Comment of the Week: Backlash Real and Deserved

by W.F. Price on June 29, 2012

At Doug’s request (I often rely on pointers from bright, mature commenters like Doug), I’m highlighting one of our most popular comments for this week, and probably this year so far. Written by “Young Guy,” it spells out the reasons young men are rejecting feminism. If only our mass media outlets would listen, they might have something valuable to say. But no, that isn’t their job — they prefer to instruct us as to what is and isn’t appropriate (mostly, they learned the rules in college, because they are such “out of the box,” “independent” and “cutting-edge” thinkers).

Thankfully, we have real people who are willing to chip in and let us know what’s actually happening on the ground.

Let’s have Young Guy speak for himself:

If feminists think men, especially young men, are angry, they don’t know the half of it. As a 26 year-old male, I have seen this society bend over backwards to accommodate women all the time.

The school curriculums are geared toward female success. Schools have countless women’s programs. Female teachers can be as hateful as they want towards male students without facing consequences. People cheer when girls succeed in school, but jeer when boys succeed in school. Even though females have every advantage in the education system, they somehow still have the audacity to complain. They take fluff majors but don’t realize anyone with less than half a brain could pass classes in the humanities and social sciences. Boys are dropping like flies in the education system, but no one cares. America’s education system has become a joke ever since feminist legislation was passed to make the education system more female-friendly.

Oh, and just look at the workplace. Sexual harassment laws give women freedom to dress slutty and still have the nerve to complain when men sneak a peek. If you are a man who has a female co-worker, you have to walk on eggshells everyday or else you can get fired because the twat in the other room got her panties in a bunch over something minor you said. You can be a man who has busted his ass everyday to succeed in your chosen profession, only to see it mean nothing because some woman who was nothing more than an affirmative action hire. If this isn’t bad enough, you get these useless women who are subpar, yet they still never shut up about breaking through the mythical glass-ceiling that they didn’t break and didn’t exist in the first place.

Also, I have really had enough of women dragging this country down with their dead-weight. Female soldiers, police officers, and firefighters are liabilities. No, all you ladies in these jobs, you aren’t heroes. I am going to go insane if I hear one more female soldier, police officer, or firefighter cry about not getting the respect she thinks she deserves. She doesn’t get respect because she doesn’t deserve respect. The military, law enforcement, and firefighters would be A LOT better off if women stopped lowering the bar to astronomical proportions.

I could go on and on about fathers being the butt of all jokes, male-only spaces being infiltrated by women, misandry in the entertainment industry, female-on-male violence and male suicide being treated like it either it doesn’t exist or it doesn’t matter, single mothers and all their horrors, and just all the complaining women do everyday about insignificant things, but I think most of you understand where I am coming from already.

Males raised in feminist households or single-mother households are sick and tired of all this nonsense because they have seen the hatefulness in feminism since they were born, and every day afterwards. These young men are extremely angry because it has been made clear to them they are considered irrelevant by most of society. Go ahead, keep throwing us young guys under the bus, because you are just making things worse. You have no idea how angry young men like me are after being thrown under the bus ever since we were born.

The backlash is not only real, but it is well-deserved. Apologies won’t erase the damage which has been done. Acting like what happened because of feminism either didn’t happen or was minor is a slap in the face. Saying women have suffered from feminism just as much as men is like spitting in the faces of all the men who have suffered ten lifetimes of pain because of feminism.

Women have no idea what they have done to us Generation Y men.

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Traveller June 29, 2012 at 03:22

Very good comment, yes. Already heard most of it, but it is important repeat for new entries in the MRM.

“only to see it mean nothing because some woman who was nothing more than an affirmative action hire.”

I think this phrase is not complete.

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Zorro June 29, 2012 at 03:26

I am heartened by young men like this, and I personally know more than a few (I’m 51 but I keep my ears open).

My generation is seething with pathetic manginas and the older generation are 98% a pack of wrinkled old farts like Bill Bennett. It is the younger guys who will take on the fembots with a Kraken-like fury.

I am particularly enraged at the education system. I’ve seen the graph showing the 50-year unbroken rise in female grades and the unbroken 50-year decline of boys. Both of these results are intentional. Hobble the male educationally, deprive him of the college degree and females will rule the workplace, and thus the economy.

First you make men economically irrelevant (already accomplished; 80% of consumer spending is done by HER). Once the male is economically irrelevant, the next step is to make him politically irrelevant. The countdown to that is another 20-30 years.

Once that is accomplished, you have a fully dysfunctional matriarchy, and western civilization spirals down the toilet.

The Caliphate is waiting in the bushes, laughing its ass off. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it now: Feminists are doing what jihadis only dream of accomplishing.

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njartist49 June 29, 2012 at 03:32

The fellow can also add – as of this month – that even female fetus, mere lumps of tissue, are more protected than the male lumps of tissue: the new laws against gender selection in abortion favor females.

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freebird June 29, 2012 at 03:54

Everyday the the media lies to us.
“The sky is green,the sky is green”=for the last 30 years.
Walk outside and check,yep,the sky is still blue.
It’s a lot easier to NOT watch the lying box.

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dannyfrom504 June 29, 2012 at 04:15

i get a kick out of telling women i’ve never been married, have no kids, and have no intention of getting married. most of the time they’ll laugh it off and tell me i’ll meet someone “eventually”. lol.

“no, you don’t get it. i don’t WANT to get married, it’s too big a risk.”

the look on their faces is priceless.

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Jacob Ian Stalk June 29, 2012 at 04:21

Very well put, Young Guy. It’s for young men like you that I’m guessing most of the older men who have committed themselves to taking a lifelong stand against feminism do this. Take heart – it’s clear to even the casual observer nowadays that feminism has its best days behind it. The astute observer knows that it has sown within itself the seeds of its own destruction and that the rot is beginning to show.

Men may not need to do anything but let it disintegrate on it’s own. Simply stand firm in God-given masculinity and let the womyn drown in the tarpit of their own degeneracy. For loved ones caught in their sisters wake, the best we can do is throw them the red pill lifeline…but they must reach out and take it on their own. If they choose not to, or are too far into the mire, then they are lost to us and we should let them go. Our young men (and untainted women) need us. Let the rest go. God’s will be done.

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Okrahead June 29, 2012 at 05:28

“Women have no idea what they have done to Generation Y men.”
Would that it were true. The leaders of the feminist movement knew EXACTLY what they were doing to men, and made no bones about it. The whole man and a bicycle quote sums up exactly what they intended to do to men. What they didn’t realize was what they would end up doing to future generations of women as a result.

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andybob June 29, 2012 at 05:34

Excellent choice for comment of the week. Mr Young Guy writes with strength and clarity of the feminism’s gravest error: alienating men like him. Women continue to deny the depth of ill-feeling towards them at their peril.

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Rapscallion June 29, 2012 at 06:21

This guy nails it. Feminism blinds women to the harsh realities that men face. women fear going out late at night? men are statistically more likely to face violence. feminist professors I’ve had have actually made a big deal about how they are nervous of interactions with the police because they are women, or claimed that it’s dangerous for them as women to ‘be perceived as being angry’ due to stereotypes of the ‘mad women’. try being a man perceived as angry or dangerous anywhere. You’re likely to get executed à la Robert Dziekanski.

feminist-influenced women only see the injustices or inequities that men face insofar as it negatively effects women. Men are ‘dropping like flies’ from the school systems? Women fret about not finding anyone suitable to marry their poor over-educated asses.

Unfortunately for the feminist brainwashers, their endless, insufferable projects of deconstruction (of empirical Truth, masculinity/femininity, capitalism, heterosexual normality, marriage, act etc) will eventually bring about their own ruin.

They will reap the fruits of their own wretched labour!

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Rod June 29, 2012 at 06:23

I hope to see more comments from Young Guy. And I hope his views represent a trend among younger men. I’m 58 myself. Most of the young men in the classes I teach run like roaches whenever gender-related topics arise. Of course, I have to choose my words very carefully lest I lose my job, but they guys in my classes ought to have more freedom to express themselves. I wish I had more students like Young Guy in my classes to take on the feminists.

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TLM June 29, 2012 at 06:24

Not sure the Gen Y boys have the stones or intestinal fortitude to get it done. Contrary to what I’ve read above, a majority of the young guys I see on a daily basis are noodle-armed , frumpy, little Facebook phone app fags that display no masculine qualities at all. They don’t walk, talk, or act like men in any discernible way. And I rarely see more than a handful at the gym on any occasion. I wish it wasn’t so. Raising daughters in this evil world I’m on the look out for strong Biblical men (Not your typical modern western church mangina) to marry them off to down the road, but it appears they are few & far between.

On a side note: Social media (Facebook, Twitter, etc) are some of the gayest things a straight male can take part in. If men were serious about being men again then they would abandon these chick sites en mass.

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Uncle Elmer June 29, 2012 at 06:40

It has culminated in the Descent of Man; I am saddened at the loss in testicles of today’s young men. Read about it in today’s “Slate” :

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/dear_prudence/2012/06/dear_prudie_my_co_worker_takes_the_office_newspaper_into_the_bathroom_.html

Q. Co-Worker Red-Flagging the Office Newspaper: I work in a small office, with a staff of maybe 10. I have worked here for about eight months as in a low-level production-oriented assistant position. A week ago, I walked by the 2nd floor bathroom and saw a co-worker of mine bringing out the office newspaper. She put the office newspaper back on the bench in the first floor. Personally, I am kind of disgusted by her sense of entitlement in thinking that she had a right to treat the office bathroom and the office newspaper as if they were hers. I also am at the bottom of the totem pole, the only male in my office, and am extremely embarrassed to mention anything. The co-worker wasn’t my boss, but she is a friend of my boss. How do I make it clear that this is an inappropriate thing to do in the office, not just because I have personal hygienic objections to it, but because I assume others would if they had any idea this happens?

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Geography Bee Finalist himself June 29, 2012 at 06:50

“Female teachers can be as hateful as they want towards male students without facing consequences.”

Don’t forget that most male teachers are basically manginas, and that female teachers in the US public school system tend to whine incessantly about “bad working conditions.”

To female teachers, having to work with anything that has a Y chromosome probably is considered a bad working condition, possibly even an all-female class with male animals forming part of the curriculum.

My own mother criticized her final employer (a private Roman Catholic-affiliated private school) for being supermajority-boys and for the salary practices (remember, my mother did not do a DETAILED analysis of why everyone at her employer was paid what they were paid) at said employer.

After all, in much of Africa:
teachers teach outside;
teachers teach children in multiple shifts;
schools lose faculty to AIDS and surviving teachers subsequently absorb the dead co-workers’ students into their classes;
or teachers die and kids have to stop going to school altogether.

Too bad school systems will not bring in faculty from Africa who can tell female faculty in this country to STFU about having to teach anything with a Y chromosome, among other minor “inconveniences.”

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codebuster June 29, 2012 at 06:56

I remember Young Guy’s comment when I first saw it pretty much straight after it was posted, thinking to myself “it’s going to become a runaway hit.” It’s the sort of comment that demands attention, encapsulating everything that is rotten about feminism.

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Anonymous Reader June 29, 2012 at 07:25

The thing about men such as Young Guy is he’s everywhere, and women by and large can’t see him. He’s the man in the next cube over who has no personal stuff in there with him – he knows better. He’s the man in the coffee shop one table over from the empowered wimmenz who are going on and on and on about “no good men left”. He’s the man at the bar, with his back to the table full of “ladies night out” sluts, ignoring their STD-stuffed carcasses. He’s the man who asks a woman out once to meet him, if she flakes he deletes her number and forgets her. He’s the man who ain’t paying for any “dates”, ever.

And when a woman is stuck by the side of the road with a flat tire? He’s the man who drives right by, often without even looking. He’s the man women are going to be bitching about more and more in the years to come.

And as Young Guy made quite clear, he’s the result of 40 years of feminism. He is what the 2nd stage feminist mothers created. Good luck shaming him into “manning up”, bitches.

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Thomas Tell-Truth June 29, 2012 at 07:41

There will be no “caliphate” laughing its ass off. The islamic world has already begun its journey into the world of maternalism.

In 50 years time, even less, Muslim men will be in chains to princess and a social apparatus that exists soley to support her needs.

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DG June 29, 2012 at 07:41

When young guy mentioned the male suicide rate, it occurred to me the the few times I’d seen that addressed by feminists when brought up, it was about mens inherent emotional defects, etc., or their own fault, etc.

In short, sexism and victim blaming. But tell a woman that if she projects “sexually available” through her dress and manner and has a history of changing out boyfriends, that people around her may take her at her “word”, and consider her as Sexually Liberated and Unlikely To-stay-married?

You’d think you started a nuclear war.

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Rebel June 29, 2012 at 07:54

Being very curious , I always try to see behind the curtain. I have been wondering the real reasons behind this mascarade. (for I see this thing called feminist as a mascarade).

My conclusion is that humans are being conditioned to accept full spectrum tyranny.

Once men will have dropped out of the system, there will be nothing in the way of those who want to be the masters of the world.
Please do not think I’m a conspiracy nut: other men in the past have attempted to rule the world.
But this time, great care is taken to knock off men’s will to fight.

Women will not resist the imposition of tyranny: they may not perceive it as such if they are told that it’s for their security.

In a nutshell, this is my belief.

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"The One" June 29, 2012 at 08:02

Probably the biggest change for men who’ve suffered Feminism for our whole lives is that we don’t automatically believe a woman when she claims victim status.

For example, two women have claimed they were “fingerbanged” in Tahrir Square in Cairo, Egypt. I don’t believe either one of them.

First Lara Logan claimed she was stripped naked and fingerbanged by a mob of men in Tahrir Square. Now another Feminist, Natasha Smith, claims she too was stripped naked and fingerbanged by a mob of men in Tahrir Square.

I’m like the Mentalist. I don’t believe either one of these women. ;^)

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walking in hell June 29, 2012 at 08:06

He is 26 years old. Twenty years ago when I was 26 years old many men thought like this and expressed it with similar eloquence. The fact that he is so young and thinking in this way, tells me that only more awareness and not real progress have been made in the last 20 years.

Feminism as a doctrine is long gone; but its institutions and laws: VAWA, family courts, jails and prisons are stronger than ever.

So we have a situation where institutions are stronger than ever, but awareness among young men is stronger than ever. Now what? I guess awareness aids avoidance which is a small victory in itself. But that does not help the men who are currently ensnared in the rotten institutions and laws that were excused into existence by the false doctrine of feminism.

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Jim June 29, 2012 at 08:07

All you have to do is look around and see how miserable women are in the workplace. Why in the hell would I volunteer to not only take it away, but put it on my shoulders? I’m not lowering myself down to that.

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Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM) June 29, 2012 at 08:26

Young Guy,

The secret is a renaissance rooted in the GREAT BOOKS FOR MEN. :)

Read and exalt in them, for they agree with you, and that is why the feminists were hired by the fiat bankers to deconstruct Homer’s Iliad, Homer’s Odyssey, Virgil’s Aenid, Genesis, Exodus, and Matthew.

These books tell of the true nature of women and men, both good and bad.

When feminists run publishing, they fund and promote butthextsers like Tucker Max rhymes with Goldman Sax zllzlzozlzoz.

When men ran publishing houses, we had Hemingway, Fitzgerald, and Twain.

Shakespeare and Virgil.

Homer and Dante.

:)

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Matt June 29, 2012 at 08:38

Rebel, you make a very compelling and chilling point. There are too many coincidences to think that this is all just random. The sapping of the male will to fight, starting with drugging boys because they are boys to keep them docile.

Making school so untenable for young men, by denying them male role models and elimination of male only clubs and sports. creating laws that harshly punish them for what would have been seen as harmless pranks 2 generations ago.

The anti bullying campaigns, now made necessary because the authority of the father is neutralized. 2 generations ago, bullies were dealt with locally and by fathers. Now, with fathers taken out of the picture in most cases, it has been made into a national crisis and you know what that means, more laws to punish men and more funding for “women’s” programs.

The forced integration of the Armed Forces, combat arms included, of women, take another male gathering place. When was the last time you heard the phrase “this MANS Army? I sure as hell didn’t but my father and grandfather did. I am 50 and I was in 30 years ago. I can only imagine it now. Can you imagine the whiny little princesses storming Normandy beach and taking the casualties that occurred? Imagine a 4 man tank crew, with one female on it, and she doesn’t want to help put on that track that was thrown. who picks up the slack? The other 3 and they won’t say a damn thing about it. But when award time comes, she is front and center as a Girlllllpower empowerment meme for the future.

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keyster June 29, 2012 at 08:45

And as Young Guy made quite clear, he’s the result of 40 years of feminism. He is what the 2nd stage feminist mothers created. Good luck shaming him into “manning up”, bitches.

He’s the voice of a silent majority.
Get a young man into a “safe” environment, where he feels free to speak his mind, and you’ll get varying degrees of anger towards women, some less articulate than others. Get him to open up a little bit and he’ll hit you with a flood of resentment and disgust towards “grrl power” and “bitches” and “sluts”.

It’s not just the tedious cultural enforcement of political correctness, “equality” and the victimhood narrative, but that young women openly flaunt their sexual power along with it. It’s a confusing message; she’s socially advantaged AND controls sexual/relationship access. A young man can’t fight the new “gender egalitarianism”, but he CAN ignore the age-old sexual empowerement women use to manipulate him.

Sexual Power makes women “more equal than” men. It’s a powerful weapon should men continue to subject themselves to it. Ignore her sexual power and watch her diminish, if not languish in her own “equality.

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Zorro June 29, 2012 at 08:58

@Thomas Tell-Truth:

No offense, dude, but I lived in Saudi Arabia for four years. Maternal takeover my fat Irish ass.

There is nothing about the West the Arab fears more than the thought that his wife will one day dictate to him. You don’t have to be an Arabist to know that, and you don’t have to be Jacques Cousteau to know the Indian Ocean is full of salt and fish.

Islam can be preposterously flexible in its means and appearance, but it is no less unyielding in its ends. The Taliban routinely take women and children hostage. When Bill Cosby told his TV children “I can take you out and make another one that looks just like you,” he was joking. The Taliban have exactly that mentality, but they’re not joking. Their sons mean something to them; but when the shit hits the fan, their wives and daughters are meaningless.

As Saudi Arabia goes, so goes the Islamic world.

The Caliphate is watching…and laughing.

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Anonymous age 70 June 29, 2012 at 09:03

@Zorro

I am not 51. I am 70. My generation actually did pretty well for itself as far as standing up to feminism. The percentage of man actually engaging in public activism, as opposed to chattering anonymously on the Web, was about the same as now. You don’t know that simply because the MSM refused to publicize the activists, just as the liars refused to cover the Thomas Ball story recently.

Also, almost always the young guys refuse to learn what was done in the past. Their attitude is, you old geezers accomplished nothing, therefore there is no point learning what you tried. So, shut up and let us do exactly the same thing while expecting different results. We are here now.

The problem is, men can’t successfully stand up to women politically. They could not 30 years ago, and they can’t now.

What is different is large numbers of men stopped waiting for men to organize, and one at a time rejected marriage, in some cases any serious contact with women. The marriage rate today is half of what it was at its peak and dropped by 5% between 2009 and 2010..

That is creating panic in many areas of society. That, along with “the Huns” at our gates is what will free us from the evil feminists and their sycophantic admirers.

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Okay, so men are being harmed by the educational system. Let us reach up and turn our brains to on. Men still make $100 for every $82 women make. So, how is that possible if men are being screwed by the educational systems?

I suggest it is hard to keep a good man down. And, the boys who are kicked in the nuts in schools run by dearies, still come out and manage to find a niche. Heating and Cooling; mechanics; work overseas; self-employed, whatever works while dearies can’t even eat without money from a man or from the government, or affirmative action priorities for jobs over much more qualified men..

And, increasingly realize that hanging around the modern woman is an act of self-destruction under current laws.

>> zllzlzozlzoz.

Can someone translate this for me? I have seen it in several places, and have no idea what it is supposed to men. It is unfair to dismiss those who use it as mentally ill, when I simply have no idea what it means. It may actually be something clever.

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Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM) June 29, 2012 at 09:05

One of the funny things of our era,

funded by the fiat bankers

is that if you work in the porn industry

you can stick your cock in women’s buttholes for profit

but if you tell a woman her hair looks nice in your job at a bank

you can be fired.

now the funny thing is that that bank processes credit cards from porn

and profits from porn

and so all the risk is placed on the nice man

and all the rewards go to the man who sticks his cock
in woman’s
bungholes

such is the way the berankifiers have architected it
to transfer profits from good, honest men
to the bankers

same thing with the army
once upon a time a man could focus on finghting the enemy on the front line
but today, the soldier must watch
his butthole too
as his fellow bankster-funded soldiers
creep up from behind.

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Matt June 29, 2012 at 09:15

anon 70, actually it was your generation that started this nonsense. You were a voice of sanity, and did what you could but the game was decided already. The WWII generation set the table by buying into that DR Spock childrearing nonsense, then later by ill thought out court decisions, made in the 60′s and 70′s. But it was the boomer generation who ratified it. They voted to keep these laws and policies in place and strengthen them. Biden, Bradley and others are all silent, boomer generation. Both mine, and your generations have a lot to answer for.

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meistergedanken June 29, 2012 at 09:18

“>> zllzlzozlzoz.

Can someone translate this for me? I have seen it in several places, and have no idea what it is supposed to mean. ”

It has the same meaning – or to be more precise, lack of meaning, as “Gender-Raunch”.

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Anonymous age 70 June 29, 2012 at 09:19

Okay, thanks, I will think about it and maybe I’ll get it. I am glad it actually means something.

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"The One" June 29, 2012 at 09:21

Zorro, You’re exaggerating quite a lot. I believe the Feminists in Saudi Arabia are twisting balls already. I see Feminism making huge inroads into Islamic society.

King Abdullah is already showing some weakness, unfortunately. The problem is that Feminists use false accusations with malicious intent. It’s a network of blackmail, which has only been empowered by the digital media.

Also, it’s not accurate to say that Islamic culture is indifferent to the well-being women and girls. In fact, being concerned for the well-being of girls requires men to stop being subservient to corrupt women.

Once the majority of western men were opposed to the idea of women talking down to them too. We should not nurture a false sense of security that we can rely on Islamic culture to save the future world from Feminism.

Islamic society needs the MRM to defend against Feminism just as the Western society needs the MRM to escape from Feminism.

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Raj June 29, 2012 at 09:25

TLM June 29, 2012 at 06:24
Not sure the Gen Y boys have the stones or intestinal fortitude to get it done. Contrary to what I’ve read above, a majority of the young guys I see on a daily basis are noodle-armed , frumpy, little Facebook phone app fags that display no masculine qualities at all. They don’t walk, talk, or act like men in any discernible way. And I rarely see more than a handful at the gym on any occasion. I wish it wasn’t so. Raising daughters in this evil world I’m on the look out for strong Biblical men (Not your typical modern western church mangina) to marry them off to down the road, but it appears they are few & far between.

On a side note: Social media (Facebook, Twitter, etc) are some of the gayest things a straight male can take part in. If men were serious about being men again then they would abandon these chick sites en mass.

Yeah, I don’t see any signs of “young male rebellion”. I think its more of a wishful thinking.

Young men have been feminised beyond hope due absence of good male role models. Cannot say no to women, no backbone. Compliant.

No, trying to be alpha by getting tattoos, buying a big truck, playing with guns, talking tough, “acting” confident, body building etc do not compensate but are a sign of the same feminising.

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Anonymous age 70 June 29, 2012 at 09:26

>>You were a voice of sanity, and did what you could but the game was decided already.

