Feminism as Ideological Childishness

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by Featured Guest on June 7, 2012

By Matt Forney

Remember how when you were a kid, you couldn’t wait to be a adult? Usually after your parents made you go to bed early, refused to buy you candy at the checkout line or made you sit in the corner after you were being a brat.

“When I’m all grown-up, I’m gonna do whatever I want! I’m gonna stay up all night, I’m gonna eat candy every day and you won’t be able to do anything about it! Nyah-nyah!”

From the perspective of a child, being an adult is about freedom. Freedom to do what you want and act out without consequences. Being a kid sucks, constrained by all these rules. Do your homework, pay attention in class, don’t pull your sister’s pigtails, don’t eat anything before dinner, don’t stay up too late, yadda yadda yadda.

Then you actually grow up and realize that it sucks.

You’re no longer bound by all these rules, but you now have responsibilities, and there’s no one to protect you from the consequences of your own stupidity. You can stay up as late as you want… and suffer the effects of sleep deprivation the next day when your insides feel like mincemeat and you can’t stay awake. You can play video games all day… until you realize you have to get a job to pay for those video games, your rent, your food and everything else. You can eat candy every day… until you balloon up by a hundred pounds and get diabetes.

Only children think being a grown-up is fun and games. It’s more about work and struggle than anything else. Children may fantasize about growing up, but adults fantasize about being children again, with all its carefree fun and having someone else take care of you.

I was thinking about this the other day and realized that feminists view the role of men in a patriarchal society in the exact same way children view adults.

“Wah-hah! Men have all the freedom and it’s not fair! They get paid more, they can vote, they can sleep around, they can do anything they want! Waaah!”

Like kids crying about how unfair it is that they have to be in bed by 9:00, feminists completely ignore the flipside of masculine privilege: masculine responsibility.

Yes, men on average make more than women. That’s because men are more likely to choose careers that are dangerous, physically demanding and/or intellectually demanding. While I was driving to Barnes & Noble to write this article, I got held up at an intersection by a construction team re-paving the road. Out of about two dozen workers, I spotted just one woman, and all she was doing was directing traffic. All the workers doing the grunt work were men.

Yes, men can sleep around with fewer repercussions than women. That’s because promiscuous men are more able to form lifelong bonds and successful marriages than promiscuous women. It’s also because the mechanics of childbirth mean that a woman who cheats on her husband/boyfriend can burden him with a child that is not his, without his knowledge.

Yes, husbands have greater personal freedom than wives. That’s because as the head of the household, they’re responsible for safeguarding her and the children.

The freedom to do anything you want also comes with the burden of having to own your mistakes.

We can see the consequences of the feminist conception of freedom all around us. Ghetto dwellers and white trash with armies of bastards, each with a different daddy. Thirtysomething careerists desperately rushing to find a slack-wristed “nice guy” to put a ring on it before their ovaries shrivel up. “Liberated” girls who think guys are attracted to their trashy tattoos and bad attitudes.

Didn’t anyone tell you girls that eating candy every day is a bad idea?

Now, I’m not arguing that women should be forced back into the kitchen en masse. I’m not interested in telling girls what to do. But as a certain wise blogger once said, choices have consequences. Women should have the freedom to do whatever they want, but they should also be told that their choices have ramifications and that owning those ramifications is part of being an adult.

If you choose to major in a liberal arts discipline, you’re going to make less money than someone with a STEM degree.

If you put off having children until you’re in your thirties, your chances of finding a good husband decrease drastically, as does the likelihood that any children you do have will have disorders like autism.

If you choose to sleep around, men will find you less appealing as a marriage/relationship prospect than more chaste women.

As much as you stamp your feet and cry about how unfair it is, that doesn’t change the reality on the ground. Life isn’t fair for women or men.

Women want the privileges that come with being a man, but they don’t want the responsibilities.

Part of being a man is being responsible and owning up to the consequences of your decisions. If something is your fault, you acknowledge it; you don’t slough it off on someone else. That’s bitch behavior.

Feminism is an ideology of the children, by the children, and for the children.

For more from Matt Forney, visit his blog.

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sestamibi June 7, 2012 at 13:37

Midge Decter said as much in “The New Chastity” forty years ago.

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Quartermain June 7, 2012 at 14:19

“Women want the privileges that come with being a man, but they don’t want the responsibilities.”

Even worse the media, academia, the politicos, etc. encourage that delusional thinking.

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Eric26 June 7, 2012 at 14:24

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Faust June 7, 2012 at 14:37

“or she can find a man that isn’t judgmental and marry him instead. Or she can settle for an MRA.”

Hard-wired visceral disgust is nature’s judgment. You might as well tell 30′s+ women to settle for men that make less than them, or your trollish idea of an MRA “loser” (man that does not conform to female standards). It’s not going to happen.

Maybe when we can create ourselves form the bottom-up with genetic engineering/cybernetics the androgynous pansexual Borghuman can be realized but that’s a ways away. Seeing how civilization is hellbent on committing collective suicide, I’d say 1000 years after the collapse.

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MT459 June 7, 2012 at 14:48

Good article. I had a conversation with a female friend of mine a few weeks back about how “unfair” she thought it was that men could sleep around and be considered studs while women were deemed sluts if they did the same thing. No matter how I tried to explain the rationale behind this to her and no matter how many other areas of life I pointed to where things significantly favored women (not having to register for selective service, family court biases, genearl personal accountability, etc etc), it just didn’t register to her that this was anything other than a gross human injustice. This was AFTER she admitted that she didn’t have any intention of sleeping around with multiple men (she has had less than 3 sexual partners). I realized that women have been spoiled all their lives to think that they can have everything and that there are no consequences for their actions. There literally are no older female sages of wisdom to scare girls into chastity or smart decision making. Where middle age spinsters were once a lesson, they are now celebrated and validated by society. Nobody wants to be a childless spinster, yet their numbers are rising by astronomical figures.

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Uncle Elmer June 7, 2012 at 14:57

“If you choose to major in a liberal arts discipline, you’re going to make less money than someone with a STEM degree.”

Goldammit, didja have to say that Matt? The ForbesWomen have been screeching incessantly that we must take steps to funnel more women into tech.

And now there’s a study showing that stupid male managers who have wives are less enthused about workplace females :

Are Housewives To Blame For The Plight Of Working Women?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/meghancasserly/2012/06/07/are-housewives-to-blame-for-the-plight-of-working-women

Elmer has to repeat himself, again :

It’s simple Mehgan.

A man wants a wife, not a co-worker.

If he has a wife, he certainly isn’t thrilled about dealing with women at the office as well.

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Rob June 7, 2012 at 14:58

“Feminism starts out being very simple. It starts out being the instinct of a little child who says ‘it’s not fair’ and ‘you are not the boss of me,’ and it ends up being a worldview that questions hierarchy altogether.” — Gloria Steinem, in the two hour HBO special on the life of Gloria Steinem entitled, “Gloria: In Her Own Words.”

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Coastal June 7, 2012 at 14:58

I think it’s even worse than that. They don’t understand consequences because they don’t understand how things actually happen. Money just appears, successful businesses just happen and men work becuase they enjoy it.

