Orthodox Russians: No Free Pass for Pussy Riot

by W.F. Price on August 7, 2012

Despite calls for mercy from international celebrities such as Madonna, prosecutors are seeking three-year prison sentences for three Russian women who desecrated a church in a planned publicity stunt intended to promote their band.

Prosecutors on Tuesday called for three-year sentences for the members of a feminist punk band who performed an anti-Vladimir Putin stunt in Moscow’s main cathedral, ignoring demands by human rights groups that the three women be set free.

Prosecutor Alexander Nikiforov portrayed the request as lenient, saying it takes into account the fact that two of the defendants are young mothers and that they have good references.

The hooliganism charges the three women face can carry a sentence of up to 7 years in prison.

The three women – Nadezhda Tolokonnikova, 23; Maria Alekhina, 24; and Yekaterina Samutsevich, 29 – have been in custody for five months following the February stunt, in which they took over a church pulpit in Christ the Savior cathedral for less than a minute, singing, high-kicking and dancing.

Their case is part of a widening government crackdown on dissent that followed Putin’s election in March and caused strong protests in Russia and abroad. Musicians including Madonna, the Who’s Pete Townshend and Neil Tennant of the Pet Shop Boys have urged their release, and Amnesty International has called them prisoners of conscience.

The majority of Russians have little sympathy for the women, who are self-described feminists, but they are receiving a fair amount of support from the usual crowd of Westerners that sees any desecration of Christian symbols as a positive thing.

Although I, too, am inclined to see the sentence as a bit excessive, and would settle for a couple months community service along the lines of shoveling horse manure in police stables, these kinds of things ought to be put in perspective.

Say, for example, some skinheads burst into a Muslim service and started playing white power songs in one of New York’s main Mosques. What would their sentence likely be? I think they’d be very lucky to get off with only three years, and Amnesty International certainly wouldn’t take up their case.

Cases like these very clearly demonstrate the West’s political priorities, which in some ways have traded places with the former Soviet Union, which notoriously burned and shut down Christian churches across the land under Communism. As for the feminists, they are starting to look more and more like political tools in service to a vague, but powerful ruling ideology that has emerged in the West.

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Uncle Elmer August 7, 2012 at 07:04

The mainstream press sure enjoys having the chance to say “Pussy” when reporting this story.

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Uncle Elmer August 7, 2012 at 07:16

The Women In The Blue Shirts Who Dare Mighty Things

http://www.forbes.com/sites/tarabrown/2012/08/06/the-women-in-the-blue-shirts-who-dare-mighty-things

elmer is disgusted :

Back in the 60s NASA Men didn’t hug each other awkwardly on successful mission accomplishment.

I’ll bet Don Draper doesn’t hug his co-workers either.

Women have ruined everything.

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Uncle Elmer August 7, 2012 at 07:33

Fat Discrimination. It’s a growing problem, and it’s time we enable fat chicks to crash through the glass ceiling :

Thin Is In For Executive Women: How Weight Discrimination Contributes To The Glass Ceiling

http://www.forbes.com/sites/lisaquast/2012/08/06/thin-is-in-for-executive-women-as-weight-discrimination-contributes-to-glass-ceiling

“Leah” comments :

Great piece Lisa! Interesting the amount of hurdles there are for women to get to the top that simply don’t exist for men, or at least not to the same degree.

elmer concurs :

Fat women running hurdles, now that would be funny.

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Opus August 7, 2012 at 07:43

It is not just Russia: The law in England deals harshly, too, with those who attempt to disrupt or take-over established places of worship. I forget exactly what the penalty was of those protestors who took over Canterbury Cathedral. One does not have to have any particular religious views to see just how offensive such behaviour is intended to be which is why my contempt for Pussy Riot’s sympathisers makes me even more contemptuous of those aging preening-posturers than usual. How would Madonna or The Who feel if a group if MRAs attempted to disrupt their concert venue or consider the outraged attitude of the Pro-Gay British State (Homo-sexuality being its preferred life-style choice) were a group of straight males to attempt to upstage a Pet Shop Boys concert?

I may however take issue with your final paragraph: the Soviet Union may have been a secular country (as is the United States) but if the authorities there had attempted to raise places of religious worship, I cannot see how they would have failed, yet, it is clear that Christian Churches and Muslim Mosque’s survived – otherwise Pussy Riot’s riot would never have occured. I suspect that Soviet destruction of churches is merely an anti-soviet western myth. Churches go however, and the local Catholic church having been deconsecrated (one supposes) was rebuilt by Tescos – but even I am not prepared to suggest that Jews are destroying English Churches.

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Buck Swamp August 7, 2012 at 07:53

Feminism should always be dealt with a harsh hand.

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California Nationalist August 7, 2012 at 08:01

It’s events like this one that have caused me to consider converting to Orthodoxy.

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Okrahead August 7, 2012 at 08:10

Even in the U.S., where freedom of speech is protected by the 1st Amendment, you cannot go onto the private property of other people and take it over to make your speech (unless, of course, you are a filthy, diseased, hippy-wannabe with Obama’s pet Occupy movement). Now I do indeed understand that Putin is a filthy animal himself, but taking over the pulpit of a church to stage a protest is not an acceptable way to protest. If we condone that, what’s to stop Occupy, or CAIR, or NOW, or whatever stupid, inbred, demofascist group of the month from taking over any pulpit any time they want to stage a protest? If they had just protested Putin in public I suppose I might have supported them. Bunch of feminists taking over a church? Throw away the key.

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ahamkara August 7, 2012 at 08:11

So what exactly are they protesting for… for the right to be attention whores in a church? It’s telling that this is how they chose to make their case. They can’t see beyond the end of their noses. They’re being persecuted unnecessarily, they should just be ignored… the martyrdom is only going to legitimize them. But they really should have come up with something more inspired if they had a legitimate beef with the government.

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Rebel August 7, 2012 at 08:12

It’s very strange how things have turned around ever since the collapse of the USSR. I wonder if the same fate awaits us when our time comes.

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livingwell August 7, 2012 at 08:18

Hold them in prison until their 30 with their sexual market value closing on zero. They’ll marry some beta provider Russians, ruin their lives, and in ten years we can read about three Russian men sharing a condo in downtown Moscow. Those darn men.

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livingwell August 7, 2012 at 08:26

Putin , being the ultimate alpha dog, will not give a rat’s ass if these girls rot in jail. Sorry Vagina Riot, but you forgot that Russia is still run by real men.
Male rock groups know how to protest without crossing the line, because men understand that they will be held to account. Women, without controls do not understand this. Alpha men have no problem controlling the women in there lives.

