In days past, when male politicians were accused of sexual misconduct, they would only issue denials, and let others take care of the character attacks on accusers. Bill Clinton, for example, never said much about the women who accused him of using his position as governor of Arkansas to have affairs with numerous women, instead allowing James Carville to make remarks on TV about trolling trailer parks with $20 bills.
Clarence Thomas, for his part, cast his ordeal as part of a “high-tech lynching,” and likewise avoided taking Anita Hill on directly, saying:
This is not an opportunity to talk about difficult matters privately or in a closed environment. This is a circus. It’s a national disgrace. And from my standpoint, as a black American, it is a high-tech lynching for uppity blacks who in any way deign to think for themselves, to do for themselves, to have different ideas, and it is a message that unless you kowtow to an old order, this is what will happen to you. You will be lynched, destroyed, caricatured by a committee of the U.S. Senate rather than hung from a tree.
Thomas may have had something of a point, but the truth is that politicians can always be targeted with lurid accusations no matter who they are, and a white politician probably would have been equally vulnerable to a similar charge in that political climate, when feminists were just beginning to flex their muscles on the national stage.
However, like Clinton, he avoided confronting his accuser. Even today, men are reluctant to directly challenge a woman when she makes an accusation, and for a compelling reason — people, including judges, will often take such a stance as an indication that the accused man is a bully, and efforts to defend himself may therefore end up appearing incriminating, but this perception is on the wane.
Cain, on the other hand, has decided to nip this “scandal” in the bud by going on the offensive and labeling the sexual harassment case a “false accusation.” It’s probably the wisest course of action, and one that is increasingly acceptable given changing views concerning gender and the dawning public awareness that many accusations are in fact deceptive and made with ulterior motives.
Here’s an excerpt from Cain’s statement:
while at the restaurant association, I was accused of sexual harassment. Falsely accused, I might add. I was falsely accused of sexual harassment, and when the charges were brought, as the leader of the organization, I recused myself and allowed my general counsel and human resource officer to handle it.
I don’t know much about Herman Cain, aside from the fact that he’s a good businessman and a conservative. But I do think it’s a positive sign to see a man standing up for himself in a direct, open manner, and putting the ball back in his accuser’s court rather than avoiding the issue and handing it off to some PR team. Calling the harassment case a “false accusation” may not seem like a big deal at first thought, but it’s actually very significant, as it is a departure from the typical evasion and deference to the accuser.
Hopefully, more men will take this example to heart and, no matter what their status or position, finally realize that actively and openly defending themselves from spurious accusations is both acceptable and effective.
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cain v obama 2010 will be the greatest thing ever. it will show fatherless black men the difference between a man (cain) and an affirmative action baby (obama)
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I hope Cain is the nominee. If it is Romney, the country is gone.
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‘That’s a lie, and you know it’ I said, and she went silent, but men are White Knights, so the woman is exonerated and excused; and the man disbelieved. The only sexual harassement I have ever come across has been from women. The law will not deal with them. Once upon a time the older generation of women would rein them in, but seemingly no longer, as the older women are all trainee cougars.
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Someone counter to Mainstream Media and Big Government is getting too uppity. Other attacks have failed.
Cue standard false sexual harassment/rape charge in 3..2..1..
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Well this just as will Mr Thomas another case of the elites making sure that boy remember’s his place.
BTW half of the stuff that on the surface appears like anti-white racism is more directed at black people to keep them on the plantation under black and liberal leadership. That is how Rev. Wright keeps his church together so he can live in that nice mansion.
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If someone accuses a public male figure of some sexual impolitness, sexual harassment being a subjective claim, the onus should be on the accuser. Placing the onus on Cain is not unlike engaging in gossip and girl-talk and believing whatever is whispered on the politico grapevine.
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Back in the 90′s within corporate America women claiming sexual harrassment for the most subtle or nuanced suggestion of anything sexual in nature was very common. If it was as executive of some sort they’d cut their losses and buy the bitches off, typically with a 5 figure settlement, as the case with Cain. This was the dark age of the “creating a hostile work environment” environment. Ironic isn’t it?
I personally witnessed this occuring several times. I myself was also falsely accused of sexual harrasement a few times. It’s a very helpless feeling sitting there in front of the (female) director of HR having to plead your case. I came out OK, but the label of “being found innocent of sexual harrasment” stuck with me for a while.
What likely happened is that he made a few “off-color” remarks at a company gathering (with the wine flowing) and the feminist indocrinated sisters saw dollar signs. Even if the remarks couldn’t be substantiated by a third party, the policy was to pay the bitches off and ask them to resign. It was considered a “cost of doing business” expense.
