The decision by the Susan G. Komen Foundation to cut Planned Parenthood’s funding has caused a lot of shrieking from the feminists. The two female senators of my state (Washington) – both staunch feminists – weighed in with condemnation of the move. Feminists in Portland, Oregon are making vague threats and lots of noise. Local news has covered it more thoroughly than I expected, and one might think it’s a national crisis of sorts from all the attention it’s getting. All the hysteria did finally force Komen to reverse the decision, but it’s remarkable that it happened in the first place.
While I’m no fan of abortion, I’m not a fanatic right-to-lifer, and might even be inclined to tolerate Planned Parenthood for its clean, safe provision of birth control and sexual health exams for women (men have a stake in this, too, for obvious reasons). However, I’ve known a couple people who worked there, and it is part and parcel of the feminist movement, and has a hostile attitude toward men. In fact, the organization shouldn’t be called “Planned Parenthood,” but rather “Planned Motherhood;” there’s nothing about it that helps fathers at all.
But regardless of how men might feel about it, why would Susan G. Komen cut off Planned Parenthood? The reason the anti-breast cancer foundation gave was that Planned Parenthood is under investigation for using taxpayer money to provide abortions (probably true — since when have feminists turned down public funds?), but I think there was more to it than that. Breast cancer, although supposedly a feminist issue, is actually more of an older women’s issue. It’s true that breast cancer sometimes strikes younger women with tragic results, but the overwhelming majority of its victims are post-menopausal, the median age of onset being 61. Feminism, which is more concerned with leveraging female sexual power (including fertility) than anything else, is primarily a younger woman’s cause. Yes, there are plenty of older feminist fanatics out there, but the ordinary women who supported feminism politically in the 70s and 80s have largely aged out of it, and are no longer so enthusiastic about “right to choose” (i.e. right to exterminate one’s children) and other feminist causes.
I’ve seen this change happen first hand in some women I’m acquainted with. Prior to menopause, many women are blasé or enthusiastic about abortion, but after their own infertility is undeniable, they change their tune. Suddenly, children take on more importance. Not their own children, because they can’t have them any longer, but children in general, and grandchildren in particular. Now, they no longer have anything to fear from an “unplanned pregnancy,” but they do face the prospect of never having access to children ever again, and that is not a happy thought for normal women.
Given that the average age of a Susan G. Komen donor is probably somewhere north of 60, I’d be willing to bet that there is a lot of opposition to funding any organization dedicated largely to the extermination of potential grandchildren. A significant proportion of these older women, many of whom no doubt suffer from breast cancer themselves, want to at least have the opportunity to hold a baby again before the disease kills them, so funding Planned Parenthood creates a conflict of interest.
This is a terrible dilemma for Susan G. Komen, which has wilted under an overwhelming attack from the “save the whales, kill the children” faction on the left. However, the absolute freak-out we have witnessed over the last couple days coming from the feminist camp suggests that this move really scared them. They do not have absolute hegemony over women’s issues, and that’s got to be a frightening realization for them. Many of their former rank-and-file supporters, loyal troopers in decades past, are not so excited about the program any longer, and this rift will only grow.
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I just saw a report that due to political pressure the orginization has reversed its descision and issued a public apology.
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Funny how these slags kill children because for whatever reason their “not ready” to be mothers, yet castigate men who abandon their seeds.
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Yeah, I linked that lower in the article, maybe I should put the link earlier.
“Feminists in Portland, Oregon are making vague threats and lots of noise”.
— The feminists down here in Portland are often vegans who eat lots of beans so you can imagine the noises they make in public.
“one might think it’s a national crisis of sorts from all the attention it’s getting”
— It is the feminists and their value system that has the most influence with the mass media agenda so it probably is some sort of national crisis to those two borgs.
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Should we call them pussies, or is that redundant?
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Thanks for covering this Bill. Witnessing the hysterics over it speaks to our Polarized/Gynocratic times.
The congressional investigation is not just about appropriation of government funding towards abortion, it’s about their overall spending practices. It’s investigating millions that have gone missing; unaccounted for. Of course Democrats/Feminists are positioning this as a “war against women’s health” for political expediency.
If they don’t spend Federal Funding on abortion, than where is all that money going? Pap smears, pelvic exams, birth control pills and “reproductive counseling”? If abortion procedures stopped at all Planned Parenthoods tomorrow, they’d be a shell of what they are. It’s a surgical prodedure and it’s BIG money.
Enter the Susan G. Komen foundation (kind of the NOW of the Pink Industry, the “Mothership”). They’ve decided to defund Planned Parenthood by $640K, a mere drop in the bucket compared the the 10′s of millions that Komen takes in every year. It’s not as if Planned Parenthood has a special “bucket” of funds called “money for breast exams only”. All the funding goes into one large pot that’s dispersed nationally based on each individual PP’s budgetary funding request. And one other thing, Planned Parenthood doesn’t even perform mamograms, they refer them out for kick-backs. Did the news reports state that? Of course not.
The dirty little secret is that Planned Parenthood is a corrupt federally funded “charitable” institution that employs thousands of feminists, under the guise of “women’s health needs”, while discriminating against mens’s health needs. This assumes “pregnancy” is a health “need” that requires a “cure”. Your tax dollars go directly to women’s health (babies are a “health” problem), NOT to men’s health. Impoverished men are on their own, expendable.
But the other part of this is that by extension Komen, and the Pink Industry in general is ALSO a corrupt charitable organization that employs thousands of women as well, many of them strident feminists. Pink is BIG, BIG money. It’s a multi-million dollar industry. Where does all that money go? Do we really want the Congressional investigation of PP to end up at Komen’s back door? Didn’t think so. Association is a bitch when you follow the money.
