Most Shameless Fraud This Year?

by W.F. Price on May 22, 2012

After using worker’s compensation fraud as an example in yesterday’s post, I came across an interesting story about a real case.

Jacquelyn V. Myers, a 55-year-old rural mail carrier, was just convicted of healthcare fraud and lying to get worker’s compensation, and faces up to 15 years behind bars. She’ll likely only receive a fraction of the sentence, but she cheated so blatantly and flamboyantly that one would hope the judge gives her at least a year or so to think about the consequences of ripping the rest of us off.

From the Justice Dept.:

Evidence presented at the two-day jury trial established that, while claiming she was physically unable to fulfill her responsibilities as a rural letter carrier with the Postal Service, Myers competed in more than 80 athletic events in Florida and Georgia. Although she claimed that she could only handle “light duty” in her government job, Myers was competing in 5K races, 10K races, triathlons, and marathons, including the Boston Marathon, which she ran in April 2010.

In May 2009, Myers reported that she had suffered a lower back injury during the annual letter carriers’ food drive. As a result, she was relieved of the letter carrying duties for which she had been hired, and placed on “light duty.” Between June and December of 2009, Myers told her treating physicians and physical therapists that her back injury had not improved, and that she was unable to twist and bend at the waist – activities associated with the delivery of mail. Photographs and videotapes taken during the same period show Myers running barefoot on gravel in a cross-country event, and swimming, cycling, and running in a triathlon. Evidence at trial demonstrated that Myers’ race times actually improved over those recorded prior to her reported date of injury.

Somehow, I think it would be appropriate to play “Chariots of Fire” as they whisk her off to prison.

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Anonymous Reader May 22, 2012 at 14:20

It appears that modern American women regard fraud as just another way to get stuff. If not overtly as this broad did, then via the divorce industry, not to mention false rape accusations.

“Everyone else is doing it” no doubt being the excuse for many women.
Should we regard thm as pathological liars, or are they simply unable to differentiate between lying and not lying?

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AfOR May 22, 2012 at 15:14
Ronin May 22, 2012 at 15:22

@AFOR

You missed a most relevant link, sir. Allow me.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/euro2012/article-2148077/Euro-2012-Topless-Ukrainian-feminists-snatch-trophy.html

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walking in hell May 22, 2012 at 15:47
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Traveller May 22, 2012 at 15:50

This is the normal morality level of any state worker. Worldwide.

It is not if she did her state job that would have not been a fraud.

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Rmaxd May 22, 2012 at 16:20

LOL @all the above links … Ameriskanks … helping screw over the government & manginas & guys not smart enough to dodge taxes …

One bitch at a time …

The MRA should add a new chapter to Revelations, along with a plague of locusts & hail the size of fists, add lazy work dodging Ameri-Skanks & single mother parasites …

A hundred times worse then any plague of locusts … at least locusts reduce the amount of corn syrup in junk-food & fizzy pop ..

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Rmaxd May 22, 2012 at 16:27

Actually Traveller has a point …

Government jobs, STILL pay ridiculous amounts of wages, for ridiculously crap work …

For example … Bus Drivers, who ferry government workers, earn over $100,000 a year, just for driving a freaking bus …

Government Secretaries who do nothing but answer calls, earn around $125,000 to $150,000

The guys … usually women get paid over $200,000 just for filling out forms & sitting at their desks all day …

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Nemo May 22, 2012 at 16:39

If the government shut down, most women’s jobs would go away in a month and most men’s jobs would not.

Human resources, the government itself, the zillions of women who fill out forms and do “quality assurance”, etc. – all would disapper once the govt. stopped forcing businesses to do useless crap (and hire women to do it).

Men do most of the actual work – you know, mental and physical labor – while women follow procedures and “supervise” and “communicate”.

We Get $^!t Done, they create more problems than they solve.