Suffice to say liberals HATE conservative minorities and women because it skews their narrative. I would not hesitate to vote for Herman Cain for one second. He’d need somebody with insider experience like Newt as a running mate though. Romney is just a little too RINO for my taste. That said a vote for ANY Republican is a vote against the march of feminist governance.
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I am in my mid-30′s, but have always been at the very frontier of this type of thinking. Perhaps it was due to my own father raising me with a keen understanding and appreciation of masculine values, and no doubt also to my mother, who was hardworking, efficient at all the tasks with which a noble and honorable woman should aspire to (homemaking skills, adept at child rearing, nurturing and loyal to my father).
I have seen and contemplated these issues for over 15 years now, since I was wrongfully accused of rape as an undergrad (thankfully no formal charges were filed) however, the girl in question told many other girls and also male students that I had raped her, I suspect mostly for attention, and the fact was, I wasn’t just innocent, I was beyond innocent. She had pursued me physically on the night in question and introduced me to marijuana, which I had never even been in the presence of before.
My response was two fold: first, when confronted by her male friends who made snide remarks to or sought to “tell me off” so to speak, I reacted physically, as I had been taught to do by my father when one’s honor is insulted and you are clearly in the right. Secondly, I wrote a passage for the college paper called “a male perspective on date rape” which was published rather surprisingly, abet with my head shot right beside the title. Needless to say, I caught a significant amount of criticism from the feminist types. Strangers would come up and run their mouth off at the dining hall. It didn’t get to me — I knew I was right. As will surprise no one on this site, the number of attractive coeds that approached me at parties, and that I eventually ended up sleeping with only increased.
As men, when confronted with these issues, we must stand up loudly and maintain our innocence. If someone accused you of a robbery that you didn’t do, would you just stand there silent?
The PR machines that handled the Kobe Bryant deal, the Duke Lacross deal, and the DSK deal handled it horribly. No common sense. You can never back down or show any weakness. Do not acquiescence and do not supplicate and do not apologize for anything.
Even though I have had a wonderful education and some financial success in life, I know that I have failed in many ways to become the honorable man type of man that my father is. I have been into “game” since the early 2000′s, and have had my share of “strange”. I think that most of us here know how enticing that lifestyle can be, but now I am beginning to think how shallow and selfish that is. Whatever it is, it is not that which defines a man. Slowly, I think I have become more activist than gamer, and hopefully, I can contribute something in the future.
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Dear keyster October 31, 2011 at 16:12:
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“That said a vote for ANY Republican is a vote against the march of feminist governance.”
Certainly, the Republican Party is the least worst of the two major U.S. political parties, however, Feminism is still the flour of that cake.
Recall that Ronald Reagan spoke to women’s groups and declared that women civilize men (Nancy R. admitted such in her book). George Bush the First spoke to various public meetings stating that he wanted the same OPPORTUNITIES for women as for men (and not RESPONSIBILITIES)–and his rule proved that he didn’t even mean equal opportunities but rather SUPERIOR opportunities for women.
Recall that the same George I’s wife stated she wished the next spouse of the US President well, whoever she was. And Geroge II’s wife continued in that vein attending various Feminist-sponsored trips for women, forsaking men.
I could go on. The least worst I have ever read/heard is from the New Gingrich as per his public statements re men’s-rights as initiated by Fathers and Families. At least he is movable in the right direction. Perhaps he is the MRA choice for the next presidential election. Certainly no Democrat is.
Keyster, thank you for your submission. You consistently offer so much good.
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It’s ironic that the Pizza Man is now being accused of looking for places where to put his peperoni.
Anything is possible – but lacking an audio/video recording of the “harassment” – I tend to disbelieve the accusations.
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Cain is a clown. The only candidate in the race that would actually change anything, who isn’t bought and paid for by the big corporations, is Ron Paul.
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Thanks to the institutionalized perversions of American law enforcement that have enabled false rape accusers, we are now in the middle of a “Culture of false rape accusations”.
The “protocol perversions and semantics games” that American law enforcement are engaged in, are not only a STAIN on American law enforcement, they are also un-constitutional.
This “Perversion Alliance” between Gender feminist quack-ademics and American law enforcement who are manufacturing statistics for them, will be a stain that will be hard to wash off, for both parties.
American law enforcement are supposed to be in the business of law enforcement, and have no business (and no qualifications) to be in the “manufacturing false and misleading rhetoric, to feed the public business”.
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Ron Paul, seconded.
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It’s a sad day even in hell when the greatest presidential qualification in the eyes of so many people is simply NOT being a White man. Cain is an idiot – at least Obama is smart, if malicious. Obama vs. Cain in 2012? Sure, nothing tyrannical about that at all. Let’s force a country that is 65% White to be governed by the 13% Black minority that hates them – not because they’re more qualified, which they aren’t, but because they ‘deserve it’.