Makes sense to me. The only thing is I don’t see much change today, except for those who are bailing on marriage and women. Which is significant.

History shows that it is inevitable when a society becomes prosperous, that women shall gain the right to vote.

And, once women get the right to vote, it is inevitable they will eventually dominate the political system.

And, once women dominate the political system, their incessant and insane demands for more benefits at the expense of men, and more protections against anything bad, including their own bad mistakes (e.g. – adulterous women getting the same benefits as good women) destroys the society.

Check! Check! And, check!

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Anonymous age 70 June 29, 2012 at 09:28

I suggest that many grandparents are forced to use Facebook, because it’s the only way they can now what their grandkids are doing. Just saying.

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evilwhitemalempire June 29, 2012 at 09:30

On a side note: Social media (Facebook, Twitter, etc) are some of the gayest things a straight male can take part in.
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not just gay, they’re back door big brotherism

an unpleasant glimpse into the future

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"The One" June 29, 2012 at 09:32

Raj, men of The Patriarchy have to build our own social media services because we cannot allow ourselves to be out-organized and out-maneuvered, nor can we subject ourselves to Feminized authority.

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Zorro June 29, 2012 at 09:32

@Anon-70:

“Men still make $100 for every $82 women make. So, how is that possible if men are being screwed by the educational systems?”

Are you seriously suggesting boys are NOT being screwed by the education system???!!!

Again: ???!!!

You are usually one of the more logical and informed commenters here, so until I get clarification, I’m going to assume you got a winning scratch ticket and you’re hitting it early today.

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Anonymous age 70 June 29, 2012 at 09:41

>>Contrary to what I’ve read above, a majority of the young guys I see on a daily basis are noodle-armed , frumpy, little Facebook phone app fags that display no masculine qualities at all. They don’t walk, talk, or act like men in any discernible way. And I rarely see more than a handful at the gym on any occasion. I wish it wasn’t so. Raising daughters in this evil world I’m on the look out for strong Biblical men (Not your typical modern western church mangina) to marry them off to down the road, but it appears they are few & far between.

That does sound like a problem for several reasons. Not the least of which is they have to accept the men who suit you, and too often women don’t want strong Biblical men.

Over the years, I have had women ask me where they can go to find what men can find in Mexico; Philippines; or Thailand. I have only ever come up with two answers.

1. Coldfoot, Alaska. When I was there, the 55 year old woman had young men lined up outside her door when she came out. Also, the relatively obese 30 something. Very high ratio of men to women, and these guys are drivers on the haul road. A man must be a man to work there.

2. Midwestern farmers, many are college educated today. They are not limp wristed wimps as city dudes too often are. Long days; hard work eliminates the wimps very fast.

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evilwhitemalempire June 29, 2012 at 09:42

Don’t forget that most male teachers are basically manginas, and that female teachers in the US public school system tend to whine incessantly about “bad working conditions.”

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teachers, social workers, lawyers make up the bulk of [on the ground] feminism

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meistergedanken June 29, 2012 at 09:44

“And, once women dominate the political system, their incessant and insane demands for more benefits at the expense of men, and more protections against anything bad, including their own bad mistakes (e.g. – adulterous women getting the same benefits as good women) destroys the society.

Check! Check! And, check!”

It’s exactly like the Matrix. Said another way – there is no perfectly sustainable system, an instability will create a positive feedback loop. Therefore a complete breakdown – and hopefully a reset – is inevitable.
What can we conclude from this? That society, like many other things in Nature, is cyclical? That the notion of “progress” is a human concocted delusion – or at least a temporary condtion/local maxima on the graph of history? Large questions, to be delved into by men possessing more time and wisdom than I.

However, if there is to be a reset, it would behoove us to think about what would be necessary to prepare for it to increase our chance of survival, and not end up like some sabretooth tiger remains in the La Brea tar pits.

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Anonymous age 70 June 29, 2012 at 09:45

@Zorro

Take a deep breath and think for a minute. I asked a valid question. If boys are being destroyed by the educational system, how can they still out earn the pampered, spoiled dearies?

Also, I think I presented it as a question, not an answer. If you can supply a valid answer, please do so.

My suggestion was it is hard to keep a good man down, even being kicked in the nuts daily through 13 years of school. That may be wrong. If you have a different viewpoint. please share it with me.

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Dalrock June 29, 2012 at 09:48

zllzlzozlzoz is a corruption of lol (laugh out loud). Great Books for Men is a loveable troll, with his signature lines about buthex and Ben Bernake’s fiat money.

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Anonymous age 70 June 29, 2012 at 09:49

>>What can we conclude from this? That society, like many other things in Nature, is cyclical?

Yes, that is my view of history. A cycle just like the annual cycle of spring; summer; fall, and winter.

>>However, if there is to be a reset, it would behoove us to think about what would be necessary to prepare for it to increase our chance of survival, and not end up like some sabretooth tiger remains in the La Brea tar pits.

Look at what happened when the Roman Empire collapsed for the same reasons, and you will know what to prepare for.

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Dalrock June 29, 2012 at 09:52

As for men still making 20% more than women, I saw a reference to a paper the other day that found that men who were married earned 20% more than men with the same age, skills, and education who were single. The authors were of the misunderstanding that this represented some magic benefit to family men, instead of understanding that men who have a family to support are willing to work harder than they would otherwise work. Working harder isn’t a benefit…

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evilwhitemalempire June 29, 2012 at 09:52

zllzlzozlzoz.

Can someone translate this for me? I have seen it in several places, and have no idea what it is supposed to mean. ”

———————-
it’s gunganeese
whenever a gungan in star wars episode 1 makes a gurgling sound flapping his gums about

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Dalrock June 29, 2012 at 09:55

Here is the quote from the 2010 State of Our Unions:

Probably because of marital social norms that encourage healthy, productive behavior, men tend to become more economically productive after marriage. They earn between 10 and 20 percent more than do single men with similar education and job histories.

Looks like I recalled it incorrectly, it is 10 to 20 percent. They reference the source study in the notes for anyone who wants to look it up.

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Anonymous age 70 June 29, 2012 at 09:55

@Dalrock Thanks for the lol explanation.

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A tale on how hard it is to keep a good man down. Thirty years ago, a very wise fellow worker told me a true story. He was told his daughter was more or less a slow learner. Upon investigating, he learned the problem was she was a very poor reader. He asked her about phonics. She had never heard of it.

So, he went to talk to the teacher, who haughtily informed him phonics was obsolete. Ahem, understanding the basis for reading is obsolete?

He knew his older son could read well, so he asked him about it. His son told him the boys talked at recess, and figured out that letters had meanings connected to sounds, and they helped each other learn those sounds, and thus they taught themselves phonics and learned to read very well.

Bob is convinced that eliminating phonics was a deliberate maneuver to make boys fail, since girls are much better at pattern recognition. So, they assumed boys would fail and girls would perform at a higher level.

Instead, little boys re-invented phonics and kept right on marching.

But, let me note those boys had fathers in the house. Do not always judge fathered boys by the large number of fatherless boys.

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keyster June 29, 2012 at 09:56

Also, almost always the young guys refuse to learn what was done in the past. Their attitude is, you old geezers accomplished nothing, therefore there is no point learning what you tried. So, shut up and let us do exactly the same thing while expecting different results. We are here now.

The broad uncensored reach of the internet (new media) is a game changer. You had a biased MSM with iron fisted control of distribution and broacasting powers.

The problem is, men can’t successfully stand up to women politically. They could not 30 years ago, and they can’t now.

That is very true. And it will never happen.
The only political action a man or men as a group can take is to support the LEAST feminist party or candidate. The divide between Republicans and Democrats with regard to “women’s rights” has never been more apparent than it is today. The days of white-knight SoCons pandering to women as a group is gone – – and it might end up costing them in November.

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Rebel June 29, 2012 at 09:56

@Zorro:
“Are you seriously suggesting boys are NOT being screwed by the education system???!!!”

This is debatable. It depends on from which angle you look at it.

There is a way to define that girls are being screwed: they are the ones who will have to carry the whole weight of society on their shoulders.

Boys, as Anon70 said, will always manage on their own. And they don’t have that same desire to sire children the way women do.

As proof of this, look at the happiness gap that is emerging between men and women.

It used to be the other way around.

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dorsey47 June 29, 2012 at 09:58

Dalrock
“men who have a family to support are willing to work harder than they would otherwise work.”

Or, it could be, men wait until they are able to provide to marry.
And, women have done a good job of selecting the providers.

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meistergedanken June 29, 2012 at 09:59

“Look at what happened when the Roman Empire collapsed for the same reasons, and you will know what to prepare for.”

Exactly. And this is where the practical advice comes in for those having trouble connecting the dots. First, there will be barbarians accompanying a breakdown of social order. This means you will be
responsible for protecting yourself and your loved ones. Act accordingly. Second, this means that the nature of commerce will change radically – it will necessarily become more local, or at least regional. Some items may be unobtainable at any price. And it means that credit, lending and all that banking stuff will be unreliable. Any debts that can’t be repaid, won’t be. Any debts or obligations that institutions can get away with cancelling will be cancelled. Think Social Security, etc. Act accordingly. Think about where your food and medicine will come from. Think about what you will purchase it with. Will it be with a credit card? I doubt it. Will it be with a green-backed “Federal Reserve Note”? Uh….

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evilwhitemalempire June 29, 2012 at 10:01

The fact that he is so young and thinking in this way, tells me that only more awareness and not real progress have been made in the last 20 years.
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red pilling young men IS progress

much of what has happened over the last 30+ years has happened because it was under the radar

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Anonymous age 70 June 29, 2012 at 10:06

@meistergedanken
@evilwhitemalempire

Two absolutely great postings.

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Zorro June 29, 2012 at 10:11

@Anon-70: I’m at work so I can’t get into the nitty gritty.

Here’s the Romper Room analysis:

Whatever groups of men who make up the earners of your $X male to $Y female earning ratio (taken when? where? how?), one thing is certain…the vast bulk of those monies are earned by men in the older age bracket, as they (1) are the biggest earners due to experience and skill sets, and (b) are thus the furthest from their education years and thence were subjected less to the impact of a feminized school system. The lag in years there would be about 40.

Have you seen the US Dept of Education graph showing the 50-year (60?) span showing a consistent decline in boys performance and consistent rise in girls performance? Did it ever reach your breakfast table that colleges admit principally based on grades and SAT? Do you know what Ritalin tastes like?

I find it retarded that you try to connect nationwide male earnings in relation to female as even connected to the suggestion that boys are being scammed in school.

You can’t keep a good man down? Fuck, man, you sound like Bill Bennett! Maybe you should go back to your cantina and reminisce about the pet triceratops you had as a kid. Apparently you are out of the loop.

If nothing changes, the last American male to graduate with a college degree will be in the year 2058. No more male lawyers, judges, doctors, or Senators, Congressmen, etc.

Yeah, bucko, I’d say there is a serious problem with the Ed system, and the boys are getting reamed.

Please, if you’re going to rebut, have an argument based on something more than the script to Captains Courageous. If I want to eat ice cream and wear a paper hat, I’ll go visit Suzy on her birthday. This is the grownups table here.

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Anonymous age 70 June 29, 2012 at 10:14

>>Boys, as Anon70 said, will always manage on their own.

But, only once they get away from the nut kicking, which I suspect is the real reason men don’t go to college.

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Anonymous age 70 June 29, 2012 at 10:16

@Zorro

Your posting might have been a suitable answer, if you had managed to respond as an adult instead of childish name calling and personal insults.

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Anonymous age 70 June 29, 2012 at 10:20

Let me add that your outburst when you were explicitly invited to explain to me, is exactly what disabled the men’s movement over the last 45 years. And, is also why I know nothing will change in the next 45 years.

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"The One" June 29, 2012 at 10:40

I lacked the will to go to college. In retrospect, I guess I don’t have to wonder why my interest in academia never really took hold.

I’m glad I didn’t get indoctrinated by college. I feel like a dodged the victimology bus full of aggrieved wymyn and aggrieved minorities trying to run my “privileged” white male self over.

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Tom936 June 29, 2012 at 10:44

>> zllzlzozlzoz.

Can someone translate this for me? I have seen it in several places, and have no idea what it is supposed to men. It is unfair to dismiss those who use it as mentally ill, when I simply have no idea what it means. It may actually be something clever.

It’s something that GBFM has adopted as a sort of signature verbal tic. One of many.

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slwerner June 29, 2012 at 10:52

meistergedanken – ”Can someone translate this for me? I have seen it in several places, and have no idea what it is supposed to mean. ”
It has the same meaning – or to be more precise, lack of meaning, as “Gender-Raunch”.”

It is the very awkward construct of one man (Scot in Boston, a.k.a. American, proffessor (sic), elvis, and a few other handles), based on a mashing together of “Gender-feminism” and “Raunch culture” (which is also largely a derivative of feminism).

He has spent years now tossing it out like spam on various forums, hoping it will take on a life of it own (like “the Red Pill”, “Game”, and other successful metaphors we all use now).

Sadly, it fails largely due to the need to explain it over and over again, because, on it’s face, it seems to lack meaning.

Scot, for all his good intentions, isn’t particularly articulate nor adept at making cogent arguments; so, let me try to explain what he means:
We’re all pretty familiar with raunchy sex-positive feminists like Jessica (Embrace Your Inner Slut) Valenti. It’s no secret that they Raunch Culture Feminists push promiscuity and the hook-up culture to young women as ultimately “empowering” to them.

Yet, Jessica Valenti in her decidedly anti-male Gender-Feminist personna has also argued for radical reforms to rape laws that would require not that a man would need to be proven guilty if charged with rape, but rather that he would be deemed automatically guilty, and would have to prove his innocence by proving (beyond all doubt) that he gained proper, sober, and documented consent prior to engaging in sex [seriously, I’m not joking about this, despite how it must sound to rational and logical thinking people such as the readers here]

This apparent disconnect between sex-posi/sex-pushy Valenti and “all sex is rape unless it can be proven otherwise” Valenti, really boils down to feminism view that sex is good – so long as it happens on a woman’s terms and (more importantly) to her complete satisfaction. She wants young women hook-up and f*ck like rabbits; but, if afterwards they should have any regrets about it, to be able to have the offending sex-partner sacrificed via a re-imagining of the previously consensual sex as having actually been rape.

This is what I believe Scot (American) means by “Gender-Raunch”. It is one of two “bogeymen” he has repeatedly posited as (near) universal excuses for those women who do make false rape allegations, and now he’s expanded to include other societal ills brought about by women having the freedoms to chose to do bad things. Scot doesn’t like the fact that woman (as individuals) are often blamed for the very misdeeds they willing chose to engage in. Thus, he has been trying to get the entirety of the Manosphere to buy-off on his alternate scape-goats – this nebulous force of “Gender-raunch” which posses young women’s minds (think about the girls in Salem Mass who claimed to have been bewitched – it would work something like that) and the comparable mind-bending forces of American law enforcement, which he suggests seduces and persuades woman to commit the acts/crimes they do (he tries to lend credibility to this by suggesting a financial motivation to get otherwise innocent and good women to do bad things).

His real goal, like any other White-Knight is to deflect culpability off of individual women, and onto these scapegoats.

Rauch-Culture, Gender-feminism, and law enforcement are hardly innocent players in women’s bad acts and the attendant harms which result. But, he seeks to deny that women have individual moral agency, to infantilize them as the naive-but-mislead innocents that his SocCon Churchian ilk hold badly behaved women to be, so as to absolve them of their individual crimes and bas acts.

You’ll notice that he never actually criticizes any individual women (he doesn’t even blame the woman who accused him of raping her – seriously, he came right out and said so on The False Rape Society), but always throws out one of his preferred bogeymen as the root cause of any issue brought up for discussion. He’d like you all to believe that women are innately good, and are being corrupted by these mind-controlling external agents, rather than their own selfish motivations.

Anyway, that’s my explanation for what “Gender-raunch” is really all about. It’s just my opinion.

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Tom936 June 29, 2012 at 10:57

Zorro June 29, 2012 at 09:32
@Anon-70:

Men still make $100 for every $82 women make. So, how is that possible if men are being screwed by the educational systems?

Are you seriously suggesting boys are NOT being screwed by the education system???!!!

I must agree with Zorro. To me it sounds more like men are as usual doing the hard jobs and the lousy and dangerous jobs. And for the moment that still outweighs educational screwing and affirmative action.

And add a few top-of-the-pyramid guys to throw the average off. A few guys at the top are not getting screwed over (much) but what’s that to you and me and the rest of the 99%?

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Eric June 29, 2012 at 10:59

Zorro:
The feminist west is at war with Islam for the same reason feminists over here pass misandryist laws. They hate men and all male-dominated institutions. Just like they can’t tolerate any American man who doesn’t bow to feminism, they can’t tolerate other nations which do.

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Eric June 29, 2012 at 11:01

Dalrock:
‘Men tend to become more economically productive after marriage.’

Even more so after the inevitable divorce, when the courts order alimony and child-support, sometimes even in excess of their incomes.

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Tom936 June 29, 2012 at 11:19

Zorro June 29, 2012 at 10:11
@Anon-70: I m at work so I can t get into the nitty gritty.

Here s the Romper Room analysis:

Whatever groups of men who make up the earners of your $X male to $Y female earning ratio (taken when? where? how?),

I’d like to know that too. Last I looked, when you controlled for a few common-sense factors like choice of career and hours worked, women outearned men by a good margin. Something like 20%.

one thing is certain the vast bulk of those monies are earned by men in the older age bracket, as they (1) are the biggest earners due to experience and skill sets, and (b) are thus the furthest from their education years and thence were subjected less to the impact of a feminized school system. The lag in years there would be about 40.

That’s true too.

You can t keep a good man down? Fuck, man, you sound like Bill Bennett! Maybe you should go back to your cantina and reminisce about the pet triceratops you had as a kid. Apparently you are out of the loop.

We’re all on the same side here. At least you, me, and Anon-70 are. There’s no need to lower the tone of the discussion.

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meistergedanken June 29, 2012 at 11:19

“‘Men tend to become more economically productive after marriage.’

Even more so after the inevitable divorce, when the courts order alimony and child-support, sometimes even in excess of their incomes.”

…unless of course they become chemically dependent to deal with the ensuing pain and injustice, or commit suicide. But other than THAT, we’re all good.

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Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM) June 29, 2012 at 11:23

Anonymous age 70 June 29, 2012 at 09:55 writes,
“A tale on how hard it is to keep a good man down. ”

So anon age 70, how hard was it to keep the 25,000,000 men who were aborted since 1969 down?

I’ll forgive you Anonymous age 70, for your generation can’t conceive of how the feminist movement rewards secretive tapers of butthext without the girlsths conthent with hundreds of thousands of fiat dollars. But, on the other hand Anonymous age 70, how come you and William Bennet and Kay Hymowitz don’t care that good men’s future wives are being sodomized and desouled? Do they not talk about these things at the old-folks home?

“Let the dead bury the dead, and come follow me.”

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Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM) June 29, 2012 at 11:33

One of the most hilarious things
is how the
neocons wring their hands
and lament the passage of the health care
and massive growth of goverment
while they never complain
about the war on boys
about the foreign wars on foreign shores
where our best are sent to die
while tucker max rhymes with goldman sax
is rewarded by feminists with hundreds of thousands of dollars
for sodomizing women
and taping it secretly
without their conthent
the neocons say, “i am shocked! shocked! that healthcare passed as a new tax!”
while an even greater tax
the inflation tax
persecutes the common ban
while bailing out massive corporations
and the governments of foreign nations
in many ways the neoconths are worse
than the communist feminists
for at least the communist feminists
are honest
while the neoconths
pretend
that they do not
know

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Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM) June 29, 2012 at 11:38

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Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM) June 29, 2012 at 11:40

one of the most hilarious things
is that on a men’s issues site
there are people voting
against
HOMER, VIRGIL, DANTE and the BIBLE
this is why the men’s movement is losing
and will continue
to lose
as the men’s movement
is dishonoring its true fathers
and if the men do not honor their fathers
how can they expect
the world
to honor them?

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TiredGuy June 29, 2012 at 11:46

@The One
“I lacked the will to go to college. In retrospect, I guess I don’t have to wonder why my interest in academia never really took hold.

I’m glad I didn’t get indoctrinated by college. I feel like a dodged the victimology bus full of aggrieved wymyn and aggrieved minorities trying to run my “privileged” white male self over.”

I fully understand this sentiment. There is quite a deep divide between the older men in my classes and all the women. Most of the men are like myself, sucessful in our own right, and only taking a university course to further expand our options. I’m a farmer by trade, studying business so that I can build up my business acumen.

As for the women, who have never had to put in an honest days work in their life – anytime I bring up ‘real world’ experiences, they get snarky. However, its not all bad.

I was talking one day in class about how workers who don’t show up on time, take many sick days off, etc. truly cost a business (trust me, it’s more than the average person thinks it is) and every man, young and old, were nodding in agreement. A young woman, barely out of training bras piped up about how its sexist it was to only pay women for the work they do (which is not much), so I shot back – “Number of employees I have: 10, number of employees you have: 0. Sit down and be quiet.”

Getting booted from the classroom never felt so satisfying.

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Anonymous June 29, 2012 at 11:48

Welcome to the Backlash!!!

Come on in, the water is fine!

Another new phenom in the MRM is that of the “limp dick”. Mostly Zeta or MGTOW males, these guys take great pleasure in rejecting and rebuking the Americunts. Of course this moniker “limp-dick” was handed out like Halloween candy by the skanks themselves, to any male who rejected them, so it is to be worn like a badge of honor by MRA’s.

Example of limp dicks in action.
Skank: Sits next to you at bar and hopes you will pay for her alcoholism.
Limp-dick: Ignores her completely, or moves slowly down the bar.
Skank: Now desperate for limp-dick’s attention proceeeds to chase. Skank can’t help itself, as it tries every trick in the book to badger, browbeat and cajole the male into acknowledging its self proffesed sex appeal. Finally annoyed, simply wishing to be unmolested by disgusting bar whores, the limp-dick responds:
“No you aren’t sexy at all, skank. Your nasty tats, body piercings and STD’s have ensured this fact. You are in fact, fat, ugly, shrill, snotty and slutty. Get lost, creep!”
Skank: Jaw bounces up and down while fat rolls jiggle. No words come out though, yet. It can’t get it’s insect mind around the fact that it was just rejected. Inevitably gay slurs and the title of “Limp-Dick!” vomit out of it’s cock sucker, wafting over to you on its cum-breath.

After engaging for a while, in the flat out rejection of nasty Americunt whores (pretty much every American womyn, now) it becomes sort of addictive. The feeble insults no longer wound, but cause celebration, if not outright belly guffaws. Shaming language is like a drug for the limp-dick. It is his motivation to continue to FTSU.

Sorry, bitch. Your stranglehold on the sexual marketplace is OVER.

REJECTED BIATCH!!!

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Peter South June 29, 2012 at 11:49

That was a great comment I remember it well.

Hope it’s true.

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Darryl X June 29, 2012 at 12:04

Anonymous -

You forgot the part where she makes false allegations against you for sexual assault or rape or looking at her cross-eyed or whatever (pick an offense) and then you go to jail and while you’re there she has a child with another man and claims you are the father and you pay child support for the rest of your life for a child that isn’t yours. Did I miss anything?

