock up on canned goods cause the collapse can’t be that far off.

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El Bastardo November 14, 2012 at 16:34

I think you might really be on to something here. Although; maybe not? It is a hard thing to nail down in my mind. Genghis Khan may have spent time with the horde he led; but he still had his own tents while others shared a tent. Realistically he was still royalty. I think the thing you might be missing is all about leadership needing to “be in the field.” I truly believe this.

As the proverb goes: Where the leaders lack vision, the people parish.

Right now; with the internet closing down traditional stores, colleges, to some hospital staff ( a doctor can perform highly advanced surgery from the other side fo the planet); even the likes of shoe stores and clothing, to pharmacists, to human resource departments; business (both personal and professional) has become highly specialized. For example; why have a master tailor when all you need is someone to think up the design and have a machine make it?

Unlike any other time I sense we are in a great migration pattern that may have never been done before. So I agree with you on the specialization via outsourcing. The masses lack the direct representation of a good-great example of what human beings can accomplish in most cases. They have never met these amazing individuals in person; we only see exceptional peopple when we achieve it ourselves. We don’t look to find local leaders; when we can watch youtube or order the leaders books online. The printed word in digital, or paper form is so much easier to aquire today. Yet the personable touch is missing.

Leadership itself is now institutionalized rather than developed locally. We now get large areas where people travel to or not, if they decide to take courses or meetings online altogether. The bigger colleges are going to get physically bigger while the bottom feeder colleges like Phoenix might keep getting smaller. It will be interesting to see where this all leads in the job market. Yet still, a computer screen is no subsititute for personality. For touching, talking, recognizing a loved one’s or colleague’s movements.

Also, you can almost go your whole life without meeting anyone now if you wish. This sort of technological growth, and societal breakdown cannot continue forever I sense. Unless society itself changes from its esire for a more personable course.

It is as if the whole species of the human race will have to adapt to machines. A digital hyper awareness. Like a singularity but more practical. With cell phones, WiFi, 3G-4G tech expanding; along with the further miniaturization of electronics people of the future might be very different if they become wholly adapted to the environment growing all around us; we truly take our time for granted since we see it everyday. Therefore; we have been failing to see what we have lost in the personability department.

We have “outsourced” truly getting to know one another. Short of a matrix style loading of information on how to do anything and everything we will be required to change our personability strategies. A general now can command all our forces from a single location thousands of miles away; thereby reducing his personal stake in “his men’s lives.” He is not as invested in them; as they more and more become a number that needs be replaced after deaths, or routine rotations.

If we can become so casual about death and war; we have to assume this will transcend the normal human landscape.

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Troll King November 14, 2012 at 16:38

I can’t even get angry today. Feminists are so…. funny in a way. I guess the word I am looking for is pathetic. Bitches like Jill from feministe think they can shame and mock men until we fall in line but it won’t work. It just has me laughing.

So, let me say this. As a guy in my 20 I love me some bitches. I like em on their knees with cum on their face. I like em in the kitchen making a sammich. What I can’t stand are girls. You know who they are. They are in their 20s and refer to themselves as girls. They refer to their girlfriends by pet monikers that are usually reserved and used by boyfriends. They get drunk nightly in most cases at TGIF and similar restaurants while discussing Mad Men and Girls and pop culture with their upper middle class cunty gfs from college….blah blah blah…

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/nov/14/dude-or-dudebro-ten-ways-to-tell

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Justin November 14, 2012 at 16:48

What you are describing is what i learned as anomie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anomie

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oddsock November 14, 2012 at 17:10

Keyster

Listen mate I have tried in every way possible to explain to you get the message across etc. It does not matter one iota who you vote for.

You can scream tin foil hat Nutter at me all you want. It has feck all to do with Socialism or Cultural Marxism. It is quite simply Globalism. The powers that be are moving the western world into low wage state dependency for the vast majority of the populace. It is feckin happening right before your eyes it is incredibly obvious and yet you still cling desperately to your fake ideology and beliefs. You even tried to convince many men to vote republican as the best party for men ? You are having a feckin Giraffe.

