What Feminism Teaches Little Girls

by W.F. Price on July 25, 2012

The image shows clearly what prepubescent girls (this one is eight) are being taught in our schools:

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Opus July 25, 2012 at 09:05

Hoax

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Rebel July 25, 2012 at 09:13

Just one question: what do they do to improve little boys’s self-esteem?

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Okrahead July 25, 2012 at 09:23

Well, if we could just edit out the stuff about “creative” and “jobs” she’d be right on track.

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livingwell July 25, 2012 at 09:32

I have a penis, bad attitude, and can give a shit about your “gift” and therefore get all the 35 year old plus vagina I want. You have no special gift little one. You’re just another reproduction unit with many years of disappoint and cats in you’re future.

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Lara July 25, 2012 at 09:47

She definitely isn’t going to win the spelling bee.

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Andie July 25, 2012 at 09:47

@ Rebel

We have penises
We run the companies and organizations that provide people with jobs
We are creative
We have stuff that makes women pregnant
We have muscles on our chest
We are smart
We have power

There ya go!

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zed July 25, 2012 at 09:47

Opus: “Hoax”

Second.

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slwerner July 25, 2012 at 09:52

Okrahead – “Well, if we could just edit out the stuff about “creative” and “jobs” she’d be right on track.”
You could also take out the stuff about “smart” and “boob milk” (which is only true of lactating women, anyway).

Reduce it down to it’s essential elements, and correct for spelling errors, and it’s dead-on:

“We have vagina’s. We have power”

Well, I suppose that a more correct way of putting it would be:
“We have vagina’s. Men want our vagina’s. Thus, we are afforded power by men who want our vagina’s, and thus we and wield great power over men owing entirely to our vagina’s”

I think that about sums it up.[/snark]

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Uncle Elmer July 25, 2012 at 09:52

“We have aigs. We can freze them and have carirs.”

or

Will a Pregnant and Fashion-Wary Marissa Meyer Have it All While Implementing 50 Shades of Gray in the Boardroom?

or

How Millennial Women And Their Eggs Can Have It All

http://www.forbes.com/sites/deniserestauri/2012/07/25/how-millennial-women-and-their-eggs-can-have-it-all

Last week, Marissa Mayer, 37 years old, was the talk of the technology world – and beyond. She was appointed CEO of Yahoo and announced her pregnancy. “Some people get lucky in the timing of life,” says Dr. Devi. “Now you can optimize your luck, you can strategize better so chances are increased.”

She continues: “I see women in their 30s without children, but with careers that are in full steam ahead mode. These women want children in the future. But they’re so busy with work that they can’t take time to date, let alone find Mr. Right (if there is such a person). These women are racing against their biological clocks and the anxieties they are experiencing is heartbreaking. But if women can have all of their biological options open to them, then they can pick and choose. If women plan it right, they can have different parts of ‘all’ at different times, without regrets down the road.”

elmer starts the conversation :

Modern women’s fixation on having “careers” instead of children while they are young and fertile with the expectation (no pun intended) that later in life they can get pregnant partner or not is a sad spectacle indeed.

Would that ForbesWoman publish some essays on the very real option of getting married young, having 3-4 children before 30, then embarking on a “career” after the age of 40. For all the talk about women’s empowerment and career options there seems to be real terror at the possibility of missing out on a 20-year stretch sitting in a cubicle scheming against co-workers and feeling vaguely dissatisfied with upper management rather than immersing in the pleasure of living in the magical world of young children.

Why ladies think it’s so much better to sit in a windowless conference room trying to get an important word in with a bunch of middle-aged drones who hate you than to lay on a hillside watching clouds with your 3 year-old is baffling indeed. After 20 years those drones won’t even remember your name while those children will have grown into adults that actually care about you and will be around to provide companionship and meaning in your old age.

You should be very hesitant to bank on biomedical technology to provide children for you when you are long past your nubian prime.

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slwerner July 25, 2012 at 10:18

Lara – “She definitely isn’t going to win the spelling bee.”

You do understand that the misspellings were part of the attempt to “sell” the hoax, don’t you?

Even if there was an 8 year-old girl who used the term “vagina“, if she could spell “creative“, she could certainly have spelled both “vagina” and “boobs“.

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zed July 25, 2012 at 10:38

“We have vagina’s. We have power”

I think that about sums it up.

Out of the mouths of babies…

I’m sure than the nuances of the source of their pussy-power will elude girls for many years, slwerner, but it is crystal clear that they are aware, even at a young age, of having it.

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Sam Vincente July 25, 2012 at 11:18

Preanet girls with veginas and bobes!

Hopefully in her next 8 years they’ll teach her something useful like spelling.

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Eric July 25, 2012 at 11:29

Opus/Zed/Slwerner:

Hoax? Maybe. But it’s also not unheard-of that politically-correct teachers give children at that age considerable ‘coaching’ on messages being given out to the public.

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Darryl X July 25, 2012 at 11:38

Yeah, I think it’s a hoax but unfortunately it’s believable.

Actually, cupcake left out a bunch of things:

1) an inflated sense of entitlement and an incomprehensibly vast legal, political, social and financial machine to help her realize it
2) an underdeveloped sense of remorse, shame, guilt, empathy, and conscience
3) a lack of analytical skills, sense, reason and logic
4) a propensity for compulsive pathological lying, deception, manipulation, parasitism and opportunism
5) poor grammar and an inability to spell (which will go a long way to helping her obfuscate reality)
6) delusions

I dunno about the milk thingy. Grocery stores and cows have milk but they haven’t taken over the world.

But she does have a vagina. And in a few years she’ll probably have a venereal disease to go with it.

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Rebel July 25, 2012 at 11:40

I know that this is off topics, but today, I see a large number of chemtrails in the sky. Never saw that many. There are at least 25-30 of them. Two hours ago, the sky was clear but now I am starting to see white clouds forming. I am puzzled..

I would not bet more than a dollar on the future careers of those little powerful and roaring vagina girls: they may bee too busy fighting cancer.

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Darryl X July 25, 2012 at 11:43

@ slwerner -

“Even if there was an 8 year-old girl who used the term “vagina“, if she could spell “creative“, she could certainly have spelled both “vagina” and “boobs“.”

You’re kidding me, right? I know adult women who work for and hold high rank in the federal government and can’t spell boobs or vagina. Futrelle’s a man (I guess) and he thinks “boobs” is spelled with a “z”. LOL

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Darryl X July 25, 2012 at 11:49

@ Uncle Elmer -

“Why ladies think it’s so much better to sit in a windowless conference room trying to get an important word in with a bunch of middle-aged drones who hate you than to lay on a hillside watching clouds with your 3 year-old is baffling indeed.”

I’m not baffled. My experience is that most women hate (HATE!) children. They only have them as a meal ticket. That’s why they kidnap them from their fathers, who actually do recognize the value of children beyond being a meal ticket, and hold them hostage for ransom.

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Towgunner July 25, 2012 at 11:49

What does it teach girls? That they’re entitled hence the part about “jobs”. I love how devolved we’ve become, because you can take this note, bad spelling and grammar included, and apply it to adult women too. Whereas men contributed science, art, philosophy, theology, engineering etc to posterity…women, being the absolute and undeniable superior to men, point to their vaginas and boobies as their contribution. That’s right, after all the trials and tribulations of humanity; we’ve apparently progressed to the point where our private parts are the most important things. And on that note, don’t forget that women are smart too. FYI – I’ll be posting my first video on youtude just search youtube Towgunner.

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NWOslave July 25, 2012 at 11:53

Maybe it’s a parody of the pathetic entitlement mentality of modern women?

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Lsmbr July 25, 2012 at 12:15

She inherited her vegina from her father.

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Anonnymous July 25, 2012 at 12:45

A victim-parasite of the future.

Independently dependant that is.

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FreeHat July 25, 2012 at 13:09

I’d be interested to know where this image came from. That might give some clues as to whether this is a hoax or not.

Hoax or not though, this seems believable enough. Assuming this is real I dread to think of how the boys in that girl’s class felt. Something along the lines of “why do we need another lesson on how great girls are?” perhaps.

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Keyster July 25, 2012 at 13:10

This entitled, superior, solipsistic attitude is being conditioned into them by the time they’re able to understand language and express themselves, at about the age of 2.

They carefully observe the differences in how their mother interacts with their father and other men, as opposed to other women. She talks in an argumentative tone of disrespect to father, whereas the exchanges with other women seem cordial and balanced.

She’s “daddy’s little princess” and he won’t dare try and discipline her for fear of appearing to “harsh” or “mean”. He’ll never say NO to
princess, because she’ll become upset and might stop loving him.

She sees how the woman at DayCare treats the boys versus the girls; how they’re shamed and firmly scolded for being loud, aggressive and energetic, or simply acting like a boy. Whereas the girls are praised for accomplishing the least little thing, especially if they do something as well as a boy.

She watches children’s shows and cartoons where the girl characters are always the whip-smart, forthright and sassy leaders, while the boys are perpetually confused, emotional and lazy. Even the supposedly androgynous animal characters with girl voices are bold, inventive and strong, while the boy or male voiced characters are either oafish dolts or antagonistic adverseries the characters must overcome.

Adults (and MRA’s) have no idea how feminist dogma has infiltrated children’s programming. An adult would never notice the subtly of how they interweave feminist/grrl power themes throughout the stories. To the extent boys are included at all it’s as foils to make the girls seem smart. Some are more obvious than others. It’s all about slowly indocrinating those impressionable little minds through subliminal social messaging;…

…that girls are more deserving because they’re superior to boys in everyway.

Watch early Saturday morning cartoons and be astounded at how they infuse feminist/female superiority themes throughout the stories, and then you’ll know why little girls are acting as recalcitrant and entitled as their older sisters, at such a young age. And why boys are either sullen and withdrawn or acting out aggressively.

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zed July 25, 2012 at 13:15

Yeah, I think it’s a hoax but unfortunately it’s believable.

And the best hoaxes are the ones that are believable, or at least appeal to certain ingrained beliefs of specific groups of people.

Back in the 60s there was a very popular poster with a quote about students rioting in the streets, attributed to Adolf Hitler. It fit right in to the “down the establishment because they are all corrupt” mentality of the time, and in fact it was fabricated just to capitalize on it.
(http://bytwerk.com/gpa/falsenaziquotations.htm)

The flip side of this is that women were predisposed to think the worst of men, which is why the “1 in 4″ and “77 cents” hoaxes have taken such hold over their minds.

While this very probably accurately reflects the mentality of many 8 y/o girls, I don’t think that the “untrue, but accurate” approach will serve us well.

On its face, the tidy penmanship of the first couple of lines, compared with what looks like a tortured attempt to reproduce the printing of someone just learning to write, invites skepticism regarding both its authenticity and purpose.

