Real Backlash Has Emerged

by W.F. Price on June 24, 2012

Feminists have been writing about a “backlash” against feminism for years. Even at the height of their legislative and cultural triumph in the 1990s, they claimed there was a serious backlash against feminism.

Of course, there was nothing of the sort. Men (including so-called conservatives) went on to pass some of the most draconian anti-male legislation on earth (VAWA), male enrollment in college continued to drop, the stifling PC atmosphere in the media and on campus was at its most oppressive and children were routinely seized from fathers, as usual.

Men’s and fathers’ rights groups at the time were still so cowed and intimidated that they claimed to support feminism at every turn. They sought compromise with feminists wherever possible. For all their efforts to cooperate, feminists still called them “the abuser lobby,” “misogynists” and other related slurs. Feminists had won the culture war hands-down. My own city council at the time was 33% open lesbian (all feminists); an overrepresentation of over 6,000%. Feminists had their hands firmly on the levers of power, and they were not shy about using that power to promote the female supremacist agenda.

Although it took a while, the inevitable outrage over their excesses has started to emerge. When you beat people down for long enough, eventually they start to fight back, although not always effectively at first.

The manosphere, which really emerged in the late 2000s, was a direct response to feminists going overboard. Roissy, The Spearhead, A Voice for Men, Dalrock, and a number of other sites emerged in opposition to feminism. For some of us it was personal, for others an altruistic effort, but for most of us I’d assume a bit of both.

It seems our efforts are being noticed, and not only by aggrieved, divorced men or ultrasensitive feminists and leftists.

Anger at feminists exploded in a recent critique of video games that a feminist was preparing. Her project, one of the typical, inconsequential critiques of something boys do in their spare time, was devoted to combating gender stereotypes in video games (truly an extremely important project). The feminist, Anita Sarkeesian, decided to fund her project with kickstarter. Somehow, some gamers caught wind of the project, and launched a concerted online attack on the feminist, vandalizing her Wikipedia page and YouTube site and posting rude pictures, among other things. I suspect there was some pent up anger from John Scalzi’s recent piece that told gamers they all have white male privilege.

The immediate effect of the attacks was to convince a lot of feminists to hand Sarkeesian a lot of money (over $130,000) through kickstarter, so the attacks didn’t work exactly as planned. But they did demonstrate that there’s a lot of anger out there. As for Sarkeesian’s success, we should be happy about it, because I can’t think of a more worthless way to spend over a hundred thousand dollars than in finger-wagging over video games. For one thing, it’s sure to piss even more guys off, and the game industry is very competitive, so her documentary (now expanded to 12 parts!) will likely have zero effect on production and consumption of this form of entertainment. The feminists are simply pissing all the money away, and that’s fine, because this time they’re paying for it themselves.

Of course, juvenile online attacks are a waste of our time as well. There’s a lot more to be gained from keeping your cool and telling it straight. Giving women like Sarkeesian the opportunity to portray themselves as victims is playing right into their hands. If there’s anything men ought to know, it is that the “damsel in distress” is a trope that serves women extremely well. Nothing gives women more power than the ability to trigger protective instincts.

That said, there is definitely a different tone online. White knighting has become far less common than it was a few years ago. Men are standing up for themselves. There’s a growing awareness that feminism has gone too far, and comments on feminist articles have a tendency to skew toward men’s rights. This is a real backlash, and it’s undeniable at this point. So much so that some feminists appear be afflicted by flagging morale.

Although the tone of some of the attacks on feminism is unfortunate, it will improve as those who oppose the ideology mature and think things over. People tend to form their convictions relatively early in life, and don’t tend to change their minds so much as they learn to put things in context and achieve their goals more effectively (e.g. neocons adapted their practice more than their core ideology; feminists stopped burning bras and shooting male artists and took over college departments, etc.).

Perhaps most encouraging is that anecdotal evidence suggests that sons of feminists tend to hate the ideology with a passion. I’m pretty sure that anti-feminism is a lot more widespread amongst youths and young men than most older people realize, especially as they are reaching out and finding explanations for the frustration they feel in a world that is hostile to masculinity. I’m happy to say that I’ve helped some of these boys along, and I know I’m not the only one.

Feminists have long expected a backlash from some mysterious cabal. They have breathlessly spoken of it as a wonderful opportunity to finally finish off the hated patriarchy. Imagine their horror as they realize that this backlash they have been preparing for all these years is coming from their sons.

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Zorro June 24, 2012 at 11:48

Fuck, Yeah!

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Thos. June 24, 2012 at 11:56

I had a discussion with a friend about comic books. He’s pretty whipped and claimed that the representation of women in comics is as distorted a view of women as in radical islam.

Given that we’re in the age of the iPad, paper comics are on their way out, and all you really need to publish is a web server. So, people who want different kinds of comics can publish at effectively zero cost. If you don’t want to read comics that have gals with big boobies, don’t and publish something better.

He replied that I was perpetuating the problem…somehow.

Given that women don’t read comics or play video games in significant proportions, this will be a self-regulating problem already well covered by the freedom of speech provisions in all G7 countries. It can be safely ignored.

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Andie June 24, 2012 at 12:12

It’s not just sons. I’m the daughter of one of those 1970′s man-hating second wave feminists and I am just as sickened by what feminism has achieved as any self-aware man.

Younger women are starting to realize how badly we’ve been sold out – see the headline article in the Atlantic about how women CAN NOT have it all and that wanting it all is so much bullshit. It’s not the whole story, but a tiny step in the right direction.

The number of women who are allies with the MRA is growing and will continue to grow.

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Beltain June 24, 2012 at 12:17

The Gaming World is the pin-ultimate experience for exposing feminism as the farce it is. It takes a young male little time at all to see how the female model/figure is treated differently or how the female voice over the coms software is handed everything by the other males leaving those with male characters to slug it out and work four times harder to achieve the same end.

With a very few, very rare exceptions the girl players are typically sub-par in ability as well and it is glaringly obvious they are tolerated and carried just for being female.

The younger gaming male generation can see this and these advantages and then ask themselves why do these women think they need more advantages even outside the gaming world? The same basic rules apply for social interaction.

I used to be a gamer, I still pay for vent and other servers now used by my teenage son and his friends and I hear them talk constantly from my son’s computer and they are not blind. These boys have no future, no way to express themselves and have been driven to this electronic “boy’s Club” by feminism and as they age I have heard first hand they are not as happy about it as some seem to think they are.

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Douchie McDouche June 24, 2012 at 12:19

You forgot to mention some of the earlier Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW) websites such as:

The Mirror of the Soul
The Eternal Bachelor

^very highly recommended reading for all young men. Read them now!! Don’t wait. Then, report back here to the Spearhead.

Go get ‘em, Tigers.

Besides that, another good piece Mr. Price.

My method for backlash is to simply avoid women. Have a nice day.

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Mojo June 24, 2012 at 12:26

Feminists will never understand that it is -they- who are the oppressors. They cling to their delusion that they are the ‘underdog’ against the system, even as they control the system.

Revolution requires an enemy class to attack … this is seen as justified when the enemy class controls the system. But feminism is perpetual revolution. So what happens when they gain control over the system? They continue to attack the enemy class, i.e. men, thinking they are striking the next blow against the patriarchy, when what they are doing is more like a pogrom. Now -they- are the system, they are able and more than willing to intimidate, humiliate, expropriate. It will get indefinitely worse if they have their way. Liberal feminism leads -necessarily- to radical feminism.

Still, we don’t need feminists to ‘understand’ that they are the persecutors (I imagine some of them know this full well and are just misandrist sadists, little Eichmanns). It doesn’t matter what they think or know or understand. What matters is what -we- think, know and understand, and how we are going to act on it.

So – like the neocons figuring out how to turn Straussian essentialism into policy … like the swivel-eyed feminist lunatics progressing from attempted assassinations to laying the foundations for institutional and legal abuse … I ask you – what are we going to DO with this knowledge and awareness beyond changing online discourse?

There are some extraordinarily dynamic individuals – Paul Elam, Glen Poole, Robert St Estephe, Agent Orange – who have achievements to their names – like getting radfem2012 kicked out of Conway Hall (that was Agent Orange, not the “die cis scum” transactivists, regardless of what they like to believe).

W. F. Price: I look forward to the prospect of backlash as much as you, but am not convinced it will simply come about organically as young men realize they are being oppressed and correctly assign the blame to feminism.

Yes, there will be increasing anger, but young men are going up against state power and $$$.

The manosphere helps in explaining why this is all happening, and bringing pissed off men into one (cyber) space. But that understanding needs to be acted on.

Keyster has mentioned several times his idea that the MRM should try to attach itself to the Republican party. This is a possibility although it’s not one MRAs have warmed to, since the Republicans, and conservatives more generally, tend to be white knights.

Thinking like a leftist, though: why not attach ourselves to the GOP in order to subvert its gender politics and radicalize it in the MRA direction? That kind of approach has worked wonders for leftists and their infiltrations into public institutions …

If people don’t like this idea, though: what else do you have? What alternative suggestion do you have for putting all this anger to constructive use in an organized way?

There is a wave of anti-feminism coming, and it is growing organically, so let’s make sure we harness it and push that rage in the right direction, make it as effective as we can … but we have to say -how- and then act on that.

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Mark Plus June 24, 2012 at 12:27

I hear a lot about “empathy” from feminists and from the self-hating men who support them, like George Lakoff, with his propaganda about the alleged superiority of Nurturant Parent morality over Strict Father morality, and I notice that they apply this empathy in a selfish and asymmetric way. They blatantly lack empathy for men’s points of view when these don’t fit into their framing, even if we have legitimate grievances about political and social trends in the U.S. I think the backlash against feminism will blow up the myth that empathy motivates the people who promote these misandrist political doctrines.

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Mojo June 24, 2012 at 12:28

Also … the ‘misogyny’ argument as applied to gaming, like everything else, is bullshit … in every single action game there is, the vast majority of enemies you are required to kill, when human or just humanoid, are clearly -MALE-.

That feminists would not even notice this, when ‘critiquing’ the portrayal of wimminz, speaks volumes about what society expects of MEN.

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keyster June 24, 2012 at 12:28

The breakthrough is occuring as more young men come to the realization that women are not their Partners, but rather their Competitors.

When you work you’re ass off in a position for a company only to have a less competent rookie female get promoted instead of you (because they need EEOC quota points), yeah you get a little bitter about it. And you’re tasked with supporting her and helping her be successful…or else you’re not a “team player” (ie – support grrl power).

Feminism has failed because women as a group adopted the notion of “equality” with men, while stubbornly clinging to their sexual/reproductive power over men. Had feminism truly helped women “realize their greatness”, there’d be far more great women. Instead there’s just more feminists. It’s run it’s course over 3 generations and it’s out of time to prove itself righteous.

The original “male chauvanist pigs” of the early 70′s, were right all along. Women are biologically and chemically ill-equipped to be men. If the Creator had meant women to be more like men, he wouldn’t have given them the ability to bring forth life from their bodies.

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Mark Plus June 24, 2012 at 12:36

@Mojo:

>Thinking like a leftist, though: why not attach ourselves to the GOP in order to subvert its gender politics and radicalize it in the MRA direction? That kind of approach has worked wonders for leftists and their infiltrations into public institutions …

It probably wouldn’t require much of a push to do that, especially if we can take George Lakoff’s unified theory of conservatism (the Strict Father metaphor) away from him and make it the doctrine of the Republican Party. Just create a campaign to reach America’s disenfranchised, productive beta males and explain to them how progressive social policies screw them by allowing women to “marry the state” for support, reject them as lovers and husbands in favor of bad boys and cads, bear bastard children at their expense (paid by their taxes), etc. A Republican politician who made it his explicit goal to reverse this system and improve beta males’ lives might find an unexpectedly receptive audience.

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Facepalm time again June 24, 2012 at 12:38

I think that a major problem that many women will have is that a red-pill guy doesn’t care about any of their ‘problems’ or ‘issues’ anymore.

I have no interest in any stats on any women’s issues – mainly because I don’t believe them and have no interest in investigating the true size of any problem – too many lies.
I have no interest in giving money to any women’s charities.
I’n not going to sponsor anybody in any woman related event.
Any report of deaths that report ‘women and children’ as more important – immediate reduction in interest.
Make a misandric advert or program – won’t use your product, won’t watch the program (and will be happy to say why, if asked).

I wouldn’t call this a backlash because I am not going to make a big deal about any of it; I just don’t fucking care any more.

I do not believe much in the lame stream media anymore as I have learnt that they don’t report stuff that doesn’t support their agenda or view point. I am not talking about troofers, just that generally the MSM is not a very good way to find information about anything from an objective viewpoint – and I don’t give a shit what any celebutard ‘thinks’ about anything.

There doesn’t have to be an active backlash, when enough men just treat women EXACTLY as they do other men (ones very poor at recognising debt, or repaying it)…cold world for the ‘fairer sex’ – welcome to the real world

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Ryu June 24, 2012 at 12:43

Good. Hatred and anger are power. Whenever you hear someone say “stop the hate”, it is a call to throw down your greatest weapons.

An angry man is motivated. He doesn’t wallow in self pity, and the guilt hustles, which rely entirely upon the consent of the mark, don’t work anymore.

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Eric June 24, 2012 at 12:47

Price:
Good article—the fact that clowns like Futrelle are getting so much media exposure and that the troll attacks and rhethoric has been heating up is precisely because our opponents can’t ignore/laugh at us any more. They’re getting very nervous because they know they can’t keep a lid on things much longer.

