VAWA Immigration Provisions Face Elimination

by W.F. Price on May 16, 2012

In the reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act, House Republicans removed parts of provisions granting immigrants who gain residence on the basis of marriage the right to claim abuse and then file for permanent residence status without cooperation from their spouses. Ordinarily, if you marry an American and want to become a resident, you have to go through a process that proves your marriage was not simply for the purposes of gaining residence, but actually a bona-fide marriage. The entire process takes a few years, and involves interviews, forms, and other bureaucratic hurdles. Your husband or wife has to cooperate, so if the marriage falls apart quickly, you could face loss of legal residence status and have to leave the US.

However, VAWA provides a loophole. A spouse can claim abuse, and if she has any evidence, such as a police report or medical records, she may be able to leave their husband and still become a permanent resident. Given how easy it is to have American men arrested (all it takes is a phone call and an allegation, and false accusations of domestic violence are rarely if ever punished), this provision is an invitation to make a creative accusation. Additionally, making a police report is a simple matter, and one can say just about anything to the cops. However, what makes it even worse is that the process is confidential. What this means is that a foreign wife can accuse the husband without him even knowing that she is doing so, leaving him no opportunity to defend himself. Furthermore, he cannot access any of the information submitted to the federal government in an effort to defend himself in civil or criminal court, nor can he submit evidence to the Department of Homeland Security, which leaves the alleged victim free to say whatever she wants, whether it is consistent with local court affidavits or not. This setup stacks the deck so heavily against the accused that it’s practically asking immigrant women to accuse their husbands of domestic violence.

Of course, MSM editorials have mainly weighed in against the proposed changes. From the LA Times:

Eliminating the confidentiality provision is one of several changes House Republicans would like to make to weaken the law. They argue that the changes are necessary to combat fraud, in which immigrants falsely claim to have been abused in order to obtain visas. But where are the data and studies that indicate that fraud is a problem? Immigrant victims who petition for visas under VAWA are already required to supply ample evidence of abuse, such as police reports or medical records. And applications undergo intense scrutiny. In fiscal 2011, immigration officials denied nearly a third of those petitions.

You’ve got to love the logic here. The writer says fraud must not be a problem, because one third of these petitions are denied!

Because the war on violence against women is such a high priority in our country and feminism has enormous political power, women are usually given the benefit of the doubt. Can anyone imagine what would happen if the local police stopped responding to domestic dispute calls without clear evidence? There’d be enormous outrage from the usual quarters. So, if a third of the women claiming to have been abused are facing rejection, it’s a pretty clear sign that there’s a lot of fraud going on. It means a whole lot of them are lying. Given the numbers, a whole lot of them must be getting away with it, too.

The Republicans are right to remove the confidentiality provisions, because it’s important for officials to hear both sides of the story, and the accused should always have the opportunity to defend themselves from being placed on a government blacklist. Neither men nor women have a monopoly on truth, but the VAWA confidentiality provision effectively grants just that to whichever spouse decides to file a petition. Removing it is a small, but helpful step in both family law and immigration reform.

Examples and more information about VAWA immigration fraud can be found here. For an example of a typical case, this story is a good read.

To put things in perspective, immigration fraud is not the usual outcome in international marriages, but it is enough of a problem to be worth dealing with.

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meistergedanken May 16, 2012 at 07:30

“House Republicans removed parts of provisions granting immigrants who gain residence on the basis of marriage the right to claim abuse and then file for permanent residence status without cooperation from their spouses. ”
“The Republicans are right to remove the confidentiality provisions,…”

Yes, I did address this in my [unpublished] article: mounting proof that Republicans and Democrats are NOT exactly the same, and NOT equally harmful to the average man’s interests.

The brothas need to ponder this deeply before pulling the lever for Obama in November…

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Jim May 16, 2012 at 07:37

VAWA needs to NEVER be reauthorized period.

You hear everyday on the news about obamacare possibly being unconstitutional. VAWA is so unconstitutional it’s sick.

This just goes to show what this cuntry has become.

The fact that VAWA is even DEBATED is a crime.

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Einhard May 16, 2012 at 07:38

Asian women used to marry American men to get a visa and escape their countries for the USA. Now, American men marry Asian women to get their visa and escape the USA. In some ways, China is freer than the US.

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Tom May 16, 2012 at 07:45

Every gold digger from Moscow to Shanghai, knows that you can get a green card *instantly* by coming to the States and claiming DV against your US husband. It’s easy, there is a whole industry of lawyers and social workers helping the “victims”.

For those of you looking for foreign brides: beware!!
It is not a good idea to being her back to the States – not even for a short trip…

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anexpat May 16, 2012 at 07:48

This setup stacks the deck so heavily against the accused that it’s practically asking immigrant women to accuse their husbands of domestic violence.

