Revisiting the Misandry Bubble

by W.F. Price on March 9, 2012

For those readers who haven’t yet had the chance to read “The Misandry Bubble,” a piece written by The Fifth Horseman a couple years ago, I’d like to point it out again. The reason it’s on my mind is that TFH has often predicted that those who are invested in the current system would double down on their misandry soon, and that appears to be happening right about now.

The Rush Limbaugh forced apology, the recent concatenation of fathers and other men upset with family law and institutionalized misandry into the far left’s official “haters” list, and President Obama’s shameless pandering to the worst elements of radical feminism are all signs that a backlash against a growing men’s awareness is upon us.

For those who are worried about what it all means, The Misandry Bubble spells it out in a compelling, eminently readable piece (I’d like to see a feminist ideologue write an analysis that long that normal people could finish without either bursting into laughter or giving up in befuddlement).

Here’s the executive summary:

Executive Summary : The Western World has quietly become a civilization that undervalues men and overvalues women, where the state forcibly transfers resources from men to women creating various perverse incentives for otherwise good women to conduct great evil against men and children, and where male nature is vilified but female nature is celebrated. This is unfair to both genders, and is a recipe for a rapid civilizational decline and displacement, the costs of which will ultimately be borne by a subsequent generation of innocent women, rather than men, as soon as 2020.

A passage:

To provide ‘beta’ men an incentive to produce far more economic output than needed just to support themselves while simultaneously controlling the hypergamy of women that would deprive children of interaction with their biological fathers, all major religions constructed an institution to force constructive conduct out of both genders while penalizing the natural primate tendencies of each. This institution was known as ‘marriage’. Societies that enforced monogamous marriage made sure all beta men had wives, thus unlocking productive output out of these men who in pre-modern times would have had no incentive to be productive. Women, in turn, received a provider, a protector, and higher social status than unmarried women, who often were trapped in poverty. When applied over an entire population of humans, this system was known as ‘civilization’.

All societies that achieved great advances and lasted for multiple centuries followed this formula with very little deviation, and it is quite remarkable how similar the nature of monogamous marriage was across seemingly diverse cultures. Societies that deviated from this were quickly replaced. This ‘contract’ between the sexes was advantageous to beta men, women over the age of 35, and children, but greatly curbed the activities of alpha men and women under 35 (together, a much smaller group than the former one). Conversely, the pre-civilized norm of alpha men monopolizing 3 or more young women each, replacing aging ones with new ones, while the masses of beta men fight over a tiny supply of surplus/aging women, was chaotic and unstable, leaving beta men violent and unproductive, and aging mothers discarded by their alpha mates now vulnerable to poverty. So what happens when the traditional controls of civilization are lifted from both men and women?

I’m chuckling a bit about how he predicted Charles Murray’s book “Coming Apart:”

The lower half of the US white population is vulnerable to the same fate as the black community, and cities like Los Angeles are perilously close to ‘Detroitification’.

I highly recommend reading the rest if you haven’t already. It’s good work, and I’d like to thank TFH once again for his stellar effort.

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JFinn March 9, 2012 at 23:54

Off-topic:
CNN: New law stops injustice of paying alimony forever

http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/09/opinion/hitner-alimony-overhaul-pro/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

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Zorro March 10, 2012 at 00:36

@JFinn: And the writer of the op-ed piece, claiming this new legislations hurts women was the same asshat who beclowned herself during the Duke Lacrosse rape fiasco.

Another Harvard lawyer who should be ostracized from media and education. CNN sure gets the worst possible people to write their op-eds.

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TFH March 10, 2012 at 00:53

Welmer,

Thanks again!

You might want to throw in the Southern Poverty Law Center classification of the anti-misandry sphere as a hate group to paragraph 2 (The Spearhead being among those websites profiled as ‘misogynistic’). They have gone from fighting the KKK to condemning Roosh and citing manboobz as a source.

I think that event happened around the same time you put the article up. Uncanny timing. Heh.

Remember, the Four Horsemen of Male Emancipation :

Game
VR Sex Technology of 2020
Globalization
Male Economic Disengagement

Listed first on 1/1/2010, but here and now in 2012, all four seem to be in more visible stages of emergence/diffusion. Just like an orchestra has string, wind, brass, and percussion instruments, all Four Horsemen combine to orchestrate the downfall of institutionalized misandry.

Just 8 more years to go until 2020! The world of 2020 might be chaotic and scary, but I can say with certainty that misandry will be far less of a force than it is today.

The Misandry Bubble has received around 350,000 visits since it was published. It is still about 40% of my entire blog traffic today.

Thanks again, Welmer, for the support. A vast portion of what I have learned has been from here.

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Troll King March 10, 2012 at 01:15

@TFH

How is it that you came up with the timeline of 2020? Is this a educated guess or are you calculating a trajectory somehow?

Could you go into some detail about how you came up with it?

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Nico March 10, 2012 at 01:23

“and citing manboobz as a source.”

lol

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TFH March 10, 2012 at 01:25

How is it that you came up with the timeline of 2020? Is this a educated guess or are you calculating a trajectory somehow?

We can give or take 6-12 months, but that is when it will be :

i) Old whiteknights dying off while younger-generation men (who are more Game-savvy) come about. By 2020, the Bill Bennett generation is gone, and most men alive are born after 1980.
ii) Federal deficits push America near the fiscal cliff that mandates cuts (70-80% of all government spending is a transfer from men to women). It is easy to see that this will come to a head by then.
iii) The GDP of emerging markets will exceed that of the West, making expatriation much easier, as well as more patriarchal cultures flowing into the West, etc.
iv) Technologies that enable globalization will be far more powerful (telepresence, hypersonic air travel, etc.).
v) VR Sex technologies can be predicted for 2020 via simple Moore’s Law extrapolation.
vi) The anti-misandry sphere is growing about 50% a year (a number I think most of the luminaries would agree with). Compound that out to 2020, and we can easily project 10-20 million men who have effectively taken the ‘red pill’.

Those are but a few of the forces that seem to converge around 2020 (give or take a few months).

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ecnayonnA March 10, 2012 at 01:44

i had noticed recently that the feminists had stopped focusing on stopping the message and had decided that it was better to attack the messenger.

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Troll King March 10, 2012 at 01:46

Thanks TFH. I got those points, I was just wondering if you had some sort of algorithm or series of calculations or if it was just back of the book extrapolation.

I think you make great points but I do wonder about the date.

Lets look at emerging economies for a moment. We all pretty much know that women become more selfish, aka feminist, related to their social and civilizational surroundings.

So, how would expating work if the more traditional women in these emerging economies start acting like westernized feminists.

Many might argue that it would take a long time but lets not forget that feminism, second wave that is, came about in the late fifties and by the 70s had completely altered the culture and society to a point where it wasn’t recognizable compared to the 50s. This was before instant communication too and also before the core concepts of womens lib had been drafted.

In a emerging economy like South Korea or China, this could potentially happen within a five year period of time today instead of a 20 year period of time. There are actually already signs that this is happening right now in South Korea and China. I have seen many reports about women demanding various lifestyle choices from these countries since they are now experiencing a economic boom and a emergent middle class along with a transition from agricultural to urban dwelling.

How does that factor in to the misandry bubble?

Or what about VR tech. It is awesome, there has already been more than one 3d porn made but what if something comes along at the same time as the emergent economy scenario I just mentioned?

Say, for example, a resurgence in moralistic attitudes towards porn. Several candidates have actually gone out and made anti-porn stances. We have more and more people talking about pornification of the culture and porn addiction and plenty of female laments about boyfriends more interested in porn. Couple that with the fact that people tend to get more conservative as they get older and how even liberal people get more conservative based on economic conditions and we could see some real hiccups in the emergent VR sex markets.

To be clear, I am not disagreeing with you. I just wonder if a monkey wrench or two could be thrown into the system that would offset the collapse for a decade or more, or slow it down or even potentially speed it up?

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Troll King March 10, 2012 at 01:50

Here are some links that I have compiled in the last couple of hours about the SPLC and how they have labeled us a “hate group”.

http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/qprd2/i_wonder_why_the_southern_poverty_law_center_has/

http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/qprza/the_splc_is_getting_some_push_back_from_reason/

http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/qpv6h/what_is_it_with_feminists_and/

http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/qpx2v/reasoncomthe_southern_poverty_law_center_is_

I have been posting them on r/mensrights, because they got named too, so I will let you guys click on through them and check out the other stuff about it. There must be 15 articles submitted about it to r/mensrights.

It really pisses me off. It is also kinda scary. The FBI takes advice from the SPLC as far as monitoring hate groups goes and any man with custody issues could easily have this used against them in court or even in the workplace depending on their employment situations.

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Zorro March 10, 2012 at 01:53

@TFH: Superb analysis. I look forward to the extinction of the Bill Bennett crowd. But the Joe Bidens are even more toxic. The younger men who have grown up in the cultural sewage of “You go, grrrrl,” “Man-up!” and “The Future is Female” bullshit will indeed be the true red pillers, and they should go expat as they see fit.

