An Historic Wrong Still Needs Righting

by W.F. Price on June 7, 2012

Slavery and the attendant racial problems in the US have left a permanent scar on our nation, causing our worst war to date, suffering and oppression on an enormous scale, and a lasting animosity that always simmers beneath the surface of American society. Much has been done to redress wrongs, but one of the most fundamental crimes of slavery is still practiced, only by another name.

Those who have read Mark Twain’s Huckleberry Finn closely cannot miss that one of the most important themes of the book is fatherhood. Poor young Huck was stuck with Pap Finn, a wretched father who beat and used his son cruelly, drinking himself into oblivion whenever he could get his hands on his corn whiskey. When Huck ran off after a particularly bad drinking bout on Pap’s part, he found Jim, who, having recently taken flight himself, helped him get by in the woods and make his way downriver.

As it turned out, Huck fled from a bad father, while Jim went on the run to be a father. Jim was to be sold away from his family, and rather than accept this with resignation, Jim became a runaway slave, which could lead to terrible punishment.

The relationship between Huck and Pap Finn is often explained as an allegory of the relationship between Britain and her colonies. Twain liked to use such methods in his writing, but was usually more explicit about it, so there was likely more to it than that. Although much of Twain’s political views and personality shine through in the odd adventures and colorful characters who animate the book, it is above all a story of a fatherless son and a childless father.

Huck Finn has come under some criticism for the portrayal of Jim as a superstitious, unsophisticated caricature of a southern slave. But for all the supposed patronizing racism of the prose and dialog, Jim comes off as a fundamentally decent, caring man and, most importantly, a loving, dedicated father. He cares for Huck as though he were his own son, protects him from distress, and helps feed him. His greatest regret is berating his daughter for not listening, and then realizing to his horror that she’d gone deaf. And this decent father is to be removed from his children at the whim of his “superiors.” This is the most powerful condemnation of slavery in the book. It is a rebuke to all those who would defend the institution of slavery, and it is delivered through the example of fatherhood.

Sadly, when it comes to the black family, things don’t look all that different today. Black men are still removed from their children on a whim. Social welfare workers sever black men from their families as a routine matter. They inject feminist theory into the black community like so much poison, and advocate the use of police to separate men from their children. If we were to go by the dismal statistics, we’d have to assume there aren’t more than three black men in ten qualified to be in their children’s lives.

The very deep reach of government workers and agencies into the black family creates another kind of servitude. Black mothers who go on the dole are owned by the government (if not in word, in fact), which then asserts its claim over their children’s father and drives a financial wedge between parents, all too often separating father from children. Women’s advocates in black communities are mainly white, and a disproportionate number of them are of the lesbian feminist persuasion, prone to seeing men as expendable at best, but more often as a menace to be dealt with by the law, and sometimes as sexual competition. They also hold significant power over their female charges, and can exert pressure for sexual favors, a problem that has been alleged at women’s shelters, but surely exists elsewhere as well. The relationship between government agent and public charge is loaded with the potential for exploitation, and just as pederasts were attracted to the priesthood, a certain kind of female who fancies young single mothers is attracted to social work.

Over the last 50 years, we have steadily re-created the conditions of slavery in the black family, and hardly a protest is raised outside of the black community. First, social welfare programs that rewarded women for kicking husbands out of the home began the trend. Then, when the fatherless children caused a crime wave, incarceration at extremely high rates further exacerbated it. Finally came welfare reform that not only incentivized father removal, but also put fathers on the hook for the welfare that came on the condition that they were kicked out their child’s life. The pressure black fathers have been put under by policy is so severe, and so obviously designed to remove men from their families, that when one hears a politician bemoaning absent fathers in the black community one is tempted to tar and feather the bastard.

You’d think this state of affairs would be a national source of shame, but somehow people have accepted it as normal. So much so that a myth has developed around Africa being a traditionally matriarchal continent, where fathers never mattered much anyway. This is pure garbage. Traditional African families are not, and never have been, matriarchal. As a rule, West African families are patrilineal, virilocal, and patriarchal.

Of course, when you enslave men, suddenly their authority in the family means very little. Whether they are owned by the private sector, as in the old South, or the public sector, as in our big cities today, matters little. The effect is to strip them of any influence over their families and hand it to public schools, social welfare agencies and the police. Meanwhile, this is all justified by appeals to “elevate” blacks from their deplorable condition — just like in good old slavery. However, if you want to believe that, you also have to believe that slave masters and social workers know what’s better for children than their own fathers, and care just as much. Frankly, I just don’t buy it, but, as mentioned before, only some three out of ten black kids grow up with dad — if that.

What this means is that there’s either something very wrong with our policy, or something very wrong with black men. Given that blacks survived on their own for millennia before coming into contact with other civilizations, it’s got to be the former.

If Mark Twain were alive today, he’d look at the situation and shake his head as it became clear that black men have it no better than Jim did where family is concerned. For all the supposed progress we’ve made, some things just remain the same.

As a white man, I chafe at the notion of white guilt, but there are some things my government does that make me sick. Systematically removing children from their fathers – an injustice that falls disproportionately on black men – is one of them. We all pay the price for it in higher incarceration rates, police costs and social welfare. The costs are enormous. But, most importantly, like slavery it is an intolerable moral wrong for which there can be no justification other than purely callous self-interest on the part of those who profit from the status quo.

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Thomas Tell-Truth June 7, 2012 at 04:09

There is nothing more toxic to society than taking a group of economically deprived people, addicting them to welfare and poisoning thier familes with feminism. It always leads to the same result..broken families, drugs, crime and illiteracy. The black population was merely the first victim..this process is now consuming poor hispanics and whites and is creeping upwards.

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Eric June 7, 2012 at 04:25

‘What this means is there’s something very wrong with our social policy or something very wrong with black men. Given that blacks survived on their own for millenia…it’s got to be the former.’

The fact that the feminists would answer the latter, in spite of the fact that blacks survived on their own for millenia, is proof that feminism is essentially a revolutionary movement which seeks to impose an unnatural social order. Like all revolutionaries, they will exploit any opportunity to impose their doctrines and social experiments. Because the black community is a minority group and historically economically disadvantaged, they are ripe target for misandryist social engineering.

‘I chafe at the notion of white guilt’

I do too, but the real guilt here lies with the psychopaths who’ve wormed their ways into positions of power; and then abuse that power to promote their twisted notions of social revolution.

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meistergedanken June 7, 2012 at 04:41

“As a white man, I chafe at the notion of white guilt, but there are some things my government does that make me sick.”

It’s “their” government too. We have a black president now, and a black attorney general [who claims to zealously protect the rights of "his" people]. Who put them there? Not me. And have they made any strides whatsoever at addressing the wrongs you have identified? No. Have they even tried? No.

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Ryu June 7, 2012 at 05:01

Whites make up 7% of the world’s population. We’ll be a minority in the US inside 20 years. Political correctness and diversity initiatives are at all time highs.

I’ll let the negros worry about their own problems, as I would expect from any true equal. My race requires the whole of my attention.

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Awake June 7, 2012 at 05:03
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AfOR June 7, 2012 at 05:30

One of the established methods of “breaking” a buck nigger was to humilitate and beat down on him in front of the women folk, and then for after encourage the women to deliver a few final blows, literally kicking a man when he is down.

This is EXACTLY what the state does now in family court to all men, irrespective of race creed or colour.

We are ALL niggers now, and state is the massa.

I have said time and again I have far more in common with a black MAN from 5,000 miles away than I do with a white woman from 5 miles away.

Hence my use of the words “Niggerz” and “Wimminz” in my blog, you don’t have to be a ***black*** slave in 1840 to bend your knee to your mass, the state and wimminz, a white slave is fine, or a latino slave, or chino slave, hence they are we are all “niggerz” IRRESPECTIVE of skin colour.

Anecdotally and interestingly, 100% of black people who I have met understand where I am coming from, and none of them have any issue with my use of the word “niggerz”, and the strongest objections come from bleeding heart white liberals, eg the niggerz themselves.

My “freedom” such as it is, is very very very clearly a temporary gift of the state, and not any kind of inalienable right.

The state can of course jail me, but it can’t make me a slave, “Jim” was of course MGTOW… fuck the system.

PS, in my experience with Twain, those who focus on the characters and not their interaction or the consequences of choices miss 95% of the story.

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W.F. Price June 7, 2012 at 05:42

Hence my use of the words “Niggerz” and “Wimminz” in my blog, you don’t have to be a ***black*** slave in 1840 to bend your knee to your mass, the state and wimminz, a white slave is fine, or a latino slave, or chino slave, hence they are we are all “niggerz” IRRESPECTIVE of skin colour.

Anecdotally and interestingly, 100% of black people who I have met understand where I am coming from, and none of them have any issue with my use of the word “niggerz”, and the strongest objections come from bleeding heart white liberals, eg the niggerz themselves.

-AfOR

I get it, but a lot of people won’t.

Thos June 7, 2012 at 06:00

Kinda off topic but: The techies at Slashdot discuss the times and travails of being a booth babe at a technical show:
http://idle.slashdot.org/story/12/06/07/0229224/a-day-in-the-life-of-a-booth-babe

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dragnet June 7, 2012 at 06:18

@ Ryu

“I’ll let the negros worry about their own problems, as I would expect from any true equal. My race requires the whole of my attention.”

I get what you’re saying here, I really do. But it misses the real gist of the article: that the problems of the “negros” eventually become the problems of everyone.

It was never the case the that the domestic suppression appartus, increasingly harsh penal system, two-tiered justice system, enforced fatherlessness, economic privation, etc was going to be to reserved exclusively for black men. That was just a lie that so many people allowed themselves to believe. These atrocities were always going to spread because that’s what viruses do. Black people aren’t so different from everyone else that we can be afflicted by shit that somehow everyone else is immune to. And now the same problems are impacting the white working class, and in places like rural Appalachia the social problems are easily as bad as anything you see in the black urban underclass.

