“Whore” is Just a Label

by Featured Guest on April 17, 2012

According to ABC News:

Pornography has grown into a $10 billion business — bigger than the NFL, the NBA and Major League Baseball combined — and some of the nation’s best-known corporations are quietly sharing the profits.

The growth of any businesses mean more jobs for workers willing to work in that industry. In this case the workers are liberated young women attracted to the fast money, adulation, and yes … sex of the porn industry. With “slut walks” emphasizing the support of other women that no woman be hampered by negative labels like “slut”, the young women in porn face far less stigma than they ever have. So much so that for that young women the leap from wanton behavior at a drunken college party to getting double teamed followed by a full facial in a porn shoot may not be a far leap at all.

The dollars and cents is that you have a huge growth porn industry demanding a huge number of sex workers who blend invisibly into the population because there is no longer any stigma attached to the world’s oldest profession.

Unlike men women know how to keep a secret. Women don’t brag to their girlfriends, in fact they’ll lie even to themselves. You really have NO IDEA where even that conservative and very virginal girl you’ve proposed to has been until the night she thought she forgot shows up on Youtube.com. Where does that leave an increasing number of American men?

Trying to turn a whore into a housewife.

Yes, there are terrific women out there. But single women are angling for a man to pay for their lives, and given that incentive there’s a huge temptation for a woman to present herself falsely, to tell a lot of lies and to make a lot of “stay at home, cook and raise kids” promises she has no intention of keeping. Under US and ESPECIALLY Canadian divorce laws, women are almost never accountable for bad behavior or broken promises. For all the men who thought their betrothed was only slutty the night she met you and who are steaming mad that you’ve been sold a bill of goods, does the marriage contract needs a “false advertisement” clause?

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Quentin April 17, 2012 at 20:25

A lot of women don’t feel bad abut their sexual escapades. In fact, they take pride in them. “Ladies” are an endangered species, and are on the verge of going extinct. All this slutty behavior has really made me lose interest in women. I don’t want to be with a woman who has had sex with a lot of men. If she is easy to get into the sack, then she is a liability in a relationship. I have lost a lot of respect for women over the past several years. Sex, along with marriage, is something most women view as a get-rich-quick scheme. It is disheartening to think I live in a world where being a whore is considered empowering, while being a supportive wife is frowned upon. This world is upside down. I hear a lot of women complain that men only want them for sex. Well, this is because there are no more wives anymore. The question isn’t “if” most married men will get stabbed in the back, but “when” married men will get stabbed in the back. Women just want to have fun, and a lot of men know it. If you act like a whore, then you are going to get treated like a whore. If women were pleasant to be around and were loyal, more men would probably stick around. You reap what you sow, women.

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J April 17, 2012 at 20:58

LOL, reminds me of the Two and Half men episode where charlie’s character sees his brothers new “wife” 10 years prior with a”baker” in a cheap porno she did. She informs him that he was not “inside” all the time. Yeah, sure he was’nt, and sailors don’t desere their reputation! Maybe we sailor’s know something by expereince most men don’t, or at least are too ashamed to acknowledge!

Fact of the matter is, women want to be in touch with their inner ho, I can attest to the fact as early as my time in middle school! lol They sure start “acting” early! That was the late eighties to early nineties by the way. These “wholesome” little princesses are now parents themselves! Also, like the dumb valley girls they always wanted to be, they can’t help but wonder “why” their daughters act that way infront of their duped husband……….and ask for details when the men are not around!

Men, we have been duped, and now we teach our “youth” read sons, to know what thier sisters, cousins, daughters, mothers really are!

In other words, like us they are human.

Maybe some day family court, the media, and public opinion will extend us the same credit, but lets not all hold our breath!

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jso April 17, 2012 at 21:19

(btw don’t get married)

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Napoleon April 17, 2012 at 21:25

Women these days are increasingly trying to have the best of both worlds and present themselves as wholesome nice girls to the public while hiding a lot of whoring that goes on behind the scenes. There is really no way to know whether a woman is a part-time prostitute or not but a good rule of thumb is to assume that she is until proven otherwise due to the prevalence of such antics.

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Ode April 18, 2012 at 00:09

Not exactly porn related but it does have to do with women and money. At my work during break time there was brief discussion about mail order brides and the men who chase after these women from 3rd world nations. My female co-worker the one with loudest mouth, basically the alpha female within the group, declared “this is exploitation!” The other females all nodded their head in unison. I thought to myself how the hell is this exploitation, it seems like a golden opportunity for these girls who come from countries where the standard salary is $300 a month. Put it this way, the average American woman that makes $30,000 a year would be doing backflips if a man that made $300,000 wanted to marry. Of course my female co- workers fail to see the great irony of this, but I had enough sense to keep my mouth shut for fear of being trampled to death be a horde of heavy footed females.

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Zilchy April 18, 2012 at 01:25

A bit different from the normal “Spearhead” content, but appropiate non the less. The industry being as big as it is should really tell us all something about the human animal in general. It’s an absolute miracle that the institute of marriage lasted as long as it did in the west. All the constraints are off and the true colors are shining through.