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Omnipitron June 29, 2012 at 12:41

“As for men still making 20% more than women, I saw a reference to a paper the other day that found that men who were married earned 20% more than men with the same age, skills, and education who were single. The authors were of the misunderstanding that this represented some magic benefit to family men, instead of understanding that men who have a family to support are willing to work harder than they would otherwise work. Working harder isn’t a benefit…”

Dalrock is on point with this statement, too many people are looking at this from the wrong angle. Men’s needs are typically low maintenance compared to that of women and typically doesn’t need too much effort to simply meet them. Ambiton does make a man more attractive to a woman, how many men would buy expensive houses and such if they lived on their own with no family plans on the horizon?

“I was talking one day in class about how workers who don’t show up on time, take many sick days off, etc. truly cost a business (trust me, it’s more than the average person thinks it is) and every man, young and old, were nodding in agreement. A young woman, barely out of training bras piped up about how its sexist it was to only pay women for the work they do (which is not much), so I shot back – “Number of employees I have: 10, number of employees you have: 0. Sit down and be quiet.””

I’ve always loved that foolish argument some make about the ‘wage gap.’ It’s basic common sense yet some have no use for it. You have a man who works for 8 hours a day creating value in the company, thus he get’s paid for it. In order to pay a woman who has kids and other responsibilities the very same wage for less work, this will have to come out of the value other men are creating.

This is what so many women and feminists don’t comprehend, the lifestyles and assistance they receive in society or companies aren’t free and must be paid for in some fashion. There is no such thing as something for nothing, and any women complaining about it doesn’t understand the fallacy of which they ask.

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Rebel June 29, 2012 at 12:48

@Darryl X:

I agree with you. Insulting a bitch is a major dismeanor that will put you behind bars (and this was no pun..)

For someone of a lesser ego, a good line would be to pretend one is gay.

A friend of mine has a good trick that he uses in such cases: he speaks a non- existent “foreign” language that sounds like a cross between Chinese and German and thus pretends he does not speak the “local” language. You will need some practice at that: if insults are thrown your way, you still have to pretend you don’t understand.

Another little trick? Buy an inexpensive wedding ring and tell that your wife is an extremely jealous and vicious woman that will hunt down and kill any woman who talks to her husband.

Avoid problems with skanks by ignoring them as much as possible.

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Cynical Youth June 29, 2012 at 12:50

@ TLM:
“Not sure the Gen Y boys have the stones or intestinal fortitude to get it done. Contrary to what I’ve read above, a majority of the young guys I see on a daily basis are noodle-armed , frumpy, little Facebook phone app fags that display no masculine qualities at all.”

The system will consume itself because the system cannot cut back on its own excesses in the face of decreasing tax revenue. My generation really doesn’t have to DO anything for the system to collaspe in on itself other than not get ourselves caught in its teeth. Our significance isn’t so much our efforts in so much as what we represent; a dying civilization which shot itself in the foot.

@Rebel:
I wonder how much of this abuse of us commoner men truly is rooted in some sort of conscious plan by some of the elites as opposed to being driven in part by base irrational animalistic instincts? I don’t dispute their maliciousness, threat level, or even their desire for control, just how much of it is actually well thought out and reasoned.

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Charles Martel June 29, 2012 at 13:09

Ecclesiastes
Your point is too important for careless and thoughtless malapropisms.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Grammar and syntax errors are not malapropisms.

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Eric June 29, 2012 at 13:11

Price:
Lzlzlzloll Matrix-gender-raunch- 1.1.1.o.o.o.a.

Is your spam filter down or something?

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Anonymous June 29, 2012 at 13:11

Daryl X,

You covered all the bases, but the winds have changed out there in public opinion land. Gone now, are the days of “What are you gonna do about it boy? You can’t fight the mighty V!!!” gloom and dooming.

The naysayers have had their day and still the MRM grows exponentially. Its overdue message cannot be stopped, no matter what illegitimate police thugs and corrupt judges may do to us. Critical mass among men has been achieved and we aren’t backing down anymore.

We simply aren’t gonna take this shit lying down any longer!!!

Men and our legitimate grievances are being taken far more seriously by everyone except the MSM and da white house, than was true even six months ago. It is not hopeless, friend. If you believe that, then you are lost already.

In a public place with plenty of witnesses and video cameras, you can rest assured that any of her illigitimate attempts at false rape screeching or accusations will be called into question and if you are a smart limp dick like me, you always have a wingman or at least a camera of your own there, to video tape everything, should a snarky skank happen to impede on your day in an attempt at drama. In spite of what you may have heard, video recording skanks works! I am living proof of this. I have not been arrested yet, for telling a whore to get lost and video evidence has many times been my sole ally in helping ed me stay of of the klink.

In spite of the mass of unconstitutional and illegal legislation against males, you can still tell her to fuck off and not be afraid to do so. This is your inalienable right! Exercise it or surrender it…

MRA’s have more and more power every day and more and more pissed off men are coming to each other’s aid now, in times of skank induced, public police dramas. I’ve witnessed this many times. Believe it or not, even thuggish cops will concede to a crowd of pissed off men who are all pointing their fingers at the slut(s) and calling her (them) to account. It’s true I’ve never gotten one arrested. That is still a tough task, but that day is coming sooner or later, now.

Organizations like S.A.V.E. and F.R.S. are only one phone call/mouse click away. They are making great progress on the front lines of legislation and yes thanks to them, ridiculous female supremacist VAWA type tyranny is being shredded in the court of public opinion.
Female violence by police proxy is also on its way out, but only if we MRA’s are willing to face that possibility head on. I am not afraid of being jailed for speaking out. I am not alone, either.

Hold out hope, otherwise you have already lost.

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Huck Finn June 29, 2012 at 13:19

Sad to read about the experiences of Young Guy yet also inspiring to read what he wrote about regarding the young men’s anti-feminist attitudes. I seem to be encountering young men who range from being the pro-feminist ball-less boy-wonder types to good young men self-aware of the social bs of feminism and modern society. I’ve had some positive interactions with young men who became really energized to hear more about the MRM after I mentioned it. I always try to get their ok to send them an email with a few links to MRA sites.

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Eric June 29, 2012 at 13:22

Omnipitron:
The other side of that is that there is an offset involved in a relationship. The ‘liberated female’ doesn’t believe she’s obligated to contribute anything to a relationship—the man’s contribution ends up being a net loss for him.

Women in our culture do not value men, or male contributions. They see us all expendable and themselves as entitled. Any relationship with a feminised woman is doomed to failure, because of their attitudes.

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Eric June 29, 2012 at 14:06

Darryl X & Rebel:
Another good one I’ve used is politely saying, ‘Thanks. But I don’t date American women.’

Watch their jaws drop on that one. They can’t even make a false accusation out of it.

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Charles Martel June 29, 2012 at 14:07

Anonymous age 70
Look at what happened when the Roman Empire collapsed for the same reasons, and you will know what to prepare for.

There’s lots of loose talk about economic collapse and the end of feminism but I’m pretty sure the cure would be far worse than the disease.

Read the words of St. Jerome and think about whether this is what you really want:

“Nations innumerable and most savage have invaded all Gaul……….Oh wretched Empire! Mayence [Mainz, Germany], formerly so noble a city, has been taken and ruined, and in the church many thousands of men have been massacred. Worms [Germany] has been destroyed after a long siege. Rheims, that powerful city, Amiens, Arras, Speyer [Germany], Strasburg, – all have seen their citizens led away captive into Germany. Aquitaine and the provinces of Lyons and Narbonne, all save a few towns, have been depopulated; and these the sword threatens without, while hunger ravages within……….I cannot speak without tears of Toulouse, which the merits of the holy Bishop Exuperius have prevailed so far to save from destruction……….I will keep silence concerning the rest, lest I seem to despair of the mercy of God. For a long time, from the Black Sea to the Julian Alps, those things which are ours have not been ours; and for thirty years, since the Danube boundary was broken, war has been waged in the very midst of the Roman Empire. Our tears are dried by old age. Except a few old men, all were born in captivity and siege, and do not desire the liberty they never knew……….Who could believe that Rome, built upon the conquest of the whole world, would fall to the ground? That the mother herself would become the tomb of her peoples? That all the regions of the East, of Africa and Egypt, once ruled by the queenly city, would be filled with troops of slaves and handmaidens? That to-day holy Bethlehem should shelter men and women of noble birth, who once abounded in wealth and are now beggars?”

If you think a total economic collapse is coming and you want to survive it, preparations that you make by yourself are almost totally pointless.

For guidance we can look to a more recent example of total economic breakdown – the Bandenkrieg of the Thirty Years War (1618–1648) – where entire towns were sacked and entire regions depopulated by roving bands of armed men.

I often think about the awesome firepower my infantry platoon could lay down and about the futility of one armed man or even a handful of men attempting to defend against that. If you think total economic collapse is coming and you want to survive it, you’ll need to be in the right location and part of a very large group of like-minded men.

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Eric June 29, 2012 at 14:10

Martel:
Excellent observations. That really needed to be said.

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TFH June 29, 2012 at 14:32

The Brian Banks documentary completed a successful fundraising campaign at Kickstarter, raising over $47,000, and exceeding the goal.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1681576010/the-brian-banks-story?ref=home_popular

They were at just $31,000, 8 days ago when I first mentioned it here. Great job to anyone who donated.

This will be a blow to the false rape industry. I hope they make the documentary that realizes this is not a one-off, but an epidemic that keeps claiming more and more young men.

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Rob June 29, 2012 at 15:23

@ Charles Martel,

It may not be a pretty picture, and maybe complete economic collapse will not occur, but something is coming down the pike. It is inevitable.

All of the western nations now have 50% or more of their populations receiving their income in one way or another from the government. In other words, there are more parasites than there are hosts. And, the parasites that are getting a job income from the government, such as teachers, have created an aristocratic niche for themselves and receive wages that far exceed what the free market will bear – and they ain’t about to give it up. Look at what happened in Wisconsin a while back, all the whining and sniveling from teachers and the like – they are already the highest paid people in society with a four year humanities degree, and they still think they are entitled to more.

The looming demographic shift of the Boomers is another factor that is going to screw us. After aborting one in three children, there just won’t be enough people to pay for all the social services the Boomers are going vote in for themselves. Do they really expect the smaller, poorer generations behind them to pay for their pensions AND their healthcare bills? Also, since the majority of our economic gains over the past 20 years or more, have been built by falling interests – thus creating rising home equity (the mortgage payments on the same house have changed little over decades – only the top end figure), there are going to be oodles of Boomers looking to trade off all that equity and invest it somewhere safe to get a retirement income… but where, at 2% interest? There’s gonna be a lot of angry millionaire boomers out there when they only get an extra $20,000/yr for being a millionaire instead of the $60,000-80,000/yr they had counted on for their whole life. They will pressure the government to raise interest rates, but if the government does so, it will have to drastically reduce its services which it can provide as the debt servicing burden will rise in accordance with the interest rates. So, they are damned if they do (they will increase their debt servicing costs to the point where they can’t provide services) and they are damned if they don’t. (If they don’t raise interest rates to reasonable levels, more “wealthy” people will have to rely on gov’t services to get by, increasing the amount the gov’t must spend).

On the other hand, since so many people’s net worth – and the economic boom of the past decades – is based upon home equity, and since what people actually buy is the mortgage payment and not the top end price of the home – once interest rates rise to maintain confidence in the dollar, the economy will plummet as house prices drop to reflect reasonable mortgage payments which people can afford. (A $200,000 house at 4% and a $100,000 house at 8% both equal around $800/mo – it is the $800/mo that really matters, not the top, although it is that very top that has fueled our economic growth by people borrowing against that equity to spend… those days are gone).

It’s a great big house of cards, and the math doesn’t lie – only governments do, and they will lie that everything is OK up until the day there isn’t a penny left for any social services anymore.

Most likely what will happen is there won’t be total economic collapse, but there will be a partial collapse as the government inflates its way out of the problem while keeping its payments the same… we’ll pay you your pension – but it will only buy half as much stuff. Enjoy your poverty.

It is very difficult to imagine how Western economies can keep going on the way they have… the credit card is maxed out and the mill is laying people off for lack of work… only the secretaries still have jobs printing up people’s lay-off notices. The reality is that the bill is coming in for the extravagance of the last decades, and while the Boomers seem to think that utopia will go on forever, I doubt very much that the younger generations are going to be too keen to watch their taxation rates double so that the richest generation that ever lived gets social benefits that the younger generations will never hope to see for themselves.

The parasites outnumber the hosts now, and when the parasite leads the host, it tends to lead to the demise of both organisms.

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Rebel June 29, 2012 at 15:35

@Charles Martel:

Very sobering words, yours are.

Although we may claim to be more civilized, there are many more people on the planet now. And the weapons are much more formidable than in antiquity.

So, a collapse may be even bloodier than what happened after Rome fell.

Although nobody wants it, a collapse could happen. No place would be safe. Chilling thoughts.

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Ted June 29, 2012 at 16:00

“Great Books for Men is a loveable troll,”

The trouble is, there can be too much to love.

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keyster June 29, 2012 at 16:04

It is very difficult to imagine how Western economies can keep going on the way they have…

Stockton, CA is a sort of ground-zero harbinger of what’s to come. Other cities will follow and then the entire state, and then the Feds will have to jump in to keep government services barely operative. Greek rioters are one thing, wait ’til you see East Compton.

Detroit is clinging to life. It might be next. And then New York, Illinois and maybe Conneticut or Mass or Rhode Island. The nail in the coffin will be Democrat controlled states implementing ObamaCare; setting up Medicaid support and the exchanges.

If anyone thinks health insurance is expensive now, just wait until they offer it for “free” to those that can’t afford insurance. Anyone with a hang nail or a cough will be at the state approved health exchange office. More and more doctors will become fee based, refusing to accept the 40 cents on the dollar for government insurance. The waiting is first and the rationing is soon to follow.

The USA isn’t Sweden or Canada. We’re not a nice neat little homogeneous country. We’re “diverse”. ObamaCare is meant to cripple the US economy so a Socialist Utopia can be rebuilt from the ashes post collapse. It’s the first big step in the master plan of the NWO. Control health care access, control the people.

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Ted June 29, 2012 at 16:07

“Bob is convinced that eliminating phonics was a deliberate maneuver to make boys fail, ”

IMO, it was teachers proving to the laity that they knew best; and giving themselves more employment security.

Learning to read is the basic, fundamental educational step. Even though we have videos now, you still need to be able to read to take advantage of our booming information society. It is simply disgraceful that children can come out of our schools and not be able to read.

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Gilgamesh June 29, 2012 at 16:16

I know the system will eat itself, but what do we do about otherwise conservative men who have a blind spot where women are concerned?

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Gilgamesh June 29, 2012 at 16:19

@keyster. I’ve heard this prediction before but I still don’t get how they’re supposed to trick Americans into supporting a socialist utopia when socialism was the cause of the collapse in the first place. Won’t the fencesitters go over to our side once they realize they don’t need the government to wipe their asses for them?

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Fernandez June 29, 2012 at 16:25

It is true what the guy is writing. It is good to know that there are out there men in their 20s who knows what is really going on. As an experienced corporate hamster, I can myself attest, that most young men I have met are ambitious and hard-workers. However, they are also very easily manipulated by women and obsessed with political correctness. The atmosphere I experienced in these companies with aggressive women and their manginas made me opt out and find alternate ways of living. I know they will pay me more if I come back; it is just that I do not want to put myself in such a dangerous environment if I can.

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will June 29, 2012 at 16:30
will June 29, 2012 at 16:45

@Anonymous age 70 June 29, 2012 at 09:41

What he means by: “Strong biblical men” are men that dominate their women which subsequently gives her gina tingles as is a woman’s nature. So women may hate him intellectually but their hindbrains say different.

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greyghost June 29, 2012 at 16:56

Charles Martel
The most valuable tool for a prepper type is a good friend network. Rather than be a lone wolf that is prepared get to know your neighbors.
Organized gangs will be the biggest threat to individual beta men.

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keyster June 29, 2012 at 16:56

I’ve heard this prediction before but I still don’t get how they’re supposed to trick Americans into supporting a socialist utopia when socialism was the cause of the collapse in the first place.

The Left has controlled our education system and MSM for 40 years; slowly speading it’s Marxist propaganda. It’s only recently that the Right has been able to speak to a broader audience – – via AM radio at first, the Washington Times and Wall Street Journal, then came FNC, and Drudge and the New Media now. Once people understand the agenda the Left has for this country and the consequences of their policies, they’ll know what our Framers intended and what Conservatism means.

Read Glenn Beck’s “Cowards”.
He talks about how the Left will scoff at being called Socialists, while that’s exactly what they intend for America. They’ll never admit it. Secular-Progressivism is to “progress” to a government controlled egalitarian utopia where the State is worshipped and it’s leaders the deities.

How are we so easily “tricked”?
Some of us are not very smart.

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Rebel June 29, 2012 at 17:00

keyster
” The nail in the coffin will be Democrat controlled states implementing ObamaCare; setting up Medicaid support and the exchanges. ”

In Canada we have “free” healthcare. It consumes almost half of the entire budget.

Obamacare may result costing as much. But then again, in order to be able to afford it, the U.S. will have to cut drastically in its defense spendings.
The military industrial complex will have to be dismantled.

I don’t know if that day will come…

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suspectum June 29, 2012 at 17:27

Canada is not a homogenous country but has been overrun by non-western immigrants for decades now…”enrichment” and “diversification” are state religion here. Bring on the results of failed states like Somalia, surely they will have lots to offer to enRICH us with, on top of the rampant feminazi police state.

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Darryl X June 29, 2012 at 17:43

@ Martel -

“I often think about the awesome firepower my infantry platoon could lay down and about the futility of one armed man or even a handful of men attempting to defend against that.”

I wasn’t thinking of defending against it. I was thinking of running like hell.

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Teckel June 29, 2012 at 17:50

From what I read, “look-say” methods of teaching reading were promoted over tried and true phonics because of egalitarianism run mad: VERY bright, very advanced young children found memorizing phonics tedious and dull. Some were permanently turned off reading, because they had to endure weeks of phonics . These children were the ones who memorized words easily (both the definition as well as the quote unquote ‘shape of the word’), so ‘whole word’ methods were perfect for them. So education experts took a method which worked well for a tiny percentage of young readers and pretended that ALL children could learn this way : With disastrous results for American literacy levels.

I learned via phonics. By the time I was in 4th grade, I was tested at the reading comprehension level of a college junior. I am so, so glad I dodged the bullet of ‘look-say’ and ‘whole word’ memorization!

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Gilgamesh June 29, 2012 at 17:56

@greyghost
I live in SWPLland, anyone i talk to about prepping will think I’m crazy

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Charles Martel June 29, 2012 at 18:00

greyghost
The most valuable tool for a prepper type is a good friend network. Rather than be a lone wolf that is prepared get to know your neighbors.
Organized gangs will be the biggest threat to individual beta men.

Just to be clear, I don’t think we’re headed for a total economic collapse. I just wanted to point out that’s not something you really want to wish for. Yes, it would end feminism, but at what cost?

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Zorro June 29, 2012 at 18:23

I’m going to end this right now.

I have spent the past eight months reading
“The War on Boys” by Christina Hoff-Sommers,
“Exposing Feminism,” by Swayne O’Pie,
“Women First, Men Last,” by Steven Adams,
“The Woman Racket,” by Steve Moxon,
“The Miseducation of Women,” by James Tooley,

and God knows whatever else spilled across my desk and wound up in my Kindle. I am fed up with the macho 1950s chatter with the John Wayne “No need to fear the little girl” bullshit that my father’s generation sang themselves to sleep with. The feminists have spent the past 60 years burrowing into the governments of Canada, Australia, the U.K. and the U.S. in the most breathtaking example of Entryism since George Orwell told us some animals were more equal than others.

I have always enjoyed Anonymous 68-69-70′s contributions, but I have no tolerance for snivelling picnic chatter. For all of the feminist BS we have to deal with, what is happening in the education system is bone-chilling. The male of the human species is being systematically marginalized by our own government agencies. And NOBODY is doing anything about it. You make a man at the age of 20 without an education, and you have predicated every failure in his life.

Did you know that in England the Ministry of Education demonstrated that female teachers grade male student’s work at an average of -11% that of identical female student work? Same work, lower grade.

Do you seriously believe that the US Dept of Education and the NEA teachers unions are anything else but de facto branches of the N.O.W.?

You realize that 92% of American teachers K-16 are female, and the bulk of them are feminists, along with the administration?

Do. The. Fucking. Math.

Oh, and I forgot. In Japan, 80% of teachers are male. And for some reason that totally escapes me, they don’t have this problem over there.

Now shut the fuck up. I need my sleep.

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Observer June 29, 2012 at 19:05

One thing we can all just throw out the window from the start: most women do not go to school to become independent and self sufficient.
They go to increase their mating prospects and get a foothold into an upwardly mobile gaggle of friends (which leads to more prospects). I think most gals get off imagining how they’d cram themselves into someone else’s world where they can be the center of attention while flaunting their priveledged lives in front of each other.

If most guys out there were as eager to help their sons, brothers, and friends out as the ladies do their own (albeit out of self interest), we wouldn’t be such easy targets! Many of us here finally understand that what we’ve been calling tough love is really just throwing ourselves to the wolves.

Just about all the crazy liberal shit in the past 60 years has been a straight up attack on everything we are and everything we enjoy. You name it: patriarchal establishments, sports, hobbies, masculinity, autonomy, intellectual capacity, moral capacity, parenting capacity, earning potential. The refusal to even acknowledge any vital differences between the sexes outside of reproductive organs has become the norm.

So the answer is building on each other. Don’t be afraid to mentor. It’s the only way the younger guys of the world are going to make it. We could lecture females until the cows go homely, but they’re just going to follow the next ol’ bessie in front of them.

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Traveller June 29, 2012 at 19:07

“I often think about the awesome firepower my infantry platoon could lay down and about the futility of one armed man or even a handful of men attempting to defend against that.”

Was that not said even for Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan….?

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Just to remember, Troll King seems another young guy with clear ideas and nice phrasing.

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AndrewV June 29, 2012 at 19:11

@Zorro June 29, 2012 at 18:23

For all of the feminist BS we have to deal with, what is happening in the education system is bone-chilling.

Add this recent paper to your list then:
London School of Economics Centre for Economic Performance
CEE DP 133
Students’ Perceptions of Teacher Biases: Experimental Economics in Schools
Authors: Amine Ouazad, Lionel Page
Date:January 2012
http://cee.lse.ac.uk/ceedps/ceedp133.pdf

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Eric June 29, 2012 at 19:27

Zorro:
The educational system at all levels is under the feminist thumb. To answer Anon70′s question: how do men still succeed under it? They don’t. They succeed in spite of it.

Men are not under the same entitlement system as women. We work harder and have to adapt and have to be more productive out of necessity. That’s the male tendency to survive and go againt the herd. If the deck was stacked the other way—like in the Islamic countries—women couldn’t succeed in spite of the system.

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freebird June 29, 2012 at 19:29

It’s off topic but:
Heard on the radio today,there are plans for the State of Michigan to put “special” urinal cakes in the men’s restrooms.

Somehow specific to MEN owning pickup trucks-Not to drink and drive.
Why?
Because women don’t drink and drive, they have men do it for them?
Or maybe the lesbians in the Michigan LEO system have a strap on hard on against MEN.

I need to start carry small tools like a wonderbar,and a small pick,and screwdriver.
(to destroy the misandrist messages that keep coming into my piss-view area!)

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Eric June 29, 2012 at 19:33

Keyster:
‘We’re not a neat homogenous country.’

The bright side to the picture is that the Socialist/Fascist/NWO elites are blind to this fact. A country like Sweden has far greater flexibility for social experimentation because of its homogenity. The lack of it here is going to make it extremely difficult for the elites impose their will without a lot of social upheaval.