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!!SPARTA!! May 22, 2012 at 17:38

Nemo:
And I’m sure they’ll call the government shutdown
“The latest front in the War on Women”

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Pirran May 22, 2012 at 17:52

Talking of Daily Wail links, here’s our old favorite Liz Jones in a piece of such breathtaking entitlement, misandry, sexism and plain bullying selfishness, she might even have set a new standard for herself. The comments alone are hilarious.

At least there’s one compensation. This “War on Women” has created unintentionally hysterical entertainment for us all.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2146979/Who-cares-men-stuck-glass-cellar–They-change-bulb-theyre-there.html

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3DShooter May 22, 2012 at 18:29

Most women behind bars are there for fraud, theft, embezzlement or drugs. At least in Idaho, which is probably reasonable microcosm of the bigger picture. There are a few there for some pretty heinous crimes, but they are the minority – and when they are there for that they usually have a male cohort or two they’ve suckered in. They learn to use deceit early on in life.

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TiredGuy May 22, 2012 at 18:46

Hahaha, its funny that whenever a politician gets elected on the basis of cutting costs and taxes the feminist public service complains.

Servant “Woe is me, I’m having to do the job of three people now!”

TiredGuy “Then why the heck did we have three people hired to do a job that can clearly be done by one? Care factor: Nil.”

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Rob May 22, 2012 at 20:46

If you check into it, you’ll find that women are always more prone than men to committing crimes of deception. ie. Embezzelment, Fraud etc. The majority of those kinds of crimes are committed by women. Although, they get punished less for it, and there are less women in prison for it, and they receive lighter sentences for it.

We had, a few years back, a woman who claimed she found a severed finger in a bowl of chilli at Tim Hortons. She brought a lawsuit against Tim’s and the whole thing made the news. Turned out, one of the husband’s co-workers had severed part of his finger at work or something… and when his wife found out about it, she hatched her plan.

I remember that although she was the one who actually attempted the fraud, he got a heavier sentence than her for merely supplying her with the finger.

Men are more prone to violence.

Women are more prone to deceit.

Sampson and Delilah.

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3DShooter May 22, 2012 at 21:12

Though I’m not a religious person, I’ve come to find the Garden of Eden story to be interesting. It is an ancient work that is depicted to be a parable of deception by Satan when in reality it is a parable about the deceptive nature of women. After all these years men still haven’t learned . . .

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Eric May 22, 2012 at 22:02

Anonymous Reader:

‘Should we regard them as pathological liars &c.?’

This behavior is the logical consequence of the egocentricity and narcissicism that feminism instills into women. Most of them only judge the morality or immorality of any action based on the criterion of how it will benefit or harm themselves. The consequences to anyone else never even enters into their minds.

Any female raised in a feminised culture should be presumed to be an amoral sociopath until she proves herself otherwise.

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evilwhitemalempire May 22, 2012 at 23:41

3DShooter May 22, 2012 at 21:12

Though I’m not a religious person, I’ve come to find the Garden of Eden story to be interesting. It is an ancient work that is depicted to be a parable of deception by Satan when in reality it is a parable about the deceptive nature of women. After all these years men still haven’t learned . . .

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evilwhitemalempire May 22, 2012 at 23:45

fuck.

i meant to add that that story is the reason creationists are so valuable to the mrm

in fact the old testament is loaded with female shenanigans

creationist religion MANDATES a strict, literal interpretation of the bible

and that is a firewall against liberal infection

that is why i support creationists even though i’m an evolutionist and an atheist myself

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Charles Martel May 22, 2012 at 23:59

evilwhitemalempire
Though I’m not a religious person, I’ve come to find the Garden of Eden story to be interesting. It is an ancient work that is depicted to be a parable of deception by Satan when in reality it is a parable about the deceptive nature of women.

Yes. I’m not religious but I find the following few verses of Genesis so powerful that I transcribed them and carry them around.

14 Then the LORD God said to the snake:
Because you have done this,
cursed are you
among all the animals, tame or wild;
On your belly you shall crawl,
and dust you shall eat
all the days of your life.
15 I will put enmity between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and hers;
They will strike at your head,
while you strike at their heel.
16 To the woman he said:
I will intensify your toil in childbearing;
in pain – you shall bring forth children.
Yet your urge shall be for your husband,
and he shall rule over you.