I only hope I live long enough to see the economic and social meltdown of the femocracy.

The lamentations of the wimminz…such music to my ears!

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Troll King March 10, 2012 at 01:57

Here is a link, with commentary, about how radicalfeministhub is doing a donation drive to support the SPLC naming the MRM a hate group.

Its ironic cause they literally are a hate group and they literally use language that is classified as hate speech.

They have said things like how they want to kill male babies simply for being male. That fits the definition of hate speech to a t because it is hatefull and ecouraging violence to people based on nothing more than the class or group they belong to.

But somehow we are the hate group…wtf.

http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/qpngh/gendercidal_feminists_at_radfemhub_happy_over/

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E March 10, 2012 at 02:00

TFH

Federal deficits push America near the fiscal cliff that mandates cuts (70-80% of all government spending is a transfer from men to women). It is easy to see that this will come to a head by then.

bingo!
government does not, “Rob Peter to pay Paul.”
instead
government, “Robs Peter to pay Paula.”

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Anonymous March 10, 2012 at 02:02

Off-topic:
CNN: New law stops injustice of paying alimony forever

******************
only because of new wife income being garnished

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Troll King March 10, 2012 at 02:18

Talk about doubling down. And here I have gotten a bit of flak for jokingly and non-jokingly suggesting that we should all vote for women in politics.

Brazilian female president decrees that upon divorce or dissolusion of a relationsip women will inherit government subsidized houses. This was her International Women’s day gift to the women of Brazil.

So basically if you are a homeless man….then FUCK YOU!

http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma/mens-rights-feminism/in-divorce-women-will-inherit-government-subsidized-real-estate-property-decrees-brazilian-president-dilma-rousseff-a-woman

Here is something kinda amusing.

Top ten craziest posts from feministing.
http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2011/02/06/the-top-10-craziest-posts-at-feministing/

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Jacob Ian Stalk March 10, 2012 at 02:51

“and citing manboobz as a source.”

That little pustule has as much real information as a male tit has milk.

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Nico March 10, 2012 at 03:12

OT: Feminists strip naked for a “nude calendar” to support the Egyptian feminist who posted a naked picture of herself on her blog a few months ago:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/maryamnamazie/files/2012/03/NudeRevolutionary_Calendar_2012-13.pdf

They seem to equate nakedness or the right to tease men when they dress like sluts with “freedom of expression”.

How many hundreds of demonstrations and petitions worldwide do they organize each year to try to silence any perceived “woman-hater”?

Yesterday feminist activists tried to have a conference by DSK in Cambridge canceled.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/09/cambridge-students-protest-dominique-strauss-khan

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Lord Valtrex March 10, 2012 at 03:36

A woman’s selfishness expands to resource limits.

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Troll King March 10, 2012 at 03:47

Oh wow Nico, that naked calender is something else to say the least.

Welmer, you should do another beauty contest with just those women in it. Notice that the only one that is above a 4 is the Ukrainian chick and she is a FEMEN topless protester with small boobs.

So many of those women are just gross. Most aren’t even a 2 on my scale. Damn, the ugliest chicks I have banged with beer goggles on are hotter with better bodies than all of those women. Well, except the Ukranian chick, she has a pretty face that is about two points pretty than a few butterfaces I have hooked up with.

Notice how none of them, unless they are fat and even then or unless they are standing at a angle with their belly pooched out, have any sort of curves from their boobs to their hips. Almost all of them have a torso that is a straight line. What is up with that? Must be low estrogen or high testosterone or both.

God, feminism really can be reduced to nothing much more than female attention whoreing.

You even have te co-creator of the slutwalks showing off her pierced clit and tats. lolz.

The slutwalk chick, Sonya JF Barnett, says “I am to be Celebrated not censored.”

Damn, I never thought I would agree with censorship until I laid eyes on her crooked nose.

What the hell is there to celebrate her about, it isn’t like taking off your clothes or dressing like a slut is some kind of accomplishment.

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Alcuin March 10, 2012 at 04:08

While all this 2020 talk sounds nice and gives us all hope, the best thing to do is for each man to prepare for the same old toxic environment, and set himself up – either in the West or overseas – independently of what government, women, or society end up doing. That way, we win regardless of what happens.

I for one am hopeful for change, but am not banking any of my future on it happening. Being as independent as possible, while also building a network of real friends etc. who haven’t been ruined by cultural Marxism and womanism, is the only ticket.

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Journey March 10, 2012 at 04:09

I think it was your feminist beauty contest that drove them over the edge. :)
But the SPLC has just turned into a joke. They’ve gone from combating genuine opression and misery to pointing an official “you’re bad” finger at people who simply point out that things ain’t to good for many many men today. How incredibly pathetic.

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AfOR March 10, 2012 at 04:21
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Epoche* March 10, 2012 at 04:29

There is a built in limit to how much wealth the government can transfer, currently I believe we are consuming capital – we are not replacing the seed corn. The only sources of wealth in the near future will be crime or government patronage. Whether through stupidity or malice our elites could hardly have created a more unstable system.

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Opus March 10, 2012 at 04:50

This week has been particularily bad for the doubling-down. The Oestrogen filled Misandry has been unavoidable.

I don’t know what Obama did but on Thursday the P.M. who (or his staff) usually Tweets a couple of times a day – useful to know what the government are thinking – tweeted no less than Twelve times (!) as it was IWD. Every time he Tweeted I responded and without being repetitious – so I did my best to rain on their parade.

Even my favourite Radio Station got in on the act only playing music written by women . I tweeted back that there was so far no known case that possessing a Vagina improved musical composition. Of course now that is all over, it is back to Evil-Penis Mysogynists like Beeethoven and Brahms and Boulez.

This week is also WOW; that is a festival celebrating women’s Strength and Invention. What strength? – perhaps the sort that persuades women to avoid becoming road diggers or truck drivers, or enables them to avoid being assaulted by men as is apparently always happening if you believe the $PLC. As for Inventiveness, I simply cannot think of a female invention, apart from shopping and complaining, but I keep an open mind – and I know they neither invented the World Wide Web or that clever Dyson Vacuum Cleaner or the Micro Wave (all British inventions by the way).

And tomorrow is Mother’s day – so expect more outpourings from the Manginas. Why by the way are the most cringeworthy pedestalising Tweets from young Black men? Are they being deludedly sincere or merely opportunistic?

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Anonymous March 10, 2012 at 04:50

“The individual has always had to struggle from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.”
- Friedrich Nietschze

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William the Just March 10, 2012 at 04:52

Been writing “The Misandry Bubble” on post-it notes and sticking them above the urinals at my university for the last couple of months. Sowing the seeds of discontent and such.

Also, congratulations on officially being labeled a “hate site”! When that happens, you know you’re pissing off people in powerful places and therefore on the right track. Lots of Code Black speech floating around.

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Canadian March 10, 2012 at 05:21

I ready Alcuin’s blog on almost a daily basis and now I no longer have access to it because of Google’s new privacy settings or something like that. It is quite disappointing, perhaps you could blog at WordPress or Blogspot instead Alcuin, I don’t want to miss anything new that you write.

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Licorne Negro March 10, 2012 at 05:46

Off-Topic: Alcuin, why I cannot read your blog? It says I need to have an invitation. :(

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Will March 10, 2012 at 06:03

I think it could go either way, i.e. collapse of misandry first OR full implementation of Marxism with conscripted labor force – i.e. you will be forced to work for your “2 hots and a cot”. The soviet union soldiered on for 70+ years, so likewise a western marxist state may be able to continue for decades before succumbing to its own internal contradictions.

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Will March 10, 2012 at 06:13

I should add it won’t be called Marxism based on the fact that you can implement almost any ideology as long as you don’t call it by its true name but label it as something else.

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Höllenhund March 10, 2012 at 06:25

Expatting is obviously only a personal solution, one among many, and I’d argue there’s only a narrow window of opportunity for it. After all, feminism is emerging in developing countries like Egypt, Saudi Arabia, India, Iran, China, Latin American countries etc., NOT disappearing. Feminism in Eastern Europe is pretty much thriving. The Four Horsemen of Sexual Apocalypse are riding into more and more nations. Young Western men shouldn’t delude themselves into thinking that they will be able to run off to some fantastic male-friendly country.

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Will March 10, 2012 at 06:50

OT: from the daily mail article, “the law doesn’t give a damm about fathers”

comment:

“25% of men are bringing up children who, unknown to them, are not their bioigical offspring. – Matt Munro, Bristol, UK, 10/3/2012 10:03

You are obviously referring to the figures from the TV documentary of about eight years ago. If you remember, the 25% figure was only the given _minimum_ number of men who wrongly consider themselves to be fathers. The actual figure is likely to be higher. The study found that around 30% of children tested were not related to the man named on their birth certificates.

