Employment Game Part I : The Problem of Finding Work in the Context of the Woman’s Nation

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by Featured Guest on May 29, 2011

By Uncle Elmer

“Employment Game” means using counter-intuitive strategies to scratch up work in a feminized economy. Counter-intuition is required because there are many popular delusions about finding work, and worse there is a lot of idiotic disinformation on the web about how to conduct work search and prospect interviewing. This disinformation is cloaked as advice on how to be a compliant and obedient employee in a female dominated workforce; or in Game parlance, a Beta. If you are an older man trying to put food on the table, following this advice is guaranteed to get you subjected to a lot of demeaning treatment at the hands of women and their beta allies who are temporarily enjoying their day in the corporate sun. This essay could also be titled How to Find Work for Men Over 35 Volume I, by R. Don Steele (http://steelballs.com/), subtext: Providing Tactics and Techniques that Younger Men Can Also Profit From.

Times have certainly changed thanks to broad mandates (heh heh) for promoting female employment. Companies are required to demonstrate adherence to female hiring quotas and promotion if they want to do business with the government. But the cold fact remains that women are competing for jobs but are not creating them. Other than providing a mass market for their vanity products, they are not forging new industries or technologies. Government efforts to promote women are marginalizing that small percentage of men who passionately innovate, destroy, and create ideas and take the risks to drive them to actualization

Though men shank me and insult me, only men provide me with opportunity. Women can only insult me and deprive me of opportunity. Only men, and only a small fraction of them, take the risks that create industry and opportunity. These men are job “sources”, whereas almost all women are job “sinks”. Virtually no female is a job source. Women can only serve as mere functionaries in man-created structures. When such an organization becomes feminized, priority shifts from efficient and profitable production of goods and services to development of labarynthine rules for the comfort and security of women. It morphs from capitalist enterprise to attempted socialist utopia. Ossification and organizational death are inevitable.

What few women there are that truly create work are doing so outside of government-mandated feminization initiatives. They would probably agree with what I am saying here. Recently I met a lady running an auto repair shop. She was knowledgable, professional, had great customer skills, and competitive pricing. She also had a crew of men working in the back. Problem is that there are so few women doing this compared to the vast tide of brainwashed idiots that you are wasting your marketing efforts in approaching them.

I want to avoid a gender rant but am saying these things to describe the situation facing a lot of men and provide you with tool links to work around it. Many men have a vague sense of this but need concurrence from other guys to become fully aware. The frustration in looking for work and encountering this phenomena and trying to make sense of it can truly make a man feel unhinged. It doesn’t help that popular media is constantly crowing that it is your just deserts for being a older, white male (http://www.newsweek.com/2011/04/17/dead-suit-walking.html) or that you are a bitter, angry or immature man who can’t compete with today’s falsely empowered woman (http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/07/the-end-of-men/8135/). I don’t want to argue with feminists about the fairness my viewpoint; it’s just the facts on the ground that a man has to deal with, and considerations for enabling my competitors to support a gender-equal workforce are frankly not in my interests.

This is a huge topic, it’s impossible in the space of this blog page to provide you with a winning formula for your particular skills and market. Chick Game enthusiasts avidly discuss all permutations and interpretations of female psychology towards scoring with babes. So it is with Employment Game, and I’m looking to some of the more experienced fellows (read : geezers) on this site to fill in details. I won’t be too specific to my industry because I don’t want to unleash an army of slick-haired amateurs right into my own turf. The methods will work no matter your marketable skill.

There are also a lot of resources already available that I will provide some pointers to. I didn’t invent this stuff, but had to educate myself in the face of my experiences. I looked for answers amidst a deluge of useless information. One guy who has codified it, though not specifically regarding men’s issues, is Ask the Headhunter; check out his site : http://asktheheadhunter.com/. You can probably pick up his book used on Amazon for the price of shipping, along with many other good, readable sales books. Go to your local library as well as it probably has quite a few of these.

A couple of caveats. I am no major success story but these methods are paying off. I am eating and getting some measure of personal satisfaction from finding work and more importantly, that what I am doing is providing work for others. My many personal failures have given me the experience to provide this advice.

Secondly, it is imperative that you understand the entrepreneur’s view. Almost always it is a man who mortgages his house to start a business or pursue a grand idea. When he does he faces a tidal wave of prospective employees who want a steady paycheck, benefits, and assignments to process, not to mention consideration of personal issues that have nothing to do with running the business. On top of that, he encounters no small amount of competitors, grifters, and thieves. Most people don’t have a clue about the difficulties and risks facing a business man but are quick to start crowing about their “rights” and compensation when they latch onto a job. What are you doing to bring in money or help a man grow his business? What justifies your paycheck? When you start to adopt this mental attitude you are shifting from a mindless sponge to an opportunity driver. It will make you less secure in the short term job situation but will open up a wealth of long-term opportunty. Futher, attempting any business activity on your own, though it will likely fail, gives you the perspective and language for working with these guys. You are transforming from prospective-employee to business multiplier.

In writing this essay I came up with so much material that I had to break it into two parts. Part II will provide specific tools for developing your sales persona, marketing process, and attitude for circumventing the corporate façade that is designed to exclude you. It will be less rant and more practical information. This will take about a week, as right now I actually do have work that I picked up using the techniques I will describe. Over the next few days I need to produce a lot of drawings and plans to prepare for a technical conference. I have been asked to attend two full days of the conference and will face my usual struggle of trying not to make an idiot of myself. Initially I balked at attending but that’s what the customer wants, so I better stop tweaking about my Spearhead essay and concentrate on the work that’s actually bringing in some nickels.

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gender foreigner May 29, 2011 at 06:00

Dear Uncle Elmer:

At a minimum, ditto. I am so discouraged/victimized by the parasitic, dummying-down feminine right to harm the male race. My whole life story surrounds my having been victimized by Women’s Affirmative Action against men starting in 1986.

I am bitter, pained, angry… Women’s crimes have to be stopped. I wish there were someone out there who would stop them. Women do not (categorically–there are individual exceptions) possess the humanity to oppose their own oppose their own inhumanity, unlove, parasitism, lift theft…

I need to succeed in doing what you will recommend. My stolen nonlife is a void of indeterminant victimhood by force of state. I was uniquely qualified for the job for which I had applied. I had worked hard and succeeded. I had said no to life for a decade so that I could reap a deserved better life with all intended fullness for myself, a wife, children whom I had planned to raise right…

I am a victim of women’s right to harm/men’s responsibility to be harmed. The smooth ride for the female is founded on the shock absorbed repeatedly by the masculine shock absorber, time and time again. I am not dead yet so I am still subjected to ever mounting bumps without concern for men/only mounting concern against me.

In so many ways, and irreversably so, I am destroyed.

Help.

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epoche* May 29, 2011 at 07:03

It may sound absurd but you can make a decent living working for a student loan collection agency. Its not hard work

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epoche* May 29, 2011 at 07:27

a large portion of employment game depends on whom you drink with. know what bars to go into, I dont mean randomly, plan this ahead of time, if you drink with the right people and you click you will have access to jobs that you would not otherwise have the chance at. I used to sell things over the phone so I am going to give a few hints:
always ask people where they are from if their accent sounds different, learn about where people are from and something about their geography or cultural differences. Ask them about their jobs and what differentiates them from a similar job or what difficulties their job probably encounters in the current market. there are a lot of unlisted jobs out there.

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SingleDad May 29, 2011 at 07:28

Thanks Elmer, great article and a critically important are for men today. My failures and areas for learning are mainly in the relationship arena, I’ve been in the same job in health care for over 20 years.

We are currently hiring although I don’t get involved in making the decision, I do interviews and my opinion is sought after by my boss, a very nice and intelligent woman who definitely does have a heart, unlike the women I found myself in relationships with. I chose to work for her, the only truley wise decision I’ve made regarding women.

If anyone has any questions about how feminism manifests iteslf in hiring process in health care, I would be happy to help. Feminism is present in every level of the process of hiring, is invisible, secret and ever present. I don’t have a solution but maybe someone can listen to my experience and figure one out.

One thing I would like to share is that many here are in the technology field and that field is relatively new in health care. Also, we are hiring providers (and don’t call us providers, a major fail by IT types), not firing in a major recession, and we are not a top level organization.

My point is that health care is an excellent area right now if your looking for work. Look into health care if you are looking to work.

Also, there are many opportunites to improve technology in health care. We are still using hardware from the 1980′s. It’s hard to justify IT products when the decision makers are only concerned with EKG machines or the latest tests.

This is a failure of management and why we are still only talking about electronic medical records.

I had the opportunity to choose my research. I chose medical informatics and it’s been berry berry good to me.

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andybob May 29, 2011 at 07:31

Dear Gender Foreigner,
I was very concerned reading your comment. You have alluded to your sense of hopelessness before, but never stated it so strongly. I have been reading your comments for quite some time and you sound like a smart, decent guy with lots to offer (stuck in Femiloon Canada must be hell).

You feel bitter and pained by the inhumanity of the system and its perpetrators, but they have not destroyed you. Muster all of the courage within you to hang in there and know that you can and will continue the fight. You need to finish your book, and then begin the next one.

Stay focussed on protecting your realm and use everything that you know to help other men. Remember that you have escaped the marital yoke and there is much to celebrate in that. You say that you feel like a shock absorber taking blow after blow from the enemythat seems to have won. But they haven’t won. The tide is going to turn – and soon.

Don’t let the bastards get you down,GF. The MRM needs your passion and intelligence, especially as you are a teacher acutely aware of the damage wrought by the system around you. Stay in your corner and fight. You’re not alone in this fight my friend. Everyone here is with you.

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Migu May 29, 2011 at 07:38

Thanks Uncle Elmer. Good stuff.

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Keyster May 29, 2011 at 07:43

Thanks Uncle Elm!
Looking forward to more.

Old white guys are the scourge of major employers right now. They want youth, diversity and women…who does THAT leave out in the cold? If they hire an old white guy (OWG), it’s because they absolutely had no other choice. There simply were no other candidates “of color” or vagina that came close to meeting the job requirements.

One good book:
http://www.amazon.com/Somebody-Around-Insider-Secrets-Hired/dp/0312373341/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1306679726&sr=1-1

The BEST tip. Don’t go to an interview without washing the grey out of your hair first. Grey hair is the first visual que that you’re an OWG.

Excellent book on OWG discrimination horror stories:
http://www.amazon.com/Rantings-Single-Male-Correctness-Everything/dp/0976261316/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1306679904&sr=1-3

And for you younger guys; you’ll be an OWG yourselves one day, God willing.
Heed these words we speak and prepare yourselves, because it’s only gonna get worse.

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Migu May 29, 2011 at 07:46

“If anyone has any questions about how feminism manifests iteslf in hiring process in health care, I would be happy to help. Feminism is present in every level of the process of hiring, is invisible, secret and ever present. I don’t have a solution but maybe someone can listen to my experience and figure one out.”

I would like to know. I’m searching for other work right now. I’m still employed where I am at. Uhh way to contact you?

Can’t really give the details, except that I’m being set up as a scapegoat.

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Me May 29, 2011 at 07:49

Currently I’m dealing with a situation at work.

I was hired at the same time as a woman to do a job that, well, basically ceased to exist within three months of us getting hired. Now, she’s used to being in very large corporations and this is a 75-person company whose major customer suddenly ran into financial troubles…hence the lack of job description for the pair of us.

What do I do? Go around to other departments and drum up work for myself? What does she do? Badmouths me to my colleagues.

HR (basically the company accountant) is now involved and the squeaky wheel gets the grease so now I’m having to defend myself against someone who’s been playing playing politics because she, like I, can see that the music will stop and someone’ll be left without a chair.

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Uncle Elmer May 29, 2011 at 07:57

“The smooth ride for the female is founded on the shock absorbed repeatedly by the masculine shock absorber, time and time again.”

Men have traditionally been the buffer in the solution, which has now become depleted. The workplace has become toxic from feminine excess.

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gender foreigner May 29, 2011 at 08:02

Dear SingleDad May 29, 2011 at 07:28:

‘If anyone has any questions about how feminism manifests iteslf in hiring process in health care, I would be happy to help. Feminism is present in every level of the process of hiring, is invisible, secret and ever present. I don’t have a solution but maybe someone can listen to my experience and figure one out.’

I echo the sentiments of Migu May 29, 2011 at 07:46. How can one scratch a sliver of a place in this criminal forest of a women’s world? I NEED to know. Thanks for your submission (both Migu & Uncle Elmer).

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gender foreigner May 29, 2011 at 08:04

Dear Uncle Elmer May 29, 2011 at 07:57:

Amen, big time. Your understatement is noted all too well. I’m glad to see that there are sympathetic men on The Spearhead (and women, too). It’s such a criminal women’s worldk/mangina’s world.

We must fight. We have no other way.

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Uncle Elmer May 29, 2011 at 08:07

“Feminism is present in every level of the process of hiring, is invisible, secret and ever present.”

The facade I am talking about. It is one thing to encounter it, quite another to make sense of it, and difficult to develop a game to that doesn’t jump though its hoops.

The point is to devise a strategy that avoids it completely. The man you want to talk to is in the back, running the warehouse, selling the equipment, getting the research grant, welding the axle, stocking his “Rap” clothing store…

You have to recode your interface as the current API is inoperable.

It’s time for men to rekindle the secret handshake, to reform the good-old boy networks that in the past created economic prosperity for all.

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Uncle Elmer May 29, 2011 at 08:12

“Can’t really give the details, except that I’m being set up as a scapegoat.”

Been there a dozen times, usually with my own foot inserted in the boot that kicks me in the nuts.

Also thinking of an essay “The Real Reason the New Guy Can’t Code”, which is not at all what this guy is saying :

http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/07/why-the-new-guy-cant-code/

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SF May 29, 2011 at 08:30

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-26/oil-religion-and-women-in-the-workforce.html

The above article is written from the other side, but it points out that economies dominated by extractive industries and manufacturing are dominated by men. Maybe we need tariffs to get our manufacturing back, and not quite as many environmental regulations to hamper our extractive industries.

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oddsock May 29, 2011 at 08:32

Nice one Uncle Elmer.

Interesting points you make.

I look forward to the next part. My two pence worth so far is to simply add that there is also a slightly different approach to the problems you highlighted. In short, a major change in mindset. I don’t mean keeping within the current frame work and having a mindset change . I mean life style change etc. It’s all about MGTOW. If you still want to be part of the keeping up with the Jones’s etc, fine, no problem. I am quite sure Uncle Elmer’s advice will help. Just saying. There are also other alternatives so either way, all is not lost.

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Raj May 29, 2011 at 08:40

I can’ t be sure this is a conspiracy but I think increased female employment compared to males is beneficial to the business class.

Wages paid to women quickly seep back into the economy. Few women ‘hold money’. Women love to shop and many are addicted to it. They are also more likely to go in debt (the bad kind) and tend to purchase high profit products, seldom buying used. Paycheck goes back where it came from.

In other words women are cheaper to hire for most service / non creative jobs.

Many years ago I worked at a fashion clothes retail store. Many women worked there just so they could get the 40% employee discount!!

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gender foreigner May 29, 2011 at 08:44

Dear SF May 29, 2011 at 08:30:

Good points.

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Uncle Elmer May 29, 2011 at 08:46

“I mean life style change etc. It’s all about MGTOW. ”

I agree with that oddsock. It will be covered in the section “Developing an Unemployment Lifestyle”. Part of Employment Game is reducing your consumption and participation.

Thing is, one must interact with other men no matter your path. To quote R.Don Steele “You cannot not play the game”.

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HARVEST May 29, 2011 at 08:49
HARVEST May 29, 2011 at 08:54

…”Earlier today, Congressman Anthony Weiner appears to have made an underwhelming debut on Twitter. Which is to say, Weiner seems to have fat-fingered a direct message to a young lady, instead publicly replying to her. His tweet included a link to a photo of a skinny white male wearing briefs while in an aroused state.

Robert Stacy McCain offers some details on the mystery lady, who earlier had publicly tweeted that Weiner is her boyfriend:

Gennette Nicole Cordova is a student at Whatcom Community College, Bellingham, Wash., where she is a reporter for the student newspaper, Horizon… It must be emphasized that at this point we have no idea whether Ms. Cordova actually knows Rep. Weiner, whether her Twitter claim of him being her “boyfriend” was just a joke, or whether Rep. Weiner actually communicated with Ms. Cordova.”

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Anonymous age 69 May 29, 2011 at 08:54

>>When such an organization becomes feminized, priority shifts from efficient and profitable production of goods and services to development of labarynthine rules for the comfort and security of women.

Amen!

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HARVEST May 29, 2011 at 08:58

…& pix of girl student and twitter screenplay of the event:

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2011/05/photos-anthony-weiners-self-proclaimed.html

DONE.

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Charles Martel May 29, 2011 at 08:59

Thanks for writing this, Uncle Elmer.

Times have certainly changed thanks to broad mandates (heh heh) for promoting female employment.

Yup. Many manipulative mandates manifesting manifold manicured manageresses.

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oddsock May 29, 2011 at 08:59

Seeing as we are all looking at the alternatives.

