How the sin of addiction can lead to seduction and abandonment

by Dalrock on November 22, 2011

The topic of pornography addiction in Fireproof has me thinking about the issue of addiction in general.  Addiction is serious business.  The addict loses all sense of perspective, and will do anything to get their next fix.  This profoundly corrupts their sense of morals, and therefore makes them untrustworthy.  Very often the thing which the addict craves is something which would be healthy in the right context.  The power of their addiction however can turn what should be wholesome and beautiful into something dark and shameful.

There is one kind of addict which we have discussed but haven’t given enough attention to in this space.  This addict is on an obsessive search to secure as many notches as they can.  They are fueled by the high they receive when they convince their victim to go all the way.  Taking what they want by force wouldn’t have the same impact;  the rush comes from the victim’s willing consent.  In their amoral attempt to get their next fix, they will say or do anything to seduce their mark.  The mark for their own part typically never sees this coming.  They think if they offer themselves in good faith they will be loved and accepted as a result.  But while the addict isn’t acting out of malice, once the mark has gone all the way the addict has no more use for them.  The mark is left bewildered, hurt, and rejected.  This experience can be absolutely devastating and life altering.  What did they do wrong?  Why did the addict drop them as soon as the deed was done, only to pursue fresh meat?  Did the discarded mark never really mean anything to them after all?  Was all of the wooing and effort to make them feel at ease only a ruse to get them to consent?  Unfortunately, often the answer is yes.

We’ve all known the victims of this kind of cruel use of the innocent.  We’ve seen the life long pain this can inflict.  I must stress that there is nothing inherently dirty or wrong with the victim’s choice to consent.  They were merely offering their most precious gift, hoping to be loved and accepted in return.  Their only fault is having been too trusting of those who said all of the right words but never really meant them.  Had the addict not discarded them once it was done it could have been something of great beauty.

I assume everyone reading this knows exactly what I’m talking about.  The Church’s addiction for grooms is a not well kept secret.  They most often woo the young, promising acceptance if he only does this one thing for them.  While innocent the young mark still might sense something is amiss with the seducer.  Many will offer to give up something lesser instead, keeping their one true gift for when they are certain their love will be returned.  What if I call her my girlfriend, maybe even live together with her?  I promise to remain faithful.  But the seducer is adamant;  he must go all the way, and it must be done in public.  Once you do this, they tell him, you will be loved as one of us.  But the mark is suspicious, he’s heard of other men who went all the way only to be treated with contempt afterward.  This is all part of the game for the seducer, who knows the conquest is near.  This time it’s different.  Those other grooms meant nothing to me.  The mark still isn’t sure, but the seducer knows all of the right words.  I’m not that kind of church.  I’m the kind which actually values marriage.  You can trust me.

How can they ever trust again?

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Una Salus Victus November 22, 2011 at 14:02

You point out distinctly the reason I am averse to organized religion and opted to become a Deist. I can live by my own tenets and have no use of what others “tell” me to accept and believe. My mind is cognitive and I shalt not sacrifice it.

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MRA November 22, 2011 at 14:10

OT: But important

Miss World 2011, Miss Bosnia is >>>16<<< not 17 that is why there is a hysteria about it.
Look at the info and pics of her here
http://www.missworld.com/competitor/BOSNIA-AND-HERZEGOVINA/42.html

Here is fe media

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15692592

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shiva1008 November 22, 2011 at 14:26

The first couple paragraphs reminded me of Roosh V.

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PUA Officially Out of Closet November 22, 2011 at 14:41

How about how the sin of PUA can lead to bi-sexual, 2 guys 2 girls swinging?

The latest news to rock the PUA world and take game to the next level.

David De Angelo aka Eben Pagan, CEO of DoubleYourDating and the singlemost financially successful PUA guru in the history of game, has simultaneously come out as bi-sexual AND married a physically unattractive bi-sexual Caribbean woman who happens to look like him!

http://static.weddingwire.com/static/wedding/1175001_1180000/1175719/thumbnails/400x400_1310271315469-kiss.jpg

Eben’s “coming out party in NYC” photo is the 7th one down on the first row here;

http://www.weddingwire.com/wedding/UserViewWebsiteToolPhotoAlbum?wid=c84f40cf75a2e7ce&pid=1e09b7a5e3a77904

The couple will have an open, polyamorous marriage;

http://saltydroid.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Eben-Pagan-Self-Made-Wealth-Nipples.jpg

As espoused in their “co-created positive wedding affirmations” in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iixfj7XmOzE

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Matt K November 22, 2011 at 14:48

From MRA’s BBC article linked to above
“A hundred or so feminist demonstrators turned up, outside the [Miss World] venue, to object to what they saw as a degrading human cattle market.”

Hmm. So let me get this straight. A hundred or so heifers turn up to protest a… No. Wait!

Meanwhile, on topic, the Wikipedia entry for ‘gaslighting’ explains what the church is up to. I had some witch do that to me as a young man. Not pleasant when you don’t know what’s going on. Really started to doubt the reliability of my own memory. Thankfully I got into computers part way through and as they were not networked back then, my actions were the only variable. I soon realized that in an environment in which I had control, everything was exactly where I left it/remembered it to be and thus the ‘problem’ was not me.

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Annonymous November 22, 2011 at 14:58

It is not only the institution of the church conniving and decieving men to abandon their life, their freedom and their integrity at the alter of matrimoney. Every other institutional form of the realm and culture is doing this too.

And not a single one of any of them institutional decievers are being honest with their male victims, whom are never ever told the truth, that to become engaged to a wife is to become a putative criminal and a potential outlaw … ever more so, if such an unfortunate male dupe were to then beget legitimate children.

But let no man set forth in attempt to pity or feel sory for himself from these damning experiences … Because we brought it on ourselves with our own hands, our own heads and our own hearts in full knowledge of its consequences.

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Matt K November 22, 2011 at 15:00

Oh who to blame when there’s no white male around?

