What Motivates Male Feminists

by W.F. Price on March 26, 2012

I watched Kingpin last night just to relax and laugh a bit, and when I saw Big Ern’s charity commercial again, I just had to smile as I thought of Hugo Schwyzer, Manboobz and all the other male feminists out there and what really motivates them.

If you haven’t seen Kingpin, Bill Murray plays this smarmy A-hole professional bowler. He plays it really well. It’s a great movie, both funny and sentimental. A real American classic — I definitely recommend it.

Watch Big Ern’s charity ad below and remember it every time some mangina gets preachy and starts “defending women.”

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Bufface March 26, 2012 at 16:29

1. Men who use it to get pussy.

2. Marxists who use feminism as a tool to destroy society

3. Most import, and dangerous of all. The large number of fathers who have small families and only daughters. The vast majority of these men will be average unimportant men with no real influence. However there are quite a number of highly successful Alpha-type CEOs and politicians that have only daughters (last 3 men to inhabit the White house).

Historically this is a very recent phenomenon that began at the dawn of the 20th century (with the brief interruption of the post-war baby boom) . Lacking a true male heir, they have instead worked to “empower” their daughters at the expense of other mens’ sons.

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Anonymous Reader March 26, 2012 at 16:40

I think that some men just like to be on what they perceive to be the “winning side”. Just like most women.

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Epoche* March 26, 2012 at 16:40

I think the main reason is that many people do not put that much thought into why they support what they support, we live with the progressive/liberal worldview and there really isnt any alternative. People believe what is popular for the most part and the media/government/education systems are supportive of feminism.

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Beltain March 26, 2012 at 16:40

While I am sure some manginas may think they can score by supporting the feminists. Most of the ones I have met have been pussy whipped, government job holding, parents put them through school, jerks who’s wives decided it was easier to just cheat on them than drag them through the family courts. More than likely the mangina husbands were ok with whatever their feminist wives did anyway and the women controlled the money besides. Occasionally one will get left holding the bag when his wife runs off with the horse shoe guy and they still never learn. They typically begin dating yet another feminist within a year or so that they met at some local liberal activist meeting.

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American March 26, 2012 at 16:59

Many of the male feminists i have met seem to be of the more desperate persuasion.
other male feminists i have met are just plain deviants.

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Anti Idiocy March 26, 2012 at 17:16

Fuckin’ great! I have GOT to see that movie!

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Andrew S. March 26, 2012 at 17:23

I think a lot of these guys are just beaten down and broken. Grade School and Junior High, young boys see that girls are the favorites and treated quite a bit better, so why wouldn’t they see the opposite sex as special and more important than themselves? High School is a little better, but not by much. You have a few teachers at this level who don’t play favorites and seem to care about young men, but the programming of “grrrrlzzz rule, boyzzzz suck” has done it’s job, so High-school teachers don’t need to spend a lot of time on getting that message through.

How any boy makes it though this stage without hating himself is a miracle. Of course the super jocks, and more attractive young men seem to make it though this stage with a lot of self confidence, but for most boys it’s a soul killing experience.

And to add fuel to this fire you have a lot of young boys growing up around feminist mothers, who would have preferred to have had daughters, and basically just don’t like boys very much.

Any young man who can make it out of the school system with a sense of self and not hating himself, or feel the need to suck up to women, while also having a single mom/feminist mother is pretty amazing.

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Contrarian Expatriate March 26, 2012 at 17:31

Citizens of the former Soviet Union hated communism, yet many of them continued to join the Communist Party to advance what they believed was their self-interest.

That same principle is at play with male feminists who reason that it is better to tow the feminist party line rather than resist it. What they don’t realize, just as the Communist Party devotees didn’t, is that they are sabotaging themselves by pursuing short term favor.

Any societal ideology will co-opt some of its citizens to betry themselves. Feminism is no different.

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[email protected] March 26, 2012 at 17:32

Jimbo,
I think male feminists have a few reasons for being male feminists. One, they dislike or even hate highly masculine men and see them as enemies. So, helping feminism enables them to cause pain to their enemies. Other male feminists simply believe that being a male feminist puts them on the moral high ground so they can walk around patting themselves on the back and feeling good about themselves. Other male feminist imagine that being a male feminist is a sign of progressiveness and high intellect, another reason they can walk around patting themselves on the back and feeling good about themselves. Often they cannot imagine being wrong about feminism until they get the divorce papers and get sodomized by the feminist legal system that they had always previously supported in “giving it” to their supposed enemies.

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3DShooter March 26, 2012 at 18:19

@Welmer

“What Motivates Male Feminists”

That one’s easy . . . the most powerful drug on the planet – pussy.

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Anonymous age 69 March 26, 2012 at 18:19

It is an inherent part of Anglosphere culture that men treat each other like enemies. Men boast about breaking up marriages, as if they are some superior sort of man for cuckolding another man.

This refusal to cooperate is the reason MRA does not work. Get an effective program going, and other men will stop you.

Women in the Anglosphere are herd animals, and help each other, even when they are dong evil.

Here in Mexico, it is different. Men stand up for each other, and women do not support evil women.

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Anonymous age 69 March 26, 2012 at 18:20

I am not saying men in Mexico never cuckold another man, but if he does, they both screw over her.

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Neil March 26, 2012 at 18:23

OT:

Prostitution law: Ontario’s top court allows brothels, but soliciting ruled illegal

http://www.thestar.com/news/ontario/article/1151925–prostitution-law-ontario-s-top-court-allows-brothels-but-soliciting-ruled-illegal?bn=1

Both the socon manginas and anti prostitution feminazis are out in full force in the comments.

