The Coming Demographic Shift

by W.F. Price on March 28, 2012

Although I like to pay attention to demographics and quantitative social studies, and often read papers and blogs devoted to the subjects, I tend to leave it to the guys who like crunching numbers in Excel (there are a lot of them out there). However, every now and then simple observation compels me to weigh in on the issue. One thing I’ve realized, as I approach middle age (or have already entered it depending on one’s definition), is that I really don’t know what’s going on with those who are a decade or more younger than me. Actually, I’m not even sure I realize how things are for those in their late 20s, but that’s kind of a transitional stage, and they have already more or less entered the adult world, so the difference is not so profound.

So, to do a little research I went to some social media sites so as to get an idea of the youthful style and trends. One thing I noticed about women in their 20s is that lots and lots of them have tattoos. Not just the little tramp stamp a few naughty girls got back in the 90s, but in many cases big, garish glaring things that cover their necks, upper arms, backs, calves and God knows what else. Now, this isn’t all of them, of course, but a very considerable proportion — about 20-30%. My bet is that these are the daughters of single moms.

Then, on the other hand, you’ve got the “wholesome” Christian types. I doubt they are any better behaved than the typical girl of some 20 years ago, but hey, at least they are making an effort. These girls probably grew up, for the most part, in intact families. Now, keep in mind that these are the 20-somethings, born for the most part in the 1980s. I think there’s going to be an even bigger shift in the next cohort, as I’ll explain presently.

While in San Francisco, I did a lot of walking around with my kids, going to parks, riding cable cars, and all the rest. San Francisco is a very “progressive” city, and fairly white as far as large cities go. Because I was with kids doing parent things, I saw a lot of other parents. Mainly professional urban types with one or two kids (usually one), largely white, and fairly old as far as parents go. I was a young dad there for the age of my kids, and I’m pretty much right in the middle for the typical white, American father — maybe even a year or so older than average. However, despite going to a lot of kid-friendly places, and despite the fact that San Francisco is actually a really fun place to take kids, I got the impression that children are a rarity in San Francisco. In fact, they are.

There’s been talk for some time now about how conservative whites tend to have more kids than liberals (I’ll focus on whites here because black demographics have followed an entirely different pattern, and immigrants, obviously, have as well). Although I’m not sure exactly when the trend started, I suspect it got going some time around 1980 (this article suggests the late 70s), probably shortly after party affiliation started to solidify along urban/non-urban lines, and then really accelerated in the 90s. My age cohort – those of us born during the 70s – is the last one in which white Democrats and Republicans had essentially equal numbers of children. Therefore, to me it is pretty normal to have a mix of conservatives and liberals in the same family, amongst friends, colleagues, etc. However, this will change, and the divide amongst the young is going to result in a bifurcation and transformation of the white American population. If the contrast between one kind of girl and another, which was by no means so stark when I was younger, is any indication, this division has already begun to show itself.

What we see playing out in American politics is the last gasp of traditional America. Liberals vs. conservatives is starting to become something of an old people’s game. For people my age and older, we could be one or the other without having many fundamental differences besides political affiliation between us, so it’s essentially a debate between equals. For younger people, there will be far more profound differences in terms of family structure, wealth and culture, because of both fertility trends and the realities of broken families and single motherhood.

Progressive whites are already a minority amongst white Americans, but given their abysmal fecundity they will be an even smaller minority in short order. Their few children, however, should have a nice lifestyle and ample opportunity. They will in all likelihood continue to have a disproportionately strong voice in the cultural elite for some time even as their numbers dwindle to insignificance. Somewhat more fertile, but far less functional, will be the white working class/single mom cohort. As we have seen in the news recently, some 30% of babies born to white mothers under 30 are illegitimate, and most of these mothers are poorly educated and come from families with limited means. A number of these women and their children may affiliate themselves with the progressives (although many of them vote Republican in the South), but they are amongst the least political whites of all. They are probably the least likely to vote, or even know who is running for local office. Additionally, although they may be having 30% of the babies in their 20s, single moms are not generally as fertile as married women. Not having a husband makes it a lot more difficult to raise children, so many will never have another child. Their children will likely end up the damaged, tattooed girls and bad boys who live it up until they, too, make a baby and then spend the rest of their fertile years working low-skill, poorly-paid jobs to support themselves and their one or two kids.

The remainder is where the future lies. Perhaps 60% of whites will be neither progressive nor trashy, and they will have the lion’s share of children. In fact, this has already started happening, and we simply haven’t seen it yet, because their children are just now getting out of school. Sure, some of them will suffer from the ordinary pitfalls of contemporary American life, such as divorce, layoffs, and other calamities, but their position will be both stronger and healthier than that of their white competitors, and that will become more apparent within a fairly short period of time — say ten years. By that time, the conservative/liberal divide is not going to make quite as much sense, because middle class liberals will be riding off into the sunset (and probably expending much of their effort demanding their rivals’ children fund their rising healthcare costs).

One indication that this is already starting to happen is the pitiful protest movements one sees whites getting involved in today, such as Occupy Wall Street. Not only are the protestors a lot older on average than typical protestors would have been in the 90s and before, but the young ones are so obviously the spoiled, privileged children of urban elites that it takes the wind right of the movement’s sails. How many middle-American types would one find in those camps? Maybe a few were wandering around in there, but they sure weren’t represented according to their numbers. And the white proles who should have the biggest gripe are noticeably absent — they are apolitical. The gulf between these potential allies – white progressives and the white working/underclass – is just too big for them to forge anything other than the most awkward of coalitions. What’s really ironic is how progressives have been championing the demise of traditional America for years, but in reality they’ve simply been celebrating their own pending irrelevance. On that note, perhaps those who really don’t care all that much for progressive politics should support the Sandra Flukes of the world, who are doing their utmost to ensure that the daughters of progressive elites remain infertile for as long as possible.

So what does this have to do with men’s rights, feminism and the other issues we usually discuss here? Well, for one thing, the very concept of “men’s rights” is probably going to lose its cachet even as the progressive feminist movement runs out of steam. As white America shifts from a hegemonic force that competes only with itself in ever-escalating (and ridiculous) political gamesmanship to a more standard ethnic/national bloc in the greater Northern context, there will be a settling of values to something closer to the global norm, and instead of attempting to enforce one or another concept of “equality,” natural gender roles will quietly start to be taken for granted again. It will take years for this to happen, and in the meanwhile we’ll still have to deal with some of the excesses of the Postwar era (which ended with the collapse of the Soviet Union, but still dominates political ideology and affiliation), but it looks as though we’ve passed the tipping point. In fact, the majority of Americans alive today are what one could call “post-feminist;” i.e. they were born after the demographic decline of progressives began. They have yet to reach political significance, but that will change sooner than most people think.

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Opus March 28, 2012 at 03:16

My own thoughts have been moving along similar lines. The official rhetoric of Diversity and Equality, does I think hide something rather different: A mutually compatible, educated (usually entirely or half) white couple, inheriting (as only children) their respective parents property, and in turn having just one child, who in turn…. and so on, thus creating a small but powerful and wealthy white elite. They preach one gospel (multi-culti tolerance and affirmative action) but practice another.

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AfOR March 28, 2012 at 03:56

“we” as a society have successfully and completely sexualised and sluttified young kids so that there is now no such thing as “childhood”, that special time between being old enough to go out by yourself or with your friends to play, and being old enough to be sexual.

I see pre-pubescent girls every single day who are dressed like whore and who act like whores, and in monkey see monkey do fashion this can ONLY have come about because of the lack of a daddy.

I see the boys, and they for their part, also lacking a daddy to restrain them, model themselves on the stream of gang bangers who spend the night in mummy’s bedroom and make all those noises…. and say all those naughty words.

You have seen the end of childhood, no more.

This is what the paedophile child raping (go and read the vagina monologues etc) feminazis have wanted all along, and they have gotten it.

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Intuitive March 28, 2012 at 04:05

This article and the first comment fails to take into account the burgeoning barbarian classes and the comming modern babarian age.

The barbarian classes, having no race, class, religious nor political affiliation are multiplying themselves today. And they are doing so on the existing fabric of society.

The real demography shift happening is to be discerned in the coarsening and the roughening of the aristocrat and middle classes down to a level where they are able to defend against the barbarian classes.

This development of a growing barbarian class coupled with an errosion of the character, manners and customs of the elite and middle classes as a natural defensive response is inevitable. A response that will take the form of the State increasingly being made for sale and being sold.

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J March 28, 2012 at 05:02

I graduated in a very liberal town, with a big University, also very liberal. I had an english teacher in twelfth grade brag to us how she had an abortion, and she was fine! My sophmore year in high school, I had a dyke lesbian white teacher who would always stare at me when talking about oppression of any kind( I am a big white male), and never in any school was white slavery of the Irish, and eastern Europeans (plus the sale of African people by their own leaders for manufactured merchandise) EVER discussed! All my teachers of any subject always seemed hostile to Christianity, men in general, pro gay, pro-choice, irritatingly and obnoxiously liberally democrat(I am not any political persuasion), and ignorantly pro union on anything and everything.

Did we talk about linear equations in math, of course, with an occaional jibe about how women are better then men?! Did chemical equations really equal each other when the came together, of course, therefore white men must therefore all be oppresors?! Did the civil war happen, of course, feminism saved the day?! Did malcolm maslow’s hierarchy of needs really exlain the human conditioning response, then homosexuality was just fine?! To all of these examples my fellow students and I looked at eachother confused, what was these peoples(teachers) problem?

I graduated in the late nineties, and since then I have had to reprogram myself numerous ways. My generation was really messed up, I would say we still are in many ways! But, even with all of that, I am not sure I see the same demographic shift coming that you do!

It seems more to me that what we have is so much more complicated. Not just here, but much of the same thing in Europe, posibly more so there. I have lived all over the world, and I am seeing very similiar situations all over the place. Our country has gotten it’s hands in every other countries pot. What you are saying may very well be true, but it really does not cover the full equation, and I feel we would thoroughly need to cover more races, and different cultures on how they are affected by our culture here. For example, our culture is militant in more ways then one. Our corporations, our version of diplomacy, our political views, our mixed culture(music, movies, etc.), how we throw our opinions around, etc. Lincoln stated supposedlythat children were the key to the future, if given the children, he could control the future. Not exactly sure of the quote.

I think you really touched on something, post-war culture was very spoiled, and shielded from reality Our greatest generation won, and then what? They tried to control everything. Most people think communism, fascism were defeated. They usually have no idea our leaders here either sympathized wth that movement, or celebrated it behind closed doors. I personnally feel that the lower level leaders of those movements in Europe just came over here. I don’t feel that when these progressives and their ideals die that we will be done with it. Men by our nature are the natural protectors of society, and the family. Feminists, both political parties, universities, businesses, and a myriad of bogus political ideologies await our children no matter what we do. When we are done fighting the baby boomer demographics BS, we will have another fight on our hands. They have to get rid of us in order to posses any culture, I am afraid their strategy is more comprehensive then we realize. The leaders in DC from the baby boomers generation never run for president because they can stay and control things longer, and plan( 5 year-plan anyone) many years into the future. They have whole tons of thinktanks just drumming over countless ideas and future scenarios. We only think we learned from the Vietnam cluster**** that happened all those years ago!

I will finish with this, in the spirit of Muhammed Ali……….I won’t go fight some muslim man thousands of miles away, he don’t call me ******(read deadbeat dad, mysogynist, ETC.). The “cycle” is bigger and more encompassing then we think. But I don’t think it is “static.”

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Antifeminist One March 28, 2012 at 05:21

O/T guys, sorry. But I think it’s important to share..

Here’s your VAWA law in action. Girl physically attacks boyfriend, so he locks himself in bathroom. Calls cops to have her removed, they arrest him instead. While in custody, she has free reign to destroy his (some irreplaceable) belongings:

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/rgwrt/so_reddit_i_called_the_cops_on_my_gf_after_an/

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PeterTheGreat March 28, 2012 at 06:08

The South is still the core of the nation in terms of traditional values. Yes, there are feminists all over the place, but there is still an understanding of family and kin that has been seriously lacking for decades in the North.

The demographic shift began here in the ’90s. Where in the ’80s you only saw 1-2 kids, and not too many pregnant women, by the ’90s 3-4 kids had become normal in intact families.

As I said, there are plenty of sluts, and fembots here, but they coexist with normal people. Just as liberals are aborting future liberals, I believe that W.F. is correct. A shift has definitely taken place in the South, and as it plays out in the rest of the country, perhaps we’ll get our country back.

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NoRest March 28, 2012 at 06:26

I live in the south.

Yankees are flooding the south looking for jobs.

Californians are moving here taking advantage of welfare.

Mexicans are taking the blue collar work, undercutting local labor.

The immigration has been changing the culture. Import a people, you import their culture.

The south has problems. Feminism is just the coup de grace. Feminists consume the impressionable conformist teenage girls, and excise the pater familias whose duty it is to protect the young.

Fortunately most fathers instinctively feel the duty to protect their families and band together in clans and tribes. Unfortunately they don’t have much time to devote to their families after working 80 hour weeks to make ends meet.

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Uncle Elmer March 28, 2012 at 07:25

“My sophmore year in high school, I had a dyke lesbian white teacher who would always stare at me when talking about oppression of any kind…”

I have witnessed over and over these buffoons loudly proclaiming their racial sensitivity and progressive attitudes while pointing the finger at someone else (who usually is part of a captive audience) as perpetrator of all evil. Years ago my former wife was working a part-time “math study skills assistant” job at the branch campus of the local university (located in a small building out in the desert) and the lesbian supervisor cohort, which would stage “protests” about one alleged outrage after another, decided to have a session where all the tutors would sit in a circle and exorcise their racist tendencies. Naturally they piled on the white Mormon dude, who was there to help students with their math, haranguing him about his racism and throwing feminist propaganda tracts at him.

Frankly, this whole “Little Trayvon” brouhaha, while not surprising from the black community, is most insufferable coming from whites. It’s one thing to voice an opinion but to live far away from people of color and then proclaim your progressive, integrative attitude while vilifying other whites as “racist” is very telling indeed. It’s called the “Duluth Syndrome”.

By the way Price, that LastCrucible guy, who we took a risk and hired as part of our Diversity Outreach, is late for work again. I am dead in the water awaiting the report you assigned to him. Some people think the rules don’t apply to them. You may need to initiate Encorpera’s Level One Corrective Action. Make sure you document everything.

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Days of Broken Arrows March 28, 2012 at 07:26

I agree with J. The school systems will continue to ram feminism down the throats of American kids. I also needed years of “reprogramming.”

IMO the schools are a bigger problem than the class/wealth divide.

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Uncle Elmer March 28, 2012 at 07:33

“Women excelled at taking initiative, displaying honesty and integrity, problem solving, driving for results, taking initiative, communicating powerfully, inspiring and motivating others, building relationships, developing others, collaboration and teamwork, and championing change. Men were approximately equal at technical expertise, innovation and connecting their group to the outside world.”

Filling the Talent Pool — With Women

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jackzenger/2012/03/28/filling-the-talent-pool-with-women/

elmer is tired of repeating himself :

elmer Just posted

“Our data come from 360 evaluations, so what they are tracking is the judgment of a leader’s peers, bosses, and direct reports. We ask these individuals to rate each leader’s effectiveness overall and also to judge how strong he or she is on the 16 competencies that our 30 years of research shows are most important to overall leadership effectiveness.”

If you’ve ever worked at Encorpera, you are aware that respondents will forward positive “evaluations” to reflect on their Diversity Commitment, and that overall, the Archaic White Male knows better than to give a female too negative a performance review.

The “study” is biased as usual to validate the expected results. Try polling these guys on women and leadership :

the-spearhead.com

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demirogue March 28, 2012 at 07:43

All of this only applies if the economic ship is righted and I’m telling you guys that’s not happening. Progressive democrats are psychopaths pure and simple; and will take the nation down merely because they won’t admit to the the destruction they’ve caused. Literally they live in some kind of other place that escapes the reality of the situation. I’m surrounded by them and they are whackjobs like no other.