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slwerner July 25, 2012 at 13:22

Darryl X – “You’re kidding me, right?”

It’s not surprising that some woman can’t even spell. What I was pointing to was that “she” could spell creative correctly (phonetically, a more challenging word than boobs, (a word she’d no doubt have seen on multiple occasions), vagina, or even “pregnant.

Plus, if you zoom in on the word “smart”, you can see that the line crossing the “T” is not continuous with the line extending from the “R”, which makes it look like an “F”. The “r” in that word “smart” is generally consistent with the other “R”‘s – except for that extra line. My guess is that it was the mistake of someone trying to emulate a child’s writing, but neglecting to notice that they were trying to emulate the “R” and mistakenly adding the line to make int an “F”.

As too the basic response itself, I agree with Eric that it could well be simply a well-coached answer that an 8 year-old girl might give (I doubt an 8 year old actually understands the reproductive process well enough to innately equate her (what ever term an 8 year old would actually use for her vagina) with it’s value within either the sexual market place nor within the cycle of life. She’s have to be specifically told what to say, IMHO).

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Keyster July 25, 2012 at 13:25

O/T -
Men’s Health Alert!
Have you seen the news?
Cases of men developing throat, mouth or tongue cancer is rising at an alarming rate as the result of contracting HPV earlier in their lives. (Women who had HPV are contracting cervical cancer.)

I can’t imagine why men are contracting cancer of the throat, mouth or tongue and yet women get it in their vajayjays. The media won’t speculate and the experts aren’t talking. Ya wanna know why? Because they’re scared shitless to announce that men should stop eating pussy to avoid getting cancer. That’s Matriarchy!

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Troll King July 25, 2012 at 13:34

@Towgunner,

Good comment.

As for the devolution of our species, all one has to do is look at the progression of art and compare it with the rise in female power.

Painting get less and less articulate and complex the more women gained power in the arts. Hell, I can paint a picture that looks like a photograph but it wouldn’t sell unless it was a landscape. Then it would only sell for doctor offices and accountant offices at a few hundred a piece if that.

All the while women and girls have their finger painting and breast painting and even menstrual blood paintings placed in exhibits and museums.

Links:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/02/russian-artist-paints-wit_n_667850.html

http://www.bangkokpost.com/learning/learning-from-news/298613/breast-painting-is-it-art-or-even-a-talent

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3078082/Artists-boobs-are-her-brushes.html

http://www.asylum.com/2010/08/04/kira-ayn-varszegi-paints-with-38dd-breasts/

http://www.kommiekomiks.com/blood-intro.htm

http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/cultist/2009/09/gab_studio_art_opening_brickel.php

http://blood-art.livejournal.com/

http://myperiodblog.wordpress.com/2011/12/08/painting-with-menstrual-blood/

http://www.mum.org/armene.htm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2141680/Aelita-Andre-Paintings-worlds-youngest-professional-artist-5-whos-earned-100k.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/06/four-year-old-aelita-andr_n_872137.html

Feminists promised that if we only liberated and educated the other half of the population then they would outshine men and create even more. They claimed that women were capable but held back by men…..

Now that they have the reigns they are obviously outshining rembrandt and michealangelo and so on…right guys?

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Charles Martel July 25, 2012 at 13:51

Links:

Original image.

Reddit.

HuffPo.

This seems appropriate for some reason.

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Darryl X July 25, 2012 at 14:17

@ slwerner – “You’re kidding me, right?”

I know. I was just trying to make light of this development. But it probably isn’t worth the space.

@ zed – “And the best hoaxes are the ones that are believable, or at least appeal to certain ingrained beliefs of specific groups of people.”

Agreed. If this is a hoax, that it is credible is what makes it so disturbing. I am very well of many girls taught at an early age to actively use their sexuality for maniupating men. Of course, most of those young girls are taught it by their single whoring mothers. So no surprise there. Fruit never falls far from the tree and all.

I do not believe that women believe things like one in four women on college campuses are raped every year. I do not believe that women believe that they only make seventy-seven cents to a man’s dollar.

I DO believe, however, that women lack any analytical skills to understand any of it. I also believe they lack the conscience and empathy to care. I also believe that they are so opportunistic that they will use these lies to their advantage at every opportunity possible.

So they will not fall for just any old hoax but only the ones that benefit them. Especially if it is at someone else’s advantage. And if the truth does not benefit them, then they will attack it vehemently and incessantly and without sense or reason.

BUT they have the capacity to develop and exercise analytical skills and empathy and a conscience. And they have the capacity to not be opportunistic. They have made a choice.

Which is why I always maintain that women are not bimbos. They are evil. They are the product of all the bad choices they have made throughout their lives and the consequences of those bad choices keep accumulating and are imposed upon everyone else around them.

They need to be taught that there are consequences to their choices. They need to be punished. Many people including MRA’s believe that eventually all their evil deeds will catch up to them and then they will be sorry. But that won’t happen with the way our system works until all the real men have been destroyed first. We are the meat-shields for the massacre by them and the feminists.

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Darryl X July 25, 2012 at 14:21

@ Martel -

I couldn’t help but think with that last one that the little boy might just as well be staring down the barrel of a gun.

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Andie July 25, 2012 at 15:14

@ Darryl X – BUT they have the capacity to develop and exercise analytical skills and empathy and a conscience. And they have the capacity to not be opportunistic. They have made a choice

Absolutely!

I don’t want to go all NAWALT on you, but I am a very smart, very educated woman and it is BECAUSE I am intelligent and educated that I can see how absolutely utterly morally wrong it is for women with children to sit in a boardroom competing with men while their little ones are sobbing at daycare.

It is a moral failing to have children that you have no intention of providing the most basic necessities for – food, clothing, a home, love, affection, ATTENTION. You have to be there. If your brain is working properly, you should WANT to be there. Both men and women undergo profound chemical changes in the presence of their infants, strongly suggesting that we have evolved to care for our babies together.

In our current economic environment, that means men make a living and women make the living worthwhile and in doing so meet their most profound moral obligations to their family.

These girls are being taught to hate men, to hate babies, to hate the very things that will make them happy. They are being sold misery and taught to cheer about it.

But trust me. A younger generation of women has been watching from the sidelines and they are not stupid. Just last night our engineering friend was asked to come by his girlfriend’s house for a “chat”. The chat was that she was unwilling to raise her children in a daycare and if the relationship was going to proceed, he needed to know that. She is a health care professional and she will go back to work when the (hypothetical) youngest child is in school, but she wanted that clear up front.

That gives me hope. This girl is smart, educated, has her shit together, earns a great living, has bought a house, works a side job to pay for luxuries, saves her money and she wants to be a wife and mother. A real one. One that is present and accounted for.

There are more and more of us. Raised by feminist mothers, many of whom truly are evil. They have made terrible choices and laugh at the consequences. They care for no one but themselves.

We are the daughters of these women. And we have taken the pink pill.

We see.

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Thos. July 25, 2012 at 15:57

I help make the tech with which you read this.
I learn a new skill set every 16 months.
I make car payments.
I had hair.

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ode July 25, 2012 at 16:14

There are 70 food calories in 100 mL of breast milk.
1 food calorie == 1.16Wh (watt hours)
70 * 1.16 ==
81.2 Wh energy in 100 mL of breast milk
Li ion batteries have an energy density of 400 Wh per Liter or
40 Wh energy per 100 mL

Therefore breast milk has twice the energy density of Lithion ion batteries. I agree women do possess “Power”.

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Rebel July 25, 2012 at 17:06

“Therefore breast milk has twice the energy density of Lithion ion batteries. I agree women do possess “Power”.”

Yes indeed!

LOL!

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MRA July 25, 2012 at 17:40

Here is the source, her dad posted the picture on reddit

http://www.reddit.com/r/Parenting/comments/wuuwy/my_8_year_old_daughters_unexpected_response_to_a/

Most of the comments are hilarious.

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Eric July 25, 2012 at 17:42

Keyster:
You’re right about this attitude of superiority and entitlement being instilled in girls from a very early age: completely reinforced by both academia and the media—as well as the vicious, man-hating single mom most girls grow up with today.

This is why American women simply should be avoided. Even ‘tradcon’ and ‘socon’ women exhibit the same tendencies as feminist ones, because the culture conditions and educates them identically.

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Charles Martel July 25, 2012 at 17:45

Andie
Just last night our engineering friend was asked to come by his girlfriend’s house for a “chat”. The chat was that she was unwilling to raise her children in a daycare and if the relationship was going to proceed, he needed to know that.

That’s peachy for her, but it’s the worst possible setup for a man. When the divorce goes down the man will be compelled to pay punitive levels of alimony and child support to his stay-at-home wife. He’ll be punished by the family court judge for the heinous crime of forcing his ex to give up her career. There’s no safe harbor for a man.

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Anti Idiocy July 25, 2012 at 18:12

It might be a hoax, but to me it looks more like a Ph.D. thesis in Women’s Studies.

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Troll King July 25, 2012 at 18:22

@andie.

I know that there are women in my age group, Gen Y, that are like you. Women who want to be mothers, the problem is that they are still rare. Even worse, just because they want some traditional arrangements doesn’t mean they are not without feminist leanings or bitchitude.

Now, I don’t know you and I won’t cast dispersions on your character. I will, however, point out that it ultimately doesn’t matter how great and motherly a “pink” pill woman is because the system is still rigged to screw over men.

I know of several guys who have great gfs. These gfs cook for them and are fun to hang around with and are feminine and from what I see with these few couples is that they really don’t fight at all cause the women are laid back and chill.

These gfs want desperately to get married and have children, the guys want nothing to do with it. Yknow why?

Any guy in his 20s or early 30s or even late teens has more than likely worked atleast one crappy male oriented job. I worked on a stock crew and then worked my way up through every grocery dept from pricing co-ordinator to deli to produce and ultimately became a butcher before I went to college. This took several years.

Most guys have done something similiar, even if it was just for a semester or two in college or during summer break or after flunking out for a semester or whatever. I can’t even count the number of guys I have known over the past 8 years who have worked in the restaurant businesses to one degree or another. Some have also worked retail and others construction or floor repair and so on.

From what I have been able to tell, and keep in mind that all of these guys are either 2 or 3 years younger than me or older than me (just turned 29), they all have had the same experiences.

Not a single one doesn’t have atleast one psycho bitch ex gf. Not a single one hasn’t heard dozens and dozens of first hand accounts about baby mommas and child support and “family” court. Not a single one of us has not worked with dozens of divorced guys, who often times have advanced degree compared to what they are working at, complain about exes and divorce court and so on.

All of these guys I am talking about are childless and drift from one relationship to another or they actually found a few great girls and have kept them for years, sometimes longer than I have even known them.