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YoungWiseMan
You being a gamer and how you have grown out of it is the kind of thing I comment about. For a while maybe not so much now the MRA’s here really looked down on the PUA and game. I always believed the PUA and “gamers” were actually young versions of MGTOW (they are the same guy at different stages of life) because both provide valuable service to the MRM.
I would love top know you are teaching as many young men as possible about game and macking pussy.
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@ greyghost
Players, MRA’s aren’t single men men and aren’t all mens issues MRA issues.
I’m MGTOW and I be I get more trim than most of you young guys and, when you my age this is what counts…it costs less money…and I’m talking about 25 year olds.
I have no life plan that involves a woman except as friends. My sister and my mother yes, but that’s it and that’s not the way I lived the first 40 years of my life.
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Rocco
If you are single and are MGTOW and still getting ass you would maybe considered a PUA type. Many would define a MGTOW type as an older man the is more celibate. I like to see men live as they choose just guided by the idea that they provide as little as possible to the beast. And that beast includes insuring that any woman that involves them selves with such a man is certain to be a childless spinster.
So rocco as a MGTOW type and a mack of young carousel riders I salute you in this war on femminism. Brag about it and encourage others to do the same. I have a 5 year old son counting on men living well today.
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Well you can definite how you like but celabate is not any part of the MGTOW definition….as the folks who invented it post here, perhaps a clarification could be made.
Is MGTOW the same as celebacy?
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No, MGTOW does not equal celibacy. Some MGTOW are celibate and others are not. I consider myself a MGHOW and I’m not celibate.
I can’t speak for anyone else, but my definition is simply a man that does his own thing without catering to women or anyone else. A man who lives his life explicitly for his own benefit, whether or not his path crosses with women. Personally, I don’t mind if worthy women want to share the path with me, but I’m the one beating the path out of the wilderness and I decide where it’s going.
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Is MGTOW the same as celebacy?
I’ve talked to a lot of the old timers in the last year. MGTOW is not the same as celibacy. In fact, MGTOW is not about anything other than respecting the rights of brothers to do their own thing.
There are MGTOW brothers who are married, there are MGTOW brothers who are celibate, and there are playa MGTOW brothers, and all points inbetween. It tends to be anti-marriage to western women. Most of the married MGTOWers are old timers (married before the laws changed) or are married to foreign women in lands with better laws and have their bases covered. It’s all about breaking through the social and economic structure and finding what works best for you, and doing that, regardless of whether society’s inane and self-serving mores frown or shine upon your choices.
Regards, Boxer
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Herman Cain was the Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City.
If you don’t know what the Federal Reserve Bank is I suggest you search “The American Dream Film-Full Length”- it’s available in full on Youtube.
If the style of “The American Dream” isn’t your cup of tea I recommend “The Money Masters” also available in full on Youtube.
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The ‘false accusation’ meme could be a rhetorical game changer. There are often a few high profile cases about and there always seems to one within 6-12mths. Simply throwing out the false-acc statement is enough to get the hamsters chewing on their own butts.
Good call welmer.
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Ron Paul is the only candidate who will do anything for men’s rights by eliminating as much of the state as possible. The rest are corporate shills. And please don’t call Cain the pizza man, call him the head of the Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank.
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I hope Cain is the nominee. If it is Romney, the country is gone.
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I concur.
And, judging from this situation Caine’s in now, I dare say that a lot of folks on the other side of the fence ALSO concur if you know what I mean?
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greyghost October 31, 2011 at 15:47
Well this just as will Mr Thomas another case of the elites making sure that boy remember’s his place.
BTW half of the stuff that on the surface appears like anti-white racism is more directed at black people to keep them on the plantation under black and liberal leadership. That is how Rev. Wright keeps his church together so he can live in that nice mansion.
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Good meme to spread.
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Good to see the MGTOW discussed like that. I never thought it was to be celibate myself. Now it did take a short while for me to realise the value of the gamer PUA until I started checking out Dalrock’s site. Those guys keep the feminist sluts busy on the carousel and give the sluts the delusion of the alpha around the next dick. Keeps them from settling for some unaware blue piller that doesn’t know better. The PUA keeps other men free until we get a chance to get him his red pill. He chooses not to take it, well he gets to be the example we have to teach the next man. What is really something PUA are not neccesarily on the red pill as the tire of the lifestyle from being constantly exposed to the bullshit from women they just red pillers and then describe them selves as MGTOW. I like it. And I feel it is completely natural and normal and takes into account the basic human sexuality of a young man. The whole concept respects the human natural needs of a young man and allows the man a chance to survive in a society that has set a system to exploit to second class that basic humanity of men.
