Gender Neutral Baby Revealed: It’s a Boy

by W.F. Price on January 24, 2012

A British couple that decided to raise their child in a ‘gender neutral’ environment has finally revealed that the kid is a boy. This doesn’t surprise me at all. Knowing these kinds of nuts, it makes perfect sense that they did it to their son, because they usually try to make a point at the expense of a boy, and raising girls like boys is already common throughout the Anglo world.

They had the boy cross-dress, and when he tried to run around naked in the yard (little kids love doing that), they hustled him back in to hide him from the neighbors and gave him dolls. His mother is making him wear the girls’ school uniform, and won’t let him wear combat trousers.

Not long ago, gender identity problems in children were considered a mental disorder. There’s a reason for that. It can cause serious mayhem when puberty hits. It’s unlikely that this kid will think of himself as ‘gender-neutral’ for much longer, but if he walked into the girls’ locker room in middle school and took off his clothes, we all know what would happen to him. So does his mother, and I’m sure she supports boys being punished for such behavior.

This is why she doesn’t really believe in this garbage; she’s just using the boy to bolster her progressive cred. Pure selfishness at her son’s expense.

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GS Jockey January 24, 2012 at 13:49

WTF.

Just when I think I have seen it all….

GS Jockey

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Ted January 24, 2012 at 13:56

One of the photos is titled “Sasha enjoys playtime in a tutu and fairy wings”.

A tutu and fairy wings *isn’t* gender-neutral. It’s excessively little-girl feminine.

Another thing is their choice of name – “Sasha”. In Russia, this is short for “Alexander” and can apply to either sex. Not so in the UK, where it’s assumed to be female from the form of the word.

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Rocco January 24, 2012 at 14:01

This is not the only case and the’re making international news. One in Canada and one in north western europe I believe.

I think this is one of the next conditioning phases. They will be made to sit down to go to the bathroom. In my son’s grammer school 6 years ago there was one boys room and 6 womens rooms.

The city of NY passed a law saying all new construction must have a 3/2 female to male ratio.

Soon we’ll have women’s and men’s only drinking fountains and boys that take to cross dressing will be applauded with new TV show’s….

this is how Rome went I believe.

I’m glad not to be around to see the next phases.

I think this is mental child abuse and these parents should go to prison.

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Jennifer January 24, 2012 at 14:03

I’m saving this article.

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Jennifer January 24, 2012 at 14:04

Wow, you see a PICTURE of the psycho.

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Wobbegong January 24, 2012 at 14:08

Sigh. Was living in the UK 20 years ago. Saw the writing on the wall. I wish they’d just get it over and done with.

Pathetic

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dragnet January 24, 2012 at 14:11

The real scandal here is how any “man” (a term I have no choice but to use loosely these days) could let this happen to his son. I’ve all but come to expect this type of abusive folly from women, but a man should think better of his authority as a father and of his responsbility to his son.

This shit ends when guys stop playing along.

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David F. January 24, 2012 at 14:12

Is anyone familiar with *The Who* song “I’m a Boy”?

It was originally from an unfinished rock opera in which a couple ordered three girls from the AI factory, but my mistake got two girls and a boy. The boy is a “mistake” and they attempt to turn him into a girl.

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Anonymous Reader January 24, 2012 at 14:15

This kind of misandry is indeed similar to the way Rome went, in a way. What is ironic is the mother of this boy may well live long enough to see the results of her abuse. She better not expect to ever have grandchildren, for example. Meanwhile, somewhere not too far away, a Moslem immigrant couple is having their third child…

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Rocco January 24, 2012 at 14:16

OT

Do you know how the PTB are subsidizing feminism? With your tax dollar not their’s.

Here we have Romney pay even less than the base rate of 15%.

The reason, charities, and as we’ve seen charities have been infiltrated by feminists and only give to women.

These org’s then go to the congress and lobby along with corperate sponsorship all paid with your tax and child support money.

Romney paid 14$ tax on 42.7 million.

I’m no fan of wealth distribution but Romney should not get a refund for paying for feminism to destroy our families.

Close the feminism loop hole……gender based org’s should not be allowed to be tax write offs.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/24/news/economy/Romney_tax_return/index.htm?hpt=hp_t2

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Jennifer January 24, 2012 at 14:29

“I just want him to fulfil his potential, and I wouldn’t push him in any direction,” pink Ghestappo mom says.

BWA-hahahaha!

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Jennifer January 24, 2012 at 14:30

They reject tradition. Of what, genitalia?? Yeah, have the penises revoked.

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American January 24, 2012 at 14:34

Of course there experiment is with a young boy, as young girls have rights.

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American January 24, 2012 at 14:37

They want to make a monster transvestite out of this boy before he’s old enough to protect himself, and ABC news will spin it to the masses as a “wander full forward thinking progress for humanity”.

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Lyn87 January 24, 2012 at 14:43

We saw something similar in the U.S. recently, where a couple who is raising their small son as a girl insisted that he be allowed to join the Girl Scouts – and they eventually agreed to it.

So some poor kid who doesn’t have the slightest freaking idea about grown-up human sexuality is going to be totally screwed up for life because of the idiotic conditioning he’s getting from his parents.

They even refer to him as “she.”

That, and the story here, are examples of serious child abuse. And the fact that so many people, including a formerly-respectable organization like the Girl Scouts, go along with this patent nonsense shows how far we have traveled down the chute.

There as SO MANY differences between males and females that it boggles my mind when people do crazy, stupid crap like this. A woman is not a man with different reproductive plumbing, and vice versa.

