More Long Articles?

by W.F. Price on June 23, 2012

I’ve noticed that my longer, more in depth articles have a favorable effect on traffic, as they are passed around more, so I’m thinking about putting more effort into them.

What I’d like to do is write an in-depth piece of 1,500-3,000 words at least once a week, posted on Mondays or Tuesdays. This shouldn’t be a problem, but it might mean a little less time for the shorter articles, so total post volume might go down slightly, although total text volume will likely increase.

I’d be interested in knowing whether regular readers like the longer articles, so feel free to let me know what you think of the idea. I like writing them, but they can be pretty involved, taking up pretty much an entire shift (or longer in some cases), so I want to make sure the effort is well-spent.

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Jerry June 23, 2012 at 14:55

Length doesn’t matter, but quality does. The vast majority of articles I’ve read here are very interesting and insightful. That’s all that counts in my book.

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Suz June 23, 2012 at 15:48

I like the longer articles, but Monday and Tuesday are beginning to suck. EVERYBODY posts their good stuff on Mondays and Tuesdays. If I were to read everything on my dashboard those days, I’d wouldn’t do anything else. I’d love to see more in-depth articles on Thursday or even Friday…

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AfOR June 23, 2012 at 16:12

it’s a blog Bill, don’t try to eat the whole apple in one bite, take a few bites, come back to topics and do a part 2, part 3 etc

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W.F. Price June 23, 2012 at 16:24

it’s a blog Bill, don’t try to eat the whole apple in one bite, take a few bites, come back to topics and do a part 2, part 3 etc

-AfOR

Good idea, AfOR. I’ve thought about that before, but I had such a hell of a time maintaining stability in my life for a few years that I went with just tossing stuff out there as it came to me. Sort of a “now or never” mentality. I think I might be past that now (hopefully), so longer projects might be in the works.

Rus June 23, 2012 at 16:33

I read all of the Misandry Bubble, including links. It’s not the length that matters, but the content.

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Tom936 June 23, 2012 at 16:38

I d be interested in knowing whether regular readers like the longer articles, so feel free to let me know what you think of the idea.

My humble opinion is that the shorter articles give more bang for the buck. They are all welcome, of course.

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Rebel June 23, 2012 at 16:56

The articles here are always interesting. So either long or short doesn’t matter to me.

By the way, congratulations for the excellent work you are doing.

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Eric June 23, 2012 at 17:00

Price
I like Afor’s idea. Maybe do a two-part article but once every couple of weeks or so instead of every week.

The problem with those really long articles on a regular basis is that they tend to generate incredibly long comment threads that are hard to follow. For example, on a smaller post, there might be 40-50 comments on a topic people can engage in; whereas a long post might generate 200+ comments, which will mostly be dominated by readers who have a particular interest in the topic. Also, I think they would be harder to moderate.

I’ve never run a blog, so I’m not speaking from experience. But just some observations.

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J June 23, 2012 at 17:02

Hard to say man. One or two a week, more likely one would be great I agree with AFOR, do it in parts. The different parts though can 1500-2000 words. I’m not sure the average reader can maintain their attention-span for more then that every day who reads your site.

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orecret June 23, 2012 at 17:08

Quality articles that generate quality, interesting commentary (that doesn’t descend into flame wars and personal attacks) is what keeps me coming back.

As long as the commentary is interesting and civil, I may be back to see the same article multiple times.

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AfOR June 23, 2012 at 17:22
Eric June 23, 2012 at 17:42

AfoR:
Doubly depressing since I spent of my youth around St.Louis.

To address something the author didn’t: St. Louis is also known as ‘the Gateway to the West’, and is also the midway port of the Mississippi River. In a military operation on US soil it would be a key strategic location.

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American June 23, 2012 at 17:46

I personally like you’re articles that target the driving forces behind the perversions of the American justice system.
The protocol perversions and semantics games that American law enforcement are now engaged in that serve to “persecute the innocent”, didn’t come out of thin air.
The neo American “Gender-feminist courts” , and their community; in order to Inflame their way to more and more Empowerment, have perverted American law enforcement into “manufacturing statistics” for them.
I believe this manufactured statistics Alliance between law enforcement and the Gender-Raunch community is not only a perversion but is un-constitutional.

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American June 23, 2012 at 18:33

Pointing out the fact that the Gender-raunch community are the driving forces behind the perversions to American law enforcement, will ruffle the feathers of Gender-Raunch, but maybe their feathers need ruffling.

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Visionary June 23, 2012 at 18:34

I like the long articles, but what will I do without my daily Spearhead fix?

Just keep writing. Don’t sleep.

-V

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Rebel June 23, 2012 at 18:45

I wonder if I might make a suggestion..

I’ve already said that all the articles here are interesting. Might it be convenient to include discussions regarding the many challenges that lie ahead of us and our society as a whole?

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American June 23, 2012 at 19:00

Rebel you suggest pierce write more about the challenges that lie ahead of us. May i be so bold as too suggest that when the Gender-feminist community are humbled (because their perversion and manufactured statistics Alliance with American law enforcement is found unconstitutional) then academia and society as a whole will again find balance.
Remove the sick, and the healthy shall thrive, kinda like weeding you’re garden. If Gender-raunch insist on persecuting the innocent on false rape charges, they are in fact a weed that needs to be culled.

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Rebel June 23, 2012 at 19:10

American: I should have been more specific. I meant to mention the problem of water shortage, the depletion of resources, the 6th extinction , weather changes, the debt, overpopulation, pollution, the loss of freedom and on and on.

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Default User June 23, 2012 at 19:39

TL/DR

:/

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3DShooter June 23, 2012 at 19:42

@Welmer

Maybe I’m just being nostalgic, but I kind of miss some of the diversity of articles you had as a start-up (started reading you after someone posted a link on Craigslist divorce). You used to post about cooking (and for the newly divorced that can be pretty damned important) and many other things. I’d probably vote for mixing it up between the longer more complete with the shorter off the cuff. You don’t want to become predictable :)

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!!SPARTA!! June 23, 2012 at 20:21

I like the shorter articles.
As much as I hate to admit
I sometimes skim the long ones
Maybe I’m just ADD or something

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MKP June 23, 2012 at 21:02

I don’t really even notice long vs. short; none of them are THAT long, for anyone with an adult attention span.

For me, I notice a big difference in quality and consistency between the ones you write and the ones from the guest stars. Some of the guest columnists are great – funny, insightful, relevant – while some of them are … none of those things.

Just my opinion. I really like the site and most of the people who comment here. Hope you guys are all having a good weekend.

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Poester99 June 23, 2012 at 21:07

You’ve had some really solid (long) articles lately!
Keep it up!
I’ll Paypal you some more (and/or more regularly) when I get work again.