Here is something that may interest some of you. From what I gather, it is a new form of currency.

Bitcoins.

http://www.weusecoins.com/

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greenlander May 29, 2011 at 09:16

I have to second your recommendation about the book “Ask the Headhunter” http://www.amazon.com/Ask-Headhunter-Reinventing-Interview-Win/dp/B001R23FTS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1306685719&sr=8-1 and his site http://asktheheadhunter.com/.

The best way to find a job today is to bypass all the normal HR processes and get right to the decision maker. Nick goes into a lot of strategies about how to do that.

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Uncle Elmer May 29, 2011 at 09:33

Thanks for the link Keyster. Part II will detail how to develop a marketing process that works for you. The information is already out there.

As for older guys, you get better results when selling yourself to your peers; men in the 50s and 60s, even beyond.

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Keyster May 29, 2011 at 09:35

“How can one scratch a sliver of a place in this criminal forest of a women’s world?”

Openly support women’s rights.
Join NOW .
Volunteer at the local women’s shelter.
Be outwardly pro-female in every word or action.

“I think it’s about time we shatter the glass ceiling and make more women executives! Women bring a unique perspective to any business. They’re naturally more empathetic to the needs of the customer and work better with diverse groups of workers. They’re also better at communicating and multi-tasking then men. I support the advancement of women, because it helps us all.”

It’s practically a “can’t miss” strategy.

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oddsock May 29, 2011 at 09:42
SingleDad May 29, 2011 at 09:54

I want to put up some thoughtful, useful posts. I’ve been thinking about this problem from reading the difficulties guys here are having and just finished interviewing a very similar man and woman for a position and am listening to the women and men who did interviews and how the decision is being made. My boss hasn’t decided who to hire. So this is a great learning situation.

When my thoughts come together I will post. As far as contacting me, if Price doesn’t mind maybe he can give my email to regular posters here. I trust your judgement Price. I am not an employment coach but will do what I can do. Please don’t be upset if I don’t respond rapidely, I’m pretty busy working and parenting.

I did want to comment on MGTOW. I think this is essential whether your employed or not. Being employed and giving it all to a person who doesn’t care about you is what I did for 10 years and have nothing to show for it other than the scars you are all familiar with.

Keeping what you make and being able to start your own thing are essential so, MGTOW is the only way, in my opinion. Live fugally, spend wisely and don’t waste a dime. IMO we are all prostitutes selling parts of ourself for some sheckles, don’t waste your life or your money.

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Uncle Elmer May 29, 2011 at 10:08

SD, most guys walk into an interview and act out the script they have been programmed to believe, or worse, falling into some demeaning exercises devised by HR Psychology BA’s.

The trick is to turn it around into a sales job and keeping the discussion on what you do, not what you are. If it means open defiance of the scheduled activities (jumping through hoops like a little poodle) and getting crossed off the list, so be it.

From “Making it in High Tech Sales” by Ken Pederson : He who reveals the most about himself, loses.

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meistergedanken May 29, 2011 at 10:23

Bravo. This article is full of insight and guidance that men need right now, more than ever.

“Women can only serve as mere functionaries in man-created structures. ”

That is destined to be a classic quote. In one sentence it distills perfectly a fundamental truth, and thus, should not be lost to the ages. It should be appropriately enshrined somewhere.

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Commander Shepard May 29, 2011 at 10:31

“Being employed and giving it all to a person who doesn’t care about you is what I did for 10 years and have nothing to show for it other than the scars you are all familiar with. ” – SingleDad

When Muhammad saw the fires of hell he observed that majority of it’s inhabitants were women who were ungrateful to their husbands. Was Muhammad an MRA nearly 1500 years before the Spearhead?

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Depravo May 29, 2011 at 11:07

Unlike many of you, back in the ‘service economy’ I used to relish interviews with middle-aged women. I can’t seduce for shit but somehow am a natural at chatting up menopausal women in a professional setting. It’s a valuable skill, or was back in the dark days I ran up against women at every turn at work.

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Avenger May 29, 2011 at 11:49

@Keyster

The BEST tip. Don’t go to an interview without washing the grey out of your hair first. Grey hair is the first visual que that you’re an OWG.

I would actually say to do the opposite, make yourself look as old as possible so you don’t get hired. Then sue for age discrimination. Why work at all? lol You can make a career just out of suing people for money. Insurance companies usually settle these cases and even if it’s not a tremendous amount you an just keep suing companies that reject you due to age. Let the stupid females do all the work haha

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buck swamp May 29, 2011 at 12:49

There is a description for societies that cannot find meaningful employment for their young men: third-world. America is getting there way ahead of schedule. And who said feminism couldn’t accomplish anything?

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King Alfred May 29, 2011 at 12:57

As men of all ages, our greatest need is to find ways to succeed in a world that is determined to use every dirty trick in the book to destroy us.

We know that feminists and white knights will take every opportunity to crush us. In order to become truly free, we must be able to stand securely on our own two feet, regardless of the opposition. It is becoming increasingly clear that the only way this can happen is for each man to acquire skills and abilities that will enable him to be self-employed. Starting a business that employs others only makes him a target. But, being able to carry his own weight- and the weight of a family, if he chooses to take an awful chance on trying to create and keep one- is the key to success.

As men, we have learned of the damage caused by feminism and other misbegotten ideologies. What we really need now is the cumulative wisdom and experience of other men to help us learn to make our own way in the world. Career advice from the traditional sources is worth less than nothing. In the past, honest, hard work and education paid off. We need more than that to succeed today. We need direction that only our more-experienced brothers can provide.

I applaud the recent articles focused on men’s unemployment. We need to be educated about honest solutions to the problem that will help us rise again on our own power, in spite of discriminatory hiring practices and an uneven corporate playing field. I don’t have the answers, but I would very much like to see additional articles devoted to this subject.

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Fabron May 29, 2011 at 12:57

Off topic a bit, but this is news out of California that deserves wider notice.

A state senator, a Democrat no less, is continuing his push for fairness in divorce regarding alimony, child support and DNA tests. Well worth reading and supporting:

http://www.sacbee.com/2011/05/23/3646217/dan-walters-sen-rod-wright-reignites.html

Be sure to read the comments that largely support the state senator — even some women think the current divorce laws are wrong. Of course, the feminists are opposed to any changes in the law.

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Uncle Elmer May 29, 2011 at 13:27

Me : “I was hired at the same time as a woman to do a job that, well, basically ceased to exist within three months of us getting hired. Now, she’s used to being in very large corporations and this is a 75-person company whose major customer suddenly ran into financial troubles…hence the lack of job description for the pair of us.

What do I do? Go around to other departments and drum up work for myself? What does she do? Badmouths me to my colleagues.

HR (basically the company accountant) is now involved and the squeaky wheel gets the grease so now I’m having to defend myself against someone who’s been playing playing politics because she, like I, can see that the music will stop and someone’ll be left without a chair.”

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I have been in exactly this situation. Quite common. The company staffs up in response to new business and hires multiple people at the same level with poorly defined work roles.

She will cut your throat every chance she gets, and mind you, men will do it as well. Here’s your personalized advice :

Mentally accept that next Friday is your last day. Visualize it.

Be professional and try to do a good job. Otherwise don’t put up with crap.

Start looking for new work now. Put your energy into your work search and not this infernal female. To battle her you will have to feminize. You’re going to take the opposite tack

When you land the new work, leave your current job post-haste. On Friday announce it’s your last day. “Why?” they ask, stunned. “I found a better job making more money.” you reply. They won’t give you any time when they fire you and you don’t owe them anything more than that.

But stay professional and walk out like a pro. That means no drama. If they press for answers imply your opponent and let them know that life is too short for that bullshit.

She may turn out to be your best friend in stimulating you on to a better, higher paying situation. Six months later you will hear about her getting fired or walking out as well the second a better offer comes along.

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Keyster May 29, 2011 at 14:27

“I would actually say to do the opposite, make yourself look as old as possible so you don’t get hired. Then sue for age discrimination.”

That’s extremely difficult to prove and here’s why:

HR or their employment lawyer will be asked to provide a list of all the people over say age 55 that are employed by the company. They’ll submit the list to the EEOC (assuming you go that route), and demonstrate an inordinate number of people aged 55 and over are indeed employed there.

These people will consist of mostly the executive ranks and even some board members. “You see we don’t practice age discrimination, we actually employ X number of them.” I’ve seen this tactic used and it’s very effective in closing the case.

The EEOC is NOT interested in age discrimination, because there are no age quotas to abide by. They’re interested in minorities and women ONLY, or the “special indentifiable classes”. They base quota ratios off of local census demographics. If your area has a 5% population of blacks, you will need to have a work force that is 5% black, or at least strive to. Women need to be “equally represented” to men in management.

I know it seems unbelievable, but that’s the way its done.
It’s also federal law.

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maaldweb May 29, 2011 at 14:40

Another aspect of the problem is the 50 year old “alpha” CEOs who lust their 20 year old secretaries and end up being manipulated by them or who prefer to hire women over men because they want to build a form of a harem.

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Twenty May 29, 2011 at 14:54

Some quick thoughts on finding work:

1.) HR is fucking useless. I’ve never gotten a job/interview/callback once a resume disappeared into the maw of HR. You must get the attention of the hiring manager if you’re going to get anywhere.

2.) The only ways to get the attention of the hiring manager are (a.) “networking”, or (b.) focusing on startups too small to have HR departments.

3.) Leads, leads, leads. In my experience I’ll look at 10 companies to find one that’s worth sending a resume to, and send 20 resumes to (eventually) get one offer. So, much like dating, it’s a numbers game, and critical to fill the top of the funnel. Doing this is an industry-specific trick.

4.) There’s absolutely no reason that your resume should be more than a page long. A hiring manager hates reading resumes, and your 5-page magnum opus causes him physical pain. How do you think that’s going to affect your hiring prospects?

5.) No one likes a jackass. Keep the braying self-promotion to a minimum in the resume and cover letter. It’s just like dating: “show, don’t tell”.

6.) Unless they’re calling you with solid unsolicited leads, headhunters are not worth your time.

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Commander Shepard May 29, 2011 at 15:05

Very true maaldweb. Hell it’s not even CEOs. I’m in my mid 20′s and just landing a entry level job is extraordinarily difficult. All the positions go to young attractive women. You see the fat, middle aged manager (a beta no less) feels good when a young babe has to serve him. It’s not like he could ever get these girls to talk to him in any other setting but at least at work he feels like an alpha.

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Classic Joe May 29, 2011 at 15:48

Being an old white guy is certainly a problem sometimes but there are other problems. A lot of old white guys where I am don’t realize that they’re being discriminated against for having a protestant background. They can’t relate to it at all. It happens a lot. It took years but when I got my head around this I realized, to some extent anyway, just how different cultures are. Multiculturalism is insane. It’s the kind of thing that is championed by people who are using it to get away with something. Multiculturalism helps the worst kind of people get ahead.

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AfOR May 29, 2011 at 15:55
Rebel May 29, 2011 at 16:28

In case of an economic collapse, even those with preferential jobs stand to lose everything.

One important thing is to learn how to cope with such a collapse.

Here are some worthy advises:

http://www.realecontv.com/videos/post-collapse/where-were-headed-and-what-to-do-about-it-.html

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) May 29, 2011 at 16:33

The best way to make sure you have a job over the longer term is to invent one for yourself and make sure that you are really good at it. Then you sell your skills into a marketplace against people who simply can not compete.

A BIG part of that is to make sure you have tools and techniques that allow you to do the job better and faster than anyone else. Whether this is as a builder or as a software developer or whatever. If you invest time and effort into yourself and into your toolkit to do your job? Over the years you will get better and better at it and you will build a toolkit that will differentiate you from everyone else.

One of the most amazing things about the toolkit I use for my job now is that it is so advanced that most people simply can not believe that it even exists. Even when I hand out the rather extensive manuals? They still can not believe it exists. But a recent major client said that we were able to deliver in 6 months what normally took 3 years to do. So that’s a nice quote. When we bid for business we are generally about 50% the cost of IBM, Oracle, MSFT.

This is what one client recently wrote about me. This man is the second best project manager I have ever met and I am pleased to say I helped him get his next contract by passing an opportunity along. The client is a EUR4.5B revenue client with 18,000 staff. A household name in the UK. Not ‘small bikkies’ as we say in Australia.

When you can get references like this? You are doing ok. This is what young men should aim for if they want to do well in business. You get your clients to talk about you like this. THEN you will get MUCH more work. Notice how the referee notes my connections in the industry and my leadership qualities for the project. We invented some new techniques on this project that we went on to use in later projects and we productised for later resale to future clients.

This is how to make sure you still have a job when you are an ‘old white guy’ like me at 47. Simply put? When there is no woman who can actually do what you can do? All the ‘affirmative action’ in the world will not help her take your job away. Indeed. What has happened to me consistently was that women who were given jobs to do messed them up and I get to clean them up.

In 2001 I went to the US for ‘two weeks’ to install some software. The CEO of the client asked to see the VP for the firm I was consulting to while I was there. Apparently the female project manager had been lying in her project reports that ‘all was good’ when it was not. The VP from the vendor took me aside and asked me if I was free to find out ‘what the hell is going on here’. It was a real mess. So I reported back to him in a week on the real state of play. The result? I worked on that client for NINE months. The woman created such a fuss that she was eventually banned from the client and ‘sent back to the office’. I won’t say how much money I made in the 9 months but it was WELL over USD100K. All because a woman project manager messed up!

I LOVE affirmative action! It makes it so easy to look good.

Here you go lads….when you get references like this? You have ‘made it’.

“Peter was the core business and technical consultant from XXXX assigned to support the XXXX bid to xxxxxxxx xxxxxxx to deliver a Strategic Data warehouse.

He drove the tender response in competition with 5 other vendors and XXXX won hands down, both in terms of quality of proposal and coming in at less than half the total project cost of the closest competitor (IBM). Xxxxxxx were comparative novices in the area and I feel fairly confident that if any of the other major vendors had been appointed, we would have “forgotten” to ask for something and would have needed to negotiate for more budget.

Conversely what actually happened was that, several times during the course of the project, Peter came to me and said “we have thought of a better way of doing this and if you do this you will get more functionality and it will cost you less.” Peter’s knowledge and experience in BI and Datawarehousing appears to be unrivaled in the industry, he has personal contacts with the published domain gurus and always seems to think 3 steps ahead.

Peter architected and designed the solution which was developed off-shore, and it is a credit to his development management and cunning design-delivery-test process that the code that arrived back on-site worked flawlessly. Peter’s design and realization of the subsequent deployment fully exploited the capabilities of Netezza, allowing the datawarehouse to be fully populated overnight, rather than progressively over the course of several weeks which is more common.

Working with Peter in the team was a pleasure as he shared his knowledge generously with “anyone who would listen”, so at the end of the project, my in-house development team had completely taken on board the new way of working and were able to take over, eliminating the need for ongoing support from XXXXX, although he was available if required.

Peter understands the Telecomms domain deeply and is always driven by the business needs, never letting his obsessive love of the technology override the needs of the customer. I would not hesitate to recommend Peter for any BI/DWH project and if I ever run a datawarehouse project again, will absolutely insist on his involvement.”

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) May 29, 2011 at 16:39

Just in case anyone is in any doubt just how bad things are in the US?

Let Illuminati agent Rob Paul tell you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7vY0K1KRSc&NR=1

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Avenger May 29, 2011 at 16:57

Bitcoins.

Looks like a government front for spying.

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Bill May 29, 2011 at 17:05

“the cold fact remains that women are competing for jobs but are not creating them…”

I’m new to this site, so maybe this is old hat to you guys, but it really struck me.

I did technical writing for a long time; it was highly paid, but the wage began to decline as more and more women entered even the engineering workplace to the point that I eventually had to find another field.

The guys who had done this work longer than me shrugged, and said that when women entered a field it was only a matter of time before wages declined. It stands to reason: if women decide to enter a primarily male job area in great numbers, this doubles the size of the labor pool while leaving the number of jobs the same. Obviously, wages will decline.

But I now understand the full problem; women are entering these fields to cherry pick the good jobs, but are simply not up to taking the risk in expanding the size of the job market – that is, they do not start companies as men do.

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oddsock May 29, 2011 at 17:18

PAN

Well done with the reference. Warms my heart.

Avenger

Bitcoins.

Looks like a government front for spying.

Who knows? I thought the whole point of it was that it is outside of any prying eyes ?

I can’t quite get my head around it. ( as the actress said to the bishop )

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gender foreigner May 29, 2011 at 17:25

Dear Many:

As per the idea that the demasculinization of the work environment means an avoidance of PRODUCTION; the feminization of the work environment means the embracement of a pampered environment for women, the phenomena can be summed easily.

Men are PRODUCERS. Women are CONSUMERS. Period.

