What do Men Want in a Wife, and Why Won’t Wives Oblige?

by W.F. Price on March 6, 2012

Uncle Elmer posted a nice photo essay demonstrating his wife’s skill in cooking, which was impressive by anyone’s standards. One could fairly call his wife a chef. However, as impressive as it is, most men don’t expect that much, and of course most would be disappointed if they did, because not many people, men or women, can cook like that. In fact, there is one thing above all that men want from their women: that they are pleasant.

A girlfriend or wife doesn’t have to have the looks of Giselle Bundchen, the homemaking skills of Martha Stewart or the bedroom skills of a professional call girl to make a man happy. All of these would be nice bonuses, but they are not nearly as important as the ability to make a man feel relaxed, content and appreciated. A woman who is mediocre in all of the former attributes can easily make up for it by being a sweet, pleasant person who takes the edge off at home. Men are surprisingly easygoing that way, but for some reason women can’t figure it out. Perhaps it isn’t in their nature. It may be that being pleasant goes against their instincts, and is impossible for them in our hyper-competitive society. Maybe seeing a man content and wanting for nothing is a disgusting sight to a woman, who prefers an ambitious, striving man. Or it could be that she feels as though his contentment suggests that he doesn’t appreciate her enough, and she has to agitate and badger him into making some display of devotion.

I can’t say I know exactly why American women are so disinclined to oblige men in the simple matter of happiness, but I can remember how remarkable it was to me when I saw families overseas in which mutual appreciation and the resulting contentment was the norm for the middle class. For example, when I was riding a train from Hong Kong to Peking back in late 1997, just as my spoken Mandarin was starting to come together, I ended up in a room with a middle-aged Chinese couple, and made some small conversation with them. The husband and wife were entirely ordinary, but so relaxed, content and appreciative of each other that I was quite taken in by them. It’s something I have rarely seen in the harried American couples one sees out in public. The husband sat there with a smile on his face while his wife curled up next to him and addressed him affectionately with the Chinese equivalent of “my old man.” The two were part of what you’d call the Chinese middle class, or “lao bai xing,” which is comprised of ordinary, literate urban Chinese. Neither rich nor poor by Chinese standards, they live a humble, yet comfortable lifestyle. By American standards, they would have been quite poor and severely short of material goods, but here they were, as happy as I’d ever seen a comparable American husband and wife.

What is most confounding about the refusal of American women to simply lighten up and stop going after their husbands is how they refuse to do so despite the fact that it would make their lives much easier. The chores issue is a perfect example. Rather than do battle with a man over how many hours are going into housework, why not just ease up on the housework themselves? Lots of women put in nearly twice as much work as necessary, and then expect husbands to do the same. Additionally, do women really need that brand new car? Do they need a mcmansion (with all the attendant extra housework) to be happy? The striving and consumerism in the US is driven mainly by women, who account for over 80% of discretionary spending, and it can turn them into very unpleasant people.

Want to see what an unpleasant wife looks like? Watch this old real-estate ad from the boom:

That ad is no exaggeration. Nor was Kate Gosselin’s treatment of her husband Jon. This is the norm in the US, and it’s driven in large part by our women’s status obsession (envy) and consumerism (greed). Perhaps the value placed on economic competition and consumerism is a major part of the problem with our women. Rather than domestic harmony and peace, that new car, new house or new shoes take priority. In days past, this kind of obsession with material wealth was frowned upon, so much so that those with money went out of their way not to make too much of a show of it (and in fact most wealthy people continue to do so), but today it’s about the only “virtue” we have left.

So, I’ll offer a theory as to why American women have become so downright unpleasant over the past few decades. Women’s liberation liberated them not only from restraints on fornication, hypergamy and other sexual impulses, but from the acquisitive and competitive impulses that were also kept in check by old-fashioned morality, and for women these may be stronger than lust. We have to recognize that Western capitalism and consumerism were largely driven by female spending, so perhaps this explains some of the support for feminism from above.

If women are constantly striving for more, bigger, better and shinier, they won’t have time to relax and enjoy life as it is. I suspect this plays a major role in the dissatisfaction wives feel, and explains why they cannot stop pushing their husbands harder and harder. It robs them of the ability to be pleasant, and suppresses their better nature, as they struggle and strive with the frenzied crowd for that next shiny bauble. Today, our women are truly possessed and ruled by the dark forces of greed and envy, which rob them and the men in their lives of peace and contentment.

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James March 6, 2012 at 09:29

Western women have become totally UNPLEASANT to be around. They radiate their negative energy everywhere, and almost every word that comes out of their mouth is hateful, obnoxious, or just plain annoying.

I hate dealing or having any association at all with western women, and I avoid western women like the plague.

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Jennifer March 6, 2012 at 09:30

I’d say it’s not only a constant striving for more, but the deep-set feminist tendency to see men as competition. And possibly, just the incredibly frusterating, absolutely exhausting, confusion of not knowing what you are and how you’re supposed to fit with men and in general that so many feminists seem to have. When you see one layer of feminsm after another, each telling you generally that something natural is not really natural, it must be enough to wring someone out.

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James March 6, 2012 at 09:32

“I can’t say I know exactly why American women are so disinclined to oblige men in the simple matter of happiness”

Easy. It is called MISANDRY. American women HATE men. And they do everything they can to make men’s lives a living hell.

Thus, AVOID American women like the plague.

BOYCOTT AMERICAN WOMEN!

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meistergedanken March 6, 2012 at 09:36

Also, women are much poorer than men at handling stress. So now they go off into the work-place and come back in the evening emotionally rattled, miserable and primed to be bitchy when they have a tough time at their job. They walk in the door and then take it out on the people they are supposed to treasure and nurture the most. It’s perverse, I tell you. But hey, now you can get that leather living room furniture and big-screen TV!

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MKP March 6, 2012 at 09:42

An interesting and timely post, Mr. Price. I’d like to add something that doesn’t take away from, or disagree with, your examination of the subject; rather, that just augments it:

Many women will not oblige men in the simple matter of happiness because they truly don’t realize that they should.

You might say it’s in their “nature” to be envious, striving, and dissatisfied. OK, maybe … but a lot of things are in everyone’s “nature” that people overcome, simply because people (men and women, old and young, black, white, asian, latino, etc) are often made to see that it’s in their own best interest to avoid giving into that part of their nature. Or, at least, to avoid giving into that part of their nature immediately, constantly, and reflexively.

I am not exaggerating when I say that many young women truly DO NOT REALIZE that men are looking for a sweet, pleasant, enjoyable woman. When it comes to interpersonal reactions between men and women, they literally do not understand that men want a woman who isn’t always complaining and snarling. Seems impossible, right? Well, what we take for granted as obvious, they have never been taught. In fact, they’ve been taught the opposite.

Everywhere you turn – TV and movies, music, even in one’s own neighborhood – women are battered with images of “strong, independent, and sassy” heroines. Women who drive luxury cars and work high-powered jobs and who like to argue and find fault and “don’t take no sh_t from nobody.” There are no counter-images, because what man would publically say “actually, I’d prefer a girl who’s sweet, pleasant, and isn’t always talking and complaining?” He’d be crucified. So man just keep quiet, and women keep going about their lives with a catastrophically wrong conception of what men are looking for.

This is a very difficult problem to solve, because a solution would require first large numbers of women ADMITTING that they’ve been entirely wrong, and that so much of the sh_t they “knew” was actually erroneous. When large numbers of young women are willing to say “I actually don’t know the first thing about men, romance, or building healthy relationships, because my mother did a terrible job of raising me,” then we (men and women) can see some realy progress.

Needless to say, I’m not optimistic.

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JeremiahMRA March 6, 2012 at 09:44

Some research just came out supporting your theory Bill.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/relationships/9126265/Research-finds-women-feel-happy-when-their-husband-or-partner-is-upset.html

“Research finds women feel happy when their husband or partner is upset”

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Mikediver March 6, 2012 at 09:45

I am married to a Filipina. One of her best features is that she is happy. She works in a nursing home (well run and quite expensive but a very depressing place) where everyone comments that she is a ray of sunshine. One co-worker asked why she was always happy and she replied with something that I found to be very profound, “I am happy because I decided to be happy.”

We were in a mall in the Philippines a couple of years ago while visiting her family. I asked her to look around and tell me how it was different than in the US. When she took a good look she was amazed. In a US mall you see mostly women and some children. If there are family units, the woman is angry, screeching, harranging her husband, and yelling at the kids, who a running wild. The husband is walking a few steps behind, carrying the packages, and has his head down absorbing the abuse. In the Philippines the mall was completely different. The bulk of the people were there as family units. The woman was holding the husbands hand or arm and relating to him as if she actually liked him. The man was in charge of the kids, who were generally well behaved. Everyone seemed calm and to be enjoying the time.

American women are too angry and bitter to do anything well. Avoid them whenever possible. They are miserable by choice, and will make everyone around them miserable if they can.

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Opus March 6, 2012 at 09:50

I very much regret to say that this unpleasantness which I too come across particularily with Americanadian women is also endemic with the Anglobitch (Irish women have always been in a league of their own when it comes to red-faced foul-mouthed, drunken offensiveness). It is not however inevitable or universal in the female of the species. In particular (and my male friends all notice this) the Spanish (men as well as women) are delightful to talk to and to be with at any time; relaxed, easy-going, and frankly usually much better looking and without either sexual sluttiness or sexual hang-ups. And they can cook!

Have Anglo-American women, in their pedestalised narcissism, any idea or are they even remotely aware of the extent to which men simply loath them?

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Oddsock March 6, 2012 at 09:54

JeremiahMRA

“Research finds women feel happy when their husband or partner is upset”

You don’t need any research to discover this. You can ask just about any man on here and many other places. They will tell you the best way for a man to upset a woman is to behave or appear happy and as sure as night follows day, she will do her utmost to make you miserable. This will make her happy.

Course NAWALT. My feckin arse !

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James March 6, 2012 at 09:56

Reply to Opus:

“Have Anglo-American women, in their pedestalised narcissism, any idea or are they even remotely aware of the extent to which men simply loath them?”

Well, my Boycott American Women blog reached hundreds of thousands of people, and the women were VERY UNHAPPY about it.

