Waitress Reacts to Insult With Online Lynch Mob

by W.F. Price on October 14, 2011

Victoria Liss -- fat shaming avenger

Victoria Liss, a waitress at the ever-classy “Bimbo’s” Cantina (AKA Bimbo’s Bitchin’ Burrito Kitchen) in Seattle, flew into a rage after a customer not only neglected to tip her, but scrawled a note suggesting she drop a few pounds as well. Her response was to reach out to the sisterhood to form an online lynch mob, which quickly coalesced through the efforts of websites such as Jezebel and The Stranger. Soon, a man named Andrew Meyer was being tormented with thousands of nasty emails. However, in one out of the many errors with the mob’s approach, and probably the most egregious, it went after the wrong Andrew Meyer.

For a little background, Bimbo’s is located in the Pike-Pine corridor – the beating heart of Seattle’s freak scene – near the headquarters of The Stranger, across the street from the old dive bar The Comet (AKA The Vomit), directly above the subterranean, cavernous “Cha Cha” lounge, and next to the lesbian Wild Rose bar, where a man was once chased down and beaten with tools for fogging the windows and drawing a picture of a penis as a joke (the lesbians were not amused). I’m not going to say the people involved in that scene are a total loss, because I know a few of them personally, but they have a tendency to get carried away with their own, shall we say, “different,” view of propriety, and this time they went too far.

Ironically, our online gadfly, David Futrelle, recently took our very own Jack Donovan to task for venting about an obnoxious customer. Jack, who speculated that perhaps men may not be as good at dealing with abuse from customers, nevertheless did not name his customer, post her information online, or do anything vengeful at all. That didn’t stop Futrelle and his commenters from denouncing him for daring to write about how unpleasant the experience can be.

However, in the case of Victoria Liss, the insulted waitress, we had legions of feminists assisting her in an entirely disproportionate act of blind vengeance. Of course it’s a woman’s right to smear a man and attempt to destroy his life if he dares insult her! Why, the “fat shaming” alone is grounds for summary castration…

How many men would be so petty, so vindictive, and so morally depraved that they would launch a personal vendetta over a minor slight suffered in the course of a day’s work? Very few, obviously — such men would be instantly fired, and likely castigated by the courts (if not jailed) for harassment.

As for the victim, a man who just happened to have a certain name, we can hope that some compensation for the trouble is forthcoming. Although it is doubtful whether Liss has much in her pockets, according to The Stranger, bar owners may have been involved in the online lynching, and they likely have a little something to lose. Jezebel, likewise.

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Uncle Elmer October 14, 2011 at 12:00

“fogging the windows and drawing a picture of a penis as a joke”

This man is the kind of modern day “hero” that William Bennett should have profiled in his “Book of Men”. Which sounds like a high-falutin gay book when you think about it.

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Firepower October 14, 2011 at 12:03

In today’s America, it is assured one will get undeserved shit, for speaking Truth.

The customer spoke truth about her fatness, and now, the fat one is the one indignant…with a crowd of supporters defending her uncontrolled behavior.

America = truth avoidance

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Anon October 14, 2011 at 12:06

Is there any way the waitress in question and her allies can see this article, so that they know that their actions brought far more visibility to her than she would have wanted?

Then these feminists would know that such actions result in more ridicule…..

…just sayin’

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mananon October 14, 2011 at 12:16

An example such as this dovetails nicely with aspects of the previous story – that a woman’s “honour” is worth fighting for and men should be victimised for any perceived offence.

This is an example of women taking offence, and and is a manifestation of the notion that a woman has the right to seek recompense if she is any way offended.

This is a small example of a larger problem, that being a woman’s honour is worth the harrassment or even assault of men. In a way the man should count himself lucky; she could just as easily have got “the boys” to give him a kicking and then we’d have an innocent man in hospital or worse…

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dragnet October 14, 2011 at 12:25

Fat women have feelings?

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Anonymous Reader October 14, 2011 at 12:39

This incident shows why some of us choose to post under nom de plumes. We do not need random hate-filled misandry flooding our mail box (there’s plenty of that available for free in the world) and generally getting in the way. Plus in an era where false rape allegations are cost-free for women, the possibility of some feminist using the police as her personal enforcers is non zero.

Were I the man in Texas, I would be implacable. I would seek summary judgement for willful libel against every web site, every media outlet, where the lie appeared. I would seek as big a financial judgement against the fat waitress as possible; that she can’t pay it now is unimportant, that she have tens of thousands of dollars in judgement hanging over her head for decades would be instructive for her and others like her. Get a better job? Great! Pay me more money. Get married? Great, he pays me more money. She’d be living like a divorced man…

The Stranger should have to pay, bigtime. Ditto Jezebel. Even feminists should have to obey some laws. The act of cutting a nice, big, fat check to a man would perhaps be instructive to the denizens of those operations.

Oh, and for Manbooby trolls: ask your Manbooby if he’s OK with feminists smearing randomly selected men, seeking to damage their reputation, just for the heck of it. See if he can come up with an answer.

Don’t bother to post it here, though. No one cares that SteppinFetchit says anyway.

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mananon October 14, 2011 at 12:39

And you can be sure she’s used to belitting men on a regular basis. I wonder how many men she’s insulted, about the size of their manhood or the size of their bank balance or whatever. All well and good she thinks, but when a man dares do the same to her stand back, her precious feelings have been hurt.

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Rebel October 14, 2011 at 12:41

I wonder if she “weighted” the pros and cons. In any case, I think she went very heavily into revenge mode.

Maybe miss Rotunda got rolling and… couldn’t stop..!

Give this lady a truckload of Big Macs!

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Opus October 14, 2011 at 12:53

I always undertsood that the word Tip was an acronym, ‘To Improve Performance’. It is a voluntary gratuity usually paid at 10%. Clearly Mr Mayer did not see much improvement. I blame the restauarant for employing the overweight, indecently-dressed tart in the first place.

(I gain the impression, Welmer, that you are just not taking this matter with all the seriousness it clearly merits – seeing that a woman’s waist size has been drawn to the world’s attention).

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Jim October 14, 2011 at 12:56

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Anonymous Reader October 14, 2011 at 12:59

One more point: this is a good reason for paying in such places with cash.

Recently a major ID theft ring in the NYC area was broken up. They had access to credit card fabrication machines, and other sophisticated parts of the international operation were impressive. But how did they get credit card numbers to use?

By planting their stooges as waiters/waitresses in certain NYC area restaurants. Think about it – you give your credit card to a stranger who takes it away for an unknown period of time.

Pay with cash. Then fat, entitled, Special Snowflake princesses like Victoria Liss won’t be able to track you down and vent their temper tantrum on you when you pay them the tip that their crappy, ill mannered service deserves.

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msfm October 14, 2011 at 13:00

Anon October 14, 2011 at 12:06
Is there any way the waitress in question and her allies can see this article, so that they know that their actions brought far more visibility to her than she would have wanted?

This is right out of the feminists playbook.
Circle the wagons and attack.
Strength in numbers; make him pay for crossing a woman.
The fact that the “offense” is contrived or insanely petty is not the issue.
Then make certain it gets as much publicity as humanly possible as a warning to other men who dare speak out.

It’s all about fear and intimidation.
Based on our current situation, I’d say it’s working damn well.

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Anonymous Reader October 14, 2011 at 13:03

And another thing. The last 45 days or so has been one great example of female entitlement after another, in the blog world. First Jan Berzerknek or whatever her name is, publicly trashing a hedge fund guy for playing a game she didn’t care for. Then a few other things, and now this.

Every one of these very public displays of bad behavior by women can be explained in terms of Game (i.e. applied evo-psych), and every one of them is not explainable by the White Knight, girls-are-special, trad-con / so-con model of the world. As a plus, we can contrast these various public displays of what women really are like with the bloviation of Bill “Man Up” Bennett’s attempt at shaming language.

