I came across this remarkable video, in which a young Julia Roberts has an “encounter” with an orangutan on the Leakey Preserve on Borneo (try to ignore the German translation over her voice). The incident was captured on film, and looked to be fairly serious, although the handlers prevented the unthinkable. Apparently, orangutans rape a woman on the preserve every year or so, and this one in particular, named “Kosasu,” took a shining to Ms. Roberts.
I’ve previously wondered why so many female primatologists put themselves in these situations, but now Julia has explained: it’s for the “raw thrill.”
Here’s another video concerning the incident, in which Roberts is quite clear about the ape’s intent. Before making his move, the orang is the epitome of the aloof alpha male:
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Women paint men in 2 ways: pathetic or dangerous. When they say you’re a bitter loser virgin basement neck-beard, they’re trying to inspire you to be a scary creep pervert thug asshole. When they say you’re the latter, that’s just wishful thinking on their part; how they perceive you has nothing to do with what you’re like or how you feel. They want you to revolve around them. And they especially want you to suffer for revolving around them.
I’m not sure if this is intended to be a critique of Ms. Roberts or alpha males.
Anyway, from the primate’s point of view, she was totally “asking for it”. Seriously, he’s sitting there, minding his own business, munching on a twig, and this female approaches him, squats down near him, clearly being attentive. Then she gets closer and closer. What the hell else could she possibly want? You can almost see the orangutan thinking, “Oh all right, I might as well – let’s get this over with. Assume the position.” Many women just don’t understand the signals that they send out.
Was it only me who was rooting for the Oranutan?
Neither. It’s just a glimpse into a really uncomfortable reality.
wikibollocks
I was fortunate enough to grow up in the region, wikibollocks is even wrong about the name, orang utan means red man
apes raping wimminz, complete and utter fucking bollocks
wimminz having sex with apes and chimps, yeah, happens a lot more than you think, like wimminz having sex with dogs and horses and snakes and suchlike
nota bene
in one of the pink panther films when a man in a gorilla suit is left locked in with a gorilla and gets raped, it is fucking hilarious
what’s good for the goose…
Woman does stupid oblivious shit. Man bail her out. Rinse and repeat until distain and rejection occur.
Mr Price!
Surely you are not suggesting that these women enjoy being in the company of humanoid males that are known to sexually desire human females, are so physically powerful that they could easily overwhelm her, and yet are externally restrained (e.g. by white knight handlers/keepers)?
I mean, what a terrible thing to think; I am sure this is not what you mean.
Furthermore, I am sure it bears no relation what-so-ever to the epidemic of female prison guards being caught ‘sleeping with’ thug inmates.
Nor could it be a manifestation of any sort of innate female drive to ‘tease’ or ‘test’ males by showing them ‘the goods’ then denying and punishing them (via other men) when they respond.
No, none of this could possibly be the case, and I do trust you are not insinuating it.
afor – ‘Trading Places’?
can’t remember it in the Pink Panther films, but hey maybe it happens in both.
That encounter wasn’t any fun for the ape.
On a side note, I wanted to say the Feminists are angry as hell. It goes to show they’re getting really angry about the MRM because we’re scoring a lot of points on them.
Of course a very important question was never asked about Ms. Roberts “state” at the time.
“Uhm, yes, uhm, so Ms. Roberts, are you, uhm, about to menstrate or in menstration right now, because if so we recommend not going near any of the male orangutangs at this time.”
This invokes all manner of SlutWalk rhetoric.
She should be allowed to freely walk about without being harrassed by rapists. Take back the jungle Julia! “NO MEANS NO!”
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I would question this orang outang’s taste for females…
How desperate can an ape be?
“Uhm, yes, uhm, so Ms. Roberts, are you, uhm, about to menstrate or in menstration right now, because if so we recommend not going near any of the male orangutangs at this time.”
True story: my high school chemistry teacher told us that when he was in college, the mother of one of his fraternity brothers came to visit. The fraternity also had this St. Bernhard dog. Apparently, the kid’s mother was menstrating at the time and this dog just was overcome with a mating urge, knocked her over and was trying to mount her. It took three guys to pull the dog off of her. Yikes.
“Tosh.0″ also featured a video showing the same thing, but the punchline was, shall we say, decidedly racist.
I would say the animal kingdom is a strange place, but the point is that humanity is also still part of the animal kingdom, and we forget this at our peril.
She was communing with nature, as celebrities like to do, like swimming with dolphins. You must admit that Julia Roberts is slightly more attractive than a female orangutan (but just slightly), so can you blame the guy?
She said she was vibrating from head to foot, it was a raw thrill and she gushed excitedly at how strong he was. Hmmm.