We have only a few years to make some serious decisions in regards to the debt and unless measures are taken to reign it in, rising interest rates will automatically ensure much upheaval and destruction in this nation. And after that, only the smart, the strong, and those that made preparations will be the one’s left.

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James March 28, 2012 at 07:51

This is something I always complain about, as a 27 year old male. The OLDER MEN simply do not understand what it is like to be a young man today.

I will say one thing though- a very big percent of young men of my generation do not believe in this feminism or white knight bullshit, and they have very little tolerance towards it.

Older men will allow themselves to get ass raped in divorce courts, but the younger men of my generation have no such tolerance.

So if the younger women think they are going to treat the younger men with the same level of hatred that the older women do to the older men, they have a big surprise waiting for them.

1. Either the men will just entirely boycott the younger women

or

2. They will actively fight for their rights, even with force, if it requires it

What I mean by that is, the younger generation of men are much more violent than the older generation. So in plain English, if women think they are going to treat the younger generation of men like shit, then we are going to see a huge increase in violence against women.

In short, the men of my generation are not as willing to tolerate the abuse from man hating women as the older men are. Young women would be very wise to take note of this.

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W.F. Price March 28, 2012 at 07:59

Frankly, this whole “Little Trayvon” brouhaha, while not surprising from the black community, is most insufferable coming from whites.

-Uncle Elmer

Yeah, black men have a legitimate beef with authority, and you can’t blame them for being highly suspicious about the circumstances. We had a cop shoot a homeless Lummi Indian here a year or two ago, and there was no good reason for it (the guy was a deaf woodcarver and didn’t drop his little carving knife when the cop yelled at him). I’ve also had the cops draw guns on me a few times, and I never posed a threat. However, these same white progressives who are making such an issue out of the Trayvon Martin case are exactly the first ones in urban neighborhoods to call the cops when they see a “suspicious youth.” They think nothing of using armed men against people who frighten them, but when they see a political opportunity they can’t pass it up. Really disgusting hypocrisy.

By the way Price, that LastCrucible guy, who we took a risk and hired as part of our Diversity Outreach, is late for work again. I am dead in the water awaiting the report you assigned to him.

Oh, he can take his time as he pleases here — there should be some male privilege somewhere. ;)

j24601 March 28, 2012 at 08:07

Interesting thesis, Bill, but it seems contrary to the obvious drift of western societies and their alarming descent into a dystopian nightmare. It is my view that whites will simply become increasingly irrelevant in ‘their own’ countries, as other races dominate the political agenda. As for a return to ‘traditional’ gender roles; not whilst you have a hole in your proverbial.

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demirogue March 28, 2012 at 08:08

Yet nary a bleep from the media in regards to that piece of garbage Spike Lee tweeting the wrong address and causing an elderly white couple to flee their own own. Where the hell is the outrage? No where.

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keyster March 28, 2012 at 08:17

This came up a few years back in Boulder, CO, (proudly referred to as the “The People’s Republic of Boulder” by the Limosine Liberal Elites that live there.) They started looking around and asking “Where are all the children?” If a city is 90% white, than why are the children 90% brown?

Being a county seat and a university town, it is a Progressive Utopia for government/academic employment. If you do see a family, it’ll never be more than 2 children, but typically one. Whenever I ask a mother when she’s planning to have her next, I’ll get a huge sigh and a roll of the eyes and a resounding “NEVER, this is the first and last!”. The average age of these women is mid-30′s. They say it as if the one they have has been a regrettable little burden.

This demographic shift is exactly why Democrats are fighting for the Hispanic vote, pandering with the Race Card and promises of immigration reform (amnesty), and even an “open border” policy. They’re simply not reproducing little future voters fast enough and therefore must import them.

Anecdotal: I live in a neighborhood that’s 10% Hispanic. Everyday the bus stops in front of my place and I see a dozen or so Hispanic kids getting off the bus, and one lone white girl who’s autistic (40ish progressive single mom meets her.)

Feminism has turned white and black men and women against each other and we’re not breeding. That’s the simple answer. Latinas didn’t get the memo that marriage and motherhood is oppressive. The Hispanic vote is a big deal now, which is why you’ll probably see Romney choose Rubio as his running mate. As a Cuban, he’s hard right so it vexes the Democrats, (think Sarah Palin in 2008). Plus Obama promised to reform immigration and has done nothing.

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W.F. Price March 28, 2012 at 08:29

Interesting thesis, Bill, but it seems contrary to the obvious drift of western societies and their alarming descent into a dystopian nightmare. It is my view that whites will simply become increasingly irrelevant in ‘their own’ countries, as other races dominate the political agenda. As for a return to ‘traditional’ gender roles; not whilst you have a hole in your proverbial.

-j24601

I don’t think whites will be marginalized in the West (maybe in a few states and countries, but not many), but I do think they will change and begin behaving more like people in most of the world. What a lot of people don’t consider is that the ideology that became prominent in the Postwar era came about during a time when white people, Westerners in particular, had unprecedented global dominance and power. It was an anomaly, so politics became almost entirely an internal contest, especially after the collapse of the USSR. Those days are drawing to a close, and when we have to face the music like everyone else we’ll dispense with frivolities like government-enforced/funded feminism.

BTW, I do think there will be some elements of dystopia during the transition. For example, I expect prostitution to become far more prevalent in the West than it has been in many decades, and things could get pretty difficult for the elderly and poor. I think we’ll find that when people have to choose between subsidizing health care and subsidizing feminist projects like Title IX, the majority will choose the former.

Mat March 28, 2012 at 08:34

Days – saw a great tweet by Matt Challacombe, https://twitter.com/MattChallacombe, about curiosity being superior than modern education. The modern education system is in a bubble (see this – http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterjreilly/2011/11/02/when-will-the-education-bubble-explode/), so if modern experts are relying on education to be their “propaganda” center, those days are passing. Keep in mind, more and more millionaires and billionaires are avoiding school and making their impact outside of it. That leaves the educated to be buried in student loans.

They are the ones who are stuck.

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Rebel March 28, 2012 at 08:39

My opinion is that the” whites” (or Caucasians) will simply fade away and disappear from the planet before this century is over.
This demise will be sped up by the wars that we are very likely to trigger. (one such war is actually brewing around the strait of Ormuz).
This may also signal the final death spasm of feminism.

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The First Joe March 28, 2012 at 08:45

@Days of Broken Arrows – the school system and to a large extent feminism operate as the do, precisely to maintain and increase the class divide!

See Aaron Russo testifying in interview that Nick Rockefeller told him the Rockefellers funded feminism specifically because:
- they wanted to tax* half the population
- they could get ALL the kids into public school early(ier), break up the family and indoctrinate the kids into identifying with the State.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN05DHO9bJw

(*all the income tax collected by the IRS goes to pay the “interest” on fed gov’t debt “owed” to the Federal Reserve Bank for printing money, the Federal Reserve Bank is actually a private group of banks owned by 13 families, Rockefellers being the most prominent)

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Mark Plus March 28, 2012 at 08:48

I’ve discussed demographic trends among my cryonicist friends, and I’ve argued that the future societies into which revived cryonauts might have to re-enter could become more socially conservative because of differential fertility. (The gay bohemians and the childless feminist women in cryonics definitely don’t like to hear this.)

For example, the women like Mrs. Romney and Mrs. Santorum who marry during their fertile years, especially to men in patriarchal religions, defer to male authority and have more than their share of children will pass along genes which incline women in future generations to behave similarly.

By contrast, the women inclined to chase after feminist mirages of personal fulfillment, like that termagant Sandra Fluke, will doom themselves to evolutionary irrelevance.

This suggests that the notions we’ve inherited from the Enlightenment about allegedly permanent reforms to the human condition proposed by philosophers, for example, feminism, secularism and even democracy, just won’t last very long if they conflict with a Darwinian process which works underneath our illusions about the autonomy of the human mind.

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The First Joe March 28, 2012 at 08:53

Someone has already mentioned the education bubble, but there’s an even bigger bubble of debt coming up due for payment. The pension bubble. The baby boomers are retiring en masse. The remaining younger workforce is way poorer and there’s less real production of goods in the West than ever. You reckon young people who can barely keep a roof over their heads are going to stand for hight taxes to pay for retirees who by comparison are comfortably wealthy? I predict riots, not to mention a rise in the kind of kidnapping (sequestro) popular in Latin America.

Captain Capitalism did a good number crunch of the Baby Boomer pension / healthcare impact. We’re talking HUGE $$$$

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LastCrucible March 28, 2012 at 08:58

@Elmer

Hahahahahaha! Be patient.

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maxsnafu March 28, 2012 at 09:05

@Welmer:
“I don’t think whites will be marginalized in the West (maybe in a few states and countries, but not many), but I do think they will change and begin behaving more like people in most of the world.”

If you’re saying that when Whites become a minority they will be regarded with the same solicitousness that Whites currently bestow on others I think you’re whistling past the graveyard.

If non-Liberal Whites are to survive in the coming New America they will have to acquire a specific racial consciousness and promote THEIR interests the way non-Whites do now. It’s an open question whether or not they will do this. What’s NOT in question is the future of Liberal Whites: it’s bleak. This fellow describes the cause and effect pretty accurately: http://takimag.com/article/diagnosing_passover_syndrome_among_white_liberals/print#axzz1qF5GU2Le

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Steve_85 March 28, 2012 at 09:07

Just to echo what James said above: I’m 26 male, Australian. There are many flaws I have, but putting up with feminist shit is not one of them.

Violence is golden and no one is above an arse kicking. I’m also quite happy to dictate choices to a judge.

50-50 split or I go to jail. Option A is a fair split and I keep paying taxes. Option B is killing the cow to get a glass of milk, intact it is worse than that because putting me in jail will cost the government money.

I’m going to jail in this situation and I know it.

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Bryan March 28, 2012 at 09:12

Antifeminist One

I responded to that guy, the one in the link you posted… I’ll see what I can do to help him in the way of advice, if he wants it.

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Art Vandelay March 28, 2012 at 09:16

Here’s your VAWA law in action. Girl physically attacks boyfriend, so he locks himself in bathroom. Calls cops to have her removed, they arrest him instead. While in custody, she has free reign to destroy his (some irreplaceable) belongings

Yeah all that tells you that you really gotta hit back and hit back hard. Punch her right in the face a few times until she’s knocked out, plant that dirty pistol you keep on her, call the cops anonymously and leave. Just because you are paying the cops doesn’t mean that they are there to actually serve and protect, you know, you.

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Cecil March 28, 2012 at 09:42

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Aharon March 28, 2012 at 09:45

Long ago, I saw the internal American conflict in terms of young vs. old. During the later 1980s, I saw it increasingly as womyn attacking men, and during that same decade I noticed the increasingly polarizing into mutual rigid animosity zones of the neo-liberals and neo-cons. While America’s majority white population has been fighting against itself (divide and conquer by the elites), other groups (tribes?) have gained new territory.

Feminism’s weakness (one of them) is that it comes with an internal self-destruct mechanism. It’s limited biological clock is a ticking away ideological yeast infection. I’m having fun with these metaphors today. Feminist political ideology and the modern laws it has helped vomit up on society are poisoning off the golden goose from which it has been stealing resources. Feminism, like womyn’s bodies, needs an external source to procreate and provide for its unsustainable lifestyle. Womyn are not the true nurturers and creators of life (and society) that they delude themselves to be. In the past, men willingly toiled and sacrificed so womyn can then be given the resources to take care of the next generation and themselves. The more society pushes men into no-win situations the more society goes downhill. The past forty-five years is proof of that statement.

Humans are spiritual creatures having a physical experience. The spiritual life force comes from the male sperm not those female ovary things which can be cloned in a lab. Womyn probably don’t like that since they are often so self-absorbed into believing they are the creators of the life bs story. Tough tittie.

I didn’t find San Francisco a child friendly city and neither did most parents that I spoke with. Even the liberal parents there were unhappy with the social extremism of the City. Sf caters to the perverts, illegal aliens, homeless, etc before it ever considers the children. Most whites that I knew there had one or maybe two kids maximum. I knew many traditional Asian American families (they were good friends and good people) with more than two children.

The Asian Americans are the fastest (in terms of wealth) growing ethnic/racial group in America. They are smart and realistic. Asians support each other, value hard-work and a practical education, put their egos (usually) aside and the place the needs of the family group first. The expanded family and friends are there too for them. Out of marriage births are rare, entitlement is looked down upon, Asians are generally opposed to Affirmative Action, etc. I respect the Asian Americans that I knew and I think many whites can re-learn much from them.

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Art Vandelay March 28, 2012 at 09:46

See Aaron Russo testifying in interview that Nick Rockefeller told him the Rockefellers funded feminism specifically because:
- they wanted to tax* half the population
- they could get ALL the kids into public school early(ier), break up the family and indoctrinate the kids into identifying with the State.

To bad we gotta take that guys word for it. Maybe there is a real conspiracy out there that just feeds us this theories so we got something to occupy ourselves with while they plan their escape to the parallel universe…

That shit about the Federal Reserve was already refuted by someone else.

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jaego March 28, 2012 at 09:58

Societies go in cycles and theoretically, we might be able to right ourselves in time. Plato and other political philosophers have said as much. But unfortunately for us, Societies aren’t hermetically sealed test tube experiments. Once a huge mistake is made, there is seldom enough time to recover before being attacked by barbarians or the neighboring Society.

We have made a number of gigantic mistakes – anyone of which would be enough to sink us. But to stay on point, the one that will end us is having let Barbarians into our Country in vast numbers. Allied with their cohorts back home, they will never settle down and let us recover in peace. And they will have huge numbers of children on our dime. The liberals don’t have to breed – they brought the Mexicans and the Muslims in to do it for them. An ex Labor Party Official in England admitted as much. And we are not talking about one or two Western Countries falling – but the whole Civilization. All of them are doing it, varying only in what stage they’re at. Places like Iceland and Ireland might be saved by the bell of collapse from ethnic warfare within their own borders.

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Anonymous Reader March 28, 2012 at 10:28

Welmer, I saw a microcosm of this a few years ago at a memorial service, a service for a dead Baby Boomer woman who had never had a child. It was an interesting circus: the liberal / progressive /aging hippie side of the service had at most one child, the conservative / right wing / bible thumping side of the service had at least two children, if not more. Looking at the people under 12, I saw something like a 5 to 1 imbalance. And a significant percentage of those children were either being homeschooled or were in some sort of private school, intentionally to keep them away from the government schools.

It’s not just the West, though. Birth rates are down across most of the world, including a big swath of what we think of as “underdeveloped”, like Brazil, Mexico, Viet Nam, etc. For example, Mexico’s birth rate is close to 2.1, I have worked with a number of Mexican nationals who are from two child families, or who are parents of at most two children. The days of the 10 child Mexican family seem to be pretty much over. Mexicans who come to the US tend to have more than two children, but the 2nd generation seems quite prone to adopt US standards and have 1 or at most 2 offspring.

The comment about Boulder sure takes me back. In the 80′s I was visiting there and spent some time with a woman from back East. She took me aside and basically said, “Where are the poor folks? Where’s the poor part of town?”. That was easy to answer. In those days, the poor part of Boulder was called “Louisville” or “Longmont”, maybe “Niwot” – a next town over, basically. Boulderites had, in various regulatory ways, priced all the housing so high that all the people who worked for min-wage could not afford to live there. No idea where they live now – maybe north Aurora?

And even then, there was no issue with overcrowding in Boulder schools. Now it’s likely even more so – a man and a woman from one child families marry, they likely won’t have more than one child themselves. This inverted pyramid is playing out in Spain, Italy and other parts of Europe right now. Four grandparents for one child…great for the child for a while, not so good later on.

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Umslopogaas March 28, 2012 at 10:33

Hmmm. I’m not so sure I agree with your estimate, Mr. Price.