Perhaps the abuse excuse is not so well known to Latvians. Just sickening. Kudos to the court

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-15834904

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Jim November 22, 2011 at 15:09

It’s not addiction. It is the need to keep the ponzi scheme going. The human meat grinder we call “society” depends on the ill informed and the naive. I was both prior to reading this which in turn shined light onto The Spearhead.

http://www.singularity2050.com/2010/01/the-misandry-bubble.html

http://www.singularity2050.com/2011/01/the-time-has-arrived.html

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Uncle Elmer November 22, 2011 at 15:16

What about guys who are addicted to The Spearhead, with its intensely gratifying Like/Dislike feedback?

I feel like a rat programmed to bang the lever over and over to get another tasty nugget to roll down the tube.

It’s better’n sex.

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Tim November 22, 2011 at 15:25

@Uncle Elmer,

Please don’t leave the Spearhead. Don’t even change your avatar. I don’t know who you are, sir, but I need to read your comments like a junky need smack. When you don’t comment, I suffer. Keep ‘em coming, please.

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Gilgamesh November 22, 2011 at 16:03

Ugh, let me guess, David Deangelo is going to spend the majority of his sham marriage getting assfucked by random men, then in five years he’ll get assfucked by his wife’s divorce lawyer. If that’s how PUA works I’d rather pay in cash.

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Jaego Scorzne November 22, 2011 at 16:33

Agree. The Right lost the Culture War hand down. Once this was the case, the Churches should have become “underground” and withdrawn from public institutions such as civil marriage. But they could’t do it – they loved the world too much. Didn’t want to give up their tax free status. Sad since early Christianity thrived under such opposition and the Church survived Communism in the same way.

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Arpagus November 22, 2011 at 17:01

@ PUA Officially Out of Closet

Granted his wife looks like a transsexual and all, but I can’t find any evidence in those links that David DeAngelo is gay. Did you just make that up? Are you sure he’s not just peacocking or something in that nipples pic?

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Uncle Elmer November 22, 2011 at 19:34

Tomorrow in Forbes Woman :

Can I Still Be A Feminist If I…?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/hannahwoit/2011/11/22/can-i-still-be-a-feminist-if-i/

Elmer helps her out :

You are hopelessly confused thanks to your feminist brainwarshing. You need to drop this vague mental notion that what you somehow believe other people (“society”) expects of you is something you should answer to.

Not only should you make your boyfriend a sandwich, and a damned good one, you should serve it to him while wearing something that accentuates your feminine beauty as well as some nice perfume. After that, give him a massage, at least 2 hours.

Perhaps think about some cooking classes. When you go to a restaurant together, observe what he likes and make it for him. He’ll like that a lot. And what he thinks and feels is far more important than those phantom feminist goon squads you got running around in your head.

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Carnivore November 22, 2011 at 19:41

I followed the links to the article “Dude, Where’s Your Bride?” and the 200 + comments (comments closed now).

All I can say is how ignorant and blind this pastor and the majority of those commenting are. Of course, the women fall lock step with the herd, but the white knights are disgusting.

They should keep on hammering young men – MAN UP, MAN UP, MAN UP!!!!!!! Then, maybe in a decade, their congregation will be like a typical new order RC parish – a sea of white hair, mostly female.

Shows the marriage strike is working. The next 10 years should be interesting.

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Craig Himself November 22, 2011 at 19:42

@Elmer, I love you, man.

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Carnivore November 22, 2011 at 19:48

“Elmer helps her out :”

Elmer, you were too gentle with Hannah.

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richard November 22, 2011 at 19:53

If you read the bio of the person who wrote that article referenced by Elmer, it tells you everything to know about the decline of society.

I’m surprised she has time to write for Forbes; I thought she would be busy getting rogured by a homeless bongoist at the nearby occupy (bowel) movement. You know, whinging about how her Culture and Politics degree cost her too much.

I thought a human brain required oxygen to function, but apparently a good supply of helium is all that is needed.

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Davd November 22, 2011 at 20:54

Jaego Scorzne, I concur “overall” that ..
“… the Churches should have become ‘underground’ and withdrawn from public institutions such as civil marriage. But they could’t do it – they loved the world too much. Didn’t want to give up their tax free status. Sad since early Christianity thrived under such opposition and the Church survived Communism in the same way.”

Perhaps “underground” is a continuous variable rather than all-or-none. Perhaps there was more that some churches wanted to keep, than just tax treatment.

For instance, would the tax benefits be lost if [let's call it the "Free Lutherodox Church"] simply came to a policy decision that marriage which is not for life, is not Christian [to me this is obviously true]; and thus, the FLC would marry couples who entered into a lifetime, enforceable commitment (approximately what i thought i was entering-into in 1962) consistent with their doctrine, but would not make it a “civil marriage”?

I can imagine myself if i were a FLC Elder, working to compose a statement of the general form: “The Free Lutherodox Church will not entangle its people in any civil status that reduces the lifetime character of the marriage commitment.” The connection of doctrine [marriage must be for life] and practice [we will not enter into civil arrangements that are effectively short-term] should protect the FLC’s “tax status as a religion”.

Whether or not the Tax Collector would punish keeping the faith (which might vary from one ‘nation-state’ to another), the FLC would have a clearer sense of identity than most other churches (or the Government.) It would have far less need to hire labour, and to spend money generally, because it would be back in the pattern of mutual-help giving and volunteering that in my observations anyhow, characterizes the Christian Faith when it is authentic.

Actions speak louder than words, goes the old folk-saying. This is my quick effort to put “I’m not that kind of church. I’m the kind which actually values marriage. You can trust me” into action.

Heck, i might actually advise my unmarried son to marry in the FLC, if it existed.