My point is that all of these guys, to one degree or another, know what the score is. I don’t have to deal with family court, I never have, to know that it is bullshit. I figured it out at 18, if not earlier, because all but two girls in my clique got pregnant and more than half of the guys got a girl pregnant. Then I worked on a stock crew for half a year, with a huge turnover rate, and met dozens upon dozens of guys who were divorced or got a girl pregnant and were paying more in CS than they brought home.

I distinctly remember seeing a guy run over his own foot with a pallet jack. He didn’t listen to me, I was the assistant stock manager and most of the 30 something guys didn’t like taking orders from a 18/19 year old, and he fucked up and crushed his foot. After sobbing like a girl and letting us bind his foot, he decided he was going to turn himself in on his arrears because he didn’t have insurance and hadn’t worked at the store long enough to get insurance and atleast the jail would have to treat his wound. I drove him to the hospital and then to the police station where they cuffed him.

I worked with a friend from middle and HS in the meat dept. He had gotten a girl pregnant, who was fucking three other guys at the same time, our senior year. He wouldn’t listen to me when I talked about paternity testing, I had another friend that went that route and found out the kid wasn’t his (this was all before I even knew what the MRM was or that it existed and I even called myself a pro-feminist man back then, aaagh the ignorance of youth), but then told me about how she left him off the birth certificate.

She left the father part blank and told him that it was his. He didn’t know his father growing up, he had never met the man and his mother didn’t tell him much and I honestly don’t know enough to know whether she even knew who he was.

He confided in me several times about the pain of growing up without a father, he was determined to break the cycle and raise his kid. He paid her CS even though he didn’t have to and even though it wasn’t court ordered or anythihng. It took him thousands of dollars and more than a year to finally get some custody and visitation and then that backfired on him because she and her family really didn’t want him to have anything to do with the child so they got the judge to make the CS more than what he made in a month. Last I saw of him he was working two jobs and trying to stay out of jail due to arrears and this really fucking breaks my heart because he spent so much money, on unofficial CS and lawyers, just to get one or two days a week with “his” kid and the baby momma hated him even more for that so solved it by upping the CS so much.

These are just a couple of my own life stories, I got dozens of more from my own life and have heard hundreds more second hand.

I guess my point is this:

If I met the perfect woman tomorrow, I mean absolutely perfect in every way. A woman who was the living embodiment of everything I could ever desire or fantasize about and she told me she would give me anything I wanted and do anything I asked and even better would do what I wanted without me even having to ask….

well, if she came into my life tomorrow and promised me all that and all I had to do was marry her…..

I would walk away. NO! FUCKING! WAY!!1!! Am I getting involved in this fucked up system that destroys men. I have seen it destroy countless men and I simply won’t do it.

If you want to help at all then I suggest that you contact that engineer friend of yours and hand him some MRM material and tell him not to marry a woman, especially a woman who wants to stay home, and to never have children with a woman because MARRIAGE IS RETIREMENT FOR WOMEN!!!

Yknow, every now and then I do kinda feel sorry for some younger women who are getting the brunt of this due to their mothers choices but then I remind myself that I don’t care and I won’t pedestalize women and if they have a problem with it then it is WOMEN who needs to fix the social contract because they are the ones who broke it.

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Rocco July 25, 2012 at 18:25

@ Zed

It could be real, IMO. The writing at the top is probably done by the teacher, possibly with OCD, the bottom a child.

Actually she only has three spelling errors on hard words vegina, pregent (leaves out the g and n), and bobes. One of the harest things in 3rd grade are the oo words

She has a serious problem with her letter size and the “r” in smart is a good example of the large range of letter size she’s using.

It looks like my sons hw when he was 8 and believe me, I reviewed every one.

Notice the difference in the level of awareness from years of indocrtination on TV, in books and mags. She can’t spell it but know it’s boobs that milk comes from.

And that her power comes from a spot alittle lower.

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Troll King July 25, 2012 at 18:45

OT

OMFG….

How dare a filthy and lowly man question anything about a woman, the damned “misogynist” should know his place in the pecking order.

http://www.wickedlocal.com/community/blogs/applesauce/x1975587322/Right-wing-pundit-wonders-if-women-saved-by-boyfriends-in-Aurora-shooting-spree-were-worth-it

And of course Mangina Extraordinaire Bill Bennet is at it again, this time he wants all young men to remember the three young men who sacrificed their lives in Aurora so that future generations of men will die as meatshields for women.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/25/opinion/bennett-aurora-three/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

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WGMOW July 25, 2012 at 19:32

You have vegetables for brains. You give hand jobs. You create havoc and discord. You have stuff that makes you act like a schizophrenic howler monkey every month. You have fat in your tits. You are so stupid you can’t spell “smart”. The gub’mint lets you pretend you have power. You are so pathetic you make me want to get a sex change.

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zed July 25, 2012 at 20:15

There are more and more of us. Raised by feminist mothers, many of whom truly are evil. They have made terrible choices and laugh at the consequences. They care for no one but themselves.

We are the daughters of these women. And we have taken the pink pill.

We see.

And what is it that you see? That the kind of men your feminist mothers did everything they possibly could to destroy turned out to be more useful to women than your mothers realized?

As Charles Martel said above – that’s all peachy for her, but when she becomes unhaaappppy and wants an EPL divorce, it will suddenly get spun that big mean old hubby “forced” her to give up her satisfying career and her “great living” and chained her to the stove barefoot and pregnant. He will spend the rest of his life in debt.

It’s funny how even supposedly “non-feminist” women think they can lay down the law to men. I wonder if your friend’s girlfriend has studied the ratios and economics of the fact that women have been getting the majority of college degrees since the 1980s, and Affirmative Action has given them the majority of jobs where they can make a “great living.” And, has she accurately assessed his financial picture and vetted him as a man who can provide both of them, plus their kids, a “great living?”

The Jesuits have a saying “Give us the boy until he is seven, and we will give you the man.” Well, most of this culture gave the boys of marrying age today to “feminist mothers” for 7 years, starting in 1985, and in 1992 they gave us the men who are marrying women today.

We have taken the red pill. We see, too. Unfortunately, what we see is not how useful we can be to a woman who wants to be a full time nanny to her own kids, but that we have to make the choice to be “walking in hell”, and can also choose not to.

I wonder if your friend’s girlfriend has her next mark lined up in case your friend declines the ultimatum and decides to walk.

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zed July 25, 2012 at 20:42

Just last night our engineering friend was asked to come by his girlfriend’s house for a “chat”. The chat was that she was unwilling to raise her children in a daycare and if the relationship was going to proceed, he needed to know that.

Sounds like a shit test to me. Run, Forrest, run.

“Sign here, on the dotted line, RIGHT NOW.”

Reminds me a bit of the old Meatloaf song, “Paradise by the Dashboard Light” –

GIRL:
Stop right there!
I gotta know right now!
Before we go any further!
Do you love me?
Will you love me forever?
Do you need me?
Will you never leave me?
Will you make me so happy for the rest of my life?
Will you take me away and will you make me your wife?
Do you love me!?
Will you love me forever!?
Do you need me!?
Will you never leave me!?
Will you make me happy for the rest of my life!?
Will you take me away and will you make me your wife!?
I gotta know right now
Before we go any further
Do you love me!?
Will you love me forever!?

BOY:
Let me sleep on it
Baby, baby let me sleep on it
Let me sleep on it
And I’ll give you an answer in the morning

GIRL:
I gotta know right now
Do you love me?
Will you love me forever?
Do you need me?
Will you never leave me?
Will you make me so happy for the rest of my life?
Will you take me away and will you make me your wife?
I gotta know right now!
Before we go any further
Do you love me?
And will you love me forever?

BOY:
I couldn’t take it any longer
Lord I was crazed
And when the feeling came upon me
Like a tidal wave
I started swearing to my god and on my mother’s grave
That I would love you to the end of time
I swore that I would love you to the end of time!
So now I’m praying for the end of time
To hurry up and arrive
‘Cause if I gotta spend another minute with you
I don’t think that I can really survive

This is nothing but a power play for who has hand over the relationship.

Poor little beta-boy, it may take years before he figures out what hit him.

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Keyster July 25, 2012 at 21:21

What really matters is that this precocious little ball-buster in training exhibits SELF-ESTEEM. It’s irrelevant whether she displays any other talents or unique skills, as long as she believes in HERself as the exhalted gender vis a vis the superflous if not repugnant male.

Imagine an 8 year old boy sharing the same high regard for his gender.
“We have penises! We get girls pregnant with our penises. We’re smart and we’re strong. We run faster and can throw a ball right. We have power!” He’d be reprimanded and his parents brought in for a special parent/teacher conference.

Yet the delicate flower is lauded for her moxy and sophisticated self-awareness, all the while cognizant of “grrl power chic” as something stylish and trendy that seems to please adults.

The first Lesbian in space Sally Ride was remembered for “shattering the barriers for girls to get into science”. Yet there were no examples of any accomplished women they could find to interview who were inspired by Sally Ride to do anything; just a few feminist pundits. She was a role-model (for NASA’s first affirmative action program). She gave girls ESTEEM (if only vicariously).

And now we don’t even have a space program. The Chinese are sending women into space. They wouldn’t even know who Sally Ride is.

That’s right sweetheart, your special because you have a vegina, you have stuff to get pregnant and you have boobs…which is exactly where that POWER you think you have comes from.

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Keyster July 25, 2012 at 21:37

I wonder if your friend’s girlfriend has her next mark lined up in case your friend declines the ultimatum and decides to walk.

There is that handsome doctor over in pediatrics. He always smiles at her in the breakroom. She’s pretty sure he’s single. He’s got the bluest eyes! That silver Porsche in the parking garage is his.

Bitter, jaded, hopelessly cynical?
Nope…just realistic.
We’ll take you down the rabbit hole as far as you want to go.
There are some dark places.

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freebird July 25, 2012 at 21:47

Bill Bennett sez
“After his death we learned that Blunk had an ex-wife and two children living in Nevada. He was scheduled to visit them to resolve marital issues. This isn’t to take anything away from Blunk or the other two heroes, but to illustrate that, in spite of shortcomings, men can still recognize what it means to be a good man and act like one.”

That is,not to say the hero was part shit-bag for having been divorced with two kids held hostage by an out-of-sate mother..

He was still “good” enough to die.
Time to ring up the GMP and tell them, we have finally found the definition of a “good man.”

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gilgamesh July 25, 2012 at 21:56

We create jobs. We make medical advances that save women’s lives. We fight tooth and nail to defend our countries. We invent, build, or maintain almost everything around you. We are role models for our children. We complete one task properly instead of half-assing several tasks.

Equal contribution my ass.

