John Scalzi Offers Creative Interpretation of White Male Privilege

by W.F. Price on May 21, 2012

John Scalzi, who once excoriated The Spearhead for a sci-fi piece written by anti-feminist tech, has taken the holy burden of telling white guys how privileged they are upon himself. Writing for Kotaku, Scalzi compares white male privilege to having the easy setting turned on when playing a video game:

Dudes. Imagine life here in the US – or indeed, pretty much anywhere in the Western world – is a massive role playing game, like World of Warcraft except appallingly mundane, where most quests involve the acquisition of money, cell phones and donuts, although not always at the same time. Let’s call it The Real World. You have installed The Real World on your computer and are about to start playing, but first you go to the settings tab to bind your keys, fiddle with your defaults, and choose the difficulty setting for the game. Got it?

Okay: In the role playing game known as The Real World, “Straight White Male” is the lowest difficulty setting there is.

One might wonder why a gaming site would publish a piece virtually guaranteed to alienate its key demographic, but such are the times we live in that political correctness demands tribute from all.

Before Scalzi came up with this analogy, the old explanation was that white folks – men in particular – have “invisible backpacks” that contain privileges. That one didn’t work all that well, because, well… it just doesn’t sound all that plausible. So the video game comparison is a little better, as it uses an activity that is very popular with young white males to make the point rather than relying on magical backpacks.

A lot of us might ask why some white people are such firm supporters of the idea of white male privilege. Are they masochistic? Do they hate themselves and their race? Or are they simply morally so far above the rest of us that they are willing to sacrifice themselves and their children for the benefit of other peoples?

Although it’s difficult for most to see (but not invisible), it is none of the above. They are as self-interested as anyone, and they’ve got every reason to support the notion of white male privilege. It’s really a numbers game, and it’s about maintaining their increasingly implausible lifestyle.

To see where they’re coming from, first you have to understand that straight white male privilege both does and doesn’t exist. White privilege can only exist in a multiracial setting. It cannot meaningfully exist in, say, North Dakota, because there are virtually no minorities. Without minorities, whites have no relative privilege. White privilege definitely does not exist in Latvia, and it exists only to a lower degree in places like Seattle and Portland, where whites still have a fairly large majority. However, in places like Los Angeles, white male privilege is very real, and is exemplified by people like George Clooney. If it didn’t exist, I suspect there would no longer be whites there in meaningful numbers; they would flee.

So why is it that those who do benefit from white male privilege are the types most likely to make an issue out of it? Shouldn’t they be keeping their mouths shut? Well, this is how they’re tricky. By denouncing all white males as privileged, they are universalizing guilt. Imagine someone is caught cheating on worker’s compensation, and rather than take the blame and pay for it himself, he says “this is a systemic problem; everyone does it, and therefore everyone must pay for it.” He can then say that rather than have to pay it back himself, everyone should chip in and lighten his burden. This is exactly what white liberals are doing, because having privilege does have high social costs.

First, you have to pay off angry minority political factions who want a cut as well. Then, you have to pay the mainly-white unions who keep things running, i.e. teachers, policemen, prison guards, firemen, etc. Finally, you have to over-regulate business and real-estate to preserve your pristine white neighborhoods. It’s really, really expensive, and requires a heavy tax burden. Urban California is the perfect example of this system.

So, as in California, white liberals living in minority white or only half-white cities in the US are increasingly turning to everyone else to keep them afloat. And, of course, they are going after the group which, due to its numbers and relatively low expenses, has the means to foot the bill — white males. Does the Alaskan fisherman or West Virginia coal miner really have meaningful white privilege? Of course not, but he does have a fairly respectable paycheck that can be taxed even more. And what better way to justify taking more of his money than by arguing that he owes it to liberals’ urban minority neighbors because life is easier for him? If white liberals can only spread the guilt a little more, they’ll get some breathing room, and they won’t have to foot the bill for their lifestyles alone.

However, the Alaskan fisherman and West Virginia coal miner are not so stupid, and they are every bit as self-interested as the white physician in, say, the Bronx, who depends heavily on federal tax money to keep himself in business. They will not buy this notion of privilege, so it is really just political grandstanding. But it does get a little more vicious than that. There is one group that is largely powerless against these kinds of ideological assaults: children. And children are exactly who tend to get hit by the compromise policies. Unfortunately, they are usually children who do not have any privilege, because their parents can’t afford to insulate them or simply haven’t had enough foresight to look out for their future interests.

So, in the future, people like John Scalzi can justify screwing disadvantaged white boys out of a fair shot by saying he’s fighting white privilege. It won’t affect his kids, because he knows the system, and he can cultivate friends in high places — friends with white privilege. And anyway, keeping poor and working class white boys out of the running is a feature, not a bug. This means the privileged white guy has all the less competition to worry about when trying to set his kids up. As for the poor white boys, well, as callous people love to say, you’ve got to break a few eggs to make an omelette…

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Thomas Tell-Truth May 21, 2012 at 13:02

I would pay serious cash to watch this useless twat try and tell someone like Jesco White how priveleged he is as compared to say….Oprah.

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Uncle Elmer May 21, 2012 at 13:07

Cracker, please.

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Jim May 21, 2012 at 13:20

John forgot to mention that in the U.S. we have the highest incarceration rates in the entire world and about 93% of the people in our prisons are male and the majority of those are white males.

And the sex offender registry as well.

Also white males are far and away by both numbers and percentages the greatest numbers of suicide victims.

On virtually any tv news station national or especially local they will go out of their way to vilify any white male that does even the most minor thing wrong. And that the same time will somewhere between rarely and never report a story when a white male is the victim of a crime….even if the crime is a horrific murder.

The u.s. media is so hateful to white males I really don’t know how any of them can even stand to watch tv or read the newspapers anymore….I know I got sick of it a long time ago.

I could post a lot more on this but I have to go.

I’m sure the other great posters on here will wipe their ass with this idiot’s BS.

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Quartermain May 21, 2012 at 13:28

Liberalism has suffered serious brain drain since they have pushed political correctness, white privilige, male privilige, etc.

John Scalzi is one of many poster children of liberal idiocy.

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Beltain May 21, 2012 at 13:30

Like the ultra-liberal feminist entertainers another side of the self interested White males are current politicians and bureaucrats. By pushing more minority hires and money paid into the bottomless pit of minority uplifting they drastically cut the competition pool for their own cushy jobs. Their aim is to keep the pool right below them as far below them as possible.

And court the femi-nazi vote as well.

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AfOR May 21, 2012 at 13:41

some guys will do anything to get some cunt, even if it doesn’t work… lol

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Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM) May 21, 2012 at 13:42

Speaking of Kokatu, observe how the feminist fanboys savaged a pro-Great-Books-for-Men video game:

“The would-be game would have players to killing Communist vampires and quoting Scripture, Homer or the Constitution to save the world from serfdom. The game’s enemies get listed as a hybrid of Communist, the Matrix, Sauron and Scottish nobles.”

http://kotaku.com/5896004/player-encounters-hooker-this-might-be-the-most-epic-video-game-patent-application-ever/gallery/1

The game actually lets one fight for the Constitution, and save the lives of all those who are to be aborted/murdered.

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Ollie May 21, 2012 at 13:44

136K views and over 2,000 comments on that article, most of them telling Scalzi to go shove it. Encouraging, considering that the Gawker family of sites skews liberal, although Kotaku is a bit more apolitical than the the others.

Nevertheless, I now think guilt fatigue is slowly beginning to affect the center left. I’ve always wondered how much self-flagellation the masses could take, hoping to God that somewhere they would eventually snap and start questioning the incessant stream of propaganda poured down upon them 24-7. The comments on Scalzi’s article seem to show that the “oh-so-privileged” commenter base at Kotaku are sick of being force-fed cattle dung and told it’s Fillet Mignon. They are revolting against the propaganda.

Here’s to hoping the revolt spreads…like wildfire.

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Opus May 21, 2012 at 13:57

That should of course, be White, Male, Heterosexual, Privilege.

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Anon May 21, 2012 at 13:57

When confronted by this topic, I just try to say what I know.

One good friend of mine is a physician at a big university medical school. For two years, he evaluated student applications, then rated them on a point system. If the applicant was female, they got an extra point. If minority, extra point. If handicapped, extra point. I asked why not just give a negative one point to white males, you know, because it would simplify things. He laughed. His wife, a female physician, did not.

I consulted at a large company. One year, it became common knowledge that there would be twenty positions opening up. Exciting news! Then, a friend of mine with much better connections than me showed me a copy of a memo circulated to senior management. It stated in no uncertain terms that their bonus compensation would depend entirely on whether or not they had improved the company’s gender and racial balance. And guess what? The company hired 19 women and one Indian guy.

Starting to get the picture?

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Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM) May 21, 2012 at 14:02

John Scalzi is part of the Feminist-Fanboy-Fiatocracy. A supposed “writer,” never does he quote nor reference a Great Book nor Classic, as he is not Mn enough to read the Greats. Everything the useful idiot says or does is designed to further the decline of the West in service of the Fiatocracy, while the few, at the top, profit immensely in the massive transfer and destruction of wealth brought about by the Fiatocray’s Industrial-Entitlement Complex.

Imagine a videogame which let one save the girl just as Tucker Max was about to butthext her and tape it secretly. Never would Scalzi/Kokatu approve of such a game, as the fiatocracy’s lifeblood is the desouling of women and future “wives” (vehicles of wealth transfer).

But someday we will realize the videogames which allow one to Man Up and fight for the US Constitution, which the Fiatocracy slams through Kokatu:

http://kotaku.com/5896004/player-encounters-hooker-this-might-be-the-most-epic-video-game-patent-application-ever/gallery/1

Here’s a description of the Noble Game which Kokatu slams as the Fiatocracy must dumb down and debauch all of entirety as it debauches the currency, denying us the Exalted Homeric Culture of Our Fathers:

System and method for creating exalted video games and virtual realities wherein ideas have consequences:

“A video game method and system for creating games where ideas have consequences, incorporating branching paths that correspond to a player’s choices, wherein paths correspond to decisions founded upon ideals, resulting in exalted games with deeper soul and story, enhanced characters and meanings, and exalted gameplay. The classical hero’s journey may be rendered, as the journey hinges on choices pivoting on classical ideals. Ideas that are rendered in word and deed will have consequences in the gameworld. Historical events such as The American Revolution may be brought to life, as players listen to famous speeches and choose sides. As great works of literature and dramatic art center around characters rendering ideals real, both internally and externally, in word and deed, in love and war, the present invention will afford video games that exalt the classical soul, as well as the great books, classics, and epic films—past, present, and future.”

