WGTOW?

by W.F. Price on September 28, 2012

Is it possible that some women may want to opt out of the “game” and live independently, without the support of a man? If so, is there something wrong with that?

Although it’s probably less common for women to “go their own way” than for men, some of them do so. I’d say, however, that we need to be a bit more discriminating in this case, because a lot of women who are unattached to men in the formal sense of being a wife still rely on men as mistresses, prostitutes, or owned corporate assets. You can’t really go your own way if you’re owned by your lover(s) or boss.

So, although it’s probably pretty rare for a woman to be truly independent, such women do exist. Some do it out of necessity, such as widows and divorcées who hail from the lower classes, but a few intrepid women do it of their own accord, and these women have always existed.

Feminists like to point to such women as heroes for going it alone, but then they inevitably demand that men pay for such a lifestyle, which contradicts the very spirit of independence. I think this is one of the aspects of feminism that seduced men in the first place. Men thought that feminists were really serious about wanting to live independently and take care of themselves, and for a lot of men that sounds like a perfectly honorable goal. What they didn’t see was the stealth appeal to have men collectively support women, “Life of Julia” style.

However, women who take care of themselves are real. Some of them run businesses, most work in ordinary jobs, and a lot of them contribute a fair amount to society.

I happen to know one quite intimately. I like her a lot, respect her, and even admire her. She’s my sister.

My “little” sister is only 14 months younger than I am. We grew up very close, and I’m very happy to have had her around. Sure, we fought from time to time as kids, but my life is much richer for having had a sister like her. We stood up for each other — even against vicious animals. When I was a little boy, I had a fear of large dogs (back in the 70s, people let feral dogs run loose all over the place). Dogs, as all children know, can smell fear, so they’d make an extra effort to torment me. But my little tow-headed sister had no such fear. When some local cur would start coming after me, she’d stand right up to the mutt and let him have it. “Leave my brother alone!” she’d say to the cringing canine. Although in retrospect it may not have been all that wise for such a little girl to stand up to large, toothy beasts, she proved that she was no slouch, and no wimp.

Later, I repaid the favor by standing up for her when other kids were mean. Not because I was a “white knight,” but because my sister and I were in it together. We both looked out for one another, and we still do.

Our politics are far from the same, but she could give a damn about that, and about politics in general. My sister is fundamentally pragmatic where human relations are concerned: treat her well and she graciously returns the favor.

So why isn’t she married or a “career woman?” I can’t speak for her, but I think it’s because she’s been honest with herself and her priorities. As a good-looking, intelligent woman, she’s had plenty of opportunities, and offers from wealthy men. But she chose instead to live life the way she wants to. And it isn’t about some “you go, girl!” sense of defiance, but rather a fundamental honesty and adherence to her own standards.

Instead of faking some allegiance to cliché social standards and then pulling the “eat, pray love” routine, she’s always been straightforward about her expectations and preferences. She lives life according to her own values, as different as they may be, but doesn’t expect others to either foot the bill or explain it for her. She’s an upstanding woman. Different, but honorable. There’s something noble about the way she’s chosen to live her life, and I’m proud of her for that.

I don’t think many men would have a problem with women like her. I doubt many women would, either. But feminists would deny her very existence, and suggest that in order for women to be independent in both mind and spirit, they need to be made dependent on men in aggregate. There are a lot of women out there who prove them wrong, and they are, perhaps, the most compelling argument against the utter helplessness and dependence of women of all.

Unfortunately for the feminists, they are also the best argument against their basic premise of eternal male responsibility.

Women who stand on their own are a great boon to our society, but if we let the feminists have their way we’d have to believe they don’t exist. I refuse to see women in such a fundamentally pathetic light, not least of all because one of the women I care about most can stand on her own, and does so with both grace and conviction.

Thanks, sister, for giving me some faith in and respect for half of humanity.