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Avenger May 29, 2011 at 17:30

Nolan-you’re mentally unbalaned if you believe Dr. Paul is an Illuminati agent, some thing that doesn’t even exist anyway. There is no world central committee that controls everything. There are individuals who get together and form cabals and corner certain markets or professions.
Next you’ll be telling us that the Scull & Bones controls the world. There’s really nothing unusual about men who were in a fraternity or club at a top Uni who later go on to top positions and who know each other. No different than the plumbers union who look out for each other and give the jobs to family members and friends.
Besides, most of the cabals on earth are fighting each other. The top men in every country on earth have always controlled the country not the proles who can’t even control their own lives. Even if you were able to replace the current government you would only be replacing it with another group of Alphas who may or not have your interests in common (not likely since all they’re after is power too)

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Avenger May 29, 2011 at 17:40

@oddsok

Who knows? I thought the whole point of it was that it is outside of any prying eyes ?

Are you serious? You have no idea who’s running it or what they’re up to.
The FBI runs these sorts of things to track people who think they’re hiding money. We know that they run these “child porn” entrapment sites. And I’m sure they’re involved in “anonymous” proxies that some people use believing they’re safe from being tracked bak to their IP. It’s called a “honey pot”. You’re safer just using an open connexion through your laptop wireless card.

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gender foreigner May 29, 2011 at 17:52

Dear Avenger May 29, 2011 at 17:30:

With respect, I suggest you visit HenryMakow.com (formerly, “savethemales.com”). Henry M is a former professor at the University of Winnipeg. About 10 years ago, he started opening up the discussion about Feminism, its one-sidedness, etc. The women’s university turfed him out immediately. He sued (I think it was as per defamation) and he won.

Since then, he has run the above-noted website. He presents convincing EVIDENCE of the Rockefeller, etc.-funded Feminist Problem. He discusses the Frankfurt School as per using doctrinaire Marxism but exchanging, “the ruling class” with, “men” and the proletariat with, “women.”

He has a mass of evidence. He is credible and committed. It took me a while to come to terms with the Satanic strategy to destroy good in the world.

He is a library of knowledge/evidence/sound argument worth visiting, time and time again.

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oddsock May 29, 2011 at 17:56

gender foreigner

Dear Many:

“As per the idea that the demasculinization of the work environment means an avoidance of PRODUCTION; the feminization of the work environment means the embracement of a pampered environment for women, the phenomena can be summed easily.

Men are PRODUCERS. Women are CONSUMERS. Period.”

Yes I agree however, a few points to consider.

Perhaps many men no longer want to be the producers ?
Perhaps women do cherry pick the jobs? Trouble is, as I mentioned in a previous post. Sooner or later they will have to realize that we still need some fecker who can actually pick up the paint brush and paint ! As this becomes more and more obvious wages for these jobs are rising.

We can only quality manage six sigma ISO 9000 audit trail et al so much. It has become so bad in the UK I have worked for companies that had meetings about meetings and such things as a compliance team to monitor the quality team that monitored the production team. On and on it went until you actually got to a few people on the shop floor actually making something to sell. They could hardly breath let alone make anything productively. And yes the vast majority of these monitoring teams consisted of women paper pushers. Its all a complete farce.

Further, there was recently quite an uproar here in the UK regarding the employment of many foreign workers from the EU. They was employed on a power station shut down and major refit. Apparantly, cheaper than paying UK craftsmen. Trouble was, the work standard was so bad they scrapped the whole project, ripped out almost all of the work and started afresh with UK craftsmen. It cost millions to rectify. If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys ! All this was predicted years ago. Oh, and not a female craftsperson to be found anywhere !

I read a story a while ago where a quailified lawyer packed in his practice to train and become a plumber of all things. I can’t remember the whole story but the gist of it was, a lot less stress, friendly people and better easier money could be made.

An old english saying; where there is muck there is money !

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gender foreigner May 29, 2011 at 17:56

Dear Avenger May 29, 2011 at 17:40:

“Are you serious? You have no idea who’s running it or what they’re up to.
The FBI runs these sorts of things to track people who think they’re hiding money. We know that they run these “child porn” entrapment sites. And I’m sure they’re involved in “anonymous” proxies that some people use believing they’re safe from being tracked bak to their IP. It’s called a “honey pot”. You’re safer just using an open connexion through your laptop wireless card.”

There is much to agree with in your above-quoted statement. Good points. Thanks.

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scot May 29, 2011 at 19:23

American “Gender-Feminists” want all state an federal grant monies to be funneled to gays and women first.
American “Gender-Feminists” want all gays and women to be as comfortable as possible in the University setting, and “gender-Feminists” (as a united whole) will have the inside number to the university presidents phone at all times. At the same time, gender-feminists want to make those nasty hetero-males feel as un-comfortable as possible, and if these hetero-males do manage to make it to the classroom setting, gender-feminists want them “in the back with their mouths shut”.

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scot May 29, 2011 at 19:33

We will soon reach the point in Americas history where the hetero-male purgings of American universities, will naturally 10 years from now lead to gays and women only in professional life.
Hetero-males will not have the college degrees necessary for state and federal pork grant monies, and may well be the last bastion of free enterprise in America.
But free enterprise itself will be in jeopardy, as American gender feminists want all “encouragement and start up dollars” to go to women first, and statistically womens businesses fail, for they refuse to work the 70 hours per week to forge a working free enterprise.

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gender foreigner May 29, 2011 at 19:36

Dear scot May 29, 2011 at 19:23:

Amen, for sure. The last time I was a student in a women’s government university (taking graduate Education–aka Women’s Studies spelled wrong), men, most especially white men were supposed to shut up, take the women’s hate and incompetence and like it.

I was hauled in by the Women’s Faculty of Women’s Education for having spoken up against the hate and incompetence the women were teaching. Women punished me by way of low marks for justifying my contrary positions as per their Feminist parasitic incompetence and hate. I was not going to be a good member of the Femireichfolk.

The women’s teacher unions, of course, are exactly the same, female-supremacist, homosupremacist…

Same old, same old.

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SingleDad May 29, 2011 at 19:41

@ Scott

You don’t need the government to start a business. I have started a few and the initial success was in keeping the governemt out.

It has only been recently that the government was a big part of start up money. I believe, and I’m no expert, that now that real estate is a bad investment, investors, small and large, are looking for profitable enterprises. Good investors will jump at a chance to recieve good returns on their money.

Since men are better at it, private investors will always be seeking out capable men, even if it means going around the law, IMO.

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scot May 29, 2011 at 19:45

The hetero male purgings of American universities may be a “flashpoint” in the very near future. And it may in fact come from the girls.

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Nemo May 29, 2011 at 20:13

We’ve already seen most manufacturing jobs leave the US for Asia.

We are now seeing the bright Asians who graduate from US universities leave for Asia because things are better over there for ambitious young guys.

Soon we will see white American citizen men leaving the country to pursue better opportunties overseas. The UK has already witnessed a million men “missing” from their census rolls.

The US has always assumed that its best men would just naturally stay put and work their butts off.

That will change.

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Rebel May 29, 2011 at 21:03

Maybe my own story can shed some hope in young men’s hearts.

When I hit the venerable old age of 55, the company that had hired me threw me on the garbage pile with a nice “good-bye” present. That was after twenty five years and a nice career. Everybody got shafted at 55.
They took a decision I didn’t take. And I was directly affected..

Three months after my demise, I started my own business as a competitor (of my ex-employer).

Everybody told me I was crazy to fight such a powerful opponent replete with lawyers. I never listen: that’s my problem.

I developped a plan in which I applied all the rules as expounded by Sun Tzu and Machiavel and I went after their customers and took fully one third of them in what I defined as my territory, my hunting ground, my game. I became a wolf.

I felt I was being propelled by a Saturn rocket.

I nearly doubled my revenue and worked less. I skimmed my ex-employer’s customer base and enjoyed much satisfaction in getting even.

When the going gets tough, the tough get going. Men must become warriors again. And forge through life with an unbending intent.
Adversity and difficulties can be mastered and used.

The first rule is to convince yourself that you cannot lose. When you do, woe to whom might try to stop you.

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Avenger May 29, 2011 at 22:17

@ Keyster
HR or their employment lawyer will be asked to provide a list of all the people over say age 55 that are employed by the company. They’ll submit the list to the EEOC (assuming you go that route), and demonstrate an inordinate number of people aged 55 and over are indeed employed there

But you an show that they don’t hire anyone over 55. Get a couple of old guys and let them pretend to apply for a job that you know they’ll be rejected for :)
EEOC? What’s that? You file a lawsuit in Fed Court for discrimination.
And btw, some of you guys who don’t appear to have much to do should go get a law degree. It’s only 3 years and at many universities you can arrange it so that you don’t even have to spend muh time in classes and study on your own and just take exams etc Many of these universities will even admit older mature students today who don’t have a degree and studied pre law. Perhaps just have to pass the entrance exam whih you an probably do with a bit of study and tutoring and then enter the law school. Don’t worry about money. Obama will pay for it with grants, loans and money for living expenses etc. In fact, you may even want to become a professional student for the rest of your life and get your living expenses paid for and never pay income tax :)

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fmz May 29, 2011 at 23:35

Start a biz that woeminz are dependent on, like any trade. Then charge them an arm and a leg. eg. $70 to change a tap washer.

Wealth transfer.

Aint it grand.

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Avenger May 30, 2011 at 00:06

fmz

$70?

How about $700?

And tell her it’s a special part you have to order. Make her wait 2 weeks lol

Females are not smart exept in trying to manipulate men sexually. You know how many females I know who have paid the sticker price for cars and other useless junk sold to them by salesMEN. And these girls had PhD’s and professional lienses lol

The only problem you may encounter is some pussy whipped nerd mangina who will do a job for nothing in the hope that she’ll let him take her out and spend money on her haha

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Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) May 30, 2011 at 00:09

OT..
and women wonder why I say they are simply not trustworthy.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1392045/Man-ordered-pay-100-000-children-ex-wife-tricks-clinic-using-frozen-sperm.html

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Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) May 30, 2011 at 00:45

Avenger May 29, 2011 at 17:30
“Nolan-you’re mentally unbalaned if you believe Dr. Paul is an Illuminati agent”

Then why is he so fond of making the Illuminati diablo hand signals. I guess he is a ‘texas long horns’ fan like the pope and Ahmedienerjadh is, eh?

“The best way to control the opposition is to lead it.” Lenin/Stalin.

You men don’t get it yet. ALL people who are ‘in power’ are agents.
ALL OF THEM.
Try this page.

http://www.rense.com/general85/satn.htm

Once again for those who missed it.

“The stupidity of most men is only exceeded by their arrogance and ignorance.” Me

If you men choose to remain ignorant of the fact that the Illuminati have constructed a control grid that is PERVASIVE then you are doomed to your slavery.

The Illuminati did not ‘infiltrate’ already existing and working institutions. They DESIGNED the institutions from the ground up to enslave you. You can not be free until you can see the control grid. You can not fee yourself from something you deny exists.

“There are none so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free.” Goethe.

He means you Avenger.

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Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) May 30, 2011 at 00:57

oddsock May 29, 2011 at 17:18
“Well done with the reference. Warms my heart.”

Thank you Oddsock. I get virtually ALL my work via references. When some company is ‘in trouble’ on a project they call around to find out who can ‘fix the mess’. My name comes up because I have never EVER left a client in the lurch.

One time in Australia a small company called Qantas (the Australian airline) had a project that was cancelled for the THIRD time. To be fair is was an extremely difficult project because it was for the cargo division and there is only one such organisation in Australia. The project manager who wrote the report recommending cancelling it was given the job and told that if he did not deliver his career was over. He told me later he called 10 of his most trusted colleagues around the IT world in Australia and explained his position. That the project simply must work but that it was an extremely difficult project that had failed three times before. He told me of the 10 people he talked to 6 gave him my name and told him to not allow anyone else to do the project. No-one else got more than one mention.

During the project the company I worked for, Informix, decided to lay off pretty much all the staff who were associated with it and I was also relocating to Ireland. My client asked me to put off my two week planned holiday with my family in my relocation to Ireland. The client said “we know we have no right to ask you to do this but it would be greatly appreciated”. In those two weeks I worked 8 hours each at two clients per day to ‘hand over’. Qantas paid for a ticket for my sister in law to take my place on the holiday. Upgraded me to business class from Sydney to Paris and shipped 80kgs of luggage for me saving me thousands. I left the building at 6am the day I was to fly out. Showered, met a client for breakfast, had a farewell lunch, went to the airport and flew out of Sydney not to return for 6 years. A very busy two weeks. Whenever I need a reference to tell a client about my commitment to my clients? I use that one. 11 years later they will still take a reference call for me if I ask.

In 2000 the European VP for BI of a major global software company complained to a man who was a mate of mine that ‘I can’t find good people’. My mate put my name forward. I was offered a contract without question. My mate is the #1 in the world in his specialty and his word is good enough as a reference. This was for my relocation to Ireland. We are still working together 10 years later. His comment is that he has never met a man who can cover so many bases as me. High praise indeed. In what he does? He is the #1 guy in Europe and pushing to be the #1 guy in the world. He’s in the top 3 and the other two will retired over coming years.

I have MANY people around the world who will say to a prospective client that I am ‘the ONLY man for the job’. It’s taken 30 years to get there.

Funnily enough. I tell young men that what they are well advised to do is to find a ‘master’ and ask to become his ‘apprentice’ for pretty much a peanuts wage. The opportunity to work with a master is a big one indeed. But most young men are chasing dollars now and not thinking into the future.

Example. A young man I met in Bucharest in 2003 was a ‘passable DBA’. Not brilliant but solid. He was 27. He worked for a 15 person consulting outfit in Bucharest. He worked his arse off and he constantly questioned me knowing that sitting next to me was the opportunity of a lifetime for him. That young man is now 34, has a little boy, and is a senior consultant at IBM working out of the London office. He is well on his way to becoming a master. Another 10-15 years and he will be very, very good at his job.

The punchline in that situation was that a woman was first allocated to work with me. She was told to ‘sit down and watch these videos’. I had prepared about 8 hours of video training for my ‘trainee’ for when I started a project so I didn’t have to do it again myself. She refused to watch it. She went off and talked to people. On the second day I called my client and told him to remove her and send me someone who would do as HE was told. Thursday this young man turned up.

It is not lost on his wife what was done for her and her child. When they were relocating to London I had the opportunity to take them to dinner and congratulate my friend on his remarkable achievement. She speak almost no English but had practiced for me “Thank you for what you did for my family”. It was a touching moment to know that I had contributed so much to this man, his wife and child.

I have helped MANY young men along the way. It is quite normal for a man who apprentices to me for 6 months to double his salary even when he is doing quite well already. A man I met on a project in 1995 was a VERY GOOD DBA. He was well known as a very solid DBA which is why he was on this project. It was a global banking BI system being developed by IBM and they had scouted the ‘good people’ for this project. I was given the lead role on the say so of the System Architect for the operational system who was a good mate of mine. His take was simple. “If you want this to work you will hire Peter and I won’t tolerate anyone else.” I really appreciated his faith in me.

A good DBA on those days made $A60/hour. Inside three years this same guy was charging A$1,000 per day out of his own company and not through a consulting house. He went on to build BI systems for some of the largest companies in Australia. He is now recognised as one of the very best in the country. Nice work if you can get it.

Of course. When I was new to my area I also sought out ‘masters’. The first one I met was a guy named Bill Inmon. I met him in 1993. Bill and I remain friendly all these years later. I have written to him many times how much he contributed to me. Whenever we are in the same place I catch up to say hello and thank you. I apprenticed to a guy who shall remain nameless in 1994. But to this day we remain good friends. I met him in 1993 and he was the #1 guy at a company called Metaphor. I am one of the ‘Metaphor Mafia’. Someone who was trained by Metaphor and knows the history of BI and how it all came about. In those days, the early 90s, I was blessed to work with some of the greatest masters there have ever been. And I have actively sought out masters in every area of my life all my life. It works.

This is one way young men can raise themselves to higher levels in business should they choose to do so. Work for yourself. No-one else. Seek out masters. Learn from them. Most are happy to teach but very few men bother to learn from them. Look how few men bother to read the book written through me.

Today you can put very, very valuable information in front of a young man and he will watch the simpsons instead. The refrain “under achiever and proud of it” comes to mind.

When I was young, 22, and first at IBM I hung a sign on my desk.

“To be average scares the hell out of me”

It is with great sadness that I see most young men are not only willing to be average. But they seem to thrive on the idea that they are under achievers. The simpsons worked.

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Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) May 30, 2011 at 01:32

Rebel May 29, 2011 at 21:03

Yes Rebel. This is how it is done.

My first BI project was at the 3rd largest life company in Australia. I worked there on and off for 5 years. This is where I ‘cut my teeth’ on BI. Our achievements were nothing less than astonishing. We MASSIVELY increased the profitability of the MLC.

In 1994 the second most successful business development program ever implemented brought in $A440M in funds under management. I have given my word not to talk about the most successful thing we ever did there.

The guy who came up with the idea was what is known as a ‘wild duck’. An ‘off the charts’ intelligent guy with little time for people who are not of his ilk. He was very young and very brilliant. He simply didn’t know that it was possible to fail politically. The director of marketing who had found him moved on and he was politically isolated from the new guy. The #2 did not get the expected promotion.