17 To the man he said: Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree about which I commanded you, You shall not eat from it,
Cursed is the ground – because of you!
In toil you shall eat its yield
all the days of your life.
18 Thorns and thistles it shall bear for you,
and you shall eat the grass of the field.
19 By the sweat of your brow
you shall eat bread,
Until you return to the ground,
from which you were taken;

For you are dust,
and to dust you shall return.

Woman’s burden, the pain of childbirth (now abolished by the hands of men) and to be ruled by her husband (now also abolished by the hands of men).

Man’s burden, to toil in the fields (now abolished by the hands of men).

So, are we not gods, as we have abolished the burdens imposed on us by God himself?

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migu May 23, 2012 at 00:48

No we aren’t gods. That was the mistake made in Genesis. We can’t know everything. Only God can. And don’t forget Jacobs son’s also destroyed an entire nation because Dina was raped.

Believing we can know it all leads to our fall. If you’re atheist or what have you, consider Genesis as a twofold allegory. Hubris will make you suffer, don’t put faith in your wife.

There is much more to it, and plenty of theological forums and churches where you can explore it.

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migu May 23, 2012 at 00:53

If you speak German fluently the older translations of the Bible flow better and are clearer.

Either original king James or douay-rheims.

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evilwhitemalempire May 23, 2012 at 01:49

Man’s burden, to toil in the fields (now abolished by the hands of men).
**************

as technology steadily makes shoulders increasingly redundant they become regarded by society as less and less an asset (provider/ protector) and more and more a liability (i.e. the violent stuff)

this, i suspect, may be at the core of all things anti-male

the perceived cost/benefit ratio of shoulders steadily increases

BUT technology has done little or nothing in the area of making wombs redundant

and so the perceived cost/benefit ratio has changed little here

is it any wonder the balance of power is as it is today?

the really sad part is that by the time wombs do become redundant the entire human race will likely be as well

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Opus May 23, 2012 at 02:30

Genesis Chapter 3 (Revised White-Knight Version)

And lo, it came to pass; the Lord God did come into the garden and found that Eve had been eating of an apple from the tree that he had forbidden her to touch. And he asked the woman ‘Why have you been eating of the fruit of the tree which I expressly mandated against?’ and the woman replied, ‘It was Satan made me do it’ and the Lord God said, ‘Clearly Satan has been grooming you. This must therefore be the fault of your husband for failing to protect you from the evil one’. Here endeth the first lesson. [all kneel]

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Uncle Elmer May 23, 2012 at 06:32

Jeff Landers is back! In a refreshing break from the usual daily Forbeswoman essays about evil male office sex harassers and evil male glass ceiling installers, he’s got a great new essay describing how men are turning the table on women and using accusations of “abuse” in an ugly, cynical attempt to take advantage of divorce proceedings :

How Some Men Are Upending Domestic Violence Laws to Scam an Advantage in Divorce

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jefflanders/2012/05/22/how-some-men-are-upending-domestic-violence-laws-to-scam-an-advantage-in-divorce

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J May 23, 2012 at 06:37

Man, it is just another round for women. Itis good to search and bring to light their articles, because the bigger media houses will never cover stuff like this. Women need to be perceived for what they ARE NOT, Perfect Little Innoccent Princesses! If men start to see they are all the oppossite, their wombs won’t mean jack!

Men will hoard women to themselves, and compete openly in law, military, business, government, technology more then we are already kicking their backsides. The FACT of the matter is women still need us! They use technology as an excuse. When the greater percentage of men walk away from women and marriage, to only use them in a relationship as 60% of women are doing to men now, watch the law do gymnastics to get us back in the fold.

You can have your technology, but you still need strong backs to make, operate, and dream it! Women will still need months of down time in order to raise young. The last four years, government has been learning that lesson well.