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geographybeefinalisthimself September 28, 2012 at 19:09

(this is a comment from geographybeefinalisthimself in case it shows up as “Anonymous”; I’ve had a little trouble getting it to show up and am taking it up with wordpress.com)

“Some do it out of necessity, such as widows and divorcées who hail from the lower classes, but a few intrepid women do it of their own accord, and these women have always existed.”

Widows who opt not to remarry probably go their own way, assuming they also inherit very little from their dead husbands.

Divorcées probably collect child support or alimony that is imputed to their ex-husbands, even if the latter are poor and can’t meet unrealistic court-ordered expectations.

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Rebel September 28, 2012 at 19:37

I am certain that many women prefer to make it on their own. I see nothing basically wrong with that. Marriage or cohabitation is not for everybody.
Men and women are free to do what they want with their lives.

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driversuz September 28, 2012 at 19:48

Yes, there have always been independent minded women, but back before society gave them free money, their choices were mush more limited. They could do their best to fit in someplace safe, or if they were brave and dedicated enough they could risk total failure by going it alone. Since their chances of success were so very slim, there must have been very few of them indeed.

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Zorro September 28, 2012 at 19:52

When they’re young, yeah, sure.

When they’re older…watch out. MUCH more support needed.

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greyghost September 28, 2012 at 20:07

The real fun is when women go it on their own because no one wants them. The best thing about an involutary spinster is she has to do some things on her end to get there. First step is the cock carousel second step no child to claim. Involuntary going your own way. The artificial WGTOW by male indifference and birth control. “Good thing you have those credentials huh spinster? You are going to need a job to pay for that medical care for pussy hole infection you got.”
The crazy thing about it that is a normal life for any man. And that life causes no duress for a man to live it. For a woman it causes hysteria.
Now real WGTOW doesn’t do any of that crap. They just handle their business.

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justeunperdant September 28, 2012 at 20:09

Women can only go their own way now because of the support of industrial civilization.

If industrial civilization were to collapse, women will be totally dependant of men.

Look at the video title:
Crazy: Cambodian Dads Build There Young Azz Daughters, 9-13 Year Olds, A Little Love Hut To Have Sex With Boys!

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhI1KAA71B8kZvyCPo

Notice what the women says from 6:20 to 7:05 min in the video.
Notice how one young girl describe a men: men are industrious. She means men are intelligent and build a lot of useful stuff.
Notice too that women are useful and do hard work in the fields. (4:00 min in the videos)

Women in primitive culture know what is the real value of men. Only stupid women in the western world believe that men are useless and don’t contribute.

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anonymous September 28, 2012 at 20:20

This is the essence of what bothers me about feminism in general. In a lot of ways, it’s just a way for the vast mass of ordinary women to tear down those rare, exceptional, extraordinary women. Because women like that ruin their narrative of the “oppressed” female, and because women like that remind these feminist b*tches about all the things that, no matter how far down they tear society, they can never hope to be.

The women who are capable – ie, psychologically equipped, and eager – to make it on their own, outside of social expectations or norms, have always done so. Women in the past who were highly successful made it work because they were either highly intelligent, beautiful, and/or socially cunning. Those of us who were going to be extraordinary still managed to be so. A lot of the time, this meant marrying well, but not always and not exclusively. An extraordinary woman needed no government patronage handed out to her in order to do what she wanted with her life.

The majority of the female population, in the meantime, channeled their ambitions through men to get to a comfortable place in the world. They made do on the support of a man – father, brothers, husbands, sons – and would have to endeavor to be the best daughter/wife/mother possible in order to ensure their security. The vast majority of women weren’t able to rise above society’s expectations on their own merits and focused instead on making their half of the world a comfortable place to be.

Feminism changed all that. They forced women to leave the world they had built for themselves, and thrust them into a world where only the extraordinary ones traditionally succeeded, demanded that ALL women be like that from now on. But most women can’t handle it, and those that can (like your sister), never needed the hand up in the first place.