1. A method for creating video games and virtual realities wherein ideas have consequences.

2. The method in claim 1 where said ideas are rooted in classical, epic precepts such as those found in the Great Books and Classics, and exalted at the pinnacles of Western culture and history.

3. The method in claim 1 where said ideas are manifested in the words the player or non-player characters, write, speak, read, disseminate, congregate about, fight for, and/or associate with.

4. The method in claim 1 where said ideas are manifested in the actions the player, non-player characters, and/or monsters act out.

5. The method in claim 1 where said ideas spread like viruses, by being spoken, written, or disseminated in some other manner, transforming characters who come in contact with said ideas into vampires, zombies, or other forms of monsters.

6. The method in claim 1 where said ideas spread like viruses, by being spoken, written, or disseminated in some other manner, transforming characters who come in contact with said ideas into vampires, zombies, or other forms of monsters, and where said vampires, zombies, and monsters may be saved or converted back to normal by coming in contact with ideas that oppose the ideas that made them vampires, zombies, and other forms of monsters.

7. The method in claim 1 where said ideas must be fought for via words and dialogue, before they have exalted consequences.

8. The method in claim 1 where said ideas must be fought for via deeds and actions, before they have exalted consequences.

9. The method in claim 1 where the player can fight for said ideas in word and deed, and witness the exalted consequences of those ideals, including liberty, freedom, and justice, when they succeed, and the dire consequences of tyranny, domination, and intimidation, when they fail to render exalted ideas, as ideas have consequences.

10. The method in claim 1 where the character can fight for said ideas such as marriage, the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and right to life in word and deed, and witness the exalted consequences of those ideals, including a stable and enduring society should they succeed, and a declining, bankrupt civilization, should they fail.

11. The method in claim 1 where the character can battle for said ideas that are based upon classical moral and economic principles of famous philosophers, prophets, poets, statesmen, and economists including Plato, Moses, Jesus, Gandhi Sun Tzu, Buda, Jefferson, Aristotle, F. A. Hayek, Martin Luther King Jr., Homer, Ludwig Von Mises, Adam Smith, and others, and witness the consequences of both their success and failure of their battle, as the consequences are rendered in the game’s physical world.

12. The method in claim 1 where the character can battle for said ideas via both word and deed, using a combination of words and action, witnessing the consequences of their balance between word and deed, between reasoning and partaking in violence, thusly bringing to life epic classical works of film and literature wherein the hero must balance word and deed.

13. The method in claim 1 where fighting for said ideas in word and/or deed will have consequences regarding the operation of a weapon, which will operate at its full potential for the players and characters who are the most successful in serving ideals and ideas, and rendering them in word and deed.

14. The method in claim 1 wherein said ideas may be based upon Constitutional ideals and ideas underlying the American Founding, including the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, sound currency, the right to bear arms, the freedom of speech, the right of the artist, author, and inventor to own their creations and inventions; and wherein the player could fight for sound money in word and deed and witness the consequences of their successes and failures, including liberty, wealth creation, capitalism, freedom, private property, peace, and prosperity or rapid inflation, deflation, theft via the inflation tax, massive debt, empire, long lines, wealth transfer to the rich, depressions, corruption, and war.

15. The method in claim 1 where the said ideas will be supported or opposed by in-game characters, and the player will have to choose how to interact with the said in-game characters, based on their ideas, including but not limited to whether or not to befriend them, agree with them, disagree with them, ignore them, recruit them, shoot them, save them, judge them, or forgive them.

16. The method in claim 1 where the said ideas are based upon the pivotal plot points of the great books and classics.

17. The method in claim 1 where said ideas spread like viruses, by being spoken, written, or disseminated in some other manner, transforming characters who come in contact with said ideas into vampires, zombies, or other forms of monsters; and when bad ideas have infected too many in-game characters, the consequences are dire, including the loss of life, liberty, happiness, freedom, and security.

18. The method in claim 1 wherein said ideas may be related to economics and monetary policy, and wherein the player could fight for sound money in words echoing the classical economists and deed and witness the consequences of their successes and failures, including liberty, freedom, peace and prosperity or rapid inflation, deflation, theft via the inflation tax, massive debt, empire, long lines, depressions, corruption, and war.

19. The method in claim 1 wherein moral ideas have moral consequences in the evolution of the gameworld.

20. The method in claim 1 where said ideas in the video game world are founded upon the natural ideas and ideals occurring at the plot points in great works of literature and film where a character must choose whether to serve an ideal or not serve an ideal, thusly rendering or not rendering ideals real by their actions, and influencing the greater outcome and state of the game world, as ideas have consequences.

21. The method in claim 1 where said ideas in the video game world are used to exalt the classic hero’s journey, and where a player’s success and progress at every stage or step or plot point of said hero’s journey is defined by said player’s service or disservice to said ideas and ideals, and where by said player’s serving said ideas and classical ideals, said hero’s journey advances towards ultimate victory and triumph, while by said character’s failing to serve said ideas and classical ideals, progress in said hero’s journey is retarded or reversed.

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Turbo the Drycleaner May 21, 2012 at 14:08

I would love to hear him explain “Julia”. If white men have their lives on easy mode, and women and minorites have life so tough, why are politicians jumping to provide them cradle-to-grave pampering programs?

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maxsnafu May 21, 2012 at 14:14

Liberals maintaining White privilege also has a strong element of this: http://takimag.com/article/diagnosing_passover_syndrome_among_white_liberals/print#axzz1vSCtAtl7

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keyster May 21, 2012 at 14:15

In other news:
http://therightnewz.com/?p=352
If you’re up for a good laugh…
Don’t miss the video at the bottom.

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"The One" May 21, 2012 at 14:17

Where does this wussy think the power of Caucasian people came from? A gift from some government bureaucracy? It’s not called privilege unless someone else grants access to you. It’s called power.

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American May 21, 2012 at 14:17

The educated white gender-Raunch community who now dominate American universities and American media constructions, are a little easier on the white matriarchal underclass, than they are on the black and latino underclass.
Does this mean that the white matriarchal underclass of un-educated laborers are oppressing the black and latino matriarchies??? or does it mean that “White Gender-raunch patriarchy” are over lording, manufacturing, and exploiting the broken, violent, un-educated matriarchal underclass of all colors??

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walking in hell May 21, 2012 at 14:21

“So, in the future, people like John Scalzi can justify screwing disadvantaged white boys out of a fair shot by saying he’s fighting white privilege.”

Yes, the drumbeat of “white male privilege” is a very dangerous sign. This type of propaganda is a preemptive strike against any sympathy the general public might hold out to the “Straight White Male (SWM)”. Scalzi’s characteristic of SWM as ”the lowest difficulty setting there is” implies that things can get much more difficult for the average SWM, and no one should cut him any slack because he already has it so easy.

Most disturbing is that this piece by Scalzi was aimed at a young audience conditioning them to forfeit more of themselves without complaining.

Get ready Straight American White Males; more slavery (taxes, jail, and laws) are coming your way. After all, you have it so easy, you can afford to give up a few more dollars and rights…

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shiva1008 May 21, 2012 at 14:21

Very insightful. I find it irritating when white women make anti-white comments, or comments pointing out supposed white privilege. Since they are a “minority” themselves, they can afford to talk bad about white people. It’s not the same as if they were being passed over for jobs due to affirmative action, or being killed in the dating market due to unnatural leverages provided by government intervention.

And by the way, how the hell are females a “minority”? This just goes to show how stupid feminists are, that they can consider a group who makes up roughly half the population a “minority.”

Message to all women: We’re not stupid. You will not get away with this for long. So enjoy the gravy train while it lasts.

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American May 21, 2012 at 14:26

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shiva1008 May 21, 2012 at 14:26

GBFM writing in plain English, I never thought I’d see the day. :)

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American May 21, 2012 at 14:31

If the White Gender-Raunch establishment was so concerned about minorities, they would make sure there are intact father led families like there used to be in the 50′s.
But White Gender-Raunch have other goals, which only concern White Gender-Raunch, and only parade the black girls in front of the cameras to make the public think they are the minority protectors.

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namae nanka May 21, 2012 at 14:43

“the old explanation was that white folks – men in particular – have “invisible backpacks” ”

knapsacks!
Peggy McIntosh from the Women’s Studies department producing some original work!

Mr. Scalzi says:
‘all the non-player characters in the game are easier on you than they would be otherwise. ‘

NPCs in common gaming parlance, without mentioning that the biggest NPC of them all, the USG is not easier, but much harder.

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Ryu May 21, 2012 at 14:50

Interesting, Welmer. I mean your writing an article like this, not the story itself, which is very common.

I wish you luck on the path. Everyone knows where I stand on the issue of race.

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Days of Broken Arrows May 21, 2012 at 15:06

He’s writing an anti-white male screed on technology developed by white men, on a site run by white men, and using freedom of speech — a concept developed by white men.

He drove to his job in a car driven by white men on roads conceived by white men.

Should I go on? If there’s privilege, it’s earned. White men have power because they came up with all this stuff. If others could have, they would have.

It’s useless to argue this. Instead, the answer should be “damn straight” and cite the above.

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Justinian May 21, 2012 at 15:16

I made the mistake of reading Old Man’s War and its one of those cliche sci-fi stories where female soldiers “kick ass” right along side men. No deep thinking there.

From wiki:

The Android’s Dream, did not sell as well as his Old Man’s War series, but is noted as the only novel, in any genre, in which the entire first chapter is entirely composed of a single, long fart joke.

