The Problem With a Gay-Tolerant Military

Please keep the military-related stuff coming.

I just want to say this country is in deep shit for turning its back on its military men. It has been pussified beyond repair to accommodate under qualified women. The average person has no fucking clue how hollowed out the military is. They think more women in uniform is a good thing when they are nothing but dead fucking weight.

To any man reading: the military has been deeply contaminated by feminism.

This nation is FUBAR.

In gay porn there is a whole genre devoted to military fetish. Many gay guys really desire young, fit men in uniforms.

Gay men are also sexually much more promiscuous and active than hetero couples. The women in the military are more likely to say “no” to a guy, than a gay man. Gay sex has a completely different dynamic than hetero sex (more no strings attached encounters with more partners). It’s too sets of raging testosterone coming together.

The truths in this article might become evident only later down the line.

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Although I disagree with some of the assumptions in the article, this is my basic sentiment on the subject.

The United States of America: legal system, educational system, reproductive rights, health care, quotas, affirmative action, workplace entrapment (sexual harassment), etc., etc.

Let the institutions self destruct. They provide nothing for us.

Ah, Wisdom. Thank you Mr Price for taking an unpopular stand. Many things seem alright in the begining, like fiat currency or illegal immigration, and end up being disasters. Sure, a few Gay soldiers who are competent wont ruin anything. But as you say, wait until the Culture of Gayness develops.

And one thing Mr Price didn’t mention: in time, straight men will be pressured to get into it, especially new recruits. Just like in prison? Yes, just like in prison. And yes, men will be raped. It has all happened before. It will all happen again. Mr Price is young in years but old in Spirit. Most don’t get it until it happens to them or someone they know.

Good info on the Afghans. Just one more thing that PC Culture has suppressed: how seriously Muslims take their homoeroticism. When Constantinople fells, the first thing the Sultan did was ask the Mayor for the “hand” of his famously handsome son Lucas Notares. The Mayor said no. He then asked the son – who also said no. He then tortured them to death.

But all men are united, we’re all Men, right? Gay, Straight, Black, White, same struggle, same fight. If we can’t get beyond this, we’re stillborn as a movement.

There’s a more subtle long-term problem here: recruiting heterosexual men will slowly but surely become *much* more difficult. As a result, women will make up a higher percentage of the military, along with all of the inefficiency they bring with them.

Think about the problems with the Catholic church.

Now think about how many Catholic priests are under 40 versus over 40. In the USA, many of the younger priests are foriegn nationals.

Most heterosexual young men do *not* want to join the oldest established religious order in Christianity in the West. The atmosphere is poisonously gay in most areas. The level of respect shown to priests is quite low compared to 50 years ago. Many parishes are being combined as the elderly churchgoers die off and few young people replace them or the priests that used to administer their flock.

Most fathers would think twice before they let their sons serve as altar boys. Given the scandals, it’s only prudent, even if it unfairly tarnishes many innocent priests with the stain of sin.

Now project the same trend forward by 20 years to the US military. It will be even worse there because most soldiers are under 30 years old. The turnover rate is much higher than for professions that can be practiced until retirement at age 65 or 70. Except for a tiny number of officers and specialists, most soldiers are forced to retire after 20 years by the sheer physical demands of the battlefield.

Will the typical recruitment pool for the USMC – macho young men, often minority members such as Hispanics and blacks – be eager to sign up if they think that gays are openly accepted? These are socially conservative groups that don’t share the far left’s open enthusiasm for all things homosexual.

Even most whites who sign up are from lower to middle class small towns with aboive-average religiosity. In short, the big swaths of “flyover country” that liberals look down on and that are colored deep Red on political maps becasue they are usually Republican.

Will the 18 year old kids who previously had roll call in a church basement for the Boy Scouts be eager to join a new troop of gays? I think not. Most young hetero men will tolerate gays but will avoid being in their presence, if practical.

This will remove the largest group of effective warriors from the recruiting pool. Some of them will be replaced by gay men, but gay men are a tiny minority of the available manpower (estimates range from 1-10%). Most of the slots that are no longer filled by heterosexual men will be filled by women.

