Slate France Defends Decision to Publish Alleged Strauss-Khan Victim’s Name

by W.F. Price on May 20, 2011

Coming under fire from American (and probably European) feminists – dedicated enemies of free speech – Slate.fr felt it necessary to defend its decision to name rape accuser Nafissatou Diallo, the 32-year-old divorced Muslim woman who claims to have been attacked by former IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Khan.

I’ve argued against anonymity for both accusers and accused in rape cases, because transparency and justice go hand in hand, and Slate France makes a compelling case for the benefit of the alleged victim. In fact, the more I learn about Ms. Diallo, the worse things look for Mr. Strauss-Khan. Initially, I was pretty skeptical, and of course guilt cannot be established without a trial, but the situation appears grim for Strauss-Khan at the moment. Leaving aside the fact that he fled in a hurry and was snatched off a plane right before takeoff (never looks good in court), more and more examples of alleged boorish behavior on his part have been coming to light.

Our resident French commenter Nico, who would know a lot more about this character than most of us, writes:

…I believe the accusations against DSK are probably sincere and describe what really happened. The man has already used manipulation and physical strength to try to get sex. Although he chickened out before comitting rape, he went far beyond what most men would deem acceptable.

and…

When Tristane Banon accused him of rape attempt on French TV and described a real fight on the ground, DSK trying to take off her shirt, he didn’t even care to sue her for diffamation, even though most french politicians spend a lot of time and money to sue adversaries for trifles. The mother of Tristane, who is a politician too and knows DSK on a personal level told the press that DSK admitted he went too far and regretted his behaviour.

More stories are coming out suggesting that he was abusive with women, even with prostitutes who were paid to please him. So much so that they refused to return with him.

Prior allegations aside, if the press is honest about the victim and she turns out to be unimpeachable, unconnected to Strauss-Khan’s rivals, and a woman who is willing to face her accuser, it won’t be good for DSK. No accusation made in private and behind an impenetrable feminist wall of secrecy can have anywhere near the power of one made in the open, and with full disclosure. A woman who has nothing to hide is a woman who is far easier to believe.

According to Slate, Ms. Diallo came to the US with her husband, a Guinean trader, and daughter in 1998, after which she divorced at some point. Since then she has been raising her daughter, and for the last three years working for the Sofitel hotel chain.

Here’s what a family spokesman has to say about her (feel free to correct me if I bungled the translation — my French is pretty rusty):

«C’est une bonne musulmane. Elle est vraiment très jolie, comme beaucoup de femmes peules, mais dans notre culture, on n’accepte pas ce type d’agressivité. Franchement, Dominique Strauss-Kahn est tombé sur la mauvaise personne! C’est un scandale et c’est vraiment triste, cet accident!»

“She is a good Muslim. She is really quite good-looking, like many Peul women [her ethnic group], but in our culture we don’t accept this kind of aggressive behavior. Frankly, Dominique Strauss-Khan went after the wrong woman! This incident is scandalous and truly sad.”

Her cousin, Mamadou Chérif Diallo, when asked whether she’s been used for political purposes, responded:

«Non, non, non! Les gens doivent comprendre qu’ici, on vit dans le communautarisme et que Nafissatou vit dans sa communauté, les Peuls de Guinée, et qu’elle ne s’intéresse pas à la politique. Elle n’a pas le droit de vote aux États-Unis et ne participe même pas à nos associations politiques guinéennes.»

“No, no no! What people have to understand is that here, we live in a tight community, Nafissatou lives in her community, the Guinean Peuls, and she doesn’t have any interest in politics. She doesn’t have the right to vote in the US, nor does she involve herself in any of our Guinean political associations.”

I’m sure this isn’t the entire story, but from what I’m reading here, DSK is looking more and more like a straight-up asshole. If I didn’t know a thing about Ms. Diallo, I can say with certainty I’d feel a lot more sympathetic toward DSK and skeptical of the accuser. Of course, I make no judgment concerning DSK’s guilt — the point I am making is that anonymity for the accuser does NOT help make a case.