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WRB March 26, 2012 at 18:41

I knew a guy like that in graduate school. In any conversation, he would change topic in less than five minutes and he would then talk about how great feminism is. Otherwise, he was a smart guy and he now is a full professor at Cambridge University in the UK.

In his case this looked like a mental disorder. No, it didn’t win him any pussy.

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Paradoxotaur March 26, 2012 at 18:51

FWIW- Some of the most vigorous MRAs I know are recovering feminists.

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Bufface March 26, 2012 at 18:55

he would then talk about how great feminism is. Otherwise, he was a smart guy and he now is a full professor at Cambridge University in the UK.

Hmmmmmmmmm………..

Could it be he wanted to advance in academia, the most liberal institution on earth??

Seems obvious.

I also knew a guy like that in graduate school (Biochemistry program), except his favorite topic was gun control. He was “president” of the graduate student association and every single one of the e-mails he sent out to the rest of the students was about getting them to sign petitions for this or that gun control measure.

Gotta beef up those liberal credentials if you want a career.

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Uncle Elmer March 26, 2012 at 19:02

The Results Are In: Women Are Better Leaders

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikaandersen/2012/03/26/the-results-are-in-women-are-better-leaders

But till these younger people come fully into power in business, what can we do to change the statistics, and give women a more equitable – and, according to Zenger and Folkman, well-deserved – shot at the corner office?

elmer 9 hours ago :

What can you do to change “the statistics” about women as leaders?

Lie about it, based on hokey opinion polls masquerading as “research”. Seems to be working out pretty well.

Erika Andersen, Contributor 9 hours ago :

Hmmm…so what do you propose is the “lie” – that women are seen as better leaders, or that there are fewer women than men in senior management jobs?

elmer 8 hours ago :

From the website you linked :

“Our data come from 360 evaluations, so what they are tracking is the judgment of a leader’s peers, bosses, and direct reports. We ask these individuals to rate each leader’s effectiveness overall and also to judge how strong he or she is on the 16 competencies that our 30 years of research shows are most important to overall leadership effectiveness.”

If you’ve ever worked at Encorpera, you are aware that respondents will forward positive “evaluations” to reflect on their Diversity Commitment, and that overall, the Archaic White Male knows better than to give a female too negative a performance review.

The “study” is biased as usual to validate the expected results. Try polling these guys on women and leadership :

the-spearhead.com

Erika Andersen, Contributor 8 hours ago :

Interesting. I wonder how you’d discount the more quantitative research that shows that companies having a higher percentage of women in management are more profitable and have higher employee productivity.

elmer 7 hours ago :

I would discount it like this : those companies are enjoying temporary success in profits and perks derived from earlier market initiatives. They feel compelled to pad the structure with females to create an illusion of female empowerment, primarily to keep the Diversity shakedown artists at bay. However, since women focus more on establishing rules for the comfort and security of women, organizational decline in the face of marketplace competition is inevitable.

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Bryan March 26, 2012 at 19:05

Neil -

The same liberals who want to decriminalize drug use and stop the prosecution of the buyer (while keeping up prosecution against traffickers/distributors/sellers/etc) seem to think that with prostitution it should involve prosecuting the consumer/buyer rather than the seller.

So with drugs they want to let the buyer (user) go, but with prostitution they want to come down hard on the buyer (man/john) and let the woman (seller) go. Presumably they also want to give a break to the woman’s pimp/madam.

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Eric March 26, 2012 at 19:16

Price;

I think what really sums up the attitudes of clods like Schwyzer, Futrelle, Fleming, &c. is deep psychological denial. These guys have the same evidence before their own eyes that MRAs have; and they continue to disbelieve what their own senses tell them.

I know plenty of men like that; they think that by their quaint courtly deference to modern feminised females, they can prove their worth. It’s based on a mythology, nurtured from childhood fairy-tales, that every girl is really a Disney Princess at heart, waiting for her Prince Charming to save her from all the Black Knights. In reality, while the White Knights are out fighting the dragons; Ms. Princess is busy doing the Court Jester in the knight’s bed, 99% of the time! These same would-be White Knights, in turn, find all the evidence and blame themselves for spending too much time fighting dragons.

These men can’t let go of their childhood fantasies; they WANT to believe that these feminised Anglo-American Amazons are really victims, and that these men are the heroes these women have been looking for. Somehow, seeing, like the rest of us do—on a daily basis no less— these same women throwing themselves at such ‘heroes’ and ‘princes’ as street bums, abusive thugs, and other dysfunctional perverts only steels the resolve of men like Futrelle to try harder and prove that ‘not all men are like that!’ It never seems to sink into their thick skulls that MOST men are not like that; and that the degree to which a man isn’t is directly porportional to his LACK of appeal to the so-called ‘Fair Sex.’

And of course, feminised women are educated to hate men and see any attempt by the manginas to favor them as ‘patronizing’ and are repelled by it. After all (accepting the feminist premise that all men are unnecessary and inferior to women), how else would they interpret such mangina actions? Women are conditioned by feminists to suspect ulterior motives in men, regardless of a man’s intentions. So, it always backfires on these mangina commentators, yet they still won’t see reality.

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Andrew S. March 26, 2012 at 19:58

Nice post Uncle Elmer. Reminds me of my bank. A pretty conservative bank, it was started in a small town in Kansas. While it’s not hugely profitable, it has done very well. It has quite a few branches in the State, and has been around for over a hundred years.