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Eric June 29, 2012 at 19:39

Freebird:
It’s like these feminazis can’t even let a guy relieve himself without a ‘Big Sister is Watching You’ reminder in his face. Like the State of Michigan has nothing better to do—it’s just another example of how obsessed and fanatical these people really are.

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Attila June 29, 2012 at 20:16

I find women so boring – I can’t even bring myself to make any critical comments —- they are just there in the background. Life is good!

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Rebel June 29, 2012 at 21:29

“Attila June 29, 2012 at 20:16

I find women so boring – I can’t even bring myself to make any critical comments —- they are just there in the background. Life is good!”

This is so true it almost hurts.

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Eric June 29, 2012 at 21:56

Anon70:
Also relevant to the political scene: I was a big supporter of PAN when I was down your way. I can’t believe they self-destructed by playing the ‘strong woman’ card. Didn’t they learn anything from what happened to McCain here in 2008?

Now it’s down to the wire between PRI and El Peje. I wonder what Mexico is going to look like.

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walking in hell June 29, 2012 at 22:00

Re-reading the young man’s commentary makes me realize how much of a failure the MRM is. The young man is experiencing the same things that I experienced 20 years ago.

Just to show you how bad things are getting, read this. It is a 2010 report by the Michigan court about the underground economy and child support system.

http://courts.michigan.gov/scao/resources/publications/reports/UETF-2010.pdf

The report makes some recommendations on new enforcement methods. Even a casual reading of this document would be enough to scare the life out of any man who is considering fathering children in America.

One thing to note in this article is just how many resources are dedicated to collecting money Vs almost no resources dedicated to guaranteeing a man parenting time with his children.

Any man who fights for America is fighting for his own slavery.

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American June 29, 2012 at 22:01

I read somewhere that when American law enforcement use protocol perversions and semantics games to enable violent women, they are in fact endangering our nations most vulnerable…Its children.
For example, the same women that smacks, hits and even stabs her boyfriends, are the same women that smack, hit, and even stab their own children. Law enforcement could intercept these violent women (and save children from getting beat) during domestic abuse situations, but gender-Raunch tell law enforcement not to.

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ralph gorman June 29, 2012 at 22:46

Forced feminism is like forced bussing, forced racial integration and forced worship of Israel. It all arises from the same source.

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evilwhitemalempire June 29, 2012 at 22:55

Once the majority of western men were opposed to the idea of women talking down to them too. We should not nurture a false sense of security that we can rely on Islamic culture to save the future world from Feminism.

————–

not islamic culture, islamic genes

the men over there are higher t men
that makes them more physically aggressive (in reality is (ultimately) the reason they’re always fighting over there)

no, islam in the hands of us (civilized) low t white men is useless

but race replacement with it’s influx of genes for higher t men will work

BUT it’s an organic solution and that means it will be a long time in coming

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Rob June 29, 2012 at 23:04

@ Evilwhitemalempire,

While it is true that white men have become sissified, I wouldn’t go so far as to say that white men are some low t-count males.

In the history of the world, white men have been some of the most vicious people that have ever existed.

The people that are playing upon our white guilt might do well to remember that we didn’t come to dominate the earth by accident.

Beware of the beast that gets unleashed, I figure. If it is going to be a free for all… white men throughout history have earned their stripes.

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evilwhitemalempire June 29, 2012 at 23:22

Take a deep breath and think for a minute. I asked a valid question. If boys are being destroyed by the educational system, how can they still out earn the pampered, spoiled dearies?

———————-

IF, in fact, they are then it’s because

a: most genuinely useful knowledge isn’t learned in a classroom (jealously guarded, dirty little secret educators have passed on for generations)

b: they work harder jobs, longer hours than the spoiled, pampered dearies are willing

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evilwhitemalempire June 29, 2012 at 23:29

The people that are playing upon our white guilt might do well to remember that we didn’t come to dominate the earth by accident.

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we came to dominate the earth through our brains and technology NOT through hair trigger, impulsive aggression driven by high t

but it WAS hair trigger, impulsive male aggression that once sublimated females and their manipulative ways to a manageable level

but we lost most of that as we became civilized

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migu June 30, 2012 at 01:01

There will not be a collapse.

The only “collapses” that we have ever seen were both caused by natural disaster. The flood, Babel, Justinian plague, and the black death.

Krakatoa could cause a collapse. The Yellowstone Caldera could cause a collapse. Anthrax outbreak could cause a collapse, asteroid impact could cause a collapse.

It takes years

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evilwhitemalempire June 30, 2012 at 01:20

Keyster
The days of white-knight SoCons pandering to women as a group is gone – – and it might end up costing them in November.
———————-

unless, of course, enough fence sitter mras temporarily put aside their racially and economically based grievances and give those men a new future working for us

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dhanu June 30, 2012 at 01:54

The following is very well known among all the feminist websites (they cheerfully talk about it all the time; no doubts, no conflicts about the facts) and there are studies proving this common knowledge, that on average, among the age group of people in their:

50′s, men highly out-earn women; these are the ones that mainly account for the wage gap figure;

40′s, men earn higher than women but only slightly, the difference is not as much as the above age group;

30′s, the incomes of the two sexes are about the same;

20′s, women now out-earn men by about 4% (I forgot the exact figure, it could be 14% or something; all I remember is there was the digit ’4′ in it).

This trend coincides with the trends of college performance among the male and female students over the 40 years which show a constant degradation among the males and a constant improvement among the females.

For the feminists, these facts are taken for granted. For most men, they don’t even have any idea what the actual situation is, except that it’s something bad.

I have an idea. How about dedicating a section of the website to studies, papers, links, and evidence, where all the things can be found in one place, neatly organized in sub-categories? Sometimes extremely important document links show up in the comments but they get burried down and ultimately effectively lost. If a specific section is dedicated to such links, someone doing a research can not only find the specific document needed, but can also come across some very helpful related data by chance.

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walking in hell June 30, 2012 at 01:56

@migu
“There will not be a collapse. ”

I agree. A “collapse” is just wishful thinking on the part of men who are dreaming that some natural or supernatural power will step in and save their lives. It’s not going to happen.

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Eric June 30, 2012 at 02:04

Migu:
The corporate elites have a vested interest in not letting the system crash economically. I think the reason we’re seeing such a high concentration of wealth at the top recently is because these same elites are planning their next move; it wouldn’t make sense for them to stockpile assets that have no value. Just like they’re stockpiling weaponry and building a surveillance state. They obviously don’t anticipate an economic collapse (unless it’s one they temporarily manufacture to create a ‘crisis’).

Most likely what is really happening is that these manouvres are a prelude to a power-grab of some kind. But these elites know full well that they themselves can’t survive without a productive class. So they’re positioning themselves to act as ‘protectors’ of the productive class.

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David Collard June 30, 2012 at 03:29

There are other countries beside America. If you don’t graduate innovative young men, there are plenty of Asian countries that will. Feminism could end America’s technical dominance.

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migu June 30, 2012 at 03:56

Envy is what will take this country down. One day everyone will be equally destitute.

The envious are not the jealous. Jealous folks simply want what you have. The envious don’t want you to have it at all. Most Westerners believe envy is a virtue.

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Steve_85 June 30, 2012 at 04:32

“You have no idea how angry young men like me are”

I do. I’m 26, and a year ago I was furious. The last year has mellowed me out a lot. I realise that there isn’t much that can be done anymore.

I find it ironic that the constant cry of ‘men hate women’ has in fact created an entire generation of men who DO hate women. Personally I don’t care one way or the other. I’ve had enough. I’m just going to do my own thing. The country, the world for all I care can burn.

No commitment. No impregnation. No cohabitation.

A mate of mine said something last weekend and it was quite possibly the saddest moment of the year, because after he’d said it, everyone in the room was nodding. He said:

“Women are nothing more than a life support system for a vagina. Fuck em and chuck em.”

Feminism HAS hurt women. Because in 15-20 years, the women of my age group are going to be turning 40… and I hope they like cats.

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freebird June 30, 2012 at 04:34

actually I’m going to start carrying small cans of spray paint also, to cover up those “Only men can prevent rape” placards in the mens piss area.
It really sucks to be left handed accused of rape whilst you’ve got your dick in your hand.
I think that was the whole idea,to hit below the waist.
Hitting below the waist has always been unfair play,fuck it,will risk a vandalism charge.

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Henry June 30, 2012 at 05:02

To put it simply, western society is an UNSUSTAINABLE SYSTEM.

It is unsustainable economically, politically, socially (feminism), culturally (feminism), or enviromentally.

Western society will collapse on it’s own, and when it does, we are back to the stone ages. Women will no longer have big daddy government to take care of them, so women are going to change their tune REAL FAST and start begging men to give them protection again.

Women will literally have to fuck for protection. Otherwise, why would a man give his protection to a woman if she won’t even satisfy him?

Feminism is finishes as soon as modern society collapses, and it will happen pretty soon.

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David Collard June 30, 2012 at 05:07

They won’t even leave you alone in the toilet?

God, they are such fucking nags.

Why not a few posters in the women’s toilets? “Only women can prevent abortion.”

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Darryl X June 30, 2012 at 05:14

@ migu

“Envy is what will take this country down.”

It already did.

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Darryl X June 30, 2012 at 05:16

@ Collard -

“Feminism could end America’s technical dominance.”

I kinda thought it already did. America hasn’t really lead technical innovation for decades.

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Darryl X June 30, 2012 at 05:31

@ dhanu -

Although there is a correlation between incomes and formal education, I do not believe the relationship is mechanistic. I think the reason women make more than men today has to do not with education but government actively precluding men from higher paying jobs and the workplace altogether and imposition by government upon men and opportunities that are available to women but not to men.

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Darryl X June 30, 2012 at 05:48

I disagree about collapse. It began about forty-four years ago and we are currently in the endgame. Endgames get very messy. Although collapses have happened before, they have never happened on a global scale like this one so predicting the outcome based upon probability from past events is not possible. Our leaders are not here to help you. They are here to help themselves at your expense. So looking to the governments for help is a dangerous proposition. Those who are doing so are likely to become their victims.

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Mr. J June 30, 2012 at 06:04

since GRTBOOKS4MEN hasn’t explained what “lzzzololzzz” is, I WILL answer that….

Ditz women put “lolz” at the end of text messages to show they’re laughing about something but its ALL THE TIME.

GRTBOOK4MEN is making light of this fact when he uses “lzzzolozzzz”

See, “lol” means laughing out loud and they put a “z” instead of an “s” on there to be clever.

All interesting stuff, eh?………..lolz

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Darryl X June 30, 2012 at 06:08

I like comments by GRTBOOK4MEN. Local color for the MRM. It’s like being in a foreign country. Embrace the culture.

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Darryl X June 30, 2012 at 06:21

@ Ted -

“The trouble is, there can be too much to love.”

There can never be too much love.

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migu June 30, 2012 at 06:23

The division of labor will contract, it’s already doing so. What it wont do is collapse. People will simply have to do more for less.

A collapse entails plague or Noah’s flood. Nuclear war could do it too. Mechanics will not forget their trades. Nor will farmers, nor will security personnel. What happens is higher level labor is no longer demanded. Specialists become the exception instead of the norm.

That may seem like a collapse, but it is not. Figure no more scented candles, or $300 bottles of perfume, only one kind of soap. That is what happens when men deem to violate economic law. Much like a plane that runs out of fuel in midflight. Gravity takes over.

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Darryl X June 30, 2012 at 06:27

“We simply aren’t gonna take this shit lying down any longer!!!”

By Anonymous but I thought it was worth posting again. Here it is a few more times.

“We simply aren’t gonna take this shit lying down any longer!!!”

“We simply aren’t gonna take this shit lying down any longer!!!”

“We simply aren’t gonna take this shit lying down any longer!!!”

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Darryl X June 30, 2012 at 06:32

@ Cynical Youth -

“I wonder how much of this abuse of us commoner men truly is rooted in some sort of conscious plan by some of the elites as opposed to being driven in part by base irrational animalistic instincts?”

It is an expression of malignant narcissism and psychopathy and their relationship to primitive social organizing. It’s not a conspiracy or design so much as it is default construct created by lazy minds belonging to people who have never done any real work and who prefer to manipulate and parasitize and lie compulsively.

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Darryl X June 30, 2012 at 06:55

@ Mr J -

“since GRTBOOKS4MEN hasn’t explained what “lzzzololzzz” is, I WILL answer that….”

Or it could be the literal expression of static in a radio transmission. The MRM needs a poet. The poster obviously is a literary genius, intellect and scholar. And he’s on OUR side. This kind of diversity in literary expression of frustration with feminism is what distinguishes the MRM from the homogeneity of feminism. Homogeneity which will be its downfall.

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Darryl X June 30, 2012 at 06:58

I just realized that GRTBOKS4MEN may not be a man so sorry for the presumption.

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Mr. J June 30, 2012 at 07:22

I very much like GRTBOOKS4MEN also.

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Migu June 30, 2012 at 07:52

Why not a few posters in the women’s toilets? “Only women can prevent abortion.”

It would be fun to do it at a singles bar. Then watch the outrage.

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Jim June 30, 2012 at 07:54

GBFM is an asset. Welcome him even though you might have to read his post a few times. But once you get at the meat of it, the man makes much sense.

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Mr. J June 30, 2012 at 07:55

I just love the way gr8book4men uses “lozzzzzlolzzzzzz”…..I just HAVE to laugh about it and I don’t laugh very much.

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Anonymous June 30, 2012 at 07:55

The days of the free pussy pass for false rape accusers are gone.

Granted the penalties these twats receive for their false accusation are lenient, but the fact that they are being jailed at all speaks volumes.
As I stated earlier, the winds have changed.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/crime/12323069-418/woman-charged-with-falsely-accusing-man-of-rape.html

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2010-02-23/news/27057139_1_drunken-brawl-extremely-heinous-crime-prison

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/nov/19/faalse-rape-claim-woman-jailed

http://www.neagle.com/news/x1915456843/Woman-who-falsely-accused-man-of-sexual-assault-is-sentenced

There are lots more examples like these. Google for yourselves and have hope.

Their shit is only just beginning to be fucked up!

FTSU!

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Mr. J June 30, 2012 at 07:57

…that, and “butthex”…lololololol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mr. J June 30, 2012 at 08:08

“bernankified”…lol!!

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Huck Finn June 30, 2012 at 08:31

I was recently at an old-style German Deli Smoke House and got into a conversation with a young male employee about what to study in college and to consider about his future. I suggested that he consider a career in something that cannot ideally be outsourced or easily be replaced with technology, is needed whether the economy is up or down, and to learn foreign language(s) should he need to move oversees. We then discussed how America and the West are filled with misandry and how dangerous women can be in a relationship or in the corporate world. He was very receptive and interested to learn more about the gender-war’s big picture. When I arrived home and opened my order, I found that he had thrown in a few extra German sausages. It pays to spread the good word to younger men.

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Turbo the Drycleaner June 30, 2012 at 08:33

ive always pictured great books 4 men as a very wise, slightly retarded man who has done everything. sort of like forrest gump.

i always thought lozlozolzolzozlozzoz was sort of like LOL- the internet laugh of an evil mastermind.

I carefully read and pronounce each lozllozlzolzolozozzozoz when i read his posts.

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Migu June 30, 2012 at 08:36

There can never be too much love.

This truly is the solution. Be it practical or not, practicing it ameliorates every situation in which you may find yourself.

Would you kill someone or something that you loved?

Do you love yourself as you love others?

Would you put the woman you loved in the situation of a married man in the U.S.A circa 2012?

A few things I’ve pondered anyway…

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Zorro June 30, 2012 at 08:51

Collapse?

Can’t happen? It takes “years?”

The Great Depression was a collapse. It happened in a f***ing afternoon.

Feminism can absolutely lead to an economic collapse. Easily. They’re working on it right now, not that the morons realize it…

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Matt June 30, 2012 at 08:59

Talk to younger men, engage them in conversation, and when the time is right, tell them of our experiences and what is really going on. I would like to add that I never really talked to older men when I was younger, and when I did, I got the white knight advice. This was good advice for the 1950s and it was given in good faith, but by the 1980s the game changed. We did not have anybody on our side then.

They will not know this wisdom from the MSM or academia. Men under 40 are taught to believe that Laura Ingalls and the girls
tamed the west, and that Disney’s Pocahontas is how the Indians really were. Pastorial Utopian revisionist nonsense. Boys need heroes, and they will find them, whether it be the local thug, pimp or pusher, or more traditional examples of manhood. Any little bit we do to better guide them is a good thing. this is something a HSM can never completely understand. That used to be the role of the father. and I don’t have to go into what happened there.

I agree with G8books4men. He does take a bit getting used to, but he is worth reading.

Encourage men to read Homer, the Bible, Shakespeare, Virgil, and the classics, not the fluff translations, but the earlier non PC translations. Read biographies of famous MEN written before 1950 , not the PC, NOW approved versions available today. Let them know there was wisdom in the world before 1970. ok Rant over.

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Migu June 30, 2012 at 09:02

The Great Depression was a collapse. It happened in a f***ing afternoon.

Really? Overnight?

So, the debt from WWI had nothing to do with it?

The expansion of credit after Versailles had nothing to do with it?

One day it just happened right? Just like one day Social Security won’t pay. It will happen overnight!!!!

Furthermore, did society end in the Great Depression? Did it even come close? No, labor contracted, and instead of being able to buy food, you had to trade for it.

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Zorro June 30, 2012 at 09:14

@Migu: Don’t bother with the righteous indignation; you can’t pull it off.

Did WWI debt have something to do with it. Sure.

But we were chugging along just fine in the morning, and flinging ourselves out the windows at 4pm.

“It” happened in an afternoon. The collapse. What factors influenced its inevitability were numerous. Just as the architecture of our future collapse is being manufactured now. And the collapse will be sudden…say, when the Chinese decide to demand their money, or North Korea fires on Japan and we have a global war in the Pacific.

It will hit us like Sugar Ray Robinson. You won’t see it coming.

Did society end in the Great Depression. No. Did human society end in any other collapse?

Yawn. You are such an amateur.

Are you a girl?

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Matt June 30, 2012 at 09:28

gr8tbooks4men uses the term neocon quite a bit, I am a conservative, but I am not a white knight. my idea of conservatism boils down to this, ” The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.” quote from Dennis Praeger national talk show host.

Democracy will not work when the people cannot govern themselves (individually). This was the main reason for the left wings preoccupation with deconstruction of Christianity, and its tenants. First, remove all personal governance of behavior, replace it with nothing, so the Government can save us from ourselves. (nanny state)

Another reason was that in the earlier part of our republic, only land owners were allowed to vote, so it was in their interest to curb government. With universal voting suffrage, people without skin in the game, (the disenfranchised in liberalspeak) that dynamic changed, and for the worse. That is why government’s nature is to grow. IMHO

I cannot distill it any better then that.

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Migu June 30, 2012 at 09:28

@Migu: Don’t bother with the righteous indignation; you can’t pull it off.

Don’t bother with the dismissive petulance, you can’t pull it off.

But we were chugging along just fine in the morning, and flinging ourselves out the windows at 4pm.

If you don’t maintain the automobile it has tendency to throw a rod. It happens like that, but it doesn’t just happen. It takes years of neglect and abuse before the rod punctures the block.

happened in an afternoon. The collapse. What factors influenced its inevitability were numerous. Just as the architecture of our future collapse is being manufactured now. And the collapse will be sudden…say, when the Chinese decide to demand their money, or North Korea fires on Japan and we have a global war in the Pacific.

There will not be a collapse. It did not happen during the depression. It won’t happen during this one.

Is the world richer now, or before the depression? Did the 4pm jump session collapse the world?

Or were there more people on the planet at the end of the depression?

It will hit us like Sugar Ray Robinson. You won’t see it coming.

Yet here we are predicting it.

Yawn. You are such an amateur.

I did mention your inability with dismissive petulance yes?

Are you a girl?

No

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keyster June 30, 2012 at 10:42

The Great Depression originated from an over-leveraged, unregulated derivatives market, (much like the recent mortgage industry collapse). The run on the banking system (and its collapse) made it seem immediate. Ensuing remedies made it only worse.

The next big indication to look for will be State insolvency, probably California. The Feds will step in to prop it up in a “too big to fail” policy. The citizens of other states will see California eating into their share of federal dollars and become resentful and protest. “Why should my taxes go to pay for California’s mis-management?”, will be the common lament. A domino effect will be triggered and the country will be divided geographically – Red vs. Blue. Texas will secede and then Vermont in protest…and so a methodical balkanization continues, some states forming alliances with others as “country state nations”.

It’ll be a big mess, but it’ll be exciting to witness the biggest national crisis since the Civil War. You can kind of sense this “melting” pot is about to boil over, probably between 2025 and 2030. It’s then China, sensing a weakened US, will flex its military muscle in the South China Sea and beyond. They’re just waiting for the US to hit the skids. They’ll waltz through Taiwan, SE Asia, South Korea, Philipines and perhaps even OZ – with little resistence.

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Anonymous June 30, 2012 at 10:53

@Keyster

The Chinese are not now, nor have they ever been militarily aggressive or imperialist toward any nation in their politics. They continue to happily play second fiddle to the U.S., just as they have done since its very inception.

Show me one act of military aggression carried out by the Chinese upon any of their neighbors within the last three hundred years…

They may snigger at and capitalize on our failing economy, but with a standing army of over 300,000,000 infantrymen alone, it’s a safe bet that they would have “invaded” long ago, had they so desired.

Get your “enemies” straight, man.
They sure as fuck ain’t the Chinese.

All your paranoid rhetoric does is create fear and division, where it is not needed and where it does not belong.

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Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM) June 30, 2012 at 11:04

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“I went searching for one of my favorite Great Books For Men comments and found that, indeed, in this case GBFM had double-dipped from his own blog. In response to Heartiste’s “Dominance Plays” GBFM offers some new comments, and then slides in an additional classic chestnut posted earlier on his home blog:

Today the master fiat class gives the first rights of your wife to an endless array of douchetards, starting in elementary school, commanding her to see lying, peacocking, manipulative, girly beta males as alphas, while seeing manly alphas as betas; as her mother exiled her true father long ago, under command of the fiat masters.

From an early age they teach her that her ginatingles rule the world, not Jesus, nor Thor, nor Zeus, nor Moses. When she gets knocked up, they reward her with fiat dollars which Ben Benanke hand delivers in his helicopter. . . .

But GBFM is really on a role. He immediately follows up with the first instance I’d encountered of one of his ‘rewrites’ on the essay Heartiste has just delivered:

hey heartiststtetsts!!!!

i have notcied a couple speleleing errororos errors in your ways words and i have fixed them vbecasuee you beemever know when neoocn womenz like chalrortte allen will be dropping by here to check your rgramamamrz grammarz lzozlzllzozozlzozozozo

GBFM moonlighting as copyeditor has become one of his most endearing, and sublimely surreal, conceits. Here he is in glittering form on a recent entry on the viability of the Romney campaign, complete with a trademark–

lzzoozlzoozlzolzozoz

hery hey heartistssee i love your preiddtionss peredictions and i know you work hard so sometimes you mispless missplell things misspells how the fuck do you spelll msisisisisissspelelll? lzozzloololzozzlozol omg it dirves me babaananananaaananannaananansssssananaaas

anyayawzy i have coreecttred your gramamar and spelelings lzozlzozo::

2012 prediction: the Eurozone experiment in forced financial buthhexting implodes, taking a cock in the ass and the U.S. with it. . . .