Of course, this is the goal. It is about American men reaching the conclusion that foreign women are too risky so they have to marry the local beach whales.

American women have become worse and worse in body and attitude and cannot compete with their foreign counterparts. American men marrying foreign women began as a trickle of water but it is becoming a flow.

American women want this to stop so they can monopolize the market with their crappy product. This is only another try to implement protectionism.

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anexpat May 16, 2012 at 07:50

While I was writing my comment. Tom (who everybody knows it’s a woman) has proved my point.

Tom, it’s good to see you again. How’s your menstrual cycle?

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Pirran May 16, 2012 at 08:11

Sadly, I believe this provision still exists in the UK (and is exploited remorselessly).

I think I’ll move to Mars. Less Oxygen, but less hassle…

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keyster May 16, 2012 at 08:47

…mounting proof that Republicans and Democrats are NOT exactly the same, and NOT equally harmful to the average man’s interests.

There are MRA’s who believe Republicans are actually WORSE for men, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Their disdain for Conservative principles blinds them. If it weren’t for Sen. Scott Brown being elected in Nov 2010, we’d have the Pay Check Fairness Act right now…cloture vote, straight across party lines…by ONE vote.

Liberal MRA’s believe the movement should be strictly apolitical.
They want to ignore the fact that EVERYTHING is political, if you want to get anything done.

———-

My neighbor from Venezuela married an American guy for about 8 months, and then claimed he was abusing her. She was denied
citizenship and has been living here on a non-immigrant work visa ever since. She admitted it was a scam to become a citizen.

Her ex-husband’s (white-knight) best friend let’s her live with him for free. I thought maybe she at least cooked and cleaned for him, but she does nothing but sit and watch telenovelas all day. He takes her out to dinner (she’s a horrible cook) and he does the house chores on weekends. He likes the company. She has to go back to Venezuela once a year, and he’s a like lost child without her.

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Okrahead May 16, 2012 at 09:13

The Constitutional right to confront one’s accuser should trump any concerns about fraud. Legally it should. Morally it should. Ethically it should. Logically it should. Since it is what should happen based on legal, moral, ethical and logical principles, obviously it is inconsistent with feminist principles and is thus doomed to failure.

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Kevin May 16, 2012 at 09:45

Very interesting. The rabbit hole is always deeper than I think.

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Kuraje May 16, 2012 at 09:46

Step 1: Make American women the enemy of American men.
Step 2: Make foreign women the enemy of American men.
Step 3: Make it such that American men can’t leave the country.

I don’t foresee this ending well.

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J May 16, 2012 at 09:56

Man, there is no suprise here. Either we become them, battle in politics; or we leave them, expat or something else.

Both options suck! What you gonna do? Stay and fight, stay and piss and moan about it, or leave?

There are few if any options.

That comment about Tom’s menstrual cycle, PRICELESS!

@Okrahead,

Makes you wonder does’nt it? We all know they can’t be that dumb, so they must know what they are doing!

By they, I mean the few radical lezbos posing as feminists like sauron from LOTRs, a bunch of estrogen touting super ogres(read vast army of voting heroic single-moms); and the “acting manginas” who must take lessons from Alec Baldwin on how to fool people into thinking they care. Namely the politicians who have supported them.

The fact that their Republican backers are leaving them has nothing to do with us! They will just tool us until they can find greener pastures.

If we don’t take over politiccs, I fear we are still going to be “ruled.” By witholding are rights to be head of our households, and leaving it to our obviously lesser capable female counterparts, they get ta from both halves of the populace, andget to take what’s left from the one half who does pay in cash, blood, sweat, and toil!

We got issues brother, serious issues, and we “inherited” this moral economy from our fathers, while biotches get to spend the stimulus paackage on gucci and jimmi choos!

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Donkey May 16, 2012 at 09:58

VAWA is so unconstitutional it is sickening, but so is so much the federales do.

The constitution is only honored in its breech.

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J May 16, 2012 at 09:58

*they get “taxes” from both halves*

And like Sauron in his ivory tower!*

Missed that?

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Annonymous May 16, 2012 at 10:19

Stupid and dumb ass White Knights have persistently reauthourised VAWA, not knowing the immigration scamming ho

1
Claimed domestic violence falsely, whilst getting spousal support and other victims goodies, meanwhile living in her stooge’s home and property, from where he was excluded …

2.
Achieved fast-track citizenship, on the back of her false domestic violence claims, then promptly divorced her stooge citing unreasonable and violent behaviour. Things for which she is given more free money and property stolen and confisicated for her.

3.
Herself sponsored the immigration and settlement Visa applications for the other thugs, crooks and un-charted foreigners of her own culture. That is, all on the stolen material credetials and paper accreditations aquired off her initial fraud.