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The Whammer June 23, 2012 at 21:43

It depends what your objective is and who your audience is. If you’re writing about something like your experience in divorce court and it’s aimed at men then it can be long. But if you just want to discredit feminism or femaleism make it short. Short and sweet :) There’s no point in wasting time trying to convince a female of anything or getting into a debate because it is futile. You’ll just end up arguing in circles which is what females do if you respond to them. They’ll derail any logical arguments and waste your time trying to wear you out. They had their chance to be reasonable and now it’s time to just lay down the law to them.

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freebird June 23, 2012 at 21:48

You’re fantastic writer and a deep thinker,go with your instinct.
Some recent articles have been ground breaking in the extent they reveal truths.
This sets up a resonance effect,like ripples from a stone thrown into a lake.
Not only that,the detractors have had no logical counter arguments,only ad-hominems and shaming language.
The commentors here are of a very high grade,this place is very enjoyable.
Just like fresh oxygen in a polluted
atmosphere.

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continent June 23, 2012 at 22:05

Like Sparta I prefer medium or short articles or comments. Sometimes scanning comments there were mandering lines that were boring and in some cases repetitive. But I am amazed where do you get the energy to write so much so well? Am I ODD or ADD like he/she?

!!SPARTA!! June 23, 2012 at 20:21
I like the shorter articles.
As much as I hate to admit
I sometimes skim the long ones
Maybe I’m just ADD or something

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Troll King June 23, 2012 at 22:18

This is offtopic but was a real eyeopener.

http://commonhealth.wbur.org/2011/04/latest-genital-herpes

Did you know that single, never-married women between the age of 40-50 have herpes at rates up to 75% of the population?

Look around your office or at all the feminist soccer moms at your childrens schools and three out of four of them have the herp.

Even in the general population about 1 in 5 women have it and ~11% of men have it….seems like evidence of hypergamy to me.

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Troll King June 23, 2012 at 22:20

Wow, a woman in her forties (who has a high likelihood of having the herp) is sueing a 11 yr old boy after she got hit in the face with a baseball.

http://deadspin.com/5920631/new-jersey-woman-sues-little-leaguer-who-hit-her-in-the-face-with-a-baseball

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Troll King June 23, 2012 at 22:24

Here is a interesting article on CS:

http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2012/02/28/do-you-think-it-is-fair-to-take-men-to-the-poor-house-for-child-support-debt/

Scary stuff.

I don’t know what is scarier, our Orwellian police state or a large army of herp infected cougars and milfs. *shudders*

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"The One" June 23, 2012 at 22:31

I’d say write a long article if the topic requires it, and write a short article if the topic can be handled succinctly.

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AndrewV June 23, 2012 at 23:01

OT:
1 is 2 Many propaganda video from the white house. Of course there is no mention that most women start the violence in the first place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXox6ma1gtE

President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden join with Eli Manning, Jeremy Lin, Jimmy Rollins, Evan Longoria, David Beckham, Joe Torre and Andy Katz in this PSA to raise awareness about dating violence

From AVFM

Send the White House and every member of the blue pill public that views that vid a message. Down vote and make a comment about the truth.

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The Whammer June 24, 2012 at 00:55

Even in the general population about 1 in 5 women have it and ~11% of men have it….seems like evidence of hypergamy to me.

Not exactly which is why amateurs shouldn’t try to draw conclusions from these statistics. It may just have something to do with female anatomy and not that they’re having more sex with different men. We’re exposed to bacteria and viruses all of the time and they just either die a natural death or are killed by soap and water. It’s a lot easier killing a virus on your dick when you wash than destroying it in the vagina. Almost everyone will carry the herpes virus and the type 1 and type 2 are likely the same virus just in different locations. The Type 2 is really just a new designation for the herpes located in genital areas. So something like a cold sore on your lip can be spread to your dick just by touching the areas.Most people are carrying the virus but since it never becomes acute because their immune system keeps it in check they are unaware of it. It’s always existed like the common cold so why become neurotic about it.
I believe that this whole disease hysteria was started by feminists and spread to the female population who were only too glad to have another excuse to avoid sex and coerce men into being monogamous or using condoms which would also make men responsible for birth control as well. Homosexuals also like this disease hysteria because as you know “anyone can get AIDS” and everyone now has to use condoms not just gays. Personally I don’t even know of 1 case where a person has contracted AIDS from sex ( although I know of a couple of cases from contaminated needles)and it’s almost impossible for a man to contract from sex with a female. Homosexuals contract AIDS, and other diseases, from anal sex.

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The Whammer June 24, 2012 at 01:11

Wow, a woman in her forties (who has a high likelihood of having the herp) is sueing a 11 yr old boy after she got hit in the face with a baseball

There are a million lawsuits filed, it means nothing. Apparently the insurance co. wouldn’t settle with her so she doesn’t have a case. Her injuries may have been the result of her own negligence. In fact, the kid should sue her for causing him emotional distress when she walked where she shouldn’t have been and got hit by the ball. That poor boy is going to need some compensation , say $10m, because the trauma ruined his career as a pro baseball player :)

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The Whammer June 24, 2012 at 02:16

@22.24-even when getting a paper cheque they’re taking 2/3 of it so when they go to electronic payments next year they’ll be able to take 100%!
However, where there’s a Will there’s a way of making all of this police state anti male bs backfire on them. :)
If a man now has 0 income and is homeless or disabled he’s eligible for all sorts of benefits and these benefits will likely be worth more than the money the state is holding.
Homeless, old or disabled?You go to the top of the sec. 8 list and since you have no income they have to pay 100% of the rent. In a lot of states you would have to find your own rental and the more expensive the area the more HUD has to pay and owners must accept sec 8
Since you now have 0 income you’ll also get the max food stamps
You’ll get free utilities because there are subsidies and funds for the poor like you with your 0 income
You’ll get a free phone and cellphone
You’ll still have medical coverage so use it to the hilt. It probably even covers transportation so you won’t need a car
Hey why even bother with a car you could get one of those scooters free to ride around in and charge SS for it . The companies that sell them even handle the paper work just get a doctor to write you can’t walk far :)

Another thing these men who are now broke can’t do is all move into a state with a tiny population like Vermont with 1/2 m people and take over the government by voting your guys in and just changing the laws regarding freezing accounts for child support. Even if you owed the money to California they can’t tell Vermont to collect the money for them. There’s something called the 10th amendment and besides you now control Vermont and simply won’t cooperate with any other state :)

I’ll have to write Bernie Madoff and see if he has any ideas on how to legally screw the state government :)

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Darryl X June 24, 2012 at 08:03

@ Price -

It’s not the size of a man’s dick or even if he has a jackhammer for an ass. It’s how strong the tails on his sperm are. Same logic applies to articles. LOL

I share the articles (and comments about or in response to them) on this site and others with colleagues of mine. Anything that promotes men’s rights and the truth, especially if it’s with really good and objective analysis is beneficial. Doesn’t matter how short. Fact-checking is important. Don’t want to devolve into the same culture of misinformation and deceipt that the feminists have.