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Uncle Elmer November 22, 2011 at 21:00

I was gone for a few days, traveled back east to visit the folks. No internet. Three days of loud TV. Tough cop chick shows, lady lawyer shows, lady doctor shows, lady decomposed-body investigator shows. White ladies in charge, black dudes supporting, white guys either annoying or tolerably obedient. Many commercials showing smart ladies chowing on their canned soup and gettin’ shit done. Fecal decompaction remedies. “…and the next presidential spouse fashion show might just be for a man, The First Man! This is Andrea Mitchell signing off…”

Hilite was catching some Lawrence Welk. Seemed so quaint back in the day but now recognize the awesome talent. And you know from the smirk on the accordian player’s face that he was just slaughtering the women.

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Zorro November 22, 2011 at 22:30

This may or may not resonate with the previous posts, but as I am currently reading Willpower: Rediscovering the Greatest Human Strength, by Roy F. Baumeister and John Tierney, I thought it would illuminate the already spirited discussion:

Confirmed by studies conducted amongst heroin addicts in Burlington, Vermont, addictive behaviors (tobacco, heroin, alcohol, etc.) correlated very strongly with a predisposition for short-term goal-setting. People who have strong nicotine, alcohol or even heroin dependencies view their lives according to a short-term goal-setting paradigm.

It’s on pages 68 & 69 from the book. Fascinating stuff!

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TFH November 22, 2011 at 23:55

Uncle Elmer,

My god – isn’t Forbes supposed to be a business publication?

Articles about how women burn out by 30 are bad enough, but articles like this have no connection to working or business by any stretch – pathetic.

Feminism, far from helping women, have made basic female inferiority far more visible. This is partly because feminism teaches women to advertise their inferiority.

I am glad you are teaching those hags regular lessons….

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AlphA November 23, 2011 at 01:10

@David DeAngelo

Of all the women he could have chosen….

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keyster November 23, 2011 at 07:46

“And you know from the smirk on the accordian player’s face that he was just slaughtering the women.”

Myron Floren was probably the best accordian player to have ever lived. Even though Welk himself was not much of an accordian player (or musician for that matter), the musicians he hired were always top-notch. “Now for my accordion solo; Myron, will you join me?”, was a standard line he used in almost every show.

Once you’re able to hear past the old fogey “champagne music” format and listen to the band and soloists, you then realize just how great they were. Music purists would understand.

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Uncle Elmer November 23, 2011 at 09:33

Thanks for backing me up on this controversial issue Keyster.

Other striking things about the Welk show is the focus on the old geezers dancing and enjoying themselves, and the top-notch musicians jamming without a hint of the self-absorbed idolatry so prevalent in today’s musical performances.

It’s why Cambodian dance videos are so appealing; it’s all about the dancers, with the revered, though modest, singers and musicians cast as supporting the common culture. One never sees them engaging in ego-centric or immodest behavior.

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Uncle Elmer November 23, 2011 at 10:59

Commenting on my own comment “Many commercials showing smart ladies chowing on their canned soup and gettin’ shit done.”

Today on “usatoday” :

BPA levels spiked after eating canned soup

http://yourlife.usatoday.com/fitness-food/diet-nutrition/story/2011-11-23/BPA-levels-spiked-after-eating-canned-soup/51368968/1?csp=ylf

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Survivorman November 23, 2011 at 13:07

+1 Elmer – for taking the battle to the front lines!

And re: Broadcast TV – As someone who canceled his CATV service a few years ago, I understand completely. Quite shocking to watch, after an extended period of *not* watching..

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Uncle Elmer November 23, 2011 at 13:13

FBI arrests 7 Amish men on hate-crime charges

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2011/11/fbi-arrests-7-amish-men-on-hate-crime-charges-.html

FBI agents on Wednesday raided an Ohio compound and arrested seven Amish men on hate charges in connection with haircutting attacks on other members of the usually isolated Christian religion.

At the center of the splinter group is Samuel Mullet Sr.,… charged with conspiring to carry out a series of assaults over the last few months on Amish men and women, cutting off their beards and head hair with scissors and battery-powered clippers.

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oddsock November 23, 2011 at 14:05

On a lighter note

YOU KNOW YOU ARE LIVING IN 2011 when…

1. You accidentally enter your PIN on the microwave.

2. You haven’t played solitaire with real cards in years.

3. You have a list of 15 phone numbers to reach your family
of three.

4. You e-mail the person who works at the desk next to you.

5. Your reason for not staying in touch with friends and family is that they don’t have e-mail addresses.

6. You pull up in your own driveway and use your mobile phone to see if anyone is home to help you carry in the groceries…

7. Every commercial on television has a web site at the bottom
of the screen

8. Leaving the house without your mobile phone, which you didn’t even have the first 20 or 30 (or 60) years of your life, is now a cause for panic and you turn around to go and get it