I hope at the very least the election result removed your head from the sand, at least just enough to peak at reality for a second or two.

P.s. No I am not having a go at you I am simply trying to wake you up.

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scatmaster November 14, 2012 at 17:14

It has been happening for awhile I believe Welmer.
Moved into a new neighborhood about 25years ago.
The neighbor said to my mother “I will have to have you in for coffee”.
Three years later when the moving van was packing up our things to move to another city the same neighbor came out and I kid you not said
“I meant to have you over for coffee”. Not a recent event IMO.

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anoncoward November 14, 2012 at 17:59
Jaego November 14, 2012 at 18:00

Yes agree. Let’s carefully distinguish between natural decline due to stratification, complexity, decadence – and the planned demolition that has been unleashed on us. We are being transitioned to be part of the North American Union and from there to Global Goverment. The United States as a Nation must be broken for any of that to happen.

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Anonymous Reader November 14, 2012 at 18:14

Welmer
White American adults are probably the most educated demographic the world has seen, having spent a greater amount of time in school than any other people on earth.

Don’t confuse education with training. One of the most educated men I ever knew had little formal education, but had read widely of the best classics for decades. On the other hand, I work with people who have 20+ years of schooling who can’t explain the plot of the Iliad, who have never read Milton or Dante or Fenimore Cooper. They don’t know who Homer was, and until a few years ago they would not have known who the 300 Spartans were.

They have a great deal of training in an ever narrower niche, and utterly no knowledge of the history, art, literature and culture of their own civilization. They are technopeasants.

I repeat: do not confuse training with education. “TIME” magazine famously called the Boomers the “best educated generation in history” back around 1968. That was nonsense, and the history since then proves it.

I won’t even start on numeracy, and how much it is lacking. I’ll just point out the college educated woman I encountered the other day who was incapable of telling time except via digital (decimal) clock. She has a degree in something or other, 16 years of school, and she cannot look at a dial with two hands pointing in different directions & figure out the time of day.

Education is sorely lacking in this country. Training, on the other hand, is everywhere. Increasingly I feel as though I am surrounded by Pavlov’s dogs (another reference many kollidge grads don’t understand).

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brigadon November 14, 2012 at 19:33

I keep hearing the persistent refrain of ‘China has a growing economy’, and ‘China is succeeding while the rest of us go to hell’.

I think that some of you need to really take a look at China’s socio-economic situation, it might cause you to revise your opinions somewhat.

China’s economic success is directly based upon parasitic relationships with other economies, primarily the US. Right now they appear to be on the upswell, the same way maggots start to feed upon a freshly-dead corpse and thrive… the problem is, that the US has been parasitised by nearly every nation on earth for a dozen decades, one of the reason we are in the ruinous state we are in now.

The problem is, the death of the American economy will be followed, more quickly than you can believe, by the death of other economies, including China. There’s a great network of trading that has been going on, at which America has sat at the center, getting bled by both it’s own parasitic corporate offspring and by virtually every country we are in contact with.

So please do not point at china as an example of economic growth… It is in a very similar economic state to the soviet union in the eighties… socialism is NOT an efficient or even a workable economic model. China was simply smart enough during the 90′s to start courting the US corporate interests instead of allowing itself to collapse the way the Russian empire did, a policy which has stood them in good stead. The problem is that the lamprey latched onto a dying whale… and there are no other whales left.
Despite it’s downgraded credit rating, America is the only country that still HAS the capability to run an independent economy… No one dares to call in America’s debt, because they have No. Other. Option. Once this whale is gone, that’s the end of the food chain for the forseeable future, no one else has the ability to become the new food source.