Based on the usual feminist response to reality intruding, I’ll guess that an orang-utan trying to shag a hag resulted in feminists demanding a cull of lemurs, marmosets and tamarin monkeys, because they’re all guilty of being members of the primatearchy.
She didn’t look too happy at first but afterwards she seemed radiant.
I doubt that thing finds human females particuarly attractive but he’s a male primate so if it’s available it’ll do. Maybe she violated some orang body language rule or said the wrong thing.
The reason primate studies are done mainly by females is that the late Dr. Leaky wanted close studies of apes in case they became extinct before much close information is gathered and he realized that they wouldn’t appreciate an adult human male hanging around. Leaky knew they’d tolerate females and began training girls like Jane Goodall.
It has nothing to do with and special female qualities beyond the quality of females not likely to be seen by males as rivals for females, a universal trait of mammals.
I like animals but the penchant of celebrities for seeking out those that don’t really interest them seems fake. Why do it? What does “commune with nature” mean? We’re always in “nature”.
Uncomfortable reality indeed. That monkey made her feel like a woman. No kidding guys. She just experienced a real live rape fantasy, and loved it.
She loved it. Sick bitch.
Now they are going to put the poor monkey’s name on the registered sex offender’s list and he will never be able to work again.
“You can almost see the orangutan thinking, “Oh all right, I might as well – let’s get this over with. Assume the position.” ”
LOL!
I wonder if charges have been pressed.
It is well known to primatologists that the biggest rapist on Earth is the oran-utan. Zoologists and zoo keepers will tell you that no human being can watch oran-utans mate in the wild or captivity and say it was anything other than rape.
Apparently females just don’t like sex, and yet the species has managed to survive by other forms of expedience.
I was fortunate enough to grow up in the region, wikibollocks is even wrong about the name, orang utan means red man
Actually it means like a person of the forest.Oren is the Malay word for orange, orang means person. And I wouldn’t worry too much about spelling because these simple people of the forest where these animals live don’t have a written language and can only count to three.
Pekakas untok tidak buat anak.
Jane Goodall was absolutely known to be having sex with male chimpanzees….
Everyone,
I have a poll up about whether we are in a Misandry Bubble (not news to anyone here, but it will still be a shocker to some on the outside) :
http://www.singularity2050.com/2012/06/a-first-quarter-poll-on-the-misandry-bubble.html
Vote often, my friends. Show them your numbers….
To apes, Julia Roberts is the equivalent of an aging fat single mother with 3 babydaddys(2 of which are tattooed on her flabs) who yaps about men not being able to handle her. That Orangutan was just being ironic.
They should just use this footage and insert it in ‘Pretty Woman’ instead of the Jason Alexander quasi-rape (rather, have sex without paying) scene..
They could get a lot of aging feminists to buy tickets to see the new edition film….
God, Scorpios are so fuckin hot. (I mean the orangeutan, not Roberts.)
This makes me think, actually.
Does the bro code extend to orangutans?
Putting all the silly comments aside, there are certain Mammals that are “turned on” by the smell of human Pheremones. For example a friend of mine who was a farm worker in Britain when he was young, was surprised that sometimes Sows that were in Estrus would follow him around when he was going to feed them in their pens. They would also arch their backs, which is normal mating behavior. It is well known that some hormones are the same in mammals so it is not surprising that such things happen from time to time.
@AfOR
wimminz having sex with apes and chimps, yeah, happens a lot more than you think, like wimminz having sex with dogs and horses and snakes and suchlike
I read a news time ago about the % of search on internet on search engines like Google and Bing on the Zoophilia topic, and the sex of who search it, the amount of women looking for such thing is amazing.
I think the primitive nature of women is to have sex with anyone or anything, and is not new, when looking for documentation on the topic, images from centuries ago almost always have women instead of men
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-arRDmqhtp9Y/TwHZqfpp2OI/AAAAAAAAAYk/A97CYB7j4Zg/s1600/Sex.jpg
http://data.whicdn.com/images/17442404/260px-Franz_von_Bayros_020_large.jpg
http://data.whicdn.com/images/3231442/dog-fuck_large.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Tako_to_ama_retouched.jpg/300px-Tako_to_ama_retouched.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/Book_with_sexual_content_15th_century_Iran_003_cr.jpg/220px-Book_with_sexual_content_15th_century_Iran_003_cr.jpg
Do you think all this women going around with animals like chiuauas kissing them in the mouth, saying they sleep together in the bed and the high number of women having snake is just for having a pet?