It was that study that finally persuaded the previous government to shelve the idea of universal DNA testing for ID cards. It was pointed out that if such a database became publicly accessible under a future freedom of information act, millions of women would be left without financial support from their children’s supposed fathers.
- A. Schopenhauer, Berlin, 10/3/2012 11:00″

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2112905/The-law-doesnt-damn-fathers.html#ixzz1oj2s6rlE

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Rocco March 10, 2012 at 07:21

@ Hollubund

That’s not true. You cannot compare the lack of social freedom in the now near completely nationalist-socialist Anglosphere who thought they beat Germany but truly succumbed to Sweden in it’s social policy with nations with completely different ideas like the remnants of the Khmer Kingdom who, centuries later retain their cultural lack of sexual repression.

This is true also in South America and Africa in my opinion.

And when they had disco’s in the Middle East it lead to modern day Iran, our biggest military opponent.

And if you don’t think the people there really support their government after a popular uprising and years fighting for their way of life, I would disagree.

I don’t know one man not touched by this. That’s 150 million American’s alone.

And they call us a hate group……laugh out f@cking loud.

btw guys, it is intellectuals they attack first so count yourselves in good company history wise.

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Ryu March 10, 2012 at 07:49

I also do not agree with running off to some mythical paradise for men. International feminism is here to stay and it will infest the entire world.

The irony is that it is carried by men like Roosh who wish to escape feminism in the US. Everyone wants the easy pussy and they travel to get it. Think it out – Russia, E Europe, Columbia and Brazil are well on the way and gaining fast.

If you wish to combat it, stay here. This is the US of A , the belly of beast. It began here, it will end here. Not all men are leaders and we are not all equal. Some will run to the Phillipines to live the easy life while they can get it.

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Rocco March 10, 2012 at 08:02

@ Ryu

You only get one life. Life in these countries is good for men and men deserve to be happy. Only those who have traveled there can tell you and I’ve traveled to almost all of them.

There will be no change soon in US men being very attractive of any age in these countries.

If it makes you happy it’s in our constitution.

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Keoni Galt March 10, 2012 at 08:19

Hey Alcuin, has your blog been censored?

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universe March 10, 2012 at 08:31

To carry one thought from Rocco forward – “And they call us a hate group……”
– For providing factual data about females as discussion points or as for casual commenting?
Take what Will provided as a source for discussion concerning the TV documentary from 8 years ago. Do feminists and others chivalrists consider discussion points like females committing adultery within a marriage without the matrimonial husband knowing that he’s raising the DNA of another man to be hate speech?
Or that females commit near equal amounts (more) DV than do men is hate speech?
Or that, when accounted for factors such as seniority, actual time spent at work, similar job classifications – dangerous -, that females aren’t wage discrimated against to be hate speech?
Or the multitude of other sex comparisons, when properly accounted for through actual factual data and professional peer review, showing that females aren’t the downtrodden waifs feminists have spent so much time propagating such illusion and gathering immence individual fortunes from doing so. These would be examples of hate speech?
When examples of data from non-partisan sources regarding the more truer nature of the sexes become part of mainstream consciousness we’ll see who the real hate mongers are.
Collecting the names of feminist hate mongers now, while they’re trying to do the same to us, for future public accountability isn’t a total waste of time. These jerks shouldn’t just simply walk away from the animocity they’ve stirred among the unsuspecting majority public.

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doclove March 10, 2012 at 08:31

@ Troll King
I left South Korea gor the last time in late September 2006. South Korea is a developed country. Their buildings aren’t as built as well as the USA on average because their attitude is you can’t have the new until you rid yourself of the old when it comes to architecture. Nearly all of North-East Asian people including Japan thinks this way, and usually build buildings to last only 20 to 30 years so they can tear them down and put something better in its place. Remember Japan has been a Modern country since the early 20th century and is on the ring of fire which gives it earth quakes, volcano eruptions and tsunamis so Japan has to build better buildings than any place else in North-East Asia with the possible exception of Taiwan which is also on the Ring of Fire. South Korea and most other North East Asian nations are not on the Ring of Fire. Ecquador, Peru, Chile, New Zealand, the provinces of Yukon and British Columbia in Canada as well as the states of Alaska, Washington, Oregon and California of the USA are also on the Ring of Fire.

Japan and South Korea are crowded and mountainous like much of North-East Asia. Japan has 800 people per square mile. South Korea has 1,500 people per square mile. The USA has 80 people per square mile. Japan and South Korea are 70% mountains unlike the USA which although I don’t know how mountainous it is, I know for sure the USA is considerably less mountainous than Japan and South Korea. The cities’ main streets as well as especially the highway(both freeways and tollways) systems of Japan and South Korea are wide and similar to the USA. the side streets of Japan and South Korea almost never have sidewalks like the USA so people walk where cars drive slowly(10 MPHor less) if they are doing it legally which they virtually always do. their side streets aren’t as nice as the USA on average, but their highways and main city strrets are better on average. Trash pickup is more of a problem in Japan and especially South Korea. I should note that South Korea was nearly as clean as Japan in 2006 and had improved considerably since 1996 when I first arrived. Crowding is a problem in Japan and South Korea and Japan which Americans on average would find stressful, bit the Japanese and Koreans handle it well.

Both South Korea and Japan had considerably better public transportation in their buses and especially trains and metros. Their cell phones, computers and internet are better too. They are safer places from crime. South Korea is very similar in lifestyle to Japan these days. I would say it’s approximately the same.

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doclove March 10, 2012 at 08:46

@ Troll King
I forgot to add that the divorce rates for the USA, South Korea and Japan are 45%-50%, 40%-45% and 25%-30% the last time I looked if my memory holds correct.

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Uncle Elmer March 10, 2012 at 08:58

I like your predictive economic analysis TFH. I read your bubble theory sometime back, and the prediction of anti-male doubling down has come true.

In my daily quest for upvotes, I shamelessly repeat my post on the previous thread, now buried in the comments :

The SPLC Award may be the best thing to hit the The-Spearhead.

I’ll bet Price is crafting his acceptance speech right now.

This will propel The-Spearhead into high prominence over the next few weeks as “serious” writers from put their spin on it and “MRA Hate Sites” becomes the new concern meme. All the TV Model/Spokepeople will have special segments to educate the public on this threat : “That’s right Jen, it’s a shadowy, loose-knit coalition of internet hate groups masquerading as men’s civic booster clubs…operating right in our midst…targeting lonely and vulnerable women and girls…so we went undercover to find out how they operate…and were shocked to find out the size of this extensive network…dozens of cities across the U.S…and Canada and Europe too…possible white supremecist ties…some near elementary schools…as this hidden camera footage clearly shows…attempting to indoctrinate young men to avoid marriage..racist overtones…and shocking membership rituals code-named “Game”….all while operating under the guise of free speech…some are saying it’s only a matter of time before some mentally disturbed person…”

Perhaps it will get mention in the eagerly anticipated Obiden-Romtorum debates. Question “Do you think the government should shut down The MRA Hate Sites?”. Or maybe there will be congressional hearings.

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slwener March 10, 2012 at 09:16

@Alciun:
As a couple of other guys have already noted, your blog has become locked.

Here’s what I’m seeing:

“This blog is open to invited readers only

http://alcuin-constant.blogspot.com/
It doesn’t look like you have been invited to read this blog. If you think this is a mistake, you might want to contact the blog author and request an invitation.”

Unfortunately, it seems the only way we now have to contact you is to post off-topic notes to you on forums that you visit.

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Rebel March 10, 2012 at 09:18

Nobody really knows what the future will bring and it may as well be that way.

Personnally, I would consider living in the country, say Kansas, Arkansas or remote places like that. Buy a small house and live alone. Or build yourself one. I would have good, reliable friends and pretend to be gay when confronted with the “ladies”
Notice that homosexual males get lots of respect these days. This is not to speak against them, but to use “gayness” as a shield.

Two things to avoid at all costs: marriage and kids. And for sex, celibacy is not so difficult to manage, once you have practiced for a while. Virtual sex may also come to the rescue for those who cannot really handle celibacy.

Once you have found your little place of paradise, practice fishing, hunting and … some drinking with your true friends.

There are still many ways to have a happy life: all you have to do is to discard the old ways and GYOW. Do things for yourself alone (and for your good friends).

And you know what? women will have to carry the whole weight of society upon their shoulders: this will leave them with less energy to express their hatred of men. And by then, what they do or think or say won’t matter at all anymore.

Read and learn “The Art of War” and “The Prince” and practice all you have learned in your daily lives.

Get yourself a motorcycle and roam the land, breathing the fresh air of freedom. The world is yours, if you want it. YOU ARE FREE!!!

Guys, take full advantage of everything offered to you. Don’t worry or give a shit about things upon which you have no control.
Above all else, CARPE DIEM!

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Keoni Galt March 10, 2012 at 09:41

Oh, and TFH, as I said before, your Misandry Bubble was a watershed moment in helping the manosphere gain traction….but you were still a little bit off in your timeline prediction.

I said it then, and I’ll say it again, the Bubble is gonna pop long before 2020. It may already be popping right now…which is why groups like the $PLC are starting to go after the manosphere.

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Rocco March 10, 2012 at 09:43

Feminists riot because Strauss talks at Cambridge about economics.

Defacing property, rioting, 2 arrests. During economic crisis they try to silence their victims, prominent men who can help millions….how….”Inquisitorial”.