Look out Heinlein, you’ve met your match! LOL

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Traveller May 21, 2012 at 15:23

GBFM what are you doing here? Roissy will become jealous. :-)

I, too, perceived a difference in this post, not directly and immediately tied to men’s as a whole. It is a sign of the evolution of this blog, men’s rights can not be separed from the human complexity. A sign we can discuss everything without the classic “female point of view”.

The masochism of the libs is not recently perceived. Since the self preservation is a natural instinct, the left is a mental illness, simple. Or just hypocrisy, not other possibilities.

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Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM) May 21, 2012 at 15:25

I would like to let everyone know that I recently lost the Aderoll/Ritalin prescription the School Nurse prescribed be back in fourth grade when I asked, “Is it moral for the Federal Reserve banking cartel to print money and place the world in debt while the rest of us is supposed to work for for that money and pay taxes on it?”

I got sent to the office and drugged up.

But for the past few days I have been off my prescription, so da lzozozozzlzllzozllzozlosszlzozo and tremors have not been afflicting me quite as much lzozozzoz.

Best,

GBFM ;)

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Nemo May 21, 2012 at 15:44

He should look at the trends.

International economic growth: China is having a “slow” year of 8% growth and the US is trying to “accelerate” to 2.5% or, with luck, 3% growth.

International balance of payments: the US has run trade deficits for about thirty years and has a huge international debt. China has about $3 trillion in foreign reserves and can’t find many good places to spend the money.

Ergo, we will soon be working for the Chinese. Just like the Greeks are now learning that Germany has the money and calls the shots in Europe.

There are lots of people in Africa who have experience with Chinese companies and they don’t really give two hoots about anybody who isn’t Chinese.

All of this crap about white male privilege is in itself a sign that white males actually try to balance things out fairly between different groups. If they didn’t then there would be no point to complaining, would there?

Heck, I can easily forsee the Chinese demanding “extraterritorial” rights to set up factories in the USA to make use of cheap ‘foreign’ labor in ten years, with special exemptions from stupid US laws. By then we’ll be bankrupt and in no position to argue. We did it to them a hundred years ago – why shouldn’t they do it to us?

Try getting your Chinese boss to pay for “affirmative action” in 2022 – he’ll just laugh at you.

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Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM) May 21, 2012 at 15:48

Dear Traveller,

I have been waiting for The Spearhead to start pursuing exalted cultural issues. :)

Yesterday I came across a post here quoting my good friend Tacitus.

Today I came across a post taking on one of the fiatocracy’s postmodern feminist-fanboy “authors” who merely exist to debauch, displace, and degrade the exalted context of the Great Books for Men.

Books are those faithful mirrors that reflect to our mind the minds of sages and heroes. –Edward Gibbon

Thomas Jefferson stated, “as we advance in life, they all fall off one by one, until one is left with Virgil and Homer, and perhaps Homer alone.” In his younger, clean-shaven years, Abraham Lincoln carried around a copy of Homer’s Iliad, and during his presidency he traveled with a well-worn copy of Shakespeare. Joseph Campbell tells us why we ought read the Greats—for they are the greatest possible mentors:

Furthermore, we have not even to risk the adventure alone; for the heroes of all time have gone before us, the labyrinth is fully known; we have only to follow the thread of the hero-path. And where we had thought to find an abomination, we shall find a god; where we had thought to slay another, we shall slay ourselves; where we had thought to travel outward, we shall come to the center of our own existence; where we had thought to be alone, we shall be with all the world. — Joseph Campbell

On a common journey we are all called. Without Homer’s Iliad and Odyssey, Virgil would have never penned the Aeneid, nor gone on to lead Dante through The Inferno and mentor Thomas Jefferson and Ludwig von Mises. In his later years Jefferson wrote, “as we advance in life these things fall off one by one, and I suspect we are left with only Homer and Virgil, perhaps with only Homer alone,” and Mises adopted Virgil’s “Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior Ito (Do not yield to misfortunes, but advance more boldly to meet them),” as his lifelong motto—words which formed the heroic premise of Austrian economics, echoing its poetic, moral premise of “Natural Rights, truth, morality, and justice in economics.” Dante’s journey in turn inspired the “Gold 45 Revolver/Ideas Have Consequences/Moral Premise” videogame research, alongside the Beatrice Game Engine and DantesInfernoGame.com, wherein Dante the poet must “boldy advance” through hell to regain Beatrice in Paradisio. Ultimately the Odyssey and Divine Comedy are love stories—the heroic rendering of ideals real so as to gain goddesses of heroic character. And if they are to become epic art and inspire a renaissance, tomorrow’s films, novels, and videogames must follow the classics’ lead. Oscar Wilde reminds us that life imitates art, and when we are allowed to battle for Constitutional ideals in modern novels, films, and videogames—for love, honor, and epic romance—for faith and the family—perhaps we will regain these entities in real life.

While oceans and eras dvide us, classical, epic mythology unites us; as we find that East meets West upon the higher peaks of the human soul, where our better angels gather. The Buddha, Jesus, and Dante all resisted three temptations before embarking on their higher journeys; and all three journeys exalted truth, humility, love, and service over greed and avarice—over the seven deadly sins so eloquently rendered by Dante during his descent.

As sure as Virgil lead Dante, Homer mentored Virgil, and Mises and Jefferson saluted Virgil and Homer, we ride with them all. The Greats are mentors of the immortal soul with whom I journey forth with—these are my best friends—these are the most courageous men I have ever met—who never turned tail, who never backed down, who never sold out—those far, far greater than I who I can only hope to aspire towards.

Come join us–we happy, we few–come join the riders of the immortal soul. For the Renaissance awaits. :)

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"The One" May 21, 2012 at 15:57

“All of this crap about white male privilege is in itself a sign that white males actually try to balance things out fairly between different groups. If they didn’t then there would be no point to complaining, would there?”

No kidding. But I don’t agree about the character of Chinese society.

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Journey May 21, 2012 at 16:09

White male privilege. It’s the centre piece of the “liberals” truly odious ideology. The fact most of them live in overwhelmingly white suburbs while pointing at white working class people trying to do the same and saying “racist” makes me puke. Tim Wise is a prime example, he’s a diversity consultant. I think that’s the 21st century translation for jumped up little piece of shit commissar. He runs round the country fighting white privilege for a (very good) living and runs home to his almost 100% white suburb at night.

When more black people move into a majority white town or neighborhood crime goes up. You can call it racist or you can call it fact. With higher crime property values slowly begin to fall while at the local public schools more gang activity starts and there’s more racial violence. Profits at the local malls begin to fall because of more theft and paying for more security. When the percentage of the population that’s black gets higher you begin to get flash mobs, more random street violence against whites and a lot more violence in the public schools. Property values then really begin to fall. Whites begin to leave in increasing numbers heading for areas that are still overwhelmingly white. They cite the need to put their kid in a good school, they cite the property values and they cite crime. They never EVER say black. Some of the first to leave will be the better off white upper middle class liberals, the ones left behind are those “racist” poorer white working class who can’t leave so easily.
The liberals head to a 90% white suburb or town, they settle down with their white guilt and hypocrisy and start fighting for diversity, sniffing around disapprovingly at their new “hideously white” environment.
Ultimately the suburb or city they left becomes 70 – 90% black as the white flood out goes on. It becomes a crime ridden shit hole with a black mayor, police chief etc. Everything is whitey’s fault and the battle with whitey’s terrible racism goes on. Sometimes after a long time gentrification begins. Realtors will start driving out the blacks and remaining poor whites to redevelop the area. Rich whites will be enticed to the beautiful expensive new houses being built. Stores will follow their buying power and redevelop the long deserted malls or build brand new ones. More blacks and poor whites will be kicked out. It’s the multicultural merry go round and it’s always turning.
The fact that the prime black value is to be not “actin’ white” and being “real” and how that affects black kids in school and therefore for the rest of their lives must not be mentioned. The fact being gangsta gets “da bitches” while black kids who do try to work and get an education are beaten up and mocked and how that might be a reason for the hopelesness and crime in many black suburbs is dismissed as racism. Blaming whitey is the only acceptable answer.
The white male privilege cunts are, like the writer of this articfle says, talking about themselves, not the vast mass of Americans of any color. They’re scumbags plain and simple and they love their moralising position and their “educating” of others in their bullshit. When challenged they either get into a rage and start screaming about centuries of slavery to try and browbeat you or threaten you with a glaring warning about your evil racism.
Their latest fun is section 8 housing where they drop poor black families in majority white neighborhoods. They actually think it’s funny to be chasing round after those “racist” whites who just “won’t let go of their privilege”. They never have section 8 housing into their particular white utopias though of course.
Basically garbage like Scalzi and Wise need a project cinder block on the back of their heads.

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Little John May 21, 2012 at 16:15

You’re right on target, Mr. Price. The only privileged white people in America today, by and large, are rich well-connected white liberals who malign middle and working-class whites. They do so to enhance their political and economic clout–as well as their warped conception of moral superiority.

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keyster May 21, 2012 at 16:28

If we’re all perfectly equal among the sexes and races there needs to be a reason why “people of color” and women have not and are not excelling at near the same rate as “privilaged white males”.

What they teach in ethnic and gender studies curriculum is that “privilaged white males” are subconsciously clinging to their power and covertly undermining and disriminating against minorities and women. There can’t possibly be any other reason, other than perhaps they truely are slightly inferior in intellect and work ethic.

The other theory is that they’re so obsessed with victimhood that they lack the wherewithall to focus on anything else beneficial to all people.

“NBA” (no boys allowed) classes gain traction in Oregon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ5QM3RIp4Q
Boys are holding girls back. You cannot make this shit up.

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The First Joe May 21, 2012 at 16:39

“John forgot to mention that in the U.S. we have the highest incarceration rates in the entire world and about 93% of the people in our prisons are male and the majority of those are white males.”

Errr… No. Wrong. The majority of those men in jail in the US are not white, they are black or hispanic mestizo men.
Also, proportional to their population in the US black men are hugely over-represented in US prisons.