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evilwhitemalempire July 25, 2012 at 22:19

Just one question: what do they do to improve little boys’s self-esteem?
————————
http://yourkidsartsucks.com/hores

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Hf July 25, 2012 at 22:34

“If I met the perfect woman tomorrow, I mean absolutely perfect in every way. A woman who was the living embodiment of everything I could ever desire or fantasize about and she told me she would give me anything I wanted…”

That perfect round of golf?

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piercedhead July 25, 2012 at 23:17

“If I met the perfect woman tomorrow, I mean absolutely perfect in every way. A woman who was the living embodiment of everything I could ever desire or fantasize about and she told me she would give me anything I wanted…”

I meet these women all the time.

All I want is to be left alone, to cook good food, and to drink good beer. Every women I avoid allows me this.

It’s only the women you have anything to do with that disappoint. The rest are great.

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greyghost July 25, 2012 at 23:36

zed
The best response for the shit test of the engineer buddy would be to tell her some along the lines of ” Don’t quit your job for my kids I planned on getting a sarrogate and having my own children. You are a good person and all and I love you but I have no intentions of having a child with you or any woman in this legal environment for men.”

That pink pill shit is just hanging around a mens sight and then coming up with a line that sounds like something MRA’s want to hear. If you wanna impress me show some linked news stories of the family court judge that you falsely accused of rape the lost everything over the last year and a half fighting the charges. With the last link to a story about how he went to a party with all family court judges a did a mass murder attempted suicide. Laws of misandry
Troll king
Bill Bennet is just an ass. Going to say a mans worth as a human is based on his willingness or actually his being killed to spare a woman. Does he have a way to see comments about his dumb ass.

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walking in hell2 July 26, 2012 at 02:08

@Troll King
@Charles Martel
@zed

“Just last night our engineering friend was asked to come by his girlfriend’s house for a “chat”. The chat was that she was unwilling to raise her children in a daycare and if the relationship was going to proceed, he needed to know that. She is a health care professional and she will go back to work when the (hypothetical) youngest child is in school, but she wanted that clear up front.”

I smell fire and brimstone. The girlfriend is setting the poor engineer up for a hellish existence.

If the engineer is degraded to the role of “provider” while she is a stay at home mom (the “Leave it to Beaver model”), his kids won’t know him. In addition, if she becomes unhappy because he is “never around” she can divorce him and easily gain full custody and the maximum amount of alimony and child support, because she has been the main caretaker.

The Leave it to beaver model is the most dangerous situation for a man because it is within this model the man stands to lose everything: children, money, career, and any hope for a sound financial future.

In the event that a man is stupid enough to have children and marry in America, the least worst choice is stay at home dad or at least 50% stay at home dad. Even then, the courts and women are so rotten, they will often still give custody to the mother.

Provider = Future deadbeat dad.

In America, there is no safe way for a man to have children or marry; best to avoid it. Today’s wonderful female companion is tomorrow’s sadistic slave driver: her cages, chains, and whips are the family courts, the divorce industry, and the prison industrial complex.

This story reminds me of Biblical Proverbs here:
“With her much fair speech she caused him to yield, with the flattering of her lips she forced him.
He goeth after her straightway, as an ox goeth to the slaughter, or as a fool to the correction of the stocks”

The most vulnerable men are the working engineer, provider-beta types, who are often religions with traditional morals and values. These are the clueless sheep, so easily guilted into “manning up” and sent to the slaughterhouse by the likes of Mark Driscol, Dr. Dobson, and other false prophet “gatekeepers of hell” SOCONs.

Even the poor beta’s own mother and father will tell him to “man up” and push him into the slaughterhouse.

This story is a textbook case of the fork in the road that all betas will eventually arrive at. The girlfriend’s little chat is nothing more than “beta bait.”

The engineer can go down “beta lane” and “be a man” and degrade himself to the role of current provider and future deadbeat, depressed, and suicidal dad, or he can walk away, shaking and sweating, with pants full of shit and piss, and thanking God that he just escaped an eternal hell.

This story is a gem. All young men should study this story with the utmost diligence. This story is a once-in-a-lifetime textbook example of how real American men get trapped and slaughtered.

By reading this little story, men have the chance to observe the miraculous birth of a slave from the vantage point of the womb.

Young men, you should thank Andie for bringing this story to light.

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Migu July 26, 2012 at 02:46

She is a health care professional and she will go back to work when the (hypothetical) youngest child is in school, but she wanted that clear up front.

A great deal for her.

She gets to throw off the man and the child after what, four years these days?

Not only that, she still gets his “support” along with that of her next sucker and her new “poor girl was forced to sacrifice her career for four years lets give her salary parity with her manager.”

She knows all of this, just as you do. What a lever to have, I wonder how it could be counterbalanced?

I know, the Children of a marriage belong to the father.

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walking in hell2 July 26, 2012 at 03:09

@Troll King
@Charles Martel
@zed
@keyster

“But trust me. A younger generation of women has been watching from the sidelines and they are not stupid. Just last night our engineering friend was asked to come by his girlfriend’s house for a “chat”. The chat was that she was unwilling to raise her children in a daycare and if the relationship was going to proceed, he needed to know that. She is a health care professional and she will go back to work when the (hypothetical) youngest child is in school, but she wanted that clear up front.”

This story really struck a chord. It has all the elements of deception, most of all the opening two words “trust me.”

I think we are entering an age of not eugenics, but dysgenics. Because if the “younger generation” of women are thinking and behaving like the engineer’s girlfriend, then only stupid men will breed with them.

Leftist feminism is bad. But SOCON and TRADCON have to be the most harmful and deceptive doctrines out there. Because they exploit the man’s guilt and instinct to protect, by selectively using biblical references and the most subtle religious rhetoric. The rhetoric makes references to chivalrous situations or maidens of the past, that no longer exist, or perhaps, never existed at all.

What does exist in the present are women with beer and sperm dripping from their nostrils, entering churches with guilted and stooped-over postures, who become mentally re-virginated by religious leaders (Driscoll, Dobson) who are either blindly misguided, or the most deceptive gate keepers of hell in our time.

In this little story, if you read between the lines you will see all the elements of the worst of SOCON-TRADCON feminism: “You go princess,” “Mother knows best,” “Traditional man,” blah, blah, blah, barf.

Personally I see a relationship between the old leftist feminism and the new SOCON-TRADCON movement. Today’s SOCON-TRADCON stay-at-home re-virginated, born-again mom, is often yesterday’s beer-and-sperm-in-the-nostrils alpha-effing slut.

Truly, the American man is caught between the old left pincer of leftist feminism, and the nasty, new and emerging SOCON-TRADCON right pincer. His best bet is to quickly get out of this monster-infested ocean of evil crabs.

Any young man who is not reading The Spearhead is really missing out on some of the best wisdom and advice for young men on the internet.

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Andie July 26, 2012 at 04:20

@ Troll King et. al.

I can see how wanting to be a stay at home at mom comes across as a a shit test, and I know that plenty of men get screwed when they agree.

But I also remember, back in the early days, when our relationship was just getting serious, I told Tim that I would not raise our children in a daycare center and he was actually pretty thrilled. He was raised at home by his mother and he wanted the same for his children.

And it was not a one way street. His requirement was that whatever wedding I wanted I would have to pay for myself. I would have to work, save my money and pay for everything in cash. He would provide the ring, but everything else was up to me and it was not negotiable. We would not start our life with a crushing load of debt to pay for one day.

I didn’t see that as a shit test. I saw it as someone who cared about the same things as me.

I wanted the ceremony, the public declaration, our family and friends as a witness. We got married in a park and had pizza and beer to celebrate. Our wedding cost $2000, which we paid for with cash.

The girl our engineer friend is seeing is very similar. She’s not interested in a Big Princess Day. She is interested in building a family. She wants to be the one to take care of that family. I think she’s being honest.

But I see your points.

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ActaNonVerba July 26, 2012 at 05:05

“We’ll be stopping by the little towns of Self-Absorbed followed by Complete Self Overestimation next on the Indoctrination Express. We know you children have your choice of idea trains and we ….oh yeah…scratch that. We know you have no choice of what idea train to travel on but we still thank you for not choosing the Indoctrination Railway.

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Darryl X July 26, 2012 at 05:07

@ Andie -

I disagree that younger women have seen what happened the past forty-four years and are changing their attitudes. I don’t doubt that their circumstances may have changed over the past forty-four years. But they have not.

It certainly is not my experience with women of my generation or the Millenials. Without exception, all Millenial women with whom I am familiar are totally screwed up. Some worse than others because the circumstances beyond their control varies from woman to woman but all are entirely disconnected from reality.

And that is to write that even though the circumstances beyond their control may vary, the ones within their control do not. Despite the circumstances beyond their control, they still have an inflated sense of entitlement and an incomprehensibly vast legal, political, social and financial machine to help them realize it. they have an underdeveloped sense of remorse, shame, guilt, empathy, and conscience. They lack analytical skills, sense, reason and logic. They have a propensity for compulsive pathological lying, deception, manipulation, parasitism and opportunism. And they are delusional. All of them.

The only difference between adult women forty-four years ago and today is the circumstances beyond their control. The economy has declined and fewer men are marrying and/or having children and there are fewer and fewer opportunities with which women may exploit men. But the institutions with which they may do it still exist. And those institutions are stealing from men at an accelerated rate to appease women because the men have gotten too smart to fall into the trap themselves. So now the governments are hunting the men on behalf of the women. But men are running out of resources which may be stolen too. Which is why men are withdrawing from women (and society) in droves. Women have priced themselves out of the market. Which means there will be no civilization.

Ralph Catalano is a Professor of Public Health at UC Berkeley and he wrote in an article for the Wall Street Journal that, “We’re at risk of having a generation of young males who aren’t well-connected to the labor market and who don’t feel strong ownership of community or society because they haven’t benefited from it.” But really we’re not at “risk” because we’ve been there for the past couple generations. The only thing that has changed is decline in the availability of debt. If women’s attitudes were genuinely changing, then Catalano would not be able to publish such an unpopular claim in a major publication like the Wall Street Journal.

To put it a different way, in the past (before forty-four years ago) women had value beyond their sexuality. They actually contributed something. During the past forty-four years, women had no value but their sexuality. And many men were willing to and could afford to pay for that. Today, women have no value. None whatsoever. Worse, they are complete liabilities in any context. And as food becomes less abundant (a concept women seem not to understand despite the facts since none go beyond the local grocery store shelf to get food), men are going to make an important resource decision.