Bye-bye social cohesion and the family. I’m actually glad I only have 30+ years left on this planet. My psychy couldn’t possibly handle a longer time frame.

The word “whore” still has some power to it. A gentlemen just has to say it correctly and the right time. It still works!

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Wobs April 18, 2012 at 01:58

“Unlike men women know how to keep a secret.”

So why did Cosmo feel the need to run an article “How to Keep a Secret”?

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Traveller April 18, 2012 at 02:00

Quite the opposite.

It is much easier to find if a girl is a porn star, than if she screwed the football team in college.

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Robert K April 18, 2012 at 03:09

The reality is that no man knows what he is marrying. That most men are happy to take their intended’s claims about themselves at face value shows how stupid we are as a sex. Women google date’s names like nothing else. Most men I have met think it is wrong for them to do the same to women. Christ knows why. That men love their women completely and utterly (as opposed to the other way around) tends to blind us when viewing women they are or want to be in relationships with.

The marriage contract not only needs a false advertising clause, it needs a total re-write. Get rid of no-fault divorce (AKA his fault divorce). make wedding vows legally enforcable. Most of all, make false promotion of oneself to a marriage partner (applicable to men and women alike) a criminal offence. this would not bother men who by and large present themselves faithfully. It would severely disrupt the plans of women whom by and large marry for convenience and money as opposed to love.

But we all know how how that would work out. Governments would never do anything to make the wimminz more accountable.

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AfOR April 18, 2012 at 03:45

BTW girls, porn pays a LOT less than you think it does…..

For every “supermodel” porn actress pulling in 25k a shoot plus 75k royalties on the bluray, there are the apex fallacy sluts getting 50 bucks a shoot and 5% of sales that struggle to reach double figures, and that is the “legit” porn run by men…

the porn run by wimminz, eg MOST OF IT, (trust me, I fucking know, porn were early adopters of ecommerce and streaming tech etc, as they always are early adopters of tech) is MUCH more brutal to the individual wimminz in question… and indeed to the male actors, prompting them to inject their cocks with all sorts of crazy shit to maintain a hardon for the shoot…

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AntZ April 18, 2012 at 04:57

Yes, the marriage contract needs a “false advertisement” clause, but the clause should not warn about women. It should warn about family court. Women (and men) have lied and cheated since before we could talk. What is new is the presumption that husbands are incapable of doing right, and that wives are incapable of doing wrong.

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Doyourownresearch April 18, 2012 at 05:36

No rings for sluts :)

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Anon April 18, 2012 at 06:29

Remember, guys: it takes a lot of practice for a girl to be slutty. The clothes, the makeup, the behaviors – Rome wasn’t built in a day, and neither are sluts.

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Georice81 April 18, 2012 at 06:42

If you get married, try some place like Las Vegas where it is fairly easy to get your marriage annulled due to “fraud”.

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djc April 18, 2012 at 06:44

Simple. Don’t get married.

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SMH April 18, 2012 at 07:17

In the porn industry, women are paid much more than men. Where are the feminists demanding to close the pay gap? *crickets*

Speaking of Marriage contracts…these contracts need a “You’re a man, why the fuck are you getting married?” clause. These contracts need a “Does marriage benefit men at all?” clause. These contracts need a “The groom must see a divorce in Family Court before getting married” clause.

I have a friend that thinks he’s safe from getting raped in Family Court because his wife makes more money than him. The poor, uninformed fool….

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silent April 18, 2012 at 08:47

Old news. But I suppose it bears repeating.

Anymore, it’s important to have two lives, should you be in a relationship.

Your relationship life – sharing your thoughts and dreams and all that bullshit, taking the occasional trip somewhere

Your real life – hidden bank accounts, hidden assets, hidden tax information, hidden vasectomy paperwork (?)

Anything you own should only have your name on it. Car/House/etc.

Just be careful about the super-sweet girlfriend who knows a little too much about how to do that thing you like, without you having taught her. She may have had a mouthful. But hey, maybe it’s all “in the past”.

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MRA April 18, 2012 at 08:49

I know an attractive early 20 Latin single mom of 1 boy, she got a offer from Vivid around 2006-2008 she was 19 or 20 years old at the time, she was offer 30K, yeah 30K, she didn’t accept but Vivid offers the choice to let her pick the actor she wants to participate in the movie with, then she keeps saying no, then Vivid offers to make a lesbian video, she didn’t accept BUT now she regret not accepting the offer specially having economy problems, now she is dating a an american man.

To she is the one called “Venenosa” in this gallery
http://www.supertangas.com/fotos/?level=search&searchterms=Dominican+Republic
She doesn’t look like that now, she got some fat but not that mush to american women she still look good.

Or remember when the same Vivid offered 1 million to the octomom?, Vivid wanted to make an orgy video with the mom banging 8 men.
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2010-03-22/gossip/27059713_1_mortgage-payments-steven-hirsch-vivid-entertainment

According to the porn actor Ron Jeremy, men in porn some times work for free, and when they get money they get just 1000K or just 200 when is a newcomer, when they hire these kinds of girls you just watch in one video and then disappears is because of these “single mom- make-fast-money” offers companies like Vivid is giving to women, when an unknown man is on a movie he is just working for free or 200 while the woman is getting up to 30k, and then Radfem and Andrea Dworkin come saying porn exploits women and is rape.