Western women cannot handle the truth. They are so extremely delusional and living in their own fantasy world where they believe themselves to be perfect princesses, that anyone criticizing them is simply blocked out.

Western women are completely brainwashed robots. You cannot get through to them. Just AVOID them and let them rot in their misery.

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Zorro March 6, 2012 at 09:58

@Mikediver: I once worked at Harvard Medical School. Part of my job put me in constant contact with foreign doctors on J-1 visas. One such clinical fellow was from the Philippines. We palled around a lot. He told me that, as a Philippine national, he was very upset at the typical American notion of a woman from the Philippines.

“They are not stupid, submissive doormats who bow and scrape at your every whim,” he once began while we were enjoying the local microbrews. “My wife is better educated than I am, and she was worth 2 million dollars when we married. That was 6 years ago. She’s worth over nine million today, and you’ll never hear her complain to me…ever. As a doctor in the Philippines, I was lucky to make 30 thousand dollars a year. My wife certainly didn’t marry me for my money!” He went on to say that Filipinas are brought up to fill a role in the family, as are men. And the women never conflict with their men. They support them.

You’d know better than I would. I only know what I was told, and what I have experienced from the few Filipinas I have met.

An American woman? I’d rather fuck a German shepherd.

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BSimpson March 6, 2012 at 10:06

I believe it is the fact that most western women no longer understand what the ultimate sacrifice means. Since they assume that they have been given that gift as a God given right, they ignore that they also have something they should give.

Should I have someone willing to lay down their life for me, that person would have my utmost attention. It really is as simple as that to me. It is the protection aspect that unties families so long as everyone is doing their part.

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Rebel March 6, 2012 at 10:06

You can make a woman to oblige.

First, if she wants to live with you, set the conditions up front: no marriage and be a good wife: here are the rules.

The worst thing she can do is to say “No!”

Next!

And if she says yes and still does not oblige, dump.

I bet you my last shirt that if all men did that, women would oblige obligingly.

And if they don’t, who cares?

So simple nowadays. I wish it had been that simple when I was young. You guys are rotten spoiled..

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Theo P. March 6, 2012 at 10:08

“Lots of women put in nearly twice as much work as necessary, and then expect husbands to do the same.”

A good portion of my clientele is that dread demographic known as “soccer moms.” It finally occurred to me what their thought pattern must be:

“Important people are busy, therefore busy people are important.”

Hey, we all want to be important, right? And hey, hard work and self-esteem share the same relationship.

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Thomas Tell-Truth March 6, 2012 at 10:19

Modern western women exist in a state where they are given rights and choices but no obligations. For a woman to cook, to clean, to be want to please her man would imply that women have obligations. The only obligation a woman has is to please herself. Everything else is just an accessory to her happiness. A man is only valuable to the extent that he serves her desires.

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Raj March 6, 2012 at 10:27

Actually there’s not a big difference between American, Filipino, Chinese or any other women. They are each acting in a way which they precieve will be in their own best interest. Its just the culture they have been marinated in.

Women in other cultures are nicer to their husbands because in their preception husbands are “voluntary providers” and can walk away at any time.

Western society’s husbands are “involuntary providers” because even if they walk away, there’s alimoney and then there are taxes. The ladies’ basic needs are guaranteed, they thus don’t have to be nice to anyone.

Then there’s the problem of consumption driven happiness. Society does not push values of contentment with less, humility, sacrifice, delayed gratification, forgiveness because there’s no money in it. Happy people shop less.

Miserable people crave company. Women are miserable because have become mere instruments of wealth extraction but they have no one else to blame. They lost the test of temptation.

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dragnet March 6, 2012 at 10:43

“We have to recognize that Western capitalism and consumerism were largely driven by female spending, so perhaps this explains some of the support for feminism from above.”

Well, yes. There’s a lot of harrumphing about radical leftists and feminists in the manosphere, but the culpability of the free-market right in enabling feminism passes mostly unremarked upon. The fact is that the business class and free-market conservatives got together and shipped the manufacturing jobs overseas where the men would work for cheaper. Foreign working class men were economically empowered at the expense of the American working class. These jobs didn’t “disappear” so much as working class American men were sold out for profit, rendering them unable to satisfy the demands of hypergamy. At the same time, the free-marketers also pushed for greater female participation in workplace as it doubled the consumer base and depressed wages.

It was feminists who agitated for sexual liberation, but it was the free-market right that empowered the feminists economically. It’s only fair that they take some heat on this.

Aside from all this, it’s interesting to observe that women have no problem being pleasant with their male bosses and employers–it’s their husbands that rarely or never get to experience this sweetness. Modern American culture has basically taught women that it’s better to be dependent on your male boss (who really doesn’t give a fuck about you and can lay you off at any time) than your husband. It also doesn’t hurt that her male bosses satisfy hypergamous impulses while husbands, increasingly, do not.

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Anonymous age 69 March 6, 2012 at 10:43

I have written for many years that you can tell the difference between a Mexican woman and an American woman from 10 meters away by the p*ssed off look on the face of the American women. I have had men on message boards come back from a short trip to Mexico, and post, “IT’S TRUE!”

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keyster March 6, 2012 at 10:55

Feminism drummed it into their pretty little heads that Men are the problem, the reason for any discontent they might be feeling. It began with “The Feminine Mystique” which led to a mass revolution of enmity towards Men, that became the mainstream narrative in the 1970s.

They don’t even pretend to act pleasant in public or on first dates anymore. They just constantly feel as though they have to bust balls, be defiant and righteous about every little matter, and that Men will accept this behavior because if they don’t they won’t get laid.

They aren’t fellow humans anymore. They’re perpetually recalcitrant, self-obsessed cretins that now believe a relationship is a competition with winners and losers. It wears a man down — or as Sheryl Crow opined, “Are you strong enough to be my man?” No, actually I’m not; if that means having to put up with your childish shit tests and nagging for the rest of my life.

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doclove March 6, 2012 at 10:58

The author, W.F. Price wrote an excellent article here. Everything he says is true. Most American men want a woman who is a refuge from the rest of the world. Most American men want to be a refuge for a woman from the rest of the world. I believe other men in the world believe and want the same. For some odd reason(s), most American women do not want want this. Other 1st world nation women to include Western European Nations, Canada, Austrailia, New Zealand, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Macau and Singapore are to one degree or another the same as American women. So are many Eastern European and chinese women. Divorce rates and bastardy rates are telling. Eastern European, Chinese(Most Taiwanese, Hong Kong,Macau and Singapore women are ethnic Chinese), Korean and Japanese women are on average easier and more pleasant to date than American women, but you should be careful about marrying them and even more careful about bringing them back to the USA as many if not most women worldwide would turn into harridans, sluts and gold-diggers the way most American women have if they could. I suggest not doing it. Then people wonder why I say that most American women should only be regarded as cum dumpsters in which any man should use the best latex condoms he can buy at best and many American women should be avoided as much as humanly possible including avoiding them altogether. In my heart of hearts, i really do want to think better of most women especially American women, but tragicly the mounting evidence indicates it would be a poor decision to do so.

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henpecked age 42 March 6, 2012 at 11:08

Well my wife is from China and doesn’t strive after the next shiny bauble and is still a total shrew. Oh well, no theory explains everything.

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Norm March 6, 2012 at 11:42

Western women for the most part(epecially Amerikan woymn) are only out for themselves. The liberal media is behind them. Remember when Limbaugh called Sandra Fluke (puke) a slut and had to “apologise”. He called her for what she was. Read this article and you will see many liberal commentators calling women worse and nothing happen.
http://www.gcnlive.com/wp/2012/03/06/media-bias-contraception-and-the-homosexual-agenda-all-connected/

The MRM is working. If only 5% don’t bother getting married or have as little to do with western women, the system will crumble. Remember when the USA was “short” 5% of oil and the havac it caused.

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Jiu Jitsu Maniac March 6, 2012 at 11:42

Amen! I used to date a banshee that did 4 times the necessary house work and got mad at me for not pulling my weight. The girl is much better, Asian too.

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Tom936 March 6, 2012 at 11:51

Henry David Thoreau said

Happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will come and sit softly on your shoulder

Perhaps American women are so intent on chasing that darn butterfly and forcing it to come to them that they make themselves quite unhappy. And yes, NAWALT.

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Bizzman662 March 6, 2012 at 11:52

On a side note,

WTF happened to A Voice For Men?

Did the feminazi’s take it down?

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namae nanka March 6, 2012 at 12:00

This female clock is really driving me mad, for her quarrelsome din doesn’t stop for a moment. The tongue of a quarrelsome woman never tires of chiming in. She even drowns out the sound of the church bell. A nagging wife couldn’t care less whether her words are wise or foolish, provided that the sound of her own voice can be heard.

She simply pursues her own ends; there’s not a grain of sense in what she says; in fact she finds it impossible to have a decent thought. She doesn’t want her husband to be the boss and finds fault with everything he does. Rightly or wrongly, the husband has no choice: he has to put up with the situation and keep his mouth shut if he wants to remain in one piece. No man, however self disciplined or clear-sighted he may be, can protect himself adequately against this.

-the Liber lamentationum Matheoluli, written around 1295 by Mathieu of Boulogne

http://www.theabsolute.net/misogyny/matheol.html

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Mikediver March 6, 2012 at 12:03

It used to be, in traditional marriage, that each spouse had areas of responsibility. In the modern era we all decided to cast off traditional roles and each couple had to define their own marriage. It sounded good; freedom alwasy does. My parents were the traditional marriage. My mother did the wifely tasks; cooking, cleaning, laundry, and child care (7 kids). My father did the man’s work; earned the money handeled the finances, did the yard work, fixed everything. it worked for them because within each ones area of responsibility they were the boss. The other would never complain or direct the other in the other’s sphere of responsibility. If they did they would have their ass handed to them. This is not a sbmissive wife situation, and it never was. There were just limits on each.

The problem today is that women figure a partnership marriage means they are in charge of everything and you are their employee/servant. They feel they have to order you around to be in charge, and if they don’t they are letting you dominate them. One of the other commentors got it right; they figure marriage is a winner or loser competition and they are determined to be on top in everything.

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Me March 6, 2012 at 12:20

http://www.news.com.au/business/women-gangs-dominate-business-areas-creating-pink-ghettos/story-e6frfm1i-1226290981814

At least they’re contributing a lot to the private sector by growing HR departments and writing press releases.