It’s all magical thinking. Every girl should get a top 20% guy and a seat on the board, and anyone who says about different is a sexist pig trying to keep her down. Wish it, want it, do it! Grrrrl Powah FTW!

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Poiuyt June 7, 2012 at 15:34

Christopher Burney in his book “Dungeon Democracy” written just after liberation from Buchenwald concentration camp during WWII intimated that : –

“The begotten fruit and original seed of ideology is a mass emotionalism that manifests as individual selfishness. A selfishness expressed both by an ideology’s enforcers and by its beneficiaries, from mutual feelings of insecurity, greed, vanity and fear”.

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keyster June 7, 2012 at 15:47

For every stride in political, legal and economic power they’ve GAINED, they’ve also LOST in sexual power.

The barren old hags never cared about sexual power, they simply assumed women could be, and would want to be men. Feminism had to evolve to appeal to a broader range of women. This was the Helen Gurly Brown “Having it all!” meme fostered in Cosmopolitan Magazine and furthered in “Sex and the City”. You can be a strong, independent, empowered woman AND be sexy too! Feminism is sexy!

But it’s not.
Strong powerful women are as sexy as Hillary Clinton or Nancy Pelosi.
Young beautiful women, for their own sake and nothing more, like Kim Kardashian, are “sexy”. Teenage girls do not aspire to be Hillary Clinton or Nancy Pelosi. They aspire to be Kim Kardasian, because they know sexual power when they see it, and Kim Kardasian is worth more than Hillary and Nancy (both wealthy women) combined, for simply being beautiful and sexy.

Why compete with men at being a man, when sexual power is at your disposal just for BEING born a woman?

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ConShawnery June 7, 2012 at 15:52

A perfect example of feminist childishness: http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/06/im-not-your-wife-a-new-study-points-to-a-hidden-form-of-sexism/258057/

[blockquote]… I thanked a distinguished alumnus for supporting academic achievement and he answered by asking me how old I was. When I told him 32, he leaned over and generously advised, “Well, you better hurry up and get married because you don’t have much time left.” [/blockquote]

Feminist reaction to good advice? “Down with traditional marriage!”

They’re worse than teenagers.

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Born Free June 7, 2012 at 16:03

“You’re not talking about equal rights. You’re talking about some convenient feminine utopia that has all of the advantages and none of the responsibilities.”
The Great Leslie (Tony Curtis) to Maggie DuBois (Natalie Wood)
from The Great Race (Warner Bros. 1965)

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wobbegong June 7, 2012 at 16:06

“I got held up at an intersection by a construction team re-paving the road. Out of about two dozen workers, I spotted just one woman, and all she was doing was directing traffic. All the workers doing the grunt work were men.”

I was at a rescue last year for a young woman trapped in her wrecked car. Out of the 4 dozen people there 4 were women. One was a medic another helping out with the rescue gear and two were on traffic control . In April I helped rescue a kid from a rugged valley. We had to hike down and guide the chopper in. A great lady medic was winched down from the chopper to treat him. The other females there who had hiked down with us sat around and didn’t carry a scap of rescue gear up the mountain. They couldn’t, didn’t have the physical strength, us blokes, old enough to be their dads had to instead. As we scrambled over rocks and fallen logs I noticed one of the young gals was using her hands in such a way so as not to damage her long, manicured nails! A liability if there ever was one!

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Joe Zamboni June 7, 2012 at 16:28

The legal system seems to be more and more twisting so that women won’t have to be responsible for their ill-advised irresponsible behavior. Two examples follow. Careless when having sex? Well big-daddy government will help you pay the bills little moma. Not to worry. Drunk and had sex with some guy you don’t like so much when you’re sober? No problem, the courts will allow you to accuse him of rape, and maintain your righteous moral superiority, just because you had sex while you were drunk. The list is a long one…

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Uncle Elmer June 7, 2012 at 16:50

A perfect example of feminist childishness: http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/06/im-not-your-wife-a-new-study-points-to-a-hidden-form-of-sexism/258057/

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I would post a comment but Atlantic banned me after I questioned the sincerity of their Senior Black Writer over his alleged fondness for “rap” music.

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Traveller June 7, 2012 at 17:19

“Feminism is an ideology of the children, by the children, and for the children.”

Feminism or more widely communism.

“by children” I do not agree. There are powerful elites pushing communism in the West for the purpose of destroying the Western society and economy. True they find a fertile ground but they are not children.

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Charles Martel June 7, 2012 at 17:25

Another neurological difference between men and women – men find it more difficult to tell the sex of an infant by sight. The image above this article sure looks like a boy to me.

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DCM June 7, 2012 at 17:41

It’s a boy. I can usually tell by sight; sounds like feminist crap to me.

A solution, coming in too slowly, is to actually punish females for crimes. There’s a slight rise in actual female punishments, but not enough.
They used to hang females for the same offenses they did men as well as imprison or “transport” them. Those females were probably stronger and yet more feminine than today’s eternally 12 year old princesses.

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Charles Martel June 7, 2012 at 18:03

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"The One" June 7, 2012 at 18:16

keyster wrote “Teenage girls do not aspire to be Hillary Clinton or Nancy Pelosi. They aspire to be Kim Kardasian, because they know sexual power when they see it, and Kim Kardasian is worth more than Hillary and Nancy (both wealthy women) combined, for simply being beautiful and sexy.”

You’ve got Kim K all wrong. She’s at least as bad a Feminist as Hillary Clinton, definitely worse than Nancy Pelosi. Her advantage is her youth, relative to the senior Feminists. Teenage girls don’t want to be like Kim K unless these teenage girls are already considered to be sluts within their social context.

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"The One" June 7, 2012 at 18:21

In fact, Kim K is perhaps more of a Feminist than Hillary Clinton, because she will never have a man as high-status as a President of the United States. High status men never choose women as promiscuous as she is known to be.

Think of it this way – Feminists are malcontented and aggrieved. If a woman becomes notorious as a slut, she will most likely aways agitate for more privileges than she deserves after that, and she becomes a de facto Feminist.

The worst, fattest, angriest Feminist of them all was once a slender young woman with sex appeal and she became a slut, a prostitute, and ultimately a Feminist.

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Eric June 7, 2012 at 19:26

It’s instructive to watch how girls develop in non-feminised cultures. They grow through stages where they ‘hate boys’ and stages where they think of themselves as princesses. But, in non-feminist cultures, women seem to outgrow those stages and become productive, responsible wives and mothers. Feminist women don’t.

The man-haters and the entitlement princesses that make up Anglo-American feminists have never progressed, emotionally, beyond girlhood. With typical projection, they then sneer at men as ‘manchildren’ who suffer from the ‘Peter Pan Syndrome.’ LOL

Feminism, like its Marxist counterpart, depends on immaturity and dependency for its very survival. The grrrrls are taught not to ‘need a man’, but look to Big Sister Government whenever their childish instant gratifcation is frustrated.

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Eric June 7, 2012 at 19:30

Eric26:
‘or she could find a man who is isn’t judgemental and marry him instead. Or she could settle for an MRA.’

LOL—you’ve got it backwards. No MRA would settle for a feminist. Our secret was learning that we didn’t have to settle for such women.