In their defense, Slate editors answer questions about why they chose to name the accuser, writing, among other things, that answering questions about the woman who accused DSK would protect her against rumors, conspiracy theories and character assassination. Furthermore, her surname is evidently very common throughout West Africa, comparable to an American name such as “Jane Smith,” and the editors write that they wouldn’t have used it if it were particularly rare [this last one is kind of a lousy excuse, and looks wishy-washy].

Personally, I think Slate France did exactly the right thing. Justice should happen in the open, and, it seems, the women who are the least ashamed about making a public accusation are generally the ones who are least likely to be lying through their teeth.

Now we’ll see how this story plays out in court. As of today, Dominique Strauss-Khan is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, as it should be. And, Nafissatou Diallo will publicly give evidence as state’s witness without any legal privacy shield. For the sake of honest people everywhere, this is how it should remain, and the caterwauling of feminists to the contrary should go entirely unheeded.

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Hedgewolf May 20, 2011 at 00:20

The French apparently love their socialist superhero and are saying he was set up. Two politicians getting their crash courses in modern feminist-fueled law (Arnold and DSK). I know a few politicians who I’d care to recommend to the feminist-law leviathan.

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Nico May 20, 2011 at 01:17

Their was a poll a few days ago showing that 57% of French believed it was a set up, but it was made just a few hours after the scandal broke out. Now many people have changed their mind I guess.

This belief in a set up is partly due to Nicolas Sarkozy ‘s reputation and personality. He is very cunning, ruthless and machiavellian. He is the kind of politician no one would really be surprised if he plotted such devious traps.

Before the scandal broke out, every poll showed that DSK was leading the race to the presidential election. I had become accustomed to think he would become the next president, and so had many French. It was quite a shock. Sarkozy is extremely unpopular, even among his core electorate.
DSK belonged to the right wing of the socialist party. People knew he could be trusted as an economist and that he wouldn’t repeat the mistakes Mitterand made.

The three other major candidates for the socialist party all have major flaws.
Segolene Royal, who was opposed to Sarkozy in 2007, is a crazy feminist. But many people are now aware that she is a bit of a lunatic and she won’t win the primaries.

Hollande was her former husband. He belongs to the center-left, like DSK, but he lacks charisma. However he is the most likely socialist candidate now that DSK is out.

I met Martine Aubry a few times and I was impressed by her personality. I think she is very honest, capable and strong. But like many French, I also believe she is too ideological and leans too much on the left side. If she was elected, it makes no doubt that the state would become stronger and stronger. Moreover, she regularly takes feminist stances and enjoys the support of the most active feminists activists. She alledgedly cried during a meeting a couple of days ago. She is good friend with DSK and she was very upset by the accusations.

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Avenger May 20, 2011 at 01:36

That family spokesman is saying that in our culture (meaning muslim) they don’t accept aggressiveness but that can mean anything to them even talking to a strange female.
And btw, you have just as many unbalanced and malicious muslim females as anywhere else. She’s living in an apt. that was set aside for AIDS sufferers which means she either has AIDS or is living there in violation of the law. She may have contracted AIDS from her deceased husband or some other man and has a underlying hatred for all men.
Perhaps Strauss did come out of the shower naked and put his arm around her or something. She gets all upset due to her muslim culture and the fact that she may have contracted AIDS from some illicit activity and runs to tell the manager.When he asks he why she’s so upset she tells him about the naked man but is now feeling that she looks stupid to get upset over something so trivial so in true female fashion to save face adds that the guy also forced her to give him a bj. After she’s done this she’s not going to then tell him that she made it up and the guy was just naked because now she may lose her job for lying. Females are very good at believing their own lies and she may actually believe that’s what happened.
And I wouldn’t believe anything written in newspapers either. How would they know he was on suicide watch? And perhaps jails automatically put all inmates under watch for a few day for all I know and the reporter was just writing something that he knew the jail did for everyone but making it look like Strauss was a special case and implying he’s guilty. Then you had papers writing that Strauss’ lawyer said that perhaps the sex was consentual but a defence attorney is not going to say this if he was going to use it at a later time as a defence. And why is it that all of these females come out of the woodwork 10 years later and start talking to the press whenever there is a rape case about how they were raped too? They all like playing the little victim when a man is in a vulnerable position. What stopped them from saying something before? I saw this same pattern 20 yrs. ago when I was at the William Kennedy Smith rape trial in Palm Beach. Females who had nothing to do with the case and who couldn’t be used to testify being interviewed by the press. They even dug one up from when he was 16 and she said that he once kissed her and she didn’t want him to lol As if to imply that he might have raped her too but she somehow escaped.
I don’t believe that a man’s name should ever be released while he’s on trial or that reporters should be permitted to write anything about the case because jurors read the papers too and most of them have been so brainedwashed by feminism or are not too bright and may believe that all this gossip is fact.
Let me also add that it is the defendant who has the rights Not the accuser;she is not the one on trial.