My primary beef with this article’s conclusions is the fact that the powers that be (i.e. the “progressive” agents) are *not* just gullible, liberal do-gooders but rather…ruthless cultural marxist fanatics.

Think of the Nazis. And then invert their ideology…and you arrive more or less at where we all are at this rotten point in time.

The Nazis (nationalsocialists) were a leftist ideology with racist elements, in effect a hatefueled hybrid. They were rabid, bloodthirsty savages as we all know.

But the cultural marxist “Internazis” (internationalsocialists) are essentially just the same deal. And this time we – as men and especially as white men – are the new “jews”, convenient scapegoats for all the evil of the world.

Bottomline: I agree with you that liberals are not procreating sufficiently, sure. But I fear they strive the create a fundamentally disfunctional fascist dystopia before they finally get s*it out of the anus of history.

I wrote an article about this on me blog recently:

http://umslopogaas.wordpress.com/2012/03/25/from-dream-to-nightmare-cultural-marxism-and-the-fall-of-the-west/

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The First Joe March 28, 2012 at 10:54

@Mark Plus –
You seem to have missed how the debt owed by the US taxpayer to the Federal Reserve has been growing exponentially since Nixon trashed Bretton Woods in1971. Seems you don’t understand how compound interest works – especially when it’s levied on a continually growing re-financing debt – which is managed by the very people in charge of printing a worthless fiat currency.

Also, even your own link from the Federal Reserve Bank’s very own propaganda department admits to shovelling out $6billion PER YEAR for the Fed and its owners from the NET income. Yeah, it doesn’t mention how much the GROSS was.

And the Fed has been running this fucking Ponzi scam since 1913. Coming up on a hundred years of bleeding the serfs dry.
Pumping out worthless paper, its owners sucking up real assets like gold, oil and land.

Wake up! someone’s screwing you!

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American March 28, 2012 at 11:12

As the perversions of American law enforcement force America further and further into the “new American matriarchy”, we will see more chaos, crime, institutional robberies, ect, ect.
As all these lesbians age beyond their child bearing years, one crime we are sure to see more of is “lesbian baby snatchers”.
Lesbians may do it themselves, or “act in proxy” (like most womens crimes are distributed), by paying someone to do it for them.

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American March 28, 2012 at 11:17

I remember reading a story about a womens baby being cut out of her stomach, and against all the main stream media perversion spinns, it turns out it was another women who cut the baby from the mothers stomach.

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American March 28, 2012 at 11:17

I remember reading a story about a womens baby being cut out of her stomach, and against all the main stream media perversion spinns, it turns out it was another women who cut the baby from the mothers stomach.

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The First Joe March 28, 2012 at 11:17

@Art – No the “stuff about the Federal Reserve” was not debunked by that other guy. The other guy, just read some propaganda by the very people that are sucking all the wealth of the world up for themselves, and went right back to sleep. The other guy is a chump.

It’s not a “theory”. Just follow the trails of ownership of all the big corporates and banks. Follow the money flows. It’s mostly a matter of public record, even some of the immense money laundering comes to light eventually. Open your eyes and see “Who profits?”

The current power elite has been building it’s base for the last 200years (at least)- since the Rothschilds made a massive killing (literally and figuratively) during the Napoleonic Wars. The robber barons & banksters of the late 19thCentury US seeded dynasties who joined the European aristocracy & banksters at the top of the tree. These are the people who run the show. They own the massive corporations, both political parties and all the mainstream media. Literally.

Do you imagine that these families spent generations establishing effective control over the world without planning to do so? Do you believe that they got all that power by being nice and benign? And now they hold so much fucking power, that they are going to suddenly stop ramping up their acquisition and control and play nice??

Ever heard of a magazine called “The Economist”? it’s kind of a big deal among the movers and shakers. It very rarely mentions the anti-bankster, pro-constitution Ron Paul, and then only to trash him. Guess who fucking owns the company that owns the Economist? Go on, fucking guess.

How about Ms Magazine? You heard of that? Gloria Steinem admitted the CIA helped fund that!

If it costs big money to do, the Assholes In Charge are behind it somewhere.

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Mike Brentnall March 28, 2012 at 11:20

“there will be a settling of values to something closer to the global norm, and instead of attempting to enforce one or another concept of “equality,” natural gender roles will quietly start to be taken for granted again. It will take years for this to happen, and in the meanwhile we’ll still have to deal with some of the excesses of the Postwar era…

And in the meantime I’m going to involve myself in some small way in hastening an end to one of the glutted excesses that evolved from the era of safety.

A very recent letter to the president of Canada, the Prime Minister. And to other representatives:

“Dear Ministers and sElected Representatives
Re: FW: [PNmb] Wed, March 28th Webinars – Maintenance Programs & Empowering Women to Bicycle

The following information (underlined above and featured *below) forwarded to your electronic mail boxes, and BCC’d to many others, exemplifies a blatant misuse of public capital. Public capital being that small amount of penalty (taxes) collected by an agency through a levy on a pool of peoples’ labour.

Even though governments extract small amounts of penalized capital from each period of recompense for my and others’ time and labours I find fundings to examples below to be above the polite threshold of tolerance and ridiculously below on the return of investment and good sense. I’m inadvertantly, without my consent that is, contributing to what is featured in this letter?

Imagine, a conference on how to teach only an exclusive group of people, who consider themselves adults yet, on how to ride a bicycle. Ignore the window dressing of “at the same level that men do”. This is the key to decades of acquiring easy other people’s money, at others’ expense.

To address this first issue I have news for all concerned, ‘Get on your bike and push down on one lever with one leg then push down the other lever with the other leg in the same manner and go until you want to stop’. There. Cheque please.

For my worldly wisdom I would have saved a needless expenditure from leaving the pool of penalized fruits of citizens’ labours. Unless of course people actually have to be instructed in something that simple – riding a bicycle. And it appears that many do. Even those who have actually ridden a bicycle. But I object on having played a small part in funding this.

Further savings
Imagine further, the savings of billions of tax generated expenditures if the political will leaned toward examining the main entity that greedily facilitates a picking of taxpayers’ pockets for questionable issues including the bicycle riding example being written about here. When the claims of feminism and feminist supporters are examined, similar conclusions are consistently reached – much of feminism’s/women’s movement claims are groundless, but publicly funded. This politically motivated deliberate display of feigned helplessness expediently extracts resourses from others. It’s obvious to myself and many many others that supporters of feminism’s goals have no problem with living a lie and illusion plus being publicly funded for it. I, however, and many others by the way, take umbrage with such combined deceits.

Could I or respected academics be publicly funded to publicly reveal the “women’s movement’s” factual and moral bankruptcy?
Well?
This being to save billions of more needless expenditure of Canada-wide municipal, provincial and federal public capital.

I invite a response.
A response that actually addresses the main concerns written on above. The decades consistent wasting of tax-payers’ money on the questionable unproven concerns that supporters of feminism have advocated that lead to more wasteage on localized exclusive to one sex only tax-funded make-work programs – like bicycle riding for females only, being one example.

A high number of the homeless in North America happen to be men. I have yet to see this issue be thoroughly addressed. But learning-how-to-ride a bicycle program, for supposed adults, garners public funding. Nor does legitimate yet ignored men’s issues as well receive any ameliorative funding.

Cordially
Mike Brentnall”

*Here’s the issue in question. Apparently this webinar is featured straight across Canada:
“Empowering Women to Bicycle for Transportation
Wednesday, March 28th • 2:00 to 3:30 pm CST
Take in APBP’s annual Women Cycling webinar and learn what it will take to empower women to bicycle for transportation at the same level that men do. Visit APBP’s Women Cycling Project website where you can read the final reports on the Women Cycling Survey, view the 2010 and 2011 webinars on the Women Cycling phenomenon, and enjoy the winning photos from the Women Cycling photo contest”.

Well, whatever. I suffer some fall-out over this. We’re all going to die someday anyhow. And we can’t pick how that is to happen either.
But in the meantime….

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Rusty March 28, 2012 at 11:22

Cecil March 28, 2012 at 09:42
I don’t know where to start with this one man. “White” is hardly a homogenous group, though many try to prop it up as such.

Cecil is just a social construct.

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Rusty March 28, 2012 at 11:38

@Umslopogaas,

Careful, Hitler’s under your bed! Hey, enough with the Nazi B.S., eh? 24/7 for 30 years isn’t enough for you guys? A Holoccaust(TM) memorial on every streetcorner? It is obvious enough to even the meanest intelligence that Hitler and Germans are just guilt-tripping stand-ins for the Devil, used to propagate in-your-face anti-Aryan, anti-White, and anti-Western propaganda. It’s just another tool in your poisionous arsenal along with feminism.

You guys have made total mess of things and your century is over. You’ve destroyed our birth rates in the east (USSR) and the west. We’re talking about how to clean up your mess now.

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Oddsock March 28, 2012 at 11:39

The First Joe

Yes exactly. You need to be careful though or you will also earn the label of conspiracy nut or anti American. They are in the process of blaming socialism or communism or some other feckin ism. I often read the political comments made by such people in total disbelief. They really really still believe voting for republican or democrats will make the slightest difference. Its feckin breathtaking just to see such brainwashing in action, and I mean that literally and with no malice or insult.

All fiat currencies are worthless, it is only history repeating iteslf but this time on a global scale. Fiat currencies come and go, always have done. Big moves are in place or started to replace the US Dollar as world reserve. Then you will see some very serious shit hit the fan I warned about this many months ago but what labeled a tin foil hat conspiracy nut and/or anit American. Its like watching them re arrange the deck chairs on the Titanic while singing the star spangled banner.

Have you watched this ? Fast forward to the 13 minute mark.

The Keiser report

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ivh3RDRFffI#!

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Art Vandelay March 28, 2012 at 11:40

@Art – No the “stuff about the Federal Reserve” was not debunked by that other guy. The other guy, just read some propaganda by the very people that are sucking all the wealth of the world up for themselves, and went right back to sleep. The other guy is a chump.

So you are saying that the profit stated by the Federal Reserve in fact didn’t go to the Treasury, although it was stated by both? What is your proof? Where did the money go?

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Rusty March 28, 2012 at 11:42

Another thing, black and white relations were relatively peaceful before the Marxist/Merchant class takeover. Feminism, open borders, Marxist agitation, stirring up racial problems — it all began from the same source and is all part of the same anti-Western package.

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keyster March 28, 2012 at 11:48

“By the way Price, that LastCrucible guy, who we took a risk and hired as part of our Diversity Outreach, is late for work again. I am dead in the water awaiting the report you assigned to him. Some people think the rules don’t apply to them. You may need to initiate Encorpera’s Level One Corrective Action. Make sure you document everything.”

Elmer – I’m sorry you feel this way, but it’s not your place to point out the deficiencies of your fellow employees in Encorpera to management. You’re being a “whiner” and you’re not being a “team player”…by quietly picking up the slack without complaint.

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Born Free March 28, 2012 at 11:59

@Uncle Elmer – regarding: Filling the Talent Pool with Women.

Mr. Zenger and the people at Forbes need to see this article that clearly shows Men make better bosses.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1302096/Men-best-bosses-Women-just-moody.html

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Art Vandelay March 28, 2012 at 12:15

You seem to have missed how the debt owed by the US taxpayer to the Federal Reserve has been growing exponentially since Nixon trashed Bretton Woods in1971. Seems you don’t understand how compound interest works – especially when it’s levied on a continually growing re-financing debt – which is managed by the very people in charge of printing a worthless fiat currency.

The debt isn’t owed to the Federal Reserve. There is only a small portion on the Fed Balance sheet and this isn’t owed to anyone because the interest the treasury pays as well as the principal upon maturity will show as a profit to the Fed and then be returned to the Treasury. The government is basically borrowing from itself. The same goes for the Social Security Trust Fund by the way, which is just fancy accounting, people pay in their taxes, and these taxes are then used to buy government debt… Now the interest also goes into the Trust Fund, but if you unwind the thing it has to be paid back by the very same taxpayers (and their children). And then there is all that privately held debt. But this is a lot foreign governments and by extension ordinary citizens (through things like insurance etc.).

There is nothing particularly egregious or insidious about how the monetary system works.

And the Fed has been running this fucking Ponzi scam since 1913. Coming up on a hundred years of bleeding the serfs dry.
Pumping out worthless paper, its owners sucking up real assets like gold, oil and land.

Gold and Oil are pretty much useless as assets as they are not productive. You can’t do shit with gold other than sell it. And with oil, well you need to use it on something productive, so it’s probably better to own the place that converts the oil into something people want. What you want to amass is not gold or oil or money. What you want to amass is productive capital, what we like to call wealth. That is mainly land, companies and technology.

Meanwhile, most of the people are chasing money and stuff. And as of late, gold, which is the “next sure thing”.

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Rmaxd March 28, 2012 at 12:23

CBS News Reports declares it’s official Obama’s birth certificate is fake …

The investigation actually shows Obama’s birth certificate on live tv, & point out its not worth the paper its printed on …

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9f86_IxrEw&feature=player_detailpage#t=246s

Americans & their fake presidents … what next kangaroo family courts, & slavery via Child support, & feral mentally unstable white women?

Oh wait … gdmn it, social engineers & their planes flying into building supporters …

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sestamibi March 28, 2012 at 12:25

People are starting to notice the same trends you have. See Philip Longman’s 2006 piece in Foreign Policy, for example:

http://tinyurl.com/3ykeej

I note for the record that Jews are conducting a controlled experiment in this regard ourselves. Contrast such icons of sterility as Elena Kagen and Monica Lewinsky with such as Yitta Schwartz, a Hasid from Brooklyn and the subject of a NY Times article a couple of years ago. Yitta had 18 children, and at the time she died at age 93 she had over 2000 living descendants. The future of Judaism in America is decidedly far more conservative and patriarchal.

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Matt Strictland March 28, 2012 at 12:36

Population decline is a funny thing. Its not all bad and given the world and the US are grossly over-peopled it more of an up than a down. The greatest periods in human knowledge too place with populations 1/4-1/3 of what we have now.

Immigration is really the biggest “down” thing , its the killer and as long as it stops, most societies globally will benefit for a while at least.

In the very short term they get a demographic dividend, few babies and many workers means growth.

This leads to the short term . In the short term nations that have closed borders will have a smaller, slightly older more conservative population and some economic shrinkage . These are not bad things unless ideology mandates growth.

medium term it could be an issue, it means a much slower pace of life and probably a less development. On the upside less war and crime too.

Its only in the long term that its problematic, population shrinkage cannot be kept up forever and eventually either that society will have enough kids or cease to exist.

The risk is that society goes “Japan” and gets stuck on stupid and can no longer allocate resources so that people can have kids.

And for many societies its is a resource issue, the urban elite and the business class are used to having religious and social leverage that encourages the poor and middle to have more kids than they can afford at the level they wish to live at.

When the technology ( The Pill etc ) and conditions stop the responsible from having all those kids this shakes the foundation of the society.

What ends up happening is the ideological and dysgenic reproduce. This is exactly what will bring down modernity hard.

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The First Joe March 28, 2012 at 12:43

@Art – the “payment” to the US treasury is nothing more than window dressing.

There are four points to take on board.

1 – First and most important is to understand how all US currency (except coins) is generated, i.e. who creates the money supply and how.
Basically the US Treasury issues INTEREST-yielding “T-bills” to the Federal Reserve Bank (FRB) which then prints the equivalent amount of paper money Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) or adds the number of FRNs to computer records as requested. i.e. the US gov’t = taxpayer undertakes to pay INTEREST to FRB for the creation of money supply (out of nothing! = “fractional reserve banking”, aka “lying” as I call it, and “alchemy” as the Governor of the Bank of England once referred to it, on the record no less).