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dawn March 6, 2012 at 12:46

I can honestly say all women are not like that. I can not say that there are very many, but there are women who really appreciate their men. I do my very best to let my man know that I appreciate him, I try my best to make our home a comfort for him and I accept that is my job as a homemaker to do that. He goes out and makes the money and I take care of the home (no I do not go out and spend his money, he is the one in control of the check book) we live in a small house (1000 sq. ft.) with two boys, we have a paid off van and we are very content. I am an American born and bred woman. I am saying all this because there are women out there.

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universe March 6, 2012 at 12:54

I can’t say I know exactly why American women are so disinclined to oblige men in the simple matter of happiness,…

– Well, I’ll take a stab at this.
As a start, consumerism. Secondly, status.

Consumerism. The want of being in possession of something and the ability to return the item if not satisfied. (marriage/divorce).
1970s and onward feminists, those wonderful creatures of projection themselves, often portrayed relations of the sexes as being a man owning his spouse.
I suggest the same can be said for some if not many contemporary women under the spell of today’s zeitgeist- in possessing a man or what he can produce or in possessing what things one can accumulate.

Yes, dear skeptical non-mra readers. Female humans can and do possess a possession complex like some men do. Yet in different scales of economy. The financial alpha male’s compulsion toward takeovers and holdings. Then there’s the multitude of the beta female’s household stocking of furnishings and trinkets. Like a bird feathering a nest one could say. Both driving economies but one is more the producer and many more the consumer. Soon happiness may be found in possessions and not in what is.

As for status.
The status comes in part from possessing items and not necessarily possession over self.
The status among unhappy women is the image of plenty or lack of want, not being seen as deficient in the ability to get or accumulate. Only losers can’t get things. Like the many men displaced from the workplace due to feminist insisted affirmative action programs. Those who cannot accumulate or husband through accumulation are relegated to the stockpile of the unwanted. Then the girls become more unhappy because the men, unfairly pushed out of work environments, aren’t seen as being good enough as a real person because he cannot accumulate as much as she in her guaranteed existance.

Anyway, an opinion and a rough draft at that. Missing a few details but still willing to share regardless.

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keyster March 6, 2012 at 13:07

“Perhaps American women are so intent on chasing that darn butterfly and forcing it to come to them that they make themselves quite unhappy.”

You are the target of disdain and dissapointment in themselves, for not being able to attract a handsome and wealthy man of high status that everyone will envy her for. She can no more contain her disgust for you, than care what you think about it. You are the one responsible for shattering the dreams of a once young aspiring princess, who’s now relegated to picking up dirty underwear off the floor.

Could she have any lower opinion of a man than you?

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Doc March 6, 2012 at 13:28

I have found that a lot of women are confused, and unhappy because of that confusion. They are told from birth that they have to do things which they biologically resist. They do NOT want to compete with men, they do not want to have a career, they want a man to take charge, even if they resist it because no woman ever knows what she really wants. They want to nest, and have a man who is strong enough to be a man.

I learned long ago to ignore what women say they want, as well as everything else, and look at what they find attractive and respond to. The reason they go for an alpha is because he takes charge and does what he wants, and puts her in the submissive role – which they resist but crave.

I don’t expect everyone to agree with me, but it is what I have found in my life. I found that the more I demand from the women I am with, the more they give. They don’t want to make decisions, don’t want to have to do things, they want to be told what to do. If they see they can make you happy, that is all they really want. The highest praise I give a woman is a sigh of contentment, and to pull them to me. They know they did good. And that is what every little girl wants – to know that she did good. It doesn’t matter if she is 8 or 28 they are still that same little girl inside.

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Opus March 6, 2012 at 13:30

Off Topic

I see that Tom Martin – the student who is suing the LSE for its anti-male Gender Studies course which he walked out of, (and where I am on record here as predicting that he will lose) is on BBC Radio 4 tomorrow morning at 10.30 am in their Women’s Hour Programme (No there is not and never has been a Man’s Hour) in a discussion entitled ‘Have women finally shafted men’ or something like that. I am not sure whether R4 is available even on the I-Player outside the U.K. Let’s wish him well, though frankly I regard arguing with women as a bit like trying to wrestle with Jelly (Jello), so I am sure anything he says will go over their heads. Expect Ad Hominem attacks, Straw Man arguments and appeals to Authority and lots of outraged huffing from the pedestalled Princesses and probably a token Mangina.

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WayWest March 6, 2012 at 13:55

For the last fifty years, women have been told that all of the problems in the world have been (and are) caused by men. Simply put, they don’t give a flying f*** about the men in their lives. They don’t care about our needs, wants, or happiness. To them, we are put on this planet to serve them.

The brainwashing, as we all know, was by design. Power to the government, power to the corporations.

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Uncle Elmer March 6, 2012 at 14:17

I think the internet is monitoring my inner dialogue and creating a false reality to keep me glued to the keyboard. It’s unnerving.

Like this :

Beyond ‘Slut’ And Shopaholic: What Being A Gen Y Woman Is Really All About

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jmaureenhenderson/2012/03/06/beyond-slut-and-shopaholic-what-being-a-gen-y-woman-is-really-all-about/

elmer 3 minutes ago

Great essay J! The statistics are loud and clear about the Millennial gal.

She’s stressed, single, in debt, obsessed with her appearance, possibly saddled with a child and no husband, resistant to traditional sex roles, educated and proud of it, yet still believing she’s gonna have it all.

Men meanwhile, who haven’t changed much in what they want but are who increasingly wary of what modern women have to offer, appreciate hearing statistics like this which serve to warn them what they may be in for if they hook up with one.

They’re having a discussion about this right now at The Spearhead. Find out what men really want. C’mon and join the conversation!

What do Men Want in a Wife, and Why Won’t Wives Oblige?

http://www.the-spearhead.com/2012/03/06/what-do-men-want-in-a-wife-and-why-wont-wives-oblige/

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statusone March 6, 2012 at 14:21

I agree with all of this. I am so sick of living in North America for this one reason.

When I moved here from Europe as a young kid I was so excited to start dating because my notion of a woman was so pleasant and likable. After about 5 years of dating I noticed my interest waning. It’s this widespread misandry that comes out of the tv box and spreads amongst women and men all over the nation (Canada and USA). It doesn’t help that men think this is normal behaviour and accept all the shit that is thrown at them. I can not watch American television, I get’s me so angry, I stick to reading books.

I am so upset too because men are treating like scum at the bottom of women’s shoes. And it’s not the ones that are assholes – its ALL the men.

Too many examples to list, but I am in university now, and its okay fro girls to ignore guys that are looking at them, but when guys ignore girls due to being disinterested, they are the assholes. I have this happen to me all the time.

I can’t wait to make enough money to move back to Europe.

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Lavazza March 6, 2012 at 14:42

What men want from women is “le repos du guerrier”.

http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=1142590

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piercedhead March 6, 2012 at 15:48

I think it is in a woman’s nature to take whatever she has for granted and start lusting after that which she doesn’t yet have. She is born to complain, and complaining makes her feel better. It is as natural to her as it is natural for a chicken to scratch in the ground. It would be cruel to deny either their basic inclinations.

But where the West has gone so very wrong is in taking so much notice of the noise, and supposing that giving women what they say they want will make them happier (and shut them up). The simple truth is complaining makes them happier. It is better to leave them something to complain about – and do nothing.

There is a story about a New York landlord who was constantly getting complaints about how slow the elevators were in his high-rise building. He commissioned engineers to devise a plan to upgrade the elevators, but was reluctant to spend the millions of dollars they advised him to spend, so he hired another consultant to look at alternatives. The consultant advised him to install mirrors in the lobbies and inside the elevator cars. He did this, and the complaints stopped.

The consultant had correctly identified the problem: end the complaints. The engineers had wimped out and had listened too hard to what the complainants were suggesting, rather than why they were complaining.

Our politicians do the very same.

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buggeroff11 March 6, 2012 at 16:27

statusone, never ever stop being disinterested in females, it’s wonderful & so empowering not putting up with their shit tests. Females hate getting a taste of their own medicine that’s why they get so pissed off, the narcisstic princess is the only one on the planet don’t you know?

Men being called assholes because they refuse to be emasculated should be taken as a huge complement because you have just missed a bullet from those bitches, so be happy you have the strength to be a real man & not a wimp.

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Binxton March 6, 2012 at 16:40

“Thus, AVOID American women like the plague.

BOYCOTT AMERICAN WOMEN!”

It is not enough to just avoid American or Anglo women.

American men should show more bravery and dignity than running away from a pathetic child-like creature inside an adult’s body.

They must fearlessly confront such wicked women, and demand (not ask) that they clean up their act now.

A woman is highly suggestible to a man’s steely resolve, especially when it’s back up by righteous anger. They are naturally scared of men, as they must. If they weren’t, they could never be feminine or virtuous.

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Uncle Elmer March 6, 2012 at 17:14

“I think the internet is monitoring my inner dialogue…”

I meant monologue.

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RMM March 6, 2012 at 17:46

All of these would be nice bonuses, but they are not nearly as important as the ability to make a man feel relaxed, content and appreciated.

That’s why nothing is a good replacement for a woman.

Having nothing at home can make you feel relaxed and content when you go back after a hard day’s work. That’s two out of three, pretty good batting average IMO. If a woman can’t offer you all three, then she’s second to nothing.

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Alcuin March 6, 2012 at 18:04

MKP: Great comment. I hope it’s all right that I post it at my blog.

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Alcuin March 6, 2012 at 18:15

Abrasive-as-hell sisters add another dimension to this all. Getting fucked in family court is bad enough, but when a man has been all-but kicked out of his family of origin, he is facing a double whammy.

My sisters are fucking abrasive, so I avoid the family. This means that I’ve drifted away from my parents, who are feminist compliant.

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Jimbo March 6, 2012 at 18:48

There’s a lot of reasons why American women make terrible wives. They’re told their whole lives they are at the very least, mans equals, when they are not, so they start off by being misguided. They’ve wrongly been told their whole lives that they’re victims of men, so they have a chip on their shoulder. They’ve had so much information/miss-information directed at them in their lifetimes that they are full of information, which has given them a terrible case of knowitallitis, which in turn has led to their being close minded which in turn has made them ignorant. The information overload with so much misinformation has also made them confused. Many have been very promiscuous and promiscuity has negative psychological consequences for most women. They overrated their virtue, thereby thinking they deserve a man who is a stud, a genius, the kindest man on earth, the most tolerant man on earth, the most nurturing man on earth etc. Good, is never good enough.