10. You get up in the morning and go on line before getting
your coffee

11. You start tilting your head sideways to smile. : )

12 You’re reading this and nodding and laughing.

13. Even worse, you know exactly to whom you are going to forward this message.

14. You are too busy to notice there was no 9 on this list.

15. You actually scrolled back up to check that there wasn’t
a 9 on this list

~~~~~~~~~~~AND FINALLY~~~~~ ~~~~~~~

NOW U R LAUGHING at yourself.

Go on, forward this to your friends.
You know you want to!
And stop trying to lick your elbow!

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Eric November 23, 2011 at 14:12

Addiction is not the problem: education is. When women are educated to see men as inferiors, they will do their best to prove it by their actions: emasculating good men and chasing thugs. That’s not ‘addiction’; it’s following a compulsion to denigrate and devalue men because they have been taught to do so.

As far men go, it’s absurd to talk about ‘addiction’ in relationships. Men in our culture are so socially disenfranchised as to be practically powerless in a male/female relationship. Not only that, but worthwhile ‘choices’ of a suitable woman for a relationship are so scarce that men cannot even be said to have a ‘choice’.

When other men talk of preferences, I just shake my head. What difference does it make if I prefer tall or petite; blondes, brunettes, or redheads? Do my preferences matter in the least to these bitches? Of course not. It’s like asking a man in some famine-stricken part of the world whether he likes his steak well-done or rare; or what his favorite pizza toppings are. If he can actually eat at all, he feels ‘lucky’.

That’s a similar attitude that most non-MRA men feel towards relationships, whether they want to admit it or not. They feel ‘lucky’ to have anyone at all; and if she actually has ANY redeeming qualities, they’ll overlook everything else. This is no way to carry on a relationship; but it’s what our culture forces down our throats. To hell with that—abandon the Amerobitch and seek an alternative! Men deserve far better than what they’re being offered—and their only real ‘choice’ is to stay in this dysfunctional morass known as the US ‘relationship market’ or get out and save their own necks.

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oddsock November 23, 2011 at 14:44

Paul Craig Roberts

GOP debate is a collection of stupidity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3Y73ZRIlXA

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Carnivore November 23, 2011 at 15:38

@keyster
“Once you’re able to hear past the old fogey “champagne music” format and listen to the band and soloists, you then realize just how great they were. Music purists would understand.”

Yes, although I’d add that the earlier broadcasts are significantly better than the later ones, with the black and white ones from the 50′s being exceptional. To improve his ratings, Welk started hiring more and more vocalists towards the end of the 60′s until it went off the air – the aging audience apparently got a thrill with each new young face.

I never liked Joanne Castle – every piece sounded the same. Now Big Tiny Little Junior – there’s a ragtime piano player:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRFiyM5aSAA

And let’s not forget that superb clarinetist, Pete Fountain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8H5nlio2fo A goatee was rad on network TV in 1957.

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Carnivore November 23, 2011 at 16:02

@Survivorman
“And re: Broadcast TV – As someone who canceled his CATV service a few years ago, I understand completely. Quite shocking to watch, after an extended period of *not* watching.”

The ME-TV and ME-Too-TV based here in Chicago also make an interesting comparison since they rerun shows from the 50′s and 60′s like 77 Sunset Strip, Peter Gunn, Perry Mason – all shows which portray men in a favorable light instead of clowns with women saving the day. The characters Suzanne and Della were classy, feminine ladies. And then there’s Rifleman – widower raising his son alone.

Anyone who watches the typical male doofus on TV or in the crime shows where the men stand around and the women save the day would be in for a shock watching some of those old shows.

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Boxer November 23, 2011 at 17:29

I’m always amazed at the strange phenomenon of people who otherwise advocate for men’s issues siding with a slimy, thoroughly evil institution like the Christian church.

The hero of Christianity was a mangina, born of a single mom, who didn’t know his father. He first saved a whore from stoning, and then washed her feet in another part of the narrative. The hero, of course, never truly existed, but even as a fairy tale he’s the sort of scumbag that no man of any worth would have anything to do with.

Throughout history, no organization more thoroughly stomped on men than the Christian church, be it Catholic or Protestant. Study the truth my brothers, and see the shameful crimes this filthy structure has inaugurated. Shaming men into marriage to unfaithful whores is not a new phenomenon. The Christian church has adhered to this form of abuse since its inception.

May its death come quickly.

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TFH November 23, 2011 at 18:03

Uncle Elmer,

When you comment on ForbesWoman, you may want to include links of Spearhead articles written in rebuttal to other Forbes Woman articles, like this recent one on how women burn out at 30 :

http://www.the-spearhead.com/2011/11/17/professional-women-burning-out-by-30/

This will drive them nuts to see that ‘mysoginists’ are making fun of them.

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Avenger November 23, 2011 at 19:35

Elmer, you mean like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Xi94SWHI3M&feature=related

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Avenger November 23, 2011 at 19:39
American November 23, 2011 at 23:18

Are American law enforcement addicted to federal Pork bloating dollars?? Is it constitutional for American law enforcement to be using protocol perversions and semantics games to manufacture Empowerment rhetoric for the American Gender-raunch community??,
I don’t believe its constitutional to be using federal dollars given to law enforcement to (Manufacture statistics) that Empower Gender-Raunch over all other political sects.

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American November 24, 2011 at 04:41

http://www.fathersandfamilies.org/?p=21315

I was just reading over at fathers and families about the dungeon matriarch who kept retarded people chained in her basement to collect their social security checks.
I wander what the Gender-Raunch academic elite think about this benevolent matriarch??

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American November 24, 2011 at 05:00

Academic Gender-Raunch perversion of our courts, Perversion of law enforcement (manufactured statistics), and perversion of our universities have “constructed” a society that lets these violent barbarian women slide under the radar so she can chain retarded people in her dungeon to collect their social security checks.
My high school was dominated by violent barbaric matriarchs, who ran the school by fomenting mob like attacks. I believe women had a much larger role in the mob/rape lynchings of the black man than what American Gender-Raunch Quackademics are telling us.

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Avenger November 24, 2011 at 05:45