Food always trumps sex. And as women provide less and less for men in terms of families (more than forty-four years ago) and sexuality (during the last forty-four years), then men are going to start looking at women less as opportunities for family and/or sex and start evaluating them as a food source. Especially as alternate food resources become stretched and women are such a liability. Might just as well kill two birds with one stone. Get rid of the liability and have a good meal at the same time. That’s how bad women have gotten. And how little about women has changed. They certainly have absolutely no value as labor in any context. Feminists wanted to condemn us to primitive social organizing, well that’s what happens with primitive social organizing. Women are at much greater risk of violence and other crimes. Feminists and the govt are so stupid they think just the opposite. Well, maybe they don’t really think. They “feel”. But as Ayn Rand put it, “You can ignore reality but not the consequences of reality.”

Nothing about the problems of women and feminism will change until the vote has been taken away from them, they are denied property ownership and they are no longer allowed to work outside the home. It is hard to impress upon anyone, especially a woman, how absolutely destructive and worthless women have become. Certainly things have not gotten better but far far worse. And I don’t have to go any further than any random Millenial female on the street as evidence.

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Darryl X July 26, 2012 at 05:13

“If I met the perfect woman tomorrow, I mean absolutely perfect in every way. A woman who was the living embodiment of everything I could ever desire or fantasize about and she told me she would give me anything I wanted…”

I want my children back.

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Rocco July 26, 2012 at 05:36

My understanding is that feminists are teaching young women that life doesn’t start until after their first divorce.

Feminists are always ahead of the MRM, which is mostly a reactionary movement.

While we debate MGTOW or PUA, women are teaching little girls in forums in which men do not participate, like Ms. Mag?, People?, but the message is clear. She is entitled to power and…

Divorce is essential to her happiness and as much an essential rite of passage as marrige which should now be renamed wedding.

Just ask Katie Holmes.

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Zorro July 26, 2012 at 05:54

@greyghost:

Couldn’t agree more re Bennett. Reading his latest dry heave on CNN was sickening. The man is a monument to male disposability. He would have taken pleasure in shaking the hands of all the men about to die on the Titanic…so long as he was not among them. Both he and Hanna Rosin have to be two of the most morally repulsive “journalists” around today.

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zed July 26, 2012 at 06:06

freebird:

Bill Bennett sez
“After his death we learned that Blunk had an ex-wife and two children living in Nevada. He was scheduled to visit them to resolve marital issues. This isn’t to take anything away from Blunk or the other two heroes, but to illustrate that, in spite of shortcomings, men can still recognize what it means to be a good man and act like one.”

That is,not to say the hero was part shit-bag for having been divorced with two kids held hostage by an out-of-sate mother..

He was still “good” enough to die.
Time to ring up the GMP and tell them, we have finally found the definition of a “good man.”

Now, let’s think about this for a moment…

Eight men died, but only the 3 (or, in some accounts, 4) of them that died while saving a woman are considered “good.” So, we are left with the definition of “a good man” as being “a dead man, who died while saving the life of a woman.”

[sigh] Well, it may seem like a terrible burden to some, but I guess I am just going to have to live with d-bags like Bennett considering me a double-plus un-good man. ;)

“White Knight” seems to be becoming a very hazardous occupation.

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zed July 26, 2012 at 06:16

It could be real, IMO. The writing at the top is probably done by the teacher, possibly with OCD, the bottom a child.

It looks like my sons hw when he was 8 and believe me, I reviewed every one.

Yeah, it could be real, Rocco. I don’t think it is, but it could be.

I’ve never seen an assignment where the teacher hand-wrote an assignment on a legal pad and gave it to a student to fill out. In my day, they would have either written it on the chalkboard, or handed out a form from the mimeograph. Today it would come from a laser printer, but with a room full of undisciplined kids, teachers today would be even less to individually hand write the beginnings of an assignment.

At the most, I would say her feminist mother wrote the top part, and her mangina father pissed his pants in pride over the girl’s moxie.

I do think it is a fairly accurate reflection of what young girls are taught these days, and there is no doubt in my mind that most girls believe this.

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zed July 26, 2012 at 06:39

All I want is to be left alone, to cook good food, and to drink good beer. Every women I avoid allows me this.

It’s only the women you have anything to do with that disappoint. The rest are great.

When all the BS about women have a “second shift” and harassing men to do more housework (when the time they spend doing outside housework was considered a “hobby”) started, I pointed out to people that in the name of “equality”, I paid 100% of the bills, did 100% of the work to maintain my house, and basically 100% of everything. I expected women to do the same to maintain their homestead.

100% divided by 2 households works out to exactly 50.00000% – to however many decimal places you want to carry it.

You just can’t get any more “equal” than that.

I have a perfectly equal relationship with every single woman in the world.

Feminist utopia realized.

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Dalrock July 26, 2012 at 07:45

@Audie

That gives me hope. This girl is smart, educated, has her shit together, earns a great living, has bought a house, works a side job to pay for luxuries, saves her money and she wants to be a wife and mother. A real one. One that is present and accounted for.

Really? She wants to give her youth and virginity to her husband, whom she will commit and submit to, for life?

Because I read “earns a great living” as “career woman”, and “has bought a house” suggests to me that she has been such for quite a few years. I read “works a side job to pay for luxuries” as “has developed expensive tastes”.

If you weren’t telling me different, I’d suspect that she was just another career woman with a rapidly closing fertility window, who got tired of the serial monogamous carousel and working to support herself. I of course know better, but if I didn’t I’d be thinking now that she has proved herself as a strong and independent woman and achieved her own personal objectives, it is time for someone to man up and pretend that she was a traditional wife so she can have it all.

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Towgunner July 26, 2012 at 08:13

@ Troll King:

“Feminists promised that if we only liberated and educated the other half of the population then they would outshine men and create even more. They claimed that women were capable but held back by men…..”

My compliments, that’s a huge vista analyzing today’s “art” and what it says about us.

Per you comment above, just want to point something out as a consistent meme for the MRA. Bottom-line: at any given time in history women had the opportunity to “outshine” men. They didn’t and they weren’t even close. This “oppression/held back” argument only goes so far. Simply, today, women are portraying themselves so unbelievably superior to men it’s beyond ridiculous. Consider the typical female character on any tv show or movie, her full ensemble of accolades and “accomplishments” is many times mathematically impossible since to do this would mean this person never sleeps, which means you would have died long ago. Such is fantasy. The point being, if women are so overwhelmingly superior to men…why did they wait this long? Hmmm? Why didn’t they outshine men eons ago? Why did they seemingly choose to endure all those awful things they said we did? And why is the male-dominant society the model throughout the world and time, save for the last 10-15 years? Oh the oppression…come on! women forget that men have been more oppressed than them for eons but it was men that have bucked their oppression not women (and now men are doing it to women’s oppression of them a la the MRA). So, superior woman, where is your track record of revolution? Outside of this engineered anomaly of the last 50 years, there is none. As such, women are not superior to men. women are, more accurately, different than men and have different abilities, strengths and weaknesses. That in conjunction with men’s strengths and weaknesses forms a symbiotic relationship that at peak optimization enables both sexes’ strengths to be utilized efficiently. Concave knees, large hips, higher body fat percentages, menstruation, smaller frames, less muscle mass, no testosterone, volatile bodily chemicals, maternal instincts etc…DO NOT make for a better man. All that takes to confirm this is the usage of one of the most neglected human organs in today’s pc world the eyes. I digress, the main point here is that women could have “outshined” men at any time, this so called oppression is irrelevant especially since women now claim to be vastly superior to men in everything. Since they didn’t and only have gained an edge really over the last 10-15 years (a blip in the time humans have been around) we have to reject this notion of superiority. Firstly, blips are earmarks of outlier events that quickly and rapidly revert back to the mean…so as we enter the new normal of limited resources look for this meme of girl power to disappear as rapidly as it appeared…the driving force being necessity. Lastly not to sound redundant, but as Troll King stated, had it not been for affirmative action i.e. the state’s sponsorship and favoritism of women, they would not be enjoying this so called success. If women were able to do all these things without the help of the government then us men would be in big big trouble, indeed, they would be right in proving their supposed superiority. However, good news for men, the more women “ascend” the more tyrannical our government becomes and the weaker america and The West becomes…as it stands today we are on the verge of a massive reset. Thus this proves that women were arbitrarily promoted, not due to their innate superiority to men, but do to their ability to petition a fraudulent government to ensure their success. In the old America, where the balance of the sexes was in equilibrium, you weren’t given any legs up, generally speaking. It was you against the world, but, you could do anything you set out to do…you just didn’t have any help. Like it or not that is the best and closet thing to “fair” we can achieve in this plane of reality. As someone who has been given absolutely nothing in my life I welcome the return to this fairer dynamic. Consistent with Bern at Chafin’s Inferno, Men do a lot better than women under those conditions.

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DruidV July 26, 2012 at 08:20

Even if this is a hoax, does it really change anything? Is this not EXACTLY what females are being taught about themselves in school?
Is this not exactly how they feel?

Hoax or not, this is a very accurate depiction of the mindset of WF of every age today.

Sick.

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zed July 26, 2012 at 08:27

If you weren’t telling me different, I’d suspect that she was just another career woman with a rapidly closing fertility window, who got tired of the serial monogamous carousel and working to support herself. I of course know better, but if I didn’t I’d be thinking now that she has proved herself as a strong and independent woman and achieved her own personal objectives, it is time for someone to man up and pretend that she was a traditional wife so she can have it all.

And, Dalrock swoops in for the kill!! :)

Someone needs to come up with a good recipe for road-killed hamster. We’ll have to wait a bit to see if this one turns out to be a hamster-zilla, like many of the female commenters over at your place.

You’ve got registration turned on, so I didn’t leave a comment on your site about the hamster-batics of DH and OT, but it must give you a chuckle to know that your site is the object of such intense hamster-bation fantasies among some women. ;)

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Dalrock July 26, 2012 at 08:41

Thanks Zed.

By the way good to see you back. As for the issues you had with commenting on my site, I’m not sure what is happening there. There is no registration, or at least there shouldn’t be. I still have plenty of comments coming through and several new commenters showing up every day. My spam filter has been going nuts lately though. I just cleared out 111 spam comments all from the last few hours (I cleared it in the morning already). Every now and then an approved commenter’s comment ends up in the spam bin. I think I catch most of these and retrieve them but I’m sure I miss at least a few. As I recall you have my email address, so email me if it still keeps you out.

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zed July 26, 2012 at 08:52

She is interested in building a family. She wants to be the one to take care of that family. I think she’s being honest.

But I see your points.

I’m impressed by that last statement. At least I don’t have to dust off my fembot bingo card.

The big problem is, Andie, that “a woman always reserves the right to change her mind.”

One of the things I have noticed over the years is that a lot of women live in a sort of “perpetual now” when it comes to consciousness. That “now” is never connected to either the past or the future. It is the same observation on which TFH bases his statement that women do not understand cause and effect very well.