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livingwell August 7, 2012 at 08:27

“their”…sorry

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durandal August 7, 2012 at 08:36

These feminists and homosexual activists are being funded and backed by outside forces. Who are these forces? Read Anthony Sutton and Eustace Mullins to discover its the same group who are angry to have lost their hold on Russia and the Slavic people. Their objective is to destabilize and break down the new orthodox christian nationalist sentiment being rebuilt by Putin after the fall of the soviet union. No form of marxism, especially gramscian cultural marxism, will ever be granted a foothold in Mother Russia again.

The famous writer Solzhenitsyn witnessed first-hand the enforced ideological state-sponsored terror against the russian people. In a famous speech at Harvard he alluded to the much more insidious cultural, intellectual, and spiritual destruction being methodically deployed in the US:

http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/solzhenitsyn/harvard1978.html

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Binxton August 7, 2012 at 08:38

Although I, too, am inclined to see the sentence as a bit excessive, and would settle for a couple months community service along the lines of shoveling horse manure in police stables,

I’m sure Madonna et al. would agree with this too. So would a lot of other folks in the West who may have some misgivings over the excesses of feminist activism, while generally accepting its main goals.

Three years is nothing. Society has a duty to severely punish feminist behavior. What the Russians are doing is right and, in any case, none of our business. They deserve our respect and moral support.

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Matiss August 7, 2012 at 09:08

I don’t think that this comparison can really be used here. On one hand we have a racial message (white power songs) and on the other we have a political message. The church in Russia has long since abandoned their core values and have traded them in for political prostitution.
I don’t agree with Pussy Riot’s views on feminism and it’s agenda, but that doesn’t mean that everything they do has to be viewed through that filter.
When we start judging everything people do based on only 1 of their character flaws, we are no better than the feminists themselves. We are men – we should be much more intelligent than this!

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Keyster August 7, 2012 at 09:29

Say, for example, some skinheads burst into a Muslim service and started playing white power songs in one of New York’s main Mosques.

White Nationalists are a “hate group” that plays “hate music”.

Feminism is a righteous social movement promoting conscious awareness of the inequities women and girls face in the world today.

Men’s Rights Activists are also a “hate group” that promotes hatred of women and marriage. We’re also potentially violent too because we self-immolate on the steps of family courts, and we’re against VAWA so we’re actually FOR violence against women.

Republicans are a “hate group” that hates minorities, gays and women’s rights. Just look at their voting record at refusing to fund entitlements such as women’s access to health care and food stamps. That’s nothing more than hatred of women and the poor.

Don’t you see, this is the divide and conquer strategy of the Left, that’s been going from Marx to Alinsky to Obama. If you disagree with the Left, you must be a hater of something. Whereas the Right is quite clear about what they REALLY hate, and that is Leftist tactics to divide the country into special interest groups and build the Democrat voting base from them.

ie – If you’re a hetero-normative white male in America today…and you’re NOT a card-carrying Liberal; you’re a racist, sexist and/or homophobe by DEFINITION. IOW, you’re a member of the Oppressive Class…the “secret order” of white males conspiring to rule over colored people and women.

Always keep the opposition on the defensive through false accusations and ridicule – – the more time and resources they use to defend their positions, the less time they have to articulate theirs, and thus reveal yours…which is centralized government control of every aspect of our lives, and forced social and economic equality regardless of race or gender or even ability.

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Norm August 7, 2012 at 09:40

Seems like the Russian authorities saw what happened in the USSA in the 60′s and 70′s and the fallout from it.

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Uncle Elmer August 7, 2012 at 09:48

elmre continues the thought-experiment on women’s ascendancy in formerly male preserves (re : Mars landing of “Curious SpaceCraft of Color” ) :

In the future, after women have achieved parity with men in military affairs, female generals and their gay male compatriots will hug each in the Joint Chiefs of Staff “war-room” after having vanquished some enemy through women’s ability to multi-task and consensus-build. Their hetero male colleagues will still feel stiff and awkward because of their aversion to intimacy.

Off-topic but they will probably rename “Joint Chiefs of Staff” to something less patriarchal, such as “Trans-Adversary Assertiveness Council”.

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Sam August 7, 2012 at 09:50

Maybe it was also really bad singing.

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continent August 7, 2012 at 09:58

Syyttäjä vaatii 3 vuoden vankeutta Pussy Riot -punkkareille The prosecutor is demanding three years imprisonment Pussy-punks Riot
7.8.2012 12:19 7.8.2012 12:19 | | Päivitetty 7.8.2012 16:42 Updated 08/07/2012 16:42 | | | |
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Syytetyt Nadezda Tolokonnikova, Maria Aljokhina, ja Jekaterina Samutsevitš kuulivat tänään syyttäjän vaatimukset moskovalaisessa oikeussalissa. Accused Nadezda Tolokonnikova, Maria Aljokhina, and Ekaterina Samutsevitš heard today, the prosecutor demands a Moscow courtroom.

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Rod August 7, 2012 at 10:06

I have mixed feeling about this one. While I have little sympathy for these women, I can’t help wondering if the political muscle of Putin’s thugocracy is behind the excessively harsh sentence. I read somewhere that their “performance” at the cathedral was lewd, and included some self-exposure. Anyone heard whether that’s true or not? If so, I have even less sympathy for them. At any rate, it will be interesting to see what the continuing reaction of Western feminists will be. When criticizing Muslim societies, they tend to be a bit cautious (because we all know that it’s Western society that’s the blueprint for patriarchal sexism, right?).

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George B. August 7, 2012 at 10:17

I just read this today:
http://www.antifeministtech.info/every-religion-and-atheism-is-getting-feminized/
So I’m going to comment on this from an atheist, anti-feminist, point of view:
While we, atheists, seek to engage in a rational discussion with believers (to eliminate any legal discrimination against atheists, eliminate cultural demonization of atheists, and hopefully create a general atmosphere where evidence and rational, critical thinking are valued above all else), one thing that is clear is that disrespect (e.g. patronizing one side and claiming they have no moral sense, or that another side is retarded) and outright effrontery and insults is off limits in any civil and constructive discussion. So, while an atheist may not think a church or a temple has any value or dimension other than the material, desecrating churches is not kosher and it is an assault on their property and an invasion of their space (Christians don’t go to church to see a bunch of scantily-clad dissolute air-headed cunts can-can dancing on the altar).