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3DShooter March 6, 2012 at 19:26

@Welmer

“A girlfriend or wife doesn’t have to have the looks of Giselle Bundchen, the homemaking skills of Martha Stewart or the bedroom skills of a professional call girl to make a man happy. All of these would be nice bonuses, but they are not nearly as important as the ability to make a man feel relaxed, content and appreciated. A woman who is mediocre in all of the former attributes can easily make up for it by being a sweet, pleasant person who takes the edge off at home. Men are surprisingly easygoing that way, but for some reason women can’t figure it out.”

Actually they have figured it out – that is how they start relationships. Over time though, they find that the occasional drama get’s them just a little bit more of what they want – and men go along with it. Given enough time a little bit more becomes too much to bear, but they are unrelenting in their self interest.

I don’t know about the other’s here, but I seek peace in my life above all else. And when constantly pushed I will eventually say the one word no woman seems to be able to digest – NO.

MGTOW, the only way to personal peace though it can be a bit lonely at times . . .

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Rocco March 6, 2012 at 19:50

I vote for women hate men some of the time and can’t do without them at others.

They hate them when they’re having their period or pregnant, including post partum.

And crave certain ones during ovulation.

All the rest is business to them and they are convinced to the core that thy are superior to me, mainly because of how men let them treat them.

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MT459 March 6, 2012 at 20:52

Yup..pretty much. Most middle class and upper middle class American women think they can do without men in their lives, however, this leads them to be miserable. It is rare, and I mean RARE that a somewhat attractive woman in her late teens/early twenties wont have some man who is involved with them or is an orbiter. They NEED, and I stress the term NEED some sort of male validation or else they have no other way to seperate themselves from the other girls.

Problem is, many men in our society can’t seem to find a reason to court a woman other than for sex…and when said woman isn’t appealing in the long term (because she is a slut, like so many women under 30 are these days), it creates an imbalance. That’s why you see all of these “man up” ads. There are more women who want me to commit these days than men who are willing to commit long term. They think shame and social tactis are effective…well, they aren’t for men. Modern era men know how slutty and disgraceful women can truely be and it’s a neutral investment (at best) to court a woman under 30, plus they don’t fall prey to macro shaming techniques because men don’t respond to the same factors women do. Face if fems…you lost and the future only shows how wrong your twisted faux ideology really was.

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Anti Idiocy March 6, 2012 at 21:06

Man, if you haven’t already done so, you guys should look at the comments to that article that JeremiahMRA linked to: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/relationships/9126265/Research-finds-women-feel-happy-when-their-husband-or-partner-is-upset.html

Even five years ago, a man who spoke up for men would have been ridiculed and swarmed over. Now, the majority of comments on an article like that are often to some extent pro-MRA.

The sleeping giant stirs.

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Anti Idiocy March 6, 2012 at 21:13

There’s a dynamic that I became aware of years ago. When something bad happens that negatively impacts a man and women equally, the man deals with it in some silence, processing it. The woman goes ballistic — bitching, bitching, bitching. Once that bitching irritates and depresses the man sufficiently, the woman is relieved. The total suffering that they had shared is equal to the suffering that the man now endures from the original event plus the bitching.

The woman is relieved. The man now bears the full amount of distress.

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Rebel March 6, 2012 at 21:29

@Binxton
“Thus, AVOID American women like the plague.
BOYCOTT AMERICAN WOMEN!”
It is not enough to just avoid American or Anglo women.”

You got that right! It’s not enough.
The true solution is found in factories, at Q&A and it’s called “Reject and recycle”
When a defective part comes out of the assembly line (such as an Anglo Saxon woman), it is rejected, melted down and recycled.
(put back into the sausage machine until they come out perfect)

High Quality Assurance (or Total Quality Control) is what made America great.
To reject A.W.’s is insufficient..

Recycle them!

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Micheal March 6, 2012 at 23:00

I am amazed as I read this… I am a middle aged guy, that feel in love with (at 16) and married the Typical American Bitch. We were together off and on almost 30 years… And this Article pretty much explains it all, their is no pleasing them… any attempt to TRY is an ASSAULT to them and they WILL FIGHT BACK… the more I tried to bring peace into the relationship, the worse it always GOT!!! Today I am ALONE, but I have peace. Maybe not happiness, but at least peace. It is sad…

I would never go back to a “relationship”… when it gets the worst, and the sadness is deep, I just hop on the motorcycle… and RIDE

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crella March 6, 2012 at 23:05

Jesus, it sounds like everyone in that comments section is married to my mother! I saw so much of that sh*t growing up. As soon as Dad’s butt would hit the couch, ‘You’re done? Then I’d like you to do/go…’

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Art Vandelay March 6, 2012 at 23:15

Problem is, many men in our society can’t seem to find a reason to court a woman other than for sex…and when said woman isn’t appealing in the long term (because she is a slut, like so many women under 30 are these days), it creates an imbalance.

Great point. I usually find myself looking for sex partners, not life partners because I can’t bear them for long enough when the novelty wears off.

A lot of women seem to want the man to constantly prove to them that they are worth more to him than just sex, that’s where all the shit-testing and ball busting comes in. He doesn’t love you if he wants to spend time with his friends. He doesn’t love you when he doesn’t plunk down 3 months salary for a shiny rock that some child with bloody fingers digged out the ground in Africa. He doesn’t love you when he doesn’t buy that house/car/vacation that you want.

As the great philosopher Karl Pilkington said about about relationships: “It shouldn’t be hard”. I already have a stressful job and life, I don’t need another stressful job as “boyfriend” or “husband”.

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Art Vandelay March 7, 2012 at 06:24

Art this is b/c you are only looking for a sex partner, as you indicate in the sentence above, and I bet you are not honest with them about that.

Well I’ve tried being honest as of late and interestingly it changes the dynamic a bit but not in way you might think. If I don’t concede to being in a committed relationship, that is the thing they want to extract first, but it’s a lot more easygoing when they know they don’t have me on the hook.

But, problems arise when two people want different things and they are not honest with each other about it.

Even worse when people aren’t honest with themselves first. I had a longer term relationship with a girl and she said her life plan involved children and getting married. I told her my plan didn’t. So the honest thing would be to break it off. But she didn’t.

How about finding a prostitute. I have no problem with legalizing prostitution.

Well, prostitution is legal in my country. But why would I spend money on something I can get for free (which also makes it more fun)?

Everyone is responsible for their own happiness.

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Pops March 7, 2012 at 07:15

“But, this does not mean that their roles are unequal they are just different.”

This is semantics. We use the term “equality” in the way that feminists use it (feminism is what we are responding to). Swap the term “equal” with “similar” or “identical” and you can understand what we are criticizing.

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j24601 March 7, 2012 at 07:17

It took a long time for the penny to drop: It is an exercise in futility to quest an anglo-woman who is pleasant to be around. I have wasted no end of my precious energy in seeking to satisfy this most basic of needs, but 40 plus years of feminist hegemony has, in my eyes, rendered anglo-woman a most unpleasant creature, to be avoided at any cost.

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Pops March 7, 2012 at 07:20

Art this is b/c you are only looking for a sex partner, as you indicate in the sentence above, and I bet you are not honest with them about that.

I would gather that a lot of women are trying to get men who have actually committed to them to constantly prove to them that they are worth more to him than just sex. The fact that he has committed to her seems to often not be enough to prove this.

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Uncle Elmer March 7, 2012 at 07:24

All of it true, every word spoken here.

OK, now for some Forbes.

When Career Coaching Is a Waste of Your Money

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kathycaprino/2012/03/07/when-career-coaching-is-a-waste-of-your-money/

elmer Just posted

What is a “career coach” but someone who has not been successful in their own pursuits and now thinks they can make a buck providing common-sense advice to others, as if they have the inside scoop?

Someone seeking career advice would be better off hanging around the public park and talking to the old men playing chess.

4 Reasons You Are A Career Coach’s Worst Nightmare

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If you are seeking the services of a “career coach” you are already a walking nightmare. Go to the library and read you numbskull.

What is it about today’s woman that she wants everything packaged and all the answers provided her? Our pro-feminist system raises them with constant affirmations of their superiority and entitlements but does not challenge them to seek life answers through their own tribulations. That is the path that most men face, and is in fact, the basis for most of our myths and legends. No man is interested in stories about other men enduring office angst, but tales of men enduring great loss or challenge and overcoming them to be transformed are always compelling. Women used to find the same rewards through their children and family but that path has been expunged in favor of seeking “validation” from their pear-shaped supervisor at Encorpera.

Pass the bottle.

Kraft Foods Dishes Out Their Recipe On Successful Content Marketing

http://www.forbes.com/sites/marketshare/2012/03/07/kraft-foods-dishes-out-their-recipe-on-successful-content-marketing/

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Today’s woman wants everything packaged for easy preparation in her “micro-wave”. The micro-wave oven was brought to market in the 1950s by one Tex Thornton, who insanely predicted that packaged dinners would be the way of the future and would supplant meals prepared from scratch, as was the custom in the day. For a look at how things used to be for most men but is now considered an impossibility from modern western females, refer to this Spearhead Photo Essay :

http://www.the-spearhead.com/2012/02/20/a-man-wants-a-wife-not-a-co-worker/

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interested March 7, 2012 at 07:24

@anti idiocy

Thanks for the link. I read a couple pages of comments and one stood out.

“If a man speaks in the middle of a forest and there is no woman to hear him, is he still wrong?”

Very funny

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interested March 7, 2012 at 07:24

@anti idiocy

Thanks for the link. I read a couple pages of comments and one stood out.

“If a man speaks in the middle of a forest and there is no woman to hear him, is he still wrong?”

Very funny

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imnobody March 7, 2012 at 07:28

“Men are surprisingly easygoing that way, but for some reason women can’t figure it out.”

Actually they have figured it out – that is how they start relationships. Over time though, they find that the occasional drama get’s them just a little bit more of what they want – and men go along with it. Given enough time a little bit more becomes too much to bear, but they are unrelenting in their self interest.