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Jimbo November 14, 2012 at 19:44

… all men are created equal… equal starts having new meaning after civil war… men of the nation complacent enough in 1920 to grant women the right to vote. Over time, this induces women to believe they should share authority with men in marriage. Which, in time, predictably brought about marital anarchy leading to marital warfare leading to marital misery and a fifty percent divorce rate, and now a growing number of people who do not want to get married. Simultaneously, women wanted an equal say in shaping society. The leaders of women, went about doing this by building hatred and resentment towards men as a means to raise the hackles of women and motivate women to use their anger, guilt inducing wiles and non-stop bitching to effectively silence dissent. They owed much of their success to the help from the anti-white, anti-heterosexual, anti-christian, anti-capitalistic, anti-male coalition they built. With the first Clinton election, (the existence of large numbers of manipulated male feminists in positions of power giving the appearance of patriarchy notwithstanding) it could be said we became a matriarchy as women controlled what would, could and couldn’t be said and taught in elementary school, high school, academia, the mass media, church on Sunday and in all three White branches of government. But, with this last election, the true meaning of demographic changes are going to become realized by feminists. Our know it all women are going to find out that Blacks, Hispanics and Asians are going to be the dominant forces in the coalition and that their Black, brown and yellow members (male or female) could give a shit about the interests of white women. Feminists might think back to the blacks dancing in the street in celebration because O.J. was acquitted. Why? Because the man and woman he murdered were white. As the creature comforts of white women diminish and their protection is less protective, they will look to white males, or men of other races to protect and provide for them. Either way, they will prostitute themselves. If whites survive at all, we are going to have only a very small piece of the rock we once dominated. Quite a price to pay to learn a lesson that we should have already learned. Attempting to share authority with women brings misery for all and is a deadly mistake. John Adams new it and simply told his wife, “we know better”. Women and power don’t mix anymore than different races do. As biologist E. Raymond has said, “To imagine one subspecies of man living together on equal terms for long with another subspecies is but wishful thinking and leads only to disaster and oblivion for one or the other.”

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3DShooter November 14, 2012 at 20:16

I live in a small town in podunk Idaho – by choice for the very reason’s you’ve touched on. And though I commute to our only city of any relevance to work, I wouldn’t live there. I like knowing my neighbors and talking with them – and joining them for an occasional game of golf. When I go to the grocery store many of the checker’s call me by name and chat, they ask about my kids – I’m not anonymous here, but just a few mile further down the road I am.

In a small town there is a sense of community, the sense of community that leaves that empty feeling in those who live in concrete jungle’s no doubt feel. A year or so ago one of the clerks at one of the two convenience stores had an extreme medical condition and there were donation jars and a community auction to help her out. On July 4th we have a local parade and the fire department breaks out the pump trucks and hoses drown the onlookers at the ‘wet’ corner in town.

That’s what we’ve lost . . . It still exists, but increasingly only in places of declining opportunity and that is a shame. It almost seems as if the trade-off for opportunity is giving up on community. Feminism and destruction of the family via the kangaroo family kourts have only accelerated the process.

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Bollocks! November 15, 2012 at 00:20

New forms of community are popping up. Just go to meetup.com. I’ve forged lasting friendships there, what to speak of creating community gardens, learning perma-culture and hydro-ponics, and a whole host of other self-sufficient skills mostly involving the growth and preparation of food.

Want to return to the land? Grow food instead of a yard. Don’t have a yard? Plant an indoor vertical garden. The possibilities are endless. You guys here just make more and more excuses for being miserable slackers.

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Ode November 15, 2012 at 02:17

… all men are created equal…

That is one of the greatest lies of the 20th century.
People are born with different abilities.
Some may cry foul and claim I wish to create a socially stratified society where people’s life outcome get predetermined at birth.
Delicate cough isn’t that how society already is? Or at least the probability of a person’s life outcome. Jews on average have 3 times the networth compared to whites. Asians make up 12% of the population in California but they make up 50% of the incoming freshman class at prestigious universities like Stanford and Berkeley. Blacks make up 12% of the population but 50% of the prison population. The median Latino household has a networth of only $10,000 where as white people have $100,000.