I also think the atheist community should not side too hastily with whoever opposes religion. If someone attacks religion, that does not automatically mean it’s a good thing, nor that the attackers have or are promoting our values (skepticism, critical thinking, secularism…).
Atheists too often forget that theism does not have a monopoly on dogmatism and I have seen too many atheists ruthlessly scrutinize any and all religious dogma only to turn and blindly embrace a non-theistic ideological set of dogmas that masquerades as scientific knowledge.

And from now on, I’m not going to let any atheist get away with any cultural marxist bullshit at all (not that I used to in the past).

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joeb August 7, 2012 at 10:19

I made the Mistake of planning a day yesterday , Forgetting it was Baby mamma day the day when the Checks come . My first clue was aggression at the gas station , then a bank manager yelling at men as they stood in long lines :say they just hate women ,
The women in front of me explaining how shy is the third generation baby mamma peaked my curiousness , Is this why we Did away with General relief ,Because Females were living in the system generation after generation .
I was then flipped of my a women assuming the whole street was hers , It click in my sometimes slow head what day it was , so I retreated to the confines of my house and Ill wait having learned my lesson about Baby Momma day once again .
I think there is a correlation between the Entitlement of aggressive women roaming the streets unhampered by good manners and this story .
It reminds me of the video of the women on the Subway slapping and being aggressive with the first male shy ran into , The poor Guy Just wanted to get home and not be attacked c by a Lunatic feminist with Daddy Issue’s .
The interesting part was the Bank Manager that was Over reacting to a long line , But I have had several encounters with feminist run Banking in the past .Its just time to change banks and write a damning Letter .
Ok need to go to Chase today and pay my credit card Hope it over .

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freebird August 7, 2012 at 10:25

I say keep them in for life to send a clear message to the death-cult-that is feminism.

Worse things have happened.

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Zorro August 7, 2012 at 11:26

As an atheist, I am disgusted that they took out their fembot angst in a church. I despise religious intolerance, probably because I am the recipient of so much of it. I don’t like to see people stirring up more.

You don’t like Putin? Take a number!

I am fed up with women going berzerkoid and then getting a pussy pass. What they did was uncivil and revolting. They deserve three years. A couple months of community service is what you give 14 year olds, not women old enough to be mothers raising children.

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ActaNonVerba August 7, 2012 at 11:32

Who give a rat’s lice and sore ridden arse if any of them are mothers? That has zero to do with anything. If these women had a shred of decency, they would ask for harsh sentencing BECAUSE they are mothers. “Your honor. I realize I’ve been acting like an idiot and committed crimes. Because I want to attempt to be a good mother for the first time in my miserable life, I’d like to request a harsh sentence. In this way, my children will learn that being a self-absorbed, entitled, crime-committing areshole is the wrong path to choose in life.”

Anyway, I say give them EXACTLY what you would give men for the same offenses. That’s equity.

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El Bastardo August 7, 2012 at 11:40

It is amazing to me how hypocritical we look. We go after other countries developing nukes, yet we have thousands. Thousands that make the Hiroshima bomb look like a baby rattle! I saw Hiroshima city a few years ago, the museum there did a wonderful job in being “bipartisan” in its portrayal of why the US did it. Going so far as understanding, considering they knew the trenches our boys would have had to fight through. The death toll would been so immense, Hiroshima and Nagasai would have looked like necesssary choices that “were not made.”

Screwed if you do, and if you don’t!

Now this, feminists decrying their treatment from their “ideological motherland!” Oh how the mighty have fallen. Just four decades ago, feminists had their way with that country abusing men in droves, now feminists “daughters” are getting the same, and here they come crying to their defense. I guess killing off your men, and then denyiong those who survive fair working conditions when they get back was too much; now Russian men are not getting revenge, just giving the “cold chill of indifference.”

After a hundred years of brutal passive aggressive oppression by socialist women (feminists), men have for the past two decades told their Russian girls where they can shove it! In other words, you’re a dime a dozen, I can have my pick, go find some sucker in the US to take you. Sad but true…..reminds me of a Metallica song I think?

Yeah boys, that would be over here in the new USASR. Still want a foreign russian bride? I can’t say for sure, but there may be a reason those women can’t find “work/marriage” over there; so they come to get it from you over here.

I guess they find our “good communist” ways that are bearing fruit over here to be a more stable environment for their machinations..?

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TLM August 7, 2012 at 11:44

The author of the article must be a tard. The “stunt” by the women happened in Feb, but the journalist states its part of a growing response to Putin’s election in March?

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The Whammer August 7, 2012 at 12:28

PeeWee’s Big Adventureis on now with Fatrelle

http://www.aljazeera.com/watch_now/

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The Whammer August 7, 2012 at 13:10

have been in custody for five months following the February stunt

Good. Even if the charges are dismissed they were punished. This is what happens to men all of the time if they are unable to make the excessive unconstitutional bail (or no bail) imposed by kangaroo US courts. When the charges are dismissed the man has already suffered damage.

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AntZ August 7, 2012 at 13:20

The sentence is too harsh because stupidity is not a crime.

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Richard August 7, 2012 at 13:34

They shouldn’t complain. Getting harassed by The Man should increase their counter-cultural cred (and sales).

I’m pretty fed up with the late 20th (continuing into 21st) century aesthetic mandate of nihilism. You see it in visual arts, film, and many styles of music.

Combined with unrelenting self-righteousness, it really bugs the hell out of me. I mean, what has all the amelodic spazzy playing of the last 30 years of punk done for humanity? A more equitable tax structure? Cleaner energy? Nope – just (typically) navel-gazing middle class whites who think their impotent ennui is noteworthy.

I agree that 7 years could be a bit long and would like to see more creative sentencing. How about the successful execution of a dozen Rachmaninov piano concertos, or better yet, a selection of basso profondo choral works…

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Buddy Guy August 7, 2012 at 13:53

Western Feminazis lambasting Russia are, of course, making it worse for the Pussy Riot. Good job.

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The Whammer August 7, 2012 at 14:06

Looks like the Fatboy has failed again. He didn’t even get his 15 minutes of fame on some website that no one watches. More like 12 seconds while the girls monopolised the show and he just sat there off camera playing with himself lol
It was one of those shows where some female goes on and on female harassment on the internet blah blah blah until you fall asleep from boredom. What it all came down to is censoring anything a female doesn’t like to hear on the Net. There’s no such thing as harassment on the Net because you’re under no obligation to go to a site or to even use the Internet. You don’t like a site then avoid it. How can one anonymous poster harass another anonymous poster? Is the man (it’s always a man doing the harassing lol) going to put his fist through the monitor and beat you?
Females just can’t stand the idea that men are talking about them in unflattering ways and want to stifle them with censorship. And since the internet is somewhay anonymous I wouldn’t be at all surprised if some of these violent posts are coming from feminist agent provocateur .