“Negro” problems are everyone’s problems and black men were MRAs and MGTOW long before white men because they needed to be. The problem isn’t really race or racial divisions–which are mostly red herrings–but an increasingly predatory and soulless elite.

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dragnet June 7, 2012 at 06:26

@ AfOR

“PS, in my experience with Twain, those who focus on the characters and not their interaction or the consequences of choices miss 95% of the story.”

Yes.

But this is really of a piece with so much of feminized (literary) education: intense character studies, which are undoubtedly valuable, but with comparatively analysis or intellectual honesty regarding the interactions, and still less for the consequences and impact of behaviors.

In a word, solipsism.

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J June 7, 2012 at 06:36

Great post. I love how what goes around, comes around! Even though there is nothing positive about this topic.

When Jim Crow laws were being struck down, some in government decided to attack black society this way. It now affects us.

However, I don’t think blacks by themselves were who they were after. I feel they went after women, so they could tax us twice, and then also get tax from the ladies. Black Americans, and their families were the gateway they used to move this atrocity through. Now all of us are paying for it. I don’t blame a young man whose black for being angry. I just wish we could force historians to cover white slavery, without them being able to brush them off as indentured servants. They were slaves too. We as white men, most of us anyway, have a lot in common with black men.

Soon enough, we will all be in the same boat. Again!

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Suz June 7, 2012 at 06:40

Us vs. Them. Divide and conquer. Who benefits from keeping different races at each others’ throats? Power mongers, and nobody else.

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AntZ June 7, 2012 at 06:54

Very true, and very insightful. I never thought of it this way.

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Awake June 7, 2012 at 07:03

WE AWAIT THE CHINESE SPARTACUS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7hr0ECPvug

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td9red June 7, 2012 at 07:25

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Lara June 7, 2012 at 07:26

I’d like to get a picture of what most social workers look like. A picture is worth a thousand words. If you don’t have a chance in hell of getting a man, it makes sense you aren’t going to like them very much.

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Traveller June 7, 2012 at 07:38

As already said:

- the president is black
- the general attorney is black
- the NASA chief is black
- blacks are 15% population in usa and 50%+ of government workers
- historically more whites than black finished slaves, for example for a debt
- more black slave owner in africa than white in america
- and so on

I do not see why your article should apply to blacks only.

I do not believe in a multi race or religion society. Every race and religion in its own place.

I speak for myself, but I believe more and more whites realize how much crap are
- white guilt
- holocaust guilt
- patriarchal guilt
- hetero guilt

Blacks have their own affirmative action. The true bottom of the ladder is made by white hetero males.

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EUSSR June 7, 2012 at 07:57

You americans already pay more for the education of your black citizens than for other ethnies. You prefer them through affirmative action and the whole quota claptrap.
All the while they are spitting in your faces, literally and verbally.
Time to wake up and smell the coffee, if you want to find evil, prejudiced violent racists, there is a MLK boulevard near you.

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freebird June 7, 2012 at 08:24

It is often said Abe Lincoln freed the slaves.(at the cost of ripping the nation asunder and instituting Federal dominance over the states)

I wonder how it would have played out if the States kept their Sovereignty and the blacks had to have a revolution to free themselves…

Because there is no Abe Lincoln coming to free men now,in fact it is the same Federal mandate that is tying them to the Whipping Post.
What to do,what to do?

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EUSSR June 7, 2012 at 08:33

Mr. Price,
as always a well-written article, though i strongly disagree with your conclusions. While i consider myself an MRA (or just a fair human being), i can’t understand how so many of our ilk delude themselves with this vision of an interracial mens alliance.
The program, our contemporary “cultural meta” in the west may be summarized as “Men are evil”, it could also be summarized as “hate the white hetero”.
It was on this very blog that i’ve read more than one feminist position paper including sentences such as “We also must make sure that this new law/ iniative/ hate males education-pact doesn’t have disproportional impact on minorities.”
this is but one tiny little example of the “progressive alliance”.
For all intents and purposes, they are the same people, same background, same education, same politics….
If you look at the situation in Europe for example, alot of these indoctrinated gay and jewish people will stick to their “Rainbow alliance” rather than admitting that muslims by large hate them and by now make the situation in many big cities dangerous for them.

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PeterTheGreat June 7, 2012 at 08:35

Slavery was over almost 150 years ago. No one deserves money for anything related to slavery, white or black.

Blacks have been used by leftists to destroy America because of their extreme differences from the majority population of European descent. You can see a lot about this ongoing race-baiting and destruction at http://www.stuffblackpeopledontlike.com .

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Lara June 7, 2012 at 08:36

Most black men do not benefit from affirmative action. That only applies to the top 10% or so. Black men do have a lot of strikes working against them, mainly that there aren’t a lot of jobs for them.

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EUSSR June 7, 2012 at 08:37

Or another example if you really think all men are hit equally by our current social climate:
How long do you think a white man had any chance for a career when he goes around referring to woman only as bitches and whores? Rapping about feeding them ecstasy and pimping them out the next day? Referring to a black woman as nigger bitches?

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MKP June 7, 2012 at 08:55

This is an interesting article, and I agree that the problems that black men face are often headed to white neighborhoods to vex white men a short time later. However, this part caught my eye:

“Over the last 50 years, we have steadily re-created the conditions of slavery in the black family, and hardly a protest is raised outside of the black community.”

To be honest, sir, I don’t see that much of a protest has been raised WITHIN the black community. If you want to see real protests – riots, fires, street fights with police, the whole nine yards – the surest way would be to cut off welfare, food stamps, and other government handouts. In other words, to un-do the very things that are causing black women to be “owned” by the government.

So what’s the solution? I mean, the complaint is valid, but what action could be taken to remove or alleviate the problems identified? If welfare, section 8 housing payments, food stamps, Medicaid, and other government giveaway programs are destroying the black family … and yet taking those things away would cause widespread acts of violence in and from black America, then I don’t see what the policy prescription is.

Serious question. I’d love to hear an answer here.

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keyster June 7, 2012 at 09:16

But, most importantly, like slavery it is an intolerable moral wrong for which there can be no justification other than purely callous self-interest on the part of those who profit from the status quo.

What’s the answer then?
From Johnson’s Great Society to present day our government has spent a Trillion Dollars on trying to boost the black race up, and we have little to show for it. The Black Culture self-perpetuates with every generation ever since the welfare state and feminism came to the fore.

I would say it’s “purely callous self-interest” on the part of black leadership and individual black men that keeps the black race in America where it is. Stop getting high, stop gang-banging, stop impregnating women – – and then complain that “the man” is keeping you down. The White Race in America is no longer responsible for your plight. The statute of limitations for white guilt has run out.

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The Contrarian Expatriate June 7, 2012 at 09:27

I had you all wrong Mr Price. This is a very insightful and true description, if not generous in its assessment.

Black men have been at the vanguard of opting out of marriage and mainstream men are following suit.

Once mainstream women feel the same collective shunning of the marriage scam, we all can leap to the next stage of our struggle, the law reform stage. Until then, all men should focus on their wealth and personal development so as to minimize the threat of female sabotage.

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Poester99 June 7, 2012 at 09:42

The black middle class began flourishing in the 50s right before the racist statist social engineers won the debate and inflicted cradle to grave nanny state solutions on the black community. It all went down hill from there. Now they are being infected and inflicted with feminism which is the new big government fashion of the day. Feminists can come right out and say that black men (and only black **MEN**) are less than human and be applauded for it. Sounds like official feminism = KKK more and more each day.

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Anonymous June 7, 2012 at 09:48

The black community has to have the will, the discipline, and the intellect to change things in their culture. No more excuses. No more white guilt. It is shocking to see the lack of progress they have made with EEOC, Affirmative Action, and countless white charitable initiatives there to prop them up.

Chinese, Korean, and Indian families come to the United States and make it in one generation.

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walking in hell June 7, 2012 at 09:49

“This is EXACTLY what the state does now in family court to all men, irrespective of race creed or colour.”

It used to be that prejudice was especially focused on black males. Now it has expanded to all males. This has happened pretty much in the last 30 or so years. All men are now oversexed, potential rapists, or potential abusers. The burden of truth is on the man to prove he is not these things.

In the family courts, you as a man can easily lose your children and your property. You are humiliated and degraded and your children are turned against you. If you end up going to jail, you will have a very difficult time getting hired at any job. Us white guys who have been through it know the truth.

If you look at the modern “wanted for child support posters,” they even look like the old runaway slave posters. They used to put mostly black guy’s photos; now they are slipping in white and hispanic guy’s photos.

One thing that perplexes me is that other males are so willing to play at enablers in the family courts. If I were a male judge, I would never give full custody to a female. I would always offer the man at least 50% custody. If I were a cop, I would never arrest a guy that was in arrears in child support.

It is a very sad state of affairs. I really don’t think many young men realize how close they are to slavery. They are literally one sex act and one decision by a female from 20 years or more of slavery and the loss of beloved children.

When comparing life for men in Africa, African men have much stronger rights with respect to child custody than American men do. That should tell you something about the state of things in America for a man.

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Mr. J June 7, 2012 at 09:52

MKP,

Exactly.

What IS the “policy prescription”.

I want to see that anwered, too.

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Opus June 7, 2012 at 10:16

I see that the author begins, ‘slavery and racial problems’ … thus conflating two different things. Is it causation or correlation?

Where I live, for example, I am proud that there has never been slavery of any person, black, white or yellow. No sir, we are not like that, and thus we do not suffer from slavery guilt. I am thus at a loss to explain to you, how Toxteth, Brixton, and Tottenham are all riots involving and almost exclusively started by black people, but I am always assured by my liberal white friends that the problem is social depravation and lack of education, and that as a white male I am privileged and somehow indirectly responsible. How else to explain that from 1900 to 1960 the number of murders in England was steady at about 600 a year but by 1975 had risen to 1800 a year. How wise of my governement therefore, by way of affirmative action to privilege black people over white people like myself with special educational and housing incentives. That must be it then.