“According to the US Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) non-Hispanic blacks accounted for 39.4% of the prison and jail population in 2009.[32] Hispanics (of all races) were 15.9% of those incarcerated in 2009.[32]”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States#Prison_data

The balance of non-white imprisonment (black vs. Hispanic) seems to be changing recently, possibly as a reflection of demographics:

“Hispanics reached a new milestone for the first time this year, making up the majority of all federal felony offenders sentenced in the first nine months of fiscal year 2011, according to the U.S. Sentencing Commission.

According to the new government report released Tuesday, more than half of all people sent to federal prison for committing felony crimes so far this year were Hispanic, a major demographic shift swollen by immigration offenses.

Hispanics already outnumber all other ethnic groups sentenced to serve time in prison for federal felonies.

Hispanics comprised 50.3 percent of all people sentenced in that time period, blacks 19.7 percent and whites 26.4 percent.

In comparison, last year Hispanics made up just 16 percent of the whole U.S. population.”

http://theamericano.com/2011/09/07/hispanics-outnumber-ethnic-groups-sentenced-prison-federal-felonies/

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anonymous May 21, 2012 at 16:41

I wonder where all this fits into the grand scheme with the liberals working hard to reclassify Asians as whites and this is already happening at the college level . I have heard that the University of California system and some of the ivy league schools are already implementing such policies to limit the number of Asians in their schools.

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Richard May 21, 2012 at 16:50

So if only we had a nation of black lesbians, free of white/male/straight oppression, that nation would have mastered faster-than-light travel, cold fusion, and mix better margaritas than anywhere else on the planet, right?

As a start, guilty whites could move to Zimbabwe…no white privs there…

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a_guy May 21, 2012 at 16:57

There is no such thing as white privilege. The very concept of “white privilege” is merely a justification for taking power and money from those who earn it and giving it to those who don’t, the same as every other scheme the Left has come up with in the last 100 years.

Think of it this way: when we look at the dominance of black men in the NBA, do we say it is because of “black privilege”? Do we assume that there is some invisible force which holds white men (and asians, and indians, and Mexicans) back in basketball? No, of course not, because there is no goal to strip black men of power in the NBA. It is assumed, and correctly so, that the black men who are in the NBA are there because they’re good; they practiced a lot, they trained hard, and they got good. In other words, they earned it. Couple that with the lack of desire to strip that well-earned power and money from black men, and you have a whole lot of silence regarding the “lack of diversity” in the NBA.

However, if you look at any field dominated by white men – engineering, science, mathematics, business, finance, hockey (heh) – and the assumption is pushed that this disparity can only be explained by some kind of invisible, intangible, force, which we will call “white privilege”. Never mind all of the years white guys spent in school rather than the basketball court or the dance club. It MUST be “white privilege” aka “racism” that explains their success. Why? Because the goal is to strip white men of their power and money, and to do that without tipping off the poor suckers enough for them to wise up and fight back, you have to invent some kind of moral justification. You have to convince the marks that they DESERVE to be fleeced. If you’re really lucky, you might even get the poor bastards to help you cart out all of their belongings and help you load your truck.

Keep in mind that affirmative action has effectively existed in the USA since the Civil Rights Act of 1964. That was 48 years ago. 48 years of racial quotas, race-based policies, and minority set-asides. 48 years of preference for blacks in the areas of hiring, acceptance to universities, and government programs, not to mention the incessant cheerleading of the US popular media. For 48 years, a barely literate black man could score himself a full ride to Harvard with a snap of his fingers, while a white man with a 4.0 GPA doesn’t stand a chance (unless he’s rich or connected). And yet, despite that advantage for black men, white men STILL dominate academic areas, science, engineering, and business. That is not white privilege, that is success despite a white DISADVANTAGE, and it is because that’s what white people spend their time getting good at. You know why white people can’t dance? Because they’re too busy working and studying.

White liberals are the most weak-minded people in the world, because not only do they swallow the self-loathing they were instructed to swallow, but they consider themselves morally superior for doing so. They are good slaves and they will be obedient even while the New Order is lining them up and cutting their throats.

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dragnet May 21, 2012 at 17:15

Being black you may take my words with a grain a salt, but here’s my take: that “white” privilege in any meaningful sense is, for the most part, a thing of the past. You are not going to convince me that some poor white boy from West Virginia or Lowell, Mass is somehow more privileged than Barak Obama’s daughters. There was a time in this country when being white really did mean having de facto (and in some cases, de jure) superior social, legal, and economic standing relative to others. But thanks to civil rights, the sexual revolution, globalization, misandry those times are pretty much done for.

Any privilege these days is almost 100 percent a function of wealth (which is the reason I’m for abolishing race-based affirmative action in education and replacing it with socioeconomic). Whatever residual privilege that does exist for whites generally is really based on the fact that they have higher levels of inherited wealth relative to other groups. Debates about white privilege are what venal elites do to keep the lower classes fighting amongst each other while they and their Wall Street bankster friends make off with your dear old dad’s 401k.

Or what’s left of it.

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W.F. Price May 21, 2012 at 17:32

Being black you may take my words with a grain a salt, but here’s my take: that “white” privilege in any meaningful sense is, for the most part, a thing of the past. You are not going to convince me that some poor white boy from West Virginia or Lowell, Mass is somehow more privileged than Barak Obama’s daughters. There was a time in this country when being white really did mean having de facto (and in some cases, de jure) superior social, legal, and economic standing relative to others. But thanks to civil rights, the sexual revolution, globalization, misandry those times are pretty much done for.

Any privilege these days is almost 100 percent a function of wealth (which is the reason I’m for abolishing race-based affirmative action in education and replacing it with socioeconomic). Whatever residual privilege that does exist for whites generally is really based on the fact that they have higher levels of inherited wealth relative to other groups. Debates about white privilege are what venal elites do to keep the lower classes fighting amongst each other while they and their Wall Street bankster friends make off with your dear old dad’s 401k.

Or what’s left of it.

-dragnet

Actually, Dragnet, I think white privilege is very real. I was the beneficiary of it while in China. White Mexicans do very well for themselves. A mediocre white female teacher in DC makes a whole hell of a lot more than most of her neighbors. When I was in Latvia I met some Americans who, although not privileged for their skin color, were definitely privileged by virtue of their nationality. There’s no way some of the mediocrities I met there could have had such high positions here. So perhaps “white” privilege is an inaccurate term, but elite privilege has always been a feature of civilization.

However, this privilege is conditional. And it’s predicated on a particular lifestyle and social system that is better suited to colonial Latin America than the dynamic democracy we have here. In some cases, privileged minorities can exist in a mutually beneficial relationship with their hosts, as in Sephardic Jews in early modern Holland, who invented modern finance with their Dutch colleagues and paved the way for the industrial revolution. However, what we have in the US is a privileged white minority that seeks first and foremost to be a parasite on other, non-privileged whites, and is trying (but failing) to do so through moral appeals.

Instead of trying to find a working solution, they are increasingly turning to divisive, confrontational politics, much as the white elite of the antebellum South forced the issue prior to the US Civil War. As much as it may cause cognitive dissonance to modern readers, I definitely see the white elite in this country as the modern incarnation of the Southern slaver culture. With a good grasp of history, it isn’t much of a stretch, but they’ve succeeded in casting themselves as champions of everyone but themselves even while they are perhaps the most tenacious parasites this nation has seen in ages.

van Rooinek May 21, 2012 at 17:38

I’ll believe in white privilege when I don’t have to work any more 12-14 hour days.

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van Rooinek May 21, 2012 at 17:40

One year, it became common knowledge that there would be twenty positions opening up. Exciting news! Then, a friend of mine with much better connections than me showed me a copy of a memo circulated to senior management. It stated in no uncertain terms that their bonus compensation would depend entirely on whether or not they had improved the company’s gender and racial balance

I hope you snagged a copy. Wait a year and put it on the internet.

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van Rooinek May 21, 2012 at 17:47

I definitely see the white elite in this country as the modern incarnation of the Southern slaver culture. With a good grasp of history, it isn’t much of a stretch

Hell, they even support the same political party as the slavers.

Not that the opposition has its act together right now, more’s the pity, but still, at least we’re not the party of slavery.

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Free Human Being May 21, 2012 at 18:01

I think the worst part is the Scalzi article just wasn’t very convincing. He just tried the repeat until it’s true stance and he never really made a decent point, but all his little sycophants jump on and high five and back slap him. He’s closed the comments too and he was deleting anything that made his pissweak argument look like the pissweak ramble that it was.

Would you choose a character for a game knowing it would be would die 7 years earlier than the female characters, or would be 5 times more likely to kill itself or make up 93% of casualties of employment or have the authorities take more of it’s coin?

Easy setting eh? douchebag, shit analogy more likely.

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ahamkara May 21, 2012 at 18:27

I was a believer in white privilege until my divorce. Then I realized the government had swiped my invisible backpack and given it to my wife! Whoops!

I appreciate GBFM’s comment about the medication. I too have been medicated, although with mild antidepressants, for the past 13 years. As a white male in a liberal environment, I was raised to believe that I was defective. I have to admit it was pretty depressing. Eventually, I begged for the medication.

I’m weaning myself off of it, and so far it’s going quite well. I don’t even need my ex-wife’s permission! Although I’m sure if she finds out we’ll be having a discussion in court about my “mental state”. Fortunately they haven’t given her access to my medical records… yet.

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RMM May 21, 2012 at 18:40

What an apt comparison! Scalzi probably doesn’t realize it, but he’s really struck gold with the analogy.

Why? Because _every_ game that has this competitive online component with different “classes” (in the video game sense of the word, i.e., different character types with actions/skills/attacks that have different effects and values) is plagued to distraction with a constant, unstoppable stream of complaints about balance and, very literally, class warfare.

The amount of players that cry and whine and moan that their class is underpowered, and that they have the toughest job, and that [insert any other class here] is ezymode (because proper spelling is overrated) is downright disturbing, if not disgusting. Even if you’re not a gamer you should venture into the game forums for any of these large games (World of Warcraft would work fine) and look at the discussions on class balance, i.e., class warfare. Extremely insightful.