They just don’t know what to do with us yet, and by us I mean the Men’s Rights Movement. Keep pushing, just be weary, if they have not figured out how to manipulate s yet, they will before they allow legislation in our favor!

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Ted May 23, 2012 at 07:28

“Jeff Landers is back! ”

Not as good as his essay on hiding assets, IMO. Some good ideas there.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jefflanders/2012/03/20/21-signs-that-your-husband-may-be-hiding-marital-assets-during-your-divorce/

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Anonymous May 23, 2012 at 07:49

“Though I’m not a religious person, I’ve come to find the Garden of Eden story to be interesting.”

I’m the same with religion. The Bible does offer many valuable lessons and advice on life through stories when I have taken it in a symbolic way. I just remove the outer layers of the stories and look for the meaning or lessons underneath.

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GS Jockey May 23, 2012 at 07:57

@ Rmaxd: “Government Secretaries who do nothing but answer calls, earn around $125,000 to $150,000.”

Really? That’s a very interesting story. Now, how about some facts rather than your hyperbole: I am an active duty USAF colonel currently stationed in CONUS. My secretary is a grade GS-7, and she makes $41K per year. Feel free to look it up instead of making stuff up and then believing it.

I’d encourage you to make your points without the over-the-top, breathless commentary. Your current approach undermines your own credibility and that of the MRM in general.

GS Jockey

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Anon May 23, 2012 at 08:06

From Uncle E’s link above:

“The set-up: A couple has a fight. Either the wife calls 9-1-1 in a desperate plea for police intervention, or the husband makes the call first in a preemptive attack. When the police arrive, the woman is visibly upset. The man, on the other hand, is extremely calm as he switches off his anger. The husband tells the police that his wife is delusional, crazy, and violent. Depending on how convincing the man’s story is to the police officer, and the state’s law on domestic violence, either both people are arrested or the woman is arrested.”

911 calls now figure prominently in so-called abuse cases. I was a juror in an abuse trial in which the woman accused her live-in partner of physical abuse (no injuries, no photos – but it was physical abuse!).

As it turned out, this was the second time around for these two – they had reconciled after the first trial. The 911 tapes were hilarious, as soon as one called, the other called (having your own cell phone means no waiting to use the phone!) and sometimes you could hear the other caller in the background. Both the man and the woman showed increased proficiency in making sure that the right “evidence” was presented on the 911 tapes.

What a waste of civic resources…

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Georice81 May 23, 2012 at 08:09

You guys may want to read about the Genesis story from another side:

http://www.solvinglight.com/features/athenaandeve01.htm

While Christianity views Eve’s rebellion as a disaster for humanity, the ancient Greeks viewed it as enlightnment. That is not that much if at all different from today’s modern view of feminism. Thus the ancient Greeks proclaimed Adam and Eve as god and goddess and gave them new names: Zeus (meaning God) and Heras. Heras eventually died and was reborn as Athena and lives forever thereby rejecting God’s claim that they would eventually die for their sin of eating the forbidden fruit.

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Mikediver May 23, 2012 at 08:12

Does anyone in their right mind think men are abusing VAWA to get benefits in divorce more than women are? Does any sane person believe that if the husband and the wife call 911 accusing the other of abuse that the woman will ever be arrested?

By in their right mind or sane I of course exclude all women, as they are all 100% insane (it is only a question of how insane).

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keyster May 23, 2012 at 08:32

’d encourage you to make your points without the over-the-top, breathless commentary. Your current approach undermines your own credibility and that of the MRM in general.

I think he’s getting confused with secretaries and the plethora of Secretaries, Assistant Secretaries, Under Secretaries, Assistant Under Secretaries, etc, that Obama has placed in position from his campaign support base since 2009. They typically make between $100K to $150K per year.

The average government clerk makes about $40K per year, gets full health benefits, a nice pension and cannot be fired without great difficulty.

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Charles Martel May 23, 2012 at 08:44

migu
No we aren’t gods. That was the mistake made in Genesis. We can’t know everything. Only God can.

