As I go through it all over again, I’m reminded of how utterly wasteful family law procedure is in the US. The loss of productivity, the missed chances for children of divorce and the unnecessary conflict it creates are such a hindrance that I wonder how we can afford it at all. In a sense, it’s a return to savagery, where, rather than turn their minds toward human progress, people wasted all their efforts on passing fancies, petty squabbles and vendettas.
Perhaps it’s significant that, over 40 years after the first moon landing, as of yesterday we no longer have a space program capable of launching people into orbit. Today, for most Americans, it’s all about the newest reality show, celebrity scandals and the next orgasm.
As for me, however this turns out, I just want to get back to work…
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Guess we’re stuck at type zero for a while longer
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Priorities it is. The Russians were in a gutter economically in the 1990′s, and only in the last decade had they been catching up a little, yet they still maintain their space programme.
Seeing that US universities abolish science departments, but have no problems maintaining their useless women studies departments, I suspect that the attitude of the government is the same.
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America has been in a downward spiral ever since feminism became mainstream in the 1960s.
Children of today are raised on garbage television shows. Women learn to act like Snooki from “Jersey Shore” and men are told to be a woman’s punching bag like the men in “Everybody Loves Raymond.” Remember ladies, you have superhuman strength. Like the female cops on TV, you have the ability to toss a 300 pound man across the room with a flick of your wrist. Remember men, you are all idiots and have the intelligence of Homer Simpson or Peter Griffin.
Children are stuck in an education system that poisons their minds for decades. If boys act like boys, they get drugs like Ritalin shoved down their throats and are ignored or punished by women who have an ax to grind with the male gender. Girls love school. School is the place where they learned that all men are evil and women teachers fawn all over them with attention. There are no male teachers, because we all know that men only want to be around children so they can molest them (sarcasm).
Teenage girls love themselves some sex. Remember girls, being a slut is a good thing. Don’t worry about becoming a single mother or getting infected with STDs. Guys, you are lucky women pay any attention to you at all. Oh, and don’t you even think about talking to a girl. You should only speak when spoken to, you worthless male. It is also your duty to initiate physical contact with a woman, but only if she wants it. I know you can get arrested or have a lawsuit filed against you if the contact is unwanted by the woman, so you better be an excellent mind-reader.
I could go on and on………….
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“Today, for most Americans, it’s all about the newest reality show, celebrity scandals and the next orgasm.”
We’ve grown complacent and soft, like the Roman’s became before the Visigoths approached the city gates. Our women think they’re men, and our men are too weak (and afraid of disapproval from women) to be men. We’re overly consumed with pleasing our women and enforcing the myth of gender equanimity, at the expense of evolving our education system and workforce to better compete globally.
This realization fuels the Jihadists vision of conquering the west and creating a worldwide Islamic utopia. To them it’s only a matter of time.
Let the record show the decline and fall of the west began in the 1960′s with the rise to power of the counter-culture and reforming of the establishment into post-modern idealism; where we abandoned the concept of human nature and become deluded by our own egos.
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Lawyers are the scum that plan the machinery, write the instructions and finally, run the machinery.
All… to enrich THEMSELVES.
You’ll even get no satisfaction imagining they feel the least bit guilty about their evil dishonesty.
They are the dangerous “true believers” that happily put folks into 0vens for “the common good.”
Whenever you meet a lawyer socially, make it very uncomfortably difficult for them: Simply tell them your opinion of their low profession.
You still do have that right.
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“Let the record show the decline and fall of the west began in the 1960?s with the rise to power of the counter-culture and reforming of the establishment into post-modern idealism;”
Nope. It started with women’s suffrage. For the U.S., August 18, 1920 was the day the U.S. caught terminal cancer like the rest of the western nations. It only seems like it started in the 1960′s because the cancer was slow moving at first.
As for right now, I honestly can’t tell if the U.S. is in a coma on life support or is already a cold body. But I don’t have any hope for a miracle cure.
Europe? It’s dead and being slowly buried by Islam. The Muslims are right that it’s only a matter of time. Europe will be a Muslim majority, Sharia law continent within 50-75 years. Poetic justice for the feminists who killed it. I hope their daughters enjoy wearing burkas and being stoned for even mentioning a “slut walk.”
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As Rome crumbled around the time of Christ, I understand that they were having a fertility crisis as well. Men either couldn’t or didn’t want to get married so the state started punishing them with taxes for childlessness.
Think of what you could do if you didn’t have to deal with divorce and family law. If that emotional, energetic and financial drain simply weren’t there…
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Get a vasectomy and don’t tell anyone. Every man for himself in these times.
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Hi Bill,
Just wondered what you meant when you write: “I just want to get back to work…”
I’m still ready to accomodate you if you ever travel to Paris.
Hope you are doing well in spite of the stress.
Nico
Nico
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Hold on. You’re mistaken.
The mission of NASA is to help muslims, not to explore outer space. This is now the top priotity of the agency.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/7875584/Barack-Obama-Nasa-must-try-to-make-Muslims-feel-good.html
Feminism is half of the problem. The other half is the affirmative action programs that legally exclude the very men who made the whole thing possible. It was not women or minorities who were in central command in 1969.
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I have a hard time not believing that this is all done by sheer design.
This is the result of a carefully laid out plan. Or it has been an incredibly long succession of bad lucks…like one chance in a gazillion.
At the top, there are heads with a strong need for severance from bodies they are unfortunately attached to.
I have the tool for it…
Lets get them heads rolling…
(horse riders in Afghanistan have a use for these heads: some kind of polo they play…)
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Most anything government run is wasteful of resources. In the private sector, wasteful failures are shutdown. In the government sector, no matter be it a program, panel, department, etc., failure means MORE money needs to be thrown at it.
To the ruling elite, it matters little since they have a globalist perspective. Their covert introduction and support of feminism to destroy the family and reduce the population, the constant economic bubbles and panics, endless wars – are all steps towards world governance.
The control of the MSM creates news that is all in lockstep, no matter which channel you watch or main stream publication you read. The destruction of our education system has created a true Boobus Americanus who is very easily controlled.
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Work is great Welmer. The main reason I have no use for females is that they steal the energy to create great work.
It used to be a man sought out a good woman to help in great achievement. Now the worse thing you can do is tie yourself to a woman, they are skilled at destroying their men, taking him apart like army aunts in Africa.
I am acheiving more than ever in my life now that I am done with court. My mother warns me about getting involved with a woman.
Women of previous generations could still achieve wisdom
I don’t think that is possible for our younger women.
Remember: Thomas Ball’s immolation, he gave his life for your children.
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Check this article out:
Man gets divorced, ex-wife falsely claims to the Bureau of Motor Vehicles that he has Narcolepsy and his drivers license gets suspended.
Then he has to go through hell dealing with an incompetent government agency to prove that he doesn’t have the condition.
Man’s Driver’s License Suspended For Condition He Doesn’t Have
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http://librivox.org/germania_tacitus/
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I note a number of comments here about Islam taking over the world with the Islamic immigration invasion of Europe posted as proof of this. Not mentioned by these posters is the fact that is was the Jews who let them in by tearing down the “whites only” immigration laws. Also ignored is the fact that during the heyday of the Christian-Islamic wars, the Jews were always the allies of the Moslems. It was the Jews who served as the tax collectors for the Islamic rulers of Spain, robbing the Christians blind on commission. It was the Jews expelled from Spain in 1492 who went to Ottoman Turkey where they became finance ministers and tax collectors for the Sultans, also reporting on Christian military weaknesses and incting Turkey to attack the Christians. The Jews spouting “Islamo-Fascism” nonsense carefully delete these historical facts while urging an all out war on Islam for Israel’s benefit. And, as I have repeatedly pointed out, the American feminist movement from 1963 on has been like reading a roll call of Lenin and Stalin’s Jewish commissars. Betty Friedan, Gloria Steinem, Bella Abzug, Gloria Allred, Naomi Wolf, Linda Ellerbee, Adrienne Rich, Stefanie Coonitz, Eleanor Small, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara Boxer, the list is endless.
Mr. Price to the contrary, twentieth century feminism did not begin with Victorian women, many of whom were flaming white supremacists. It began with a subversive “nation within the nation” of well documented Communist proclivities. That is the hard fact – and any attempt to prove me wrong is futile.
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I’ve said it before and I’ll keep saying it – family law practitioners are social predators of the worst sort and a man’s family and children are to be freely exploited to get at his bank account. They deserve the consequences of such acts.
The complete abolition of family law as a practice and all of it’s trappings is the only solution. If that is even possible (short of a revolution) it will start with changing the public’s perception of family law as a predatory practice.
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Dear Welmer:
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“Perhaps it’s significant that, over 40 years after the first moon landing, as of yesterday we no longer have a space program capable of launching people into orbit. Today, for most Americans, it’s all about the newest reality show, celebrity scandals and the next orgasm.”
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In other words, the US slid from PRODUCTION to CONSUMPTION, from being the USA to the FMA, from purpose to drift. With no captain at the substantive helm of the ship, combined with the dolrums of indeterminism, directionlessness sets-in. Eve has staken over: Adam was dethroned and the castle is crumbling. Adam is denied authority to direct: Eve cares nothing to go anywhere.
Chain of Command:
GOOD BAD
God Snake
Adam Eve
Eve Adam
Snake (God refused to join the demise)
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Dear DT July 20, 2011 at 16:26:
“Nope. It started with women’s suffrage. For the U.S., August 18, 1920 was the day the U.S. caught terminal cancer like the rest of the western nations. It only seems like it started in the 1960?s because the cancer was slow moving at first.”
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In the saga of book research, I’ve established that over the centuries, the men (at women’s nagging insistance) incrementally allowed women out of the kitchen to rule areas which men should have maintained.