I’m not saying we should force all women to be barefoot in the kitchen or anything like that; choice is an essential element in life, and shouldn’t be taken away from anyone. But extraordinary women never needed feminism to give them a hand up on anything other than the most intractable issues, like voting or property rights. I believe that a lot of women who do identify as feminists come from that “ordinary” majority. And that those women are just jealous of those exceptional women who they can never hope to emulate. At least, not without a levelling of the playing field in the form of their “you can have it all” narrative that’s forced on little girls from day one, and subsidized by Big Daddy government. It’s nothing more than standard-issue female vindictiveness and survival strategy, writ large.

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justeunperdant September 28, 2012 at 20:23

Another question why I am still on moderation.

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Ed September 28, 2012 at 21:24

As long as you know that WGTOW really means WCTCGHADCAPWGTOW (Women Continue To Collect Government Handouts And Divorce Cash And Prizes While Going Their Own Way).

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shiva1008 September 28, 2012 at 22:42

Well, it’s like REO Speedwagon said, “You can go your own way…” :)

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FL September 28, 2012 at 23:33

“Men thought that feminists were really serious about wanting to live independently and take care of themselves, and for a lot of men that sounds like a perfectly honorable goal.”

That is an excellent observation. The reality, as you pointed out, is that women have not changed as a class and still demand a man/government provide for them. However, there are women who do exist on their own because of their own convictions.

I will always have respect for such women. However, there can be no respect for the women who preach one thing and then do another. Interestingly enough, it is equality because we men expect the same of other men.

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JHJ September 29, 2012 at 00:51

I have no issues with a woman who decides to go her own way. Only they are terribly rare. Most “independent women” are welfare parasites. They “don’t need men”, to be sure, but do they ever need all the welfare handouts the state collects from men and sends them to provide for their “independence”. And they’re the most vocal and shrill in their demands – demands! – that the money they feel entitled to should keep flowing and coming their way.

To be honest, even women who don’t do welfare, child support, alimony or any other such little female independence booster are an iffy proposition as respectable: if she supports herself with a job she got as a result of affirmative action policies then she, too, is a parasite, only slightly less obviously so.

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codebuster September 29, 2012 at 01:58

Men thought that feminists were really serious about wanting to live independently and take care of themselves, and for a lot of men that sounds like a perfectly honorable goal.

I made this mistake, and it provided the basis for why I once supported feminism (yeah yeah, shoot me). The idea of a woman joining me as a bud and partner on my adventures was very appealling. LOL Was I ever wrong about that… fancy feminism requiring women to take responsibility for their choices! It has always been important to me that the woman I am with presents well… and why not? I am not unhappy about my gene pool, so why shouldn’t I expect the same of my partner? But there’s a problem, one that is perfectly insurmountable. The more attractive that women are, the stupider they are. This IS insurmountable. Or to be fair, I should say extremely rare.

Why is this? It’s because culture validates for women the option to be taken care of. In other words, culture (especially in the Anglosphere) validates the condition of pretty imbecile, and women are encouraged to habituate and embrace this condition, and make it a part of their identity. An attractive woman will always, always, always find, when her luck runs out and her options have run dry, a performing seal who is willing to provide for her. End of story. A woman might idealize higher virtues, and maybe expect higher standards, but if she’s attractive, she will have options to play with, and ultimately she will choose a best option that will provide for her (emphasis on being provided for). Because she can. So can we blame them? Imagine an attractive woman, with all the choices available to her that are typically available in the Anglosphere, choosing independence and taking responsibility.