Dalrock-you’re using the term addiction too broadly just like practically anything today from “child porn” to “rape” to DV is being used for trivial stuff and things that are not even illegal and may just be something that some wacko feminist or female doesn’t like and pushes some prosecutor to get the guy on some trumped up charge and since there are a million statutes you can always find something. Nudity in itself is not porn which must involve some sex act. Men have even been prosecuted for having a pic of a girl fully clothed and even over the age of consent, which means he could have sex with her if he wanted, because in the mind of some freak DA the girl was posing provocatively or looked younger (that’s still not a crime) So what we have is a complete perversion of the law where men who have violated no statute are being sent to jail. That’s a police state where laws mean nothing or can mean anything a DA says it is. The reason we have written statues is so that everyone knows what the law is.
“Addiction” has also been expanded to include almost anything. Medically an addiction is when a person takes a substance (other than food or water) a number of times and then has an uncontrolable compulsion to keep doing it.A strong desire to do things in not an addiction and the key word is Compulsion.
The tern addiction is used by females as an excuse for their bad behaviour and lack of self control. Hey, I’m ill and a foodaholic which is why I’ a tub of lard or I spent all of my money on clothes because I’m a sick shopaholic etc lol

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Uncle Elmer November 24, 2011 at 07:47

Avenger November 23, 2011 at 19:35

Elmer, you mean like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Xi94SWHI3M&feature=related

————————————-

Incredible. And what is more balls than the theme from “Fists of Fury”?

Ballroom dancing is big in China. You will find people dancing in the parks or at nightclubs, where it is not unusual to see some Chinese Elmer cuttin the rug with the young hotties.

By coincidence while visiting my folks pulled a book off the shelf “The Soong Dynasty” by Sterling Sinclair. It’s about a 10-yo Chinese boy who came to America in the 1800′s and was adopted and educated by a Confederate millionaire (Julian Carr). This was a time of horrific persecution of Chinese in America. The kid adopts the name “Charlie Soong” and returns to China as a Methodist missionary, then starts a publishing business and becomes the wealthiest man in the world. His children also attained great wealth and influence in China during the 20th century.

My son Hermann took and interest when I brought the book home and started reading. His grandfather was born in San Francisco in 1909 and talked occaisionally about the Chinese Triads and Tong wars, covered in some detail in the book. I am hoping Hermann see the pleasure in reading great history vs. jamming on the video games 14 hours a day.

Also I thumbed through a book “Barbarians at the Gate” about the fall of RJR Nabisco and another about human evolution. Amazing what can happen when you are deprived of the internet.

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Call Me Dave November 24, 2011 at 08:21

The hero of Christianity was a mangina, born of a single mom, who didn’t know his father. He first saved a whore from stoning, and then washed her feet in another part of the narrative. The hero, of course, never truly existed, but even as a fairy tale he’s the sort of scumbag that no man of any worth would have anything to do with.

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Boxer, have you even read the Bible?

He had a father, Joseph was mentioned at the birth and later he and Mary went to look for him in the Temple (Luke 2:39-52).

Yes, he saved a prostitute from stoning. He never washed her feet, you are confused with two other narratives. She washed his feet, dried them with her hair and anointed them with expensive perfume. Hardly something feminists would advocate. Jesus washed the feet of his disciples as an object lesson at another time.

He was hardly a mangina. Read the story of him clearing the temple with a whip. Personally, I prefer Who Would Jesus Whip (WWJW) rather than What Would Jesus Do (WWJD) as a slogan.

The Church has its faults, but Jesus did not.

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keyster November 24, 2011 at 08:42

“They feel ‘lucky’ to have anyone at all;…”

This is very true. How often do we hear anyone proclaim, “She’s so lucky to have such a great man!”. He’s “lucky” because a woman has “selected” him among all the other suitors. He has been chosen as the one she’ll sacrifice herself for, so that his genes may be passed on long after his death. Oh joy!

He’s been blessed with social affirmation that thy holy woman has validated him as a mate worthy male. He owes her now, and will be paying her back for the rest of his life, through perpetual “yes dears”, “honey do’s” and slaving away at some monotonous, soul destroying daily grind —

– and this is only IF she decides he’s worth keeping around once the children are weened or of age to be raised in public education daycare centers. It’s then that she considers exhalted single motherhood as a viable option, where she can claim “independence”, while his monthly check arrives via some county services department (after their 8% cut for providing said service, keeping female clerks busy “administrating”).

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The Troll King November 24, 2011 at 18:15

OT but I think you guys will like this if you haven’t seen it yet.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/19/sports/boys-swimming-on-girls-teams-find-success-then-draw-ire.html?_r=1&ref=karencrouse&pagewanted=all

Basically boys are now having to swim on girls teams and are beating the girls records and women are pissed.

How do you like them equalities?

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Boxer November 24, 2011 at 22:00

Dear Call Me Dave:

I’m not a bible scholar, but you’re flatly wrong about Joseph being the father. He was the mangina chump that the slut Mary got to “pay for someone else’s fun”. The Christian church is the cult of the single mom.

He was hardly a mangina. Read the story of him clearing the temple with a whip. Personally, I prefer Who Would Jesus Whip (WWJW) rather than What Would Jesus Do (WWJD) as a slogan.

See, that’s the thing. Your reading of the text is no more or less valid than the manginas and faggots in the churches, who spew divorce porn and pedestalize women. Jesus never existed in history, but if people like yourself (and Dalrock, etc.) were running things, I would probably be a secular Christian type myself.

I like your reading, but the prevailing reading is one in which movies like Fireproof are sold to the sheeple who suck all the man hating propaganda down. People like you should be helping to fight against Christianity, not trying to prop it up.

Islam is on the upswing in a huge way. So is Buddhism in some places (some cities of North America are actually seeing White people building temples). Maybe we can go protect these religions, but Christianity is toast, just like AmerICKa.

You’re a smart guy, by the way. I like to argue the issues with sharp wits. If you want to discuss this in private, you can get my email from the admin (and he has my permission to give it to you). Peace Boxer.

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Ray Manta November 24, 2011 at 23:07

The Troll King wrote:
Basically boys are now having to swim on girls teams and are beating the girls records and women are pissed.