At any rate it’s interesting to watch the collective Cat Fight ensue. Note men are staying out of it, (except of course Mangina of NYC Bloomberg). Let women run the world, and see what happens.
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While this does not link breast cancer with abortion, it links lily-white breast cancer survivors with women who may not have undergone treatment for breast cancer and a lack of cultural sensitivity one would not expect from family of someone fixated on geography.
My mother has had breast cancer three times and expects me to go to bat for a supermajority-female cause because males have a tiny possibility of getting this cancer. Don’t expect the bitch to go to bat for prostate cancer, penile cancer or testicular cancer any time soon. Don’t expect her to go to bat for the almost entirely male hemophiliac community any time soon either, even though this is a congenital hereditary condition.
In regards to a lack of cultural sensitivity, my mother would not like to end up with a hypothetical daughter-in-law from a West African country like Senegal or Mali who tugs on her intact breasts to make them extra saggy, or even a hypothetical daughter-in-law from Cameroon who underwent a practice translated into English as “breast ironing”.
I think my mother, who has had tissue removed, may have some nasty jealousy issues with women with intact breasts, even severely underprivileged third-world women, who have not had this cancer. One of the best tactics of the men’s rights’ movements is to drive every wedge possible between women from divergent walks of life.
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“I just saw a report that due to political pressure the orginization has reversed its descision and issued a public apology.”
Women don’t have a voice in society.
No one allows them to be heard, no one listens when they speak.
Their crys of discrimination go unanswered by a misogynist/patriarchal culture. Their health needs are ignored by government. They’re an oppressed under-class that has no justice or redress of grievances. Their (1 in 4) rapists go free, their male partners assault them with impunity, they work for less pay and they die everyday from lack of adaquate health care.
When oh when, will we find compassion in our hearts for women?
There just doesn’t seem to be any hope for them to become equal.
Where is the humanity for our women and girls?
I certianly don’t see politicans or the news media being on their side whatsoever. It’s always “men this, and boys that”. Until society is completely subserviant to women and grrls and their needs, (while ignoring men and boys), Feminists still have work to do!
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@Keyster,
I don’t understand how women can’t see they are a privileged class. It is obvious they get anything they want, usually at the expense of men. Are women that ignorant, or are they aware of how much they are leeching off men?
Your posts are well-articulated, so I look forward to your response.
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This is the organization that puts pressure on food companies to put pink ribbons on female-favored food products such as health cereals (Special K) and yogurt (Dannon). IIRC, they even got the NFL to put pink ribbbons on helmets to “fight breast cancer”. They get a tiny fraction of sales as “charity” and the companies get a break from feminist harassment.
Pink is also a metaphor for socialism, i.e. not quite Red (Communist) but leaning that way, so it is a visual double entendre for the cognoscenti. “Dirty pinko” was a slur against Communist sympathizers during the darker days of the Cold War. Now major corporations use the politically coded color to sell yogurt.
Slick marketing ploy – they sell socialism under the pretext of fighting cancer. Our feminist enemies are clever, although not wise.
Meanwhile, men can’t buy food or watch football without seeing feminist/socialist gang colors everywhere. Male space gets invaded and nobody dares to push back to get rid of the pinkos.
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Buckaroobanzai February 3, 2012 at 09:53
I just saw a report that due to political pressure the orginization has reversed its descision and issued a public apology.
They did so because of feminist pressure. They know what side their bread is buttered on. Moldy bread and spoiled butter.
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About 240,000 new cases of breast cancer are diagnosed in the USA each year, but only about 40,000 deaths per year. This means that far more women die WITH breast cancer than FROM breast cancer (Sound familar? This is what is often said about prostate cancer). As Bill stated, it mostly affects old, infertile women. Only about 15% of cases are linked to family history, the other 85% likely being due to lifestyle choices of the woman (such as whether or not she nursed children back when she was still fertile). So, a woman’s choice to have an abortion, to forego having children and hence nursing, may become a contributing factor to her developing breast cancer. If Big Pink was serious about women’s health and breast cancer, it would not be funding abortions.
Another thing- a bit less than 1% of new breast cancer cases are diagnosed in men, while men comprise a bit more than 1% of breast cancer deaths. Long story short- a man diagnosed with breast cancer is about twice as likely to die from it than a similarly situated woman. Please bring this issue up the next time some woman solicits donations for Big Pink. Why should a men donate to Big Pink when it underserves men with breast cancer?
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There is a middle eastern saying. “Women want fried ice”.
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I am amazed that they would cut Planned Parenthood funding. Usually, feminist funding is the very *last* thing that will get cut. Nothing else is more sacred.
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“they get anything they want, usually at the expense of men. Are women that ignorant,”
No
“or are they aware of how much they are leeching off men?”
Yes.
But it’s their right, you know.
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@HereIsAManWhoStoodUp
The interesting thing is that women know very well they have privileges, they’re just able to put it aside in their minds.
Watch the reality show Flavor of Love sometime and you’ll witness how women can convince even themselves they’re “in love” when in reality they’re just looking for someone to take care of them and give them things. They realize this at the same time but they’re still somehow able to convince themselves their intentions are pure. They deny the truth even to themselves. All humans are capable of this, but I think women are especially adept.
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Question:
If feminism was REALLY about ‘reproductive rights’ why don’t we see any clamor for public spending on say; fertility clinics, or subsidies to stay-at-home-moms and homeschoolers? It’s always about abortion and other things that cut the men out of the picture.