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zed August 7, 2012 at 14:06

AntZ August 7, 2012 at 13:20

The sentence is too harsh because stupidity is not a crime.

In nature it is – a capital crime. The judgment is absolutely impartial, the sentence is carried out immediately, and there is no appeal.

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Gamerp4 August 7, 2012 at 14:06

Feminist are clearly stupid Period.

I would ask 10 years for them :D and the two who are mothers well there child custody should be revoked and the father should have the sole custody.

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Common Monster August 7, 2012 at 14:23

AntZ!! +1

Art is whatever you can get away with.
They didn’t get away with it, so it wasn’t artful.

Hopefully they’re better musicians. This was like them quitting their day jobs to pursue the feminist slogan about well-behaved women not making herstory. What could possibly have gone wrong?

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Darryl X August 7, 2012 at 14:33

Russia has been resisting the imposition of women’s shelters in its country by feminists for years. No one would have imagined that we would be going fast the way of the Soviet Union so soon.

Each of these three women should be condemned to three years of service to a man in the US who has been divorced and lost his children. I’ll take one for the team and volunteer for service by one.

These developments in Russia, keyster, are not the result of a leftist, socialist conspiracy. It is a conspiracy of psychopaths as defined by Doug Casey. Feminism is malignant narcissism and psychopathy. It is promoted by both left and right.

I recommend no mercy for these women. Three years is too lenient. They can have their freedom when I have my children and my life back. We are fighting a World War and these whores need to be punished.

When women in Europe during World War II aided and abedded German soldiers, which I understand was quite common, the women were stripped naked in public and their heads were shaved.

There was no trial. There was no question about their guilt. Women are whores. Even back then adultery and paternity fraud were normal among women. And they still haven’t learned anything after seventy years.

So stripping them naked in public and shaving their heads didn’t set an example and discourage future whores from their egregious treason. Maybe seven years in prison will teach these whores in Russia how to behave like civilized human beings. And maybe it will be a lesson to whores in the US and elsewhere too. It’s cheaper to keep a woman in prison than it is the US though.

No mercy. If I had my druthers, I’d execute them. Feminism is a political campaign of hate against men and children. The things done to men and children in family courts are hate crimes. Period. Whores like these in Russia need to be punished severely. Too bad Putin isn’t running for President in the US. For all the problems he might cause, he would be discouraging the biggest one.

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Darryl X August 7, 2012 at 14:51

Two things occurred to me about my above post. One is that men like Putin are in charge because women have destroyed the lives of all the real men in Russia already.

The second is that there used to be a time when a woman was shamed by being stripped naked and having a shaven head. Today it’s just a fashion statement. (sigh) No wonder it didn’t work.

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keyster August 7, 2012 at 16:12

These developments in Russia, keyster, are not the result of a leftist, socialist conspiracy. It is a conspiracy of psychopaths as defined by Doug Casey. Feminism is malignant narcissism and psychopathy. It is promoted by both left and right.

I’ve been looking for Conservative Feminist organizations, but can’t seem to find any. Point me in the Right direction.

The developments in Russia are the result of Tyranny, which eventually manifests from leftist/socialist policy. All these women did was make a ruckus in a church, disturbing the peace, trespassing maybe; a misdemeanor in a Free Speech society.

BUT because they publicly criticized the thin-skinned Dictator-in-Chief, they’re facing several years in prison. Had they just played music about feminism, or better yet a sweet ditty exhalting the Dear Leader – – they’d be having brunch at the Kremlin with the other babushkas.

Ironically these women are neither musicians or even true feminists, but rather mere pranksters…like the Chicago Seven or Code Pink or what’s left of OWS. Russian leaders don’t like pranksters and they don’t like criticism…regardless of how cute and innocent it might seem.

Here in the USA we permit you to be as disrespectful and critical of the President as you wish…as long as it’s a President that the news media doesn’t support…then you’d better watch your tone.

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keyster August 7, 2012 at 16:23

One is that men like Putin are in charge because women have destroyed the lives of all the real men in Russia already.

Putin is in charge because he said he is.
Russia destroyed the lives of all the men in Russia.
Now it’s a quasi-communist/underground-capitalist tyranny run by conglomerates, syndicates and gangs. At least the women will always have their bodies to sell.

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jaego August 7, 2012 at 16:36

Putin loves his People and they love Him. That He is hated by the West speaks well of him. I mean how dare he block campaign contributions from the West? That kind of thing makes Russian elections merely a Russian affair. The Enemy of all Nations hates that kind of thing.

They love this kind of thing btw. They used to stand outside churches and refuse to open them without payment. Or come into Mass and demand repayment of their loans – at a mere 40% or so.

Read Solzhenitsyn’s book about the Jews if and when it ever gets translated into English. They have been fighting for years to keep it out of the Anglo World.

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Darryl X August 7, 2012 at 17:00

@ keyster -

Actually, the problem in the US is WORSE. Ask any dad who has stood before a tyrannical family court judge. Almost all of them are evil malignant narcissists. And they take their cue from the president – malignant narcissists get away with only what their direct chain of command lets them. Malignant narcissists are also cowards.

Tyranny does not result from leftist/socialist tendancies. There are plenty of evil and tyrannical dictators who leaned to the right. The country (US) is not divided by left – right. It is divided by malignant narcissist – non malignant narcissist. The Democrats and Republicans have not had many close elections as of late because because half the country is Democrat and half Republican.

The reason the elections have been close is because half the Democrats and half the Republicans are malignant narcissists. And Reagan was one of our worst presidents in history, suffering from advanced Alzheimers related dimentia for half his term in office and most of the population of the US was too stupid to notice.

(I did before his tenure as president ended and after it was announded he had it.) He was a malignant narcissist and was a compulsive pathological liar on record and many of his policies set the US up for complete collapse and destruction years before it actually happened.

None of our presidents since Eisenhour were any good but Reagan was particularly bad. Particularly tyrannical if you think that Putin is a tyrant. His entire presidency (Reagan) was a sham and so many of his decisions were consistently so destructive both in the long- and short-term and particularly to real men that his failed presidency is no accident.