Our hormones are different. Our brains are different. Some of our internal organs are different.

I can move into my garage and glue a hood ornament to my forehead, but it won’t make me an Oldsmobile, and it would not be true even I insisted that I was and everyone agreed to it. Likewise, calling a boy a “she” or an “it” does not change his “XY” nature that goes down to the chromosome level.

This child is a boy. Full stop.

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CL January 24, 2012 at 14:49

Those are not “gender neutral” clothes, unless by gender neutral she meant neutering.

I’m as tired of these people as I am of the word “gender” replacing “sex” (implying a fluid identity separate from the biological reality).

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Rocco January 24, 2012 at 14:54

For example, the VAWA attorney that assaulted Daddy Justice outside the Johnson and Johnson sponsored public (feminists only) meeting in the State house in Washington DC.

Here’s her assaulting Daddy Justice.

http://annmariewhaley.com/2011/12/05/lisalyn-r-jacobs-charged-arraigned-for-assaulting-daddy-justice-at-vawa-hearing-in-d-c-senate-building/

Here’s her web site:

http://www.legalmomentum.org/about/staff/lisalyn-r-jacobs.html

She’s a charity, at the very bottom right in small letters.

This is how feminism is paid for…..with that money you don’t get in paycheck each month, that thing you give your wife.

Notice also, this is the legal arm of NOW, they are directy writing our social laws under Oblama.

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Highwasp January 24, 2012 at 14:54

“I can move into my garage and glue a hood ornament to my forehead, but it won’t make me an Oldsmobile…”

I don’t care who you are, that there is funny!

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Hf January 24, 2012 at 15:00

Funny how these crazies think that “gender neutral” means wearing girl clothing and playing with girl toys…That doesn’t sound neutral at all.

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Jimmy January 24, 2012 at 15:04

Jennifer,

Are you the same Jennifer who comes to Men’s sites in search of sexual thrills, loudly threatens men with violence, and then gets uncontrollable gina tingles after TFH and Rmaxd slam you down?

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Jim January 24, 2012 at 15:08

Hell hath no fury like a woman.

The Fire Rises

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Jennifer January 24, 2012 at 15:26

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Dubliner January 24, 2012 at 15:27

David F.:

Yep. Classic song. Pete Townshend was there 45 years ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ64urPLfv8

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Jennifer January 24, 2012 at 15:30

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MWPeak January 24, 2012 at 15:48

Only men can be neutered, not women, hence the goal of gender neutrality.

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the_alpha_male January 24, 2012 at 16:01

This little social engineering experiment has been tried before and was a dismal failure. Read up on David Reimer.

Its funny how turning the boy into a girl is considered ‘gender neutral’.

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CL January 24, 2012 at 16:02

Jennifer, where did I say it was all about the word “gender”?

::facepalm::

But since you bring it up, this is a term that has been deliberately foisted on us and which I already wrote about here. Don’t think language doesn’t matter or confuse pointing this out with saying it’s all that matters.

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Emma the Emo January 24, 2012 at 16:16

They encourage him to play with dolls to “hide his masculinity” and combat trousers are banned? That is far from giving the kid freedom to choose and
I wonder what kind of damage this can do… Maybe in itself crossdressing is not that bad, unless he’s protesting and they are forcing him. When you’re that small, a lot of stuff seems ok to you, which only later seems wrong and bad. If they decide to insist on telling him there are no sex differences, he will be in a lot of trouble.

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Jennifer January 24, 2012 at 16:17

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Anon January 24, 2012 at 16:29

I give the boy 18 years or so before he kills himself or suffers a complete mental breakdown and has to go to a mental facility.

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NWOslave January 24, 2012 at 16:50

Oh “Sasha” was raised as a girl alrighty. Funny how Big Daddy promotes all this fun feminist stuff with one hand, and then writes and enforces “anti-bullying” legislation with the other hand. Like who would ever think a boy going to school dressed in a miniskirt and high heels would get picked on?

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Attila January 24, 2012 at 17:24

Let people like this go extinct — it’s all for the best.

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Gavn January 24, 2012 at 17:36

It’s not “gender neutral” if you force him to play with dolls. That’s called “gender enforcement”…

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greyghost January 24, 2012 at 17:52

That kid’s mom is crazy. And the sociey that allows this is crazy.

OT but some what related and another reason I hate the state of Kalifornia. The state bullied a young man to kill his herasser.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.O._Green_School_shooting

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Mickey T January 24, 2012 at 17:59

“Here we have Romney pay even less than the base rate of 15%.”

And why should an investor pay more than the law requires??

Do we want a stupid president, or something??

Has anyone connected Romney money to feminist causes??

Is anyone wondering why CNN is commonly referred to as the “Cunt News Network”??

After Herman Cain, Obama fears Romney the most.

Get the connection??

The Federal law which requires people like Mitt Romney to pay only 15% tax for their kind of income is less misguided than VAWA an Roe vs Wade.

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Richard January 24, 2012 at 18:24

Take a look at the picture of the kid in the tutu.

Then select the most likely outcome of the following:

1) Survives past age 50
2) Dies by age 50 of AIDS-related complications
3) Dies by age 50 of Type-II diabetes-related complications

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Greg January 24, 2012 at 18:51

This isn’t parenting. It’s childhood abuse. The boy has already undergone male neuroendocrinological influences which will not allow him to be a girl. For the disaster of this thinking, remember the tragic, heart-breaking story of David Reimer, subject of the book As Nature Made Him: The boy who was raised as a girl. He’s listed on Wiki.