Tradcons, socons, you really need to get a clue about how the world really work. You can start by trying to explain these women and their bad behavior. Why do they do such things, if they are inherently more moral than men, as y’all endlessly insist?

Could it be that your model of human behavior, that you share with the feminists, is just wrong?

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Booch Paradise October 14, 2011 at 13:09

Anyone registered her yet?

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silent October 14, 2011 at 13:10

Washington allows concealed carry – no one should be beaten for any reason. Especially not a bunch of lesbos with tools. Odd

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Troll King October 14, 2011 at 13:12

But…but…but…

Don’t you guys understand that he was being abusive towards her? All you have to do is look at this list of abusive behaviors from Men Stopping Violence:

http://www.menstoppingviolence.org/cgi-bin/MySQLdb?VIEW=/viewfiles/view_document.txt&docid=30

Lol. Apparently using logic is now a abusive act towards a woman. Hahahaha.

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Jim October 14, 2011 at 13:16

Troll King October 14, 2011 at 13:12
“But…but…but…

Don’t you guys understand that he was being abusive towards her? All you have to do is look at this list of abusive behaviors from Men Stopping Violence:

http://www.menstoppingviolence.org/cgi-bin/MySQLdb?VIEW=/viewfiles/view_document.txt&docid=30

Lol. Apparently using logic is now a abusive act towards a woman. Hahahaha.”

That can’t be real. *facepalm*

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Rebel October 14, 2011 at 13:28

Anonymous Reader:
Pay with cash.”

Super advise!

I’ve been paying cash for years now. Even my car.

My name is on no “customer list”. I’m financially invisible. (almost)

Peace.
And freedom.
I do what I will.

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Uncle Elmer October 14, 2011 at 13:28

Troll King October 14, 2011 at 13:12

But…but…but…

Abusive behavior :

Claiming “the truth,” being the authority, defining her behavior, using “logic.”

————-

Thing is, they’re serious.

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Taqman October 14, 2011 at 13:32

Tradcons, socons, you really need to get a clue about how the world really work.

They refuse to listen, as they flat out reject darwinism and evolutionary psychology.

The hazards of being ignorant creationists……..

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Maaldweb October 14, 2011 at 13:33

You know people like that freak have the right to vote. No wonder Obama got elected…

In a sane society, childless, unmarried women over the age of 30 wouldn’t have the right to vote or go outside without the escort of a senior male and they certainly wouldn’t be able to press charges against anyone in court.

Society is endangered by those hormonecrazed cunts.

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Troll King October 14, 2011 at 13:45

@ Jim.

It is serious. This is a anti-domestic violence organization that is currently working with another DV org that is working on creating new laws that will expand the Battered Woman Defense so that women who kill their partners can get less jail/prison time and can even get rehabilitive therapy instead of prison.

I actually found their site by clicking through links on a feministing(I think) post about DV.

Let’s see if I can find it.

Here it is:
http://feministing.com/2011/10/14/resisting-violence-and-practicing-what-we-preach/#more-39766

Here is one of the sites linked about creating or furthering the battered woman defense:

http://www.correctionalassociation.org/WIPP/

There are a few more that I found but the sad fact is that they are very serious.

Look at the first link and you can see how they can inflate the DV stats so much and gain more federal money and paint all men as potential abusers or actual abusers. They frequently try to destroy shared custody and parenting bills by claiming fathers rights activists are actually batterers and by the definitions they use they are probably correct….hell, by those definitions then there probably isn’t a single woman alive who isn’t a husband beater/batterer but we all know that those definitions are only used on men.

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Troll King October 14, 2011 at 13:48

If you want to see some more feminist DV work then you can see that they are clearly defining men as being abusive towards women as the default position and then they are trying to redefine masculinity in a way that will benefit women and turn men into white knight slaves whose entire identity revolves around protecting and submitting to women.

Click through the links if you want:
http://feministing.com/2011/10/12/a-few-good-men-domestic-violence-and-accountability/#comments

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Renee October 14, 2011 at 13:50

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Troll King October 14, 2011 at 13:51

I am truly surprised that feminists and women would engage in such cyber bullying and cyber stalking. I, through my classes, learnt that this was a male quality and that no woman would ever engage in such behavior. /sarcasm/

Typical female hypocrisy.

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Renee October 14, 2011 at 13:51

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Renee October 14, 2011 at 13:53

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Troll King October 14, 2011 at 13:57

Somewhat ot:

Lolz:

[blockquote]
The Brown Boi Project is a community of masculine of center womyn, men, two-spirit people, transmen, and our allies committed to transforming our privilege of masculinity, gender, and race into tools for achieving Racial and Gender Justice [/blockquote]

Two-spirit people? WTF is that? Are they possessed or something? Better call a exorcist.

http://brownboiproject.org/

From their about page:
[blockquote]*Masculine of center (MoC) recognizes the cultural breadth and depth of identity for lesbian/queer womyn who tilt toward the masculine side of the gender scale, and the term includes a wide range of identities such as butch, stud, aggressive/AG, tom, macha, boi, dom, etc[/blockquote]

And here I thought feminism was about erasing the distinctions between masculine/feminine??? Here they are literally trying to erase masculine identity in the hope of subverting it and redefine it towards their own goals.

Am I the only one that finds it wierd that they will use a Y in the word women because they hate men so much while they don’t have a Y-chromosome? Then they turn around and rebrand boy with a I and spell it boi because they hate masculinity or maleness so much? Do they choose the I do to the fact they don’t have a Y-chromosome and they are jealous. What is going on here?

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Quartermain October 14, 2011 at 13:59

Wonder how long “Bimbo’s” Cantina will last as a business after this.

I wouldn’t go there.

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Troll King October 14, 2011 at 14:14

@Renee

Obviously it is a female tactic in relationships, it is literally everywhere in music videos and tv shows and so on but take a intro psychology class and you will probably find yourself reading about male stalking and how the internet is now assisting with cyber bullying and stalking and blah blah blah in the book and teachers definately cover it. When I have seen it on a TV show or in a academic sense they always default to using the male perp and female victim model of cyber stalking.

Atleast, I have never seen a advert telling women not to facebook stalk ex-boyfriends or to not snoop through their emails but I have seen several PSAs depicting men this way.

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Maaldweb October 14, 2011 at 14:23

Renee wrote:”And no I’m not saying this to defend her or the ~sisterhood~. I’m just being objective.”

How come being objective always involves absolving females from the consequences of their psychopathic behaviour is certainly a question…

Anyway…

People like V.Liss are uncivilised brutes who have been left untouched by hundreds of thousands of years of evolution and centuries of urbanisation. As long as such freaks were kept indoors or in the fields and they couldn’t get their hands on technology they didn’t constitute a serious problem for society. But our society has gone nuts and it gives the chance to barbaric hormonecrazed females to ruin the reputation and life of innocent people.

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scatmaster October 14, 2011 at 14:31

How come being objective always involves absolving females from the consequences of their psychopathic behaviour is certainly a question…

Rhetorical I presume?

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universe October 14, 2011 at 14:42

Waitress Reacts to Insult With Online Lynch Mob<
However, in the case of Victoria Liss, the insulted waitress, we had legions of feminists assisting her in an entirely disproportionate act of blind vengeance.

– People just don’t write fatso messages out of the blue without being provoked. What did that waitress do to piss off that customer man so much? Which begs the question – how does one man deal with the viral team backstab?
For the newbies, there’s an example of the modern sisterhood in action on the micro level but now exposed to the macro. Belies the “nice…sugar and spice” fable for the nursery set. If the fem-speak web-sites involved retain a portion of guv. funding this incidence is the time that bureaucrats take a good look at where public $ goes.
Similar young fattie feminists go into ballistic launch mode over one female reading a note about her looks (looks!, for God’s sake. What minor league chumps). Imagine the furor when the fatties discover that the philosophy which drove them into a state of self-induced psychosis is finally revealed to the greater world as being false and factually devoid.
Rubber rooms retrofitted to 1 in every 6 homes.