The corrections for “gramamar and spelelings” consist in inserting curse words and scatology, especially wherever the construction allows some sort of logical homophony between Heartiste’s original complaint (usually these are quite salty in themselves) and GBFM’s obsessive unmasking of “buthhexting” and “assocking”, sodomy being his neo-Dantean metaphor for usury and, well, sodomy, the instrument by which the neoconservatives “desoul” modern women through what Milton would call (I’m digging this one up on my own, but GBFM’s very free to use it if he hasn’t already) “Casual fruition” (PL Bk IV l. 767). Once desouling has taken place, the woman will serve(ice) the fiat masters forever, destroying marriage and family so Bernanke and his conspirators can sit atop their inflationary empires.

And no, I have not even begun to scrape the magnificent, tragicomic depths of GBFM’s scalding, multilayered vision. GBFM uses a toolbox of commonly recurring key phrases and concepts, yet manages to deploy them in a bewilderingly fertile fashion. He would be side-splittingly funny even if he didn’t, frankly; but that he continually manages to slyly posture behind surprising new parodistic frames (one vintage spiel of fabulous intricacy involves him doing a corrected read-out of the computer screen’s revealing scroll in The Matrix) adds a sense of wonder to his replies. And I haven’t even yet reminded you that “You’ve been ——–fied !” Or however it’s being spelelt these days, lzzoozlz!!!”

lzozoozozozozoz

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Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM) June 30, 2012 at 11:07

More Shcoalrzz weigh in odn on da geeneiiusths of da GREAT boosk 4 MENZZZ lzozlloozozozozoz

http://eumaios.wordpress.com/2010/06/02/gbfm-code-the-symbology-and-terminology-of-great-books-for-men/

Neocon Butthex: symbology and terminology in the works of Great Books for Men

READ DA COMMENTSZ WHERE I COMMENT AND OF COURSE DEIFNE ME BETETR DA BFFM BETTER DAN ANAOENSZ SHCOLARZ zlzllzozlzlzzl

“Ben Bernanke : a symbol for central banks. Particularly, the rotating cabal of figureheads for the central banks.

Tucker Max : a symbol for the kind of asshole alpha women lust for, lose their innocence to, and in GBFM’s piquant phrasing, invite in for a good asscocking.

Charlotte Allen : a symbol for ostensibly good, virtuous, conservative women, especially the older ones who should know better.

Jonah Goldberg : neocon hypocrisy and crypto-feminism

“Women tame men” : the rope neocons sell men

neocon : “conservatism after being taken over by the fiat masters.” In Moldbuggian terminology, the portion of the Outer Party that has been fully and willingly co-opted by the Quakers.

butthex : sodomy, as pronounced by Barney Fag. Also, a “metaphor for what the fed does to a currency and a country.”

butthex matrix : the Western system of debt-slavery. Government of the people, for the bankers, and by the eliteclasses. Implemented by universal butthex, otherwise known as fiat money.

asscocking : butthex

tucker max is six feet tall : this peculiarly gnomic mantra, even for GBFM, illustrates the tendency of the Cathedral to glorify those who perpetrate butthex.

fiat money, fiat cash : Pieces of paper, or worse, magnetic disparities on heavily guarded platters that are asserted to have value by despotic governments.

Secretive tapings of butthex without the girls’ consent : a symbol for the exploitation of the corrupt populace by the elite. The graphic image is that of exculpation for any acts an alpha chooses to perform as he engages in butthex.

fiat masters : those who exert power by means of their control of the “money” supply.

fiat lies : propaganda, goodthink. Polite discourse.

fiat : generally applied as a modifier where only one opinion is allowed in the naked public square.

desouling of women : Arguably, GBFM uses this phrase in its literal sense.

bernankified : e.g. “bernankified chick”. Refers to the habits of self-degradation enabled by the existence of fapparently free money. The grasshopper, had the ants not demurred at supporting him over the winter.

bernankenomics : “transferring all the risk to the worker, inventor, creator, honest man, soldier; butthexing the common people who do all the physical work and labor; and inflating and deflating bubbles purposely to win friends in congress.”

weekly standard : respectable mainstream neo-conservatism engaged in the legitimization of depravity.

unbuttplugged : going off grid

vampire : usually a more or less oblique reference to Twilight’s Edward Cullen, and to the depravity in the hearts of women that allows them to lust over dangerous, yet effeminate men.

fat, cherubic faces : a physical trait of neocons who volunteer our armed forces for tough jobs, esp. Jonah Goldberg

lzozl (and variations) : Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

===
Notable Primary Sources:

* keynsian economics is to freedom what secrteiv tapings of butthex outside of wedlock is to holy matrimony

* tucker max rhyems with goldman sachs as both are into assfucking and secretive tapings of butthex which is why the weekly standard neocons never criticize their bro0thas at goldman sax and laud and repeat the pr lies of butthexing tucker max.

* Neo: What is the Fiat Feminist Fanboy tucker max-goldman sacks neocon Matrix?
Trinity: The answer is out there, Neo, and it’s looking for you like tucker max’s matrix-funded cock seeking out an anus, and it will find you if you want it to.

* one of teh reasons that charlotee allen lauds and repeats the pr lies of fiat funded and publoished tucker max who created more debt than welath with his films and films secretive tapings of butthex without the girl’s conthen is that he is anti christyian, which is why miraim grossman neocon tells young gilrs that gina tingling after undead vampire monsters is a good pursuit anmd good clean gina tingling fun

* college after being taken oevr by the fiat masters:

* butthex and welath transfer training for womenz how to transfer wealth form men to tehir dried up ginas lzozlzlzzl

* divorce and abortion are huge neocon profit centers, which also serve to dehumanize humanity, kill the family, grow the STATE, and make them all suck on the fiat teat

* yummy yummy vampire sperm in my tummy

* chances are she has had a foursome with a werewolf, vampire, anbd secretive taper of butthex and someonone from goldman sax all at the same time many times before she ever let you tocuh her boobie and buy her an engagement ring but really she is just a sting operation for ben bernanke and will pawn your ring on craigslsist and transensfer all teh alimonies to benrnke’s team of neocon goldman saxer t8ucker maxers

* the federal resevre’s takeover of women as intruments of welath transfer has ruined them for men.”

lzozozlzozozozozl buzttehettxtxxt!! lzozozzlzzozlzozzlz

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Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM) June 30, 2012 at 11:16

“The fed has determined that cats free up the woman to work fifteen hour days marketing subprime loans in short skirts as her gina dries up, and it is cheaper to import pre-grown labor from Mexico than it is to let women out of the work force to raise kids instead of abort them.”

zlozozozozoz

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Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM) June 30, 2012 at 11:20

http://foseti.wordpress.com/2010/07/30/the-feds-bill-of-rights/

The Fed’s bill of rights
From GBFM:

your daughter shall have the right 2 be assocked by thugmen of her choosing

men whose ancsetsors wrote greats books and classics of freedom shall be deemed guilty in any altercations and jailed lzozllzlzl

any attempt to discipline a girl who has a right to her own body and can let in any thugcocks as she siwshes will be a felony resulting in incacertaion

any attempt to impose deceny or standadrths on a owman above and beyond butthex will be riducled and castigated and impguned

the purpose of a man is to pay 4 thugchildren as teh fed grows the underclass and erodes freeedom

all men must pay for thugoffspring either by being cuckolded by tehri wives or cuckolded by a government which forces men to pay for chiclden that are not theirsz lozlzozzlllo

henceofrth only men who cooperate in secrteiv tapings of butthex and the fed’s deosuling progams wwill be wired fiat bernankecahs from powrful womenz ecxucitives lzozlzo

men sho suggets their are highter entiteis than getting it or putting it up the butt are to be exiled and defunded and denied bernankecash as tehir assetts are seized and given to the douchebagslututopia brave new neocon world lzozlzozlzlzllzlzlzlz

zlzoozozlzzo

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Art Vandelay June 30, 2012 at 11:20

I do. I’m 26, and a year ago I was furious. The last year has mellowed me out a lot. I realise that there isn’t much that can be done anymore.

I’m also in that age group. I feel like society has abandoned me. They are happy to take the fruits of my labor but I get nothing in return other than scorn and threats. People around here like to ask why we don’t fight back. It’s simple: I don’t owe it to this society to restore it and I have no chance against those who hold all the wealth and power. Thus, I disengage. I don’t spend, I don’t work that hard, I don’t go into debt or buy property and I design my life in a way that I can just pack up and leave for greener pastures if it becomes to unbearable. Also, if any foreign army invades I won’t pick up arms and fight them, I would desert in an instant.

While feminism failed to convince me that men and women are equal, it convinced me to treat them equally. Thus I treat every woman under the age of 70 like I would treat a weak, dishonest man until she proves herself to be a decent person. If a woman wants a favor from me she needs to do me a favor first (with men it’s different) and I don’t consider sex a favor.

You don’t even need older guys telling you how it is, because frankly most of them remain blind (just look at the likes of Bill Bennett or all the mangina feminists). You see it all the time around you. You had your run-ins with the scumbags those single moms raised, you know tons of kids whose parents got a divorce and things like that. A lot of it has entered popular culture, the “friend zone” is a mainstream term now and most men I know are just at that critical age where they finally put the pieces together. Early twenties most of your judgement is clouded by the mere prospect of having sex but there comes the day when you stop thinking with your dick or got burned enough times to see the light.

I think the most educational thing for me was hanging out with a few pimps and bouncers when I was still younger. You really learn all you need to know about women.

So I have become a cynical nihilist. A younger me would probably not have liked me.

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Zorro June 30, 2012 at 11:22

“The One” June 29, 2012 at 09:21
Zorro, You’re exaggerating quite a lot. I believe the Feminists in Saudi Arabia are twisting balls already. I see Feminism making huge inroads into Islamic society. ?

Feminists are “twisting balls” you say? In a country that a few weeks ago beheaded a man for practicing…wait for it…WITCHCRAFT?!

In a society in which women can’t even drive a fucking car on the public streets?

Twisting balls, you say?

In a society where w their faces in public, lest they get arrested by the Mutawain (religious police)?

Balls, being twisted? Did I get that right?

In Saudi Arabia they let over 80 little girls be burned to death rather than let a fireman rescue them, for fear the girls were not properly covered up and so tempt the firemen into lascivious thoughts.

Feminism…in Saudi Arabia? Ball-twisters, I think you said.

The closest thing to feminism in Saudi Arabia is a woman’s right to get on all fours and beg her husband to use an ounce of lubricant before he nails her in the ass.

In Saudi Arabia, that’s called “feminism,” Snowflake.

You “see” feminism making “huge inroads” in Saudi Arabia? From where? Your PC?

I lived there, Sugar Pop. There are more Jews in Saudi than there are feminists. Now run along and get the medication your condition clearly requires.

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Huck Finn June 30, 2012 at 11:27

“They’re just waiting for the US to hit the skids. They’ll waltz through Taiwan, SE Asia, South Korea, Philipines and perhaps even OZ – with little resistence.”

There is also a future (no time frame here) possibility that an economically weakened and politically fragmented former USA might experience a partial or complete Chinese takeover of Hawaii and Alaska. Far more drastic unexpected changes have occurred in history.

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ahamkara June 30, 2012 at 11:38

One of my facebook friends posted this picture with a caption that read, “if mothers were in charge of armies, there would be no wars”. All the comments were like, “huh?” “are you high??” etc. It was a great moment of witnessing how public perception is shifting away from female worship.

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Darryl X June 30, 2012 at 11:45

@ Zorro -

“The closest thing to feminism in Saudi Arabia is a woman’s right to get on all fours and beg her husband to use an ounce of lubricant before he nails her in the ass.”

And if I have my way, that’s the closest thing to feminism there will be in the US or anywhere else for that matter.

Actually I do see feminism creeping its way into the islamist countries. Not just from what I hear on the MSM but what colleagues of mine in Egypt and Tunisia. Both those countries had already adopted Western-style family law which is one development over the past ten years or so that inspired the Arab Spring.

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keyster June 30, 2012 at 11:47

There is also a future (no time frame here) possibility that an economically weakened and politically fragmented former USA might experience a partial or complete Chinese takeover of Hawaii and Alaska.

Russia might look towards Alaska, (with China’s backing). There’s nothing worth taking in Hawaii. We’ll still be able to defend ourselves. Everyone else will be on their own. The Pacific Rim will be the new Chinese Empire of the 21st century.

Don’t believe me?
Look at the Chinese space program under the military. They’re docking recon satellites and enemy satellite busters with laser capability up there. They’re having joint military operations with Turkey, who also happens to have US technology. They just launched
the most technologically advanced Super Carrier in history.
I could go on, but suffice to say – – China has a plan.

Former GOP Pres Candidate John Hunstman was spot on about his assessment and we didn’t want to listen.

What’s worrying America right now?
Tom Cruise and Katy Holmes are getting a divorce.
OMG!

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Darryl X June 30, 2012 at 11:54

@ keyster -

I think you overestimate the designs China has for the US. I just don’t think they give a shit about us. I think they just want to protect themselves from the US and its aggressive tendancies. I could be wrong but I think that with 1.5-billion people, they have more important things to worry about than the US. But yeah I agree the US is at a boiling point and something will happen soon.

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Darryl X June 30, 2012 at 12:24

@ Zorro -

“Feminism can absolutely lead to an economic collapse. Easily. They’re working on it right now, not that the morons realize it…”

Indeed feminism is the primary tool of the Central Banks and Governments for the past eighty or ninety years to engineer our current collapse. Collapses are cyclical. Most fiat currencies only last around eighty years. Some more and some less. This go around, the US had the global reserve currency. Next go around probably someone else. Likely not the Euro. But this is the first time in history during which feminism was implemented on such an incomprehensibly vast scale that it took on a life of its own. Representatives of the governments and Central Banks are for the most part retarded and stupid. They aren’t terribly bright people. In fact they are complete idiots. When the set out to use feminism as a way to manipulate entire populations and markets, like the idiots they are, they did not understand the Pandora’s box they were opening. They still do not. That weapon they opened up against the people of the world – feminism – they might just have opened up the plague or just had a global thermonuclear war. When children play with fire, someone’s bound to get burned.

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Eric June 30, 2012 at 12:32

Matt:
I agree with the statement that the ‘greater the government the smaller the citizen’ to a point. That can be carried out to the logical conclusion that the best government is no government at all—I don’t think that anarchy will benefit anybody.

Burckhardt pointed out years ago that a functional government, of any form, becomes corrupted when the delineations between State and Society become blurred. A good government concerns itself with policies that benefit the nation as a whole and leaves social issues to the populace to decide for themselves. Otherwise, interest groups intrude and begin legislating morality, other interest groups compete, and the system becomes too paralysed to function.

PS> I agree that we don’t need homogenity in the MRM, but GB4M comes across as a clown. I don’t read anything of substance in his posts, just gibberish and vulgarity.

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Darryl X June 30, 2012 at 12:36

@ Mr J -

Oops. I forgot to mention “bernankified” in my last post. It fits in there somewhere. Oh, and you forgot a “z” in your last post. Here it is – lol”z”

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Eric June 30, 2012 at 12:38

Zorro:
The gender polarity is broken in the Islamic countries just like it is broken in the Anglosphere. Their culture has stagnated because it’s too masculine—ours is corrupted because it’s too feminine. Islamic countries like Turkey seem to have maintained a better polarity.

Feminism is not about equality. It seeks female supremacy, which is why the feminised Anglosphere is at war with the Islamic countries.

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Darryl X June 30, 2012 at 12:54

@ Eric -

Interesting thesis. I have to think about it some. But my initial response is that the Islamic countries are not too masculine. Countries are masculine. Women rule the home but men rule everything else. So countries must be masculine – completely. The home can be feminine but that’s as far as it goes.

It’s like the camel in the tent routine. A camel asks the sheik if it can put its nose under the tent-flap because it’s so cold out and the sheik lets it. Then it asks if it can put its forelegs under the tent and the sheik lets it. Then its first hump. Next thing you know, the sheik is sleeping outside in the cold and the camel is sleeping in the tent.

Feminism is like a camel. You can’t let it’s nose under the tent because next thing you know, you’ll be sleeping outside in the cold. And like the camel it has used the excuse of chronic victimhood. And that’s where we are today.

I think the muslim community understands the dangers of feminism and does everything it can to keep it at bay. The only reason that women in Islamic countries have it so bad today (maybe) is that they have invested considerable effort the past forty to eighty years trying to take over and the Islamic countries are evidence of backlash against feminism.

That’s what I would like to see happen in the US. Feminists (particulary women) must be subjugated and punished enough for their threat to civilization and affrontery to God and offense to me so that women in the future will never try to do anything like it again.

Maybe someday, if they behave like civilized human beings again instead of like animals, I would grant them some more privileages. But given the extremes to which feminism has gone in the West, I think the islamic countries are right to suppress the female population as much as it is otherwise they would have fallen a long time ago. Maybe I’m stating your same thesis in just a different way.

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Darryl X June 30, 2012 at 13:00

@ Eric -

“A good government concerns itself with policies that benefit the nation as a whole and leaves social issues to the populace to decide for themselves.”

Totally. There is no political solution to a social problem.

I think people have been distracted by all the false flags of feminism that they have completely lost track of just how completely ineffective if not downright destructive their governments have become. (New health care bill, anyone?).

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Eric June 30, 2012 at 13:19

Darryl X;
I agree that a well-structured society men rule at large and the women rule the home. That’s where the gender polarity lies; each gender has a legal equality, but has a social sphere of influence which is within its proper domain. But in a lot of Islamic countries, men rule even the home; hence there’s no polarity, and in the Anglosphere women rule both the home and society.

I’m more optimistic about the future of the Islamic world than of the Anglosphere, though. The feminist west is trying impose itself on the Islamic cultures, the men there will create a ‘backlash’ that can’t be stopped (witness what just happened with the elections in Egypt and the growing anti-Americanism in Afghanistan). The backlash is going to force them out of their cultural stagnation but the efforts required by the men will necessarily empower women more in the home. So, I think ultimately, the Arabs are going to pull out of their decline.

The backlash in the Anglosphere is taking more the form of attrition and passive resistance. How that will play out is less certain, but the trends are showing some positive signs. What it will boil down to here is whether or not the feminist power-structure can actually enforce its will as more and more men find ways to evade their restrictions.

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Darryl X June 30, 2012 at 13:25

@ Eric -

Great analysis. Put it in a letter and send it to the President. I think his addiction to power will preclude his understanding but hope springs eternal.

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Eric June 30, 2012 at 13:29

Darryl X:
Thanks! But like most manginas, I suppose that our Fearless Leader is also a masochist at heart; so if he reads that advice he’s liable to do the opposite just he can enjoy being punished for it by the feminists! LOL

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Darryl X June 30, 2012 at 13:33

@ migu and Zorro -

Iceland is another good example of abrupt collapse. Although totally predictable if anyone did the most cursory analysis, no one did predict it and it went from having absolutely no problems (according to banksters) to complete collapse in about three hours one morning.

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Darryl X June 30, 2012 at 13:40

You’re right. My advice was bad. Malignant narcissists interpret any complaint or appeal to their sense of decency as evidence of their success in oppressing us. It only encourages them to implement more measures of oppression. Malignant narcissists are addicted to power and control. Anything that validates their power and control encourages them. We don’t want to do that. lolzlolz

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Darryl X June 30, 2012 at 13:53

@ walking in hell -

“I agree. A “collapse” is just wishful thinking on the part of men who are dreaming that some natural or supernatural power will step in and save their lives. It’s not going to happen.”

I think that God’s hand is in all of these developments. He is showing us who is on which side of the line. He is showing us who our allies are and the steps we must take together to defeat our enemy. He is also taking care of our children. I sincerely believe this. I wouldn’t be here now if I didn’t. Neither would you.

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Darryl X June 30, 2012 at 13:57

@ American -

“It may take some time, but hetero-women will also feel the sting of the perversions to our legal system that are now just attacking hetero-males, but soon the hetero-women will feel the sting.”

Yup. Once the government runs out of men for cannon fodder, it will start using women. It’s about time the women start realizing this fact.

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"The One" June 30, 2012 at 14:07

Natasha Smith claims she was sexually assaulted in Tahrir Square, Cairo, Egypt.

Lara Logan already claimed the same thing happened to her. Natasha Smith cribbed her story, down to the smallest details.

Lara Logan breaks silence on Cairo assault
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-18560_162-20058368.html

“Please God. Please make it stop.” by Natasha Smith
http://natashajsmith.wordpress.com/2012/06/26/please-god-please-make-it-stop/

Here’s a bullet list of the details both (probably false) rape claims
share in common:

* Both are journalists
* Both in Tahrir Square
* Cameras and bodyguards
* Both claim they were separated from their male protector by crowd
* Both claim they were stripped naked, groped by men
* Both claim they were fingered both vaginally
* Both implicitly claim they were fingered anally too
* Both claim they wondered if they were going to die
* Both claim to have been rescued by women wearing burqas
* Neither one has any recorded video or photographic proof
* Both claim it happened after a big political event celebrated by Muslims in Tahrir Square (Presidential Resignation, Presidential Acceptance Speech)

That’s eleven parallel details of each anecdote. What is the mathematical probability of that?

(My investigation into this is reminds me of the detective show called “The Mentalist” and the other one called “Numb3rs”.)

Just to be clear, I never believed Lara Logan in the first place. I sure as heck
don’t believe Natasha Smith with her carbon copy story.

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Darryl X June 30, 2012 at 15:53

Quick lesson in the history of our economy in the US.

About one-hundred years ago, the US established a central bank (we had another one one-hundred years before that but Andrew Jackson eliminated it). Although people and the country were borrowing money, they and the country never borrowed more than it could pay off and we were always producing more than we borrowed. During the Civil War, the central banks had offered to lend the North money but it declined. An important reason the South lost the war is that it did except loans from the central banks of Europe.

About eighty years ago, the US borrowed huge amounts of money for WWII from the central bank(s) which were funding both sides of the war. There never would have been a war if the central banks weren’t funding it or were funding other more important things that didn’t involve war. The war had much less to do with Hitler and global politics as much as it had to do with disagreement among the central banks of Europe and the US and their internal power struggles. Then, we were borrowing huge amounts of money but it was offset by huge production during war.

Then we and our gov’t (the US) realized that it could stimulate growth by borrowing huge amounts of money as long as we kept matching that borrowing with production. So that promoted our pursuit of global domination and unprovoked and unnecessary wars. But about that same time, feminism started imposing itself upon the system and as we all know, women waste more resources than men. So when women “integrated” (read: imposed themselves upon), borrowing went through the roof but production declined against borrowing. Feminists borrowed money to defeat men.

By 1970, the US gov’ts and their populations were borrowing more than they produced but not more than they could pay back in a generation if they kept up war-time-like production. However, feminists began taxing the system so much and producing nothing that by 2007, we had borrowed more than we could pay back and production had grinded to a halt such that we will never be able to pay it back. Imposition upon men had gotten so bad that even men could no longer produce and still benefit from society. So they stopped producing.

Now to reduce pressure on the system, feminists are sacrificing the lives and livelihoods of men to keep the system from collapsing. Any implication of a recovery is simply conserving financial resources and instruments by denying them to men and sacrificing men. Since feminists don’t actually work or produce anything but just move money around and shuffle papers. So they are moving money away from men to pay for the excesses of feminists.

Of course, since they aren’t producing anything, what they owe is actually still increasing and they can never sacrifice enough lives of men to pay down their debts. Slavery is an inefficient way of extracting labor and won’t work either. But try explaining this to a feminist who has never worked and doesn’t understand the concept of productivity. They only understand parasitism and manipulation. There solution is borrow more money that we already can’t pay back.

This is the extremely abbreviated version which does not consider things like the gold standard and other developments. It will be interesting to see how things play out in the next few years. I’m not optimistic.