Feminism, this is what a violent hate group looks like.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2112655/Disgraced-Dominique-Strauss-Kahn-gives-Cambridge-Union-address-flanked-6-bodyguards.html

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Nico March 10, 2012 at 09:56

OT: Four employees of the bank Société Générale are sueing the company for the “psychological trauma” they suffered on the battlefield: clients taunting them because of the Kerviel scandal (remember the rogue trader who lost 5 billion euros).

Now these employees are asking 15000 euros each to help them heal their trauma.

Guess the sex of these loyal but fragile employees?

“Psychological trauma” is nothing less than a gold mine for some females.

http://www.lefigaro.fr/societes/2012/03/10/20005-20120310ARTFIG00411-socgen-des-salaries-se-jugent-leses-par-l-affaire-kerviel.php

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Rebel March 10, 2012 at 10:07

@Rocco
“Feminists riot because Strauss talks at Cambridge about economics.
Feminism, this is what a violent hate group looks like.”

You know, Rocco, some ten years ago, I had predicted that eventually, a full fledged war would break out between men and women.

It seemed far fetched then and probably still does right now, but I maintain my prediction.

There are seven billion humans on earth, each of them with a desire to live the Western style of life. We need three and a half more planets to achieve that. The alternative is population reduction.

A wedge, properly placed between men and women, will do the job only partly.

I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but I can recognize huge problems where they exist and we do have a huge problem…

That is ONE reason why I encourage young men to move to the countryside if they can: places like Kansas, Arkansas, Manitoba, etc… will continue to be safe for a while.
I also claim that the future is primitive: eventually, living like the American Indians might be the way to survive.

Myself, I am too old for anything like that, but if I was young I would consider very seriously.

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Steve_85 March 10, 2012 at 10:20

Ironic isn’t it? Instead of machines taking over, we’ve empowered women to the point that they are a credible threat to our civilization. Their fight against ‘Patriarchy’ may actually bring it about.

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keyster March 10, 2012 at 10:21

They’ve been celebrating the heroic rise of the youngest woman to join the Billionaire’s List here in the US.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2012/03/07/undercover-billionaire-sara-blakely-joins-the-rich-list-thanks-to-spanx/

She’s a sassy entrepreneur who “invented” the latest in slimming female undergarments called “Spanx”; which are essentially pantyhose with the legs cut off, otherwise known as glorified girdles.

That’s right, women everywhere can now feel thinner, without having to eat less food. It’s a miracle innovation that will benefit humanity for all time, by making women feel sexy. So long muffin tops!

Stay tuned for “A new study finds Spanx effecting circulation in women’s legs, leading to varicose veins and foot infections.”, in about a year or so.

You Go Grrl!

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Rocco March 10, 2012 at 10:37

@ Keyster

You said “muffin top” and that triggered an emotional dysmorphic syndrome response in me….you…you…misogynist….now I need to go eat some ice cream to feel better.

Do they have Spanx for men? Is this a MR issue? (lol).

I think the Spanx may shift vascular distrobution from the buttock to the brain improving mood….this may explain why you can make a billion dollars selling a well named girdle.

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Rebel March 10, 2012 at 10:56

“You Go Grrl!”

I would tend to say, in this case: you go girdle!

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Anonymous age 69 March 10, 2012 at 10:56

Same old tired nonsense about feminism taking over everywhere. It is never a good idea to write about things when you know nothing about them.

Feminism in a country is more than a bunch of laws and mouthy man-haters. For feminism to have any control, women need to mechanism by which they do not need a husband. This in most cases involves a government check for being a slut.

Poor countries simply do not have money to give to women so they can be sluts. So, women need a man if they want to have kids, period.

I live in Mexico. Mexico has some laws that look feminist on the surface. Women who utilize those laws to the detriment of men quickly find themselves with their babies begging on the street. Mexico simply has no money to pay women for not working. So, the laws have no effect.

I must admit feminists themselves are stupid. They come into Mexico and lobby for feminist laws that do no useful purpose because there is no money to support bad women. Yet you men get all panicky.

In the US, when, not if, the welfare ticket goes broke feminism will quickly disappear as women beg men to care for them.

A woman I know here was beaten badly enough by her husband two weeks ago she needed an MRI. The police were not even called. That is normal here.

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Rebel March 10, 2012 at 10:57

“Do they have Spanx for men? Is this a MR issue? (lol).”

No, they have spanks for boys, though..

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Ethical March 10, 2012 at 11:34

I followed your link to the full article. I read widely on men’s rights but I was fascinated with how much more there was there that I hadn’t come across before. Thanks for the link.

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keyster March 10, 2012 at 11:48

“Do they have Spanx for men? Is this a MR issue? (lol).”

Would it be misogynist if I were to point out that women have a tendency to bloat during menstruation, and this device allows them to wear tight fitting dresses during that period?

Yes, it would; even though its true.
The “Thought Police” now know who you are.
You’re a card carrying member of a dangerous misogynist HATE Group.

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Troll King March 10, 2012 at 11:58

Rebel said:

“And you know what? women will have to carry the whole weight of society upon their shoulders: this will leave them with less energy to express their hatred of men. And by then, what they do or think or say won’t matter at all anymore”

It is funny you mentioned that. The other day I had left the TV on CNN and walked into the room just in time. I didn’t even know it was International Women’s Day.

The woman anchor had asked a question, “what is the most important issue facing women?” just minutes before. She was now reading a few tweets sent in by some women answering the question.

The first one said something like this:

“Today women have to be the breadwinner, the nanny, the cook, the maid, the secretary for the family and it is just too much….where are the men and why aren’t they picking up the slack?”

I burst out laughing. Bitches, you lobbied for it, you claimed you need a man like a fish needs a bicycle, and now that you got what you want you still ain’t happy? You made you bed, now sleep in it. Lol.

There were one or two other tweets sent in by women that complained about the same sort of thing.

@ doclove

Isn’t one reason that Japan has such a low divorce rate due to them having a incredibly low marriage rate. If you haven’t read about it, google grasseaters or the herbivore men? Somewhere around 50% of young Japanese men are basically GTOW.

As far as Korea goes, I simply mentioned them because from what I understand they have gone through a incredible social transformation in just the last few decades that was fueled by women entering the workforce, I believe they are having many of the same problems as the west as far as men finding partners and female hypergamy and so on, and the tech boom.

I haven’t been there so I don’t have eyes on the ground, but from what I have read about Korea has gone from a traditionalistic culture to one that is similiar to how America was during the 80s and 90s.

I will look for some of the articles I saw on it and post them later.

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Rocco March 10, 2012 at 12:20

@ Anon 69

I’m not so sure about that.

Yesterday, for womens day,the female President of Brazil announced a new laws that women always get the house upon disolution of “relationship” or even if they live in public housing it goes to their kids.

A gift to women.

Mabybe feminism will come hard and fast in places without checks and balances.

http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma/mens-rights-feminism/in-divorce-women-will-inherit-government-subsidized-real-estate-property-decrees-brazilian-president-dilma-rousseff-a-woman

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Rocco March 10, 2012 at 12:24

OT

I think this quote summarizes the argument of that Law Center against MRA’s, interestingly it’s from Al Jazeerha…..maybe feminism is making it’s inroads there as well.

This acknowledges that Rush Limbaugh is like Stephan Colbert, a fake journalist but still……..he should be banned, he’s a hate monger…because he advocates for the wrong group.

“The kind of humour Limbaugh uses troubles me deeply, because I have spent much of my professional life making fun of politicians. I believe it is a great American tradition and should be encouraged. We should all laugh more at our elected officials – it’s good for us and good for them. So what right do I have to object because Limbaugh makes fun of different pols than I do?

“I object because he consistently targets dead people, little girls, and the homeless – none of whom are in a particularly good position to answer back. Satire is a weapon, and it can be quite cruel. It has historically been the weapon of powerless people aimed at the powerful. When you use satire against powerless people, as Limbaugh does, it is not only cruel, it’s profoundly vulgar. It is like kicking a cripple.””

My ex didn’t seem like a cripple ever….not ever during or after the divorce, but I see a lot of crippled men.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/03/2012310112911500270.html

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Steve_85 March 10, 2012 at 12:29

Trollking quoted some woman:
“Today women have to be the breadwinner, the nanny, the cook, the maid, the secretary for the family and it is just too much….where are the men and why aren’t they picking up the slack?”

Where are we? We’re sitting in our 2 bedroom apartments playing video games, or riding our motorbikes, or driving our nice cars. Things that we can afford now because we aren’t paying for you to have a million pairs of shoes that you only wore once. We realise what you’ve done to the social contract, we realise that you’ve made the marriage contract fraudulent (till death do we part… you aint dead bitch!) and we’ve decided we want nothing to do with you.

Why aren’t we picking up the slack? Because there is no longer any incentive to do it. Can’t even get a thank you anymore.

Women have used up all the social currency they had. They’ve got nothing I want. Pick up your own slack, I won’t be doing it for you.