A man who would marry a feminist isn’t nonjudgemental. He’s a masochist.

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Reader June 7, 2012 at 20:13

“If you put off having children until you’re in your thirties, your chances of finding a good husband decrease drastically, as does the likelihood that any children you do have will have disorders like autism.
…As much as you stamp your feet and cry about how unfair it is, that doesn’t change the reality on the ground. Life isn’t fair for women or men.”

I am in complete agreement, but you are going to have a tough time persuading today’s women of this truth. The very fact that this blog is constantly harping on this issue, day in and day out, is a testament to the fact that today’s women are *not* convinced and that they disagree, otherwise you wouldn’t feel compelled to spend so much effort arguing your case.

Women aren’t stupid. They don’t live in a vacuum, they respond to the realities around them. If, indeed, they saw a looming shortage of bachelors on the horizon, a realistic dwindling of their prospects, they wouldn’t be acting so cavalier, they would be feeling a little bit of trepidation and anxiety. I would draw your attention to the fact that they *were* feeling just that a few years ago. In the early 2000s you didn’t even have to write this article. Women had their books “The Rules” and “He’s Just Not That Into You” (remember those?) and were on the lookout for husbands. They were pushing their boyfriends to propose. There wasn’t any surplus of eligible single men, so they knew they had to hurry.

But that is *not* what women see around them right now. When today’s 30-year-old woman is on Facebook, she gets flooded with thousands of friend requests from horny guys of all ages, who, for some reason, are still single into their 40s (as anyone on FB can confirm). When a woman goes to a nightclub or a bar these days, she is outnumbered by eligible males. No, these are not young bachelors, either. These are mature bachelors in their 30s and 40s who, for some reason, are still single, and there are too many of them. There is no shortage of eligible guys right now, Mr. Pierce. But there is currently a very noticeable shortage of women, who are in such high demand that they can pick and choose. Have you ever looked at this?

Women aren’t persuaded that they’re going to have a hard time finding husbands when they’re finally ready to settle down. With so many single guys around, including older guys, why worry? This is a recent development; as I said, it was quite different a decade ago. You come from a generation in which there weren’t a lot of single guys in their 30s, but times have changed.

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Eric June 7, 2012 at 20:35

Reader:
I’m not sure I would agree that women’s attitudes were different during the last 2-3 decades. The books you cited for example, were also being read along such titles as ‘Are Men Necessary?’

The underlying problem isn’t so much a shortage of women as a hostile female attitude towards men. Women are so imbued in our culture with a fetish of ‘independence’ and ‘grrrl power’ that they don’t even make themselves available until their 30s or so, when the ‘biological clock’ forces upon them the necessity of swallowing their overweening pride and looking for a husband (or more accurately a ‘sperm donor’). Once she’s had her two kids and is guaranteed alimony, the husband is expendable and she goes back to her previous lifestyle.

All the desperate males you refer to are a pathetic lot who are desperately trying to convince themselves that American women really care about or value them. It isn’t going to happen.

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codebuster June 7, 2012 at 20:41

Good article, Matt.

In many ways I’m thinking that we are very lucky to be living at this point in time. It’s like there’s a new paradigm-in-progress in relation to how life works, and we are seated at ringside.

How can the provided-for sex, the babied sex, wield so much power? How can the babied sex inspire big, burly men to do their bidding, to perform women’s violence by proxy, violence on women’s behalf? It’s incomprehensible, isn’t it. What’s the matter with these big, burly fucktards? Haven’t they grown up? Haven’t they managed to liberate themselves from their mothers’ influence?

So who’s the mamma’s boy? Is it the big, burly men playing smash-face on behalf of their women-folk, or is it the basement-dwelling nerd playing computer games, or is it the PUA forever calibrating his behaviour according to the aribitrary whims of bimobos? ["bimobo" is not a spelling mistake]

So what might this imply for our new life-science paradigm? Is there something about motherhood that is integral to all life, that requires the masculine for its liberation? I am reminded of the metaphors of chaos theory… initial conditions and such. Children born of mothers have the initial conditions stamped into them from the moment of conception, through fetal development and birth, and they then grown through infancy under the influence of their primary nurterer. And ultimately it is the masculine that stands any hope of liberating children from the trap of impulsive childishness. And then we go throwing away our only source of power in the spirit of affirmative action and feminism. Gawd men are being had.

Consider the different theories doing the rounds, from the idea of brains as ecosystems of neurons and glia (Gerald Edelman, Norman Doidge) through to culture theory and memetics. It all hangs together, and it is we who are at the cutting edge.

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freebird June 7, 2012 at 20:51

The courts have embraced this illogical childishness.,at the cost of due process and real justice-her fweelings count more than facts of actual written law.

The mangina judges fear to offend the rabid man-haters.The police fall into line to provide grist for the mill,declaring outrage only when it’s one of their own caught in the unfair trap.
HYPOCRITES!
One and all.They lie to themselves,the worst lie of all.

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Eric June 7, 2012 at 20:52

Codebuster:
As a follow-up, probably the thing that disgusts me even more than all the female pampering is the complete ingratitude for all of it. Even some spoiled bratty children at least love and respect their parents. But what do the grrrls give back for all this pampering and deference and babying? Not only nothing, but worse than nothing—what they give back is abuse in some form or another.

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codebuster June 7, 2012 at 20:57

Women aren’t persuaded that they’re going to have a hard time finding husbands when they’re finally ready to settle down. With so many single guys around, including older guys, why worry? This is a recent development; as I said, it was quite different a decade ago. You come from a generation in which there weren’t a lot of single guys in their 30s, but times have changed.

… unless women ever wake up to the realization that the immature degenerates, pretend-alphas and PUAs of their choosing are the least likely types that would ever have been chosen by their grandmothers and earlier generations of women.

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Centaur June 7, 2012 at 21:58

It makes no sense to claim that there are “more single men than women” now. Unless some men are marrying a vast amount of women, the ratio of single men and women are basically always in the same proportion, since marriage is a pairing of one woman and a man. For every women that gets married, there is a man who gets married as well.. If roughly 50% of men are single over the age of 30, then just about the same percentage of women are single as well.
Female logic…sigh
I am in my early 40s and I have been out and about for a while as a single man. I have been on all those dating websites and clubs.. and I can say with no doubt, that these women are desperate for a man, they just lack all skill or worth in getting one to settle. Yes, you will see men hitting on women, but its all about getting laid, not married. Here is the thing… once a man gets used to being single, all he wants is to get laid.
I am no PUA, but I get laid more now than I ever had. From w wide age range of women too.. from mid 20s to 40s.
Young men need to be made to understand this. With every year, if you stay in shape and are a decent looking guy with a decent income, you will get MORE tail being single with every passing year than by marrying. Without the misery and risks all my married friends have been through.

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Eric June 7, 2012 at 22:13

Uncle Elmer:
Of all the Forbes articles, that one by Meghan Casserly has got to be the stupidest one yet. It isn’t any wonder our economy is going down the toilet if this is any specimen of what the Wall Street bigwigs actually think makes sense.