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Delusion Damage May 20, 2011 at 01:43

Did Strauss-Khan commit a crime? We don’t know.

Is the media treating him as if a mere accusation were enough to prove him guilty? Most definitely.

Does anybody outside the deep recesses of the internet seem to be taking issue with that? Most certainly not.

Even is he is eventually proven guilty, will that make this public-opinion railroad any more justified? Most certainly not.

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Opus May 20, 2011 at 02:33

The question here is of anonymity for the victim (that is to say the accuser).

The justification for anonymity was that if a woman were Raped or the victim of an attempt this would lower her in the eyes of respectable members of society – she would be shunned. This however is a hang-over from the days when a Spinster’s chance of marriage (very important) depended on Virginity (or at least a reputation for chastity) , and if married to prevent shame accruing to her Husband and her family.

We live in an age of promiscuity where on average women have more sexual partners than men, where Marriage is an optional extra for women and where not only would a Husband and his family not suffer from a Rape of his spouse but where men have no rights atall over their wife or family (if the wife so chooses). Inddeed as most men here can testify (well I can) women seem to bragg about their sexual misfortunes – a form of kudos for the ‘alleged’ victim.

It is for these reasons that any justification for female anonymity no longer exists.

At the same time the State (to please women) has extended the definition of Rape and sexual assault to include sex between husband and wife and imprisons people for even so much as looking at a woman (whilst tossing men the bone of homo-sexuality as a compensation). It is now therefore men (like Strauss-Khan) who need protection from the increasing spurious allegations of sexual misconduct.

Strauss-Khan looks like a set-up to me (even if he is a satyr). It is interesting to note that whereas women regard a woman’s previous sexual conduct as irrelevant to the question of propensity to consent to sexual intercourse they do not seem to have any difficulty feeling free to judge Strauss Khan on the basis of his alleged prior behaviour.

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Avenger May 20, 2011 at 02:59

@ Opus- but there was no anonymity back in the good old days when females worried about how they would be judged based on the appearance of chastity.
These days when all females are Hos they want anonymity lol
Something is backward here.
Actually, newspapers used to print all the details back in the 1800′s in England both about the divorce cases under the new divorce law and sexual assault. The public loved reading this stuff especially since it was all about the higher ranking people. Magistrates handled the the cases for the proles and generally just gave a fine for things like rape and battery etc.
There was a case of indecent assault that came up at the Old Bailey where Capt. Valentine Bailey kissed a girl on the train and ended up getting convicted and serving 12 months.This is the person but outside of a line I can’t find anything on the Net about the case and don’t feel like typing a few pages about the case from my books.
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F70816F6395F1A7493C1A91783D85F418784F9

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Opus May 20, 2011 at 03:19

@Avenger

Very interesting and it is noticable how the ‘crime’ of Rape has been treated differently at different times in the last millenium. My view, by the way, (which I won’t here set out the reasons for) is that there is no longer any justification for a separate crime of Rape – and that unwanted sexual contact should be treated like any other crime against the person.

People are still fascinated by the sexual conduct of the rich and famous (they are clearly no better than you or I, if not worse – one only has to read Suetonius to see how the Roman Emperors carried on) – why only this week we have so far had Schwarzenneger, Strauss-Khan and now Goodwin (Fred the Shred).