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Melenas January 24, 2012 at 19:04

This is disgusting. I could understand not enforcing gendered behavior, but this is just enforcing feminine behavior.
Unfortunately even the feminists who claim to care about male issues just end up talking about “toxic masculinity” and how men should be more like women…

This is exactly what feminists want for men.

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Anon January 24, 2012 at 19:08

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Rmaxd January 24, 2012 at 19:14

Seriously wth is up with the women & their insane drivel …

@Jennifer

“and I know “gender” is a far more neutral term.”

How the hell is “gender” a far more neutral term … gender IMPLIES male or female you jackass, gender is not neutral anything ffs …

@Emma the Emu

“Maybe in itself crossdressing is not that bad, unless he’s protesting and they are forcing him.”

Again totally out of her whacked out skull, how is crossdressing not that bad for a 13 year old boy ? … jesus freaking christ

Seriously you chicks need to stop getting stoned on your vaginal fumes …

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Alcuin January 24, 2012 at 19:31

While I feel terrible for the boy, in fact this type of thing is of little consequence, what with Islam growing in the UK and Europe by leaps and bounds. The type of culture that produces this nonsense is sinking faster than the Titanic. There is no future to this culture, and no one will defend it. Lights out. Find a Sufi and tell your wife that you have an Islamic marriage, just in case she wants a divorce.

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Rocco January 24, 2012 at 19:36

@ Mickey T

I wasn’t saying that Romney, a republican, directly donated to charity but that the PTB are using tax loopholes to pay for NOW and the big conventions their having, huge lobbying staff, etc.

Then the PTB write it off and get the money back so it’s coming from the general treasury…..that’s the middle class who makes enough to pay 40% but not enough to afford big tax write offs, especially, today, real estate.

So, while your pay child alimony, the other part of your check goes to pay for gearing up the feminist machine to attack you as a male.

I believe it was Thomas Jefferson that identified this as the very definition of tyranny when a man is made to pay, through taxes, for his own oppression.

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W.F. Price January 24, 2012 at 19:42

None of your business what a couple does with their child.

-Anon

Tell that to a family law commissioner in court and see where it gets you.

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Aservant January 24, 2012 at 20:06

@ Alcuin,

Completely checked out of reality, too bad, your’re a decent writer…..but then again, so was your evil boogy man Hitler……..

Another one checks into full time perversion…..but at least he has Anon with him………and several million others…….

Let us know how it works out for ya.

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Jennifer January 24, 2012 at 20:07

Anon, that couple is sharing with us their own twisted nonsense.

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Art Vandelay January 24, 2012 at 20:54

This is really shocking. I think everyone knows what school was like and what happened to those who were just a little different. Well this kid has 10+ years of hell coming up and the parents don’t care. Sometimes I really think people stopped caring for each other completely, instead focusing on only themselves and what they want and how to get it from others. They sure don’t stop if it’s impacting their partner, but even more egregiously they are forcing their selfishness on the children.

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Nemo January 24, 2012 at 21:21

Imagine a pair of men raising a girl and forcing her to play football, dressing her as a boy, making her play only with toy guns and plastic soldiers, calling her by a male name, etc. and then bragging about their “little boy” to a reporter.

Child protective services would be there the next day, have them both arrested for child abuse, and take the girl into custody.

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MRA January 24, 2012 at 21:29

After watching the pictures it look clear she push him more for the girl side than let him decide/neutral gender, because obviously the nature always win and the boys with this mother, the testosterone is going to start working soon, let him be 13 and start looking at his friend boobs coming out the school uniform or maybe she will push him to think a pines is a tumor and an erection is something sick,

Gender neutral but she push him to not doing certain things, not make fucking sense.

She is doing exactly what “gender is a social constitutions ” feminists think.

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Aharon January 24, 2012 at 21:53

I think it’s fine if parents teach their daughters how to shoot, hunt, and skin wild game. I think it’s also fine for parents to teach their sons how to cook, clean house, and sew a button back onto a shirt. However, the young boy’s parents have a spiritual calling to serve as guides for their son and to teach him how to realistically live and function abundantly as a man. The actions of the parents are immoral and a perversion of nature. I hope that the innocent boy is never the victim of violence because of the confusing sexual identity and lifestyle forced upon him by his parents.

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MRA January 24, 2012 at 22:03

I remember now here is the history about a daughter of a feminist complying about her crazy mom belief and how she didn’t let her play with dolls.

“My mother’s feminist principles coloured every aspect of my life. As a little girl, I wasn’t even allowed to play with dolls or stuffed toys in case they brought out a maternal instinct. It was drummed into me that being a mother, raising children and running a home were a form of slavery. Having a career, travelling the world and being independent were what really mattered according to her.”

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1021293/How-mothers-fanatical-feminist-views-tore-apart-daughter-The-Color-Purple-author.html#ixzz1kRmzpaw7

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Emma the Emo January 24, 2012 at 22:26

Rmaxd,
What 13 year old boy? This guy is 5. What I was saying is that a lot of weird stuff doesn’t seem so weird to you when you’re that small. Negative feelings about it often come from other people telling you it’s bad and weird (like bullies who will possibly or even probably mock him for his clothes in school). That is what I mean by saying crossdressing might not be bad all on its own, unless he really hates it. He seems smily in those photos (of course we don’t know if he is always that happy and ok about it…), for now. But things change as you grow up. Speaking as someone who’s been a child and experienced weird stuff done to me by adults.
Doesn’t mean I approve of what the parents are doing though. Making him act more feminine, confusing him and taking photos that will embarass him later in life will stunt his true potential rather than help reach it.