To put it in simple terms: “Dear developers, Rock is overpowered and needs to be handicapped. Paper is fine. Sincerely, Scissors”.

And to answer it in equally simple terms: Dear Scalzi Stasi. Learn to Play, noob.

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ahamkara May 21, 2012 at 18:42

Just occurred to me… what if liberal education is just one gigantic shit test? They’re trying to figure out who the Bill Clintons are among them.

Wish I’d thought of that 20 years ago. Well, with any luck I can help my son get through it.

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Boxer May 21, 2012 at 19:14

I definitely see the white elite in this country as the modern incarnation of the Southern slaver culture.

Very interesting analogy. Bernard Bailyn approaches something similar in a couple of his works, but never pins it down.

I think there’s a case to be made for a direct ideological descent from planter culture (surviving in the south, but originating everywhere) to the ruling caste in modern North America. It’d be cool to see you (or anyone) expand on this someday.

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Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Tech May 21, 2012 at 20:09

There’s already a follow up on Kotaku. It’s just as moronic as the original article.

So the video game comparison is a little better, as it uses an activity that is very popular with young white males to make the point rather than relying on magical backpacks.

This is what a lot of that article is about. Many men stop watching and listening to media like TV and radio that insults and attacks them. These men head to things like science fiction and video games because it didn’t insult and attack them. Since these men have temporarily escaped the reach of feminist propaganda, feminists like Scalzi try to repackage the language and ideas these men use to push feminist propaganda. Thus we get nonsense like this where straight white men are equivalent to the lowest difficulty setting on a video game. It’s very similar to how game 2.0 attempts to repackage the male language and ideas of game for pro-feminist/pro-woman purposes.

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David G May 21, 2012 at 20:38

As an evil whitey I’m doing my bit to correct this travesty by avoiding white women like the plague and only dating Asian or Hispanic women, thus contributing to western genetic diversity.

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Eric May 21, 2012 at 20:40

Price;
I notice the same premises in Scalzi’s arguments are not fundamentally different than Futrelle’s, except one goes to race, the other to gender.

The same thing that motivates Futrelle— thinking that bashing men will turn women on to him— is probably behind Scalzi’s attitude. He figures that by bashing ‘Whitey’, it will appeal to the growing numbers of young minority males and open up a new market share for his video-gaming enterprises. If that’s what he’s thinking, it won’t work for him any more than it’s worked for Futrelle.

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W.F. Price May 21, 2012 at 20:41

This is what a lot of that article is about. Many men stop watching and listening to media like TV and radio that insults and attacks them. These men head to things like science fiction and video games because it didn’t insult and attack them. Since these men have temporarily escaped the reach of feminist propaganda, feminists like Scalzi try to repackage the language and ideas these men use to push feminist propaganda.

-PMAFT

Last I checked, Scalzi is trying to package sci-fi to appeal to tween girls. He seems to think that’s where the money is. For some reason, I don’t think a pompous blowhard like Scalzi is going to be able to pull off a JK Rowling or Stephanie Meyer style hit.

Guys should just ignore him. He’s contributed nothing of value, and is a hateful prick.

Johnycomelatley May 21, 2012 at 20:42

Apex fallacy all over again.

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Tom936 May 21, 2012 at 20:44

Scalzi compares white male privilege to having the easy setting turned on when playing a video game

Do people like him even realize how insane they sound to anyone outside their PC circle?

You want to talk about the easy setting, Scalzi? Take a whiff of Affirmative Action and set-asides and the other stuff. When college entrance qualifications give you more points for your dark skin color and your sex than they give for a high SAT score, that’s when you’re playing on the easy setting. When employers come to you while better-qualified white men can’t get an interview, that’s playing life on the easy setting.

But to say that white men are on the easy setting is just crazy.

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Eric May 21, 2012 at 20:46

Boxer:
There is a definite connection between the two. Thomas Fleming, a fanatical anti-MRM blogger is also a sympathizer with the ideals of the Old Confederacy. He routinely writes about ‘chivalry’ as a distinctive trait of the ‘Southern Culture.’

In my experience, though, most of the Southern white elites look down on white Americans from other parts of the country and see us as inferiors.

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Eric May 21, 2012 at 20:54

DavidG:

Now, that’s the kind of ‘multiculturalism’ I could support! LOL It’s amazing how these PC-types who preach diversity go red in the face whenever a white guy dates a Latina or Asian girl.

I heard Thom Hartmann, a ‘progressive’ mangina of the lowest order, gushing on the radio recently about how census figures showed that minority and mixed race children were outnumbering whites for the first time in history. I noticed though that Hartmann also very discreetly swept under the rug the fact that many, if not most, of those ‘mixed race children’ have white fathers.

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jaego May 21, 2012 at 22:20

Political Correctness (a mutation of Christianity) seemed to appear simultaneously in both England and New England. It was obsessed with the false idea of all men being equal – an absurdity. Some of these ideas can be seen as far back as the Revolution – the dictatorial John Adams, a staunch believer in proto Liberalism. And Thomas Jefferson, a gentle Aristocrat and real Liberal in the original sense of being a free thinker.

The South followed the Jeffersonian Tradition of Natural Aristocracy and White Rights. Without loving your own people, you cannot have a Nation. And we see the results of this lack of love today. The Great Men of the South had begun to come out against Slavery – it was bad for Whites after all and immoral as well. Robert E Lee had alot of sympathy for the White working man and the unfair competition he faced from the Elite and their Black Slaves. The Civil War was thus unnecessary. Slavery would have been phased out in the South in any case.

Read the classic “I’ll Take My Stand”, an anthology of the Southern Agrarians. They have the answer to our plight: Love of the Land and Love of our Race. The Northern Liberals and the Eastern Establishment are the Globalist Traitors. They kept selling slaves elsehwere even after they had defeated the “horrible” South. And they still have people utterly confused with all their fancy talk about the New Age and Brotherhood of Man. It’s all just a way to disempower the old Elite and appropriate it for themselves. They are the Modern Slavemasters – not the American First types, Tea Party, States Rights, White Nationalists, etc.

Once you have people looking for perfection and willing to kill millions for it, you have them utterly. They will throw away perfectly good institutions and systems of law, for a mythical Brotherhood of Man. In any case, the other Races are just out for themselves. The Elite know this but think they can handle them as they destroy America. I’m not so sure. But White Men should know that both are against us, our Nations, and our Civilization.

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Charles Martel May 21, 2012 at 23:54

W.F. Price
Last I checked, Scalzi is trying to package sci-fi to appeal to tween girls. He seems to think that’s where the money is.

He’s on to something. If you head to your local Barnes & Noble you’ll find a whole section of Teen Paranormal Romance . Otherwise known as Teen Dangerous-But-In-A-Safe-Way Fantasy Alpha Romance. Literature ain’t what it used to be.

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will May 22, 2012 at 00:13

GBFM. Nice to see you here. Traveling around the Androsphere have you?

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Brigadon May 22, 2012 at 00:37

Vampires only sparkle in the split second before they turn into a huge raging screaming fucking bonfire.

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dhanu May 22, 2012 at 01:14

OT: Teacher suspended for bullying the student to not criticize Obama: http://www.salisburypost.com/News/052112-WEB-North-Rowan-teacher-suspended-qcd

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evilwhitemalempire May 22, 2012 at 02:28

limousine socialism

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walking in hell May 22, 2012 at 02:45

In praise of single mothers article.
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/05/in-praise-of-single-mothers/257037/

Check this link out. You can see the kind of propaganda the MRM is up against. Notice how the most illogical and pro-single mother posts got the highest votes. Quite discouraging.

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walking in hell May 22, 2012 at 02:54

Single moms get pampered by Lutheran Church
http://www.pjstar.com/news/x2069498841/Single-moms-get-pampered

Way to go American Christian Churches. Send a message that single motherhood is honorable and acceptable.

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finndistan May 22, 2012 at 03:55

White privilege, having a job from which you pay 50% tax (in Europe), which means from which you dedicate 50% of your limited time and life energy to pay the taxes that go as food, housing, drug money, disco money and contraception money and just all around hang-out-do-nothing-in-the-best-case-scenario money to the morons, parasites, underpriviledged, uneducatable, unemployable, unassimilable, unadaptable, and a minority of really in need and deserving.

White privilege means dying in millions to abolish slavery,

Dying in millions in an almost all white war…

White privilege also mean having invented almost everything that makes possible the overpopulation of the underprivileged to the tune of ten fold.

If I piss of someone reading that comment,

White privilege, having people pissed of at you for looking up for your own interests once in a while…

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freebird May 22, 2012 at 04:16

There’s only one way to get the boot off your neck.
Yes, it’s what they are fomenting,but what other option is there?

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Ode May 22, 2012 at 04:25

White privilege can only exist in a multiracial setting. It cannot meaningfully exist in, say, North Dakota, because there are virtually no minorities. Without minorities, whites have no relative privilege.

According to this logic white people in Norway, Sweden, and Switzerland should have a second rate standard of living because there’s a lack of non-white people to exploit for financial profit.
Oops
These countries have some of the highest standards of living on this planet. It’s hard not to see the facts which stare at us in the face, unless of course you have your head in the ground.
White people do NOT need non-Whites to create a wonderful place to live.

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Rmaxd May 22, 2012 at 06:14

This is how modern day countries are ruled, reward the weak & useless to suppress & combat the people who do the REAL work

You no longer live in a meritocracy, based on your intelligence & hardwork, & networth

No, you are now based on how much a threat you are to the system, PRECISELY because of, based on your intelligence & hardwork, & networth

THIS is what happens when you allow corporations & political parties, to lobby & create social & political policy

You get an acceleration of dictatorship & police state, resulting in the Orwellian political nightmare, current

White Privilege?

Privilege can only exist in contrast to wealth & power … It’s a societal clause designed to satisfy a womans need for hypergamy

In a Monogamous society, Privilege & Class is the ONLY way to satisfy a womans hypergamy, Outside of a Harem

How Many people own their own companies, corporations, or farms … ?

Now how many people own their own industries & continents, & factories, & global industrial complexes?