Is there any justification for these super-injunctions (in which we clearly lead the world) when the success and fame of celebrities is built on a (false) image of their behaviour?

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Avenger May 20, 2011 at 03:33

Well, it was actually muh worse for a female back then. She might get pregnant. Today if a female says she was raped they probably do a D+C to really clean her out and then give her a morning after pill. Of course you can catch some disease but AIDS is very difficult to contract even assuming the man has it and all the other diseases that could kill can be treated with antibiotics. Back then there was no reliable treatment for syphilis and if you contracted it it may come back 10 years later in its tertiary stage in about 10% of the infected cases and kill you. And it wasn’t a nice death because you’d get GPI and slowly go insane while dying. Churchill’s father died this way.

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AfOR May 20, 2011 at 03:36

I am deeply disturbed by the character assassination.

DSK may or may not have been a sexual thug, or a par with the local pimp and drug dealer, but you simply cannot draw a line from a wildly extravagant sex life to being a rapist.

Aaaahnold fuck some ten tiers down skank, it all goes horribly wrong and NOT according to plan (a cheap fuck) and so what does he do?

He opens his wallet.

*IF* DSK had considerably overstepped the bounds of extravagant sexual behaviour and strayed into the realms of non consent and rape with some twenty tiers down skank, what would his normal reaction be? what would the skanks normal reaction be?

He’d open his wallet.

This story stinks, we already know the electronic door records to do match her testimony, SOP in the hotel is to open the room door and leave the cleaning cart in the doorway holding the door open, the hotel computer door records backs this up, DSK agrees with this.

His accuser says he shut the door…..

And as someone else said, as usual in these cases nowadays as soon as a man is named as a potential rapist all the fucking wimminz come out of the woodwork and start making historical allegations dating back years and even decades, and these get published too, in DELIBERATE character assassination, to sell the rapist story.

Adolf Hitler was probably a complete cunt, but that does not make it one iota more likely that he ever raped anyone.

Speaking as a falsely accused rapist, we all have one thing in common, “why would I rape this bitch or anyone else when I can get the exact same thing for free anywhere else?”

DSK was used to dropping two or three THOUSAND bucks on a whore for a fuck, and it was “pin money” to him…. this is like the chairman of a road haulage company being accused of driving away from a gas station without paying…. it doesn’t make fucking sense.

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Nico May 20, 2011 at 03:40

On this video, a few major political commentators, journalists and politicans discuss DSK’s case.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPQOnG2ydOg&feature=player_embedded#at=371

Manuel Valls is a close friend of DSK. He is a congressman and a major personality among the socialists.

He is angry here because he feels the journalists are accusing him of having turned a blind eye on the behaviour of DSK until it was too late.

And this is what he responds (from 5 :50)

« You are telling us : you knew, you were aware that DSK was not only a womanizer (seducer) but also someone who could be violent, and then you mention such or such incident. So what ? Didn’t you know it too ? (pointing to Franz Olivier Joffrin, a major political commentator.) And you Laurent Joffrin, didn’t you know it too ? (Laurent Joffrin is a prominent journalist).

So it’s like : we all knew the guy could be agressive with women.

(«Vous êtes en train de nous dire: vous étiez au courant, vous saviez que DSK n’était pas seulement un séducteur mais aussi quelqu’un de violent. Mais alors? Vous ne saviez pas vous? Vous Laurent Joffrin, vous ne saviez pas?»)

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oddsock May 20, 2011 at 03:48

Paul Craig Roberts: The Strauss Kahn Frame-Up, The Amerikan Police State Strides Forward 1/2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLgQvP0H_j8&feature=channel_video_title

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Opus May 20, 2011 at 04:04

Excpetionally well put AFoR.

Is there now a man alive who has not at some point been threatened with a Rape or sexual-misconduct allegation? You must either conclude that all men are criminals, or that they are perfectly normal and that it is women who deliberately or otherwise are living in a sexual fantasy world of their own creation. (Believe me ladies the majority of you – at least 99% – are of no sexual interest to me atall).