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Mojo June 24, 2012 at 12:50

@ Facepalm

“I think that a major problem that many women will have is that a red-pill guy doesn’t care about any of their ‘problems’ or ‘issues’ anymore.”

Of course. Men don’t have any kind of obligation to go bat for team woman. If anything, given the vast disparity between funding for male and female healthcare, women should be going to bat for team man.

Don’t expect it though, chivalry only works one-way.

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Young Guy June 24, 2012 at 13:00

If feminists think men, especially young men, are angry, they don’t know the half of it. As a 26 year-old male, I have seen this society bend over backwards to accommodate women all the time.

The school curriculums are geared toward female success. Schools have countless women’s programs. Female teachers can be as hateful as they want towards male students without facing consequences. People cheer when girls succeed in school, but jeer when boys succeed in school. Even though females have every advantage in the education system, they somehow still have the audacity to complain. They take fluff majors but don’t realize anyone with less than half a brain could pass classes in the humanities and social sciences. Boys are dropping like flies in the education system, but no one cares. America’s education system has become a joke ever since feminist legislation was passed to make the education system more female-friendly.

Oh, and just look at the workplace. Sexual harassment laws give women freedom to dress slutty and still have the nerve to complain when men sneak a peek. If you are a man who has a female co-worker, you have to walk on eggshells everyday or else you can get fired because the twat in the other room got her panties in a bunch over something minor you said. You can be a man who has busted his ass everyday to succeed in your chosen profession, only to see it mean nothing because some woman who was nothing more than an affirmative action hire. If this isn’t bad enough, you get these useless women who are subpar, yet they still never shut up about breaking through the mythical glass-ceiling that they didn’t break and didn’t exist in the first place.

Also, I have really had enough of women dragging this country down with their dead-weight. Female soldiers, police officers, and firefighters are liabilities. No, all you ladies in these jobs, you aren’t heroes. I am going to go insane if I hear one more female soldier, police officer, or firefighter cry about not getting the respect she thinks she deserves. She doesn’t get respect because she doesn’t deserve respect. The military, law enforcement, and firefighters would be A LOT better off if women stopped lowering the bar to astronomical proportions.

I could go on and on about fathers being the butt of all jokes, male-only spaces being infiltrated by women, misandry in the entertainment industry, female-on-male violence and male suicide being treated like it either it doesn’t exist or it doesn’t matter, single mothers and all their horrors, and just all the complaining women do everyday about insignificant things, but I think most of you understand where I am coming from already.

Males raised in feminist households or single-mother households are sick and tired of all this nonsense because they have seen the hatefulness in feminism since they were born, and every day afterwards. These young men are extremely angry because it has been made clear to them they are considered irrelevant by most of society. Go ahead, keep throwing us young guys under the bus, because you are just making things worse. You have no idea how angry young men like me are after being thrown under the bus ever since we were born.

The backlash is not only real, but it is well-deserved. Apologies won’t erase the damage which has been done. Acting like what happened because of feminism either didn’t happen or was minor is a slap in the face. Saying women have suffered from feminism just as much as men is like spitting in the faces of all the men who have suffered ten lifetimes of pain because of feminism.

Women have no idea what they have done to us Generation Y men.

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Andrew S. June 24, 2012 at 13:01

It will be interesting to see if feminists can ruin the gaming industry like they ruin pretty much everything else. There is a lot of money being made off “gamers,” and even guys like me who play the occasional game but aren’t hardcore contribute a lot of money to the industry.

I doubt there are a lot of young guys and men out there who are going to want to play games that involve a bunch of screaming feminists, and where the object of the game is to destroy the “evil patriarchy.” The truth is guys who play games want their female characters to be either hot, large breasted, ass kicking types, or sexy non-feminist types that you save. If the gaming industry changes this dynamic to much due to Feminist/liberal pressure they will destroy a cash cow. And feminism will have yet another “victory.”

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Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM) June 24, 2012 at 13:02

Remember my friends.

The first word in all of Western Literature is RAGE.

The RAGE OF ACHILLES.

The state bureaucrat King Agamemnon seizes from Achilles what is his.

And so Achilles calls out his commander and quits the Greek Army. He goes his own way, and the Greeks begin to lose as Homer notes, “THE WILL OF ZEUS WAS DONE.”

This is why the fiatocracy deconstructed the Great Books and Classics, and dumbed-down the university curriculum. They don’t want you to man up like Achilles did.

They don’t want you to know of Achilles’ divine RAGE.

Rage — Goddess, sing the rage of Peleus’ son Achilles,
murderous, doomed, that cost the Achaeans countless losses,
hurling down to the House of Death so many sturdy souls,
great fighters’ souls, but made their bodies carrion,
feasts for the dogs and birds,
and the will of Zeus was moving toward its end.
Begin, Muse, when the two first broke and clashed,
Agamemnon lord of men and brilliant Achilles. . . .
Translated by Robert Fagles (1990)

Thomas Jefferson wrote, “They all fall off, one by one, until one is left with Virgil and Homer, and perhaps Homer alone.”

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Facepalm time again June 24, 2012 at 13:02

@Mojo

I remember chivalry, but he left town. Actually he was tarred, feathered and ridden out on a rail IIRC.

Got into a discussion today about women, marriage, Sweden etc with a couple of guys that I’ve known for a while. Both are pretty mild guys that are married with kids, none of us had anything good to say about the nature of women. FRAs, vindictive acts etc all got aired. Even while loving their wives, they had no illusions about the nature of women in general – very encouraging discussion

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The Contrarian Expatriate June 24, 2012 at 13:03

Any backlash is powerless against the entrenched, state-sponsered feminism of the day.

The US Congress, state legislatures nationwide, the Supreme Court, and state courts nationwide all do the work of perpetuating feminism and most contain feminist operatives to varying extents.

The manosphere is ill-equipped to undue femocratic control due to the browbeaten manginas and ill-informed non-feminist women that vote to maintain “womens’ rights.”

The USA beat communism but lost to feminism and it does not even realize it yet. Move abroad and watch the US socially implode from a safe distance.

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Eric June 24, 2012 at 13:03

Price & Keyster:
Remember though that feminism is a fanatical ideology and the feminists have no aversion to changing their outward stripes if it means furthering their agenda. What we have to be on especial guard against is a tendency to remake themselves as Socons. I get a strong sense from a lot of so-called ‘tradcon’ women that they hold all the fundamentals of feminism—that men are worthless pigs who have to be kept in their places.

Here’s a passage from a Socon White Knight, Thomas Fleming, from Chronicles Magazine 8/22/2011 which really illustrates the Socon take on feminsied society clearly:

“Young men today are blaming young women for the misieries of modern social life, but in my experience it is bad men who make bad women: feeble fathers, cheating boyfriends, effeminate ministers. It is up to men to take charge…It is too easy for men, who are responsible for the way the world is, to point the finger at their victims.”

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Eric June 24, 2012 at 13:06

Mojo:
21st Century Chivalry: a white knight who fights the dragons while the princess gets it on with the court jester in the knight’s bed and laughs in her sleeve over how all men are pigs.

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Facepalm time again June 24, 2012 at 13:14

I don’t have any problem with socons tying themselves to feminists – fuck ‘em all

Part of the red-pill is recognising when lying bastards of any stripe are trying to manipulate you. Not great for society, but I’m not interested in a society based on throwing men under the femi-con bus.

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Rebel June 24, 2012 at 13:18

“My method for backlash is to simply avoid women.”

That’s really the only way to go.

All else is verboten and will land you in jail.

Enjoy the freedom of avoiding women while you still can. Maybe one day, that too, will land you in jail. No backlash will be permitted.

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Wilson June 24, 2012 at 13:18

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Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM) June 24, 2012 at 13:23

The ones vandalizing Sarkeesian’s wikipedia page and Sarkeesian herself are two sides of the same coin. They probably worked in neighboring cubicles at a games company,pumping out dumbed-down, debauched, degrading games.

The feminists and their fellow fanboyz revel in vulgarity, crassness, and “by any means necessary” vandal strategies.

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Andrew S. June 24, 2012 at 13:26

It’s looks like Pixar’s latest film “Brave” is going to be a flop. At least internationally it looks that way.

Pixar caved to pressure and made the hero of it’s newest film a young, red headed girl. The numbers so far say that feminists, white knights, and manginas are not going to be enough of an audience to make this film very profitable. There is a very good chance this will be the least profitable picture ever for Pixar, and they will have no one to blame but themselves for making a film young boys have no desire to see. And instead of thanking Pixar, feminists will just whine and complain that the men behind this movie didn’t do a very a good job in making it.

Of course feminists starting their own animation studio where they can produce all the feminist inspired animated films they want will be out of the question.

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Facepalm time again June 24, 2012 at 13:33

@Wilson

you don’t have to defeat all feminists, you just need to get most female sheeple to see that feminist shit doesn’t work for them. most of the feminists’ fellow travellers are just in it for what they can get personally. Men seem to be getting the message that there’s nothing there for them…slowly, but increasingly.

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The First Joe June 24, 2012 at 13:39

Besides all this anger, and backlash etc. putting time and effort into looking out for your fellow men should be an MRA priority.

Got a friend who’s going through divorce / break-up? Show him some moral support, look out for him, especially when the court process is ongoing and in the months afterwards. Let’s not forget the rate of men killing themselves goes right up around divorce / separation.

Just little stuff can matter – like asking how your mate’s doing in his newly rented shithole? Is he sorted for basic furniture etc. (a friend of mine recently came home from US and got divorced from his US wife…)
It’s not so much the stuff itself – it’s letting your friends know you give a shit and you’ve got their back if needed, that can mean a lot to a bloke when things get really dark.

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MRA June 24, 2012 at 13:40

Video games apart form other media, give the opportunity to interact with other gamers , this was first for 2 controls consoles then the online games so popular now, feminist complain for the lack of women on video games now because is a $$Big industry, the did not are when games were pixels and companies like Nintendo was selling and making boys to play games like crazy, these same boys are the ones who built the games industry, now, games are in HD 3D photo-realistic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMwk2Zi0c3o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TH5H34BMOg&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL98D2F13C3E59674F
they complain, they do not care about something until this make men happy and is making Billions.

Like crows, they go where they can take what dont belong to them.

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Mojo June 24, 2012 at 13:50

@ GBFM,

Good call on the rage of Achilles.

But when he quits fighting for Agamemnon, his rage is channelled into passive resistance; he fights by refusing to fight.

But his spectacular RAGE is only unleashed when his friend Patroclus is slain, and he re-enters the fight, not for the sake of Agamemnon or Menelaus, but for his own vengeance.

MGTOW is passive resistance – refusing to fight for the state or women.

MRA shall be the active rage unleashed.

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AfOR June 24, 2012 at 13:58

When I see wimminz doing naked protests that false rape accusers aren’t getting 99 years in joliet, that misandrist family court lawyers and judges aren’t being tarred and feathered and run out of town, and that jay leno isn’t making crass jokes about some wimminz who had her tits cut off by her husband…. THEN I will listen to the bitch.

Until that day they can stick their opportunistic solidarity up their asses.

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Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM) June 24, 2012 at 14:02

Hello Mojo,

Yes, long story short, Achilles fights for HONOR.

When King Agamemnon denies him HONOR by seizing hsi prize and disrespecting him, Achilles quits.

King A sends an envoy of Achilles’ friends to beg to have him return, promising him countless honors and prizes.

Achilles tells them, “No thanks, I receive my honor from Zeus.”

So too are MEN manning up and learning that their honor comes not from the corporate-state Matrix, but from God and Honor.

And yes, Achilles, knowing full well that he will die if he returns, yet returns to the fight, not for honors and medals and money, but for HONOR.

To avenge the death of his good friend.

And so it is that the fiat money printers and warmongerers sent forth the feminist movement to deconstruct the Great Books and Classics, and rob today’s men of their Honor.

By the way, in Neocon Bill Bennett’s BOOK OF MAN, the RAGE of ACHILLES is left out.

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CastleD June 24, 2012 at 14:14

Oh they’ve been going after video games lately, I’ve seen it at the video game forum NeoGaf.

This thing here that FeministFrequency is complaining about was a massive thread on NeoGaf, and there was quite a bit of push back in the thread.

“Tropes vs. Women in video games” it’s called, mainly about how female characters are sexualized, and how there is more variety of male characters. They would like more interesting female lead characters, and side characters too. I don’t mind that, but the Apex Fallacy comes into play here. They don’t care about the cannon fodder that is almost exclusively male. They’re not fighting for fair female representation of cannon fodder. Disposable males as enemies is not an issue for them, some of them even argue that it’s a part of “male privilege”. Being seen as disposable is a privilege. That’s the twisted mentality of these people. Being seen as too valuable to be reduced to cannon fodder if you’re a female, somehow is not privilege.

There was push back in that thread, basically with many guys wondering why this is an issue when many of the male characters in video games are awful too. If they didn’t know it already, those guys learned a lesson from that thread: the only time something matters is when it affects women. They have a vagina, you don’t. White knight pussy panderers will fight to the death for women, hopefully to get a few pats on the head.

Here’s the real deal:

Most video games are made to appeal to men because they are made by men and bought by men. For decades now women have appeared to be much less interested in games, to the point where they’ve shamed guys by calling them NerdsWhoCan’tGetLaid. What have women been doing the past few decades? Why didn’t they get into game design? Why don’t they take computer science? Easy, because they aren’t as good at video games, are less interested in them, and hate computer science.