And again, I’m no socialist liberal Democrat but instead associate myself far more with conservatives than liberals on most issues and did even back then during Reagan and I still thought he was a completely destructive president. The problem of feminism came from the pathological desire for liberal men to pander to women as much as it came from conservative men to sell out other men.

Feminism is not a product of liberalism or conservativis or leftism or rightism but the worst of both philosophies. That’s the reason why the MRM is failing to get any traction. As much as men like me have been destroyed by feminism, we see no support or help or solution to the problem of feminism that isn’t worse than feminism itself.

The constant threat by you and others of creating a system in which weak willed and simple minded men who borrow money from the banks and force other more honest and real men to pay it off for them (but don’t call it welfare – LOL) is the biggest obstacle to stopping feminism and its culture of chronic victimhood since it began forty-four years ago in the US.

You should stop because you are as big a problem as the feminists. The difference is that feminists are malignant narcissists. They are evil. You aren’t evil. You’re simple minded and don’t understand that you’re just as much a welfare recipient for having your hand out to the banks at the expense of men as feminists are for having their hand out to the government at the expense of men.

Feminism is evil. But as long as men like you have your hand out to the banks and get other men to pay off your loans for you, it almost justifies (almost but not quite) the disposition of feminists. I wrote “almost” and meant it. The egregious and criminal behavior of feminists is not justified by anything.

But most people are idiots and as long as men like you exist and keep honking about the superiority of using the banks to defraud innocent men, then feminists will follow that example and use it as an excuse to get the governments to do it for them. They’re two sides of the same coin. I’m glad I’m not on that coin. In the end, the only people who suffer are real men like myself who neither borrowed from the banks nor identified myself as a victim class for the government.

We’re the real ones who suffer from the insane tug of war which has been going on between men like you and the feminists. You’re both a bunch of dishonest thugs. But feminists are damned thugs. You aren’t damned yet. You’re just an idiot. Lucky you. And lucky me and other men like me too. Thanks for your help, buddy.

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The Whammer August 7, 2012 at 17:55

Okra-The Homos in NYC were disrupting services in St Patrick’s ccathedral for years as well as demonstating outside on the steps and all because of the church’s opinion of things like gay marriage and marching in the parade. They weren’t even banned from marching but just from not carrying some giant banner with Irish Gays on it. Nothing happened to them and at the very most they got a disorderly conduct citation (fine)

@Opus-this is not just a religious matter because many of these places are also national monuments and you can’t have people possibly damaging them or starting a fight inside them when they annoy people who may be attending a service or praying inside.
Westminster Abbey is not just another Anglican church anymore that Christ the Saviour in Moscow is.

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W.F. Price August 7, 2012 at 18:24

It is not just Russia: The law in England deals harshly, too, with those who attempt to disrupt or take-over established places of worship. I forget exactly what the penalty was of those protestors who took over Canterbury Cathedral. One does not have to have any particular religious views to see just how offensive such behaviour is intended to be which is why my contempt for Pussy Riot’s sympathisers makes me even more contemptuous of those aging preening-posturers than usual. How would Madonna or The Who feel if a group if MRAs attempted to disrupt their concert venue or consider the outraged attitude of the Pro-Gay British State (Homo-sexuality being its preferred life-style choice) were a group of straight males to attempt to upstage a Pet Shop Boys concert?

I may however take issue with your final paragraph: the Soviet Union may have been a secular country (as is the United States) but if the authorities there had attempted to raise places of religious worship, I cannot see how they would have failed, yet, it is clear that Christian Churches and Muslim Mosque’s survived – otherwise Pussy Riot’s riot would never have occured. I suspect that Soviet destruction of churches is merely an anti-soviet western myth. Churches go however, and the local Catholic church having been deconsecrated (one supposes) was rebuilt by Tescos – but even I am not prepared to suggest that Jews are destroying English Churches.

-Opus

Opus, the law is very lenient here where church attacks are concerned. There were a number of church burning cases as recently as the 90s, but something like half of those turned out to be hoax hate crimes.

However, gay and feminist protesters committed disgusting acts against Catholics when I was a kid in the late 80s:

ACTUP and WHAM: Homosexuals and pro-abortionists belonging to the groups ACT-UP and WHAM (Women’s Health Action Mobilization) stormed New York’s St. Patrick’s Cathedral on December 10, 1989, assaulting parishioners, disrupting Cardinal John O’Connor’s Mass by screaming and shoving people, and desecrating the consecrated Host by throwing It on the ground and stamping on It. Outside, hundreds of screaming homosexuals burned Cardinal O’Connor in effigy and attacked passersby, all because the Cardinal had refused to toe their immoral “safe sex” line. Some of the placards the homosexuals carried displayed slogans such as; “MARY SHOULD HAVE HAD AN ABORTION; “CHRIST WAS A HOMOSEXUAL;” and “DEATH TO THE CHURCH!” After the invasion of St. Patrick’s cathedral, ACT-UP issued a press statement saying that its cause is “… important enough [to allow us] to invade any space, to disrupt any speech.”[46] In December of 1990, in defiance of a court order resulting from the attack one year earlier, homosexuals broke into the Mass once again and made off with consecrated Hosts, which they gleefully displayed outside.

Some were arrested, I think, but I doubt any served more than a day or so in jail. Given the consequences here, where Christianity has been effectively subjugated by radical leftists, it’s hard for me to condemn the Orthodox Christians for taking a hard line. Does anyone believe the feminists would have any mercy for men who disrupted their sanctuaries? Of course not. Best to deal with them as they’d deal with us, so Pussy Riot can go to hell.

zed August 7, 2012 at 18:29

I agree that 7 years could be a bit long and would like to see more creative sentencing. How about the successful execution of a dozen Rachmaninov piano concertos, or better yet, a selection of basso profondo choral works…

How about sentencing them to listen to their own music 16 hours per day at loud volume. Give them 8 hours off for sleep, but every waking moment must be spent listening to their own creations. I’ll bet that would make them wish they had made better music.

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The Whammer August 7, 2012 at 18:47

@Elmer

Their hetero male colleagues will still feel stiff and awkward because of their aversion to intimacy.