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Darryl X June 24, 2012 at 08:07

@ TK -

“Even in the general population about 1 in 5 women have it and ~11% of men have it….seems like evidence of hypergamy to me.”

Great deduction. Same with incidence of paternity fraud. When all our leaders are running around like chickens with their heads cut off pointing fingers of blame and casting aspersions at men for alleged violations of or threats to national security, it would seem to me that nothing threatens national security more than hypergamy and feminism.

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freebird June 24, 2012 at 08:08

From what I’ve seen section 8 housing is always paid by Social Security and/or disability.
Even then females are highly given preferential treatment,perhaps due to ease of greater social benefits,and the likelihood of continuance.
There’s a reason %95 of the homeless are men,and you would think the high concentration of veterans would have some other means of support,but obviously NO.
Oh yeah, and try getting the State to pay for your dental if you’re male.
No joy, that’s for the women infants and children (WIC) and No child left behind (and their mothers)
No,disabled men have the teeth rotting out of their heads and can’t afford to fix em,and no help from the “Equal” Medicaid system.
It’s odd how Illegals get huge handouts,it’s like an express lane.
I once read an editorial from an old guy in Florida who could not afford health insurance,he said his best option was to Illegally cross the border into Mexico,become a citizen there,and Illegally cross back into the US and apply for benefits.
Everyone gets the handouts except for indigenous men.That’s a fact-jack.

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Darryl X June 24, 2012 at 08:13

@ Price -

“Good idea, AfOR. I’ve thought about that before, but I had such a hell of a time maintaining stability in my life for a few years that I went with just tossing stuff out there as it came to me. Sort of a “now or never” mentality. I think I might be past that now (hopefully), so longer projects might be in the works.”

I can relate to this sentiment. I think a lot of real men become very disoriented with the reality check in their lives after being visited by the consequences of false allegations and other weapons used by feminists. Other personal experiences, although disorienting, like health crises etc… are also disorienting but none in my experience more than the realization of our feminist culture and just how pervasive and destructive it is. It really challenges your faith and wastes incredible amounts of time and resources and can really derail a life.

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Darryl X June 24, 2012 at 08:16

@ freebird -

Spot on about the medical care. Wish more people understood. Actually, they probably do. I wish they cared.

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Miss_Fu June 24, 2012 at 09:22

This is off-topic, but I found this gem in the comments of a blog post (http://biologyfiles.fieldofscience.com/2011/11/teaching-my-children-well-feminism-has.html) where a feminist laments the lack of feminist spirit in her sons:

usethebrainsgodgiveyou1November 15, 2011 7:54 AM
My son, at age 17, has started a study of misandry, and is filling his head online with assumptions from men of questionable repute. He HATES feminism. The last website I caught a man was talking about how school busses should all be painted pink because it was all for the women, anyhow.

I love my son, I am drawn to understand why he see’s it that way. He has talked of false accusations, how a woman can destroy a man’s life with lies in order to get what she wants. (His first and only girlfriend messed with his head, lied, and threatened him. We think this may be where it comes from.)

I understand that women have no higher place on the morality circuit necessarily, and a few dumbasses can make us all look bad. He talks about how the “boy is being drugged out of boys”, although he has forgiven me for his 8 year ritalin prescription because I received poor information…whew!

Women are entirely capable of matching men in hatred, biliousness, and greed. He feels feminism applauds that.

We all went through intense struggles of our own at his age, just hoping things turn out better than they are now.I just wonder how many young boys feel this way, or if our kids are exceptions.

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Opus June 24, 2012 at 09:23

I am afraid I have even more bad news for women (the war against women continues). Prime Minister Cameron is proposing limiting housing benefit to the over 25s. What happens is that when a young woman (usually called Kaylee or Kelly – replacing Sharon and Tracy as favoured benefit claimant names) becomes pregnant, she thus rises effortlessly to the top of the housing queue, and is given a house paid for by the State. Sometimes she marries but as often seems to quickly Divorce. She then forms a relationship with Harley McBad Boy who because he only stays over three nights a week, she can legitimately claim she lives alone and thus continue to claim benefit (believe me I have had to advise women exactly how far in their cohabitation they can go to continue to lawfully claim). If the measure proceeds, the woman will have to stay with her parents (or her heroic single-mum) and either have the child or abort the foetus. Men have always been BOTTOM of the housing benefit queue as the only way to rise quickly was to become pregnant. This they consistently fail to do. So, despite the fact that Cameron courts any group of people claiming to possess a Vagina, (and those who wish they had one i.e. Transvestites) in practice he is attacking women . GREAT

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W.F. Price June 24, 2012 at 09:29

@Ms. Fu

Good find

Darryl X June 24, 2012 at 09:36

@ AfOR -

“Both state that they think the exercise is a “great idea”, because having the military on the streets would help to “reduce crime”:”

Yeah, right. Glad everyone has things in perspective. People get the government they deserve.

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Awake June 24, 2012 at 09:41

David Icke- To Destroy America

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines

Still think politics is the way forward and the best thing for Men?

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dicipres June 24, 2012 at 09:50

I think you write more when you have an interesting/strong subject… the best articles tend to be longer, not the other way around.

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Journey June 24, 2012 at 10:35

Whatever gets the site more traffic is the best idea. We need sites like this to get millions of views.

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Darryl X June 24, 2012 at 10:38

Miss_Fu -

“Women are entirely capable of matching men in hatred, biliousness, and greed. He feels feminism applauds that.”

I’d say the past four-thousand years of history shows that women exceed greatly men in hatred, biliousness, and greed at every chance they get which is most of the time and the evidence is overwhelming.

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Huck Finn June 24, 2012 at 10:48

Successful restaurants following Hooters’ formula
‘Breastaurants’ are succeeding even as consumers are eating out less

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47938445/ns/business-us_business/#.T-dRCpJntYw

One concept Not covered in the MSNBC article is that such restaurants are anti-PC at the core and may suggest another pendulum reversal for feminism. Then again, gender-raunch feminism is also very much into the sexualizing of women though they call it freedom. Very confusing to me. Go figure.

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Will June 24, 2012 at 12:14

Welmer,

I agree with Afor – If you’re going to do a longer article, break it up into 2 or 3 parts. It makes it more manageble and gets people coming back for more.

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Will June 24, 2012 at 12:25

Opus,

I doubt that proposed changed for the under 25s applies to women with children. As I understand it, by law local councils are obligated to house women who have children. So I suspect this proposed change will only apply to under 25s without children.