The only relevant thing that Ms. Meghan actually proved is that feminist ‘choice’ doesn’t include choices that they don’t approve of; and that the Sisterhood is ready at all times to shame any woman who starts veering off the ‘approved’ course.

The general tone I got from the article was that Ms.Meghan seems to think that married men with stay-at-home wives maybe don’t really belong in the Office these days. Of course, she probably doesn’t want single men there either, since the corporate grrrrls will feel ‘threatened’ and have to file sexual harassment suits. So we might as well let the grrrls run Wall Street by themselves. If men think that’s unfair; well that’s because they fear a strong, independent woman.

LOL—I need to expat soon.

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Days of Broken Arrows June 7, 2012 at 22:18

“Liberated” girls who think guys are attracted to their trashy tattoos and bad attitudes.

This is one of my biggest pet peeves in the real world and on dating sites. Nothing, in my opinion, is an erection killer like trashy tattoos. Not even children, because biologically we’re used to seeing women as mothers. We’re not biologically geared toward seeing women as sailors or circus freaks, however. Ew.

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evilwhitemalempire June 7, 2012 at 22:39

Why compete with men at being a man, when sexual power is at your disposal just for BEING born a woman?
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simple, to have sexual power you have to first be sexually desirable

a man has to actually take sexual interest in you

prior to the pill the plain janes of the world had always been able to rely on sexual scarcity to procure a mule

the pill changed all that

it did it because it created more sexual choices for men (loads more sluts to outbid the nice girls) and because it made it that much easier to steal the milk and not buy the cow

the effect on the plain janes was devastating

they didn’t move to job, career to escape mean, domineering, abusive husband (as they’d say of course)

the truth is they did it because, in a lot of cases, they COULD NOT EVEN WIN a mean, domineering, abusive husband!

and as long as we’re going to be career girls, lawyers, etc. maybe we can just fuck men’s shit up for them not liking us

sound familiar?

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Raj June 7, 2012 at 23:06

When you are a baby, you are the king/queen of the world. Its all downhill from there.

The premise that being a child is something to be ashamed about, is false. Maybe in case of men but not women. Women don’t let shame and ego hinder their welfare.

Even I, as a man have no problem being called a baby as long as all my needs are met for free and then some.

If I open my window and yell “I want a case of beer” and some stranger brings it to me for free, its not me who’s being unreasonable.

Women are completely rational. Its us men who are irrational.

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Pirran June 8, 2012 at 00:50

“Feminism is an ideology of the children, by the children, and for the children.”

With fitting irony (outside of the trashy bottom feeders) it inevitably leads to fewer and fewer ACTUAL children. A childish ideology is doomed to extinction.

Children can’t reproduce.

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Opus June 8, 2012 at 00:57

I fear that Reader is right.

Yesterday, for the first – and probably – last time I decided to find out what Craig’s List was all about. I found the Women seeking Men section and chose an ad at random. It went something like this:

I am a thirty something black BBW. I am not perfect. (Yada Yada Yada) I am not averse to one of my ‘Brothas’ [i.e. she wants a white man] and I like to get cosy and romantic, but don’t get the idea I am easy because this is my Ad and I will tell you to get lost if you just want me for sex.

So, not withstanding that this woman is someone I would probably run from, she, and despite her problems, still thinks – and probably rightly – that men have to dance to her tune, even though advertising in Craig’s List is the lowest of the low.

Imagine an Ad from a white man which read: ‘I am seriously overweight and have other problems but am not averse to meeting a super model or two, but don’t think I am easy, as I will give you short shrift if you try that with me’. – Never going to happen is it?

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Pirran June 8, 2012 at 01:08

@Reader

“When today’s 30-year-old woman is on Facebook, she gets flooded with thousands of friend requests from horny guys of all ages, who, for some reason, are still single into their 40s……..

……..This is a recent development; as I said, it was quite different a decade ago. You come from a generation in which there weren’t a lot of single guys in their 30s, but times have changed.”

She’s on the upper range of her desirability, but yes, that was always the case; it’s simply more obvious now because of the interwebz. There have always been plenty of men looking for pump and dump from available women, but fewer and fewer looking for permanent commitment. As men divorce in the ’30′s and ’40′s, they also become available on the market. What HAS changed is that they are less and less likely to want to risk losing everything the second time around and more likely to want to take advantage of easy access; hence the relative increase in available single men.

The biggest change has been in the technology to make this apparent (and possible), not in the dynamics of the SMP. Numbers may vary, but that is essentially still the same and will be for the foreseeable future. If women want commitment, they have to grab it while they’re young.

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Eric June 8, 2012 at 01:56

Opus,
Unfortunately, that ad is reflective of the typical Amerobitch’s attitudes. Actually, if she were younger and better-looking she would be banging thugs and not advertising at all. The quality of women here is so low that even a skank like that will get plenty of dates off that ad.

I keep saying that we need to avoid American women; you’d think it that idea would need very little encouragement, given the kinds of women we have. But somehow, there are guys desperate enough…

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JustVisiting June 8, 2012 at 02:07

I’m confused. I’m reading a lot of this term “pump and dump” used as if it is a completely normal and acceptable attitude for a man to have towards a woman. However, I also see a lot of spiteful use of “women looking for a sperm donor” with the argument that the woman looking for one believes men have no value. I would think that someone looking for a sperm donor and someone looking for a “pump and dump” would complement each other quite nicely; so how is one good and the other bad?

I also believe that the real argument behind equal pay is about the discrepancy which occurs when a male and a female hold the exact same position making the argument about job risk and difficulty kinda moot. Maybe I was just mislead by the national conversation?

Also, just because a woman may have been born or become infertile (by tragedy or God’s will however you want to see it) doesn’t mean their life has to be lacking. If children become desired there are plenty who desperately need homes and someone to care for them. To adopt or foster a child is always an option.

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Opus June 8, 2012 at 02:26

@Eric

So true.

What else can she do, however. If she does not make some attempt at playing hard to get, one would mistake her for a Prostitute, and if she isn’t a Prostitute, then if she is that easy she clearly should be. What is the betting that had I replied to the Ad and we had gone on a date, she would have expected me to pay for the Taxis, Food and Drink. There is no such thing as a free lunch and the same goes for sex, where like the Junkie, the first shot is free but only to get you hooked.

One evening I was in the bar with a married friend when a presentable single child-less forty-something woman (from Encorpera) of our acquaintance came to sit at our table and announced, that she ‘really wanted to be pumped hard’. We looked at each other and said nothing – as if we had not heard. What could we do? What could we say? The sad thing about it is that this was a woman who I was considering seriously as a possible mate. Oh dear.

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Eric June 8, 2012 at 02:43

Opus,

Not only would you have had to pay for everything, if she really didn’t like you, you might have got a false accusation. That’s another weird thing about Amerobitches; they all seem to think a restraining order against a man or a ‘stalker’ after them is something to be proud of. And if they can’t find a real one, they’ll invent one.

The really sad thing about stories like the one you told is they are the rule and not the exception. I remember once going to a bar with my ex-LTR and meeting a client and his wife. The client’s wife starting hitting on me and I told her it wouldn’t be right: she was married and I was committed.

She told me it would be alright, though, because she’d caught her husband in bed with my girlfriend a month ago, and she had promised not to file a divorce if he let her have her ‘independence’.