During the 1800s, in the UK, women were allowed into post-secondary institutions, then more and more faculties, then they were allowed financially paid employment in various areas. Then they were allowed to own land and then a whole lot else. WWI allowed them into the factories, etc. WWII allowed them into even more. In the 1800s, churches made the error of letting women rule (ITimothy 2&3 disallow such with great wisdom). Women were given preference in the teaching industry (a government industry) and the churches followed the state (instead of following God who stated clearly that men should teach, not women)….
The cancer mestastizied variously. It is generally through publicity that state votes are held to be THE cause for the cancer of today (which, in great part, they were/are/continue to be).
Feminine rule cancers much and that cancer spreads infecting the whole, through its many parts.
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Family law as we know it is the main source of fatherless children. Given how fatherless children are proliferating like no tomorrow, the problems associated with fatherlessness are also rising like a Saturn 5 moon rocket on blastoff.
People raised without fathers understand each other better than people raised with fathers. Now we see white kids listening to rap, occasionally getting cornrows, and often hanging around with kids whose ethnic group were the “pioneers” with mass fatherlessness. We are seeing that fatherlessness screws kids up as an equal opportunity destroyer. A society cannot function like that.
Feminism will ultimately accomplish what mere driving planes into buildings can’t. Osama bin Laden must be rolling over in his grave… laughing. And there is poetic justice awaiting daughters and grand daughters in Europe. When the West islamifies, they will pay the reparations for feminism by wearing burqas, getting stoned to death, etc.
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Dear Ryu July 20, 2011 at 17:09:
“Feminism is half of the problem. The other half is the affirmative action …”
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Affirmative Action is a part of Feminism: it is not a juxtaposition to it and my whole life is destroyed by it making the Feminist Problem THE issue in this essentially nonlife of mine.
The Wicked Jezebel Beast of Feminism has many arms:
Affirmative Action
Domestic Violence Propaganda
Women’s Government Schools, universities, community colleges
Parasite Leave
Women’s Government (and related) Instiutitons (Ministers Respnsible for the Status of Women, Women’s Councils, Political Parties’ Women’s caucuses, UN…)
Sensitivity Training Propaganda
Women’s Media Femocentrism & Misandry
Women’s Churches, Synagogues & Temples
etc., without end and ever-expanding….
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Dear Rebel July 20, 2011 at 17:10:
“I have a hard time not believing that this is all done by sheer design.”
Exactly. Read: HenryMakow.com where he presents evidence that the Feminist Problem is a funded movement by the Rockefellers, etc. who are in cahoots with Masons in London, UK who are Satan Worshipers. The whole movement is based in strategy on the Frankfurt movement (historically, Frankfurt is the geographic centre for panGermanism–before the dominance of Prussia over the Austra-exluded panGermanism–and Bismarck was a bureaucrat of long-standing in that Frankfurt bureaucracy).
The strategy of the Frankfurt Movement was to employ doctintaire Marxism, replacing the concept of, “Ruling Class” with, “Patriarchy” and, “the Opressed” with, “Women.”
The Rule of Eve over Adam (who decided to obey her–he was not deceived, he was a wimp who did not stand up to the woman) worked in the first place in making the whole world go to hell. This Neo-Garden-of-Eden-All-Gone-oo-Hell-because-of-the-rule-of-Eve-over-Adam has worked marvelously. And, behind Eve (and the funding agencies for her rule) is Satan.
It took some months for me to catch on, but the evidence is overwhelming.
Feminism is Satan’s version of, “Intelligent Design,” or Sin/Crime/Heresy/Hell on Earth Achieved.
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I do not disagree with Gender Foreigner – except to note that Makow is something of a disinformationist. He always wants to blame the Masons, the illuminati, the Rockefellers, etc. But while he will admit the deep Jewish involvement in everything he denounces, never will he admit that it’s them – and no one else.
Feminism obviously started before Betty Friedan but the driving force behind the movement is as I have stated.
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Dear SocietyisFdUp July 20, 2011 at 17:33:
Anarchy doesn’t work. Every society on Earth which has tried it has proven that. Romans 13:1-7 works.
Welmer is not useless. He is exercising good intent (as is Paul Elam–who is getting noticed and governments have acted for good/less bad as per his influence). Much can be said as per Fathers and Families (which has its increasing successes. MRAs on individual bases have had successes, including me. I’ve held my ground as per Feminazi children and some of them bowed to my stances. I will not move. Period.
There are always thieves, deceivers, criminals of various stripes and such need to be strained, including by the threat of force and the use of force. The Royal Canadian Mounted Police proved their effectiveness in Canada’s West during the late 1800s and early 1900s in this regard. And on a familial basis, Fathers are the ones to rule.
The book, The Garbage Generation PROVED beyond the shadow of a doubt, that men are the disciplinarians that women are not. Women’s rule equals substantive anarchy (notice how Feminist governments actually enforce anarchy via disallowances of fathers to discipline their children, etc.). Father rule means lower crime, better health, higher birth weights, lower suicide, higher production, longer life, etc. A ship needs a captain. A family needs a head; an arrow, its feathers; a bird, its wings; and a society, its governments.
Governments also do evil (as do anarchists), and for so doing, they are to be condemned (but condemnation itself is not anarchist, but organization and systematic). When police go onto strike, the criminals play all the more. Credible intimidation works in restraining such and what is wrong with many women (and the men who obey them) is a lack of intimidation to restrain them from doing wrong. In tandem, what is present is Feminist intimidation to restrain men (and women, boys & girls) from doing what is right.
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The problem with Adam, Eve and the snake is easy. The god failed to build Adam as an alpha. Thus, Eve was able to dominate as Adam was a measly beta.
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Dear SocietyisFdUp July 20, 2011 at 17:33:
“Until you plant libertarian, anti-big guv seeds of wisdom into the manosphere…”
There certainly is way too much government. Such, “social safety nets, etc.” are intended to enable women, especially TO AVOID RESPONSIBILITY, that is to say, to ENABLE THEM TO BE SUBSTANTIVE ANARCHISTS.
To a great degree, people should not be insulated from the ill effects of their ill decisions and intents. They should reap what they sow. Success should succeed and failure should fail. Responisiblity is what is needed (and the parasitism and unaccountability of the female, especially the Western one needs to be eliminated). Irresponsibility programs need to be eliminated.
Consider the, “Sexual Harassment” as per pregnancy. Such is designed to make the slut female unaccountable for being a parasite, parasite factory, crime factory, low self-esteem factory, etc.
Women’s not having to go to war even though they have the right to vote for it, it given to unrestraint of war and increase of war (the evidence establishes such–I’ve done my homework on that one, too).
Women not having to pay various taxes while designing taxes against men seeks to eliminate restraint on taxes and actually encourage them…
There is truth to the spirit of some of the things you say, but one does not have to be an anarchist to embrace them. I would shut down so very very much government starting with ALL Feminist programs, women’s participation in the armed forces and police (and ALL other peace officers of state, save, except very very limited direct-contact jail guards for female inmates only). I would eliminate women’s votes, all Affirmative Action, baby murder on demand, government grants for all kinds of irresponsiblity….
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@Welmer
There is a comment that I’ve neglected to make as you’ve recounted your recent experience that I think is important. You have one thing that most of us who’ve been through the meat grinder of kangaroo family court never have, and that is the TS community. The lot of us don’t always agree and we may snipe at one another from time to time, but I think we’re all behind you.
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Taqman I read the article and it was another case of a woman lieing to the law and the law just running with it. But man, the last line of the article just kills me. Oh wifey didn’t like the lack of eat pray love life style she was enjoying. And good oh beta boy I guess didn’t quite suffer enough to get his red pill. And we finish with this from the article.
“Allen and his wife have since gotten back together”
We are doomed I tell you!
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“Nope. It started with women’s suffrage. For the U.S., August 18, 1920 was the day the U.S. caught terminal cancer like the rest of the western nations. It only seems like it started in the 1960?s because the cancer was slow moving at first.”
If the birth of the decline was women’s suffrage, the results of it were institutionalized in the 60′s, when women became an identifiable victim class, divided from and against men as victimizers. Even the original suffragettes would cringe at what’s become of society, as a result of their efforts.
Just as politicians are beginning to court the growing hispanic population for votes, they courted women in the 1920′s. Females are the majority base of the democratic party today.
The right to vote emboldened them to keep pressing for more privilages as a special group, and this fight continues in legislative buildings and courts across the land. That’s why NOW as branch offices in almost every state capital city.
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W.F. Price
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“As I go through it all over again, I’m reminded of how utterly wasteful family law procedure is in the US. The loss of productivity, the missed chances for children of divorce and the unnecessary conflict it creates “.
So sad and true, For those who are not impacted by it, it’s oblivious.They don’t really care. It happens to someone else, it’s his problem.
Kids get spoiled. College guys just like to drink, party and participate in ball games. When on of them gets trapped by rape accusation, they complain for a while and go back partying.
Some will survive and become professional. But if they get married and end in the gutter, they wonder what happened.
When you say, I just want to get back to work, is it prophetic that someone else hopefully will continue The Spearhead burden?
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I think that we are on the brink of something huge. All over Europe and Arab countries, the youth is rebelling. At least five European countries are on the verge of bankrupcy. Times will get tough.
And if The Dems/Repubs do not come to an agreement soon, The U,S, will find itself in a very dire situation: the world’s locomotive may come to a grinding halt and no way to pay its debts.
That’s probably when shit will hit the fan. We may face total economic meltdown in a short while.
And when that happens, only those men of strength and character will make it through.
Prepare for the worst: not much time left. The time of reckoning is upon us.
Soon maybe, feminism will be the least of our worries, while food may become worry number one. It’s five minutes to midnight, doctor Schweitzer.
Women do not appear to see what’s coming at them. But then again, women are concerned only with the present: they think of the future in very vague terms, the notion escapes them. But men have much deeper thinking: we see the signs on the walls and we know how to read them.