The #2 guy and the ‘wild duck’ were PISSED. So they went down the street to about the number 10 insurance company. It was about 100 meters down the road. They offered not only their services but promised they could bring most of the BI team from MLC across.

The effects were DEVASTATING on the MLC. It was so bad that inside 5 years it was sold off. This is a LIFE INSURANCE company where funds under management are EVERYTHING. This group were able to attack the marketplace and take clients based on the skills they had developed in the 5 years we were working at MLC. The biggest mistake MLC ever made was pissing off the guy who had been there for nigh on 20 years and had his eye on the director of marketing job. This mistake led pretty much to the irrelevancy of the #3 life company in Australia. So much for pissing off guys in the their late 40s and early 50s.

Another example? A friend of mine (who actually happens to be a woman) used to sell modems in 1996 when I met her. She sold Netcom modems. She had a bumper year. But she was a ‘modem seller’ in 1996. Don’t forget that.

Anyway. Netcom refused to pay her the appropriate commissions. She left and went to Banksia. She so gutted the Netcom business in Australia over the next 18 months that it went away. She was noticed by IBM and hired on to sell PCs in 1998. I told her this was a BIG mistake and she should not take the job. PCs were a ‘death knell’ to careers in IBM in the 90s and no-one had been able to make money out of them after about 95.

The next time I saw her was checking in at the airport to a business class flight in March 1999. I was on my way to ‘100% club’ in Hawaii for my company. She was on the way to ‘Golden Circle’ for IBM.

‘Golden Circle’ is the top 10% of IBM sales reps. She had sold $A100M in PCs the prior year (her FIRST YEAR in IBM). A feat SO ASTONISHING that my old friend Phil Bullock, who had become MD of IBM Australia, brought her on as his ‘executive assistant’ after only 18 months in the company. This had NEVER HAPPENED before to my certain knowledge. I haven’t seen or heard from her since that day we were checking in to go to respective clubs.

If men in the MRA actually pulled their heads out of their arses for long enough to smell the roses they would know that starting their own non-guvment registered associations and competing with these ‘women laden’ companies would be a good idea.

Given the amount of perks women are given and the lack of work they do running a Spartan men only association that is not required to pay for the ‘good help of guvment’ is going to DECIMATE the competition.

I’ve posted here recently that I have a colleague who can do corporate branding and web sites and is willing to service men only associations and only use men to perform this work and suggested men are well advised to do this. Yet men whine about what is happening rather than starting their own associations and going into business to take the clients away from women heavy companies.

Here’s a question guys. Apart from ‘guvments’ do you think companies give a toss about whether a VENDOR has enough women on board? Or do you think they give a toss about the cost benefit ratio?

The only reason the guvment does not have to worry about a cost benefit ration is they have guaranteed income. YOUR TAXES. Well? Stop paying them for all their ‘good help’. Let them collect taxes from all these ‘empowered women at the head of the table’, eh?

Guvments are UCC LEGAL ENTITIES. They offer you a service for ‘benefits’. If you choose not to contract with the guvment then you do not have to pay them for their very dubious ‘benefits’. If men would only learn THING ONE about UCC and LAW you would be a LOT better off.

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Robert K May 30, 2011 at 01:45

“Virtually no female is a job source. Women can only serve as mere functionaries in man-created structures.”

So true. Pretty much every woman I have ever met has been incapable of sustaining her own existance let alone create any opportunity for anyone else. Where I work, I create jobs for two women. I cannot think of a situation whereby a woman has created two jobs for anyone.

I personally don’t give a shit about the feminised workforce. Any feminised workforce is an inefficient workforce and will fail for that reason. Years ago, I worked in a government job in what was then, a government controlled industry. I put up with seeing idiotic woman after idiotic woman promoted ahead of myself and other men (who actually did all the work). Come 1996, a change of government saw my industry largely privatised and jobs outsourced. I was one of the first to be asked by a private employer to leave. Nearly fifteen years on and all the male government employees in my industry have left public service to take up lucrative positions in the private sector. Most of the women who were formally promoted ahead of me in the public service are still there because they cannot find outside employment (read: they are not good enough to get a real job). They are also stuck working for shit public service pay. The moral of the story is that the cream always rises to the top and shit sinks if you wait long enough.

Women don’t need affirmative action to get ahead in the world. They need to learn how to do a decent day’s work and actually be of value to their employers. I feel sorry for employers forced by legislation to employ members of the least effective and functional sex.

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Troll King May 30, 2011 at 02:07

OT

Damn, this woman stole sperm and had a child against her husbands wishes and is now being paid.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1392045/Man-ordered-pay-100-000-children-ex-wife-tricks-clinic-using-frozen-sperm.html

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James Atalaioff May 30, 2011 at 02:18

To get around this issue that is growing and feasting on the job market for men today, could be difficult to rearrange from only one area. The body that makes up the problem is unique. The personal damage done to someone originates from a technique that is applied to most parts of our society. The technique, has grown into what seems like an organism all by itself. It runs off of people, it runs off of minds. The organism fuels itself through different veins all throughout a very very neatly orchestrated web of social and physical peculiarity’s. I suppose that in the case of jobs being lost to women for ridiculous reasons, there has to be a cause and a reason for it all. These reasons could exist as parts of a whole. The whole is the aforementioned parasite or organism, which at this moment I’ve decided to call a “TitCrop”. A TitCrop, as I see it, is a business entity or an idea, that is built upon a gigantic field or crop of tits. These tits are renewable, re-fashionable, timeless and expendable. The branches in the system of this crop rely on ideas that come from a tit. In order to gain control over a certain aspect of a branch we need to change the set of ideas that create unwanted situations for us from the root up.
I don’t know much about employment, money sharing, economics or even hiring processes, but I feel that how these things all end up is determined by a set of ideas that were put in place. The ideas that were first set up have changed over the years, there isn’t much need to strain hard to observe that laws and rules and regulations have been changing or evolving over periods of years. The ideas or rules that send jobs to the gallows will sooner or later completely change or have to decay. If that’s true, then our interests should be invested into developing a rapid exchange of radical social and physical walls that include or exclude certain rules. These ideas need to be plunged into the vein where a set of rules needs re-working.
The outcome of the sudden difference in idea or mindset, should be almost indescribable or undetected and needs to not have an identity. I feel that without many personal traits, the idea would be effective as a plan to start to evening things out in a workplace, or other setting. To re-work an area, it would be best to find whatever fuels, inoculates or simply feeds a tit. From there the person close to the machine or language that feeds that tit, needs to feed it something else. I would like to think, that when the individual changes the food supply, a difference in personal gain could be attained. When several to hundreds of people start to do this it would eventually evolve into a newer network of rules. The idea behind it would be to have as much gain for the individual, and to the rest of the society while decreasing unnecessary elements of racial, sexual and other similar human characteristics that reside in the workplace Mind.
Perhaps it is our lack of interest in keeping a balance of social qualities, that threatens our work security. Things like the characteristics of gender roles, needing to be simplified. The values that the people had when the original rules were made here are falling prey to negligence. I believe that is because of the overall impact that the system has on people at a personal level. And when our attentions are distracted by the many branches of the titfarm, we let certain rules get changed without our knowing. This undetected inoculation is how i propose destroying and creating branches to our own liking.
After taking all of the things needed for this into consideration, we should simply tackle these tits in different ways, literally in this case.

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Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) May 30, 2011 at 02:31

OT.
Surprise surprise. Another woman finds out having kids is actually more rewarding than a ‘career’ in a soul-less corporation.

http://www.henrymakow.com/daughter_of_a_feminist_speaks_1.html

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Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) May 30, 2011 at 02:33

OT.
Yes. I know trial by jury rather than a satanic criminal judge is a pipe dream. Only trouble is there was just one of these in the UK. You men should read this.

It really is about time some of you actually learned the difference between LAW and legislation because I sure as hell am sick to death of trying to bang that difference into your stupid thick skulls. And if any man here feels ‘insulted’? It’s because you know I am right.

http://www.henrymakow.com/hill.html

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Avenger May 30, 2011 at 02:46

@Nolan
Then why is he so fond of making the Illuminati diablo hand signals. I guess he is a ‘texas long horns’ fan like the pope and Ahmedienerjadh is, eh?

And you really believe that even if there are some secret organisations that its members are going to advertise the fact like this? lol

He means you Avenger

How do you know I’m not one of them and am just here to spy on you? :)

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Avenger May 30, 2011 at 02:51

Nolan , our laws are the statutes just like the Romans and this common law was just a trasition that existed in the unstable dark ages.

And the UCC only exists in the US because there are States each with their own commerial laws and the UCC was neessarity to standardise commercial transations and make them uniform.

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Avenger May 30, 2011 at 03:39

Yes. I know trial by jury rather than a satanic criminal judge is a pipe dream

There are trials by jury all the time in both criminal and civil cases and juries may deide them any way they choose irrespective on any judge’s instrutions which they can simply ignore.

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Avenger May 30, 2011 at 03:46

Damn, this woman stole sperm and had a child against her husbands wishes and is now being paid.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1392045/Man-ordered-pay-100-000-children-ex-wife-tricks-clinic-using-frozen-sperm.html

Well, the man was stupid to do it. He should have substituted some bull sperm for his :)

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oddsock May 30, 2011 at 04:14

Avenger

“How do you know I’m not one of them and am just here to spy on you?”

Do you mean like one of those internet trolls that try to mislead people by giving some convincingly sounding bull to the unaware ?

By the way. How is that ficticious fiat US Dollar doing? You know? The one you was so keen to promote and said that it was backed by oil. LOL.

Avenger.
You make some very interesting posts/comments but you don’t half come out with some complete nonsense at times.

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Avenger May 30, 2011 at 04:47

By the way. How is that ficticious fiat US Dollar doing? You know?

I don’t know but since the pound and every other world currency is in the same boat it really doesn’t matter.

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gender foreigner May 30, 2011 at 05:00

Dear Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) May 30, 2011 at 01:32:

“Here’s a question guys. Apart from ‘guvments’ do you think companies give a toss about whether a VENDOR has enough women on board? Or do you think they give a toss about the cost benefit ratio?”

Since 1986, the Government of Canada (it’s similar within provincial jurisdiction) has FORCED corporations to hire incompetence/parasitic women and throw away productive men.

Yes, the companies do care…BY FORCE OF THE WOME’NS STATE. And I am suffering greatly by such state-sponsored employment violence by/of women against men.

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Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) May 30, 2011 at 05:14

OT…some abortion stats from the UK…

My body my choice….YOUR body? Nope.

These women say prostitution is ‘illegal’ but murdering viable babies is just fine. Hypocrisy much.

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oddsock May 30, 2011 at 05:14

Avenger

“By the way. How is that ficticious fiat US Dollar doing? You know?

I don’t know but since the pound and every other world currency is in the same boat it really doesn’t matter.”

I agree. My point being you that you, for whatever reason, tried to tell me and obviously others, that the US Dollar was not a Fiat currency. You see for someone to make a convincingly sounding post on precious metals, as you did, and even appear to look like you had some knowledge of financial matters to then go and drop such a huge bollock, I mean basic economics 101 would have informed you that the US Dollar is a Fiat currency. Just makes me quite suspicious of you.

You see mate, if I had dropped such a huge bollock I would have at least acknowledged I was wrong, even offered an apology. It’s IMHO what most men would do. Well I certainly would.

You have done neither and still try to cast needless doubt and confusion on quite a few other posts/suggestions made by men who are just trying to help others. For the most part you appear to talk a mean game but then you jump in the more helpful posts and as I said previously, you then try to cause confusion and doubt.

I still stand by my original view.

You are not who or what you wish others to think.

“By their actions you shall know them ”

Or in laymans terms. I can smell a bullshitter a thousand yards away.

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Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) May 30, 2011 at 05:17

gender foreigner May 30, 2011 at 05:00

The guvment can force companies to hire women because when your ‘REGIS-TER’ a company you are transferring ownership of the company to the guvment. Since it is THE GUVMENTS company and NOT YOURS they can tell you how to run THEIR company.

This is why, and I’ve said this plenty of times here, I recommend men create men only associations and LEAVE THE GUVMENT OUT of your association. THEN sell the services or products of the men in the association to all comers.

It is called ‘the right to freedom of association’ and you do NOT have this if you are a guvment slave. Your guvments wants to FORCE you into associations with women so that they can make you all ‘equally poor’.

Really. The brain deadness around here is stifling.

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Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) May 30, 2011 at 05:17
oddsock May 30, 2011 at 05:22

Really. The brain deadness around here is stifling.

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Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) May 30, 2011 at 05:17
Opps..forgot link.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1392023/Sex-City-generation-women-40s-sees-abortion-rate-soar-third.html

PAN

Sorry mate, just my sense of humour, The irony lol.

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Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) May 30, 2011 at 05:23

Avenger May 30, 2011 at 02:46
“And you really believe that even if there are some secret organisations that its members are going to advertise the fact like this? lol”

We have been over this avenger. The Illuminati WIDELY advertise their presence so that their faithful followers know who is really in charge. And can laugh at idiots like you who are in denial.

Take the pyramid with the all seeing eye. It is the symbol for m-eye-5, it’s on the US dollar bill, it was on madonnas back in ‘desperately seeking susan’, it’s on michael jacksons ‘thriller’ album, nicholas cages ‘National Treasure’ movie poster, the UNs United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights board that hangs in the UN Building, it’s in the Simpsons, the Truman Show movie.

In fact. If you go looking for the capless pyramid with an all seeing eye at the top you will find it pretty much EVERYWHERE you look.

So yes. They DO ADVERTISE their presence. They rely on YOUR STUPIDITY to remain in denial. And they would be right with you Avenger.

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Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) May 30, 2011 at 05:27

Avenger May 30, 2011 at 02:51
“Nolan , our laws are the statutes just like the Romans and this common law was just a trasition that existed in the unstable dark ages.

And the UCC only exists in the US because there are States each with their own commerial laws and the UCC was neessarity to standardise commercial transations and make them uniform.”

Wow…the brain deadness around here is stifling. You can’t get to the very first base of understanding the difference between LAW and LEGISLATION.

Tell you what? Just keep being stupid and ignorant? ok? I am done with men who are stupid and ignorance in this place.

“The stupidity of most men is only exceeded by their ignorance and their arrogance.” Me.

I mean you Avenger. There is no evidence legislation is law or that statute law is law. Just because you call something a LAW does not make it one.

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Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) May 30, 2011 at 05:30

oddsock May 30, 2011 at 05:22

And your humour is appreciated!! Baaaa, baaaa.

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Avenger May 30, 2011 at 05:31

Avenger.
You make some very interesting posts/comments but you don’t half come out with some complete nonsense at times

Joke. Because Nolan is paranoid. He’s had a bad disturbing experiene (it’s understandable) and he’s become obsessed with certain things and keeps posting the same thing that won’t really work and eventually he really will fo insane. What he needs is a good rest and to remove these things from his mind for awhile if only for his mental health. He needs to put this bad experience behind him, learn from his experience and be cautious in the future. I can assure you that his former wife isn’t obsessing and is just living her life without giving him much thought. Females are like children and forget quickly and move on to something else. Men have a tendency to brood and keep rehearsing things in their minds until they either become ill or kill themselves.

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Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) May 30, 2011 at 05:34

Avenger May 30, 2011 at 03:39
“There are trials by jury all the time in both criminal and civil cases and juries may deide them any way they choose irrespective on any judge’s instrutions which they can simply ignore.”

More stupidity from you Avenger.

Question. Who doe the judge and the lawyers in a ‘trial by jury’ court case serve?

Answer: They serve the LAW SOCIETY.

Question: Do the judges/magistrates and lawyers meet in secret and collude to determine the outcomes of trials by making sure what they jury does and does not hear.

Answer: Yes.

So you still think there are any reputable ‘trials by jury’ happening?

Brain dead. The judges/magistrates and lawyers work for the same society. How you imagine that can be ‘fair’ is beyond stupid.

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Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) May 30, 2011 at 05:50

Avenger May 30, 2011 at 05:31

And a little more stupidity from Avenger. If there is anything I WAS ‘obsessive’ with it was to educate men on how to claim their rights, exercise them, and defend them. That is done. The book is written. If men choose not to use it that is THEIR problem. I live free of all ‘guvment’ and all their legislation.

However, in the space of 3.5 years it has become clear to me that men LOVE their slavery and are NOT WORTH EDUCATING in the main. Men love ignorance JUST AS MUCH AS WOMEN DO.

SOME men, like trogdoor and a small group we now have in Australia who declared the common law courts into existence, ARE worth educating. About 1 in 1000. But the rest of you? You are fucking morons and you deserve your slavery and you are welcome to it. You refuse to choose to be a sovereign? Then you are choosing to be a slave by default.

“The stupidity of most men is only exceeded by their ignorance and arrogance.” Me.

I mean you Avenger. And every other man here who DEMANDS TO BE GUVERNED by a guvment that they KNOW is oppressing them.

How stupid can YOU men be? Is there ANY man here who does NOT know that the guvment is oppressing them? I mean look at this topic. It’s all about how men are being f***ed over in the workplace. Every man here knows it is GUVMENT POLICY ALL OVER THE WESTERN WORLD to shit on men in the workplace, right?