The money supply to pay the INTEREST is NEVER created, so REAL pre-existing or produced or stolen wealth MUST be funnelled into the system to cover that shortfall. ALL debt-based fiat currency e.g.s $, £, € acts as a pump moving real wealth from the many to the few (the few who own the issuing bank(s)). This is why interest = usury = theft, and it was banned by most religions until a couple hundred years back.

2 – The debt is never paid off (not since Andrew Jackson brought down the FRB’s predecessor – the 2nd Bankof America) and effectively it is continually refinanced, in a vicious cycle that continually generates new interest charges compounded on the old. So even if the FRB’s propaganda is true, even if they only skim X% off the top every cycle, the overall debt and the overall interest and the size of the sum = X% gets bigger and bigger with every cycle. So the Assholes In Charge get to own everything eventually, one way or another.

3- The Treasury’s policies are set by an advisory board, mostly comprised of FRB insiders. The Treasury does what the FRB tells them to. The US Treasury is not the dog, it’s the tail. The FRB is the dog.

4- They refer to the tranche “paid” to the US as coming out of the NET “profit”. There is no mention of the GROSS turnover, or any deductions that made their way into the pockets of the 13 member banks / families between gross and net.

Nathan Rothschild said (1777-1836): “I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire. The man who controls Britain’s money supply controls the British Empire and I control the British money supply.”

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The First Joe March 28, 2012 at 12:50

Napoleon kicked out the central bankers by the way…

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Rmaxd March 28, 2012 at 12:59

“lesbian baby snatchers”.

Excellent comment by American

Thats what donating sperm to lesbians really is, lesbian baby snatching

It’s legalised child abuse & institutionalised brutalisation of a childs natural biological right for biological parents

Whats even worse, the lesbian & homosexual couples are a protected group under matriarchial politically correct, eugenic population control laws …

Further proof, protecting the minority oppresses & demonises the majority …

Of course its the innocent, the children born to these couples who suffer, for the sake of a minority’s rights

Enjoy your freedom Americans, along with your fake mascot for a president & your brutalisation of third world culture, through your mass media & mass brainwashing of under educated mainstream clutching sheeple …

Feminism & libertarians as a whole, should be wanted for crimes against humanity

They induce white women & lesbian teachers to get away with murder & child abuse in schools & enslave white & black women to welfare

While allowing them to brutalise men who would protect them from the tyranny of social engineering & government

This is whats its about right?

How do you deal with the contigent of man, a society built by men for men, & based on raw primal masculinity, & a male civilisation & our sheer ingenuity?

Allow women to destroy mens right to create a family, & create political correctness to outlaw & deny masculinity & their right to express their masculinity

Declare male children as ADHD & Restless Leg Syndrome, give them feminising drugs & give women free license to be sluts & whores, at the expense of men & their need for family & a male dominated society

So when are we going to call for social engineers & the people who support them, the feminists, the useful idiots who believe in left right wing politics & the supreme courts …

When in fact the supreme courts & your political parties have committed hideous crimes against humanity, AND the societies they live in …

It’s about time we called the feminists for what they are, child mass murderers

& we tried EVERY single woman who aborted their 3 month old babies, for murder & every single freaking feminist for crimes against a society built by men for men

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Oddsock March 28, 2012 at 13:15

Art

Just to add. Consider this, you think Gold is of little use as it does not produce anything.

Ok, stick with me for a mo and ignore the squeals of conspiracy nut.

A fiat currency backed by nothing is worth nothing it is just a simple promisary paper note. The US is bankrupt many times over as are most western countries. As I said earlier there are now clear moves by the BRIC nations to remove the US Dollar as the world reserve and they plan to introduce a world reserve currency of their own. This is well documented. These nations are buying as much Gold and other precious metals as they can. They will probably back this currency with Gold or a basket of precious metals. That is exactly why and how Gold will be and is already the “next sure thing . Anyone with fiat currency of significance is buying Gold and Silver by the boat load. If and when the new world reserve currency comes on line there will have to be a major and I do mean major re evaluation of the price of Gold/Silver. The question is when ?

Perhaps you could also check out fractional reserve banking scam. We have all been shafted by the banksters for many many years.

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Ode March 28, 2012 at 13:26

BTW, I do think there will be some elements of dystopia during the transition. For example, I expect prostitution to become far more prevalent in the West than it has been in many decades, and things could get pretty difficult for the elderly and poor. I think we’ll find that when people have to choose between subsidizing health care and subsidizing feminist projects like Title IX, the majority will choose the former.

I totally agree, but to add to it.
I remember back in the 80′s there were Sci fi movies where the common theme was a future world in which private companies provide services that was usually only provided by the government for example: law enforcement, prisons, education, and public parks. The idea was far fetched back then. In the 1987 movie Robocop, somebody toyed with the idea of outsourcing law enforcement duties to a private company. The results were not always positive to put it lightly. *wink*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9IscZMYYw0

However fast forward to the present in today’s world where the government outsources security functions to companies like Blackwater and SWPL parents spend $10,000 a year sending their kids to pre-school it seems that fiction has indeed become reality.

I expect this trend to continue. As the white middle class starts to shrink so will the tax base to provide society with public services. In the future I expect to see more: private schools, gated communities, privately armed security guards instead of cops, you get the idea… Those who have the money will get to buy these services while the rest of society gets thrown under the bus.

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Mickey T March 28, 2012 at 13:30

RE: March 28,2012-05:21

The comment describing an example of how VAWA is so very unfair and oppressive to men, get’s many times more upvotes than the comment describing how men can actually (easily) start to fight it. Interesting.

BTW- I don’t know if it was mentioned in the link provided, but there is a provision of VAWA called, “Must Arrest” which applies to certain situations and localities etc. And guess who always gets arrested.

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The First Joe March 28, 2012 at 13:46

@Rmaxd – you keep confusing “libertarian” with the common American usage of “liberal” (i.e. in the perjorative American sense = socialist /central planner).

These two things are NOT the same.

Ron Paul is a libertarian, and he is a “paleo”-conservative (old style conservative).

Barack Obama is a “liberal” (in the US sense.)

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The First Joe March 28, 2012 at 13:52

@Oddsock – when? as soon as the US armed forces serving the corporate and banksters interests (see ex-Marine Smedley’s book “War is a Racket”) cease to be powerful enough to enforce the use of the dollar as the world’s trade currency.
They were powerful enough to force it on Iraq (Saddam traded oil for food in Euros) and Libya (Gaddafi was about to issue a Pan-African Gold Dinar!), but I suspect they may trip up in Iran (Iran is running a non-dollar oil bourse) and even ifthey succeed in Iran at the cost of a great many lives…
There’s no friggin’ way they can dish it out to the BRICs too… Which is what? Getting on for HALF the world’s population?

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Rmaxd March 28, 2012 at 13:55

@First Joe

What exactly are you referring to?

I’m on your side btw & fully agree with you, but I’m not sure what you’re in disagreement with…

Cheers …

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Dubcik March 28, 2012 at 14:03

OT
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/margaret-wente/what-if-women-dont-need-guys-any-more/article2379821/

The article is the usual dribble, but the comments give hope. It seems more and more people are calling out feminist BS.

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Art Vandelay March 28, 2012 at 14:13

Oddsock and The First Joe, I know very well how the US monetary system works. I just don’t think the way it works is that bad as opposed to other systems (like the Euro for example or a gold standard system).

A fiat currency backed by nothing is worth nothing it is just a simple promisary paper note.

So you wouldn’t mind handing over all your currency to me? Or to someone else who is more than willing to give you gold or silver for it? Why does that guy, who has been in the Gold/Silver business for a long time even want to make that deal with you?

And you are acquiring gold or silver only to later acquire something else with it. You are not keeping it for it’s utility or to create something of actual value with it. The same way you would exchange your work for currency to later buy food with.

The US is bankrupt many times over as are most western countries.

Nope. You can’t run out of something you can produce out of thin air. Change a few numbers in a computer or mint a $15T coin and the US debt is gone. It is pretty incongruent to say that fiat money is worthless, and anyone owing $15T of that fiat money is bankrupt. My neighbor has billions in Reichsmark. Doesn’t make him rich either. So either the United States is bankrupt or fiat money is worthless, or it is in fact something in between.

As I said earlier there are now clear moves by the BRIC nations to remove the US Dollar as the world reserve and they plan to introduce a world reserve currency of their own. This is well documented. These nations are buying as much Gold and other precious metals as they can. They will probably back this currency with Gold or a basket of precious metals. That is exactly why and how Gold will be and is already the “next sure thing . Anyone with fiat currency of significance is buying Gold and Silver by the boat load. If and when the new world reserve currency comes on line there will have to be a major and I do mean major re evaluation of the price of Gold/Silver. The question is when ?

Here is a little thought experiment: Imagine China and the OPEC states switch to a common currency, backed with gold. They also have their currency float freely. To acquire said currency, the United States can now exchange dollars for said currency, or exchange gold to create said currency. What will happen over time? Especially what will happen to these nations which mostly rely on exporting to the United States when the United States can’t buy from the anymore and their existing Dollar holdings are worthless as measured by their local currency.

Their current account would probably turn negative as they will export more than they import, unless this move tanks their economy. You see this scenario play out in Europe now. It’s not good for anyone.

Your complaint is that now a few of the banks (those that can borrow from the Fed) can create currency. These banks are owned by rich people. Guess who can create currency on a gold standard? Those who own the gold mines and the land where gold can be mined. How many plumbers do you know who also own a gold mine?

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Bill March 28, 2012 at 14:19

You think San Francisco is largely white? You didn’t spend much time there did you?

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Oddsock March 28, 2012 at 14:28

Art

With respect, there is not much point in me trying to explain things to you any further. You would need to do some more research otherwise this thread would go on and on trying to give you a clear breakdown.

This may help but its about 3 hours long but well worth it.

The Money Masters

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXt1cayx0hs

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Epoche* March 28, 2012 at 14:50

BTW, I do think there will be some elements of dystopia during the transition. For example, I expect prostitution to become far more prevalent in the West than it has been in many decades
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i predict this as well, just the other day canada legalized brothels.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2012/03/27/f-brothelinterview.html
from amneus book:
We cannot doubt the existence of matriarchy, which was constantly encouraged by the Etruscans…Marriage as a binding union was certainly unknown to the plebeians; accordingly their children belonged to the mother’s family. This agamous or marriageless relationship still existed at Rome in later times, and was the basis of a widely developed system of free love, which soon changed into different kinds of prostitution.
http://www.fisheaters.com/gb3.html

there are shifts in sociosexual habits as sociosexual habits change as amneus pointed out. a probably national debt crisis would make prostitution much more commonplace….

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Mickey T March 28, 2012 at 15:03

“Ron Paul …..(old style conservative)…”

I guess it was in style back then for conservatives to diminish the power of the military (relative to the time), allow a potential enemy to arm themselves to where they could be a serious world threat , legalize marijuana……….

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keyster March 28, 2012 at 15:19

A city will will go completely insolvent (probably Detroit) and/or a state (probably California). Government services will shut down and millions of government workers will be on furlough or fired…..UNTIL the Federal government steps in claiming the “too big to fail” defense and loan it billions to get by. This will quell the riots in LA temporarily.

A domino effect will ensue as other states fail until no one will loan the Federal government any more money. It will turn into a cash basis business–government services will shutdown, federal workers will be furloughed or fired–chaos and mayhem will be the order of the day in inner cities across they country. The government will set up food depots that provide basics, the military will take over law enforcement as there will be few cops remaining on the job (think post Katrina New Orleans).

States will begin to secede (probably Texas first) and their National Guard will become their military. There will be a great un-gentrification of urban areas as whites leave for more hospitable territories towards the northwest/north mid-west central areas.

This will begin just before 2020 and come to a head by 2026, when .80 cents of evey dolllar taken in goes towards just the debt service, on a $25 Trillion dollar loan. It’s unsustainable and we’re on the brink right now. You have to be an idiot to not see it, assuming you even bother to look. Buy a gun, learn to use it.

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Art Vandelay March 28, 2012 at 15:28

With respect, there is not much point in me trying to explain things to you any further. You would need to do some more research otherwise this thread would go on and on trying to give you a clear breakdown.

Research on which topic? You have addressed none of my points. I have studied the money system in depth, so you can get very technical if you want to.

I could watch your 3 hour clip, but I’d rather hear from you in your own words why you think I’m wrong. Sadly, most people just regurgitate what they hear in other places and don’t challenge each other to think. I like to think over here we are better than that.

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freebird March 28, 2012 at 16:18

There is no such thing as the Council on foreign relations.
They have not been exporting corporations at taxpayer expense to 4th world countries for the last one hundred years.
The members do not pay huge amounts of
money into Congressional and Senate campaign funds.

They do not shelter themselves with Bahamas headquarters and banking to avoid paying US taxes.

The next generation will have no problem paying down the resultant debt.

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freebird March 28, 2012 at 16:29

The missing one trillion dollars went quiet when the towers fell.Who knew?
Nice to have insurance good enough to re-pay the building 3 times over also..

There is no such thing as the Bilderberger group, nor the trilateral commission.

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Charles Martel March 28, 2012 at 17:01

keyster
This will begin just before 2020 and come to a head by 2026, when .80 cents of evey dolllar taken in goes towards just the debt service, on a $25 Trillion dollar loan. It’s unsustainable and we’re on the brink right now. You have to be an idiot to not see it, assuming you even bother to look. Buy a gun, learn to use it.

Great narrative, but I’d add one element. There’ll be a financial free-for-all as highly placed criminals grab for any and all financial assets. MF Global times one thousand. We just had a glimpse of this on March 8th as the Greek government helped themselves to 1.4 billion Euros in customers’ accounts at the Bank of Greece in order to make a bond payment. Think about that. The Greek government STOLE the private funds of individuals and organizations. The Federal government has already floated a trial balloon on “nationalizing” private retirement accounts. Your IRAs, the money you thought you had in your brokerage account, will all be at risk when the S finally HTF.

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Charles Martel March 28, 2012 at 17:05

LastCrucible
Hahahahahaha! Be patient.

Now the real Trayvon story has emerged, are you planning to apologize to the Spearhead community?

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Lovekraft March 28, 2012 at 17:11

Western culture should have a warning label to inform any potential user of the risks involved with adopting it.

Similar to how anyone entering public schools, post-secondary education and the workforce should be given advance notice of the soul-crushing PC orthodoxy he is required to accede to.

Related to this topic? Not exactly. But I think the MRM is in the frontline in doing such warning for future generations, so that they do not get damaged so much by Political Correctness, feminism and Marxism.

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Uncle Elmer March 28, 2012 at 17:15

LastCrucible March 28, 2012 at 08:58

@Elmer

Hahahahahaha! Be patient.

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Dude, what is that gravatar you chose? Looks like some kind of peeled grape or testicle on fire. Maybe that’s your intent.

Reminds me of an animation one of my co-workers did. In addition to posting a photo, you can post an animated gif on Spearhead. Maybe you can make an animated gravatar as well.

For a good time, click :

http://www.the-spearhead.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/hairball2.gif

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Eric March 28, 2012 at 17:17

Price:
We had a discussion on another MRA blog about this very topic recently. One demographic often overlooked is that many immigrants, and whites marrying them will create a new social class in and of itself. The new paradigm would look like this:
1. The Upper Class—not much change since they marry and move in their own circles.

2. The new Middle Class will be largely mixed race due to the foreign influence and values. This will be the better-educated, entreprenuerial class and most of the skilled-labor class. They will be mostly hostile to feminism.

3. The new Lower Class will be largely feminised women, their thuggish sperm-donor mates; and their increasing feral and vicious offspring. Among this crowd feminism and leftist politics will be dominant.

A major paradigm shift will be, because of the increasing brutality and barbarism of the new Lower Class, a greater social/political affinity between the Upper and new Middle Classes than presently exist. This will come mostly out of sheer self-defense.

So, what we’re probably looking at is a future where the society is more split than today; except that the productive and powerful elements will be better educated, more entreprenuerial, and more libertarian in its sociological structure. The lower classes are going to devolve into cesspools of crime and probably be a continual source of instability.