… Think: Nasti-fat-liar-Diallo’s successful job on American immigration and naturalisation, BEFORE she was exposed as a stinking fraud by DSK.

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LysanderSpooner May 16, 2012 at 10:30

Republicans……..eff them.

Democrats should just be executed. After a speedy trial, of course, we wouldn’t want to deny them their rights, even if they have denied us of ours.

I actually would vote for the Vlad treatment, yes, Ol’ Dracula preferred impalement, we could line Pennsylvania Avenue with the bunch of them.

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walking in hell May 16, 2012 at 10:53

“However, VAWA provides a loophole. A spouse can claim abuse, and if she has any evidence, such as a police report or medical records, she may be able to leave their husband and still become a permanent resident. Given how easy it is to have American men arrested (all it takes is a phone call and an allegation, and false accusations of domestic violence are rarely if ever punished),”

How absolutely disgraceful and degrading that an American Man has to worry about this. Is there no low to which the forces that conspire against him go? There he is, starry eyed for his new Romanian bride; then comes the police, barging into his home and hauling him off to jail because he supposedly “hit” his wife. The brave policeman gives his Romanian bride a personal contact number, “just in case” she is “threatened” again.

The next week she has his house and a new policeman boyfriend. She tells all her buddies about it on a Romanian website. Her buddies begin to try the same scam.

Guys, the odds are so against you why try? Expat, expat, expat. Go to a country where the woman are actively managed or manage themselves.

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walking in hell May 16, 2012 at 11:00

“The Republicans are right to remove the confidentiality provisions, because it’s important for officials to hear both sides of the story, and the accused should always have the opportunity to defend themselves from being placed on a government blacklist. ”

Isn’t it sad that this is the “victory hope” of the day for us beaten down men? And the removal of the provisions is not even a done deal.

Guys, because the country is already so gone for men; because women vote and men usually follow how their women want them to vote; because misandry has been entrenched for the last 40 years; because people in general are too stupid to grasp the long-term consequences of the way things are going: expat, expat, expat.

I want to meet friends here with expat interests; especially those who have good things to say about a particular country; or specifically interested in founding a new town or small nation in order to get away from this shit.

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keyster May 16, 2012 at 11:01

If we don’t take over politiccs, I fear we are still going to be “ruled.” By witholding are rights to be head of our households, and leaving it to our obviously lesser capable female counterparts,…

The fact that the religious (especially blacks), think gay marriage is a moral afront to the institution, reveals how little they know about gender politics. Careerist, “independent”, empowered, solipsistic, entitlement princesses with concepts like “starter marriages” and “single moms by choice” are ruining marriage.

Government IS the problem. As long as women feel as though government is neccesary to enforce a biased “gender parity”, because they have “special needs” and deserve protection…and they support the politicians that promise them this…government will be the enemy of men and marriage. That’s where the real fight is.

The day a politician publicly states that any legislation particular to one gender violates the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th amendment, will be the day Feminist Governance falls. Who has the money, guts and political will to take this to the Supreme Court?

Right now Republicans won’t touch it because they’re scared shitless of the Feminist PR Machine; choose your battles wisely and all that.
Perhaps after November…

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Reality May 16, 2012 at 11:25

“China is freer than the US.”

You got that right. I read that if you choose to iniate a divorce over there, the only thing you leave with is the clothes on your back.. and no, you don’t take the kids either! Plus if you’re caught making a false accusation of any kind at all, you recieve the same punishment the accused would have recieved!!!!!!!!! Now THAT’S the way it should be!

I know that China limits families to one child & all and is a totalitarian state, but that’s what makes the comparison even MORE insane.. is the fact that FREAKING CHINA- known as THE most tyrannical, totalitarian government on EARTH even has far more SANE and equitable laws than THE U.S. in regards to marriage/divorce/child custody etc. You see what I’m saying here? We are living in a nightmarish family system that even CHINA considers to be insane!! Truly 1984ish.

As far as I know they don’t interfere with the way you raise your children either. In other words, no CPS or constant threat of someone coming into your HOME and stealing your children simply because you swatted Jr.’s ass too hard. They aren’t concerned with how you raise them – that’s your business and the way it should be. Or what goes on between you or your wife. Sure, they’ll come take away your kids if you have more than one or whatever. (ha) But you know what? I would GLADLY make the sacrifice of being limited to only one child just to have their sane family/divorce laws. Now THAT is just SAD.

So just remind all the blue pillers of that next time the subject comes up- that despite the one child policy, we have a far, FAR more totalitarian family court system overall than CHINA!

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Reality May 16, 2012 at 11:26

“China is freer than the US.”