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4004/4258641296_30b6a1c754_m.jpg
http://a2.ecimages.myspacecdn.com/images02/27/2fb28d625e7b4f9da85b507d8fa5dedd/l.jpg
Roberts would have been raped by the ape if the MEN weren’t around, the ape clearly was putting her in mating position and for the ape’s instinct as most animals do, when a female happen to be so close in the position Roberts was is a acceptance of mating
Watch here…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjXn5uTYL9s&feature=related
…how the female gorilla does EXACTLY what Robert does.
I read in this book that between 33% and 50% of copulations among orangutans are rapes.
http://www.amazon.fr/Sexual-Coercion-Primates-Humans-Evolutionary/dp/0674033248
I realise that this might be in bad taste (but I can’t resist)
Is this where Gingers come from? Just how many Orangs are there in Scotland anyway?
(I apologise)
Price:
I can understand what’s going on here. Ms. Julia, like most American women, have peculiar fascination with primates. Gorillas, baboons, chimps, orangutans &c. are not dissimilar to the kinds of men they routinely pursue for relationships, except that the monkeys are somewhat more productive, intelligent, and hygenic.
MRA:
Most women, especially in feminist cultures, are indifferent to sex and their choices of sexual partners. They hate men in feminist cultures and will reflexively gravitate towards the lowest and most dysfunctional males, and even non-humans if possible.
Mojo:
‘Does the bro code extend to orangs?’
LOL, I’d like to hear how the Gamesters explain why apes are ‘alphas’. LOLLLLLL
@ Nico -
“I read in this book that between 33% and 50% of copulations among orangutans are rapes.”
I seem to recall reading somewhere that ALL sex among humans is rape. Hmmm…. Now where did I read that?
@ Rebel -
“I wonder if charges have been pressed.”
The orangeutan is doing twenty years in Ossining.
@ Born Free: “She said she was vibrating from head to foot, it was a raw thrill and she gushed excitedly at how strong he was.”
She also said that she considered it a compliment. Twice.
@ “The One” -
“It goes to show they’re getting really angry about the MRM because we’re scoring a lot of points on them.”
I don’t want to score points on them. I want to obliterate them.
@ Eric -
“They hate men in feminist cultures and will reflexively gravitate towards the lowest and most dysfunctional males, and even non-humans if possible.”
That’s because feminists (the women) are addicted to power and control and dysfunctional men are easier to manipulate and deceive.
@ Eric
“LOL, I’d like to hear how the Gamesters explain why apes are ‘alphas’. LOLLLLLL”
Duh, because an ape will “fail” every shit test, guaron-teed.
Your pathetic hate of all things “game” is not dissimilar to wimminz pathetic hate of all things “male”
You will never be whole until you pluck that particular splinter out of your own eye and heart Eric.
Now if this was a vampire Orangutan there’d be a million feminists heading for the jungle.
AfoR:
I don’t have a particular problem with Game so far as it seeks to deter men from the weaknesses associated with ‘beta’ qualities and helps them navigate a feminised world. And it may help some men who lack skills that they need if they encounter a non-feminised woman. My problem is with those who elevate it into some kind of panacea and dismiss anybody who doesn’t practice it as less than real men.
My point was that, taken to its extremes, an ape exhibits more sexual charisma than all that Game’s teachings can instill—when applied to a feminised woman. Women under feminism hate sex and they hate men, so it logically follows that no amount of Game can help any man try to relate to them in a sexual way.
@ Eric
So do you hate all catholics or muslims for the same reason?
Do you dismiss the totality of everything in the bible and koran for the same reason?
If you are acting with equanimity towards game, you must.
Finally, “Women under feminism hate sex and they hate men, so it logically follows that no amount of Game can help any man try to relate to them in a sexual way.” have you learned NOTHING?
Not even dweebs like dworkin “hate” sex, they enjoy an orgasm just like the rest of us, and they don’t “hate” men, they are just as envious as fuck because they know that we are not driven by uncontrollable cunt urges to fuck anything and everything.
ANY man can relate to ANY feminist wimminz, pump and dump the slut, and never look back, don’t buy her a coffee, don’t talk to her, don’t pay her any heed at all, in fact, ape the ape
that IS what game teaches, in a nutshell, forget ALL your humanity when dealing with wimminz, treat them as particularly nasty and evil cattle.
It’s been noticed that adolescent girls around puberty develop a deep interest in large animals. No doubt this is Nature getting them ready to control men. But it’s gone too far and now they see men as beasts and beasts as men. It’s like the Island of Dr Moreau out there with Women choosing the chimps instead of Chalton Heston.
Remember, the Orangutans were administrators – not a bad catch compared with the nerdy chimps and brutish gorillas.