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Matt June 30, 2012 at 17:07

“The war had much less to do with Hitler and global politics”

Not to the people of Poland, Russia, China, The Philippines, My wife’s grandfather is buried in an unmarked grave there. And please do not forget guests of honor at Auchwitz et al. That conspiracy nonsense has to stop. Not everything is the fault of the “central banks”

I agree with most of your post.

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"The One" June 30, 2012 at 17:21

Zorro, Feminists are twisting balls in Saudi Arabia. Their primary weapon is blackmail. All they have to do is threaten to expose somebody to international condemnation with a sex scandal.

Zorro, the standard was set by Mohammad. How many Muslim men are marrying female minors these days? And how young are they?

Zorro, a Muslim in Indonesia just went to prison for marrying a 12 year old girl. Very damned few Muslim men will marry a girl nowadays.

If you think the Feminists aren’t twisting balls in every country on the Arabian Peninsula, and even Afghanistan, Pakistan, Turkey and Indonesia you’re dreaming… “Snowflake”.

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keyster June 30, 2012 at 17:41

I think you overestimate the designs China has for the US. I just don’t think they give a shit about us.

I never said China has designs on the US.

I think they just want to protect themselves from the US and its aggressive tendancies.

If you define “aggressive tendencies” as the US stepping in to to defend Taiwan and other US allies in the Pacific Rim from Chinese take-over, then yes they’ll want to protect themselves. My point was they’re patiently waiting for us to weaken militarily, so we won’t bother. (Our influence is already in declined because of our financial state.)

The Chino-Russian alliance will watch us destroy ourselves internally before they begin to cause trouble abroad; the goal being global domination and financial hegomony.

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Charles Martel June 30, 2012 at 17:45

Zorro
I lived there, Sugar Pop. There are more Jews in Saudi than there are feminists. Now run along and get the medication your condition clearly requires.

migu is one of the most intelligent, grounded commenters here. This is not your web site. How about you cease the infantile shaming language and let everyone enjoy the adult discussion we have been enjoying lately.

One more thing. If this were my web site, implying that another commenter is female as a shaming tactic would result in an instant ban. Bill is too tolerant.

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Charles Martel June 30, 2012 at 17:54

Zorro
The Great Depression was a collapse. It happened in a f***ing afternoon.

Completely untrue. You’re probably thinking of the stock market crash of October 1929. Which didn’t occur in a single day either, but unfolded over the course of a couple of weeks.

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shmiggen June 30, 2012 at 18:15

It’ll be a big mess, but it’ll be exciting to witness the biggest national crisis since the Civil War. You can kind of sense this “melting” pot is about to boil over, probably between 2025 and 2030. It’s then China, sensing a weakened US, will flex its military muscle in the South China Sea and beyond. They’re just waiting for the US to hit the skids. They’ll waltz through Taiwan, SE Asia, South Korea, Philipines and perhaps even OZ – with little resistance.

I agree with this assessment, however it doesn’t have to be all bad. While the United States may not always be a unipolar superower, it will always have a preponderance of power. No armada or flotilla will ever come close to American shores in a threatening manner. China will become the center of Asia, Brazil will become the center of S America, and Europe will be a federal state. The U.S. will simply be the center of N America, the caribbean and C America. And that’s not all that bad.

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Rebel June 30, 2012 at 20:05

There have been predictions and prophecies galore…
Collapse? No collapse?

We would all like to know what the future has in store for us, don’t we?

It is better not to know.

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Poester99 June 30, 2012 at 20:11

Feminism as a doctrine is long gone; but its institutions and laws: VAWA, family courts, jails and prisons are stronger than ever.

Feminists have worked hard to grow certain institutions (only) for men and have also worked hard to pass laws to get them filled with (mostly) men to beyond capacity, especially in the United States.

They are called prisons.

Some women squeak through the sieve and get sent to prison as well but feminists are working hard on tuning the laws and retraining the judges to fix that “atrocity”. No longer any need to hide this goal, and it is already stated openly in the UK.

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Eric June 30, 2012 at 20:16

Rebel:
Though by discussing it we can prepare for it. To me the social and economic trends are showing more of a tendency towards authoritarian government than towards economic collapse, although I think we’ll see some economic upheaval too as the political situation changes. We’re moving into a political/economic/social paradigm that probably resembles Mediaeval Europe more than anything else.

Of course, there are lots of variables involved in these kinds of predictions, but I think that’s the likely scenario if things continue unimpeded on their current course.

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Omnipitron June 30, 2012 at 21:06

There WILL be a collapse, the fact that so many don’t see it is that we don’t comprehend just how much men actually contribute to society. Men…particularly White men contribute the lions share of the maintenance to society. No, I’m not a white man, I’m black but I can see where the lack of initiative of the male participants of their race can lead to issues.

I also say this as a man who was once single who eventually became a married man. If you aren’t married at this time, you have NO idea how valuable you become to society once you make the choice to OPT in.

That’s where the power of men actually lies. Men opting into society is a CHOICE…we don’t need women to live which was why patriarchy was geared so much toward men’s efforts AND men’s sacrifices. So many are forgetting that with many men forgoing marriage (even with women making the choice for them at first and then our male heroes adjusting to single life after the fact as Badger had stated recently) they are opting OUT of regular society and therefore, it’s maintenacne.

Just a question…who is Bill Bennett going to throw the torch too…just asking? Here’s another question for those who played sports…how strong would your second year team be if it was reduced in membership of the first year team by 15%?

Think about it!

So many don’t understand just how much men contribute to society, anyone doubting the collapse hasn’t the foggiest clue how important men actually are. This circus we call society only continues when men foolishly buy this song and dance hook, line and sinker. How many men are waking up to the truth now a days? What was the marriage rate again???

BTW, women, are they a net gain to the economy or a net loss? Can they sufficiently take a man’s place in the economic hierarchy or not? If they can (which they can’t) then perhaps doubters have a leg to stand on. If they can’t…(which we should know) then we have an idea where our future lies.

I’m telling you this as a married man…my wife wouldn’t have the current life she did if I DIDN’T get married. Yet I cannot endorse married life as it currently exists now to most men. Men are the ones who make this current society what it is and enables the current forms of innovation. Once it stops, and men opt out (it doesn’t take 100% of men btw!!!), then it stops!! We need to realize once and for all that Marlow’s Hierarchy of needs can also work backwards as well as forwards.

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"The One" June 30, 2012 at 21:12

“Mohammad Jihad! Durka durka durka!”

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Poester99 June 30, 2012 at 21:34

There are other countries beside America. If you don’t graduate innovative young men, there are plenty of Asian countries that will. Feminism could end America’s technical dominance.

It depends how they will apply Title IX to STEM programs.
They’re just starting to get ready to go full force. I looked all over the internet and all I could find were reports saying how good title ix has been for college athletics, so it should all be great!

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The Whammer June 30, 2012 at 21:41

@slwerner
Anyway, that’s my explanation for what “Gender-raunch” is really all about. It’s just my opinion

This is the internet ,and everything he writes may be complete bullshit. We don’t know if he was ever accused of anything or what ulterior motive he (she?) has for using this gender raunch nonsense over and over again. It always seemed odd to me that knowing he was always getting downvoted for using this term that he would still continue to use it.
And yes, diverting attention away from the individual evildoer and onto some nebulous “gender raunch” society does seem like something a female or mangina would do.

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The Whammer June 30, 2012 at 23:35

@Rob

“Boomers looking to trade off all that equity and invest it somewhere safe to get a retirement income… but where, at 2% interest? There’s gonna be a lot of angry millionaire boomers out there when they only get an extra $20,000/yr for being a millionaire instead of the $60,000-80,000″

That’s not correct. Most people who retire are in their 60′s. Now, what is the average life expectancy? 75 for a man and 80 for a female? Well, those are the ages that insurance companies will be using when they calculate annuities. You take that $1m and put it all into a lifetime annuity. The company figures that the average man will live to 75 and even if they project only a 2% interest on the money they’re holding you’d likely get about $100k in income and if you’re one of these people who lives to 90 you’ll make out even better.
These boomers who have a million dollar property could also take a reverse mortgage where they get money every month from a company so they’ll live very well. Of course when they die the bank will own the property to get their money back plus interest and the remainder will go to the heir. So the boomer with the propery will live very well and besides no one lives on SS anyway, that’s just a supplement. Even without it if the gov’t defaults they will live well. And who cares after you’re dead what’s left over for your heirs :)

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Wally June 30, 2012 at 23:51

It would be interesting to quantify to what extent affirmative femi-action has contributed to the downfall of the American and other western economies. With women providing near zero in innovation and having poor worker management and team management skills, there has been a lot of mandatory deadwood dragging businesses down over the last few decades. Because Human Resources departments are nearly 100% feminized across the board, good innovative professional men find it difficult to survive in their catty petty vindictive femi-environments.
I cannot quantify and can only provide anecdotal evidence but it seems to me that feminism in addition to destroying western families has also been behind the destruction of western business life.
Here in New Zealand women predominate in all positions of government authority too and have been ineffective, resorting to a lot of bullying behaviour to cover up their failures.

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Robert in Arabia July 1, 2012 at 00:18

The use of feminazis as a term of opprobrium is politically correct nonsense and shows that the person using the term is an ignorant indoctrinated sucker or a member of the tribe.

The number of oppressed Saudi women I have met in past decade is zero. Two of the physicians who have treated me are Saudi women.

Islam forbids men to wear gold jewelry. At a nearby mall there are more than forty stores selling gold jewelry. We have very big malls.

Consider the situation of the (rare) Saudi men with four wives and twelve daughters. Who do you think is really in charge at home?

Consider the situation of the Saudi man who beats a wife with ten brothers who are honor bound to avenge their sister. He will not be a happy camper for long.

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The Whammer July 1, 2012 at 00:59

P.S. there’s no income tax on annuities except for the small interest part since mostof it is just your own money being paid back in installments.
If the government really needed money to pay for boomer benefits they could just raise the upper tax brackets to 90% (as it was in the early 60′s)on the Gen X and Y’s. You make $100k then you get $10k. You can live on that with perhaps 5 roommates. It will be fun too, just like living in the dorm. :) And I doubt if they’ll be any revolts because you’ve pretty much been made into an automaton with all of those drugs ( mother’s little helpers)you took at an early age while the brain was developing plus the constant boobtube watching and video game playing.
Yeah, those foxy grampas and grandmas figured this all out before you were born :) It’s not like you have the Will or any testosterone left in you to do anything about it, like those Boomers in the 60′s who took over Columbia and barricaded themselves in the President’s ofiice for a week drinking his booze and stealing his files to use to blackmail him with. Hmm, no computers, cell phones etc. but yet they managed to compile masses of information. Weren’t even afraid of the cops who were going to kick their arses. Now, do you wimpy Gen Y’s believe that you’re going to beat people like that?
In addition to that there was no father in the house for you which completely pussified you. The Patriarch is there to discipline the wife and children and keep them from running amok. He’s not going to allow some wacko man hating feminist school “psychologist” or quack to feed his 8yo dangerous mind numbing drugs just because the kid is acting like a normal kid and the wife is too lazy to deal with it. You rarely saw obese kids either when there was a Patriarch in the house. ” Hey honey, I noticed that little Beavis looks like a butterball so what the fuck are you doing”? !! OK, Beavis is going to military school and after you pack your bags I’m leaving you at your parents, I’ve decided I don’t need a wife.

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The Whammer July 1, 2012 at 01:11

Consider the situation of the (rare) Saudi men with four wives and twelve daughters. Who do you think is really in charge at home?

As I understand it, you can only take another wife if the first one is barren. Many of these customs go back before there were medical tests to determine who was infertile, the man or the woman and they didn’t understand that it may be the man who was sterile. I guess that after 4 tries they sort of suspected that it was the man’s fault and that was the limit on females that he could try to impregnate.
Infertility was grounds for divorce in many US States, although as I said they didn’t realise that it was the man who was at fault 1/2 the time. At least in Arabis the man had to take care of the 1st wife so females there did have it better.

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Eric July 1, 2012 at 01:21

Whammer:
Yes, that’s another thing about the ‘collapse.’ I’m 40 now, since I was in high school, I’ve heard non-stop about how people would ‘take to the streets’ and demand change. Well, they’re down to letting themselves being scanned in the nude at airports—still waiting for the ‘Uprising.’

‘You’ve pretty much been made into an automaton with all those drugs &c.’
The other side of the coin—I’m not sure that an uprising from the current generation is anything desirable, judging by what I’ve seen of most of them.

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freebird July 1, 2012 at 03:55

Extra credit for the shaming language.
IE:false allegations of “female or mangina”
Well you have assimilated the lingo well,even a monkey learns by trial and error I suppose.H8tr

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JoshtheAspie July 1, 2012 at 04:23

As far as the 90% top income rate goes when it comes to taxation getting the government more money, this is in many ways a myth.

First of all, the effective tax rate wasn’t nearly equal to the top-line tax rate. There were far more deductions, etc, total than there are now. We have simply flattened the tax structure since that point, bringing the top-line tax rate down in the direction of the effective tax rate, and giving smaller rewards/penalties for behavior modification.

Further, when you increase taxes, the behavior of those being taxed changes as a result of the penalty.

If you have a 0% tax rate, and a 100% tax rate, either way you make no money from taxes. In the first case you make nothing because people keep all that they earn. In the second, people have no incentive to work, and are only forced to work at the point of a gun – welcome to communism, worked out great, didn’t it?

One or more points of maximum return occur at some point between 0%, and 100%. Where these points are will vary over time as the population, and it’s dynamics change, so we can’t exactly permanently have “the one true tax rate” that we can refine the tax rate toward, even if our only goal is to maximize tax revenue for the government (which it should not be).

However, if we could mystically magically know which of the maximum revenue points to pick, and we wanted to pick one, the most moral to pick would be the one where people are taxed the least. Taxation is theft by the government, permitted by the public in order to fund works that are necessary for the sake of the good of the community. This includes things such as the common defence, thus preventing other countries from taking us over, and making us slaves. It is a necessary evil, and as such, one goal should be to minimize this evil.

Even neglecting the idea of minimizing necessary evils, the idea that people would bust their humps for no additional appreciable gain is ludicrous. As a result, the 90% tax rate, if it actually existed as fact, rather than as an illusion, would almost certainly be a far distance from any of the maximum revenue points on the curve.

I’ve given a more extended version of this spiel before, but this is getting away from a comment sized post, and more toward an article sized one, so I’ll stop here.

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The Whammer July 1, 2012 at 05:58

Is this “freebird” (free girl) the gender raunch dummy posting under 1 of his 5 ID’s? He seems to get very upset when ever anyone criticises him.

“More lies to divide,this will never happen”

Anything that happenedin the past can just as well happen today. 90% top rates were in effect in the 60′s and I guess it was for paying off war bonds or debts or something. Even when Reagan took office as recently as 1981 the top tax rates were 50%. Top rates today are 35% so they can easily go to Carter levels again.

“Let’s have a flat tax!
No? You don’t like that idea do you?”

It would be better than the graduated tax we have today but still unfair to the more competent since someone making 10x as much would still pay 10x the tax.
We don’t need a flat rate tax but a real flat tax. Every citizen whether working or not pays a flat tax of $10k a year so that a man,wife and one kid would pay $30k. If you don’t have the money then it becomes a debt so that if you don’t pay for 10 years you owe $100k. Why should the taxpayers and especially the higher income payers have to carry the non payers when it’s the lower 1/2 who use up all of the benefits. Even at the local level it’s the people, like bachelors, who pay real estate and school taxes that subsidise other people’s kids. At $15k a head, someone with 3 kids is costing $45k a year and I can assure you that they pay nowhere near that sum.
Unions need to be eliminated in a free market as well. If what you’re doing is in demand you”ll have a job and will earn its market value. The problem is there are more people than jobs in certain areas like teachers so the unions push for things like smaller classes so that its members all get a job whether it’s necessary or not while still pushing for higher pay and pensions. Teaching is relatively easy which is why there is a surplus of teachers. The same with cop unions. There’s no need for these large police forces
1/2 the working people pay no income tax

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Darryl X July 1, 2012 at 06:23

@ Eric -

“To me the social and economic trends are showing more of a tendency towards authoritarian government than towards economic collapse…”

This result is also what I’ve figured will happen too. But it amounts to a collapse. Its expense will just be paid by men either with their slavery or lives or both. It may not be a “collapse” but amounts to that. I don’t see a revolution happening, especially as you’ve pointed out the character of the Millenials – I just don’t see them doing anything to promote freedom. And the number of men in older generations either are taken care of (Baby Boomers) or are too small to really do anything (Gen X).

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Darryl X July 1, 2012 at 06:26

@ shmiggen -

“No armada or flotilla will ever come close to American shores in a threatening manner.”

I’m not worried about what other countries can do to us more than I am worried about what my own country has, is and will do.

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Darryl X July 1, 2012 at 06:29

@ keyster -

“My point was they’re patiently waiting for us to weaken militarily, so we won’t bother. (Our influence is already in declined because of our financial state.)”

Yup. I agree.

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The Whammer July 1, 2012 at 06:41

Art Vandelay June 30, 2012 at 11:20

I do. I’m 26, and a year ago I was furious. The last year has mellowed me out a lot. I realise that there isn’t much that can be done anymore.

I’m also in that age group. I feel like society has abandoned me.

I’m sure that every 26 yo from every age has felt that.

They are happy to take the fruits of my labor but I get nothing in return other than scorn and threats. People around here like to ask why we don’t fight back.

The real reason is because you can’t and don’t have the power.

It’s simple: I don’t owe it to this society to restore it and I have no chance against those who hold all the wealth and power. Thus, I disengage. I don’t spend, I don’t work that hard,

You’re just some weak powerless guy who can’t make any real money and couldn’t “restore” anything so you want to run away.

I don’t go into debt or buy property and I design my life in a way that I can just pack up and leave for greener pastures if it becomes to unbearable. Also, if any foreign army invades I won’t pick up arms and fight them, I would desert in an instant.

If any army invaded they’d put you into some forced labour camp lol And you don’t go into debt because no one will lend you any money. Go find some greener pastures but where would that be? In most other countries you’d need higher qualifications just to get what would be considered an ordinary job in the US.

If a woman wants a favor from me she needs to do me a favor first (with men it’s different) and I don’t consider sex a favor.

What sort of favour could you do for a female? You have something she wants? I doubt it.

You don’t even need older guys telling you how it is, because frankly most of them remain blind (just look at the likes of Bill Bennett or all the mangina feminists). You see it all the time around you. You had your run-ins with the scumbags those single moms raised, you know tons of kids whose parents got a divorce and things like that. A lot of it has entered popular culture, the “friend zone”

Apparently you’ve been put in the zone yourself which is why you’re sexually frustrated.

is a mainstream term now and most men I know are just at that critical age where they finally put the pieces together.

No one puts anything together in their 20′s so stop deluding yourself. 20 somethings don’t even have a clue and if you get older you’ll just laugh at this trivial stuff you thought was important. You have no idea what can really happen to you in life.

Early twenties most of your judgement is clouded by the mere prospect of having sex but there comes the day when you stop thinking with your dick or got burned enough times to see the light.

So you’re still not getting any?

I think the most educational thing for me was hanging out with a few pimps and bouncers when I was still younger. You really learn all you need to know about women.

So you learned everything about females from pimps? lol

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Matt July 1, 2012 at 08:15

“So you learned everything about females from pimps? lol”

He learned more from them about females, than I did from my parents. He knows more at 26 than I sure did.
He may not know it all, but give him credit where it is due!

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suspectum July 1, 2012 at 08:45

@ The Wammer
typical shaming language and unsubstantiated accusations of sexual frustrations is all you have to offer? Why don’t you speculate about his penis size next?

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Charles Martel July 1, 2012 at 08:46

You just can’t help yourself, can you, Avenger/Whammer?

The Whammer
………..does seem like something a female or mangina would do.

The Whammer
I doubt if they’ll be any revolts because you’ve pretty much been made into an automaton with all of those drugs ( mother’s little helpers)you took at an early age while the brain was developing plus the constant boobtube watching and video game playing.

The Whammer
Now, do you wimpy Gen Y’s believe that you’re going to beat people like that? In addition to that there was no father in the house for you which completely pussified you.

The Whammer
Is this “freebird” (free girl) the gender raunch dummy posting under 1 of his 5 ID’s? He seems to get very upset when ever anyone criticises him.

The Whammer
You’re just some weak powerless guy who can’t make any real money and couldn’t “restore” anything so you want to run away.

The Whammer
What sort of favour could you do for a female? You have something she wants? I doubt it.

The Whammer
Apparently you’ve been put in the zone yourself which is why you’re sexually frustrated.

The Whammer
So you’re still not getting any?

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Anonymous age 70 July 1, 2012 at 08:47

@Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM) June 29, 2012 at 11:23

Thanks for showing what you think of all old men, thus joining the feminists in their hatred of all men. Good job. Please carry on.

I say again it is hard to keep good men down. Just because someone does not share exactly your views engage in personal insults, even extremely boorish insults based solely on age. Thus has gone the men’s movement for 45 years, and thus it will go for the next 45 years.

Men are individually doing something very effective about feminist attacks. The fact they are not matching your personal view of what they should do does not mean they are doing nothing. The marriage strike is working, which is why the attacks on men’s boards.

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Anonymous age 70 July 1, 2012 at 08:52

>>as the men’s movement
is dishonoring its true fathers
and if the men do not honor their fathers
how can they expect
the world
to honor them?

Same writer as my last posting. Did you understand what you wrote there in reference to the insults aimed solely at my age?

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Anonymous age 70 July 1, 2012 at 08:55

@TiredGuy June 29, 2012 at 11:46

>>I’m a farmer by trade, studying business so that I can build up my business acumen.

I intend no criticism whatsoever of anything you said. I just want to make sure you know there are business courses available online, free, no credit but same content. You get the business acumen without the snarky women.AC

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Charles Martel July 1, 2012 at 08:57

migu
Okay gentlemen here is what I define as a collapse. 98% of the world’s population dies within five years. If you survive that, then you are sitting pretty, you’ll be able to do whatever you want.

A bit extreme. I define “collapse” as a total collapse of society’s institutions, including government and law enforcement. The central idea being that authority now comes only from the barrel of a gun and society is ruled by warlords. That kind of collapse is rare but has been seen before. The two examples I cited earlier were the collapse of the Western Roman Empire and the Thirty Years War.

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Anonymous age 70 July 1, 2012 at 09:02

@Cynical Youth June 29, 2012 at 12:50

>>My generation really doesn’t have to DO anything for the system to collaspe in on itself other than not get ourselves caught in its teeth.

Brilliant comment. Expresses flawlessly the heart of MGTOW.

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Rob July 1, 2012 at 09:13

“That’s not correct. Most people who retire are in their 60′s. Now, what is the average life expectancy? 75 for a man and 80 for a female? Well, those are the ages that insurance companies will be using when they calculate annuities. You take that $1m and put it all into a lifetime annuity. The company figures that the average man will live to 75 and even if they project only a 2% interest on the money they’re holding you’d likely get about $100k in income and if you’re one of these people who lives to 90 you’ll make out even better.

These boomers who have a million dollar property could also take a reverse mortgage where they get money every month from a company so they’ll live very well. Of course when they die the bank will own the property to get their money back plus interest and the remainder will go to the heir. So the boomer with the propery will live very well and besides no one lives on SS anyway, that’s just a supplement. Even without it if the gov’t defaults they will live well. And who cares after you’re dead what’s left over for your heirs” — The Whammer

Heh, you are talking about risky speculation schemes here, similar to Ponzi Schemes, rather than sound investing.