I read something like that about boys who had joined a girls’ high-school lacrosse team. The prospect of having to deal with a 6′, 200+ lb. mass of muscle was downright terrifying for the poor little womyn. The author of the article of course chastized the boys for being unmanly. But I think they would have been happy enough to join the boys’ team if one had been available.

How do you like them equalities?

Title IX can be a bitch. But so is Mother Nature.

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Zorro November 24, 2011 at 23:36

Re Troll King’s NYT article about boys on girls swim teams: You take away Daddy Gov’t intrusion, fembots’ restructuring of the education system and affirmative action/Title 8 Diversity hiring…and guess what?

Men will smoke your fucking asses.

When women win a rigged game, this whole country loses.

Welcome to The Suck.

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Rmaxd November 25, 2011 at 03:04

“He had a father, Joseph was mentioned at the birth and later he and Mary went to look for him in the Temple (Luke 2:39-52).”

Erm no Jesus had NO biological father, virgin birth …

So technically Jesus was raised by a single mother, he had a stepfather not a biological dad

& yes Jesus did protect prostitutes from stoning, & let them wash his feet ….

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Avenger November 25, 2011 at 03:18

@ call me Dave

He had a father, Joseph was mentioned at the birth and later he and Mary went to look for him in the Temple (Luke 2:39-52).

I thought that the Holy Ghost was Jesus’ father. At any rate, Joseph must have had another wife because James was his son from another marriage and Jesus’ older step brother.

‘Read the story of him clearing the temple with a whip’

That was actually quite stupid because the moneychangers were merely perfrming a service in the days when there was no standard currency so that people would have something of cmmon value when they made offerings at the temple.

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Rmaxd November 25, 2011 at 06:29

“I thought that the Holy Ghost was Jesus’ father. At any rate, Joseph must have had another wife because James was his son from another marriage and Jesus’ older step brother.”

LOL thats hilarious, Jesus was born to a two timing, polygamous family

lmao

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Anonymous November 25, 2011 at 07:35

Hi Boxer,

I enjoyed reading your reply.

In this case, I would hardly describe Joseph as a mangina chump. He as not raising another man’s child from an adulterous affair. He was given charge of raising up Jesus – God made man, or if you prefer the more poetic definition from John 1, “The Word became Flesh”. Joseph was visited by an angel beforehand that laid out the whole deal. He was in no way decieved bu God or Mary.

Avenger

Most contemporary Bible Scholars agree that Jesus did not empty the Temple of animals and money changers because they were dishonest, and I agree with you, they were providing a necessary service. The issue at hand is that they were set up in the Court of the Gentiles. Which meant that there was no space for non Jews to worship at the temple. (The Bible speaks of non Jews worshipping God often in the Old Testament, but most people do not realise this). Jesus came to be the savior of all, not just the Jews. Jesus explains his actions by referring to the Old Testament writings in Mal 3:1-3, Psa 69:9 and more subtly, Zech 14:21. This was not about money, it was about Gentiles being hindered in their worship of God.

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They Call Me Dave November 25, 2011 at 08:02

HI Boxer,
Thanks for the response.
I would hardly describe Joseph as a deceived husband raising another man’s bastard child, he was blessed with raising God made man, or if you prefer the more poetic language of John 1 “The Word became Flesh”.
He received word from God that Mary was pregnant through the Holy Spirit and had not been unfaithful. His decision to raise Jesus was voluntary, he had full information and was not deceived.

Avenger
The emptying of the temple is often misunderstood. Most contemporary Bible scholars believe that Jesus cleared the temple of vendors not so much because of what they were doing, but because of where they were doing it. They would have been doing their business in the Gentile Court. Non Jews commonly worshipped God, even in the Old Testament and this area was reserved for them. Jesus removed the vendors not because of what they were doing, but because they were interfering with the Gentile’s worship of God.

I would like to talk about Feminism in the Church and Fireproof, but I will do that in another post so that I do not get create an “Unreadable Wall of Text”

Full disclosure – Although I am not a Bible Scholar either, I am currently doing a Master’s Degree in Theological Studies. This, along with my family and full time job keep me pretty busy!

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They Call Me Dave November 25, 2011 at 08:03

Feminism in the Church

Movies like Fireproof definitely do not do Christian Men any favours, they are designed for consumption by women and are basically, a thinly disguised romance novel in my mind.

The role of women in the Church is very well spelled out in scripture. I will just pull out one reference for brevity though. 1Timothy 12 states “But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

Not very politically correct is it? Unfortunately, the feminist movement(who I believed is influenced by Satan, the father of all lies)s has deceived women by telling them “If it feels good do it”. This has led women into profound disobedience to God. The fruits of this are clear to see, rejected husbands, broken homes, record divorce, skyrocketing STD rates, mass killing of the unborn. Who but Satan could convince people that a baby in the womb is not a baby? If women did not rebel against the authority of men, these events would not have unfolded in the way they did.

I do feel the need to criticize Christian Men in this post as well. Men are tasked to be the heads of our households and leaders of our wives and children. When feminism arose, men were also deceived and allowed the evil to propagate. There was virtually no male pushback against feminism and feminism overwhelmed us and the Church.

There needs to be a real revival within Christianity. Men need to read the scriptures and be aware of what they say about men and the leadership of men. Feminism needs to be combated; women need to be brought back under the leadership of men and western civilization restored.

The MRM movement has started down this path and this is a good thing. I think it is a mistake to write of Christianity though. Christianity, if reformed by men from within, would be a real ally to the MRM. We are already seeing mass bleeding from liberal Churches in favour of more conservative ones. Men are discontented with the Church and know something is wrong, this is a great time to initiate change.

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Rocco November 25, 2011 at 09:33

I think we all can agree that women behave in a herd like manner.

We can also agree that Ms. Magazine gave the walking instructions to a few generations of the female human herd.

At the time I didn’t realize that these are how the heard learns to think as they can’t think for themselves.

So, here we have a huff po video of what young twenty something females are being told by their older female editors/publishers is what “Love” is in 2011.

FYI if you recall, in 1970 is was never having to say your sorry, in the 1980′s men didn’t even figure as diamonds were a girls best friend but now we see that it’s all biochemical and really they psychiatrists meds that 1/4 of women are on are responsible for how they fee.