Yeah, stiff :)

These feminists complain about the fact that they were not let into the space programme in the 60′s so they could land on the moon. All of these guys were pilots for years before they started with the rockets and were renamed “astronauts” by von Braun, so you don’t just decide you want to go to astronaut school without first being an experienced pilot. I doubt if any females were jet pilots breaking the sound barrier fist.
I’m sure that you’ve seen the original space capsules and they were tiny(Yuri Gagarin was 5′ tall) where you just had a bit of room to turn around and had to shit in your pants. Now, imagine these conditions where this tiny capsule is sitting on top of what is basically a big bomb that’s going to hurl you into space. Think any females were going to volunteer to be astronauts back then? The space shuttle is roomy and comfortable compared to back then which is why we see female astronauts now. Females only get involved in things when it is safe and comfortable and then bitch about how they were not let in earlier.

Well anyway I see that Walt is laying down the law to Skylar :)

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Attila August 7, 2012 at 19:00

There are crooks everywhere – especially in religion — in the Kali Yuga- one can only rely on one’s guardian angel/daemon for guidance.

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The Whammer August 7, 2012 at 19:26

@joeb-there’s no need for you to even go into a bank anymore. Drive up to any of those new machines any time of day or night and you can do anything. Deposit cash, withdraw cash, transfer money, and best of all cash cheques. The computer knows immediately that that cheque you just deposited has the funds available and they are transferred into your account in 2 seconds. So you can deposit a cheque and take the cash out right there in a minute. Even the receipt has a small scanned version of the cheque you just deposited. No need to ever go into a bank.
In fact, the more recent accounts that I have I opened by internet. Scanned and faxed ID and a signature sample, transfeered some money to open the account and that was it. Nobody at the bank even knows what I look like :)

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Rusty August 7, 2012 at 20:36

“It’s very strange how things have turned around ever since the collapse of the USSR. I wonder if the same fate awaits us when our time comes.”

Sure. But only after the left/liberals have murdered 50 million of us first. The remnant, as in Russia, will have a hell of a battle, though.

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George B. August 7, 2012 at 22:04

quote//
Although I, too, am inclined to see the sentence as a bit excessive, and would settle for a couple months community service
//unquote

Women already get 40% less time for the same crime as men. The last thing we, in the MRM, need is to be lenient with feminist criminals.
They should get the maximum penalty allowed under the law not just because of this but also to send a clear message to other feminists and liberal-leaning marxists that they can’t pull off this shit and get away with it lightly.

quote//
Say, for example, some skinheads burst into a Muslim service and started playing white power songs in one of New York’s main Mosques.
//unquote
Just to clear something here: skinheads != White Nationalists.
Most White Nationalists have valid concerns and clear and reasonable arguments. You can go here to see that they are indeed not crazy haters:
http://www.whitenationalism.com/wn/wn-06.htm

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Ubermind August 7, 2012 at 23:13

Opus

“I may however take issue with your final paragraph: the Soviet Union may have been a secular country (as is the United States) but if the authorities there had attempted to raise places of religious worship, I cannot see how they would have failed, yet, it is clear that Christian Churches and Muslim Mosque’s survived – otherwise Pussy Riot’s riot would never have occured. I suspect that Soviet destruction of churches is merely an anti-soviet western myth. Churches go however, and the local Catholic church having been deconsecrated (one supposes) was rebuilt by Tescos – but even I am not prepared to suggest that Jews are destroying English Churches.”

As an inhabitant of former USSR I ask that you never ever post again. Theories your mind generates are stupid.

Many churches were turned into warehouses or cinemas and the few who kept functioning were used to spy on people.

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W.F. Price August 7, 2012 at 23:40

As an inhabitant of former USSR I ask that you never ever post again. Theories your mind generates are stupid.

Many churches were turned into warehouses or cinemas and the few who kept functioning were used to spy on people.

-Ubermind

Don’t get too upset at Opus — he hasn’t been there (AFAIK), and I think from a lot of Westerners’ POV it’s hard to believe that it could have been much worse there than it currently is here.

I actually visited the USSR in 1987 and went to a cathedral in St. Petersburg — can’t remember exactly which one. They were using it as a crude physics lab/museum to make some point about “superstition” and science.

Recently, I visited Riga, and stayed near St. Peter’s Lutheran cathedral, which was burned when the Communists invaded in 1945. The Bolsheviks even went so far as to build up tall buildings around it in an effort to obscure it from a distance. I heard stories about Christians being tossed in jail during the occupation, people being afraid if their young children mentioned anything about religion, etc. What the Communists did to Christianity in occupied Europe gives Western leftists wet dreams, but we certainly haven’t reached that point (yet). Many forget how crucial Christian resistance was to the eventual downfall of Communism. Karl Wojtyla was at least as important as Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher in that regard.

Sun August 8, 2012 at 00:16

One doesn’t have to be Christian or even religious for the matter to be against desecrating a building have a historical and cultural impact.

For example, the Vatican “St. Peter’s Basilica Church” is deserving of more respect then the Islamic Mosque down the street in Italy because of several reasons. 1) It has a longer history. Stemming from the 15th century, it should be more revered. The building is older playing a bigger part in Western Civilization overall, not to mention is general contribution to Art, Architecture, Literature, and other related fields. 2) It is a huge cultural significance to the natives (Italians), whom many if don’t practice religiously, still play an important part in cultural identity.

The Eastern Orthodox Church in Russia is the same.

While I’m not religious or even Christian (you could say I’m culturally Christian but atheist in the I don’t believe in a God per say), I think that their should be harsh punishments for desecrating historical monuments (especially those with a huge cultural impact for such native populations).

There should be respect to the people who not on practice on a religious level but on a cultural and historical level as well. They disrespect the ancestors and traditions of Russia.

If it was up to me, I would sentence them much more then 7 years.

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walking in hell2 August 8, 2012 at 00:32

Putin has seen how rampant feminism destroyed men in Russia. He knows if he does not punish these three bitches, the ugly Russian feminism will raise its head, and take Russia back to the dark ages.

I think the three bitches should be more severely punished.

What a shame that Vladimin Putin is not president of America.

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walking in hell2 August 8, 2012 at 00:51

@Darryl X
“I recommend no mercy for these women.”

I agree. Because of the female nature to lie, cheat, steal, and to seek attention, anything less than severe punishment sends an invitation to all Russian women to become belligerent and disrespectful.

Nothing can destabilize a society faster than women being allowed to spread rumors and behave in a belligerent way. Make the punishment severe, swift, and public.

Vladimir Putin for American president!

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The Whammer August 8, 2012 at 01:03

if the authorities there had attempted to raise places of religious worship, I cannot see how they would have failed,

That church where Pussy Riot performed is actually a recent reproduction of the Christ the Saviour church , the largest Orthodox cathedral, which was blown up by the communists.