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Rocco January 24, 2012 at 22:39

Women have lost the skill or raising children in two generations of brain washing and selfishness.

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Lyn87 January 24, 2012 at 22:50

CL January 24, 2012 at 14:49
I’m as tired of these people as I am of the word “gender” replacing “sex” (implying a fluid identity separate from the biological reality).

I concur. This has been one of my pet peeves for years.

A person has a sex.
A noun has a gender.

There are two sexes: male and female, and I am not a noun.

There are four genders in the English language: masculine, feminine, neuter, and indeterminate (or common).

These four nouns should suffice to illustrate the four genders in English:
Bull is masculine – because bulls are male.
Cow is feminine – because cows are female.
Calf is indeterminate (or common) – because calves are either male or female, but the word calf doesn’t specify which.
Barn is neuter – because a barn is neither male nor female.

Some languages (like Spanish) have two genders: masculine and feminine. Others (like German) have three: usually masculine, feminine, and neuter. This can leave Anglophones scratching their heads wondering why a German door is feminine but a German window is neuter.

But in no language is the word for boy a feminine noun. There’s a reason for that – sex is biological, while gender is merely linguistic.

(Oddly enough, the German word for boy is a masculine noun, while the German word for girl is a neuter noun. A linguistic anomaly – I’m sure German parents know their young daughters are female.)

I had a serious run-in with one of the professors in my master’s degree program who was VERY upset that I refused to use the word gender when referring to people. I used the correct word instead: sex. After his threatening me with failure and me trying to get him fired, the Dean insisted we talk it out before he moved me to another professor. We did, and I told him that I would play along under duress even though we both knew I was right and that he was bowing to political correctness. Oh well… so I graduated with a 3.8 instead of a 4.0.

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lensman January 24, 2012 at 23:22

If you guys want to see what this sort of upbringing does to a man, check out Joe Meek’s biography, over at bizzare magazine:

http://www.bizarremag.com/entertainment/music/1675/joe_meek.html

His mom wanted a girl so she dressed him up as one. As a result Joe was always confused sexually, and pretty fucked up psychologically. In the end he shot his neighbours and then himself.

Truly an inspirational story, that one.

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Rocco January 24, 2012 at 23:29

@ Lyn

I read today on mens reddit a poster say that gender was softer than sex like if a girl kisses a girl that’s where gender covers these grey parts.

And I’m paraphrasing, but the coffee almost came out of my nose I laughed so hard.

But that’s the concept their shoveling to the herd.

It’s called bisexuality, and it’s A OK with me, but the MRM should seek to avoid the rhetorical brain washing tools of the feminist establishment, which is the entire establishment at this point.

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Depravo January 24, 2012 at 23:43

Well of course it was a boy. Big surprise there.

I don’t know of anything this extreme of course, but I know plenty of boys raised in trendy households or by ‘progressive’ single mothers and it’s probably a bigger handicap to healthy adult development than being raised by crack addicts.

The reward for supplication to feminist demands is always more outlandish demands. It’s amazing how so-called conservatives who believe in appeasing the beast through compromise never seem to work this out.

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Michael Steane January 25, 2012 at 00:16

Obviously, it’s a boy. If it had been a girl, the parents would have been charged with abuse.

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nigeles175d January 25, 2012 at 01:06

As has already been mentioned, David Reimer.

An excerpt from wikipedia:

David Reimer (August 22, 1965 – May 5, 2004) was a Canadian man who was born as a healthy male, but was sexually reassigned and raised as female after his penis was accidentally destroyed during circumcision.[1] Psychologist John Money oversaw the case and reported the reassignment as successful, and as evidence that gender identity is primarily learned. Academic sexologist Milton Diamond later reported that Reimer failed to identify as female since the age of 9 to 11,[2] and that he began living as male at age 15. Reimer later went public with his story to discourage similar medical practices. Eventually he committed suicide, owing to suffering years of severe depression, financial instability and a troubled marriage.

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Robert K January 25, 2012 at 01:39

Christ – the photos in the link make me want to weep.

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Anonymous January 25, 2012 at 02:36

Seriously you chicks need to stop getting stoned on your vaginal fumes …
Rmaxd
hilarious

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Opus January 25, 2012 at 03:50

This all derives from enlightenment-thinking Blank Slatism, or to put it bluntly Equality: Everyone is equal, no matter what blatantly obvious differences there are. Academics like Foucault and Butler then hone in on those VERY rare examples of people who are somewhat hermaphoditic, wax-sentimental, and then insist that Sex (gender as they call it) is somehow socially constructed. Stalin got rid of a lot of Academics so I understand, and I begin to sympathise with him, for I would like to do the same.

I think I mentioned this before, but a decade ago, in some conference held in Latin America the delegates deduced that there were no less than five sexes (or as they insisted gender); the only desenting voice was that of the representive for the Roman Catholics who could find no more than two. When you suspect that the only voice of sanity is from the Catholics, then you know thing are seriously crazy!

I, however, have and will continue to keep secret my own sex, at least on this blog, as is my Human Right.

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nugganu January 25, 2012 at 04:30

He’ll probably end up being a pedophile

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Natália January 25, 2012 at 06:24

Poor boy. How could the parents do this to their child?

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namae nanka January 25, 2012 at 06:46

“None of your business what a couple does with their child.”

Unless it’s FGM, even if a ritual nick, then off to prison you go.
Male circumcision on the other hand is healthy! Not hard to see why:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/813/speniscutoffhilarious.jpg/

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Rocco January 25, 2012 at 06:57

The Reimer case is well known in the MRM community.