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keyster April 18, 2012 at 08:59

Feminism empowered young women to freely express their sexuality while embracing their independence from the drudgery of marriage.

Young women in the Sex Worker Industry are merely an expression of liberation from patriarchy and self-actualization as a person.

If young women want to be Sluts or Prostitutes or Porn Stars they can be, and no MAN will be permitted to judge them for their “career choice”. These are strong, attractive, talented women with an entrepreneurial spririt that society should celebrate. It should be what every proud father wants his daughter to aspire to.

This is all the glorious result of Moral Relativism and unfettered female sexual power. It’s what the Hippies of the 60′s wanted.

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Lovekraft April 18, 2012 at 09:30

Also, shows like “Real Housewives” are a blatant attempt to control the debate regarding proper attitudes and behaviors.

Anyone can plainly see that these cougar harridans are the furthest from “real” yet this doesn’t matter to the reality tv industry.

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suspectum April 18, 2012 at 09:36

As many a visitor to SE Asia knows: it is nearly impossible to turn a whore/bargirl/ “slut” into a reliable partner/wife. Once a woman has experienced the ease of receiving goods and payments for sex or emotional “services” such as the “girlfriend experience” she will never again feel the same and will aim to sell her “goods” to the highest bidder. This could result in marriage until a higher bidder comes along or the cost of remaining (her annoyance with having to make a relationship work and actually not being a “princess”) in the marriage is perceived as too high. It doesn’t help that there is also a pull factor of alimony/child support being offered by the state.

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Lucian Cross April 18, 2012 at 10:36

The solution which makes the most sense for men is to simply ignore the contract of marriage whenever it is placed on the table… Or above her tramp stamp whenever a girl bends over proclaiming her love for you….

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LysanderSpooner April 18, 2012 at 11:04

“does the marriage contract needs a “false advertisement” clause?”

Marriage, is a fraudulent contract.

Kinda like “The Land of the Free”, The (S)Elections, The Just-Us System, Endless Wars, The Income Tax, The troops fighting for our freedumb, Feminism, etc.

OT: Was wondering if anyone had any input or what their take is on Barbarrossa’s latest post:

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LysanderSpooner April 18, 2012 at 11:06

Sorry link did not Post:

Barbarossa’s latest posted Vid:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/bq3asJgnY8I

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Eximio April 18, 2012 at 11:40

Well, I feel compelled to find an upside on the porn issue. The slut issue as well.

If a man is rational, he has concluded that marriage has far too much downside to take the risk. But that is not going to erase our sex drive. In a pinch (no pun intended), porn satisfies. But, generally, real sex is needed to fulfill that drive, so that a man can get it off his mind and focus on work and the other things he enjoys.

So, in an ironic sort of way, while gender feminists have ruined marriage and made it a horrible proposition for men that are able to think rationally, they have also provided – entirely by accident – some relief. That relief comes in the form of the sluts and the slutty lifestyle feminist support and promote.

Let them think its female “empowerment” all they want. I don’t really care what she is thinking while my needs are fulfilled.

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nate April 18, 2012 at 12:54

Six months after my divorce I was cleaning the basement and found my ex wife’s diary. I feel somewhat lucky I found at after the divorce, I have never imagined one person (“Christian” woman) could commit so much pre marital and extra marital debauchery. I’ve never had the heart to get a paternity test either.

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YoungMan April 18, 2012 at 13:19

I learned this the hard way. Back in my plugged in days I dated a girl for over a year before I found out she used to play with herself on camera for money. I was incensed I had been taken advantage of like that.

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doclove April 18, 2012 at 13:40

You haven’t even included the many more women who work as sex workers either legal or illegal. They can be strippers, hostesses(common in East Asia) etc. which is usually legal but not always in most countries. They can be street-walker prostitutes, brothel prostitutes, escort preostitutes which is usually illegal but not always in most countries. These women are even more difficult to find out about their past activities than porn workers. There are more of them than porn workers too. There are even more sluts certainly in the West(e.g. USA, Canada, New Zealand, Austrailia, White South Africans and other Western Europeans) and other 1st world nations in East Asia such as Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong and Singapore as well as(not 1st world nationsyet) Eastern Europe. Sluts(amatuers, not professional prostitutes) outnumber the sex workers be they porn workers, prostitutes, strippers hostesses etc.. Some sex workers double as slut too.
I will not tell you that there aren’t horrible periods of lonliness for not having a woman to love for a long time or even better for a lifetime. I will not tell you you won’t miss not having children especially if you desire non bastard legitimate children. However, you could be divorced and paying alimony and giving up your assets. Whether you were married or not you could be paying child support, not seeing your children or being limited in seeing them and having no say how the money is spent on your children. The government insists she has these rights i listed in the 2 previous sentences whether you like it or not. There never needs to be just cause and there hasn’t been for 50 years. You’ll be lonely, upset and poorer for it on her whim alone.