It was a rhetorical question intended to illustrate the hubris of Western civilization.

I’m an atheist so can’t get too worked up about the theology here, but Genesis describes the natural order of human affairs. Un-natural human social experiments are short-lived.

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Georice81 May 23, 2012 at 08:50

Mikediver wrote:
“Does anyone in their right mind think men are abusing VAWA to get benefits in divorce more than women are? Does any sane person believe that if the husband and the wife call 911 accusing the other of abuse that the woman will ever be arrested? ”

About 6 years ago I had a girlfriend at the time whom I started to wonder about and was beginning to get away from. We had an argument and I decided to spend time alone on a Friday night. She came to my door and raised hell. Eventually I let her in the house (my mistake) and after a few minutes I asked her to leave. She wouldn’t and so I called 911 after warning her that I would call the cops.

When the cops came instead of asking her to leave and escorting her out they proceeded to try to establish her domicility in my house. They asked her if she had any possessions and such in the house and she answered no. I could see the dissapointment in their faces and they then quietly told her that she had to leave. She argued with them and only after a few minutes did she leave (only to return 1/2 later).

Had she lied and said that she did come to my house often and sort of lived there I am sure that they cops would’ve brought me down and handcuffed me and taken me to jail.

Had it been the other way around where I was in her house and she had called the cops, no matter if I lived there or not, they would’ve brought me down and handcuffed me and taken me to jail.

This was a big eye opener for me. It was ME, in my own house, who the cops wanted to bring down and arrest. I learned that when dealing with women NEVER NEVER call the police even if you have a butcher knife sticking out from your back. It is safer to handle things on your own and if need be leave the scene immediately.

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Charles Martel May 23, 2012 at 08:53

Opus
Genesis Chapter 3 (Revised White-Knight Version)

I appreciate the brilliance of your rewrite even if no-one else does! Big thumbs up.

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Charles Martel May 23, 2012 at 09:03

evilwhitemaleempire
as technology steadily makes shoulders increasingly redundant they become regarded by society as less and less an asset (provider/ protector) and more and more a liability (i.e. the violent stuff)

A profound observation. Technology brings labor specialization and moves male labor out of sight of women’s eyes. Women are still receiving the benefit of male labor but they can not see it and so, to them, it no longer exists. The 19th century family farm was the ideal environment for a woman to see the benefits of marriage as her husband’s strength and physical endurance were demonstrated daily. Now that same male labor is performed remotely and usually by machines designed by more invisible men.

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Venom Froggy May 23, 2012 at 09:16

She will only get a slap on the wrist, compared to a man convicted of the same crime would receive.

Speaking of lighter sentences, here’s another wonderful example.

Ever heard of Craig Titus?

He was a famous male bodybuilder who killed his personal assistant, Melissa James, with the help of his wife, Kelly Ryan (also a famous bodybuilder).

They got caught, they pled guilty. Jailed. Divorced.

Guess who got the book thrown at them?

Now take a wild guess as to who will be out in less than three years on parole, if they’re not out already?

Yeah.

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Tom936 May 23, 2012 at 09:56

Jeff Landers is back!

I followed the link. Jeff Landers is clearly a low form of pond-scum.

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evilwhitemalempire May 23, 2012 at 10:38

Now that same male labor is performed remotely and usually by machines designed by more invisible men.
*************

not just invisible but fewer of them

consider how many people a single farmer can support these days

but your right that technology ‘abstracts’ male labor as well as replacing much of it

many of us are all too familiar with the way females don’t think that their husband works just because they don’t SEE him do it on a regular basis

and while technology has, historically, created more jobs then it destroys this trend can’t continue indefinitely

as tech grows (slowly but steadily) smarter and more co-ordinated eventually the entire human brain and nervous system will become redundant

as this happens tech’s ability to destroy jobs will begin to exceed it’s ability to create them

it may take a thousand years or more but it’s bound to happen so long as tech growth continues