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Avenger March 28, 2012 at 17:57

@Keyster-I don’t see how Romney is going to get any “Hispanic” votes with Rubio. First of all, Cuba is 2/3 Caucasian. These are just Europeans or descendants of Europeans who live on the island. About 10% are Negro and the other 25% are mixed. In Cuba and a lot of other places that the US government refers to as “Hispanic” there are big race and class divisions. The average “Hispanic” that comes to the US is from the lower clases where they are either pure Indian or mixed and someone like Rubio is just another white man who happens to speak Spanish like the Europeans in Spain. He’s also a Mormon.
I’ve noticed that a lot of Americans who never go outside the US have a very distorted view of the world and make judgements based on that small atypical group of immigrants that they see in the US.. people will refer to someone who is clearly Indian looking as Spanish. I have to also laugh when they refer to someone like Martin Sheen as “hispanic” because his real name is Estavez. Sheen’s mother was Irish and his father was Galician from that part of NW Spain where the people are Celtic and 1st cousins to the Irish. Americans also have a hard time understanding the difference between nationality and ethnic group.

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Tree March 28, 2012 at 17:57

@ James

You have hit upon a great Philosophical revelation that I just had yesterday.
Violent Extremism and Feminism are Ying & Yang
Karma is just like the laws of Physics, For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. The women of the western world are about to be overrun by violence.
The Feminists build schools for girls in Afghanistan, the Violent Extremists burn it down. The Violent Extremist (Locusts) know exactly what Feminism (the Great Prostitute) is trying to do to their women.

With so much Feminism in this country, it is only a matter of time before VIOLENT Extremists take hold and begin doing really evil things.
Did you ever see a kid cry and then their father say, “I’m gona give you something to cry about?” That is what is about to happen to the women in this country. Its really sad because half of them don’t deserve what is coming.

Karma is a B!^(#.

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AAvictim March 28, 2012 at 18:10

@Rmaxd

Libertarians have little pull and they are not for the feminist superiority crap. Even if you disagree with the libertarian stance of freedom it is hard to claim it is destroying society when it has so little pull.

@Mickey T

What we have going on now is that most of the military is there just to fund the military industrial complex and to capture certain markets through force or threat thereof. Legalizing marijuana gets parroted in the news but it is simply legalizing freedom of choice, but this does not get ratings.

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Uncle Elmer March 28, 2012 at 19:14

A Poet of Unswerving Vision at the Forefront of Feminism

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/29/books/adrienne-rich-feminist-poet-and-author-dies-at-82.html

“Adrienne Rich, a poet of towering reputation and towering rage, whose work — distinguished by an unswerving progressive vision and a dazzling, empathic ferocity — brought the oppression of women and lesbians to the forefront of poetic discourse and kept it there for nearly a half-century, died on Tuesday at her home in Santa Cruz, Calif. She was 82….

….Triply marginalized — as a woman, a lesbian and a Jew — Ms. Rich was concerned in her poetry, and in her many essays, with identity politics long before the term was coined.

She accomplished in verse what Betty Friedan, author of “The Feminine Mystique,” did in prose. In describing the stifling minutiae that had defined women’s lives for generations, both argued persuasively that women’s disenfranchisement at the hands of men must end.”

I am here, the mermaid whose dark hair
streams black, the merman in his armored body
We circle silently about the wreck
we dive into the hold. …
We are, I am, you are
by cowardice or courage
the one who find our way
back to the scene
carrying a knife, a camera
a book of myths
in which
our names do not appear.

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LastCrucible March 28, 2012 at 19:26

@Elmer

“Dude, what is that gravatar you chose? Looks like some kind of peeled grape or testicle on fire. Maybe that’s your intent.”

That, my “friend,” is called a melting crucible. It’s an actual object used for melting metals, but it is also symbolic. Merriam-Webster Dictionary online defines it thusly: a place or situation in which concentrated forces interact to cause or influence change or development. Another definition given is the following: a decisive test or trial.

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Uncle Elmer March 28, 2012 at 19:34

“That, my “friend,” is called a melting crucible”

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OK, looks like the best one from google(melting crucible images). If you only google(crucible images) it comes up with a bunch of white chicks in funny hats.

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LastCrucible March 28, 2012 at 19:44

@Price

What’s the upper limit on the number of typed pages for an essay?

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Rmaxd March 28, 2012 at 20:15

@EVERYONE When I say Libertarians I mean liberals … Im from Europe so I use them interchangeably to mean Liberal

Im pro Ron Paul, & fully support Libertarians & the Patriot movement …

Im pretty sure ppl know Im referring to liberals in the context of my post …

Again when I say libertarians, im referring to liberals, not the liberty movement …

I fully support libertarians & the libertarian movement …

Cheers

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Charles Martel March 28, 2012 at 20:18

The Hate Crimes You Don’t Hear About

Cleveland, Ohio. A white man on a moped accidentally bumped into a truck being driven by a black man. He fell over but was not injured. A crowd of 40 white people pulled the black driver from the truck and brutally beat him. One of them climbed in the truck and ran over the driver, killing him. The crowd cheered.

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jaego March 28, 2012 at 20:23

Good article about the need to start again and build society from the ground up. Male brotherhood or “gangs” are the basic unit of society. Families can’t exist without them. In the coming ethnic chaos, White will need to stand together to stand at all. By Jack Donovan, MRA and a friend to White Nationalists.

http://www.counter-currents.com/2012/03/the-trouble-with-squares/#more-25103

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W.F. Price March 28, 2012 at 20:41

What’s the upper limit on the number of typed pages for an essay?

-LastCrucible

Well, going at 500 words per page, I’ll say four. But if it’s 2,000 words it ought to be very well-done, and that takes a long time. I recommend about 1,000 words for a first piece, but I’ll take anything you’ve got as long as it’s up to snuff.

Uncle Elmer March 28, 2012 at 20:46

Elmer said:

“But I’ll be damned if I sit here and ignore the murders of hundreds of Black men and women every month in this country just because they were not shot by a White man.”

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No, I did not say that. I posted the text from a black man’s blog. Go back and read the comment and his blog. And I do not justify the killing anyone for something as stupid as their race. I have never assaulted or insulted someone because of their race. I have been physically assaulted myself several times by people of color for no other reason than I am white, and have been insulted more times than I can count for the same reason.

Is your upcoming essay palatable to white audiences? Let me know if you want me to run a Honky filter on it prior to publication.

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Rob March 28, 2012 at 21:09

Well, going at 500 words per page, I’ll say four. But if it’s 2,000 words it ought to be very well-done, and that takes a long time. I recommend about 1,000 words for a first piece, but I’ll take anything you’ve got as long as it’s up to snuff. — WF Price

For men who are writing articles, I have done quite a bit of experimenting with this. One thing you have to realize is that you are talking to men and not to women. Men are visual and as well, we are linear thinking – but linear thinking takes time to think. Also, since the 1990′s, men have increasingly become affected with ADHD, further confounding their ability to read articles that are too long. (Sorry, it’s true).

Every article I write is targeted to be 5 to 7 pages. You lose almost anyone’s attention after 20 minutes on one subject – keeping your articles to a 10-15 minute read will greatly aid you – write part one and part two if you have to.

I have found you can stretch a man’s attention far longer on an article by use of visuals – diagrams or pictures – interspersed about every page or two. Make sure to spend some time surfing for the “right” picture to illustrate your points. What this does is it allows a man to step back from the article for a few moments, and allow the ideas that were just put forth to him to sink in and re-arrange in his mind (as well as being clearly re-inforced visually). After a few moments of reflection to allow thoughts to sink in, it is easier to go to the next concept you are trying to illustrate – after that, try to find another picture that encapsulates your idea, and so on and so on.

This way, I have found, gets far more men to the end of an article than simply writing words without giving “visual thought breaks.”

Here are a couple of examples of using visuals in the middle of your articles:

Marriage is Fraud

Equal but Different

Most people put a visual at the beginning of their article, and then spew off 5 to 10 pages with no break. This is not beneficial to males. Break it up 3 or 4 times, give them a time to rest while looking at a picture, absorb what you’ve said, and have it further re-inforced visually, before moving on to your next point.

It works pretty good.

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Rmaxd March 28, 2012 at 21:22

@Elmer

Adrienne Rich, Camilla Sawainne, Gloria Steinem & the rest of so called popular feminists, are proof of pure hype

Nobody gives a crap about these fake paid for by the CIA activists & sell outs

Adrienne Rich’s article is a padded paid for article, nobody reads them let alone notices them

Also what sort of sufferring do lesbians & women go through, to make Adrienne a hero anyway?

Dont these feminists & liberals even know what a hero is …

All these western women do is promote hysteria, about first world none-problems ..

Right lesbians being persecuted … by who? The fact their deviants & toxic to most normal people, might cause some people to be biased against them …

But since has being biased against verbally & socially cause for hero status?

These women are pure hysteria mongers, about fictitious problems which dont exist

Who in the hell gives lesbians a hard time? Desperate betas ? …

Lesbians in the first world are a freaking joke, the ONLY reason theyre lesbians is PRECISELY because they’re in a first world country …

How many Indian women afford the luxury & welfare to be lesbian, without first world resources

Lesbians, like all women never do any real work, their soft labour & lesbian chic’s paid for by men & tax payers, so lesbians can live in cushy jobs as H.R or advertising

Lesbians like ALL minorities in first world countries, are a subsidised culture

It takes insane amounts of wealth stolen from men, in the form of taxes to pay for none-reproductive & useless genders like lesbianism & homo’s

In any given first world country, its the parasites who ALWAYS call for the theft of mens wealth

For the record lets DEFINE exactly what a lesbian REALLY IS …

Lesbians are parasites on normal reproductive hetro-sexuals

Lesbians are born of hetro-sexual parents, theyre parasites on normal hetro-sexual community

Lesbians contribute NOTHING sexually, or reproductively to society

Lesbians contribute NOTHING financially as theyre a minority too INSIGNIFICANT of any number to contribute anything of significance

Lesbians are parasites on hetro-sexual communities

What exactly are these lesbians suffering?

Do we really have to spell out to lesbians & homosexuals their complete & utter uselessness to a hetro-sexual normal society?

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Aservant March 28, 2012 at 21:32

I finally have to chip in on this discussion between LC and many, in this case Elmer in particular…..

I really wonder what world LC dwells in…….and before you try and run the race card on me, a disclaimer…..yes I am white, but have lived for years in a non-white country, married a non-white woman, and have a mixed race daughter that doesn’t even speak english and we have a very good relationship….

That being said, there has been a virtually crime tsunami against whites by blacks since the Civil Rights Act of the 60s….check the JOD’s statistics on the matter……just for example, in the latest years that statistics are available, there is somewhere over 30,000 white women raped by black men every year….and less than 10 black women raped by white men. There have been hundreds of flash mobs the past couple of summers by only blacks, where scores, if not hundreds, of white people have been seriously assualted. There are many horrific incidents like the Knoxville Horror and Witchta Massaccre against whites by blacks. If there was even one incident in the press comparable to those two where the races were reversed, we would be in civil war, that is how horrible blacks would see it. There is a constant string of assualts, robberies, you-name-it, that result in the murder of 1000s of whites….and of course, personally, I too, have been assualted once and been insulted more times than I can remember by blacks for just being white. Black on white crime outnumbers white on black crime in the neighborhood of 9 to 15 times more frequent.

I could go on and on, but blacks that obsess about this white boogey man that is out to get them have been severely indoctrinated by the mainstream media, and probably academia. This stands reality on its head completely. Actually, at times I think the white man has been the black’s best friend……I would wonder what would happen if there were a few million blacks set down in China or Japan and they started acting like they are acting here in most major cities….I think affirmative action and appeasment would be the last thing the black man would be receiving…..

And obviously, I don’t by the “payback” argument…..my ancestors never had slaves and were screwed over by very badly, much worse than the blacks here, but by other Europeans……do I have a claim with that government?…..Shit….I live in the richest part of the world with the most opportunities…..the same as blacks….and here they have done better than in anywhere else in the world…I know, I will hear it already…”The white man makes the black practice voodoo in Africa and Haiti”……I don’t buy that shit either. I did when I was young and liberal, just like I bought feminism. Now I have too much direct experience……

I know of black men that are much better men than myself….no-doubt….but there seems to be a very pernicious strain among a certain sector of the black community that has well surpased “someone made me do it”….at the very lest, even saying that is true, for blacks to play the roll of the victim today is coming down to quite offensive, almost a spit in the face, considering the reality is the exact opposite. All the whites I know bend over backwards not to offend blacks, even most times when it is only whites speaking among themselves. And then put on top of it that LC went as far as saying more or less that all white people are evil and souless…..who’s doing the killling? Even this Trayton incident looks like a pretty shakey case, and whites get much worse than this almost everyday for just doing things like running a store or sitting in their houses…..want some links?

I really found it unfortunate, because besides this rant that LC had, he seems to be a very articulate guy (Yes…..I said it, a black is “articulate”…so I must be racist) and I remember reading some excellent posts from him……but sometimes, for me, one says things that just can’t be erased…….

So if we’re so evil LC, why do you post on a forum where probably 80% or more of the frequent posters are white? (Just a guess, but it is always being mentioned it seems in conversation that most posters are white. May not be that high, may be less). By the way you talk, if I felt like you do, I would get the fuck away from whites as quickly and as far as I could…….and I definitely wouldn’t have civil discourse with them….yet here we are with you…..interesting…..

It has seemed to me for me for a while that us “evil whites” are just being conned….guilt trips make people vulnerable……

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Aharon March 28, 2012 at 21:32

Charles Martel,

re: ‘The Hate Crimes You Don’t Hear About’

— I went to the linked story and the author later states the opposite occurred (after getting the readers attention):

“Because these acts of brutality didn’t happen exactly as I described above. Oh, they happened, all right. The only thing is, the races of the attackers and victims were reversed. That is, a white man was beaten and then crushed by a mob of 40 black people who were furious that a black man bumped into his truck.¹ In Jacksonville, it was a gang of black men who stomped a mentally-disabled man to death solely because he was white.²”

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LastCrucible March 28, 2012 at 21:39

@Elmer

My essay merely shares what I’m currently enduring with my son’s mother and the criminal courts.

My mistake if indeed those weren’t your comments.

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W.F. Price March 28, 2012 at 21:39

The Hate Crimes You Don’t Hear About

Cleveland, Ohio. A white man on a moped accidentally bumped into a truck being driven by a black man. He fell over but was not injured. A crowd of 40 white people pulled the black driver from the truck and brutally beat him. One of them climbed in the truck and ran over the driver, killing him. The crowd cheered.

-CM

Well, the ironic thing about hate crimes is that since the laws have been passed it’s disproportionately blacks who get convicted by them. Personally, I think hate crimes are a lousy idea, because a crime is a crime — mens rea covers malice and we don’t need to politicize it. It just looks to me like yet another example of progressive whites trying to score yet another meaningless political victory over other whites, while blacks are more likely to have to face the enhanced sentencing guidelines.

There may be more of a crime and violent crime problem with blacks in America (well, there is), but that doesn’t mean the solution is to throw all blacks in jail and treat black men as though they are irredeemable sociopaths. The rate of imprisonment in this country is a national shame, and the way we’ve reversed any progress the black family has made is nothing to be proud of.

My solution would be to empower mature black men and allow the matriarchal superstructure in the black community to wither on the vine. Grown up, mature black men are generally capable of handling their own communities a lot better than the single babymommas who currently reign supreme. The alternative is to lock up black men and have white cops and social workers manage their communities. For some reason, that idea really bothers me. Frankly, black families are no more my business than my own family is the government’s business.