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@ Keyster
Your message resonated with me because (separate from the problem I refer to in my earlier message) I too have suffered the same sort of allegation as yourself in a working enivronment and happily with the same exonerating result. Having had a few years to think about the matter, I have concluded, that :
1. A man must be sufficiently powerful and attractive to garner the accusation because there is little mileage for a woman in making accusations against men who are neither. (We all know how women are oblivious to men they see as beneath them).
2. It is usually unattractive women who make allegations, for by making the allegation they imply that they are sufficiently hot that a man (such as yourself) would be attracted to them. They thus send out a message (to other women as well as the men) as to their attractiveness – albeit an obviously false one.
3. These problems only seem to have arisen since the mid 90s, with the rise of Post-Marital Spinsterhood. It is noticable that the cry ‘where have all the good men gone’ has also arisen since that time. If women want ‘good men’ to return, then older women are going to have to resume policing rather than trying to compete with younger women.
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How interesting to compare a rape accusation to lynching.
Yet again, the black man falling back on his winning play, the race card and white guilt. Cain does not strike me as particularly intelligent, nor as a man to be admired. His speech reminds one of a hellfire preacher in the Southern tradition. And I don’t believe for a second that he’s as race neutral as everyone thinks he is. Give him the chance, he’ll back his own people, just as Obama does.
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Certainly, the Republican Party is the least worst of the two major U.S. political parties, however, Feminism is still the flour of that cake.
Recall that Ronald Reagan spoke to women’s groups and declared that women civilize men (Nancy R. admitted such in her book). George Bush the First spoke to various public meetings stating that he wanted the same OPPORTUNITIES for women as for men (and not RESPONSIBILITIES)–and his rule proved that he didn’t even mean equal opportunities but rather SUPERIOR opportunities for women.
Great observations. The party of Reagan is consistently more anti-male than the Democrats. They’re the party of sending our brothers off to the war meatgrinder, and bringing them home in pieces, all for the honor of the Ameriskank of course. The Crapublicans are also the party of White Knight faggot chivalry.
There is nothing that a right wing CONservative is going to do, except blather on aimlessly like the brain-dead shills they are. Electing them changes nothing, aside from giving the manginas an ego boost.
Regards, Boxer
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It seems to me this post is assuming the accusation is false, isn’t that an impossible step to take not knowing any more details?
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Um, Boxer, you are aware that some women will make false accusations against a man they’ve never even spoken with?
I most certainly recall a woman who had an interest in me several years back go around telling everyone that I was stalking her, even though I’d never spoken more than one or two sentences to her ever, outside of, “May I have another pint of Heineken, please?”
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Boxer, you obviously live in a different world than I do. Sexual Harassment at work has nothing to do with making sexual advances. All it means is something you did or said “offended” an entitlement princess in the vicinity. I have had two cases charged against me while I worked in a woman dominated office. One was when a woman in a nearby cubicle overheard me say something to a woman in the hallway and chose to be offended. The second was when I had a picture of my (much younger and Asian) wife and I on the beach as a screen saver. In both cases it was explained to me that there was no defense possible as the issue was not what I did or said, but that a woman was offended. You can not prove she was not offended so you are automatically guilty with no recourse. And it is all done anonymously.
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Republicans versus Democrats is like “is it better to be bitten by a snake with fast-acting venom or with very, very fast-acting venom?” Same in Canada, the UK, Australia, and all the other matriarchies. There’s no real political choice.
The point is to somehow get out of the system. That’s the choice.
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@ Nugganu
I do not doubt it, having myself suffered stalking complaints from someone I had only ever seen in a (one) pub. Rule of thumb: If that is what she is accusing you of, you can be pretty certain it will not be long before SHE is stalking you (which is what happened to me). Stalking is the ineffectual substitute for a relationship: it is malign NOT benign.
Is this yet another example, as happens so often, of women confusing cause and effect?
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Um, Boxer, you are aware that some women will make false accusations against a man they’ve never even spoken with?
Yes, and the best way to protect yourself against such nonsense is still not to go pussy begging at work. The American workplace is a fine place for a man to be, because the poor performance of wimminz and manginas allow a brother who isn’t into constantly chasing tail to look good, just by showing up.
Regards, Boxer
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–The point is to somehow get out of the system. That’s the choice.
It’s called don’t show up to the ballot box. Voters get what they vote for and have no right to complain.
Imagine it. There is an election and nobody shows up to vote. What are they gonna do?
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Hey Bill, is this the kind of “personal attack” you admonish me to avoid -
Just want to be clear.
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@ Boxer
Telling other posters you miss seeing their joints suckled is a personal attack and although I don’t know what your talking about found your comment both enlightening, and amusing and represents the kind of salty talk that keeps men coming back and women away….both good things…IMO.