And there were only a few mosques in Moscow for the Tartars. The central mosque was demolished on Sept 11, 2011(yes 10 years after 9/11 for some reason) but it was done by the muslims themselves because it was in a state of decay likely the result of the communists that would not permit repairs on religious buildings so in effect they were responsible for destroying it.

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Badpoet August 8, 2012 at 03:03

It’s so fitting for the anti-Christian slut Madonna to be supporting these sacks of sh–.

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Art Vandelay August 8, 2012 at 05:09

I think all that jail time is excessive given that all they did was annoy people and piss of Putin. Nobody was hurt.

Well anyway I see that Walt is laying down the law to Skylar

Finally. That bitch has been going on my nerves.

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crypter27 August 8, 2012 at 05:14

I support Putin & I think this ruling was fair also it lets me know theres no pussy pass in Russia!

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greyghost August 8, 2012 at 06:10

Putin is building a strong Russia. Not trying to get the female vote. He can see how feminised the west is. China knows it too and has made a few family law adjustments on home ownership.

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Uncle Elmer August 8, 2012 at 09:04

“Well anyway I see that Walt is laying down the law to Skylar”

———————

I fast forward through the Skylar scenes.

Do you think Jessie boffed the methylamine chick?

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Anonymous Reader August 8, 2012 at 09:14

Ops
I may however take issue with your final paragraph: the Soviet Union may have been a secular country (as is the United States) but if the authorities there had attempted to raise places of religious worship, I cannot see how they would have failed, yet, it is clear that Christian Churches and Muslim Mosque’s survived – otherwise Pussy Riot’s riot would never have occured.

Opus, I suspect one reason why Pussy Riot has been slammed so hard by the Orthodox is their choice of venue. The Cathedral of Christ the Savior was started in the early 19th century as thanks for Napoleon retreating from Moscow. It took decades to build, and wasn’t ready to use until the 1880′s The first performance of Tchaikovsky’s work “1812 overture” was in that cathedral.

In 1931 on Stalin’s orders the cathedral was blown up with dynamite. A year was spent clearing the rubble, some of the marble went into the Moscow metro system as benches. Some kind of monument was supposed to be built there, but by the 1950′s the site was a huge open air swimming pool.

After the collapse of the USSR, the Orthodox church pushed to rebuild the cathedral. It was reconstructed in the 1990′s.

So let’s review: a cathedral is built to commemorate victory over Napoleon, it’s famous in Russian culture and musical history, Stalin orders it blown up, Kruschev converts the site to a swimming pool, 70-odd years after demolition the Orthodox church rebuilds a replica after the fall of the Soviets – and of all the places in the Moscow area to put on their little performance, Pussy Riot chooses this one. And a lot of average Russians are pissed off at them, for some mysterious reason or other that no one in the West can figure out.

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woggy August 8, 2012 at 15:01

“The three women – Nadezhda Tolokonnikova, 23; Maria Alekhina, 24; and Yekaterina Samutsevich, 29 – have been in custody for five months following the February stunt, in which they took over a church pulpit in Christ the Savior cathedral for less than a minute, singing, high-kicking and dancing.”

In the US, that would hardly get a group of women noticed at all.

Pentecostals have women who act like that.
“Praise Bands” or “Worship Teams” is what they’re called.

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zed August 8, 2012 at 15:15

Putin is building a strong Russia.

Nikita Khrushchev: “We will bury you.”

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Lyn87 August 8, 2012 at 20:41

Prosecutor Alexander Nikiforov portrayed the request as lenient, saying it takes into account the fact that two of the defendants are young mothers and that they have good references.

… and there’s the pass right there. Being a babymomma gets you a reduced sentence even when you criticize the “Dear Leader” in Russia.

By the way: Putin is a corrupt bastard.

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greyghost August 8, 2012 at 22:34

By the way: Putin is a corrupt bastard.

Hell yeah he is

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Opus August 9, 2012 at 01:49

The idea that a Pole – of all people – living in Rome could have had any effect on the demise of the Soviet Union , is surely, wishful thinking. As your former President used to say ‘It is the economy stupid’.

Not that I have any particular regard for Russians themselves – who I would not trust further than I can throw them (and I speak as a victim of threatened Chechen violence) – and I can only add Ubermind to my growing list of gratuitously offensive (ex) soviets.

Even if the Soviets had raised every single Church or Mosque they clearly had little effect on the religious belief – which sugggests to me that they were hardly trying.

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joeb August 9, 2012 at 09:20

IT makes me laugh when I here sentiments of the old cold war , McCarthyism’s of Russians hiding under your bed . It totally undermines the topic: like it did then and sways the conversation towards unreasonable hatred .
I’m envious of the new Russia . At least the men there put a stop to feminist garbage without fear of getting ego punched Some countries still celebrate being Male.

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greyghost August 9, 2012 at 09:21

Russia also has a low birth rate. one way to increase birth rate as germany is doing without luck is to have free day care and other “incentives” for women to choose to have a child. Typical beta “what can i do to make you happy stuff” Another way is to treat women outside of the house just as harshly as men are treated (like adults with consequences for actions) example would be “I’m not happy” the response would be “so what nobody is just make sure you have the rent in full tomorrow morning.” Another example a man can’t pay child support throw him in jail. a waoman can’t pay or take care of the child take the child and throw her in jail that policy works wonders to strenthen the family and doesn’t cost any thing like the copst of welfare and food stamps WIC etc etc.
I’m willing to bet with out looking that the birth rate in Russia is slowly going up now while it is going down in the femminised west loaded with all of the misandry to aid women.

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Anonymous Reader August 9, 2012 at 11:48

Opus
Even if the Soviets had raised every single Church or Mosque

Dear Opus, the Soviets destroyed, or razed, churches. Since the fall of the USSR, the Orthodox have raised some of them back up. You’re too intelligent to be fooled by those silly homonyms.

they clearly had little effect on the religious belief – which sugggests to me that they were hardly trying.

Dear Opus, to be blunt: you are ignorant. Please do go read all three volumes of Solzhenytsin’s “Gulag Archapelago” and then get back to us. Your denial of the horrible things done from the very beginning of the Soviet tyranny is not to your credit.

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zed August 9, 2012 at 12:50

IT makes me laugh when I here sentiments of the old cold war , McCarthyism’s of Russians hiding under your bed .

It’s hard to get across a smirk in a comment. Mine was smirking. I, personally, admire Putin because he has a couple of things that few western leaders have had for decades – backbone and balls.