I hate American women. LOL

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JustVisiting June 8, 2012 at 03:07

Hey, I just checked out your comments policy section. I’m confused as why my comment was rejected. I honestly did not mean to be offensive in any way and was just looking to be part of an intelligent discussion/debate. I did, however, mention God once. I can remove that and try again if you like.

I’m new to this particular circle of blogs and am quite interested in the issues presented in blogs on this topic and related issues. I’m really just trying to get to know the terms and culture. I never gotten to experience or speak about the topics here before. But it’s the net I suppose I can find somewhere else to study up. Oh well. :(

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Opus June 8, 2012 at 03:13

@Eric

I ceased taking Rape and Stalking accusations seriously when I noticed that women boast of these crimes all the time – as if to demonstrate that they are desirable, and that you should thus fancy them too.

Stalking is particularily interesting – and I speak as a stalking victim which is why I have been interested in the subject – as half the culprits are women – as was mine. Are they looking for intimacy? No, they are trying to punish one for a perceived wrong. Stalking is thus a substitute for a relationship, and requires a fair amount of emotional investment on the part of the stalker, such that it is hard to see what the stalker gets out of it, yet obviously they do. (Same woman by the way as in the previous comment).

The headline in my local rag this week is a story of a massive increase in people in their forties seeking hospitalisation for alcohol problems. There is a picture of a sad looking forty-something female and we are told that they are drinking home-alone – so one is to suppose that this is a female problem. I, of course, see a connection between alcoholic females and the empowerment that feminism has given them. Indeed a friend of mine was telling me last week that one of his tenants (a heroic single mum) is presently not at home, being in rehab.

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DCM June 8, 2012 at 03:37

Females are always said to have sharper senses than men: they see more colors, their sense of smell is better, yadda yadda yadda….

It’s difficult to distinguish crap from reality when it’s about females. They’re also smarter and stronger and need government help because they can’t hack it, too.

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Darryl X June 8, 2012 at 04:44

I disagree that men earn more money than women. And that’s not including adjustments for education, hazard, hours, etc… They just simply have larger incomes all other things being equal. Even after you adjust for education, hours worked, hazard, qualifications and experience, etc…

I disagree that men are more promiscuous. From all the data that I have consulted (particularly objective DNA studies that reveal paternity fraud by women), women are much more promiscuous than men. Men may (or may not) have more partners throughout a lifetime but women have more partners than men at the same time. There are also other important differences.

I disagree that husbands/fathers have more personal freedom. All marriages with which I am familiar, the woman has considerably more free time and more opportunity to do as she pleases (including sleep around) than her husband. When I was married, my wife took care of our children during the day (until they were in school) and I worked. When I came home, she went out and played while I took care of the children. After children went to school, she played all day and then I took care of the children in the evening (after working all day) and she went out and played. Same with the weekends – I took care of the children while she went out and played. As a matter of fact, after the children wer in school, I can’t think of any times in which this woman actually did any real work.

NO RIGHTS WITHOUT RESPONSIBILITIES

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MRA June 8, 2012 at 05:21

No so long ago there was a news on men’s rights reddit about a female student who made a project to pose as a man for months for her college career, she liked to know what is to be a man and how the world is from the male point of view, she liked the friendship the “dude” and ” buddy” thing but as she herself says the world demand to mush from men, her personal conclusion about what she prefers was clear, “I prefer being a women because the privileges and people don’t demand nothing from me”.

This “demand” is the being accountable and responsible for your own action.

Women see manhood as a child se adulthood.

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Opus June 8, 2012 at 05:25

Anyway, in the latest attack on marriage the Prime Minister has declared that marriage is little more than slavery. Actually, he said, forced marriage, but I say he is interfering in the culture of another country (India) andI suggested that if they did not like being married they could always get a Divorce (no really) and further enquired whether a woman falsely telling a man that she was pregnant was also forcing someone into marriage or further threatening to withdraw sexual favours unless there was marriage was also forcing. Clearly almost all marriages are now abhorent and illegal.

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My Cunt Is Wet With Fear June 8, 2012 at 05:40

Relax, MRA’s, the “Big Reset” http://www.businessinsider.com/raoul-pal-the-end-game-2012-6?op=1 is about to make a lot of women grow up fast, not just Greek women like this:

“(Reuters) – Thirteen years after abandoning rural Greece for a career in graphic design, Spiridoula Lakka finds herself in the last place she expected to end up – watering a patch of lettuce and herbs in her sleepy village.”

“As a single woman with no plans to marry, Lakka was also an anomaly in a deeply traditional place. “There is a lot of pressure to get married and have children, even from my own parents.”

She used to wear short skirts and bare midriff tops. She has replaced them with loose jeans.

“There is no privacy here in the village. You feel like everyone is judging and trying to control you, and there is gossip,” she said. “It’s a closed society.””

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/08/us-greece-countryside-idUSBRE85708920120608

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Charles Martel June 8, 2012 at 06:10

DCM
Females are always said to have sharper senses than men: they see more colors, their sense of smell is better, yadda yadda yadda….

It’s pointless to deny sex differences that are demonstrated by actual science. The brains of men and women are different in numerous important ways. In many ways the male brain is “better.” Men can throw much more accurately than women due to their superior visuospatial ability, for example.

It doesn’t bother me in the slightest that women are better than me at remembering the locations of an array of objects. I have no ego tied up in that particular skill.

The only reason we’re all here is because of male-female brain differences. Women are better at manipulating men than vice versa. Surprise. That’s what they do. Superior ability in this area is a favorable reproductive adaptation. For women.

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Art Vandelay June 8, 2012 at 06:48

If you put off having children until you’re in your thirties, your chances of finding a good husband decrease drastically, as does the likelihood that any children you do have will have disorders like autism.

That paragraph should probably be changed. It now reads like the likelihood of children to have disorders decreases with the chances of finding a husband. I think you wanted to convey that the chances of the children having disabilities increases.

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Uncle Elmer June 8, 2012 at 06:59

Eric : The general tone I got from the article was that Ms.Meghan seems to think that married men with stay-at-home wives maybe don’t really belong in the Office these days.

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The “study” was concocted from the belief that older white men suck, an idiot experiment devised to confirm it (after all, what functional, competent manager has time to take a gender survey?), with conclusions drawn to support a grand theory of “traditional” vs. “modern” marriage vis-a-vis female workplace empowerment.

Naturally enough, femwriters swallow it whole, because it’s a “new study” coming from social scientists, who after all, have “Phds”, so they know what they are talking about.

It’s laughable yet accepted as gospel by these workplace stooges. Yeah, the whole point is to drive out older, white men.

I would spend more time deconstructing this outrage, but Atlantic has banned me for daring to question their Black Laureate Tawneesha Coates and Forbes keeps deleting my discomforting comments. Many of the male commentators at Atlantic are ripping holes in it without my help.

I gotta go to work anyway, where we are developing an automated instrument to watch paint dry.

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Huck Finn June 8, 2012 at 07:52

“As much as you stamp your feet and cry about how unfair it is, that doesn’t change the reality on the ground. Life isn’t fair for women or men.
Women want the privileges that come with being a man, but they don’t want the responsibilities.”