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Eric June 24, 2012 at 12:33

Miss Fu;
Interesting article. So a 17-year old guy studying misandry and hates feminism, huh?

I think a lot of MRAs who think that the MRM isn’t making any impact ought to read that article and rethink things.

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American June 24, 2012 at 12:59

Rebel, i take note of you’re list of concerns, but the solution remains the same. White Gender-Raunch Run this country (and all the problems it now faces can be blamed on the driver), but you see they can conveniently claim it was some kind of “patriarchy” that is actually running America into the ground.
Without responsibility, white Gender-Raunch can keep the masses filled with bread and circus, keep the mass hysteria level at a the screeching level it is currently; while running the world into the ground and blame it on their fictitious concept of “Patriarchy”.
The White Gender-Raunch community have a stranglehold on this nations politics and policies, while blaming their destructive path they are leading us on, on their fictitious patriarchy.

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Opus June 24, 2012 at 14:28

@Will

You are quite right of course, however: (my source is the Mail) Cameron is quoted such that there is no doubt as to his meaning. He intends to do exactly what I suggested. What the unpredicted outcome will be if passed into legislation is of course another matter, but he makes clear that getting pregnant will not automatically give you state housing. He invokes the 11th Commandment – Thou shalt not marry except well.

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Will June 24, 2012 at 16:26

Opus,

Thats sounds interesting. In the south coast seaside town where I live its literally wall-to-wall single mothers. They look like a pretty pampered carefree bunch on the whole. Of course if the benefits dry up that will no longer be the case.

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The Whammer June 24, 2012 at 17:16

@Opus June 24, 2012 at 09:23–These schemes work about the same whether in the US or England.

In my comment above I was telling men who had lost all of their SS or disability to State seizure for money owed for child support that they should do the same thing that females do and just grab every benefit they’re entitled to. It’s stupid to go live under a bridge or in your car and eat at some soup kitchen when the State must provide things under the law. You can be certain that females are well aware of what they can get. A female with a kid gets to the top of the list? Well so does a homeles man, older man and disabled man. If you’ve been screwed by the State then I say screw them back and deplete their funds.

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W.F. Price June 24, 2012 at 17:46

In my comment above I was telling men who had lost all of their SS or disability to State seizure for money owed for child support that they should do the same thing that females do and just grab every benefit they’re entitled to. It’s stupid to go live under a bridge or in your car and eat at some soup kitchen when the State must provide things under the law. You can be certain that females are well aware of what they can get. A female with a kid gets to the top of the list? Well so does a homeles man, older man and disabled man. If you’ve been screwed by the State then I say screw them back and deplete their funds.

-The Whammer

Honestly, this is probably the best option for men who get hung out to dry by their exes. Not only will you get food and shelter, but health care as well. And as an added bonus, child support will be automatically lowered — it’s the law.

I know it’s something most men don’t want to contemplate, but really, when you get screwed like that, what the hell does your pride matter?

If all men started taking advantage of the same stuff women do the entire welfare system would crash within months, so have at it. I can guarantee that judges would start laying down the law on single moms and divorcing women immediately if the women threatened their county budget.

The Whammer June 24, 2012 at 17:59

freebird June 24, 2012 at 08:08

From what I’ve seen section 8 housing is always paid by Social Security and/or disability.

Sec. 8 subsidies are from HUD. and administered by the county. In many states that vouccher can be used anywhere and there is no welfare type housing.

Even then females are highly given preferential treatment,perhaps due to ease of greater social benefits,and the likelihood of continuance.

I think that most men just don’t apply for benefits.

There’s a reason %95 of the homeless are men,and you would think the high concentration of veterans would have some other means of support,but obviously NO.

And why is that? Veterans who are disabled get a pension and if he is just unemployed with no money he should get benefits just like the females. As I said, for some reason men just don’t go for benefits.

Oh yeah, and try getting the State to pay for your dental if you’re male.

If you qualify you would get medicaid to cover that. In fact, a lot of this isn’t even means tested which means you can be rich and just have no income and you’ll qualify.

No joy, that’s for the women infants and children (WIC) and No child left behind (and their mothers)
No,disabled men have the teeth rotting out of their heads and can’t afford to fix em,and no help from the “Equal” Medicaid system.

The men who have no income can get medicaid and foodstamps or whatever they call it now with those debit cards.

It’s odd how Illegals get huge handouts,it’s like an express lane.

They’re not supposed to. They’re probably legal and after 5 years or so can get benefits depending on state law.

I once read an editorial from an old guy in Florida who could not afford health insurance,he said his best option was to Illegally cross the border into Mexico,become a citizen there,and Illegally cross back into the US and apply for benefits.
Everyone gets the handouts except for indigenous men.That’s a fact-jack.

That’s stupid. What’s his name and e-mail I’ll get him the benefits and won’t even charge him a legal fee. If he is old then he has Medicare. The problem with men is that they simply don’t demand the benefits due them. If you qualify there is no way they can be denied by some clerk working for the county.

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Darryl X June 24, 2012 at 20:16

@ Whammer -

“That’s stupid. What’s his name and e-mail I’ll get him the benefits and won’t even charge him a legal fee. If he is old then he has Medicare. The problem with men is that they simply don’t demand the benefits due them. If you qualify there is no way they can be denied by some clerk working for the county.”

In the US, if you owe child support, 100% of your Social Security benefits of any kind will be garnished until it is paid off. You are not eligible for food stamps or any housing vouchers. You are not eligible for Medicaid or Medicare. So, if you are sixty-two and can’t work anymore and owe say $100,000 in child support and you are eligible for say $8,000 in Social Security benefits a year, then you will not see any of those benefits until you are seventy-two or seventy-three years of age. If you were lucky and were able to pay off your child support by age sixty-two, then you likely spent all those years till then in poverty and don’t have any savings with which to live on and $8,000 doesn’t go very far. Which means you likely won’t retire at sixty-two or even seventy-two. That’s a lot of years to work as hard as I do. I doubt if I will be able to do it. That’s why it’s slavery. Good luck talking to the “clerk” and explaining how crazy it is. A gal at the Social Security office told me that I deserve what I get for having children.

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The Whammer June 24, 2012 at 21:31

@Darryl X-so you want me to handle it for you just to prove you’re wrong? That’s my hobby, proving bullshitters wrong.

In the US, if you owe child support, 100% of your Social Security benefits of any kind will be garnished until it is paid off.

Depending on state law that may be true.

You are not eligible for food stamps or any housing vouchers. You are not eligible for Medicaid or Medicare.

You’re wrong here because if you have 0 income you are entitled to it all.