For once….men are not even in the equation….babies yes, men…..not so much.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/25/lets-talk-about-sex-the-science-of-love_n_1111190.html

Do when she asks you if you’ll buy her that car to prove you love her, tell, her you just need a blood test and she can be sure, then save the money and find our if she’s a gold digger.

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Robert November 25, 2011 at 10:05

Sin; something women, via Eve, learned/caused first
Addiction; wmoen have their addictions. They also know and understand men have their addictions. One addiction many men have, which feminists and women use against/exploit men for is sex. Another is love/companionship, or some simblince (sp?) of love/companionship.
Abondonment;
Divorce/child support.

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Boxer November 25, 2011 at 10:19

Rmaxd:

I remember as a little boy realizing that all these stories were ridiculous. I must have been about 6 or 7.

Jesus is the son of God, but Jesus is God. God is everyone’s father. Doesn’t that mean Jesus had sex with his daughter and then got shat out her snatch 9 months later? And how about the holy spirit, which is a spook but also God. Is God also his own grandson?

If the devil causes so much trouble, why doesn’t God just kill the devil and be done with it? Either he won’t , which makes God evil and in cahoots with Satan, or he can’t, which means Satan is the one who is in charge and on top. Either way, we should probably be praying to Satan, since he’s the ultimate authority in the world.

These and many other thoughts went through little Boxer’s mind as a wee lad, until he finally realized that the whole thing is a sham, which no intelligent person could possibly take seriously. It was created to control the gullible masses, and control them it does.

If it were a good control, which promoted justice and fairness and decency, I would have no problem with this. In fact, it is not. Christianity has slaughtered far more people than the communists, nazis and Americans combined. In one war, it depopulated Germany by 35% (the thirty years war). Neither Hitler nor Stalin nor Roosevelt ever accomplished such slaughter.

Christ is the demon behind all the afflictions that beset mankind, and the sooner we get rid of this single mom cult, the better we men will be. At this point it’s in its death throes, and wants to take the whole lot of us with it into oblivion.

Best, Boxer

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The Troll King November 25, 2011 at 10:30

Here are some more links of interest:

Two for this story:

Apparently a six year old boy has been charged with first degree sexual assault for playing doctor with a 5 yr old girl. Not only does this story have misandry but judicial ethics violations and female prosecutors and relatives who work in the social services office and even better seems to be politically motivated.

http://reason.com/blog/2011/11/23/parents-sue-da-for-charging-their-6-year

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-lawsuit-filed-by-parents-of-boy-6-accused-of-sexual-assault-20111118,0,6903862.story

This story is so fucked up in so many ways, I don’t really know what to say.

I also thought this was a interesting article, titled, “Woman Up.”

http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2011/11/3937

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Eric November 25, 2011 at 13:21

Keyster:

We hear this appeal to ‘luck’ all the time, unfortunately. I well remember, in my pre-MRM days when I was still ignorant enough to date American women, hearing all the time how ‘luck’ played a factor in everything. It’s part of the same social indoctrination that proclaims women as the ‘owners of sex’ and ‘having all the power in relationships.’ Men are conditioned in our culture to a sort of learned helplessness where everything depends on fate; or the female’s whims.

Part of the liberating factor in the MRM for me has been learning that men DO have power and DO have options; and all this crap about ‘luck’; learning ‘techniques’; and all the other various pychobabble goes out the window. When I first came in with the MRM, the feeling I had was similar to those I’ve read of people who got out of religious cults. The US relationship is a hell for men; and the sooner they get out of it, the better.

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Tom936 November 25, 2011 at 14:04

I don’t usually OT post, but this news doesn’t seem to have been posted on Spearhead yet so here it is.

Lawsuit filed by parents of boy, 6, accused of sexual assault
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-lawsuit-filed-by-parents-of-boy-6-accused-of-sexual-assault-20111118,0,6903862.story

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Nico November 26, 2011 at 00:09

I hope Bill is alright.

OT: From now on in Peru, when a man kills his partner, it’s a “femicide”, which is an aggravating circumstance to the homicide and entails a minimum sentence of 15 years in jail.

If it is the woman who kills the man, it’s simply a homicide. No aggravating circumstance, no minimal sentence.

Most countries in South America have passed similar laws in recent years.

http://www.focus-fen.net/?id=n264846

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Carnivore November 26, 2011 at 04:59

@They Call Me Dave:
“If women did not rebel against the authority of men, these events would not have unfolded in the way they did.
I do feel the need to criticize Christian Men in this post as well. Men are tasked to be the heads of our households and leaders of our wives and children. ”

Dave, the theology behind it is quite simple. The result of original sin, or the “fall” if you prefer, is that mankind has a tendency to do evil which is the opposite of the will of God.

God wants men to be leaders in their families. The opposite is not leading – letting someone else lead. And guess who that “someone else” is?

God wants women to submit to their husbands. What’s the opposite? Not submitting, rebelling and taking the leadership role. And guess who gets displaced as leader?

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Carnivore November 26, 2011 at 05:01

We haven’t heard from Bill in a few days. I hope Wednesday went well.

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Somehow Somewhat November 26, 2011 at 05:37
Rocco November 26, 2011 at 08:00

I’m sure he’s recovering from the cumulatively burdensome family court procededings that now mark our childrens transitions in life as communion and confirmation used to mark them in the Catholic Church I was raised in.

They both charge for it but the Priests are cheaper and it’s alot more fun. Plus it brought people together, created god parents who could be counted on in times of trouble and other family bonds.

Family, remember that?

This is what feminists mean when whey say thay wants what’s best for the children. They want mom to be able to do this…..but even they see the damage this does to kids so now they just want to outlaw fatherhood on the basis of the opinion of the mother.

Such is the new law in Australia.

Take a rest Welmer, your kids are still very young, this is a marathon.

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Avenger November 26, 2011 at 09:20

Men are conditioned in our culture to a sort of learned helplessness where everything depends on fate; or the female’s whims.