Only a fool would believe Obama when he said, very forcefully, there is not a white America, a black America, a Latino America ….there is only a “United States of America.” Sometimes I wonder does he actually believe in what he says or maybe it just sounded like a nice thing to say, to win an election.

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Tam the Bam November 15, 2012 at 03:54

I’ve tried to talk to my neighbors but they’re all idiots. My friends are obsessed with … sports .”
LOL Keyster. If I didn’t know there were thousands of miles of ocean between us, I’d be a nailed-on cert. for being one of the simpletons you live near.
Thing is, in order to reduce timewasting and endless shooting the breeze when out and doing, I have carefully cultivated (strictly locally) the reputation of being an (amiable, penniless) idiot.
I also make a point of buffing up my sports “knowledge” before leaving the house, so as to have plenty of ammo to deflect bores and moochers, without antagonizing them unnecessarily. Counter-tediousness, it’s the way forward.

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Avenger November 15, 2012 at 05:42

The median Latino household has a networth of only $10,000 where as white people have $100,000.

Net worth is like every asset you own minus debt. I’m pretty sure that about 20% of the people have a 0 or negative net worth. Then there a pretty big group that has a tiny net worth of a few thousand.I’ll have to look up the data, don’t know what it currently is but I’d guess that the typical female with $50k in student loans, credit card debt etc is pretty much in the negative net worth category and her only assets may be a car or some furniture…

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Avenger November 15, 2012 at 06:24

Want to return to the land? Grow food instead of a yard

It’s more costly than buying it and takes a lot of time to tend it and there’s not much nutrition in vegetables(assuming the rabbits and other animals don’t eat it first when it’s ripe or the bugs don’t ruin it) Only commercial farms can make any profit (and not always) where it’s worth investing in equipment, spraying plants etc

It’s better to get some cows, sheep, chickens etc You hardly have to feed them and they’ll just graze on grass and whatever they can find. Set up some bee hives and let the bees do all the work :) If you’re going to grow something make sure it’s a high value crop like poppy or tobacco :) And yes, it will grow all over most of the US (the best cigar wrapper is grown in Conn.)

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Glenn November 15, 2012 at 07:57

As the Bible says in Isaiah 3:4 “I will make boys their officials; mere children will govern them.”

America has become Lord of the Flies, writ large. Upwards of 90% of the people you come across on a daily basis are monumentally spiteful, childish, petty, and prone to backstabbing at every given opportunity. It is a miracle the nation has not complely collapsed.

I see it this way, 10 year old children are unlikely to form and sustain functional groups, let alone an entire society. Case in point, I plan on moving back to New Hampshire next year for the sole purpose of linking up with the Free State Project and CopBlock Libertarian people. I simply have no more tolerance for living under the rule of “Looking out for #1″ anymore.

I fully expect the FSP guys to have their share of petty, backstabbing trolls, but it beats the endless sea of redneck hillbillies here in Virginia. When people have to flee a state in order to find even the basic modicum of group cohesion, there is a serious problem somewhere, or everywhere.

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keyster November 15, 2012 at 09:01

We are being transitioned to be part of the North American Union and from there to Global Goverment. The United States as a Nation must be broken for any of that to happen.

BINGO!
Which is why we’re importing unskilled labor from “developing countries”, rather than say a brilliant software programmer from the collapsing socialist republic of Spain. We need to import the dependent that vote Democrat, that will in-turn transform America and lead to it’s destruction so as to be rebuilt into the NWO context. It’s all about Global Equality, and America being rich and strong is just not fair…especially to people of color.

Venezuela voted for Hugo Chavez because he cares about the people.
America voted for Barrak Obama for the same reason.
It’s all part of the master plan to pit the Have nots against the Haves.
Socialists/Communists use class warfare rhetoric to destroy capitalism because its effective.

Why the GOP continues to battle Dear Leader, I don’t know. They’re an anachronism. They’re the desktop PC to Obama’s mini iPad. They’ve won the culture and now the politics. It took a few generations, but it’s happened.