Good luck talking to the “clerk” and explaining how crazy it is. A gal at the Social Security office told me that I deserve what I get for having children.

You’re obviously one of these people who gets abuse all of the time. The few times in my life that I’ve had to talk to the director of some government agency they were practically kissing my arse.So frankly I think you’re just making all of this crap up based on some amateur “men’s rights blog”you read.
How old are you and what’s your problem?

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freebird June 24, 2012 at 21:38

My comments to whammer in caps due to no script skills,inserted inline.

The Whammer June 24, 2012 at 17:59

freebird June 24, 2012 at 08:08

From what I’ve seen section 8 housing is always paid by Social Security and/or disability.

Sec. 8 subsidies are from HUD. and administered by the county. In many states that vouccher can be used anywhere and there is no welfare type housing.
YES,BUT THE VOUCHERS ONLY PAY THE REMAINDER OF THE RENT,NOT THE TOTAL RENT.
RENT=%30 OF A SOCIAL SECURITY CHECK,RIGHT THERE IS NO ZERO INCOME HOUSING-WHY ARE YOU COMMENTING WHEN YOU HAVE NO EXPERIENCE WITH THE SYSTEM?

Even then females are highly given preferential treatment,perhaps due to ease of greater social benefits,and the likelihood of continuance.

I think that most men just don’t apply for benefits.
BULLSHIT

There’s a reason %95 of the homeless are men,and you would think the high concentration of veterans would have some other means of support,but obviously NO.

And why is that? Veterans who are disabled get a pension and if he is just unemployed with no money he should get benefits just like the females. As I said, for some reason men just don’t go for benefits.
HE SHOULD ALRIGHT,BUT DOES NOT,HOLDING MY TONGUE FROM LASHING YOU A NEW ONE.MEN WOULD ‘GO’ FOR BENEFITS IF THEY COULD GET THEM.

Oh yeah, and try getting the State to pay for your dental if you’re male.

If you qualify you would get medicaid to cover that. In fact, a lot of this isn’t even means tested which means you can be rich and just have no income and you’ll qualify.
NO YOU ARE WRONG.IT IS ONLY FUNDED FOR WOMEN OR CHILDREN.MEN MUST PAY A CO-PAY OF EXCESS OF$500/mtnh.DO YOUR HOMEWORK!

No joy, that’s for the women infants and children (WIC) and No child left behind (and their mothers)
No,disabled men have the teeth rotting out of their heads and can’t afford to fix em,and no help from the “Equal” Medicaid system.

The men who have no income can get medicaid and foodstamps or whatever they call it now with those debit cards.
THAT’S NOT TRUE,YOU GET MEDICAID ONLY WHILE FEMALE,A CHILD, OR A MALE WITH A DISABILITY PAYING LESS THAN $667.mnth.
+ documented expenses.DO YOUR HOMEWORK!

It’s odd how Illegals get huge handouts,it’s like an express lane.

They’re not supposed to. They’re probably legal and after 5 years or so can get benefits depending on state law.

NOT SUPPOSED TOO? WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN SMOKING,IT’S CLEARLY ON THE FORMS,THAT IT IS A FAST TRACK.ARE YOU DENSE OR JUST PRETENDING?

I once read an editorial from an old guy in Florida who could not afford health insurance,he said his best option was to Illegally cross the border into Mexico,become a citizen there,and Illegally cross back into the US and apply for benefits.
Everyone gets the handouts except for indigenous men.That’s a fact-jack.

That’s stupid. What’s his name and e-mail I’ll get him the benefits and won’t even charge him a legal fee. If he is old then he has Medicare. The problem with men is that they simply don’t demand the benefits due them. If you qualify there is no way they can be denied by some clerk working for the county.
NOT IT’S NOT STUPID,HE WAS RIGHT,UNLIKE YOU.
SHEESH
EITHER YOU’RE IGNORANT OR A TROLL
(ignorant is not an ad-hominem,it just means you don’t know the facts are are spewing bullshit you believe to be true because they media portrays men as having equal access to benefits.)
You are talking out of your ass.
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Darryl X June 24, 2012 at 20:16

@ Whammer -

“That’s stupid. What’s his name and e-mail I’ll get him the benefits and won’t even charge him a legal fee. If he is old then he has Medicare. The problem with men is that they simply don’t demand the benefits due them. If you qualify there is no way they can be denied by some clerk working for the county.”

In the US, if you owe child support, 100% of your Social Security benefits of any kind will be garnished until it is paid off. You are not eligible for food stamps or any housing vouchers. You are not eligible for Medicaid or Medicare. So, if you are sixty-two and can’t work anymore and owe say $100,000 in child support and you are eligible for say $8,000 in Social Security benefits a year, then you will not see any of those benefits until you are seventy-two or seventy-three years of age. If you were lucky and were able to pay off your child support by age sixty-two, then you likely spent all those years till then in poverty and don’t have any savings with which to live on and $8,000 doesn’t go very far. Which means you likely won’t retire at sixty-two or even seventy-two. That’s a lot of years to work as hard as I do. I doubt if I will be able to do it. That’s why it’s slavery. Good luck talking to the “clerk” and explaining how crazy it is. A gal at the Social Security office told me that I deserve what I get for having children.

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freebird June 24, 2012 at 21:48

“If you qualify you would get medicaid to cover that. In fact, a lot of this isn’t even means tested which means you can be rich and just have no income and you’ll qualify.”

If a male bothers to apply he must submit PROOFS of all assetts, and I do mean ALL assetts.
Also,bank accounts,and funeral funds,and cemetery plots.Vehicles,stocks,annuities,ANY SOURCE OF INCOME.You seem to be saying rich men can go lie on the forms and get in.
Not in white mans land,buddy.
Like I tried to tell you the first time-WOMEN AND CHILDREN ONLY
Cannot believe you came back a second time to spew your lies,it pisses off the disenfranchised males, and we’re not gonna take the lies anymore.We’ll never get equal benefits,but we sure as hell ain’t gonna let some pretender spew lies about it on a mens site.
It’s been hard not to call you foul names,I hope I’ve succeeded and the readers appreciate it.

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The Whammer June 24, 2012 at 22:39

I think that you dopey boys are just female hating losers and that you’re just making this crap up from something you’ve read on some other men’s blog loser site. Nothing you are stating is even remotely correct.
I shouldn’t even bother answering but want to prove how stupid you are.

“YES,BUT THE VOUCHERS ONLY PAY THE REMAINDER OF THE RENT,NOT THE TOTAL RENT.
RENT=%30 OF A SOCIAL SECURITY CHECK,RIGHT THERE IS NO ZERO INCOME HOUSING-WHY ARE YOU COMMENTING WHEN YOU HAVE NO EXPERIENCE WITH THE SYSTEM?”