Exactly. I don’t know about you but I find that my girlfriends have always overestimated their power over me. I guess they think this way:

Since imnobody treats me well [true, I don't know how to treat people badly], he must be very interested/in love with me [not true, I am not that young] and he is willing accept all the shit I want to throw at him [definitely not true].

So they start throwing me shit and I dump them. Then they start whining. My last gf sent me an email yesterday:

“I could have changed the things you don’t like. You took the easy way out: ending the relationship”

[Comment: it was her who wanted me to change things and not me but women don't do logic well].

This is the same woman who gave me shit consistently for one week because of a small thing. She ended up telling the conditions she wanted in me (every one of them abusive). I repplied to her:

“I surely don’t fulfill these conditions and, as a result, I am not the man for you. But I let you free to find this man who is going to make you immensely happy”.

After that, I have never seen her again and I only receive whiny mails.

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Pops March 7, 2012 at 07:36

“Research finds women feel happy when their husband or partner is upset”

Here is another study somewhat related:

“Smiling men less attractive to women”

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2011/05/24/science-smile-men-attractive.html

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M. Simon March 7, 2012 at 07:54

American women all act like they have PTSD. Why? Well their movement is basically led by women who have been sexually assaulted. And they teach that (including hyper-vigilance) to all women.

BTW generally women are twice as likely to have PTSD as men. And men deal with it better. They drink or do drugs.

So which is the feminist party? Try this out?

The PTSD Party

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MKP March 7, 2012 at 08:08

@ Alcuin – of course. Fix that typo in my last sentence, though.

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Bill March 7, 2012 at 08:09

“…it’s driven in large part by our women’s status obsession (envy) and consumerism (greed). Perhaps the value placed on economic competition and consumerism is a major part of the problem with our women. Rather than domestic harmony and peace, that new car, new house or new shoes take priority. In days past, this kind of obsession with material wealth was frowned upon, so much so that those with money went out of their way not to make too much of a show of it (and in fact most wealthy people continue to do so), but today it’s about the only “virtue” we have left.”

No kidding. My grandfather retired with a million dollars in the 1950′s and sold his big family house with a big lot and moved into a 1300 square foot house with a tiny lot in a lower middle class neighborhood. My grandmother always did all the housework; the smaller house was, I’m sure, a blessing for her after raising a family. I’m sure the smaller yard was easier for him to mow in the summer, which he did well into his eighties.

Were they happy? I was just a kid, but I never saw a word of disagreement between them. He never talked much, anyway.

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the more I tried to bring peace into the relationship, the worse it always GOT!!!

And that is your mistake. What she wants is a man stronger than she is. She wanted you to dominate her and all you were giving was placation.

Start slowly. Go for ties to start. As she weakens go more for the win.

If you can keep at it long enough you will get a woman totally devoted to you. But I must say that it can be a long hard slog. But I was always attracted to very strong women. My tough luck.

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Andrew S. March 7, 2012 at 10:10

Modern day mothers, white knights, and manginas really encourage this kind of behavior in girls. “Spunk,” and having an attitude may be cute when she’s 8, but most men don’t want to put up with it at 45.

I have seen it many times in the young girls in my family. While being “tough” and outspoken is applauded in the young girls in my family, there is a major problem with encouragement they get. And I may sound mean when I say this, but the women in my family are just not very attractive. The truth is most men are willing to put up with the outspoken, “confident” attitude of American women if she at least somewhat attractive, but there is little demand for it in average and below average looking women.

That’s the biggest problem with the American female attitude. Men will never stop putting up with shit from attractive women, but for women who on lower side of the looks scale adopting the same shit-testing, over confident persona of attractive women is not going to work out for them in the long run.

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imnobody March 7, 2012 at 10:56

And that is your mistake. What she wants is a man stronger than she is. She wanted you to dominate her and all you were giving was placation.

Yes, she wants to be dominated. This does not mean that this is a right of hers. I want to have a million dollars and f*k Eva Longoria. Everybody must think whether their wants are reasonable.

I don’t know about you but I don’t want to dominate a woman. I want to live and let live. I’m a laid-back guy.

Dominating a woman is tiring. They have more psychological energy than us. You come from work, you are tired and you must be alert because Ms. wants to bitch at you, throw you a couple of shit tests and have a little drama. So, if you are alert and have energy, you reject the shit tests and show you that you can dominate her. Everything is OK but you are even more tired afterwards. You can’t relax one moment: you have to be alert to some possible shit test.

Spending the next decades of my life trying to dominate a woman seems the hell to me. I’d rather dump the bitch and have a relaxed woman instead. Or be alone with peace. The woman who wants to be dominated can go find their own private jerk.

But I was always attracted to very strong women. My tough luck.

You mean “psychologically unstable women”. A strong woman knows how to master their feelings and be kind to everyone around. A strong woman does not demand others to be responsible of their feelings. She is strong.

A overgrown entitled little girl seems that creating drama and being bitchy is being strong. Sorry, but no. Giving your sh*t to others is not strong at all.

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Anonymous March 7, 2012 at 11:10

@pops

I think that Art is saying there that he is only interested in a sex partner and not interested in commiting to a girl.

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Michael March 7, 2012 at 11:44

I have to agree with “I don’t know about you but I don’t want to dominate a woman. I want to live and let live. I’m a laid-back guy.”

For me, I see this as my major mistake, if I want peace… and to relax, can’t have a women in my life. And for all a women can bring to a relationship, they are NOT WORTH the misery they crave.

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Jay D. Angel March 7, 2012 at 12:57

James said: “Western women have become totally UNPLEASANT to be around”

100% TRUE…and that’s why I married a lovely Asian lady from Cambodia. :)

American women are just dreadful. They’re rude, demanding, hateful, obnoxious, self-centered, obsessive, and they all think we should grovel like dogs to be allowed to kiss their asses. A lot of the American women I know hate my wife…because she’s sweet and not a nag. They actually hate the fact that they look and act like crap compared to her.

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Art Vandelay March 7, 2012 at 13:34

I think that Art is saying there that he is only interested in a sex partner and not interested in commiting to a girl.

Yeah, those worth further committing to are pretty rare and thus usually out of my league / taken. And it would be pretty stupid to settle at my age (late 20ies) when I’m pretty sure I can play in the better leagues later ;)

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Ethan March 7, 2012 at 13:53

W.F Price

Men are surprisingly easygoing that way, but for some reason women can’t figure it out. Perhaps it isn’t in their nature.

It is ignorance as much as indifference. Women are no longer trained by their mothers how to treat a man and the supplication/weakness of the average man(betas) does not give them an incentive to learn.

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tiredofitall March 7, 2012 at 14:44

“Western women have become totally UNPLEASANT to be around. They radiate their negative energy everywhere, and almost every word that comes out of their mouth is hateful, obnoxious, or just plain annoying.” – James

From the movie PCU:

Womynist #2: Um… Yes. We would like a beer.
Jock #1: Okay!
[turns around to get a beer]
Womynist #1: So it’s like, if you’re nice to them, they *bring* you things?
Womynist #2: Exactly.

Seems like a lot of women could stand to learn that lesson.

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AAvictim March 7, 2012 at 17:28

After they trick you into marrying them they get bored because they already won. They want to see how much they can use you up before they just take half of your stuff.

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Chinese_guy_in_Australia March 8, 2012 at 02:28

Even in Australia, I avoid American women who come and stay for a brief period. (Tourist/Exchange Student/etc)…I also avoid Australian women who have drank the feminist Kool-Aid. (Bare minimum contact. I waste no energy in getting to know them…I don’t want to waste my time. Because my time is precious to me.)

The good news is that ~70% of Australian women don’t adopt the Feminist ideology. They have decided to become stay-at-home mothers by choice. (This infuriates the other ~30%.)

Essentially, if I come across a loud mouth, aggressive, dominate female with a big ego-trip; I don’t socialise with them at all. They aren’t feminine. They are this weird “faux male” that wants everything to be perfect or 100%. (In the real world, nothing is 100%. So she’ll never be happy.) …Some have adopted the worst of men and have become female “management douche bags” themselves instead of actively deciding to be their best.

…For all intents and purposes, I don’t give a damn about their happiness. If they are unpleasant people, they deserve what life gives them. I rather be with someone nice. (Not perfect.)

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ahamkara March 8, 2012 at 05:07

Amen… especially the part about doing twice as much housework as necessary and then expecting the man to do the same. I used to walk around the kitchen with my ex-wife literally hitting me in the heels with a mop, obsessively cleaning a floor that had already been cleaned earlier that day – sometimes twice. And then complaining to me that she is “stressed out” and needs a maid? Give me a break. I mop the floor twice a month these days and nobody has died (the kids spend half their time here).

The funny part is, now that she is on her own, she’s much more relaxed. I think women are much more relaxed when they don’t have a mule to whip. Once they have a man around, they work themselves up into a frenzy of abuse that leaves them just as exhausted as the man. She’s just taken up with a new punching bag though – it will be amusing to watch her get angrier and angrier at him the closer they get to each other.

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ahamkara March 8, 2012 at 05:17

oh my god and how about the revolving door of garbage… wife is constantly buying new things to replace things that are still perfectly good, and then complaining about how there is too much “clutter” and why don’t I help her throw away all this perfectly good stuff!! Sorry to go on and on… I could write a book.

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Anonymous March 8, 2012 at 14:57

You expect to be the leader of a household without doing anything to actually having to LEAD. Nature abhores a vacuum, particularily a leadership vacuum. If your wife or partner is nagging you it is because she is the head of the household by default from your lack of leadership, not necessarily because it is what she wants.

You expect that women must submit to their husbands with out husbands providing any leadership role whatso ever. That is not the way leadership happens. Birds, lions, gorillas all have to prove themselves worthy before thier pack will follow. It is simply the rules of nature.

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Jabberwocky March 8, 2012 at 16:38

Bravo article!

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DCM March 8, 2012 at 17:11

“JordanMaria March 7, 2012 at 14:30

What the heck kind of women have all of you guys dated anyway?????

You obviously have been looking at the wrong kind! There are good, happy, loving women out there. You need to find them instead of complaining.