Sometimes all you have to do is apply Occam’s Razor and you get your answers.

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Attila June 24, 2012 at 14:18

As a regular outdoor café regular and people-watcher – all I know is that 90 percent of young people nowadays (in this urban area) have some kind of disgusting tattoo on their body.

It’s pretty shocking to see one of them without one (at least from what they show).

We live in a HO-society from the ghetto-GO – pun intended.

I am afraid I won’t live long enough to see a true backlash – something à la Ayatollah Khomeini but in a North American context.

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djc June 24, 2012 at 14:29

I’m with Facepalm time again. I just don’t care about any of them any more. I’m living a happy life without a woman in it. Who needs them?

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Geography Bee Finalist himself June 24, 2012 at 14:35

Finally. Feminism will always be the HIV of social movements.

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Opus June 24, 2012 at 14:38

Perhaps whilst the Feminazis are attacking Video Games, they would care to justify the fast-selling paperback ever: Shades of Grey, which should you have failed to be aware of its contents concerns a 21 year old virgin who meets a Handsome Billionaire (aged under 30), the possessor also of a big dick and whose desire to the young lady’s delight turns out to be BDSM.

‘Is this the kind of book you would want your wife or servant to read?’ – I ask. This is Mommy Porn, apparently.

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W.F. Price June 24, 2012 at 14:42

Perhaps whilst the Feminazis are attacking Video Games, they would care to justify the fast-selling paperback ever: Shades of Grey, which should you have failed to be aware of its contents concerns a 21 year old virgin who meets a Handsome Billionaire (aged under 30), the possessor also of a big dick and whose desire to the young lady’s delight turns out to be BDSM.

‘Is this the kind of book you would want your wife or servant to read?’ – I ask. This is Mommy Porn, apparently.

-Opus

Well, the authoress apparently studied well and hit the g-spot just right. If you drop all your principles, it’s very easy to exploit male sexuality via visual porn. Same goes for female sexuality. Just requires a slightly different technique.

Opus June 24, 2012 at 15:02

@W.F.

Should we be donating $130,000 to study sexist portrayals of men in books. After all – I don’t know about you – I am not acquainted with any handsome billionaires, whether under thirty or otherwise. Our hero is clearly the sort of man who outside the lurid novel would be a prime candidate for a Rape or Sexual Assault allegation. That is serious for men; whereas portraying female video-games characters as Damsels in Distress with large breasts is not far from the mark – I at least have been asked for help by women in short skirts.

Fifty years ago it was apparently men who would acquire Lady C and read it surreptitiously for the two rather unerotic pages of smut that Lawrence provides, but female liberation has revealed that it is women who want written porn and the more force used by the hero the better. They seem to like it in real life too. Quite how a woman is being empowered (rather than a pathetic loser-pervert) whilst tied up and being whipped I am not quite sure but I am sure she must be.

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AmStrat June 24, 2012 at 15:13

from the wikipedia article on brave (film)

“Furthermore, concerns that young male viewers would not come to see an animated film with a female lead proved largely groundless with the estimated attending audience being 43% male”

Wrong, the lower movie sales of a children’s film prove it. When it’s a children’s film, the kids don’t go watch the movie by themselves independently, they have to go as a family in most cases. The parents ask the kids what movie they want to see and they can either all go see it together or not see it at all.

For the more visual explanation: In a family with two kids, Bobby and Suzie, Mom and Dad ask them what movie they want to see. Maybe Suzie wants to see Brave, but Bobby doesn’t really want to. What usually happens is one of two things: either the parents act like feminist + white knight and force Bobby to watch it with them, or they don’t go at all. Maybe they see something else. Of COURSE the Male viewership is going to be something like 43%; the boys that are there probably didn’t get to decide if they wanted to go or not and are likely sitting through a film they don’t find entertaining.

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TFH June 24, 2012 at 15:31

You mention one kickstarter project, a misandric one…

…But don’t forget the other one, a just one.

The Brian Banks documentary has achieved its $40,000 funding goal, but is still taking donations :

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1681576010/the-brian-banks-story?ref=home_popular

More visibility to this would be good at exposing the false rape industry.

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cecil henry June 24, 2012 at 15:47

There is a huge amount of JUSTIFIED anger out there at the opportunists who promote feminism. They do it in the name of power and envy.

Did anyone see this???: INCREDIBLE!!!

Camp of the Saints. Done no doubt to ‘end racism’.

Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians, White countries for everybody

EU Should ‘Undermine National Homogeneity’ Says UN Migration Chief

Brian Wheeler, BBC News, June 21, 2012

The EU should “do its best to undermine” the “homogeneity” of its member states, the UN’s special representative for migration has said.

Peter Sutherland told peers the future prosperity of many EU states depended on them becoming multicultural.

He also suggested the UK government’s immigration policy had no basis in international law.

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Kevin June 24, 2012 at 15:52

That’s a good point I’ve never considered. Video games are pretty much the only place that feminism can’t invade unless the principle consumers of them want it. You don’t have to play with girls, or listen to girls, or do other pansy shit. You probably can’t leave a football team and join a different one that has no women, you sure as hell can do that online. Don’t like all the teamwork talk? Play by yourself.

Feminists don’t like video games because; they can’t make them, they can’t force you to buy them or play them even if they did, they couldn’t ruin the experience for you unless you wanted them to.

You can do anything feminists don’t want you to do, and best of all you’re rewarded for it.

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Epoetker June 24, 2012 at 15:59

I saw Brave today. The feminist BS was all in the trailers; the movie itself is actually pretty stridently anti-feminist, as it’s the traditional mother who suffers for the choices of her rebellious feminist daughter.

“Mend the bond broken by pride” is pretty much the only message anyone of the feminist persuasion needs to hear nowadays, and it’s good to see Pixar didn’t take the lazy way out.

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Darryl X June 24, 2012 at 16:12

@ AmStrat -

That’s the way it was in my house growing up. My white-knight father was so afraid of my mother and two sisters that no matter what they did to abuse me, he would either turn a blind eye or enable them. He was and still is a coward. Of course when it came to arts including film or any other activities (family-oriented or not), the girls got to do whatever they wanted and I either tagged along or didn’t get to participate.

When it came to my sisters, expense was not a concern for my father. The sky was the limit. He would rationalize any excessive expense in the most bizarre and delusional way. Although a small fortune was invested (wasted) on my two sisters and their “educations” and “entertainment” and anything else you can think of (clothing anyone?), I pretty much lived in poverty in my own home.

Today my sisters are welfare whores who have done and accomplished nothing throughout their lives while I’m the one that went on to get four higher degrees in the natural sciences and have been gainfully employed in the same field for more than twenty-seven years and have made significant contributions to both the literary and visual arts.

Despite everything I’ve done for myself and with no help from my parents (I mean absolutely nothing), I live well below the threshold for poverty (there isn’t much money in the natural sciences and the literary and visual arts). Still, I accomplished something. A lot actually, especially when you consider how little was actually invested in me by my family and community and state and country.

Despite that my sisters have done nothing with the educations my parents paid for and despite that they have made no contributions whatsoever to society and are divorced and are just generally failures as human beings by every measure and are general liabilities to our culture and society, they have luxurious lives at the expense of taxpayers like myself and my parents. My father still perpetually criticizes me for being a failure in life while promoting my sisters as examples of success (their welfare whores or worse).

I’ve seen first-hand how people view feminists like my own sisters as examples of success despite all evidence to the contrary and when they are anything but. How fucked up is that? I’m afriad our society has a long way to go to overcome feminism and its consequences if my family is any example. And unfortunately it is.

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Take The Red Pill June 24, 2012 at 16:13

keyster June 24, 2012 at 12:28 –
“The breakthrough is occuring as more young men come to the realization that women are not their Partners, but rather their Competitors.”

The young men are awakening to the fact that women are NOT just their competitors — women are also their ENEMIES.
Anyone who hates you just for living, is someone I would classify as an enemy.

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Traveler June 24, 2012 at 16:16

I actually learned about her revolting Kickstarter project from one of my customers. As you can imagine, he was struck by just how outrageous her claims were…as am I. Has she EVER played a game, video, PC, or otherwise in her life? Where the hell is all this misogynist thinking she is talking about?
My guess is this: she has about as much a clue about gaming as those Fundie Christians did about D&D in the 70s and 80s, which pretty much equals squat. If she wants to come to the store I work at, I can tell her a thing or two…
How about the guys whose only time out with their friends is rolling some dice? The ones who secret away pocket money every month to pick up their comics? The children (male AND female) who wait all week to play a free boardgame with their fathers? Or even sadder, the men who look longingly at the newest PS3 game on the shelf before being dragged away by the nongamer female on their arm?
Oh, that’s right…gaming is evil because it takes men away from the ones who “matter most” for a few whopping hours. It doesn’t matter that this is the only fun they have, the only other thing they spend money on, or just gives something else for them to think about besides work and bills.
And us female gamers? Well, we’re just not “mature” yet…we’ll grow out of it soon enough…trade in our dice bags for makeup and our consoles for painful shoes. Sounds like fun, I’ll get right on that (NOT!)

You know what else sounds fun? Having my 18th level Tiefling Rogue perform a Sly Flourish on her…who wants to flank her so I can get my Sneak Attack bonus?

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Darryl X June 24, 2012 at 16:27

@ The Contrarian Expatriate -

“The USA beat communism but lost to feminism and it does not even realize it yet. Move abroad and watch the US socially implode from a safe distance.”

I can’t leave. My passport’s suspended like that of many other men who have lost their passports for child support arrears. That’s OK, though. I’ll get to see the implosion from the front row. And it won’t be just a “social” implosion but a “financial” and “legal” and “political” implosion too. The whole package.

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Ode June 24, 2012 at 16:38

Ryu

Good. Hatred and anger are power. Whenever you hear someone say “stop the hate”, it is a call to throw down your greatest weapons.

An angry man is motivated.

Anger is good because it is a step in the right direction but it is only the first step, not the end result. Men became angry because they were emotionally and financially invested into a system that has betrayed him.

Indifference will be the second step. You can’t get angry at something you don’t have a single dollar invested in. My advice to feminists is this, you’ll know when the jig is up when men stop getting angry and instead laugh at you.

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TFH June 24, 2012 at 16:45

Remember that most hard-core gamers are manginas…

Video game communities have a high mangina concentration.

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ConShawnery June 24, 2012 at 18:07

[b]sons of feminists tend to hate the ideology with a passion.[/b]

Ain’t that the truth. My mother is a feminist, as is my sister. They and their friends made my childhood and youth a living hell. All they managed to achieve is a deep-seated hatred of them in particular and feminism in general. The best thing about it was that the scales fell from my eyes early on and I was able to see women as they really are, even as a boy, and escaped many potential disasters thanks to this veritable superpower that the big bad bitch of Feminism bestowed upon me. Good job, feminists. You are your own worst enemy.

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AmStrat June 24, 2012 at 18:11

Epoetker wrote:

“I saw Brave today. The feminist BS was all in the trailers; the movie itself is actually pretty stridently anti-feminist, as it’s the traditional mother who suffers for the choices of her rebellious feminist daughter.

“Mend the bond broken by pride” is pretty much the only message anyone of the feminist persuasion needs to hear nowadays, and it’s good to see Pixar didn’t take the lazy way out.”

Guilty for thinking otherwise. First impressions, especially from commercials are strong. From the commercials for “Tangled” a similar movie but a “re-make” of the Rapunzel tale, the catch line was “She’s out of the tower, and they’re not putting her back” as though it were some feminist crusade against women staying at home, or fighting back against the patriarchy…

“Tangled” spoilers below… if that even matters…
I had to watch it while helping my sister with babysitting a child, so I saw that in truth it wasn’t so feminist (the whole “princess” thing will forever leave a bad taste in my mouth though) in that the antagonist was a woman, and… whatever her name was… let’s call her Rapunzel for time’s sake was just trying to see the lights her real parents set out to guide her home every year, nothing to do with being a “strong and independent woman” getting out of the evil patriarchy’s grasp.

Still, you market a movie in such a way, I’m going to assume more of the same in the movie itself.

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Darryl X June 24, 2012 at 18:11

@ The First Joe -

“Besides all this anger, and backlash etc. putting time and effort into looking out for your fellow men should be an MRA priority.”

I send them links to articles on this and related sites. I let them sleep in my extra bed. Whatever. Anything to show that there are still real humans around and that they are not alone.

It’s tough being a man in this or any “developed” country (I won’t call it civilized). It’s a hardscrabble life. And it’s going to get worse. And it doesn’t need to be that way. It’s just that some people (feminists) want more than everyone else and they don’t care how they get it.

As I’ve written before, I wish I had the financial resources for creating a place somewhere to which men who have been destroyed by feminists may escape and spend some time and recharge and reorient and take stock in themselves. Where they won’t get hassled by “law” enforcement.

But aside from moral support and small gestuers (which are important in and of themselves for sure), there must be something more “physical” and enduring so that men feel like they have a choice and don’t have to acquiesce to the feminist dystopian fascist police state. That they don’t have to succomb to it.

Certainly so they know that suicide is not an option. I often think about Thomas Ball and that he didn’t have to meet that fate and that is one more soldier in the MRM that was lost and didn’t need to be.

What I do know is this: the system is not repairable and real men cannot co-exist with it. I don’t think there is a way feminism will be defeated. Unless it collapses under the weight of its own hubris and decay. I do not believe there is a social, legal, political or financial solution to our dilemma.