It is men who have to make the first move, but men will not make that move unless they are given some sort of signal by the woman. The woman can at any time withdraw consent, but frequently, playing coy, or saying ‘No’ is just a test of a man’s ardour and masculinity. I ask you out on a date – I can be rejected as being creepy. You accept the date and I put my arm round you – you can say that is unwanted contact. I look at you, – that is perceived as stalking. Women will clearly only be happy when all men ignore all women on all occasions by failing to pick up on the signals women drop. Then they will be really annoyed!

Women (being overgrown children) do not grasp the seriousness to a man of thier accusations. A friend of mine was friendly with a woman. She, in fact lived with another man, but would attend his appartment where she happily performed oral sex. Naturally the time came when he tried to persuade her to go further. She responded by threatening to report him to the Police for attempoted rape. He was genuinely shocked. The next time she rang his door bell, a few days later and asked to be admitted he refused to admit her. On enquiring as to why he would not see her, he explained that on her previous visit she had threatened to acuse him of attempted Rape.”But, ” she responded ” I was only joking”. My friend clearly did not think so, or felt that it was safe to accept this at face value, for he closed the dood on her and never saw her again. Women have no sense of responsibility.

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DCM May 20, 2011 at 04:22

Feminists don’t want female rape (and assault) accusers named because anonymity helps them run their scam, which 90% of the time it is. They’re more difficult to find out since investigation requires more work. It probably means more money for lawyers in some way.

This situation looks like a setup to me, but I don’t know anything about French politics. In fact, it could be more related to US politics although with Obama being a marxist you’d think he’d want one as the French president.
The Muslim connection makes the female even more questionable — a black female Muslim being today’s ideal victim for political schemers and more likely to be running a scam or some sort.

Political plot or not, men’s interest should center on the privileged position of females in legal matters.

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oddsock May 20, 2011 at 04:33

Your mind is being controlled by media

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PE7VHDLnYw&feature=player_embedded

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Carnivore May 20, 2011 at 04:45
Snark May 20, 2011 at 04:57
Snark May 20, 2011 at 04:58

Take note, women. If men are preferring to have sex with CARS than live human women then you’re in a very dark place indeed! LOL!

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Nico May 20, 2011 at 05:07

Alpha males featured on the cover of Time

http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,20110530,00.html

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Avenger May 20, 2011 at 05:17

Time? Does anyone still read that rag? I actually thought it was defunct years ago.

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DirkJohanson May 20, 2011 at 05:28

We ought to simply grab every issue of Time we can get our hands on and rip them to shreds or set them on fire without paying for them.

50,000 women signed up for cheating website Ashley Madison the day after Mother’s Day this year. Of course, when women cheat, its a biological imperative.

And didn’t it occur to Time that Arnold’s babymomma was cheating on her husband, too? Answer: Yes, which is why every copy of the magazine should be destroyed.

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Carnivore May 20, 2011 at 05:33

@Nico May 20, 2011 at 05:07
“Alpha males featured on the cover of Time”

Interview by Blitzer of Times editor:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2011/05/19/exp.tsr.time.men.act.like.pigs.cnn

Note how editor say that men AND women who reach the top have a tendency to feel the rules don’t apply to them.

The a-hole Wolfie has to interject – but not just powerful men but poor men also behave like pigs. He has to make sure to appeal to his female viewers and keep the soundbite interview on track – men are pigs. Yeah, and his point is? Many women up and down the ladder behave like sluts.

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Poiuyt May 20, 2011 at 05:34

Asides from the accuser herself, every single one of all the other persecutors, holding rasied weapons and arms against DSK to lethally menace and harrass him officially are males themselves.

At what point are men going to wake up to find that, using the muliple socio-political pretexts of better civilisation, gender sensitivity, womens rights etc, it is they themselves that have built a brutalised prison society and a hellishly unbearable atmosphere of discrimination around themselves ?

Take this UK Police blog, for example, rightly condemning false rape accusers for the inferiors, liars and missfits they are. All the police commentars, perversely however, instead of sympathising with the huge number of falsely accused men whom are put through hell and high water for nothing, actually go on and on about the infinitesimal number of truely raped women as the only real victims.