You got that right. I read that if you choose to iniate a divorce over there, the only thing you leave with is the clothes on your back.. and no, you don’t take the kids either! Plus if you’re caught making a false accusation of any kind at all, you recieve the same punishment the accused would have recieved!!!!!!!!! Now THAT’S the way it should be!

I know that China limits families to one child & all and is a totalitarian state, but that’s what makes the comparison even MORE insane.. is the fact that FREAKING CHINA- known as THE most tyrannical, totalitarian government on EARTH even has far more SANE and equitable laws than THE U.S. in regards to marriage/divorce/child custody etc. You see what I’m saying here? We are living in a nightmarish family system that even CHINA considers to be insane!! Truly 1984ish.

As far as I know they don’t interfere with the way you raise your children either. In other words, no CPS or constant threat of someone coming into your HOME and stealing your children simply because you swatted Jr.’s ass too hard. They aren’t concerned with how you raise them – that’s your business and the way it should be. Or what goes on between you or your wife. Sure, they’ll come take away your kids if you have more than one or whatever. (ha) But you know what? I would GLADLY make the sacrifice of being limited to only one child just to have their sane family/divorce laws. Now THAT is just SAD.

So just remind all the blue pillers of that next time the subject comes up- that despite the one child policy, we have a far, FAR more totalitarian family court system overall than CHINA!

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walking in hell May 16, 2012 at 12:03

To really make any progress for men in America, a very strong leader would have to rise from the ashes; a new political party would have to be formed, the “mens” party; the party would have to be captive to the new leader.

The leader would have a purge list that he would put into effect overnight. Basically, he would purge (execute) all misandric leaders out of the government. Most importantly, he would declare all family courts illegal and declare all family court judgements null and void. Then he would have to make it a national guarantee, that all children from any union, are the property of the man–forever.

Guys, will this ever happen? Of course not. The realistic scenario is that each generation gets successively worse, and that men are driven more and more into slavery, with a new “ugly” surprise for men always just around the corner. Men will become more and more marginalized. That is how it has been.

And then what? When the population is in drastic decline: maybe mandatory sperm donations. And if some bitch chooses your sperm, then mandatory child support payments. I can imagine men beaten down so low, they would cheer to have their sperm chosen and “welcome” the opportunity to become “responsible” fathers.

Your gift in return: a few hours visitation a month to your offspring (Pay per View). Call it the S&M society (Sperm and Money). Sound far-fetched? It’s not far from reality now.

Truly, in America, we live in very bleak times. Expat, expat, expat.

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Highwasp May 16, 2012 at 12:23

(tweedle-dee-dee) Obama says to (tweedle-dee-dumb) Republicans;

dee-dee; ‘if you will help me get re-elected this year I goddamnguarantee you will win the next presidency.’

dee-dumb; ‘what do you mean?’

dee-dee; ‘You demand restrictions on VAWA and be the big bad Evil Patriarchy that seeks to subjugate women and minorities everywhere. That will make me look good by comparison and will help sway the vote of the femenemies, minorities, manginas and all self loving parasites who feed off my Gov’t. to my favor.’

dee-dumb; ‘uh huh – we scratch yours – you scratch ours – how do we know you’ll step down after this second term Why should we help you?’

dee-dee; ‘Hell! Where’s those pesky man-slaves with our drinks? uh – I won’t have to step down – the system will collapse by the end of my second term – as intended and by design. I will be the president concerned for the well being all women, not just white women, all women everywhere – who can fault me for that?I will defend ‘Our Country’ from the like of the Evil Patriarchy – uh that’s you republicans – then I will expand VAWA and many other entitlement programs in the next term, growing our Gov’t past the breaking point – by the time my second term is over our current system will have collapsed – the country will need a leader who can rebuild. Who better to do that than you Evil Patriarchy Republicans? Take Reagan for example…or not. Anyway – it will be just like history repeating itself you all are just the heros to do it… build it back up any way you want. It’ll be wide open…’

dee-dumb; ‘boyhowdy! Yeah! I like it. And If I have my say I say – You gotcherself a deal! Now let’s get high over at the Wahini Bikini Cabana party. I hear those Mai Tais calling me now…’

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Brigadon May 16, 2012 at 14:42

Anything to expand obama’s voting base.

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Troll King May 16, 2012 at 16:09

Well, Amanda Marcotte is royally pissed about it.

http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/the-abuser-lobby-goes-mainstream

She calls MRAs the abuser lobby.

Kinda amusing that she makes false accusations about a entire group of men in her argument about defending VAWA.

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Ted May 16, 2012 at 17:11

“The leader would have a purge list that he would put into effect overnight. Basically, he would purge (execute)”

Thanks for telling us what you really mean by “purge”, walking in hell. Otherwise, I might have taken it to mean something less lethal than your insinuation.