I think men need a place to which they may escape. I’ve done a lot of research and I haven’t found anywhere in the world (and certainly not the US) that is a safe haven for innocent and hard-working men who have been victimized by our feminist dystopian fascist police state.

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Zuberi Tau June 24, 2012 at 18:37

Feminism was a hate movement from the very beginning. Had it really been about equality, it would be called egalitarianism not feminism.
There’s your hint, right there.
BTW, the pioneers of feminism in America were in fact, members of the KKK. Look up Margret Sanger for more details.

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Eric June 24, 2012 at 18:42

THF;
‘The Brian Banks Story achieved its $40,000 funding goal.’

That’s more good news and a sign that things are changing. To be honest, I didn’t think they’d make the goal considering how cash-strapped MRAs generally are (a lot of guys on the hook for alimony, &c.). Getting it broadcasted now without too much editing will be the next big hurdle.

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Darryl X June 24, 2012 at 18:46

@ Zuberi Tau -

“BTW, the pioneers of feminism in America were in fact, members of the KKK. Look up Margret Sanger for more details.”

David R Usher has written some great articles about relationship of feminims to the KKK and race relations and predation of the early “child support” system upon poor black families and its graduation to poor white families and then middle- and upper-class white familes to fund its ever-expanding bureaucracy.

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Eric June 24, 2012 at 18:47

Zuberi Tau:
Margaret Sanger was also a supporter of eugenics. It’s often overlooked that feminism is a female supremacy movement, and it also advocates women as the ‘owners of reproduction’. It is not a huge step from those positions to a ‘Master Race’ ideology.

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"The One" June 24, 2012 at 18:52

As Feminist hysteria is defeated, the end result of our work is not something amazing, it’s something ordinary – basic decency.

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Thos. June 24, 2012 at 18:53

Guys, I have no idea why I am posting this because it’s totally off topic but does anyone remember Billy Ocean? The guy was a hit machine back in the 70s and 80s.

He as just given me my new mission in life. This is a video of him last year at some festival. My new goals are to a) look and b) move as good as him when I reach his age. (I’m already somewhat envious of his depressingly full head of hair.)

Here he is belting out his UK hit from 1976, Love Really Hurts Without You.

Have a great Sunday evening, everyone.

http://youtu.be/JjmXtqN2nRI

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Eric June 24, 2012 at 18:53

Firepower:
‘Blogging is just like gaming.’

Since we all know you don’t like gaming, why do spend so much time blogging?

Really, dude all your posts sound like they come out of a Purple Cloud. Even your avatar looks like something in a kaleidoscope. Are you sure you’re really on the same planet as the rest of us?

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Huck Finn June 24, 2012 at 19:12

Any of you read the sci-fi Dune series by Frank Herbert? His last few books focused on the Bene Gesserit ‘witches’ and Honored Matres ‘whores’ both matriarchal organizations becoming the greatest warriors and most politically powerful groups in the universe. The times seemed to mirror the rise of feminism. Frank Herbert seemed to portray the BG in mostly a positive admirable manner.

The new series of Dune books by Herbert’s son and another author lack the writing power of Frank Herbert. I’m reading the first new book in the series ‘The Butlerian Jihad’ (a prequel). The two co-authors, while not attacking feminist extremism and craziness directly, do make some great critical swipes at a female character’s self-absorbed self-righteous superior entitled attitude that can be commonly seen among modern westernized feminist women in our lives. It gave me a few laughs reading between the lines.

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orecret June 24, 2012 at 19:17

Have always wondered why the Southern Poverty Law Center doesn’t refer to feminism as a hate movement.

Now, I know that they DEFER to feminism as a hate movement.

Thanks for clearing that up.

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Eric June 24, 2012 at 19:22

Thomas:
That reminded me a lot of my attitude about George Burns. I remember watching on TV back in the 90s, some stupid Hollywood ‘event’ where everyone was giving PC speeches and touting their ‘social awareness’. Then, in walks 100/yr old George Burns with a hot 20-something babe on his arm and a huge smoking cigar in his mouth and a tall glass of straight whiskey in his hand. The dimwit reporter asked:

‘George, what’s the secret of your longetivity?’

‘I lived this long by not following the advice I’ve been listening to tonight.’ he replied.

‘Quick! Let’s break for a commercial!!!!!!’

The guys back then knew the score. LOL

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W.F. Price June 24, 2012 at 19:23

Have always wondered why the Southern Poverty Law Center doesn’t refer to feminism as a hate movement.

-orecret

The SPLC are the John Birchers of the left. They hype up the “brown menace” for money. It’s a scam plain and simple, and it’s getting dated. Let the feminists have them.

dannyfrom504 June 24, 2012 at 19:43

i’m with mojo in his, “i just don’t fucking care anymore”.

i retire from the navy in just over a year. i’ve just finished this book, “Dirt Cheap Survival Retreat” written by a man who ended up having to live at his campsite after losing his job and getting cleaned out in his divorce. i’m buying an acre or 2 in southern louisiana when i retire, and i’m totally fucking doing this. from amazon-

“M.D. Creekmore’s motivation for finding a low-cost retreat was the need to live on a lot less money after he lost his job and got divorced. He started living in a travel trailer, parked on two acres he’d bought a few years back to use as a campsite and bug-out location, never dreaming he’d be living there full time. But he has called his trailer home for the past four years and says that “for the first time in my life, I’m actually content.”

Living off the grid in a travel trailer isn’t for everyone. But if you are looking for a way to own a debt-free home—and enjoy the security that comes with it—here’s the author’s dirt-cheap plan for finding suitable land; buying a used trailer; securing it against the elements and intruders; providing alternative power sources; dealing with water and waste issues; maximizing your space; and establishing a workable storage system for food, water, medicine, tools, and other equipment. The good news is that the author has done the hard part for you.”

as far as the MSM, look at the ratings….they’re dropping like flies. the only guys i know that watch MSM shows are married and they watch their wives shows. i mean seriously, do we need ANOTHER “empowered woman looking for love in the SMP” type show?

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Anonymous age 70 June 24, 2012 at 20:27

>>I’ve done a lot of research and I haven’t found anywhere in the world (and certainly not the US) that is a safe haven for innocent and hard-working men who have been victimized by our feminist dystopian fascist police state.

I dunno’, fella’. Rural Mexico sure seems to qualify, if you have a way to support yourself. Which is not a small problem. There is much more personal freedom here, and Nice Guys are hot here.

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Anonymous age 70 June 24, 2012 at 20:29

Speaking of video games, I am reminded of my son 8 or 10 years ago. I visited him, and he had some kind of shoot-em-up video game. He was partnered with a dearie, and the instant the game started, he always put a bullet in the middle of her forehead. Then, he’d laugh as if it were the funniest thing ever.

I told him he was a sick man, but I was also laughing as if it were the funniest thing ever.

Seriously, he told me he performed better with her dead than needing to be protected.

A great analogy for marriage 2.0, yes?

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Anonymous June 24, 2012 at 21:03

Mojo
Thinking like a leftist, though: why not attach ourselves to the GOP in order to subvert its gender politics and radicalize it in the MRA direction?
———————
might be easier than one thinks

there’s much that mgtow has in common with conservatism

minimal spending, hating high taxes (both seek ways to deny government as much revenue as possible), government is generally regarded as “THE ENEMY” to conservatives and when governments start putting the hurt on mgtowers they’ll soon feel the same

the main problem is getting fence sitter mras to understand that conservatism is NOT ‘pro-male’
since the left is clearly ‘anti-male’ they expect the right to be ‘pro-male’
and when they see that it isn’t they point and say ‘guilty as charged’

conservatism isn’t ‘pro-male’ or ‘pro-female’

but if the goal of men’s rights is [real] equality then why should that make any difference?

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Geography Bee Finalist himself June 24, 2012 at 21:21

I do however, want to apologize to Cameroonian chicks as while Cameroon may be the crucible of strains of HIV, some of which cannot be detected by blood donation test kits, feminism did not start with Cameroonians, Central Africans from the Central African Republic, Chadians, Congolese from the Republic of Congo, Equatorial Guineans, Gabonese, Nigeriens, or Nigerians.

Feminism started long before 1977 with whining white women.

I bet Man(gina)boobz, too retarded and too addled with projection issues to realize that in English, we pluralize “boob” with the letter “S,” NOT “Z,” will weigh in on this.

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Days of Broken Arrows June 24, 2012 at 21:32

There is a YouTube video by “GirlWritesWhat” that addresses this issue. She asks why women constantly feel the need to “monitor” what men are doing and feel the need to change things that aren’t there business. I forget what this video is called, but any of her diatribes are worth watching.

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Paul Murray June 24, 2012 at 21:34

“Oh, and just look at the workplace. Sexual harassment laws give women freedom to dress slutty and still have the nerve to complain when men sneak a peek.”

Has anyone noticed than in the office, men are expected to dress ankle to wrist?

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MRA June 24, 2012 at 21:41

The truth is guys who play games want their female characters to be either hot, large breasted, ass kicking types, or sexy non-feminist types that you save. If the gaming industry changes this dynamic to much due to Feminist/liberal pressure they will destroy a cash cow. And feminism will have yet another “victory.”

The reason for this claim now is because new generation of consoles are bringing realistic games, many wouldn’t see the difference,http://www.youtube.com/watchv=lILxrsb57_I&feature=player_embedded
the more advance technology gets, the most realistic these female features (breast, lips, hair) will become, meaning male will have female avatars to CONTROL with their hands, games is very related to virtual sex specially on Asia, many programmers use the same technology in games to make porn video games, games which are sold on Asia, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX6pjAnU1aI

Like Hentai and anime did in the last 10 years, this trend is a very high thread for feminists.

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walking in hell June 24, 2012 at 22:17

Guys I want to remind you that the only backlash that has happened is a backlash against the “doctrine” of feminism. The doctrine was used as the means to get ends into place. These ends were the different agencies and laws that are not used to oppress men. Here is a list: divorce laws, family courts, prisons, VAWA.

Phase two is rampant misandry through the media to keep these agencies and laws in place by influencing public opinion.

Mens rights activists have done nothing but recognize how feminism and misandry have destroyed men. The destructive agencies and policies are still firmly in place and the inertia and motion are still in the direction of more destructive agencies and policies.

Real change would mean removing the destructive agencies and policies or at least halting their destructive behavior. If you think this is going to happen, think again. These horrific entities won’t stop until men are completely destroyed.

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walking in hell June 24, 2012 at 22:22

@Darryl X

“As I’ve written before, I wish I had the financial resources for creating a place somewhere to which men who have been destroyed by feminists may escape and spend some time and recharge and reorient and take stock in themselves. Where they won’t get hassled by “law” enforcement.”

One possibility is finding the best state in America for men, and putting the word out so that men can move there and have some friends. Even something like a friendly refuge city would be helpful.

@Darryl X, I would like to correspond with you. My situation is similar and it helps to have someone to speak with.

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AndrewV June 24, 2012 at 22:28

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/taxi-scare-campaign-dumped-20120625-20xla.html

Taxi booking company 13CABS will abandon its scare campaign claiming a proposed increase in the number of hire cars on the road could lead to more sexual attacks on women following an overwhelming public backlash.

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walking in hell June 24, 2012 at 22:31

“I’m pretty sure that anti-feminism is a lot more widespread amongst youths and young men than most older people realize, especially as they are reaching out and finding explanations for the frustration they feel in a world that is hostile to masculinity.”

Yes it is. But does it matter.

Imagine that you finally figure out that the communist manifesto was a bunch of crap, then you find out that comrade Stalin used the communist manifesto as an excuse to put oppressive agencies into place in preparation for a final purge. Does it matter that you figured out the manifesto is false and you were duped? No, because it is too late.

This is the situation for men in America. It is too late. Don’t think that because feminism has been exposed as uncool and destructive that the quality of life for men is going to change for the better. Things are actually getting worse.

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walking in hell June 24, 2012 at 22:37

“There is a wave of anti-feminism coming, and it is growing organically, so let’s make sure we harness it and push that rage in the right direction, make it as effective as we can … but we have to say -how- and then act on that.”

Great idea. The guys must be careful. Any movement that looks even slightly threatening will be redirected and/or dissipated through controlled opposition, etc.

I for one don’t think any real “mens movement” has any chance of doing anything but only making things worse for men.

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dhanu June 24, 2012 at 23:05

OT: Found this on change.org a petition urging the school to stop painful electrical shocks on the students for doing even the most normal activities like closing the eyes for more than 15 seconds on the desk, pulling apart a loose piece of thread, tearing an empty loose paper cup, etc.: http://www.change.org/petitions/judge-rotenberg-educational-center-please-stop-painful-electric-shocks-on-your-students

I wonder what the parents of those students look like! It’s obvious the authorities ain’t helping. So why don’t they unite in a group and protest? Is everyone so apathetic to a genuine cause unless it happens to one’s own children?

Basically, I view this practice as making the future generation of the children as conformist to the authorities as possible; they’d be taught from the get go that anyone thinking differently, or even for their own self, would be severely shocked. And given that the described activities are part of the boys’ behavior (and also, given that there would have been a strong backlash were girls being electrocuted), it seems like an experiment to test the ploy of bringing about a fundamental ‘change’ in the male behavior, which, if succeeded (gone unchallenged), would soon be employed everywhere, globally. At first, it would be ‘equality’ based; later on, as the women’s organizations through their political reach make it illegal to do to the girls, it would be exclusively for the male students only (because there’s no government approved men’s organization and men do not have a voice in policy matters).