THAT will impair the efficiency of the fighting force far more than anything else. The absence of straight men and the presence of women will be a 1-2 knockout punch to the US military.

Women are also just plain incapable of acting as infantry. Despite all efforts to change war, the infantry suffers around 90% of the casualties in a full-scale, WWII type of conflict. In the future, if women are filling most of the non-combat roles in the military and some of the combat ones too, any guy who signs up will go *straight* to the infantry. No more learning a skill on the Pentagon’s dime – the infantry will need every man it can get, and women will get the jobs that teach skills that transfer easily to civilian life, such as computers or piloting.

It will be just like in late 1944 and 1945, when the manpower shortages forced the US to call up the second and third rate draftees and send them straight to the front with little training. Except this time, they’ll ask men to *volunteer* to be cannon fodder while the cushy billets are filled by women. Good luck with that …

The vicious cycle of the deep feminization of the military has begun.

“Just one more thing that PC Culture has suppressed: how seriously Muslims take their homoeroticism.”

A friend of mine worked as a contractor in Iraq (outside the wire) for a couple of years. He was showing me pictures he took and I couldn’t help notice in most of the random shots of villages the men were usually holding hands. He said, “They’re lovers.” And that this is a common and accepted practice there. The saying is, “men are for fun and women are to make children”.

Even though homosexuality is a sin, the Mullahs have sort of a “don’t ask/don’t tell” policy. As long as a man has a wife and children and he provides for them, engaging in affairs with other men is perfectly acceptable. It’s an example of the openly duplicitious nature of the culture; which feminists and socons like to refer to as “oppressive to women”.

I suppose wide spread homosexuality among men would be oppressive to women, but then you won’t hear this part of it from our media.

I’m a man who served in the military and was in the U.S. Army, plus I am an Iraq War and Afghanistan War Veteran. There is a problem with rape in the military. Women have been raped by men. Men have been raped by other men quite often using ether to knock out the victim. This becomes more common in a war zone.

I once argued with another soldier about allowing openly gay soldiers to serve. I asked him will homosexuals and heterosexuals get seperate rooms to live in the way women and men do? Will homosexuals get their own lavatories(washrooms and toliets) along with seperate showers the way men and women do? If noone wants men and women to mix in these places, why would you expect homosexuals to respect heterosexuals? It’s asking for more sexual assault and rape of both men and women. I supported the don’t ask don’t tell policy because the big problem is that the military doesn’t know how to leave one’s private life alone on a whole host of things.

The military can screw you over for a lot of things. Not paying your bills is one of them. Adultry is another. Getting a cold weather or hot weather illness or injury even off duty is another. So is getting a DUI off installation, off duty and out of uniform. These things and more are punished by the military almost all the time. Fornication and producing bastards is not despite the prohibition on fornication by the UCMJ like the other military crimes I’ve listed. I’ll continue on another commentary.

I listed some of the ways the military can screw you over which would be considerably less likely than civilians employment. The military can also give you in worsening order a General, Other Than Honorable, Bad Conduct and Dishinorable discharge instead of an Honorable discharge which can ruin your employment prospects. Nothing can destroy you the way the military can for doing so little wrong not only in a war zone or a training accident, but in a criminal charge or even a mistake made or political screwjob games.

One of my friends in the U.S. Army who was a military brat with family serving and retiring out of the military including his own father told me that 90% of the women in the military are no good. They are drama queens and some of the worst sluts he’s ever seen in addition to rank climbing fraternizing “gold-diggers”. He was right, and I agreed with him before he said it. Fraternization between higher ranking men and lower ranking women is rampant in the military. It is to a lesser extent among women and men. The reason is because of fewer women in the military and more often HYPERGAMY.