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RW October 14, 2011 at 14:48

Feminists are good at organizing online tsunamis of outrage. It’s like their special move – first they whip out some petulant narcissism, hit you with some dismissive 4chan memes, then, bam, outrage and indignation combo. “DO YOU REALIZE HOW INCORRECT AND OFFENSIVE YOU ARRRRRRREEEEEE?”

I think what stung this woman the most is the casual nature of the insult. Guy just doesn’t tip, leaves you a little rude note and saunters off with his life. It also hits a bit of insecurity you’ve got – i.e. you’re a fattie and maybe, just maybe, it’s not totally OK and fat acceptance is slightly silly. I doff my cap to this man, detached Zen master of the deep cut insult. Surely his results speak for themselves?

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greyghost October 14, 2011 at 14:51

Anon October 14, 2011 at 12:06
Is there any way the waitress in question and her allies can see this article, so that they know that their actions brought far more visibility to her than she would have wanted?

Then these feminists would know that such actions result in more ridicule…..

…just sayin’

Judging by the down votes at the top of the comments it looks like them hoes came over to see a picture of the pig they are fighting for.

Conventional wisdom would say that a woman with that built would be friendly and give good service to make up what is lacking in physical appearance. But as heartiste has descibed many time in the world of feral woman logic goes out of the window. Pretty girls are nicer because they can be they just need for you to treat em like shit to get to enjoy their kindness.( http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/10/12/wrapped-around-his-finger/ )Unattractive hawgs as shown above act like bitches to display how valueable they are. Feral women measure their status and worth by how big of a burden they can be on everybody else. She made herself too much of a burden for voluntary taking of her shit. And got her feelings hurt so she went public to get every body to afirm her value. All she as done is show herself has a delusional pig. I wouldn’t hit that she has an ugly turn off of a shape to her. Even if she was slinder but with that shape she could soften a hard dick in no time. Infact I think she knows it too.

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KARMA MRA MGTOW October 14, 2011 at 15:02

Well Victoria Liss has shown her true self….

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oddsock October 14, 2011 at 15:03

greyghost

” I wouldn’t hit that she has an ugly turn off of a shape to her. Even if she was slinder but with that shape she could soften a hard dick in no time. Infact I think she knows it too”

Yer think ? You should see some of the grave diggers mates I humped as a young stud muffin. In them days I would have poked a rip in a couch cushion !

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Paradoxotaur October 14, 2011 at 15:07

If your favorite pub makes the mistake of hiring a feminist a-hole, it’s actually pretty easy to get rid of her. Complain to the owner. Minor, things subject to interpretation (e.g., “She didn’t even acknowledge me when I came in. I sat there five bloody minutes before she bothered to ask me for my order. It’s one thing if it’s busy, I understand, but it wasn’t she was just off yappin’.”) work almost as well as hard, factual complaints (e.g., “She didn’t bring me my change, but put it in the tip jar. Funny thing, I would have tipped more than the change, but I expect that to be my choice, not hers.”). Encourage your friends to complain, too. After 3-4 complaints the owner will have cause to replace her. Give people a reason to do what you would like them to do.

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Rebel October 14, 2011 at 15:29

“Do they choose the I do to the fact they don’t have a Y-chromosome and they are jealous. What is going on here?”

Jealous of a chromosome?

As crazy as it may sound, it is quite a possibility.

But how would they know that the Y chromosome is responsible for evolution?

But if they know about it, then I understand their jealousy.

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Pro-male/Anti-feminist Tech October 14, 2011 at 15:49

Lynch mob is an apt metaphor for what happened to this man. There is a good deal of similarity between what this woman did and women in the post-Civil War South who lied by crying, “raaaayyyype!!!!!!!!!!” to get black men lynched.

I question if the original “insult” even really happened to the waitress. She may have imagined it either entirely or in part.

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Fabron October 14, 2011 at 15:50

Sitting here with nothing better to do, I searched Google Images for “Victoria Liss”. It appears to be one and the same.

http://www.hillebrity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/IMG_1209-700×525.jpg

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mananon October 14, 2011 at 16:03

This is such a non story. A man acts like a jerk, and a woman completely reacts in a childish way. Nothing to see here folks.

Jim

If only that were true, and it would be, if she’d left it at the “man acts like a jerk” bit. But no, she had a hissy fit and posted his name and what’s more targeted the wrong man to boot.

That’s the point. People act like jerks all the time. It’s how you behave in turn that makes the difference.

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Eric October 14, 2011 at 16:21

For MRAs living outside Seattle, as Price pointed out, this place is located in a really seedy part of town; mostly known for aggressive panhandlers, low-level dope dealers and other assorted street vermin. It’s also another ‘hot-spot’ for the local Amerobitches to troll for scumbags.

This morning on the train, I overheard some local dunderhead bragging to another dumbass about his girlfriends. He has three of them apparently; one is a model, another two are barristas. I looked over at him, and (maybe because we’ve discussing superheroes on another thread) the first thing I thought of was Batman’s enemy, the Penguin. Short, fat, bald, and creepy looking; exactly the kind of man Amerobitches swoon over.

He was also telling his sidekick about how he goaded some workers at Seattle City Light into altercation with him. “I got the whole thing on videotape” he carried on, “the attorney says I might be looking at a big settlement here.” Oh well, at least he’s gainfully employed.

I really wonder if there’s actually any male alive who’s too low even for an Amerobitch. There are plenty who are too good for them, though.

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Davd October 14, 2011 at 16:32

How about a little allusive sarcasm:
– My Dad told me what Bimbo meant back around 1958. Why would anyone name a place that is not a venue of prostitution, Bimbo’s?
– so Andrew Meyer decided not to change his name to John. His perfect right…
– Futrelle = Future elle??

Slightly more seriously, how do we encourage the randomly-abused Texan to sue, and support his effort not so much with money [the Feminitwits can pay that after judgment] as with fraternal solidarity.

btw, re “two spirited”: It seems to refer to either bisexual or homosexual persons, and the anthropology of the phrase may turn out to be complicated. Suffice to say, “not straight, not abstinent”.

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crella October 14, 2011 at 16:39

“But, I seriously doubt that she had any clue that this would go viral!”

These days? Everything from videos of puppies, Paris Hilton, some funny guy dancing in his computer chair, and party invitations go viral (thousands show up for a party, I’m sure you saw it on the news). If she didn’t understand that, she’s not smart enough to own a computer.

“….Andrew, however rude a Capitol Hill bartender can be, I shouldn’t have to tell someone who works at freaking Microsoft about social media. Bartenders can toss shit up on Facebook too. It’s true! And your receipt is all over Facebook. As is your full name, your photograph, your phone number, the name of your employer, the name of your frat, and more. All shit this bartender’s angry friends managed to dig up in a weekend. Now bar owners and bartenders are talking about posting your picture—which they also managed to find—at the doors of their bars and clubs and 86ing you from all of ‘em.”

Sounds pretty purposeful to me. ‘Maybe she didn’t know’…more excuse making. Why do you defend slugs like these, Renee?

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Attila October 14, 2011 at 16:49

Truly pathetic in the classical sense of the word — what kind of society could producer females like that?

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crella October 14, 2011 at 17:03

I should add that accuracy seems to be the least of the concerns of internet vigilantes. On TodayMoms , a mother of three autistic daughters wrote an article entitled ‘Excluded: Why don’t you want my special-needs kids at your wedding?’ “I’m sharing the saga of our exclusion”….they heard there would be a wedding, and without waiting for the invitation to arrive, she started shopping for formal dresses for her three girls.

“My husband got an email from his sister telling him that while two nieces will be flower girls, and two nephews will be ring bearers, A, B, and C are NOT – INVITED – TO – HER – WEDDING. That’s right – the nieces who do not have autism are in the wedding party, my girls aren’t permitted to even sit in the Cape Cod restaurant on a Friday afternoon as she takes her vows. Ouch.”