Evil white men are the ones who started the bank and are responsible for it’s success, but if you go into any one of it’s branches you will see the “female empowerment zone” you are talking about. As far as the continued success of the bank, I would bet Erika Andersen that in twenty years it will not be as nearly profitable or successful as it once was.

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Survivorman March 26, 2012 at 20:07

Pussy begging for fun and profit – it even works.. Sometimes..
But the goods are 2nd, 3rd, or 4th rate at best.

A close friend married a woman with 3 daughters (by 2-3 different men) a few years ago. It lasted ~1yr. I tried to talk him out of it at the time, but he had a bad case of pussy-on-the-brain.

I think he’s smarter now.

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AAvictim March 26, 2012 at 20:22

You can have pussy-on-the brain and not get married. Postpone marriage as long as possible. If she does not want to have relations eventually or breaks up then move on. I don’t know why you would marry a woman that has 3 daughters by 3 different men.

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Andrew S. March 26, 2012 at 20:22

To add to my comment, if in fact in the next 15 or so years my bank has continued success, or at least stays at the level it is now, I will admit that I I’m wrong about these estrogen fueled businesses and corporations. Continued growth and profit in the bank will show me that women in the workforce does make good business sense. My guess though is that uncle elmer is right. That the women taking over these companies, no matter how profitable or successful, will eventually destroy them from within.

Of course if these companies do go to shit, “girl power” will not be to blame, but men will be the reason they fell.

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imnobody March 26, 2012 at 20:41

Well, I was this way when I was young. A complete male feminist. I can’t speak on behalf of others but I can speak about me.

For me, it was everything about indoctrination. Feminism has been presented to me like basic fairness. I swallowed the pill that men had oppressed women for millennia. Of course, I was in favor of fairness so I was in favor of feminism, the same way I was in favor of everyone treated in an unfair way. I was sure that women would be against injustices committed to men, if there were such a thing. It was a question of human decency.

(Nothing to do about getting laid. But I didn’t get laid during all these years).

For me, the first crack in my worldview happened many years ago, when I realized that women didn’t care about unfairness against men (for example, in divorce battles about kids). The cavalier attitude with which women dismissed basic demands of human decency when it suit their interests s was quite a revelation to me. I thought: “If these people – women- don’t care about men’s grievances, why should I care for women’s grievances?”

This was the first step in a long way that led me to MRM.

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Gx1080 March 26, 2012 at 21:34

IMO, having engaged with them on forums:

a)Complete indoctrination.
b)Cowardice. Most of them are Obama voters who sneer at anybody who doesn’t sign for “less bad” politics.
c)Good old white knighting.

Mostly a mix of the three.

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Gx1080 March 26, 2012 at 21:36

On indoctrination, I forgot to add: Devote believers of Big Sister knowing what it’s best for everybody.

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ActaNonVerba March 26, 2012 at 22:52

It is funny, but the truth is those single mom skanks would find a way to get their pound of flesh…..crying rape…..using the turkey baster…….dishing to the tabloids….they’d find a way to make his life hell. Sorry to be a downer.

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Binxton March 26, 2012 at 23:15

Epoche* March 26, 2012 at 16:40

I think the main reason is that many people do not put that much thought into why they support what they support, we live with the progressive/liberal worldview and there really isnt any alternative

You cannot defeat feminism without defeating progressive/liberal worldview. The struggle will be long, difficult, and agonizing. It will not be won by a few battle victories here and there. It will require a tenacity and fanaticism as never before.

We must look towards eternity, beyond fleeting, trendy orthodoxies falsely promising heaven on earth. Those who seek to restore the healthy balance between the sexes cannot settle for reforming society. They must radically change the world.

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Emma the Emo March 26, 2012 at 23:17

It always seemed to me it was all about white knighting and plain old indoctrination. Also, have you heard of this?
http://youarenotsosmart.com/2011/06/10/the-backfire-effect/
You can’t make someone convinced of your point of view, even if you have evidence, if they already have beliefs. That makes me think it’s best to argue not to convince your opponent, but the onlookers.

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evilwhitemalempire March 26, 2012 at 23:25

what is the net effect of a billion men sucking up to a billion women everyday? we all know the answer

why do they suck up? we all know the answer

so why do we have feminism? we all know the answer

you say that fems are too gross to have sex leverage? well, as long as they pronouce that they are for females (as a group) they don’t have to.
they can rely on men agreeing with them to get in the good books with the females that they do want (i’d bet the majority of feminist leverage occurs exactly this way)

what’s the solution? we all know the answer to that too

as long as there is a pussy cartel then females will always be able to write themselves a blank check in life and men will pay for it

but technology can change that

think it can’t?

just off mainstream feminist radar their is a lot of talk about porn ‘desensitizing’ men, rendering them impotent, and etc.

any mra/anti-fem worth his salt should have no trouble understanding that this is really fem-speak for saying that porn competes with real females

no way you say? you’re thinking of porn going up against living 9′s and 10′s
but as TFH said most females arent 9′s and 10′s

furthermore the sex industry is impossible to stop. why? because it is, ultimately, driven by the same force that drives feminism forward
(male sex drive)

(btw that is why the 2nd wavers were unable to ban the stuff and when it became clear they couldn’t THAT is when ‘sex pos’ feminism emerged, sex pos feminism is nothing more that peewee herman tripping down the steps and saying ‘i mean’t to do that’)

for those of you with conservative leanings keep this in mind.
porn isn’t just for hedonist types

it’s good ‘strategic’ antifeminism

a good way to help de-leverage females. and it doesn’t even require that you openly call yourself an mra or anti-fem

in fact you can even say that you’re a feminist!

better still mainstream feminists are largely oblivious (psychological denial) to the credit pussy gets in propelling them forward

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TFH March 26, 2012 at 23:39

Men who use it to get pussy.