Very unwisely, women are setting themselves up for failure: no more protector when daddy government has expired and “the men have left the building”.
In times of great difficulties, being a man will be a great asset. Learn to live on almost nothing and you will survive the toughest times.
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Women only like equality until they have to practice it.
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@Rebel
Unfortunately, there are many willing men to save them from their hardships
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Ah yes, I remember it well, now. I was in France listening to the BBC (difficult reception, of course) on my Transistor Radio. ‘One small step for Mankind’ was I think the message. I naturally believed every word of it, then…
Fantasy is so wonderful, and Divorce Courts are the very opposite. A sadistic game played by the State; a display of conspicuous consumption, like the increase in Universities – for these things are expensive. Moon Missions are also an excercise in conspicuous consumption, and makes one proud to be American – or human. Positive thinking for the masses. Reality is always such a bitch.
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OT…..
but i find this very funny…….if wimminz laugh at men getting their penis cut off? maybe we should laugh at this and see how the wimmiz like that…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2016909/Sue-Duke-dies-knocked-learner-driver-daughter-17-waved-parking-space.html
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That doesn’t always happen in total system meltdowns.
Look at what happened in South Africa after the white man gave up his power, near anarchy and constant raping of women ensued.
Also go read “The Bloodlands” which has a nice piece about the Government – induced Ukranian famine in the 1930s.
When it got really bad, the women and children starved to death first. The remaining men who lost their families formed into roaming bands of cannibals who ate the remaining women and children as they were weak prey.
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Hi Welmer,
The fundamental problem men have today, and I mean most men here too, is that they seek solutions in the ‘collective’. And any collective is easily controlled as ‘the borg’ showed us. As soon as a man makes his actions dependent on ‘what will other people think of me’ or takes the position ‘something must be done and it is someone else who must do it’ then he becomes a slave.
Whether he knows it or not.
“There are none so hopelessly enslaves as those who falsely believe they are free.” Goeth.
How many people in the US celebrated the betrayal of their forefathers by british agents who handed themselves the grandiose title of ‘founding fathers’ on July 4th? Plenty. Idiots and sheeple the lot of them.
I got another email from another ‘desperate dad’ yesterday asking “Please help my boy”. It’s another case we are all familiar with. Wifey pops out a pup. A year later she is in the courts screwing him over. The man is ‘angry’ so obviously he’s a clear danger to the baby and the wife and needs to be ‘restrained’ from …..uuummmmm…wanting to be a father.
We have all heard this 1,000 times before if not many more.
So I told him to read the book, learn it’s lessons, and sit on our juries when they are ready. I told him it is HIS responsibility to educate HIMself so that HE could protect his son.
What is he doing instead? He’s starting a ‘mens group’ to ‘fight for fathers rights’. Um? Where have I heard that before? And have ANY of them made ANY significant difference? Has Glen Sacks actually IMPROVED FAMILY LAW in the US?
The answer is staring you in the face Welmer in your own situation. No. Glenn Sacks and many more like him have made NO DIFFERENCE in the family law system. Why?
BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO. IT IS MEANT TO BE THIS WAY.
They will throw you men the odd bone while they feast on the carcases of your families via the massive industry they have built that has the sole purpose of destroying families and fathers. You men will point at the odd bone thrown you way and declare “see we are making progress, this is better than nothing.”
Gee. Great victory. Well done.
Until men really, really understand the level of treachery and betrayal aimed at you? Until you are willing to CLAIM YOUR RIGHTS and then STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHTS to be the father you chose to be or to be the man you choose to be? And do it as a network on individuals and NOT A COLLECTIVE?
You will be slaves.
And you are welcome to your slavery.
You have the remedy. It’s up to you as an individual whether you use it or not.
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Russia has painfully learned its lesson and is healing its society. Here’s another step they are taking:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/16/world/europe/16briefs-Russia.html?_r=1
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DT July 20, 2011 at 16:26
“The Muslims are right that it’s only a matter of time. Europe will be a Muslim majority, Sharia law continent within 50-75 years. Poetic justice for the feminists who killed it. I hope their daughters enjoy wearing burkas and being stoned for even mentioning a “slut walk.””
Three years ago I said on the SMH blogs.
“If things keep going the way they are? In 20 years time the only pregnant women you will see will be wearing burkhas.”
Sadly I was wrong. I think now it will only be 10 years from then….so 7 from now. I notice that women are converting to Islam FAR faster in the UK than men are.
Mister Grumpus July 20, 2011 at 16:38
“Think of what you could do if you didn’t have to deal with divorce and family law. If that emotional, energetic and financial drain simply weren’t there…”
I don’t have to think about it. I live it. I used to have to earn EUR150K before taxes just to ‘break even’ some years ago. That’s a LOT of consulting hours. I could not spend the time I wanted on selling my software because of sales lag. And I certainly did not have the time to find out that I was a slave living in a matrix.
Now I can live quite comfortably on EUR40K. That includes a luxury apartment and eating out most nights plus plenty for ‘play money’. Hence I have had time to assist men. Alas, most men don’t want to be assisted. They want someone else to do their job for them.
I am now going back to my real job. I will go out and sell my software in the fall and put plenty of cash into the bank before the crash comes. I will also get the money owed me by the crimes committed against me.
The association I am planning to bring out for men in the business context is also moving forward and the ideas are becoming more concrete. If other men would only make use of what I have made available for free? They could live a very comfortable life.
Rebel July 20, 2011 at 17:10
“I have a hard time not believing that this is all done by sheer design.”
I have been telling you this was all deliberate for some years now. So has Henry Makow. Maybe one day you will believe me…or him…does not matter who really.
Remember: Thomas Ball’s immolation, he gave his life for your children.
Hot debate. What do you think?
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Ah yes, you are witnessing the Fall of Rome, and the mere fact that you and everyone else can see it happening is proof of how close and imminent it is.
Whiston’s excellent article on the economic and manufacturing impact on society of broken families is here
http://robertwhiston.wordpress.com/2011/06/04/29/
More analysis on my blog (click my name above) in the Head Candy section on the right.
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I don’t blame cliques for trying to get advantage- but cliques (ethnic, religious or political) get their way when they encounter little or no resistance. It’s the non-aware, silent majorities which often refuse to see what may be happening right in front of them. How many times have I tried to inject a non-feminist, non-judeo-christian point of view in the conversation and been rebuffed by ordinary “white” guys. The ones who believe in “fair play” are the worst in that regard, heavy into denial.
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@ Peter
I really only know about Fathers and Families but I think Glenn Sacks and Fathers and Families are actually getting laws passed and starting to get recognized by major politicians, the first step to being able to get national legislation passed.
There has been a wholesale change in the way politicians view mens rights groups in the last 10 years.
There doesn’t seem to be any natural animosity toward us, we are percieved as caring fathers in the US.
http://www.fathersandfamilies.org/
Presidential candidate Guliani takes photo with Fathers and Families:
http://www.fathersandfamilies.org/?p=17645
4 years ago, Sarah Palins running mate called us a “tar baby”.
Remember him? No?
Wow, very interesting, in the link the producer of “Felicity” is now publicly supporting Fathers and Families.
What’s interesting to me is that I used to date the head of programming for Showtime and one of the main reasons I broke up with her was that she really liked “Felicity”.
To me, this show was everything wrong with women. It was a naval gazing excersize for a college freshman who knew nothing and studied nothing and only worried about her next emotional high. Sort of a “New Moon” without the vampires, werewolves and that actually took itself seriously.
Seriously gross, IMO.
She was so angry that I nailed that show and showed her for the self absorbed intellectual light wieght that she was she couldn’t help herself and she revealed her nasty side…you know, the one I wasn’t supposed to learn about until the divorce.
I broke up with her and she kept my camera, the one I had baby pictures of my son on.
Women are really really sweet that way.
So, the maker of a chick naval gazing flick has been so burned by his ex he’s also a MRA.
We’ve come a long way….dude.
Remember: Thomas Ball’s immolation, he gave his life for your children.
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@Grumpus
As Rome crumbled around the time of Christ
Go back to school kid.
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Nolan, you’re boring me with your one track mind.
Now I can live quite comfortably on EUR40K. That includes a luxury apartment and eating out most nights plus plenty for ‘play money’.
Sure, on $50k you can get a luxury apt, eat in top restaurants and have plenty left over lol Where are you? Belarus or or some Podunk town in Romania? lol
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“Today, for most Americans, its all about the next celebrity show……etc…”
Yep…………and “nascar” “superbowl” “worldseries” “finalfour” “NBA” “NFL” “NCAA”, etc………..and that not just “today”, its been YEARS that most men have been lulled asleep by that crap.
Politicians just LOVE it.
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BTW, “Family law” and “Family court” are oxymorons which means they can’t logically exist.
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SingleDad July 21, 2011 at 06:13
There has been a wholesale change in the way politicians view mens rights groups in the last 10 years.
@SD,
I asked have the legislation improved. Not if there was a change of view.
By the way? Some US states altered their legislation to a presumption of 50/50 and no alimony or child support unless it was PROVEN there was need. In those states divorce rates fell like a stone. You can probably look it up. I read that nearly three years ago. So SOME states have improved their legislation.
Any legislation change that ‘looks positive’ is nothing more than a sop when you have mandatory arrest policies, restraining orders handed out like confetti etc. And by the way? I predicted the press would come down on women some time ‘soon’ three years ago…so these early cases in the UK of women and false rape allegations actually going to jail was predicted. Not specifically but that nature of thing.
But look at Australia. You have legislation passed that makes the MISTRESS of a man entitled to his property…and you know how much evidence is going to be needed, don’t you.
In the UK you have the PM saying that the UK should be HOSTILE to ‘dead beat dads’.
In the US you have MANGINA IN CHIEF bagging out Dads in a way that would be a national disgrace if he replace ‘mother’ for ‘father’.