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Ghost of 503 November 15, 2012 at 10:47

I disagree from the neck-down. The death of the community came at the hands of technological innovations brought on by the post-war years. The Idiot Box, the smart phone, the video game console, the PC, the internet, these are what did in the community elements of American culture.

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American November 15, 2012 at 10:49

Interesting theories gentleman, all interesting theories.
I dont read too much heavily abstracted theories, as usually the authors are pretentious ,Vulgar, social climbers that have no real understanding of what they are talking about, but use “elongated synonyms” to “feign their understanding” to the simpletons.
But Gentleman I humbly express..I am Impressed by the “spearhead community”.

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highwasp November 15, 2012 at 11:39

I guess I could sum up it like this: women abandon men – men band together.

Our lack of communities could be another piece of evidence how women are so completely ‘brain washed’ into believing that they ‘need’ to be men that they are forsaking their own communities. That’s not surprising considering they have already trashed marriage and ‘the family’.

In their zeal to become men, women are bent on furthering their institutional higher educational training for about half their lives and then intent on climbing the corporate ladder, further their careers, for the remainder, blah blah… women have not only thrown family, children and men under the bus but they have also forfeit their own communities in the process.

From what I have read and experienced women are not just socially prepared for networking with women everywhere, they are biologically hard wired for it. According to a few authors who study feminism, Steve Moxon finds that women have a biologically basis for social networking with other women everywhere on the planet. It’s part of the survival techniques women have evolved with. ‘Team Woman’ is a spin off from thousands if not millions of years of female survival adaptations. Women are hard wired for social networking, which in turn assists in formation and continuation of communities, all of which is being thrown away by females for their own gratification.

Given their historical and genetic basis for social networking, I would have thought communities would be more valuable to women than their self absorbed and self centered nature. With no ability to see the long term effects, women’s selfishness seems to be their first priority above all others. Above their communities, their children, families, men, political, national and even their own biological inheritance…

Well, “Nature hates a void” – women have participated in or are directly responsible for creating a void in communities and families as well as other areas in our culture. With us men being forced out of the work world in favor of the ‘empowered’, being kicked out of our marriages and our children’s lives, being made ever more disposable, we men now have an opportunity to fill the community void created by women’s exit. What else is there for us?

Look to those ‘communities’ of men who band together, men who have each other’s back, (like a sports team, tight rock band or military squad) men who regard each other as priority – and you’ll see how to proceed into the voids created by women. You could call these bands of men ‘gangs’ and maybe they are… but they are effective. You could call them ‘brotherhoods’ or ‘clubs’ or ‘bands’ whatever… when a group of men regard each other with trust and respect a community is created and there is nothing they can’t accomplish. Since communities, marriage, families and men have been abandoned by women, the natural thing for men to do is to band together… after that there’s nothing we can’t accomplish.

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MRAwesome November 15, 2012 at 12:48

So if global elites want this, what is their endgame?

Why do they think this drives the world into some utopia?

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Mr.J November 15, 2012 at 12:56

Another reason is industry confined to “industrial parks”…A lot of people used to walk to work in their neighborhoods but that is gone…..Now you drive to huge parking lots in vehicles that drain you of all your money.

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keyster November 15, 2012 at 13:42

Since communities, marriage, families and men have been abandoned by women, the natural thing for men to do is to band together… after that there’s nothing we can’t accomplish.

Because every attempt for men to organize their own space is inevitably invaded by women. Women AND government institutionalization of gender discrimination policy will not allow it. Wherever there’s a hint of men gathering, there’s the distinct possibility that patriarchy is secretly rising up like a Phoenix from the ashes of sexism. Yoko Ono broke up the Beatles.

So if global elites want this, what is their endgame?

Power; world domination over the unwashed masses who need governing. The global elites know what’s best for humanity and they wish to impose it by government fiat on everyone. Read “1984″.

Why do they think this drives the world into some utopia?