What, the male didn’t “wine her and dine her” first? He didn’t beg for each “kiss” with a piece of jewelry from Kay? Or was it just that he didn’t call her in the morning? LOL
Putting legal interpretations of human behavior onto the behavior of animals is foolish. “Wow, I just watched a coyote stalk and murder a rabbit.” “Stalk”, yes. “Murder”, no.
Sex is a part of nature. Most animals higher on the evolutionary scale than fungi or earthworms reproduce sexually – and even the earthworm does, except they are all hermaphrodites.
Animals are smart enough to not screw up normal life activities – like mating and eating.
Would that humans could be as smart.
OT re Julia Roberts with the hots for an Orangutan but one of the women involved has her same first and last name
In 2004, a NINETY-SIX-year-old woman by the name of Julia Roberts in North Carolina got busted for selling crack cocaine. Since then, two octogenarian women have also been busted for selling the same drug. This info can be found on http://www.thesmokinggun.com
Needless to say, all three crack-dealing hos probably went to the geriatric wards of women’s prisons (one of the octogenarian women in FL, the other in AL) because none of their three home states wanted the PR nightmare of an old lady, albeit a crack dealer, jumped by another inmate or forced to eat tuna by a younger inmate.
“Just1X July 1, 2012 at 13:30
I realise that this might be in bad taste (but I can’t resist)
Is this where Gingers come from? Just how many Orangs are there in Scotland anyway?
………”
Actually the deciphered neandertal genome had genes for red hair. We also share some characteristic neandertal genes.
I bet it wasn’t humans raping their females but human females making themselves available to the men.
This all makes me wonder that since men are so much weaker than the various apes whether or not human females haven’t caused that, making us progressively weaker somehow over millions of years…
I’m taking the fight to the Feminists on Freenode IRC network. They’re invading male spaces and dictating to us like overlords.
For example, here is a major software project:
http://wiki.debian.org/AntiHarassment
In my local airport there is a double-sided public moralizing advert with Jane Goodall posing next to an ape and on the other side, a photo of Jackie Robinson.
@ TFH -
“Jane Goodall was absolutely known to be having sex with male chimpanzees….”
I don’t doubt it but is there a reference for that.
Hahahahaha. “Vibrating”! Exact word used. Love it. “If Only Lyle could have been like this”
[Game] “My problem is with those who elevate it into some kind of panacea”
It’s not a panacea, of course. Women have always been like that, but our current problems come from elsewhere. Many of the injustices in the marriage/divorce racket are implemented by male enforcers, for example. They would be immune to game.
” and dismiss anybody who doesn’t practice it as less than real men.”
IMO the game community is just a competitive hierarchy like many other male endeavors. Where they position themselves on the hierarchy is important to them; so they evangelize their importance to anyone who’ll listen.
@ Ted -
“Many of the injustices in the marriage/divorce racket are implemented by male enforcers, for example.”
I’ve heard or read others conclude this but my response is always the same: women still choose to participate and drag their husband / partner in. They don’t have to do it. No matter how many male enforcers there are, ultimately it is the woman who chooses to wield them against her husband / partner.
jaego July 1, 2012 at 15:42
It’s been noticed that adolescent girls around puberty develop a deep interest in large animals.
Most women’s masturbation experience during early puberty tend to be with stuffed animals, I understand kids having teddy bears BUT an adult women sleeping with a stuffed bear bigger than her is totally sexual.
You can prove this by reading women forums on internet, how their experience and sexuality starting with masturbation like humans do during puberty is always the same……a stuffed animal in their bed.
Jenny Mccarthy’s first sexual partner her teddy bear
http://www.3news.co.nz/Jenny-Mccarthys-first-sexual-partner-her-teddy-bear/tabid/418/articleID/182627/Default.aspx
Why do you think all this models are now posing with teddies bears on erotics magazines?
http://hqwallpapers.eu/wallpaper/lingerie_women_stuffed_animals_teddy_bears_natalia_velez_desktop_1920x1200_wallpaper-1088322.jpg
http://icecreamheadache.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/en-feature-vday-model-20090121.jpg?w=600
Tim arrives at Purity’s house late in the evening, wearing a smoking jacket and ready for love. Little does he know, Purity is busy dry humping her Teddy Bear. Yes, you read that right – she’s dry humping her stuffed animal and calling out “Yes! Yes!”
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4076/4866941850_57acb5cc1a.jpg
And thanks to internet, there are many women under “amateur category” making porn videos where they have sex with giants teddies bears.
Just Google: “girl fucks teddy bear” and look how many girls are doing this from their own room.
AfoR:
Looking at Dworkin’s picture, I somehow don’t think attractiveness to men is a strong priority in her life.
‘That is what Game teaches, forget all your humanity when dealing with women.’