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Johnycomelatley May 16, 2012 at 18:15

The best case of fraud I have seen was when an acquaintance used teeth marks on her forearm to prove violence ( they were hefty bite marks) the cops used dental imprints to prove she actually bit herself!

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Eric May 16, 2012 at 18:48

anexpat:
Tom did make one point worth noting: there IS an underground economy, run by the same American sickos and slimy trial-lawyers who game the system here, to cut deals with foreign nationals to come here and sue for divorce.

I agree that it’s better to marry foreign, but men really need to exercise caution has to how they go about it. Immigrant women already here are a good option. If she’s already been exposed to feminised culture and rejects it, she’s a really good choice. Another way is to vacation in other countries, or meet some women online before visiting. Just don’t rush into anything, and it should work out alright.

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Eric May 16, 2012 at 18:53

Keyster:
If we had a legitimate government, VAWA would never have been enacted in the first place. It’s the consequence of a dumb-downed democracy where events like the OJ Trial set the yardstick for public policy.

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Eric May 16, 2012 at 19:01

Reality:
Also a little-known factoid about China: I’ve heard reports that Chinese women would gladly see the ‘one-child policy’ repealed and many would like to see abortion outlawed completely. One reason that a lot of Chinese women want to expat themselves is so that they can raise families without government inference.

Maybe what our politicians should do is start exporting American women to China, in exchange for an equivalent number of Chinese women who want to come here. In two decades, China would collapse as a superpower, and America would be on top again.

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Ted May 16, 2012 at 19:14

“Maybe what our politicians should do is start exporting American women to China, in exchange for an equivalent number of Chinese women ”

If you did it by the metric tonne, the US would have very favorable terms of trade.

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Eric May 16, 2012 at 19:42

Ted:
Yeah…unfortunately we’d probably have to subsidize the Chinese shipping industry to make it completely fair. But the trade-off would be that it would open up a whole new market in China for fast-food and psychiatric drugs and we could export those too. Within a few years, China would already be showing a trade-deficit with us.

Meanwhile, feminism would be dragging them down the toilet faster than their bureaucracy could stop it; while the ‘Tiger Moms’ over here were cleaning house on the manginas and the public schools.

You know, originally I was joking about this, but now I’m beginning to wonder… Any entreprenuerially-minded MRAs getting the same idea? Maybe we can turn that VAWA/false accusation thing around on them; save our Republic, and make a profit too! LOL

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evilwhitemalempire May 16, 2012 at 22:24

The Republicans are right to remove the confidentiality provisions, because it’s important for officials to hear both sides of the story, and the accused should always have the opportunity to defend themselves from being placed on a government blacklist.
*************

now enter the “right’s every bit as bad as the left” retards

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evilwhitemalempire May 16, 2012 at 22:40

The brothas need to ponder this deeply before pulling the lever for Obama in November…
**************

or before not pulling at all, as most probably will

i ask every leftist anti-fem not to vote FOR republicans or vote AGAINST democrats

somewhere in your district is some single mom skank

perhaps you saw her at the supermarket or the mall laughing loudly with her skank friends in your general direction

anyway you know full well who she’s gonna vote for in november and why

BUT you have the power to stop her!

and by perfectly legal means

on november you can walk in that booth and pull that lever for republican and EXACTLY cancel out her vote!

even if you don’t believe in the democratic process you can at least vote to stop them from voting

am i right?

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Eric May 17, 2012 at 01:08

Evilwhitemaleempire:

‘Now enter the ‘right’s every bit as bad as the left retards.’

Does that include the retard Bush Junior who signed VAWA into law in the first place?

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Eric May 17, 2012 at 01:29

Troll King:
‘Amanda Marcotte is totally pissed about it.’

Amerobitch anger is the barometer of truth.

One thing Ms. Princess didn’t mention is all the ‘lobbying’ that her mangina allies in the Democratic Party are getting from the trial lawyers.

Here’s how this VAWA provision that Ms. Sassy-Ass wants to protect really operates: the same types of scummy trial-lawyers who pay bums to stage accidents, and thugs to provoke incidents with the police, make contact with their natural allies in Organized Crime abroad. In countries where Organized Crime has a strong presence, they charge a fee to a female who wants to emigrate and who wants to receive the benefit of their ‘inside connections.’ Afterwards, it’s easy. They arrange a marriage, either through a bogus agency, (or using a legitimate one as an unwitting accomplice), instructs the female to claim abuse and gives her the contact number of a slimy lawyer in the area where she’s going. Not knowing any better, (because she comes from a culture where corruption is the normal way of doing business), she signs an agreement to turn over to the Shylock a percentage of the divorce settlement considerably higher than the normal ‘contigency fees’ these jackasses would charge for an American divorce. If they win, she still comes out with a cash payout, and US citizenship, and the shyster laughs all the way to the bank.