These women just hate men and want to torture a boy.

When I was young we knew some lesbians hated men and wished them harm.

Now they run the country and good fathers are kicked our of families for being good fathers and obvious child abuse by wacko’s is celebrated with 15 minutes of fame.

That Venezualan woman was exactly correct, the “system” does more violence to women than any man could, except for the rare instances of real assault.

All it take for tyranny to gain a foothold is for good men to do nothing.

The social monstrocity that is feminism needs to be purged and it’s adherents removed from office.

I notice Judge Ginsberg refuses to self identify as feminist.

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Kyo January 25, 2012 at 07:22

Lyn87, I’m 100% with you on this misuse of the word “gender”, which is linguistic and has nothing to do with biological sex. Languages are free to arrange their genders however they like; Europeans mainly chose to base their systems on sex. It’s perfectly possible for animate/non-animate to be the main distinction, and some African languages have all kinds of distinctions that make as much sense as anything else, but get laughed at when someone points out that this or that language has “eight genders” or whatever.

One very famous Australian Aboriginal language, Dyirbal, has a class for “dangerous things” (and why not? When you live close to nature, whether or not something is unsafe for you is as good a thing to encode in grammar as any), and women are included in this, giving George Lakoff the legendary title for his book, “Women, Fire, and Dangerous Things”.

http://www.amazon.com/Women-Dangerous-Things-George-Lakoff/dp/0226468046

(Oddly enough, the German word for boy is a masculine noun, while the German word for girl is a neuter noun. A linguistic anomaly – I’m sure German parents know their young daughters are female.)

It’s actually not an anomaly at all. In words like “Fräulein” and “Mädchen”, the endings “-chen” and “-lein” are diminutives, and overwhelm, so to speak, whatever the gender of the root word is. Male nouns with those endings also become neuter. If it somehow became popular to call a boy not a “Junge” but a “Jungchen” or “Junglein”, those words would be neuter also. The somewhat old-fashoined word for a boy, “Knabe”, is masculine, but “little boy”, “Knäbchen”, is of course neuter.

(This is correct, isn’t it? German experts, someone help me out.)

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CL January 25, 2012 at 07:31

@ Lyn87

I had a serious run-in with one of the professors in my master’s degree program who was VERY upset that I refused to use the word gender when referring to people. I used the correct word instead: sex.

A professor got upset with me (complete with look of horror) when she talked to me about my use of the masculine pronoun as a universal, saying “words have power” and so on. I went on using it rather than the clumsy “he/she” or alternating the two. This was in the English department at an ivy league British university, of all places. You just can’t get away from this stuff! At least she didn’t threaten my grades over it and left it at that.

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Darrell January 25, 2012 at 07:33

In the conscience of most human beings, sexual mutilation is
diabolical on all levels (I say most because I am also aware of
the horrific action done to girls in some parts of the world).
However in a “civilized” society some parents are opting to
mentally mutilate their children by injecting them with the
current poisons that are being allowed to be considered as
a “social trend” that can be experimented with. Rather such
actions by parents who do this to their children is another sign
of the insidious deterioration of the family unit and the purity it
once represented in the fabric of society. We can thank the
pig headed stubborn so called liberalism of feminism for “spearheading” societal abortions like this!

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Anonymous Reader January 25, 2012 at 08:33

Emma, I can tell that you have never raised a child. It is a lot like tending to trees. On the one hand, day to day, it looks like nothing is happening. Same person, same clothing, same games, same behavior.

But that’s an illusion. There are very few moments of dramatic change in the life of a child – a cluster in infancy / toddlerhood, another cluster in puberty. What happens is constant, unending, gradual change. Like drops of water on a stone gradually creates a hollow.

So what is taught to a 5 year old child is the basis for what will be learned at age 6. Behavior that may be not all that acceptable but tolerable in a 5 year old will continue unless it is changed – and suddenly, at the age of 7, there is a problem.

You say, “Oh, he’s only 5, he’s not 13″ – yes, but 3 years ago he was a terrible two, and 3 years from now he’ll be a 2nd grader. Time is unstoppable and can be remorseless. The attitudes and behaviors this boy is being taught now will still be in his head 6 years from now to some extent. So dressing him up in girl’s clothes will affect him, and is abusive.

Because, Emma, boys and girls are not the same. Men and women are not the same. You are not a “man who can have babies and sits down to pee”, and I’m not an “inferior woman with an anger problem”. We are different from each other, and this boy isn’t being allowed to “celebrate his difference”. He’s being forced to conform to an unreasonable expectation, that likely is causing permanent damage to his emotional and mental health.

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Mark January 25, 2012 at 08:42

The whole story makes me want to puke. Has mankind sunk so low?

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Dehbashi January 25, 2012 at 08:58

Well there are women that just aren’t fit to raise kids.

“Mother” rapes 11 year old daugher while recording on cellphone

http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-mother-rapes-daughter-to-teach-her-about-sex,0,6186029.story

Babysitter sex abuses 5 year old girl while streaming it live on Skype.

http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/wpix-babysitter-arrested-sex-abuse-skype,0,6034473.story

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Opus January 25, 2012 at 09:04

I am pleased to see that I am not the only one here who greatly dislikes the use of the word Gender, where Sex should be used. It is easy to see why women of the Feminist persuasion and their Mangina supporters do so, but I think that there is more to it: We use the word Sex in casual conversation where we actually mean Sexual Intercourse, thus prudish Anglo-Americans seek a different word to describe Sex that is different from the shorthand for Sexual Intercourse, hence the borrowing from Language. Personally I enjoy having Gender with hot chicks. ;)

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Eric J Schlegel January 25, 2012 at 09:06

nugganu January 25, 2012 at 04:30
He’ll probably end up being a pedophile

Possibly, as he seeks to re-frame his devilish childhood mental abuse.