Which is why I don’t like it. Men should never become less than human for the sake of appeasing women. Women can make themselves worthy of us, not the other way around.
Besides, as you see from Welmer’s video, to ‘Game’ someone like Julia Roberts would mean a man’s lowering himself to an ape. This is degrading to men; not empowering them.
“women still choose to participate and drag their husband / partner in”
But think how much easier it would be for them to make the proper choice if they didn’t have the (overwhelmingly male-enforced) system on their side.
Ted:
You’re right about all of that; the Game guys (the ones who use it responsibly) really need to take cognizance of the fact that the ‘competative hierarchy’ it fosters is also its Achilles Heel.
“I read in this book that between 33% and 50% of copulations among orangutans are rapes.”
Considering that none of the females said yes, 1000% of them were rape. Nine out of ten don’t get reported, of course.
Off Topic. Today as I was driving and listening to the radio they broadcast an “Amber Alert.” For those outside the U.S., this is from the U.S. Department of Justice website:
If a kid goes missing the cops notify broadcast entities like the radio station I was listening to and they give the details the cops release to them.
The “abducted” kid was a little boy. Then they gave the name of the suspected abductor. As soon as I heard that it was a man I figured it was probably the kid’s father protecting his son from his baby-momma and/or her current thug-boyfriend.
I hate that I have learned not to take things like this seriously without a LOT of further details, but when cops work with feminists and baby-mommas to accuse a man my initial assumption is that they are lying. I hope the kid is okay, but I also realize he’s probably safer now than when he woke up this morning.
I call bullshit on that.
A couple of interesting videos, but this topic has drawn out some awesome stupidity.
Translation: being on the verge of getting overpowered and raped was tremendously exciting.
But it would be very un-PC for a critcal-minded male to bring that up.
MRA:
Stories like these should illustrate clearly to anyone just how little women in our culture value men for sex partners. The fact that a high number of women report experimenting with lesbianism is also telling.
Normal sexual relationships are about sharing and mutuality. But feminised women have such a deep hatred for men that other women and even animals are preferable to them.
http://bonvito.wordpress.com/2010/06/07/jane-goodall-is-a-good-sport
It’s true what MRA is saying about stuffed animals though.
Eric July 1, 2012 at 18:22
MRA:
Stories like these should illustrate clearly to anyone just how little women in our culture value men for sex partners. The fact that a high number of women report experimenting with lesbianism is also telling.
Women are driven by emotions, (I’m not telling men lack feelings) women who report to have “explored” lesbianism do it most time because they feel alone, and a women who is long time lesbian take advantage of this, why do you think lesbian feminists control women’s domestic violence shelter? why do you think women go lesbian when they are in college after their boyfriend dump her or cheat on her?
When women go lesbian there is always a long-time lesbian who take advantage of this, touch her, hug her, kiss her and so go on, adding that women tend to be more open and tolerable toward another woman, we never see a women punching and hitting another women because she kiss her and touch her breast, not, they do it to men but never women.
When I was 5 I had a “Yogi Bear” stuffed animal. I poked his belly with a screwdriver and was intrigued by the resistance of the fabric, so I impaled him numerous times.
Later, my parents were alarmed at the apparent viciousness of the act. I had difficulty explaining that it was all in the name of science.
It wasn’t Jane Goodall, it was Diane Fossy who was rumored to get the “Big 3 Incher” from the gorillas she was working with. (Yeah, gorillas measure about 3 inches. So when some one says they are hung like one, you can feel REALLY bad for them)
At Marine World here in northern California, one of the tiger handlers told me women were not allowed to work with any primate over 20 pounds. When I asked why he explained it bluntly that they could not control the animals once she went pre-menstral & was releasing hormones. Females became aggressive towards her, to perserve their own place in the troop, and the males…well, they would get horny.
Since your average male chimp is about 5’6″, 160 pounds & has muscle strength of 8 times a human male of the same mass, nothing will stop them short of a bullet.
Jaego:
‘It’s like the Island of Dr. Moreau with the women choosing the chimps instead of Charlton Heston.’
It has to be totally embarrassing to the Gamecocks. Julia Roberts would be ‘top class game’ according to them; and despite all their efforts and study and cultivating techniques, they get ‘outgamed’ by a monkey! LOL
Here’s the whole scene (and all 5 parts #499-503) in English, and the set-up begins around 3:20. The bit about vibrating from head to toe doesn’t appear to be in this version, but there is still some primo rationalization hamster on display.
http://juliarobertsvideos.com/play.php?vid=503
Born Free ” She said she was vibrating from head to foot, it was a raw thrill and she gushed excitedly at how strong he was. Hmmm.”