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walking in hell June 24, 2012 at 23:50

Here is a link showing some new feminist tactics in the American Christian churches. This is very creepy and shows just how evil things are getting. The evil doers are absolutely preying upon the most vulnerable.

http://fullofgraceseasonedwithsalt.blogspot.cz/2012/06/commanded-to-operate-like-princess.html

http://cmd-n.org/

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buggeroff11 June 25, 2012 at 01:52

Facepalm time again..omg talk about a copy of my life for quite a long time now you are just so correct and spot on….it’s so good to see the non sheepies numbers growing faster than many people realise.

For me as a hetrosexual male the Key to removal from the femanastie matrix was the disconnection of the brain ‘hard wired’ acceptance that being with the vast majority of females at work & play in this current society was a good thing.
Bugger that, & although you still walk through shit misandry every day, I am not bullsh..ing when I tell you that life is so, so much more enjoyable when females are not important to you anymore.

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Opus June 25, 2012 at 02:04

I sometimes wonder whether Feminism is essentially an American fad. In England, women have always had (by comparison with Islamic and perhaps other European countries) considerable freedom to do as they please. No one minds what they do; no one cares. For example I today received a free local magazine in the post which, reporting of the results of the Borough Council election in May, contained small biographies of the six new Council members. All are men – and I suppose I must add, all white and middle-aged. For what it’s worth, in the election, I had in my ward a choice of five candidates to vote for and cast my vote for the only woman candidate – she was unsuccessful and was thus not elected. I knew her anyway and she does what her husband tells her, and as she had come fifth and last the previous year I felt confident there was no way she could be elected.

The idea of my local council being run by a Feminst-Lesbian clique is laughable. There is however at least one female councilor (out of about 48) who was described to me as ‘not the sort of person you would want to invite to a party’ – by one of her fellow councillors – what a put-down!

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actanonverba June 25, 2012 at 02:10

Good article. I really hope the young men now put 2 and 2 together. They’re the future.

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Ray Manta June 25, 2012 at 02:28

Days of Broken Arrows wrote:
There is a YouTube video by “GirlWritesWhat” that addresses this issue. She asks why women constantly feel the need to “monitor” what men are doing and feel the need to change things that aren’t there business. I forget what this video is called, but any of her diatribes are worth watching.

It’s called “The Tyranny Of Female Hypoagency”. Stardusk has a video about it too. Her belief (which I agree with) is that women have an innate tendency to infiltrate male spaces.

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Just a Man June 25, 2012 at 03:47

@ CastleD

Man, GAF is such a backward ass forum. It’s truly a cesspool of whiteknights and manginas. I don’t see how men aren’t fed up with the bullshit that goes on there.

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Just1X June 25, 2012 at 03:47

@Danny

by the time you remove “empowered woman looking for love in the SMP” and “good looking young woman with supernatural powers kicking male butts whilst surrounded by adoring, attractive men” shows for the schedule, TV is pretty bleak looking.

Feminists and other scumbags have overused the guilt thing; male guilt, white guilt, unmarried guilt, religious guilt…automatic guilt is dead and gone. This opens the door to replying to concerns / problems / issues with “I do not care” or “I do not believe you”. It used to be considered rude to be so blunt, but if ‘you’ aren’t prepared to tell the truth to me, you best not expect a polite reply.

(p.s. I am ‘Facepalm time again’, I didn’t notice that it wasn’t using Just1X, but no harm done)

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Brigadon June 25, 2012 at 05:53

seriously, I was watching something called… ehh… ‘criminal minds’, I think, and i found myself rooting for the killer, again and again. phrases like “Bitch deserved that’, and ‘stupid white whore shouldn’t have been walking alone through murder central with a fucking bag of money and a shoot me sign taped to her back’ kinda destroyed the drama for me.

Once you start noticing the feminist propaganda in every single part of virtually every new TV show, they rapidly lose any and all appeal and relevance.

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Epoche* June 25, 2012 at 05:55

Certainly so they know that suicide is not an option. I often think about Thomas Ball and that he didn’t have to meet that fate and that is one more soldier in the MRM that was lost and didn’t need to be.

What I do know is this: the system is not repairable and real men cannot co-exist with it. I don’t think there is a way feminism will be defeated. Unless it collapses under the weight of its own hubris and decay. I do not believe there is a social, legal, political or financial solution to our dilemma.

I think men need a place to which they may escape. I’ve done a lot of research and I haven’t found anywhere in the world (and certainly not the US) that is a safe haven for innocent and hard-working men who have been victimized by our feminist dystopian fascist police state.
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maybe we could create our own religion?

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Towgunner June 25, 2012 at 06:47

This feminists attempt to try to move into video games is understandable. Consider that, and these numbers are rough approximations, a major motion picture is released and does ~ 30-40mm over the weekend. Meanwhile, Medal of Honor does ~ $350mm in the first 24 hours. Hold that thought. Now, across the dinosaur msm, from tv, infotainment (news) and movies, viewership is declining. I ascribe 85-90% of feminism’s “success” to the control of the media because it is effectively the myth-making industry. Gents it’s not because women are better than you…they’re made to look better than you under comfortable and controlled conditions…in some studio in hollywood. The idealized female archetype exists in this abstract and not in reality…all the more reason to dismiss feminism. Whereas, the male archetype actually exists. Thanks to the internet, digital tech and on-demand the msm and, importantly, its control over myths is now in an irreversible secular decline. feminists know this…again look at the comparisons – $40mm over a weekend vs. $350mm over a day. A new media paradigm is here and I think it will lead to a better future. The fact that nbc, abc, cbs (all feminist enclaves) still exists is proof that our country, culture and economy is controlled and managed. A free market would have shot these networks into oblivion long ago. Instead, since we’re a corporatocracy, these zombie companies leach off of the system, usurping real progress – sounds like feminism. It matters not, you can’t stop the inevitable. I think the feminist move into video games will prove to be too little too late.

How can the MRA have an impact:

A company should have the freedom to make products that respond to the demands of their customers, period. So long as the company’s products are not fraudulent, don’t cause harm or isn’t part of some unethical enterprise such as child porn, then they should be free to make products that cater to their target demographic. If a gaming company decides on their own to be more female-centric (FYI the Wii was supposed to penetrate the feminine market) without coercion that’s fine…we’ll all cringe at first and then watch as the project fails. This is not a male vs. female issues, as the feminists are trying to make it, this is about independence and free enterprise.
Frankly, I think we should drag the boys away from the games, throw them into a remote area and make them learn to survive…teach them spear fishing etc.

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alpha June 25, 2012 at 07:02

Somehow, some gamers caught wind of the project, and launched a concerted online attack on the feminist, vandalizing her Wikipedia page and YouTube site and posting rude pictures, among other things.

*APPLAUSE*

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Ollie June 25, 2012 at 07:30

I was amazed to see that that ‘Backlash’ book was actually written in the early 90′s. Aside from entertainers making jokes about ugly, humorless fembots and social conservatives attacking the pro-choice movment, the so-called backlash wasn’t very much of one. If anything, they seemed to be attacking the tangential aspects of the fembot occupation.

Now, we have a movement that is actually calling the ‘bots out and pointing out the very real threat this misandric hate machine poses to society.

Every day, I wake people up, both online and IRL. Over the span of the last 2 years, I have moved many men (and some women) from ambivalence to a position of high antagonism toward the fembot hate machine. I will continue to spread the word, because each person I wake up is another person ready to stop the injustice and hate wrought by the fembots.

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Anonxcf June 25, 2012 at 07:55

There’s a couple posts above citing hardcore gamers as manginas.

To a degree, that’s true, but generally only of the youngest. Gamers are becoming aware (mostly through the “forever alone” crowd, not the MRM normally) of the privilege females gain socially. Mostly this is from the perspective of “a nice guy is looking for a relationship” or “I’m a terrible person because I’m the only one not able to get sex”, because the age range skews a bit younger, but it’s absolutely still happening.

If society’s gender roles are broken, the ones to feel that injury most keenly are the ones graduating on the seen with fully functional hormones and false education that tells them that girls and boys are equal (and girls are a little more equal, you go!)- because they are pretty much being thrown out on their chins by society, and you can pretty much watch it happen over and over.

I occasionally hear fellow gamers imply that they would stop gaming in a moment if they had a girlfriend, or that this is clearly the absolute last thing they would do if they were “popular” (which to them means essentially, getting laid with the pretty chicks). Mostly this is also younger guys. Games keep coming out, and the better ones offer a myriad of activities and a very deep experience in some cases- the truth is that most gamers (male and female) game because they like gaming, and it’s a legit hobby. In some cases, they just don’t know it yet, or think that they have stumbled into it out of default, which is unfortunate.

And briefly on the topic of the feminist who will spend six figures QQing about “tropes” or whatever: while trivially her cause is horseshit, the “pretty girls good” theme is to a high degree caused by female gamers.

Here’s some links to images in world of warcraft. In that game, every race by gender combination has a base model, to which differing details are added (what the character is wearing, what weapons are equipped, etc.). Here is the modern model for a female troll and a male troll:
Male troll:
http://www.gamerdna.com/uimage/AAwI4Uc/full/troll_male250x-gif.gif
Female troll:
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091015160744/wowwiki/images/9/9b/High_Priestess_Arlokk_Troll_form.jpg

Note how the male looks monstrous, and the female not so much. How did it come to that?

Here’s the female troll in alpha:
http://sixdee.net/x/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/troll.alpha_.jpg

So if they started with two lumbering creatures with long monstrous limbs, how did the female trolls become human shaped in every possible way while the male trolls are misshapen monsters still?

Simply put, female gamers, by and large, refuse to play ugly characters. Blizzard looked at the feedback and realized that having the monster races have monster-looking female characters would simply drive away female gamers.

So a huge part of why female game characters are hot is to sell enough copies to women. No patriarchy explanation required.

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Anonxcf June 25, 2012 at 08:04

*scene

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Doc June 25, 2012 at 08:24

@Expatriate

Have to agree with you… I’m a lot older than most of the guys here – pushing 50 – and I think the US turned the point-of-no-return back in the 80′s. Although, I personally love the present set up – women raised without a strong male figure crave acceptance by older men who are successful, which is why I have been dating women in the 18-25 age bracket since I was in that bracket. Of course, before then I was nailing women in their late 30′s who wanted to have a kid, and I was too dumb to realize what a bind I could have been in. Fortunately, most of them were married and didn’t want to give up that gravy train for a dumb college kid with a hard cock.

These days, I have been slowly moving things off-shore to get it out of Uncle Sam’s grubby reach, and looking for a place to retire. Of course my “vision” isn’t the standard one – I plan on having kids, with at least a couple of live-in women catering to my needs. While that isn’t too different from my life in the states. there is no way I would have a kid in the states with a woman – since they will rake you over the coals. I’m seriously thinking Argentina – although I liked Brazil till they went down the tubes recently. So it’s a moving target…

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Migu June 25, 2012 at 08:32

Backlash indeed. Now the gains can be consolidated.

Back to step 1……

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keyster June 25, 2012 at 08:41

the main problem is getting fence sitter mras to understand that conservatism is NOT ‘pro-male’
since the left is clearly ‘anti-male’ they expect the right to be ‘pro-male’
and when they see that it isn’t they point and say ‘guilty as charged’

These aren’t “fence sitters” as much as they are indocrinated Leftists (except for the feminist part). They’ll never embrace Conservative ideology, so instead they MGTOW or claim “the whole system is corrupt, what’s the use in doing anything at all.”

Some of these Leftist/MRA’s attempt to position men as “cannon fodder”, “disposable utilities” or a heretofore unrecognized “victim class” that’s always being “shamed” by SoCons. While this narrative seems to appeal to a broad range of Leftist/MRA’s (many of whom happen to be Canadian), it’ll never catch on in the mainstream. It assumes true gender equality can one day be achieved, if you highlight the explicit inequities enough. And it never can be or will be – as long as women give birth and men do not.

“The Democrat Party is the party of women and the Republican Party is the party that hates women.” – Debbie Wasserman-Shultz, DNC Chair

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keyster June 25, 2012 at 08:51

I’m seriously thinking Argentina – although I liked Brazil till they went down the tubes recently. So it’s a moving target…

The more affluent South of the Border countries are hopelessly Feminist. You’d have to live in more rural areas to escape her clutches. So if that’s the case – – you might as well live in more rural areas in the USA. Rio, Buenos Aires, Santiago, etc. matters not; all the more urban areas are well infected. If I’m going to live in the Outback, I’d prefer my own country, which I’m most familiar with.

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Firepower June 25, 2012 at 09:50

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Sun June 25, 2012 at 10:48

Hate the binary spectrum but here we go.

“the main problem is getting fence sitter mras to understand that conservatism is NOT ‘pro-male’
since the left is clearly ‘anti-male’ they expect the right to be ‘pro-male’
and when they see that it isn’t they point and say ‘guilty as charged’”

True conservatism is not pro male in any individualistic sense. There is two form of “conservatism,” traditionalist and nietzschean/meritocratics.

Traditionalist want to look at things holistically and collectively. The emphasis is that men and women need to work together, otherwise society will fall.

They believe is a organismic community where each part has a particular role. Men and women are bickering trying to find equality and do not see the larger picture outside of their own self interest. The best societies reinforce what is need to make a society function and do better then others surrounding it.

Often times, it is said by traditionalist, opponents of traditionalist confuse mutual respect and reciprocity with equality.