Sorry. You are not making any real progress at all. And in many places you are going backwards by my estimation.
Time to fire the guvment and run your own life….just my opinion.
One other comment. The whole notion of ‘equal parenting’ or ‘equal justice for fathers’ is just more Illuminati Kool Aid. The father is FAR more important in the development of the child. Intelligent men will do what Ronaldo did. Exclusive custody of the child. And the marriage agreement in the book gives men that opportunity.
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Family court is “FEMALE” court, plain and simple.
To think a married man has the freedom to control his own destiny and that of his family’s, is a myth. She’s not happy, she wants a divorce, she takes HER children away…with blessings by order of the court.
Under the guise of “what’s best for the children”, the whole family court system is in place to transfer wealth from hard working men to women. You don’t marry a woman, you marry family court and whatever your state’s particular laws are that pertain to marriage dissolution.
Unless she happens to be a reasonable type that will opt for a collaborative style divorce, you’re at financial risk. Children are the REAL trump cards however. Little walking monthly expense accounts; a whole other level of complexity and court ordered involvement, meant to hold father accountable to his former family.
While the deluded, brainwashed, idealistic young man has NO IDEA what he’s walking into, princess KNOWS the rules going in, she clearly knows the game, she’s got the power, and you better behave buster! From the minute she finds out she’s preggers, she’s been gifted with an insurance policy, an out if he doesn’t keep her happy.
From the maternity ward on he’s an indentured servant of the family court system for 18 years, either by proxy or for real. Why wasn’t he warned this is what might happen? Why wasn’t he told? Why’s it such a secret? How could she have been so cruel and heartless all of the sudden? What did he do that was so wrong? Why does the judge favor her? She’s the one who wanted this disaster brought on our children!
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@ Peter
Click on the link I put up for a list of recent legislation that changed.
Also find legislation that is in the pipe as well as the legislative goals of fathers and families, definitely MRA’s causes, that to me is the important part.
Remember: Thomas Ball’s immolation, he gave his life for your children.
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DCM @
“Russia has painfully learned its lesson and is healing its society.”
In 2008 in a sex discrimination case the judge ruled that sexual harassment was necessary for the propgation of the species.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/2470310/Sexual-harrassment-okay-as-it-ensures-humans-breed-Russian-judge-rules.html
Guess what. The judge was a woman! The Russians still have it right in many ways.
The original story – http://sovsekretno.ru/magazines/article/1972
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Avenger July 21, 2011 at 06:47
“Sure, on $50k you can get a luxury apt, eat in top restaurants and have plenty left over lol Where are you? Belarus or or some Podunk town in Romania? lol”
EUR40K is USD56K dude.
@Avenger. The cost of living in Germany is very low. Especially away from the big cities.
In my town you can get a really nice apartment for EUR500/month. My apartment is EUR1,100 per month including all the bills paid. This is 100 sq meters, two bedrooms, two bathrooms, large living room and it was brand new when I moved in. The paint was still drying. So it has all the most modern of technology in it.
A good meal in a good restaurant costs EUR10. In a cheap restaurant a main costs you EUR6-7. The BEST restaurant in town? Buying steak? That will cost you EUR22-25? Buying chicken or turkey or pork? That will cost you EUR15. At one of my favourite places the chef used to work at the Savoy in London. They would call us when they got good T-bone in and we would get the T-Bone and lots of vegetables for EUR20. That was considered a very expensive meal.
I can eat out pretty much every night if I want for less than EUR1,000/month including my home meals or office meals. A meal at the office cafeteria is EUR4-6 depending on what you want. The only expense I have in restaurants is the alcohol.
Alcohol in the store is for free. Really. A really good bottle of red from a discount store will cost you EUR10. Anything above that is just wasting money. You can get very passable red for EUR3 per bottle if you drive out to the discounters. I buy wine in the EUR5-6 range with a few good ones and a few quaffers in the mix.
The stores in the center of town sell wine for about double the price of the discounters as most people don’t have cars to drive to the discounters.
Beer is really cheap. It’s now EUR15 for 10 litres of beer from the supermarket. It’s EUR3.60 per half litre in a restaurant.
So for EUR2,100 per month I pay for my food and apartment. The other EUR1,000? That’s ‘play money’. I can spend it on anything I like such as wine or beer. I don’t own a car. My tram ticket costs EUR48/month. A return train to Frankfurt costs EUR40. I can’t drink EUR1,000/month. Clothes are also cheap. I pay my maid to clean the place every second week.
Germany is a GREAT place to base yourself out of if you are a travelling consultant. From Frankfurt Airport you can go anywhere you need quite cheaply.
Those are the number Avenger. If I lived like I used to live when I was married and travelling I could live on EUR20K.
When I was in Cologne and married? I ate cheap meals from the discounters. NEVER in restaurants apart from business…and ate the cheap meal at the cafeteria and didn’t drink AT ALL. I guess I was living on EUR12/13 per day and my apartment was EUR700/months because it was furnished and Cologne is more expensive than where I am now. So I was living on EUR1,100 per month…easy.
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PS Avenger.
I am told a ‘check out chick’ at Aldi (read Wal-Mart) gets EUR800/month for 40 hour weeks at the cash register in Germany. I’ve been told that by a few people. I didn’t believe it at first because that is not very much.
Salaries are low in Germany compared to other places so the cost of living is also low. It’s pretty simple. You can live in Germany for about half of what you can live on in Dublin in Ireland or london…….just as examples.
The BIG reason germany is so cheap is that you can not speculate on house prices. When you rent an apartment it is a 10 year lease with increases about 2-3% per year. The owner can not break that lease. If you buy a house you can not resell it for 5 years unless the guvment gives you permission.
The housing market is like a rock. Very steady. No volatility. Because of this people have a LOT of confidence that they can live there for a long time and they do not move around a lot. Most apartments, like my new one, come empty. Not even light fittings. You have to install your own kitchen, beds, wardrobes, bookshelves etc. But you expect to say there for many years.
You can’t spend EUR1M on a house near where I live. The BEST houses are less than EUR1M. You can only spend that sort of money in the BIG cities. I am talking houses with their own indoor heated pools or tennis courts outside etc are still under EUR1M.
To compare?
I was paying EUR2,200/month in Dublin for a 140sqm house.
I was paying EUR1,300 in london for a 40sqm furnished apartment.
So rent here is half and house prices are also about half London/Dublin.
In dublin you need to pay EUR20 for a main course in a mid tier restaurant.
In London you can probably get away with EUR15-18 in a mid tier for a main. Once you start eating in a decent place you are looking at EUR25 for a main. And, of course, in london you can spend silly money on a meal. I took a lady friend from Texas to dinner and we ate lobster in one of the poshest places in London. It was a stupid bill but she as very supportive of me in my divorce and I did make the offer. We had a great night.
Alcohol in Dublin and London are stupid prices. They are double the price of germany in the town stores so wine is about 4x what I can buy it at a discounter in germany compared to a tescos in London.
Travel in london is expensive as well. The tube is quite expensive even with an oyster card.
For guys living in the english speaking world? Germany is a MUCH better place to live. But you have to speak german to work here. And you will NEVER be treated like a local.
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PeterTheGreat July 21, 2011 at 08:23
Hi Peter….I have heard this story but doubted it’s truth….you are from Russia. You think it’s really true?
I’ve heard that there have only been two sexual harassment cases since the fall of communism.
From my own time in Moscow I know the women in the office sleep with the highest status guy they can. You can see this as they leave the office together…not hidden at all. I asked the lower status guys about this and they confirmed that the small number of women employed sleep with the higher status guys trying to get them to marry them. Sometimes they were successful and sometimes not. Completely normal.
Indeed. It’s just how many a secretary landed a ‘catch’ in the past in the west.
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OT…The CFR is telling you something very important here.
http://www.cfr.org/economic-development/adapt-die/p25492?cid=soc-Facebook-in-Economics-Adapt_or_die-071911
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What is it with the antisemitism, anyway?
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re the narcolepsy story, did you see the last line? “Allen and his wife have since gotten back together.”
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Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) July 21, 2011 at 08:54
“Hi Peter….I have heard this story but doubted it’s truth….you are from Russia. You think it’s really true?”
I’m American, but spend a lot of time in Russia. Yes, it is true. I asked my friends in Russia about it and they’ve heard about it. When I was with a good friend who is an Academician he was talking in rapid Russian to two women we were having lunch with. They began laughing.
He turned and said that he was telling the women that in America you can go to jail for sex harassment at work. They were laughing because in Russia it is expected.
A hotel vice-director also told me that he could have sex with any of the women he wanted because it was expected. But that then they would begin to want more privileges, slack off on work, etc. So it wasn’t good to do this.
Btw, I responded to a question on another thread, but don’t think you saw it. I am posting it for you here.
Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c)@
“The other things that I read about Russia and the depopulation ongoing and the high crime levels in places like Moscow seem to confirm what my fav#1 has said.
But given you will know more? Please share.”
Depopulation. The scut work in Russia is largely done by Koreans. You see them in the supermarkets, as cleaning help, etc. in growing numbers. In the Russian Far East in Vladivostok, the problem is the Chinese.
Chinese are flowing over the largely unguarded borders into Russia, like Mexicans into the U.S. A lot of Chinese money is buying up land and resources in Eastern Siberia as well. China covets Siberia. This is not a new problem. Under the Soviets communist solidarity with China was largely illusion. Division level battles were fought with the Chinese along the Amur river in the 1960s and 1970s.. The Soviets won, and from what I understand, threatened to use tactical nukes on the Chinese if they didn’t withdraw their troops from Soviet soil. But the Chinese are working to get control of Siberia either territorially or economically.
Russia is slowly dying. There are only about 140 million Russians in a country far bigger than the U.S. The Soviets have been shown to have killed 120 million Russians from 1919 to 1990; so this depopulation is largely the making of Lenin and Stalin. Most Russians only have one child, if they have any. Two is remarkable. So the population is aging.