Africa, the one continent which somehow failed to invent the wheel and writing. How clever black people must be to create a civilisation without either of those.

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Miss_Fu June 7, 2012 at 10:30

I’m really glad to see you discount the idea that West Africa consists of martriarchial societies. Though I can’t speak for the whole continent, West Africa is certainly more patriarchial and patrilineal than Europe has been for a while. Of course, feminism is just beginning to make inroads in the region, so it will be a different story in 50 years.

Overall, this post was excellent. But I think you are being too sympathetic on the black American community. African Americans don’t have problems acknowledging problems, but they are almost incapable of figuring out solutions beyond the usual “blame whitey” or “we need more funding.” Do social workers target black men? Sure. But I believe that the greater problem is that most of these black men grew up in homes headed by a mother or grandmother who harbored ill feelings towards his father (or men in general). They may receive conflicting messages from both matriarchs and black media: women wish men would step up and be fathers to their kids, but these same women are often attracted to thugs, who are usually terrible fathers. Additionally, most American women (of all races) think that if they have money (through a job or welfare), then the man is nearly useless. Until charlatans are disregarded (from Sharpton to P. Diddy) and real solutions are laid forth, no amount of money or reactive white guilt can fix the problems plaguing the black American community. The feminists and socialists that targeted blacks with their sick social experiments have no intention on remedying the situation.

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AfOR June 7, 2012 at 10:47

@ Opus

as a white man who has lived in Africa, you will never convince me otherwise that we are “different”, just as labradors and alsatians are “different”, and arguments about who is on which side of the bell curve aside……

I still say a black MAN in the congo has more in common with me than a white WOMAN 5 miles down the road.

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"The One" June 7, 2012 at 10:53

Black men are hurt by Feminism, but the reason so many of them vocally advocate for Feminism is because it hurts white men more.

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keyster June 7, 2012 at 10:57

Africa, the one continent which somehow failed to invent the wheel and writing.

In recent history, the decline of Zimbabwe informs.
Mugabe began to “redistribute” land to blacks in 2000 with a compulsory land redistribution. Whites were driven out of the country and it’s been an utter disaster ever since. VERY few publicly discuss the “reverse apartheid” policies of the Mugabe government.

Life expectancy at birth for males in Zimbabwe has dramatically declined since 1990 from 60 to 42 years, among the lowest in the world. It’s “Black Liberation” policies at work. Overt racism and complete incompetence at governing. It was once a prosperous and productive country until it was consumed by its own “white guilt”.

The New Black Panther Party demands it’s own country/state seperate from the “rule” of the white man as reparations. I do not oppose this. If life under “white dominance” is that oppressive, they should be able to live within sovereign “black only” borders under black only governance; kind of like Detroit but without the “Pohleese”.

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Opus June 7, 2012 at 10:59

@AfOR

I don’t disagree with you, but I do not think that is the point. I’ve dated few black women and I can confirm they are no worse than the white variety. ;)

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MRA June 7, 2012 at 10:59

OT

This sound to me like a attempt to steal money from the successful guys at Silicon Valley. They can’t get women to like tech so what about steal the money from the guys using the justice system,? we will see many news about “computer engineer at SV accused of domestic violence”.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/margaret-wheeler-johnson/silicon-valley-is-bachelo_b_1577502.html?ref=women-in-tech

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"The One" June 7, 2012 at 11:13

Poester99 wrote “Feminists can come right out and say that black men (and only black **MEN**) are less than human and be applauded for it.”

That’s just not true. No Feminist can get away with saying that. Not even a black Feminist can get away with saying that.

But what they can say, and what they do say, is that the “white patriarchy” and “white male privilege” are the problem, and that white males should be lectured about it and institutionally discriminated against.

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Charles Martel June 7, 2012 at 11:18

AfOR
as a white man who has lived in Africa, you will never convince me otherwise that we are “different”, just as labradors and alsatians are “different”, and arguments about who is on which side of the bell curve aside……

And that’s the difficulty with articles like this one. It combines two sets of issues, gender (sex) and race. You find common ground on the basis of sex, while others focus on racial differences. This is an insoluble conflict. There will always be something here to offend, should you choose to seek offense.

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Spark June 7, 2012 at 11:41

“Over the last 50 years, we have steadily re-created the conditions of slavery in the black family, and hardly a protest is raised outside of the black community.”

To be honest, sir, I don’t see that much of a protest has been raised WITHIN the black community.

–Got that right. As a black man I’m called Uncle Tom by black people who at this time ignore their history or accept MSNBCs interpretation of it. It’s easier I guess. I give them hell and embarrass them in large public places anyway though. They deserve it. trying to figure out what happened to the black family in such a relative short period of time is what led me to the Manosphere.

“If you want to see real protests – riots, fires, street fights with police, the whole nine yards – the surest way would be to cut off welfare, food stamps, and other government handouts. In other words, to un-do the very things that are causing black women to be “owned” by the government.

So what’s the solution? I mean, the complaint is valid, but what action could be taken to remove or alleviate the problems identified? If welfare, section 8 housing payments, food stamps, Medicaid, and other government giveaway programs are destroying the black family … and yet taking those things away would cause widespread acts of violence in and from black America, then I don’t see what the policy prescription is.

Serious question. I’d love to hear an answer here.”

–Fuck the riots (if any) do it anyway. What’s a few million in damages in the battle for our country and freedom from tyranny and social eugenic slavery of american families black or otherwise. It’ll only last a week [riots], if that. I say it’s a bargain basement DEAL!!!!

I mean, doesn’t the brain-washed princess fight and claw you on the way out of the enemies palace?

Do it anyway!

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Eric June 7, 2012 at 12:19

Dragnet:
I agree that race is a red herring and the problems in the black community is what the social engineers have planned for us all in the future. By Ryu made a point that shouldn’t be overlooked, although he could have phrased it better. The media focuses on the problems in the black community largely as a distraction so that whites don’t see the same things happening to them. We actually have some cultural problems that are worse than the black community’s, but the media sweeps those under the rug.

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Szebran June 7, 2012 at 12:24

White men are heading in the same direction as black men – down. Same is true for brown men and yellow men. It all comes back to feminism.

Personally, I don’t get into the racial crap much. A man is a man. The minute U start having programs which favor 1 group over another, there is going to be (justifiable) resentment.

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Eric June 7, 2012 at 12:25

Ryu,
‘Whites will be a minority within the US inside 20 years.’

To turn MKP’s question around: I would like to hear what we should do about that. I don’t see much of a protest inside the white community about our declining birthrates or the fact that white women have more abortions on average than any other demographic.

The other problem is the obvious one: that white American women are completely incapable of being responsible wives or mothers. To my mind, this is going to make mixed race families necessary of sheer national survival.

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Coastal June 7, 2012 at 12:25

In a similar vein, I note the number of Liberals who claim ‘To Kill A Mocking Bird’ is the Best Book Evah! without noticing that the whole plot revolves around an FRA.

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Art Vandelay June 7, 2012 at 12:34

the fact that white women have more abortions on average than any other demographic.

Is that true? I thought it was black women…

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Mr. J June 7, 2012 at 12:38

“Do it anyway”

Exactly….But the politicians won’t because we have the most chickenshit politicians on the face of the earth.

Think of it, The vast majority of our politicains would rather see a thousand military killed or maimed before risking a scratch on themselves.

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MKP June 7, 2012 at 12:45

@ Eric:

“To turn MKP’s question around: I would like to hear what we should do about that. I don’t see much of a protest inside the white community about our declining birthrates or the fact that white women have more abortions on average than any other demographic.”

I don’t know that your “fact” is actually factual, but your point is a valid one. I never hear white nationalist-types address this problem. They will talk all day about the high levels of crime and violence in black communities – a serious problem, to be sure, but hardly an existential threat to the white race.

How many white people have you personally known who have been murdered by black people? Obviously, even one is “too many,” but is the number really high enough to say that this is the biggest problem facing white people as a group? I don’t see how it cracks the top fifty.

The number one problem facing white people, as they are usually defined, is simple: white women do not want to find honest, reliable, intelligent men and form families with them. They just don’t.They either explicitly say that have no interest in such, or (more commonly) will say that they want that “later.” What they really men is, they want to leave home at 18, spend 10-16 years being party-girl on campus, living the fabulous sexy-single life, “having fun” in the big city with an endless parade of one-night-stands and horrible overpriced drinks. Then they wake up at 34, with HPV, dozens of busted relationships, a mountain of debt, and repidly-diminishing fertility, and they want an honorable, gainfully-employed white man to be there to marry them and give them a family. That’s their contribution to the white race.

White nationalism, at least as currently practiced, is a dead end. It relies upon putting women in a position of ultimate power, and then counts on them to make intelligent, responsible choices and not let that power go to their head. I would love to hear some white nationalist address this. I’d love to hear someone explain how this situation can be blamed on black people. Or, more importantly, what the solution is.

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dragnet June 7, 2012 at 13:13

@ MKP

There are a few simple reasons why they can’t confront the real problems facing white Americans–

1) White nationalists (as is common on the far right) are huge white knights.

2) The people causing most of the trouble are white elites.

White nationalists can’t bring themselves to take white women to task because they are, generally speaking, white knights who pedestalize white women to an absurd degree. And it’s really hard to tackle the real problems affecting white Americans generally when the main people spearheading & benefitting from afflicting them is a largely white elite that doesn’t give a fuck about them. No, much easier to tar black men as rapists and leeches and extoll the virtue & beauty of the white Aryan woman.

The white nationalists have no answers, but that hardly matters because they aren’t important to conversation anyways. It’s best not to devote too much time to taking them on.

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Reucas June 7, 2012 at 13:25

Just curious (not trying to be a smarty-pants, I promise) but does the author or anyone reading this article actually pronounce the word ‘historic’ with a silent ‘h’ sound?