The actual males who are ‘exploiting’ foreign women are not MRAs looking for a decent relationship: it’s lowlife gangsters like the foreign mafias and the American Bar Association. But we’ll hear no criticism of them from the feminists.

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Ray May 17, 2012 at 02:32

The Violence Against Women Act has long been a cornerstone in the feminist fraud and corruption that has been perpetrated against untold numbers of innocent men as shown in “Los Misandry” and “Witch-Hunting Males” at Youtube.
http://tinyurl.com/27oh7cp
http://tinyurl.com/65dpzwu
Bringing this misandrist piece of legislation into full accountability is long overdue. For the full time that it has been in existence, VAWA has been little more than a thinly veiled front for a hate movement that operates in the name of feminism. The real, violent batterers are those vile, feminist based, scam artists who’ve authored and supported VAWA.

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LBK May 17, 2012 at 05:05

Getting married is the worst mistake a man can make. Don’t marry an American woman. Don’t marry a foreign woman. The wise choice is to stay single.

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Poester99 May 17, 2012 at 06:29

The leader would have a purge list that he would put into effect overnight. Basically, he would purge (execute) all misandric leaders out of the government. Most importantly, he would declare all family courts illegal and declare all family court judgements null and void. Then he would have to make it a national guarantee, that all children from any union, are the property of the man–forever.

*wtf*… yeah just like Stalin, he really got stuff done!! Crack a few eggs and all that… with eggs being 20+ million people murdered to “fix” things…
You wrote a nice money quote for the “people” watching and then stuck in a disclaimer way after.

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freebird May 17, 2012 at 08:18

If she claims DV you had better be able to prove yourself innocent.
She gets off scot free on the false accusation, whilst you pay dearly for an “officer of the court.”

Huge money in busting up families!

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ahamkara May 17, 2012 at 08:24

@walking in hell

“The leader would have a purge list that he would put into effect overnight. Basically, he would purge (execute) all misandric leaders out of the government. Most importantly, he would declare all family courts illegal and declare all family court judgements null and void. Then he would have to make it a national guarantee, that all children from any union, are the property of the man–forever.”

It is tempting to think this way, because realistically, what else could loosen the death grip that feminism has on family courts?

I would not want this kind of solution for America though. I would rather leave than see it come to that. For one, I don’t want the government deciding who is and isn’t “misandric”, because that gun can be pointed at anyone for any reason if put into the wrong hands. It’s the government, after all.

As for ownership of children, I would have to argue for equality there since I have a son and a daughter. I want to be able to see all of my grandchildren. But if there’s one thing I learned from my divorce, it’s that you have to take the polar opposite position of women if you want any hope of ending up in the middle. So maybe that’s not such a bad position to take after all.

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Szebran May 17, 2012 at 09:42

Here is an article discussing this provision and a group called National Coalition for Men which is fighting against feminist in order the change the law.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/annanorth/violence-against-women-act-gives-mens-rights-it

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Anonymous age 70 May 17, 2012 at 09:45

@walking in hell May 16, 2012 at 11:00

>>I want to meet friends here with expat interests; especially those who have good things to say about a particular country; or specifically interested in founding a new town or small nation in order to get away from this shit.

Over the years, other man have had this idea. Tempting, but no cigar. You simply cannot get any number of men to agree on ANYTHING long enough to actually build a new town just for them. Guaranteed someone will mess things up, perhaps even get everyone arrested.

My own view as an expat is it takes cojones to expat. If you don’t have cojones enough to expat alone, you don’t have cojones enough to expat at all.

There was a man on DGM-2/3, who had the same exact idea. He talked it up for several years. Big talk, in fact.

Finally, he and his Mexican wife actually made the move. In a couple weeks, they were back to stay.

His reasons were somewhere between uninformed and asinine. I forget exactly, but he saw the looks on women’s face when dirty manual laborers walked by. He imagined this meant feminists had taken over Mexico. With no idea that hypergamy has always existed.

I forget the other trivial incident that caused him to conclude Mexico was as feminist as the US, but it was as lame. Several of us thought it was actually his wife and kids who made the decision they didn’t want to live in Mexico.

So, not only couldn’t he attract other men; he was also incapable of expatting.

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Anonymous age 70 May 17, 2012 at 10:04

@walking in hell May 16, 2012 at 11:00

>>I want to meet friends here with expat interests; especially those who have good things to say about a particular country; or specifically interested in founding a new town or small nation in order to get away from this shit.

Places to live are like all personal decisions. I happen to live Mexico, I want to live here the rest of my life and want my bones to rest here.

But, others will not find it as nice as I do. PI suits a lot of people; for me, too many bugs; too much heat; too much sweat. Thailand also suits many, same defects for me.