Perfectly stated.

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Hf June 8, 2012 at 08:01

“But that is *not* what women see around them right now. When today’s 30-year-old woman is on Facebook, she gets flooded with thousands of friend requests from horny guys of all ages, who, for some reason, are still single into their 40s (as anyone on FB can confirm). When a woman goes to a nightclub or a bar these days, she is outnumbered by eligible males. No, these are not young bachelors, either. These are mature bachelors in their 30s and 40s who, for some reason, are still single, and there are too many of them. ”

They see a lay, not someone worth settling down with.

“There is no shortage of eligible guys right now, Mr. Pierce. But there is currently a very noticeable shortage of women, who are in such high demand that they can pick and choose. Have you ever looked at this?”

This depends on which establishments one visits. Some places will have the men outnumbering the women, but just as many places will have the women outnumbering the men. I personally, see no shortage of women.

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Hf June 8, 2012 at 08:03

*edit*

They *bachelors* see a lay, not someone worth settling down with.

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jg June 8, 2012 at 08:12

Here is another one to the feminist insanity that is out there…when will this madness ever stop??

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/06/08/research-study-dont-hire-the-guy-with-the-stay-at-home-wife/

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Geography Bee Finalist himself June 8, 2012 at 08:52

” If something is your fault, you acknowledge it; you don’t slough it off on someone else. That’s bitch behavior.”

A character trait I never learned from either my bitch mother or my mangina father. I’ve never seen either of them take personal responsibility for anything substantive.

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Centaur June 8, 2012 at 09:05

Opus-
The fact that she is on CL looking for some guy is exactly proof that what she wants, she can not find. If she could, and men really wanted her, she wouldn’t be on CL.
Just like the point that women are getting hit on all the time on dating sites.. all it means is what it has always meant- that men have to initiate almost all courtship with women.
The logic of Readers post is abysmal .. the number of single men and women are always in the same proportion, since they pair off and marry one-to-one.
Men hitting on women is a sign of men being initiators of courtship, not of excess single men.
Men hitting on women is an indication of sexual interest, not of a wish to marry.
As someone in ground zero of single life- NYC, in my early 40s, I can say with no doubt, women over thirty are angry, desperate, and insane. Every women I know- friend or family- go on and on about wishing they had “the One”. Angry that they can’t seem to find him, that men only want to “dog” them, etc etc.
The common complain of “where are all the good men?” really means one thing only- they can’t get a man to commit to them. Ever wonder why women always say “all the good ones are taken”? its because, to a woman, a good man is defined by a man who will commit to them, and they can’t find anyone who will. And the older they get, the less iely they ever will.
If I was going to commit, why would I bother with a late 30s woman, when I could get someone years younger? Not that I would either way.. they are all a liability, and they are getting exactly what they deserve.

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Lavazza June 8, 2012 at 09:06

There are no “modern marriages”.

There’s only
1) traditional marriages where the woman is externally downplaying the traditional part and playing up the modern part and
2) extended hookup “marriages” not lasting for long and definitively not until pension age /death.

2 can change into 1 and last, but 1 cannot change into 2 and last.

In Sweden almost all media feminists are in the categori 1. They are married to older and more accomplished men, but are outwardly playing up the non traditional parts of their marriage. But if they behave like they preach to the men, the men will leave them, and if the men accept such treatment, the women will leave the them.

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Lavazza June 8, 2012 at 09:12

“There’s only” means “What someone calls modern marriage is only”.

If the couple has no children I am hesitant to call it a marriage at all. Most of the people who claim to have a modern marriage, have no children.

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Poester99 June 8, 2012 at 09:24

These are mature bachelors in their 30s and 40s who, for some reason, are still single, and there are too many of them. There is no shortage of eligible guys right now, Mr. Pierce. But there is currently a very noticeable shortage of women, who are in such high demand that they can pick and choose. Have you ever looked at this?

Where *are* the young bachelors? They’re MGTOWing. The older men are still stuck mostly in the old pussy worship/courtship paradigm of the old world. They are the leftovers of barely restrained hypergamy, who’ve maybe, finally, learned a bit of game to be more attractive.

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DCM June 8, 2012 at 09:28

“Charles Martel June 8, 2012 at 06:10
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It doesn’t bother me in the slightest that women are better than me at remembering the locations of an array of objects. I have no ego tied up in that particular skill.
………………”

Neither do I, but I’ve seen such an array of statements that women are superior, including even muscular strength, that I object to all of them. Rejection will bring on realism.

Also, attributing a statement to “ego” is an outmoded psychobabble put down that no longer conveys meaning.

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Lavazza June 8, 2012 at 09:48

Oh, I forgot. One way to play modern marriage is of course outsourcing parts of family life to poorly paid strangers. Therefor you only see claims of modern marriage among rich people.

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Hf June 8, 2012 at 10:03

Id like to add a little more to the whole ‘eligible women’ talk.

Good looking women are a dime a dozen. Good looking women with a soul are a rare find indeed.

To borrow a quote- “None of these chicks out here are real. Some of these chicks got sex appeal, but their souls all come up empty”

And here is a link to a youtube video of a song that I find particularly tasteful, and insightful. Mayer Hawthorne, The Walk…Give it a whir, I think you will like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmfcYli6vV4

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Charles Martel June 8, 2012 at 10:03

DCM
Neither do I, but I’ve seen such an array of statements that women are superior, including even muscular strength, that I object to all of them. Rejection will bring on realism……Also, attributing a statement to “ego” is an outmoded psychobabble put down that no longer conveys meaning.

Rejecting reality in favor of what you wish to be true is a female trait.

Recognizing objective reality is a male trait.

And “ego” is psychobabble? I think most people are comfortable with “a person’s sense of self-esteem or self-importance” as its meaning.

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Highwasp June 8, 2012 at 10:25

Speaking of the work world not wanting the older white guy – I am an older male who looks 10 years younger and acts 20 – I recently worked with a private investigations company that specializes in asset location and ‘skip tracing’. I assisted in data base research but was expected to also be adept at lying on the phone to gain access to the subject’s personal information. Yep – There I was at ground zero, assisting in asset location and the legal theft and transfer of wealth from men to women. I quickly observed that 90% of subjects being investigated were male. As though that inequity wasn’t difficult enough, I was expected to lie on the phone, deceiving the person on the other end to give information detrimental to their own well being, compromising their business, employment and / or a family member.

The women I worked with were very comfortable and talented in this ‘art of deception’. I was not and within one month they were making it clear they didn’t want me around. I wasn’t ‘a good fit.’ With berating comments and ever increasing suspicion, I was let go. I was obviously red pill in a very blue pill environment. The men who worked there apparently had no concept of red pill…

But what was most distasteful was the way the women who were training me (2/3 of this office staffed by women) found their ability at deception not only entertaining but personally rewarding as well. They were pretty good at their stories and had many rehearsed but not so well rehearsed that they could stay cool when the person on the other end didn’t buy their deception. In that event they had the female ability to plead for help, act innocent, be flirtatious, ignorant, in need of assistance… Feminine wiles. Attribute it to ‘the art of deception’ or Team Woman, the ever helpful White Knights and Manginas… whatever. The results are the same.