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Art Vandelay January 25, 2012 at 09:17

Others (like German) have three: usually masculine, feminine, and neuter. This can leave Anglophones scratching their heads wondering why a German door is feminine but a German window is neuter.

This also complicates a few other things, according to the gender mainstreamers. For example most job descriptions are in masculine form but can be modified to also have a feminine form, this applies to a lot of other nouns that describe a group of persons as well. So now, if you post a job opening you have to always use both forms, and when using an English job description people tend to add m/w, lest they be sued for gender discrimination. So, when looking for a carpenter you have to write Tischler/in, standing for both the male and female form. Although most of us would probably prefer a man for that job.

Whenever in a written discussion you don’t use both forms you’ll have someone point to it and call you sexist.

They also seem to want to do away with mother (Mutter) and father (Vater) and replace it with parent1 and parent2 (Elter1, Elter2), so as not to discriminate against homosexual parents. This of course doesn’t make sense for biological parents, but they want to decouple biology from it anyways – makes receiving child support easier.

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georg January 25, 2012 at 09:20

@kyo

Your observations on german diminutives are correct. They are all neuter.

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CL January 25, 2012 at 09:32

We use the word Sex in casual conversation where we actually mean Sexual Intercourse, thus prudish Anglo-Americans seek a different word to describe Sex that is different from the shorthand for Sexual Intercourse, hence the borrowing from Language.

Indeed. Of course, this only makes insisting on using the correct term all the more fun!

They also seem to want to do away with mother (Mutter) and father (Vater) and replace it with parent1 and parent2 (Elter1, Elter2)

Dehumanising. Trust the Germans.

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Art Vandelay January 25, 2012 at 09:40

In words like “Fräulein” and “Mädchen”, the endings “-chen” and “-lein” are diminutives, and overwhelm, so to speak, whatever the gender of the root word is. Male nouns with those endings also become neuter. If it somehow became popular to call a boy not a “Junge” but a “Jungchen” or “Junglein”, those words would be neuter also. The somewhat old-fashoined word for a boy, “Knabe”, is masculine, but “little boy”, “Knäbchen”, is of course neuter.

Yes, almost everything ending on “chen” or “lein” uses the neutral gender. Further complicating that the plural of words uses the feminine form, for example “The boys” is “Die Jungen” even though the sex of the boys of course is male. You might be pressed to say that at least in language, gender is a social construct ;) Most things described in language don’t have a gender at all, using the male form for the word table doesn’t give the table a penis. Still it’s a big deal for feminists when talking about groups to always include the female form of the noun if you could be speaking of a mixed group because they feel the German language and the genders of words are a way the patriarchy discriminates against them (can’t make this shit up). Most of language and grammar is so illogical that I’d think women are responsible for big parts of it.

The word “Mädchen” stems from “Magd”, which is the feminine form, but also describes a person tasked with low level house- or farmwork (akin to maid), unless married to the head of the household. Interestingly, it’s also kind of implied in the German language that a girl becomes a woman as she is married. In the English language you sometimes see the salutation “Miss” used for unmarried women, this mirrors the German “Fräulein” which is mostly out of style, also of neutral gender. A married women is addressed as “Frau” (means Mrs, but as a noun also means woman), the word is of female gender and of which Fräulein is the diminutive.

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American January 25, 2012 at 10:05

Wow whelmer, this is one of the best threads Ive read on Spearhead. This position and article should encroach on some main stream media attention.

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Ollie January 25, 2012 at 10:07

I am disgusted by these meddling blank-slatists trying to use their child as a tool to promote their dogma.

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Somebody in Finland January 25, 2012 at 10:20

In Finland, there has been somewhat similar case. In Finnish case, even the parents were gender neutral. The child was called Ruu which is probably unique name, the mother was called Kettu (= fox) and father was called Susi (= wolf). And as the parents didn’t live together, the child was told that Fox and Wolf live in separate nests.

Fox and Wolf had also decided that even Ruu doesn’t need to know his/her own gender. In their opinion that kind information was not importamt. The important thing was that Ruu can grow up in a gender neutral way.

http://ihmissuhteet.blogspot.com/2009/03/sukupuolisensitiivinen-kasvatus.html (In Finnish)

Btw, in Finnish language, all personal pronouns are gender neutral.

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Rocco January 25, 2012 at 12:01

@ Finnish Dude

So your saying that most pronouns have been for centuries gender neutral in Finnish?

Two differences I had with some comments.

1. How does this go toward recieving more child support by un-sexing the entire population.

IMO it doesn’t this is a sick game of I”m the normy to a bunch of freaks in office.

2. @ CL I don’t think you could get away with using “he” in professional or academic circles in the U.S., without being fired or expelled, possibly passively with failing grades.

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Rocco January 25, 2012 at 12:39

Here we have the entire soup in one pot. Here is Nixon’s daughter causing a minor commotion because she said she thought being gay is a choice.

The gay community freaks out…..it must be in-born (and admit, otherwise they’ll blame us) and then admits it’s all because she’s bisexual, and, in her words:

(Nixon later said, “I don’t pull out the ‘bisexual’ word because nobody likes the bisexuals”).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathaniel-frank/is-it-a-choice-to-be-gay_b_1231126.html

As the queen says “It” means what I mean it to mean nothing more and nothing less…….off with her head!