I don’t think that men realize how important this cultural validation to be provided for really is. You’ve got to imagine what it is like to live an entire life as a woman in a culture that validates being provided for. Imagine being an attractive woman in the Anglosphere being hounded relentlessly in a sea of men with “needs”. How should a woman choose? When you try to imagine yourself living out your entire life as a spoiled woman, it begins to make sense. A wealthy slob as a guaranteed provider of comforts and luxuries can be way more “attractive” to a woman than a handsome, intelligent dude who expects her to pull her weight. This is why it is important for men to always, always, always foot the bill at least on the first dates… irrespective of what she might tell you, subconsciously she establishes that crucial connection between your willingness to absolve her of all responsibilities and what she can expect in the future. Being babied is every Anglosphere woman’s birthright, and at least at a subconscious level, she knows it. She might “dabble” in a career, she might pretend to be a you-go-grrrl for a bit, but at the end of the day, she has the stay-at-home escape hatch if it should all get too difficult for her. And within the Anglosphere, you can be 99.999999% sure that she will finish up taking that option (Bill’s sister must be the remaining 0.000001%).

Unattractive women don’t have the same options as their more attractive sisters. So it might seem logical that you are more likely to find brains without beauty. But there is a problem that is not immediately evident. An unattractive woman will also define herself by her looks… but negatively. You might get the brains, but with that you also get the desperate. More specifically, it’s not love you get, but need. Why should a man accept such a compromise?

The best solution, I believe, is to flee the Anglosphere. In Europe you are much more likely to encounter the beauty-brains connection. I should know. One of my cousins has a daughter that is beautiful, cheerful and alone… and seems to be accepting her fate without the urgency or desperation that characterizes the todlerettes of the Anglosphere. She may not be alone for long (by European standards), but still, it’s the absence of the “desperate” that makes all the difference and introduces the rather alien concept (to the Anglosphere) that it is actually possible to consider a woman your bud and partner.

Trigger warning: To understand this post, you need to dump the genocentric paradigm. It’s not in the genes. It’s the culture stoopid.

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Opus September 29, 2012 at 02:15

Perhaps it is different in the United States, but until fairly recently Englkand was awash with women of the sort you describe – wo en who would perhaps have mariied but the first and second world wars had taken a scythe to the young men. These women tended to be come school teachers and nurses – jobs for which they were emninently suited

The Mistresses, Prostitutes and Courtesans (which Welmer refers to as belonging to their corporate bosses) are of course of a different class.

[There is something wrong with the software - I cannot see what I have written above and thusd cannot correct or add to it- or perhaps it is my lap-top?]

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BigBadBear September 29, 2012 at 02:52

Of course you were not “white knighting” by standing up for your own flesh and blood – indeed, it would reflect badly on you had you not done so.

White knighting is only a problem when performed by beta manginas, for women they barely know (if at all) – women who given half the chance would treat those same men with utter disdain and contempt for their supplication, before being swirled away on the carousel.

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Avenger September 29, 2012 at 03:01

Widows who opt not to remarry probably go their own way, assuming they also inherit very little from their dead husbands.

I would think that the opposite was true. Widows with money have no incentive to remarry.

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Avenger September 29, 2012 at 03:05

WGTOWWCAB-Women going their own way with cats and benefits.

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Darryl X September 29, 2012 at 04:35

Preposterous!!! ALL women are entirely dependent upon men. No woman could possibly survive on her own. It’s impossible.

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Darryl X September 29, 2012 at 04:39

@ shiva1008 – Wasn’t that Fleetwood Mac?

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Darryl X September 29, 2012 at 04:42

@ Ed -

“As long as you know that WGTOW really means WCTCGHADCAPWGTOW (Women Continue To Collect Government Handouts And Divorce Cash And Prizes While Going Their Own Way).”

Amen!!

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Darryl X September 29, 2012 at 04:58

Women who own their own business are not going their own way. Because they are women, for a variety of reasons, they pay fewer taxes and have more right-offs and deducitions than men who own their own businesses. They have special grants, etc… for starting the business in the first place. That men don’t get. Most women have free and available support from a variety of manginas and white knights to help them with their business. Men do not have this. As a matter of fact, they are encumbered by having a woman around and not helped. Women who own their businesses have not gone their own way. They are still receiving disproportionately great help from men.