If you have no income then you pay 30% of nothing. And even that 30% figure is not always true depending on where you live. It is only generally true.

‘NOT IT’S NOT STUPID,HE WAS RIGHT,UNLIKE YOU.’

As I said, e-mail me your name and the facts of your case and your congressional district and I’ll solve your problem in 1 day.

“NO YOU ARE WRONG.IT IS ONLY FUNDED FOR WOMEN OR CHILDREN.MEN MUST PAY A CO-PAY OF EXCESS OF$500/mtnh.DO YOUR HOMEWORK!”

That is generally wrong and if you qualify for medicaid and the dental it covers everything. So unless some weird state like Idaho has some crazy rule excluding men you have no idea what you’re talking about. And as I said before, many states do not means test medicaid and to qualify they would just go by income not net worth. Besides, if you’re poor you can just go to any hospital and get free treatment. Need free drugs? Get them directly from the drug co. but it’s not even worth filing out the form because places like Walmart have $5 prescriptions.

“ignorant is not an ad-hominem,it just means you don’t know the facts are are spewing bullshit you believe to be true because they media portrays men as having equal access to benefits.)
You are talking out of your ass.”

And you’re a vulgar little prole who can’t even use a pc.Men can receive the same gov’t benefits as females and even get WIC if they have custody
You’re just a nasty little omega boy who has never suffered any misfortune like many of the men here and you just hate all females because you’re a reject which is why you keep writing this nonsense about only females getting benefits. And you may want to write under one name because you remind me of another idiot using multiple names. And stop this disenfranchised males bullshit you loser. Were you ever denied the right to vote? Apparently you don’t know what the franchise means.

“Everyone gets the handouts except for indigenous men”[sic]
indigent

‘Not in white mans land,buddy’

Well since I live in an all white area and also have another country house also in an all white area I think that I would know that better than you.
From the way you write and your “thought” processes I would have taken you for a negro and I’m almost never wrong.

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The Whammer June 24, 2012 at 23:33

Welmer writes
Honestly, this is probably the best option for men who get hung out to dry by their exes. Not only will you get food and shelter, but health care as well. And as an added bonus, child support will be automatically lowered — it’s the law.

Well the subject was actually seizure by the State for benefits they paid to a female and now they were going after the man’s money years later by seizing 2/3 rds of SS before he got the cheque and by next year when electronic transfers become mandatory they’ll be able to seize everything in his account transferred there by SS. So this has nothing to do with current child support payments although even here it may be good to look as poor as possible if you think you’re headed for divorce.

I know it’s something most men don’t want to contemplate, but really, when you get screwed like that, what the hell does your pride matter?

The problem with men is that they should be more like females in certain respects. Pride? Females believe that they’re entitled to all these benefits! In fact, they’ve made it so easy that these benefits are just added to like a benefit’ card every month where they can withdraw their cash benefit at an ATM and also use the food benefit part at the store just by swiping the card.
Benefits are not taxable either and do not count as income but in reality really are the same as income. Who even needs money if you have everything you need? Men need to develope that same entitlement attitude that females have. But you’re right, there are many men who are entitled to benefits and simply will not make the effort to collect them.

If all men started taking advantage of the same stuff women do the entire welfare system would crash within months, so have at it. I can guarantee that judges would start laying down the law on single moms and divorcing women immediately if the women threatened their county budget.

Many of these benefits are from the Federal or State governments and are just administered by the county. I doubt if many men were getting these benefits that anything would collapse although everyone(like females)may have to take a reduction if it became too costly.

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Eric June 24, 2012 at 23:57

Whammer:
I don’t have the alimony/child-support problem personally, but I don’t know why a lot of these guys haven’t formed an association of some kind and collectively embargoed payments. That would bring down the system probably faster since it would choke off the supply of cash.

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Rod Van Mechelen June 25, 2012 at 01:49

I do enjoy your longer articles and link them on my site. Thanks for your good work!

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Opus June 25, 2012 at 02:52

@W.F.

I am sure that most men claim everything that they are entitled to, however there is a Stigma. A men claiming benefit suffers a loss of Status, and thus some men will do their best to avoid claiming. No woman (by her nature) could lose status by claiming.

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Darryl X June 25, 2012 at 05:43

@ Opus and Whammer -

It has nothing to do with a stigma. Our dilemma is not self-imposed or a matter of pride. I don’t mind receiving public assistance, especially since I’ve contributed disproportionately more to the system than the generation before and after me (Gen X). Men simply are not eligible for the same entitlements as women period. If they were, then there would be no issue here in the US with feminism. Feminism would have achieved its ostensible goal: equality. There is no equality however.

(I don’t care what women think about me and I don’t care if my children are manipulated by them or alienated from me. I think it’s child abuse and I think it’s wrong but you can’t legislate morality and there’s nothing you can do to stop a woman from being evil – except maybe enforce the law and the Constitution. The kids will get over it or they won’t. If they don’t, then there probably wasn’t much that could be done to help them if they can’t or won’t help themselves, especially after they grow up.)

There would be no financial obstacles to seeing children and women couldn’t use children as weapons against their own fathers. Millions of men would not be on the street or dying or committing suicide. And since financial weapons could not be used against a man, then that would not be an obstacle to him seeing his children.

As far as giving you the name of my Congressman, I won’t do that, but I will tell you that he told me to my face that if I am unable to pay my child support then I deserve to go to prison. That’s a common sentiment among our legislators and population in general. A few weeks later he was ousted from the House of Representatives on (likely) false allegations of sexual misconduct and then he was diagnosed with cancer. (How’s that for karma?)

As far as medical care is concerned, most hospitals may or may not take you and treat you if you have a broken arm (depends upon source of its funding and disposition of the staff that night). If you walk in with a case of stage-2 colon cancer, any hospital including a publically funded one will turn you away onto the street to die if you can’t provide proof of ability to pay. Happens all the time. Our medical care (in the US) is among the worst and most expensive in the world and it is completely broke. Public assistance through our medical facilities is even more broke. Hospitals simply do not have the ability to care for a homeless man with stage-2 colon cancer. As someone else pointed out on a previous thread, our culture generally regards homeless men as responsible for their homelessness instead of as victims of a malicious feminist dystopian fascist police state. They blame him for his homelessness and condemn and punish him for it instead of accepting responisibility for putting him there.

Response by freebird to your post is correct.

@ Eric -

An important obstacle to an embargo is the aggression with which law enforcement are arresting and jailing men for arrears and other woman-related issues. The problem isn’t just that we as men are being denied any benefits of living in a society (to which we have made most of the contributions) but that we are actively punished for being denied those benefits (that kind of behavior and irrationality and twisted reasoning is typical of malignant narcissism.) Belief that there are not enough cells to put men in is a temporary solution to our problem because the federal government is currently building the largest human containment structures in the world, anticipating their need in the near future. (I recall it was Haliburton which was contracted for this.)