So in this filthy, dirty and god-awfull genderist culture, itself coercively structured and enforced by male police, male persecuting authorities, male prosecutors, male jailers and male judges, a fasely accused man is not himself to be regarded as a real victim, but merely collateral, merely a hapless stooge, merely an unworthy miscreant in the wrong place at the wrong time ?

http://inspectorgadget.wordpress.com/2011/05/19/when-is-a-rape-not-a-rape-shock/

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AfOR May 20, 2011 at 05:36

@ snark

used to one of these for bikers

Motorcycles only need their fluids changed every 2,000 miles.

Motorcycles’ curves never sag.

Motorcycles last longer.

Motorcycles don’t get pregnant.

You can ride a Motorcycle any time of the month.

Motorcycles don’t have parents.

Motorcycles don’t whine unless something is really wrong.

You can kick your Motorcycle to wake it up.

You can share your Motorcycle with your friends.

If your Motorcycle makes too much noise, you can buy a muffler.

You only need to get a new chain or belt for your Motorcycle when the old one is really worn.

If your Motorcycle smokes, you can do something about it.

Motorcycles don’t care about how many other Motorcycles you have ridden.

When riding, you and your Motorcycle both arrive at the same time.

Motorcycles don’t care about how many other Motorcycles you have.

Motorcycles don’t mind if you look at other Motorcycles, or if you buy Motorcycle magazines.

New Motorcycles must be asked for, and if you don’t want to pay for them, you don’t get them.

If your Motorcycle goes flat, you can fix it.

If your Motorcycle is too loose, you can tighten it.

If your Motorcycle is too soft, you can get different shocks.

If your Motorcycle is misaligned, you don’t have to discuss politics to correct it.

You can have a beer while riding your Motorcycle.

You can have a black Motorcycle and show it to your parents.

You don’t have to be jealous of the guy that works on your Motorcycle.

You don’t have to deal with priests or blood-tests to register your Motorcycle.

You don’t have to convince your Motorcycle that you’re a motorcyclist and that you think that Motorcycles are equals.

(the additional notes were contributed a friend of the author)

If you say bad things to your Motorcycles, you don’t have to apologize before you can ride it again.

You can ride a Motorcycle as long as you want and it won’t get sore.

Your parents don’t remain in touch with your old Motorcycle after you dump it.

Motorcycles always feel like going for a ride.

Motorcycles don’t insult you if you are a bad rider.

Your Motorcycle never wants a night out alone with the other Motorcycles.

Motorcycles don’t care if you are late.

You don’t have to take a shower before riding your Motorcycle.

It’s always ok to use tie downs on your Motorcycle.

If your Motorcycle doesn’t look good, you can paint it or get better parts.

You can’t get diseases from a Motorcycle you don’t know very well.

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Skywalkerx2 May 20, 2011 at 06:10

In today’s wonky world, a bloke can be dragged from a plane in handcuffs, frog-marched to an arraignment surrounded by heavies, have his image plastered all over every tabloid and website on the planet, be told by the Federal Reserve he’s no longer wanted in polite company, refused bail for frankly idiotic reasons, put on a suicide wing – and referred to by a leading feminist journalist as ‘the disgraced Dominic Strauss-Kahn’ before a single piece of evidence has been presented to the jury and all this based on the whim of a silent accuser.

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Opus May 20, 2011 at 06:55

A while back in Britain a man was convicted for having sex with the pavement (sidewalk). Must be some sort of fetish. As for women and unlike motor-cycles, you cannot (unlike my paternal grandfather) be paralised from falling-off one (as in a crash) – although on second thoughts that may be possible too.

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John Boy May 20, 2011 at 06:57

Having money is clearly a huge advantage for a man in a rape trial but only up to a point. Having good lawyers never hurts. But it can also make you a target. Having money or fame increases the possibility that the accuser will want a civil trial. Further, someone with a lot of money is in a position to settle a civil trial rather than fight it out to the bitter end.