Insurance companies are basing their pay-outs on the returns they can get elsewhere in the market. Since investing in T-Bills and other such “safe” instruments are not available to them, they are forced into riskier speculation in order to maintain their desired rate of return… thus, the importance to keep the stock market artificially propped up and the need to create elaborate schemes such as Credit Default Swaps and the whole Derivatives crapola… because there are no “safe” places to invest anymore when interest rates far under-perform inflation rates.

Also, reverse mortgages only work in a scheme where house prices continually rise. Nobody is going to give a reverse mortgage on a home worth $300,000 if they suspect that interest rates will rise from 2% to 8% in the next decade because that very same house will likely lose 2/3 of its equity.

In a normal economy, one should be able to invest their money at a rate that beats inlfation by approximately 5%. The government currently lies to us that the CPI is only rising by 2-3% a year – a complete lie. What they do is take off everything we need to buy when it goes up (like gas, heating for homes, and food – which have all skyrocketed) and they leave on things that have dropped in price because of cheaper prices coming from globalization – like TV’s being 1/3 the price they were 15 years ago, computers etc. (Yes, we need TV’s, but heating and food don’t matter). The true rate of inflation today, if we measured it the way we did 30 years ago, is somewhere between 8-11%.

This all happened in the 1970′s and 1980′s. And the government will end up having the same tough choices to make. Inflation ran so rampant, that people didn’t want to hold onto dollars and so bailed out of them into hard assets like precious metals or safer “soft assets” like foreign currencies. The only way the US could entice the world back into using US dollars again was to raise interest rates to about 5% above the rate of inflation – Thus we seen those 20% interest rates on the long-bond back in the 1980′s… and correspondingly, the housing boom which was fueled by low interest rates, got smacked into the dirt because when people had to renew their mortgage, their payments doubled, if not tripled… since home values are based on what mortgage payments are (and not the intrisic worth of the top price of the home), people lost equity hand over fist… a house bought for $200,000 at 5% is about $1,000/month… but that same mortgage at 20% brings the payment to around $4,000/month, and correspondingly, since the average guy can only afford the $1,000/month payment, the house values dropped accordingly… from $200,000 down to $50,000 (or to around $1,000/mo again), so the payments on the same home again corresponded with what people could afford from their wages. From that low point in home ownership in the early 1980′s, we have had a continual three decade long lowering of interest rates which has fueled the rising real-estate markets… thus why realtors are saying you can never go wrong buying real-estate. It only seems that way because interest rates have been dropping for decades, never rising. That game is done now.

How much lower can interest rates go – especially in a high inflation scenario? The interest rates MUST rise to reasonable levels again or people won’t save money but rather spend it before it becomes worth less in the future. If people don’t save money, there is no money to invest, and when there is no money to invest, things like business ventures which provide solid jobs never get started.

It’s a big Ponzi Scheme… and thus why you see so many elaborate financial schemes based upon risky speculation, all trying to create a suitable return in our low interest environment.

You should be able to take your money to the bank – whether it is gold based with zero inflation rate and get a straight 5% return on your holdings with virtually zero risk, or you ought to be able to invest your fiat dollars in secured investments returning 5% higher than the real inflation rate, whatever that may be. This is basic economic principle, which encourages saving, which then encourages sound investment, and in turn creates jobs and a prospering economy. The way you are discussing is how to rid yourself of your capital, and is what has been happening over the past decades. It is ultimately unsustainable and only leads to more poverty. Party till the credit card is maxed, and figure it all out then.

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Anonymous age 70 July 1, 2012 at 09:15

>>@Charles Martel June 29, 2012 at 14:07

>>There’s lots of loose talk about economic collapse and the end of feminism but I’m pretty sure the cure would be far worse than the disease.

I can not argue with that, though the men whose lives have been destroyed by c/s and not seeing their kids, etc., may not agree with us.

On the other hand, I am not sure I would call it a cure. It is more like an inevitable result of feminism.

And, yes, I expect a long time of suffering after the collapse. Not just a few years.

One would think that humans would eventually figure things out after the zillionth time feminists destroy major civilizations.

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Anonymous age 70 July 1, 2012 at 09:20

>>@Charles Martel June 29, 2012 at 14:07

>>If you think a total economic collapse is coming and you want to survive it, preparations that you make by yourself are almost totally pointless.

You have just described the men’s movement for the last 45 years. Most activists ended up struggling alone, under constant attack by men who themselves did nothing.

I have the saying: Another name for one man army is cadaver.

The thing that is working, though, today, is the large number of men who are simply walking away from marriage with all its negatives.

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@ Anonymous age 70 -

“I can not argue with that, though the men whose lives have been destroyed by c/s and not seeing their kids, etc., may not agree with us.”

For myself who has not seen his children in more than five years (and really doesn’t want to because they have been raised by a pair of adulterers and have had their minds poisonedto hate me) and who owes so much child support that I live so far below the threshold for poverty that I can’t even see it from where I am, the collapse has already happened. It’s happening one man at a time. I think this is by design so no one will notice and resist. But if there were an overall collapse, it may or may not be worse than the cure, but it still couldn’t happen fast enough. Sorry for the rest of you who may not be doing so bad and would be adversely affected by it, but it wouldn’t affect me one bit. So, I’ve been a strong advocate of one so that this broken system can reset. Not that it will.

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Darryl X July 1, 2012 at 09:42

@ Rob –

Great post.

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Anonymous age 70 July 1, 2012 at 09:44

@Eric June 29, 2012 at 19:27

Zorro:
The educational system at all levels is under the feminist thumb. To answer Anon70′s question: how do men still succeed under it? They don’t. They succeed in spite of it.

That is what I intended to say. Sorry for not making it clear. It is hard to keep a good man down.

@Eric June 29, 2012 at 21:56

>>…Didn’t they learn anything from what happened to McCain here in 2008? [Mexico elections today?]

I really don’t follow politics here, as such. I can be deported for saying one word of opinion on Mexican politics, if the wrong person hears me.

I do follow men/women relations, and no political party can stop cold the male control of the society. Why? Because Mexico does not have the substitute husband, the government check, for women who don’t want a man around. No political party can make it happen, because there is no more money to be had. They are running Pemex, the nationalized petroleum company, on dry already.

Also, be very hesitant to believe news reports in the US. A few months ago, an idiot female writer for NYT said the age of consent in Mexico for girls is 12. She was reporting on the 10 year old girl in the city of Puebla who had just given birth. Actually, the age of consent is 18 in virtually all states. But, the system is different. Even Nifong could not press criminal charges against a man having sex with a 12 year old girl without her parents or her asking him to.

My point is not age of consent as much as stupid American journalists who have no understanding of Mexican history nor culture.

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Keyster July 1, 2012 at 10:05

This is where you have to build the principles of justice from, not from “It’s unfair he was born with money.” Or in modern parlance, “Let’s level the playing field.”

The new secular-progressive mantra – “THAT’S SOCIAL DARWINISM!” Precisely. They depend on stupidity to advance their Socialist agenda through a populist narrative – – and it appears to be working well. Bonus points if you can make it rhyme. Note how “The War on Women” neatly rolls off the tongue. “The Affordable Health Care Act” – – it’s Newspeak incarnate.

My neighbor exclaimed to me yesterday how happy he was we’re finally getting “free healthcare”. When I told him he’d still have to pay for insurance, he was shocked. He said he couldn’t afford it. When I told him if he DOESN’T buy health care insurance the government would tax him $700, he said I was full of shit. “That’s more than my tax refund every year! They won’t do that!”

Democrats DEPEND on ignorance and BUZZ phrasology. As soon as Republicans start getting into facts and figures they lose the debate.

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Art Vandelay July 1, 2012 at 10:08

The Whammer, it would be far easier if you would put your citations in <blockquote> and </blockquote> so one could actually read what you write. Note that I’m not an American, and the “not getting laid” bullshit is getting old. As this is anonymous I could claim anything about money and sex so what’s the point in arguing with you? Thanks for trolling.

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Darryl X July 1, 2012 at 10:13

A migu -

Thanks for trying to quantify / qulalify a collapse. Probably helps to define terms. Though I think your definition is extreme. When Iceland “collapsed” value of its currency dropped by more than one-half in three hours and the only reason in didn’t go completely to zero is they closed the banks and over the next few days rapid and emergency measures were implemented to preserve what little value there remained. Standard of living in Iceland since then has dropped precipitously. To hear stories about it, the number of those starving and homeless has increased some but not like it would in other countries because its a small island with a tiny population. Iceland is a feminist police state (which is why its banking system bottomed out in the first place – too many women wasting too much money and not investing enough and too many banksters pandering to them and who didn’t understand anything about investment) like other Scandananvian countries and the men are pretty beaten down there. Alcoholism has always been beyond epidemic and has only increased since. The sex-trade among women has sky-rocketed and all the problems associated with it. Men are slaves in Iceland. They are more slaves now. And the “collapse” was completely avoidable. And another important quality of a “collapse” is how long there will be a reduction in standard of living. In the US, the standard of living is still declining and will continue for some time. It will never increase. Ever. If you look at the number of people on food stamps and receiving other kinds of public assistance and the standard of living of the men who are paying for that public assistance, then you can see that the US economy is basically in collapse. Health care is virtually unavailable for large sectors of the population. Food prices are increasing at a real 12% a year (that’s not like years past where we might have had 15% inflation but 7% GDP to offset it). Our current inflation is the worst its been in the US in history and it still isn’t considered hyper-inflation which is coming. When that happens and people are starving in the streets and can’t get any health care, then there will be riots. That’s coming probably sooner than later. I don’t think you’ll see 98% of the population die as you’ve recommended to qualify for collapse but you will see mortality rates increase dramatically and standard of living drop precipitously. Basically the worst parts of the Bible are on the way. They’s already started. The rest will be here soon. Not to sound too apocalyptic, but that’s what happens when you let women run a country.

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Anonymous age 70 July 1, 2012 at 10:37

Darryl X July 1, 2012 at 09:39

I once did not see my kids for so long I did not even know them when they got off the plane.

I was not financially destroyed by c/s like men today are. I see interest rates for unpaid c’s runs up to 15%, which all by itself justifies anything that men chose to do to society. Anything.

Yet men keep jumping into the marital bed.

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Smith July 1, 2012 at 10:37

Right on, Migu.

I just finished reading an article in Fortune magazine from April 1936
explaining the explosive growth of Pan American Airways during the
period 1927-1935.

“Thus an airline that was flying a single 251-mile route at the end of
1928 found itself the owner of a network totaling more than 12,000
miles at the end of 1929.

“The pace continued into 1930. The acquisition [of another airline]
which was completed in 1930, gave Pan Am some of the best flying
equipment of that day and also opened the way for a complete cir-
cuit of South America…that was finally accomplished in 1931.”

As to the “crash:”
“But these tales [of Black Tuesday October 29, 1929] are only part of the truth. There were still no bank or major business failures; the suicide stories were grossly exaggerated (in fact, the suicide rate was down in this period.)

“Stock news passed from the front pages by mid-November. Prices rallied from their lows. Stocks of office equipment manufacturers,
airlines, department stores, and steel companies generally did well in 1929, ending the year with advances [!].

“AT&T scored a gain in 1929 (29.5 points), as did American Can (12.5
points), General Electric (22 points) and Standard Oil of New Jersey (11.125 points).

“To a generation raised believing that the 1929 panic led to the Great Depression, …the fairly calm economic atmosphere of early 1930
seem[s] strange. The Antarctic exploration of Richard Byrd, and not
the October crash was singled out as the most important news story of 1929 by the ‘New York Times’ editors in early 1930.”*

*all from “The Great Bull Market – Wall Street in the 1920s.
author Robert Sobel copyright 1968, pp. 139-146.

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Keyster July 1, 2012 at 10:51

It should be said though that this has only been possible because the country is so small.

Tell Nobel Prize winning economist (and Democrat Hack) Paul Krugman that.
He thinks Iceland’s response should be the model for Europe and the US….as “PROOF austerity doesn’t work!” As if scale (and culture) has no relevance whatsoever.

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Darryl X July 1, 2012 at 10:52

Thanks, Martel. I know they blew off the creditors. Still, the entire economy for the most part was debt based. If they aren’t getting anymore credit then what replaced it?

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Poester99 July 1, 2012 at 11:11

You’re behind the curve. Iceland’s new government has blown off the foreign creditors of Iceland’s busted private banks and forgiven the mortgage debt in whole or in part of many of Iceland’s homeowners.

It should be said though that this has only been possible because the country is so small.

and instituted VAWA like female entitlement laws.
We’ll see how that goes.

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Charles Martel July 1, 2012 at 11:18

Darryl X
Thanks, Martel. I know they blew off the creditors.

OK.

If they aren’t getting anymore credit then what replaced it?

For the most part the credit has been replaced with the asset value of those now mostly debt-free Icelandic homes.

Iceland has pulled off an enormous coup at the expense of the shareholders, the bondholders and the account holders of those busted Icelandic banks.

The capital structure of the Icelandic banks (equity and debt) was mostly foreign money. The banks’ customers were mostly foreign, primarily British. So the Icelandic banks sucked in a lot of foreign money, lent it to Icelanders and then the banks collapsed. The new Icelandic government told all the foreigners, who have now so generously given houses to many Icelanders, to shove it.

As I said before, this has only worked for Iceland because Iceland is so small and because the UK is so militarily impotent it lacks the will and the capability to invade Iceland and take its money back.

Bottom line – there’s been an enormous transfer of foreign wealth to Icelanders and I expect there’ll be an economic boom in Iceland as a result.

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Darryl X July 1, 2012 at 11:28

@ Martel -

Wow. A lot changes in a few years. I understand that they’ve sucked in a lot of foreign capital and told every one to shove it. And I understand that the asset value of debt-free homes bought by England. But the currency of Iceland is still dependent upon the value of the Euro and the Pound and the Dollar through imports and other mechanisms. And Iceland does rely upon imports a lot. England doesn’t have to got to war with Iceland, they just have to stop sending them stuff. Doesn’t Iceland still have to produce something to have a viable currency. I’m so confused about the global economy.

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Darryl X July 1, 2012 at 11:34

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Oh, I keep forgetting that Iceland is a huge tourist destination. And they haven’t let any of their own currency out of the country. Among other stop gaps. Still, seems like a precarious situation.

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Poester99 July 1, 2012 at 11:37

Militarily, Iceland is an American “Protectorate”
So even less of a chance of foreign invasion, currently.

However to pay for universal health care. Universal health care generally expands to consume ALL resources, at least how it is implemented in Canada, because of the perception that there is endless money so everybody feeds at the trough with little or no thought of the big picture. There is no pressure to reduce cost because there is no reason for most stakeholders to do so. (As a technologist I’ve always wondered why medical technology is the only technology that is becoming vastly more expensive instead of less, as time goes by, like all other areas of technology, or even radically less expensive yet largely equivalent veterinary medical technology)

The US will have to restructure their health care restructuring, shrink the military to nothing or go bankrupt. They might go bankrupt anyways, and I suspect that that is Obama’s plan B. If he loses and Romney tries to fix the structural problems, they’ll be rioting in the streets, so he may win big by losing.

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Poester99 July 1, 2012 at 11:42

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Oh, I keep forgetting that Iceland is a huge tourist destination. And they haven’t let any of their own currency out of the country. Among other stop gaps. Still, seems like a precarious situation.

They haven’t been able to stabilize their currency. Because of back door nationalization of all of that foreign wealth, few will accept Icelandic Krona at any reasonable price, so they are trying an end run around that by adopting a foreign currency, like the Canadian Dollar. They are currently in not so “secret” negotiations with the Bank of Canada.

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Migu July 1, 2012 at 10:52

Cliché, not lichen

Aritificial Intelligence lol

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The Whammer July 1, 2012 at 12:47

Whammer, You seem to get defensive when i Use the term “Gender-Raunch community

Actually I don’t give a damn what some nonentity on one of the million blogs on the Net writes. You’re projecting. What were you doing before the internet? Hanging out in the basement?

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The Whammer July 1, 2012 at 12:57

@ Great Books Boob-why do you keep talking about these books that everyone has read at grammar school? It’s time to move on kid. You may want to actually get out of the basement and attend Uni. Don’t worry, the girls won’t bite.

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Darryl X July 1, 2012 at 13:04

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Iceland pursuing the Canadistan dollar. Very interesting development. I was not aware of this. Thanks for the info. Any reference and further discussion anywhere that I can consult? Even though it’s a “secret” LOLz.

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The Whammer July 1, 2012 at 13:06

Heh, you are talking about risky speculation schemes here, similar to Ponzi Schemes, rather than sound investing

You read what I wrote so why do you keep arguing? If you don’t understand it then get an education in insurane, annuities and reverse mortgages.
And btw, what is your net worth? A 40 yo man in the USor UK who doesn’t have a net worth of at least a few million is a loser and I just ignore what they have to say. No one takes advice of pays attention to losers writing nonsense on the Net.

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Art Vandelay June 30, 2012 at 11:20

I do. I’m 26, and a year ago I was furious. The last year has mellowed me out a lot. I realise that there isn’t much that can be done anymore.

I’m also in that age group. I feel like society has abandoned me.

I’m sure that every 26 yo from every age has felt that.

They are happy to take the fruits of my labor but I get nothing in return other than scorn and threats. People around here like to ask why we don’t fight back.

The real reason is because you can’t and don’t have the power.

It’s simple: I don’t owe it to this society to restore it and I have no chance against those who hold all the wealth and power. Thus, I disengage. I don’t spend, I don’t work that hard,

You’re just some weak powerless guy who can’t make any real money and couldn’t “restore” anything so you want to run away.

I don’t go into debt or buy property and I design my life in a way that I can just pack up and leave for greener pastures if it becomes to unbearable. Also, if any foreign army invades I won’t pick up arms and fight them, I would desert in an instant.

If any army invaded they’d put you into some forced labour camp lol And you don’t go into debt because no one will lend you any money. Go find some greener pastures but where would that be? In most other countries you’d need higher qualifications just to get what would be considered an ordinary job in the US.

If a woman wants a favor from me she needs to do me a favor first (with men it’s different) and I don’t consider sex a favor.

What sort of favour could you do for a female? You have something she wants? I doubt it.

You don’t even need older guys telling you how it is, because frankly most of them remain blind (just look at the likes of Bill Bennett or all the mangina feminists). You see it all the time around you. You had your run-ins with the scumbags those single moms raised, you know tons of kids whose parents got a divorce and things like that. A lot of it has entered popular culture, the “friend zone”

Apparently you’ve been put in the zone yourself which is why you’re sexually frustrated.

is a mainstream term now and most men I know are just at that critical age where they finally put the pieces together.

No one puts anything together in their 20′s so stop deluding yourself. 20 somethings don’t even have a clue and if you get older you’ll just laugh at this trivial stuff you thought was important. You have no idea what can really happen to you in life.

Early twenties most of your judgement is clouded by the mere prospect of having sex but there comes the day when you stop thinking with your dick or got burned enough times to see the light.

So you’re still not getting any?

I think the most educational thing for me was hanging out with a few pimps and bouncers when I was still younger. You really learn all you need to know about women.

So you learned everything about females from pimps? lol

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The Whammer July 1, 2012 at 13:25

You forgot the part where she makes false allegations against you for sexual assault or rape or looking at her cross-eyed or whatever (pick an offense) and then you go to jail and while you’re there she has a child with another man and claims you are the father and you pay child support for the rest of your life for a child that isn’t yours. Did I miss anything?

Personally I have never even known of one case where this has happened. Perhaps it happens in cellarworld but not in any world that I know of.

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Darryl X July 1, 2012 at 13:25

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“Yet men keep jumping into the marital bed.”

Unfortunately, that’s what I did. After the first ex destroyed my life, I didn’t give up hope and still believed that it was possible to contribute to a productive and happy marital relationship with a wife and children (under God). Hope springs eternal. Once you lose that, there’s kinda no point. Unlike someone from your generation (as you pointed out), c/s the first time around pretty much wiped me out (like it does a lot of men – 10% interest on the arrears). So, there wasn’t a whole lot to lose a second time. Currently, my involuntary creditors (I’ve never been deliberately in debt for myself – no mortgage, car-loan or other revolving debt, no student loans, nothing) are lined up to collect and are clawing over one another. Idiots can’t get blood from a turnip. Another marriage would either help or I would stay down where I was. Of course there’s the feminist drama to contend with too. Since that marriage failed, I’ve been thinking about options both inside and outside the US. In the US places like Detroit or New Orleans for obvious economic reasons. Outside the US Costa Rica and Nicaragua. I’ve never considered Mexico for a variety of reasons. You seem to have done OK down there. Any regrets?

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Eric July 1, 2012 at 14:07

GB4M:
Your boring spouting of these classical writers is highly reminiscent of Socon White Knights like William Bennett and Thomas Fleming. Just like one of those ‘swamis’ at a carnival quote them—thrown in with a bunch of magic words (llozozo butthex blah blah!)—just before looking into the crystal ball and telling us all our fortunes.

Homer and Vergil were poets, Moses a lawgiver—what do these writers have to do with the Mens Movement? Same with Dante: a great poet, but his chivalry and pedestalization of women belongs to the 14th Century.

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Darryl X July 1, 2012 at 14:08

@ whammer -

Unfortunately, the incidence of paternity fraud is approximately 10% among chidren in the US today. And that’s only half the times that the mother isn’t sure she has the correct father as there is a 50% chance of getting it wrong. For another 10% of children who are not victims of paternity fraud, the mother still doesn’t know if she has the correct father identified but it is correct anyway. So, that’s 20% of children (one of five) in the US for which the mother doesn’t know who the father is. Half the time it’s her husband’s or partner’s and the other half it’s some other guy (paramour). Approximately 10% of men who are paying child support in the US are paying for children who are not theirs. These conclusions are from data and their objective analysis concerning DNA studies NOT concerning specifically paternity but other medical phenomena which are dependent upon paternal disposition. These developments were reported because the frequency with which paternity was misrepresented and revealed through the studies compromised the studies. So researchers reported it as a source of error. These studies are reported mostly during the past twenty years since advances in genetic marker analysis and use of RAPD’s and related analyses. Reports claiming that paternity fraud is represented by 30% of children are incorrect. Those reports are not “objective” because they only concern incidence of paternity fraud among children who are tested by fathers because they are suspicious in the first place. Other studies which are not testing paternity specifically but other phenomenon and paternity became a issue because it is a significant source or error are moer objective and likely much more accurate.

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Darryl X July 1, 2012 at 14:13

@ whammer -

There are plenty of men in the US who are paying child support to a woman they have never even met before. She identified the richest guy she was familiar with as the father, gave the court an incorrect address, he was invited to the hearing and didn’t show up because he wasn’t properly notified because of the wrong address, and a default judgment was made against him. Happens all the time. Once an order for child support is made, Bradley Amendment to Title IV-D of the Social Security Act of 1996 prevents any downward modification or elimination. That’s why only approximately 5% of petitions for downward modification during the past forty-two years have been successful and most of those before 1996.

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Rob July 1, 2012 at 14:31

You read what I wrote so why do you keep arguing? If you don’t understand it then get an education in insurane, annuities and reverse mortgages. And btw, what is your net worth? A 40 yo man in the USor UK who doesn’t have a net worth of at least a few million is a loser and I just ignore what they have to say. No one takes advice of pays attention to losers writing nonsense on the Net. — The Whammer

It would be pretty easy to say ditto, except I now realize that I would only be saying it to your personal assistant who is typing all these snot-mouth responses of yours from a 1963 dictaphone. You, of course, would never waste your own valuable time, taking away from your spending the millions you have made, to bother to write them yourself.