Well, I’m older and never learned any of that. I don’t believe in fate or luck, you make your own luck. It’s that docile pussy whipped attitude that harms many men. People, especially females, sense weakness and it is their animal nature to dominate that kicks in to take advantage of you. Females are a lot like children and are always testing how much they can get away with. In Nature, the male is the leader and dominant one and the female is the submissive(normal females actually like being submissive because that is their nature vis a vis men)
And btw, I’m not suggesting that you completely dominate or use physical force to control females but there are plenty of subtle ways that experienced men use to let a female know he’s the boss.

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Casha R November 26, 2011 at 10:14

Whether it is caused by human being’s natural desire to procreate as much as possible or the Devil himself tempting us, addiction to sex a written pornography is a self-destructing behavior as well as a relationship killer. I know because my ex’s addiction led to the breakup of our 12 year marriage.

And I seriously doubt that the Devil made my ex do it.

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Rocco November 26, 2011 at 10:35

OT

It’s like the social welfare system for the other half of the average trailer farm family is being eyed for cuts by the GOP.

After years of creating increasingingly lengthy concentration camps for men we call prisons, the GOP thinks we’re creating a prison state.

From Newt Gingrich, Presidential candidate:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/conrad-black/us-justice-system_b_1110623.html

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oddsock November 26, 2011 at 11:30

Casha R

“And I seriously doubt that the Devil made my ex do it.”

Maybe he just did not find you attractive anymore ? Or perhaps he just became tired of you using sex as a control and punishment mechanism ? That is what kills many relationships, my little lotus blossom, but rather than women having any ( honest ) self refelection they project the blame on the guy. Usually we find the more extreme the excuse she makes up, the more likely it is that she has the problem, not him.

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E November 26, 2011 at 11:57

The Troll King wrote:

Basically boys are now having to swim on girls teams and are beating the girls records and women are pissed.

I think the “solution” is to do nothing. A society that degenerates to the point where boys are competing on girls swim teams and girls are competing on boys wrestling teams is so far removed from reality, collapse is only a matter of when not if. Furthermore let the rest of the non-feminized world look at us and laugh because to be blunt we deserve it.

I don’t subscribe to an ideology that says we should try to fix the system. Instead I think it is best we just let it collapse under its own weight and then it can be rebuilt. The advantages of building from scratch is you’re NOT encumbered by all the stupid crap (institutions, interest groups, ideology) that was responsible for crashing the previous system. Basically you get to start off with a clean slate.

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MWPeak November 26, 2011 at 13:03

@Boxer

The hero of Christianity was a mangina, born of a single mom, who didn’t know his father. He first saved a whore from stoning, and then washed her feet in another part of the narrative.

I would submit that the women in biblical times knew more about meekness and submission than the current feminist generation.

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Art Vandelay November 26, 2011 at 13:05

Hah love the religious discussion. I think the New Testament is just a cuckolding gone wrong. The “virgin” Mary got pregnant and used the excuse that the holy ghost impregnated her on the gullible Joseph. She stuck to the lie and it got so terribly out of hand of course and now we have the Christian religion.

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Bryan November 26, 2011 at 19:36

Wow, I just read the plot of Fireproof, what a garbage white knight, mangina movie.

So not only does the whore expect her husband to part with all of his money for HER mother (why doesn’t she work to support her own mother?) she feels justified in dating a rich doctor because she thinks her husband has a porn problem? Maybe if she wasn’t ignoring him and giving her attention to other men he wouldn’t have to look at it online.

What a crappy POS movie, and this trite was lauded as an excellent film by the mangina mainstream Churchianity crowd?

A woman can divorce her husband because he looks at naked women online? She can go on dates with other men? Yet he still has to prove he is good enough FOR HER by giving away $24,000 dollars?

She’s not fit to shine his shoes or shovel his shit!

If your wife is going on a date with another man you might as well tell him to keep her, he’s doing you a favor by taking the whore off your hands!

That’s the truth of the matter, almost all women want to bail on marriage the instant they believe they have a better deal somewhere else.

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Boxer November 26, 2011 at 21:48

Dear Art:

Yup, that’s exactly the way it is, too! Mary, the archetype for every teenage truck stop whore who does her damndest to piss off daddy by coming home pregnant at age 14, claiming that she doesn’t know who the father was. She then saddles a poor sap (Joseph) with the bills and surely continues to fuck and suck every badboy in town on the side while he is busting his ass to pay for the kid that isn’t even his in a biological sense. You’ll note that in the text he gets no thanks or credit for doing this, either.

Jesus, the mangina faggot who goes on camping trips with other men for weeks at a time, and slums around with whores when he does wander his shiftless ass back into town. He tells us not to work or provide for ourselves, and to “think not for the morrow”.

These are the two pieces of shit who are held up as the heroes of this pathetic cult. Is it really any surprise that Christian whores are promoting shit like this fireproof movie?

Decent brothers like Dalrock, Call Me Dave and others ought to just scoff at this nonsense. If you absolutely must believe in some mythology or fairy tale, Buddha works. He told his disciples to never trust anything out of a bitches mouth which is much better advice than the mangina Jesus ever gave to all his homosexual saints.

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Handy Pride November 28, 2011 at 18:35

Gentlemen,
here’s a little activist flyer idea (adopted from homosexual community and a bit re-engineered) that might help to promote our struggle for sexual emancipation (or at least give gender studies scholars something to think about and menstruate over):

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/bcb55

kindly dedicated to the loving memory of
Quiet Riot Girl ;)

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Firepower November 29, 2011 at 09:45

Dulrock

I assume everyone reading this knows exactly what I’m talking about. The Church’s addiction for grooms is a not well kept secret.

Damn straight, bro. I never knew The Church was “addicted to grooms” until your thought-provoking original observations on addiction convinced me.

I don’t think it was a stretch, at all.

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Firepower December 4, 2011 at 10:01

Dulrock

I assume everyone reading this knows exactly what I’m talking about. The Church’s addiction for grooms is a not well kept secret.

Ah, we MUSTN’T offend the black because they’ve done so many wonderful things in the west.

Offending THEM, would fragment mrm and reduce the number of our allies. Just offend the church – not to many of them. No blacks in church.

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