While that might be good for that individual it is bad for men in general. I think of the Kobe Bryant incident. For my own sake, I had wished that would have gone to full civil trial. It was clear that his accuser followed him to his room and initiated contact (something that if a male employee had done that to a female guest would have been treated entirely different). Under cross examinatin her story would not only have completely unravled but would have put him in a position to possibly have her arrested for false accusations (that would be just deserts). Rather he just paid her a few million (out of his 100 million) and he walked away. Meanwhile his accuser hit the payday.

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Lovekraft May 20, 2011 at 08:06

I thought it was understood that anything coming from MSM is usually state-advanced control.

Seems like feminism as it pertains to white knight law enforcement is akin to the ‘war on drugs’ where instead of decriminalizing small amounts of marijuana, the laws were amped in order to provide billions of dollars to the police and judiciary, not to mention justification for out-of-country ‘action.’

So with feminism. Instead of telling women to just grow up and develop a sense of humor/thicker skin, the courts and police budgets get padded via moving the goalposts (like the Yale fraternity being banned for ‘offending’ the ladies. In academia, having free speech curtailed because it is offensive should be a greater offense, no?).

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Keyster May 20, 2011 at 08:36

“- the point I am making is that anonymity for the accuser does NOT help make a case.”

This originally came into play because women were both ashamed and afraid they wouldn’t be believed. It then became a cloak they could hide a questionable repute behind. Many didn’t want their character or past publicly scrutinized because typically such behavior is what led to the situation where a rape might occur, like being a prostitute or slut.

The African woman had no idea about any of this and had nothing to hide. If she were suspect NYPD would have sniffed it out. Let the deluded, obsessed, undisciplined old alpha male rot in prison. He was a disgusting pig, with power.

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Bogey Key May 20, 2011 at 09:28

Keyster, she lived in US since 1998. You’re telling me she didn’t catch on about womens’ privileged/entitled status in America by that time? Even a female pet rock eventually realizes its placed on a pedestal compared to the male rock.

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Nico May 20, 2011 at 09:28

OT: In China, at the last minute, the man decided not to marry. The bride tries to jump through the window, miraculously rescued:

http://www.lefigaro.fr/medias/2011/05/17/20110517PHOWWW00397.jpg

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Carnivore May 20, 2011 at 09:38

Nico May 20, 2011 at 09:28
” OT: In China, at the last minute, the man decided not to marry. The bride tries to jump through the window, miraculously rescued:”

Could have been worse and turned into a Chinese Miss Havisham. If she lives in Satis House, watch out! ;)

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Nico May 20, 2011 at 09:45

Beyoncé’s new song, called “Run the world (girls)”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBmMU_iwe6U

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AfOR May 20, 2011 at 10:02

@ Keyster.

You disgust me.

Your eagerness to throw another man to the wolves and in doing so advance the march of feminazism still further is quite simply nothing less than the worst possible service that one man can do for his fellow men.

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Keyster May 20, 2011 at 10:04

“You’re telling me she didn’t catch on about womens’ privileged/entitled status in America by that time?”

She lived in a very culturally cloistered environment; among people of her native country. As a Muslim woman she has dignity and modesty and was probably shocked that a rich white man would attack her in his exclusive suite, while she was there to do her job.

Not everything is going to be a conspiracy; a malfeasance of some sort.
Sometimes shit just happens.
Sometimes a man really rapes a woman too.
Try to maintain perspective.

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Keyster May 20, 2011 at 10:16

“Your eagerness to throw another man to the wolves and in doing so advance the march of feminazism still further is quite simply nothing less than the worst possible service that one man can do for his fellow men.”

He’s not just “another man”.
You and I are “another man”.
I doubt he’d have no problem throwing the likes of you or I to the wolves for a mere slight. He’s a powerful meglomaniacal tyrant who saw himself above the law, thinking he could attack women with impunity because of his wealth and position in the world.

It’s men like him, drunk with power, that give men like you and me a bad name. He’s no “fellow man” of mine.

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only known as Joshua May 20, 2011 at 10:29

As others have put it quite well. The US is a genderist society, Canada is also genderist society.