Fraternization is having an inappropriate relationship between higher ranks and lesser ranks. One must keep their professional bearing in the miltary in order for it to run effectively. Appearance alone for many things to include fraternization can ruin careers and morale as well as discipline among the ranks. Anecadotally speaking, heterosexual fraternization is terrible with Gay fraternization being a little worse and lesbian fraternization being the worst of all. It’s a a feminist utopia, and a dystopia for everyone else especially for heterosexual males. It’s just what the man hating feminists ordered. I love my country and served. However, we are in terminal decline on this and many other things from which I seriously doubt we can recover until we are destroyed, and it truly pains me to say this. I hope I’m wrong, but it sure doesn’t look that way.

My friend in the Army told me he would rather deal with a less competant man than a less competent women because too many women are too full of drama. My friend would do this even if the man was only 75% competent and try to cover for him although ensure he never rose in rank. He though most women were less than 100% competent. He thought 90% of military women were more trouble than they were worth, and this was true of only 25%of the men. Again, I agreed. I told him that many of these morons(men and women) would have been fired for much less in the civilian world for being drama causing and not doing exactly as they are told. Some people are better protected than others in the military.

The military will decline further as our country declines further. We had a great nation once, but that is passing. People would rather live within the lie. Few want to live within goodness and the truth.

@ Avenger
You’re right, and I argued your position over 2 years ago against a soldier who thought homosexuals to serve openly in the military. I told him that it would be like putting a physically fit 42 year old woman naked in front of me, a 42 year old physically fit man(I’m 44 now), and I would lust after her. I told him I would lust after the woman more if you put a physically fir 20 year old woman in front of me. I told him if I was a twenty year old man again I would lust after a naked physically fit 42 year old woman more than that, and a naked physically fit 20 year old woman most of all. I told him I fail to see how homosexual men are any different except for they want men instead of women. Homosexual men and heterosexual men are men first and their sexual orientation second. Difficult as it is for morons to believe, there are homosexual men who are very masculine, aggressive and violent who are the pitchers or tops and not the feminine, passive and peaceful homosexuals who are the catchers or bottoms as the media and other fools would like to portray virtually all homosexuals. Masculine, aggressive and violent homosexuals are released from prison every day. They scare the feminine, passive and peaceful homosexuals. The only thing which lessens homosexuals lust is they have been raised naked and in front of naked people of their own sex in locker rooms and washrooms since very young children, and they become desensitized to some degree but never fully. The same would happen if boys and girls were allowed to be around eachother naked more, and I’m not suggesting they should. Homosexuals should scare you and I, the heterosexuals, in the military too because the military is often like being in prison, and in some ways can be worse. Prison guarantees 3 meals a day and a cot and the military does not.

Great to see the tone of this thread…..the last one that had to do with this issue almost made me delete the Spearhead from my favorites. It was very disheartening to see how many queer cheerleaders came out of the woodwork…….

But once again, I can’t be too hard on them, it has become very obvious that the vast majority of them are youngsters that have been massively propagandized and have been shamed into swallowing another PC lie. I have to admit that the thought police did their number on me to a certain degree when I was their age…..but then, like the majority of older, wiser posters here I got some solid doses of reality that brought the real world crashing in.

In the late 90s my “tolerant” persona found me with a good, non-effeminate gay friend and such a stand up guy that we actually shared an apartment for about a year and a half as we worked on a business project together. Such a stand up guy I thought. This was my first indepth experience with a homosexual apart from many work accquaintances over the years, most of whom I had no problems with, and this experience was a real eye-opener. It wasn’t long before I found this individual to be a pathological liar, thief, egotist, and master manipulator and had to throw him out of the project we were working on under threat of arrest. He of course, played the “gay victim card”…..but by the end I had his number and he got nowhere with that strategy.

He got away with a lot of corrupt/criminal activity for a short while before the boom was lowered, and when he was finally caught, I couldn’t help but reflect immediately on the whole experience. I realized that although he had several very pleasant and often smart and entertaining gay friends, just like he was, there wasn’t one that wasn’t caught up in some type or several types of corruption. On the surface, they all appeared to be having a “gay old time” (pardon the pun, but it was intended), but after looking a bit deeper, none of these people were worth a shit and seemed to be quite miserable. Their corruption ranged from stealing, (cronically) to over the top materialism, to “man-hopping”, slander, drug addiction, massive debt problems, and almost across the board, once you got to know them, they were some of the most vindictive, petty people I had ever known. But superfically, they were all very good actors as well.