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Dehbashi January 25, 2012 at 13:37

Now look at the sexism in the comment in this piece.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/24/uk-lgbt-bullying-video_n_1228169.html?ref=mostpopular

Basically, a girl was told to use the boys’ locker rooms and restroom since she was a lesbian and thus attracted to girls and not boys since they knew that there was a risk of her doing who knows what with the girls.

Of course, the tools in the Huff and Puff Post were upset about it saying how can you say that gay people are overly sexualized and that they would never do anything like that. They then said that the boys may do horrible things including raping her just because she is a female.

Basically, Lesbian=Pure as snow, good. Straight male = Pure evil.

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Art Vandelay January 25, 2012 at 14:27

How does this go toward recieving more child support by un-sexing the entire population.

Are you referring to my comment? I was talking about eliminating the connection between calling someone parent or father and the biological connection. I believe in n some US states you can be forced to pay child support if you “take on a fatherly role”. Or the cuckolded husband has to pay, even though his DNA wasn’t involved.

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Common Monster January 25, 2012 at 15:23

Usually women who screw up their sons are single moms, and it happens during the teen years, so this may be just Act I.

I’m pretty sure it was in Why Men Are the Way They Are 25 yrs ago that Farrell mentioned the interesting factoid that women stated a preference for dating a convicted murderer over a cross-dresser by 3:1. I don’t know who thinks up surveying people with such questions, but the comment way above about the parents shooting themselves in the foot so far as ever having grandkids is concerned made me think of it.

Maybe Mom is privy to some massive shift in female sentiment which has occured, and fresh data needs to be collected to clue the rest of us
in, but I doubt it. I’d also note how much more “inclusive” men are in this regard than women. Raising a girl to dress and be masculine certainly wouldn’t help, but she wouldn’t have to kill someone to get a date.

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tiredofitall January 25, 2012 at 16:11

“Poor boy. How could the parents do this to their child?” – Natália

Kinda answered your own question there.

Poor boy.

If this had been a little girl no way in hell mom would’ve put her through this “gender neutral” twaddle. The fact that dad stood by and watched as his wife did this to his son disgusts me to no end.

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K Taylor January 25, 2012 at 17:01

I saw the story about the kid in Toronto, Canada like this and it made me sick.

I love the comments made by other commenters about single mothers screwing their children up. I’m one of those screwed up kids. I got a mexican leather whip lashing, got thrown by my hair because I couldnt produce a hot wheels car when woken up at 3 in the morning, many items broken over me in spankings, and the joy of having my mother move into a new apartment without telling me where the new one was when I was out. So I do know firsthand about how women, unchecked, are quite capable of becoming horrible parents. If I had a dad around, he probably would have never let half the shit that happened to me happen.

Back to the gender-neutral boy.

This sort of thing is so totally abuse. The fact that they are putting their kid’s name and picture in the paper and probably saving the articles is most definitely going to bubble up and make this boy want to kill both of his parents, and hopefully the judge will let him off given the insanity.

The Toronto boy was allowed to grow long hair and liked to play with dolls. Again, like some of the comments above, he had an older brother, which tells me that this insane stunt was pulled by a mother who wanted a daughter, either by birthing one or by turning a boy into one. He too was wearing pink with long hair and liked to play with dolls.

The question almighty, though, is if the boy (also about 5 at the time of the article) had an older brother, and was in fact a boy, what the hell were dolls and dollhouses doing in the house in the first place? Who has two boys under age 8 and buys dollhouses and Barbies?!

Nutters for sure. Yeah, they dont want to push him in the direction of either “gender”. So they went out and bought him $350 worth of girls toys just in case he wanted to gravitate towards the toys his brother was playing with, or the hand me downs that his brother used to play with. Or the toys that the dad plays with.

If you are a dad and you allow this to be done to your son, your brother or your father needs to take you out to the woodshed for a good beating.

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crella January 25, 2012 at 18:52

I would assume that ‘neutral’ would not involve banning of any type of masculine clothing. They’re not doing anything ‘gender neutral’, they’re obviously trying to prove that you can raise boys easily as girls and not have to put up with any of that annoying (endearing, if you’re a normal person) boy behavior.

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crella January 25, 2012 at 21:00

“Who has two boys under age 8 and buys dollhouses and Barbies?! ”

My mother, ever soaked in Oprah vibes (this was pre-oprah but you know the kind of schlock I mean) sent our son a rag doll when he was two or three, ‘because boys need to learn how to take care of babies too’. He used to drag it around by the leg, used it as stuffing in the corner of a fort, a Trojan horse (“It’s a bomb! Back away”) . ‘Yes Mum he loved the doll’ LOL!

How can you not love how boys play? I’ve always felt I was blessed to have a son. Men don’t have to be effeminate to be tender, these parents are making a dreadful mistake.

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Mickey T January 25, 2012 at 21:10

‘Women have lost the skill of child raising in two generations of brain washing and selfishness.”

I was at a strip mall today, where I watched as a young woman walked down the sidewalk engrossed in a cell phone conversation. Her toddler (about two years old and new to walking) was trailing behind her trying to keep up while he was zig zagging from the the parking area (where cars were pulling in and out) and the store fronts. She would occasionally look behind her to see if he was there. When veered off while she happen to be checking on him, she would tell him to follow her.

You are using standards which no longer exist or apply.

Women have finally freed themselves of any and all social standards and obligations. They are now truly liberated and we are truly the chauvinists after all.