The real problem is she has all the most power when you are married especially if there are children which are legally yours or even if you are not married and you have impregnated her. The government will pummel you the man for the children and the wife and/or mother will be your overseer in very real terms even if the powers that be insist this is not the case by trying to decieve you, others and maybe even themselves. If she did things which made her seem less suitable for marriage to you and she didn’t tell you about that beforehand, then it’s your problem, man. If your wife no matter what she was like before you married refuses to be a good wife or later divorcee, there will be no enforcement of punishing her. You, the man, can and will be punished and be forced to be a a good man in a marriage or divorce no matter how innocent or guilty you are being a good or bad husband or divorcee. Being that the laws and enforcement of laws are designed to punish the man in most circumstances once the marriage dissolves, do you still want to get married?

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Pugs Fugly April 18, 2012 at 13:47

Having spent four years married to a former-stripper, ahem, excuse me, “exotic dancer,” I can say with absolute certainty that there is no turning a whore into a housewife.

The alchemy involved is far above my pay-grade.

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Rapscallion April 18, 2012 at 15:33

brings to mind the lyrics of sage francis:

“my belly feels empty; I want a person there,
I curse and swear and act unmother-like until I persevere,
haven’t been to church in years, but right now that’s the setting/
couldn’t think of a better place to cover my face and have a wedding…”

his track sums up this whole poisonous phenomenon quite poetically.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w2QZAGbUqE

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keyster April 18, 2012 at 15:48

Any woman who feels compelled to reveal her debaucherous past has no intention of having a serious relationship with you.

It’s not a shit test.
It’s meant to show a certian amount of disdain and disrespect for you as a man who doesn’t quite measure up to her standards. Don’t ever forget that.

If she says she can’t even remember how many guys she’s f*cked in a rather “matter-of-fact” tone, you’ve entered the Futrelle Zone. Go home and video tape your cat on a Roomba and post it on YouTube. It would be time better spent.

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Alan Vaughn April 18, 2012 at 16:43

@td9red
You wrote:

There is still a significant stigma associated with being a promiscuous woman that is not similarly attached to men

That’s fairly typical thinking for a feminist.
Whilst there may not be a ‘slut’ or ‘whore’ equivalent fer men (well maybe there is: how about ‘sleaze-ball’ for example), but what all of you from the gynocracy seem to have conveniently forgotten is how you’ve reviewed all the laws relating to sex, that make it so that nowadays, almost any man can be unfairly branded a paedophile, pervert, predator, sicko, plus a few more.
This was accomplished in recent years by redifining terms like pornography, but more significantly: child. That word can now include a fully developed nubile and fertile young woman as ‘young’ as 18 years old. (Well, at least 17 years 11 months and 3 weeks will qualify, which is in practical terms – 18, but legally: a CHILD).
Under these recently introduced laws: any man found having a fully consensual and loving relationship with such a ‘child’ is arrested, charged with having ‘sex with a minor</i) or statutory rape and thrown into prison as despised ‘paedophile’ for many decades. Whilst serving his prison sentence, he is beaten to a pulp, sodomized, often on a daily basis by dangerous psycopathic and violent fellow inmates while the state ‘turns a blind eye’ to this (REAL) RAPE of a male…Totally devoid of ANY semblence of human rights.

IF he survives to the end of his many decades long prison (and torture and rape) sentence, he is released only to be totally shunned, ostricized and scape-goated by the entire society he was once a part of, (no) thanks to the publicly accessible sex-offender registries the feminist movement lobbied for and won; for the primary purpose of destroyng men. (Not to mention the families of those men – their wives, kids and even their friends have to tolerate the ridicule and institutionlized hatred from hysterical lynch-mobs and other sex-hysterical hypocrites, whilst he is in prison being beaten and sodomized as well)…

And you lot are offended by a mere name or derogatory term like ‘whore’ or ‘slut’?

Get a fucking life and get over yourselves! You feminists have built a utopia here (at the expense of men and boys) and you STILL complain about everything including trivialities such as being referred to or occasionally actually being called a ‘whore’??

Go Away td9red, we’re not interested in anything you have to offer, because it’s all rubbish!
Go and visit manboobz or some other pro-misandry site, your ideas would be most welcome at any of them.

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Eric April 18, 2012 at 16:47

Interest in pornography is culturally directly porportional to the sexual repression of men. The feminists, who howl most loudly about pornography’s supposed ‘exploitation’ of women, have encouraged its growth by concentrating all the social power of sex in female hands.

Note, too, that these same feminists (and their Socon Sisterhood) all want tougher laws against pornographers as ‘exploitative’. But notice well that, for all this blather, that pornography is a multi-billion dollar industry: it doesn’t seem like the pornographers are having much difficulty finding female subjects willing to be ‘exploited’, now does it?

If women really want to put a stop to such practices, the solution is very simple: offer men something BETTER. The fact that men are either turning to virtual sex or fleeing the Anglosphere in droves just to find worthwhile relationships ought to be some kind of wake-up call to Western women that they really aren’t the goddesses they imagine themselves to be. But I’m sure they’ll continue hiding behind NAWALT and complaining that all men are pigs who don’t appreciate them.