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I’ve heard the name Susan G Komen mentioned frequently in the past week. I assumed that the loud shrieking meant that she or it had actually done something opposed to Feminism or abortion.
So now I find out that their “crime” in Feminists’ eyes is that up till now they had funded Planned Parenthood and they stopped.
That’s Feminism for you. No gratitude, just hysterical shrieking condemnation. I would say “remind me never to do anything for Feminists”, but I don’t actually need reminding. It’s something I learned a long time ago.
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This is Entitlement complex 101. It’s a charity! They don’t owe you shit.
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Ironically that women are basically saying in the Article that Welmer linked that Komen broke the American rule, “Innocent until proven guilty”. (:snicker) The same people who automatically declare men guilty of rape on accusations using “innocent until proven guilty”. :rolleyes:
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I’m a big sports fan, especially football, and though there are many things that bother me about the current state of the NFL with regards the continued attempts to feminize the sport, nothing bugged me more than the idiotic “pinking” of the players.
Shouldn’t NFL players, all men incidentally, if they are to wear anything besides team colors, don purple for prostate cancer rather than the ridiculous pink?
What is wrong with us? I am so sick of all this crap. The destruction of one half of us will not end well for the other half. These man-hating beasts will be the death of us all.
Feminism and its politcal institution Planned Parenthood is a culture of death and destruction, nothing more, nothing less.
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A few months ago I drafted a Spearhead essay about the Komen foundation, which focused on Norman E. Brinker, the visionary restaraunteur who pioneered such innovations as casual fine dining and the serve-yourself-salad bar. Norm’s sister-in-law was Susan G. Komen, who died of breast cancer at the age of 38. Norm established the Komen fund in her honor with his wife Nancy Brinker as the CEO.
In all this fuss not a word about Norm Brinker. If you go to the Komen website there is no mention of him.
I will have to pull it up an resubmit.
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@Deborah: “Shouldn’t NFL players, all men incidentally, if they are to wear anything besides team colors, don purple for prostate cancer rather than the ridiculous pink?”
Umm. It’s blue ribbons for prostate cancer. Purple ribbons are for lots of things, from ADD to Fibromyalgia, to Lupus, to Xenophophia, but not, as far as I know, for prostate cancer. At least you didn’t call it prostrate cancer.
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JeremiahMRA said:
>>They realize this at the same time but they’re still somehow able to convince themselves their intentions are pure. They deny the truth even to themselves. All humans are capable of this, but I think women are especially adept.
Once you are entitled, you are also free to abuse the power in any way and expect to be praised for it in return. I’ve recently observed first hand how a woman can arbitrarily assign any given meaning to an event, ignoring all context/history/reason. It’s about her ‘feeling’, and most certainly not yours. She must be right since she convinced herself. That’s how feelings work when substituted for logic. The western world would be a far better place if the average woman in it were actually able to face the unvarnished truth about her own perceptions and ensuing actions.
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“Umm. It’s blue ribbons for prostate cancer.”
Paradoxotaur,
Forgive my ignorance. I didn’t even know that there was a ribbon for prostate cancer, nor that it is blue! Of course, we all know why I haven’t heard about it, don’t we? I wonder how many of the NFL “pinkies” know about the blue ribbon. Pretty sad.
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Forget prostate cancer and look at the statistics for heart disease. Men are way ahead of females in mortality and in fact it’s not until about the age of 75 that it’s somewhat equal (men still die of higher rates even here)
Besides, by this age most men are dead.
Mortality in men is mostly due to year after year of stress and working too much.
Hot debate. What do you think?
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Is it still a draft?
My Facebook page has been *deluged* with anti-Komen foundation propaganda these past few days….it’s a nuisance. The first letter from the Komen Foundation said that it was reducing funding, not cutting it, and that the info going round the net was inaccurate, but the lying, hysyerical angry hordes drowned them out. ‘They’re doing this because they just got a right-winger on the board’ ‘They’re cutting all funding, so never donate to them again’. How I wish the Komen Foundation (whatever you think of them) had stood up to the mob! They were blackmailed, and buckled. Bad move.
Donations are a gift. You don’t demand a gift. The Komen Foundation, or any charity, or any individual for that matter, gets to decide where their money goes.
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I just Re-posted the draft of WWNEBD?
You can hit the “submit” button after you have received your fix of upvotes on this current essay.
I want to state emphatically my essay is about the Susan G. Komen foundation and not about Elmer frolicking through many whorehouses.
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I like this, it like children whom are enjoying toys, you take the toys from them and they start crying like children they are, so you to keep the brats children quiet just give the toys back.
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in Seattle:
‘Gun Distributor, Komen Foundation Team Up To Sell Pink Handgun’
“…to help raise money for the breast cancer organization.”
http://seattle.cbslocal.com/2012/02/03/gun-distributor-komen-foundation-team-up-to-sell-pink-handgun/
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I agree Price. Women know they should stick together for the group but, as women put it, the world is defined as her and her alone….not children…not husband….certainly not political allies.
If it means they die less and younger women can’t get abortions….how do you think the Hitlary Clintons of this world will vote?
Wait until pension time and young women are forced to pay back those student loand of off to jail for them…..foced labor.
Wait for that, because feminists in their greed have eroded the protections in place for this degree of tyranny to return.
Think it can’t happen…..can you believe we have debtors prison? 40 something house frau’s going on sex tourist vacations on the ex husbands dime?