I’m an American. I don’t hate men. I love my boyfriend. I want him to be happy. I’m distressed when he’s upset. I respect him. I do all in my power to keep him happy. I expect the same from him. Women aren’t there to cater to you men. A relationship needs to be made of mutual respect and love.”

Females must start the mutual part. They don’t practice it.
It would be incredibly easy to make most men happy. Just like him without being bloodlettingly needy.
Such females are rare, like an honest lawyer.
There is hope. I met that guy once so the good American female probably exists, too. But she’s married and won’t leave him or cheat.

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tatters March 9, 2012 at 07:44

I’m all for being realistic about the state of western womankind (catastrophic), but we also need to be just as realistic about causes and effects. Women have always been difficult due to their biologically predetermined nature and associated limitations. What has changed — and intentionally so — is our legal infrastructure and propagandistic environment. You have to do some upstream swimming to get to the decision-makers behind this change, but if you start with the Frankfurt School you’ll be a hell of a lot closer to the mark than ‘consumerism’. Where ever they have ‘changed the institutions’ (not just the USA), you have the same, intentionally horrible results.

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DCM March 9, 2012 at 15:04

“tatters March 9, 2012 at 07:44

I’m all for being realistic about the state of western womankind (catastrophic), but we also need to be just as realistic about causes and effects. Women have always been difficult due to their biologically predetermined nature and associated limitations. What has changed — and intentionally so — is our legal infrastructure and propagandistic environment. You have to do some upstream swimming to get to the decision-makers behind this change, but if you start with the Frankfurt School you’ll be a hell of a lot closer to the mark than ‘consumerism’. Where ever they have ‘changed the institutions’ (not just the USA), you have the same, intentionally horrible results.”

Then what do you do?

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DelTaco March 9, 2012 at 17:43

“In fact, there is one thing above all that men want from their women: that they are pleasant. ”

Exactly so. Well done WF. So very simple, so very true.

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Binxton March 10, 2012 at 13:52

“I don’t know about you but I don’t want to dominate a woman. I want to live and let live. I’m a laid-back guy.”

This attitude is exactly why American men are saps and weaklings when it comes to women.

It’s because they wanted to be “laid back” and “live and let live” with women that we’re in the mess we’re in.

We must learn from our past mistakes, and be vigilant and resolute with women. From now on, we cannot afford to be “laid back” with women. We must vow never again to allow women freedoms and rights they are not biologically equipped to handle. Men must dominate women.

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imnobody March 11, 2012 at 12:05

Men must dominate women.

Yes, in the public realm. In the private realm, I’d rather be alone than having to dominate a spoiled child.

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imnobody March 11, 2012 at 12:11

Although if I am giving authority by the law to discipline my wife as I would do with a child, of course I would be willing to dominate women. You can’t dominate women when they have all the power: they can divorce at whim and have the kids and the money

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Ted March 11, 2012 at 15:41

“If your wife or partner is nagging you it is because she is the head of the household by default from your lack of leadership,”

Seems like there’s a lot of that around these days. Of course, in the Good Old Days, when Men were Men, there wasn’t any nagging.

Wouldn’t you agree, Anonymous?

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wingwoman March 12, 2012 at 17:34

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Peter South March 18, 2012 at 17:34

@ Wingwoman

When someone responds to you with silence it means you said something he can’t believe and he feels like knocking your teeth out.

It doesn’t mean say it again until he does.

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Sarah March 22, 2012 at 10:06

So many here wish to Boycott American women. I have no idea what it must feel like to have to put up with us and our foolishness. For the sake of the girls today and of the future, I wish that you gentlemen would try perhaps on a larger scale to show we women that we can thrive by getting back to the way things should be. We have moved so far left with the feminist movement, that we need to find middle ground again. No one should have to exist in the misery that men and women inflict on each other. There are women here, though potentially few, who long for nothing more than to please their man, raise successful children and have a joyful life. Would you see fit to helping us?

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John Prewett April 1, 2012 at 06:11

“A girlfriend or wife doesn’t have to have the looks of Giselle Bundchen, the homemaking skills of Martha Stewart or the bedroom skills of a professional call girl to make a man happy. All of these would be nice bonuses, but they are not nearly as important as the ability to make a man feel relaxed, content and appreciated. “…………

Agree, agree Agree !

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Justanothergirl April 1, 2012 at 17:35

@wingwoman
Even though I am a 25yr old American female, I must say that I disagree with every point you have. I am not in a relationship personally (I enjoy my independence) but all of my friends are men, and each of them are in a marriage or relationship. I see and hear how they must put up with their wives/girlfriends, and it truly sickens me at times. Let me go over the point that really struck me.
1. Some women DO nag. They either call, call, call the cellphone while he’s working, or come in during their/husbands lunch break with an additional laundry list that she could’ve probably done herself. Now, I will say that it sometimes takes a man longer to answer than it would a woman but if you are patient, he WILL answer your question, albeit after an additional 30 seconds.

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Anonymous April 7, 2012 at 17:39

Pretty wide brush you guys are painting with, huh? Clearly all American women can be lumped into a single category.

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Worthless Bitch April 9, 2012 at 22:58

It doesn’t matter how pleasant, beautiful, or feminine a woman is…she will never make an MRA happy because she is still a woman. NAWALT is rebutted with disdain…yeah every single American woman is a c@nt and there are NO happy marriages. Just because your marriage failed doesn’t mean mine will. Cue the downvotes!

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W.F. Price April 9, 2012 at 23:13

It doesn’t matter how pleasant, beautiful, or feminine a woman is…she will never make an MRA happy because she is still a woman. NAWALT is rebutted with disdain…yeah every single American woman is a c@nt and there are NO happy marriages. Just because your marriage failed doesn’t mean mine will. Cue the downvotes!

-WB

You know, WB, since your marriage is so good, I don’t know why you are so offended here. If you kick and torment an animal, it will snarl and be unpleasant — don’t you know that? That being the case, shouldn’t you be happy that you and your family haven’t had to deal with this unpleasantness? And can’t you have a little compassion for the people who have?

Men are not born to hate women. In the overwhelming majority of cases something happened to them. And despite the pretty lies women prefer to comfort themselves with, it wasn’t always entirely their fault.

WB April 26, 2012 at 23:36

I appreciAte you articles and find them informative because I don’t want my sons to be divorce raped or my daughters to wind up as single mothers. It’s the vommentors on these blogs and YouTube that alienate me and other women I presume. For some the woman hating is abominable. Insults about my saggy tits and sagging vagina abound, as well as reference to slut, whore, and worse. Iny opinion it detracts from the message of the MRM and makes many of it’s followers seem unstable. I know men have suffered but lashing out at all women as though we are a collective is not the answer. If you want women’s help stop pushing us out the door.

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Mae May 2, 2012 at 17:52

Well… I am probably exactly the kind of woman you all are describing here. I daresay you could call me a man-hater. I try not to be hateful towards men, my husband in particular, but it is a difficult battle of my mind and will. I don’t WANT to be a critical, snarling, unpleasant wife, but often I am just that. I know the woman described in this article because she is me. I am guilty of all of it.

So… why I am so angry? I don’t doubt my answer will resonate with many other “angry” women.

First and foremost let me say that I am well aware that I am completely responsible for my own happiness. I am not proud that I get angry and I always try to make peace before bedtime. I feel like I am always on the verge of a total breakdown because of all the anger I do suppress.

Things that don’t make me angry:

- How much or little my husband earns
-Living in a small house(I do)
-What kind of vehicle’s we drive (my car is paid for and has over 200K miles on it)
-What kind of ring is on my finger(I did not get an engagement ring, only a $50 wedding band)

Things that make me angry:

#1: Do men not know how (and yes this word does apply here) disgusting it is when they lay around all day on their days off? And on the days they do work, what a turn-off when they do the very minimum at their job and then absolutely nothing when they come home and before they leave in the mornings. My husband lies around the house in his boxer shorts while I either go to work or, if I am at home, work around the house. This has nothing to do with me wanting him to make money. MEN, LAZINESS IS A TURNOFF. IT IS DISGUSTING AND GROSS AND MAKES WOMEN LOSE RESPECT FOR YOU. How can I respect my husband when he is lying on the couch while I work on. And, news flash, women are wired to keep up with housework. It is in our DNA. My mom always did housework and my dad would leave in the morning after breakfast and go work his business. Then he would come home in the evening. He always worked from dawn to dusk as did his father before him. I think men in this generation have lost respect from women because it is hard to respect a slothful man.

#2. There is no #2. Get busy.

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willcater2u July 4, 2012 at 15:36

The article was very informative. I found it as I was researching what has happened to the male/female relationship world. I have listened to guys I have met tell me “Don’t be a certain type of women” they describe her as a women who are well educated, more than out spoken, and bossy, mainly pushing guys to do more, change what they are, men chasers or plan unaccomplished and desperate. Even the men who have said how sweet I am, are merely on a skirt chase?

The sad part is that I run into men that want to believe ALL women have some kind of agenda. I have accomplished my assoc. degree, I am happy, have no desire to compete with anyone, I am very humble and I just want someone to love and care for.

It seems like I am expected to compete with the women who are on a chase of the next best thing, career, job, man or material thing. The same men who say they want a nice women, kind, gentle, down to earth and happy with the simple thing s in life are the same ones who find a women like myself not so challenging. :(

When a person focus so hard on something like this, it is easy to turn others into what’s thrives in you mind to the point where the nice ones are not even given a chance. On the other hand people are so adaptable, I refuse to adapt by taking unsolicited advice from these type women. When I share the joy of meeting someone new, they automatically place negative labels on them. I come to a place where, i will not even share anymore. It’s sad that the younger generation are learning to behave in ways counter productive to the American race. Divorce rates shows this easily.

If and when a man find me and is willing to give us a fair chance, I hope to marry in a private ceremony with just the people who are positive and supportive of our union or just parents and siblings.

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Sophie age 35 July 18, 2012 at 01:06

My american husband was married to this american woman for 20 years until she filed for divorce.

This woman, during the duration of their marriage had forced him to buy from one house to another because she always finds fault in all of them, they have moved 7 times. Now my gentle readers, this woman from the beggining of the early 90s to the 2000, they were constantly moving until she found a perfect house,10 years later she filed for divorce and specifically wanted the house for herself.