When I was growing up, I and literally everyone I knew pronounced the ‘h’ in the beginning of the word. Who actually pronounces it with a silent ‘h’?

The first time I heard it pronounced with a silent ‘h’ was at an academic lecture. I consider myself a learned man, and hardly anti-intellectual, but it seems like a creeping affectation — perhaps British in origin.

I think it would make more sense to have the headline as “A Historic Wrong Still Needs Righting.”

This is an excellent website, Mr. Price, by the way.

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W.F. Price June 7, 2012 at 13:29

Just curious (not trying to be a smarty-pants, I promise) but does the author or anyone reading this article actually pronounce the word ‘historic’ with a silent ‘h’ sound?

When I was growing up, I and literally everyone I knew pronounced the ‘h’ in the beginning of the word. Who actually pronounces it with a silent ‘h’?

The first time I heard it pronounced with a silent ‘h’ was at an academic lecture. I consider myself a learned man, and hardly anti-intellectual, but it seems like a creeping affectation — perhaps British in origin.

-Reucas

It’s just the more traditional way to write it, although either works.

greyghost June 7, 2012 at 14:46

The biggest issue with black people in general is african american culture. The culture is based in victimhood from slavery. I am as is probably known here a black man myself .Other than a couple of accasions when a white guy doubted my ability simply because I was black at an avionics school I never have had a white man tell me I could do anything because I was black. I have had plenty of black men tell me that and not in a negative way. They truely were speaking to me as a friend. It is that victim thing driving every thing. Most of the racism black people grow up with is shit put in their head by other black people. Obama’s preacher for example Rev. Wright. The crap he was telling his church (in the name of God) wasn’t meant to guilt white people but was meant to keep his ingnorant congregation in line.
When Goerge W Bush spoke of the “racism of low expectations” he had it right. I have a neighbor and he remebers the time before the grat society shit. When blacks were openly refered to as niggers by white people and truely were seclass citizen by culture and law. Fatherless families was a white mans problem. I don’t know myself i haven’t done any research on the numbers but it does seem to be true based on other thingsI noticed. One example was the Tuskeegee airmen. With real hard felt racist believes that black people themselves were infurior the held the black airmen to high standards to wash them out. Black men of the time knowing noone was going to help them rose to the occassion and completed training. By default they (elites of the time) created some good pilots. Their combat record was good.
My wife is a school teacher here in Texas and one of the great things about Texas is the standardized test all kids take. The exact same one. About 90 percent of her students were black kids(3rd grade). Us good leadership and a teaching style that is not the classic modern bitch sit and be quite bullshit they do today she acheived something that i new was possible. Her kids scored as well as any kids with greater than 50 percent commended.(90% or higher). What that says is black isn’t the problem african american culture is.
I could go on and on on this subject but I will say that Keyster has his head straight on this quote ” I would say it’s “purely callous self-interest” on the part of black leadership and individual black men that keeps the black race in America where it is.”

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keyster June 7, 2012 at 14:57

In the same way the Black Race needs to look inward, so do White Nationalists. Our country is not falling apart because of blacks or illegal immigrants (hispanics) or Jews.

It’s falling apart because moral relativity is replacing traditional values and character. It’s falling apart because feminism has combined political, financial and legal power with woman’s sexual power. And women are are consciously abusing this potent cocktail to wreak havoc on men and the Family.

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PeterTheGreat June 7, 2012 at 15:18

As for White nationalists, I think Bro. Nathanael has it nailed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-bIhTwI7OU&feature=player_embedded

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keyster June 7, 2012 at 15:19

What that says is black isn’t the problem african american culture is.

Yes greyghost, and if you’re “too white” you’re an Uncle Tom or House Negro or an Oreo. And if you’re “too black” then you have little chance of assimilating into white dominated culture and thus prospering. (“Too black” meaning ebonics diction, dress and attitude towards authority.)

The class divide in the UK is largely based on backround; what your father did, where you’re from and how you speak. Those of the lower class can rise up provided they learn to speak properly and are willing enough to shelve their “working class” cred (accent). But the lower class in the UK are quite proud of their “culture”. Any who try to rise up are shamed by their “mates”.

American Blacks find themselves in a similar quandry.
Juan Williams has done some excellent writing on this.

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jaego June 7, 2012 at 15:27

Blacks are a different sub-species. Comparing them with oursleves is ridiculous. They have smaller brains and higher Testosterone leading to much higher levels of crime and much lower levels of intelligence and achievement. You don’t feel anything in common with White Women? The Black Man will be glad to take her – and make you pay for the children. You can have the Black Women – he doesn’t care. Good deal? Yeah, me neither. In other words, we have something of value to lose. The Black Man doesn’t.

Here’s an introductory work by the one of the world’s leading psychometricians, the psychologist Phillipe Rushton that will get you started.

http://www.charlesdarwinresearch.org/Race_Evolution_Behavior.pdf

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MKP June 7, 2012 at 15:41

“In other words, we have something of value to lose.”

Meaning white women?

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"The One" June 7, 2012 at 15:43

jaego, I do not agree. It’s not hard to fall in love with a black woman. The down-side is that she is part of a culture which resents white men, especially.

It would take a particularly uncommon black woman to know her place relative to her white husband.

The truth is, you’d have to marry her when she was just a girl, otherwise the anti-white, anti-male acculturation would take hold. It’s actually not a very plausible scenario.

As it stands, men of every race would be better off marrying women younger. Men would have obedient wives and there wouldn’t be so much chaos.

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Art Vandelay June 7, 2012 at 15:44

Yes greyghost, and if you’re “too white” you’re an Uncle Tom or House Negro or an Oreo.

This I think is one of the huge cultural problems with black people, they are treated like traitors when there is suspicion of them acting white. And “acting white” is the only viable way out of the ghetto if you aren’t good at sports or music.

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Russ June 7, 2012 at 15:49

Price,

It’s funny when MRA’s repeat the establishment’s central narrative concerning race. A narrative which is brought to you by the same folks that created the feminist narrative. Has it ever occurred to you that since they are lying about the history of men and women in this country, they may just be lying about our racial history?

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Charles Martel June 7, 2012 at 15:50

Eric
The other problem is the obvious one: that white American women are completely incapable of being responsible wives or mothers. To my mind, this is going to make mixed race families necessary of sheer national survival.

Well that blew my mind. It raises the question what exactly is a nation? My answer is that a nation is a group of people with a common genetic heritage and common cultural values. Contrast this with empires which are multiracial aggregations held together by the force exercised by the dominant ethnic group.

Empires are like the Titanic, giant ocean liners just waiting for the iceberg to send them to the bottom. Nations? More like rubber ducks that keep resurfacing no matter how hard you try to hold them under. The only way to destroy a nation is to bury the dominant ethnic group under an influx of immigrants.

We can look to tribal Europe for some insight into the USA’s future. In any given European nation the smaller the dominant ethnic group the higher the probability of ethnic strife or even civil war. The Soviet Union, undoubtedly an empire, collapsed when the percentage of ethnic Russians in the total population fell to about 50%. The USA will be less than 50% white by 2050. Draw your own conclusions.

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"The One" June 7, 2012 at 15:59

jaego wrote “Blacks are a different sub-species. Comparing them with oursleves is ridiculous. They have smaller brains and higher Testosterone…”

jaego, I’m not convinced of these pseudo-scientific claims either. I’m not sure how much testosterone will vary based on female approval and social status, but I think it can vary a lot.

My hypothesis is that when men are “emasculated” within their relationships and within their society, their endocrine system merely reflects their present social circumstances.

Then there is the problem of those with a specific agenda making pseudo-scientific propaganda to undermine men’s confidence.

As Feminists position themselves as the experts of everything, they want to keep all types of men in their places by psychologically attacking men from early childhood and throughout our lives.

Whatever it is which is most effective to knock you down is exactly what they will say about you. Anti-male propaganda will be custom tailored for each race of man, combined with racial propaganda, in order to organize men into a caste system so that we can be more easily managed.

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Charles Martel June 7, 2012 at 16:13

“The One”
My hypothesis is that when men are “emasculated” within their relationships and within their society, their endocrine system merely reflects their present social circumstances.

And you’d be right on the money. Human biology (primate biology actually) cleverly reinforces the dominance hierarchy with minimum violence. So when you win….a fight, a tennis match, a rugby game, money, sex….your endocrine system responds to reinforce your status as a winner. Winning increases serum testosterone which increases your ability to win. And vice versa.

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W.F. Price June 7, 2012 at 16:19

We can look to tribal Europe for some insight into the USA’s future. In any given European nation the smaller the dominant ethnic group the higher the probability of ethnic strife or even civil war. The Soviet Union, undoubtedly an empire, collapsed when the percentage of ethnic Russians in the total population fell to about 50%. The USA will be less than 50% white by 2050. Draw your own conclusions.

-CM

Actually, it’s why I’m optimistic about white Americans’ long-term prospects. This crap our government does can’t even be said to be our responsibility any longer. It’s at the point where one can deplore the treatment of American blacks here without feeling any guilt about it whatsoever. Although there are millions of white public sector workers who benefit from it, the public sector is a multicultural monstrosity that certainly doesn’t represent white Americans in aggregate, or stand up for their interests (in fact it openly oppresses us, too), so we’re now free to pursue our own interests in a more honest, open, guiltless way.

MKP June 7, 2012 at 16:31

The USA will be less than 50% white by 2050. Draw your own conclusions.

Dun-dun-DUNNN … the ominous finish. I so fwightened!

As long as you’re responding to Eric, maybe you could address his point – the fact that the white race is in trouble because the overwhelming majority of white women have proven catastrophically SHITTY as wives and mothers.

White women either (a) don’t want to have children, (b) don’t want to have children until they’re 38 years old (effectively the same as (a), although I’ll admit at least we get a few laughs out of it), or (c) only want to have children with a guy who’s a 6-foot-4-inch millionaire with a yacht who wants to spoil them. And even then, they get bored after a few years.