Too many of the young are girls. The guys have either died off, are on drugs, or drunks. So while men control society and businesses, it is the females that largely run everything below the vice-directors job. Men in general are lazy, and girls think Americans work too hard and don’t take enough time off.
Crime. Crime in Moscow is not bad. I’ve ridden the metro system late at night all over the city with no problem. No one bothers you. There are areas where you should stay out of, as with any city, but in general crime is under control or hidden. The mafiya no longer has raging gun battles like the early 1990s. Putin brought them into the government, as most new mafiya leaders were ex-KGB any way. The old mafiya that emerged in the gulags is still around, but muted as the Russian government doesn’t permit open crime. Even street crime is rare. This is true everywhere I’ve been in Russia.
When I was in Vladivostok a friend told me that the mayor had been mafiya, was brought into the government, then was later arrested and in jail for graft, but was still the mayor. Amazing.
Things in Russia kind of generally work. But Russians accept a lot of slippage in services that Americans take for granted. Here if we flip a switch it works. There it will usually, sort of , maybe work. Their response when it doesn’t – “Its Russia!”.
Putin tried to get the birth rate up, and it has risen somewhat. However, the bounty per child is woefully inadequate in terms of what it costs to raise a child. Remember that everything costs 2-3 times what it does in the US with an average wage for professionals of about $600/month. Average wage for general workers is about $300 or so.
Under Putin the economy became good enough that most Russians don’t want to emigrate, so the idea that Russian girls want to leave Russia is not really true. Most want a good life there. It is, after all, what they know. And a lot of professionals cannot get jobs in their fields in Europe or America. There are always those willing to go with a husband, but you have to find them.
If you are asked your ethnic background in Russia you say “European’, not “Caucasian”. Caucasian in Russia means Armenians, Georgians, etc. which the Russians call black asses. Russians style themselves as Europeans. The girls generally will not date Caucasians, orientals, etc.; although there are always exceptions.
Under the Soviets men were either sent to the gulags, the army or factories (or collective farms). There was nothing to achieve, so it became as the old Soviet joke – “The government pretends to pay us, and we pretend to work.” Alcoholism was rampant. This is still a problem, but you don’t see the drunks nearly as much as before. Younger Russians have switched more to beer from vodka. Living wage, housing, medical care and education was free under the Soviets; and many think they lost a lot with the fall of the Soviet Union in this regard. Now they have to pay for everything, but wages remain very low with costs high.
Under that system, women ran the home and so became preeminent there. As I noted elsewhere, the man is expected to yield in the house to all the woman’s desires. She determines what goes on, when he gets laid, whether he gets laid, based upon her subjective happiness. So men initiate 70%+ of the divorces.
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Sad indeed. The connection to feminism is blatant and exposes the utter destruction on the very concept of exceptionalism. Consider that as we affirmative actionized NASA we saw the full manifestation of our “superior” female counterparts come out, recall the recent lovers spat between female astronauts jealously fighting over a male one dawning diapers and driving through the night. She either kidnapped or murdered the other women. And here is the kicker; these astronauts are supposed to be the absolute top-level performers in their field. How is the petty jealousy between lovers demonstrative of top-performance? Of course, we put snookie and lady gaga as on high as par excellence in our female society. You see, it was never some patriarchic global conspiracy amongst our forbearers, it pure wisdom passed to us through eons and eons stating emphatically that society is optimally and naturally best configured when strong masculine influences reign. If that happens to displace the feminine component, well, too bad so sad – I didn’t see the vastly more intelligent, moral, courageous female visionaries conjure up the idea to travel into space. There is good reason for that. Someone will come and say “well, that’s cause women were being repressed” to that I say, women are now the privileged class and certainly not repressed, as a matter of fact, a couple years ago it was big news that the all female crew flew the shuttle. So now there is no repression and what do we see from our female overlords AN END TO THE SPACE PROGRAM! TO MY POINT IT WAS MEN AND THE MASCULINE VIRTUES THAT PUT US INTO SPACE! Once more, it is the FEMININE that shut it all down! As I’ve said before, as women roar away the system they think they are entitled to receive, and think they run is crumbling as their immature helmsmanship takes us into destructive directions. The end of our space program is a perfect example. Of course, it ended a long time ago when political correctness became the number 1 aim and not exploring space.
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The international space station has been an enormous waste of money. Just how much science has come from it? The space shuttle was designed primarily to carry parts for it into orbit and to service it. That too has been an enormous waste of money.
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@ Towgunner
Of course there was never a “Patriarchy”. I don’t know anyone who ever bought that baloney. The creation of a mythical “Patriarchy” was invented to justify the imminent dubbing of an official “Matriarchy”, IMO.
Evidence is the many pronouncments this year of women taking over the world, the end of men, etc, all pronouncements made by female spokesman of female policy makers and the womens study establishment.
The world economic system is dying…the femborg can have it, just keep your hands off my son.
Remember: Thomas Ball’s immolation, he gave his life for your children.
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The manned space program is just as much a big government waste of money as anything else. Its d*ck waving not truly useful science.
Also while its fashionable to blame feminists, liberals and Jews for all the problems , thats scapegoating more than anything useful.
The problem with the US is much more complicated
Among the issues
#1 Wealth distribution. All of the money in the hands of the rich and its not being paid in wages.
#2 Lack of jobs. Technology over the last century has enabled manpower to have less value. Simply there is not enough need for labor to support full employment at a 40 hour work week and not enough pressure to share the work and wages so that everyone gets a chunk of the productive capacity.
#3 Lack of focus on the long term . Almost all effort has gone into the easier gains of finance and computers instead of the long time no pay off hard stuff. This is so problematic that technologies we once took for granted such as antibiotics are failing
#4 Human nature. This is rather important and mostly overlooked. Humans are much the same as chimps and any time we can we all immediately begin reverting to our instincts and become tribal, women engage in female hypergamy and everyone stop caring about more complex things like law and such. This is understandable, we are adapted to living in small bands and larger or smaller groups are mentally exhausting. Unless the city can provide some long term payoff beyond an I-Pad social breakdown is inevitable. Now its of course uneven but human nature being what it is, it can easily reach critical mass.
The key to the long term is wealth distribution, work distribution and making sure people have a “tribe” around them. Do this and replace the anti-hypergamy boot (yes this does matter) and we can sustain society. Otherwise, no way.
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It has to come down to anarcy , They have taken the body from the fight . Trying to battle the devel with words is just what she wants . Sick and stones people , Sticks and stones .
They have changed the constitution , we will never get that back soon we will be forced into programs that force you to be a good worker .
Call it the happy worker program if you like .
Ill just call it what it is , slavery .
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@ Mr. Stricter
While I understand where your coming from, I don’t think it’s that complex.
Women just want something for nothing, wealth distribution is another word for stealing and when she takes your kid that’s kidnapping.
Believe me, the main reason they invented “Amber” alerts about child napping is to imprison fathers who want to see their kids.
When my ex kidnapped our son, I immediatley called the police and was told that without a court order, that was not kidnapping.
The next day, at the ex-parte hearing, the judge felt differently and ordered her back with the child.
Remember: Thomas Ball’s immolation, he gave his life for your children.
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@Single Dad
I agree with you that there was never a Patriarchy. Choose whatever old book you like, you will never find the remotest reference to such a concept (at least I have yet to do so). Perhaps it will be argued by women, that it was just a general attitude, rather than a deliberate policy; yet, again you will not find that to be true. When the old writers address the subject of women, they do not talk in terms of oppressing them, indeed as you can see form say any old play, women are the subject of male desire and consideration and not their oppression.
It might be argued by women however that, men have been more cunning or aggressive or just more physically imposing, but if they were to do so that would merely demonstrate that in terms of intelligence, drive and strength men are superior to women, and therefore more fitted to certain tasks. Nature is parsimonious and women are just as intelligent as they need to be for their biological purpose i.e. catching a husband, gestating , lactating and bringing up infants and children.
The use of the term Patriarchy is a form of Paranoid Solipsism, where women see the actions of men as being always about themselves – as if everything a man does has the ill-will of the female of the species at heart. It is a particularily bizarre concept as wherever possible upper-middle class and aristocratic women have lived the most utterly privileged of lives. Women however always complain so whatever happens to them they will complain, even when they are given everything. The examples of that are too numerous to mention.
Feminism is merely a complaint that nature has created them female i.e. is tacit acknowledgement that men are better.
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@Opus – bingo.
The mere existence of feminism is a de facto admission of the inferiority of women to men. If someone is superior, you wouldn’t need an organized entity to claim ones superiority, you would just go ahead and claim it.
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@Avenger. The cost of living in Germany is very low. Especially away from the big cities.
So you’re in podunk then? I guess you don’t pay any taxes too or have a car . You also won’t be covered under their medical insurance and will have to pay for anything yourself esp. since you’re a fugitive. And you don’t pay any utilities, cell, internet etc? You don’t buy any clothes? Everything in Germany is a lot more expensive esp. with the VAT.
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@Peter
The mafiya no longer has raging gun battles like the early 1990s
That’s because 95% were jews and they all went to Israel or Brooklyn lol
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with an average wage for professionals of about $600/month
But you’re forgetting that if a person is for example a physician he’ll also receive cash “gifts” from patients.
Too many of the young are girls
It’s about 50/50. It’s only when you get into the older ages like 60′s that females outnumber men 3-1
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@Dad-they are going after female as well. This female was convicted of merely being over the legal limit which is only .08%. (it used to be .15% in the 60′s)
WHITE PLAINS, N.Y. — A 43-year-old woman is the first person in Westchester County to be tried and convicted under New York’s Leandra’s Law. The provision makes it a felony to drive drunk with children.
The district attorney’s office says Marta Amaro-Morales of Peekskill was found guilty Thursday of aggravated driving while intoxicated.