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The question I want answered is: why would the charitable Komen Foundation donate funds to another charitable foundation, particularly Planned Parenthood, in the first place? If a donor to Komen wanted to support Planned Parenthood, they could easily send part of their Komen donation directly to PP instead. If I were a Komen supporter, I’d be pissed my donation was being diverted outside my knowledge.
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@Manwhostoodup
“I don’t understand how women can’t see they are a privileged class. It is obvious they get anything they want, usually at the expense of men. Are women that ignorant, or are they aware of how much they are leeching off men?”
How women as a group perceive themselves is not the issue, but rather how our CULTURE does. There is an engrained conscience that they’re weak (but strong), stupid (but smart), independent (but dependent). This conscience is endorsed and supported by more men than women. Convince the MEN; our leaders, our billionaires, our media moguls, our friends and neighbors…that women are no longer the precious, exalted, victimized sex; that they’re EQUAL to us, and we will no longer
live in a world of lies and deceit.
Knock her down from the pedestal men keep her on, and all will be revealed. Feminism is superfluous to the White-Knight.
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@Deborah
The NFL is corrupt anyway. The referees ensured a Detroit loss in the playoffs with ghost penalty calls. Apparently the NFL wouldn’t get as much $$ if Detroit kept playing. I have become rather disinterested inthe NFL since I learned of this corruption.
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“Once you are entitled, you are also free to abuse the power in any way and expect to be praised for it in return.”
An excellent article on this topic: http://dalrock.wordpress.com/2012/01/24/the-gift-transformed-into-a-debt/
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“save the whales, kill the children”
Man, that is brilliant pc irony.
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“The question I want answered is: why would the charitable Komen Foundation donate funds to another charitable foundation, particularly Planned Parenthood, in the first place?”
The monolithic plethora of Woman, Inc. 501C3′s is a multi-billion dollar industry (where do you think all those “gender studies” graduates end up?). It’s a staggering and very complex network of female only “charities” that extort and rake in BIG MONEY every year, from our government, our corporations and individual donators. They don’t just employ feminist lawyers and PR experts, they employ very slick accountants too.
The “executives” decide how it’s spent and who to spend it on. The irony here is that the brilliant female leadership of the Komen Foundation had no idea feminists could be so angry, militant and all powerful. They could have asked us, we would have told ‘em.
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“because males have a tiny possibility of getting this cancer. ”
….and they are denied coverage because they are men..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/08/raymond-johnson-breast-cancer-man_n_921016.html
more reasons to not go there.
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“Your tax dollars go directly to women’s health (babies are a “health” problem), NOT to men’s health. Impoverished men are on their own, expendable.”
1. Learn the tax shystem. Its not that hard, keep it simple and stick to the basics, ie reduce REPORTABLE income and maximise REPORTABLE deductions, eg. claim a portion of your rent (20% min) as a home office/business deduction, depreciate anything and everything even relotely connected to income AND keep income, deductions and refunds below thresholds that generate audits, AND aggregate, meaning net off a bunch of income and deductions and only enter one item into the return, which will virtually eliminate an audit (audits are computer generated, so keep the return simple).
2. Get your tax bill down (it can be reduced to less than a few grand pa, which will barely cover the individuals draw-down on the tax coffers)
3. get acquanited with the cash economy
4. get self reliant and at least some off-the-grid stuff into your life
5. stay single, dont spawn and…
most importantly,
6. GYOW.
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Want to stop breast cancer ladies? well, look around the planet…
where women are free from getting these kind of illness like cancer and diabetes?
-How is their live style?
-what do they eat?
-what is the average age to have babies?
-what is the rate of abortions?
Well amerogirl, western women and feminist in general YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG.
Note to self: How the fuck women live longer than men in middle east and Africa and almost never get this kind of illness if they are so oppressed and dominated.
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Damn right, MRA. Isn’t funny the western hubris about being so advanced and healthy when we die from diseases that were extremely rare in the past and half the American population is obese? Lol.
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Off topic, but interesting-
Tonight on prime time TV, Geraldo Rivera announced his solution to the financial burden put on taxpayers by the great number of poor children born out of wedlock. It’s called (oddly enough) “Geraldo’s Law”.
It seems Geraldo feels that if the law (his law) requires that a father’s name be placed on the birth certificate EVERY child born in the USA the problem will be solved.
During the male demonizing orgy with Bill O’Rielly the playboy lawyer stated, and I quote, “pull up your pants and be a man”.
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JeremiahMRA,
Yes, the NFL is not what it used to be. I heard about the Detroit rumor and after watching that game it would be hard to dispute. I’ve been hanging in there only due to my love of athlectics. Watching Calvin catch a pass is just too good for me to pass up, but I do find I have to avert my gaze for a lot of the other bullshit.
As it seems with many institutions in this country, the NFL too, will be the agents of their own demise.
There are far too many people in this country now that hate truth, beauty and excellence and have dedicated themselves to their destruction.
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@Mickey T February 3, 2012 at 17:51
Tonight on prime time TV, Geraldo Rivera announced his solution to the financial burden put on taxpayers by the great number of poor children born out of wedlock. It’s called (oddly enough) “Geraldo’s Law”.
It seems Geraldo feels that if the law (his law) requires that a father’s name be placed on the birth certificate EVERY child born in the USA the problem will be solved.
During the male demonizing orgy with Bill O’Rielly the playboy lawyer stated, and I quote, “pull up your pants and be a man”.
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I also saw this exchange. Note that both the conservative (O’Reilly) and the liberal (Rivera) pretty much agreed on the point, but neither mentioned any provisions for ensuring that the names women put on their birth certificates are accurate. Yet another issue where the liberals are our enemies and the conservatives are not our friends.