If the feminists “sexual harrasment” and “rape accusations” will be the improper religeous ceremonies of the period of the inquisition. The feminists will now try to remove any males from office…that’s why they want quota’s…for now….as soon as they gain thier 53 % of voters female plus the 80% of male voters who wouldn’t dare contradict the dick in the house….giving feminists a nice 74% of votes. Do you think they don’t know this and that’s why they don’t seem scared or are concerned with our growing influence.
While daddy government pays more women will go there…I say, let them, then lets us be the backdoor boys.
The government of Ceasar supported Rome, let the government of women support the women.
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I can’t speak for political systems in other countries, but I can say for those in the USA that voting for Ron Paul and/or doing nothing at all is a wasted vote, and therfore one more vote towards the “Party of Women”.
(P.S. – I’m a registered Libertarian and I like and admire Ron Paul above any of the other GOP contenders. I’m also a realist.)
For those that believe the entire system is completely corrupt and there’s no hope for men whatsoever other than warning them about their continued demise, you’re not activists in improving social conditions for men through political means. That’s fine, but don’t try and undermine the efforts of someone who does believe in political activism, because you have a vapid hatred of Republicans or Conservative ideology. “Go your own way”, literally.
Remember the various powerful and well funded women’s groups all have bases (if not headquarters) in Wash. DC. They know how to get things done and they’re most effective at it when Democrats are in power. They lay like terrorist sleeper cells waiting for this to happen. Has anyone here even read ObamaCare? It’s free healthcare for women and nothing for men! You can bet strident feminist in-charge and Secretary of HHS Kathleen Sebelius had some input.
And with regards to anything you might strain youself to dig up from the Reagan administration that’s “pro-feminist” that was over 30 years ago, before most of you young bucks were even born.
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I think it is relevant to state that both Republicans and Democrats helped to get us where we are with feminism. However, we need to make decisions based on where we are now. A vote for continued Democratic party dominance is a vote for absolute female supremacy. There are no two ways about it. Remember what Obama said in naming the two supreme court judges, “All I am interested in is that they are concerned for Women’s rights.” Note that if you are male the Democrat president thinks the supreme court should have no concern for your rights.
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“One quality of masculinity is the ability to work without socializing and most of the weakling half-men who don’t understand this are made short work of by their gossipy sisters who send them into the PR grist mill. Good riddance, I say.”
This is why it’s important to spread the good news of going galt. If you stay off the women’s radar screen and don’t pay them any mind, then you aren’t going to get falsely accused.
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The shakedowns of powerful men continue, with the men firing back. Here’s more about billionaire George Soros’ entanglement.
http://www.businessinsider.com/george-soros-denies-adriana-ferreyr-lawsuit-2011-11-1
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I remember the Clarence Thomas “lynching” and how no mainstream media did any digging on Anita Hill. No where did they ever point out that she got tenure at the Univ of Oklahoma by suing for sexual harassment – and they gave her tenure to shut her up. Not one word about that was ever mentioned.
The Democrats and Feminists have already said that it doesn’t matter if they have a known sexual harasser as President – they backed Clinton even after he lied under oath – a felony to boot. But then, I forget that a Liberal can apparently be everything up to and perhaps including a pedophile and not one word of it will ever appear in a major media outlet.
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A liberal’s argument debunked:
Jefferson Davis (D) – started the civil war to keep blacks enslaved
ended by Lincoln (R)
Woodrow Wilson (D) – entered US into WWI
ended with the Treaty of Versailles (which led to WWII)
Franklin Roosevelt (D) – entered US into WWII
ended by nuclear fission
Harry S Truman (D) – entered US into Korean war
ended by Eisenhower (R)
John Kennedy (D) – entered US into Vietnam war, (LBJ escalated it)
ended by Nixon (R)
Yep, those evil Republicans have been “sending our brothers off to war” for decades. If you say it enough times you’ll believe it. I’ll add Woodrow Wilson, leader of the original Progressive Movement, is also considered to be the “father” of the Women’s suffrage movement.
John I thought you mentioned you had a Masters degree in History.
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@ goldenfetus (regarding MGTOW)
“A man who lives his life explicitly for his own benefit, whether or not his path crosses with women. Personally, I don’t mind if worthy women want to share the path with me, but I’m the one beating the path out of the wilderness and I decide where it’s going.”
Ding Ding Ding–We have a winner! You nailed it, dude.
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Annita Hill profiles as an incest victim — and ALL of her public acts fit that profile, too.
She’d had chronic run-ins with other powerful men on and off campus, too.
Yet the MSM bathed her in halos.
As for Thomas’ abuse: she followed him across the country — to stay in his company!
Her real rage was that she could not be Mrs. Thomas.
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The shakedown of the association was an easy payday. Such organizations are ALWAYS the first to settle. As a lobbyist organization it could not suffer any adverse publicity.
You can bet that the settlement had a nice hunk for the attorneys.