Wrong. It is just about the best way to REPEL women.

Manginas are merely men who have no clue how to attract women, and they think appeasing women will get them laid. In reality, they are men without the slightest iota of knowledge on the subject.

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W.F. Price March 26, 2012 at 23:57

It always seemed to me it was all about white knighting and plain old indoctrination. Also, have you heard of this?
http://youarenotsosmart.com/2011/06/10/the-backfire-effect/
You can’t make someone convinced of your point of view, even if you have evidence, if they already have beliefs. That makes me think it’s best to argue not to convince your opponent, but the onlookers.

-Emma

Nah, I’m firmly of the opinion that most people’s “beliefs” are motivated by rational self-interest. I live in Seattle. Seattle is deep blue Democrat, but it wasn’t always this way.

Why is it this way now?

Because since the 1980s private industry has moved out of the city and been replaced by govt. work (the largest employer by far is now the UW, not Boeing). People vote the straight Democrat ticket because that’s where the money comes from.

The reason people reinforce their beliefs in response to challenging new information is that they are closing ranks to protect their livelihood. It’s the same as if some people were invested in a company and someone told them it sucked and another company is better. Of course they would vehemently deny that, whether it’s true or not, because they want their company to stay above water.

If you want to change people’s opinions, simply make it an issue of how they get paid. It is really that easy. There’s a word for it: patronage. Women still support feminism because it still pays off. But not for long — now that American men are tapped out the party’s just about over. Who knows what they’ll do next? Maybe they’ll all try to prostitute themselves to Chinese bankers like the fed.

crypter27 March 27, 2012 at 00:46

Andrew S. They tried to beat me down all through out school,but luckily I was raised by my father which gave me a center that prevented me from becoming. A mangina,my dad use to say women are taking over & he was right! That scene from kingPins told allot of truth about mangina’s,but theres one scene that was totally misandric that depicted. Woody Harrilson getting beaten up by a female actress!

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Gerard March 27, 2012 at 02:27

OT
This Facebook application allows you to declare someone / something your enemy.
http://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-friends-boring-try-getting-some-facebook-enemies-2012-3

I wonder how many people will make feminism their enemy!

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Andrew S. March 27, 2012 at 03:35

Crypter you are lucky. While I don’t hate my mother, and she could have been a lot worse, she still was a feminist. Not a die-hard Dworkin type, but I don’t doubt she would have been much happier with a daughter.

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Geography Bee Finalist himself March 27, 2012 at 03:58

What Motivates Male Feminists?

In Manginaboobz’s case, he is just a delusional faggot lackey who thinks he’s the next big thing in comedy.

Let’s see if he can resist the temptation to make up some pathetic commentary about this explanation on his website.

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Master V March 27, 2012 at 04:02

@Bufface

Most import, and dangerous of all. The large number of fathers who have small families and only daughters. The vast majority of these men will be average unimportant men with no real influence. However there are quite a number of highly successful Alpha-type CEOs and politicians that have only daughters (last 3 men to inhabit the White house).

Historically this is a very recent phenomenon that began at the dawn of the 20th century (with the brief interruption of the post-war baby boom) . Lacking a true male heir, they have instead worked to “empower” their daughters at the expense of other mens’ sons.

….

ARE MALE FETUSES BEING ABORTED IN THE US (AND ELSEWHERE) BECAUSE THEY’RE MALE ?

I seem to know so many couples with only two daughters. Over and over again. Usually they are educated, professional people. Two daughters, two daughters, two daughters….What are the chances of that, statistically?

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Geography Bee Finalist himself March 27, 2012 at 04:11

@ Master V

the male fetuses are probably being aborted for the “crime” of having Y chromosomes.

Let’s hope these fuckers reap what they sow.

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Oddsock March 27, 2012 at 05:24

Imnobody

“For me, the first crack in my worldview happened many years ago, when I realized that women didn’t care about unfairness against men (for example, in divorce battles about kids). The cavalier attitude with which women dismissed basic demands of human decency when it suit their interests s was quite a revelation to me. I thought: “If these people – women- don’t care about men’s grievances, why should I care for women’s grievances?”

This was the first step in a long way that led me to MRM.”

100% Correct and exactly why I say we are all recovering manginas.

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The First Joe March 27, 2012 at 05:30

@Master V – it’s to do with the difference in viability / “scrotum storage time” between sperm with an X vs. sperm with a Y chromosome.
E.g. Returning soldiers who haven’t fucked for some time? Statistically sire more boys.

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Art Vandelay March 27, 2012 at 05:40

The same liberals who want to decriminalize drug use and stop the prosecution of the buyer (while keeping up prosecution against traffickers/distributors/sellers/etc) seem to think that with prostitution it should involve prosecuting the consumer/buyer rather than the seller.

Yeah that’s stupid, because it’s again based on sympathy and feelings, not cold the most effective way to actually solve the problem. If you want to remove certain behavior that you deem undesirable there are two ways essentially, go after supply or go after demand. With limited resources in law enforcement you gotta focus on one. With drugs as with sex, there is always demand. Drugs sell themselves. Sex too. So if you want to remove the problem you would look to lower demand, which would drive supply out automatically – usually in the form of reduced prices and more fighting between the criminal elements. Going after the supply drives up prices which makes crime more lucrative, which would bring more players into the game.