The potential problems I can see there are 1) some local criminal strongman gains control of a community, and; 2) other whites use income disparities/politics as an excuse to meddle. The former could be handled by joint policing, while the latter could be handled by assuring black autonomy over their own polities. So, essentially, my solution is to empower mature black men and let them set their own standards and handle their own communities. Personally, I would really enjoy that, because then I could go visit my black friends and acquaintances where they are in charge and be assured of enjoying myself as a guest rather than a taskmaster. Hell, I wouldn’t even mind living in “their” neighborhoods — I’ve seriously thought about moving to the closest Indian reservation just to get away from the SWPL crap (and taxes) I’ve come to despise.

That said, I like being a white man and defend my culture. Anyone who is ashamed of their heritage is garbage as far as I’m concerned. I suppose that means I have to put up with my own people’s flaws and do my duty, as annoying as it may be to be surrounded by so many SWPL weenies…

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LBK March 28, 2012 at 23:18

Another demographic factor is that the people who have the most children tend to live in rural areas. But not all the kids who are born in the boondocks stay in the boondocks. Out of each generation, the brightest and most ambitious tend to move to large cities in pursuit of education and careers. They become assimilated into the urban progressive culture, and their birthrate falls below replacement level.

Meanwhile, the dull ones who stay down on the farm continue to multiply. Repeated over many generations, this will have a hugely dysgenic effect. Idiocracy is coming.

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Charles Martel March 28, 2012 at 23:23

Aharon
re: ‘The Hate Crimes You Don’t Hear About’
— I went to the linked story and the author later states the opposite occurred (after getting the readers attention):

Yes, that’s the point. It’s an attention-getting device. You NEVER hear of a mob of whites assaulting or murdering a black. But the reverse is routine. There’s a tsunami of black on white violence. Those stories are systematically suppressed by the mainstream media.

I suppose my comment was too subtle. You have to click on the link and read the story to figure out it was a white man who was dragged from his truck by a mob of blacks and then murdered by being run over with his own vehicle.

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Charles Martel March 28, 2012 at 23:37

Aservant
It has seemed to me for me for a while that us “evil whites” are just being conned….guilt trips make people vulnerable……

True dat. The racist white town I live in spends close to a million dollars a year providing high quality educational opportunities for minority students. There are about eighty black students in my town’s public school, courtesy of my racist property taxes. One of these kids has become attached to my very beautiful teenage daughter. They joke around that he is not actually “black” because he takes extra Physics classes in the summer. He’d like to move to my town but apparently his mother refuses: “I grew up in the ‘hood and you will too.” His older brother is (apparently – all I know is hearsay) a drug dealer. I wish him well.

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Aservant March 28, 2012 at 23:47

I said….

“It has seemed to me for me……

One of several typos…..

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Charles Martel March 29, 2012 at 00:16

ActaNonVerba
This is a big part of why I won’t call myself an MRA. So many peckerwoods in the movement talking about men’s rights but the undertones of what they say make it obvious they’re talking about “white men’s rights”.

That’s just not true. As far as I’m concerned you’re very welcome here.

But look, by definition the commenters here are not politically correct. We refuse to kowtow to cultural Marxism. So if we’re willing to speak the politically-incorrect truth on feminism, why would you expect PC bullshit on other social issues? A small minority in your community live up to the worst stereotypes.

“There is nothing more painful for me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery—then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”……..Jesse Jackson

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PeterTheGreat March 29, 2012 at 00:25

NoRest @
“The south has problems. ”

Of course it does. The whole country is imploding because of insane feminism and minority racism.

But the South is still relatively intact. People still care for their family, culture and history. Even after all the political persecution of the Battleflag it is still common to see it on vehicles – new expensive ones, not heaps.

In other word, a healthy core remains that values traditional values. As the liberals kill themselves off, it is normal whites who will ultimately take over. Though it will be harder in the Yankee wastelands.

You know what the difference is between a Yankee and a damn Yankee? The damn Yankee won’t go home.

But if they assimilate Southern values, they become Southerners.

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Rob March 29, 2012 at 02:10

But look, by definition the commenters here are not politically correct. We refuse to kowtow to cultural Marxism.

It is so good to see Cultural Marxism referenced readily around the MRM.

Even though it is still deconstructed by the likes of Boxer – and even at times by Welmer, claiming that Maoism is not feminism. Look at the ideology, Welmer, not the State – America and Britain are both based on Christianity, yet neither could today be described as a “Christian State” Lol! Mao wasn’t even a Marxist, as he diverged from the Comintern in favour of the Chinese State – which makes him a Fascist, rather than a Marxist, which is an International Socialist. – Although, he still used Marxist techniques – but so did Hitler. Marxist techniques are pretty slick.

I have seen so many people discredit Marxism that it sickens me.

Yet, that is where all roads eventually turn, if you wish to study the philosophy of Marxism, rather than the political leaders who followed Marxism and strayed. (Gee, there is another reference I could use! Is all Christianity the same as Henry VIII? After all, he was Christian too!)

Could you define Christianity from Bush II’s reign as President? Must all things Christian be congruent with Bush? I highly doubt it.

It is similarly a ridiculous statement to claim that the Soviet Union was not originally founded upon feminist principles because Stalin changed Lenin’s ultra-feminist policies during WWII, which were based upon Marx and Engles.

The real issue is, once you understand the Marxist angle – which is an ideology like Christianity, and the nature of Marxism (Man is God himself), you simply cannot advocate for “traditional activism” which only creates MORE Marxism, because Marxism has BLATANTLY said they are waiting for you to complete the dialectic – which is really what Marxism is ABOUT – PHILOSOPHY!!!!!!.

This is the part people just don’t want to listen to.

Too many disenfranchised fathers are only thinking of getting a few years (maybe) of mandated custody from the state before their kids become adults. But, far too few of these same fathers are thinking of what form of marriage they are leaving for their sons in the future.

Really… tell me again what is in the best interests of the child.

That he get your love RIGHT NOW,

Or that he inherits a world that makes sense.

Yeah, ok.

If Britain had surrendered during the London Blitz, because of “the Best Interests of the Child,” all the subsequent children would have been forced to live in a world that was NOT in their best interests. So… just how many children were justified dying to create a world that was “in the best interests of the child”?

Not too many fathers would say that even ONE child (especially theirs) is a justified sacrifice. But, anyone with half a brain, and half the emotion, would agree that is not the case. Nobody would allow a parent to hold the fate of the world in their hands while their child was being held hostage. But this is the case with the FRA speaking on behalf of the MRM.

Feminists would also have had us surrender at one child dying from a bomb.

But any rational person, without his own children to talk about, would quickly disagree. The children of Britain, that are now adults today, enormously benefited from ignoring the immediate “benefits of the child.”

Or didn’t they?

Is there any governmental structure that actually benefits men, or ever has?

And suddenly, we are to believe that because MEN are behind this push instead of women, it will somehow remain morally pure, and never be used to harm men.

Anyone with an ounce of historical knowledge knows this is bullshit.

And yet, “the only issue we can agree on” in the MRM, is apparently Shared-Parenting. Indeed! More government has always benefited men, eh?

There ARE other solutions. The MRM just doesn’t want to hear them.

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Nico March 29, 2012 at 02:17

OT:

Feminists outraged that afghan women get punished if they commit adultery:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/28/afghan-women-jailed-moral-crimes

Feminists believe cuckolding husbands is a basic right of the wife.

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DCM March 29, 2012 at 03:10

“Avenger March 28, 2012 at 22:09

Now why would you loser dweebs on here give me the thumb’s down?”

A question containing its answer.

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stonelifter March 29, 2012 at 04:34

Diversity is ripping the guts out of the usa. The more the usa looks like africa and mexico the more it will function like africa and mexico. Not sure I care anymore about a nation that vilifies White men and worships the world’s failures. And that’s on top of the crushing debt, feminism and the rest of our problems. When Whites are gone, America is gone. Just look at Detroit and places like that. Non Whites have not stepped up to fill the gap when White’s leave town.

I figure succession ( if done relatively peaceful) is the only thing that will save some version of America as it was founded/ intended to be and what’s left of Western civilization in our corner of the world

I’m just a dumb farm kid but the one thing I do know is, I’ve done what I can to ensure the success and future of my family. The last step will be moving to somewhere out of the way, White and resource rich.

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stonelifter March 29, 2012 at 04:44

PS
Hate crime laws do not disproportionally affect blacks; blacks commit violent crimes at a much higher rate than everyone else and commit those crimes outside their race much more often.

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MKP March 29, 2012 at 05:51

“I’m just a dumb farm kid but the one thing I do know is, I’ve done what I can to ensure the success and future of my family. The last step will be moving to somewhere out of the way, White and resource rich.

Where?

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Mickey T March 29, 2012 at 07:15

RE: AAvictim=18:10
I was waiting for a comment like yours. I agree (somewhat) with some of what you say, and I can understand why you might say it, but I was only referring to the misapplication of traditional conservative policies and values.

RE:Rmaxd-20:15
Any man in the US TODAY who doesn’t support the Republican Party is a fool or a masochist or has some sinister agenda, and I am oh so weary of explaining why. Anyone who doesn’t understand this might check with Keyster, I don’t think he’d mind explaining it.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I’m not sure I was clear about that VAWA “Must Arrest” thing, The law simply states that the police have to come back to the station house with someone in handcuffs (arrested) and gender is not mentioned. So, the police have to use their own “discretion” as to who to arrest.

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MKP March 29, 2012 at 07:18

ActaNonVerba
“This is a big part of why I won’t call myself an MRA. So many peckerwoods in the movement talking about men’s rights but the undertones of what they say make it obvious they’re talking about “white men’s rights”. Fark you people like that and I could give two sh*ts if you don’t like that, I’m outnumbered, my post gets deleted, whatever. I don’t care.”

The “peckerwood” slur is uncalled for, but your point is valid. This is supposed to be a site for Men’s Rights Activism – for documenting and fighting the abuses of feminism and female supremacy. It’s not a good sign that every post degenerates into descriptions of the black crime rate.

I say this as a white guy that very deliberately chooses to live in a majority white neighborhood, and that, should I ever have children, will send them to majority white schools. But, again – that’s not the point of this site.

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Charles Martel March 29, 2012 at 07:50

It’s not a good sign that every post degenerates into descriptions of the black crime rate.

I agree. But this comment thread is under an essay titled “The Coming Demographic Shift.” And recently there was “Marijuana, Black Boys and the Future of America.” The essay topics have influenced the direction of the comments. I’d happily move away from this though I’m still pissed about what I see as the recent false flag attack citing language and comments that were never made.

The reason these issues keep resurfacing is that the root cause of the feminism problem is an activist Federal government. No Federal government intervention, no feminism problem. So when you become acutely aware of one very visible and prominent special interest group petitioning the government for special privileges at your expense you also see the others. It’s a legitimate overlap of issues, imho, and it’s unreasonable to expect to see strict political correctness on race and gay politics while simultaneously savaging feminism.

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keyster March 29, 2012 at 08:41

I think the tragedy of the once fine nation of Zimabwe is the best (and extreme) example of what would happen if say the New Black Panther Party ruled the USA. Mugabe’s compulsory land redistribution from whites to blacks was an economic and humanitarian disaster. The white citizens, who grew the crops and paid the taxes, were driven out and abroad. The nation remains in turmoil.

Detroit never gentrified because the liberal black politicians wouldn’t allow it. So, like a poorly played game of Sim City, it sits in a state of decrepit squalor, while whites huddle in tony Auburn Hills.

What do blacks want whites to do for them, that they haven’t already tried since 1964? Either assimilate into the majority culture or isolate yourselves by defiantly refusing to adapt and comply with a certian decorum, (other than the gangsta/thug culture).

The Black Culture needs a rennasiance from the victimhood mentality to the “yes we can” mentality, or it will whither and die, right along with the “white guilt” it nurtures and exploits. Everytime a black steps forward and says this he’s shouted down and ridiculed. Enough with the self-pity trip, it’s wearing thin. Look in mirror, he’s your oppressor.

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Peter South March 29, 2012 at 08:56

I think there are going to be a few surprises in the next two years.

When big daddy gov collapses and the welfare system breaks down whitey and men in general will have a renaissance.

Women will either be hos, good girls who snagged a husband/protector or competent in a practical trade which basically means they will all be hos.

We are on the tail end of an era about to start a new one. The old dynamic will end with a number of loud bangs followed by a lot of whimpering from former sacred cows.

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dhanu March 29, 2012 at 08:57
keyster March 29, 2012 at 09:45

“It’s a legitimate overlap of issues, imho, and it’s unreasonable to expect to see strict political correctness on race and gay politics while simultaneously savaging feminism.”

Agreed Charles.
The MRM has whipped the philosophical and factual pleas to humanity to death. You can’t talk about men and boys as a slowly disenfranchised identifiable group vis a vis women and girls, without talking about politics, racism, the Leftist march to government enforced Egalitarian Utopia, and the extinction of the “sovereign individual” (vs. the Statist).

Why can’t Men and Boys (regardless of race), ever be referred to as a specific indentifiable group? Because we’re the elite bourgeoisie, at the heart of Gender Cultural Marxism that must be defeated, and women are the proletariat “working class”. Men MUST become Women and masculinity diminished, before Utopia is achieved.

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Aharon March 29, 2012 at 09:51

“I suppose my comment was too subtle.”

Dear Charles,

Thank you for your response and clarifying what your actual intent was about in your comment.

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cecil henry March 29, 2012 at 09:51

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

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Rebel March 29, 2012 at 10:07

I appears that my personal view of the disappearance of the Caucasian race does not meet much approval.
Throughout history, many races have come and gone, though.
If one takes a look at the reproductive rate of the “white people”, it becomes clear that in less than four generations, the number of individuals will have shrunk into insignificance.

You can even do the maths and calculate with enough accuracy how many people of that race will exist by year 2100. (my own calculation results in less than 10% of present population)

I’m not saying this is a good thing. I am not saying this is a bad thing.
I only state facts and numbers. We all know the cause: self-defeating feminism will put an end to Western civilization. Don’t we all know it already?

The end of one thing always means the beginning of something new.
What would be really interesting to consider and discuss is : what else will take place when we’re gone? What will mankind look like once we become History?

What will remain from the ruins we will leave behind?
Perhaps humans will return to a more simple way of life?

I watched an interesting documentary the other day (National Geographic) on a pack of baboons who suffered food intoxication some twenty years ago. Only the more aggressive alpha males were intoxicated because they would not share the (poisoned) food. All the alpha males died.
The end result was that the pack survived without its alpha males and became much more peaceful. Less stress resulted in better health for the pack and longer lives.

With Western civilization gone, maybe humans will become like those peaceful baboons…

Things are not always what they seem…

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Towgunner March 29, 2012 at 10:11

Hey guys:

Just chiming in. The quickest way to de rail the MRM…MRA whatever we want to call it is to be divided by race. Men are men and we’re all being told that some over privileged waif is more worthy to be alive than all of us! We’re all in this together! Do progressives, liberals and democrats pander to the black vote with handouts…yes, and what good has it done? None! Unemployment among black men is at a ridiculously high level, standards of living have not changed. Sure there are the token black Harvard students, almost certainly females, here and there, so what, I work in high finance…no Blacks here. And that’s Bull because there are scores of undeserving females who have never been for want of anything working in any number of “power” “careers” because they suffer?? Forget about racism or handouts, if anyone knows the failures of state intervention its Black folk. Be smart…that means we embrace them! Thomas Sowell, Alan Keyes…for God sake even Martin Luther King, a personal hero of mine…all are on our side. Gents, we know MRM is working and taking hold…why? Because the system is reacting. The splc’s recent jab is indicative of this. The first thing “they’ll” try to do is break us up with internal divisions. DO NOT FALL FOR IT! Our lack of solidarity in the past was exactly why feminism was so successful. Once again, it’s not some mystical feminine power just recently discovered or released after eons of “oppression”…NO women are where they are in all societies throughout history for very good reasons. Any mystical “power” is among men, we friggin put a man on the moon for crying out loud. feminism was successful because they voted in their success. And being 1/2 the population vs. ~ 12%, pardon me if that stat is off for Black folk, women are a compelling voting bloc especially when they have no issue with race relative to men. Or, better put, hating men is just as appealing to white, black, red or yellow women. Hence our problem. It’s really that simple. If you have racial grievances Black, White, Hispanic, (what the h*ll is the right PC term for Asians?), leave it out of the MRM…hitherto all men are your brother. And if you need extra incentive to see this, make no mistake about it, “they” want to literally destroy men…ALL MEN. And we’re just letting them do it.
There is nothing more pathetic and gut-wrenching to see than a proud man emasculated by a vastly weaker individual. It rips at the soul because it questions the very fabric of reality and the integrity of nature itself. The strong > weak is the melody of nature, that fact alone is a sources of hardship for every living entity but I argue it pales in comparison when the weak take from the strong. At least in the former, the universe makes sense, in the latter the resulting gibberish-world is enough to make you insane. I don’t wish that on any man, and that goes for every one of us.