Traditionalist look to the past (tradition) to cultivate wisdom. Past ways of doing things have endured Time and are believed to be the best way of doing things.

The past isn’t seen as some abstract reality that has no bearing by Traditionalist. But, what was done in the past is the same as what is being done now, in that people are trying to make life work. If something didn’t work, it is believed it wouldn’t have been carried on (or carried on less), because people needed survive. It has not without stood “test of Time” from a chronological standpoint.

They look to the past and argue that it is natural for men and women to complement as two unique parts of a larger whole. That means they recognize the differences that both men and women have and utilize those natural differences to make society work better.

Time endures.

You’re right. The MRA is liberal uro-centric ideology based upon “me” without any regards to how society will be affected as a whole (including women, and children)–beyond liberating the fellow “males” from society, from what traditionalist believe is needed to run a society for everyone.

It takes two sexes to run a society.

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Towgunner June 25, 2012 at 10:57

@ Ollie:

I too was perplexed, once, about the “backlash” book coming out when it did. To me it speaks to the contrived and artificial nature of the feminist movement. It rings too lock-step for me…and suggests that the feminists were literally referring to a play book of cause and reaction. Stuff like this underscores the popular notion that feminism is a socialist/marxist movement…I believe it is. Having lived in the 90s I don’t think there was a “backlash” then because people didn’t take feminism seriously. S

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Sun June 25, 2012 at 11:04

“the main problem is getting fence sitter mras to understand that conservatism is NOT ‘pro-male’
since the left is clearly ‘anti-male’ they expect the right to be ‘pro-male’
and when they see that it isn’t they point and say ‘guilty as charged’”

Conservative of this modern era are just a lighter shade of blue with sprinkle dust of right wing in them.

I used to be liberal and believed this society is primary conservative strictly based upon our capitalist values. However this is very wrong and is based on a very narrow chronological view of history–as if human kind from the 1950s, not even counting believing it started in the mid to late 1700s.

What modern “Conservatives” don’t seem to understand is that America was founded on Liberal principles and is a Liberal society from its very founding. The conservatives are just an older liberal from a earlier generation.

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Darryl X June 25, 2012 at 11:06

@ Epoche –

“maybe we could create our own religion?”

I already have one.

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keyster June 25, 2012 at 11:16

What modern “Conservatives” don’t seem to understand is that America was founded on Liberal principles and is a Liberal society from its very founding. The conservatives are just an older liberal from a earlier generation.

You’re ill-educated or have a very pecular definition of modern “Liberalism”.
Read John Locke, Montesquieu and de Tocqueville.
Their philosphies informed the framers.

The worm started to turn with hints from Teddy Roosevelt and then Wilson and then in earnest with FDR.

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Darryl X June 25, 2012 at 11:17

@ walking in hell -

Great idea. Finding the best state would be a wonderful idea. Or another country which is receptive to concerns of the MRM and recognizes we still have something to offer civilization and that we are not disposable and maybe one that would love to relieve the US of its burden of men who it doesn’t seem to want. One that understands that the US has denied passports to these men and will accomodate them anyway. One that might be receptive to male refugees (Russia, Ukraine?). Throughout my career (until the child support debacle), if my employer was not satisfied with my performance for whatever reason, I just let my feet do the talking and I found another employer. If the US is not satisfied with all the amazing contributions and sacrifices men have made throughout the centuries and wants to punish them under false pretenses of their alleged abuses and irresponsibility (particularly the past forty to eighty years), fuck it. Find a country (or state) that recognizes our value and will accept us. Or even a particular county. The US can see what a bunch of worthless feminists and manginas and white-knights will do for it when there aren’t any real men around to do any work. I’m at [email protected]

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Brigadon June 25, 2012 at 12:05

Darryl-

They are already feeling the pinch. Despite the employment problem, certain maintenance careers are looking desperately for employees. HV/AC qualified people, talented electricians and plumbers, general maintenance jacks of all trades and the like are in critically short supply all over.
Even auto mechanics and heavy equipment engineers are being desperately wooed. The maintenance infrastructure is already starting to break down, as hiring quotas and minority awareness practices, harassment firings and ‘workplace comfort’ adjustments have left unqualified women in place as maintenance ‘supervisors’ of departments that have, literally, no ability to do what they were created to do.

The ‘heavily educated, totally incompetent’ feminist workbase is already being shown for what it is. It might take years for the pinch to get tight enough, but I think that realization is starting to wedge it’s way into the heart of corporate culture that female employes do not work.

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Brigadon June 25, 2012 at 12:08

BTW, Utah doesn’t cooperate with east or west coast authorities in extraditing ‘child support offenders’. As long as you don’t go around egregiously violating laws, they will simply garnish your wages without sending jackbooted cops around to ‘collect’ you for the 150k they say that you owe. Salt lake has been a safe haven for me for 12 years, and as an artist I pay my taxes and don’t have to garnish myself.

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Peter South June 25, 2012 at 13:28

If this is winning I’d hate to be losing.

Still, public opinion has changed a lot for what that’s worth.

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Ollie June 25, 2012 at 14:07

@Firepower: we’re not “Winning” by any stretch of the imagination, but we are getting somewhere. I’m glad you are keeping a cool head in all this self-congratulatory excitement here, but we have to reflect on the little successes every now and then. The fembots are a cancer to society, and we live in that society. Like all cancer patients, we can either fight for our lives or simply curl up and die. Cancer is tough to stamp out, but every little bit helps. Every bit we claw back from the well-funded armies of hate is worth it.

Nevertheless, you are right. We are not winning – yet. We will either win against the corruption and lies or we will perish, but there is a long, difficult road ahead no matter what we do.

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Pops June 25, 2012 at 14:45
MRA June 25, 2012 at 15:06

For the more visual explanation: In a family with two kids, Bobby and Suzie, Mom and Dad ask them what movie they want to see. Maybe Suzie wants to see Brave, but Bobby doesn’t really want to. What usually happens is one of two things: either the parents act like feminist + white knight and force Bobby to watch it with them, or they don’t go at all. Maybe they see something else. Of COURSE the Male viewership is going to be something like 43%; the boys that are there probably didn’t get to decide if they wanted to go or not and are likely sitting through a film they don’t find entertaining.

Don’t forget the tears, girls at young age know crying gets them what they want, and boys (brothers) are forced to make sacrifice to not make her cry.

That is why boys are forced to place sisters but not reverse.

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Cinque Powell June 25, 2012 at 15:23

I appreciate your post. Man, one of the links you posted about the backlash coming from children of feminists made me laugh my ass off.

“It was then that I commented to them yet again that I am a feminist and that their father is a feminist, adding this time that we fully expected that they, too, would be feminists. And here’s what my oldest, age 10, said: “I’m a boy. Why would I need to be a feminist?”

I salute that young man, who at the age of 10 already gets it. Just thinking about how pissed off that made his insane, overbearing mother and his spineless, feminist father whom the author called Viking (nothing warrior like about him though) brought joy to my day.

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freebird June 26, 2012 at 03:39

@towgunner
“Frankly, I think we should drag the boys away from the games, throw them into a remote area and make them learn to survive…teach them spear fishing etc.”

That sir is an honorable thought.
That thought has been expected and pre-empted by radical feminism,IE:
Demonization of all males.

Case in point:
Big brothers foundation being run by women because (s0ciety) cannot “trust” men not to be diddlers.

This universal negative thought pattern of men has become so pervasive that most men believe it themselves.
(except for themselves)

Hell of a fwd thinking to use men’s natural competitiveness to turn them against each other in such a fashion.

Our downfall has been well planned in advance by some very powerful minds.

To the boys left out there w/o a lifeline:
I am truly sorry,but I’m not going to throw myself under the bus to help you,you are ON YOUR OWN.

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freebird June 26, 2012 at 03:45

Another case in point,look at the media coverage on this recent case of a coach being convicted on some child fiddling shit.
It’s on everyones lips and eyes.
Any cases of women fiddling with boys comes to mind?
Nothing,silence,cricketts.

If you’re reading this realize the media is shaping your thought process.
To a greater extent than you may be aware.

Makes my gut wrench.

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dannyfrom504 June 26, 2012 at 04:01

@ Just1X
sorry, i meant to reference you not Mojo for the comment.

notice what shows are doing well in rating- most of them are on cable. many are sci-fi and fantasy base i.e. game of thrones. MSM channels are going under, i don’t have ANY male friends that watch the major networks outside of sporting events. men by and large seem to turning their back in said networks. once they start to realize why they’re losing revenue….they MIGHT make changes. but i’m not holding my breath. all i watch is history, discover, travel, food (except for the GOD AWFUL cakes shows), natgeo, outdoors (hunting fishing channel in norf florida), military, G4, and my HBO/showtime shows.

the way i see it- if feminists can be so blunt, why can’t i? secondly, i really don’t care. seriously. i’ve sat giggling as i have some 40 year old woman have a tantrum in public over “red pill/MGTOW” principles. hell, she was so worked up they kicked her out the establishment.

nuking hamsters in public should be a new sport.

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Darryl X June 26, 2012 at 04:19

@ freebird -

“To the boys left out there w/o a lifeline:
I am truly sorry,but I’m not going to throw myself under the bus to help you,you are ON YOUR OWN.”

Thanks, buddy. Ever see “Band of Brothers”? LOL I hope you realize that my philosophy has always been that if you are aren’t helping to solve the problem then you are complicit with the problem. All it takes for evil to prosper is for a few good men to do nothing. I doubt that since you are posting on this thread that if push came to shove you wouldn’t throw yourself under the bus. You’re not fooling anyone.

“Our downfall has been well planned in advance by some very powerful minds.”

Actually, their minds aren’t that powerful because manipulative people tend not be all that intelligent. Manipulation doesn’t equal intelligence. Intellect and scholar will always trump manipulation and deceipt. Usually takes a little longer though but not always. That’s why civilization requires considerable effort and vigilence to maintain. There are always short-sighted forces fighting to destroy it. But the benefits are considerable for its maintenance.

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Ode June 26, 2012 at 04:43

Sun says

It takes two sexes to run a society.

No it doesn’t.
It takes one sex to produce babies and to keep the house clean while the responsibilty of actually running a society can entirely be placed on the shoulders of the other sex. History shows us many examples of this.

Even in today’s feminist world women still do not “run a society”,
women do not grow the food, drive the trucks, stock the warehouses, mine the coal, produce the electricity, build cities, maintain the freeways, create businesses which provide jobs for the economy, simply stated women do not “run a society”, it’s still and always will be done by men.

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Darryl X June 26, 2012 at 05:13

@ Brigadon -

“BTW, Utah doesn’t cooperate with east or west coast authorities in extraditing ‘child support offenders’.”

Great to know. Have an extra bed or a couch I can sleep on. BTW, what kind of artist are you?

I understand that many counties in Oregon have that attitude that if you owe child support in say New York, they won’t throw you in jail there are extradite you or suspend your license because they understand that if you are there working and paying taxes, it’s to their benefit and they want honest, hard-working men there supporting their economy even if a stupid state like New York doesn’t want them. Also, I understand that Oklahoma does NOT promote or support jailing men for child support arrears. I have no independent official confirmation of these circumstances but have just heard them anecdotally from other men. But it appears not every jurisdiction in the US or the world is irrational. However, as I’ve written before, that can change rapidly say with martial law or collapse of the economy.

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Darryl X June 26, 2012 at 05:36

@ freebird

“Another case in point,look at the media coverage on this recent case of a coach being convicted on some child fiddling shit.
It’s on everyones lips and eyes.
Any cases of women fiddling with boys comes to mind?
Nothing,silence,cricketts.”

False allegations against men are common. The qualities which define men and distinguish them from women and which promote civilization have simply become criminal.

I think about recent cases like Assange and Strauss-Kahn where these men are obviously innocent and the women obviously made false allegations against them and entire country administrations were clawing over each other to condemn these men for political gain. And there was no punishment for the women who made the false allegations even when they did it for profit incentive and it was deliberate and fraud.

Sandusky was convicted. He insists he is innocent. I’m not saying whether he is innocent or guilty. I wasn’t at the trial and don’t know any details of the case. What I will say is this: I am innocent of all the crimes that I was alleged to have committed. Absolutely innocent. Not only were my accusers not able to prove their allegations BUT I was able to prove my innocence AND prove that my accusers conspired to make the false allegations against me to defraud me and to promote adultery. And taht they abused my children to do it. Still, I was convicted and punished, giving up my entire life. Health care, freedom (passport suspended), a life-time of poverty, loss of my children, etc… Pretty harsh punishment for someone who is completely innocent. And no punishment for the false accusers, neither for their false allegations nor other egregious crimes.

An important element of the Sandusky case is the number of accusers. From what I can tell, there is no real evidence that the accusations against him are true or accurate. You’d think that with all the allegations against him, there would be some concrete physical evidence and not just a bunch of “witnesses” making allegations. And on top of that, there is evidence that the police were leading witness. Lots of people are easily mislead. Particulary women but some men too. It makes them feel important and wanted. Who cares what the consequences are for the poor schmuck they’re screwing over.

Many men in this country are victims of false allegations. Many people in this country are stupid and do not understand what they are seeing when they see it. Or they see what they want because they profit or there is advantage in seeing what they want. For instance, a former supervisor of mine believes that he was sexually abused when he was a boy by a Catholic priest because the priest patted him on the head. Maybe the priest is a pedophile and maybe he isn’t, but patting a boy on the head isn’t evidence of pedophelia or a crime.