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@ GS Jockey
I agree completely, this is a very good definition of MGTOW.
But woman know we are MGTOW by default, this is nothing new. The feminine conquest is made when he “begs her on his very knees” to give her permission to ruin his life in exchange for less than a year of decent sex.
This is why the prostitution industry must be made legal. To help MGTOW men who want sex without extortion and because we’re broke and such moral irrelevancies are too expensive to keep the price of our fresh wild flowers of the desert’s hoochie over priced.
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OT:
Ukrainian feminists from FEMEN are on a world tour.
Never tired of showing off their tits, they were in Paris yesterday at DSK’s door for one of their usual performances:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCVt31_9Aak
http://www.the-spearhead.com/2010/11/21/femen-ukraine-is-not-a-brothel-but-it-sure-looks-like-one/
By the way, DSK is now involved in a new scandal with prostitutes. Although he hasn’t been arraigned so far, several policemen and businessmen too eager to please him are accused of pimping.
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Sounds like a degree…in Russian History, or a Worker’s World Party G.E.D.
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Just as Alain Juppé was castigating Libyans about “women’s dignity”…
I’ll definitely have to post this one.
@ Bill
Did you read Juvenal’s satire about women? He was advising a good friend of his against marrying.
I think he broaches many subjects that interest men’s rights and he was very lucid about female sexual psychology (hypergamy, attraction for thugs, etc).
He also criticizes proto-feminists who try to be males (playing gladiators).
The text is nearly two thousand years old.
A classic IMO, just like Belfort Bax.
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/juvenal-satvi.asp
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Statements such as this are beyond ludicrous – they appear the folly of a juvenile solely intent on getting attention.
Such tactics might work for an IMFant dedicated to brownnosing a pretentious plagiarizer, but have no use in reality.
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Same shit.
Different day.
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The party of Reagan is the reason Clinton could pass the welfare reform act of 1996 which lead to the single motherhood, loss of fathers, and debtors prison, so yeah…their just as bad toward men or worse.
We must fight for ourselves with our own leaders, I don’t want to list them there are so many trolls even here that listing the names would just lead to derision.
But times will change, they will lead.
Men will never forget what our sisters have done in the last few decades, generations of men realize they are being attacked and when they realize who by they join us, and we grow, very fast.
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“Sounds like a degree…in Russian History, or a Worker’s World Party G.E.D.”
No really, all it takes is being raised by liberal parents that send their children to liberal schools in liberal countries that have liberal politicians and a liberally biased media.
Of course conservatives are going to seem stupid and/or evil. If the writers on the Daily Show, Real Time, The Late Show and Saturday Night Live say so it must be true, ’cause they’re like totally hip and clever at using ridicule, mockery and fart jokes.
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I concur. The foreign Liberal is bred to believe in their right to attack their opponents, and expect the status quo to allow this to continue – all the while muzzling the opponent.
Such one-sided, hypocritical half-truths are why Communism failed, and why cocksuck jokes are the staple “argument” of the brown-child foreigner mentality, instead of rational logic.
They have been schooled into Da Stupid.
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Ryu
Give him the chance, he’ll back his own people, just as Obama does. Don’t fall for this simple minded crap. Black people have been sucked into this game for years. Obama is not an american black and does not see himself as such. He is a maxist,socialist and hates the US. He is not doing a damn thing for blacks in this country. Nor for anybody else. But he is using racial and gender politics to continue to destroy this country and make this a society entirely dependent on political favor for survival. Right now the latest fad and tactic is to claim some kind of sexual crime to get rid of a man you don’t want around. If it is a man you want around you get a pass (see bill Clinton) As long as your p[olitics are PC. Cain is an uppity nigger that has to be gotten rid of never forget that. The black community will never be allowed to support the man and most through pure ignorance won’t any way for they have fully bought into socialism. This is for no other reason than african american cultural reasons because blacks just vote liberal that is what a “good” black person does. There is a lot of internal pressure on black people to tow a ridiculous line and is a corner stone of liberalism and the black “leadership” to keep them in charge of their flock.
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I always believed the PUA and “gamers” were actually young versions of MGTOW (they are the same guy at different stages of life) because both provide valuable service to the MRM.
What have you been smoking? PUA’s are pussy beggars true MRA’s are not in fact we are very far from pussy beggars. The only way they will be an asset to us will be as ex-PUA’s not current ones and even then they might just disappear rather than become MRA’s.
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I used to think that too and on the surface you are right. Some one has got to be there for the carousel riders to consoume the child bearing years of the slut. Another great serviceis to make a high body count for a carousel rider to jade her of attraction she may have had for a beta male in her late twenties early thirties. She will hopefully stay on the carousel for the better deal sparing the beta until she is too old and used for a good beta.