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Eric April 18, 2012 at 17:03

td9red,
“No one wants to marry these former or current porn whores.”

I beg to differ, quite a few of them ARE married. These types of women attract white knights and manginas like magnets.

“The sex stigma attached to women is rarely attached to men.”
LOL! Are you serious? Women pride themselves on their sluttiness and throw themselves at the lowest males at every opportunity. All men need to have is allegation made—look at what happened to Hermann Cain, for example, to bring them down. That was all about ‘inappropriate touching’.

Hell, men are shamed for even showing healthy interest in younger or foreign females. In my city, it’s actually a crime—’virtual rape’ to look at a woman longer than 30 seconds!

“A false advertisement clause in the marriage contract might not be a bad idea”

Dude, if you need a contract at all, you shouldn’t be marrying in the first place. That’s a sure sign that she sees herself nothing more than a ‘business partner’. Nothing wrong with that—in business—but a marriage is considerably different.

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Alan Vaughn April 18, 2012 at 17:11

@Eric

Dude, if you need a contract at all, you shouldn’t be marrying in the first place. ..

It’s not ‘Dude’. Commentator ‘td9red’ is woman femi-hag.
She’s a bitter feminist troll who leaves comments such as her latest contribution of feminist biased nonsense on many MRA blogs.
The moderator should just ban her …

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continent April 18, 2012 at 17:15

While it may not be a crime to act in porn movie. if your empoyer has a “moral turpitude” clause it might impact your job.
http://www.sternfannetwork.com/xen/index.php?threads/middle-school-teacher-is-placed-on-leave-after-students-discover-her-porn-past.655149/

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Quentin April 18, 2012 at 17:45

I disagree with people who believe there is not any stigma associated with men. I hear women use the word “pig” a lot when describing a man who has sex with a lot of women or younger women.

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Norm April 18, 2012 at 17:52

Now the so called Beta men know why their “princess” doesn’t want to have sex with you after she has the wedding. She had so much sex with many different guys, she is not interested in it anymore. This is almost like marrying a prostitute. She put out for every low life\jock, but not for you after the ring. I’m sure it’s the same way for guys, but usually the 80/20 rule applies.

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CubanGuy April 18, 2012 at 17:57

As my brother-in-law once told an American co-worker who used to ask him about prostitution in pre-Castro Cuba —–

“Well – it is true that there were many whorehouses in Havana (mostly for tourists BTW)- but in YOUR country — there may not be so many whorehouses BUT there is a whore in every house”.

This story has gone around in the family for decades —always good for a laugh.

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CubanGuy April 18, 2012 at 18:00

In plain Cuban-Americanese —- if American women f*cked more, men wouldn’t be seeking release in porno.

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Lord Valtrex April 18, 2012 at 18:03

OT

Vanessa Williams: I Was Molested as a Child

…”It happened one night where she told me, ‘come over here,’ I didn’t know that it was wrong, but I knew that it wasn’t right because I wasn’t supposed to tell anybody.”

“I think I was highly sexualized because I was in fifth grade and I had this experience. Because it feels good, you’re like, OK, well this is supposed to be normal. That’s not normal for a 10-year-old to be seduced.”

Source: http://www.tmz.com/2012/04/17/vanessa-williams-molested-book

So…her body tells her it feels really good, but her socialization tells her it is wrong. Umm, so it is not the sexual experience, per se, which is traumatizing, but the societal judgement of her experience that distresses her (and other women), correct?

If so, then multiple her brainwashing times 150 million other women (under the same, relentless 24/7 Media/State brainwashing) and this could explain, in part, why women are so fucking crazy.

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Alan Vaughn April 18, 2012 at 18:18

@Quentin

“I disagree with people who believe there is not any stigma associated with men. I hear women use the word “pig” a lot when describing a man who has sex with a lot of women or younger women”.

Yes, true and how about ‘sleaze’, ‘sleaze-ball’ or ‘sleaze-bag’ too.
For those men who have sex with ‘younger women’ they have even better words, such as: ‘paedophile, pervert, predator, deviant… However, even better still: if the woman is below a certain age – i.e. 18 years old, (legally a ‘child’ thanks to feminist influenced misandrist new laws that define things such as ‘child’ and ‘statutory rape’), he can even be sent to prison as any / all of the above names for many years, with daily beatings and RAPED by other ‘righteous’ fellow inmates as a ‘bonus’…

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Ethical April 18, 2012 at 18:37

This comment by “analrapist” April 16, 2012 at 9:50 am reposted from inmalafide.com:

My daughter is six.

I hope she sucks a lot of random dicks and fucks a lot of random guys so she can find her “true self.”

That way when she does get married, she and her husband can distrust each other and have awkward neurotic sex for purposes of procreation only.

Men are expected to offer up their daughters like multi-hole sacrifices. We can save her first bukkake or A2M photo right next to the graduation photos. All those choices are equal after all.

I can’t do it.