Prosecutors say Amaro-Morales was stopped last May for weaving between lanes. Two of her children, ages 7 and 11, and a 4-year-old granddaughter were in the car. She was arrested and a test found her alcohol level was just over the legal limit.
The law is named for 11-year-old Leandra Rosado. She was killed when a woman drunkenly drove a station wagon full of children into a highway wreck.
Amaro-Morales could be sentenced to up to four years in prison.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/year_old_white_plains_woman_is_convicted_FjPxwTfNe4AUaQxSpsSMIJ#ixzz1SmVP2mYw
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PeterTheGreat July 21, 2011 at 09:47
Hi Peter,
just on crime in Moscow. I was not meaning there was generally a high level of crime. I was simply told by my hosts that an obviously western man walking in the street at night with a laptop would stand a VERY high chance of being robbed by someone who was carrying a gun.
I was told crime against westerners was quite common as it was almost impossible for them to gain justice in russia. I meant high level of crime against ‘rich westerners’. I want to make it clear. I didn’t SEE any of this for myself. I am repeating what I was told by people who live there.
I was not making any comment on crimes of russians against russians. I have no idea quite how high that is.
I am told that it does not pay to show off your wealth even if russian…and I did notice that pretty much every driver I had was wearing a gun.
Of course, in places like the philippines the drivers carry sawn off shot guns and the like. I am very used to people pointing guns at me or carrying guns around. So no ill comment about moscow in general..
The only thing i really didn’t like was the traffic after the summer holidays were over. Gridlock.
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PeterTheGreat July 21, 2011 at 09:47
Hi Peter,
just on crime in Moscow. I was not meaning there was generally a high level of crime. I was simply told by my hosts that an obviously western man walking in the street at night with a laptop would stand a VERY high chance of being robbed by someone who was carrying a gun.
I was told crime against westerners was quite common as it was almost impossible for them to gain justice in russia. I meant high level of crime against ‘rich westerners’. I want to make it clear. I didn’t SEE any of this for myself. I am repeating what I was told by people who live there.
I was not making any comment on crimes of russians against russians. I have no idea quite how high that is.
I am told that it does not pay to show off your wealth even if russian…and I did notice that pretty much every driver I had was wearing a gun.
Of course, in places like the philippines the drivers carry sawn off shot guns and the like. I am very used to people pointing guns at me or carrying guns around. So no ill comment about moscow in general..
The only thing i really didn’t like was the traffic after the summer holidays were over. Gridlock.
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Wake up call! July 21, 2011 at 05:44
“Nolan \”claim your rights\” … what? The \”right\” to disown your children and say all sorts of foul shit about them just because you didn\’t want to pay any of your cash towards their care and instead gave it all to gold digging Ukrainian hookers … give me a break!”
I wonder what troll this is. I have had plenty of them of late.
The woman this person wants to criticise was kind, caring, supportive, generous to a man obviously in need. She helped me save my life when I really was not wanting to save it myself. She barely knew me yet she was one of only TWO woman who were kind to me at that time. We then went on to learn more about each other and become very close….alas….children being a sticking point. I will sing this womans praise from any point I can for the remainder of my life. I really do miss her being in my life. Much more than my wife of 18 years whom I do not miss at all.
Yet this lying scumbag wants to characterise this fine woman as a “gold digging Ukrainian hooker”. Did she want me to pay for her and her children? Yes…and that is “normal”.
If this is how he or she wants to characterise this woman? What has this person to say about my ex? Hhhmmmm?
Secondly? ” The right to disown your children and say all sorts of foul shit about them”
Every man has, at any time, the right to dis-own his children. There is no law that says a man must never dis-own his ALLEGED children. Remember, I have, at no time, seen any proof these ALLEGED children were biologically my children. Children are obliged to honour their fathers. Lacking this honour? They have no right to a father. And women have made it quite clear they consider no man has a right to his children….see family courts.
Secondly? I have never said “foul shit” about my former children. I have made it clear that my two former daughters disgust me with their terrible characters and that the world would be a better place if they were not in it.
I stand by those comments.
I have also said that if David Rockefeller held a gun to my ALLEGED former daughters heard and said one word from me would save her life? I’d say “Pull the trigger. She is nothing to me.” And if he blew her head clean off right in front of me I would not be the least bit concerned. My former daughters disgust me. They really do. The boys much less so. If either of them have a problem with me openly saying they are repulsive and disgusting people? They have not raised it with me. And they both know my email address.
THAT is what I have said. I stand by it.
The question the hateful wimminz might want to ask is:
“How badly must a man be abused to have no concern at all about the cold blooded murder of his ALLEGED daughter right in front of his eyes? And did we really do that.”
The answers would be …lots…..yes.
I stand by my words typed as ‘globalman’. I do not retract ANY of them.
I knew my real name would come out when I started this 3 years ago now.
If women do not like what I have to say? I could not care less. THEY are the ones committing and condoning crimes. Not me. And the wimminz really HATE me for standing up and calling them the liars and hypocrites so many of them have chosen to be. Who cares.
I am telling the lads how it really is. And the fact that no women are willing to openly debate me shows they know I am right. The fact that wimminz go for banning me from places to speak shows every man what the wimminz game is.
Hot debate. What do you think?
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When my ex got out of prison she did the same thing grabed the kids , The police told me the same thing , Theres nothing I can do about It , But if a man grabs his kids its kidnapping.
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Hey, this could be a good thing. Let’s face it the Russians were always streets ahead in aeronautics. Commercialisation is probably what Americans do best and with private concerns now running the space race things can only start moving forward exponentially.
@Nolan are you fucking serious?
You’re like an injured animal. Somebody should put you out of your misery.
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Nolan, you’re not only crazy but you never learn.
Yet this lying scumbag wants to characterise this fine woman as a “gold digging Ukrainian hooker”. Did she want me to pay for her and her children? Yes…and that is “normal”.
A single mother?
And you constantly talk about disowning people and how you don’t care but you can’t stop talking about it which sounds like a person who is obsessed and can’t get them out of his mind.cuckholdedWhen I forget someone it’s like they have never existed and were never born. I recommend that you get your brain washed like in that film ,Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.
There is no law that says a man must never dis-own his ALLEGED children
Well yes that’s a good point because a naive nerd like you was probably getting cuckholded all those years.
I have also said that if David Rockefeller held a gun to my ALLEGED former daughters blah blah blah
I knew you’d get the Illuminati in somewhere lol
The fact that wimminz go for banning me from places to speak shows every man what the wimminz game is.
Erm, where have you been banned from?
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Commercialisation is probably what Americans do best and with private concerns now running the space race things can only start moving forward exponentially.
That’s what I said.
The US gov’t only got off their arse after the USSR launched Sputnik. Then they got worried and started to really push science.
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Dear DCM July 21, 2011 at 03:10:
“Russia has painfully learned its lesson and is healing its society. Here’s another step they are taking….”
Russia has the highest abortion rate on the planet (about 66% of babies are killed annually suchly). Abortion is intentionally lethally dangerous to the babies in the womb. About 3.5 million babies are thusly killed there annually and, as such, Russia has a Feminist Aging Population Syndrome.
Russia has not learned that human unsustainability is exactly that. Russia is a country which is exterminating itself. As such, it cannot have any real future. Its own demise is caused by the Feminist women (and the men who obey them).
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“I have also said that if David Rockefeller held a gun to my ALLEGED former daughters blah blah blah”
You know Rockefeller’s about 200 years old don’t you PAN? Even if he is illuminati, do you really think that he would acquaint himself with a pissant like you? Serious delusions of grandeur, dude.
gender foreigner – “Abortion is intentionally lethally dangerous to the babies in the womb.”
There’s one for the No Shit Sherlock files.
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Mr. Stricter
Are you sure about that?
You might want to take a closer look at your history books. There have been civilizations that have stood for over a 1,000 years that had very unequal wealth distributions. How’s that for “long term”.
A socialistic system doesn’t seem to be a pre-requisite for creating a society that will stand for the long term. In fact history has shown if you want to create a nation that will collapse very quickly then make it a socialistic one. The closer it is to socialism the sooner it will collapse.
The formula for creating a society that will stand for the long term is simple. It’s just that 1/3rd of the people on this planet can’t figure it out because they subscribe to marxism.
Stop punishing the responsible and making them pay to shield the irresponsible from the consequences of their actions.
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@Peter Andrew Colon: Thank you for confirming you are a disjointed psychopath Globalman … truly the rantings of a lunatic.
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@ gf
It seems Russians have just become more efficient, they kill each other before they ever draw breath.
@ Peter
Don’t let them get to you. That’s their goal.
Sticks and stones can hurt, the interweb…not so much. You need a girlfriend that will really get in their grill, I think you know what I mean.
Then write about it.
Remember: Thomas Ball’s immolation, he gave his life for your children.
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SocietyisFdUp,
You’ve been here before, under various different handles.
I suspect that even the next time you give Welmer shit for not putting “Abolish Family Court” on his website, you STILL won’t have a link to your own blog doing the same thing, and you STILL won’t even provide an example of the banner you so desperately want to see here.
How much have you donated to Mr. Price?
The invitation to Fuck Off is still open, feel free to take advantage.
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@Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) July 21, 2011 at 08:04
“I was paying EUR1,300 in london for a 40sqm furnished apartment.”
What part of London was this Peter? That would not cover a single night at one of the “right” addresses in Mayfair.
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More Equality =/= Marxism ‘E’
In fact most stable societies were pretty redistribution focused, Rome with its Pan et Circusa, The Celts has socialized medicine and the Middle Ages as unstable and violent as it was even had some customs.
The US in fact did pretty well back in the 50′s and early 60′s when taxes enforced a higher degree of equality and social custom +need created many jobs. Since both these are gone, well we are just starting to reap the consequences of that choice. The less aggressive members (mostly White) stop having kids and the more aggressive, get well more aggressive and have more kids. Guess who wins that war?