I still haven’t heard anyone from the “black people are oh-so-stupid” brigade address this point. Let’s say we could magically kick every non-white person out of the USA tomorrow morning. Why would the horrible and destructive behavior of white women somehow change?

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Charles Martel June 7, 2012 at 16:44

MKP
As long as you’re responding to Eric, maybe you could address his point – the fact that the white race is in trouble because the overwhelming majority of white women have proven catastrophically SHITTY as wives and mothers.

Eric’s wrong.

I asked my sister, who lives in Italy, why the Italian birth rate is so low. Her response? “Children are expensive.”

And that, my friend, is THE answer. Nothing white about it.

As to the future of the USA, I am telling my kids that the USA will break apart just as the USSR did. And that they should make sure they are in a location that is out of harm’s way when it happens.

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MKP June 7, 2012 at 17:14

Eric’s wrong.

I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree. But of course I respect your right to your opinion, and I don’t claim to be some expert.

I asked my sister, who lives in Italy, why the Italian birth rate is so low. Her response? “Children are expensive.”

And that, my friend, is THE answer. Nothing white about it.

Am I to understand, then, that if children were inexpensive – if married couples were given bonuses for having children, if admission to good private schools (all-white, if that’s your criterion) were free, that we’d see massive numbers of young white women suddenly looking to settle down? That white women’s behavior would change such that they’d start looking for reliable, dependable men to marry and form families with, and stop doing … pretty much the opposite?

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greyghost June 7, 2012 at 17:23

Keyster
“Yes greyghost, and if you’re “too white” you’re an Uncle Tom or House Negro or an Oreo. And if you’re “too black” then you have little chance of assimilating into white dominated culture and thus prospering. (“Too black” meaning ebonics diction, dress and attitude towards authority.)”
The point is still being missed it is not and never will be about acting white or too black. It was and is always about good solid sustainable behavior is godd solid sustainable behavior. There is no white way or black way it is right and wrong. When a race is attatched to a perceived way of life it is how race is used to pigeon hole people.
Would it be black or white of me to repair your indusrtial machine tool to restore its function to allow work to continue. Would what I have written on this blog over the years be good or bad ideas or goals for all men. Once you associate behavior with race and not with its solid sustainability you are lost. Notice the destructive behavior in the american black community which is actually a subset that the liberal (MSM) has identified as “african american”
There is no acting white or acting black That is the game the elite ruling class has us playing. From lookws of the comments here white men are just as vulnerable to it as any black man. There is a red pill and blue way to see race and liberal divide and conquer politics.

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"The One" June 7, 2012 at 17:25

Charles Martel “I asked my sister, who lives in Italy, why the Italian birth rate is so low. Her response? “Children are expensive.” And that, my friend, is THE answer. Nothing white about it.”

I’d have to disagree. Our ancestors made family a priority. White women are failing white society. They are the problem.

Better to marginalize Feminist indoctrinated white women as much as possible and focus on bringing up white girls who aren’t corrupted by Feminism.

It’s an old Amish tradition to shun those whose values don’t comport with your society. Feminists must be shunned in every way possible. Let them reap what they sow, and the rest of us will get on with our lives as best we can.

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DCM June 7, 2012 at 17:28

Very good comparison. The left has reenslaved black people, to a great extent, because they were for a long time vulnerable through poverty and because leftists are racists.

However, the hold on black people’s minds is at least partly broken by Obama, otherwise an evil socialist. Because of the left — which also shares the attitude — black people live 60 years in the past. Their and leftists’ expectations are what you’d meet in 1950 Alabama. They really believe they experience this daily.
White people outside the lunatic fringe don’t sit around scheming up ways to harass black people. They don’t hate black people — though the attitude fostered by the left and so-called black leaders is intended to make them do that.
I believe we’ll get through this garbage. The faster the left fades the faster the believ fades.

Must’ve been modern female, specifically feminist critics who said Twain was using a stereotype. I’d guess his portrayal of Jim would be pretty accurate for the times. How many escaped slaves had several PhD degrees and believed in 21st century politics and sociology?
Feminists need to get real about the past, which is their present, and shut up.

Slavery came before racism. Racism as developed in the US, and probably other places, is a control mechanism. Its purpose was to bring up slaves in the belief that they were inferior and hopeless and whites in the belief they were superior and destined to be in charge. This would make slave/master behavior appear natural and undermine most slaves’ confidence from the cradle. It was a way of lessening the amount of violence needed to maintain the system through perpetual insults and demeaning actions.
If it hadn’t been perpetuated by the behavior of Lincoln’s successors in treating the entire South that way, then latched onto by the left through watching Democrats in action it might have faded long ago. And let’s admit that the Democrats were the segregationists’ prime party.
The probem today, aside from the left, is that black people are still practicing their half of the equation while few other people are. They seem to cling to it.

I don’t know the solution to that.

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greyghost June 7, 2012 at 17:33

Welmer Price
I like your article and it shows a lot on your part to even make the obsevation without the ridiculous white guilt shit.

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Eric June 7, 2012 at 17:52

Martel:
You missed an important qualifier: I’m talking about white American women. The expense of children is a problem in Europe, but a lot of their governments (including Italy) are taking proactive measures against the population decline.

White American nationalists are complaining about the decline of white America. The reason is obvious: white American women aren’t worth marrying and raising kids with. If the nation is to survive, children have to be produced. But two whites can’t do it; so the white man has to find a replacement for the white woman; meaning that a mixed-race culture will be created. That will save us, not cause our ruin. The way to ensure that our culture collapses is for white guys (or anybody else) to keep making babies with white women.

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Eric June 7, 2012 at 17:57

MKP:
‘Let’s suppose we could magically kick every non-white out of the USA tomorrow. Would the behavior of white American women change for the better.’

That’s why white feminists favor things like VAWA and IMBRA. They would a lot rather restrict men’s options than change their own behavior. I think if they thought they could get away with it, they actually WOULD kick all non-white (females) out of the country tomorrow, too.

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Eric June 7, 2012 at 18:08

Jaego:
‘We have something {white women} of value to lose.’

Well…I think it could be better argued that losing white women is actually a positive gain for the man involved. The only loser is the next sucker who ends up with her.

‘The Black Man will be glad to take her.’

Maybe at first, but most black guys who do live to regret it, just like white guys who made the same mistake.

‘They have smaller brains, &…’

Dude, I don’t think anyone who believes that white American women are a valued treasure jealously coveted by other races should be accusing anyone else of having a small brain.

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Charles Martel June 7, 2012 at 18:20

“The One”
I’d have to disagree. Our ancestors made family a priority. White women are failing white society. They are the problem.

Our ancestors had far fewer distractions and no consumer goods.

Falling birth rates are a consequence of material prosperity. It just looks like a white problem because whites build first world countries. Here’s all you need to know on this topic.

What my sister actually said was “Children are expensive. Everyone wants the cars, the clothes, the shoes, the designer bags.” And in Italy everyone means everyone.

Women are rational actors. In the West we are paying women NOT to be wives and mothers. The madness will not end until we stop paying them to behave this way.

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greyghost June 7, 2012 at 18:45

DCM your comment was on the mark

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TiredGuy June 7, 2012 at 19:21

“One thing that perplexes me is that other males are so willing to play at enablers in the family courts. If I were a male judge, I would never give full custody to a female. I would always offer the man at least 50% custody. If I were a cop, I would never arrest a guy that was in arrears in child support.

It is a very sad state of affairs. I really don’t think many young men realize how close they are to slavery. They are literally one sex act and one decision by a female from 20 years or more of slavery and the loss of beloved children.”

I believe the word you are looking for is Quisling…

Let’s sell out the Jews so the Nazis won’t beat me…

Let’s sell out the other slaves so the massa won’t beat me…

Human nature does not change. You will always have people like this.

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Joe June 7, 2012 at 20:50

One aspect of the slave system that I never hear discussed is the effect of the slave system on the white Southerner non-slave owners. I’ve read figures from 10% to 26% of white Southerners had slaves,
( difficult to discern exactly as I come across varying numbers).
I will put it at 26%.
That left 74% of white Southerners without slaves. They did not have it easy as there was no reason for the slave owners to pay them if they had slaves working for free.
Also, the slaveowners owned the best farm land. They only planted cash crops. They depleted the soil greatly in their quest for profit.
The slaveowners didn’t even buy their food stuffs from the local white yeoman farmers. They would actually import their food from the north!
They held a very tight monopoly on the economy of the south making it very difficult for non-slave holding whites to make a decent living.
This would be an extremely long post to list all the ways that slavery and the slaveholders harmed the non-slave holding whites.
There’s a very good book on this subject written in 1857 by a white Southerner entitled, ” The Impending Crisis”. The author’s name is Hinton Rowan Helper.
I surfed the net for info about this subject,” effect of slavery on poor whites”.
Some good info online about the subject ( not as much as there should rightfully be, I think, but there’s enough to get a good view of this overlooked aspect of the slave system).
No need to pay your own kind if you got slaves doing the work for you.
They were disgusting : To both the blacks and to their fellow whites.
I wanted to mention this as it is an aspect of the slave system one hardly hears about.

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Anon June 7, 2012 at 22:17

Traveller -
“blacks are 15% population in usa and 50%+ of government workers”

As it turns out, 18% of federal worker are black. Here are some facts for you:

‘In 2010, the percentage of minority federal workers grew 5 percent in 2010 to 647,588 employees, an increase of about 31,100 workers from the previous year. Minorities represent 33.8 percent of the federal workforce; just under 18 percent are black, 8 percent are Hispanic, 5.6 percent Asian/Pacific Islander, 1.8 percent American Indian/Alaska Native and less than 1 percent are classified as “Non-Hispanic/Multiracial.”
Whites make up 66.2 percent of federal workers, the report said.’
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/federal-eye/post/percentage-of-minority-federal-workers-up-slightly/2011/06/12/AGJQPzSH_blog.html)

How about you leave your racist bullshit at the door?