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evilwhitemalempire May 23, 2012 at 10:51

on that note one can see in the welfare state a view that sees that because so much more of wealth is machine driven rather than back driven these days that this is an excuse not to work

i remember a lefty blogger over at mantits that had ended her asinine comment with ‘hard earned’ money in quotations

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Huck Finn May 23, 2012 at 12:47

Jennifer, grow up. Some men without women’s involvement choose with full awareness to do wrong. Some men are persuaded or manipulated into doing wrong. In the story, Adam does not so much blame Eve as he honestly replies to God with the simple fact that Eve persuaded him to try the fruit. Being female, you know how men are very gullible to women’s games.

The serpent might be a source of evil. Yet Eve and then Adam chose to embrace their evil act. They were somewhat like the sheeple obeying and trusting the serpent politicians in Washington DC. BTW, the serpent did not first approach Adam to try the fruit. The serpent got to Adam using Eve. Women are usually the supporters of immoral ideologies and movements more than men: politically women were the more loyal sex to the fascists and communists. I had a good laugh at how you used the word ‘frantically’ in describing Adam’s defense of himself.

Women use their emotions in reaching conclusions or making decisions and to taking actions far more than men who are more rational and factual based. The serpent is in reality symbolizes the lower nature or dark side of human cravings for pleasure, greed, and power. A few men have that unchecked desire to an extreme. Most women are less disciplined than men and seem to have far more desires than the average man and women demand it because their feelings tell them they deserve it.

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migu May 23, 2012 at 14:45

No again Jennifer, neither party took responsibility.

Charles Martel,

The question wasn’t rhetorical. The answer to it is not in question. No Human is God or a God. That is fact.

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migu May 23, 2012 at 14:51

Brigadon,

Shed the institution, or you will only end up back in it. You can’t change the past. You can repeat it though. But hey at least this time you will have actually committed the crime…..nevermind

Go away mikeeusa.

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Ode May 23, 2012 at 15:01

evilwhitemalempire

creationist religion MANDATES a strict, literal interpretation of the bible
and that is a firewall against liberal infection
that is why i support creationists even though i’m an evolutionist and an atheist myself

A religious fundamentalist believes in faith in God.
A Liberal believes in faith in big government.

A religious fundamentalist believes in a heaven in the afterlife so long as a set of principles is followed.
A Liberal believes a heaven on earth can be created so long as a set of principles is followed.

A fundamentalist is convinced nonbelievers will be damned. There can be no alternative. Only their system can promise a heaven.
A Liberal is convinced nonbelievers will be damned. There can be no alternative. Only their system can promise a heaven.

IMHO the most fanatical “religious fundamentalists” I have ever met were Liberals.

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Charles Martel May 23, 2012 at 18:11

migu
The question wasn’t rhetorical. The answer to it is not in question. No Human is God or a God. That is fact.

You have to believe there’s a God for that to make sense. We would look like gods to most of our human ancestors with our aircraft, firearms, electrical power generation and distribution, computers, movies, medical imaging, antibiotics, etc., etc., etc.

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freebird May 23, 2012 at 18:57

Women will not only commit fraud with no remorse,they will actively petition politically to stop men from doing constructive/enjoyable acts.
This is why they are hell in the homeowners associations.
Always finding what men enjoy and women do not,then making rules against it.

Yeah don’t call the cops, it’s always the male.
The politicians don’t care,they have liar money.

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Eric May 23, 2012 at 20:02

Jennifer,
If I read the story correctly, God punished the man, woman, and serpent together for what they did. I presume that to mean that He held them all equally guilty.

I know that a lot of Game proponents try to spin the story to prove some ‘ancient wisdom’ that bolsters their theories about the nature of men and women.

It appears though that the story is a metaphor. The serpent was trying to usurp the perogatives of mankind (lower them to the level of beasts) and Adam and Eve were trying to usurp the perogatives of the divine (trying to elevate themselves to level of gods). Eve did the first and Adam did the second. The moral of the story is that going either way is to abandon human nature and be cast out of the Garden (civilization) into darkness (chaos).