Finding a ‘skip trace’ was even more gratifying to them. One particular case made me wince as the female PI traced a guy, 49 years old, living back with his mom… Gee I wonder why that happened… The immediate conclusion and dismissal of topic was that he is a ‘loser’. I had to point out that maybe he’s just another victim of the divorce industry… what? That didn’t go over very well and I was suspected of being a loser myself. Apparently the PI’s feel it’s better to deflect personal responsibility through blaming the other.

It’s not that I am ‘above’ being deceptive on the phone, I have done my fair share of ‘business’ over the phone for the past decade, but unlike a PI who is selling a lie to further the demise of the other person, my phone based transactions were always mutually beneficial to the other person and me. Win-win. PI’s on the other hand, like lawyers, (and women) are currently playing a zero sum game, where one wins (women) at the expense of the other (men). It’s a successful industry to be in if you can stomach the lies and are able to objectify and dispose of men.

Having myself been through the divorce industry, the Child Support regime, being treated like a criminal for being a Dad, having seen and experienced the worst women have to offer over the past twenty years, I clearly saw how 80-90% of these cases were simply the transfer of assets from men to mostly women. Stating the obvious however is forbidden and I was summarily dismissed.

…so now I am unemployed but I feel good about my integrity.

However, that and $3 will get me cup of coffee. I need some red pill employment – any suggestions?

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TiredGuy June 8, 2012 at 11:46

“However, that and $3 will get me cup of coffee. I need some red pill employment – any suggestions?”

Try taking a apprenticeship. Many of the workplaces that take on apprentices are the sorts of places that don’t care about your qualifications, gender, or race; only your ability to do the work.

Of course, such a place is typically not feminist – since merit will always favour one group or another, depending on the nature of the work.

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keyster June 8, 2012 at 11:47

However, that and $3 will get me cup of coffee. I need some red pill employment – any suggestions?

There’s a burgoening sub-industry of law firms that market themselves as “men’s rights friendly”, which is a revealing development in and of itself.

You might want to specialize in helping men only. “A P.I. men can trust!”, blah, blah… Help men fight back. Align yourself with a “men friendly” family law firm.

I’m in a similar situation, absolutely loathing the thought of going back into the soul destroying Encorpera environment–but not getting any younger and too old to start up a whole other career. Thinking of OTR trucking but you’re on the road 3 weeks at a time, and start out making $35K a year if you’re lucky–but your not a slave to a cubicle either–you’re a slave to your sleeper cab 14 hours a day as some dusty truck stop.

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Charles Martel June 8, 2012 at 11:57

Highwasp
However, that and $3 will get me cup of coffee. I need some red pill employment – any suggestions?

Take a road trip to North Dakota where there’s no economic depression and lots of male-oriented work. Dust off your man skills, assuming you ever had any.

I’m not in a position where I need to do this but if I ever had to expat, my plan is to open an auto repair shop catering to English-speaking expats in a central American country.

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Ex-Army June 8, 2012 at 15:00

Great piece! What’s seldom been said, and ne’re so well expressed! Linked and commented on here:
http://ex-army.blogspot.com/2012/06/feminists-as-puling-infants.html

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Eric June 8, 2012 at 15:02

Uncle Elmer:
Yes, and Academia is even more feminist-dominated than Corporate America. None of these ‘social studies’ would ever seen the light of day themselves unless they first passed feminist approval. In fact, none of the PhDs who wrote them would have been allowed to participate in the studies unless they too had impeccible feminist credentials.

I think that Corporate America is going much the way of Academia. Reading some of the articles you’ve posted, I’ve noticed that Corporatoria sounds a lot like Academia did 20 years ago, when feminism was first really insinuating itself into the system. First comes the phony studies, then the ‘inclusionism’, then the marginalization of males. The fact that your articles are getting blacklisted and censored is an unmistakable sign that the feminist ideologues are already well-entrenched.

Watch for the next steps to include an increase in fake sexual harassment scandals, a few top corporate guys suddenly resigning or being forced out for unexplained reasons, increasing hostile actions from female employees—the pattern is predictable.

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Eric June 8, 2012 at 15:16

Opus,
I agree about the connection between feminism and the alcoholism among women that you mentioned, although in America the burned-out feminists turn to drugs more so than alcohol.

One of the issues I think the MRM should investigate more fully is the connection between feminism and male suicide rates. A lot has been written about the suicides among divorced or falsely-accused men; but I’ve wondered how many suicides among single men could be traced to the hopeless of their situation vis-a-vis the ‘liberated female’? Our friend Rookh has written quite a bit about INCEL men (men who want relationships but find it impossible in our culture); and it’s well-known that our culture shames single men as ‘losers’ and ‘failures’ in spite of the fact that it also makes it impossible for most men to be anything other than single. I think there’s a real problem there, unacknowledged by our anti-male media.

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Eric June 8, 2012 at 15:57

Martel;
I remember in Mexico City there was already something of a growing business field for entreprenuers catering to English-speaking expats. I’ve heard that Costa Rica has also got an English-speaking subculture going in their economy. And there’s certainly nothing wrong with the females in any part of Latin America:

‘Latinas hot and spicy;
Gringas fat and icy.’

I’d like to expat too, though it’s probably a few years out and I want to check out some other possible destinations too. Uncle Elmer’s stories has me wanting to check out Asia a little more closely; and Welmer’s has me thinking of Europe too. LOL

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tiredofitall June 8, 2012 at 17:34

“A liability if there ever was one!” – wobbegong

Shortest and best description of modern women I’ve seen yet.

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Thos June 8, 2012 at 19:47

Here’s a link to that study that was the basis of the article in the otherwise generally good Atlantic Monthly: Marriage Structure and Resistance to the Gender Revolution in the Workplace.

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/Delivery.cfm/SSRN_ID2020414_code1486901.pdf?abstractid=2018259&mirid=1

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Ted June 8, 2012 at 21:00

@Highwasp June 8, 2012 at 10:25

“I recently worked with a private investigations company that specializes in asset location and ‘skip tracing’. ”

Could you comment on any of the methods they used? For educational interest only, of course.

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evilwhitemalempire June 8, 2012 at 23:04

That’s another weird thing about Amerobitches; they all seem to think a restraining order against a man or a ‘stalker’ after them is something to be proud of. And if they can’t find a real one, they’ll invent one.
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not weird

this is sexual validationism

same with false rape, harrassment

females brag about this because it’s the same as a man bragging about sexual conquests

men look good when they get it, look bad if they don’t

females look good when men want it BUT not if they give it away

that is why they, particularly the ugly ones, can always be overheard ‘complaining’ about harrassment

it’s a way to boost their reputation at the expense of yours

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JFP June 8, 2012 at 23:39

This is from last week but I just saw it on another blog:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/03/fashion/happily-ever-after-divorce.html?_r=1&smid=pl-share

(“Sara’s bridegroom read his vows, shivering a little as he promised to always listen, to make her goals his goals, to constantly improve his mind to remain interesting to her.” )

Classic pro divorce grrl power agitprop and self delusion. Good for a laugh.