I am sure that this woman is being honest, and potentially sincere, but there are no social structures left in place which prevent her from “changing her mind” and rewriting history so that she is the victim in this scenario.

Cue the White Knights to chase down your friend the engineer, strip him of his children and all his assets, and your friend’s GF suddenly becomes a “feminist hero” like Katie Holmes.

Your feminist mothers ate all the seed corn, and salted the fields. They mortgaged your future by drawing down their “Social Equity Line of Credit.”

It sucks for women like you, but I am not a good man and am no longer willing to sacrifice my life and happiness to fulfill some woman’s desire to “have it all.”

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walking in hell2 July 26, 2012 at 09:09

@Daryl X

“Get rid of the liability and have a good meal at the same time. ”

What a great idea. As we slip back into the stone age, eat the cows; use the blubber leftovers to make lamp oil; use the thick bones to make tools.

American women are so huge these days, just one of them could feed a ton of guys.

Maybe this will be the mantra of the future: “it takes a village to eat a woman.”

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freebird July 26, 2012 at 09:21

“So, we are left with the definition of “a good man” as being “a dead man, who died while saving the life of a woman.”

Precisely.Inform the press at GMP (Ms Magazine)

Count me in the double un-good club also bro.

Have a joy-joy day!

BTW: Willie Ben-wah ain’t worth the snot off the end of my dick.

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walking in hell2 July 26, 2012 at 09:32

@Darryl X
“I disagree that younger women have seen what happened the past forty-four years and are changing their attitudes. I don’t doubt that their circumstances may have changed over the past forty-four years. But they have not.”

I agree with you Darryl. I think they are getting worse. I think you can compare the current generation of women with termites. They won’t stop consuming until the house has fallen down.

Or like a swarm of locust, they will devour everything in their path until there is nothing left to eat.

In fact I would guess that for many women, as the window of fertility is closing, their bodies will be saying to them, “you have had so many cocks. Where’s the baby?” And as desperation sets in, they will hunt harder and more desperately for a sperm and money donor.

As you said, they already have the government hunting for them. Maybe in the future we will see legalized paternity fraud–where the government randomly assigns child support duties to childless men, as is done in Israel.

When you have insect-like creatures that are utterly blind and without empathy or compassion, and they are seeking to relieve biological and artificial desires that have been programmed into them, hell is the lower limit as far as how bad things could get.

For now, men and what men can provide are their food. They have been taught this since birth. Get in their path and get eaten alive.

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Andie July 26, 2012 at 09:35

@ Dalrock

She is a nurse. She graduated from high school at 17, finished nursing school at 21 and has been working and using her money not for cellphones and gel manicures, but to pay off a very cute little house. She’s 25.

I make a distinction between career women and women with careers. Career women care only about their careers. Husband, family, dog, friends – they all come second to her own desires. They care for themselves first and foremost.

Women with careers are able to contribute to their family’s well-being, but it never comes at the expense of the family. My littlest one is only three so I am not yet ready to return to work, but I am qualified to work in a highly specialized form of banking. I won’t be doing that because it will take too much of my time and will NOT allow me to care for my family the way I believe I am morally obliged to do, and that quite frankly, gives me great happiness to do.

Instead, I will teach my skills at the college level. I’ll start with just one course and we will see how it goes. I will contribute, but not at the expense of my family. If my course conflicts with something in my husband’s schedule (which we know well in advance), I won’t take that course.

I have a “career”, but I am not a career woman. My skills are a kind of insurance plan. If something happened to my husband or he lost his job, I would be able to fill in the gaps a bit until he found another position.

Two of my best friends are nurses and they both work casually, picking up shifts depending on the rest of the family’s needs. It’s a great job for women who want flexibility. We live up around Lake Superior, and while I certainly see the kinds of women and situations you are talking about, I think maybe we are a little more untouched up here. Some would call us backwoods. Whatever.

Of the six families on my street that have children under 10, five of them have a stay at home parent. Two dads are at home with school age children because they can work from home as consultants. It’s pretty normal in my neighborhood.

Having a career is not a problem, when your kids are older. It’s valuing your career over your husband and children that is the problem. And that is what little girls are being taught: that meaning in life comes from how much money you earn and the shit you can buy with it. Scented candles, anyone?

And it’s such a lie. True happiness comes from having loving relationships with other people. You have to guard and protect and nurture those relationships. You can’t just pencil them in when your schedule permits.

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zed July 26, 2012 at 09:41

@ Dalrock,

One of my earliest posts here was how MRAs (or whatever we decide to start calling ourselves, next) needed to “Up Their Rhetoric of Ridicule.” Ridicule of feminists and carousel rides is becoming an art form on your site, and related ones, with terms like “divornography” and “hamsterbation.”

I’m really glad to see the Christian contingent starting to frag fools like Stanton, Mohler, etc. Of course, you guys have more to lose because only those men who hold on to some sort of socon/tradcon values are able to fed to the lions. Pagans like me just spit in their faces when they tell us to “man up.”

It’s nice to see that All is (not) Quiet on the Christian Front. Keep going after them, Dalrock.

Re: the commenting issue. I’m not sure what is going on, but it happens with just about everyone on your blogroll. When I hit submit, I get asked for a password. I don’t know whether it has something to do with WordPress, or Google, or what. It doesn’t matter because I’m not planning to wade into heavy commenting on the Christian oriented sites. I need a little more elbow room to flex my nasty way of spinning a phrase than your regulars would be comfortable with.

I just wanted to toss in a throwaway comment about you being the object of DH’s “hamsterbation” fantasies, and see if I could get a few feathers flying.

Keep up the good work.

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zed July 26, 2012 at 09:43

Maybe this will be the mantra of the future: “it takes a village to eat a woman.”

“I’ll have two orders of FUPA, to go.” ;)

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walking in hell2 July 26, 2012 at 09:50

@andie

At this point the engineer is playing casino odds 50-50 that he will lose everything with just a random throw of the dice.

At the micro level, this woman has an itchy trigger finger. I can tell this just by the fact that she is “laying down the law” for a hypothetical child, “her” hypothetical child, by the way.

She has all her dominoes lined up. My bet is that she has an expert knowledge of family law; maybe even a friend in the business.

If I were the engineer, I would get out of there and hope I did not get a false rape charge leveled against me for “wasting” the best years of her life.

I hope she does not know the engineer’s social security number.

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greyghost July 26, 2012 at 10:38

Walking in hell2
Ole manboobz just creamed his pink panties on that one. “the MRA’s (mens rape apolagist) are talking about eating women and using their body fat as lamp fuel.” They have comepletely lost it” ha ha ha
BTW women are a liability infact women are not even worth being a father over. Guy does multiple tours in combat and his reward is to be able to go home to be with his family. Next we here the guy commits suicide or is single and in arrears on his way to being a homeless vet. And it will be every thing but misandry at fault.
zed
There is nothing from law, church to social custom to prevent a woman from fucking the man and child for her happiness. infact that has become the definition of a woman. I truely know Andie is completely clueless about it. There is no solid ground for a man to stand on. Only delusion and lies. And to build anything on the word or faith of a woman is madness. “my wife said she loves me and would never treat me they way tyour ex wives treated you. It is just a matter of finding the right person” That is complete suicidal delusion in todays ,yesterday and tomorrows world . It was always bullshit.

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Rebel July 26, 2012 at 11:17

“I don’t care and I won’t pedestalize women and if they have a problem with it then it is WOMEN who needs to fix the social contract because they are the ones who broke it.”

This is so tue…
In fact, nothing will change until women demand changes. They are the ones who created this mess. They will maintain the mess for as long as they want and if they ever grow tired of it,they will change again.

Men can only stand by and watch.

We don’t even have to be concerned with anything at all if we chose to be free.

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Dalrock July 26, 2012 at 11:22

@Zed

It doesn’t matter because I’m not planning to wade into heavy commenting on the Christian oriented sites. I need a little more elbow room to flex my nasty way of spinning a phrase than your regulars would be comfortable with.

Your call. Not all posts are Biblical and you are certainly welcome whenever you like. Opus and some others would probably appreciate the company too. I’m not sure how long it will last, but even GBFM has dialed it back a bit and comments fairly regularly.

I just wanted to toss in a throwaway comment about you being the object of DH’s “hamsterbation” fantasies, and see if I could get a few feathers flying.

That was something to behold.

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Dalrock July 26, 2012 at 11:29

@Andie

She is a nurse. She graduated from high school at 17, finished nursing school at 21 and has been working and using her money not for cellphones and gel manicures, but to pay off a very cute little house. She’s 25.

I make a distinction between career women and women with careers. Career women care only about their careers. Husband, family, dog, friends – they all come second to her own desires. They care for themselves first and foremost.

Women with careers are able to contribute to their family’s well-being, but it never comes at the expense of the family.

This is certainly better than roughly half of the women in her cohort are doing, but it is still a far cry from traditional. I’m not against women working, but notice that education and profession came first and now she is looking for a husband. If you want to know what her real priority is look at the priority she followed. There is a reason feminists pushed for it to be this way, so that women would have the girlpower needed to challenge their husband’s leadership with regularity. But he still gets to carry the burden of breadwinner so she can stay at home, and as others have mentioned all of the legal risks are on him. You also didn’t mention her being a virgin, and I’m guessing the man in question isn’t the first boyfriend. While she is better than many she isn’t really bucking the trend.

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zed July 26, 2012 at 11:52
I just wanted to toss in a throwaway comment about you being the object of DH’s “hamsterbation” fantasies, and see if I could get a few feathers flying.

That was something to behold.

Truly a hamster-lympic level of performance – 9.9, 9.9, 9.9, and one 10.0.

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Darryl X July 26, 2012 at 12:09

Great site, Dalrock. Keep it up. So to speak.

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Darryl X July 26, 2012 at 12:29

@ Andie -

And I hope I did not sound too insensitive about your circumstances. I think it is great that you have a relationship with your father. I hope many other children who have been alienated from their fathers pursue a relationship too. It is very very late but it is never too late.

I do not know what it would have been like to be alienated from my father. And I can only imagine what it is like for my son to be alienated from me and raised by an adulterer and con-artist and thief. Even an imperfect father is still a father and a very important and indispensable resource in his children’s life.

Although I am imperfect, I was hardly delinquent in any way. I will never forget the look on my son’s face the last time I saw him. It is something from which I will never recover. Women are cold-blooded as evidenced by the institutions from which they seek guidance.

That being written, there is no solution to our dilemma except elimination of the institutions which have caused the mess which is our current circumstances – family law and child support enforcement and other related subsidiaries of the Divorce Industry. That can happen in a variety of different ways.

No woman can expect to have achieved either self-, spiritual- or universal-actualization unless these institutions have been elimated once and for all.