She implores:
“I ask you to please include your friends and family whose kids have special needs in your plans. Our life is hard, and we weep for our kids when they are left out. ”

Well of course the comment thread exploded. Huge outpouring of sympathy for the mother and daughters. LOADS of posts expressing wishes of bad luck for the bride, such as wishes that she’d trip on her dress, someone would knock the wedding cake over, that “those “healthy” kids she picked as flower girls puke on her wedding gown”, all manner of vicious comments.

BUT……in the comments thread the author herself, after being pressed as to the contents of SILs email, says that it did not say ‘your kids can’t come because they have autism’ as alleged in the article, but that no children under 18 were invited at all , save the flower girls and ring bearers (two of each). Other relatives appeared on the thread, posting that their children were also not invited, they had no problem with it, and would attend as couples (one couple had 5 kids). Well that sheds an entirely different light on it, doesn’t it, nullifies the article, and exposes it as the appeal for attention that it is. One can have attendants and still have an adults-only event, but the author dishonestly made it about her kids’ disability.

Women engage in these emotional feeding frenzies on the internet without ever checking the facts. If it’s one of those stupid chain mails you can easily refute with a Snopes link, fine, but too many women like the waitress in this essay, and the mother of the autistic kids engage in wholesale character assassination, with little or no guilt. The ones who react blindly and repost and post vulgar comments wishing others harm are as bad as those who post the original rants.

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Euclid October 14, 2011 at 17:05

But Welmer, where did the Wild Rose patrons get tools to beat that man with? Oh right, I forgot. Most lesbians are tools already.

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Strret October 14, 2011 at 17:25

If I was this man, Andrew, who’s name is being paraded around the net, I would carry this thing like a badge of honor and never offer a single apology to that war pig ever. This is the kind of street cred the alpha players dream of when trying to spread a chick’s legs. His newfound jerk persona will only make women’s pussies wet, especially the young desirable ones.

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CorkyAgain October 14, 2011 at 17:45

I’ve lost the link, but earlier today I read an article that says Liss might have invited the comment about her weight.

It seems the customer’s girlfriend doesn’t like beans on her tacos, and when Liss pushed her to upgrade her order to include them, girlfriend declined, offering the common and presumably acceptable excuse about watching her weight, etc.

Liss then told her she could stand to gain a few pounds — probably already offended by what she no doubt perceived as a comment on her own weight — and continued to push her to accept the beans.

Girlfriend, however, has a history of dealing with anorexia and therefore she also took offense. The article suggests that it might have the girlfriend who wrote the note on the bill. If not, she probably pushed her boyfriend to do it.

In other words, what we have here is a mangina caught in the middle of a catfight. Naturally he takes the side of his own special snowflake. (I wonder if his white-knighting got him laid that night.)

Oh, and even though girlfriend still said no, the beans were on the tacos when they arrived at the table.

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crella October 14, 2011 at 18:03

“Liss then told her she could stand to gain a few pounds”

In no way is it acceptable for a waitress to push food on customers, or make remarks like this. I’d be ticked, but instead of writing a note I’d speak to a manager.

Maybe the girlfriend did write it, but Liss couldn’t get her name from the receipt so she attacked the man. Vapid morally bankrupt woman lashes out at the nearest target, a familiar theme. If the note paralleled her remark to the customer, she’s obviously not bright enough to figure out that her remark prompted the note….or she does realize it, and conveniently ignored what lead up to the note to paint herself as a victim of a random insult.

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crella October 14, 2011 at 18:14

Oh boy…..

http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/2011/10/victoria_liss_bartender_in_wro.php

“Victoria Liss, ‘Loose Weight’ Bartender in Wrongful-Shaming Incident, Once Got Two Wrong People Arrested and Jailed-

In September 2007, Matthew Oly and Bryan Krieger were arrested and charged with felony harassment after Liss and a friend of hers, Marcus Wilson, identified them as having threatened to kill Wilson.

But six months later it became clear that Liss and co. weren’t actually too sure that they had the right guys….’

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Sam October 14, 2011 at 18:18

I’m not sure why anyone is suprised that this waitress couldn’t control her anger. She can’t even control her diet.

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Joe Jackson October 14, 2011 at 18:31

We should all learn a lesson from this. Pay cash, especially if you are planning to piss somebody off like that guy did. This guy is probably one of the foolish individuals who pays at a Wendy’s drive through with his credit card. I only use my credit card for big purchases and renting cars.

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CorkyAgain October 14, 2011 at 18:45

No, the lesson — if the narrative I’ve described is the correct one — is that white-knighting can ruin your life.

If Mr Meyer did get laid that night, it was some awfully expensive sex.

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Rebel October 14, 2011 at 18:51

One of the interesting lessons to learn from this is how the bee mentality operates in human females. This is one striking example.

Ants are also known for displaying such behavior.

Mimicry?

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Dubliner October 14, 2011 at 19:01

“Tip” is not an acronym.

Oh, and he has retained counsel.

http://www.capitolhillseattle.com/2011/10/14/chs-talks-to-the-wrong-andrew-meyer

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Renee October 14, 2011 at 19:23

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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CorkyAgain October 14, 2011 at 19:35

I should probably retract my last comment. Since Mizz Liss went after the wrong Andrew Meyer, the one I’ve described as a possible white knight hasn’t suffered as a result of this incident.

… unless you count being a white knight as in itself a kind of suffering.

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Slicer October 14, 2011 at 20:25

“Do they choose the I do to the fact they don’t have a Y-chromosome and they are jealous. What is going on here?”

Lesbians/feminists feel inferior and defective because they aren’t men. This leads to jealousy and hatred. It’s always the lesbians looking to prove they are one of the boys by trying to butt into men’s sports or establishments. They hate the fact that they aren’t thought of as being the same as men. It’s why lesbians peddle the concept of “gender” so vigorously because it allows women to believe they can be men too if they “feel” like they are, or should be. The belief in gender allows these type of women to think that they can transcend biology and evolution, which they can’t. The whole concept of gender is anti-evolution.

Lesbians for the most part are seriously disturbed women who cannot process reality. It is why every time a new law or directive gets passed by the state that goes against all logic and reality, lesbians can be found to have played an integral part in it.

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gwallan October 14, 2011 at 20:42

@Renee…

That ISN’T all she did. The receipt in question has been reproduced in the media with details, including his signature, visible.

Where do you think they got it?

This is an extraordinary breach of privacy. Both she and her employer should be in very, very deep shite over this.

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Charles Martel October 14, 2011 at 20:59

The big picture here is the unreliability of eyewitness testimony. Victoria Liss was able to eyeball Andrew Meyer multiple times face to face for an extended period of time and she STILL fingered the wrong guy.

She’s done this before, falsely accusing two innocent men of hate crimes.

Women are particularly unreliable eyewitnesses as they live in a solipsistic world where what they wish to be quickly morphs into what is. Objective reality is just not their thing.

Many, many hundreds of innocent men are doing hard time for serious crimes based on the the false eyewitness testimony of women like Victoria Liss.

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Anti Idiocy October 14, 2011 at 21:32

@CorkyAgain “I’ve lost the link, but earlier today I read an article that says Liss might have invited the comment about her weight.”

Here’s something about that
http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/2011/10/andrew_meyer_capitol_hill_bar.php.
Just search the page for “Not sure if this is in fact the customer” and read on.

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CorkyAgain October 14, 2011 at 21:36

From the Stranger’s interview with Liss:

There are two things that led him to behave like that in my mind. He came in and I was, though I regret it now, very nice to him. Also, he ordered a taco and I recommended he get a double decker (he wasn’t drunk and I knew a taco wrapped in a bean taco would keep him undrunk). His lady friend called it “carb hell” so apparently it was a very offensive menu suggestion. He was dressed like “Boy” from Little Monsters with Fred Savage. I remember thinking when she put her gold Kate Spade purse on the bar, “I’m fucked.”