Of course you should boil the question down to whose rights are being infringed. If someone wants to buy or sell drugs there usually isn’t a party getting hurt. Same with prostitution. Same with gambling. It’s only if you leave it to criminals a lot more people will end up getting hurt.

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WRB March 27, 2012 at 06:18

Could it be he wanted to advance in academia, the most liberal institution on earth??

I doubt it, he was genuinely very good in his field (Math) and he deserved the professorship at Cambridge University based on that alone.

I still think it was a mental illness, fortunately for him not the kind that leads to homelessness.

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American March 27, 2012 at 06:27

Like the preious thread on Chivalry, There is Chivalry (protecting women); and then there is a “Perverse” form of chivalry.
The “Perverse” form of chivalry is letting a girl scratch a backwards B in her face and say (And the media inflamed the public with every word) that “3 blacks guys raped me, scratched this backwards B in my face with a knife, and told me to Vote for Obama” and “Inflames” the maases against the innocent; and SHE GETS NO CHARGES AT ALL!!!
This is a form of “PERVERSE CHIVALRY”, that unfortunatelly is being “constructed” into America.

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American March 27, 2012 at 06:32

Another example of chivalry reaching the point of “Perverse”, and unhealthy for a society, is letting girls make rape accusations “BECAUSE THEY DON”T FEEL LIKE PAYING THEIR CAB FARE”, that serves to endanger the cabbies life, while further “Inflaming” the masses against the innocent.
and all she gets for punishment in the current “Gender-Court” is a still warning from the judge.

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Master V March 27, 2012 at 06:32

@The First Joe
“it’s to do with the difference in viability / “scrotum storage time” between sperm with an X vs. sperm with a Y chromosome.”

Maybe. But I’ve seen some stats that were EXTREMELY skewed. And of course sex-selective abortion has been seen. In Taiwan they had to pass a law against it (to prevent female fetuscide).

SHOULD THE MRM LOBBY FOR A LAW AGAINST SEX-SELECTIVE ABORTION? (all, not just of male fetuses)

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American March 27, 2012 at 06:39

As is stated in the previous thread on chivalry… An adult form of chivalry holds women more accounteable for their actions, than the current “Perverse” form of “immature chivalry” that is now the law of the land.

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empathologicalism March 27, 2012 at 06:52

Back in high school, a boy in the back seat could say “Im not like other guys”, she’d then lift up off the seat so he could remove her pants and get what “other guys” want.

They are stuck there, developmentally

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Anonymous Reader March 27, 2012 at 07:05

If you want to change people’s opinions, simply make it an issue of how they get paid. It is really that easy.

Certainly the expansion of the divorce industry over the last 30-odd years bears this out. Follow the money…

So how do the male feminists materially benefit from feminism?

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OPTOUT March 27, 2012 at 07:13

Uncle Elmer,

Excellent posts over at Forbes. I would be curious if Erika would provide this magical quantitative study and the perimeters in which this study was conducted? Just spitting out crap research based on a desired outcome is not scientific. To imply that a study is quantitative when it is based on limited polling criteria is quite unethical.

I could very well claim that I have conducted a quantitative study and my findings indicate that people prefer red grapes to green grapes. If I am only polling individuals who like red grapes I am pretty positive I can control the outcome of that study.

By Ericka’s own admission there are a limited number of women in senior positions. If that were true then the only way to formulate a valid study would be to fire all men in senior positions and replace them with women. The very idea would most likely drive Erika to orgasm.

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American March 27, 2012 at 07:17

IF you wanna change the “Perverse” and “Inflamatory” form of modern American media reporting, then start to hold them finnacially accounteable for the consequences of their “Infamations”.

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AntZ March 27, 2012 at 07:27

What Bufface said, AND:

4) Men who loath themselves because they have violent impulses towards women. Men like this (including Schwyzer) judge themselves by proxy, condeming all other men (99.9% who do not share their twisted thoughts).

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Aharon March 27, 2012 at 07:57

“I seem to know so many couples with only two daughters. Over and over again. Usually they are educated, professional people. Two daughters, two daughters, two daughters….What are the chances of that, statistically?”

Some of the reasons might have to do with the modern polluted toxic environment that we are living in.

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Georice81 March 27, 2012 at 07:59

I have been reading this site for a few weeks now. It is great!

I am struggling with an issue and this site has given me a great insight. I got married almost 8 months ago. I admit that I didn’t know my wife very well but she seemed very nice and is quite cute. After we got married we started having some serious problems. In essence she was a flirtatious woman and in her previous marriages her husbands didn’t care and even encouraged her to do that. She claimed to be a Christian and I thought that was all in the past but alas that was not the case. She tried to change for the benefit of our marriage and for me but that proved to be too difficult for her.

I came home after work early last week to pick her up and go watch a hockey game. As usual she texted me during the day about how much she loved me and so forth. Her last text was at 5:30PM and she was sending me kisses. When I got home 30 minutes later she was gone and I won’t see her ever again. She had been talking to her sister at the same time she was texting me and was making plans to leave. I called her sister and she told me that I was too old fashioned. She didn’t think looking at other men was wrong and so forth. In fact the entire family hates me and it is because of my values.

The day before she had entertained a so-called Christian lady at our home for lunch. This woman also was having problems in her marriage and told my wife some of the details. She also talked on the phone with my wife the day she left. I now believe that this woman put ideas into my wive’s head about leaving me, something she wouldn’t do in her marriage (at least for now). I learned a big lesson and that is to be careful with women even from the church. Feminism has infiltrated everything.