When people see something, especially idiots and psychopaths, they misinterpret it either unintentionally because they don’t understand or deliberately for profit and advantage. Approximately fifty-percent of our population is so disposed. So coming up with a bunch of people to make false allegations against someone because they see advantage for themselves in doing so is hardly unimaginable. As a matter of fact, it is normal. Throw in law enforcement which is addicted to power and control to lead the idiot to a conclusion s/he never would have gotten to on his/her own and you have a recipe for disaster. That is why men are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.

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Darryl X June 26, 2012 at 05:44

@ keyster -

“If I’m going to live in the Outback, I’d prefer my own country, which I’m most familiar with.”

I agree. Better the evil you know than the evil you don’t know.

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Darryl X June 26, 2012 at 07:25

@ Ollie & Firepower -

No we are not winning. And likely no matter how “winning” is defined, we won’t win. But that there are sites and resources like these and men discussing recent and past developments and the consequences of feminism is encouraging. That men are no longer complacent and that they are no longer willing to acquiesce to the status quo and our culture of misandry which feminism has created is a huge step in the right direction. I’d rather be going on a path that is headed in the right direction even if I know I’ll never get to my destination rather than be on the wrong path and will likely reach a destination that I don’t want to reach.

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Josh the Aspie June 26, 2012 at 07:48

Hey all, I just ran across an article showing backlash of women against feminism.

http://townhall.com/columnists/monacharen/2012/06/26/grow_up_life_has_tradeoffs/page/full/

Apparently a fair number of women are starting to get clued in to the big lie.

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Ollie June 26, 2012 at 08:13

@Darryl X: Good point. We are moving forward in the right direction.

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Sun June 26, 2012 at 09:26

@ Ode

If you don’t think just the factor of producing children is helping run a society then I don’t know what to say. Children are the future of any society and without them, the society dies. Women are the only sex to do this. Not to mention that children when they grow up have to replace the various functions of their parents and older community.

Producing and raising the next generation is the probably the most important task there is.

Producing electricity only occurred since 1767 and from an evolutionary standpoint is pretty new and not actually required for a society to function.

Most of the things are part of a modern society but are not part of the basic building blocks that how a society runs.

Producing children occurred since 200,000,000 years and without it, you wouldn’t be alive today.

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Sun June 26, 2012 at 09:28

@ Ode

Sorry I meant to say 200,000 years ago no 200 million.

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Josh the Aspie June 26, 2012 at 10:00

Actually, Women are not the only sex that can produce children. A woman by herself cannot produce children. It takes a woman and a man to produce children in the first place, and a member of either sex can raise them.

In fact, the outcomes for the child are the best when they have a stable relationship in which to learn from members of both sexes. The ideal one is to be raised by his own father and mother, with assistance from an extended family, but great benefit can still be derived from, for example, being raised by father and mother alone without the extended family, or a Grandmother and Grandfather.

To attribute the creation and nurturing of a child only to the woman is horrible sexism against men.

And while I agree that children must be produced at some time in each generation for the next generation to take hold, and a society to continue, you need food and potable water not only every year, but more frequently than even every -week- for a society not to die off even more quickly. In our present biosphere air takes care of it’s self (plants, etc).

I’d say that production or procurement of food and potable water far outweighs procreation as far as the immediate and sustained needs of a society go.

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Anonymous age 70 June 26, 2012 at 11:14

>>Real change would mean removing the destructive agencies and policies or at least halting their destructive behavior. If you think this is going to happen, think again. These horrific entities won’t stop until men are completely destroyed.

Many men agree with you. I am not sure I do. The great number of men participating in the marriage strike may not have halted their destructive behavior, but it certainly does reduce the number of men affected by it.

The reason there are such extreme attacks on MRA’s et al is because the withdrawal of men from marriage and society is really hurting. That means we are winning.

@Walking In Hell

The reason you think nothing is happening is because you have your own idea what men should be doing. The reason they are not doing what you think they should do is because that is what has been tried for the last 45 years. And, it never worked.

Men today are doing something different. They are dropping out of marriage; they are expatting; there is a marriage strike no matter what men who don’t understand calculus tell you. And, society is desperate, which is why the hostile attacks on MRA boards such as this one. If MRA’s were not winning, there would be no massive attack on MRA’s.

I saw a few weeks ago that a big law firm went broke. This is a good sign. I can’t say it’s all a result of marriage strike, but there will be more. Law firms like any other business expect a growth in revenue and profits every year, which in part is why they invent new ways to create conflict in divorce. There is simply no more money to be had. You can tell an unemployed divorced man he owes $300,000 in legal fees, and you can put him in jail for not paying, but that does not collect the $300,000

>>I do not believe there is a social, legal, political or financial solution to our dilemma.

As I just told above, that seems to be the case because what is happening does not match the mental image you guys have of what should be happening. MGTOW, and the marriage strike is inflicting great damage to the misandrist system. Be of good faith. We are indeed winning.

>>The more affluent South of the Border countries are hopelessly Feminist.

Exactly. Only affluent nations can be feminist, because in poor nations women simply do not have a substitute husband in the form of a government check.
That is why I am not only living in a poor nation, but in a Third World village.

>>“If I’m going to live in the Outback, I’d prefer my own country, which I’m most familiar with.”

At first reading, this sounds logical, until you remember it isn’t your country. You live in the US at the whim of dearies, who own the country you call your own. If a woman, any woman, wants you in jail you go to jail.

I will admit it is the very strongest who can expat. Leaving the nation you were born and raised in takes a lot of moxie. It is apparently much easier to live in a nation you know with virtually no human rights than to take risks and learn new languages and cultures to be a free man. Let me add Nice Guys are hot in rural Mexico.

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Darryl X June 26, 2012 at 11:36

@ Anonymous age 70 -

Any thoughts on expatration without a passport. Just thought I’d ask. You seem to have a lot of experience. You’re right. It’s daunting enough to leave your country under the best of circumstances. Leaving under the worst is even more daunting.

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Ray June 26, 2012 at 12:10

Speaking of backlash, I just this morning left a comment on some “white ribbon campaign” news article. They wanted public pledges from men to “end men’s violence against women.” The got this:

“I pledged never to condone or remain silent about the feminist spawned witch-hunting of innocent males as shown in “Witch-Hunting Males” at Youtube. http://tinyurl.com/65dpzwu

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Brigadon June 26, 2012 at 12:41

@Sun-

With all due respect (which is none) you are retarded. Men are just as important to producing children as women. It takes two to tango, buddy, so just waltz your little mangina back over to jezebel where it will be appreciated.

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Brigadon June 26, 2012 at 12:47

@DarrylX- to be completely honest, I wish I did, but, while utah is not going to jail you for your out-of state arrears, they are a ‘right to work’ state which means ‘right to slowly starve’. 6 months ago it would have been possible, but right now my slave and I are basically locked into a teensy little 1 bedroom apartment and barely making ends meet (we get to pick which bill to blow off each month)

I could point you at some inexpensive housing though, if you like. I am in an apartment because I could no longer tolerate roommates (Or drunks of any sort) but if you are open to having roommates there are places you could afford to live here and there ARE jobs. Convergys is a shithole but they are always hiring. Even at 50% garnishment you could still afford food, a place to live (with roommates) and internet :P

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Anonymous June 26, 2012 at 13:12

“Children are the future of any society and without them, the society dies. Women are the only sex to do this. ”

Children are the future of any society because they hold the promise to become adults. Women are better at nursing infants, not raising adults.

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Darryl X June 26, 2012 at 14:41

@ Brigadon -

“(we get to pick which bill to blow off each month)”

LOL

“Even at 50% garnishment you could still afford food, a place to live (with roommates) and internet ”

Oops. Try 65%.

Thanks for the info. Don’t need help just yet but maybe soon as the wolf is always at the door. When more than 150% of your take-home pay is spent just maintaining a job and 65% of your wages are garnished, all it takes is one minor catastrophe (or not even that) to put you out of a job and into jail. Our country is run by idiots.

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Ode June 26, 2012 at 15:34

Sun

Producing and raising the next generation is the probably the most important task there is.

Indeed it is. That is exactly why western civilization is going down the drain.
Because women have failed at their task to raise children to become responsible adults strong in character and fortitude. Instead women raise children to grow up to either become self entitled princesses who demand subsidized birth control or wimpy mangina boys.

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Sun June 26, 2012 at 15:48

@ Josh the Aspie

Yes, Josh women are the only ones who produce children. You are confusing contribution with production.

Yes, men contribute sperm but the zygote is developed in the Fallopian Tubes and embeds in the Endometrium Wall. The production isn’t shared by both the male and female. The women feeds the growth of the egg, via her body, and produces the child (not to mention giving immunity to early forms of bacteria through natural breast feeding).

Now you could argue that men contribute to feeding, protecting, etc, the woman while she is pregnant (as she is vulnerable and unable to do daily chores as effectively or not as all), but that doesn’t mean that men produce the child. Men and women do not contribute equally in the making of life.

Yes, well, reality is sexist. I’m with reality and not with Feminist who claim both men and women are “equal.”

Yes there is ample evidence like natural secretion of oxytocin and prolactin that occurs during the woman’s final stage of pregnancy. Breast aren’t just their for your pleasure. Even though studies have shown that men can lactate it is usually artificially produced or hormone imbalanced. Besides men’s milk is insufficient in terms of quantity and quality required to keep the baby alive.

You are correct that food and water are essential as well. I have never said that reproduction and the raising of children is the ONLY thing required. However, this can quickly become a “Which came first? The chicken or the egg?” argument by simply stating those who collect food and water everyday need to have come from somewhere.

However, food and water was not the first thing required. If we trace before Homo Sapiens and before starting out as simple prokaryote cells, RNA, which does not require food and water to survive, simply replicates. Replication (reproduction) comes first before consumption of resources (for more complex organism). Thus it take precedence over food and water to “spark” life.

As far as both sexes being able to fill each role as effectively, that is a very egalitarian Feminist argument to make. Coming from an evolutionary psychology and Social Darwinist standpoint, men for most of thousands of years tended to be aloof for long periods of time during Hunter and Gatherer years to hunt for food. If we be that the brain is subject to the same laws of evolution life any organ or organism than it is safe to say men evolved differently then women which shows, if not in absolute, with strong tendency to leave the upbringing to women, while they secure food and protected from enemy tribes.

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American June 26, 2012 at 19:08

Josh it seems the “Equality feminists” are finally realizing that the new “Gender-feminism” has little to nothing to do with womens equality anymore.

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Brigadon June 26, 2012 at 19:26

Actually, the voluntary creation of a human life is EXACTLY equal. about 5 to 15 seconds worth of grunting and happy sighs and maybe a cigarette.

Yes, the woman is stuck with the parasite until it bursts, but that does not mean that her contribution is intrinsically more moral or greater than the male contribution, it’s got no more social value than catching the flu. In point of fact, the male that STAYS and pledges his life or fortune to protect this… useless bloated bag of foetus despite her utter uselessness to him personally, is automatically dramatically superior morally, socially, and ethically, so superior that there is quite literally no comparison possible.

It’s the difference between surviving a fire and CHOOSING to enter the fire to save people, children, and pets.

An extensive analysis of the mechanics of pregnancy and evolution does not, at any point, support your argument that “Women produce children, producing children is the most important job there is, therefore women are important.” Attempting to raise a wall of bullshit in order to ‘prove’ that women have value other than that of a self-propelled uterus by throwing in semiscientific commentary about RNA and DNA, with a prurient aside about tits, fools no one.

Generally I don’t like to go personal, but Sun, shut the fuck up. Go back to the MSM and feminist boards and tell your masters that you have failed because you were stupid. Or take the red pill and stop spouting the garbage propaganda you have been spoon fed from birth.

The people that come here have long since lost all tolerance for bullshit goddess psychobabble.

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Brigadon June 26, 2012 at 19:32

American, Gender feminism is not new, it was the default state for radfems back in the beginning. If anything, equality feminism is the ‘new’ idea. In the past, feminism has only argued for ‘equality’ when they are trying to sucker other minorities into supporting their insanity. Now that they have won, ‘equality’ only exists when they are able to come up with a convincing statistical lie that converts obvious male competence into perceived male privilege.

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Brigadon June 26, 2012 at 19:43

@Darryl X-
I BELIEVE (in my experience, although I haven’t been ‘garnishable’ for more than ten years) That Utah state law actually mandates a mandatory 50% maximum garnishment, INCLUDING the ‘involuntary’ health care contributions that most states tack on as up to 15% more than the federally mandated 50% maximum.

Admittedly they hit you pre-tax, but it still leaves you in a slightly higher financial tidepool than some places. Also, there is a lot of agricultural ‘under the table’ work going on, if you have reliable transportation. It might be grunt work, but if you have an ID that proves that a farmer isn’t going to go to jail for slipping you some cash you can do weekend grab bag work that can net you an extra 250 a week easy. It might not seem like much, but an extra 750 to 1000 a month for a couple of months in the spring and fall can make an ENORMOUS difference in your quality of life.

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ralph gorman June 26, 2012 at 22:04

Sun is correct but ignores the implication of his own logic. Men should have all the jobs to equalize all the babies for women. Give the women the power of the pocketbook in addition to the power of the pussy, and everything falls apart very quickly.

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piercedhead June 27, 2012 at 02:04

“Any thoughts on expatration without a passport. “

Those Mexican guys on the run from Texas law enforcement seem to have no difficulty driving into the Rio Grande, ditching the car and swimming southward in nothing but the clothes they wear. There doesn’t appear to be anyone waiting for them on the other side insisting on a passport.