Oh yeah. Bitchy. Check out the Wikipedia article on “Kate Spade”, then take another look at Liss’s picture above, and maybe the dynamics of this little episode will come into focus for you.

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CorkyAgain October 14, 2011 at 21:44

@ Anti Idiocy

Yeah, that Yelp review was it, although I didn’t read it on that particular page.

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Alcuin October 14, 2011 at 21:58

Pro Male/Anti Feminist Tech: “Lynch mob is an apt metaphor for what happened to this man. There is a good deal of similarity between what this woman did and women in the post-Civil War South who lied by crying, “raaaayyyype!!!!!!!!!!” to get black men lynched.”

So basically it’s always been about false rape accusations.

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E October 14, 2011 at 22:08

Slicer

Lesbians/feminists feel inferior and defective because they aren’t men. This leads to jealousy and hatred. It’s always the lesbians looking to prove they are one of the boys by trying to butt into men’s sports or establishments.

yeah good point.
You never see men try to butt into female dominated establishments like: synchronized swimming, rhythmic gymnastics, beauty pageants, or whatever else that women dominate.

Notice the more male dominated an establishment is, the greater the obsession feminists have with trying to “prove” they are just as good as one of the boys examples: chess players, soldiers, engineering, etc… This is usually accomplished by picking an individual female of exceptional caliber and parading her around like some poster child.
Female Navy nuclear reactor engineer

Sometimes I wonder do these females understand that the reason why for every 1 of them there’s 10 men is because of biological predisposition? Or, despite their higher IQ, they are so blinded by their ideology that they ignorantly believe there will come a day where there will be a 50 / 50 split of males and females across the board?

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crella October 14, 2011 at 22:11

The yelp review doesn’t match the receipt in question…the review says ‘$10 margaritas’ and mentions two drinks each plus tacos. I think that would total more than $28.00…it would be funny if it were true, but I don’t think it adds up.

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CorkyAgain October 14, 2011 at 22:33

@ crella

I agree, the total on the bill doesn’t seem to match. But the rest of the story sure seems to. And remember, the yelp review describes the events through the eyes of the customer — and is probably colored by at least as much self-serving bias and exaggeration as Liss’s account.

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evilwhitemalempire October 14, 2011 at 22:45

Troll King October 14, 2011 at 13:57
Am I the only one that finds it wierd that they will use a Y in the word women because they hate men so much while they don’t have a Y-chromosome? Then they turn around and rebrand boy with a I and spell it boi because they hate masculinity or maleness so much? Do they choose the I do to the fact they don’t have a Y-chromosome and they are jealous. What is going on here?

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No human is purely masculine or feminine.

Sexuality is ‘analog’ not ‘digital’ (all ON or all OFF) like computer circuits.

Females that are more masculine than average female constitute the bulk of feminists.

These freaks hate ANYTHING to do with traditional sexuality.

To put it into perspective imagine if you lived on a planet where everyone expected you to dress and act as a female?
Soon you’d be hating on all the words too.

Not saying we should feel sorry for them but we do need to understand the enemy.

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evilwhitemalempire October 14, 2011 at 22:59

Greyghost

Feral women measure their status and worth by how big of a burden they can be on everybody else.

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Nearly ALL women measure their status and worth by how big of a burden they can be on everybody else.
Being a burden is how parasitic manipulators optimize their genetic survival.

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crella October 14, 2011 at 23:59

CorkyAgain, I agree, it makes sense dialogue-wise…that kind of remark is not something I see someone making with no prompting. Who does that, goes out to eat, enjoys their meal , and then writes ‘you need to lose a few pounds’ (spelling corrected :-D ) on their receipt? That’s just strange.

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E October 15, 2011 at 00:03

evilwhitemalempire

These freaks hate ANYTHING to do with traditional sexuality.

To put it into perspective imagine if you lived on a planet where everyone expected you to dress and act as a female?
Soon you’d be hating on all the words too.

I think a more accurate analogy would be imagine you got sent to some other planet where men generally dressed and acted feminine, but if any man chooses to live a masculine life (while he may stand out from the crowd) society basically tolerates it.

Butch Lesbians feminists are free to purse 99% of the exact same damn thing that everyone else does in life: go to college, choose a career, try to find true love, get a home mortgage, have kids, save up for their retirement. When you sit down and make an itemized list of all the freedoms gays are allowed to pursue the argument that gays are a discriminated minority group falls apart. Nobody expects a butch Lesbian to act feminine, they are free to do whatever the hell they want.

The only real discrimination that exists in our society is against white men who are expected to bend over backwards and apologize to any other group who wish to imagine they have been offended in some way.

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CorkyAgain October 15, 2011 at 01:13

@ Crella

It’s the possible white-knighting aspect of this that interests (and amuses) me.

Yuppy white knight and his Kate Spade carrying girlfriend meet tubby Capitol Hill hipster, with predictable catty animosity, overreaction, and innocent bystanders harmed as a result. That’s something that seems so in character for the Seattle scene. But maybe you have to live here to get the joke…

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evilwhitemalempire October 15, 2011 at 01:19

E
When you sit down and make an itemized list of all the freedoms gays are allowed to pursue the argument that gays are a discriminated minority group falls apart. Nobody expects a butch Lesbian to act feminine, they are free to do whatever the hell they want.

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Yes. I see what you’re getting at.

What they’re really after is to normalize their condition.
They’re not content to just go THEIR own way. They want to impose their way on everyone else.

Perhaps this is because in the brains of such females the narcissism and solipsisim common to the female mind is combined with male type aggression.

Maybe this is THE principal reason feminists are the pain they are.

For example this waitress’ reactions are the result of typical female reaction to being called fat magnified by masculine type aggression.
And her friends are typical female support group also magnified by male aggression.

And that’s how (and the only way how really) a lynch mob could ever start over something this trivial.

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CorkyAgain October 15, 2011 at 01:53

I don’t think the waitress’s response was masculine-style aggression.
It was a typically female way to fight.

A man, if the provocation was such that he couldn’t simply walk away from it, would have just hauled off and hit the little yuppy bastard.

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Avenger October 15, 2011 at 01:55

This fat female waitress is a good example o what happens when the proles get their hands on computers and technology. Cell phones are another good example. This stuff are like toys for the masses. You only have to read blogs and comments’ sections of papers to see how stupid the great unwashed are. This is the silent majority. Mothers used to let the TV babysit their kids but now the kids have computers and can annoy all of us lol

Here’s an article about HS girl cheerleaders not being permitted to wear a pink breast cancer shirts.

http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/health/2011/10/14/2011-10-14_cheerleaders_banned_from_wearing_breast_cancer_awareness_tshirts_feel_for_lumps_.html

The comments obviously made by kids are simply childish. And why would 16yo girls be concerned with a disease that effects females over 40 except that they’re just looking for attention themselves. Would 16yo boys be worried about prostate cancer which effects some older men? The biggest killer is coronary and circulatory diseases with cancer a distant 2nd in the older groups but this effects a lot more men than females. It’s not until the age of 75 that heart disease kills almost as many females as men but by this age the average man has been dead for 3 years lol

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CorkyAgain October 15, 2011 at 01:59

FWIW, I think leaving a snarky note on the credit card receipt and then beating feet out the door is also a female way to fight. If the waitress offended this guy and his girlfriend so much, why didn’t they confront her face-to-face?