When Khrushchev said they would bury us, he was talking about feeding us socialism one bite at a time until most of the populace demanded it. My perception is that has happened in spades. Greece, Portugal, Spain, and Italy are a few years ahead of us, but when people riot in the streets because the government has to cut government benefits because they are broke, it is a sign that most people are addicted to the public tit.

In general, I think the US is more socialist than Russia is now.

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Hugh August 9, 2012 at 17:00

The punishment is excessive??? The MRA is consistently arguing and complaining that women don’t get the same sentences as men for equal crimes. Perhaps we could finally learn a thing from Russia. Didn’t we already learn what happened from this very same country under the Soviet system what happened when you treated religious buildings and symbols with no respect at all? Funny how an atheist group just awarded a TWELVE YEAR OLD GIRL a thousand dollars for giving a speech about somehow being “offended” by prayer being conducted at a city meeting in OUR country. Can’t wait till SHE starts a “pussy riot” band of her own and gets applauded here… The asylum is now being run by the inmates over here.

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Stick August 9, 2012 at 18:09

I wonder if Madonna or the usual cast of ‘International celebrities’ would bitch so much if Pussy Riot had invaded a mosque?

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Matt August 9, 2012 at 18:43

no, because you would have seen their heads floating in the river. Pussy Riot knows better then to f*** with muslims. Celebrities are one of the most cowardly groups there is. Christianity is easy to mock and bash because there are no consequences. Islam, however is a different story. Their idea of “speaking truth to power” is accepting another award at some meaningless ceremony.

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Opus August 10, 2012 at 11:51

@Anonymous Reader

It may be that I am too gullible, though I may be forgiven perhaps for not realising that the Basilica where Pussy Riot’s performance took place was a recent rebuilding rather than the original (that’s Post-Modernism for you) but even if the Soviet’s destroyed every Church and Synagogue, the fact remains that they did not destroy religious belief or even the specific religions that had been worshipped before the 1917 revolution. Of course it is always possible that the Orthodox were praying privately and the Muslims likewise without any disruption to those religions – but if so I would like to hear about it – for then the power of religion would truly be unshakeable – and I am not at all convinced that it is!

As for Solzhenitzyen: I have always thought him a bit of a fraud, who was useful to the West up until 1990, so you will forgive me if I do not take, up the offer to read his 3 volume novel. Russians rather have a reputation for dissimulation! Part of my suspicion about what we say in the West about the Soviets is caused by the fact that in talking to ex-Soviets I find just how false so much of the propaganda that was put to us was. I won’t bore you with the details at least not on this thread; indeed I would not have returned to it at all were it not that I was disgusted to see as a Banner to the on-line Guardian that Amnesty International are seeking donations to keep Pussy Riot out of prison. That organisation is despicable – they only support their own favoured left wing, misandrist and western causes, and all right thinking people should fail to contribute to them. They (like the RSPCA aanother despicable organisation) tend to do the opposite of what people think they do. Avoid

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Anonymous Reader August 10, 2012 at 21:02

Opus
It may be that I am too gullible, though I may be forgiven perhaps for not realising that the Basilica where Pussy Riot’s performance took place was a recent rebuilding rather than the original (that’s Post-Modernism for you) but even if the Soviet’s destroyed every Church and Synagogue, the fact remains that they did not destroy religious belief or even the specific religions that had been worshipped before the 1917 revolution.

It wasn’t for lack of trying. For example, in some regions, following the orders of Lenin, “voluntary” work days for peasants were conveniently created on various Orthodox feast days – days when their religion required them to not work, and to go to church. The Bolsheviks would then arrest anyone who didn’t show up for their “voluntary” work. Those who did not work, or whose work was unsatisfactory, could be charged with “wrecking”, an economic crime that was the civilian equivalent to desertion by a soldier. The punishment could be execution, although some sentences were commuted to many years in a penal camp. This is but one example.

You really are ignorant, or credulous, or both.

Of course it is always possible that the Orthodox were praying privately

Yes, obviously. Just as Christians in China and North Korea are doing, some of them right now. Chinese caught in a “house church” can expect similar treatment to what the Falun Gong get – extended, harsh, re-education sentence. Do I need to spell out what happens in North Korea, a state run along Stalinist lines?

and the Muslims likewise without any disruption to those religions

Stalin deported as many Chechen Moslems to Siberia as the secret police could catch in the years right after WWII. However, he didn’t kill quite enough of them, so that particular genocide attempt failed.

And your point?

– but if so I would like to hear about it – for then the power of religion would truly be unshakeable – and I am not at all convinced that it is!

I see that you have larger issues, that lead you to deny historical facts. That’s your problem, not mine.

As for Solzhenitzyen: I have always thought him a bit of a fraud, who was useful to the West up until 1990, so you will forgive me if I do not take, up the offer to read his 3 volume novel.

I’m sure you regard Conquest’s “Harvest of Sorrow”, Medvedev’s “Let History Judge” (2nd edition) and all the other exposures of Soviet evil as also fiction. Do you also regard the Katyn Forest massacre as a hoax?

Russians rather have a reputation for dissimulation! Part of my suspicion about what we say in the West about the Soviets is caused by the fact that in talking to ex-Soviets I find just how false so much of the propaganda that was put to us was.

Yes, of course. All those Polish intellectuals, army officers, professors, teachers, etc. found buried in the forest surely just committed mass suicide, after the Soviets invaded their country in 1939. And all of the Old Bosheviks who were executed in the 1930′s were surely guilty of all the crimes they confessed to, just as the 6 million Ukranians who perished in the Holodomar surely starved themselves to death out to spite Stalin. It couldn’t be that Stalin was a bigger criminal than Hitler, no, no, a thousand times no.

Is Walter Duranty as much of a hero to you as he is to the NY TImes?

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Edson August 17, 2012 at 17:35

I don’t like Putin, he is a false Christian and he is only using the Orthodox Church to remain in power. Unfortunately, the Russian Orthodox leaders believe that this bastard is a religious person.

The main objective of this feminist group that was desecrates a Christian Temple, why they protested in front of the Kremlin? Of course, Pussy Riot is a typical anti-religious hate of feminists already known here in the West.

Putin was only a ragged excuse to show their hatred against the Orthodox Church and all Christendom.

Unfortunately, Westerners which continue faithful to the Christian traditions suffer persecution on all sides as if we lived in Muslim-majority country.

Putin despite false Christian protects Russians against gay propaganda and punishes people who desecrate religious temples.

I support and pray that in future Russia is governed by a truly Christian conservative. When this happens until abortion will be criminalized in Russia.

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