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Attila January 25, 2012 at 22:05

Anglo-Saxons and their prudishness are a puzzle to people like myself (Southern Euro descent). They won’t tell a saucy or ethnic joke in public but when they get home from work – they probably get on the computer and spend their nights downloading hardcore porn.

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Kyo January 26, 2012 at 03:07

@Georg and Art — Thanks for your confirmation about German gender. I only studied the language in high school, and made a short visit (to Vienna) and don’t speak it daily. Always happy to learn more!

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Michael January 26, 2012 at 03:49

Lyn87

(Oddly enough, the German word for boy is a masculine noun, while the German word for girl is a neuter noun. A linguistic anomaly – I’m sure German parents know their young daughters are female.)

The German word for girl is “das Mädchen” which is the diminutive form of “die Magd”. “Magd” is cognate with English “maid”, and is feminine. Hope that explains it.

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aussieguy January 26, 2012 at 04:15

These parents are messing up their kid…Just watch what happens when the boy hits his teenage years!

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Lyn87 January 26, 2012 at 07:37

Back to the language thing for a minute:

This is getting a little esoteric, but since English derives from both Latin and Germanic, and other modern languages that derive from those assign genders, looking at this is useful to understanding the feminization of language and the destructive implications of it.

I took five years of German a looong time ago, and this has always struck me a fairly arbitrary, but I am very rusty at it. For those who don’t know any German, just skip this, or at least skip to the end where I conclude my point.

Thanks for the responses: I can see the beginnings of a pattern that has exceptions, just like English. It seem to me that there is both less and more rhyme and reason in German to this than some of the stated responses. Except for assigning genders to things that have a sex, German genders are essentially arbitrary. There is nothing inherently female about a door (die Tür) to differentiate it from a neuter window (das Fenster).

For children and young people, the diminutives-are-feminine rule doesn’t help much, either. Das Mädchen is a diminutive feminine object assigned a neuter article, and the article determines the gender of the noun. On the other hand, die Fräulein, which is also a diminutive feminine object, has a feminine article. Arbitrary.

However, Die Jungen is not an anomaly, since the plural nominative article in German is Die. Since Jungen is the plural of Junge, Die Jungen is the plural form of der Junge.

If you’ve been skipping, this is where I make my point. People whose languages have arbitrary or inconsistent genders are not confused by their own language. They know that most living things have sexes (with some exceptions), while inanimate objects do not. Gender is a linguistic construct, and language is a social construct – so to the extent that linguistic gender does not equate to biological sex, gender really is a social construct.

By allowing the feminization of our language to replace sex with gender, society begins to equate the two. So in the linguistic alchemy of feminism, what we used to understand as sex is presumed to be a social construct too. It is most assuredly not, but since feminism cannot to erase the actual differences between male and female, they try to do the next best thing, which is to demonstrate that masculine and feminine are social constructs, then equate sex (male/female) with gender (masculine/feminine).

It’s a sick game. Very few feminists understand this stuff, but they will still go apoplectic when you insist on using sex to designate things that are male or female, rather than the more popular but incorrect gender.

That’s reason enough to do it. ;-)

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Anonymous Reader January 26, 2012 at 11:06

CL, never mind the Germans, in the US more and more states are altering birth certificates to read “Parent 1″ and “Parent 2″. I’m told that the new application for a passport has that as well, thanks to Hillary at State Department but cannot verify.

The deliberate obliteration of “mother” and “father” by feminism is well under way in the US. Don’t kid yourself.

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Emma the Emo January 27, 2012 at 12:08

Anonymous Reader,

No, I haven’t raised a child, but I’ve been one. I’m still young enough to remember what it was like.

I know men and women are not the same, I didn’t say they were. But as far as fashion goes, lots of things were masculine in the past which we now see as less than masculine, so my guess was that clothes don’t have anything intrinsically damaging in them. But i could be wrong.

I agree with you that he’s forced to conform to an unreasonable expectation.

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The Man On The Street January 28, 2012 at 04:10

Hmmmmm
Two lesbobos bringing up a boy “genderless”. When in actuality, they are forcing him to be feminine. Yet, noone sees the writing on the wall. Seriously, two lesbobos… FEMALES! tutus and wings…

This is abuse.

TMOTS

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Ben January 30, 2012 at 00:10

Emmo I’m late to the party but I hope you can read them.

That is problem with the logic that you and Feminist like you have. Since X culture defies the norm that it proves that something is just cultural. I’m sure in some cultures you can find people eating feces as well. In actually you can find deviations all over the place but do these actually help survival of a society in competitions to other societies? That is where the problems lies. Not finding selective examples that suit your belief.

Some youtube commenter best defined it in its most simple terms as “Biology manifest through society.” Things are placid and can yield very damaging results (i.e. David Rhemier, Storm/Jazz, etc) as shown by radical social engineering experiments. The two are interwoven. Harnessing differences from society you actually strengthens a society as a whole on already defined evolutionary psychology.

In your case putting on different clothes can harm not only the individual but the society as a whole. They raised a chimp (girl) named Lucy as human, believing that species where socially constructed (with the idea that we shared much of the sames genes ergo it shouldn’t be a problem, etc). Lucy did well until puberty. Afterwards she was unsafe to be around and they put her back into the jungle. BECAUSE she never learned to be a chimp with social interactions with other chimps, she died. By making men into women you weaken a society. Men will lose what it means to be men (aggressive, territorial, etc) and if some crises happens the society will fail.

You are trying to change thousands of years of evolution. Men and women are not equal, nor will they ever be.

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