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Darryl X June 25, 2012 at 05:58

@ Whammer -

“If you qualify you would get medicaid to cover that. In fact, a lot of this isn’t even means tested which means you can be rich and just have no income and you’ll qualify.”

“If a male bothers to apply he must submit PROOFS of all assetts, and I do mean ALL assetts.
Also,bank accounts,and funeral funds,and cemetery plots.Vehicles,stocks,annuities,ANY SOURCE OF INCOME.You seem to be saying rich men can go lie on the forms and get in.”

The office to which you apply for public assistance (like Medicaid and Medicare) will do a thorough and absolutely exhaustive check on your finances going back SEVEN years. If you have ever had more than (I think this is the correct number but it’s been a while since I’ve checked but it’s close) $7,000 in total assets at any time during the previous seven years then you will be denied any benefits. If you owe child support, the amount you owe will be deducted from any benefits you may be awarded. Which likely means you won’t be awarded any benefits and it isn’t even worth applying. The Medicaid and Medicare systems are completely broken because they reward men and women (particularly women) who spent any savings on beer, gambling and hookers and who did not invest in the future of themselves or their country. It punishes those who were responsible and invested in the future and did not waste their money on beer, gambling and hookers. The system isn’t just dysfunctional by failing to meet some optimal degree of performance but on the correct scale of “rightness”. It is the complete opposite of right, meaning that it doesn’t even operate on the pretense of trying to achieve some optimal level of performance on the scale of “rightness”. It is on a scale that goes in the completely opposite direction. It is just wrong in every way. Rewarding those who deserve the benefits least and who are irresponsible and punishing those who deserve those benefits the most and who are responsible. A greater recipe for rapid decline of a civilization couldn’t be invented.

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Darryl X June 25, 2012 at 06:16

Sorry. That lat comment was for Opus. Not Eric. Oops.

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Darryl X June 25, 2012 at 06:19

Sorry. That last comment was for Opus. Not Eric. Oops.

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Darryl X June 25, 2012 at 06:24

@ Will -

That’s a good observation about our sources for public assistance being exhausted. Currently, the US is completely broke and that likely won’t change. Ever. The US and state gov’ts are trying to find people to cut out of those programs. Men are first on the list (even before anyone realized these accounts were empty). Now that they are, the gov’ts are pandering to women for votes and power and control and diverting any assistance to which men should be entitled and earned to women instead even if they don’t need it. And most who receive those benefits don’t need it. They’re just lazy and have a tremendous sense of entitlement and ego and don’t think about the long-term costs (or even the short-term costs) of receiving that assistance and how much it taxes civilization.

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freebird June 25, 2012 at 07:05

The Whammer June 24, 2012 at 22:39

“I think that you dopey boys are just female hating losers”

You’ve just exposed your pink panties.
The other men have done a fine job of rebutting your lies.
It’s a common delusion for women to think and preach that men have equal access to social safety nets when in fact they do not.
Much the same as women claim men have equal and just access in the court system.
It’s a lie,and one easily swallowed,as evidence by your upvotes.

Once again I’m here to rebutt those lies,men are not going to remain silent forever about institutionalized misandry.
There is nothing you can do to silence us,your day is over,cupcake.

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freebird June 25, 2012 at 07:11

Whammer said:
..you’re a vulgar little prole who can’t even use a pc…

You’re just a nasty little omega boy who has never suffered any misfortune like many of the men here and you just hate all females because you’re a reject which is why you keep writing this nonsense about only females getting benefits.

And you may want to write under one name because you remind me of another idiot using multiple names.

And stop this disenfranchised males bullshit you loser. Were you ever denied the right to vote? Apparently you don’t know what the franchise means.”

Pardon me,I missed your rantings the first time around.

Well you’ve done a fine job, no need for rebuttal,cupcake.
BTW: Your 4 years of wimmins studies have rendered you functionally insane,thought you should know.

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freebird June 25, 2012 at 07:16

Ah, missed another gem from whammer.
“The problem with men is that they should be more like females in certain respects”

Thanks for the chuckle, you’ve now made my day.
I think you gave those 4 upvotes to yourself,not that it matters.

Nice job of initial infiltration BTW,Mimicking male speech patterns will be a valuable asset to you in the future,I’m sure it’s a great manipulative tool in person.

If not you can always call the cops
and make a false accusation,can’t you?
Yeah, and YOU would.

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freebird June 25, 2012 at 07:19

There is a shelter for men, it’s called jail.

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Art Vandelay June 25, 2012 at 08:12

There is a shelter for men, it’s called jail.

The accomodations, service and sex suck though.

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Darryl X June 25, 2012 at 08:47

@ freebird -

“There is a shelter for men, it’s called jail.”

Yeah. And it even provides health care and shelter and food. Tough retirement system though. LOL

And even sex. Although it’s not what I had in mind (if you know what I mean).

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Opus June 25, 2012 at 12:13

@Darryl X

Whichever bit was meant for me I read both parts.

You may appreciate that I am on the other side of the Pond and things are thus a little different here.

I certainly have friends who have either refused to get involved with the State no matter the difficulty of their situation, or, who having sought assistance from the State quickly decided that they were better off away from State Assistance – there is the humiliation and loss of Status. The Employees of the State at what is euphemistically called The Job Centre do everything in their power to be as humiliating and insulting as they can – after all they have to work whereas the claimant gets money for doing nothing.

Also: Our Gaols are full, [Max capacity 70,000 for a 60,000,00 population!] and therefore the courts go to some lengths to avoid imprisoning people for things like arrears of maintainance. The situation is made worse by reason of the fact that a quarter of those imprisoned are foreign nationals come here since we opened our borders to all europeans after 2002 and thus acquired their criminal classes, but I digress. They recognise that a man in prison is a burden to the State both for himself and for any person he is supposed to be supporting. It’s a lose-lose situation for the State, with the probability that once out of Gaol the man will remain a burden to the State as he will be unemployed having lost his job when he was imprisoned and thus entitled to more State assistance. In the meanwhile he will apply to the court (funded buy the State) to reduce his payments as he is no longer working. I cannot think I ever came across a man imprisoned for failing to pay his ex-wife, though it must have happened sometime. Imprisoning people specifically for debt generally was abolished some forty years ago: they only imprison for contempt of court (such as failing to comply with a court order) but as I say they don’t do it very often.