In Egalitarian Utopia there are no rich or poor, no black or white, no men or women, no winners or losers – – no Haves or Have Nots. No one can ever be better off than anyone else, except for the Elites that control society from on-high. There are no incentives to excel because that’s unfair to others and the central government will not permit rewards for it. Stay in good graces with Big Brother and you just might curry a smidge of favoritism – – perhaps extra chocolate rations next year. Oh joy!

Villianize the privilaged white male class as Enemy #1, that he may never be advantaged, and the playing field always be tilted against him from ever dominating again. Once you’ve controlled the guilty white male from excelling too much, making women and minorities seem inferior by comparison, you’ve begun the march to Egalitarian Utopia.

The culture conversion has taken decades.
The Obama Dynasty is the first key indication of the cultural to political transformation…the beginning of a new age of Tyranny.

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highwasp November 15, 2012 at 14:46

“Because every attempt for men to organize their own space is inevitably invaded by women. Women AND government institutionalization of gender discrimination policy will not allow it. Wherever there’s a hint of men gathering, there’s the distinct possibility that patriarchy is secretly rising up like a Phoenix from the ashes of sexism. Yoko Ono broke up the Beatles.”

yeah I know that’s why I included ‘gangs’ in the description of men banding together. Aint no bitches breaking up the ‘crips’ and ‘bloods’ is there? those black men gang together primarily due to the matriarchal social structures the same as we white men are facing now…

and sometimes I wonder if the villianizing of those who create technology (white men), who are most likely to create more technology, (or least those who have within the US immediate history) isn’t simply a ‘social -subconscious’ reaction to the overwhelming amount of technology which already have and hardly understand. Maybe western cultures are merely slowing down and possibly stopping any more technological ‘progress’ in order to assimilate the tech we have or until a time when we need more. Then, those who create technology will be celebrated once again… I know that’s oversimplifying things but it’s a little easier to take than the Orwellian, Big Brother new age of Tyranny which could very well be the end game for the Powers That Be – THAT reality of our future seems very dark in deed.

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Jabberwocky November 15, 2012 at 15:04

PiercedHead nailed it. Our job defines us from a societal point of view more so than anything else now and days. The really scary part is where school purposely limits our choices of work based not on intelligence or merit so much as one’s willingness to work hard and blindly conform. Sure, individuals break out of their “assigned seat” on occasion. No system of control is a perfect cage. But to expect people to transcend beyond how we are all programmed by the system to place each other in the hierarchal matrix of “the system” will take a philosophical enlightenment I have great doubts of humanity achieving without the arrival of a new leader whose main goal is to free us all from ourselves. That would be a paradox in action.

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Ed November 15, 2012 at 15:13

Good article, great topic. But the argument that social isolation proceeds from institutions doesn’t make sense to me. In fact, I think that the public schools, in which everyone but the 1% participated, and the parkland that surrounded schools, contributed to social mixing and cohesion. I grew up in a small town with a university, if that matters, and not a big city.

I blame the demonization of men, that forces parents to keep their young children from going out to their parks and neighborhoods, and socializing with their peers, out of fear of the evil male boogie man that lurks everywhere.

When I was a kid, my stay at home mom shooed me out of the house; I went to the nearby park, because that’s what all the boys did. We organized our own games by our own rules and learned that if you wanted to have a team game with eight or ten boys, you’d better learn to get along with others.

On the weekends, our parents took us to places like local lakes and parks, which is where everybody went. We kids played impromptu team games while the older kids flirted with each other or showed off, and the grown ups gossiped and made dinner and talked.

Now, nobody does any of that stuff. Parents don’t let their kids out of the house, and train them to do safe activities, like watching TV or playing video games or doing endless useless homework. Play dates have to be organized in advance; logistics make play dates with more than two or three kids impractical, and both parents work anyway. So much for learning to socialize. Today, when a boy stays home and plays by himself, watching TV or playing a video game or doing homework for weeks on end, parents feel all warm and fuzzy because they know right where he is. When I was a kid, if parents saw that behavior they’d get worried: what’s wrong with my son, he’s not playing with the other kids? This is a problem that needs fixing.