What greater equality does buy is a measure of peace and yes I fully concede that the birth rate in Europe is a little low, its easily dealt with by limiting more natal immigrants and more than likely waiting it out till land prices (remember how crowded Europe is) drop a bit
If you look at pretty much every 21st century society, the more equal and market focused (you can do both) they are the smarter they and better they are to live in.
The trick is though to stop the greed-heads in businesses who want cheaper labor and more consumers no matter what it costs society.
What the current society does is puts the burden of maintaining society mostly on the poor and the declining middle expecting them to obey a rigged justice system, bad moral system and keep breeding so the rich can parasite off their social and physical capital.
I rather agree with Advocatus Diaboli on this issue the monied class,
they are utterly expendable. And yes there are actual creators of worth, people who do good for others and society who ought to be rewarded, it doesn’t mean that they should get a jet while people, White, Asian, NAM whoever starve.
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Mr. Stricter
After WW2 every nation that had any manufacturing capability had its factories bombed to ruins, except for the USA. Without any global competitors this gave American manufactures a huge advantage. The post war economic prosperity that carried through to the 50′s and the 60′s was a result of this before the rest of the world had the time to completely rebuild their manufacturing base. It had nothing to do with the redistributive taxes of the times.
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Well you are right about the bombing being a big component
As I see it forcing the elite to have something in common with average citizen matters a great deal too.
Now I strongly prefer things like social credit and a tax code that rewards broad scale distribution to a welfare state but if I can’t have broad scale distribution, I’ll take social democracy.
Let me try another tacts here, if you want to avoid wealthy males monopolizing women and take an effort to put a damper on hypergamy one way to do that is to take away the wealthy males best asset, his wealth. This advantages younger males quite a bit as the wealth gap is lowered. It results in a healthier, more stable society
Now obviously too much redistribution is pointless, useful work that produces real wealth instead of speculation should be rewarded but in, inflation adjusted terms its unlikely, so long as foreign ownership and trade were controlled and corporate income was restricted (say by an excess profits tax) that caps on wealth and income will matter
It certainly won’t raise money for the state, thats not the point. what it does is forces higher levels of solidarity and reduces group dominance via wealth. You will find it harder to escape say an intrusive security state if you can’t afford a private plane and if you are more likely to use private schools,you have less incentive than to fix the public ones.
If its harder to escape NAMS and poor Whites, you are also a lot more likely to support polices that improve society and restrict immigration and such.
Now some people who invent useful things only do it for the money and some people are only motivated by having more money than others have. Studies seem to suggest that the exact amount after I dunno, 10 million IIRC. That fine. There is nothing wrong with having a couple of houses and a nice nest egg. There is something however harmful to society about a rich poor gap and its that gap as much as feminism and immigration thats killing American society.
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-SingleDad July 22, 2011 at 04:57
Don’t let them get to you. That’s their goal.
Whose goal, Dopey?
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Damn. Everyone has a Marxist solution for Marxist problems. Here is how you know your drying off with a firehose.
“There ought to be a law”
“Wealth distribution should be….and there ought to be a law.”
Really try some Rothbard or Mises. Hell even Rand. Damn.
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Greed is an amazing force. If I were to hit the lotto, I’d take steps to hide from family, to avoid losing it all. I’d set up a blind trust and then hide in a place where I can blend in with the locals but family will stick out like a sore thumb. With sufficient money (less than you may think!) you can change your race! The hard part is getting the know-how to accomplish the stunt. Michael Jackson proved it, as well as John Howard Griffin. Happily, I do have the needed know-how to get the race change job done. Would I do it? Yes!
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Shawn,
Teenage girls love themselves some sex. Remember girls, being a slut is a good thing. Don’t worry about becoming a single mother or getting infected with STDs….
Just to point this out. I would think promiscuity, STDs, and conceiving a child while you’re still a child is a problem for both boys and girls. And you know, many teens have an interest in sex (although I remember reading somewhere that more teens are practicing abstinence now or are at least waiting longer).
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Dear Renee July 23, 2011 at 18:10:
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“…conceiving a child while you’re still a child is a problem for both boys and girls.”
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In the following discussion, I state things which do not necessarily imply that your position is the opposite. I state things in order to address the cluster of issues which relate to what you stated.
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Feminists have pushed the age-definition of child well into the years of adulthood. In the extreme amount of reading I’ve done since December, 1999 (100,00s of pages of selective evidence, including many original documents) in writing the book re the Feminist problem, I’ve noticed many patterns and trends. One such intended trend is that just in the last 100 years the concept of childhood had been pushed high into what has ALWAYS been considered to be adulthood.
Puberty is much to do with any such otherwise up-to-now definition. If the body can conceive, the person of that body can be mature enough to raise that child, especially in the context of having a committed husband (who is typically older than the wife). What is more, the strong tendency to have pregnancy much later in life has resulted in greater frequencies of vairous age-related diseases in the children.
In the late 1800s, the Archbishop of Cantebury got engaged with a twelve-year-old female. That was held to be utterly acceptable (and the marriage worked). When my mother was a child, the woman next door had been married at 14 and that marriage worked. When I visited an elderly woman in an old-folks’ home about 25 years ago, the immediate associates of her (about 8 women) ALL had been married at 15 (and all of their marriages lasted until death–and they raised all of their children.
When I visit Hutterite colonies, I notice that the maturity level of both males and females is easily 10 years ahead of what it is for those on the outside.
Full physical development typically is accomplished in the early teens. It’s a cultural problem of postponing, and often utterly avoiding responsibility via ever-larger government programs which are core to the exceedingly long extension of childhood.
Not growing up on the inside is the problem: not teen pregnancy. Out-of-wedlock pregnancy is the problem: not teen pregnancy. People should be raised to embrace responsibility and grow up, not be enhanced and entitled children till the day they die.
Renee, thank you for your submission.
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Dear Renee July 23, 2011 at 18:10:
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“…conceiving a child while you’re still a child is a problem for both boys and girls.”
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In the following discussion, I state things which do not necessarily imply that your position is the opposite. I state things in order to address the cluster of issues which relate to what you stated.
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Feminists have pushed the age-definition of child well into the years of adulthood. In the extreme amount of reading I’ve done since December, 1999 (100,00s of pages of selective evidence, including many original documents) in writing the book re the Feminist problem, I’ve noticed many patterns and trends. One such intended trend is that just in the last 100 years the concept of childhood had been pushed high into what has ALWAYS been considered to be adulthood.
Puberty is much to do with any such otherwise up-to-now definition. If the body can conceive, the person of that body can be mature enough to raise that child, especially in the context of having a committed husband (who is typically older than the wife). What is more, the strong tendency to have pregnancy much later in life has resulted in greater frequencies of vairous age-related diseases in the children.
In the late 1800s, the Archbishop of Cantebury got engaged with a twelve-year-old female. That was held to be utterly acceptable (and the marriage worked). When my mother was a child, the woman next door had been married at 14 and that marriage worked. When I visited an elderly woman in an old-folks’ home about 25 years ago, the immediate associates of her (about 8 women) ALL had been married at 15 (and all of their marriages lasted until death–and they raised all of their children.
When I visit Hutterite colonies, I notice that the maturity level of both males and females is easily 10 years ahead of what it is for those on the outside.
Full physical development typically is accomplished in the early teens. It’s a cultural problem of postponing, and often utterly avoiding responsibility via ever-larger government programs which are core to the exceedingly long extension of childhood.
Not growing up on the inside is the problem: not teen pregnancy. Out-of-wedlock pregnancy is the problem: not teen pregnancy. People should be raised to embrace responsibility and grow up, not be enhanced and entitled children till the day they die.
Renee, thank you for your submission.
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Mr. Stricter
You ever heard the joke, “What’s the difference between Germany and Greece?”
answer: about 20 years
The social democratic system has managed to produce some pretty high standards of living, especially Western European nations. But that was back in the 20th century before such nations had to deal with globalization.
The balance of power is shifting from west to east.
Like it or not when the social democratic system goes up against the east Asian capitalistic system, the Asian system wins. You can see the evidence in the form of facts and statistics everyday every time you turn on the financial news.
Why gamble one’s future on (social democracy) a system that is clearly in decline? No thanks, I want no part of it. If I’m going to put my money onto something I want it to be a winner not a loser. I believe the 21st century will be a battle between American capitalism vs. Chinese capitalism to see which one wins. I think the American system will ultimately prevail.
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gender foreigner@
“Feminists have pushed the age-definition of child well into the years of adulthood. ”
And then tried to designate anyone as pedophiles who has relations with them, or arrested for statutory rape.
John Taylor Gatto in his work on the educational system mentions the same push of adulthood into one’s 20′s instead of the biological 14-15 for both sexes as a means of population control. Here is an audio clip of his “Paradox of Extended Childhood” – http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/multimedia/jtgsound_paradox.htm
Until just a few years ago the legal age in Russia was 14 for girls; but American feminists and the gov got Russia to raise it to 16, with the interesting additional caveat of “16, or looks like 16″.
So theoretically the girl can be 14, but if she looks 16 the authorities can’t arrest someone for statutory rape as here, if she lies about her age. Another area the Russians are more realistic than feminized U.S.
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@gender foreigner July 23, 2011 at 20:57
My experience is with Baptists who live the “life” similar to the Hutterites.
I can attest to the maturity level of the children. I notice that they all did chores besides school work and play.
I also got a strong sense that the men and women appeared to genuinely approve of, appreciate and like each other.
I did not understand initially, why taking my own dishes to the kitchen was a cause of disappointment for one of the youngsters, then I realized that I had taken away his chance for approval when I did so.
Needless to say I never did it again.
I really do not think Feminism is ever going to become popular in those communities.
It would have to compete with the huge boost of confidence, that the constant approval and appreciation and the resulting satisfaction, the average woman gets every day from being a member there.