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American March 29, 2012 at 10:11

Why do the white Gender-Raunch establishment get to send their children to safe and orderly patriarchal type schools, while constructing a matriarchy of chaos, violence, dis-order for every one else??

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Mickey T March 29, 2012 at 10:13

Here are 5 principal reasons why there is a constant struggle for peace between backs and whites:
1) Al Sharpton
2) Jessee Jackson
3) Louis Farrakan
4) Maxine Waters
5) Sheila Jackson Lee

True, these are not the only reasons, but there can never be a meaningful peace with leaders who don’t want peace.

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Aharon March 29, 2012 at 10:17

“I note for the record that Jews are conducting a controlled experiment in this regard ourselves…The future of Judaism in America is decidedly far more conservative and patriarchal.”

I don’t think it is by any means controlled. The Jewish American population itself is going through a time of overall falling birthrates combined with inter-marriage and thus faster than average assimilation. It is usually easier to not be a Jew than it is to be one. Three-fourths of children from inter-faith marriages don’t practice any Judaism. After another generation that remaining fourth typically does not either. Reformed Jews have less than two children and this is where most interfaith marriages occur. In the short to medium term say a few generations, the American Jewish population will continue dropping. Longer term, it will recover since the Hassidic Orthodox emphasize ‘big’ families and many American Jews raised non-religious are disillusioned with modern life’s negativity, materialism, lack of morals, hedonism, etc. Unfortunately (based on my personal observations), few (besides me?) are willing to openly criticize feminism and modern American womyn (Jewish and non-Jewish womyn) for their actions in causing the problems and turmoil that they have to society and their own families. The Hassids (ultra-orthodox) recognize a God that is neither male or female yet One that has masculine and feminine traits. Many of those Hassids do believe that in the future more of God’s feminine traits will come-forth and be revealed upon humanity. That does not mean regarding God in the future as only some divine feminine and that there will be female Hassidic Rabbis. If it does occur then I am probably going to hang-out with the Orthodox Muslims. Seriously, most people are sheeple and morons. While I do at times envy the support system of people who are members of many tight-knit religious communities, I prefer going solo in life.

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Lovekraft March 29, 2012 at 10:26

Price: “the very concept of “men’s rights” is probably going to lose its cachet even as the progressive feminist movement runs out of steam.”

I agree. Don’t expect some grandiose announcement coming from on high declaring us ‘right’. Instead, we will simply be left alone, but we will know deep down that what we did had value.

Ideally, the MRM will morph into more equality in terms of legal representation and an eradication of female entitlement.

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American March 29, 2012 at 10:31

I believe what we are going to see is more conservative states are going to “de-construct” the perverse Alliance between American law enforcement, and gender-feminists.
While the gender-feminists stronghold of the North eastern states are going to try desperatelly to hold onto their perverse “Empowerment Alliances”.
For example, look at the current Utah State trooper (Female) who is being held accounteable for her abuse of the law. That would never happen in the gender-feminist stronghold of the North-eastern states, she just simply would not be held accounteable, and if she was, it would never make it to the press!!

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Aharon March 29, 2012 at 10:35

BTW, it is always a hoot visiting this site for a couple weeks until the comments directly or indirectly blaming Jews for the world’s past few centuries of war and economic oppression becomes too boring to read anymore. Something I find rather interesting and surprising are the large number of thumbs up the anti-Semite comments get. People will believe as they choose. Now, if you’ll excuse me I need to board my private luxury jet to fly out to a private Jewish island in the Jewish Caribbean (those Caribbean chics in thongs are hot!) for another meeting with the Elders of Zion to plan the next Jewish move in taking over the world. See you all in a few months.

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Avenger March 29, 2012 at 10:59

You can’t handle the truth you stupidl litle nerd boys and lower class losers. You really want a wife or even a gf without an advanced degree?Perhaps a GED or”degree” from Podunk Jr. College? About the only place she’d fit in is the local bowling alley or Nascar races.

With so much Feminism in this country, it is only a matter of time before VIOLENT Extremists take hold and begin doing really evil things

Stop indulging in silly fantasies. I realise that you’re bitter because you’ve always been rejected by females and want some revenge but there are not going to be any wars against females lol
When the pendulum swings too far in one direction it always corrects itself so perhaps we will sort of go back to the 60′s or even the 80′s from when before this extreme feminism took hold but how will this benefit you?
Females will still be choosing the same men to marry or just fuck and you may still have to content yourself with the fat fugly female (or none) depending on your status and eliminating feminism is not going to change this anymore than it did in the non feminist 60′s.

“The Feminists build schools for girls in Afghanistan, the Violent Extremists burn it down”

So you don’t think females should be educated? Even if every female was a housewife you don’t want your kids around some uneducated dummy and besides, females may have to work and they’ll need an education.

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Rob March 29, 2012 at 11:50

What I always find so irritating about the Marxist debate is when someone, again, shows up talking about the Illuminati, or the Rockefellers, or thinks that showing the links between the Rockefellers & the Rothschilds somehow “proves” what’s going on.

“What good is knowing all the names in the KGB… if you don’t understand what they do?” – Anatoliy Golitsyn, KGB Defector to the USA

The fact is, it really doesn’t matter a whit if you can prove Karl Marx was related to the Rothschilds through one of their daughters marrying his great-great grandpa or something. If you can’t understand what Marx was trying do then what’s the point of connecting him to others to show who is bankrolling him? (And Gesh! Why go way out on a limb linking in obscure billionaire’s from the past? Hillary Clinton is standing right in front of everyone’s face).

Quite simply, it just doesn’t matter if it is a “conspiracy” or not. If you were standing in the Twin Towers on the morning of 9/11, would you really give a rat’s ass about “who” is behind it, and if the building is going to collapse by naturally occurring physics or by controlled demolition? I wouldn’t give a crap! I would want to get OUT either way!

“Critical Theory, which was defined by a student of the Frankfurt School as the “essentially destructive criticism of all the main elements of Western culture, including Christianity, capitalism, authority, the family, patriarchy, hierarchy, morality, tradition, sexual restraint, loyalty, patriotism, nationalism, heredity, ethnocentrism, convention, and conservatism.”

So, whether it is a “conspiracy theory” or not, look at it this way. Each of those “pillars” listed above has been undermined over the past decades.

Every.

Single.

One.

The whole point of the Frankfurt School identifying these cultural pillars, was to say that if these pillars were destroyed, the chaos that would ensue would collapse those cultures.

So, does it matter if it is a conspiracy or a “coincidence?”

Alright. I’ll agree with you. It’s just a coincidence, so there’s no need to be worried about the consequences of it. Just like, if you determined in your mind on the morning of 9/11, it wasn’t a conspiracy, so there’s nothing to worry about here! Back to your cubicle.

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W.F. Price March 29, 2012 at 11:57

BTW, it is always a hoot visiting this site for a couple weeks until the comments directly or indirectly blaming Jews for the world’s past few centuries of war and economic oppression becomes too boring to read anymore. Something I find rather interesting and surprising are the large number of thumbs up the anti-Semite comments get. People will believe as they choose. Now, if you’ll excuse me I need to board my private luxury jet to fly out to a private Jewish island in the Jewish Caribbean (those Caribbean chics in thongs are hot!) for another meeting with the Elders of Zion to plan the next Jewish move in taking over the world. See you all in a few months.

-Aharon

I think that trend is petering out, Aharon. But on another note, my (half-Jewish) friend recently told me that Yucatan is a popular Jewish destination these days, and he was surprised to see Hebrew along with English on the tourist signs and stores on a recent visit. Evidently, there are even kosher delis and restaurants there, and it’s a popular Jewish wedding destination. Maybe you want to fly the private jet out there. :)

Rob March 29, 2012 at 12:13

Avenger makes a good point when he says the pendulum will swing back, and then asks, “how does this benefit you?”

For example, Angry Harry has often pointed out that when feminists cry of the abuses of women in places like Afghanistan, if you look at the men, they are treated even worse. And, if you look at the “abuses” women endured in the past centuries, you will find that in every situation, men had even worse abuses to endure. It is a feature of human nature. It is just like no matter at what place, or in what time, children are always treated better than adults – it’s just the way humanity works.

So, after Feminism subsides, how will things change? Do you really think it will be any different? Women will still be treated better than men. They have been since the dawn of time, and they will be until closing time.

This is why it is so dangerous to have the MM try to set up things like lobby groups and government bureaucracies to oversee the welfare of men and boys. It is so open ended, and because of the very nature of humanity, means they could perpetually justify their existence until it becomes just another oppressive, statist organization that harms everyone but themselves. It’s so freakin’ open ended and fights a never-ending battle against nature that how could it not be a disaster? If I start a lobby group to “stop the tide” I will forever be able to show the demand for my group is real, because the battle is still not won. See, here comes the tide again. Gimme more power to fight it!

Far better, if you must support some organization, that they have a clear mission statement and acknowledge they will disband after achieving their goal. (Ie. Fighting to remove Bill C-79 from the legislature).

But then, what are the actual goals that men want?

No matter what happens, compared to women, men will still be treated as “lesser” than females. That is simply a feature of human nature that can’t be changed no matter how many laws are made or discarded, nor how many lobby groups are formed to fight the tides.

Accepting this as true does not mean admitting defeat. It means working with the way the world IS, rather than fighting against it. It does not mean men cannot try to create or remove laws which make their lives better – but no matter what happens, at the end of it all, men will still be treated relatively worse than the females in society are.

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sestamibi March 29, 2012 at 13:12

Aharon–

When I refer to a “controlled experiment” I mean that we can test both sides of the hypothesis, namely: “Does embrace of feminism, gay pride, and other fetishes of the Left effect the fertility of a specific group?” In this case, the test group is all secular Jews, and the control group is the Orthodox types who try to insulate themselves from the more pernicious aspects of contemporary society. In social science research it is unusual to be able to conduct such experiments, and one has to draw conclusions from data available.

Other than that, I agree with everything you said.

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Avenger March 29, 2012 at 13:34

But the South is still relatively intact. People still care for their family, culture and history. Even after all the political persecution of the Battleflag it is still common to see it on vehicles – new expensive ones, not heaps

Sounds like a lot of bullshit from some kid who has never been anywhere. And what’s all of this nonsense about a flag of some rebel republic that lasted 4 years and is long gone? You’ll find those redneck flag stickers on these sorts of cars

http://www.holytaco.com/redneck-cars-gallery/

In other word, a healthy core remains that values traditional values. As the liberals kill themselves off, it is normal whites who will ultimately take over. Though it will be harder in the Yankee wastelands.

You know, if New England joined NY and formed their own country they’d be in the top 10 in the world. There isn’t one natural resource they don’t have except perhaps tropical fruit and that can be grown in greenhouses.
Liberals?There are probably more liberals in the South and most of them are still wearing a hair shirt due to guilt over slavery.

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Eric March 29, 2012 at 13:48

Avenger:
LOL, you should try out for the ‘Comedy Channel’. I doubt you’d get voted down there…

“I realize you’re all bitter because you can’t get any females and want some revenge, &c”

No, Avenger, that simply isn’t true. Most us have had very little problem ‘getting females’ in the past; it’s how these females treated us afterwards that has been the problem. As for wanting revenge; most of us have come to realize that our own culture—one which promotes a hatred for, and indifference to, men generally—is largely responsible for aberrant female behavior. The MRM is trying to help men realize the truth and avoid future disasters for themselves and others.

“Eliminating feminism is not going to change things”

Yes it will; because MEN have the power to reject feminist ideology and leave these feminised Amazons alone to their own devices. They have the power to MGTOW or choose women from cultures which also reject feminism. It may change a few of the more intelligent Anglo-American women’s mind about feminism, but if it doesn’t who cares? Men don’t need them anymore.

“How will this benefit you?”
The answer to that is obvious. The quality of Anglo-American women has deteriorated to such a point that men are increasingly cognisant of the fact that a relationship with an Anglo-American female is more trouble than it is worth. True, it’s a negative benefit—men are spared the hell of what such a relationship would involve—but it’s a benefit nonetheless. And, if a man can move on from there and find happiness without these feminised females, the benefit becomes positive.

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Mickey T March 29, 2012 at 15:00

@ Aharon
I grew up in an area where there is probably the greatest Jewish population in the country. The NYC area, I believe has more groups of people than any other place in the country. I had friends, lovers and business associates with almost all of those groups and I have the most praise for the Jewish people. I hope I get the opportunity to tell you why.

@ Peter The Great
I’m from the Northeast and moved South about 23 years ago and I’ve experienced almost all of what you said. If you didn’t mention it, I’d like to add that generally the Southern people just treat each other better than other places I’ve been. There are people here who actually treat me better than most of my family.

Matter of fact I just finished dinner which included a dish my Southern neighbor gave me again.

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Rod Van Mechelen March 29, 2012 at 21:23

Your article makes a lot of sense, but…check out Fred Pearce’s book, The Coming Population Crash. In parts of Asia and India they are already starting to experience a shortage of women. This will spread as men from those regions go global in their search for mates. Women will be “in high demand” relative to men. This might increase the political and cultural power of women, or it might result in real subjugation of women.

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DyingWhite March 29, 2012 at 21:43

“It’s common for racist white people to point out our crime against each other (itself a result of white supremacy/oppression) as if that justifies a racist white person (invariably in a position of authority) murdering a black person for no other reason than he’s black.. When whites such as Elmer do this they only expose they’re own racist mentality.”

Shut the fuck up you savage. Who cares if your sub-iqed kinsman off each other. The problem is you hateful orcs can’t control you murderous impulses no matter how much whitey has bent over backwards for you the past 5 decades and your crimes stats and brutalization of whites is off the charts. Yet the jewish and leftist media gives you creatures a pass and ignore these black on white hate crimes and only trumpet the very few that are the reverse. Then out comes a deluded moron like yourself acting like this is some sort of everyday occurrence when the act opposite is the truth. You creatures really do live in some sort of parallel universe and apparently don’t possess the mental faculties to distinguish facts from reality. Pathetic.

Here’s a website illustrating some of the feral savagery of your kinsman against whites.

http://www.newnation.org/

Here’s another site of a recent murder that the media didn’t see fit to cover nationally, yet if the races were the reversed we would have never heard the end of it.

http://thechannonchristianlieandcoverup.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/channon-christians-black-history-lesson/

So boo hoo….White are wary and racist of blacks? Cry me a river. You think blacks might have earned their reputation perhaps, as opposed to say Asians? Did these vicious black savages who violated and brutalized these innocent whites in these many case love the whites they were slaughtering like animals? Were they not racist? Or are you going to give us the standard sociopathic sob story excuse about slavery, as if that justified any of this brutality? I read the garbage blacks like you spew and it only verifies you’re not fit for human society. SEPARATION NOW!!!