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Eric J Schlegel September 29, 2012 at 05:39

The male narrator uses such deep, shocking emotion in his voice when talking about how…OMG…”young girls experimenting with SEX!” As if that did not ever happen here in the “civilised” world. As if using DoubleThink to forget how he would have LOVED such a venue as an adolescent. Compare that to the shit-eating grin on the face of the female journalist as she describes the same thing. Remembering her own youth, and the absolute power she weilded over the hormone-fueled boys around her?

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imnobody September 29, 2012 at 06:55

These women are more abundant in Europe. In America, pedestalization and the princess complex make it hard. By default, an American woman is a princess so she demands to be treated as a royal by men. She is used to be supported and pampered by men in so many ways.

This is why feminism has always tried to paint the career lifestyle as glamorous. Every career woman is a hero, because she is INDEPENDENT (meaning: she owns her own shit instead of having men dealing with it). This is theory, of course. In practice, independent women very often give their shit to men too. She is a hero, because she has given up the princess treatment.

She has to be glorified because of things that are trivial in men. From Destiny’s Child song “Independent women” :

The shoe on my feet, I’ve bought it
The clothes I’m wearing, I’ve bought it
The rock I’m rockin’, I’ve bought it
‘Cause I depend on me

If I wanted the watch you’re wearin’, I’ll buy it
The house I live in, I’ve bought it
The car I’m driving, I’ve bought it
I depend on me, I depend on me

All the women who are independent
Throw your hands up at me
All the honey’s who makin’ money
Throw your hands up at me

(So look at me! I’m fabulous because I pay my own shit instead of being supported as if I were a little child! This is unremarkable in men or European women but an American princess has to be celebrated because of that)

But I relate to you when you speak about your sister. I have two sisters and they are very close to me.

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Thin-Skinned September 29, 2012 at 07:03

Indeed, NAWALT.

We men can bitch and moan about the state of 21st century women folk, but everybody suffers the idiocy that passes for fashionable establishment politically correct values.

The irresistible daily dose of “two-minutes hate” provided by the manosphere tends to distort my perspective. It’s good to have a ray of hope now and then even if it doesn’t get the same page views and clicks as the usual fare of hate-bait that we all love to feed our insatiable appetites for outrage and indignation.

Women complain about the Alpha-dog dudes, maybe we men need to examine our own case of apex-fallacy. Surely they aren’t all cocktail-bar, carousel-riding, attention-whoring teases? Invisible as they may seem, I suspect there are more decent and wholesome ladies than we manosphere cynics believe. Maybe we could sometimes ignore the shrieks of those crazy dogmatic nuts ‘n sluts that get us frothing at the mouth but can’t help ourselves from hate reading nonetheless. Perhaps we could focus on a more positive model for humanity. The kind of woman that Mr. Price describes his sister as sounds quite sensible, “pragmatic… and straightforward about her expectations and preferences.” Politics indeed are probably a waste of time. So many waste so many tears worrying about how others live and ruin their lives instead of minding their own business and carving out a decent life for themselves in our peculiarly unsettled and difficult modern world.

I’d ask that we all show a little more maturity of the kind Mr. Price characterizes here. Instead of the passivity and cowardice that holds so many women (and men) back from engaging others in genuine honest relationships we could strive to find the courage to be more direct … even if that means occasional mild conflict. Everyone is so afraid of offending others or hurting people’s feelings, that seldom do people actually show what’s in their hearts. We waste too much time; indeed we deceive ourselves, relating to the everyday deceptions that we spin in our polite facades.

Let’s grow up and get real.

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Sun September 29, 2012 at 09:24

“Women in primitive culture know what is the real value of men. Only stupid women in the western world believe that men are useless and don’t contribute.”

I disagree.

The Illusion of Modernity affects men as well.

Modernity is a social construct.

The masses have no clue.