White Privilege only exists in contrast to wealth & wealth of law & in contrast of the under-priviliged

IRONICALLY, there are MORE under-priviliged whites, then there are minorities, in ANY white country …

In short, there is no such thing as white privilege on a mass scale …

The true Parasitic Priviliged do so by taking away privilege from regular white people & funnelling it to dead beat mothers & minorities

The whole point of attacking white people & enslaving them, by destroying their communities & white traditions, is to prevent Social Mobility & stave of competition from local white entrepreneurs & the political power of working traditional white communities

The greatest threat to any Parsitic Privileged class is its own slaves, their ingenuity & innovation, the same ingenuity & technological innovation they exploited to build their empires, is also their greatest competition

OF COURSE women are classed as a minority, as women never built or contributed a single brick in forming our society or civilisation

NOBODY who’s a threat, would EVER be considered a minority & given privilege & affirmative action

As I stated before this is about & has always been about Socially Approved Slavery

& Social Subjugation

Of course we can, like the Occupy Wall Street, blame the TRUE privileged, or we can like men have always done …

FIGHT BACK

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Uncle Elmer May 22, 2012 at 06:29

walking in hell May 22, 2012 at 02:45

In praise of single mothers article.
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/05/in-praise-of-single-mothers/257037/

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I would post a comment but “Atlantic” bravely banned me forever when I casually suggested that Taneesha Coates only pretended to like “rap” music because he thought it annoyed white people.

They can sure dish it out though.

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Taank May 22, 2012 at 06:34

Discussions of privilege always make me laugh. The problem is that, because of the way it is defined, privelege is either inherently racist (white privilege) or inherently sexist (male privilege) or both. As soon as you say “All white people have it easier” or “All men have it easier” you are already wrong, because there will always be some white people, or men, or (say it ain’t so!) white men who don’t actually have it easier.

I am currently almost forty, and my experience has simply been that being white and being male have both been handicaps for me. I am very proud of the successes I have achieved in my life, because I know that I’ve made them in the absence of any help from society, rather than because of it. The biggest setbacks in my life have been a direct result of being white; but each time I’ve simply considered it an opportunity to explore new possibilities, and every time it’s turned out to be something I could turn into a positive with a little hard work. When someone pops up and tells me that I had it easy because I’m a straight white male, they are basically telling me to take less pride in my success and my hard work; so I just chuckle, shrug, write them off as clueless idiots, and get back to making my life successful.

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Rmaxd May 22, 2012 at 06:41

Oh yea …

The Focus on Ethnicity & Race & Women is Pure & All Out Propoganda on a Massive scale …

In ANY given white country, OVER 60% of the white people are under-privileged AND earn BELOW minimum wage

The whole point of focusing on ethnics & blacks & single mothers, is to cover up the MASS unemployment, & POVERTY of white people on a NATIONAL SCALE

There are far MORE white people living in SQUALOR & poverty, then ALL OF THE ETHNIC MINORITIES, AND SINGLE MOTHERS COMBINED …

This is how you’re REALLY RULED …

Hide the facts, hide the statistics, distract the people from knowing THEYRE the ones getting screwed over

& offer trinkets & baubles to blacks & africans & single mother parasitic sluts, to screw over the REAL majority of people

White wash the REAL economics
White wash the REAL POVERTY
White wash the REAL people getting taxed & subjugated to death

Ironically all the white washing, happens to be white …

Politically the MAJORITY are NEVER Classed as OPPRESSED, why the hell would you tell a slave, he’s a slave class?

The whole point of a slave class is to exploit & oppress, NOT educate them of their own exploitation & slavery …

Which is WHY, YOU as a slave class are fed all this crap about political correctness, single mothers as victims, liberalism & what about the poor …

It’s all designed so you NEVER discuss the problems of YOU the majority …

Use the minority & useless, by telling them how victimised & SPECIAL they are …

To Subjugate the majority …

Machiavelli 101 …

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Ethical May 22, 2012 at 06:50

The real trick is exactly how the privilege of a few rich white males in certain professions and geographies is used to deny the disadvantage of in some cases the majority of working class white males. This can only happen through a combination of a popular media blackout on alternative views, together with white knightery. It’s this same problem that’s crippled the MRM in the past . Outside of the fast growing manosphere men’s rights still faces issues getting a message out there because of this media blackout.

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DG May 22, 2012 at 07:33

Heh.

OK, I liked Old Man’s War, but found most of Scalzi’s other stuff unreadable after trying a few other books.

That said, there’s an interesting takedown – two sites removed: (This site refers to a post from another site on the same subject as Scalzis, but simply showing the relevant stats and asking what to think about it. This post nevertheless directly addresses the point of Scalzi’s as to WHY some of those differences exist)

http://www.michaelzwilliamson.com/blog/item/shades-of-privilege

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Mikediver May 22, 2012 at 07:48

It is interesting to note that in Norway either last year or the year before 100% of violent rapes were committed by Muslim immigrants. However, neighbor Sweden refuses to note the ethnicity of perpetrators (if they are not native Swedish) so there is no comparable stat. Interesting as this is how reality is twisted in an Orwellian regime. Never believe anything in the MSM; not one word or video image.

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Kato May 22, 2012 at 08:28

Wow. I’m speechless. The author of this has clearly NEVER been to North Dakota. We’re swimming in minorities!!! We have more minority welfare leeches than we know what to do with!!!

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VKH May 22, 2012 at 08:48

Have you guys ever noticed that Obama does NOT wear a flag pin?

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AfOR May 22, 2012 at 08:58

Writers are always… “interesting”…

I used to “know” a published female writer of erotic fiction, I should still have a bunch of hard porn photos of her nekkid, and the differences between the type of person you might assume she would be from the subject matter of her novels, and indeed the type of lifestyle and life experiences you might assume she had, and reality was astonishing for the vastness of the gulf between the two.

Scalzi’s “professional” output is quite frankly dreck, “old men” would have worked as a short story, or with someone who could actually WRITE as a full length novel or trilogy, but having skimmed through ALL his output I have to say they are all essentially the same book, all cunt worshipping, no actual plot development or logical scientific structure or observations of actual human nature.

Without fucking exception, every time I go near a story and the writer has made the wimminz in the story strong and empowered and ass kicking, the stories themselves are complete dreck, full of more plot holes and contradictions than a swiss cheese.

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Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM) May 22, 2012 at 09:01

Dear Friends,

Above 11 people vote down a videogame that allows one to fight for the U.S. Constitution as well as the Classical Code of Honor in the Great Books.

I’m puzzled by this.

I thought that this site was a site that supported the Classical Code of Honor found throughout the Great Books for Men.

Perhaps some of you could elaborate on why you voted against a videogame that exalts a “Classical Code of Honor found throughout the Great Books for Men?”

Thanks in advance! I, as I am sure are many others, am quite curious!

;)

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ramzpaul May 22, 2012 at 09:17

He is correct that People Without Color are wicked and evil. The only logical solution is that People Without Color people should be put in their own country so that they can’t exploit People Of Color.

Seems like a win-win to me.

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universe May 22, 2012 at 09:22

Privilege huh.

Lessee, had to get up this morning and engage myself in activities not to my liking so as to pay for the expenses associated with basic living (food, clothing, housing) and a few luxury items (auto, dining out – boring, huh) because no one is going to support me with these most of basics.
Then, penalties are extracted from my labour (taxes) which still contributes to paving a much easier way for those who receive the privilege of not having to work or prove themselves as hard as I in the workforce (ie. – especially females then minorities).
I do not support a family but it looks as though the purpose to my existance is to nourish and house my body to partially support the nourishing of other people whom I do not know, who don’t give two hoots about me and because of corrupt politics never will.

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Brigadon May 22, 2012 at 09:54

@GB4M-

You do not understand. The suggestion was downvoted because we disagree with the idea of ‘patenting’ unrealized ideas.

Your idea is USELESS unless you have already created an invention. Every day, a million people come up with the exact same idea. simply filing paperwork so that you can sue the first person that comes along and turns that idea into a reality is sick.

Patent and Copyright law as it exists in this country is stunningly fucked in favor of greed. That’s your downvotes.

Maybe the guy’s idea is a good one, but by patenting it without having any actual existence, he has ensured that the idea is shut off for all time by potential ‘makers’… Which is, in fact, a victory for those who want to deny us our freedoms.

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Brigadon May 22, 2012 at 10:01

@Afor-

David Drake’s ‘Honor Harrington’ series is not exactly what I would classify as ‘Dreck’, although it certainly is not top-shelf science fiction.

Of course, he did bow to the neccessity of making his character believable, making her virtually sexless (No periods during the books), with totally masculine ideals and belief systems, and a heavyworlder to boot (naturally stronger than everyone else)

Making the woman basically male to make the stories of her exploits plausible is referred to by feminists as ‘bad characterization’.

There was also a ‘strong, capable’ female wookie in the han solo stories that was pretty cool. But I am not sure she counts.

I used to be a fan of Mercedes lackey, but the moment I red pilled and tried to read them again, I recognized the thick, ropy propaganda twisting through pretty much every bit of her literature. Disgusted, I stopped being able to read them anymore. People that intentionally lie about history piss me off.

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Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM) May 22, 2012 at 10:09

Dear Brigadoon,

Actually, by patenting the idea, the inventor shared their ideas with the entire world.

I am sure that someone could take the innovation a step further, and design/patent/invent something even greater.

The way I see it, Patent and Copyright are great for the indie creator. But, the corporate lawyers oft corrupt the spirit of the law.

Finally, you write, “Maybe the guy’s idea is a good one, but by patenting it without having any actual existence, he has ensured that the idea is shut off for all time by potential ‘makers’…”

I’m not sure I agree with this? Apple has thousands of patents, and yet somehow a lot of their inventions get made.

I agree with you that Patent and Copyright can be abused–for instance, with the record labels suing people and winning millions of dollars from individuals for downloading a few songs, while billion-dollar tech companies such as youtube host thousands of those songs and share far more of them every day than the persecuted individual.

However, I don’t think we should be *against* patent and copyright, for property rights are the cornerstone of liberty and freedom.