Of course. Handling a powerful male gives women the same adrenalin thrill that men get from handling a powerful motorcycle, car, plane, rocket, etc. Women do not favor things like machines as much because they can’t figure out how to read and manipulate them or get other men to protect them when they get in over their heads.
Julia Roberts seems better than most Hollywood women though. I mean how many would marry a a camera man like she did? And their marriage seems to be working.
BTW – How do we know the orangutan was going to bang her? Maybe he was going to snap her scrawny, annoying, neck to get her out of his face.
Last comment. Notice how it is mostly male primates that they put out there to be subjected to these humiliations. Even as savage jungle animals go, males are easier to deal with. A female orangutan would probably have torn Roberts into bits of hamburger without nary a warning or second thought.
Gentlemen, I have to confess that tonight I orchestrated the brutal murder of a cow and ate its remains in front of everyone.
@elmer
All those women who talk shit about male sexuality and act like it’s the worst thing in the world are fucking teddy bears? I really don’t get how the game crowd can stand being around those parasites long enough to close the deal.
Discover Magazine
‘Apparently women (but not men) like monkey sex… literally.’
“… a nonhuman sexual stimulus would elicit a genital response in women but not in men”
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/2011/01/21/ncbi-rofl-apparently-women-but-not-men-like-monkey-sex-literally/
this video will teach you more than most PUA books.
I can break down how to get a girl in bed in one sentence, no need to write a book; the more you act like an animal, the more turned on she will get.
Don’t forget the shaved, female orangutan that was being used as a prostitute.
Zorro July 1, 2012 at 12:31
It is well known to primatologists that the biggest rapist on Earth is the oran-utan. Zoologists and zoo keepers will tell you that no human being can watch oran-utans mate in the wild or captivity and say it was anything other than rape.
Apparently females just don’t like sex, and yet the species has managed to survive by other forms of expedience.
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resistance is ultimately shit test against inferior genetics
Men build societies for peace, fun, exploration of mind, science and law plus for pure personal reasons.
Women just come along and behave like Bonobo’s. They do not have the urges nor the needs to join in and participate, except for being physically closer to males.
There are still good tactical reasons for having women help out among MRA’s, but besides that . . .
. . . men must understand that they are on their own!
We cannot save, rebuild nor develop our present societies with the current shackles of stupid egalitarianism.
Nico July 1, 2012 at 13:17
I read in this book that between 33% and 50% of copulations among orangutans are rapes.
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the truth is that for the vast majority of animals (in particular mammals) the females don’t select their mates
males fight other males for exclusive sexual access (drive others out of territory or kill them) and then have their way with the female whether or not she has a headache
yes, natural selection favors rape (i.e. sexual coercion of female by male)
thing is if that’s so then what does that say about the ‘naturalness’ of feminism?
or for that matter even our own conservative ways of thinking about sex?
Talking about tingles….
It seems that male strippers are everywhere these days and feminists and western women are loving it. They may talk up a storm and shame men over stupid ideas like objectification but they seem to love male strippers and “objectifying” men.
There is that new movie Magic Mike that women, and feminists too, have been going crazy over and now I found this link:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/aug/17/tanya-gold-stripping
“I read in this book that between 33% and 50% of copulations among orangutans are rapes.”
read the same book. when the researchers used the word rape they didn’t intend on making any human judgments they were just using the classical definition of the word, that is, forced copulation. the females preferred the flanged males, like the one in the video. although the flanged males also raped the females, juvenile males did most of the raping.
as i recall, after observing males force themselves on females in the field some researchers deciding to see what was going on by putting a male and female in adjacent rooms with an opening between the rooms that the male couldn’t travel through but the female could. when the female wanted to mate she went through opening. when the male wanted to mate he tried to force his way through and got frustrated, sticking his erection through the opening and bellowing, hoping the female would come over. she would sit at the opposite end of her room and look at him. when the opening was widened so the male could get through he forced himself on the female.
despite thousands of observed cases of orangutan rape not a single injury has been identified.
and while sexual coercion appears common in many animals, rape is not common. humans, orangutans and porpoises are pretty much the only animals that rape.
It’s off topic, but to address some folks
writing crap here:
@whammer: I’ve got you figured out-you’re a trust fund baby who never worked a day in her life,and has a head full of useless and mostly wrong shit from a snug life as a professional student.
I suggest you go do something physical and build up some callus’,perhaps make a garden,it is unlikely you could injure yourself that way.
In any event,working outside would lighten your fat ass and reduce your bile level.You would be healthier.
@GBFM-dammit man,show respect to your mentors and write clearly,after all
imitation is the ultimate flattery.