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Interested September 29, 2012 at 10:59

@ Codebuster

“An attractive woman will always, always, always find, when her luck runs out and her options have run dry, a performing seal who is willing to provide for her. ”

Funny you should bring this up. Dated an older lady who was just under 50 and she was still very beautiful for a 49 year old. You could just look at her and see how guys probably worshipped her in her youth.

But she chose poorly for a husband and is now divorced and working a basic job while trying to go back to school so she can earn more money.

She pretty much admitted to me one night all you described. Just a few cocktails in her and I got treated to her comments about how hard school is for her now, because when she was younger she didn’t have to pay attention. She got all her validation from the orbiters and just followed that social, attention filled path instead of personal development.

She may still get some orbiters, but it didn’t take long to tire of her ignorant pronouncements and confessionals about how utterly broke she is. Seems she and her former husband of twenty years just spent everything they earned on cars, vacations, clothes and what not. Now she is, in her mind, just another heroic single mother raising two teenage girls. Imagine that.

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justeunperdant September 29, 2012 at 11:24

I agree SUN.

The masses have no clue and The Illusion of Modernity affects men as well.

Yes you are right. I just did not dare to say it. But I still find more men are aware of the current situation than women.

I did not want to derail the post by making too much about modernity.

I guess you are aware of the work David Korowicz : Financial System Supply-Chain Cross-Contagion:a study in global systemic collapse and the work of Joseph Tainter. Just in case you miss it google their name.

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Thos. September 29, 2012 at 14:39

Can we please include explanations of what the acronyms mean?

Thanks.

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Rebel September 29, 2012 at 14:54

Thos. September 29, 2012 at 14:39

Can we please include explanations of what the acronyms mean?

Use Google.

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D.J. Knox September 29, 2012 at 23:08

Thin-Skined, get real is just what men & boys ARE doing in greater numbers & using it for self preservation. The elephant in the room of relationships is the misandry laws of both nanny state & daddy govt. that just not intrude but control relationships & lives now on HER whim. It does not matter one whit that SHE might not invoke male hate discriminatory laws but that they are there so at any time when SHE feels like it she CAN.
Govt. & its policing thugs are not inerested in fair or equallity for men, so men will continue to do what they always have done when threatened…protect themselves one way or another.

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Chris September 30, 2012 at 00:33

I have no problem at all with women who are independant. Pay their own way. Live alone.
But the use of neo-marxist cant to ignore the big problem — which is that women can ruin a man virtually at will — is foolish at best and dangerous at worst.

You see, it will hit back on women. Only a few women really want to be alone, But the current situation will move to the European — where living as a single person, without kids, will be the norm, during which the demographic structure of society will collapse.

As Petronius said, the world needs to be peopled. Getting rid of the current family laws would be a good start to remedying this.

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Ragnar September 30, 2012 at 04:26

Stardusk entered a very interesting Youtube video;
http://youtu.be/bOQ1LUxxiLU
It tells us a lot about both male and female nature.

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Ragnar September 30, 2012 at 05:29

Can’t help but adding a comment here;
It seems that the best way to understand male and female nature is to look upon us as a bunch of primates.
Females collecting fruits and roots under the supervision of an alpha male and civilisation is created by a bunch of beta males somewhere out in the bush. The females are attracted to the safety of the alpha male, but also want the “fruits” created by the beta’s.
A little too simple, but it works in general!

Beta’sGTOW are the creators of Civilisation

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Ragnar September 30, 2012 at 05:30

Need an edit button . . .

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Manlyman September 30, 2012 at 05:45

@ Interested- Lemme guess….she pulled the plug because hubby lost his job and he could no longer “provide” for her, right?

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walking in hell September 30, 2012 at 06:54

The day American women go their own way will be a great one. They should go their own way right into FEMA camps. Would be even better if American women were loaded onto giant garbage barges and dumped in the middle of the ocean.