;)

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Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM) May 22, 2012 at 10:14

^^^ p.s. the entire feminist movement is fundamentally about property rights and violating and abusing the property rights of good, honest, hardworking men, transferring their wealth, innovations, and labor to the central mangina banking cartel and fanboy feminist fiatocracy. so, as a general principle, i applaud those indie innovators who are patenting videogames that allow one to battle the feminist fanboy fiatcoracy. :)

“art imitates life” wrote oscar wilde, and if boys are afforded the opportunity to man up in videogames and fight for the constitution, perhaps they will also do so in real life. ;)

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keyster May 22, 2012 at 10:14

He is correct that People Without Color are wicked and evil. The only logical solution is that People Without Color people should be put in their own country so that they can’t exploit People Of Color.

This is why I’m a supporter of the New Black Panther Party.
They’re demanding complete racial seperatism. They want the US government to grant them their own territory where they can rule over their own black only country-state, free from honky oppression and exploitation.

We awarded Indians with reservations (and casino licenses) so they could live on their own as reparations for taking their land. We should give land to the black race as reparations for slavery. I’m sure it would work out fine; kinda like Zimbabwe or Liberia.

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Joe May 22, 2012 at 10:19

It’s convenient for many white people-both male and female- to cling to the notion of white male privelege. This way, the don’t have to show any loyalty, or in any way help their own kind. It’s a very convenient excuse for them to run off and ignore their own race,their own people,their own families, and go do their “own thing” without giving it a second thought.
Unfortunaley for us, members of the white race, the mercenary spirit seems to run deep in our blood and many whites are always looking for an excuse to sell one another out. Hence, open borders and massive immigration.
The mercenary spirit that’s inherent in our blood is the Achilles Heel of the white race. Considering the state of our country and the West in general, we don’t have the luxury to be mercenary and to do “our own thing” as we did when the country was predominately white.
I can understand to a degree why white women use white “male privelege “as an excuse ( though I think they are wrong to do so), but white men like John Scalzi are just putrid.
He doesn’t seem to give white children much thought as white children being born today will be in the minority and attitudes like his are not doing the next generation of white children any good. Attitudes like Scalzi’s just encourages the so-called minorities to attack us more– in all kinds of ways,on the streets and in business through affirmative action set asides.
He does a great disservice to his race by demeaning his fellow white men, and by demeaning us, he also demeans white women and our children. He’s disgusting.

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Miserman May 22, 2012 at 11:13

However, in places like Los Angeles, white male privilege is very real, and is exemplified by people like George Clooney.

And I thought minority immigrants were mass imported to tear down white privilege, not prop it up.

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BB May 22, 2012 at 11:16

If you translate the word “privilege” to mean “natural talents and abilities” then it all makes sense and yes, we’re “privileged”. OF COURSE those who have this “privilege” find the world on an easy(er) setting. One armed people have more difficulty playing pinball. Too bad. It’s not the white mans’ fault that others are underprivileged. Those who lack this “privilege” are trying to foist a “Harrison Bergeron” world on us.

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Brigadon May 22, 2012 at 11:31

Excuse me, David Weber, not Drake

@GB4M-
Apple has thousands of patents, and they are self-funded and self-producing. This guy isn’t even a coder or artist.

Property rights are NOT the cornerstone of freedom. And ‘intellectual rights’ are perhaps one of the worst hurdles to societal and technological advancement in existence. The idea that someone can own an ‘idea’ is psychotic on it’s face.

I agree that, if someone creates something, they should have the chance to make some money on it before everyone can make copies of it. However, the concept that the idea ITSELF is inviolable is both socially and morally reprehensible, and has led to the belief (That feminism uses to justify a male-free society) That simply coming up with a good idea should lead to wealth and status without all that tedious mucking about with actually DOING anything worthwhile.

The only ‘right’ you have to an idea is the right to keep it to yourself. Or to be the first one to do something with it.

I keep seeing this incredibly stupid commercial before every movie you watch in the theater today. It starts off with “you wouldn’t steal a car…” and keeps showing these guys stealing stuff like cars, purses, CD’s, wallets….

And then it shows some kid downloading a movie and tries to equate that with stealing real, physical property.

While I have all the sympathy in the world for content creators, someone ‘taking’ your content does not deprive you of it. At best, you can claim that they are ‘depriving you of profit’, but that is the moral equivalent of opening up a competing business.

The worst part is, most people that ‘steal content’ would not have, or could not afford to, purchase that content in the first place. So the argument that someone copying your content is ‘stealing your profit’ is specious at best.

I appreciate that artists should be making a living. Do I think that they should be making six figure incomes or better just for doing what they love? Fuck no.

If I create a new sort of mousetrap, and the guy next door builds an even BETTER mousetrap, for cheaper, do I deserve a cut of his hard work for having come up with the idea first? Not a fucking chance.

Fucking entitlement monkeys.

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Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM) May 22, 2012 at 11:39

Dear Brigadon,

Steve Jobs wasn’t a coder nor engineer. Are you stating he had no right to build now own ideas powering Apple?

CliffyB of Gears of War is neither a coder nor artist. Are you saying that he should not have been allowed to design and lead the blockbuster Gears of War Franchise?

The inventor didn’t just “come up with an idea.” He filed a 100+ page patent on it, replete with numerous figures. Countless hours–hundreds, if not thousands–must have gone into the research and authoring of such a document.

So Brigadon, as you are against Patents and Copyrights, are you also against the US Constitution?

The only place the word “right” appears in the us constitution is in the following line:

Article I, Section 8, Clause 8 of the United States Constitution, known as the Copyright Clause, empowers the United States Congress:
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.

Brigadon–perchance you favor feminism over rugged, hard innovation and invention?

What is wrong with someone patenting something as they are designing and building it?

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Brigadon May 22, 2012 at 11:57

@GB4M-

“Steve Jobs wasn’t a coder nor engineer. Are you stating he had no right to build now own ideas powering Apple?

CliffyB of Gears of War is neither a coder nor artist. Are you saying that he should not have been allowed to design and lead the blockbuster Gears of War Franchise?”

Nice attempt at reframing. Go fuck yourself.

“To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.”

Limited times. Not 110+ years.
I was talking about ideas, you are talking about products.
‘discoveries’, not ‘imaginary inventions’.

‘Copyright’ specifically means the right to PROFIT from media. NOT the right to deny people access to it.

I would be the first to beat down someone that copied a movie or game and then SOLD it. but the act of reproducing it is socially, morally, and ethically responsible, on all levels.

But please, keep trying.

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Ex-Army May 22, 2012 at 13:34

Nice take on the annoying fellow. Yous is deeper, but here’s mine:
http://ex-army.blogspot.com/2012/05/scalzis-scurrilous-silliness.html

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MRA May 22, 2012 at 15:37

“One might wonder why a gaming site would publish a piece virtually guaranteed to alienate its key demographic, but such are the times we live in that political correctness demands tribute from all.”

Don’t forget Kotaku is owned by Gawker Media who also owns Jezebel and one more thing, getting into/hijacking male dominated fields like video games is one of the many attempts from feminists in the last 5 years, going from STEM, Silicon Valley to Video games, they want to destroy and take over the latest male dominated area.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w307tyvUSEo&feature=plcp

The ComicCon and other geek conventions which used to be assisted by geeks, nerds and social rejected guys are now getting a backlash form feminists labeling geeks conventions as places where sexual harassment and assault assault is rampant.

http://msmagazine.com/blog/blog/2011/07/26/a-feminist-visits-comic-con/

Here is a good respond
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40dOAvccnt0

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!!SPARTA!! May 22, 2012 at 17:31

Hey, Check it out! More “Male Privilege”!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/22/amanda-logue-porn-star-su_n_1535574.html?ref=crime

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will May 22, 2012 at 18:32
JFP May 23, 2012 at 01:08

As its been said, Scalzi is just pandering to his SF marketplace or what he views it is.

Scalzi’s WoW reference is most amusing considering, all you have to do to get attention there is create a female character and be nice. You don’t have to flirt and you’ll get guys (teens and adults) to treat you like a princess or damn near it, willing to help you out.

RMM, you cannot compare marxism’s class warfare to WoW “class warfare”. Yes, there are many whiners on the wow forums, there are also legitimate design problems with classes at varying times in the game. Imbalance so bad that no one wants to play that class.

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Brigadon May 23, 2012 at 02:34

Good catch, Will, It’s nice when some professional articulator is able to more adequately describe what you are wrestling with identifying.

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Opus May 23, 2012 at 07:22

Patents and Copyright are both Intellectual Feudalism.

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Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM) May 23, 2012 at 07:30

Dear Will,

While Mises supported intellectual property rights, the vast majority of contributors to Mises.org are unproductive socialists. Many of them are professors who live off epic, unprecedented student debt. While Mises was also for sound currency and the gold standard, the vast majority of professors/socialists posting to Mises.org never speak out against the massive student debt, as they profit most handsomely off it.

Listen to the prophet–not those who profit by corrupting him in their “church.”

Ludwig von Mises: The truth is that every infringement of property rights and every restriction of free enterprise impairs the productivity of labor.
Ludwig von Mises The program of liberalism, therefore, if condensed into a single word, would have to read: property, that is, private ownership of the means of production. . . . All the other demands of liberalism result from this fundamental demand. Liberalism p. 19 Private Property
Ludwig von Mises The essential teaching of liberalism is that social cooperation and the division of labor can be achieved only in a system of private ownership of the means of production, i.e., within a market society, or capitalism. All the other principles of liberalismdemocracy, personal freedom of the individual, freedom of speech and of the press, religious tolerance, peace among the nationsare consequences of this basic postulate. They can be realized only within a society based on private property. Omnipotent Government p. 48 Private Property
Ludwig von Mises Private property creates for the individual a sphere in which he is free of the state. It sets limits to the operation of the authoritarian will. It allows other forces to arise side by side with and in opposition to political power. Liberalism pp. 6768 Private Property
Ludwig von Mises If history could prove and teach us anything, it would be that private ownership of the means of production is a necessary requisite of civilization and material well-being. . . . Only nations committed to the principle of private property have risen above penury and produced science, art and literature. Planned Chaos p. 81 Private Property
Ludwig von Mises It belongs to the very essence of a society based on private ownership of the means of production that every man may work and dispose of his earnings where he thinks best. Planned Chaos p. 81 Private Property
Ludwig von Mises Under capitalism, private property is the consummation of the self-determination of the consumers. Human Action p. 680; p. 683 Private Property
Ludwig von Mises Social cooperation, however, can be based only on the foundation of private ownership of the means of production. Epistemological Problems of Economics p. 39 Private Property
Ludwig von Mises The continued existence of society depends upon private property. Liberalism p. 87 Private Property
Ludwig von Mises Governments tolerate private property when they are compelled to do so, but they do not acknowledge it voluntarily in recognition of its necessity. Liberalism p. 68 Private Property
Ludwig von Mises The haves do not have any more reason to support the institution of private ownership of the means of production than do the have-nots.