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keyster March 27, 2012 at 08:41

Nothing bad will come out of openly supporting Team Woman in society today; whether among conservatives or liberals. It’s like agreeing with others that ice cream is good and puppies are cute.

But if you even so much as HINT that you’re against feminism or speak of women in the negative, you will be banished and shunned. It’s censorship through intimidation; which is what makes websites like this so neccessary. Men won’t even dare speak of women in the negative in private among themselves out of abject FEAR.

The Perfect Storm for feminism is pedestalizing SoCon white-knights and egalitarian utopist manginas. The Red Pill Collective rejects these identities or concepts. Women are not better and they’re not equal either. They’re different, equal in VALUE to humanity, and as flawed as anyone.

This was the world before Feminism. Gender roles were acknowledged and accepted, supported by religious institutions and the mass media. Once Secular-Progressives infiltrated and rose within Academia in the 1960′s, Pandora’s box was opened. “Tradition” was wrong and oppressive, and critical theory with post-modern philosophy was used to tear it down. You will now bow down to Team Woman by societal decree, or be disenfranchised from society.

Let’s gather a bunch of guys together and fight the Matriarchy!
Talk open and honestly about women and men and feminism with other men. Dude, are you like serious?

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Oddsock March 27, 2012 at 09:09

Keyster

Yes I am sure you are correct and for the most part I agree with much of what you post ( Except for your politics and 9/11 ) However, you still appear stuck with a rather black and white POV as to the way forward and tactics. Ok, fair enough, if you think there is value in “fighting” feminism, go for it, but there is more than one way to skin a cat. You persistently overlook this and will consequently turn potential men, ripe for awakening, away or off.

We must embrace all tactics. Remember, all roads lead to Rome.

P.s Girlwriteswhat appears to be doing an excellent job of spreading the message. I still wouldn’t trust her as far as I could throw her though and that comes from experience knowledge and the Buddha teachings.

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Lovekraft March 27, 2012 at 09:21

http://www.cracked.com/article_19785_5-ways-modern-men-are-trained-to-hate-women.html

From an otherwise hilarious site, here’s another indication that MSM is circling the wagons re MRM validity. The article does have some thoughtful elements regarding the male biological response to a changing society.

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ActaNonVerba March 26, 2012 at 22:52

It is funny, but the truth is those single mom skanks would find a way to get their pound of flesh…..crying rape…..using the turkey baster…….dishing to the tabloids….they’d find a way to make his life hell. Sorry to be a downer.

Perhaps. Perhaps not. I will let you know in time whether this is true from my personal, current experience.

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keyster March 27, 2012 at 09:37

“You persistently overlook this and will consequently turn potential men, ripe for awakening, away or off.”

Ultimately men must consciously choose to “awaken”. You can’t influence a man that doesn’t want it. I’m neutral on other “paths”. Whatever serves to break-through and stick in the mainstream is fine with me. Until then, gains will be incremental at best.

You have to trust a female men’s advocate.
Just don’t get in her way while she does her thing.
Typhonblue is also brutal and everywhere.
The MRA rhetoric somehow seems different coming from a woman, doesn’t it? Amazing how that works!

Prediction: The Supreme Court will rule against ObamaCare 6 to 3, across gender lines and the “War on Women” narrative will re-ignite like never before. You heard it here first.

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keyster March 27, 2012 at 09:38

Should be “don’t have to trust…”.

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Anonymous March 27, 2012 at 10:08

Much of it has to do with the media. True male feminist are just pathetic, it’s the mindless automatons in between that matter. I recently spied a youtube advert of the new “nurse jackie”…she looked like a man, but that’s the exact objective. As humans we’ve never been so inundated by “media”…it’s even at gas stations and in cabs. It matters not what reality may be, it all has to do with how it’s portrayed. Since feminist know this all too well and have used it effectively, I put it as one of the single biggest threats to men. Never mind the story behind hunger games, why is it a women and a girl to boot? This irks me most because having seen women perform in austere environments in the Marines I know just how pathetic and helpless they are. This is why the MRM should support a small government, because once certain entities such as the center for women in the media go away so will there ridiculous portrayals of themselves.

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Oddsock March 27, 2012 at 10:29

Keyster

Point taken.

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ramzpaul March 27, 2012 at 10:35

That video is funny! But in reality, most male feminists are not on the anti-male crusade to get sex. Being a male feminist can get you nice pats on the backs. But even the most hardcore feminist girls are sexually disgusted with such submissive and grovelling men. Being a male feminist is pretty much running anti-game. A male feminist is the sexual equivalent of the obese cougar Mom with a brood of illegitimate children.

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Lavazza March 27, 2012 at 10:41

Some male feminists are just bullies in general and find feminism an excellent vehicle for bullying others.

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American March 27, 2012 at 11:33

Many male feminists careers depend on the missinformation and manufactured statistics that are being made at our local law enforcement offices.
For example, anytime law enforcement use protocol perversions and semantics games to arrest an innocent man on domestic violence charges, and lets the violent beast women go on with no charges, it creates a “incorrect, and or perverted statistic”.
Male (and female) gender-feminists “Empower” themselves by inflaming the public with these perverted and or manufactured statistics.

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justvisiting March 27, 2012 at 12:23

What about the fact that maybe male feminist truly hate men? Like fem gay guys who really loathe straight guys. So it could because of how other guys treated them in high school.