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Avenger October 15, 2011 at 02:17

The girls must be getting desparate because here we have another stupid article about how you live longer if you’re married.

http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/health/2011/10/14/2011-10-14_marriage_may_keep_cancer_patients_healthier_than_their_single_bachelor_counterpa.html

Sure, spend 50 miserable years just to get another year alive in the old age home at the end of your life which are the crappy years. lol

I actually believe that marriage shortens a man’s life (and certainly his happiness) and that these statistics are skewered.
You see, there are always a few percent of the population who have medical conditions, disabilities, psychiatric conditions etc that are going to shorten their lives. Men who have these conditions will never get a female to marry them but a female can get a man regardless of how ugly, fat or crazy she is and there is always an available supply of suckers who will marry her so any female who wants a man can get one. And if she becomes sick there’s always a husband around to take care of her in addition to all of the services and supports that females get. A disabled man gets no support and may be left to die even by his relatives. The only way a female would marry him is if he had some big disability pension or settled some lawsuit for a lot of money.

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Skeptic October 15, 2011 at 02:55

Fat chance she’s got of getting more tips!
She throws a big wobbly and blubbers to her mates.
Obviously she’s hungry for attention.
She really should weigh things up instead of going belly up.

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evilwhitemalempire October 15, 2011 at 02:57

CorkyAgain October 15, 2011 at 01:53
I don’t think the waitress’s response was masculine-style aggression.
It was a typically female way to fight.

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Perhaps I should have worded it differently.
It WAS a typical female way to fight (no question there) but driven, amped-up in motivation by higher than normal T level for female.
The hormone is male but the software being driven by that hormone is basally female.
More specifically higher T more strongly stimulates receptors for ‘be a bitch’ modules (instead of say ‘take a swing’ modules) because being female makes ‘be a bitch’ modules more prominent to start with.

Heh. Ironic then that the worlds most hated organic molecule can and does ALSO drive misandry.
Now these are the kinds of philosophical pondering you’ll never hear from them.

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crella October 15, 2011 at 04:10

Renee, here’s a link to The Mail Online where she admits in an interview that she put up the wrong man’s picture-

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2048367/Bimbos-waitress-Victoria-Liss-launches-hunt-tipper-Andrew-Meyer.html

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PeterTheGreat October 15, 2011 at 04:54

Speaking of breast cancer, the whole thing is a big scam. The major cause of breast cancer was disclosed in 1995 in “Dressed to Kill”, by Sydney Ross Singer and Soma Grismaijer, a husband and wife medical anthropologist team. They found that the leading cause of breast cancer is underwire bras which stop breast lymph drainage.

Of course the main cause of breast cancer would be that women either don’t breed and/or don’t use their breasts to nurture their young.

Of course the bra companies were all over this trying to debunk their findings, just as the baby formula companies deny their complicity in breast cancer, not to mention poor infant nutrition and diseases therefrom.

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crella October 15, 2011 at 05:13

On ABC News’ site, she says:
““So sorry to the wrong guy, everyone please just drop it?” she wrote Tuesday.

“Honestly I have been hiding in bed with the covers over my head for 2 days so upset for the Wrong Andrew Meyers getting hate mail. I still feel so sick over it,” Liss followed up with on Wednesday.”

Just drop it!? You wish….

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Dj October 15, 2011 at 05:57

I wonder if Futrelle has got a blow job out of Vicki yet?

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Dj October 15, 2011 at 06:23

“If your favorite pub makes the mistake of hiring a feminist a-hole, it’s actually pretty easy to get rid of her. Complain to the owner. ”

My friend owns a pub, he hired not 1, not 2 but 3 angry lesbos. I haven’t stepped foot in there in 6 months, nor do I intend to ever again. Business is suffering apparently.

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keyster October 15, 2011 at 08:05

“Of course the main cause of breast cancer would be that women either don’t breed and/or don’t use their breasts to nurture their young.”

And don’t forget birth control pills and various other hormone treatments meant to trick the body’s natural course.

The female was designed to gestate, give birth to and nurture offspring. The fact that she’s waiting until the tail end of her fertility period, if she has children at all, is not natural and not good for the body (or psychological well-being).

Don’t mention this to the pink crazy “Fight for the Cure” crowd. Because prevention is not the solution, if it means women must accept womanhood; marry and give birth at a more biologically natural age.

Don’t even get me started on the REAL statistics (they don’t want you to see), on how the rise of autism correlates to parental age. Feminism holds sway over the facts.

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Anti Idiocy October 15, 2011 at 08:26

Too bad this will be buried in a long thread, it’s important and relates in general to attacks by women against men.

It hasn’t been tried yet, so there’s been no conviction. Nevertheless, if it’s proven in court, it can be used as a counter to feminists who say men can’t be raped because they can’t get an erection and ejaculate without wanting too and effectively giving consent.

3 women in Zimbabwe charged in series of sex attacks on men
http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/15/world/africa/zimbabwe-sperm/index.html

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Anti Idiocy October 15, 2011 at 08:31

Also related to attacks by women against men, take a look at this:

Police: Cashier beats unruly customers during argument
http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/15/justice/new-york-fast-food-beating/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Also, read some of the comments. Some manginas make comments about how a man should never hit a woman, but a large number support the man for defending himself and for continuing to subdue the women when they tried to stand and possibly renew their attack.

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mananon October 15, 2011 at 09:01

Oh, and for Manbooby trolls: ask your Manbooby if he’s OK with feminists smearing randomly selected men, seeking to damage their reputation, just for the heck of it. See if he can come up with an answer.

Don’t bother to post it here, though. No one cares that SteppinFetchit says anyway.

Anonymous Reader

Actually it seems a lot of what appears on Manboobz gets posted here first. Perhaps Welmer could sue Futrelle for breach of copyright…

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Firepower October 15, 2011 at 09:33

Dj

I wonder if Futrelle has got a blow job out of Vicki yet?

Futrelle ain’t into
teh blowjobs

WHAT makes you think
“he” has a dick

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Deborah October 15, 2011 at 09:43

I waited tables and bartended throughout my 20′s. There are few other jobs that give one immediate control over their earnings, the better you treat your customer the more you are likely to earn. A simple concept and I thrived in that environment, to treat a customer poorly is to shoot yourself in the foot.

Nevertheless, there were always others on staff that could not wrap their heads around the concept and seemed to think that the simple fact that they showed up for work entitled them to a gratuity. Clearly this Liss character falls into that category, she fails to understand that in her role SHE is the product for which the gratuity is based upon, so that her packaging as well as her demeanor are the basis for determining whether to tip or not and how much.

Fat, sloppy and surly servers do not earn as much as well-kept, neat and pleasant servers. Pure free-market principles at work.

Using the internet to shame and attack folks for personal grievances is such a gross abuse that all the shame this nasty piece of work Liss sought to rain down upon her victim should rightly bommerang and land squarely at her doorstep, she has revealed herself to be a rude slob, hence the lack of gratuity that started the whole episode seems to have been appropriate.

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Dj October 15, 2011 at 09:51

lol!

touche

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W.F. Price October 15, 2011 at 09:51

Actually it seems a lot of what appears on Manboobz gets posted here first. Perhaps Welmer could sue Futrelle for breach of copyright…

-manon

That doesn’t bother me, but what does annoy me is the fact that the guy is a garden variety thought-police type who is simply trying to shut down other opinions rather than make any arguments or seriously present any alternative. I’d actually appreciate some arguments and some constructive ideas from feminists, but it seems the only tools they’ve got are blame and censorship.

Dj October 15, 2011 at 09:56

As for my friend’s pub – the lesbo staff are some of the rudest bitches I ever encountered. You should see the way they speak to the regulars. These are guys rightly or wrongly who spend thousands of dollars in his pub, only to get constantly shat on.

They started with me as well, and I’m old friends with the owners, their bosses, so I can only imagine how they treat everyone else.

Like I said, myself and several other young men who earn decent money have stopped going in their completely. We’re their bread and butter, so it’s pretty foolish to hire man hating lesbos and skank bitches if you’re in the service industry.

I said to my mate, “Look, I can get shit on for a lot less than 7.50 a pint, see ya”

Feminists and lesbos ruin everything with their shit attitudes.