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Darryl X June 25, 2012 at 19:34

@ Opus -

Interesting perspective from across the pond. Yeah, I’ve noticed that other countries which have adopted feminism seem to apply it much more judiciously. Although that can change very quickly and I caution any country that has grown complacent with such a monster in its home. It’s interesting that other countries understand that men in prisons are liability (especially if they have done nothing wrong and there is no chance of “rehabilitation” – of course there’s always the goal of brainwashing them while they are in prison). In the US, if you are unable to pay child support, you are “in contempt of court”. It’s a scam. They give you an order to pay an amount of child support you obviously can’t pay (and it violates the guidelines and the Income-Shares Model). But when you can’t pay, they conveniently change the offense from “inability to pay” to something criminal like “contempt of court”. Of course all this is illegal and makes no sense but since when did law and common sense matter when it comes to feminism.

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freebird June 26, 2012 at 02:40

@Darry X
Thanks for the support bro.
Working men have no idea what it’s like after a back injury or other disabling work related incident.(combat)

Young men come up thinking they are valued that that value will be rewarded in any circumstance.

That fact is they are as disposable as a box of Kleenx tissues.Use one,toss it and grab another.

The pay stops when you hit the ground, then society shuns you because your entire identity was (is) caught up in what you DID.

““There is a shelter for men, it’s called jail.”

Yeah. And it even provides health care and shelter and food. Tough retirement system though. LOL

That’s a negative on the health care in the local jails-offenses less than one year.
That is why we are seeing older men committing felonies to get into the Federal prison system,the health care there sucks badly,but it is there.

No comment on the sex.

@opus
“I certainly have friends who have either refused to get involved with the State no matter the difficulty of their situation, or, who having sought assistance from the State quickly decided that they were better off away from State Assistance.”

Yes sir, my brother has 5 ruptured vertebrae and collects Social Security disability and refuses to enter the State foodstamp,Medicaid system because it pays so poorly to men and the paperwork and invasion of privacy is onerous.It costs him %30 of his income to avoid it.

What he would likely receive is $10mnth in foodstamps as his SS income is roughly $999/mtnh. (based upon past earnings)
And the Part D drug coverage,which is worth almost $100/mnth.
But that is balanced against the cost of his medications,so he chooses the cheapest ones.

Compare and contrast that to total medical,dental,and section 8 housing for women and children.
Not to mention heating,heating is a HUGE expense in the northern climate,and the State will often issue vouchers for propane and electricity.
I know of one young man locally who gets his propane tank filled by the State,but he doe snot have any income other then small jobs raking leaves and such,he is able bodied.
He also gets much more from the foodstamp process,but he also has to report monthly all his income,assetts,expenditures,ect.
In short the State rightfully expects this to be temporary and that he will someday be gainfully employed.
Yes, there is now incentive for him not to do that,but his retirement will be dismal.

To all the young men out there:
Go for the money and set yourself up for old age.
There is very little of a safety net for you,and there may be none come your time.

The thing women do not want talked about it is they are the major recipients of the Social Security system,they can collect %80 of the husbands check for life after he passes,having done no work of their own,or if they have worked,his check is in addition to hers.Win-win for the gals there,as they commonly outlive the men by a good decade,and often find another man after the first husband passes.
This second mans SS check will also go to her after he passes, rinse and repeat.
The system is set up to work men till they drop and redistribute those funds to women,young unwed mothers and old widows and spinsters.
I would guess roughly %80 of SS payments in total go to women.
At the local level, as stated in my first post,most benefits go to women due to that golden victim status and to illegal immigrants.
How can the State refuse to pay all the costs of the unwed mothers children?
It’s become an industry that diverts funds from men to women.
That’s above and beyond other forms of money distribution,such as taxes.
Name one thing that isn’t taxed to the point of diminishing returns.

What GALLS me is that the media actively covers this up by harping on the cases of men using the system,
Bro often gets the cold should for
collecting his disability insurance payments (that he PAID into as people conflate that system with welfare,and hence label him a shiftless no account welfare mooch.

They seem not to see the big picture,nor discern between an insurance plan he was FORCED to pay into as opposed to general handouts.

The pain and frustration levels on that guy are immense.

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freebird June 26, 2012 at 02:47

Come to think of it,if the local jails did cover medical and dental they would be FLOODED.
The one cousin used to commit some alcohol related offense to get housing in the local jail for the winter,timing it just right,but that came to an end after they threatened him with a retroactive 3 strikes and you’re out fo life sentence,he will have to appeal that to the State Supreme Court if they decided to enforce that little loophole.

Good way of putting a guy down and out for the count after he uses the system like that.
Yeah,he should be in prison for life for seeking shelter,that worthless fucker.

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freebird June 26, 2012 at 02:56

Need to mention,the project accusation that whammer made-that I was using sock puppets:
A bit of extrapolation=
She is using sock puppets to troll,and also appears to be manipulating the voting system.
I don’t need to say I don’t use sock puppets, my writing style is unique and honest.Sometimes brutally so.
Someone needs to say these things,it seems there are a lot of disenfranchised men who prefer the safety of silence.
Perhaps they are doing the best thing and I am messing up by verbally (text)crossing the PTB.

But that is the beauty of this site,it lets it all hangout,the good,the bad,and the ugly.
Cue up “let it all hang out”

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freebird June 26, 2012 at 03:02

Oh geez, I am so absent minded.
What I meat to say, was this systematic trolling is likely tied to the advocation of violence.
Men who are earnest about the use of force should couch those words,because the trolls are encouraging (making) inflammatory statements.

Besides as anon age 80?(70) said:
roughly
“If your cause is just it will prevail w/o violence,if it is unjust it will not.”

Those are some words of wisdom from an older man with patience.
Yes, living as a male is onerous,but lets not commit to things in theory that
we know in our hearts we do not want to do, nor likely would ever do, unless pushed to an extreme.
Best not to mention those rare and few extremities,as it puts a black eye on the rest of the movement.

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freebird June 26, 2012 at 03:14

“To all the young men out there:
Go for the money and set yourself up for old age.
There is very little of a safety net for you,and there may be none come your time.”

To expand upon this:

Get a desk job that will not injure your health.You may dislike this,but can work out after work safely.

The best jobs are Government jobs,they have higher rates of pay,more security,and better retirement.

There are now more government jobs than private sector jobs.
They cannot fill ALL of those with wymyn, it would reveal the Matriarchy in all it’s glory.

Take that safe job that the wimmins got,sitting on the pussy shuffling paper in safety,whilst the men are out being Correction officers and such.

Not to mention being an Organ of the State comes with power and a higher rank in the legal caste system,work your way up into the upper caste young men!
(you will be glad for it in a very short time)

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Doug1111 June 28, 2012 at 12:44

Your more long articles plan, roughly one a week, sounds a good plan.

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Father Marker July 30, 2012 at 07:20

Certainly do. It also seems to inspire a lot more commentary which is often as educational as the article itself.

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