Besides,all those random characters are incoherent,and unreadable.
It seems hypocritical to recommend reading fine writing whilst writing VERY poorly.
Do you think this video came before or after Julia Roberts married this Gorilla, Lyle Lovett?
Pic:
http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&biw=1093&bih=479&tbm=isch&tbnid=wwNhtYtchvauHM:&imgrefurl=http://www.therichest.org/entertainment/shortest-celebrity-marriages/&docid=3ozk4i_wTrxaIM&imgurl=http://www.therichest.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Julia-Roberts-and-Lyle-Lovett-one-year-divorce.jpg&w=400&h=300&ei=aHLxT9yHCsnG6wGiqtS5Bg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=794&vpy=173&dur=3073&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=165&ty=112&sig=106415814675400915208&page=1&tbnh=113&tbnw=151&start=0&ndsp=16&ved=1t:429,r:7,s:0,i:108
BTW, I once saw Ms. Roberts at the Supermarket and that is one seiously thin woman, she’d probably bend but not break…..thanks Yoga!
Mr. Lovett produced a great album in the late 1980′s that was my first exposure to anti-feminist ideas, listen to “She’s no lady she’s my wife”: “She hates my momma….she hates my daddy too…she tries to tell me how much she hates the things I do….”
lol. I remember seeing that incident on pbs. Surprised Howard Stern didn’t bring that up when she was on his show. He could have made a joke about her being scared of “Bababooey’s” ape-like resemblance.
I also recall a wildlife show that had a filmed incident with an attractive blonde woman hiding in some tall grass as she observed a troop of baboons. Several of the males found her and started pulling on her arms. The narrator said they weren’t attacking, they were trying to get her to join their troop!
Goes to show the “king kong” story had some basis in fact, lol.
This reminds me of the article below showing how women are aroused by watching bonobo sexual activity.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/25/magazine/25desire-t.html?pagewanted=all
in other news:
Baltimore is so messed up financially that they are considering selling advertising space on firetrucks. How does that one example apply to the MRM? Eventually, entitlement programs and financial support for feminist bs programs will have to step aside for essential ones. State and local governments could increase taxes turning more people against supporting the big corrupt and inefficient nanny-police city/state, and resulting in more people questioning non-essentials. The federal government could temporarily play games with the monetary supply (borrowing and forging fake monopoly paper money) speeding up the economic end-time when the US engine eventually meets the non-movable wall of financial debt reality.
I am wondering if anyone can make it to Baltimore by august first for a ‘stupid cuntwalk’.
Basically, a bunch of the fattest, nastiest-looking dudes possible dress in speedos, raggedy-ann wigs, and make-up to take to the streets and march, proudly ‘taking back’ the words ‘stupid cunt’.
I am beginning to realize that we have tried everything except that uniquely male gift… our sense of humor.
Wow, from Ms. Eat Pray Love herself. Loves to play with fire, of course knowing that someone else is going to be there to save her. She is lucky she didn’t get her face ripped off.
I am somewhat troubled with the use by Welmer of the word Rape and indeed one or two commentors have also done so. In a state of nature I would have said that the concept of Rape is simply meaningless.
Be that as it may, The Orang Tuan who nearly had Miss Roberts (but how did he propose removing her trousers?) is as restrained as any Orang could be. I have watched the second video quite few times and although the slow motion may give a false idea of the Orang’s gentlesness: this is what I observed:
Orang is sitting alone minding his own business.
Roberts invades his space and looks at Orang.
She uses her hands to cover her pussy.
She crouches down closer to Orang.
She moves her hand away from pussy then moves them back.
Orang, sensing her intentions (I say) stretches out his hand and grasps firmly but not roughly Roberts arm.
Roberts facilitates Orang by moving her position closer to him.
Orang changes the hand he is using to hold Roberts and prepares to mount.
… and then the keepers ruin everything.
Orang is naturally a bit put out; after all Roberts has successfully pricked teased him, though doubtless he blames the white-knights; and so he moves away.
All seems pretty familiar to me.
from feministing:
“I date women and trans men” is the definition of cissexism. It’s basing your frame for sexuality on the gender coercively assigned to a person by their doctor at birth, not on that person’s actual identity. In this case, we’re talking about folks who were assigned female. Of course, “women” means cis women – trans women totally drop off the map.”
Now, in the grey-pulpy minds of some feminists and other SOPPs (sexuality obsessed political paranoids), doctors are being coercive when they assign a male or female gender to an infant at birth.
Price: You mean, a red-headed mulatto took a Shine to Julia’s aroma and nearly gave her the Red Rocket?