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evilwhitemalempire June 8, 2012 at 23:43

highwasp
However, that and $3 will get me cup of coffee. I need some red pill employment – any suggestions?

I agree about the connection between feminism and the alcoholism among women that you mentioned, although in America the burned-out feminists turn to drugs more so than alcohol.
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how about selling drugs to feminists?

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evilwhitemalempire June 8, 2012 at 23:47

Ted June 8, 2012 at 21:00
@Highwasp June 8, 2012 at 10:25

“I recently worked with a private investigations company that specializes in asset location and ‘skip tracing’. ”

Could you comment on any of the methods they used? For educational interest only, of course.

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yes, what kinds of questions would they ask, strategies for winning confidence, etc.

this way we might be able to protect ourselves or others

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DCM June 9, 2012 at 03:48

“Charles Martel June 8, 2012 at 10:03

DCM
Neither do I, but I’ve seen such an array of statements that women are superior, including even muscular strength, that I object to all of them. Rejection will bring on realism……Also, attributing a statement to “ego” is an outmoded psychobabble put down that no longer conveys meaning.

Rejecting reality in favor of what you wish to be true is a female trait.

Recognizing objective reality is a male trait.

And “ego” is psychobabble? I think most people are comfortable with “a person’s sense of self-esteem or self-importance” as its meaning.”

The term “ego” means the part of the mind that is oriented toward external reality. “Id” refers to instinctive drives and “superego” means the conscience and the socially formed part of the mind.
These terms are from classic psychoanalysis. They are intended to be objective; “ego” doesn’t mean “self-centered and boastful”. I realize that the popular media and usage has distorted them and that’s not your fault.

Look through the news and you will find daily “studies” meaning this or that and signifying nothing except that fake authority and deliberate lies are being used to try to sway opinion or support some official pronouncement. When you see the word “study” you should reach for your delete button.
There are some objective experiments that suggest differences in male and female sensory perceptions, but since everything these days “proves” female superiority they needn’t be taken seriously even if the facts are objectively true.
The same people also proclaim that females are infinitely smarter and stronger by men, who have utterly oppressed and controlled them till some time last week. If they are so superior how could they have been oppressed and controlled for millenia?
Bugs can see ultraviolet and snakes see infrared. That doesn’t mean they ought to be in charge of human society.

Simply claiming that a statement “really” means the opposite of what the person who makes it or that it’s “really” something of which he would disapprove is not a refutation and carries no weight. It’s a weak and childish argument.

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Jimbo June 9, 2012 at 05:29

“women should have the freedom to do whatever they want” No they shouldn’t. They shouldn’t because the record has shown that they go to hell and become neglectful, abusive, degenerate, insane, delusional, bastard and sons of bitch making sluts and bitches when they’re allowed to do whatever they want. If they are not made to fulfill their duties to men, children and society, they won’t. Exceptions to change the greater relevant truth. Period. End of story.

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Migu June 9, 2012 at 08:05

“women should have the freedom to do whatever they want”

Everybody has that freedom. It’s consequence shifting that is the problem.

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Opus June 9, 2012 at 08:43

@Eric 15.16

I agree

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Opus June 9, 2012 at 08:52

@Centaur 09.05

Brillint post.

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Migu June 9, 2012 at 09:24

how about selling drugs to feminists?

Seriously, go work at a pharmacy. Fill the prescriptions. Try and get them all on xanax. It’s a diazapene. Valium x10. They will all be docile.

Getting them off the drugs might work better. They will have to think.

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JeremiahMRA June 9, 2012 at 21:43

“Feminism is an ideology of the children, by the children, and for the children.”

Feminism is an ideology of the women, by the women, and for the women.

Women are as children. They all want to be provided for, taken care of, and WAHHH WAHHH if they don’t get it. Feminism is merely an extension of female psychology, which is GIMME GIMME GIMME. You never put an end to feminism without putting power back in the hands of adults (men). Women will always be fickle and selfish like children, and only when men have power and strength can that be held at bay.

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escobar June 10, 2012 at 03:36

You only now realized it? Obviously these feminist, well not only them but liberals in whole, look for state to be their new daddy. My theory is that it’s all because of the privileged little princess lifes they have been living; weak fathers who never said no to them. So the psychological aspect of reality that supposed to come from father never happened, and all that remains is this infants fantasy/utopia that comes from mother.

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orecret June 10, 2012 at 14:32

feminism, being institutionalized sexism, is easily avoided… stay away from society’s institutions (government, military, academia, marriage, corporate america, television, consumerism, mass media, partisanship, special interest groups, boy scouts of america, ideology… ) and you will avoid institutionalized misandry…

… and a never ending series of tantrums coming from the bleating sheep within…

Peace at last.

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orecret June 10, 2012 at 14:36

I probably shouldn’t have included the Boy Scouts of America as they are a respected institution in my head… I simply meant to include them as a likely target of feminism in the latter’s never-ending attempt to destroy men and boys in our culture and substitute/institute the cult of woman in its place… We can teach our boys on our own when that happens…

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Georice81 June 11, 2012 at 11:39

I have now noticed for a while how childish women have become. It appears that they are still stuck in high school and see the world as an adolescent does. All that they see and hear from the media, advertisements, and even the churches serve to augment this immaturity. Life has been easy for American women and they want it to continue that way. The toughness and grit of the pioneer women which was still reflected in the culture up to a few years ago is gone.

I have met and dated a few nice looking women who dumbfounded me until I realized that I wasn’t dealing with mature persons but rather with adoloscents. How they dealt with setbacks in life was very telling. Instead of going headstrong and tackling the problems, they would just give up! They would flee and hope that the problem would go away or that someone would fix it for them.

In some cases I saw that they were re-living their high school years through their daughters. One even asked her daughter who the best kisser in school was!

I believe that most modern women want to do well and do what is right. Yet, they are immature and can not and do not know how to do it. This spells doom in a marriage because instead of hunkering down and working to deal with tough issues that arise, they run away, abandon their husbands (and kids) and try to go to a safe place (i.e. 11th grade high). One would almost feel pity towards them except that they are adults after all and should know better.

Feminism requires that women stay dumb and immature. This way they are easily swayed. All this talk of empowering women and making them independent is just propaganda hogwash. A real mature strong woman will laugh at feminism and instead stand in support next to her husband and raise good sons and daughters.

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Damage June 12, 2012 at 09:39

Absolutely spot-on. Should be on the front page of every major newspaper. Problem is; no one (women) likes to read the truth. The more depressing thing: most men side with women now. I like reading articles on this site. I used to think I was alone….

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E June 13, 2012 at 15:10

“If you choose to major in a liberal arts discipline, you’re going to make less money than someone with a STEM degree.”

NO!! It’s unfair that an major in post-modern feminist though earns less than an engineer!

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orecret June 13, 2012 at 21:58

I also used to think I was alone. Thank you, Spearhead and Welmer. Thank you to all of you real men on this site that have given me hope. I support you all.

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James June 15, 2012 at 19:30

As much as I like this article, I think a source other than “The National Review” should have been used. It is historically biased, and anyone with a knowledge in regards to media would dismiss it on that basis. I like it, but it won’t turn any heads.

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