The couple you wrote about has all the red-flags of a disaster waiting to happen and the man should be strongly cautioned. I wish I had benefited from the advice like that on this site before I married twelve years ago. Perhaps you should direct your engineer friend here for a little heart-to-heart.

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Charles Martel July 26, 2012 at 12:45

Darryl X
The couple you wrote about has all the red-flags of a disaster waiting to happen and the man should be strongly cautioned.

I thought the same thing. Engineer and beta provider are practically synonymous. With few exceptions an engineer will make no more than $80,000 to $90,000 for their entire careers. When nursey goes back to work in her very late 20s/early 30s she’ll be mixing with high status men making $300,000 to $400,000 a year. She’ll be acutely aware of her fading SMV and will have spent 5 years married to Mr. Boring Reliable Dude. What could possibly go wrong?

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Towgunner July 26, 2012 at 12:56

Pedestalize women? Or give them even a modicum of respect or acknowledge their dignity as being human?? Why should I, they think I’m inferior.

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zed July 26, 2012 at 13:17

She is a nurse. She graduated from high school at 17, finished nursing school at 21 and has been working and using her money not for cellphones and gel manicures, but to pay off a very cute little house. She’s 25.

Paying off a house, of any size, by age 25 is quite an accomplishment – if that is what you meant here. At that rate, with a paid-off house, she could work until she was about 34, and probably have enough money saved to live on until her kids went to school. I know of nurses who live quite well on PRN work.

So, see, she really doesn’t need a Beta provider, she probably just wants one.

Remember, a woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle. Didn’t you and she get the memo?

Are you starting to get the message about how thoroughly the well has been poisoned?

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Andie July 26, 2012 at 14:26

@Rebel

This is so tue…
In fact, nothing will change until women demand changes.

That is what I am trying to do, and trying to teach my daughters to do. I’m not really in a position to DEMAND anything. But I can lead my life as an example for others to follow, teach my children to question assumptions, speak out against blatant man-hating and listen to those who have more and different experiences, which is what I do here at Spearhead.

@Zed

Are you starting to get the message about how thoroughly the well has been poisoned?

Oh, I got it, dude. And I am mad as hell about it. I have to drink this water. My children have to drink this water. What I want to do is figure out an antidote, and figure out what I can do about it.

@Charles Martel

Everything you say is true and could hypothetically happen. I am sure it does happen. A lot.

It interests me how many backyard/cottage family weddings we have been to, and how many Big Princess Look At Meeeeeeee weddings. Without exception, the backyard wedding group is more solidly and happily married.

Maybe the desire for a Big Wedding is a red flag? I have a hard time believing that the desire to nurture and feed and comfort and love and care for your own baby is a red flag. Is the well THAT poisoned? How sad. I would think the opposite would be true. Here’s our baby. Try not to let him to broil to death in the car because you forgot it was your turn to drop him off at daycare. Ta ta! I’ll be off doing my nails before that big meeting about how to market our newest scented candles. /sarcasm/

I can see the pitfalls. I really can. I see how dangerous it can be for men to have dependent wives. But I also think the best wives and mothers ARE dependent. When they combine their dependency on men with love, admiration and gratitude, it makes for a very happy life.

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zed July 26, 2012 at 14:56

Is the well THAT poisoned?

Yeah, unfortunately, Andie, it is. The toxic waste has been being dumped into it for a lot of years.

Are you starting to get the message about how thoroughly the well has been poisoned?

Oh, I got it, dude. And I am mad as hell about it. I have to drink this water. My children have to drink this water. What I want to do is figure out an antidote, and figure out what I can do about it.

Well, two feminists hanging from every light pole tomorrow morning would be a good start. ;)

The biggest problem with the gender war is that it has raged for more than 40 years now, with no signs of abatement. Women could have declared a truce at any time, and called off the man-bashing, but instead they escalated it.

The biggest difficulty is that any and all women give the appearance of always playing for “Team Woman.” For the past 4 decades, any man who tried to start negotiations and put forth the male side of things was besieged by women attacking him personally. The personal attacks were so predictable that someone cataloged them in the “Catalog of Anti-male Shaming Tactics.” http://exposingfeminism.wordpress.com/shaming-tactics/

Then, we went through the “NAWALT” (Not All Women Are Like That) phase, where every issue raised by men would get sidetracked by argument over whether every last woman in the world was “like that”, and if it could not be proven that they were, well then we couldn’t talk about it.

Now, imagine some horrible creature like Hanna Rosin starts trumpeting about “The End of Men”, and instead of attacking men objecting to her, women would go after her like an enraged swarm of killer bees screaming “SHUT UP YOU BITCH.”

Women could turn all this around in short order if they would use their skills in relational aggression against feminists and those women who stupidly bash men.

Rest assured that naive beta-boy will likely end up marrying your friend. Raw recruits and recent inductees do not have the hair-trigger reflexes which send them to Def-Con 4 whenever they hear a twig snap.

But, take this next statement to the bank –
as long as women sit on their passive asses, and whine about men, and do nothing to change the situation, and let the man-bashers speak for all women, then men will assume that what the man-bashers express is indicative of how all women think and what they want.

Silence is assent.

Think about the situation of having a well in your back yard. If your nasty neighbor women were coming into your yard and dumping poison in your well, poisoning you and your children, would you not take action to stop them?

The fact that women haven’t, is considered more significant than anything they say.

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Darryl X July 26, 2012 at 15:46

@ Andie -

“Is the well THAT poisoned?”

How can you even ask this question? I’m too tired to review for you data and their objective analyses from the past forty-four years concerning divorce and adultery and paternity fraud and false rape allegations and abuse of excessive child support and paternal alienation and domestic violence and child abuse and women’s shelters and lies about income and much much more. But I could.

Suffice it to say that the problems men face today because of the criminal behavior of women goes way beyond any emotional impact but serious life-threatening developments for millions of men in the US and tens of millions throughout the developed world. And tens of millions outside the developed world too. And then there’s the children. Most of them have suffered if not directly by forcible separation from their fathers then from the fractured communities of which those children are but a symptom.

That women and their hubris and excess and greed and irrational behavior has completely brought down all of civilization is not hyperbole. It is undeniable fact and even women will have to deal with the consequences of drinking water from the well they poisoned. It’s unavoidable at this time. Men can’t save you or your children. It’s too late. Yes, the well is that poisoned.

I do not think that you as a woman with such short vision is capable of understanding the destruction that feminism has caused. My goal is to survive right now. That is it. There is no goal beyond that. I am unable to help anyone else. And no woman can help herself let alone anyone else. The resources the government steals from men and exchanges with women for political power and control has run out. The well is dry. Not just poisoned.

Expect disintegration of society to accelerate over the next twenty years. Personally, I hope I don’t live that long because circumstances are going to be so horrific that I don’t want to be around to experience them. I’m not being alarmist. I have a strong background in ecology and agriculture and statistics and psychology. When I say that we are in the end game of a forty-four year war, I’m not kidding. And end games get very messy. Throw in all the other real problems besides all the ones that feminists have engineered and everyone, men and women, are going to live in absolute misery.

And that’s if they live at all. The casual disregard women have for the frightening developments in our world today is chilling. They are too short-sighted to see let alone understand them. And they have been receiving so many hand-outs from the government for so long that they don’t even appreciate that they are even receiving them and that they are run out. And as women keep demanding more, the system will become even more stressed. Things are going to get very bad. I know. It’s my job to know and I’ve been doing it successfully for twenty-seven years. My reports are always the minority reports. But they always turn out to be correct. Always.

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woggy July 26, 2012 at 15:47

@Andie

The well is poisoned, as you say.

To use a different analogy:
The foundation has been undermined and there are termites in the walls.
Expecting a man to enthusiastically help in picking out curtains, when he knows the whole darned thing may well land on his head, is just naive.
Cheering a woman on for her “let’s have you buy curtains and sire babies” ultimatum – in light of current reality – is sort of sadistic IMO.

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Darryl X July 26, 2012 at 16:46

@ walking in hell2 -

“Maybe in the future we will see legalized paternity fraud–where the government randomly assigns child support duties to childless men, as is done in Israel.”

Actually, I thought paternity fraud was legal here already. I’m not aware of any instances in the past forty-four years when it’s been punished. Except that the two men and the children who are its victims have been punished. But I’m referring to punishment of the woman.

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walking in hell2 July 26, 2012 at 23:14

@Darryl X

I would be curious to know what you think is going to happen.

Here is one heinous development. State agencies are intercepting the federal benefits of men that owe child support, and leaving them to starve.

http://www.expertlaw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54177

Really sick.

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greyghost July 27, 2012 at 00:18

Walking in hell2
That kind of thing pisses me off and why I am here. The poor guy is going to off himself.

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Art Vandelay July 27, 2012 at 03:17

I can see how wanting to be a stay at home at mom comes across as a a shit test, and I know that plenty of men get screwed when they agree.

Well it’s only fair to lay down the parameters of the relationship before you enter any agreements that can’t be revoked without a ton of damage. The thing is, most women won’t take “no” for an answer because she doesn’t have to face the consequences of her choices. If the man says he doesn’t want her to stay home she can do just that after the children are born (or even before that). If the man doesn’t want children, she can still get pregnant and there is nothing he can do about it. I like to call this “his fault” divorce.

The man has no recourse. The courts won’t help him. Most married Friends and Family won’t stick with him. He has only two choices: Take it like a bitch or engage in a “scorched earth” strategy, leaving the pregnant or lazy woman, taking all the money out and disappear to the best of his ability. Either way his life isn’t ruined by accident but by the choice of a person who supposedly loves him.

There can’t be any trust if there is no disincentive for the other side to deceive you.

You can tell us all the time that NAWALT, but why would we take your word for it? Where is the women fighting in public against the divorce courts, rampant misandry and babymomma epidemic?

The problem is, AWCLT, All Women Can Be Like This. The legal framework needs to be brought down first, then we can talk marriage and family. But as long as there are enough marks (like your Engineer) around the supposedly NAWALT women can just pick them off and live their lives.

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Darryl X July 27, 2012 at 04:23

@ walking in hell2 -

“State agencies are intercepting the federal benefits of men that owe child support, and leaving them to starve.”

Yes, I know they are. That’s why there is no political, legal, social or financial solution to our dilemma. Only that which our Forefathers left us: Revolution as an affirmative defense against the violence which was done to us first and without provocation.

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Darryl X July 27, 2012 at 08:15

@ greyghost -

Yes, the probability that he will commit suicide is great. Belief by feminists that they are not responsible for his suicide is correct. BUT belief by feminists that they are not responsible for the dire circumstances promoting his suicide is not correct. They are directly responsible. Ayn Rand wrote,” You can deny reality but not its consequences.”