“Not all gays are like that”…..I can hear it already…..and yes, that is true I’m sure, but subsquent experiences since this time have done nothing to negate the bad taste left in my mouth and my opinions formed from this experience in the 90s. In 2002 I found myself in Ft. Lauderdale, FL for work, and then again in 2005-2006. All I had known until living there was this was spring break capital, nothing more………damn…….they just happen to forget to mention that there are over 70,000 queers living there.

I worked with a majority gay staff and lived on the edge of the ghetto and the queer neighborhood. My expience was horrific. I can not think of one exception in behavior among the staff from my previous experience. I was subject to hearing about the most filthy, petty, deviant behavior on a daily basis, mixed in with large amounts of vindictive gossip, even coming from the GM on a regular basis of the property I worked at. Probably 90% of the staff fully embraced the “gay party lifestyle”….. and even if they had a “boyfriend” or “husband” it was still account after account of how fucked up they got night after night, whose dick they sucked, whose dick they wanted to suck…….and if I ever showed or voiced even slight dissapproval or revulsion at this behavior, I was immediately labeled a “homophobe”………

Everywhere I went in public, and this is no exaggeration, I was literally stalked by sodomites throughout Ft. Lauderdale. Don’t believe me? This problem is so prolific that it was featured in the nation media at the same time I was living there. It was covered in the national press as how they had to put time limit pay stall doors on the public restrooms in the parks that were timed to pop open after just a few minutes. This had to be done to discourage sodomy at all hours in these restrooms, which I saw with my own eyes was an epidemic.

Because of my experiences I began to read on the subject and what I found just floored me. A great book on the matter is “Homosexuality: A Freedom Too Far” written by Charles W. Socarides. He was a pyschoanalyst that treated gays for over 20 years, and as he says, not because he thought or wanted to “cure them”, but because there was such a huge demand for his services. They would come to him confessing time and time again how they were destroying themselves and had to change. He makes a rock solid case in the book that homosexual behavior is a very strong compulsion almost identical to many other addictions and that this manifests itself in a very destructive lifestyle. And remember, Socarides is a gay supporter. I learned from this book, and then other reading, that it is common for many gay men to have anonymous sex with many partners in one day, often between 5-10, and this had much to do with the rapid spread of AIDS in the 80s. I saw this behavoir in public in Ft. Lauderdale myself, and these people are so controlled by their compulsion that they will fuck anywhere, even under bushes in broad daylight as families walk by. I learned that drug addiction, alcoholism, DV and a host of other societal ills are much, much higher among homosexuals than in the non-queer p0pulation. We even had an accountant where I worked that would come in to work every couple of months with his face pulverised. The first time it happened I asked another girl that worked with him if he was alright, did he get jumped or something…..she laughed….no kidding……as though it were the long-running office joke, and said, “Oh, his man gets a little over aggressive sometimes……” And I’m telling you, he had the shit beaten out of him. And to his co-workers, this was a butt-fucking that just got a little rough.

Point being in this rant is that I have learned without a doubt that gay culture is fucked up to the core and what we are being told about it, what I bought as the truth, is nothing more than a slick marketing campaign to get us to swallow perversion. I have only just barely touched the truth of what I have learned over the years about the gay life-style. For more reading become familiar with “After the Ball”…..written in the late 80s by two very bright, educated, gay activists. This book is used as a sort of manifesto by the militant gay agenda movement (if you believe that is a mischaracterisation, you aren’t informed) as to how to achieve their agenda of “forcing” the public to accept their life style “against their own will”.