I love my kids and want the best for them. Promiscuity, sexual liberation, feminism and political correctness are not that future.

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Eric April 18, 2012 at 18:37

Norm & CubanGuy:
That sums things up pretty well. In spite of what these sluts say, I can’t imagine that sex with the lowlifes and jocks was all that great, either. There might be an element of distaste for sex after their numerous liasons with scumbags and blockheads.

The other part of it is that Anglo-American women also believe themselves the ‘owners of sex’. They think that ‘giving sex’ (like a welfare handout) is just the price they have to pay for maintaining a relationship or marriage. Naturally, they resent doing anything for men; so once the resentment boils over, Ms. Princess dumps Prince Charming for the Court Jester and repeats the cycle all over again.

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American April 18, 2012 at 19:20

The gender-feminist community used to “Inflame” their way to empowerment by saying the patriarchy objectifies women.
Well modern Gender Raunch are objectifying women to a degree that would make the old 50′s patriarchs blush.

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American April 18, 2012 at 19:24

Patriarchy wants to raise modest women, Gender-Raunch matriarchs want to make pole dancing a college course.

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Neil April 18, 2012 at 19:42

“No one wants to marry these former or current porn whores.”

Tito Ortiz married Jenna Jameson & even got jailed briefly over DV accusations:

On April 26, 2010, Ortiz was arrested for felony domestic violence at the couple’s Huntington Beach, California home.[52] Jameson was photographed afterward that day with a bandaged arm,[53] amid accusations by both parties against each other, with Ortiz accusing Jameson of being erratic and addicted to OxyContin, while she alleged that he was abusive. Since the incident occurred, both parties have recanted these allegations that were made toward one another, though as of April 29, 2010, the investigation by the police department remains open.[54]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tito_Ortiz

Here is a successful pro athlete who I am sure had plenty of money & he goes and marries a washed up porn star (who in all likelihood is also a drug addict).

Don’t underestimate how dumb & pathetic men in the West can be.

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Eric April 18, 2012 at 19:47

Mahhrat:
What you imply, though, is that men and women in our culture have the same level of responsibility for their choices. That’s not true.

Women are presumed to ‘have all the power in relationships’. Really, it’s her choices alone that matter. Women choose to be with thugs and idiots when there are numerous better and more responsible options open to them. The fact that women overwhelmingly terminate relationships with good men and pursue worthless ones is proof in itself that the responsibility lies with them and not with us.

Men, on the other hand, are very limited in their field of choices (unless they expat out). The abysmal quality of American women; women’s complete lack of interest in responsible men; and the ever-impending consequences of acting contrary to misandryist legal and social norms considerably constrict men’s options. Most men, if they were honest about it, would admit that their choices are pretty much limited to the least objectionable—not the most desirable—of available women. When I was still involved in the US dating scene, I realized that even then in my pre-MRM days.

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Ryu April 18, 2012 at 20:02

Hey, where is the coverage of Obama, the secret service, and the Columbian hookers?

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Mahhrat April 18, 2012 at 21:24

Eric: I can’t speak regarding American women as I’ve never set foot in the States, but let’s assume they’re every bit as bad as you say.

Are you seriously just going to sit there and complain that “women have all the power” or are you going to educate towards a better solution? Of course not: many men on this site are advocating MGTOW, or moving away as you’ve apparently done. This is men empowering themselves.

This is the main problem I have with the MR movement – this idea that men have no self-authority, no agency, that we are somehow entitled to sexual intercourse with women, that we are entitled to a nuclear family, that we are less manly if we don’t have those things in abundance and that we must have them, even though it lead to our financial, legal and social ruination.

There is so much talk about how bad women are, how they choose irresponsibility, you mention it yourself; women dating thugs. Irresponsibility among either gender is a massive issue; it’s not monopolised by women.

How irresponsible are the men that marry a gold-digging feminist (to use a phrase)? I would suggest that if a woman is responsible for dating a thug, then a man is just as responsible for dating a gold digger.

Where MR has good points lay around holding said gold-diggers (and thugs) responsible for their behaviour. Where it falls over is in this double-standard where it’s okay for a guy to feel aggrieved that she’s left with the kids and the furniture, but it’s not okay for a woman to feel aggrieved that a boyfriend is a raging douche who’ll end up in jail for beating her up.

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Eric April 18, 2012 at 21:59

Mahhrat:
“I can’t speak regarding American women, but let’s assume they’re as bad as you say.”

I’ve met plenty of foreign guys who’ve been here and told me that they didn’t really know how to appreciate women in their own countries until they experienced how bad American women really are. Being from outside the country, you probably misunderstood what we mean by ‘women having all the power.’

That phrase is not original to the MRM, you can hear repeated almost anywhere gender issues come up. Women here actually believe that they have a monopoly on sex—and they are the ones with the ‘entitlement attitude’ that you mentioned. Pick up any women’s literature and it’s very clear—if not specifically stated—that American women regard all men as their inferiors.

I don’t know whom in the MRM you’re referring to who believe that men are entitled to sex, marriage &c. I’ve often said that those things must be earned—which includes women having to earn them too. American women are unwilling to accept any of the responsibility of earning or maintaining a relationship.