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Steve_85 March 10, 2012 at 12:34

@Rocco:
“Yesterday, for womens day…”

Women’s *DAY*? It’s women’s MONTH over here (AUS). They’ve got shit planned for the entire month. They even had Glorria Steinham writing articles in our local rag about all the ‘empowering’ things they have planned.

International Women’s Month: March 8th, every year since 1908. It’s an entire month dedicated to women’s narcissism.

Meanwhile, International Men’s Day is on November 19th. Hardly anyone knows about it, it lasts for only a single day and no one does anything for it.

And why the fuck is the word “Men’s” a typo? Are men not allowed to own anything anymore?

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Troll King March 10, 2012 at 13:36

OT.

And science confirms what I have been saying all along about the female herd tendencies of women or team woman.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15491274/

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Somehow Somewhat March 10, 2012 at 13:59

The Misandry Bubble resonates well with Pat Buchanan’s suicide of a superpower: will america survive to 2025? A review is done here: http://www.vdare.com/articles/the-suicide-of-liberty . Of course he lost his job after publication of the book (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/73014.html).

Probably the next election or presidential term will define the future of USA. Will the new president put the survival of the US first and foremost? Will the second-term Obama, seeking no re-election, put aside PC agenda or rev it up?

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Avenger March 10, 2012 at 14:51

Remember, the Four Horsemen of Male Emancipation :

Game
VR Sex Technology of 2020
Globalization
Male Economic Disengagement

Total bullshit and the delusion of an omega. Nothing is going to happen by 2020 anymore than the world is going to end on the 21st December of this year because the Aztec calendar ends.

Game-this is just some Gen Y term made up by guys to sell books to inept nerds. It is not a science or anywhere near being a science. Understanding human psychology, especially the female, is something you needed to learn from when you were a kid simply by interacting with people. You’re not going to be able to learn much after spending the first 20 formative years playing kid computer games or collecting comic books with your nerd buddies in the basement. There are also men (and females) who simply have nothing that the opposite sex finds attractive and no amount of “game” will overcome this.

VR Sex Technology of 2020-this is the fantasy of every omega loser who can’t get a female to have sex with him. You keep waiting for those “sexbots” but I can assure you that if they are ever perfected it will be the rich alpha man who gets one first and can pay the $100m for one while you’ll still be using the same blowup doll lol

Globalization-nothing new here. There has always been trade between countries and in the future perhaps borders between countries will not be as well defined as today but people will still be dividing themselves into classes because it is human nature to do so. English has been the unofficial world language for some time and almost eveyone above a certain level speaks it worldwide. I have more in common with someone of my class in Moscow or Tokyo than with the proles living in a village a few miles away who I find incomprehensible and foreign. The proles (90%worldwide)will never really change or revolt as long as we keep them supplied with cheap wide screen idiot boxes and cheap fast food and since there is a glut of food in the world this will not be a problem (birth control and abortion will keep the population in check) None of this is due to any sort of oppression but merely the nature order and a hierarchy in humans. The average prole is lazy and has no aspirations above watching junk TV (or whatever), eating and fucking. Civilisations were built by the elite not the slaves and semi slaves.

Male Economic Disengagement-well that should be easy for you since you are financially disengaged now. People with no economic power are just ignored and become non persons. Eventually you will just die off.

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Avenger March 10, 2012 at 15:13

Thanks TFH. I got those points, I was just wondering if you had some sort of algorithm or series of calculations or if it was just back of the book extrapolation.

He pulled itout of his arse while playing War of the Warriors on his xbox and after smoking some cannabis (the drug of choice for losers and morons who never do anything)

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TFH March 10, 2012 at 15:29

Yawn…… regarding Avenger, remember one of my other maxims (also described in The Misandry Bubble) :

Anyone who makes waaaaaay off-base accusations is merely engaging in projection. Avenger is projecting here.

In fact, his own post has so many self-contradictions that his own bitter omegatude leaks out.

1) Game : As I say, 80% of men just cannot grasp Game, and Avenger now fits squarely into the fanatical anti-Game cult.

I am quite adept at Game, as anyone here who has read my detailed comments on it is aware.

There are also men (and females) who simply have nothing that the opposite sex finds attractive and no amount of “game” will overcome this.

That certainly appears to be your life story. But don’t project your lost-cause failure onto others.

well that should be easy for you since you are financially disengaged now.

LOL! I am actually quite wealthy. Self-made, in fact.

Now go on – go apeshit with another wave of projection. Heh heh heh heh

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TFH March 10, 2012 at 15:40

William the Just,

Been writing “The Misandry Bubble” on post-it notes and sticking them above the urinals at my university for the last couple of months.

Excellent! Thanks! A University is exactly the right place to do it.

Did you do that as an independent idea, or from the URLs @ Urinals campaign? There are a lot of resources on various types of flyers to be put up.

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TFH March 10, 2012 at 15:45

Trollking,

I was just wondering if you had some sort of algorithm or series of calculations or if it was just back of the book extrapolation.

Not in that much detail. But the fiscal piece is the largest part, and that is pretty straightforward to analyze on a timeline. Without a huge state, feminism just cannot exist.

It is true that democracy and prosperity lead to feminism, but only when it happens soon enough for most men to be of the whiteknight generation. As soon as even 10-20% are red-pill men, it becomes much harder.

Also, remember that Anglo feminism is more virulent than other types of feminism, including Swedish feminism (WF Price wrote an article about that a couple months back). For example, while Japan also disenfranchises men, out-of-wedlock births are just 10%, unlike 41% in the US. There is not a major cultural push to prop up single motherhood there.

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Avenger March 10, 2012 at 16:10

Anyone who makes waaaaaay off-base accusations is merely engaging in projection. Avenger is projecting here.

In fact, his own post has so many self-contradictions that his own bitter omegatude leaks out.

You’re confused,. Turn off the kid games and put the joint down. And get down on your knees every day and thank god for the boomers who dropped the technology that gives your life meaning in your lap because you Gen Y’s would have never invented it in a million years. We’ve made it so simply that even a 2 yo can turn on a computer just like the TV. Like all Gen Y’s you have an inflated and deluded idea about your own competence. You remind me of a female who switches on a light and doesn’t understand all the steps it took to get to that point.

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Avenger March 10, 2012 at 16:15

I am quite adept at Game, as anyone here who has read my detailed comments on it is aware.

You’re full of shit and you’re a big nerdy blowhard. You want to test that “game” of yours? And I don’t mean with the girls that hang out at the local bowling alley in Podunk but some real place. Let’s say, Manhattan. Air fares are cheap, I’ll pay for your ticket and 2 nights in a hotel and set you loose and see what you come up with.

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Avenger March 10, 2012 at 21:15

“I in fact am seeking to make Boomer men aware that Boomer women are aiming to cut them off from SS and Medicare”

Do you think I give a rat’s arse about that $1k a month in SS which wouldn’t even pay my real estate taxes? lol Besides, I’m exempt from paying into it because I don’t have what is viewed as an “income”. Money from tax exempt bonds and capital gains (taxed at a fraction of what you pay) doesn’t count. I don’t care what happens to anyone or the country after I’m dead and they can eat dirt and live in grass huts lol

And I knew you were full of shit “Mr Pickup artist” there’s a saying, “beggars can’t be choosers” and since I’m paying I’ll determine the rules. I’ll choose the locatiions and they will be very neutral places like the bars at PJ Clarkes, the Plaza or 21 etc cocktail lounges, the Park, Library, or some dept. stores. I don’t want you to go to the meatpacking district on St Patrick’s day and screwing some drunk girl at a club and counting it as a “win”
So leave the floppy hat at home and wear some decent shoes (not the square toed ones worn by nerds in Podunk lol) I won’t even debate whether a female is a 7 or whatever because the places I’ll be sending you to don’t have fugly girls around so I’ll accept any female.
And btw, if you were a gentleman you would accept the challange and refuse all compensation.

You think getting a number means something? Females give me their numbers all of the time and I throw 99% of them in the garbage. You certainly have a weird standard of what a real pua is but I guess that a guy who spends his time putting up posters in toilets isn’t too sophisticated.

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bcdad March 10, 2012 at 21:46

Avenger and TFH;
What is the purpose of your debate? To brag about who’s better at getting pussy? What good is that?
You both appear to agree on the one thing that stops all men from progressing beyond the Manipulated Man stage; that the purpose of man is to pursue pussy. A pox on both your houses.
Contemplate the great men of history – cunt was not high on their agendas.

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doclove March 10, 2012 at 22:11

@ Troll King
Thanks for the response. I never meant to denigrate you. I was pointing out that South Korea is for all intents and purposes a developed country. You are essentially correct that much of the traditional culture and way of doing thins is gone. I remember before I became a Soldier because I was an English teacher over there first. a woman’s group took a case to court around the year 2000 and had veterans preferances in hiring taken away because it was unfair to women. Women could not become enlisted, but they could be officers at the time. All men are subject to the draft in South Korea and most must serve 2 to 3 years being in the Army, Marines, Navy, Air Force, Police Auxilaries(Riot Police) which is where nearly every draftee goes. Some get to work in an office or some other form of national service, but this is rare. I can not tell you how disruptive it is to young men’s lives. They need to leave university and a 2 year conscription can easily mean 3 years away from school or his civilian job or a 3 year conscription can easily mean 4 years away from his school or civilian job because of the paperwork and other hassles. Women are not subject to the national service or military draft in South Korea. You are essentially correct that in its own wierd way which is certainly different from the American way feminism rears its ugly head in South Korea too.