Gays aren’t to be hated and attacked, I think they are suffering, but equating their lifestyle with those of straights just isn’t reality in anyway. Well, better said, straights that live a healthy lifestyle. I don’t agree with perverse, over-sexualized straights either. So for you youngsters posting on here throwing around the “homophobe” label, let me set you straight. Gays are caught up in a super strong compulsion that they often feel powerless to, it controls them. When someone expresses non-approval at this destructive behavior, the gay projects his own state of self-terror at not being able to control his own destruction at the person that brings him out of his state of denial. There is no such thing as “homophobia”….it is another progessive label used to stop discussion. If you serve me a log of shit on a plate and I express distain for this practice, I am not scared of the shit. Phobia means “fear”. I am revulsed by it. I dont’ fear gays in any way……I find a culture that engages in the lifestyle you see on Folsom Street in San Fran to be filthy…..but of course, being that “hetro-hatred” does exist, I am not allowed to express those feelings without negative consequences.

I am certain that the glowing reviews from such posters as Boxer and Steve 85 about their “normal”, cool, gay friends at work or at the gym is really just an act…..anyone can come across “together” and “bitchin” over the water cooler at work or pumping some iron. Big fucking deal. And even if there are queers that do lead a very normal lifestyle, they just happen to like fag ass, it doesn’t mean that they are representative of the culture at large or we should be normalizing this destructive culture. Boxer uses the opinions of Plato as justification as to how good gay is. Well, Plato’s opinions could just be because he was another elite of millions that have lived that slipped into perversion as well. Just because the guy could philosphize doesn’t mean he was moral or that he could even manange anything. Frankly, Plato was a talker….nothing more……..All I read on Boxer’s link to Plato were his opinions…..nothing more….There was nothing there to substantiate that queers were seen as good and equal in their society at large or that embracing homosexuality as a mainstream option was good for Greek culture. Being that that culture collapsed……well…….draw your own conclusions……

But a final thought…..It recently occured to me with the last thread on this issue that the MRM, perhaps the Spearhead in particular, has attracted a lot of closet queers, or what I prefer to call sodomites, as opossed to openly gay men. They are petrified of their own cumplusion but can’t stop it, so they assume the roll of “MRA”….now they can be cool in admitting a revulsion to women publically without confessing they want to troll for fag ass as that would be too much for them. They also suddenly find themselves in the company of solely men who profess to find most women disagreeable as well so they are hoping for others like them amongst this new found mass to present opportunities to feed their addiction. In my extended time around queers I have found that there is a great thrill among them to sneak around and corrupt so called straights into their lifestyle or just get nasty with the sodomites that are pretending to live the straight lifestyle……….if you don’t know about this you don’t honestly know how queers think and operate. Just look at how many politicians and preachers that were supposedly straight have been caught mining for turds………I have heard it first hand on countless occasions from queers themselves as to how common this is.

@ Avenger

The fact is most in our society today are deeply hardened against rational argument and observation. Don’t let it get to you man. As Uncle Elmer and Keyster often refer to, they are employees at Encorpera where you just need to memorize thousands of PC sound bites, be somewhat articulate, and definitely stand for one of the “causes” of the day. One of the most recent, cutting edge, and avant garde issues is the MRM…..makes for great talk around the water cooler before everyone goes and gets a round of lattes.

Point is Avenger is that you are 100% correct, and one doesn’t even need to come close to referring to a WHO study, all one needs to do is turn on the TV or take a drive, perhaps even just look out the window. I have lived in a black dominated country and black majority neighborhoods in this country, and I can tell you sodomy is rampant amongst blacks as well as hispanics. It is becoming more so amongst whites as well as we fall into the same perverse cultures, but it has been engrained amongst the other groups for quite some time. Why would one walk around with their ass hanging out of their pants being surrounded only by other men, and aggressive men at that, as a large percentage of black youth do, even in prison, where there is rampant anal rape? It is a mating call, that is why, you don’t need to be a genius to figure that out. Prisons in the US are black and hispanic majority, anal rape is widely prevalent in all of them……don’t need to be a genius to figure that outeither.