“How irresponsible are men who marry a gold-digging feminist?”

Very. But unless a man MGTOWs, marries outside the Anglosphere, or turns homosexual, ‘gold-digging feminists’ comprise about 100% of his marriagable options.

“It’s not OK for a woman to feel aggrieved that her boyfriend is a raging douche who’ll end up in jail &c.’

According to FBI statistics, a woman will leave and return seven times on average to a male like that before finishing with him. Personally, guys I know who are abusive thugs generally have no problem attracting women. Again, it’s the fact that over here in the US women show a decided predilection to dysfunctional thugs, losers, bums, and deadbeats—while making it a decided point to heap abuse and indifference upon worthwhile and responsible men—that is really driving this attitude of many MRAs.

IOW, that she’s ‘left with the kids and the furniture’ and ‘her boyfriend is a raging douche’ is not reflective of a double standard; it’s condemning two distinct patterns of typical female behavior.

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Alan Vaughn April 18, 2012 at 23:02

@MRA

“…when an unknown man is on a movie he is just working for free or 200 while the woman is getting up to 30k, and then Radfem and Andrea Dworkin come saying porn exploits women and is rape.”

LOL…
It proves that you could almost mandate a general ‘law’ or ‘rule-of-thumb’ that applies to anything feminists claim. It could be something like:

‘The TRUTHFULNESS of any proclamation issued by the International Gynocracy, (aka ‘The Feminist Movement’) of gender imbalance, discrimination, inequality, victimization, exploitation, oppression or vilification; is INVERSELY dependant on the positions of all gender specific or gender related words”…

In simple English: just swap the words: male and female, man / woman, boy / girl etc. around, then whatever the claim is will be TRUE.

As read: FALSE.

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Ode April 19, 2012 at 04:42

Afro

For every “supermodel” porn actress pulling in 25k a shoot plus 75k royalties on the bluray, there are the apex fallacy sluts getting 50 bucks a shoot and 5% of sales that struggle to reach double figures, and that is the “legit” porn run by men…

Ron Jeremy disagrees. He says “Girls can easily make 100K-250K per year, plus stuff on the side like strip shows and appearance”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornographic_film_actor#Pay_rates

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Opus April 19, 2012 at 05:26

@ Eric

It may, of course, have been my cute British Accent (and Ass – as one of my American Girlfriends said) but I really must say that – now I think about it – I had no particular problems with American women when I was in your country – on the three occasions I have been there (and I have spent in total a year there). Certainly no worse – probably better in fact – that the average British bird. There was, however, one occasion when I came across the rudest of female law students – I walked – I wasn’t tolerating that level of arrogant gratuitous abuse.

Nor did I find American women particularily promiscuous, unfortunately – I did not come across any Gender Raunch – almost the reverse; so many, seem to be good Christians.

Perhaps Futrelle can spin this ‘MRA denies American women are sluts etc’.

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td9red April 19, 2012 at 05:38

I don’t believe there is a stigma for male promiscuity b/c the fact that a man has slept with many women would not tend to scare many women away. Sure, some women may refer to these men as pigs and use other names, but, in fact they would go out with him if he asked and marry him if it went that far. In fact, learning that a man has been with many women may actually attract more women to him. Further, I don’t believe other males would view a promiscious man unfavorably. I think it’s different when it comes to promiscious women. Men do not want to date or marry a promiscious woman. Also, other women would not look upon her favorably.

Alan – you complain that I like to post feminist nonsense. I’m no feminist. Actually, I like recognizing truths and understanding them. I don’t think the sexes will ever get along better if we ignore truths b/c the truth doesn’t always line up with our position. Better to accept truths and work to change truths that are not beneficial to society. One completely foolish untruth that both feminists and some MRAs tout is that men and women are the same and should be treated the same. This asinine statement gets us absolutely no where. Men and women likely have more mental, physical, and emotional differences than similarities. This is b/c they were meant to compliment each other. They were not meant to contribute the same ingredients to the mix. Alan- I generally expect to get down voted b/c, yes I’m a woman. But, please be willing to recognize when my statements are reasonable and make sense. If you don’t agree, let me know where you think I went wrong or provide your point of view.

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td9red April 19, 2012 at 05:44

Note – the earlier post was a bit of a joke. If you think a “false adverstisement” clause should be included in your marriage contract you shouldn’t be getting married.

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Huck Finn April 19, 2012 at 06:54

There are lots of free porn vids on the web. I see no reason to buy when I’m in the mood to watch. Besides, the availability of free porn is only fair: since when do women ever do anything really truly free for men?

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Huck Finn April 19, 2012 at 07:06

“One completely foolish untruth that both feminists and some MRAs tout is that men and women are the same and should be treated the same.”

I am not aware of any MRAs ‘touting’ that men and women (the sexes) are the same or equal. All the MRAs that I know do not buy into the earlier feminist ‘it’s all socially learned behavior’ propaganda nonsense. Now, of course, feminists state females are inherently superior. I am aware of some MRAs stating that in today’s modern society men should get the same special class status women get or take away those special class privileges for women. As to a concept such as chivalry, I know many MRAs that want to see all men stop being foolish white knights and chivalrous fools for women who usually don’t deserve it.