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evilwhitemalempire March 11, 2012 at 00:18

the real irony of all this is that there is actually so much the left does to help burst the misandry bubble

pro-porn undermines the pussy cartel. they are laughingly oblivious to just how much female power is dependent on this

and multiculturalism just means a non white ‘patriarchy’ (islam)taking over. and they think WE are misogynists
‘wehh ahh yooo gooo-ing dressed li-eeek thot!’
‘i’m going out with the girls’
‘theeee ooonly tie-eeem a wooo-mon shooood be ne-ked eeeees when sheeeee es beeee-eeeng beeee-tun!’

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Troll King March 11, 2012 at 00:49

Doclove said:

“Thanks for the response. I never meant to denigrate you.”

I don’t feel denigrated at all. I doubt there is anything you could say about me that would make me feel more honorable than what I feel replying to a soldier. I come from the south. I am a son of the revolution. My family is born and breed from soldiers. I was going to enlist after 9/11 but I didn’t. Me and my younger brother are the first in my families history to break the army cycle.

You wrote comment after comment about your experiences in the military recently. I salute you. I have seen so many horrible things happen to men, let’s be clear, they were boys, due to women and the government that serves women in my life. I went to HS with dozens of guys who later went into the military. Two of them now have their names carved in stone on a memorial infront of the courthouse in my home town, right below the dozens of names carved from life and into stone from Vietnam and so many more, including my grandfather and his brothers, from WW2 and so on.

Anyways, you honor me with your reply. I may be the first in my family to not serve in a war but I ain’t weak. You won’t hurt me with words or a comment. I ain’t a bitch. Or a feminist. I am immune to comment abuse or verbal abuse or emotional abuse/assault….fuckin women think that a few bad words equals a fist or a knife or a bullet…I have never been a soldier but in my small town with too many meth labs I can tell you that I have basically been at the mercy of all three.

” I was pointing out that South Korea is for all intents and purposes a developed country. You are essentially correct that much of the traditional culture and way of doing thins is gone. I remember before I became a Soldier because I was an English teacher over there first. a woman’s group took a case to court around the year 2000 and had veterans preferances in hiring taken away because it was unfair to women. Women could not become enlisted, but they could be officers at the time. All men are subject to the draft in South Korea and most must serve 2 to 3 years being in the Army, Marines, Navy, Air Force, Police Auxilaries(Riot Police) which is where nearly every draftee goes. Some get to work in an office or some other form of national service, but this is rare. I can not tell you how disruptive it is to young men’s lives. They need to leave university and a 2 year conscription can easily mean 3 years away from school or his civilian job or a 3 year conscription can easily mean 4 years away from his school or civilian job because of the paperwork and other hassles. Women are not subject to the national service or military draft in South Korea. You are essentially correct that in its own wierd way which is certainly different from the American way feminism rears its ugly head in South Korea too.”

This is exactly why I brought it up. I lived in Egypt in middle and highschool. The entire culture and societal roles changed whithin just two years of 9/11. A easy example would be how before 9/11 about 10%-20% of women actually wore the hajib. Egypt actually had a strong women’s rights movement back in the 1920s, but that may have had more to do with the british than social/civilizational decline.

After 9/11 about 80% of women started wearing the hijab. This happened within less than two years. Now, most didn’t look at it as a cultural or even religious statement but many did look at it as a political statement. Women are herd like creatures, they follow the in-group, or team woman, more than they think about logic or consequences.

That is just one example.

I simply wonder how quickly a country could become feminized beyond the American standard due to techonological advancements?

I truly do hope TFH is right, I just think we need to have a open dialog about the worst case possibilities. Just look at the Arab Spring.

If that can happen that fast then what happens when a group of our enemies get together to make sure that atleast one of our horses of the misandry bubble doesn’t come true. There are many ways this could potentially happen. Just look at regulations, that could kill expatriation. or VR sex. Or Male Birth Control.

Anyways, South Korea is supposedly a nice place to visit but I am not convinced, due to what I have hear and researched, that it is truly a place where men would do well to expat to.

Anyways, Doclove, thanks for the info and kind words. I would love to see you write up a post or two for this site about your experiences. That would be awesome. Take care.

Troll King

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E March 11, 2012 at 00:50

Rocco

You only get one life. Life in these countries is good for men and men deserve to be happy. Only those who have traveled there can tell you and I’ve traveled to almost all of them.

Someone on this website once said, “It would be cheaper to hire a cook, maid, and prostitute rather then get married and lose 50% of your money accumulated during the most productive years of your life.”

If that is true in the USA then it must be even more so in a 3rd world nation where the cost of hired help is only a fraction. For this reason, I would NEVER go to a country like Vietnam to find a wife when instead I can hire a cook, maid, and yes of course a prostitute who will
Love me long time

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Höllenhund March 11, 2012 at 00:50

@Will 06:50

Sounds interesting. Do you have further information on that documentary?

@Anonymous age 69 10:56

I agree that institutionalized feminism needs a certain economic foundation to endure but I think it’s a different one. What consitute that foundation are these: cheap and reliable contraception; accessible and affordable abortion; the devaluation of male labor (mainly physical labor) through automatization, growing productivity, the proliferation of office jobs and a general economic shift from the industrial and agricultural sectors to the service sector. The growth of the police state and the disappearance of conventional great-power war (due to the existence of nuclear arsenals) also play a role in the rise of feminism, although not a strictly economic one, as they result in the devaluation of men as protectors and warriors.

All these phenomena are present in Eastern Europe, Russia, Mexico, South America and the developing countries to various degrees. These may not be welfare states, and obviously not all of them give welfare checks to single mothers, but the economic factors enabling the rise of feminism are still present. The National Geographic recently ran a lengthy article about the unprecedented collapse of the Brazilian fertily rate. Brazil has no history of institutionalized feminism, but the collapse still happened because reliable and affordable contraceptives are available on the black market, women are more and more empowered economically (relatively speaking) and the media portrays smaller families as ideal. Most Brazilian women now openly reject traditional family norms.

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TFH March 11, 2012 at 00:55

bcdad,

What is the purpose of your debate?

Ask Avenger. He started it, as you can see.

I wouldn’t have bothered to respond to such a logically porous and inane attack from someone with no repute, but his bravado in offering to ‘pay to fly me to NYC to assess my Game’ was rather funny.

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TFH March 11, 2012 at 01:06

Avenger,

Do you think I give a rat’s arse about that $1k a month in SS which wouldn’t even pay my real estate taxes?

Then why would you be apeshit about how I posted some graphs showing that Boomers would not collect SS? Your story is falling apart quickly.
_____________________________

I see you are backing away from your false bravado in claiming to ‘pay for me to fly to NYC and 2 nights hotel’, because you cannot arrange a neutral observer.

Arrange a neutral observer that I am satisfied with would keep my identity secret, then we’ll see. I am not disclosing my identity to you who would immediately report me to the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Plus, I see you dodged (with great cowardice) my question about whether you were a) more interested in discrediting Game itself (in which case, you should challenge the top PUAs, rather than me), or b) whether you just are obsessed with my Game (in which case, everyone here is wondering ‘why’?).

The fact that you think 2 days is enough to evaluate consistent success in bedding women, shows how little real-world experience you have.

but I guess that a guy who spends his time putting up posters in toilets isn’t too sophisticated.

As opposed to the sophisticated and visible activism you are doing? LOL! By presenting no alternatives, you demonstrate yet another key indicator of extreme loserdom.

You truly have no idea how pathetic you come across.

Heh heh heh heh

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Will March 11, 2012 at 04:24

“Höllenhund March 11, 2012 at 00:50
Sounds interesting. Do you have further information on that documentary?”

Sorry, I don’t – I just grabbed the comment from the daily mail article.

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Charles Martel March 11, 2012 at 06:24

@TFH

Don’t argue with grandpa. He has no legitimate purpose her. He causes trouble because he’s an isolated, lonely old man.

Avenger
I don’t care what happens to anyone or the country after I’m dead and they can eat dirt and live in grass huts lol

I’ve profiled Avenger before. He’s 65-ish and lives alone. We can now add to that profile that he lives in Manhattan – probably Tribeca – and has no children. Somewhere along his journey from Scotland to Manhattan, he sold his soul to the devil and can not get it back. His only relief is to viciously demean strangers on the internet. Pathetic.

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TFH March 11, 2012 at 12:15

Charles Martel,

I’ve profiled Avenger before. He’s 65-ish and lives alone………….His only relief is to viciously demean strangers on the internet. Pathetic.

Heh. Thanks. When one is 65, I would think one wants to use their remaining time doing something worthwhile….