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Charles Martel May 23, 2012 at 10:53

Opus
Patents and Copyright are both Intellectual Feudalism.

An unsurprising point of view from a lawyer as lawyers neither invent nor create.

My biggest beef with patents is they are only as good as the bankroll and legal department behind them. They benefit entrepreneurs very little, which is why I avoid patents and rely on other strategies in my business.

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Ghost May 23, 2012 at 10:55

White Privelege is socially acceptable racist stereotyping.

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Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM) May 23, 2012 at 11:28

Those against patents and copyrights oft argue that copying a song is not theft, as it does not rob the creator of their original copy.

By that logic, suppose I copy the digital number in your bank account and add it to mine. It is not theft, as you still have your money.

Such is the way the libertarian fanboyz reason, as they deconstruct and debauch the noble Mises. Is it any wonder the fantard “libertarians,” often offering the worst of both worlds from the conservatives and liberals, never make any progress beyond deconstructing the noble Mises in their own circles?

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Opus May 23, 2012 at 11:43

@Charles Martel

I am surprised. I would have thought that Lawyers would have been in favour of Patents and Copyright, seeing as they stand to gain from enforcing or defending claims thereto – I have only touched on it briefly and in a minor way – Further: would that lawyers did not create: it seems to me that most Judges make it up as they go along.

Be that as it may, my view is that, like Democracy, Patents and Copyright are unstoppable and the time limits will be pushed forever further and further back. I predict it will not be long before there will be claims for Copyright to The Old Testament, with Catholics putting in a strong claim to the New.

Quite why someone’s great nephew should be in recipt of large sums because of an accident of birth, defeats me. Why anyone should get paid for work they did fifty years ago when they have already been paid, likewise.

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W.F. Price May 23, 2012 at 11:49

My biggest beef with patents is they are only as good as the bankroll and legal department behind them.

-CM

Copyright is essentially the same.

Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM) May 23, 2012 at 12:38

One of the reasons the Scalzis are winning is that libertariantard fanboyz desecrate and debauch the Noble and Mighty Mises.

Steve Jobs: If copyright dies, if patents die, if the protection of intellectual property is eroded, then people will stop investing. That hurts everyone. —Rolling Stone, 2003

F.A. Hayek: What our generation has forgotten is that the system of private property is the most important guarantee of freedom, not only for those who own property, but scarcely less for those who do not. It is only because the control of the means of production is divided among many people acting independently that nobody has complete power over us, that we as individuals can decide what to do with ourselves.

Ludwig von Mises: It is impossible to grasp the meaning of the idea of sound money if one does not realize that it was devised as an instrument for the protection of civil liberties against despotic inroads on the part of governments. Ideologically it belongs in the same class with political constitutions and bills of rights. The demand for constitutional guarantees and for bills of rights was a reaction against arbitrary rule and the nonobservance of old customs by kings. The postulate of sound money was first brought up as a response to the princely practice of debasing the coinage. It was later carefully elaborated and perfected in the age which—through the experience of the American continental currency, the paper money of the French Revolution and the British restriction period—had learned what a government can do to a nation’s currency system.

James Madison: Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their death.

Walter Lippmann: Private property was the original source of freedom. It still is its main bulwark.

G.K. Chesterton: Thieves respect property. They merely wish the property to become their property that they may more perfectly respect it.

Ludwig von Mises: If history could teach us anything, it would be that private property is inextricably linked with civilization.

John Locke: Every man has a property in his own person. This nobody has a right to, but himself.

Ludwig von Mises: A government that sets out to abolish market prices is inevitably driven toward the abolition of private property; it has to recognize that there is no middle way between the system of private property in the means of production combined with free contract, and the system of common ownership of the means of production, or socialism. It is gradually forced toward compulsory production, universal obligation to labor, rationing of consumption, and, finally, official regulation of the whole of production and consumption.

Thomas Jefferson: The true foundation of republican government is the equal right of every citizen in his person and property and in their management.

Ludwig von Mises: The social system of private property and limited government is the only system that tends to debarbarize all those who have the innate capacity to acquire personal culture. Liberty and Property p. 26 Barbarism

Ludwig von Mises: The foundation of any and every civilization, including our own, is private ownership of the means of production. Whoever wishes to criticize modern civilization, therefore, begins with private property. Liberalism, p. 63 Civilization

Ludwig von Mises: Freedom, democracy, peace, and private property are deemed good because they are the best means for promoting human happiness and welfare. Liberalism wants to secure to man a life free from fear and want. That is all. Omnipotent Government p. 51, Classical Liberalism

Ludwig von Mises In spite of all persecutions, however, the institution of private property has survived. Neither the animosity of all governments, nor the hostile campaign waged against it by writers and moralists and by churches and religions, nor the resentment of the masses…has availed to abolish it. Liberalism p. 69

Ludwig von Mises: If the State takes the power of disposal from the owner piecemeal, by extending its influence over production… then the owner is left at last with nothing except the empty name of ownership, and property has passed into the hands of the State. Socialism p. 45, Interventionism

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Brigadon May 23, 2012 at 15:23

@GB4M-
The only relevant comment in that…incredibly long, boring list of compiled quotations was the one by steven jobs, and he was hardly what you would consider a pillar of human liberty. He honestly believed That if his people were not putting in 22 hour days, they needed to be fired. He was an enterpreneur, but had no clue about human nature, research, or even the technology that he was marketing. Every single innovation he created was purchased, stolen, or conned from someone else.

Of course he supported patent and copyright law. How else was he to destroy healthy competition?

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Eric May 23, 2012 at 15:36

Opus,
The problem, at least in the US anyway, is that lawyers are typically more involved in stealing copyrights and patents than they are in enforcing them.

But the other question, about perpetual copyrights: what if a person’s heirs have a vested interest in the copyrighted/patented material? Suppose I patent an invention and build a company selling the invention. I die and leave the company to a son. The company’s success still depends largely on the patent that I took out. The same with a copyright. Suppose I write a book and get paid a royalty from the publisher. I die and will the royalty-payment to a widow or children. If they were dependent on the royalties as a source of income before my death, they would be even more so afterwards.

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Brigadon May 23, 2012 at 16:05

@Eric-

That actually embarks into an entirely different area.

Is it ethical to allow your son to inherit your wealth? What about your daughter?

I, for one, say no. Each man has a right, privilege, and responsibility to rise or fall on his own. I think inheritance is a twisted attempt to keep your offspring ‘children’ forever.

The only things that have value are those things which you, yourself have earned. handing your offspring the keys to paradise makes them worthless, and has given rise to the ‘entitlement’ mentality that has parked us in the bind we are in now.

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will May 23, 2012 at 18:02

GBFM

However for the reasons stated above. Neither ideas or digital products can be considered property as they are neither scarce nor tangible. Property is for the purposes of protecting what is scarce and tangible which unlike ideas or digital products not infinitely reproducible. You should read the book “against intellectual monopoly” to inform your opinion. They were of the same opinion as you are until they read that book.

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Anonymous May 23, 2012 at 18:41

GBFM–I assume you are aware that the Mises institute is against copyright. http://mises.org/daily/4848

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cliff May 23, 2012 at 20:51

You hit the nail on the head! I always thought affirmative action was
a policy to keep down ambitious white working-class males and keep privilege in the family.

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continent May 24, 2012 at 22:01

@ American,
ou might have reasons to trying to perpetuate the term “Gender-Raunch”, but it’s like reinventing the wheel. Most people who are not MRA lose reading the message trying to figure out the term.
Rush Limbaugh several years ago used the term “Femi-Nazi” which he claims was coined by his friend. There are several entries on Internet regarding the term.
Perhaps feminist tried to dilute its impact by founding of Feminazi party.
http://feminazi.org/

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Brigadon May 25, 2012 at 18:18

watch, this time next year sluts are going to try and ‘re-claim’ the word feminazi.

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Pops May 25, 2012 at 18:23

We could be having the exact same discussion based on these articles. I think that Price should write such an article to show that he is not excluding the plight of non-white men in this struggle:

http://www.jewelwoods.com/node/9

http://isites.harvard.edu/icb/icb.do?keyword=k74757&pageid=icb.page414111

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124320675

http://www.uptownnotes.com/yes-virginia-there-is-black-male-privilege/

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Baldwin of Jerusalem May 28, 2012 at 06:49

I went and read the 2 Scalzi pieces mention, and that dude is a mangina of the highest order. An uber-mangina, if you will. He reminds me of a character in the book “Centennial” who was fascinated with American Indians. Despite being repeatedly robbed by them, he kept blaming the white man for corrupting them. It was pretty funny.

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James May May 30, 2012 at 22:32

When I read Scalzi’s smug piece, I was appalled. Science fiction has a legacy that allows one to step aside and look back at one’s own culture to have a new view of it. Think of The Machine Stops or “1984. When the head of the SFWA is himself falling into perceptual traps, and a particularly racist one at that, it’s hard to imagine any real art coming from that most conspicuous cabal. If I were a member of the SFWA, I would’ve told them Scalzi leaves or I do. Clever arguments that attach morality by race have killed and oppressed a lot of people. Sad an SF writer would indulge in it.

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