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Mikediver April 19, 2012 at 08:05

To all the above that have stated that “if you need a contract for marriage then you should not get married” ; marriage is and always has been a contract. It is nothing else. My parents were married in 1942 and clearly looked on marriage as a business deal/contract for which they both felt bound by its terms. It is still a contract only now a days we tell women it is a contract, but for them it is a voidable contract anytime they feel less than perfectly happy. They are eager to sign the contract since they know they have no obligations and all the benifits and can cancel out anytime they want with cash and prizes for doing so. Increasingly they also marry with absolutely no intention of remaning faithfull. But they know the guy has to or get gutted wven worse in the inevitable divorce.

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Peace Debts April 19, 2012 at 11:36

In this day and age if you want to watch some porn you can easily find tons of it for free. Even if you live in Saudi Arabia or Iran, if you have a computer with internet access you can easily find it. Giant amounts of it. Any possible genre. For free. People who pay for porn must be crazy. Especially those who pay for that sick tasteless immensely perverse poisonous unhealthy shit produced by american “$10 billion business”. It’s not really a business, but rather a giant liberal leftist mind poisoning NWO propaganda machine whose covert purpose is to subvert and destroy cultures.

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Jabberwocky April 19, 2012 at 15:07

All three of the Abrahamic religions have historically tried to regulate female sexuality for a reason. The reason is that unchecked power leads to unchecked corruption. A women has the right to use her sexuality no more carelessly than a man has the right to use his greater strength to leverage his own position in society. A man can’t go around physically bullying people to get his way (legally at least), just as a woman shouldn’t use sexual manipulation to achieve her ends. However, all the inherent advantages of either physical strength or sexuality can never be completely regulated away by the rule of law or cultural norms, nor should they… just regulated to the point where they are not abused.

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Eric April 19, 2012 at 17:35

td9red:
“Learning that a man had been with many women would likely attract them to him”

I don’t dispute that at all—women seem quite drawn to the most openly promiscuous (and least responsible) men. But that’s becuase women see all men as pigs and their as their inferiors. They only want men over whom they can feel superior.

“I don’t believe other males would view a promiscuous man unfavourably.”

I do; and most other men do as well.

“Most other women would look on a [promiscuous woman] unfavorably.”

Unless you’re equating unfavorable with jealously, I don’t see much evidence of that. Women, instead, are rather proud of their sluttiness.

“Men and women are the same and should be treated as the same”

They are not the same; but what men object to that men are treated as inferiors. How many times has it been said that ‘women move the world’; ‘women have all the power in relationships’; ‘women are the owners of sex and/or reproduction’;&c?

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Eric April 19, 2012 at 17:43

Opus:
I read a lot of British and Australian MRM blogs and, if women in the rest of the Anglosphere are anything like what I’ve seen of them there, I can see how you might draw that conclusion, American women tend to have a casual misandry and hide behind a hypocritical NAWALT; whereas British and Aussie women are visceral in their hatred of men. But behind all the posturing, American women are just as cold-blooded and vicious, they are just a lot more low-key about it.

The bottom line is: Anglo-American women suck. There may be cultural variants on their abominable attitudes and behaviors, but they are still basically man-hating bully-bitches to the core.

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Butthole April 24, 2012 at 23:11

@Eric
“I don’t believe other males would view a promiscuous man unfavourably.”

I do; and most other men do as well.

You’re high if you really believe that. Go check out PUA culture or visit ANY high school campus and get a clue.

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joeb April 28, 2012 at 06:01

I think we have to look at the Money and say they are turning the housewife into a whore , First hand knowledge comes from experience in this matter .
The lure of sex ,drugs and easy money is always the bait . Its much easier to be a rich whore then it is to be a Good catholic girl .
Most women just cave to the program . drugs and sex is used as a proselytizer.Then the housewife is directed and then the divorce industry . Hence the Male becomes the slave or A.T.M to a crack whore
Its simple , Pimps have been doing it since the first whore . To bad the pimps have been crushed and the Government crack cocaine industry has taken over those duties .

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Eric April 29, 2012 at 02:01

Butthole:

‘check out PUA culture or any high school campus and get a clue.’

Why should I take anybody calling himself ‘Butthole’ seriously? I do realize, though, that assholes with dumb-downed public-school intellects do appeal to American women, so that’s probably working in your favor (if you can call having sex with Amerobitches favorable).

So, go back to PUA, Alphaboy. When you get an STD or a false accusation, please let us all know.

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Al Thompson April 29, 2012 at 20:50

I would like to have a woman as nice as my dog, with the same loyalty.
http://verydumbgovernment.blogspot.com/2011/11/i-wish-i-had-woman-as-nice-as-my-dog.html

I have two dogs now and they are a real treat to have around. I have very little to no drama. We have fun all day long and I take them almost everywhere I go. We have long walks in the woods.

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