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"The One" June 7, 2012 at 22:32

Charles Martel wrote “Women are rational actors. In the West we are paying women NOT to be wives and mothers. The madness will not end until we stop paying them to behave this way.”

They think they are rational, but they have drank the same kool-aid as everyone else. I took the red pill and I know these cunts are twisted.

Now we have a situation wherein two opposed factions accuse each other of being delusional, and seek to make it so by manifesting a reality which supports their own agenda.

This is how it appears now, but the men’s faction has the superior grasp of objective reality, superior foresight, historians, statisticians, scientists, and innovators.

Not only is our faction objectively more accurate about our present circumstances, and where we’re headed, but we’re also more capable of manifesting the changes we desire.

Modern women most certainly are not “rational actors” and they will appear more irrational in the future, due to their own lack of foresight. Also they will appear more irrational due to men manifesting a morally improved society.

But yes, you’re definitely right about the last part. The madness will not end before we stop paying for them to betray us. Even so, a truly rational acting woman would forgoe immediate gratification for a strong family.

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Ode June 7, 2012 at 23:54

Lara says
“I’d like to get a picture of what most social workers look like. A picture is worth a thousand words. If you don’t have a chance in hell of getting a man, it makes sense you aren’t going to like them very much.”

Google image search:
“feminist social worker”
http://www.ssw.umaryland.edu/bin/r/f/svoboda.JPG

According to the link, that’s the University of Maryland PHD student program. This person, Deborah, writes in her academic resume
“Research Interests
Feminist organizations; program development and policy construction related to community based services and advocacy in response to gender based violence”

Woah that sounds like a lot of mumbo jumbo
I never was a PHD student back in college but I’m smart enough call out bull shit when I smell it. the part about “gender based violence” basically means she’s a man hater.
I don’t blame Deborah for being ugly, some people are just naturally born ugly so they can’t help it,……but she chose to take the path of man hating feminism with the help of the education system too of course.

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Opus June 8, 2012 at 01:41

Perhaps, not being American, I have not entirely understood the severity and impact of your civil war, for it surprised me that the author should describe it as your ‘worst war to date’ and that there is a lasting animosity that ‘always simmers beneath the surface of American society’. I can only think of two other wars on American soil – other than the long series of skirmishes with the Indians – and thus I would have supposed that WW1 where you suffered 115,000 fatalities (sorry about that) or WW2 which must have been worse, never mind Viet-Nam, is seen as less awful.

De Tocqueville said something interesting about American slavery; that in the south the white people and the slaves lived in greater intimacy and friendliness than in the North where White and Black were of equal legal status. He also observed that plantations worked by non-slaves were more efficient and profitable than those worked by Slaves.

We had two civil wars here (apart from the Glorious Revolution) and this is what Tacitus wrote in about 100A.D. – presumably being told this by his father-in-law Agricola – ‘The Britons readily submit to military service, payment of tribute, and other obligations imposed by government, provided there is no abuse. That they resent bitterly; for they are broken in to obedience, but not yet to slavery’.

‘Never, never, never will be slaves’ as we sing.

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American June 8, 2012 at 03:37

The white Gender-feminist establishment are the think tanks or “constructionists” if you will, of not only the black matriarchal underclass, but all the broken / divided American matriarchy.
If the white Gender-feminist constructionist community that now dominate the new American bureaucratic “Pork-ocracy” are so fond of “matriarchy”, they why do they send their children to private schools with 50% male teachers, while the broken, divided, un-educated matriarchal underclass get to send their children to public schools where the only males around are the ones frisking the violent matriarchy for guns and knives at the door.
White Gender-Raunch stay top of American universities by claiming their patriarchy is actually a matriarchy, and the broken violent un-educated matriarchal underclass is actually “the patriarchy”.

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American June 8, 2012 at 03:41

The spin doctors of main stream American media have told us up is down, left is right, and the broken, un-educated, violent matriarchal underclass is actually “The patriarchy”.

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DCM June 8, 2012 at 03:54

The US Civil War has had lasting effects. The total number killed for a long time, maybe still, amounted to more casualties than in all our other wars added up. It was something approaching 10% of the population at the time — I could be misremembering the exact number.
Contrary to popular teaching (victors write the histories) the South was the better educated section.

There were other elements, but what matters is that it destroyed the carefully constructed balance between federal and state governments. The states were supposed to be equal to the federal government, but now anything having to do with states’ rights is attacked as racist.

I’m not sure what else Lincoln could have done, given that Britain was still the world superpower and was firmly in control of Canada, but he is in fact the greatest of US criminals. We’re taught to revere him but he destroyed the original government and despite the appearance of “reconstructing” the system it has never since worked right.
He doubted the equality of black people and slavery remained legal in the northern states that practiced it until, I think, 1867; it ended in the South in 1865 with the Yankee occupation. The present Capitol building was being built by slaves owned by the Federal government and the state of Maryland as Lincoln proclaimed Southern slaves free.
He probably wanted to forgive and forget but the radicals who took over after his assassination tried to see to it that the South could only recover slowly — and succeeded in keeping it poor into the mid 1900s.

The perpetuation of racism resulted from this.

The war’s effects are massive and detrimental….

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Ode June 8, 2012 at 04:02

Anon says

How about you leave your racist bullshit at the door?

That’s not an intellectual argument. You are not making any points.
That’s name calling and what better way to admit you lost the debate.

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meistergedanken June 8, 2012 at 04:58

Opus [inadvisedly] wrote: “I have not entirely understood the severity and impact of your civil war, for it surprised me that the author should describe it as your ‘worst war to date’ ”

Total dead: 625,000. Of course it’s worst because you add together the casualty list of BOTH SIDES. Show a little propriety, please.

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Charles Martel June 8, 2012 at 06:59

“The One”
Modern women most certainly are not “rational actors” and they will appear more irrational in the future, due to their own lack of foresight. Also they will appear more irrational due to men manifesting a morally improved society.

“Rational actors” does not mean women are rational “thinkers.” All it means is that women respond to incentives in predictable ways.

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Migu June 8, 2012 at 07:12

All good points. The first experiment with this was the American Indian Reserveations. The BIA is the first welfare experiment in The United States.

You’d think people would’ve learned.

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Migu June 8, 2012 at 07:31

There were slaves in England. And English captains bought and sold them to Americans, and other colonists.

http://www.umich.edu/~ece/student_projects/slavery/index.html

The Parliament bought them and freed them.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/lesson27.htm

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Migu June 8, 2012 at 08:23

Total dead: 625,000. Of course it’s worst because you add together the casualty list of BOTH SIDES. Show a little propriety, please.

New Estimate 750,000

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17604991

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PeterTheGreat June 8, 2012 at 08:25

MKP@
“As long as you’re responding to Eric, maybe you could address his point – the fact that the white race is in trouble because the overwhelming majority of white women have proven catastrophically SHITTY as wives and mothers.”

This is only a symptom of the problem. Women have been systematically taught to hate men, marriage, real Christianity, etc.

Same with Blacks being systematically taught to hate Whites. Just watch TV and you’ll see all the programming.

Look at the communists, jews, white self-haters, degenerates, etc. who are behind all of this, and who profit from it.

Women have to be put back into their places, and I’m afraid that AFoR is correct that it is going to take a massive depression/economic dislocation to make things bad enough that White men as a group bond and make it happen.

Women will do what they are trained to do. Right now they are trained in feminist ideology at home, in church and in schools and society.

Being more alpha will enable a man to retrain them one at a time, but for societal redirection will take something which will break the psychological programming.

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PeterTheGreat June 8, 2012 at 08:28

Charles Martel@
:I asked my sister, who lives in Italy, why the Italian birth rate is so low. Her response? “Children are expensive.”
And that, my friend, is THE answer. Nothing white about it.”

The old saying was, “It isn’t the high cost of living, it is the cost of living high.”

The idea that children are too expensive is part of the programming;; as well as the idea that women are entitled to living high, and to enjoy their life as they want – without a man or kids.

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PeterTheGreat June 8, 2012 at 08:43

meistergedanken @

“Total dead: 625,000. Of course it’s worst because you add together the casualty list of BOTH SIDES. Show a little propriety, please.”

Actually it is becoming known that the South lost well over 1 million soldiers and civilians, including women and children, from the scorched earth policies of the Yankees.

The victors, the Yankees, have consistently tried to downplay what they did to the Confederate States, to lessen the abhorrence of future generations. The slaughter of innocents, burning of cities, uprooting and moving of civilians to the North, starving Southern prisoners of war to death, wholesale desecration of Churches, and attempted wholesale starvation of the Southern populace after the war, were all Yankee policies, never apologized for, never made right,

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Geography Bee Finalist himself June 8, 2012 at 08:45

@ Ode

Deborah from the University of Maryland’s Social Work PHD program’s (from the link supplied) looks would IMPROVE if she was smacked in the face with a lead pipe. I’ve seen more attractive:

1) burn victims;
2) meth addicts;
and 3) famine victims.

Considering that burn victims, meth addicts, and famine victims get help from their distress from MALES, i would say that all three categories also have more attractive personalities than this cunt Deborah.

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Craig June 8, 2012 at 08:46

2.2 per 100,000 non-Hispanic white males died from homicide using firearms in the US 2001 (National Vital Statistics Report, CDC, 2003)

28.2 per 100,000 non-Hispanic black males died from homicide using firearms in the US 2001 (National Vital Statistics Report, CDC, 2003)

The firearms homicide rate for black males is 13 times greater than for white males. What can I, a white male, do about this? Not much.