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re: work place interactions – feigning marriage or homosexuality may be a useful counter measure to the sort of unwelcome attention that may lead to false accusations. Alternatively, just make like and ultra pc appeaser, put on the false face and game the game. Best solution is to look for a way out of that domain into self employment or contracting or into a male dominated work place.
re:who to vote for – untethered liberal rule will ultimately bring the whole charade to its feet much quicker. l would rather take the pain sooner and quickly than having to endure a drawn out battle, which is what will happen if the pendulum keeps swinging from left to right. l say, let them really fark it up, support their folly loudly and make sure everyone knows who is responsible. It make them easy to identify when the mob goes baying for blood. And they will, they always do.
l am finding that begging off and playing dumb has much utility. It flushes their views out by simply doing nothing and they under-estimate me, which is perfect, as they let the guard down and start doing their shiat in plain sight.
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Dear Rocco:
Telling other posters you miss seeing their joints suckled is a personal attack and although I don’t know what your talking about found your comment both enlightening, and amusing and represents the kind of salty talk that keeps men coming back and women away….both good things…IMO.
The only women I want here are Butt Boy Keyster and Poodles Firepower. Those two girls never cease to amuse and entertain. Nice to see the welfare checks came through on time and those two chicks can dance for another month here, 24/7. I was getting concerned there for a while.
The government of Ceasar supported Rome, let the government of women support the women.
Oh, no! Don’t you know anything? The Men’s Rights Movement is irrelevant. All we men need to do is to elect another crapublican like, say, Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin, Condolleezza Rice, or the chick who said “The Republican agenda is indeed pro-woman,” (Rep. Kristi Noem, R-S.D.)
So you see, all you readers of the spearhead should just quit already. Quit writing. Quit thinking. Butt Boy Keyster knows the way… and the way is the pro-woman Republican party. They’re somehow sympathetic to men’s rights, but apparently the details are a secret only he knows, or something. They’re the party of peace and freedom too. LOL
Regards, Boxer
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Miss seeing their joints suckled? Salty talk?
lol, you guys are more into
salty loads
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@Opus 3:34
-Don’t want to sound like I’m nitpicking, because you make great points in your entire string of quotes, but the Great American Man Shortage dates to when the first of the Boomer women started turning thirty, which pretty much coincided with the ERA fizzling out.
So it wasn’t the mid or even early 90s, but at least a dozen years earlier. The idea had gained enough traction in the culture that quite a few references exist from circa 1982 forward.
Just to mention one, chapter 2 of Cynthia Heimel’s 1983 “Sex Tips for Girls” is titled The Great Boyfriend Crunch (aka shortage). She does a brief parody of essentially a bunch of MGTOW types in a cave going crazy waiting for the wimminz to come to their senses without them.
I’d guess this theme in literature goes back a very long time. It’s not my field, but I do know George Gissing wrote a late-Victorian novel, “The Odd Women,” about the one million excess women in England then, which is worth reading; he has an interesting bio.
Actual man shortages have occured throughout history due to the ravages of nature and war, to say nothing of the ebb and flow of the battle of the sexes which goes back to the invention of sexual reproduction.
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Cain is outside the Republican establishment, and I know I made a comment under one of the Man Up! threads that the R’s would throw men (any and all) under the bus in order to pander to women voters. I hope he can weather this, as I’ve kinda come to like him the last couple of weeks. Whether Perot or Palin or Cain, at least the occasional clownish R who somehow crash the party and make it onstage briefly keep things entertaining.
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Hey Common Monster:
Just to mention one, chapter 2 of Cynthia Heimel’s 1983 “Sex Tips for Girls” is titled The Great Boyfriend Crunch (aka shortage). She does a brief parody of essentially a bunch of MGTOW types in a cave going crazy waiting for the wimminz to come to their senses without them.
Wow! I’ve never seen this reference before.
Women are hard wired to bee-yatch, but I wonder just how many MGTOW types there were in the mid 80s. It’d definitely be a cool subject to explore.
Thanks Again, Boxer
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I’m a young woman who works in a lower-level role in an office staffed mainly by highly-educated women in a field that is renowned for being stuffy and intellectual. I dearly miss having a male superior and the balance of male presence because despite their lofty educations and extensive reading background, it is clear none of these women know what they want. It is clear in their fuzzy and vague way of giving out assignments, in their passive aggressive manner of communicating and in their up and down again absences most likely based on emotional reasons.
So I feel even more strongly for men who have to work in male-dominated environments. You’re outnumbered, and when women group together in their flawed she-reasoning, no one can win.
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*So I feel even more strongly for men who have to work in *female-dominated environments.*
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He noted elsewhere that the accusation that made her uncomfortable was him saying she was as tall as his wife and putting his hand up. I was talking with a woman about this. She had been having some trouble understanding how I could say the western world was anti male. I noted this case here, that women could say they were sexually harassed for the stupidest of emotional reasons and you as a man would still be completely screwed.