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Brigadon May 23, 2012 at 22:33

@Migu- Did that comment wind up in the wrong thread?

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evilwhitemalempire May 24, 2012 at 01:47

IMHO the most fanatical “religious fundamentalists” I have ever met were Liberals.
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ah, but since when have creationist fundamentalists said that men were all rapists just for being men?

you see, we need fanatacism too!

but we need a fanatacism that’s on OUR side to counter the one that is against us

we need a belief system that stabs at our enemies with every bit as much fervor as theirs does us

i would very much like to see revived the old testament’s ways of viewing females

not just because it’s a more accurate way of seeing females but for it’s emotional value

logic hasn’t helped much

emotion got us in this mess, it’ll have to get us out

and consider the advantages the right has over the left in this regard:

afterlife
right: yes
left: no

appeals to human vanity
right: yes
left: no

all liberal ideology can do is promise goodies in this life
it does absolutely nothing about the grim reaper (psychologically that is)

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evilwhitemalempire May 24, 2012 at 01:52

oh, and pay no attention to that jennifer regarding the genesis story

feminists make shit come out the way they want to

we can too!

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freebird May 24, 2012 at 06:31

Georice81 said:
“When the cops came instead of asking her to leave and escorting her out they proceeded to try to establish her domicility in my house”

That is exactly what happened to me sir, except by my own lawyer in a court of law complicit w/ the prosecutor and judge whislt up on a false DV charge and false criminal contempt of court charge.

Yeah, no I do have CONTEMPT for the courts,judges,and yea-the cops too.Sorry boys in blue,you’re feeding on your own and expect a pat on the back?

Someday your gonna need help and it will not be forthcoming.

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Attila May 24, 2012 at 08:39

Adam was a sucker – he took Eve’s word-then again – he could have ended up with Lilith.

“R. Hanina said: One may not sleep in a house alone [in a lonely house], and whoever sleeps in a house alone is seized by Lilith.” (Babylonian Talmud on Tractate Shabbath 151b)

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Tom Smith May 25, 2012 at 09:14

Mr. Price: The real issue at work is equality in sentencing. Men and women should be sentenced the same, particularly if the crime committed is the same.

A secondary issue is how society should treat fraud crimes. At present, most of the penalties are “spread around” by taking the money the criminal has left and “spreading it around” to the victims. (The Madoff case is a great example.)

This approach contrasts with crimes against society- like illegal drug sales- where the penalty of forfeiture of the criminal’s money is oftentimes more severe than the actually fine or imprisonment for the drug sale itself.

In my mind, fraud crimes are both crimes against society as well as crimes against the actual victims. Therefore, such crimes should be more severely punished, regardless of the record of the offender.

In this case, the defendant not only committed fraud, she also directly benefitted from the fraud. In addition to incarceration (as a deterrent), should not forfeiture of all of her ill-gotten gains (in this case the benefit of the paid time off) be forfeit as well?

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Gilgamesh May 28, 2012 at 10:57

They won’t prosecute Wanetta Gibson, but when a woman rips off the government….

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Cindy May 29, 2012 at 17:10

“that is why i support creationists even though i’m an evolutionist and an atheist myself”

That’s not intellectually dishonest or anything. The MRM…such integrity!

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W.F. Price May 29, 2012 at 18:03

That’s not intellectually dishonest or anything. The MRM…such integrity!

-Cindy

Hi Cindy. Men tend to be a lot more open and honest about their tactics – even when they are copping to being deceitful – whereas women will never admit to doing the same sort of thing all the time.

Feminists and their supporters lie shamelessly, but they’ll never admit to being dishonest in the least, because, to be quite frank, they are better liars than men. If men were really so dishonest, you’d think they’d be a lot better at deception, wouldn’t you?

However, many of us have figured this out. I am pretty liberal about allowing comments, because I’ve always thought lying contests are better left to women and the pussies who hide behind their skirts.

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