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Towgunner March 27, 2012 at 12:30

Much of it has to do with the media. True male feminist are just pathetic, it’s the mindless automatons in between that matter. I recently spied a youtube advert of the new “nurse jackie”…she looked like a man, but that’s the exact objective. As humans we’ve never been so inundated by “media”…it’s even at gas stations and in cabs. It matters not what reality may be, it all has to do with how it’s portrayed. Since feminist know this all too well and have used it effectively, I put it as one of the single biggest threats to men. Never mind the story behind hunger games, why is it a women and a girl to boot? This irks me most because having seen women perform in austere environments in the Marines I know just how pathetic and helpless they are. This is why the MRM should support a small government, because once certain entities such as the center for women in the media go away so will there ridiculous portrayals of themselves.

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Robert March 27, 2012 at 13:11

Bryan March 26, 2012 at 19:05
Neil -

The same liberals who want to decriminalize drug use and stop the prosecution of the buyer (while keeping up prosecution against traffickers/distributors/sellers/etc) seem to think that with prostitution it should involve prosecuting the consumer/buyer rather than the seller.

So with drugs they want to let the buyer (user) go, but with prostitution they want to come down hard on the buyer (man/john) and let the woman (seller) go. Presumably they also want to give a break to the woman’s pimp/madam.

This has been the norm in Tennessee, a woman’s/feminist’s state. Hence why there are no laws against entrapment. They allow sexually marketable females to get away with selling their wares while destroying a man life if he buys the merchandise. It is a racket

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Art Vandelay March 27, 2012 at 13:30

I think Hugo Schwyzer just has some kind of scam/racket going to bang his students. It’s the perfect setup.

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J March 27, 2012 at 16:46

For a male academic, playing the feminist card might be the first opportunity in their life to be one of the cool guys in school, and to enjoy some of the social status and female attention that they didn’t get when they were the age of their students.

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Ethical March 27, 2012 at 19:13

Neil March: “Prostitution law: Ontario’s top court allows brothels, but soliciting ruled illegal.”

@Neil March
I read it. Now that prostitution is legal in Canada the women are arguing their rights are being infringed on because the law against “living off the avails” means they can’t hire PIMPS (they call it “security”). Of course PIMPING will be okay again when the pimps are employed UNDER their hoes : “Snoop that’s NOT where I told you to hang my robe!” (SMACK!) “Are you TRYING to get me to fire you?”

W.F. Price: “If you want to change people’s opinions, simply make it an issue of how they get paid. It is really that easy. There’s a word for it: patronage. Women still support feminism because it still pays off. But not for long — now that American men are tapped out the party’s just about over. Who knows what they’ll do next? Maybe they’ll all try to prostitute themselves to Chinese bankers like the fed.

@W.F. Price
Hoards of feminists lobbying to sell tail? Wonder if they might bring down the debt? Probably a bad idea though. Sounds like the making of WWIII when the hoes come crying to Big Government after Chairman Hu Jintao says one too many times after enjoying the fruits of American Feminism: “sorry baby, I’m a little tapped out for cash tonight. Let me pay you tomorrow.”

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Ethical March 27, 2012 at 19:55

“True male feminists are just pathetic”

@Towgunner: I’ve met a lot of male feminists from the “creative” world. Some of them have turned pussy-begging via “sensitivity to women’s needs” into an art form of it’s own. It’s the male version of how girls try to “suck up to her so she might like me”. I get a kick out of watching it. When it works the guy ends up under the boot heel of some entitled feminist who treats him like shit. When it doesn’t work he gets slapped in the face by the knowledge that she would rather get boned by an ASSHAT who would send her out in the middle of winter to get him a sandwich WAAY before he would ever get up to open a door for her.

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Andrew S. March 27, 2012 at 22:47

Keyster makes a good point. Adapt or die is basically the strategy male feminists have taken. “Team woman” is a lot better choice right now than team, “women need to be held just as accountable for their choices in life as men.” One team has a rather large fan base, the other does not.

Eventually though the money teat for team woman’s social programs, and the ability to amass massive police forces for the protection of women will come to an end. I’m not sure “grrl power” believes this day is coming, but these programs are just not sustainable. I’m not looking forward to the suffering that will come when people, mainly women can no longer depend on the government for their basic needs. But any society that depends on the govt. as much as we do is doomed to fail. And then we will see if fish do infact need a bicycle.

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D March 27, 2012 at 23:55

I find it amusing that David Futrelle calls his site “Manboobz” to mock misogynist. Yet as a person (judging from Davids picture) who probably has gynecomastia problems, the last thing I would want to call my site is “manboobz.” Do manginas and fembots actually notice this at all?

Some of them, unwittingly, post their facebook pictures and they tend to be huge fatties, who, if they took off their shirts would show the world who the real manboobz are.

David, we all know you stalk on here, like the fat slug that you are. Will you take off your shirt and show us your man boobs? We already got one photo of you (http://theantifeminist.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/david-futrelle.jpg).

Please, oh, please? :)

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The Caliph March 28, 2012 at 02:37

keyster March 27, 2012 at 12:01

“A single guy, kinda beta, with “light action” or none at all, is going to be pigeon holed into a lower middle management box on the org chart. It doesn’t matter how good he his or how hard he works; he hits the “glass ceiling”.

All this will change in within a decade when Millenials like myself in middle management (who are married but know whats up) and thus get keys to senior mgt and the exectuive get to the top.

Trust me, i’ve been doing echo locating on millenials in middle mgt i’m not alone. That glass ceiling will shatter once the boomers retire and hand us the keys to Encopera and their retirement funds.

Make no mistakes MRAs, there are fifth columns like myself within the encopera establishment waiting to pounce. MRM is a multipronged initiative.