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American November 15, 2012 at 15:25

We can theorize about the causes and conditions that got us here, But also keep our feet on the ground with the very practical assertion that ….it is unconstitutional for the federal government to be funding American law enforcement’s “manufactured statistics”, if these “manufactured statistics” are inflaming a prejudice against the innocent.

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American November 15, 2012 at 15:37

High wasp proposes that the matriarchies that force American minorities (blacks, latinos) into gang life, to give them some sense of community to ease the pain of the broken matriarchy they live in; is now consuming the poor white America also.
Right on bro!!! where Else can one find the truth these days but @ the spearhead???
The US military Used to give poor boys a chance at overcoming the matriarchal underclass they were born into, But now “Military Gender-Raunch” is taking over, and there will be no more climbing out of the matriarchy.
If you break a man psychologically “psychologically castrate” him, you can still harvest his labor because his bodies still there, he’s just too “psychologically castrated” or “broken” if you will; to ever stand up for himself to complain.

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American November 15, 2012 at 15:44

Years upon years of American feminist agit-prop “psychologically castrates” a man or boy to the degree he feels rebellion is futile.
Only upon understanding that perversion is at the roots of the propaganda that one is ingesting, (namely, the perverse manufactured statistics from American law enforcement) does one feel the slightest hope.

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Avenger November 15, 2012 at 15:54

“Our job defines us from a societal point of view more so than anything else now”

It’s still better for most people than in the past where if a boy’s father was a blacksmith or something then he’d pretty much be the same thing. The masses have a lot more choices today than in the past.

And what you’re seeing today is just the same old stuff in a different guise. Who cares about marriage?It was never any good and just a burden to men.

“But to expect people to transcend beyond how we are all programmed by the system to place each other in the hierarchal matrix ”

That’s just the natural order of human life and always existed. No one is being programmed for it.

@Wasp
“Because every attempt for men to organize their own space is inevitably invaded by women. Women AND government institutionalization of gender discrimination policy will not allow it

You can form any private club or organisation you want and limit it to men if you choose.

“‘Team Woman’ is a spin off from thousands if not millions of years of female survival adaptations.”

So? You just finding out about this? It’s always been this way and they do it to protect themselves.

“Aint no bitches breaking up the ‘crips’ and ‘bloods’ is there? ”

Most of them are in prison where they belong. They are a danger to men andif we didn’t have cops who act as our hired thugs we’d have to go out and kill them all.

“but it’s a little easier to take than the Orwellian, Big Brother new age of Tyranny”

There has always been tyranny.
Technology has always existed to make life easier from the first guy who invented the wheel. You’re still going to get old and die so none of this is going to ultimately mean anything anyway.

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Ode November 15, 2012 at 16:19

Avenger

Net worth is like every asset you own minus debt. I’m pretty sure that about 20% of the people have a 0 or negative net worth. Then there a pretty big group that has a tiny net worth of a few thousand.

My gut feeling says you are probably right.

I’ll have to look up the data, don’t know what it currently is but I’d guess that the typical female with $50k in student loans, credit card debt etc is pretty much in the negative net worth category and her only assets may be a car or some furniture…

Most adults eventually get married or cohabitate and move into the same house together. Therefore networth is one of those economic statistics that is almost always expressed as per household and not per capita. Based on my life experiences, I have only met one single woman who had a high net worth. In every case where a woman had a high networth it is because she was married to a hard working beta-male.

Feminists won’t admit to it but achieving a high networth to a woman is like trying to get good at math and science…..it’s one of those things women are really bad at achieving.

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merrimac November 15, 2012 at 19:11

November 15, 2012 15:54 Avenger – said, “You’re still going to get old and die so none of this is going to ultimately mean anything anyway.” … Exactly, …Mental Masturbation…

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Ted November 15, 2012 at 19:11

“The Idiot Box, the smart phone, the video game console, the PC, the internet, these are what did in the community”

… and the automobile. It changes the geography of the country, isolates people from the environment, and makes it dangerous for children to play outside.