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Just a curiosity question, nothing more. But, I wonder if Geraldo understands the concept of friendly fire?
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If he advocates every baby have a mandatory DNA paternity test, it might be a good idea. Somehow I suspect loser Geraldo does not have that in mind. Whoever Cupcake names, that is the name that goes on.
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An even better way to reduce costs of unwed mothers is to grant automatic custody to any father who has no serious abuse record, and is capable of supporting the kid without welfare or child support payments.
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Planned Genocide
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Off-topic, but…
http://news.yahoo.com/court-allows-man-seek-money-daughters-biological-dad-184320957–abc-news.html
Conn Supreme Court rules… guy who fathered kid with wife another guy who thought he was father for 15 years has to pay $$$.
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interesting social observation about older women changing their mind about abortion and children after menopause
why back when, the ancients sacrificed their children to gain wealth and the favor of false gods. fast forward to today and women are still doing the same thing for the same reason
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People without children should never get to make laws about children.
But this is about population control more than anything else. If you want to adopt a child and it takes months and months of stupid paperwork and costs thousands. If you want to kill a baby and it’s done in moments and paid for by taxes.
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@ stonelifter
It’s because we’re animals that think we’re gods, we even say we are created in his image.
But women have come to take this belief seriously.
If god is upset, who can say she’s wrong…..this is the heart of feminist judicial theory.
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Anonymous
Notice that the mother who committed the paternity fraud has NO responsibility at all to repay anything at all and faces no criminal charges.
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And don’t forget breast cancer screening does not, I’ll repeat that does not, reduce the death rates from breast cancer.
In some individual women it saves their lives but most come with tumors too large, they are found by the patient.
So, overall mamography does not improve the average survival of breast cancer patients in the U.S.
The U.S. gov set up an advisory committee on screening tests who found this finding and …..of course when they were about to release it the feminist political machine closed them down.
Here’s their summary and the abstract is a lie, it says that mammogram reduces death rate, but if you read the entire article, in the discussion with see this:
“In absolute terms, the mortality benefit of mammography screening is small enough that biases in the trials could erase or create it.”
Now I’m no scientist, wait, yes I am…..they are saying that there is a benefit that is so small as to be not statistically valid, or…..in scienceese: The proved the null hypothesis, no over all benefit from breast cancer.
http://annals.ba0.biz/content/137/5_Part_1/347.full
How do I know about the political shennangans, the authors wrote articles about is.
But a few years later, when they found that PSA also doesn’t decrease overall prostate cancer survival but for individual patients it is a life saver, the same gov group released the recommendation to not do PSA.
Quotoes:
- Prostate cancer is the most common nonskin cancer and the second leading cause of cancer death in men in the United States.
- In men younger than age 75 years, the USPSTF found inadequate evidence to determine whether treatment for prostate cancer detected by screening improves health outcomes compared with treatment after clinical detection.
In othe words…..no definite decrease in mortality, same as breast.
In the article I read, the scientist on this panel were shocked at how they were bullied to change their report by feminist pressure groups.
On the prostate one they asked for comments, I posted it here at the time. So they are taking internet activistic comments.
http://www.uspreventiveservicestaskforce.org/uspstf08/prostate/prostaters.htm
This affects what doctors ask you in their offices and how insurance pays for this.
Breast Cancer Screening: 9 billion
PSA screening: 2 billion
IMO, one life saved by these methods in a country that spends 2 billion on candy on valentines day makes it worthwile.
The MRM needs a political arm just for health care because it’s now a political foot ball and feminist want to control the truth.
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But something I have wanted to post here for a long time.
An article should be done on what is happening to young men with the sexual abuser registry.
The graph of ages shows that the mode is only 14. These boys will be a permanent underclass……just like the feminists want.
This is heat breaking, look at the chart on the bottom.
http://freestudents.blogspot.com/2009/09/there-is-fury-and-and-sadness-inside.html
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@Micky T: “It seems Geraldo feels that if the law (his law) requires that a father’s name be placed on the birth certificate EVERY child born in the USA the problem will be solved.”
Wouldn’t it be funny if women started putting “Geraldo Rivero” down as the father on birth certificates? After all, he’s got lots of money, and there’s a reasonable statistical probability that, eventually, he’d be on the hook for child support. It’d be like winning the lottery, and she doesn’t even need to buy a ticket!
Has Geraldo never seen any of Maury Povich’s paternity test shows? One women (Shaniqua or some such name) was still striking out after DNA testing had been done on 13 different men (including her husband), each being negative. Imagine- for the brief time she was fertile she had unprotected sex with over 13 men, none of whom fathered her child- and at this point she was freaking out, as she was out of names of men to test. Apparently, she doesn’t hold the record.
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We came, we conquered, we civilized.
We then became the uncivilized.
But we wouldn’t practice the cruel, morbid and barbaric act of sacrificing humans to please the Gods.
We do it to please the Godesses.
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“Nemo February 3, 2012 at 11:36
This is the organization that puts pressure on food companies to put pink ribbons on female-favored food products such as health cereals (Special K) and yogurt (Dannon). ”
Last year, they got bulk boxes of Lays/Ruffles/Cheetos/Munchies coated in pink. The very thing that CAUSES prostate cancer is used to raise money for the Pinks.
It’s been a busy year for them, and everyone at my place of work was encouraged to donate a dollar for the privilege of wearing pink to raise Awareness. Even my own mother (whose mother survived breast cancer and is at high risk herself) finds these practices suspicious, though her main response was, “Well heart disease kills more women…”
And now there’s The Heart Truth, which funds research solely for women’s heart disease, and we were all encouraged to wear red (no donation required this time) for more Awareness. I wore green. Nobody noticed. Even they can see the breast cancer gravy train coming to an end, but heart disease will likely remain THE NUMBER ONE KILLER until immortality is perfected.