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This is an important post.
Thank you feminism, for all that you destroy.
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Gender foreigner,
And thank you for your response
Puberty is much to do with any such otherwise up-to-now definition. If the body can conceive, the person of that body can be mature enough to raise that child, especially in the context of having a committed husband (who is typically older than the wife). What is more, the strong tendency to have pregnancy much later in life has resulted in greater frequencies of vairous age-related diseases in the children.
I have to say that I disagree. Just because a girl’s body is capable of having kids, doesn’t automatically mean that she is mentally mature enough to raise one. Some girls get periods at age 10-12, are they adults? I think not. Besides, I would like girls to enjoy their youth (in a positive, safe way of course) before they have the major responsibility of having kids.
In the late 1800s, the Archbishop of Cantebury got engaged with a twelve-year-old female. That was held to be utterly acceptable (and the marriage worked). When my mother was a child, the woman next door had been married at 14 and that marriage worked. When I visited an elderly woman in an old-folks’ home about 25 years ago, the immediate associates of her (about 8 women) ALL had been married at 15 (and all of their marriages lasted until death–and they raised all of their children.
The thing is, times back then were different. The marriages may have worked out, but then again, the girl probably had no choice but to stay in the marriage due to lack of outside opportunity and probably being dependent on the husband, so of course it worked out. Not saying that there wasn’t affection involved, although I wonder how much love could there be between a 12-16 and a full-fledge adult male.
When I visit Hutterite colonies, I notice that the maturity level of both males and females is easily 10 years ahead of what it is for those on the outside.
Full physical development typically is accomplished in the early teens. It’s a cultural problem of postponing, and often utterly avoiding responsibility via ever-larger government programs which are core to the exceedingly long extension of childhood.
Not growing up on the inside is the problem: not teen pregnancy. Out-of-wedlock pregnancy is the problem: not teen pregnancy. People should be raised to embrace responsibility and grow up, not be enhanced and entitled children till the day they die.
I do understand that when young people have more responsibility and less coddling they generally mature faster. But children and young people shouldn’t be rushed to grow up either. Let them enjoy their youth and have the opportunity to find out who they are, what they want out of life, and what they want to be before they have kids. Not to mention basic education to help teach and grow their future children.
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Gender foreigner is correct. Ages of consent and birth were far lower one hundred years ago than they are now. This is well documented historical fact. In the US in the year of 1850, the age of consent in all states of the union was either 10 or 12. In Brazil and Argentina today it is 13 and 14, respectively. In England in the 18th century, a boy could get married at 14 with parents consent and a girl at age 12 with parents consent. Under the Code Napoleon, the age of consent was originally 11, later raised to 13 in 1830. In Queen Victoria’s England in the 1880′s, the age of consent was 13. Additional examples would only belabor the point.
“E” is correct as well. The Tiger economies of east Asia will eat the debt ridden economies of Social Democratic Europe alive. Societies progress by creating wealth; not redistributing it.
As to the Supreme Court and its sophistries, these pricks and pussies basically give women a green light to make any accusation they want while imposing no penalty for lying. They should be held accountable to the American people for their innumerable offenses against common sense and clear thinking.
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Dear PeterTheGreat July 24, 2011 at 08:35:
Thanks for your submission. About two months ago, Canada’s Governor General awarded the Order of Canada (in effect, a colonial knighthood) to a Feminist activist. Her, “achievement” was to raise the age of consent from 14 to 16.
In so doing, the Criminal Code of Canada makes the Feminist Government School Curriculum which openly aids and abets/counsels fornication from at least Grade 6 (where students are typically about 12 years old). As such, the Feminist CCC amendment made the Feminist Curriculum a criminal offence.
Of course, the Feminists wouldn’t have seen that implication as they are monomaniac. When/if someone points out the implications against their own curriculum, of course, the Feminist women and their property, spineless men, the gender quislings will get a pussy pass/mangina pass, of course.
I have no problem with teenage sex: it’s fornication which is the problem. The American book, The Garbage Generation is a must read. I can’t say enough good about it.
Again, PeterTheGreat, thank you for your submission.
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Dear AndrewV July 24, 2011 at 13:58:
Thank you for your response. I’m glad to see you had such a good experience and such actually exists.
As with so many others, there are ranges of variations re any group, including religious demonation of Christianity, etc. I’ve seen more Baptists, including those who consider themselves to be, “Bible-believing, fundamentalist…” In those such groups, Feminism has made its inroads, and when I make mention of the particulars of their practices which are exactly in opposition to paricular Scriptures about gender roles, they only give opposition. They even support Sarah Palin and Canada’s lefty/Feminist Progressive Conservatives and Conservatives.
I’m glad you found some good ones. I would like to meet some, too.
Again, AndrewV, thank you for your response.
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Dear Renee July 24, 2011 at 20:00:
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My Words:
” the person of that body CAN be mature enough to raise that child, especially in the context of having a committed husband (who is typically older than the wife).”
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Your Words: (capitalization is mine)
“Just because a girl’s body is capable of having kids, DOESN’T AUTOMATICALLY MEAN that she is mentally mature enough to raise one. ”
As one can see, my original submission took into account your correct observation.
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Your Words:
“…but then again, the girl probably had no choice but to stay in the marriage due to lack of outside opportunity and probably being dependent on the husband, so of course it worked out.”
In other words, the restrictions put into place were the right thing to do as society and marriage were so much more functional than they are today. As such, those restrictions constituted an aspect of the measuredly, “good ol’ days.” As in driving restrictions, that people were required to drive on one side of the road and nother the other was substantially responsible for the lower rate of automobile collisions and injuries and deaths associated with them.
There is such thing as bad freedom. There is such a thing as good freedom. Bad freedom is called Liberteenism (spelling?). And marriage of today is characterized with Liberteenism.
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Your Words:
“I wonder how much love could there be between a 12-16 and a full-fledge adult male.”
I’ve known people who have had such age-difference relationships and they’ve worked (and continue to work). People can get along. Today, age-differentiaged relationships are looked-down upon in the Western Femist World even when it is obvious that such relationships are working and even working very very much better than the typical Western ones.
People had trouble conceiving trees which were so large that buses could drive through them (northern California and southern British Columbia, e.g.), but once one sees them, one has no trouble at all. (And historically, early-teen-40s marriage worked in the 1700s and 1800s in Canada’s West as per the fur trade. Some failed (not because of age difference but because of infidelity as in same-age marriages. Many worked marvelously.
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Your Words:
“Some girls get periods at age 10-12, are they adults? I think not. Besides, I would like girls to enjoy their youth (in a positive, safe way of course) before they have the major responsibility of having kids.”
Tests for such include the full formation of the breasts of the female (as indicated in ancient Hebrew Scripture, e.g.). I’ve spoken with Indian elders who told me that such tests were used with their young females also. Again, if the person is mature, and the body is mature (and the maturity is aided by the companion of a mature male), such can work quite well.
I’ve seen many Indian pregnancies in the early teens. In each case, no physical problem arose: all problems were socio-economic. All pregnancies were illegitimate and that is the problem, not teen pregnancy.
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Your Words:
“But children and young people shouldn’t be rushed to grow up either. Let them enjoy their youth and have the opportunity to find out who they are, what they want out of life, and what they want to be before they have kids.”
Such is not to appreciate that the embracement and exercise of responsibility is joy and, that the avoidance of responsibility is grief as measured by so many things.
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Your Words:
“Not to mention basic education to help teach and grow their future children.”
The richest per-capaita people on Earth is Switzerland. There, only 25% of the population goes beyond Grade 6 (12 years old). The government curriculum does not typically aid and abet maturity: it aids and abets imaturity.
As a teacher of over 20 years experience, I can account that the development of maturity and real education in the people in the government schools is enhanced very much more by the responsiblities that those same people exercise OUTSIDE of school. And, what they do/don’t do in school aids and abets their exercise of drift and irresponsibility, with their concommitant depression and low self-esteem.
Government Schools are a scam for the Feminist indoctrination and parasitism of the system’s staff at all levels. I could go on virtually forever on this one, but enough said.
Thank you for your submission, Renee.
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Dear john thames July 24, 2011 at 20:02:
Amen, and thank you for your response. Again, I say, Amen (big time).
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gender foreigner@
” Her, “achievement” was to raise the age of consent from 14 to 16.”
Part of the goal is to make normal sex almost impossible. Thus we, as a society, are steeped in sex through advertising and television, but feminism has made it next to impossible for normal relations between the sexes. This is done either with legal restrictions such as the “age of consent”, implying that heterosexual sex is always “rape”, denying the husband his marriage rights, or otherwise.
Feminists really want the age of consent at about 17-18 for both sexes, and have gotten it in many US States. Another point is that the higher the age of consent, the more likelihood that women in their 30s have a better shot at men who would normally marry a younger woman – but can’t because she is below the age of consent. Thus it also restricts competition.
“I have no problem with teenage sex: it’s fornication which is the problem. The American book, The Garbage Generation is a must read. I can’t say enough good about it. ”
I agree. Dr. Amneus had it pegged. Reading The Garbage Generation, and then other works, were a seminal event in my life in understanding what exactly is going on. Read/download it here – http://www.fisheaters.com/garbagegeneration.html
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Dear PeterTheGreat July 25, 2011 at 10:38:
Amen. Personally, I keep forgetting to remember that so much of what women does is to ELIMINATE THE COMPETITION (Affirmative Action), Age Limits to Consent/Marriage, etc. Thanks for your valid points.
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> “This realization fuels the Jihadists vision of conquering the west and creating a worldwide Islamic utopia. To them it’s only a matter of time.”
This is BS about Islam. Fear-mongering. I’m sure many Muslims look at the West and see it intent on “feminizing” their countries. If you were them, would you WELCOME a West that has made manhood a “sin”?
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