And what do you do? You BEG the criminals shitting on your to GUVERN you! LOL!! And even THEN you men can’t see the stupidity of your DEMAND to be GUVERNED.

Why DEMAND to be GUVERND when they have made it clear that they want to shit on you? That’s the height of stupidity.

But you men will go right on DEMANDING to be GUVERND.

“Oh please mr guvment, please don’t shit on me so much, please change the rules to be a bit fairer?”

Me? No. I don’t like the rules so I stopped playing the game. That I have done so openly since October 2009 and NOTHING has happened to me other than a hate site started by ASIO and the very much expected theft of my house? That I am free points out that I am correct.

I expected men in the MRA to EDUCATE THEMSELVES. I was wrong. My mistake. I spent HUNDREDS of hours offering FREE EDUCATION and men have shit on that offer.

Well? If you think the price of an education is high? Consider the price of ignorance. And pretty much every man here is ignorant of even the most basic distinction of LAW and LEGISLATION.

So I will, in future, charge for my services in this area the same I charge for my service in my consulting business. That most men can not afford me? What problem of mine is that?

You men LOVE YOUR STUPIDITY AND IGNORANCE.

You WALLOW IN IT.

You can’t even get over the fact that the british pound is a promisory note and you deny the evidence even when it is WRITTEN ON EVERY SINGLE NOTE. Do you have ANY IDEA how STUPID AND IGNORANT a man needs to be to be able to take out a bank note, ANY BANK NOTE, as see the words “promise to pay” and then DENY IT IS A PROMISSORY NOTE?

Like I said. The stupidity around here is stifling.

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oddsock May 30, 2011 at 05:53

PAN

Not that I am disputing the illuminaty concept. Can I just point out something for you and others regarding the “all seeing eye”

It is a masonic symbol and goes back centuries to when freemasonry was first formed. This is why we see can still see it carved into old buildings statues etc etc, it can even be found above the entrance to some churches, or carved into wooden pues/benches. Even of some very old grave stones have it. You see the principles that are taught in the three degrees of freemasonry are all about being good solid upstanding members of society.

The all seeing eye is very much a part of the lessons and can be seen displayed in all Lodges. It is to depict the all seeing eye of God the creator the grand architect of the universe the great geomatrician. The gist of it being, all our actions are seen by him/her/it. This is also why you can see it around such organisations as the UN etc.

I suggest it is not to indicate membership of some evil group and a lot more to do with freemasons leaving a reminder to all bretheren that all our actions, good or bad, are seen. I would even go so far as to say that there are probably a lot of people/groups that may well have tried to mislead others and confuse them regarding what the all seeing eye is suppose to represent. Misinformation is rife, especially on the internet.

Actually, a lot of the elite ( not all by any means) are masons and quite a few of these like to wind people up, especially the press by making silly meaningless signs knowing full well the people that suspect evil will jump on it and have a field day. They find it, I am sure, highly amusing.

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Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) May 30, 2011 at 05:56

oddsock May 30, 2011 at 05:53
“It is a masonic symbol and goes back centuries to when freemasonry was first formed. ”

If you go to a country called ‘Egypt’ you will find that there are some rather large pyramids that go back well past the masons.

Come on OddSock have you not read ANY of David Ickes books pointing out the symbolism that has been around since Babylonia times?

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Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) May 30, 2011 at 06:00

On the topic of ‘money’…the UK pounds and the Indian money BOTH have ‘promise to pay’ them.

I bet there is not a single man here who has read the 1882 bills of exchange act from the UK who knows what those three words really mean.

THAT is the level of ignorance in this place.

Go ahead. ONE MAN please type here the implications of what these words written on these notes really means.

Oddsock? OPus? You guys are in the UK. Can you explain what this means in accordance with the 1882 bills if exchange act? You’ve used these notes all your life. Surely you must know this? Right? ;-)

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Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) May 30, 2011 at 06:05

OT…..wow..the delusion is strong with this one.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1392225/Her-husbands-cheated–So-does-Jane-Fonda-know-wild-past-man-tipped-No-4.html

“Jane Fonda has seldom looked better. She was, at 73, quite a wow at the Cannes film festival this month, which she attended in a series of form-fitting gowns which showcased her sensational figure.”

This woman reporter has obviously not seen Barbarella or she is blatantly lying. I will go with blatantly lying. Jane Fonda was HOT in the soft porn Barbarella.

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AfOR May 30, 2011 at 06:05

lmfao, quoting icke as an authority on anything except self promotion… or perhaps except making el ron sound rational…

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oddsock May 30, 2011 at 06:13

Avenger

Avenger.
You make some very interesting posts/comments but you don’t half come out with some complete nonsense at times

“Joke. Because Nolan is paranoid. He’s had a bad disturbing experiene (it’s understandable) and he’s become obsessed with certain things and keeps posting the same thing that won’t really work and eventually he really will fo insane. What he needs is a good rest and to remove these things from his mind for awhile if only for his mental health. He needs to put this bad experience behind him, learn from his experience and be cautious in the future. I can assure you that his former wife isn’t obsessing and is just living her life without giving him much thought. Females are like children and forget quickly and move on to something else. Men have a tendency to brood and keep rehearsing things in their minds until they either become ill or kill themselves.”

Avenger.

There you go. You make a very interesting and excellent general observation. Albeit a little harsh for my taste but still a worthwhile and helpful post for men in general.

PAN.

Before you have a wobbly at me I do think Avenger makes some valid points. I don’t mean about you being paranoid. I mean about ex wives just simply not giving a monkeys toss and forgetting about us without so much as a bat of an eyelid. It was a bitter pill I also had to swallow and I suspect many of us were just as furious as yourself. I certainly was.

Now, when I look back, I kick myself over the lost years I spent focused on revenge/anger etc etc, all the while she was skipping along merrily with her life with not a care in the world.

Actually it was another woman that hit me with a large clue bat on this very topic. I was still complaining and moaning about my ex some years later.
This bint I was with said to me;

She probably can’t even remember your first name and you waste so much of your time and power chewing over every shitty thing she done.

The killer line for me; “She will just love the thought of you still being angry”.

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SingleDad May 30, 2011 at 06:34

@ Peter

Lol….this is the new “hot”. Whatever the femoborg says it is. Hot is not, open minded is biggoted, chaste is loose, elephantine is athletic, middle age is seeking children, hard working is collects fem-alimoney…lives on the dole.

The adoption of Newspeak by the Femborg is near complete. Even if I wanted a relationship, which I don’t, how could I even begin to have a conversation with one of the Femborg collective?

I don’t think this is an accident. The Femborg does not want to communicate with those that have not been assimilated. They will ignore us if we don’t pose a threat…otherwise they all simultaneously turn on the non-Femborg.

But who cares.

It seems the Femborg is making headway in assimalating Eastern Europe and Russia, what do you think Peter?

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oddsock May 30, 2011 at 06:40

AfOR

lmfao, quoting icke as an authority on anything except self promotion… or perhaps except making el ron sound rational…

Oddly enough. I find a lot of what David Icke speaks about to be revealing. I was very sceptical at first, still am in a lot of what he says. You see he is either a very very clever man or some sort of misinfo plant.

The parts that I identified with when I listened to some of his talks seemed to ring a bell. Especially when he talked about awakening and spirituality etc. BUT, then I realized something, it was quite spooky.

You see a lot of what he says on this topic can be found in the many Buddhist teachings along with a few other religious teachings e.g Hunduism. Therefore he is either very cleverly adapting many of these religious thoughts/lessons into his talks or he is coming up with them himself. I doubt it is the later. So I suspect he is cleverly manipulating existing info that people identify with and become drawn in. Thats how I first started to like what he was saying.

Thats my two pence worth.

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Opus May 30, 2011 at 06:43

As Nolan has linked to the article in The Daily Mail, I feel justified in commenting on the article thattells us that abortions of the over-forties are up in England last year by thirty percent.

My particular interest is that I know one of the said women in question. I feel it only right that Spearhead readers should have the benefit of my inside information. This is her story…

She is single, childless and (clearly) is desparate to have a child (and adores small children). No British Male being good enough for her, as she lives in CorporateCubicleLand she turned her back on British Men and went EPL. She however forgot to use contraceptives and became pregnant. There is no way however that she wants to live in the third world and be a Muslim wife. Worse still her EPL lover is in a high risk STD category. [You guys are supposed to fill in what I am not saying] So after ditching her lover she indulged herself with more natives in a two months orgy of sex, coming back here for an abortion at seventeen weeks. I don’t know whether to sympathise her predicament or be appalled – and she knows my views.

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oddsock May 30, 2011 at 07:00

Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c)

oddsock

“It is a masonic symbol and goes back centuries to when freemasonry was first formed. ”

If you go to a country called ‘Egypt’ you will find that there are some rather large pyramids that go back well past the masons.

Come on OddSock have you not read ANY of David Ickes books pointing out the symbolism that has been around since Babylonia times?

PAN

I dont mind edumacating you a little on this topic. You see, and you can find this info without my help, Freemasonry is taken from the stone masons that built the pyramids. Thats is why, if you ever become a mason ? You will find most if not all the lessons relate directly to the builders of the pyramids you mention. Using signs symbols tools and words used back then. Look up Hiram Mabiff the widows son. To every man a penny. I doubt very much you wil get the full and true version, even from the internet. The all seeing eye is even on the coinage.

I dont need to read any of David Ickes Books on where he thinks the signs and symbols come from. I know already.

As I have tried to point out, Freemasonry comes directly from King Solomons temple and the stone masons. That part is quite easy to discover.

The part most people like yourself don’t realize is that the signs symbols and secrets stem from the very same used by the master craftsman of that time. Think of it as the very first system of patent protection. It has nothing to do with evil or satanic worship. You are being lead a merry dance.

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SingleDad May 30, 2011 at 07:18

I am not a conspiracy theorist, except I’m sure my ex hates me and is planning my destruction, but I was watching the movie Amadeaus while plotting to increase my son’s interest in music, I conspired to gain his admittence to high school band, when I heard that Mozart was also a Freemason, and the interweb confirmed my darkest suspicious:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozart_and_Freemasonry

In the movie the Freemasons were banned in Vienna. Coincedence, I think not.

Could it be that free men where always viewed with suspicion as they are far less easily controlled than those whos bread and butter depended on cow-towing to the powers that be?

As Rebel said, echoing my father who is now passed, work for yourself, hide your activity, work less, make more, and unplug from the collective.

I’m going to be looking up the Freemasons, seems like a group of guys that know something.

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oddsock May 30, 2011 at 07:35

SingleDad

“I’m going to be looking up the Freemasons, seems like a group of guys that know something.”

Also why I find it a little ironic when some people talk about being a “Free” man. Sometimes the truth is right in fron of our eyes. So much so, we can’t see it. “Free” masons. Come on guys. Get with it. lol.

P.s. I also share a love of music. You will find that many great musicians and composers were masons. Most great men were also masons although not all will have revealed it. Its not compulsory. Many prefer to remain stum from fear of persecution.

Off the top of my head, how about Rabbi Burns the great Scottish poet ? Shakespere, anyone ?

P.s. Does anyone ever wonder why women are never allowed into freemasonry ?

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SingleDad May 30, 2011 at 07:42

@ oddscock

In just a few minutes I found that my university offers masters degrees in Freemasonary…seems like the conspiracy is the one to bury the Freemasons, I am starting a musical business and need contacts. There is a Masonic lodge right in the middle of the business district where I hope to gain clients.

Any contacts are good, I’ll be phoning that lodge.

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oddsock May 30, 2011 at 07:59

Singledad

“In just a few minutes I found that my university offers masters degrees in Freemasonary”

Just shows you how deperate some of these Uni/colleges are getting to fill the place and bring in money. Just think how many people would attend such a course hoping and believing they will find out things without actually becoming a mason ? I am quite sure it will be all about the history and conspiracy but very light on the actual signs and secrets. All it means is we will now have people who will try to claim they are an expert on freemasonry and telling actual masons they are wrong because they have a degree in it lol.

For the record, I also tried with little success in trying to get my son interested in music. Major fail. He only got as far as listening to gangster rap music and then stopped. Although he did make a couple of attempts at making up his own rap song.

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Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) May 30, 2011 at 08:04
Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) May 30, 2011 at 08:35

OT.
Gents. Try reading.

http://1215.org/lawnotes/lawnotes/common-law.htm

At his 1801 inaugural Thomas Jefferson said, “Sometimes it is said that man cannot be trusted with the government of himself. Can he, then, be trusted with the government of others? Or have we found angels in the form of kings to govern him? Let history answer this question.” And he wrote, “I know no safe depository of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves: and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion.” [Letter, September 28, 1820.]

The self-correcting temporary imperfections of common law were preferrable to the entrenched imperfections of legislated written laws. That is why they chose the common law as the law superior to statutes and all other forms law. They expressed that choice through the Constitution’s 7th Amendment which essentially says that no court may second-guess (review) a decision of a jury.

Also, notice that, although the common law is outside of the Constitution, the Constitution authorizes the USA to support the common law with its judicial power. See Article III, Section 2-1.

A statutory or constitutional court (whether it be an appellate or supreme court) may not second guess the judgment of a common law court of record. The Supreme Court of the USA acknowledges the common law as supreme: “The judgment of a court of record whose jurisdiction is final, is as conclusive on all the world as the judgment of this court would be. It is as conclusive on this court as it is on other courts. It puts an end to inquiry concerning the fact, by deciding it.” Ex parte Watkins, 3 Pet., at 202-203. [cited by SCHNECKLOTH v. BUSTAMONTE, 412 U.S. 218, 255 (1973)]

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SingleDad May 30, 2011 at 08:41

In studying Mozart, I am very interested in the seemingly very positive relationship his father Leopold had with Mozart. Unlike modern and very negative portrayals of the father son relationship, Leopold and Wolfgang seemed to have a very postive relationship, Leopold was not described as being overbearing, the opposite, he seemed to be supportive and collected and promoted Wolfgangs work and fame even after his death.

Wolfgang is univerally portrayed as having been devestated at the loss of his father. The true measure of love between father and son, IMO.

Mozart appears to have been decended from a family of masons:

“Mozart’s grandfather Johann Georg, a bookbinder, was raised among the extended Mozart family in Augsburg, in the house of Johann’s own grandfather David Mozart. David and his children were distinguished architects and master operative (craft) masons of the Augsburg guild (as contrasted to speculative freemasons).[15] But close affinities among operative and speculative existed in this period.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozart_and_Freemasonry

I type this while my son is playing Pacobels Canon on a electic piano set to harpsichord which he learned on his own last night from an instructional video he found on YouTube, kids today, very encouraging.

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Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) May 30, 2011 at 08:52

wow..just found this..

“If you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you.” — Benjamin Franklin

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SingleDad May 30, 2011 at 08:56

@ oddsock

I think Peter’s message is for Izzy, make sure to warn her.

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SingleDad May 30, 2011 at 08:59

@ Peter

So how does the change in the way the law regards cuckolded husbands figure into the rules regarding common law?

It appears to me to be a major change in the way we view parenthood to say that we now recogize that DNA is testable and very important in matters of determining fatherhood and also a revolutionary change in altering a centuries old common law used to extact large amounts of cash from men foolish enough to marry.

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greyghost May 30, 2011 at 09:01

OT
Question for Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) Does the Daily mail have a secret contract with MRA blogs to provide material? DAMN!

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Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) May 30, 2011 at 09:05

OT. And note this. This is very, very important.

http://1215.org/lawnotes/lawnotes/juryhdbk.htm

It should be abundantly clear from the foregoing that the best, most readily available and ultimately the only real legal protection against criminal activities of elected and/or appointed officials and against the ever-increasing usurpations of federal, state, and local government, lies in the Common Law or Magna Charta Jury as set in part herein.

The Constitution of the United States, and the Bill of Rights, is designed to hold the national government in check; to protect the individual citizen from an unchecked all-powerful government. However, those documents are not a safeguard to liberty should they not stand in the way of a government that has either the cunning to evade their requirements, or the power of force to overcome those who would attempt to defend their Constitutional rights against it. Consequently, if there exists no tribunal apart from, uncontrolled by, and above the government, with the power to nullify government’s unjust “laws” as fast as they can be written and entered in the statute books, then we are no longer free.

Such a tribunal does exist; the 12-man, 12-judge, Common Law Jury which was first accurately described in Magna Charta in the year 1215, and which was put into effect with all its powers by the people of the United States on March 4, 1789.

The honorable Theo. Parsons in the Massachusetts convention of 1788, answering the objection that the Constitution of the United States as submitted to the people for adoption, contained no Bill of Rights, said:

The people themselves have it in their power effectually to resist usurpation, without being driven to an appeal to arms. An act of usurpation is not obligatory; it is not law; and any man may be justified in his resistance. Let him be considered as a criminal by the general government, yet only his fellow citizens can convict him; they’re his jury, and if they pronounce him innocent, not all the powers of Congress can hurt him; and innocent they certainly will pronounce him if the supposed law he resisted was an act of usurpation. 2 Elliot’s Debates, 94; Bancroft, History of the Constitution, 267.