Well, it’s way CHEAPER than a Cali Divorce Court…
EvilWhiteMaleEmpire:
‘What does that say about the ‘naturalness’ of feminism or of our own conservative ideas about sex?’
Good questions. I would also add to those: what does it say about female choices in relationships? We are all taught that women prefer strong, intelligent, confident males. But the reality is that sex, for women, only means being forcibly taken; and if the man is a thug, he’s also controllable through sex. IOW, women’s sexual preferences mean very little.
A common Shaming Tactic that women throw at men is that ‘you only care about looks’. But attractive female features are generally suited to a biological purpose. On the other hand, women care little or nothing about the biological suitability of a male mate. Feminist women are especially bad; because they deliberately choose biologically inferior males under the false belief that they are superior to men.
@Huck Finn July 2, 2012 at 10:38
from feministing:
“I date women and trans men” is the definition of cissexism. …
Of course, “women” means cis women – trans women totally drop off the map.”
…. doctors are being coercive when they assign a male or female gender to an infant at birth.”
Please, someone, tell me: is there a limit to the deep stupidity and madness displayed by the presently dominant sex in the human animal?
I said “animal” on purpose here because I no longer see an iota of humanity…
Buddy Guy. Wow. That was actually pretty solid.
But the reality is that sex, for women, only means being forcibly taken; and if the man is a thug, he’s also controllable through sex. IOW, women’s sexual preferences mean very little.
Read any Romance Novel and women are perpetually being RAVISHED. Rape fantasy is a common theme…with the alpha hero of course, not the court jester or village idiot…which would be shameful and demeaning. Ravish puts the romance in rape.
ravished – past participle, past tense of rav·ish (Verb)
Verb:
1.Seize and carry off (someone) by force.
2.(of a man) Force (a woman or girl) to have sexual intercourse against her will.
@MRA.
@GBFM
The poor grammar, and pretty much everything else in your posts represent you, and men in general, very poorly. Secondly, you’re boot strapping fundamentally unrelated facts in a way I would expect only from a feminist. There are plenty of men who report having become aroused at one point or another from seeing animals copulate. Indicates nothing. Same sex interaction. Very common in primates, even humans. What makes you feel so threatened with this? Is your sense of self so flimsy that someone elses sexual habits harms you? let them be lesbian, that is two less men who will be harmed and manipulated by those women. Think with the other head, is the loss of nokkie really all that tragic?
So, it turns out that women like scars, especially ones they’ve inflicted.
Turns out women have a similar physical response from watching men die, to the response seen before engaging in sexual activity. This is unique to humans. Now, this means either women are traumatized by sex, so we should free them from the burden and let them go be lesbian, OR that they gain sexual satisfaction watching men die, in which case we should concern ourselves with anything but their sexual wares.
A woman has no power over a man who is in absolute control of his sexual tendencies. For a man who does not want or need sex, there is NOTHING a woman possibly offer him, and no way she can harm him.
Being so sexualized, is relinquishing your power as a male.
@Rebel: “Please, someone, tell me: is there a limit to the deep stupidity and madness displayed by the presently dominant sex in the human animal?”
Dear Rebel,
I regret to inform you that, no, there is no limit to this deep stupidity and madness. They are unlikely to change any time soon, so you might want to consider developing a coping strategy, as many of us have done.
@ Cecil
Agreed. Giving up your sexual power does relinquish your power as a male and uniquely to humans, as a man (which I think is different than merely being male).
These men I see appear defeated and deflated. Caged chimps appear more in control of thier lives.
Here we have some chimps that bit a students hand near clean off this week and the excuse is the chimps were abused! Maybe we need VACA?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/30/researcher-mauled-by-chimpanzees-in-south-africa-identified-as-texas-student/
Don’t become a chump in a the cage our society has made for married men. Don’t marry or have children until the laws are changed.
Based on your thesis men are the ones that are the most harmed by forced arranged marriage, the MRM should oppose it as feminists already do (when the wife gets bored or he runs out of money).
@Keyster
If what your saying is true then rape is really a female problem and women should work on it all by their little selves.
I have never once seen a man encourage or condone forceable rape.
I vote Julia Roberts as the perfect representative for The Modern Western Woman.
Well i would take a beer with that Orangutan, hell i bet he loved what he saw,
now i think the feminist must march to the jungle to reclaim patriarchy in the animal kingdom too, well it is what we see dont we, Rapists are everywhere even in the jungles now.
Glad i am born with a dick
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What the fuck is this? Ebonics?
Tingles in the classroom
Take a look at this short excerpt from a teen magazine if you want to understand the dilemma of modern females:
http://imgur.com/xQlGX
MRA, you gotta say Elvis was on the money when he sang “Let Me Be Your Teddybear”!
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