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American March 29, 2012 at 23:25

I have realised that “The Spearhead”, is not a place for folks who are broken inside and wear their hearts on their shirtsleeves.
Very Real issues are being discussed by men here.
Sure many men want to “construct” other side note issues into mens rights topics, but the overall focus remains the same.
VAWA (no matter how many want to make it so), does not give American law enforcement the mandate to persecute innocent people, IT JUST DOESN”T!!!
The truth will be returned as a “Fundemental factor” in American law enforcement, and those who have benefitted (Or Empowered Themselves) from the perversions in American Law enforceemnt will have to face the realisation that their “Empowerment” at the exspense of the innocent has come to an end.

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Mickey T March 30, 2012 at 06:03

VAWA (no matter how many people want to make it so), doesn’t give American law enforcement the mandate to persecute innocent people, IT JUST DOESN’T!!!”

Since the inception it’s in 1994, and in at least one reauthorization version since, VAWA recommend to the states that they implement a “Mandatory Arrest” policy.

As a result of that recommendation, in 2010, 34 states have a mandatory arrest policy for: “ALLEGATIONS of assault” and 21 states have the same mandate for: “ALLEGATIONS of violation of a restraining order”. And, of course there is a he said/she said situation many times. Maybe I should say, “he SAD/she said”.

Since this whole thing began, I can’t even imagine how many innocent men were handcuffed and hauled off to jail because of some lying bitch.

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Peter South March 30, 2012 at 11:18

@DyingWhite
Hats off to you sir.

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Boxer March 30, 2012 at 14:22

another meeting with the Elders of Zion to plan the next Jewish move in taking over the world. See you all in a few months.

If I convert will y’all appoint me as, say, Governor of Washington or something? You’ll need to overlook the fact that I’ll never believe in the mythology of it all, but yeah, sounds like a good deal.

The bigotry here is a good example of why people in the general public will always scoff at men’s rights. The people who claim to be looking after men can’t even spend time among themselves without calling one another a bunch of racial epithets and other nonsense. Your enemies laugh at you, and you are irrelevant as a result.

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Oddsock March 30, 2012 at 14:51

Boxer

Fret ye not. All is well within the MRM Spearhead et al. Our sites are frequented by quite a few people that wish to cause upset and argument and easily done.

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”

― Marcus Tullius Cicero

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Avenger March 30, 2012 at 21:59

@Joe
“See Aaron Russo testifying in interview that Nick Rockefeller told him the Rockefellers funded feminism specifically because…………………

I used to live adjacent to Pocantico Hills and I never heard of any Nick Rockefeller. He is not part of the well known Rockefeller family and I doubt he knows anything about them. Just more Internet disinformation you should ignore.

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Boxer March 31, 2012 at 01:10

Fret ye not. All is well within the MRM Spearhead et al. Our sites are frequented by quite a few people that wish to cause upset and argument and easily done.

I dunno. I leave for spring vacation/reading week and come back to find a KKK meeting here. This place has potential, but if I wanted to whine about “the Jews” all day, I’d go to stormfront. I doubt I’m alone on that.

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Ode March 31, 2012 at 01:57

Avenger

Stop indulging in silly fantasies. I realise that you’re bitter because you’ve always been rejected by females and want some revenge but there are not going to be any wars against females lol

I remember during the 90′s feminism went through the “a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle” phase. The feminists of the day claimed marriage as an institution of slavery or at least an extremely unfair arrangement and that women can live a liberated life free from it. This was not radical feminism this was mainstream feminism from the 90′s that they spoon fed to me in high school and college. The great irony of the situation is that the MGTOW movement today agree with feminists from the 90′s, marriage is indeed an institution of slavery. We just disagree with for whom!

Of course women see marriage differently today, in fact the pendulum has swung the other way and women are now obsessed with trying to get married, notice all the bridal magazines for example. But it’s too late, the baby boomer and gen x females are past their prime so a whole generation of women will have to live the bitter spinster life. Since women are on average inferior wealth produces compared to men a whole generation of women will have to live the rest of their lives in poverty. The greatest tragedy of feminists from the 90′s is that they got exactly what they asked for.

There may not be a war Avenger but there’s definitely going to be causulties but that’s not my problem nor did I have anything to do with it.

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Columnist March 31, 2012 at 06:56

Tree March 28, 2012 at 17:57

In Europe, this is already playing out.

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Migu March 31, 2012 at 07:49

I dunno. I leave for spring vacation/reading week and come back to find a KKK meeting here. This place has potential, but if I wanted to whine about “the Jews” all day, I’d go to stormfront. I doubt I’m alone on that.

The fifth column sent in reinforcements is all.

They lost again. They forget to hide themselves.

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Anonymous March 31, 2012 at 15:55

I have seen polls saying that voters under 30 are more likely to oppose abortion and easy divorce. I’ve thought for a few years that the young Obama voters would become the most conservative portion of the elctorate as they mature, meaning move to the right on economics. Now, party identification has already shifted among them from 2-to-1 Democrat to basically 50-50. Gay marriage is going to happen, but America will move significantly to the right in the coming years.

The mens movement needs to become part of the conservative coalition because that will be the winning side. The left is doomed.

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Rob March 31, 2012 at 21:20

You know, I’ve never spoken with Rod Van Mechelen before, but, I hope people pay attention to him.

He has been around for a coon’s age, and his Backlash Site was one of the first I ever surfed about these issues. Even before finding the hemlock drinking forums that rose and fell afterwards.

He deserves a lot of respect around these parts, and people would do well to surf his site for a while.

I think it’s really cool he’s here and commenting.

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Firepower April 1, 2012 at 08:38

Boner

The bigotry here is a good example of why people in the general public will always scoff at men’s rights. The people who claim to be looking after men can’t even spend time among themselves without calling one another a bunch of racial epithets and other nonsense.

Nah – they laugh at you, because:
even with Your Huggy-World “We’re ALL Brothers Philosophy”
You STILL can’t get anything done but put stickers up over urinals

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Boxer April 1, 2012 at 11:45

Firepower kookfarted:

Nah – they laugh at you, because: even with Your Huggy-World “We’re ALL Brothers Philosophy” You STILL can’t get anything done but put stickers up over urinals

O LOLOLOL! Poodles, what the fuck are you talking about? I’ve never done such a thing.

Methinks someone is low on his medication. No worries though: That disability cheque and the welfare food stamps should be in the mail already. Sucks that the first of the month falls on a Sunday, doesn’t it Poodles?

Now, shut up, Poodles. Nobody gave you permission to speak.

Regards, Boxer

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Mickey T April 1, 2012 at 13:22

Anonymous- “The left is doomed”

I like optimism, but the worst thing we can do is underestimate the enemy.

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Russell April 1, 2012 at 19:23

Rob,
“So, after Feminism subsides, how will things change? Do you really think it will be any different? Women will still be treated better than men. They have been since the dawn of time, and they will be until closing time.”

Female preference is akin to racial preference. Both are derived from deep in our evolutionary past to favour in-group survival from competition from other groups. Racism is now beginning to be recognized as thoroughly inappropriate for the modern world. Female preference is next to be challenged.

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tbc April 2, 2012 at 08:41

racism & feminism are twin evils that should be destroyed. Institutional racism permitted white men from having to directly confront the evils of feminism since the communities in which it was wreaking havoc were not their own. Institutional racism also served the purpose of artificially inflating many beta & even omega white men into alphas by restricting competition in the sexual market place. With the collapse of institutional racism, white communities are now dealing full-on with the pernicious evils of feminism that had long devastated black communities while simultaneously white men have lost their relative advantages vis a vis other men. So racists like to rear their ugly heads anytime they get a chance, somehow believing that the “problem” is “savage Black men,” notwithstanding that Black men have suffered MORE under feminist assault that whites have.

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DyingWhite April 2, 2012 at 10:15

Racism is inappropriate for the modern world? Racism and feminism are twin evils that need to be destroyed? Some of you boys here are really confused. It’s precisely liberals that have been trying to eradicate “racism” and promote feminism by socially engineering society in trying to give women and lower-i.q.ed minorities an unfair leg up in academia and the labor force, making societies less productive and competitive. Liberalism is moral outrage at reality, so liberals have been trying to reshape reality to fit their ideology to society’s detriment, and the decadent results are all around us. If white men don’t pick their balls up off the ground and become racist and patriarchal again really soon, then white people will be demographically replaced by people who are, and whites will go the way of extinction.

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Boxer April 2, 2012 at 16:28

It’s precisely liberals that have been trying to eradicate “racism” and promote feminism by socially engineering society in trying to give women and lower-i.q.ed minorities an unfair leg up in academia and the labor force, making societies less productive and competitive.

Not only are you wrong, but the opposite is true. Liberals promote racism by constantly harping on race, employing hucksters like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton to divide men against one another, and constantly badger people about the topic.

The reality is that men of all colors have far more in common with one another than any of us have with any woman. Furthermore, the biggest manginas I know are white skinheads and other hardcore racists, who are always ready to excuse the shitty behavior of their white hoes in furtherance of worshipping the almighty vagina.

Black racists are just as lousy. Louis Farrakhan put on a convention in the 1990s called “for black men only” and once the poor saps got in there and sat down he spent hours abusing them for not kissing women’s asses enough. All the fault of black women’s shit behaviour and attitude is laid at the feet of black men.

All these liberal race hucksters serve the system which keeps us divided from one another, and as such we are easy pickings.

Regards, Boxer

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DCM April 2, 2012 at 16:59

“Boxer April 2, 2012 at 16:28″

You are absolutely right about liberals and racists.

Females can never be equal to us because all but a handful of them are terrified of responsibility. They want to pretend they are strong, responsible, and decisive and expect everyone to support their delusion. But they expect men to do all the real work.

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Russell April 2, 2012 at 19:40

The point about feminism and racism is to understand where female preference comes from. That it is not a legitimate moral judgement in terms of absolutes that can never be challenged, but just another evolutionary psychological maladaptation. One of the reasons racism is so prevalent and persistent (especially in countries that have not challenged it) is the deep justification and moral righteousness people feel when engaging in racism. This can be intellectually over-ridden and diminished. I suspect the same is true for female preference. People feel it just to be right and proper. The same as racism was once just assumed to be right and proper. Anyone disagreeing was considered a traitor. Please don’t confuse the cultural, social, economic or politically correct influences that are today confounded with racism with the raw, basic and deep feeling that it is right to preference our own group. The point is that female preference in feminism might be more amenable through intellectual means than some people might think.

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DyingWhite April 2, 2012 at 19:47

“Not only are you wrong, but the opposite is true. Liberals promote racism by constantly harping on race, employing hucksters like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton to divide men against one another, and constantly badger people about the topic.”

You’re either being deliberately disingenuous, or are just obtuse. The fact is, the liberal establishment is trying to cow whites into submission to the new world order by harping on white racism, and only white racism, and promoting multiculturalism and non-white immigration into white lands, and only white lands. It’s a policy of genocide and race replacement against the traditional white peoples of the west. Sicking blacks and other minorities on whites is just part of the intimidation and disenfranchisement campaign to get whites to acquiesce to their own demise without a peep. The only people who gain from this are sell-out white economic elites and the non-white minorities you claim you have something in common with who can’t wait to see you go extinct, if you really are white.

Here is an excerpt from an article by one of those men you feel you have more in common with as a man:

From The Jewish Stake in America’s Changing Demography by Steven Steinlight at http://www.cis.org/articles/2001/back1301.html

” I’ll confess it, at least: like thousands of other typical Jewish kids of my generation, I was reared as a Jewish nationalist, even a quasi-separatist. Every summer for two months for 10 formative years during my childhood and adolescence I attended Jewish summer camp. There, each morning, I saluted a foreign flag, dressed in a uniform reflecting its colors, sang a foreign national anthem, learned a foreign language, learned foreign folk songs and dances, and was taught that Israel was the true homeland. Emigration to Israel was considered the highest virtue, and, like many other Jewish teens of my generation, I spent two summers working in Israel on a collective farm while I contemplated that possibility. More tacitly and subconsciously, I was taught the superiority of my people to the gentiles who had oppressed us. We were taught to view non-Jews as untrustworthy outsiders, people from whom sudden gusts of hatred might be anticipated, people less sensitive, intelligent, and moral than ourselves.”

Later:
“For perhaps another generation, an optimistic forecast, the Jewish community is thus in a position where it will be able to divide and conquer and enter into selective coalitions that support our agendas.”

And you and types like you think you can form alliances with the masters of divide and conquer politics? I can’t think of a more jewey agenda of divide and conquer than having spawned second wave feminism and having turned white women against their own men- through academia and through the press. But these are only symptoms of a much greater malaise- one you and those like you prefer to ignore in favor of warring on the softer target of….women? Onward, brave MRM warriors.

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Boxer April 2, 2012 at 20:12

Dear “Dying White” (LOL!)

You’re one of the “new posters” who just arrived with Master V, right? As such, I probably shouldn’t feed into your bizarre delusions, but yeah, you’ve got it all wrong.

When one of the cunning, nefarious jews gets married to a chick (be she Jewish or gentile) and she decides to take him to the cleaners, does he get any special treatment in the divorce courts? Of course not. He gets fucked hard in the ass like any man would. If you had evidence to the contrary, I’m sure you’d post it; but, of course, you don’t. The conspiring Hebrew who you hate so much gets his kids ripped away, gets a huge alimony judgment, and goes to live in the homeless shelter or in a tiny one-bedroom apartment, if he’s lucky.

So you see, of course I have more in common with him. My schlong may not be circumcised, but the fact that we both have one means we are both marked as slaves, to be used and thrown away by a man-hating system. I’m sure I’d disagree with him about the kooky mythology he follows (I consider that stuff pretty silly) but that’s a small thing compared to our mutual, identical social position in the structure of this system, and to me, that’s all that matters.

Now I’ll leave you to continue trying to stir the shit here, blame the jews for everything you don’t like, including your personal failures, and otherwise act the fool.

Regards, Boxer

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DyingWhite April 2, 2012 at 21:11

“Now I’ll leave you to continue trying to stir the shit here, blame the jews for everything you don’t like, including your personal failures, and otherwise act the fool. ”

Pssshhht…..That’s right, punk. Let it all out and let the personal attacks fly. Personal failures? Sounds like you’re the one who got worked over by a woman, CHUMP.

By the way, dullard, did you fail to notice that the topic of this thread was about the demographic shift? And lookie here who’s spearheading the effort:

http://youtu.be/2tFsgo7S8n4

Nightie night, dope.

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Boxer April 3, 2012 at 09:25

Pssshhht…..That’s right, punk. Let it all out and let the personal attacks fly. Personal failures? Sounds like you’re the one who got worked over by a woman, CHUMP. By the way, dullard, did you fail to notice that the topic of this thread was about the demographic shift? And lookie here who’s spearheading the effort:

LOL! Charles Martel Bot! Write us some more looney screeds about the jooz, already. This place needs more comic relief!

Regards, Boxer the crypto-Hebrew-illuminati-mason who was sent by British intelligence to topple the infrastructure of the spearhead by making fun of anti semites.

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Luke June 23, 2012 at 20:00

Relevant paper by a liberal (his other stuff is cr*p, but this one is good):

“The Return of Partiarchy” by Philip Longman

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MSimon November 5, 2013 at 15:48

Regards, Boxer the crypto-Hebrew-illuminati-mason who was sent by British intelligence to topple the infrastructure of the spearhead by making fun of anti semites.

Amusing Boxer.

For the rest:

The easiest way to defeat an enemy is to co-opt them. Frontal attacks are easily resisted. Read your B.H.L. Hart. What you want is to get the “Jews” (Rockefeller is a Jew?) thinking the way you do. They will turn on a dime if they fear demographic collapse will hurt their interests. If power shifts imperil their enterprise.

BTW fractional reserve banking bad as it is has created real wealth for the masses. Real wealth does no good in the mattress. And you can’t steal every last dime or you wind up without customers. So over long stretches of time wealth diffuses. It has to or it can’t be regenerated even with Fractional Reserve Banking (FRB).

Read Katherine Austin Fitts on how narco-dollars are the slush fund/grease that makes FRB possible.

Don’t fight the banks/Jews/Rockefellers. Fight Drug Prohibition.

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