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Rebel May 30, 2011 at 09:22

I have read in some books that Freemasons were the revival of the Knights Templar. History channel seems to lean in that direction.

They invented the concept of banks and….. interest.

@PAN:The guvment can force companies to hire women because when your ‘REGIS-TER’ a company you are transferring ownership of the company to the guvment. Since it is THE GUVMENTS company and NOT YOURS they can tell you how to run THEIR company.”

I worked as a consultant for a local company. Their business was going well and they had to hire one more hand.
But according to govmt rules, they had to hire a woman or at least try and keep records.

Upon my recommendations, the company transferred the job from Montreal to Toronto before we began the hiring process. All interviews were made in Montreal.

All women interviewd declined. We found the man we were looking for.
After hiring the guy we wanted to hire, I recommended the company to transfer the job back to Montreal…and it was done.

… we had found a “workaround”.

Just in case the plan had not worked, we had a back-up plan: the job was “temporary” if we had had to hire a female and it was “permanent” if we had hired a male.
That, too, was a workaround.
It’s doublespeak in men’s favor.
Then we also had a “plan C”: the “job” was not really a job, but a very lose association, a per call basis. We knew that no woman would be interested in a job that offers no security at all. That was another workaround.

Once the hiring has been done, you can change the rules and there’s sweet fuck all the gubmin can do.
Creative thinking will always put you one step ahead.

Once you become fully aware that the gubmin is your deadliest enemy, you start thinking from a different point of view.

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Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) May 30, 2011 at 09:39

OT.
I had this audio pointed to me a while ago and just listened to the first hour. It’s pretty good. And it is specific to the US.

Those who wish to educate themselves? Have a listen. Those who want to remain ignorant. Scroll on by.

http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/australia/Forums/tabid/82/forumid/118/postid/462/scope/posts/Default.aspx#462

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Rebel May 30, 2011 at 09:45

They say the world is changing.

Take a look at this vid: it might change your perpective…

http://www.nextworldtv.com/videos/new-economy/the-crash-course.html

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Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) May 30, 2011 at 09:49

Rebel May 30, 2011 at 09:22
“Once you become fully aware that the gubmin is your deadliest enemy, you start thinking from a different point of view.”

The guvment is NOT your deadliest enemy. The guvment is EXACTLY like McDonalds. When you want a burger you can go there and BUY the SPECIFIC service. The guvment says “Would you like to run one of our REGIS-TERed companies?” If you say “Hey, that’s sounds like a good idea” then you step forward and buy the ‘company’ burger.

But if you say “Hhmmm. The cost of your burgers (company) is too high I think I will make my own association. (The burger king option)”

Then you can just ignore the guvment. Remember. There can be no company with a monopoly. And that includes the guvment.Most men simply do not know that the guvment is a company offering services that can be purchased on a per service basis.

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oddsock May 30, 2011 at 10:03

PAN

Thanks for posting this info. I have been aware of some of it from the lawful rebellion web site. It’s fascinating reading.

By the way guys, it is quite accurate. I am just not sure who or how many would have the bottle to test it out ? As I said above, there is a group here in the UK that are promoting this info wherever they can.

Interesting times.

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oddsock May 30, 2011 at 10:10

Oops, forgot to mention. The contract law aspect is also amazing. Who would have thought the police politicians and political parties even the UK has to be a PLC ( Ltd ) to do business ?

I admire that guy that has never paid income tax for years. Every time he gets a threatening letter from the Tax Office he returns it to same address with a note that he has not entered into any contract with them ha ha. It seems this has been going on for years and it looks like there is nothing they can do about it except keep sending more threatening letters?

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Love-the-Desert May 30, 2011 at 10:33

To Peter Nolan,

Your insane ramblings have ruined this place.

Why do people respond to your posts? Morons. This place would be SO much better if everybody just gave him thumbs down and hid his posts. They are fucking worthless gibberish. I always just scroll right past them.

Please, Peter, shut the hell up about common law garbage, we heard you the first fucking time. Enough already. Branch out, talking about something else. NOBODY GIVES A CRAP!.

I’ve been lurking here for a while, and I’ve watched how every thread he enters degenerates into some bullshit crap about “Common Law”, and he insults us for not “educating” ourselves about his common law shit that he pulls out of his delusion fat ass.

Here in America, you fuckwit PAN, your common law shit doesn’t even apply (I seriously doubt it applies in your home country), but that’s beside the point. You’re just completely insane, delusional, psychotic, stupid, and dumb.

The guy sounds like Jared Lee Loughner before he went crazy and shot a dozen people in Arizona.

PAN, I know that your a crazy fucking idiot, and you will refuse to educate yourself on this matter (being the slave you are to your defective brain), but you really should seek professional help. Just let go of the anger for heaven’s sake.

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Nemo May 30, 2011 at 10:36

More on the “reverse brain drain” out of the USA:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13595196

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Love-the-Desert May 30, 2011 at 10:36

I was hoping to come here and read a nice post about “Finding Work in the Context of the Woman’s Nation”, but once again it god derailed by PAN and a few people who’d rather talk about David Icke, NWO, the illuminati, and whatever else “Common Law” garbage that Peter has no fucking clue about.

It’s sad how much he and a few others have totally fucking ruined this place.

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Love-the-Desert May 30, 2011 at 10:41

Oh yeah, one more thing…

Peter, you come across as a self-promoting, pathological liar…

I mean, what haven’t you done? I guess you haven’t singlehandedly saved the queen from the Joker, but you’ve done everything else and you probably got the credentials to prove it. Of course, it’s all in your head, but…

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Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) May 30, 2011 at 10:53
Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) May 30, 2011 at 10:59

oddsock May 30, 2011 at 10:10

The UK was incorporated during WW II and was never recreated back into a sovereign nation. The UK, just the US and Australia, are UCC Legal entities. So when you understand this then you know how to deal with them. They have no authority to tax you against your will. And in the UK you only have promissory notes.

If the guvment gives you a bill for GBP20,000 in taxes and you give the guvment notes for promise to pay? Did you pay? No. Of course not. You PROMISED to pay with the promissory notes. Well? All men are equal before the law. So is not your promissory note the same value as the promissory note of the legal entity called ‘the bank of england’? Indeed? Is it not worth more?

Any of you guys in the UK who wish to remain ignorant? Just go ahead and pay your taxes and alimony and child support.

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Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) May 30, 2011 at 11:04

Oddsock…..Roger is the guy to talk to and this is the group to join.

Unlike http://www.tpuc.org Roger does not suffer manginas and does not bend just because a woman claims she is ‘unhappy’. On the TPUC forums I was banned for pointing out that you can have a ‘united community’ while 51% of the community are quite happy to commit crimes against the 49% ‘oppressors’.

If any men here from the UK want to go over to TPUC.org forums and point out that censorship is the first tool of tyranny and to use it on that site damages it’s credibility.

http://www.thebcgroup.org.uk/

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oddsock May 30, 2011 at 11:34

Love-the-Desert

Oooooo! Aren’t you a bundle of sunshine and sweetness ?

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Quartermain May 30, 2011 at 12:17

Off topic.

Here is another classic by Fred Reed.

http://fredoneverything.net/SexualFuture.shtml

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Rebel May 30, 2011 at 12:17

Love-the-Desert :

Sorry but this is not the place to find a job…

Log on to: Jobboom.com

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Keyster May 30, 2011 at 12:44

Get a load of this bit from This Week on ABC.

http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/video/roundtable-graduates-ceos-13713737

Savayia Singh – UC Berkley, Interdisciplinary Studies (i.e. Liberal Arts)
(Gratuitous mulit-culti. Indians are really in, because they’re almost like Muslims, without the Jihad baggage.)

Stuart Watkins – LSU, (student body president), Human Resources and Leadership Development
(Gay white male, not quite out, but still proud)

Lauren Kiel – Harvard, History and American literature
(Feminist and daddy’s little girl)

Malech Thomas – Howard University, Speech and Applied Communications
(Angry young black man, has to work twice as hard as the white man)

All recruited by ABC to participate in an almost painful effort to demonstrate diversity. All struggling to find work after graduating. And what does the “expert” panelist recommend?
“Get a degree in engineering. America needs more engineers!”

Poor Amanpour was almost vexed!

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Uncle Elmer May 30, 2011 at 12:53

Quartermain May 30, 2011 at 12:17

Off topic.

Here is another classic by Fred Reed.

http://fredoneverything.net/SexualFuture.shtml
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It’s not off-topic. It be exactly what I am sayin’. Worth posting here in its entirety. I like Fred.

A Polity of Castrati
Soprano Nation

May 30, 2011

“All of the world’s problems are products of the male ego,” said a swaggering bulldagger she-cop in Law and Order the other night. Average gringa. Actually, only some of the world’s problems, as for example wars, are products of the male ego.

Of course, a curmudgeonly male—though I don’t know any of these—might respond, “Woman, everything that keeps you and your sisters from squatting in caves and crushing lice is a product of the male brain.”

Which is true.

It is curious: Women seem to have no idea how profoundly they depend on men, and not just to fix thingy-whiches that make cars go. The pattern is that men invent and women use. Men invented cars, and women learned to drive them, usually without having the foggiest idea of how they work. Men also invented refrigerators, television, aircraft, hair-dryers, and tampons. Since women with few exceptions do not think technically unless they have to, they are unaware of the inordinate amount of inspired brainwork that led over millenia to computational fluid dynamics, band theory, the double helix, and TCP/IP.

We hear much triumphalism from women these days about the “male malaise,” the poor performance of boys in class, their depression and inattention in school, their declining presence in the universities. Why are these thing happening?

It is not that girls are doing better. They have always been dutiful, have pasted pictures neatly into projects, and have done their homework on time. Rather the boys have gone downhill. Why?

Much of it I think results from the relentless imposition of female values on all of society. Once, boys were boys and girls were girls. Now all must be girls, or nearly so.

This matters. Males value freedom over security; women, security over freedom. Men love venturing into the wild, whether in Silicon Valley or unexplored jungles, if any; women do not. Men are fiercely competitive; women, concerned with order and comity. Men are physical, enjoying, even needing, rough sports; women are not. To a man of my generation the country today is unbearably controlled, restricted, safe, and feminized.

This ought to be worrisome, even to women. When men are free, they prosper. Time and again, bright males drop out of college and found Google, Microsoft, Dell, Yahoo, FaceBook, Intel. They go at it with single-minded determination and not a whole lot of humility. This balls-to-the-wall ethos, wing it and see what happens, screw the PhD, eighteen-hour days of frantic programming on Jolt Cola and Cheetos, we’ll slit the competition’s throat with this new app—this is guy stuff. Men like these have made life comfortable enough that feminists have time to complain. Constantly.

The qualities that make life bearable for males have been squeezed out of society by angry women. In the schools, dodgeball is violence, and must be replaced by a cooperative game led by a caring adult. If a third-grader draws a soldier, he is led out of school in hand-cuffs. If he is bored to suicide by some witless gal from a “teacher’s college,” he is drugged. This compulsory niceness is sheer female passive-aggression against males. It works.

The anger of women is real, easily noticed in the frequent snotty remarks and the portrayal on television of men as boobs and louts. Yes, there are among women exceptions and degrees. The anger remains. Why?

I suspect that that the reason is the abrogation of the implicit no-compete clause that once existed between the sexes. In the past, boys were certain things and did certain things; girls were other things and did other things. The girls didn’t drag race against the boys, or think of challenging them at basketball. A girl would try to be valedictorian, but she saw herself as competing against other contenders, not the male sex.

Then came femlib. Women now explicitly saw themselves going head-to-head against men as a sex. It wasn’t a wise fight to pick. Women of ability went into all manner of fields and performed well, as doctors, dentists, editors, reporters, and so on. But it wasn’t enough. Since they were competing not as individuals but as a sex, it was crucial to them that women equal men arithmetically in everything. They couldn’t.

In sports it ws hopeless. If there is an Olympic sport other than perhaps nymphette gymnastics or synchronized swimming in which women best men, I am unaware of it. NASCAR would dearly love to have female drivers to encourage women to buy tickets,but it can’t find any who amount to anything; Formula One is worse.

Intellectually things were not so stark. Bright women abounded, and it was easy—thank god, think bright guys—to find women who were smarter than almost all men. Yet it remained that males outperformed females by a large margin on the SAT math section and by a lesser margin, but still a margin, on the verbal. The imbalance occurred on GREs, National Merit, and tests of IQ. Worse, at higher and higher ranges of intelligence, the men outnumbered the women by larger and larger amounts. This is settled science among psychometricians. It is also the glass ceiling. It was, further, the impetus behind affirmative action.

Affirmative action theoretically was intended to give the under-performing classes initial entry, after which they were expected, or said to be expected, to catch up. In fact it quickly became the equivalent of a golf handicap on the able.

Since affirmative action is patronage exchanged for votes, and unrelated to ability, we began to see female ambulance crew who, though perfectly good medically, could not carry stretchers. There were—are—female fire-persons who can neither carry the unconscious nor handle hoses.

Women had found that they could get by political means what they could not on their merits. While many women could compete at most levels on their ability, not enough could do it to produce the desired arithmetic equality. Ah, but women are the backbone of a consumerist society, the buyers, the shoppers. Thus television began pitching ads to women, and telling women what they seem to want to hear, namely that men are dull-witted slugs. Cop shows became populated by unsmiliing pistol-toting robo-dyke detectives who confused chronic PMS with manhood. While surveys show that women know less about politics than do men, they vote in larger numbers, and thus could demand special preference. Here we are.

It isn’t going to stop. The country daily becomes more authoritarian, watched, feminized, regulated, and pervaded by disguised hostility that seeks to avenge itself on others. Advancement today depends on race, creed, color, sex, and national origin instead of an ability and drive. In the schools boys will continue to be drugged, repressed, and made into puerile eunuchs.

The question becomes: Where is this leading? What does feminization accomplish? What can we expect of a nation run by and for women?

Fewer wars, just possibly. Declining international competitiveness as schools focus on therapy instead of integration of hyperbolic functions. Miserable little boys gagging down totalitarian niceness and Ritalin. Young men who see no point in going to fifth-rate universities rigged against them. And boredom. Oh god, the boredom.

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Uncle Elmer May 30, 2011 at 13:05

Keyster May 30, 2011 at 12:44

Get a load of this bit from This Week on ABC.

http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/video/roundtable-graduates-ceos-13713737

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It be exactly opposite what I am sayin’.

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Uncle Elmer May 30, 2011 at 13:10

Ahh Keyster, your link takes me to the news that Palin rides into town on a Harley. As a piece of cargo, with some chick actually driving. Kinda a like her gun-shootin’ media events.

My town is awash with Harley-riding females. Not to be confused with 30 million Vietnamese women on mopeds, a much more breathtaking sight. I have seen the Moped of God.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/palin-roars-washington-motorcycle-13717645

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oddsock May 30, 2011 at 13:27

This is one of the things that PAN is trying so hard to tell us.

I dare you to watch it. Actually its USA related but it applies in most first world countries. A real eye opener !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vXgUBxqBQI&feature=player_embedded#at=21

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Uncle Elmer May 30, 2011 at 13:31
Avenger May 30, 2011 at 13:33

So is not your promissory note the same value as the promissory note of the legal entity called ‘the bank of england’?

Well, actually I’d take the Bank of England’s promissory note before a worthless Nolan Note. At least I an trade it for some goods.

And stop repeating how you beat the system and didn’t pay alimony or child support. If they didn’t come after you it means that you’re so indigent that you had no money and so insane that if they arrested you you’d go straight to some psych hospital and it would ost them money. They probably figure that you’re just a harmless loony and you can be left at large. You claim that your former wife stole 100k Euros from you? She went to your bank and just withdrew the money? Or is it that you believe she ruined your business and in YOUR valuation it was worth that sum? “Intelletual” property is worth nothing unless you have a patent and someone wants to pay to use it. Every nerd “programmer” and inventor thinks his stuff is worth millions lol
If you don’t want to pay alimoney or child support then just disappear and get a new identity. In fact, you don’t even need a new identity. Go to Brazil, knock up some female and have a kid and you can’t be extradicted as a parent of a minor Brazilian citizen. Remember the last of the great train robberswho lived there openly for years and who only went back to England when he was dying?
Your so called advice is actually dangerous because some naive young man on here may take it and then end up in prison and once that happens these things tend to snowball and he may be in for a life of legal problems and poverty.

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Avenger May 30, 2011 at 13:56

Avenger.

There you go. You make a very interesting and excellent general observation. Albeit a little harsh for my taste but still a worthwhile and helpful post for men in general.

Well sometimes people have to be hit with the harsh realities of their situation. Medicine is harsh on your body but sometimes you need it to prevent death. You will get over the side effects but without it you’ll die.

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Avenger May 30, 2011 at 13:59

And btw, Nolan used to post under another name until everyone got sick of him and kept voting him down. He came back after a while with this new ID.