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Joe June 8, 2012 at 08:52

There were white slaves down south also: Check out Michael Hoffman’s website: http://www.revisionisthistory.org/
Also, there were black slaveowners down south, as well. Yes, there were blacks down south who were slave owners.
The narrative of the history of slavery has been greatly distorted by those who want to foment racial discord.( my opinion)
For info about black slave owners, go to:
http://www.blackinformant.com
Also, search ” black slave owners”. There’s alot of info online about this overlooked aspect of slavery.
The story of slavery is alot more involved that the simplistic accounts of it we learn in school, or in our mainstream media and the “abridged” Madison Ave books on our library shelves and in the bookstores (especially the chain book stores).

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Pops June 8, 2012 at 09:29

Blacks are a different sub-species. Comparing them with oursleves is ridiculous. They have smaller brains and higher Testosterone leading to much higher levels of crime and much lower levels of intelligence and achievement.

There is no human sub-species. There are simply variances within the single species. And as far as brain size, anthropologist Philip Tobias has concluded the opposite of what you say:

http://www.africaresource.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=554:race-and-brain-size-blacks-have-bigger-brains&catid=105:genetics&Itemid=360

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Lara June 8, 2012 at 09:41

@dragnet
“extoll the virtue & beauty of the white Aryan woman”

As a man named Francesco Petrarch wisely said, “Rarely do great beauty and great virtue dwell together.”
I’m surprised you don’t already know this.

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Rmaxd June 8, 2012 at 09:47

I dont know why Price is suggesting Africa isnt matriarchial, Africa has probably the most amount of matriarchial tribes in the world …

Also everyone knows african women, are ridiculously more masculine then regular women, due to their biology, making their roles as mothers far more masculine & their communities far more matriarchial & female led then western familial societies

While white women, may be more feral, & promiscous, but theyre nowhere the massive ghetto’s & crime single african women create

For an example of the number of matriarchial tribes in africa ..

From matriarchiv

In Africa there are the Luapula in Zambia, the Ashanti and the Akan in Ghana, the Ila in Zimbabwe, the Yoruba and the Bidjogo in West Africa; numerous matriarchal peoples. In the north there are the Tuareg people and the Kabylei and the Sudan.

That list is not exhaustive. Discover further interesting examples by browsing through the online catalog of the MatriArchiv.

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dragnet June 8, 2012 at 11:51

@ Rmaxd

“In Africa there are the Luapula in Zambia, the Ashanti and the Akan in Ghana, the Ila in Zimbabwe, the Yoruba and the Bidjogo in West Africa; numerous matriarchal peoples. In the north there are the Tuareg people and the Kabylei and the Sudan.”

The tribes here aren’t “matriarchal”. They are “matrilineal” meaning lineage was assigned based on their mother. This was done for the same reason Jews made Jewishness heritable through the mother: that a child’s mother was always known, but the father was harder to know.

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"The One" June 8, 2012 at 13:03

Charles Martel wrote “Rational actors” does not mean women are rational “thinkers.” All it means is that women respond to incentives in predictable ways.”

I know what you meant. One of our generals said the same thing about the government of Iran. To me, it meant more than just predictable responsiveness to incentives. I interpreted it to mean they were rational in their self-interest.

To some extent, you’re right, but the average western woman is only a “rational actor” where her short term self-interest (immediate gratification) is concerned.

Looking beyond immediate gratification, the wife who cheats on her husband, or divorces him for a few years of sexual “liberation” from her marriage vows, she often ends up a bitter and lonely hag.

So I guess it all comes down to the length of her attention span. And you’re right that they do have some incentives to betray their men.

Nevertheless, we must not absolve them of their responsibility for being greedy, immoral, self-centered sluts. It just rubs me the wrong way to call them “rational actors”. Our job is to prove that they are not rational actors.

But I get your intended meaning. We need to change those incentives. But we must also slut-shame them and leave them lonely when they betray us.

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Eric June 8, 2012 at 14:33

Dragnet;
During the 19th Century it was the established theory, based on matriarchial tribes in Africa and some European artifacts, that prehistoric man was originally martriarchial, worshipped an earth-goddess, and that civilization became possible after the Matriarchy was overthrown. The feminists were always attacking that theory because it implied that the ‘Patriarchy’, which they despised, was responsible for civilization.

But during the last decade, DNA evidence and further archaeological discoveries—especially in Africa, which proved what you mentioned is true, that African societies were matrilineal and not matriarchal, have really caused the established theory to be thrown into question. There’s a lot of serious doubt among anthropologists as to whether a Matriarchy ever existed at all in prehistoric times.

True to form, though, since anthropology is a heavily feminist-dominated field, the newer discoveries are being swept under the rug; and the same feminists who used to denounce the established theory are now its biggest defenders. These recent discoveries are discrediting feminism even more than the older theories did. The feminist academics are showing once again that ideology, and not facts, is really what they’re promoting.

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American June 8, 2012 at 18:55

The main stream media elite who “construct” that patriarchy is ignorance and violence, are the ones who get to send their children to private schools where 50% of the teachers are male.
The poor, broken, and divided un-educated laborers Get to send their children into “the matriarchy” of ignorance and violence; they send their children to public schools where only 12% of the teachers are male.
The main stream media Elite talk with forked tongues. They Vilify patriarchy with one side of their tongue, while they send their children to orderly patriarchal schools with the other.

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Eric June 8, 2012 at 19:27

American;
Yes, that’s the same thing with the feminists in academia changing their stripes about prehistoric matriarchy. Before, they were critical of the established thesis because it implied that civilisation wasn’t possible without male dominance. Now that the theory of prehistoric matriarchy is open to question, they’re trying desperately to keep it afloat because their whole scenario about ‘patriarchal oppression’ goes down the drain the minute it’s proven that matriarchy never existed in the first place.

The media elites are taking their cues and trying to palm off on the public fake scenarios about prehistory being some idyllic Golden Age when women ran everything, and worshipped an earth goodess, and today’s women need to discover the ‘goddess within’ &c. I think they’re doing some pre-emptive damage control because even academia won’t be able to ignore the facts forever.

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Ted June 8, 2012 at 21:16

“anthropology is a heavily feminist-dominated field, the newer discoveries are being swept under the rug;”

They way it seems to work is that you grab the information channels about some subject and put yourself into the way of the flow of information; then you can set about saying it the way you want. The only way to judge the quality of information is by consistency, so it helps if it’s an arcane subject that few others are interested in, and it really helps if those others are feminist too. You try to get the echo chamber ringing. It also helps if it’s difficult for anyone to check the facts; like describing what it was like thousands of years in the past, or interactions within a species that most of us won’t see outside of a zoo.

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The Caliph June 9, 2012 at 00:36

Rmaxd June 8, 2012 at 09:47

“In Africa there are the Luapula in Zambia, the Ashanti and the Akan in Ghana, the Ila in Zimbabwe, the Yoruba and the Bidjogo in West Africa; numerous matriarchal peoples. In the north there are the Tuareg people and the Kabylei and the Sudan.”

This is the part where i as a Nigerian (Yoruba) will make you look stupid.

NO. Us Yorubas are not matriacal by a long shot, so unless you and the idiot you’re quoting want to tell me you know more about my culture born and bred than me.

I suggest you put a sock in right there.

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The Caliph June 9, 2012 at 00:41

@dragnet June 8, 2012 at 11:51

“The tribes here aren’t “matriarchal”. They are “matrilineal” meaning lineage was assigned based on their mother. This was done for the same reason Jews made Jewishness heritable through the mother: that a child’s mother was always known, but the father was harder to know.”

Wrong again, Yorubas (can’t speak for other tribes listed) trace their ancestry from the fathers side.

Infact when a yoruba tells you where he is from, he’s refering to where his fathers family ancestry is from not where he was born.

As an example a well ‘culturised’ yoruba guy even if born in seatle if you were to ask him where he’s from will tell you the name of his fathers ancestral homeland in Yoruba land in Nigeria.

NOT MATRILEANAL or MATRIFOCAL OR INSERT WHATEVER MATRI YOU WANT.

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dragnet June 9, 2012 at 05:23

@ The Caliph

You are right. I know specifically that the Taureg, Akan, and Ashanti are matrilineal—I should have just specified that.

But NONE of these people are matriarchies.

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Angry Happy June 9, 2012 at 06:13

The point is, there can’t be one article on The Spearhead pertaining to race / people of colour in a positive manner without (more than a few) white guys prevaricating about something or other or labelling black people as ‘sub-human’. Pitiful.
White men (as a collective) are actually top of the heap in this world (if we’re not, remind us who is) yet some are convinced that no one has been more thoroughly shafted than we have.
Price…it’s whenever you decide you want this site to be taken seriously, it’s been years now that you’ve been allowing particular white men to use people of colour as scapegoats on a supposedly anti-feminist site.
To the white men on here who are evolved beyond ‘race’ concerns and who actually speak out despite a risk of being called ‘self-hating?’
Honour goes out to you.

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Charles Martel June 9, 2012 at 06:43

The Caliph
This is the part where i as a Nigerian (Yoruba) will make you look stupid.

Good one! Great movie, Shrek.

I enjoy your comments. I hope you’ll eventually expand the one you wrote some time ago [the downside of Alphadom] into an essay.

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Charles Martel June 9, 2012 at 07:03

Opus
‘Never, never, never will be slaves’ as we sing.

Samuel Pepys’ diary, February 8th, 1661

At the office all the morning. At noon to the Exchange to meet Mr. Warren the timber merchant, but could not meet with him. Here I met with many sea commanders, and among others Captain Cuttle, and Curtis, and Mootham, and I, went to the Fleece Tavern to drink; and there we spent till four o’clock, telling stories of Algiers, and the manner of the life of slaves there! And truly Captn. Mootham and Mr. Dawes (who have been both slaves there) did make me fully acquainted with their condition there: as, how they eat nothing but bread and water. At their redemption they pay so much for the water they drink at the public fountaynes, during their being slaves. How they are beat upon the soles of their feet and bellies at the liberty of their padron. How they are all, at night, called into their master’s Bagnard; and there they lie. How the poorest men do use their slaves best. How some rogues do live well, if they do invent to bring their masters in so much a week by their industry or theft; and then they are put to no other work at all. And theft there is counted no great crime at all. Thence to Mr. Rawlinson’s, having met my old friend Dick Scobell, and there I drank a great deal with him, and so home and to bed betimes, my head aching.