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Dj October 15, 2011 at 09:59

Welmer – you’re correct – if you make any point the freaks at manboobz immediately go on the personal attack. These are people who defend homosexuals but are the first to use accusations of being gay as a slur. Makes no sense whatsoever.

If it wasn’t for the spearhead manboobz would never have any topics.

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MWPeak October 15, 2011 at 10:00

I would be nice if women actually valued their own bodies as much as they demand men should. Then maybe they would eat healthier and live healthier and not be so offended when their bad habits earn them a snide remark from men who do not find big women to be beautiful.

Grief, when a man has an unhealthy lifestyle, women have no qualms about avoiding such a man on dating scene. Men, however, do not take offense. They take a ride down to the gym.

Oh, and they stop drinking Dr. Pepper, which fat women seem to love, and switch to Dr. Pepper 1o, a man’s drink. (jk)

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Dj October 15, 2011 at 10:04

Victoria Liss has now announced to the world that not only is she overweight and unattractive, but that she’s also a vindictive busy-body. Kind of backfired on her a la Ms. Bereznak.

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Firepower October 15, 2011 at 10:24

W.F. Price

…what does annoy me is the fact that the guy is a garden variety thought-police type who is simply trying to shut down other opinions rather than make any arguments or seriously present any alternative. I’d actually appreciate some arguments and some constructive ideas from feminists, but it seems the only tools they’ve got are blame and censorship.

THIS HAS become the “American way” for the 21st century.

You even see it here, as well; argument (the textbook exercise) with idiots is about them shouting you down with irrelevant ad hominem because they have no point. They don’t even realize they have no point.

This is characteristic of not just feminazis, but everyone “educated” in western societies. When the majority of the audience can’t figure that out, then the status quo has won.

What are all Liberal blogs, but hysterical disinformation spread with bullshit frosting.

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Firepower October 15, 2011 at 10:28

Dj

As for my friend’s pub – the lesbo staff are some of the rudest bitches I ever encountered.

This occurs here, also: A great bar owned by regular guys used to have eye-candy spinners in tight t-shirts and jeans, 35 kinds of beer/ale and great burgers was taken over by WOMEN owners with fugly lesbos in short, butch haircuts.

No longer a place to get drunk on great beer and whiskey, it was like going to Thanksgiving at gf’s aunt’s.

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keyster October 15, 2011 at 11:02

“I’d actually appreciate some arguments and some constructive ideas from feminists, but it seems the only tools they’ve got are blame and censorship.”

This is what passes for satire delivered as ” comedy entertainment” on the Daily Show, Real Time and The Late Show; because mockery, ridicule and personal insults is what younger people (a huge Democrat voting bloc), relate to better than balanced thoughtful analysis and opinion.

Once you get into deconstructing ideology through fisking actual data, the kids and single women get confused and frustrated and get personal or employ subterfuge tactics of “truthyness”, (if they’re even capable of that much). If they can somehow obfuscate enough from the original point, they’ll convince themselves that they’re at least right about something, walking away with esteem and self-assurance intact for another day.

All they know is what celebrities and their writers tell them. It supports and continues the indocrination process they endure in our halls of academia.

As far as pleasant female wait-staff or otherwise; this is why men have to go to strip clubs to be treated with any respect from women…and even then…

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oddsock October 15, 2011 at 11:58

Firepower

Dj

I wonder if Futrelle has got a blow job out of Vicki yet?

Futrelle ain’t into
the blowjobs

WHAT makes you think
“he” has a dick”

lol. Now thats more like it Firepower. Attacking them is much more productive and often makes you grin.

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Rocco October 15, 2011 at 21:46

@ Keyster

I have even read that male porn stars from Europe refuse to work with american pornstarts because they have such a hatered of men, and love to show it.

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Rocco October 15, 2011 at 22:39

OT

Article on how suicide is the biggest cause of death for men under 35. Do they even put that in the title? No.

How many comments: 5 barely.

If this was about the new 23 year old Demi Moore is getting used by….2000+…..just to let you know what the interest of the new ruling elite put in place by the PTB.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/you/article-2047921/Silent-taboo-suicide-young-men-UK.html

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andybob October 15, 2011 at 23:02

“These are people who defend homosexuals but are the first to use accusations of being gay as a slur. Makes no sense whatsoever.” DJ

It makes perfect sense when you remember that they are hypocrites whose stock-in-trade is bigotry and shaming tactics. They do it because, unfortunately, it usually works on straight men. When they do it to me, I tell them that I am gay and get the satisfaction of watching them turn insisde out like salt-encrusted slugs.

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evilwhitemalempire October 16, 2011 at 00:54

It makes perfect sense when you remember that they are hypocrites whose stock-in-trade is bigotry and shaming tactics.

*************

Heh.

Man walks up to pole dancer, points finger and say’s “You’re a cock teaser!”
The pole dancer replies “No I’m not! I’m a man pleaser.”

Later a wallflower walks up to same pole dancer, points finger and say’s “You’re a man pleaser!”
The pole dancer replies “No I’m not! I’m a cock teaser.”

Of course feminism doesn’t make any rational sense. It isn’t supposed to. You will never never NEVER reconcile it’s myriad contradictions.

Feminism isn’t a battle over any one particular political plank.
It’s a battle of essence.

That essence is masculinized females and their (runt) male sycophants trying to flip the biological script and enabling loads of misandry in the process.

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Dj October 16, 2011 at 03:57

Gents – life only starts to make sense once you realise that white women absolutely hate men and they hate themselves. Once you digest that piece of ‘logic’ it all starts falling into place.

A good friend of mine married a Jamaican girl – I joked to her that I was rummaging through her purse and put pin pricks in her box of condoms so she could have his bambinos. She joked back that those were for all her other boyfriends. I said, “What are you, a white woman?” She burst out laughing and agreed that white women are the ones who cheat all the time. I said that’s precisely why I stay the fuck away from them. Which prompted her to set me up with her Asian girlfriend.

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Dj October 16, 2011 at 04:03

andybob – I did that the other night. A young girl kept calling my friend and I gay because we were having a quiet pint together and chatting on a tuesday night; she didn’t agree with our political discussion.

A week later she came in with all he friends, and I remarked, “Oh look, it’s that woman who hates gay people.”

Well, she turned all shades of red. I’m sure she won’t be making comments like that too readily in the future.

Shaming can work both ways I suppose.

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Dj October 16, 2011 at 04:21

Vicki kinda reminds me of Snooki

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Avenger October 16, 2011 at 05:00

The Meyer who was defamed has a lawyer and will get some money out of this. Businesses usually carry business insurance packages which cover numerous things and this would be included. The company will probably have to settle with Meyer :)

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Avenger October 16, 2011 at 05:02

And btw, the lardarsed waitress will probably be fired. The insurance co. paying out on the claim may even demand that the owner fire her because she is a liability.

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Anonymous October 16, 2011 at 08:12

Metafilter cannot be said to lean right or be anti-feminist. But it is in agreement with what is said here in his instance. And it contains much valuable additional information, such as the fact she previously had men jailed after making false accusations.

http://www.metafilter.com/108432/When-Digital-Shaming-Goes-Too-Far

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MSFM October 16, 2011 at 08:46

@Rocco October 15, 2011 at 22:39 / OT

Article on how suicide is the biggest cause of death for men under 35. Do they even put that in the title? No.
How many comments: 5 barely.
If this was about the new 23 year old Demi Moore is getting used by….2000+…..just to let you know what the interest of the new ruling elite put in place by the PTB.

Rocco,

Agreed.

Gotta love this highlighted comment:

‘It’s one of the few things that men are better at than women. And because of the way in which they try to kill themselves, they are more likely to succeed’

Really?

One of the few things men do better than women is kill themselves?

An article on men taking their own lives out of despair and the first comment in bold is a glaring anti-male sentiment.

Big surprise.