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Hayden May 30, 2011 at 14:15

I have to agree with love-the-desert about PAN hijacking nearly every post with the same crazy rant. As to American jurisprudence, you have it completely backwards. Constitutional law is controling. Then, statutory law would be controling, and only in the absence of that authority would common law control. However, I don’t get the impression that you understand the term “common law.” I am not writing this to demean or attack you, but your statements are consistently inaccurate on this matter and may confuse other guys here who are not educated on the law resulting in them getting in trouble.

Also, I am a Master Mason and member of the Ruston, LA lodge. It usually ignore comments about masonic conspiracies because they are nonsense, but on a men’s site like this your comments are counterproductive and dangerous. I will leave it at that.

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Avenger May 30, 2011 at 14:18

Come on OddSock have you not read ANY of David Ickes books pointing out the symbolism that has been around since Babylonia times?

What’s your point? That people tend to copy things from other people?

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oddsock May 30, 2011 at 14:19

Avenger

I am quite new to this site so I know nothing of any previous history.

I can’t say much about his own website nor his drive for some sort of revenge on his ex but I do find a few of the things he posts quite interesting simply because it was something I had heard about a while back and there is certainly an increased interest in all this stuff about Common Law/Magna Carta.

Having said that. I do also have some empathy for PAN as I know how easy it is for the anger and outrage at being so badly treated can overtake our lives.

I am quite sure that if I had not found the angryharry website all those years ago I would have been a basket case. Doesn’t help much when you are already slightly unhinged to start with lol.

I blame Monty Python and Spike Milegan for that head start !

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oddsock May 30, 2011 at 14:33

Avenger

“Come on OddSock have you not read ANY of David Ickes books pointing out the symbolism that has been around since Babylonia times?

What’s your point? That people tend to copy things from other people?”

I assume you are asking PAN ? But let me clarify. I was trying to explain to him that the all seeing eye is a main symbol in Freemasonry and not something that represents evil or Satanic worship etc, and had been used for centuries. He ( PAN ) directed me towards the pyramids in Egypt to let me know the all seeing eye symbol could also be found in the pyramids/tombs etc and was therefore in use long before Freemasons started to use it. As per David Ickes Books.

What he was obviously unaware of and as I informed him. The pyramids and the Stone Masons is exactly where or what todays Freemasonry stems from. You see, this is the danger of small amounts of info and books on the topic. It is so misleading and results in many people trying to tell others they know things for a fact, when they don’t

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Hayden May 30, 2011 at 14:34

I want to add something here to make a positive link between my last post and the article about employment game. A few decades ago there were a great number of fraternal organizations that men were active in, and it gave men the oppotunity to enjoy the company of other men at there best instead of just getting drunk togethet at a game or cookout. You learned to trust, look out for, and trade with those brothers without female interferance. Maybe, that type of interaction with good like-minded men would lead to employment opportunities. It certainly would not hurt.

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Uncle Elmer May 30, 2011 at 15:08

Hayden, I have broached that subject before here, usually making a reference to Laurel and Hardy’s Sons of the Desert, one of the funniest films ever made.

In my youth I laughed at men’s fraternal organizations but now I see some value in them. As a man ages his friends die off or lose touch. In part II I will discuss the need for older men to to expand their circle of friends by engaging in activities where he might meet other men.

I was at a map and surveying store recently looking for a topographic map for a place I wanted to go camping. Several fellows in there about real estate or placer gold deposits and other matters; in other words, interesting pursuits outside my regular activities.

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gender foreigner May 30, 2011 at 17:07

Dear oddsock May 30, 2011 at 07:35:

“P.s. Does anyone ever wonder why women are never allowed into freemasonry ?”

I haven’t done my homework on the question per se, but I suspect that origin of the exclusion is founded on the fact that CONSTRUCTION IS A DEATH INDUSTRY. As such, women would excluded themselves as per their commitment to themselves.

Furthermore, as construction and design require competent mathematics, women’s inability in this area would make them unsuited.

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Avenger May 30, 2011 at 17:13

I admire that guy that has never paid income tax for years

Obviously it’s such a tiny amount that they don’t even think it’s worth going after him. He may even be unemployed and has no inome and those notices are for taxes that are from the past. And apparently he has no assets or bank acounts or a judge would just sign an order instructing the marshall’s to take what he owes from his acount.

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SingleDad May 30, 2011 at 17:13

It is clear to me that feminists are outlawing male associations and forming all female associations.

Google:

Women’s association of business: 233,000 hits.
Men’s association of business: 141,000 hit’s.

How many successful lawsuits against female only associations? None that I know of.

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SingleDad May 30, 2011 at 17:15

My father didn’t pay income taxes, nothing illegal, he was a sole proprietor corp and worked hard at hiding income. Many people do this. They then qualify for free government health care and need based scholarships for their kids. The just don’t advertise the fact.

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oddsock May 30, 2011 at 17:28

“Avenger

I admire that guy that has never paid income tax for years

Obviously it’s such a tiny amount that they don’t even think it’s worth going after him. He may even be unemployed and has no inome and those notices are for taxes that are from the past. And apparently he has no assets or bank acounts or a judge would just sign an order instructing the marshall’s to take what he owes from his acount.”

Afraid not. He is a self employed carpenter earning good money it seems. I think it has a lot to do with him claiming he is a human being not the name on his birth certificate. I don’t fully “understand” the process but he does seem to have figured out the legal terms etc. I will see if I can find the video of one of his talks. It’s quite interesting if nothing else.

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gender foreigner May 30, 2011 at 17:49

Dear andybob May 29, 2011 at 07:31:

Thanks for your humanity, time, thought, etc.: I appreciate them very much. I was so hurt as I wrote the first response (to which you responded) that I didn’t even really notice your piece substantially. It’s in this reading, contextually long after your response that it sunk in.

Thanks very much, brother, really, thank YOU, my fellow.

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Avenger May 30, 2011 at 17:49

Dad, it is perfectly legal to have all male private clubs. However, the US Supreme court ruled that the membership must be under 600 or that it was then really a public club and should be open to everyone. Of course, 600 members is just some arbitrary number they came up with and is too low. The clubs that the females wanted to join were large national clubs with hundreds of thousands of members so I can see how these clubs are really not private

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Avenger May 30, 2011 at 17:52
SingleDad May 30, 2011 at 17:57

@ Avenger

Did you just say sompin about my father?

If you want to see what I mean, just go down to any free hospital and count the Mercedes in the parking lot.

Hint, the doctors are driving Hondas.

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oddsock May 30, 2011 at 18:28

Here you go Avenger.

A break down of the Common Law etc. The guy talking is John Harris, the very same guy I mentioned previously that has paid no income tax.

Fascinating stuff

You can see the complete series here.

http://bbc5.tv/eyeplayer/video/john-harris-its-illusion

Enjoy !

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AlainPlus May 30, 2011 at 19:21

SingleDad,

Hmm.. I just graduated with an Associate’s in Nursing. Since you offered, I’m gladly soliciting any advice you may have to offer on the matter.

I’m a young single male, so I’m very flexible in terms of geographical relocation and shifts. I’m currently located in the North East. One of my hopes would be to find out which hospitals/areas are hiring new graduates so I can just apply there, get hired, and begin the ascent.

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Me May 30, 2011 at 20:27

Thanks, Uncle Elmer.

I forgot to mention that she is very, very status oriented, and, under any circumstances, cannot NOT know something. Or, if she’s hemmed in, has decided that she doesn’t need to know about it and neither does anyone else.

Ever notice how when the media misses a story they don’t report on it for two days and then when they do, the outlet reports it as though they’d already covered the event. This is every conversation with her. She jumps in and cuts you off to make it seem as though she already knows about it, even when it’s clear that she’s just making stuff up.

Anyway, I just had my first job interview today.

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Avenger May 30, 2011 at 20:45

Dad, what’s a free hospital? I was a doctor and I never heard of a free hospital. There are hospitals and a few doctors that accept medicaid but that still has to be paid by the state. Few doctors will accept it because they are only paid like 1/5 what they would ordinarily charge and would have to treat patients on an assembly line basis to survive.You see this in the lower class blue collar areas places where no one driving a Mercedes would even go just to save a $100 fee. There are a high % of community hospitals in the US (it’s not always in the name of the hospital) where they will treat uninsured patients on a sliding scale or for free if their income is low enough. In fact, my hospital is a ommunity hospital and is very nice but since it’s in a very good area everyone has insurance and it’s not being drained of resources by illegals so if they treat a few people free it doesn’t matter but the hospitals located in cities and poorer areas are pretty much being drained by illegals and medicaid patients.
And people who drive $100k Mercedes should either buy their own insurance or just pay the bill.

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Avenger May 30, 2011 at 20:59

Alain, you’re going to need a lot more than an associate’s to qualify as an RN.

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andybob May 30, 2011 at 21:04

Dear Gender Foreigner,

No worries mate. Glad to see you’re feeling better. Keep up the good fight!

Andybob

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Hayden May 30, 2011 at 22:15

Avenger,
You are incorrect about the educational requirements to take the NCLEX and become an RN. In the US, A.D.N. educated nurses are the bulk of RNs. Given, an associates degree in nursing is not the average assoc degree that you knock out in 4 yrs due to the order of prerequisites, but it is still an A.D. I add this info to clarify because nursing is a great career path for young men. I am discouraged by the number of guys here who are attempting to speak authoritatively on subjects outside there knowledge base. Type up the old wikipedia before you piss in some young man’s wheaties in a condescending manner.

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Hayden May 30, 2011 at 22:18

Typo to my last post: I meant A.D. that you knock out in 2 years.

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Avenger May 30, 2011 at 22:21

@oddsock-as they say ” a little learning is a dangerous thing”

He is really just misunderstanding a lot of concepts. He reminds me of Nolan who thinks that a Court Order is the same as an order you put in at McDonalds for a McBurger lol
And why don’t you ask a real scholar in law and history to explain these things to you? You really believe that some carpenter with a bad accent on the internet knows more? He’s simply twisting things in a very convoluted way beause he has an axe to griond or perhaps he’s just very unsophisticated about how things operate.
And even if a country was a corporation then who are the shareholders? If it’s just a corp. being run for the benefit of its limited shareholders then why would they use its profits to pay citizens benefits, build roads, and all of the other money they spend? The Microsoft Corp. doesn’t do this. And what’s this nonsense about using Mr.? You can call yourself anything you choose, that’s simply your identity and you can change it as long as you’re not doing it for some fraudulent purpose.You need an identity to prove who you are and ownership of property.
The real problem is not whether someone is called a policeman or a police officer but the police state. Cops aggressively enforce statutes to justify their existence and mostly to bring in revenue to pay for their salaries and pensions and buy a lot of new cop equipment. Cut their budgets ofr police and put people like Ron Paul into office and the problem will fade away;and aggressively sue cops, cities etc. so they can’t afford to abuse citizens.Then work on removing all unconstitutional laws from the books.

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Avenger May 30, 2011 at 22:27

Hayden-dotors and nurses are licensed by the State and I don’t know the exact requirements for each state but I know that RN’s always have at least a BS degree. You’re also going to have a hard time as a male even being in nursing.

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SingleDad May 30, 2011 at 22:37

@ Alan

My understanding is that nursing is very much open and hiring across the country. Like in any other field where there are more people there are more opportunities. I work in the second largest city in the country for this reason.

I think harder is handling the hostile work environment men find themselves in when doing nursing. I’m not sure if women are trying to exclude men or if they are just as nasty to each other.

In my experience nurses are far more nasty to each other and I always thought it was due to the heavy population of small minded women. The back biting is intense and I have a few friends I regularly council on how to cope.

The best advice I give is what I call the profile curve. When you work in health care you the job is great compared to what most men are describing here. I would encourage all guys to go into nursing. The field will continue to grow exponentially as the baby boomers age. Nurses will take over more and more of the territory doctors now inhabit. This is inevitable.

The profile curve is something health care professionals at a major med school invented and passed on to me by word of mouth. It works like this. Draw a graph and place your good nurse or worker status on the Y axis and your profile on the X axis. As your profile goes up, your good nurse status goes down. The curve is highest on the Y axis at O on the X axis and rises to infinity at 0 X. At infinite X the Y position drops down to be close to 0 at the largest value of X on the axis.

What this means is that the more they see you the more they hate you. This only works for very long term employement when, after years of seeing your face they hate you.

This worked so well for me that I now nearly never come out of my office and I am liked by all management, co-workers and am currently successfully completing projects that require the participation of multi-hospital groups. This kind of concensus is difficult to achieve. How do I do it…..low profile. And yes, I’m dead serious. The more they see me, the more they hate me. And it’s not just me…lol.

I hope that helps. And I can’t emphasize more that nursing is a fantastic profession and men should storm that bastille.

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SingleDad May 30, 2011 at 22:43

@ Avenger

You are clearly being intentionally dense. I will not participate.

For others, if you run out of money the law says the government must provide health care, it must be equivolent to the community standard. The bull you hear about lack of health care is propaganda. The people that can’t get care are the working poor. They aren’t poor enough to qualify for the free hospital, usually city and county hospitals, but are too poor to qualify for private hospitals. They can afford it but it would be hard. The government is trying to get their votes and thats what Obama care is, payolla for votes. Nothing wrong with it, and I have no opinion, just remember, you don’t have to do without health care, you might be improverished but you get your chemotherapy, even illegal aliens.

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Avenger May 30, 2011 at 22:56

Dad, I realise that at your age you may have short term memory loss but your original comment was about people driving Mercedes who were getting free care not about poor people at the free clinic.
In fact, in my comment I mentioned how poor people could get free care buit if you’re driving a $100k Mercedes (which means you’re probably earning $300k) then you should be able to afford your own insurance.
Then you made the comment;
Hint, the doctors are driving Hondas

I have no idea what you mean. Are you saying that the crooks who are driving the Mercedes and apparently hiding their income to get free care are smart?

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Avenger May 30, 2011 at 23:02

The bull you hear about lack of health care is propaganda. The people that can’t get care are the working poor.

But even that’s not true because there are community hospitals, clinics etc that provide free care if you’re under the income limits which are not even that low. And in many places even if the parents don’t qualify for medicaid their children do. And btw, most of the drug companies provide free drugs for the poor.Just send in a prescription and application and they send you the drugs.

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SingleDad May 30, 2011 at 23:08

@ Avenger

Admit your wrong and your error could have mislead alot of people here who are men who are out of work and may need emergency health care to not realize it exists and that what your said is dangerous.

As a person who claims to have been a doctor you should hang your head in shame and realize the Oath says do no harm. Misinformation is harm.

And since you will never admit a thing, please return to not addressing me.

Thanks for proving as many hear have said that if your are not female, you prove men can be just as bad.

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SingleDad May 30, 2011 at 23:10

@ Alan

Avenger is exactly the kind of imbecile you will have to tolerate as a nurse.

If you can handle that, and I certainly can, don’t worry, the bull dyke head of nursing has a loud bark and no bite, just like someone we know.

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Avenger May 31, 2011 at 00:17

Admit your wrong and your error could have mislead alot of people here who are men who are out of work and may need emergency health care to not realize it exists and that what your said is dangerous.

I actually said that it was available so I have no idea what you’re babbling about.Perhaps you should stop drinking and go to bed.

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Lee Raconteur May 31, 2011 at 02:01

The Problem with all Game is that it becomes ineffective over time, but alters the social environment for the worse. PUA’s are complaining that it is becoming less effective, or not worth it, in the USA and West. Then they travel to other nations, where it works.

For a while.

Then the society adjusts and they have only fucked up another country just as they have fucked up the USSA.

The exact same thing will happen as their Gaming behavior will fuck up the USSA employment scene even worse than it is now in 2011.

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oddsock May 31, 2011 at 02:19

Ha ha Hey Avenger.

Looks like a few other people can also see a lot of what you say just does not add up. In general, it sounds good but a lot of it is just nonsense.

My instincts are almost always correct. I say you are a female probably a dyke. Failing that, a disinfo troll.

Did I see somewhere on here that you said you was a Doctor ? In what exactly ? Female studies ? lol

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oddsock May 31, 2011 at 02:28

Gender Foreigner

Chin up mate. All is not lost. It just simply means life want’s to take you in another direction. Enjoy the ride and go with the flow.

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Hayden May 31, 2011 at 03:44

Avenger,
I am beginning to think that you are attempting to intentionally confuse Spearhead readers in the US that may wisely consider a career in nursing. The fact that you made your comment about RNs needing a BS while sitting at a computer where you can easily google “associates degree RN programs” actually makes me angry. Why would you do that?

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Avenger May 31, 2011 at 06:14

@ Nolan-as I said before, you may want to read the entire opinions or decisions and not just pluck one little piece out because you’re really not understanding what you’re citing in its totality.

Ex parte Watkins, 3 Pet., at 202-203- is an ex parte petition from Watkins dating from 1830
http://supreme.justia.com/us/28/193/case.html

Used as part of an argument in the SCHNECKLOTH v. BUSTAMONTE, 412 U.S. 218, 255 (1973)] case.

http://supreme.justia.com/us/412/218/case.html

And Article III of the US Constitution is here:

http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A3Sec2.html

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Uncle Elmer May 31, 2011 at 06:45

“I hope that helps. And I can’t emphasize more that nursing is a fantastic profession and men should storm that bastille.”