She is never happy. She always makes it a point to make him miserable by calling him names like ” fag”, “pedophile” or “child molester”. She gave him emotional trauma by nitpicking everything he does. He lost his self-confidence, his ability to live because of the anxiety she caused him. She even gets to hit him so hard with her engagement ring with no reason at all ,his eye almost popped out. She brainwashed her children into believing that their father is a fag who doesn’t have balls, that he has mistresses around. The fact that he comes home from work at the right time.Their number was unlisted then until he receives calls from men who (thought it was her on the handset) asking if her vagina is wet. She even has stacks of pregnancy tests on the side when in fact he had his vasectomy done.

She even has the nerve to let him pay for her plastic surgery when they hardly had to make ends meet. I can go on and on.

Presently we’re happily married for a year and 5 months.

The reason why i’m saying this is because the number of american men are looking for wives outside the US is skyrocketing, they vetoed the femiNazis who think they’re God’s Gift to mankind. If these women are smart enough, they could have gotten themselves married to some millionaire if they can, but the truth of the matter is that, no millionaire would ever want a woman who doesn’t have CLASS. Why would he pick an ordinary woman when he has his pick of models? These women are blubbering Dunces with a capital D.

These American women were brought up to believe that everything is easy, that they’re born into luxury with a high sense of entitlement, that the Feminist Movement gave them the badge to Bitch. I still could not understand whats the fuss of this utter pretentiousness when in the end ,NOBODY cares if you have a fine house or car. I hope these women would live long enough to enjoy, Oops, they’re never are satisfied.

If women want to act like men, why can’t they be more like gentlemen?

Why go home to a mangy dog?

And if you happen to bump into my husband’s EX, Appreciate her beauty, that’s all there is about her, that’s all she ever has.

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RudeBoy July 29, 2012 at 15:14

http://www.whatmenreallywantrevie​w.com is a great website that gives tips on simular topics. Also a great review of an awsome book that is well recommended.

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Daisy August 4, 2012 at 00:21

There are some women out there that still have these beliefs in being content and pleasing to her husband. I believe in being a proper woman, a lady and being respectful of a husband. ( if he’s kind and considerate and is deserving of course). There aren’t many women like this any more. I am one of few. I know women have to work in some cases and there is always a lot of hats to wear. However, there is nothing a man hates more than.. “Hi honey I’m home” and the first thing out of his wife’s mouth is complaining wining bitching.. It might be why a man spends more time with his friends than you. All they want is a sweet loving nurturing wife to come home to. Sweet is probably the most important of those. Not to mention give the man a quickie once in a while .. I think I wife should never or rarely tell her husband no. (as long as he takes his time at other. Moments to give you a good round of lovin too). Men want sweet, a little sex, a little appreciation and a full belly and respect and that’s usually about it. I would love to find a real man that. Still appreciates that in a woman. After reading this forum I see they are still out there more than I realized. Reminder ladies your not men… Act like a lady and you will be treated as one.

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Shannon August 19, 2012 at 13:28

I think these posts are unfair. Men are asking for a woman who is sweet and pleasant all the time, makes them feel comfortable and happy. So in addition to having a full time (perhaps demanding) job, raising a child or two, taking care of the household chores, cooking, dealing with other daily issues and helping her husband pay the bills, she has to come home with a smile on her face, not complain and give him sex to make sure her husband is happy. Wow! Now if the men in this forum are all wealthy and can provide their lady with everything, then yes, there is no reason for the woman to be so damn miserable. But if you’re not, then you need to learn to understand why she is miserable. The life of today’s woman is just as stressful as a man’s.

I think men are selfish. And if you’re so unhappy with western or westernized women then you need to go to Asia and find someone there who is willing to oblige you. But be careful though, a chinese woman is a materialistic woman. So unless you can provide her with the goodies, she won’t smile either. I know this from experience. So you’re better off with a Cambodian or Philipina. Good luck!

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Malaysia cat woman August 29, 2012 at 19:53

Actually, all woman behave the same, no matter East or West. The only different is their heart, their atttidute :how they think, what they want. I am not sure why so many men hated western women and fond for Eastern women. sooner or later, u will discover all are the same. Good woman, bad woman everywhere. I am an Eastern woman who speak and learn English. I read books – East and West. So let me give u this advice : look to God, look to Jesus Christ and the Bible, where all answers are there!God is love. do not look to any woman or man, they will failed u – 100% guarantee! but if u Trust God, when he or she failed u, u will not get so hurt and wanted to die….love them with the love from God, forgive and forget. sacrifice, keep your self holy and blameless as much as possible, because God is holy.may God bless you!

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Jen September 1, 2012 at 22:06

I am north american, have a college education and also am a feminist. However, I believe that true feminism allows women choice. Choice of their own destiny. Choice to vote if they want. Choice to be the participants they want to be in society, which is a freedom every human being should have. With that said, I chose to be a housewife. I am a caring person by nature, I adore my husband, and there is nothing I would rather do than spend my day doing things to make my home warm and pleasant for my husband and I. I cook everything from scratch, every day. I fold clothes the way he likes. I tell him I love him, give him back rubs when he comes home stressed out, rub his feet when he’s tired, leave him alone to his hobbies when he needs to escape and relax. Despite all this, I’m sure if you asked him he would tell you I nag.
Why?
Because he married a woman who vowed to take care of him and provide him with a relaxing environment, and I married a man who vowed to make me feel loved and appreciated. A gentleman. Funny enough, after marriage the gentleman part kind of dissolved into thin air, leaving a man who takes all I give and gives in return very little attention or affection, has one job in the house (take out the garbage) and manages not to do it, and essentially will spend money on himself first and foremost which has the effect of sometimes leaving us with not enough to pay bills.
I don’t ask for fancy anything, I haven’t bought clothes in 4 years and I don’t care, I don’t want a giant house and I don’t want jewelry. All I want is someone who will be a gentleman and actually appreciate his wife in return for the appreciation she shows him. I am a person and I also have needs, uncomplicated needs actually, which boil down to being told I’m pretty once in a while, getting a genuine hug when I feel sad, and having a partner that keeps promises.

You guys blab about feminists and foreign women, but has it crossed your mind that all women want is love and appreciation? Has it dawned on you that while most of you are busy pointing at women for being unpleasant, you’re actually not being gentlemen? That’s how it used to work, the wife would take care of you, and in return you would protect her and provide. You would open doors for her, bring her flowers once in a while and pull her chair before she sat. Where did that go?

Maybe women got more bitter, I’m not going to say that they absolutely didn’t, but I think men got lazy. It’s hard to find a man nowadays who treats their woman as a man should, not as a Goddess, but as a lady. I think it’s a vicious circle honestly.

P.S. If you find mistakes in my post, please know that English is not my first language.

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Ashley October 1, 2012 at 07:20

As a woman I think you guys should let more women know the way you feel about this. It appears as though a lot of guys are very unhappy with women but I dont think women have a clue this is the way we are percieved by men. Its actually very sad that it’s this way. I do however think its great that y’all are discussing the way you feel and getting it out there. Men deserve to be happy and treated with a great deal respect. You guys provide women with so much yet get so little in return. As a wife, I have encountered many women who have a ridiculous view on how their men should be and they get so angry over the tiniest things their men do or don’t do. I must say that my husband and I have a great relationship because we both respect each other and give to each others needs. I have an emmense amount of respect for my husband simply because he is a man. Being with him is the absolute only thing I need to be happy and we’re not newly weds for those of you who may be wondering. He is my best friend and I his. Neither of us strive for the fancier things in life and we have the same goal, just a simple life. I think that not only men but women should always be looking for more ways to make their partner happy instead of focusing on how to get the newest luxury item.

In honesty it really makes me sad that a lot of women look at men as an accessory. They need a husband to go along with the fancy house, nice car, great job and perfect outfit. Men need the relationship too. Men need to be loved and treated in a caring gentle way. Nothing makes my husband more happy than when I take care of him and it makes me truely happy to do so because he deserves it. Most women have lost the drive to do this sort of thing because most modern women think that they are above men and shouldn’t stoop to this old way of being.

I know that there are alot of horrible unhappy women out there but please dont lose complete hope for all American women. I have known plenty of geniunely great and happy ladies who need a good man to share life with. I’m from Tennessee maybe you should start your search here.

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Christina October 7, 2012 at 22:49

I’m a Western woman, and I’m not at all like you describe. I have, however, seen women like you are describing all over the place. Not all of us are like that. I think that the way a lot of women treat men is very sad.

I am a happy woman, with hobbies and interests, and I’m open to try new things. I have a sense of humor, can laugh at myself, and make myself responsible for my happiness. Part of that involves the ability to find an incredible man that I respect, and appreciating and enjoying him. I tell him, and everybody else, how great he is.

I came here and read this article and it’s comments as I surfed around, looking for some new tips on being as valuable to him as he is to me, and I found it inspiring but sad. I hope you guys can be responsible for your own happiness too. Find a woman who you can treasure, then you can be happy instead of grumbling about how horrible and worthless we all are.

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Dave October 11, 2012 at 02:31

Australia seems to be the same as the women are obssessed with material gain. Driving around in expensive four wheel drive vehicles that will never go off road. Just another status symbol! Many have been purchased by there husband but some would have bought their own. Often wanting far more then they need. Never considering anyone else. May I add that there is exceptions and there are some fine women but less then is needed. The days of a man and a woman living in gender roles and in the natural resulting harmony has disappeared. All gone in approx twenty years.

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Jem December 6, 2012 at 00:09

This is a load of crap. Men are miserable with the women THEY select, because they choose the hottest, sexiest, bounciest chicks around. Women who have entitlement issues, because men drool over them. When men “wife up” these chicks, they are suddenly surprised that these women aren’t considerate or loving. Too bad, fellas! You ignored the ‘good, cute girls’ for the sexy slut – now deal with it! You deserve the misery you get for all your shallowness! I hate how men act like they had absolutely no hand in the creation of their own misery.