She got it after that. And understood that screwing over men in a stupid way like that meant that women who were actually sexually harassed at work would be taken less seriously. I remain convinced that this is the best way to make your case. If you show that feminism has a negative effect on women (and it tends to because feminists are stupid and short minded and have no understanding of consequences to their actions) most men and women will accept your point.
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Dear anon November 1, 2011 at 18:18:
*So I feel even more strongly for men who have to work in *female-dominated environments.*
Thanks for your heart-felt honesty. I’m in the women’s government schools and it’s hell on earth emotionally, financially, socailly, educationally, etc.
The women and their very few manginas who are there are just man-hating, boy-hating parasites with no soul. It’s good to see that there are sleeper women (aka, it appears you have not come out as per your orientation to the matriarchy) in such hellish environments.
Perhaps I’ll meet some, some day, maybe.
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As the election nears
The memory hole widens
Men are once again revealed as nothing more than hypocrites.
The ends justify the means. So we’ve found the republican plant, who is the shill for the left?
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Dear Migu:
That’s correct. Anyone here who shills for any of the establishment political parties (be it left, right or centre) in any North American or European nation is simply practicing the fine art of self-deception.
America specifically is the rotten fountainhead of feminism. There was an article here on the spearhead several months ago detailing how it was partly funded by the CIA, and specifically the second wave was set in motion by that old Nixon Republican hack Henry Kissinger, who (according to the same article) kept a whore named Gloria Steinem. Even the mainstream doesn’t bother denying this.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a1M9EAly2hog&refer=home
The reality is that the establishment is one front, and Americans live in a one-party dictatorship which has a false democratic front. What we see easily seems incomprehensible to Americans, and I believe it’s because they were bred for generations to be conformist herd animals. In any event: feminism is a product of the American political system, funded and supported by both left and right, which it tries to spread worldwide. Any man who advocates for any of the establishment political parties is either a fool or a traitor to the men’s movement.
Regards, Boxer
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Not only politicians are breaking the old male mold.
Somewhat off topic, but so priceless I wanted to share it – It seems even some married guys are going their own way. Fantastic things their up to. Notice the comments from readers too. LMAO!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2056379/The-new-mid-life-crisis-Todays-men-seek-thrills-boys-adventures-Now-meet-women-leave-behind.html
Odd how it’s called a male mid life crisis!
I call it stepping out of harness.
It seems to me these guys are having a bloody good time.
God knows looking at the picture of one guy’s wife he thoroughly deserves it.
If it were me I’d have run away from her ages ago!
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Dear Skeptic:
Just another reason to never marry a nagging bitch. Look at these shrews begrudging their husbands (the same men who slaved away their best years) a little fun. Does any man here really want to attach himself to one of these bitches?
The usual pattern is for the bitch to take the poor fellow to the cleaners in divorce court and give the family fortune to the lawyers, just out of spite. She’ll end up in the poor house or living with relatives, but to the nasty bitch, that’s OK because she’ll destroy his life for spite.
No thanks…
Boxer
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You’re not even an American – yet your expert presumptuousness spews of hating America
when your country is far worse – not even a zit on America’s ass.
You’re a child.
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Well I believed it all. Until I fought in one of America’s wars, twice.
You can’t beat something with nothing, and misanthropy lite seems as good an alternative as any.
I just find it funny that my dogs live better than most people in the world. Indoctrination is hard to overcome. I still move towards gun fire to this day.
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Boxer, I’ve recently been exploring the lit by women of what might be called a modern sensibility written in the period just before the male-bashing craze swept through the culture with full force in the mid-80s. Farrell pointed to the phenomenon, calling it “The New Sexism”, in a chapter of his 1988 book Why Men Are the Way They Are. We all know practically every woman writer since has had to show her stripes by baring her snarling teeth and showing little to no sympathy for men.
Anyway, Cynthia Heimel definitely pre-dates that phase. She’s mostly just hilariously perceptive from start to finish. I thought it was a gem of a book to find, even years later.
And, yes, she does tie the alleged man shortage to men running scared for their lives, going underground, and waiting for the dust to settle. She thought we were on the verge of that happening — marching-in-the-streets feminism was about a decade or more ago in 1983. She didn’t realize the actual all-out nuclear conflagration was just about to start, what with the fresh institutionalization of feminazis all through the gubmint, academia, the media, etc.
Numbers are difficult to come by, but a certain percentage of all the boomer males have been MGTOW to some degree or another, if not overtly specifically so. Ironically, before second wave feminism hit in the late 60′s there was actually some female support for this desertion from the male role, but not after.
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