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JeremiahMRA June 9, 2012 at 08:56

Slavery did not cause the civil war. The civil war was a war by Abraham Lincoln against the Constitution. The civil war is what put us on the path from a nation where liberty and masculine values were key to a nation where centralized government control and the anti-male nanny state are the norm.

The Real Lincoln by Thomas DiLorenzo

“Through extensive research and meticulous documentation, DiLorenzo portrays the sixteenth president as a man who devoted his political career to revolutionizing the American form of government from one that was very limited in scope and highly decentralized—as the Founding Fathers intended—to a highly centralized, activist state. Standing in his way, however, was the South, with its independent states, its resistance to the national government, and its reliance on unfettered free trade. To accomplish his goals, Lincoln subverted the Constitution, trampled states’ rights, and launched a devastating Civil War, whose wounds haunt us still. According to this provacative book, 600,000 American soldiers did not die for the honorable cause of ending slavery but for the dubious agenda of sacrificing the independence of the states to the supremacy of the federal government, which has been tightening its vise grip on our republic to this very day.

You will discover a side of Lincoln that you were probably never taught in school—a side that calls into question the very myths that surround him and helps explain the true origins of a bloody, and perhaps, unnecessary war. ”

If it weren’t for Lincoln’s tyranny, perhaps the US wouldn’t be a matriarchy today.

Good review/summary here: http://www.amazon.com/review/RURCCTOVVOSII/ref=cm_cr_pr_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=0761536418&nodeID=&tag=&linkCode=

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JeremiahMRA June 9, 2012 at 09:00

Also it’s not a good idea to try to use the Left’s strategy of yelling “Racism! Slavery! White man keeping the black man down!” Whites and blacks are both enslaved in huge numbers in the western world. And it isn’t just imprisonment but marriage and divorce which enslave men.

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Blissex June 9, 2012 at 10:49

«What my sister actually said was “Children are expensive. Everyone wants the cars, the clothes, the shoes, the designer bags.” And in Italy everyone means everyone.

Women are rational actors. In the West we are paying women NOT to be wives and mothers.»

Women are economically rational actors, but in completely different way from what you think.

Women have nearly always and nearly everywhere born and raised children as pension investments. However currently women can get (low) state pensions plus (less low) private pensions by working, so they have stopped having children as pension investments, and now they have children as expensive hobbies.

A woman’s wealth and power and security depended on the that of the adult males (at first her lovers and husband, then her children) she had domesticated, or raised.

Therefore an enormous drop in child natality rates when women can rely on pensions for old age and are given no subsidy towards having children as hobbies, and the typical 1-child, and late, policy of so many women: if the child-bearing is a hobby, one is enough, and in middle age, like for men having a mistress or a harley.

And it explains why childbearing costs compete with those of other durable consumption like «cars, the clothes, the shoes, the designer bags»: they are no longer investments.

That children have been traditionally seen as pension investments explains almost everything of the matriarchy that has rules most countries so far: that women prefer to have male children to the point of massively aborting females, dowries, the tradition of having a final female child, ferocious pressure on male children to have a career starting with lots of studying, etc. Men have been traditionally seen by women as the wild animals to be domesticated into husbands to put to work to provide the seed funds for the pension investments.

Natality rates have not fallen only in those countries that subsidize childearing, not just old age living.

There is an interesting intra-sex conflict in the current situation in other countries: ultimately it is still the children of women who have them whowork and pay out pensions as all women get old (men die a lot earlier than women on average), but only those women who have children pay for the costs of raising the workers of the future. Which means that women who have no children or less than 2 children are massively freeriding on those who have 2 or more children.

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DCM June 9, 2012 at 11:54

“JeremiahMRA June 9, 2012 at 08:56

Slavery did not cause the civil war. The civil war was a war by Abraham Lincoln against the Constitution. The civil war is what put us on the path from a nation where liberty and masculine values were key to a nation where centralized government control and the anti-male nanny state are the norm.

The Real Lincoln by Thomas DiLorenzo
……….”

Correct.
A Book called “The South Was Right” — I can’t recall the authors’ names except that they were brothers and the last names are the same — details some of the things Lincoln did.
Suspended civil rights in border states even though they sided with the North, punished the free expression of opinions even to arresting reporters, the only US president to order and carry out mass executions (of Sioux to get the support of voters where the wars against them had been fought even though judges rule that as acts of war their depredations were legitimate)….
The evil that man did lives on after him; the good (if any) is interred with his bones.

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PeterTheGreat June 9, 2012 at 14:23

AFoR@
“I have said time and again I have far more in common with a black MAN from 5,000 miles away than I do with a white woman from 5 miles away.”

I get your point. All types of males have certain things in common, simply because we are males.

However, because we share a common genetic background with white women, and obtain further white men through their wombs; there is a genetic commonality here also – only different.

Obviously each race needs its own women to continue its existence. Because so many white women are not suitable for mates, we need to figure some way to educate their feral children to teach them to become true men.

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LBK June 9, 2012 at 18:54

The myth of African matriarchy is perpetuated by feminist-dominated academia. These people like to comb through history cherry-picking factoids that support their ideology while ignoring contrary evidence. If a piece of contrary evidence can’t be swept under the rug, then they will re-interpret it, often going through great mental contortions to do so.

Another favorite myth of the feminists is that of the “Earth Goddess Cult” in stone age Europe. Archaeologists have discovered a number of figurines that are small statues of obviously pregnant women. Perhaps these were used in fertility rituals, but we really can’t know for sure. But based on this one type of evidence, feminists have constructed an elaborate mythology about a supposedly matriarchal society that worshiped an earth-goddess.

Perhaps the best-known proponent of the earth-goddess theory is the archaeologist Marija Gimbutas, who has been soundly criticized by other archaeologists for drawing too many conclusions from too little evidence. But while much of her work is considered unscientific, her theories remain popular with feminists. This should hardly be surprising, because these people are not searching for truth but rather looking for (or manufacturing) evidence to support their ideology.

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Attila June 10, 2012 at 09:24

I live in an area with a high percentage of Negroes – and must say that the level of customer service (especially from black men) is substandard- on average- adding to that is the frequency of dirty looks and some pretty aggressive ape-like body language. I always come away with the feeling that I shouldn’t turn my back on them.

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Attila June 10, 2012 at 09:26

You can “rise above racial concerns” when you don’t have them in your midst every time you step out of your house!

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Eric June 10, 2012 at 13:27

LBK,
Archeologists have since discovered animal totems and motifs that are older than those female figurines. Some think they were intentionally buried by early farming communities to produce crops, the animal totems were put up by hunters to guarantee successful hunts. But feminist academic pour on the shaming language whenever things like that are exposed.

The DNA evidence is even more difficult for the matriarchial theorists to circumvent. DNA researchers have found that all humankind can be traced to a single male who lived about 60000 BC in Africa. It’s provable that patriarchial societies were well-established by 30000BC, so the time-lines have been extremely compressed for a developed matriarchy to have existed at all.

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bob June 10, 2012 at 14:54

It is an error to relate the earlier sins of slavery with the modern Liberal “Great Society” Madness.

I had no part in either. I feel no guilt for either.

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Pops June 10, 2012 at 17:48

I had no part in either. I feel no guilt for either.

But you sure white knighted for feminist Khadija Nassif.

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E June 10, 2012 at 19:43

td9red

As a Black-American woman I see many problems in my community. Poverty, lack of education, lack of an understanding of the importance of education, drug use, racism, being a prime target of suspicion and prosecution for crime, crime, unemployment, hopelessness, the removal of fathers from the family (for any number of reasons), on, on, on….

sigh

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Brosephus June 19, 2012 at 13:19

I’ll put it this way, as a black man I don’t feel the need for white guilt. America has flagellated itself enough over the issues of slavery and discrimination, what is needed now is a continued realization of exactly what happened and a determination to let the past be the past. For goodness sake white slavery existed for a long time but we aren’t still hearing about it are we? In my opinion that is one of the great unexplored evils of our time but I digress. My point is simple, men are men in every place and in every time, when gender roles are blurry it always looks wrong. We see this reflected in the fact that matriarchies have never existed, neither in Africa or in any other place and men have always been the head of the households in all civilizations. Basically men have always led and women have always supported. Thus it seems that men everywhere have something that binds them together, something that transcends race and ethnicity. Matriarchy won’t work in Africa anymore than it will here in America and thus all men have a stake in beating back the excesses of feminism. If this has been said before I apologize but there is a need for a men’s movement. A men’s movement that may allow for race differences but always keeps sight of the main goal, the total repudiation of emasculating feminism.

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? about Feminism, Religion July 10, 2012 at 19:08

Traveller said “I do not believe in a multi race or religion society. Every race and religion in its own place.”

Could you elaborate? Which country do you live in? Do they do it like that there? Which religion is everyone? What do you do with Atheists?

Charles Mantel said “in the West we pay women NOT to be wives and mothers”.

Which country does that and how much money does a woman get from that government to not marry or have kids?

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? about Feminism, Religion July 10, 2012 at 19:20

“Because so many white women are not suitable for mates, we need to figure some way to educate their feral children to teach them to become true men.”

And whom will those little boys mate with when they grow up if you have you have a culture of educated, civilized young men yet still feral girls and women?

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? about Feminism, Religion July 10, 2012 at 19:26

re: matriarchy vs matrilineal and Goddess worship.

South Asian cultures worship goddesses, they always have and they still do, yet they are overwhelmingly patriarchal, even in the few instances they are matrilineal.

Not quite sure why you are equating Goddess worship with matriarchy and God worship with patriarchy. In South Asia where both Gods and Goddesses are worshipped with equal fervor, there is no correalation.

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