I do find much more personal freedom and liberty here in Mexico than in the US. It is male friendly, but it is still possible to screw things up. My niece’s ‘husband’ graduated with a J.D.; and a Ph. D. from a well known prestigious university in the US. He is still stupid.

He married a Mexican woman, his first mistake. When she wanted a divorce, he gave it to her, his second big mistake. He hasn’t said but he whines about high child support payments, and my guess is he was being the noble guy, and agreed to it, for the benefit of his son, then his fortunes changed. His third big mistake. Yet, he insists Mexico’s divorce system is as bad as the US.

Some of the things that have happened, my guess is his arrogant, know-it-all attitude pissed his attorney off, and the attorney has worked hard to screw him up, while taking his money. Or, he simply refuses to listen to his attorney. No good Mexican attorney would have told him to marry; nor tell him to agree to a divorce; nor tell him to agree to pay child support beyond the bare minimum.

Yet, he has said some very insulting things to me when I commented the divorce laws here are much more sane. So, I let him enjoy his misery.

The point is, you can screw up any country if you are not alert.

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Prof. Woland May 17, 2012 at 10:21

Having a foreign bride myself, I can attest that 99% of these women communicate openly on internet forums where these types of scams are freely discussed among all the other topics. The fact that one woman has tried this means that the rest of them all know about it. Since it is the smart, young, ambitious women that end up here we should not be surprised that some of them end up using / abusing our immigration laws. Even though the success rate of foreign marriages is much better than domestic marriages, not all them will work out.

I have yet to meet a feminist who was really happy with the fact that I went to Russia to marry a young attractive woman. Some people are truly glad for me that I ended up doing so well but with some others the resentment is palpable. The mewling about how these vulnerable immigrant women need protection belies the fact that they cannot come to grips with the fact that their own sexual power has been completely circumvented. I think who the feminists are really trying to protect is themselves.

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Brad May 17, 2012 at 10:30

Democrats won’t accept this, as Democrats know that immigrants who commit fraud will vote for them. Wouldn’t it be great if VAWA couldn’t get reauthorized at all because Republicans and Democrats won’t compromise? That is a very real possibility. Speaker Boehner is already on a short leash and probably can’t get away with passing the Democrat version with the support of Dems and RINOs like the Senate did.

By the way, the Senators who voted for VAWA are well-known RINOs. Not one conservative in the Senate voted for VAWA. We were betrayed as usual by the likes of McCain and Snowe. The sad thing is that people equate the 2 parties because of those RINOs who betray conservative principles in the name of bipartisanship.

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Reality May 17, 2012 at 10:55

I was listening to the radio and they were talking about how VAWA had passed with some alterations. And then it was “and now in other news..” and some bullshit about Romney, ad nauseum. And I realized, what in the HELL does anything else even fucking matter when you can be arrested (and probably end up convicted) with nothing more than a pointed finger? And it’s been this way for almost TWENTY YEARS. That’s what they should be discussing for 24/7 on the news – not something someone said about Ann Romney’s dress.

I mean alright, there’s economy – that’s probably the only bigger issue- but even then I’m not really sure. I mean so we end up ‘saving’ our country somehow miraculously (don’t see how that’s going to happen btw) so what… ? So we can ‘save’ this totalitarian police state/rip off/legal extortion system? I don’t want to see any of it ‘saved.’

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Eric May 17, 2012 at 12:25

Prof. Woland:

Spot on. If all of these feminised women were as unconcerned with men and male sexuality as they pretend, they wouldn’t those of us whom they don’t want are leaving them alone. As usual, the opposite of what they say is the real truth: so far from disconcern with male sexuality, they are actually obsessed with it.

Understanding that fact explains their mania for controlling male sexuality. They all know that their own sexual value decreases as male alternatives increase. What feminist women in our culture really desire is a monopoly on male sexuality, not its ‘reformation’ or elimination, as they pretend.

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Eric May 17, 2012 at 12:31

Reality:
Well, we really didn’t expect much else. The same Teabaggers who were bragging in 2010 about ‘the Conservative Year of the Woman’ were certainly going to cave to the Socon Sisterhood. Remember they backed supposed ‘anti-feminist’ candidates like Christine O’Donnell who wanted to outlaw masturbation!

A bunch of pedestal-worshipping manginas, no matter how the PR Machine spins it.

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Matt May 17, 2012 at 17:15

Eric conservatives are your natural allies, NACALT . I am a Teapartier, I am for LIMITED Government in ALL areas of our lives. I am on your side. I agree that conservative candidates do pander to the feminists, but that is changing. Work with us, don’t bash us.

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Matt May 17, 2012 at 17:17

Brad You are spot on. Eric, we don’t have popular culture on our side yet.. it is going to take a long march to come back.