Somebody (probably a kid) tagged the poster for Awareness with “and men” after every instance of the word “women.” that was cute.
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@Anonymous wrote:
“Off-topic, but…
http://news.yahoo.com/court-allows-man-seek-money-daughters-biological-dad-184320957–abc-news.html
Conn Supreme Court rules… guy who fathered kid with wife another guy who thought he was father for 15 years has to pay $$$.”
Hold on to the champagne: According to the linked article:
“This week, the seven Connecticut Supreme Court justices unanimously overturned the ruling, saying that there was no evidence that Fisher’s lawsuit would be of financial detriment to the younger daughter, a legal technicality that helped overturn the original decision.”
So, in essence, are they saying, ‘if the duped dad is the richer of the two, he has no recourse in event of paternity fraud. It is all about who’s got fatter wallet!’. Aren’t they?
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“But I wonder Geraldo understands the concept of friendly fire.”
Sure, he does. But, his friends are women.
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Planned parenthood needs a thorough douching. They are using state and federal dollars to discriminate against hetero-sexuals.
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Planned parenthood is the new meeting place and rallying point of the American Gender-Raunch community as a whole.
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“RE: 18:30
“But I wonder Geraldo understands the concept of friendly fire.”
Sure, he does. But, his friends are women.”
Geraldo is a hopeless and hapless blow hard, (with 4 daughters). Juxtapose this with O’Reilly’s earlier sanctamonious finger wagging at PP for supporting abortion, and the problem is revealed.
Do we want young women to stop “choosing” abortion, or do we want fathers to be on every birth certificate by law? Either way you’re “disempowering” women.
Holding the father financially responsible is just as much a woman’s choice, as bringing the birth to term in the first place. We hold the continuation of the human race soley in our female’s hands. She controls motherhood AND fatherhood, to the extent fatherhood exists at all.
Can we trust the female half of our species with that much responsibility? Witness how it’s been working out so far.
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The United States: Second Most Incarcerated State in History & First Country To Report More Male Rape Victims Than Female
Details in seventh paragraph down
http://nplusonemag.com/raise-the-crime-rate
Stacy Herbert Summary: Guards in US prisons tell prisoners to “fight or fuck.” There were 216,000 prison rape victims last year, which means that most rapes in 2011 would have happened to men. I don’t know why lawyers for the likes of Gary McKinnon, for example, don’t argue against extradition on these grounds. RAPE COMES WITH ANY PRISON SENTENCE IN AMERICA. Surely, the European Human Rights Court would reject such a sentence for the alleged crime of hacking?
And still some idiots still think by voting for the republicans or democrats will change the above. Then again, it is usually the same naive fools that believe in domination and war,,, that is, as long as it is not them on the recieving end or in prison !
The United States: Second Most Incarcerated State in History & First Country To Report More Male Rape Victims Than Female and you want to discuss cuts in planned parenthood funding ????? You are a what ? An MRA ? Really ?
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Btw, unrelated to the article- a warning if you’re trying to register with MGTOW Forums. I registered, they accepted me then & when I went to to the introductions I started a thread asking if it was a British forum (because it appears to be) & that I was in the U.S. – then instantly this is the message I got back (copy & pasted)
“You have been banned for the following reason:
Fuck off Troll
Date the ban will be lifted: Never”
These wackjobs are either psychotic or completely Anti-American. I’ve been an MRA since the early 90s before there even was such a thing.
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Regardless of where you stand on this particular issue, a broader view is in order.
This is a private charity. They can fund, or not, an organization or body of work, as they see fit, solely in their own discretion.
If they have a rule that if an org they fund is under investigation does no longer qualify, it is their right (even though I disagree with “under investigation” and prefer findings first, personally, in a broad sense)
Now, for anyone, including my congresscritter Sen Patty Tennisshoes Murray, to chase them down the street, like a common panhandler, saying gimme more money, you gave me money yesterday, is abhorrent.
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Reality
I suspect they think Reality is one and the same as Mr Reality ? Possibly the same ISP number ? That, I am sure, is the reason why they have sent you the message ” Feck off Troll”. Nothing to do with you being in America or American. At least they are direct and didn’t leave you in any doubt.
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“This is a private charity. They can fund, or not, an organization or body of work, as they see fit, solely in their own discretion.”
Abortion is THE #1 issue for Feminism, Inc.
If you even hint at oppossing it in any way, the Feminist Machine goes to work, using a sympathetic news media for a bull horn. They shriek about “women’s health” and “anti-woman” from the mountian tops and they are heard loud and clear. DO NOT mess with Feminist, Inc. They’re essentially organized extortionists and ideological bullies.
That Komen didn’t understand this is what’s astounding; that even their own organization is infiltrated with active pro-abortion militants.
National Organization for Women president Terry O’Neill says, “Komen has gone from being a women’s health charity to becoming anti-woman.” Abortion Rights or saving women from dying from breast cancer? Feminists will decide.
Ironically PP’s operating budget is over $1 Billion per year (heaven forbid they should lose $640K of it from Komen!). The Pink Industry is over $100 Million a year, (with Komen alone taking in about $40 Million of it). Their biggest challenge? OVER funding! There simply aren’t enough ways and places to spend that much on breast cancer research and prevention every year. 20% of Komen contributions go to “adminstrative costs” and marketing. That’s $8 Million a year that goes to “feed the machine”. Planned Parenthood is 10 times bigger and far worse.