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The Caliph March 28, 2012 at 02:38

Posted the earlier comment on the wrong article >.<, was meant for – Despite All the Risks – Why Young Men Still Get Married

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Binxton March 28, 2012 at 03:40

For me, the first crack in my worldview happened many years ago, when I realized that women didn’t care about unfairness against men (for example, in divorce battles about kids). The cavalier attitude with which women dismissed basic demands of human decency when it suit their interests s was quite a revelation to me. I thought: “If these people – women- don’t care about men’s grievances, why should I care for women’s grievances?”

Many other well-intentioned men were fooled as well.

Yes, women do not care about unfairness against men. And they do dismiss basic demands of human decency when it suits their interests.

As men, we wanted to be fair and just towards women. It is in our male nature to protect women, and look out for their best interests. We thought giving in to feminist demands was the morally right thing to do because we hated injustice towards women, and wished to see it corrected.

We now know that we badly misunderstood female nature. We failed to appreciate how fundamentally different women were from men, and we made bad mistakes accordingly — such as giving in to feminist demands.

Female nature is inherently self-centered. Naturally, women lack morality, fairness, and justice towards men, as such concepts are utterly irrelevant to such a nature.

Women cannot be judges of fairness where men are concerned. And men can never again be manipulated into foolishly granting women greater freedoms and choices as penance.

Virtuous women exist not by giving women more freedoms and choices, but by restricting them, and making it clear to women that we demand good behavior from them, or else face discipline and punishment.

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Master V March 28, 2012 at 06:09

OT but watch the Alex Jones interview with Billy Corgan of Smashing Pumpkins fame. BC is in tune with many MRM issues. It’s important to get celebrities on board.

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Andrew S. March 28, 2012 at 08:18

D, that picture is of Futrelle is just sad. As someone who has struggled with weight I know how hard it is. But the guy is such a smarmy little prick it’s not that sad.

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Art Vandelay March 28, 2012 at 09:48

This was linked in another comment, I think it aptly applies to the male feminists:

http://takimag.com/article/diagnosing_passover_syndrome_among_white_liberals/print#axzz1qF5GU2Le

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ahamkara March 29, 2012 at 13:54

I supported feminism for a long time because I had been indoctrinated to believe that it helped both sexes. However, once you get into family court you realize it is a zero sum game. Whatever time each parent gets with the kids, they have to take it away from the other. That is when you realize that feminists are not on your side. They have to fight their own battles and you have to fight yours. This is why I distrust any woman who claims to support MRAs. It’s not their fight, and if they’re fighting for the wrong team there is either an ulterior motive or a lack of understanding of what is at stake. I don’t think there is anything wrong with this; it is an adversarial relationship, it is part of life.

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Columnist March 31, 2012 at 06:59

Promoting abortion rights for men is a good way to troll these fools.

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SMC March 31, 2012 at 17:38

“I think what really sums up the attitudes of clods like Schwyzer, Futrelle, Fleming, &c. is deep psychological denial. ”

No.

Male feminists mentioned are benchwarmer males from childhood. Then believe (correctly) that feminism is a tool to get rid of the starting line up males.

It is all very English, going back centuries. Ie not a coincidence that the culture that created the “magna charter” (a device for leashing a king) is the same culture that created feminism.

The ‘alpha beta gamma’ principle, leading to emboldened and big tent-triangulated-with females.

The so called “alpha male” types that are feminists (politicians etc) are conformist go along get along ring kissers of the zeitgeist.

The solution is to stop competing–make every one the same through bio tech– or kill the losers in childhood.

That’s it. Pick one.

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SMC March 31, 2012 at 17:41


Binxton March 28, 2012 at 03:40

For me, the first crack in my worldview happened many years ago, when I realized that women didn’t care about unfairness against men (for example, in divorce battles about kids). The cavalier attitude with which women dismissed basic demands of human decency when it suit their interests s was quite a revelation to me. I thought: “If these people – women- don’t care about men’s grievances, why should I care for women’s grievances?”

Many other well-intentioned men were fooled as well.

Yes, women do not care about unfairness against men. And they do dismiss basic demands of human decency when it suits their interests.

As men, we wanted to be fair and just towards women. It is in our male nature to protect women, and look out for their best interests. We thought giving in to feminist demands was the morally right thing to do because we hated injustice towards women, and wished to see it corrected.

We now know that we badly misunderstood female nature. We failed to appreciate how fundamentally different women were from men, and we made bad mistakes accordingly — such as giving in to feminist demands.

Female nature is inherently self-centered. Naturally, women lack morality, fairness, and justice towards men, as such concepts are utterly irrelevant to such a nature.

Women cannot be judges of fairness where men are concerned. And men can never again be manipulated into foolishly granting women greater freedoms and choices as penance.

Virtuous women exist not by giving women more freedoms and choices, but by restricting them, and making it clear to women that we demand good behavior from them, or else face discipline and punishment.

Correct.

Maybe next time…

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Kanarya March 31, 2012 at 22:50

I believe male feminists become feminists because they need the approval of others. They are not just needy , they also are unwilling to defend a minority idea that might cost them their status in society and maybe much more.

They are basically cowards.

Instead of standing up to the emotional vampires, he finds other victims of his own kind for the vampire to kill. If you just serve the vampire well, understand the vampire, bring the vampire fresh victims so the vampire can suck his blood and not yours, you survive.

He does not realize the day belongs to him. Vampires can not stand the light. But you don’t sacrifice your own so you can keep living. You sacrifice your own life, trying to remove the threat of the vampire, so that others of your kind can keep living.

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