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piercedhead May 17, 2012 at 18:22

So we can ‘save’ this totalitarian police state/rip off/legal extortion system? I don’t want to see any of it ‘saved.’

Which do you think is the most likely to succeed?

1) Change your nation and its laws so thoroughly that it is finally to your satisfaction

OR

2) Spend a small amount of money going somewhere else where men are not jailed on an unsubstantiated charge?

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American May 17, 2012 at 20:01

VAWA is the most massive organised perversion to the American legal system in decades.
Many perverts in the American gender-Raunch establishment are empowering themselves from the manufactured statistics Alliance between gender-Raunch and American law enforcement.
The American Gender-Raunch establishment think that they are being sneaky by creating this perversion Alliance with American law enforcement; (And many American are un-aware of this perverse Alliance), but many countries overseas may take notice of this perverse Alliance, and its perverse Empowerment of one group over all others.

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American May 17, 2012 at 20:04

Matt, gender-Raunch culture has to completely destroy itself before the American Masses will see beyond the “media Gender-raunch spin” of how marvelous the matriarchy is.

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evilwhitemalempire May 17, 2012 at 22:52

eric

Does that include the retard Bush Junior who signed VAWA into law in the first place?
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as an anti-feminist it never occurs to me to place my jealousy for those who make more money than me, drive a better car, live in a bigger house, etc. BEFORE men’s rights

cherry pick all you want

compared to liberal politicians conservative ones (including the bush retard) are practically mra’s

they’re not much but they’re all we’ve got in washington

you leftist anti-fems can either continue playing the worlds smallest fiddle while rome burns to the ground or you can pull your head out of your ass and do something this november that won’t make you rich but just might (just MAYBE) help male posterity

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evilwhitemalempire May 17, 2012 at 23:33

Remember they backed supposed ‘anti-feminist’ candidates like Christine O’Donnell who wanted to outlaw masturbation!
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really!?

do you have any idea just how impractical such a law would be to enforce?

no, socon females aren’t our friends (but evidently, gender raunch feminists are because most of them are cool with the idea of us pulling our tallywackers)

so?

you don’t think folks like myself or keyster get sick of hearing socon females say “don’t hate men because they’re useful” ?

that you would take an anti-masturbation quote made by a socon female 20 years ago and interpret it to mean that stopping us from jerking off to porn is priority uno for the right just goes to show how determined you are to not see things clearly

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Paul Murray May 17, 2012 at 23:37

Before you get all enthusiastic about chinese women, go see http://ihatehongkong2.wordpress.com/ .

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evilwhitemalempire May 18, 2012 at 00:15

scratch the surface of any leftist anti-fem and you are almost guaranteed to find race or class issues that they have placed in front of men’s rights

OR they would see the right for what it really is

a viable political vehicle that just needs the edges chipped off

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American May 18, 2012 at 10:05

Many in the white gender-feminist community are completely insulated from the violent matriarchal underclass of un-educated laborers that they speak so highly of.

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Eric May 18, 2012 at 14:07

Matt & Evilwhiteempire:

I agree that the Tea Party has POTENTIAL viabilty for advancing men’s rights. The problem is that you need more than just ‘the edges of the movement chipped off.’ You guys need to start repudiating mangina pundits like Sean Hannity and Thomas Fleming, for starts.

Maybe a good solution would be to recruit more younger guys into the movement. The guys who’ve grown up under feminism and felt its effects more keenly might be more inclined to disavow some of the tendencies in Conservatism for pedestalizing.

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Matt May 18, 2012 at 20:27

Eric, I am 50 and it took me 25 years to let go of white knighting. someday I will tell my story. I agree with you wholeheartedly about getting young men involved. I cringe when I see the pedestaling from people on my side of the aisle. I learned what women were about when I was 21. But the programming was hard to un-do and I took the red pill after I started reading alternative media.

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evilwhitemalempire May 18, 2012 at 22:27

You guys need to start repudiating mangina pundits like Sean Hannity and Thomas Fleming, for starts.
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leftist ideology is to supplicative, white knight, manginism as steroids are to muscles
heap of difference between an ideologically driven white knight and one that is purely organic

here’s a better idea

use the hannities and flemings of the world to help stop the obamas and the bidens of the world

THEN we can deal with the hannities and flemings unimpeded by the former

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Brian January 18, 2013 at 07:26

I am a victim of on of these fraud claims by my immigrant ex spouse. She lies and was caught and I agree with seeking the bill both sides of the story should be heard by USCIS.. Then after getting you on a false claim they want I864 support. And since when should the rights of a immigrant come before a us citizen. I think USCIS should
interview both parties except and only if there is clear evidence of abuse. There a lot of websites that show woman how to file false claims. An example is http://www.Russiafiance.com has a section on how to do this so easy and next thing you know you life is screwed

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