Woman, Inc. is BIG BUSINESS!
If it were a publicly traded corporation it would be a Fortune 100 company. If it spontaneously collpased, it would register in the national employment numbers by at least a few tenths.
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“Reality February 4, 2012 at 09:12
” Btw, unrelated to the article- a warning if you’re trying to register with MGTOW Forums.”
They’re on record here as claiming to know whether a poster was female or not.
I wondered how that would work out.
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I’m a Libertarian. Unlike Ron Paul who puts the non-aggression principle / duty to protect the unborn first, I am pro-choice by extension of the following principle:
“Bodily Sovereignty. No agency, State or otherwise, shall have the power to impose or deny any procedure medical or otherwise on or inside any human’s body.”
i.e. You are the Supreme Dictator of Your Body, yes that = life and death power over other humans inside your body, be they unborn in the womb or an ectopic twin in the abdomen (latter rare phenomenon happens to men too).
By the same principal you have the right to refuse injections of vaccines, RFID tracking chips etc.
Anything else takes us down the path of State interference in your own body, which can get very dark indeed.
That said, I reserve the right to judge the character of someone who chooses to abort. My attitude to that depends a good deal on the stage of unborn development (inside the first two months the fetus is still pretty primitive, and has a limited capacity for suffering, for instance) and also the whys. Some women suffer constant hemmorage with pregnancy = likely death for mother & baby. Abortion in that case = self defence IMO.
All that said:
That feminist groups are having to expend time, effort and money having to re-fight GOP politicos (in the US) for funding / rights to abortion takes away from feminist orgs ability to push the envelope of misandry further. An old front that the likes of NOW thought long pacified has re-opened. Tactically this is favourable for the MRM, in the sense that what distracts and divides the forces against us, is useful.
Re: this particular charity kerfuffle, I think the analysis of competition between what older, infertile women want vs. what younger fertile women want is bang on the money.
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p.s. I’d still support Ron Paul if I were aUS cit.
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“Ironically PP’s operating budget is over $1 Billion per year (heaven forbid they should lose $640K of it from Komen!). The Pink Industry is over $100 Million a year, (with Komen alone taking in about $40 Million of it). Their biggest challenge? OVER funding! There simply aren’t enough ways and places to spend that much on breast cancer research and prevention every year. 20% of Komen contributions go to “adminstrative costs” and marketing. That’s $8 Million a year that goes to “feed the machine”. Planned Parenthood is 10 times bigger and far worse.”
Simple answer is to position oneself to milk the milkers. Most, if not all, of that money filters its way into consumption, eventually. Simple answer for men is to set up ways to make that buck stop with you. Its not really that difficult. One can simply buy shares in companies that cater to consumption, particularly wimminz consumption, and pocket the dividends and capital gains. Otherwise, get into sectors that favour male employment and ownership, whilst selling goods/services to wimminz. Egs. anything involving construction, trades, skilled labouring, muscle, mechanics, engineering, tech based scientific innovation. And charge like a wounded bull ($125 for the first 45mins and $80 hr or any part thereof after that) for a call-out to change a light bulb or tap washer or unblock a drain or change an oil filter.
Whilst, most importantly…
Not putting oneself in the personal position of being bilked by you know who.
GYOW.
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If women’s health is so bad- why do they outlive men on average by about 6-7 years?
Let them both collapse!
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Here is a good YouTube video I found about misandry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZAuqkqxk9A&feature=g-vrec&context=G23fe334RVAAAAAAAABw
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Avoid giving money to the United Way.
If you want to be charitable, buy the old man down the street some groceries or show up to a Boy Scout meeting and hand the scout master a check. You will get alot more gratitude and avoid funding Feminism.
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“I don’t give a fig who gets raped in prison. Don’t go to prison, you won’t get raped. Problem solved.”
How come you’re so sure you won’t go to prison? Are you female, perhaps?
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Where is the MRM’s “media rapid taskforce”?
Where are our spokesmen?
Who is appearing on-air to oppose Femthink?
Who is educating the masses about men’s issues?
This is what has held the men’s movement back, forever: cluelessness about media!
Women’s groups have an army of spokespeople. Men’s groups have no one. We grouse among ourselve, but so what? Even guys with some profile, like Warren Farrell, pretty much avoid speaking out at such times.
It kills us, keeping our issues invisible.
Men articulating male issues nationally would validate our views. And offer hope to men who think no one knows their suffering. And attract folks who’d donate time and/or money. And grow the movement.
But no. We don’t do that.
So it’ll probably take another 30 years.
Enough men representing ONE group would have to speak enough. That would get the group better known, funneling interest, talent, reporters, new members, money. Otherwise audiences will see 10,000 isolated men/bloggers, none having the clout or cachet to represent more than a few of their “subscribers.”
Large women’s groups have tons of spokespeople representing them. Each directs attention and monies back to their ever-growing group.
I despair for men.
I mean, think about it: men get breast cancer, too. Yet no men’s group speaks up about that. Women’s groups insist reporters talk about the brave men “and women” in the military…though females are few soldiers and NO direct combatants. Yet men let women “own” breast cancer.
Men’s groups. for example, never challenge/chide/ condemn Komen for being sexistly female-only. Nor do men’s groups shame organizations who poo-poo diseases that kill men at comparable rates.
Now some men will say it’s a tough sell because, well, “society” doesn’t value men equally. Well, I say, that’s “slave mentality.” If men and their movement acts like women are more valuable, suffer more, deserve more care and funds…who can blame the culture from hearing the misandric message we send?