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anonymous March 11, 2012 at 19:07

talking about doubling down. Take a look at this one:

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/dayton-news/bill-introduced-to-regulate-mens-reproductive-health-1341547.html

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Bufface March 11, 2012 at 21:36

Looks like Avenger is pissed and got his fellow basement dwellers to spam down votes

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evilwhitemalempire March 12, 2012 at 00:20

talking about doubling down. Take a look at this one:

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/dayton-news/bill-introduced-to-regulate-mens-reproductive-health-1341547.html
*******************************

this little gem i like the most

“Fewer unwanted pregnancies result in fewer children living in poverty and a lower prison population and this is job killing in a time when social workers, police officers, and prison guards need the employment to feed their families. . . ”

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2012/03/women_across_the_country_are_s.html

that’s like a cigarette company openly bragging that it’s business is good business for undertakers!

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evilwhitemalempire March 12, 2012 at 00:36

it’s also absolute proof that females on both sides of the fence (not just the right) are acutely aware that their power depends upon enforcing the pussy cartel

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JFinn March 12, 2012 at 03:08

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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JFinn March 12, 2012 at 03:23

Hey, Avenger – I just ate a BLT sandwich. Is that Alpha, beta, or omega? How about my deodorant – I use Old Spice Pure Sport. Too beta?

Dumbass.

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Charles Martel March 12, 2012 at 07:10

JFinn
Hey, Avenger – I just ate a BLT sandwich. Is that Alpha, beta, or omega? How about my deodorant – I use Old Spice Pure Sport. Too beta?

Avenger has a new hobby. He’s running around Manhattan with his laptop from one wi-fi hotspot to another, voting at each one. Or he’s figured out some other way to cheat the voting system. The voting system is easy to cheat, actually.

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anonymous March 12, 2012 at 07:34

Here is another interesting article:

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Japan/NC13Dh01.html

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Boxer March 12, 2012 at 08:29

Dear Avenger:

You really live in little Charles’ head these days. I’m jealous. How are the accommodations?

Charles Martel kook-farted:
Avenger has a new hobby. He’s running around Manhattan with his laptop from one wi-fi hotspot to another, voting at each one. Or he’s figured out some other way to cheat the voting system. The voting system is easy to cheat, actually.

Yeah, you would know. Your ass-buddies Butt-boy Keyster and Firepoodles were boasting about hacking it. Not that it makes any difference, except to no life losers who use the comment section of this blog as a substitute life. That’d be you, of course.

Avenger:”When you’re done toying with little Chuck, send him back my way. I miss my bitches when they’re gone too long.

Regards, Boxer

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Charles Martel March 12, 2012 at 10:32

@Boxer.

LOL. I’m not the one that spent the entire day in their Tribeca apartment cycling their cable modem because their wittle feewings were hurt when whining to Bill didn’t work.

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Charles Martel March 12, 2012 at 10:38

@Boxer

I’ll save you the trouble of clicking on the link to Avenger’s comment.

Avenger
Welmer, you know you should really get rid of the silly thumbs up/down thing because there are too many little boys on here who think this is some sort of Jr. High popularity contest.

Poor grandpa Avenger’s wittle feewings are hurt. The young men don’t understand his important comments.

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Observer March 12, 2012 at 12:42

It’s too bad the flame war started up because I agree with Price that this is still a great take on the way things are progressing. I’m not the biggest fan of the alpha/beta/omega terminology (oversimplification), or that “sexbots” will ever be a significant distraction for men, but the double down effect is definitely happening right now. Kudos to TFH.

As for Avenger, some of that was pretty funny. The nerd rant was great but misplaced for what the article was aiming for. Everyone goes back to “game” to assert their credentials as a men’s movement intellectual, which will ensure that no one will ever take it seriously. Guys, I’m sure if you’ve never had women throw themselves at you then game must seem like a revelation, but it really ain’t. You want to the live the dream of a young single man, but not of what real adults want: a stable homelife and a strong family.

What you ought to be spending your time meditating on is what makes a good woman and let me tell you, it does take a village. The key is making sure that the fathers remain in their daughter’s lives without fear of legal reprisals from feminist mothers.

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Avenger March 12, 2012 at 14:49

God! I go away for 2 days and some ‘tween, 20 something, GenY nerd cat fight breaks out!

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Avenger March 12, 2012 at 14:56

I actually did tell Welmer to eliminate ratings because they are meaningless. Take a look at the childish crap posted at TFH March 10, 2012 at 00:53. 86 ups? It’s garbage and besides there aren’t even 86 people reading this blog lol Some dweeb with no life voting himself up no doubt.

I would like to thank all of my supporters because I can see that you’ve given me the thumb’s up so apparently there are some intelligent people here.

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Avenger March 12, 2012 at 16:21

Hey, Avenger – I just ate a BLT sandwich. Is that Alpha, beta, or omega? How about my deodorant – I use Old Spice Pure Sport. Too beta?

You mean a cockwich sandwich don’t you?

You use Old Spice? All that means is that you’re a poor prole, nothing more.

I use Creed myself.

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TFH March 12, 2012 at 17:10

Avenger squeaked :

Take a look at the childish crap posted at TFH March 10, 2012 at 00:53. 86 ups?

That comment at the top of the thread is childish? Are you insane?

You are becoming the poster-child for my maxim of :

Anyone who makes waaaaaay off-base accusations is merely engaging in projection.

Pathetic. I think Charles Martel is right : you spent two days going to hotspots to appear as though people are agreeing with you.

And you backed away from your cowardly claim that you would spend $1200 on my travel to ‘test my Game’. Pathetic x 2.

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Avenger March 12, 2012 at 17:19

You and Martell are the same person. I installed an IP logger on the server.

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TFH March 12, 2012 at 17:28

You and Martell are the same person. I installed an IP logger on the server.

Pathetic x 3. We are not the same person.

Epic fail.

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W.F. Price March 12, 2012 at 17:59

You and Martell are the same person. I installed an IP logger on the server.

-Avenger

Now hold on just a minute here. That isn’t a very amusing joke from my POV.

Avenger March 12, 2012 at 18:04

I gave this “pick up artist” the easiest possible assignment and he curred out. I even chose Manhattan because there are more females than men there and 50% of the people are foreign born knowing how afraid he is of American women.
I offered to send him there and put him up FREE but in true peasant fashion he’s starts calculating the cost. It’s free stupid, don’t look a gift horse in the mouth or start believing that you can make the rules. And as I said before, if he were a gentleman he would either turn it down or do it for his honour and reject all compensation.
Then he wants to have observers. No need for this because I have excellent surveillance equipment. All you’d have to do is put a pen in your suit breast pocket and it would record a few hours of video and sound without being observable. We could play it on here so that all could see the quality of the women and your great pickup lines and technique lol
And I’m afraid that you can’t be anonymous because in this stupid Gen Y age you’re going to have to show ID and it must match the name on the ticket. But why would a super star pua want to be anonymous? Think of all the money you can make writing your pua book and selling it to the nerds. And you really must have delusions of grandeur if you think that the SPLC is interested in a nonentity like you lol
I’ve even gone so far as to reccomend places that have the best looking females and told you how to dress (no square toed nerd shoes, no turned around baseball caps , hoodies or thigh length baggy shortrs etc) I’ll even have one of my gf’s give you some dancing lessons for an hour so you don’t look like a complete yokel. God! I feel like his dating coach here or like Professor Higgins.
And two days is absurd. If you can’t bed a female within 2 hours and I mean a 9 or 10 (we’ll review the videos here) you’re no pick up artist. You’re a dweeb bullshit artist.

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Avenger March 12, 2012 at 18:16

Now hold on just a minute here. That isn’t a very amusing joke from my POV

A joke? If he was smart he’d have one of the very large ISP’s and one where they set up the network where if it’s checked it will just show an IP of one of their nodes and not your real location and since proxies can usually be detected it will also show “no proxy” if you check it but yet high anonymity. And btw, I don’t have access to the ISP logs and even if I did it would be a job tracing it to a street address.

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TFH March 12, 2012 at 18:22

I offered to send him there and put him up FREE but in true peasant fashion he’s starts calculating the cost.

And I’ll accept it, as I said, if you can arrange for a neutral observer who keeps my identity secret. I don’t want a dumbshit like you reporting me to the Southern Poverty Law Center.

But you backed out, because your ’0ffer’ was bogus, and everyone knows it.

Why don’t you donate the same amount ($1200) to The Spearhead? That is a better use of it than me simply costing you that money by proving to you that Game exists.

Oh…. and I am not a pickup artist. I am just a user of Game for many years. Big difference. If you want to discredit Game, you need to challenge a master like Roosh or Krauser, not an intermediate-level hobbyist like me.

If you can’t bed a female within 2 hours and I mean a 9 or 10 (we’ll review the videos here) you’re no pick up artist.

Even the masters don’t manage that consistently, and none claim that they do, as the process takes 5-7 hours, particularly for women you meet during the day. If you had direct experience, you would know this.