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CM80 December 16, 2012 at 06:10

Wow. This was such a powerful, well written article. And so many well thought thought out, well written comments as well. I would like to add one thing to the conversation if I may, and that is that there is one thing most of the men posting here have missed. I think many women are angry and less-than nice for all the reasons stated above but also because of the way we percieve men percieve us. How many of you men have made an object of our sex in the last week by looking at pornography? How many of you have looked at other women in lust while you were in a relationship with a real woman? How about glared at a scantily dressed woman walking down the street? We women can’t compete with that. We can’t compete with professional models who sell themselves and their sex organs on websites designed to arouse men. It hurts our feellings that you would even consider debasing us by seperating our bodies from our beings and actually take pleasure in it. The fact that you joke about it or watch movies where it is treated as “the norm” is disturbing beyond words and angering. A wife who is afraid that her husband is cheating on her with pixels is going to be very angry and bitter. And the woman who has had to grow up with men treating her body as an object will probably take out the anger and despair she felt over it on her husband.

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Anonymous January 18, 2013 at 14:49

I am an eastern European woman who was raised in America, and I can honestly say that in my visits to Europe there was even more materialism than there is here in America (although perhaps Asia is different – I have never been there).

But more importantly, a house is not just a mere bauble. Unfortunately, due to declining school systems and a rise in crime in inner cities, housing location takes on an absurd importance, so I understand when other mothers push their husbands to try to obtain housing in key locations. Why do they care so much about it? Is it for themselves, their status? No: it is because they love their children and are assertive enough to do all they can to protect them.

I believe what the author may have witnessed in other countries were couples whose children were either grown or who, because of a communist system, knew they had nothing to aspire to, and because of the absence of ambition, were able to enjoy a quieter life. That may be feasible in a country where there is no shame or stigma, or high crime associated with a more relaxed, perhaps less productive stance, but in America, because of the capitalist system (not feminism) – there are enormous pressures on young families (both men and women) – and I think the trends the author highlighted are better attributed to capitalism.

That said there are many women obsessed with other material things that are not of critical value (even perhaps a car – although the safety of children in a vehicle is important) – but I just do not think a house or school system should be lumped in with mascara or Uggs.

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anaserene July 16, 2013 at 14:44

As appealing as these personal projections onto the world are, as they are very relatable to many I am sure, I do not think they are a fair and accurate assessment. I think the systemic market forces at work, as pointed out by the most recent commentator, have a far greater impact on the lives of men, women, and children in the United States than the majority of you seem to consider. Yes, feminism encouraged women to strive for the choice to have the same options as did men, for example in education and in the workforce, but when women started working outside the home or having home based businesses than brought in revenue (daycare centers, for example, which then put a monetary value onto human capital which was otherwise devalued as “not” work) men did not 1) increase their share of domestic labor nor 2) decrease their work hours. This, among other factors, had allowed the middle class to live a relatively comfortable lifestyle despite the fact that real wages were, and have been, stagnant. I think that the past decade has seen a perfect storm of economic variables that are driving men and women and, most importantly, families apart. Because of unemployment, decline of well paying manufacturing jobs, and the need for two incomes to make ends meet, staying at home to do domestic work is now a luxury the vast majority of people cannot afford. Single mothers often cannot survive on welfare alone and are often working one, two, three jobs (despite the stereotype of welfare queens, who do exist but are not the majority). This puts greater pressure on the state and is both a symptom and cause to the rise in male violence and use of the criminal justice system. It’s very easy to blame women/mothers, but I think there is so much more at play. Men need to step up in so many ways. It’s easy to take the path of least resistance and play the victim role, but for every shitty woman there is out there, I am certain there is an equally shitty man who needs to take responsibility.

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Heather July 21, 2013 at 21:40

I am an American woman and all in all I agree with a vast majority of the comments. I am genuinely embarrassed to be associated with other women, which is a big reason I don’t have any female friends. I don’t have anything in common with women, I don’t like gossip, and I only have positive things to say about my man. I can honestly say that I love my boyfriend very much and (I doubt many will believe this) seeing him happy makes me so excited. He is a great man and deserves love and respect from a woman that adores him and I love to encourage any hobbies and such things that he wants to give a shot, and he does the same for me. Our three year anniversary is coming up next month and we’re both excited to spend that day together at a special event we’ll both enjoy (baseball game lol). I’m sorry for rambling, but I did want men to know that there are women out there who adore their men and want to see them happy. I hope all the men on here get to meet this woman that truly enjoys bringing and supporting happiness. Good luck and embrace what makes you happy!

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Johnny Boy August 29, 2013 at 23:38

Here are some things some men want:

http://blogs.davelozinski.com/datingandrelationships/what-im-looking-for-in-a-woman

It’s a good fun read, and a bit more realistic I think. Otherwise enjoyed your article! Thanks for sharing!

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lee September 15, 2013 at 17:52

What bull. Wonderful women are everywhere, but they’re not to your physical standards so you ignore them. You say you just want pleasant women, but i see time and time again, men choose the hottest chick they can get. You want hot chicks(which is superficial), but you’re surprised when the women are equally superficial. You get what you deserve.

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Artemis November 4, 2013 at 02:49

I am shocked by these comments, you can not seriously all american women behave like this because we don’t. Stop going after the superficial broads cause I tend to see that a lot; most men I have seen go after the Kim K type or the Rihanna and are so excited and so eager to show off his hot chick but get disappointed when she does have the qualities you’re looking for. So I don’t know maybe you guys should get out more or maybe try a different state cause not every american female is like that

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Kayte November 28, 2013 at 22:23

Well, I think this is a fairly accurate portrayal of how American women are treating men today – I think it’s disgusting. However, men have also been guilty of abusing their wives in a plethora of ways, that made feminism necessary, in the beginning. My own dad is a power hungry SOB that treats my mom like crap to this very day … same with her mom, and so on. I was fortunate to marry a very kind and wonderful man, and I happily outdo myself in the kitchen to please him. I find it a joy to make him happy in any way I can … to those good people out there that are stuck with a troll or a witch – RUN, JUST RUN and NEVER look back. I pray my mom will finally do that one day. I do think that men need to push back against this ridiculous feminazi crap though, and I hope they succeed.

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Jason December 4, 2013 at 17:34

I do not see any of those charming Chinese wife traits that you have written.
Try abusive, domineering, lazy, self- centered and thinking somehow that they are exceptional human-beings. Your in a dreamland !

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Salt and Light December 21, 2013 at 07:40

What you really mean when you say you want a “pleasant” woman is that you want a woman with no needs. She is a cardboard cutout who never asks for anything. You come home and sit on your butt and get cooed over while she is not tired, not needing affirmation for her hard work around the house while you not only get this affirmation for your hard work at the office, then you expect her to put in a second eight-hour shift of housework, laundry and childcare while you grin and watch TV. She never criticizes you for not helping, not cleaning up after dinner, not taking the children so she can have some peace, for throwing your dirty clothes around. She asks nothing from you and asks for nothing for herself. Now that’s pleasant!

And this whole, “she WANTS to be domineered, even if she resists it,” is simply sick. We do not want to be domineered or bullied anymore than you do. We WANT to be loved, and God commands you to provide it or He will not listen to your prayers (1 Peter 3:7). You are to LOVE

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Salt and Light December 21, 2013 at 07:48

And this whole, “she WANTS to be domineered, even if she resists it,” is simply sick. We do not want to be domineered or bullied anymore than you do. We WANT to be loved, and God commands you to honor us or He will not listen to your prayers (1 Peter 3:7). You are to LOVE your wife, love defined in 1 Corinthians as being “patient, kind, not selfish, not keeping record of wrongs, believing the best,” not doing anything to your wife that you would not do to yourself (Ephesians 5:25-29). Jesus came to serve His church, you should serve YOUR bride (Matthew 20:26-28). Try honoring, loving and serving your wife as the Bible commands, and you will find her very pleasant indeed.

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Nancy March 25, 2014 at 09:55

I th ink this article has some good information and bad information. I especially liked the comments about the different mall situations, one with women in charge and men walking behind and the women stressed out and the man unengaged whereas the other where the man was incharge and engaged and no one was stressed. Having been married 20 years to a man that enjoyed dumping all that came along in our life onto my shoulders, I was a very overwhelmed working mother of 3 and our household was not very pleasant. We divorced and the tables turned as he then had to build a relationship with his kids/family and my kids informed me Dad is stressed and not much fun to be around. Hmmmmm, I was out of the picture, surely he could, all on his own create a pleasant environment but he couldn’t because it becomes too much for one to handle. Following divorce my stress level went way down as I only had my issues and the kids issues (they lived with me) versus trying to get an unengaged partner to participate and do his part. Consequently following our divorce his stress levels went through the rough and he gained 80 pounds and has stress related illness(high blood pressure, diabetes, etc) whereas my health has become much better. So … was you watch couples engage, watch who chooses to be part of the union and who is largely just putting in time and that will pretty much tell you how pleasant things are. One one likes to be the dumping ground of chores and responsibilities for another and most people will become rather “unpleasant” when another is abusing them as such. Another contributing factor is that men aren’t all that pleasant, respectful, appreciative, honoring, or cherising of the women in their life today. They feel that it ‘natural’ for them to be out with their significant other and be on the hunt of beauty in other women and feel that their wife/gf just needs to be secure in herself. I don’t know of many male or female that this works for yet that is the Western man’s mantra “that is who I am deal with it”. Well, women are responding with unpleasantness so …. deal with it :) You reap what you sow – men seem to have forgotten that. A woman’s unpleasantness and need for the “movement” didn’t happen because things were going so well for them, ie. men were being such protectors and gentlemen. Instead it was created because men could no longer be counted on to do the right thing which is rather unpleasant. So again, men are reaping what they have sowed and since they want to blame women instead of taking responsiblility I don’t see things getting any better. If I were to sum up the Western Man’s attitude it would be this – give me what I want, when I want it, and I don’t want any bad consequences resulting from those demands and behaviors. You know how many millions of babies have been murdered through abortion because men wanted “free sex” (sex without consequences, committment, marriage)? Dumping the responsibilities of pregnancy onto a woman, he used her for his pleasure then discarded her and the child (it was his because he didn’t intend for it therefore he takes no responsibility, yet she has to, she can’t just walk away, so darkness). Men have created darkness and now are whining about it, you reap what you sow. It is just the way it is. And, other cultures are changing to if you haven’t noticed, it isn’t just the western world and it will affect the entire world in time because technology will put alot of garbage in our head that will change how we treat those around us, what we consider normal (which isn’t), how we dump responsibility and take advantage of people and if you think someone is going to take that with a smile (pleasantness) on their face, well, you are freaking irrational and crazy.

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