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The Whammer June 27, 2012 at 02:30

It might be grunt work, but if you have an ID that proves that a farmer isn’t going to go to jail for slipping you some cash you can do weekend grab bag work that can net you an extra 250 a week easy.

Just buy and resell things for a profit for cash. Rent a space at one of those outdoor weekend flea markets. Pull up your car, set up a tarp and sell “collectables” (junk that you collected for free :0 ) Or buy T shirts in bulk for like a $1 each and sell them for a few dollars ea.Or get those fake colognes and sell them for 3x what you paid. Or sell candles (females love those and they’re usually with some chump at the flea market who buys it for them lol)
Or find some small business that will hire you part time and pay cash. Most people who own them work all of the time and may hire you a day a week just so they can take some time off.
Or start your own house cleaning service or crop picking with illegals. You manage them and the jobs and take your cut.
Or go into business with your old HS chemistry teacher at his new lab :)

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Brigadon June 27, 2012 at 08:03

@Sun- I can see what you are and were aiming for exactly. The whole “Men and women are supposed to be partners and helpmeets and rule the world hand in hand with balanced principles of feminine and masculine, just like a good marriage, yadda yadda yadda.”

That is an absolutely lovely egalatarian idea, if there was even the slightest chance that it wasn’t a complete load of bullshit.

The fact is, women cannot even control themselves, let alone have the discipline necessary to rule others. There are exceptions, there are always exceptions, but are you really willing to wade through a million women just to find the ONE that is capable of seeing anything other than her own self-interest?

Yin and Yang are not definitions of femininity and masculinity, they are balanced forces within a MAN. Men are a complete creature, with all necessary principles embodied within his own flesh. when those forces are out of balance, they corrupt the man, and destroy his mind. Women, however, are NOT complete creatures. At the best of times, they are little more than a vessel for his ambitions. Every once in a while you might stumble across a ‘whole’ woman, but they are almost universally reviled by their own gender . what you have instead is a creature with NO balancing principles… guided solely by self-interest to the exclusion of all else. In short, you have an animal that is (arguably) capable of thinking, although reason still seems to be beyond their grasp.

There was a time, long ago, when women were conditioned from a very young age to act as though they were capable of reason, or at least of submission to reason. This apparently fooled men into believing that they were rational beings, and we have been paying the price of that self-delusion ever since.

But please, feel free to stick your fingers in your ears and mumble something about ‘not dignifying that with a response.’ quality comedy.

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Firepower June 27, 2012 at 08:20

Ollie & Darryl X:

@Firepower: we’re not “Winning” by any stretch of the imagination, but we are getting somewhere.

I do see both your points.
Still, I have a sinking feeling, the prognosis is that by the time any “change” happens – you’ll both be 85. During that interim, your maturity and wisdom will be dragged down by the teen fantasists. The very ones that vote down ideas

…they don’t want to face.
Not, good.

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jake eagle June 27, 2012 at 15:41

Oh mah gawd… this sounds like 4chan….

If so… legendary win

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David K. Meller June 28, 2012 at 09:17

If feminists HATE video games (and the men who enjoy them) as fiercely as suggested by Sarkeesian et al., this tells us that the video industry must be doing something right, doesn’t it.

So far, I think that most of the male-positive images in such entertainment fare are probably accidental, put there to appeal to the nascent, if not still largely dormant masculinity of the intended audience. Maybe it is time for a new generation of games to more deliberately emphasize male superiority and female inferiority. If those games also focus upon points that feminists already show interest in, e.g. child support and welfare, with perhaps the hero rescuing his child(ren) from a worthless, abusive, and narcissistic “mother”, That will REALLY cause that group of hateful “grrrrlz” to go into hysterics!

Have fun!!

PEACE AND FREEDOM!!

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Doug1111 June 28, 2012 at 12:16

Young guy–

Awesome comment. Really awesome. Bill should make it a guest column if you ask me.

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Doug1111 June 28, 2012 at 12:40

Ha.

The site Bill linked for the sons of feminists hating feminism with a passion has a message that pops up when you try to comment: Only “team members” are allowed to comment on this blog.

It’s very telling that feminists about universally feel need to heavily censor their commenters, and in fact often/usually have a qualification phase where you have to write stuff they actually like for you to be allowed to comment at all.

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donAlvar June 28, 2012 at 13:12

I don’t call it feminism. I call it civilisation. And yes, some people don’t like it. And yes, the USA are trying to get rid of it. Science, Art, knowledge in general might be discarded to go back to the good old days when “men were men” whatever the fuck that means.

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Ted June 28, 2012 at 16:03

“I don’t call it feminism. I call it civilisation. ”

A forgivable mistake. Feminism is *associated with* civilization because only civilization produces enough surplus wealth to sustain its depredations.

“And yes, some people don’t like it. ”

Because it has gone too far and has become increasingly destructive. What people don’t like are the effects that come from that.

“And yes, the USA are trying to get rid of it.”

About time too. Who could have predicted that the richest country on earth could have been brought to it current parlous state by pandering to the girls?

“Science, Art, knowledge in general might be discarded ”

No, no! Not “discarded”: made female-friendly! You really should look to polishing up your feminist credentials.

“to go back to the good old days”

You can’t go back, Don. It’s a law of physics.

“when “men were men”

They still are.

“whatever the fuck that means.”

Read this site, and find out.

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Steve_85 July 1, 2012 at 04:19
mgtow July 2, 2012 at 09:56

Feminists have long expected a backlash from some mysterious cabal. They have breathlessly spoken of it as a wonderful opportunity to finally finish off the hated patriarchy. Imagine their horror as they realize that this backlash they have been preparing for all these years is coming from their sons.

The real mystery is: how did those man-haters manage to even get a man to procreate with?

Feminists are supposed to experience motherhood through pet cats, and a husband through a dildo.

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keith July 2, 2012 at 18:57

I would like to highlight one point, maybe as an insight.

We have a fatherless man in the white house, sympathetic to feminism who doubtless was not exposed to a male perception of feminism on the internet. Tomorrows president may be more informed and less sympathetic to feminism. He to may be fatherless with a different perception. How would such a man respond politically. Could he represent a one man backlash of epic proportion, would he?

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Boheme Chinois July 5, 2012 at 12:13

I am utterly sick of feminism. I grew up in a single-mother household where I was neutered of my masculinity. My mom taught me to be a goody, nice guy and fed me utter crap because she didn’t even learn how to fucking cook! I had to and still deal with obesity, and that has caused me a lifetime of pain and suffering. Not only does the sex suck, but also you just feel less like a man. As you can see, millions of Americans are suffering like I am as millions of worthless American women are working dead end jobs because they want to be “strong and independent.”

I have had it with feminist movement in my country that I decided to move to a non-western country. I moved to Asia. Though feminism is taking hold in Asia, it will never reach the pathetic, man-hating levels of the US. in Asia women still generally respect men. Women are still largely feminine and beautiful. NOT FAT! Back in the US, I felt numb with girls, but here I actually feel something for the girls here. It’s like the femininity and respect has activated my male instinct to protect and provide for the girls here. In America, I adopt a hit it and quit it stance with Americanized women. The women are only good for sex.

Yes, there is a backlash. Men like me who are well-educated, intelligent, and with good futures are rejecting you damn feminists and either keeping out relations with you to sex or seeking out foreign, feminine, man-respecting women.

I shall be investing in cat food stocks to get rich as you Generation Y women eventually get old and can no longer be so sexy and hip. I’ll be enjoying life with a real woman as my cat food stocks appreciate in value. You Gen Y ladies will be depreciating very, very fast.

Enjoy, bitches!

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Jim BOB July 5, 2012 at 14:21

The problem with feminism is the same problem all ideologies( that try to radically alter human nature from the top down) have…. reality.

And the problem truly is ideology, not women. which a lot for you seem to be missing.

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Masculist Man July 9, 2012 at 17:55

Younger women are starting to realize how badly we’ve been sold out – see the headline article in the Atlantic about how women CAN NOT have it all and that wanting it all is so much bullshit. It’s not the whole story, but a tiny step in the right direction.

Too little too late. When you’ve been through torment by women like a lot of men here have you no longer give a fuck about the welfare of women.

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Masculist Man July 9, 2012 at 18:10

Keyster has mentioned several times his idea that the MRM should try to attach itself to the Republican party. This is a possibility although it’s not one MRAs have warmed to, since the Republicans, and conservatives more generally, tend to be white knights.

Really?: http://mensrightsboard.blogspot.com/2012/07/dan-matthews-sticks-up-for-men.html

If you know of any pro-male Democrats or leftists that are in political office or running for political office feel free to write about them.

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Masculist Man July 9, 2012 at 18:51

The USA beat communism but lost to feminism and it does not even realize it yet. Move abroad and watch the US socially implode from a safe distance.

This reminds me that a few years ago a lot of expatriates insisted Russia and Poland were the places to be. Now they are both overran by feminists. I don’t know where you are but if this trend keeps up you’ll run out of room.

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Masculist Man July 9, 2012 at 20:21

What I do know is this: the system is not repairable and real men cannot co-exist with it. I don’t think there is a way feminism will be defeated. Unless it collapses under the weight of its own hubris and decay. I do not believe there is a social, legal, political or financial solution to our dilemma.

That’s a defeatist attitude. If we don’t fight back then we stand no chance if we do fight back we do stand a chance. I would rather fight on my feet than live on my knees or run away only to be pursued.

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Masculist Man July 9, 2012 at 20:46

I dunno’, fella’. Rural Mexico sure seems to qualify, if you have a way to support yourself. Which is not a small problem. There is much more personal freedom here, and Nice Guys are hot here.

Anon 70,I’ve got some bad news: http://ncfm.org/2012/06/news/domestic-abuse-violence/mexico-headed-for-big-dose-of-women-only-family-justice-centers-notice-the-absence-of-any-services-for-men/

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Masculist Man July 9, 2012 at 20:56

This is the situation for men in America. It is too late. Don’t think that because feminism has been exposed as uncool and destructive that the quality of life for men is going to change for the better. Things are actually getting worse.

What are you doing to change the situation?

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Masculist Man July 10, 2012 at 16:52

Just thinking about how pissed off that made his insane, overbearing mother and his spineless, feminist father whom the author called Viking (nothing warrior like about him though) brought joy to my day.

Why did they call him “viking”? Wasn’t “pussyfag bitch” avaiable?

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Masculist Man July 10, 2012 at 17:32

the way i see it- if feminists can be so blunt, why can’t i? secondly, i really don’t care. seriously.

Damn fucking straight. That’s what I do.

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Masculist Man July 10, 2012 at 17:51

@ sun:

1.Yes women did raise children. They raised them in caves. Want to go back to those days?

2. Want to go back to the pre-Pasteur days where your baby’s milk may be fatal?

Want to give up indoor living and live outdoors where you may wake up face to face with a mountain lion,wolf or coyote?

If the answer to the above is “no” then STFU.

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Masculist Man July 10, 2012 at 18:05

Josh it seems the “Equality feminists” are finally realizing that the new “Gender-feminism” has little to nothing to do with womens equality anymore.

That’s like saying the tolerant nazis are finally realizing that the new racist nazism has little to nothing to do with equality.

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Masculist Man July 10, 2012 at 18:39

@Jimbob,

Fuck you STFU

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IM November 23, 2012 at 02:19

We need balance. Using any negativity whatsoever to achieve it doesn’t work. No matter what direction you’re coming from, if you’re using abusive or judgmental language or trying to stir up anger, you’re just waging an ego-based battle. That’s all it is, and it goes all ways. The key is to live in harmony, not negativity and domination. Look at your life. Find peace and balance within. Work on yourself. Projecting anger outwards and expecting others to take it, or fix it, or deal with it in any way, doesn’t serve anyone, least of all you.

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learned March 16, 2013 at 11:58

“sons of feminists tend to hate the ideology with a passion.”
Yes, we do and we have little, if any regard for the ‘mothers’ that abused us with their man hating religion of perpetual victim hood.
At some point, boys become physically able to defend themselves from the psychological abuse. I was 15 when I ended it. When I looked at her bandaged face in the court room, I knew that She ‘got’ it. Being a minor has it’s advantages, especially in the late 70′s.
I felt absolutely no remorse for my actions then and I do not now.
I still don’t understand how a woman could hate a child, her child, simply because (he) was born with a penis.
I have no regard for feminism or feminists. I would not piss on one if she/he were on fire.
I especially despise the ‘moderates’, “Oh I don’t believe in all that radical stuff, I believe in ‘equality’”, (whatever that even means).
They are useful idiots providing cover for the true feminists.
They are the equivalent of the 1939 German citizen, ” Oh sure I’m a national socialist, but I don’t agree with Hitler about the Jews thing, no, I support to thriving economy and trains running on time”.

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Mike March 27, 2013 at 03:10

talking about the “damsel in distress”, check this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAbRbj5H7Os
hahahaha

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Mike March 27, 2013 at 03:41

IM the war have been previously declared, and were the feminists who did it . Feminist have been trying to weak up the beast, and when they have succes with it, there will be a war. And remember that in a serious war women wont be able to beat men, women will be subdue.

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fred September 15, 2013 at 16:59

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcPIu3sDkEw
Leaked footage from a 2010 talk from anita has come to light.

Sorry but the game is up for her, she’s a fake gamer who exploited the issue for her own gain. The suspicions by many who were dismissed out of hand as just “troll” are confirmed.

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