Most excellent post SingleDad, thanks for sharing your insight.

I have often wondered about private doctors, male or female, who spend years in undergrad, med school, internship, residency, then have to put up with catty, territorial nurses and their continual soap operas. Must cause them a lot of stress on top of seeing 50 patients a day. Just basing the observation on the insolent behavior of some nurses when I come in to get a wart removed or something. But not all nurses are like that. A few have been very professional and supportive, which is what you expect when you make an appointment.

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Uncle Elmer May 31, 2011 at 06:59

“The Problem with all Game is that it becomes ineffective over time, but alters the social environment for the worse…..

The exact same thing will happen as their Gaming behavior will fuck up the USSA employment scene even worse than it is now in 2011.”

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Lee, I am presenting timeless methods that work across all industries. The primary idea is to create your own marketing process and avoid the standard job application interface which these days is specifically designed to exclude men.

Merely being aware of that will cause men to invent work-arounds. Moving away from falsehood mean moving towards the truth. You are advising that men continue to accept the falsehoods and keep banging their heads into the wall with the predictable results.

If Employment Game really swept the country employers would find that their standard methods are not providing capable employees, and they would have to recruit from the pool of savvy gamers. That is not going to happen anytime soon. Most people will not do what I am suggesting as it involves a fair degree of risk and uncertainty. Not to mention disregard for the rules that they have been programmed since grade school to obey.They prefer to take the comfortable route of living the lies that others have concocted. When it fails they follow the script of self-condemnation and downward spiral.

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Uncle Elmer May 31, 2011 at 07:11

Me May 30, 2011 at 20:27

Thanks, Uncle Elmer.

Ever notice how when the media misses a story they don’t report on it for two days and then when they do, the outlet reports it as though they’d already covered the event. This is every conversation with her. She jumps in and cuts you off to make it seem as though she already knows about it, even when it’s clear that she’s just making stuff up.

Anyway, I just had my first job interview today.

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You are welcome, Grasshopper.

I have encountered this woman, many times she is a male. You are better than this.

You are taking the right path by leaving. Keep it professional, walk out like a pro. Keep marketing yourself and replenishing your contact network throughout your working life.

When pressed for feedback, cool understatement is sweet : “The climate here is just not very professional.”

Calling someone an amateur is the worst insult you can make. However, maybe the best response is “I found a better job making more money”.

But when She-Bitch starts asking for details don’t give her squat. When she see you calmly talking privately to some manager her fuses will start to pop. Imply that you have said nice, positive things about everyone. It drives them nuts.

After you leave you will hear how they gnawed each other to death or she filed a sex-harassment suit.

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SingleDad May 31, 2011 at 08:40

@ Elmer

One of the ways I handle the immense feminization of medicine is to come here, where some small degree of sanity can be found in a gradually increasingly insane world.

Thanks again for the post.

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MobilePT May 31, 2011 at 11:48

Alain-

If it were me with a recent nursing degree, I’d probably look to freelance (rather than full-time at a hospital) if I chose to live in an urban area and to do air rescue/emergency room type work if you prefer living in a more rural area (with fewer hospitals to freelance at). In the rescue/emergency line of work there are some things many women just can’t or won’t do, like lift victims.

In-home care might be another option (working for an established enterprise at first). The field seems to be growing (esp. w/ injection/IV cert.) and while most of the companies are run by women, there may be $ignificant opportunities for men like you if you can stay above the cat fights. The turnover in these outfits is staggering, so there are often job openings.

The most important bit of advice I have is DO NOT GET MARRIED.

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Firepower May 31, 2011 at 11:49

gender foreigner

I am so discouraged/victimized by the parasitic, dummying-down feminine right to harm the male race. My whole life story surrounds my having been victimized by Women’s Affirmative Action against men starting in 1986.

Got to agree.

It’s especially poignant post-Memorial Day, where thousands of men die and are maimed for a State-sanctioned PC screwing of men by all of Liberalism’s preferred-treatment pitchfork voting bloc of minorities, gays and women.

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van Rooinek May 31, 2011 at 13:26

“…Old white guys are the scourge of major employers right now. They want youth, diversity and women…”

And we have the SKILLS… bwahaha

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Lee Raconteur May 31, 2011 at 13:26

Lee, I am presenting timeless methods that work across all industries. The primary idea is to create your own marketing process and avoid the standard job application interface which these days is specifically designed to exclude men.

Merely being aware of that will cause men to invent work-arounds.

Nothing is timeless, all systems are dynamic, and institutions and people adjust.

If you enable a tactic, the market adapts, comparative advantage vanishes, and you are back at square one. This is why teaching many others to do something ends up backfiring in the end. Look at the diminishing returns on Game in the USA.

If I were to experience a bout of insanity and return to the USA to a position like my former one, the very first people I would roundfile would be the ones using the innovative marketing techniques. And the NLP’ers, gamers, sets, techniques, arggh.

You have no idea how stupid that stuff sounds on the phone.
You should look at a large sample of example resumes, emails and applications. Horrifying. I estimate no more than 5% of people are literate, let alone competent.

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Lee Raconteur May 31, 2011 at 13:31

If Employment Game really swept the country employers would find that their standard methods are not providing capable employees, and they would have to recruit from the pool of savvy gamers.

On what do you base this assumption? Do you actually think no one is able to figure out when someone is a Gamer and they are running Game? Do you believe it is some sort of magic code no one can spot?

Do you actually think Game is invincible?

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Lee Raconteur May 31, 2011 at 13:39

“developing your sales persona.”

Some advice. Don’t develop a persona. So easy to spot.

Save me money, save me time, or get off the phone in 15 seconds.

It’s really simple, not easy.

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gender foreigner May 31, 2011 at 16:01

Dear Firepower May 31, 2011 at 11:49:

Thank you for your words.

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Uncle Elmer May 31, 2011 at 18:08

“developing your sales persona.”

Some advice. Don’t develop a persona. So easy to spot.

Save me money, save me time, or get off the phone in 15 seconds.

It’s really simple, not easy.

——–

Exactly my point. It’s simple but not easy. You have to put time into your marketing or you will come off as an amateur. And if you don’t develop a persona and narrative for your skills and experience you will fall flat on your face. A consultant has to do it or he doesn’t eat.

You are confusing my method with sales gimickry. This is about creating a long term marketing process for your skills and industry and working it continually. Also known as “Rainmaking”.

Share your work search success tips with us Lee. Tell us how it’s done.

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Hayden May 31, 2011 at 19:08

Avenger,
I will now admit that your misinformation regarding the educational path to becoming an RN has made me angry. I left law practice to attend nursing school, and I have twelve more credit hours to complete an Associates Degree in Nursing, after which I will take the NCLEX-RN.

Here is supporting information from one of the first sites that come up on google to prove my point, which you could have checked. From the Federal Bureau of Labor Statistics (bls.gov), one can learn that “the three typical educational paths to registered nursing are a bachelor’s degree, an associate degree, and a diploma from an approved nursing program; advanced practice nurses—clinical nurse specialists, nurse anesthetists, nurse-midwives, and nurse practitioners—need a master’s degree.”

Why would you argue and misinform the readers of the Spearhead? Your statements on this topic are puzzling. Nursing is a career field that men, who want a solid blue-collar lifestyle can enter fairly quickly, and they will find a job.

As SingleDad states, it is hard to work around female nurses, but there are a great many jobs for a smart male nurse with a strong back. Nursing is a very unusual mixture of mental and physical labor, and men naturally possess the tools for the tasks. Again, why do you stick to a position so easily disproven? A BSN is great, but it is not the only key to the door of licensure. Hell, even becoming an LPN or LVN and then bridging to an RN might be just the ticket for some of the MRA trying to start over in life.

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Lee Raconteur June 1, 2011 at 02:09

Tell us how it’s done.

Be a natural born, gifted, salesman.
Provide a service or product to your customers or clients.
Bust your ass, work too many hours (60++. Saturday half days should be the norm for you, as well as 12 hour weekdays) and sacrifice your health, family and anything approaching a ‘work/life balance’.
Focus relentlessly upon your goal.
Kill your nice guy.
Learn to lie.
Learn to break the law and not get caught.
Learn how to be a criminal.
Learn how to get people to do things they don’t want to do.
Be extremely morally flexible.
Be Lucky.

” Honore de Balzac: Behind every great fortune there is a crime. ”

This is NOT glib. All successful/rich people figure out an ‘angle’ or work around that gives them an advantage. They exploit it, use it, make a lot of money, then upon success they IMMEDIATELY pull the ladder up behind them and make what they did illegal. They don’t want the competition.

Are their exceptions? Yes. Too few to mention.

I got tired of paying the price and I bailed in November of 2008 when it all fell apart after the economy melted down.

Now I work fewer than 13 hours a week, I live overseas and my life is stress-free.

The self-made rich and successful are literally not like you. They enjoy, in fact they are unhappy if they are not, working 80+ hours a week. Most do not need sleep, or need very little. They are biochemically different. They enjoy stress. They like it. They enjoy being a workaholic with no life. They prefer it.

First generation earns it, Second generation manages it, Third generation spends it. Thus the Kennedy Trust.

Most of running a business is just petty logistics and bullshit. Double checking invoices, keeping suppliers honest, checking quantities and prices, keeping costs down, persuading people.

You can do it, but the price is high. It’s up to you if you want to pay it or not.

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oddsock June 1, 2011 at 02:34

Hayden

Avenger,

I am beginning to think that you are attempting to intentionally confuse Spearhead readers in the US that may wisely consider a career in nursing. The fact that you made your comment about RNs needing a BS while sitting at a computer where you can easily google “associates degree RN programs” actually makes me angry. Why would you do that?

“Why would you do that?”

Because mate people like her need to use whatever technique they can to cause confusion on MRA/MGTOW websites. A few do it just for shits and giggles but you will find more of the feminists/manginas know full well they will be “outed” very easily if they come on here and try and argue their position. If they dont get voted down they will perhaps just be called out on their BS and told to feck off ! A new approach for these types is to try and appear as very smart and clued up people on certain subjects and then give misleading info to cause at the minimum confusion or more to their liking, in fighting and arguments on the chosen web site. Most will also try and pretend to be men with a similar horrific story to back up the desired image they wish to project. Others post under different names. Quite pathetic really, the flaws are usually quite easily spotted.

P.s. The spearhead has quite a few of these types already. Here’s a tip, just watch for completely out of context bursts of anger and insults. An old favourite of the emotional terrorist or the common or garden bully. It prevents most people from asking or questioning them, similar to the old sales gimmick; if you can’t dazzle them with brilliance? Baffle them with Bullshit.

Our major advantage is that there is a wealth of talent and knowledge on these websites and what usually happens is that one of us will have had some
experience in a said topic and can usually spot a very impressive cut and paste speel made by these plant pots but when asked for clarrification on certain points they give either no reply or just a bizzare angry and insulting response with a bit more Bull thrown in for good measure.

It becomes quite amusing to watch when you start to see the pattern

By their deeds you shall know them.

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oddsock June 1, 2011 at 03:16

Lee Raconteur

Oustanding post, superb. A more truthful comment on reality would be hard to find.

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Uncle Elmer June 1, 2011 at 06:45

Lee Raconteur June 1, 2011 at 02:09

Tell us how it’s done.

Be a natural born, gifted, salesman.

—————————–

Salesmanship is an acquired skill, anyone can do it. What follows your first statement is of little practical value to the average man looking for work in a feminized economy.

And I don’t advise lying, dishonest, criminal, or phony behavior. But you bring up an important point in that the waters of independence are filled with sharks looking to make you their next meal. See my opening comments about hazards facing the entrepreneur. Whenever I have tried business dealings the other guy thinks it’s his patriotic duty to rip me off.

“Now I work fewer than 13 hours a week, I live overseas and my life is stress-free.”

We look forward to your input in Part II about specifically how you are doing that.

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universe June 1, 2011 at 12:43

The first rule is to convince yourself that you cannot lose. When you do, woe to whom might try to stop you.

– Well written words by Rebel (above). And applicable to most things one wishes to endeavour themself with.
The fact that you, Gender Foreignere, are here, still breathing, and writing a book on the real nature of the elite government/industrialist sponsored “women’s” movement, with evidence, indicates that you are not ruined.
Invert Rebel’s words for a moment: If one has convinced themself that they have lost then one has. Harbouring the disappointments of 26 years ago is a sure way to remain unhappy.
Never mind the cultural infighting for a while. The real more worthy pursuit is one concerning your most inner life, your own soul. Focus on whatever it is that you have now and convince yourself that it is good.

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PeterTheGreat June 3, 2011 at 08:57

An important criteria in all this is to first prepare yourself for working in a male dominated area. They are still there. Hard sciences, accounting, actuaries, engineering. You’ll save yourself a lot of heartache.

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Archer Grant June 4, 2011 at 07:23

Reminds me of this post about how the romantic wishlist women have for men is just as impossible as the (female dominated) HR wish list is for employees;

http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2010/11/how-female-romantic-wish-list-for-men.html

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Uncle Elmer June 4, 2011 at 16:56

Interesting, thanks for the link Archer.

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Quartermain June 4, 2011 at 18:46

Thanks Archer,

I also read the other post linked to it.

Then I book marked the blog.

Sounds like a good post for the spearhead.

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operationoptout June 5, 2011 at 05:52

Excellent advise. Permissions to add this to my site with links and acknowledgments back to you. This is exactly what men to understand to survive and thrive in todays economy.

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Uncle Elmer June 5, 2011 at 12:58

Go right ahead “operationoptout”

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Eman June 9, 2011 at 11:25

“The Crisis in Male Wages” – http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/06/the-great-male-stagnation/240160/

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Noah Nehm June 18, 2011 at 22:04

Der Mann muß hinaus
Ins feindliche Leben,
Muß wirken und streben
Und pflanzen und schaffen,
Erlisten, erraffen,
Muß wetten und wagen,
Das Glück zu erjagen.

– Schiller
Das Leid von der Glocke

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Noah Nehm June 18, 2011 at 22:05

Translation of above (from the Song of the Bell, by Schiller, 1798)

The man must go out
Into hostile life,
Must work and strive
And plant and produce,
Calculate, gather,
Must wager and risk,
To hunt for fortune.

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georgiaboy61 June 19, 2011 at 00:13

Hayden, re: “it is hard to work around female nurses, but there are a great many jobs for a smart male nurse with a strong back. Nursing is a very unusual mixture of mental and physical labor, and men naturally possess the tools for the tasks. Again, why do you stick to a position so easily disproven? A BSN is great, but it is not the only key to the door of licensure. ”

The above is one man’s opinion… let me present another. As a licensed RN and paramedic, I would not advise men to enter nursing and regret doing so myself. It is one of the dirtiest, toughest jobs around – the hours are terrible, the pay lousy considering the level of responsibility, respect is lacking, and worst of all, nurses are at the bottom of the professional healthcare food chain. Manure, as you may have heard, flows downhill. Doctors routinely abuse the nurses, and male nurses are no different. The culture of the field is female, and likely to remain so for the foreseeable future. If you can be out of the workforce long-enough, be a physician, pharmacist, physician assistant or physical therapist; these fields all pay better than nursing, have better working conditions, and receive greater respect from women and men alike. Oh, one other thing: most (not all) men and women, will assume that any man in nursing is a homosexual. Not a rant against gays, simply a statement of fact. If you want a more blue-collar type field in medicine, be a paramedic. If you are young enough and like military life, join the navy or army and become a medic/corpsman; the service will then send you for advanced training on their dime, in whatever field you choose. I wish I’d followed this path. Just sign me… going to medical school and glad I am…

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georgiaboy61 June 19, 2011 at 00:18

One final comment: there is a looming nursing shortage for a reason. The rate of turnover in nursing is very high; burnout is a constant threat for those in the field. Most hospitals require 12.5 hour shifts of nurses, these inevitably become 13-14 hours. If you are “lucky,” you’ll get some eight hours shifts mixed in. Hiring managers discriminate on the basis of age – they deny it but this is a real factor. All things being equal, they prefer a young person to a middle-aged man or woman. Too much attrition from older RNs and LPNs, and the hospitals know they can work the heck out of the young folks, who aren’t as likely to complain. In sum, the nursing shortage exists for a reason. The job sucks.

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Salvatore April 10, 2012 at 19:10

My female supervisor at UPS in New York City called me into her office one day and boy was she upset. She glared at me and started shaking her finger at me as an old school teacher would do to an errant boy. What did I do wrong?: ” You don’t use your sick days. You’re making us look bad” . Bad Bad boy! I never called in sick and I was never late for work in the 5 years there. She and the girlzz used every excuse in the book to take days off to go shopping and go to some gym/spa . I called in sick the next day and never went back. I caught a plane to California and bought up old run down properties, fixed ‘em up and resold “em. I only hired/worked with men. It was like heaven.
My heart goes out to the young men in America. Learn a trade,whatever else you do, learn a trade and you’ll have something to fall back on. My dad taught me that when I was a kid as he handed me a hammer. Good old-fashioned advice. I tell all the young men I meet the same.

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