What hope is their if men won’t advocate for themselves?
We’re in the soup we’re in today because the MRM has acted meek for decades. And too many guys laughed and/or remained silent when women talked about “kicking balls” or all men being “pigs” and so on.
Online “activism” isn’t enough.
We need to put “boots on the ground.”?We need to bring the fight to feminism. We need, at too long last, to start showing up on battlefields during this gender war.
And take no prisoners.
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The was a youtube channel called “noneedforawoman”
The channel had HUNDEREDS of videos of female criminals that committed some pretty horrible crimes.
This was to raise awareness of how much crime females commit.
It looks like the entire youtube channel has been deleted.
Just wondering if anyone knew what happened?
I thought that channel was excellent and I’m sad to see it go….I hope that it was not censored.
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RE:13:2 Joe
“ps-I’d still support Ron Paul if I were US cit”.
It’s a disgrace how so many American men (including those MRAs who suffer terribly at the hands of feminists) actually help give the most powerful position in the world to a feminist.
At least you have an excuse.
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RE:13:51-
Joe says:
“(inside the first two months the fetus is still pretty primitive, and has a limited capacity for pain)”
In view of your knowledge of fetal development, what scientific data have you considered to determine that it is “acceptable” for an unborn baby to be aborted without great concern for pain??
Exactly what is it, which makes an unborn baby able to “withstand” the pain of (for example) a heavy pair of tongs entering the womb to crush his/her skull, scalpels and tongs dismembering his/her body etc??
BTW- An unborn baby is not referred to as a “fetus” until the 9th week after fertilization.
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What the abortion lobby doesn’t want publicized is the link between abortion and breast cancer. The following is an excellent summary:
http://www.abortionbreastcancer.com/The_Link.htm
That the Komen Foundation backed down has to speak very loudly that their stance is ideological and not in the best interests of women.
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Back on the grandmother angle… someone I knew 20 years ago, and who I had last heard had moved ~300 miles away, was in the news recently; she had kidnapped her son’s kid when the custody decision went to the mom (as always), and they were putting out the APB on her, likely because they thought she might still have ties here from way back when.
She had a masters degree and was a middle school “counselor” type who worked with problem kids — i.e., boys who were one serious incident away from the juvenile detention system. (IOW a feminazi.) If she had had a not-too-old local phonebook she could have had my address, so the thought occured to me that if the doorbell rang it could possibly be her, with the kid, on the lamb.
It didn’t, and I still don’t know what I would have done, but karma’s a bitch. Does the father’s rights section of the MRM have a place for paternal grandmas? This must happen more than we hear about, but it doesn’t further the myth of the monstrous patriarch when granny is doing it too.
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“Bodily Sovereignty. No agency, State or otherwise, shall have the power to impose or deny any procedure medical or otherwise on or inside any human’s body.”
In case you hadn’t noticed, Joe, the unborn have a body that’s violated by abortion. And ‘bodily sovereignty’ is abstract, philosophical nonsense anyway – and the idea was invented by Communists and feminists in Weimar Germany with slogans such as “Herrin ihres Körpers” and “Dein Körper gehört Dir!”
“i.e. You are the Supreme Dictator of Your Body, yes that = life and death power over other humans inside your body, be they unborn in the womb or an ectopic twin in the abdomen (latter rare phenomenon happens to men too).”
Isn’t it a shame that these ‘dictators’ aren’t efficient enough to prevent the unwanted pregnancy? (Why would a libertarian want to support dictatorship lol.)
“By the same principal you have the right to refuse injections of vaccines, RFID tracking chips etc.
Anything else takes us down the path of State interference in your own body, which can get very dark indeed.”
This is an example of the slippery slope fallacy.
http://www.fallacyfiles.org/slipslop.html
Of course no one wants too much state control over peoples bodies but arguments for and against such laws need to be considered on merit. Unlike something like forcing people to have vaccinations, abortion isn’t only killing someone else, it involves more than just a ‘right to life’ issue.
1 – the mother is killing *her own* child, which violates the duty of maternal responsibility
2 – other people who related to the unborn child, such as fathers and grandparents, really do have a legitimate interest at stake
3 – society needs a family size of at least three children per woman to survive
4 – abortion, like the abolition of the stigma around single mothers, allows women to avoid shame after irresponsible sex (unlike you’re irrelevant analogies of the state putting vaccines and tracking chips inside people’s bodies by force)
“That said, I reserve the right to judge the character of someone who chooses to abort. My attitude to that depends a good deal on the stage of unborn development (inside the first two months the fetus is still pretty primitive, and has a limited capacity for suffering, for instance) and also the whys. Some women suffer constant hemmorage with pregnancy = likely death for mother & baby. Abortion in that case = self defence IMO.”
The vast majority of pregnancies that end in abortion were not self-defence, they were because of some bitches selfishness. Its another logical fallacy to base a general position on such exceptional cases.
And I remember watching a television program about a little girl who was born unable to feel pain, like other people might be born blind or deaf. Would it have been alright to kill her? I mean, she couldn’t feel pain.
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RE: My 16:17 Clarification
Needless to say, I was pointing out the absurdity of taking a position that one fine point in time determines what is torture to death or “acceptable” by a civilized society.
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The actual ‘shrieking’ was by an audience far larger than annoying women.
This organization was on the wrong side of this issue and was summarily slapped down. Hiding behind pink ribbons didn’t really work.
The real funny part was that it caused a spike in Planned Parenthood donations. Nice PR work people. . .keep stepping on landmines.
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