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Gamerp4 October 1, 2012 at 15:01

Two Thumps Up For that WGTOW

Whatever floats their boat, do it, because Marriage is a downer and it will be men who will strike this beast “Marriage” down even more, I am not against it but I am against the “New Marriage” it has to go down for Men to Thrive, we have lost enough, we dont wanna lose more, Although i am married and many would feel shocked but there is a big difference when someone marry under the contract of “Marriage 2.0″, either you stay MGTOW or just perish and be a slave for the dominatrix to rule you every day of your life until she is BORED or UNHAPPY with her charming PET.

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the_alpha_male October 1, 2012 at 19:46

They are called lesbians. And there seem to be a lot more them around these days.

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Anonymous October 1, 2012 at 19:47

Women can’t wgtow pure and simply. mgtow is where a man goes through a lot pain and BS from life and women, then says F**K it and most importantly men who mgtow have to WRONGED in some way and women cannot be wronged nowadays like a man can when dealing with women.

Also, Its women nature to be social and if small amount of them do something similar to mgtow its a product of the modern world built by men.

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MIKE October 1, 2012 at 19:48

Women can’t wgtow pure and simply. mgtow is where a man goes through a lot pain and BS from life and women, then says F**K it and most importantly men who mgtow have to WRONGED in some way and women cannot be wronged nowadays like a man can when dealing with women.

Also, Its women nature to be social and if small amount of them do something similar to mgtow its a product of the modern world built by men.

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Venom Froggy October 2, 2012 at 22:47

I see no reason to celebrate.

And to be honest with you, I don’t know which is worse.

The truly independent woman that doesn’t need or want you or the feminist welfare parasite who claims not need or want you yet still needs and demands shit from you.

Either way, the men get left out in the cold holding their dicks because they are STILL looked upon as dead weight by both types.

Fail!!

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ThoughtCriminal October 5, 2012 at 04:54

Oh boy! What a non-sensical, illogical twaddle. So, what’s the difference between a “career women owned by a corporation” and a men in the same position? Why are you so damn scared of women? Have you ever met and talked to a feminist?
Please explain what the difference between a married woman, a career woman and any other woman (like your sister) who is working is…you do realize that married women can work also, right?

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Traveler November 11, 2012 at 19:09

Thank you for this, Price. It is good to know that there are others who appreciate women who are both antifeminist and unwilling to compromise their standards. Like your own sister, I am a WGHOW. I refuse to play the game of my “sisters” in society…I do not see a man as a walking wallet or automatic protector, but instead see him for what he is…a hard worker, a being with flaws and strengths, a person with desires, fears, wants and needs. In other words, a human just like me. It would be such a difference to who I truly am…I’d have an easier time believing I’m somehow not a heterosexual!

I despise the fact that our society praises women like myself and Price’s sister. What did we do that is so worthy, other than become responsible adults? I have a 50+ hr a week job to afford my college loans, my car, my apartment, my videogames. Would it be easier to wear makeup, revealing clothes, feminine attire and snag a man so that I could “have my cake and eat it too”? Of course! But that would be such a blow to my values and standards that I’d be unable to live with myself.

No…I’ll not submit to society’s whims. I will care for my friends, save my money, get my MBA, cherish my wonderful lover, and maybe run my own business someday. And I’ll do it all without the backdoor cheats of “Big Brother” money…just as any REAL adult citizen would do.

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ed November 22, 2012 at 09:04

this was the pain i was talking about
A wgtow is a joke
http://whoism3.wordpress.com/2012/11/17/confessions-of-a-reformed-incel/

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Nonyamous February 8, 2014 at 12:53

Weeelll, I don’t know about the US, but around here lots of men are on welfare, too. Actually nowadays, when hard industries (building, metalworking, car and paper industry and such) are firing people left and right, men are the “parasites” living on benefits.
It’s the women (working in health care and as office assistants, sellers, hairdressers) who are now keeping the tax money coming in.

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