Pathetic x 4. You are just talking to yourself, you sad old fool……

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Avenger March 12, 2012 at 18:23

And btw, there is an intermittant redirect as someone mentioned but it really doesn’t look like anything to me and is just another search engine. I have no idea why it happens. It goes to
http://63.209.69.107/

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Avenger March 12, 2012 at 18:26

And I’ll accept it, as I said, if you can arrange for a neutral observer who keeps my identity secret. I don’t want a dumbshit like you reporting me to the Southern Poverty Law Center.

I laid out the conditions and if you don’t understand them or the reason then get lost and shutup.

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TFH March 12, 2012 at 18:30

‘Avenger’ rhymes with ‘Denture’……

So I guess we will be calling you ‘Dentures’ from now on…

Heh heh heh heh

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Charles Martel March 12, 2012 at 20:09

Avenger
And btw, there is an intermittant redirect as someone mentioned but it really doesn’t look like anything to me and is just another search engine. I have no idea why it happens. It goes to http://63..209..69..107/

Now that’s funny. The redirect has nothing to do with Bill’s server, it’s the Scour virus on YOUR computer. You don’t know that but you put an IP logger on Bill’s server. Right.

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Charles Martel March 12, 2012 at 20:12

TFH
So I guess we will be calling you ‘Dentures’ from now on…

Naah. He’s the Crypt Keeper . Cryptie for short.

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migu March 13, 2012 at 01:28

http://support.kaspersky.com/viruses/solutions?qid=208280684

That should fix your problem cap’n.

It should work for everyone else who picked up the worm too.

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Firepower March 14, 2012 at 10:40

For those readers who haven’t yet had the chance to read “The Misandry Bubble,” a piece written by The Fifth Horseman a couple years ago

Only a few years? Look at the progress. In just those few short years, 5495 more groundbreaking, original blogs have sprouted – at that rate, True Change awaits in the 22nd Century.

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Firepower March 14, 2012 at 18:08

Wha-?

You activists aren’t pleased with all them results you’ve gotten from blogging?

Guess there’s no pleasing
a hardy mra…

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TFH March 14, 2012 at 19:02

I’ll agree with Firepower that activism is not anywhere near where it should be (as I frequently state). In fact, I often get heat from armchair bloviators like Rob Fedders for saying this (he doesn’t deny the validity of it, rather his hissy-fits are of a ‘don’t shine light on our weaknesses’ nature).

But the URLs @ Urinals campaign has had an effect, even if just 5-7 guys have posted flyers substantially. It is an easy way to expose our ideas to thousands of new men, since 99% of men don’t spend so much time on the Internet.

We need to reach them. Take an hour or two and post flyers! It is not just posting anywhere, but specifically in a high-visibility location where they were not expecting to be presented with a jarring red-pill thought.

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crypter27 March 15, 2012 at 16:06

The fight is far from over,but victory is in our sights!

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Hmm March 16, 2012 at 07:13

“Not in that much detail. But the fiscal piece is the largest part, and that is pretty straightforward to analyze on a timeline. Without a huge state, feminism just cannot exist.”

@TFH: Could you please elaborate on how you map the fiscal issue on a timeline?

And next question, why would Keoni Galt be wrong that the anti-male bubble bursts before 2020?

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Firepower March 16, 2012 at 12:13

TFH March 14, 2012 at 19:02

I’ll agree with Firepower that activism is not anywhere near where it should be (as I frequently state). In fact, I often get heat from armchair bloviators like …
But the URLs @ Urinals campaign has had an effect

You MUST post quantifiable results of that success – or the likewise, armchair dim-downvoters will crush you, as they are now.

It seems they prefer disagreeing
with you
than actually DOING something – any thing.

Venting is
safe

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TFH March 16, 2012 at 21:15

It seems they prefer disagreeing with you than actually DOING something – any thing.

Of course. There is an entire sub-group now that immediately discourages any and all action.

Sort of like the anti-game group that expends energy slamming Roissy and Game but doesn’t really have any counterpoints, since Game indicates that some degree of personal betterment *is* in the man’s control.

You MUST post quantifiable results of that success –

Not sure how, since building awareness is a subjective measure. The main idea is that 99% of men are not on the Internet quite that much, so we have to reach them in an efficient yet hard-to-forget way. Gradually, over time, more men become aware, and start to avoid playing the role that feminism wants to trap them in…

But I am not sure how to quantify the rate of change.

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Firepower March 17, 2012 at 11:55

Not sure how, since building awareness is a subjective measure.

Then, the inability to publicize an activist action as a victory is lost on those you would recruit by a win.

Everybody wants to join a movement in growth.

But, it looks like it doesn’t matter, as this thread has prematurely died as all hands on deck are busily condemning The Latest Outrage!®

Some recycled Jane Fonda stuff – divulged 47 years ago.

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Firepower March 17, 2012 at 11:56

crypter27

The fight is far from over,but victory is in our sights!

Good for you.

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TFH March 17, 2012 at 18:43

Firepower,

Then, the inability to publicize an activist action as a victory is lost on those you would recruit by a win.

Oh, it has been publicized, and hundreds of hours of flyer-posting has happened (albeit by just 6-10 guys, so not enough). I’ve done the legwork too. But yes, that more guys could not make this minimal effort (or present better ideas) means they aren’t really incensed enough to take real action fight against misandry, and would rather bloviate.

But I am not sure how to quantitatively measure what portion of the growing awareness is due to this or not. All ideas are welcome. Maybe a poll of ‘was your first visit to an anti-misandry blog less than a year ago’, or something.

But flyer posting is pretty much a leap of faith, where if a thousand men see it, some percentage of them come to the websites and perhaps learn life-changing concepts, and in turn themselves post more flyers, which more men see, and so on…….until perhaps more real activists come in.

Anyway, thanks for keeping the heat to take action on. Too few guys demand activism from this ‘sphere.

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Firepower March 18, 2012 at 18:48

TFH

Anyway, thanks for keeping the heat to take action on. Too few guys demand activism from this ‘sphere.

You make a lot of sense in an excellent argument – and did so wisely, in an environment predating today’s glacial passivity. Accurate prophets are to be valued, not scorned.

I wrote a reply, here on this thread to you earlier, but it was surprisingly quashed. Or, left un-approved by a vacationing host.

I wish you good fortune in mining for gold amidst the dross.

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Misandry Bubble March 20, 2012 at 22:35

We all know that the illuminati and the global elite spread feminism to deplace men as wealth builders and double their tax base.

But the worst part about this situation is our kids and grandchildren must face a world where you are judged mostly because of your sexual organs.

The global elite want women to own as much money and real estate as possible because they are easily controlled.

As long as men beg for pussy, they have no reason to stand up and fight back.

If you think this is a laughing matter, they are spreading this ideology to BRAZIL!

Google “Minha Casa, Minha Vida” aka My House, My Life.

The global elite will soon push corporate values and feminism across the entire globe.

Please do every man, woman, and child a favor by educating them on what will happen in a society where men are useless.

Just look at Russia!

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empathologicalism March 27, 2012 at 07:16

Gynecomastia

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apathetic gen-xer June 7, 2012 at 16:11

I know I’m a little late to the party, but isn’t all this talk about “game” just more indicative of the “pussy begging” others mention? I mean(speaking as a jaded middle-aged white man “omega” or whatever shunned by pretty much everyone, let alone women), wouldn’t this angry man revolt of the feminazis occur much faster if we just, I don’t know, ate a shitload of graham crackers(or other such anaphrodisiacs) and let all the sluts and cougars live alone without our hard-earned funds while their federal reserve-borrowed dole dries up?

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will June 12, 2012 at 04:02

Alcuin how can I get invited to your blog? I was a lurker around your blog until the invite only shut me out

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Annapurna1 August 11, 2012 at 16:30

im one of those few women left that still sees a place for men in this world (besides the corporate gulags..that is).. and i could not agree more that misandry is just plain bigotry..and simply cannot be tolerated in a civilized society…

as a leftist..however..i take umbridge at the fifth horsebutt putting us in the same bin with the misandrist bigots ..the left is concerned with equality for all people.. which includes men as well as women…

furthermore..TFH conflates misandrist feminism with socialism.. but at the same time points out that women entering the workforce lowered wages (“labor [sic] costs”)…lower wages means more economic inequality…not only is that the exact opposite of socialism.. its also what started the global race to the bottom…

but despite TFHs ignorance about socialism and the left..he is still quite correct in calling the misandrist global economy a tyranny…

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TFH September 27, 2013 at 12:48

Annapurna,

TFH conflates misandrist feminism with socialism.. but at the same time points out that women entering the workforce lowered wages

I said nothing of the sort. Anywhere.

If you have to assign positions not stated in The Misandry Bubble or in other comments by me, you are a loser.

but despite TFHs ignorance about socialism and the left..

Nonsense. Feminism is the byproduct of big government. Leftism is big government.

….Unless you are going to say that there is a form of leftism that is small government.

It is you who are ignorant about what leftism really is. Get a clue.

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Anonymous December 20, 2013 at 13:01

i laughed at the extracts, let alone the full piece. protip; “beta” is not language that makes you sound cogent and rational, while paranoid ramblings about the downfall of civilisation are traditionally not a great persuasive strategy.

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