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freebird November 15, 2012 at 19:42

Poiuyt November 14, 2012 at 13:30

“Yes but whom else but we ourselves gave officious cops and other Statist authorities these intrusive powers to control us with, because we prefer and trust them more than we trust ourselves as free individuals ? That is with rights to consent, to not consent, to agree, to disagree etc etc.

It is our own ill intent and general bad will for each other -really the next man- that has lead us down this miserable path to a Police and Authoritarian State where we have better trust in the subjection of the authorities and the police. Militarized, bureaucratic authorities with the following powers to abuse and misuse peoples whom have totally forgotten what it means to be free :

1.
To pry into and to question our daily walks and talks with our kids, family members and work colleagues-especially if they are female.

2.
To maliciously, mischievously and constructively probe our spouses at the health clinic or dentists for allegations of domestic violence, even that which the may themselves be committing.

3.
To confiscate properties, pensions, savings and any monies from bank accounts and employers to redistribute to female family members or strangers. That is on the basis that if a woman sees or imagines she has seen anything belonging to men then she constructively owns it.

4.
To set our domestic and family budget and personal commitments by transferring property and income to ex-spouses and lovers in the contrived name of children or women’s rights.

Yet with all these bestiaries, over-thefts, absurdities and humiliations to men and to children going on, some queer minds are still able to stand up and boast of it all as a mark of better civilization.

We have a lot to learn from other peoples in the east and south, whom foolishly and carelessly sowed similar ill-winds, only to then reap the dervish of damnation and destruction onto their own societies.”

Superlative and excellent comment.
Really good comments all around.
By golly if we all had this awareness society might stand a chance..
Good job guys.
Just outstanding on this thread.

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Toddy Cat November 16, 2012 at 09:44

I’m not sure what is at the root of the current American alienation, but it certainly doesn’t help that, starting in the early 1960′s white Americans were told that associating with people that they were comfortable with was “racist”, while blacks were told that continuing to belong to all-black lodges, fraternities and the like was harmful to the “Civil Rights Struggle”. So now, everybody has to associate with people that they don’t or can’t relate to. Hell, it’s easier just to stay home and watch the tube or play games.

Heckuva job, liberals.

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Bollocks! November 17, 2012 at 19:11

Tam the Bam, are you a Tam Brahm?

“Which is why we’re importing unskilled labor from “developing countries”, rather than say a brilliant software programmer from the collapsing socialist republic of Spain. We need to import the dependent that vote Democrat, that will in-turn transform America and lead to it’s destruction so as to be rebuilt into the NWO context. It’s all about Global Equality, and America being rich and strong is just not fair…especially to people of color.”

Not so fast. Lots of people of color immigrate to the USA because it is fair and gives them an oppurtunity to raise their standard of living. If the US were to become like their countries, where would they go?

“Venezuela voted for Hugo Chavez because he cares about the people.”

He might. I’ve not researched him.

“America voted for Barrak Obama for the same reason.”

Does he? Monsanto Lobbyist Michael Taylor was made Food Czar and head of FDA!!!

If Obama cared about the people he would have banned GMOs instead.

It’s all part of the master plan to pit the Have nots against the Haves.
Socialists/Communists use class warfare rhetoric to destroy capitalism because its effective.

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Bollocks! November 17, 2012 at 19:17

“So now, everybody has to associate with people that they don’t or can’t relate to.”

What? I dont *have* to have to associate with anyone if I don’t want to. I am now however free to associate with whomever I want, regardless of skin color.

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Tam the Bam November 18, 2012 at 06:33

Bollocks! November 17, 2012 at 19:11
“Tam the Bam, are you a Tam Brahm?”
Say wut? I had to go and look that up, and alas, despite occupying the very pinnacle of the great tree of mankind, laden with nature’s gifts, that honour yet evades me.
Think Groundskeeper Willie, but with a great deal more hair, and a considerably less sunny and obliging disposition.

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