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Eric July 1, 2012 at 14:43

Darryl X:
‘But it amounts to a collapse.’

I think will depend somewhat. I think the elites aren’t going to give up their own ‘entitlements’ very easily, but they also realize that they need a productive class to keep their ‘franchise’ going. I think they’ll impose some kind of dictatorship; but use a ‘carrot-and-stick’ approach to the productive classes. ‘we’ll take your freedom in exchange for security.’ will be the stick; but they’ll relax a lot of their grip on the social laws: that will be the carrot.

The dumbed-down and more vicious underclass will have to be controlled more harshly, hence the middle and upper classes will need more mutual dependence than now. IOW, I don’t see the future dictatorship in the US being like Hitler Germany or Soviet Russia; but more like Franco’s Spain or Mussolini’s Italy.

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Darryl X July 1, 2012 at 14:48

@ Eric -

“but more like Franco’s Spain or Mussolini’s Italy.”

I dunno. For some of us, I think it already is like those.

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Eric July 1, 2012 at 14:50

Darryl X:
‘For some of us I think it is already like those.’

Exactly—the trends in that direction are to make it universal.

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universe July 1, 2012 at 15:22

So the system’s going to collapse or not going to collapse. Not in our hands (or is it?).
This guy makes better blog points than some other guy.
Ya, OK, fine, whatever.
Next.
Maybe actually doing something.

It wouldn’t take much for all the fine mental energy displayed on this site to organize a common cause for the benefit of Young Guy(s) and younger. If not for ourselves. Your belief in the impossible guarantees the impossible.

There’s enough sharp people here to be of use to at least assisting those who are aware of the top down strangling of the common man. Maybe even stem the tide and fan it back.
Even if it is to keep track of people that hasten the mythical impending collapse and offer them no protection from the jungle chaos that is anticipated by the breakdown. Those who get no protection: feminists, sycophants to them, the facilitators of the whole mess and, yes, those at the top.

What on earth is actually stopping any of us from being a minor beacon somewhere?

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Darryl X July 1, 2012 at 15:49

@ universe -

I say we all just fucking migrate to Detroit, buy a city or suburban block, declare independence and secede from the “union” and start a new country. We’ll keep the Constitution since the rest of the country doesn’t want it. And the flag. But it will only have one star. Or we can just flip the old flag upside down. It works both ways. I’m OK with New Orleans too.

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Firepower July 1, 2012 at 15:49

Zorro June 29, 2012 at 03:26

My generation is seething with pathetic manginas and the older generation are 98% a pack of wrinkled old farts like Bill Bennett. It is the younger guys who will take on the fembots with a Kraken-like fury.

Nope. YOUR generation raised “the younger guys.”

WHAT example does that set?
Massive vote-ups for you suddenly having the Blinding Revelation that “schools suck” and
“feminists have taken over.”

To the blind, the one-eyed are king.

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Darryl X July 1, 2012 at 15:50

@ GR8B4M -

Great post.

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@ Eric -

Sorry but GR8B4M got ya on that last one. LOLz

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Darryl X July 1, 2012 at 15:59

@ Firepower -

Someone’s got to do the heavy lifting. LOL Besides, I’m out of ideas. That’s as good as any I’ve encountered.

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The Whammer July 1, 2012 at 16:03

would only be saying it to your personal assistant who is typing all these snot-mouth responses of yours from a 1963 dictaphone

Those dictaphones worked, unlike you

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Rob July 1, 2012 at 16:16

I live in the Socialist Dominion of Canuckistan… who needza da work? Everything here is free, dontcha know.

Happy Canada Day, Whammer.

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Ted July 1, 2012 at 16:27

“What Eric–are you going to say that Jefferson has nothing to do with men’s rights? FUCKTARD!”

Once all the nozzle gobble is removed, we see the real GBFM.

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The Whammer July 1, 2012 at 16:27

There are plenty of men in the US who are paying child support to a woman they have never even met before. She identified the richest guy she was familiar with as the father..blah blah blah

The richest guy would just have that thrown out by his lawyer or he’d do it himself based on defective service and have the whole thing expunged. He wouldn’t even have to appear in court and would do it by a written motion filed with the clerk. He’d then sue the county and the female who tried to pull this fraud and reccomend that the DA charge her with fraud and abuse of process.
These types of things only happen to poor ignorant guys and the guy was usually screwing the girl too. And don’ttell me that it happens to men in the military either because when you file a civil complaint you must also file an affidavit of non military service along with it. If the person is in the military you must follow another procedure for service.

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Ted July 1, 2012 at 16:32

@GBFM

The works of all those classic guys are still around. In fact, with modern technology and the internet and stuff, they are more accessible than they ever were.

So how come we ended up in our current mess?

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The Whammer July 1, 2012 at 16:45

Great Books Boob

I think that you should fly to Lesbos or Rhodes, put on your Speedos, and lose that cellar pallor. Plenty of nice girls there in Summer from all over the world and if they drink enough ouzo even you may get lucky. You an even talk about your grammar school books with them :)

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Darryl X July 1, 2012 at 16:52

@ Ted -

“So how come we ended up in our current mess?”

They’re still around and some may even read them. But reading is not the same as understanding or practicing. Also, GR8B4m is right. Feminists have deconstructed their contents and indoctrinated the past few generations against them. It used to be that understanding their contents and practicing it was a direct correlation to improved standard of living. Now it’s an indirect correlation or correlated with declining standard of living.

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Darryl X July 1, 2012 at 16:52

@ Ted -

“So how come we ended up in our current mess?”

They’re still around and some may even read them. But reading is not the same as understanding or practicing. Also, GR8B4m is right. Feminists have deconstructed their contents and indoctrinated the past few generations against them. It used to be that understanding their contents and practicing it was a direct correlation to improved standard of living. Now it’s an indirect correlation or correlated with declining standard of living.

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Darryl X July 1, 2012 at 16:56

@ whammer -

“The richest guy would just have that thrown out by his lawyer or he’d do it himself based on defective service and have the whole thing expunged. He wouldn’t even have to appear in court and would do it by a written motion filed with the clerk. He’d then sue the county and the female who tried to pull this fraud and reccomend that the DA charge her with fraud and abuse of process. These types of things only happen to poor ignorant guys and the guy was usually screwing the girl too. And don’ttell me that it happens to men in the military either because when you file a civil complaint you must also file an affidavit of non military service along with it. If the person is in the military you must follow another procedure for service.”

The entire content of this last post is incorrect. If the man doesn’t appear at the hearing because he didn’t know about it and an order is made it cannot be changed because of Bradley. Happens all the time.

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The Whammer July 1, 2012 at 17:07

@Darryl- the 90% black city of Detroit would be the ideal place for you to hide out in. Find an abandoned house and just move in. I’m not joking. This city is being shut down and no one will bother you there or care who you are. They’ve been turning off a lot of streetlights too because the city hasn’t paid its electric bill. If you need electric for your house just run an extention line to the nearest public location that’s still on and tap into it. Find yourself some hustler like Ratso Rizzo and live like Joe Buck in Midnight Cowboy :)
Or you can get an Obama grant and just take up residence at some University for the next 20 years with your room and board paid for. I’m sure that you’d be able to pick up some extra cash to pay for other necessities like booze, cigars and Gucci loafers :)

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The Whammer July 1, 2012 at 17:10

The entire content of this last post is incorrect. If the man doesn’t appear at the hearing because he didn’t know about it and an order is made it cannot be changed because of Bradley. Happens all the time.

Since you think you’re an expert them give me the court and docket number because I’d like to read about the case and look at the documents and orders. I still have Pacer and can read them right now.

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The Whammer July 1, 2012 at 17:20

The works of all those classic guys are still around. In fact, with modern technology and the internet and stuff, they are more accessible than they ever were

Because people don’t read them and would rather watch the film, Troy. Acturally the writers didn’t do a bad job but they left out a lot. The gods were left out. They didn’t mention that when Helen ran off with Paris that she also stole a lot of her husband , Menlaus’, property. Or that being in Troy and with Paris for the 10 years the war was going on was boring to her and she wanted to go back to Menelaus. I guess like all females she thought she ccould con him with sex and he wouldn’t kill her and take her back.

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Darryl X July 1, 2012 at 17:42

@ the whammer -

“I’m not joking.”

I know you’re not. I was thinking about it.

“Or you can get an Obama grant and just take up residence at some University for the next 20 years with your room and board paid for.”

I would be garnished for child support arrears. LOLz

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Ted July 1, 2012 at 17:50

“Because people don’t read them and would rather watch the film”

There’s probably something in that. We are force fed the fantasies of the film studios. Television and movies are responsible for a lot of modern mind rot.

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Eric July 1, 2012 at 17:52

GB4M:
I have never denied that young men should be taught the classics, although not to ‘man up’ as you said. The purpose of reading such literature is to inspire younger men to emulation of their virtues, reflexion on their points, and as a starting-point for further growth and research.

True, the feminists have distorted and depreciate the classics. I also think it depreciates the classics to have some goofball idly dropping their names amidst a torrent of schmaltz about ‘gina-tingle-lingles’ and ‘butthexes’ and designer thongs or whatever. So, I think I show a little more reverence for the classics than you do.

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The Whammer July 1, 2012 at 18:28

I would be garnished for child support arrears. LOLz

They can’t garnish anything because there’s nothing to garnish. You get the tuition paid for directly and a room and board. How can they get their hands on that? They’d have to prove it has some cash value and that it’s under your control and you can take it and give it to the court. You can’t. It would be like saying a scholarship for tuition is the same as cash. It’s contingent on your using it and cannot be sold for cash or transferred to another person.
And btw, you’re going to have to get a lot smarter and more devious if you’re ever going to beat people in this world.And keep your business to yourself, don’t let people know anything about you. There’s no need to and what they don’t know can’t harm you. Stay off Facebook too.

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Poester99 July 1, 2012 at 18:55

Iceland pursuing the Canadistan dollar. Very interesting development. I was not aware of this. Thanks for the info. Any reference and further discussion anywhere that I can consult? Even though it’s a “secret” LOLz.

http://www.businessinsider.com/iceland-canadian-dollar-heidar-gudjonsson-2012-5

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Eric July 1, 2012 at 20:49

GB4M:
‘Fucktard! Llllozozozozol! Butthexer bernankifier! Me and Roissy are good pals…read Dante’s Inferno’

{Yawn}

I’ve read the entire Divine Comedy, Blockhead. He depicted guys like you the 8th Circle of Hell standing waist-deep in shit.

So, all the great books teach Game? Is this what all this bombast is supposed to tell us?

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bread July 1, 2012 at 21:05

Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

Is that you, PAN?

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Eric July 1, 2012 at 21:38

Ted:
Just out of curiosity, did you understand a single word of this whole 3-post farrago?

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Ted July 1, 2012 at 23:02

“did you understand a single word ”

He doesn’t make it easy.

Is he saying that the state we are in now is because of a top-down conspiracy? If so, I don’t agree. (That’s not to say we don’t have the same proportion of crooks at the top. They, as usual, just take advantage of whatever situation comes up). But when he says “those who create are robbed, and those who bullshit are rewarded”, well, I have to agree with that.

I’m puzzled by the connection to PU Artistry though. That seems unnecessary. If you’re going to print yourself some money, why bother with all that stuff too?

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Ted July 1, 2012 at 23:19

@GBFM

[The great classics]

The moral lessons don’t change. Human nature remains basically unchanged. Eternal truths.

So our society doesn’t change, right? Surely even you must admit that this is wrong. We now have riches and information available to us in quantities undreamed of by any of your greats.

If our society is different now, then the new problems it presents must be driven by new solutions. The classic rules need to be looked at again, probably need changing; and we probably need new ones too.

It might be that Game should be taught to boys in our schools as a counterbalance to women’s possession of both economic parity and sex appeal. It does seem a lot of effort to have to go to, though. I’d prefer a more low-energy fix, myself.

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Eric July 1, 2012 at 23:46

Ted:
Could be. I’ve had to break codes at various times in my life, and his posts do sound like he’s trying to convey some secret message. The only things I’ve made out so far is that there’s some connection between Mediaeval Italy, the Founding Fathers, and the Federal Reserve Board—and it has to do with promoting anal sex, Game/PUA, and not reading the Homeric poems.

Or it could just be like the Whammer suggested, he’s a bored teenager copying stuff out of Cliff-Notes and wasting everybody’s time.

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andybob July 2, 2012 at 02:19

“I’ve read the entire Divine Comedy, Blockhead. He depicted guys like you in the 8th Circle of Hell standing waist-deep in shit.” Mr Eric

Comment of the Decade.

Mr Eric packs more wisdom into one sentence than GB4M manages in all of his inpenetrable rants combined. Steam of consciousness writing is tedious even in the hands of masters like Marquez. When lesser mortals attempt it, the result is always a pretentious bore. It nay impress your creative writing tutor, but the rest of us are lzozlzlzlzzlzo.

Take a leaf out of Mr Eric’s book and just say what you mean and mean what you say. Stop torturing the English language and bone up on what some of our greatest western writers had to say about erudition and rhetorical discipline. They may be old, dead, white guys, but they certainly knew a thing or two about writing. Show some respect.

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Daniel J. Stewart July 2, 2012 at 05:40

Folks:

This article is “by” a young guy…however, I’m OLD.

Gotta tell yinz, though, that his points are right on–just don’t go far enough.

My guess: everyone else whom the government has “helped” is in about the same place as before, except women. My sense is because they never needed the help in the first place. They were already on top.

Why are all those twits on the sidelines at college football games…because “they” were the ONLY ones allowed to apply. No Males need apply. I remember (having seen “the signs” that prove it)
when No Irish need apply. What’s so different?

Enjoy it now yinz Little Darlings, because SOON–like the cellulite creeping down your legs–you won’t be so lucky.

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universe July 2, 2012 at 08:09

Darryl X

I say we all just fucking migrate to Detroit, buy a city or suburban block, declare independence and secede from the “union” and start a new country. We’ll keep the Constitution since the rest of the country doesn’t want it. And the flag. But it will only have one star. Or we can just flip the old flag upside down. It works both ways. I’m OK with New Orleans too.

– OK.
Set it up.

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Brosephus July 2, 2012 at 08:49

Great comment of the week. The only slight correction I have would be about the throwaway line about the humanities. No one attempting to analyze (or even read) Kant’s Critique of Pure Reason or any other serious philosophical work could properly categorize it as anything less than rigorous. Just figured I should put that fact out there.

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Darryl X July 2, 2012 at 11:14

Just a quick note on the PUA stuff I’ve been reading about here on this and other threads. I am a student of the great books for men including the Bible. PUA and Game (if I understand their meaning in these threads correctly and I may not) are tactics used by men for manipulating “silly” women. For the most part, women are idiots and are easily manipulated. For any reason, whether it’s because a guy wants to get laid or he wants to use the woman against competitors in the work place. When men manipulate women, they are participating in the feminist mechanism of manipulation – generally, if you manipulate then you are easily manipulated. When men manipulate women this way and women allow themselves to be manipulated, it contributes to decline of civilization and the fabric of our society. When men manipulate women this way, it corrupts their minds. When women allow themselves to be manipulated this way (absolving them of any responsibility for anything), it corrupts them too. My advice: don’t do it. It’s a no win situation except in the most short-sighted way. Just sayin.

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ralph gorman July 2, 2012 at 11:49

THE CHOSEN SEX

Women claim that they are victims of “sex discrimination”. Women are lying. Women have every area of society completely rigged in their favor. Consider: women get the house, the car and all the money in divorce court, they walk away with virtually guaranteed custody of the kids, they receive exorbitant child support and alimony, they get first place on the life bots when the ship sinks and they get to sit on their priveled breeding cow ass while the opposite sex does the dying. Now the bitches are dominating college graduations and think they should have all the high paying jobs too. Was there ever anything so outrageous in the history of the world? How does a “persecuted” sex have so many areas of society so completely rigged in its favor? The military is a particularly egregious example of this nonsense. Women have never fought a war in their lives, have never been in combat aside from rare exceptions, cannot meet the same physical training sandards as their male compatriots, suffer nervous break downs when they get their tits pinched and deliberately get pregnant when the bullets start to fly. As their reward for this nonsense, they are already five cunt hole generals.

The same idiocies prevail everywhere else in feminized society. They can sue for sexual hostility while screaming “Male Chauvinist pig!”, run around with their buttocks exposed while suing for ass grabbing, make babies on the company’s time while getting equal pay for the work they are not doing, deny a father any share in the decision to abort while demanding that he pay if she chooses to keep the child, have husbands arrested for domestic violence on mere say so, no due process or proof required but be told to get “counseling” if they get caught lying, on and on it goes. This is the society we now live in. It is a society of pampered fuck holes who believe they are entitled to anything they desire. Women have achieved this nonsense through a magic word called “discrimination”. Discrimination is anything men have that women want. Women’s priveleges are not “discrimination”. Women can no more discriminate against men than Jews can terrorize Arabs. They are the “Chosen Sex”.

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Sam July 2, 2012 at 15:49

I hope more young men see feminism for the hateful thing it is.

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Gamerp4 July 2, 2012 at 16:53

This is what sanity is and this is what today’s young men presents, completely logical and on the point “NO BULLSHIT GUY”, we may be silent and keeping ourselve ghost but our voices are being heard, we at MRM are reaching to a far audience then ever before, doesnt matter if we are slow but we sure are drumming those ears up and lighting those brain tubes.

Keep the enlightenment in young men growing because all i wish is Men to Survive, I am not a women hater but if women don’t want to come in the light then i can care less, for me they are already a walking zombie hamster who feeds on every men whether in home or work.

I am done with these career cyborgs and “have it all” slut walkers, they have by far done the damage and it is their duty to mend it, i wont jump in on a sinking ship and i will give my brothers a decent advice that not to jump too, let these mice and cockroaches drown, we can still have our sanity after 40 years of emasculation.

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keith July 2, 2012 at 19:11

I would like to highlight one point, maybe as an insight.

We have a fatherless man in the white house, sympathetic to feminism who doubtless was not exposed to a male perception of feminism on the internet. Tomorrows president may be more informed and less sympathetic to feminism. He to may be fatherless with a different perception. How would such a man respond politically. Could he represent a one man backlash of epic proportion, would he?

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Ted July 3, 2012 at 02:26

@KW July 3, 2012 at 00:25

“@Old Geezer idiot at 70″

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I suppose this is a clever reference to Anonymous age 70

” The problem is you aren’t being useful, you just being a young male hating bigot. ”

How do you work this out? Perhaps you are posting from some alternate dimension.

“I deal with jerks; ”

Birds of a feather, I suppose.

“chavunistic women, white knights and manginas on a daily basis.”

Life must be trying.

“I don’t put up with them”

No, you shouldn’t put up with jerks, and so forth.

“and I am not going to put up with trash like you. If you have nothing nice to say to a group of human beings that have been beaten into the ground since the day we where born, please shut up and go away.”

Can you give a reference to an example of “nothing nice”? From this universe, if possible. Genuine curiosity here.

“You are nothing but a waste of space useless troll. ”

I have the feeling I’ve stepped into a conversation halfway through.

“Men of your generation ”

Which is my generation, too. I have an interest.

“are just as much the enemies of young men as the most rabid feminist.”

Rubbish

“Anyone who thinks otherwise is just kidding themselves.”

Yes, it happened on our watch. My generation’s watch that is. We were outnumbered. Grow up.

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Peter South July 3, 2012 at 09:32

Since you think you’re an expert them give me the court and docket number because I’d like to read about the case and look at the documents and orders. I still have Pacer and can read them right now.

There is no need for specific case numbers to prove that default judgements exist.

Alabama courts will enter a default judgment against a parent for delinquent child support payments on a showing that the parent seeking relief from the court is entitled to past-due child support. The parent owing child support must also fail to appear before the court or fail to otherwise defend the claims against him, such as presenting evidence to the contrary, for a default judgment to be entered.

http://www.ehow.com/list_6788318_alabama-child-support-default-judgments.html

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The Whammer July 3, 2012 at 19:23

@South-you’re very confused just like 90% of the boys commenting here. I did not say that a default could not be entered if the party fails to defend but you must first show that the person was properly served. Throwing a summons and complaint over their fence or mailing it to an address is not proper service. You must either have someone serve it directly to the person or at the very least send it certified where it must be signed for and then show the receipt to the judge as proof if the party fails to show. Another thing, in a lot of counties the sheriff or one of the employees serves the summones and if they can’t find the person they’ll write it on the affidavit and the judge cannot enter a default.
Do you really believe that some female can just choose the name of some wealthy man, as the person above wrote, and that a judge is going to enter a judgement against that person when there is not even proof of service? You’re also going to have to properly indentify the person A judgement against Juan Sanchez means nothing, there may be a 100k people with that name in LA :)
Many people on here like to cite cases but all they know is the outcome and not what preceeded it which is why I asked him to give me the docket # so that I could read the ENTIRE history of the case Of course there may be cases that are outright fraud but that’s a crime. Use some common sense, if it were that easy to enter default judgements against a person every conman would be doing it.
Go talk to a lawyer or go to one of these legal clinics that a lot of Universities have and ask a lawyer any question you have.

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The Whammer July 3, 2012 at 19:34

e-how? lol Go ask a pro

And btw, this is what e-how says:

The court may enter a default judgment against a party who fails to appear in court or otherwise defend himself against a legal allegation. With respect to child support in Alabama, default judgments may be entered against a non-custodial parent when that parent fails to make court-ordered child support payments.

“when that parent fails to make court-ordered child support payments”

This means that there was an Order already in force and the person ordered failed to make it so now a judgement will be entered against that person’s property to satisfy it.

Understand now?

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Dave July 5, 2012 at 00:53

This is not the first time and place in history that women gained enough independence that they could afford to reject most men. Each time this happened (I’m thinking of Rome in the fourth century and Baghdad in the ninth), the rejected men eventually said “fuck it”, went their own way, and let foreign invaders come rape all the women. If you’re not good enough to be any woman’s husband or father, why risk your life to protect them?

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ray gorman July 11, 2012 at 11:26

Davve has correctly analyzed how it will eventually wind up. I like to put it this way:

GONE WITH EQUALITY

Scarlett:

“I’m really sorry I stole your job and filed all those discrimination lawsuits, Rhett. You will fight to protect me from those mass raping enemy soldiers, won’t you?

Rhett:

“You’re such a child, Scarlett. You think all the past can be erased by saying ‘I’m sorry’”.

Scarlett:

“But, Rhett. What will happen when those mass raping enemy soldiers get their hands on me?”

Rhett:

“Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn.”

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Evert September 4, 2012 at 15:12

What’s “whammer” doing here ?

Oh I see! A Feminista masquerading as a male!

Though she doesn’t belch that explicitly anywhere, the way she’s going about bullying anyone and everyone who’s trying to write some sense raises suspicions. Doesn’t it ?

That familiar stamp of impoliteness and brazen verbiage.

I’m ‘touched’ by her magnanimity to consider coming to this wretched corner inhabited by the most unthinkably fallen creatures on the planet – MEN. That she considered these ludicrous worms worthy of her oh-so-precious time to wean to emancipation is definite proof of her honeysweet graciousness wrapped in nectarous benevolence.

We’re so grateful.

Need I care any more? Guffaw!

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Evert September 4, 2012 at 15:22

Or is it because she isn’t able to find a man outside of these pages that she’s come in here ?

And happens to be one of those Americunts who get gina tingles by bad-mouthing men?

Not surprised. True to their nature (and ‘upbringing’). As always.

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