This is not like a feminist who commits suicide because her husband will not acquiesce to her solipsism and manipulation of him. Or because she feels guilty about something she has done or she is suffering the consequences of her own criminal behavior.

She is directly responsible for her death. Her husband has no responsibility just because he objects to being a victim of her fraud or refuses to participate or cooperate in her criminal behavior. There are no practical consequences for the woman. His decision not to participate in her fraud is not responsible for any practical consequences for her even if she is starving and denied medical care.

However, men who have had everything stolen from them including their children and resources necessary for them to take care of themselves for no reason and through no mechanism of their own making have suffered serious practical loss and their ability to support and take care of themselves has been crippled if not eliminated all together. And feminists are responsible for that.

If a man in those circumstances doesn’t kill himself, he will just have to live a little longer and suffer considerably and die eventually as a result of theft and fraud by feminists. So they are responsible. And they should be held accountable. In that case it’s not suicide, it’s murder. Because most of these men do not suffer mental illnes but have instead been denied all resources necessary for them to take care of themselves (and others) and their circumstances have become so painful and dire that suicide is the better option. While these feminists enjoy lives of excess.

They are so short-sighted that they do not understand or appreciate or care that their irrational and excessive behavior is a direct cause of the man’s suicide. They do not understand cause and effect. Or if they do they are so psychopathic that they narrow their range of vision to exclude their participation in the crime. Feminists shoot a man to death and then rationalize their innocence by blaming the bullet even though they pulled the trigger. This is a very sick mentality but it informs our government.

It may not be much concilation but these feminists, these monsters, are going to hell when they die. Remember Thomas Ball who died for our children. He was an innocent and good man. No man is perfect and he did not deserve to die. But these feminists killed him and then they washed their hands and wiped their mouths and said he killed himself. These people are truly sick.

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Cloudy Balzack July 27, 2012 at 08:34

The real problem with feminism: there are idiots that aren’t getting a benefit from it thinking that it’s worth something a la MRA.

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zed July 27, 2012 at 09:13

I can see how wanting to be a stay at home at mom comes across as a a shit test, and I know that plenty of men get screwed when they agree.

The thing which made it look most like a shit test was the context of how it was presented – as the specific and only subject of “the chat.” “The chat” is always an ambush which ends with an ultimatum.

How long has this guy been dating this girl? Where is the magic line that a woman crosses from being a “date” to becoming a “girlfriend”? How much time have they spent together, and this is the first time the subject has come up? During the circle-and-sniff phase of dating they never talked about their hopes, dreams, and aspirations?

Why is the subject coming up now? (tick, tick, tick, tick)

If have not already, I suggest that you and your friend read Dalrock’s site from beginning to end. http://dalrock.wordpress.com/

As self-described “happily married father in a post feminist world”, I think he has the best handle of anyone out there on the many pitfalls that sink contemporary marriages.

Not trying to speak for him, but I think most of the message of his site could be boiled down to one statement – “If you are a woman who wants a husband, then look for a husband, not a ‘boyfriend’, and consider what it takes to be a wife, not a ‘girlfriend’. ”

Several years ago I wrote an essay called “Escape From the Dating Trap.” The Dating Trap is when two people get on a train (bus, streetcar) with different destinations in mind. In many cases, the man is just enjoying the ride, wants to take it to the park, have some fun, and then take it back home. In many cases, the woman wants/hopes that is headed toward a particular destination, and tries to keep the man on it until they get there. Things get ugly when the man realizes that he is coming up to the last stop before the ultimate destination, and since he does not want to go to the ultimate destination, he gets off and the woman feels abandoned.

With divorce-theft and child-support extortion rampant in our culture, any woman who would feign offense at a man expressing concerns about that is running a con game. It is not unreasonable for a man to demand some “earnest money” up front, and make sure the woman has as much skin in the game as he does.

Even Paul McCartney when searching for his 3rd wife did not go out and marry another Stumpy McGold-digger. His new wife has financial assets of her own in the same league as his. He is not going to take the chance again that planting one sprog will give some woman the belief that she can lay claim to half of everything he spent more than 40 years building – with damn near every woman in the world supporting having the White Knights of the world confiscate his wealth to turn over to “mom.”

Yeah, the well is poisoned all right. But, instead of getting pissed at the guys who are getting sick from drinking it along with you, why don’t you get really pissed at all the stupid women who have done the poisoning?

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Anonymous age 70 July 27, 2012 at 09:54

I was 8 years old in 1950, and I could spell very well, thank you. Liberal education sucks.

Here is an excerpt from FRIENDLY VILLAGE, page 228, the same reader I used in 1950.

“They fastened the bell on the ribbon around the cat’s neck so that it would never come off. Then they put the cat into the house for safekeeping.”

we had to understand the words, and spell them correctly. I suspect the second grade vocabulary today is somewhat simpler.

>>Keyster July 25, 2012 at 13:25

I saw a study not long ago that linked lung cancer to BOTH smoking and eating pussy. Seriously.

>>All I want is to be left alone, to cook good food, and to drink good beer. Every women I avoid allows me this.

Oh, man, love it!!!

>>Darryl X July 26, 2012 at 12:29

Around 1953 or 1954, my dad realized he could not support us in Arkansas. So, he took the bus back to the Midwest to work two jobs and send us money until he could move us back. We took him to the bus station in Bentonville, and I will never forget the haunted look on his face as he got on that bus.

He came back by bus two or three times a year until 1956 when we were able to move back permanently.

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bruno July 27, 2012 at 14:10

Today i watched something about the Olympics on TV with my son. Of course it was about women athletes.

I said: “Do you know why women have their own separate competition?
It’s because then they can win also something.
If competitions were mixed, women would not win anything.”

We laughed quietly together, not because it was really funny, it’s just a simple truth, but because it’s taboo to mention something like that.

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Gay State Girl July 28, 2012 at 07:34

Oh grow up you guys.

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Gay State Girl July 28, 2012 at 07:50

“in the pleasure of living in the magical world of young children.”

Give it up. Society demands that we provide these brats with the world on a silver platter. That is why so women forgo having children until years of work: So that they can spoil their kids with even more goodies.

“After 20 years those drones won’t even remember your name while those children will have grown into adults that actually care about you and will be around to provide companionship and meaning in your old age.”

I know very devoted mothers (from my grandmother’s generation) who devoted their lives to their children, who have grown up to abandon them. You have to leave something for yourself, because a child’s loyalty is not a guarantee.

This is a multidimensional dimensional issue.

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Andie July 28, 2012 at 09:29

@ Zed

Yeah, the well is poisoned all right. But, instead of getting pissed at the guys who are getting sick from drinking it along with you, why don’t you get really pissed at all the stupid women who have done the poisoning?

Do I come across as pissed off at men? I’m sorry to hear that. I assure you it’s not true. I am much more angry at the women who have thrown men and children under the bus to fulfill their own ideologically scripted desires.

Actually, I was thinking of all of you last night. I accepted an invitation to a 62/50 party with cover charges going to a charity but I didn’t know that 62/50 means that people born in 1962 are turning 50 this year, so I spent the night with a huge crowd of 50 year old women, many of whom brought their daughters.

Most of the women were divorced, or on second marriages. They were seriously vile in the things they had to say about the men they were with. Everything I have ever read on this site and more. And they were all fat! I don’t mean a little plump. I mean FAT! Dressed in clothes they were 20 years and 30 pounds over the limit for.

I honestly think being overweight should be seen as a red flag, too. Allowing yourself to get fat shows enormous disrespect for your partner. It’s like they were all saying to their husbands “I don’t give a fuck about you and your desires. Imma just eat this whole bag of chips anyways”. Sure, some people are fat. They just are. But most people ALLOW themselves to get fat. At 5’6 and 140lbs, I was by far the slimmest woman in the room, and that’s not even that slender. That’s a perfectly normal weight.

It was an eye-opener. I didn’t say anything when I heard all this vile crap coming out of their mouths, because I didn’t know what to say. And I felt so bad for all the younger women. The well has been poisoned indeed, and I wonder if young woman have ever even had a taste of clean water? Not with those women for mothers.

Anyway, Zed – trust me. I am not pissed at men.

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Gay State Girl July 28, 2012 at 09:59

Re: women “abandoning their children.
*Sigh* This is a multifaceted issue. Career women are no longer romanticized; it is just a given. Women usually put off children or work during their childhood not for idealogical reasons but so that they earn more to spoil their children.

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Gay State Girl July 28, 2012 at 10:08

I would argue that women need their own lives for the sake of their children rather themselves so that they can distinguish the emotional needs of children from their own.

Perhaps there is a misconception about so called career women and neglect of children. I live in an rich class suburb and most of the women I know are educated professionals but have no social lives of their own and live vicariously through the lives of their children. And as a result children do not learn to become independent and develop their own identities.

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zed July 28, 2012 at 12:12

My own rhetoric tripped me up, Andie. No, you don’t really come off as pissed at men, but also you don’t show much evidence of taking action based on your anger toward the people who created the situations you are angry about.

You say that the experience was an “eye opener” for you. Well, it’s good that your eyes are now opened. Those women are a decade or so younger than I am, and women just exactly like them have made up an ever increasing percentage of my dating pool since college. If they disgusted you, imagine how disgusting they are to the men they are sizing up to be their 2nd, or 3rd, (or 4th or 5th) future ex-husband.

A man does not have to escape from one of these foul creatures if he never lets her get her hooks into him in the first place.

Which brings us back to your friend who wants a man to support her to stay at home and take care of her kids. If her mother was anything like those women at the party, and in my experience at least 80% of the women I know are, marriage to her will turn into a nightmare.

I shrugged off 40 years of harassment to get married, and there are very few men who are in marriages which make me think I missed out on anything except having to walk through hell.

In the long run, feminism is going to cost women far more than it ever gained for them. Men have had to pay the short-term costs, but that balloon payment coming up is going to be a doozey.

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Ubermensch July 29, 2012 at 02:53

Too bad this poor little girl is going to grow up and find that she’ll need to offer blowjobs/sex, just for food. Her career will be the last thing on her mind …

Feminism, along with other inescapable issues, such as peak oil, population explosion, extreme pressure on arable land, etc, will ensure the backlash against her generation of women will be terrible.

Turns out her “vegina” and “bobes” will be worth having, after all. They may allow her to survive.

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sue October 20, 2013 at 09:15

women focus on careers because they know full well that to become financially dependent on another person is borderline insanity. the reality is, it truely is a primate-eat-primate masculist world. feminism is but a straw-womyn excuse for the satanic regime to continue unmanning men (with stupid “alpha” and “beta” divisionary tactics) invalidating (if not murdering) children and shaming women – for the gross crime for wanting to stay home and make sandwiches. it was the “men” who pimped out women to the corporations.

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