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Jack Marshall October 16, 2011 at 17:32

Deborah: “fat, sloppy” waitresses may not earn as much in tips, but that is bias, not fairness, if the tipper is rewarding appearances rather than service. It’s not a beauty contest or a cotillion. Even then, the size of the tip is the verdict—scrawling gratuitous insults on bills is just boorish and rude. It doesn’t justify what Liss did, but those here who seem to think insulting people about their appearance is appropriate need some basic manners and common sense, badly and quick

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W.F. Price October 16, 2011 at 17:40

It doesn’t justify what Liss did, but those here who seem to think insulting people about their appearance is appropriate need some basic manners and common sense, badly and quick

-Jack Marshall

It’s just hyperbole — I don’t moderate comments and people tend not to restrain themselves much, unlike in a typical social setting.

Eincrou October 16, 2011 at 18:16

Jack Marshall: “that is bias, not fairness, if the tipper is rewarding appearances rather than service. It’s not a beauty contest or a cotillion.”

No, no. Do not tell other men what qualities they should value when they give tips.

Respect other people’s diversity. Acknowledge that the appearance of their hostess may make their evening more pleasant. More pleasant = more given in tip. All is as it should be.

Regardless, it is completely impossible for you to enforce your own personal standards that you’re so convinced are The Truth™.

Men will tip more or less based on whatever they damn well please, and you will do exactly nothing to stop them.

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Muk October 16, 2011 at 21:45

lolol
I should do something like that
They can’t really do any harm to me
and it would be great fun to laugh at their indignation

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Masculist Man October 17, 2011 at 02:11

Oh, and for Manbooby trolls: ask your Manbooby if he’s OK with feminists smearing randomly selected men, seeking to damage their reputation, just for the heck of it. See if he can come up with an answer.

I’ll second that. Okay futrelle’s fools what does your leader have to say about this one?

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Masculist Man October 17, 2011 at 02:20

The men stopping violence crowd is very popular.

They are so popular they have friends up the ass…literally.

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AntZ October 17, 2011 at 06:36

“Deborah: “fat, sloppy” waitresses may not earn as much in tips, but that is bias, not fairness, if the tipper is rewarding appearances rather than service … those here who seem to think insulting people about their appearance is appropriate need some basic manners and common sense, badly and quick”

YOU need to learn some basic manners and common sense. It does not escape the notice of every MRA that you use the word WAITRESSES, as though that job is only available to women.

The fact that attractive women enjoy a hiring and earning advantage in this profession (and indeed dominate the market) is a primarily an indication of sexism against MEN. At least some women have a shot at a decent wage in the service industry (including other forms of sales). Men need not apply at all, attractive or not.

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crypter27 October 17, 2011 at 08:13

This reminds of a joke that I told a big women once,I was living with my dad at the time & my little bro had some people over hanging out then this big women comes in. Which happens to be our neighbor & proclaims to the entire room,I need some thing to lift me up & I said with a grin on my face. Sorry I don’t have a forklift ,I got the whole room laughing & then she started crying ! And all the sudded I’m the asshole of the week,even though I was only joking & thus didn’t mean any harm. I found out the hardway that women aren’t like men when it comes to humor!

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Ken October 17, 2011 at 08:40

The “Service” Industry is becoming THE job market for skanks, puds, and general nver-do-wells almost as a whole these days….this is not surprising considering similar types of waitresses I see in just about every type of restaurant I venture into.

NO FAT CHICKS! :)

Ken

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David K. Meller October 17, 2011 at 13:27

This thoroughly ugly and disgusting incident should never have happened. That diner should never have been licensed to open or serve food to human beings (on health hazard, if no other grounds), that grotesque “waitress” should never have been hired, and any customers of a place called “Bimbo’s Cantina”, or “Bitches Burrito Kitchen” could truthfully offer the interior of his skull to a science lab as the world’s perfect vacuum!

I certainly hope that future customers (if any) of such a madhouse take this loathsome incident, and it perpetrator(s) into consideration.

PEACE AND FREEDOM!
David K. Meller

PS–What was that idiot thinking? I don’t like to “blame the victim”, but knowing how sensitive some women are about being grossly fat, is mocking them about it in public a smart thing to do, manners notwithstanding?! DKM

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!!SPARTA!! October 17, 2011 at 13:37

Anyone else notice that the commenting here is way up?
when I first started like 6 months ago
most articles pulled ~50 comments
now 100+ seems to be the norm
I’m kind of interested in the traffic levels

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Eincrou October 17, 2011 at 14:07

AntZ“It does not escape the notice of every MRA that you use the word WAITRESSES, as though that job is only available to women.”

No, AntZ. He said ‘waitresses’ because that is the context in which he was choosing to speak. You totally made this shit up about him supposedly that implying there are only female waitresses.

Arguing in bad faith by lying about your opponent will cause even your allies (like me) to be upset with you.

The fact that attractive women enjoy a hiring and earning advantage in this profession (and indeed dominate the market) is a primarily an indication of sexism against MEN.

Again, no. Attractive women earn an advantage because men appreciate beautiful female caretakers. This is true whether they are going to a restaurant, massage parlor, ordering a soda aboard an aircraft, or having their IV medication replaced in the hospital.

Companies like these want to have beautiful women serve their male customers, who will be more pleased with the service if the woman is good looking, all else being equal. Therefore, the companies will give preference or offer higher wages to good looking women.

This is all voluntary, and all done to ultimate benefit male customers. The free market is working as it ought to.

You’re into this radical-masculism stuff way too deep, bro. It’s caused you to become so mindlessly pro-male that your thought processes have deteriorated into shallowness.

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Eincrou October 17, 2011 at 14:10

¡¡SPARTA!!: “Anyone else notice that the commenting here is way up?”

Yeah, I’ve noticed comment counts are up. As always, it’s mostly the same people posting multiple times, but we have a few more regular commenters than before — even as some like SingleDad have stopped posting.

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W.F. Price October 17, 2011 at 14:15

Anyone else notice that the commenting here is way up?
when I first started like 6 months ago
most articles pulled ~50 comments
now 100+ seems to be the norm
I’m kind of interested in the traffic levels

-Sparta

Comments were at their highest level a long time ago, then decreased a bit recently, and are now going back up. Traffic hit a peak about six months ago (when there were fewer comments ironically), then subsided in the summer, and is now going back up.

Deborah October 17, 2011 at 14:51

“Deborah: “fat, sloppy” waitresses may not earn as much in tips, but that is bias, not fairness…”

@Jack Marshall

You missed my point. A waitress is selling a product for tips and that product is in part herself. Packaging and presentation, as with any product, are part of the equation. Also, unattractive is not relegated to ones looks alone. I’ve met some physically attractive folks who were quite unattractive once they opened their mouths. It would seem to me that the waitress in question has earned the description.

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CorkyAgain October 18, 2011 at 14:36

I’ve met some physically attractive folks who were quite unattractive once they opened their mouths. It would seem to me that the waitress in question has earned the description.

No, she doesn’t fit that description. She’s not physically attractive and her behavior is repulsive. Two strikes against her, not one.

But given the gist of the rest of your comment, we can probably assume that you agree, but that you mangled what you were trying to say.

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knett October 20, 2011 at 10:58

Wow, is all I can say…..The “man” that left that note was behaving like a 16 yr old, and the “woman” that was with him obviously has self-esteem issues to be with a loser like him.

Chin up girlfriend, you obviously have more class than the party of two that you served put together…………..!

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Joy October 20, 2011 at 16:40

Wow! They beat up a guy for drawing a penis on a fogged up window? Man haters much? When I was little my sister and I went thru a phase where we drew dirty pics and backward dirty words on the rear window of the car for the cars behind us. Titties and Penises mostly. Except that since we had no brothers, we only had a general idea of what a penis looked like but we still thought it was hysterical…
I wonder if there were any lesbians in the car behind us….

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