“Oh no, men rape in prison because there is no pussy”……Fucking please…..this is just absurd. You can give me a 1000 years, I’m never mining turds or sucking dick, cause I could wack-off thinking about pussy for all that time if I was so desperate to get some. If I just want to get off, I could stick my unit in a warm jar of peanut butter……So why would I go for fag ass? Because I like it, that is why…….and a huge percentage of these ethnic groups are engaging in it for that reason.

And with all the contraband they bring into prision, especially the fact that there are now corrupt women guards, you want to tell me they can’t get pussy? Of course they can, they don’t like it……….they’ll hit it if its there, thinking about a fat boy’s asshole, but it isn’t their preference.

Why do mexican and black women run their men around like little bitches and there is such destain between the sexes? Forget the myth of “machismo” in Latin America, I know, I have lived there for years, it is bullshit. The men run around like little boys having kids all over the place, living with their mom until they are 30, while the women get to sit in the house, call the shots, talk shit to all the men and have the men bring them cash. The so called “machismo” is when finally the men, out of their massive incompetence and subjagation, can’t take it anymore, so they make huge public displays of getting more pussy or smacking their woman to show everyone they aren’t the little fags that they really are.

You see this between gays and women in this country…..the gays hate straight women with a passion cause they are seen as a threat as the gay man can never give a child or have the true femininity of a woman and he knows it. He will befriend a liberal, queer loving straight woman because she is corruptable to his ways and can be used to get to other men and goods, but the true conservative, traditional woman the gay absolutely despises. This is most of the reason for gay marriage and adoption…..they think if they can provide the same things that a traditional woman can to a man, they can take her place eventually.

And finally, I am reminded that in the book that I mentioned in my first post, “Homosexuality, A Freedom Too Far”, I learned that we have been deeply decieved about the spread of AIDS. I have since read several other sources confirming this. The author was working in psychoanalysis and was also an MD during the “gay agenda push” of the 70s and 80s, which was the age of the begining of the AIDS epidemic as well. He was present first hand at the conferences of professional health care providers and saw the legal tricks and propaganda that were implemented to make the public believe a reality that just wasn’t happening. One of the big concerns of the militant pro-gay activist movement was how to counter act the public’s revulsion of the AIDS epidemic throughout the gay community which couldn’t be denied. So they came up with a clever trick, and that was to exaggerate the rate of infection and amount of media coverage about those rates among non-gays to make it seem as though this disease was not exclusive to gays and gay practices. What the public doesn’t know is that in almost all cases of the spread of AIDS through sexual contact (not blood transfers or drug use) outside of the gay community was due to sodomites infecting women through anal sex after they had been sodomizing with gay men. The author, Socarides, also an MD I remind you, cites that the public propaganda of AIDS being easily transferred by bodily fluids other than blood just isn’t confirmed by scientific research. He basically states that it is only through such sexual practices as anal sex where tissues tear and blood is exchanged that AIDS is transfered. It can be transferred with other bodily fluids, but it is much, much less likely. I have even had that experience myself when asking for an AIDS test in Canada in 1994 at the request of my then girlfriend…..the doctor, much to my surpise, basically refused to do it (socialized medicine as well), as he said unless you have some kind of sympthoms, are queer, or use intravenous drugs, there was basically no chance that I could have AIDS, it was non-existent outside of those demographics. I was very surprized, cause at that time this is not what we were being told.

I state the info in the above paragraph because it is well established that Africa is the world capital of AIDS. The gay agenda won’t allow it to be known it the MSM, but this is because of their very high preference for sodomy between males that is then spread into females through sodomy as well. This practice has carried over to black populations the world over, and this is why they are content with fag ass in prision and think nothing of going back time and time again. Why not if you like fag ass? No better place to be than in an all male prison with others that like the same! It is also why they put up with domineering bitches that run them around, have their asses out of their pants, and just like Africa, have the highest AIDS rates in the world. Pure and simple. Once again, rocket scientist you don’t have to be……

This post of course will be screeched down as “RACIST!!!!” and “HOMOPHOBIC”…..and all the rest……as I said, the people of today are very hardened to rational observation and argument.