It stinks to high hell when you’re a man. Not to mention dealing with the god-awful shenanigans. False rape society would soon come crashing down. And the actual victims of various crimes would remain anonymous, regardless.

Once you invite a woman into your home. Sooner or later she would give you a headache. It makes me wonder if women have a genetic flaw in their make up, of which made them the complete idiots that they are. But no offense ladies. knock it off.

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Rebel May 20, 2011 at 10:39

It’s all political.

Sarkozy is very unpopular in France: he would have been beaten by DSK at the next election.

But Sarkozy is Washington’s floor mat, therefore, he MUST remain in power no matter what.

Pinochet, Mubarak, Khadafi,Saddam, Bin Laden, Sarkozy etc…etc…etc… all puppets who will/have been discarded after use.

There are higher interests in play here: PETROLEUM.

The menace: China and its unquenchable thirst for petrol: both American society and China are going after the same dwindling resources in the Middle-East.
That’s also the reason why the next war will take place in Pakistan: to ward off the Chinese from the precious resouces of the M-E.

Just follow the money, that mighty powerful god.

The mass media is controlled by the feminists, therefore untrustworthy.

Here is a source of info that has not yet been infiltrated:

http://www.pakalertpress.com/

And to a certain point:

http://english.pravda.ru/

While everybody’s attention is concentrated on an aging maid’s vagina (lol!!), things are happening.
(Like, for instance, NATO bombing Lybia, doing Washington’s dirty work.)

Remember how the Patriot Act was enacted? Nobody saw it coming because all attention was on something else.

Now, expect every hotel to be equipped with hundreds of cameras, for your added freedom. Expect the TSA to put their hands in your pants whenever you jump on a bus, or train or metro or enter a shopping center-for your own security and freedom.

Expect the police to break into your house or apartment and shoot you.. for your added freedom and your added safety.

By all means: trust your government, trust the justice industry.

ROTFL!!!!!!

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only known as Joshua May 20, 2011 at 10:40

I still find it disturbing after hearing/reading online about men who brag about having sex with cars. And it give me the willies just reading about it again.

if a man wags his dick, and wipes it on my truck window. I would snip his stupid pecker off.

I wonder what the hell people are thinking these days. Sex with car is manly thing to do. it’s considered liberating for a flabby woman to have a sex with 13 year old boy.

Good god, people have lost it.

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Nico May 20, 2011 at 10:44

“At what point are men going to wake up to find that, using the muliple socio-political pretexts of better civilisation, gender sensitivity, womens rights etc, it is they themselves that have built a brutalised prison society and a hellishly unbearable atmosphere of discrimination around themselves ? ”

Males have an interest in diminishing the number of other males among the population. It is due to the imbalance of gametes: billions of spermatozoa for every single ovum.

I think this ruthlessness males can have against other males is hardwired and will always exist.

When Yanomami warrior attack another tribe, they plan to get rid of every male, but they want to keep women alive (so they can become their wives).

Alpha males will always try to trample down the lowest ranking males, because it enables them to build harems.

This is what feminism is all about. Powerful males building a system that makes life difficult for lower ranking males while “emancipating” women who will eargerly join their unformal harem.

I agree with Keyster on that point: whatever the result of the trial, DSK shared no interest with me. On the contrary, he has spent his life promoting the feminist agenda while womanizing. The more young women on the cock carrousel, the more he would fuck for free, and he had a legendary appetite.

When he bordered on his plane the other day, his last words as a free man allegedly were: “Nice ass!” to one of the female crew member (serious french newspapers told this story).

It’s important that he gets a fair trial, as fair as possible, but don’t forget that DSK belongs to the main beneficiaries and pilars of feminism, which he has always supported.

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only known as Joshua May 20, 2011 at 10:45

@ rebel

That is one disturbing picture. I fear that people don’t know the dangers that are staring right at our faces.
The TSA are bunch of perverts and thugs. They get off humiliating others, just some sicko has a fetish or whatever thing that gets him/her off.

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oddsock May 20, 2011 at 10:49

only known as Joshua

I still find it disturbing after hearing/reading online about men who brag about having sex with cars. And it give me the willies just reading about it again.

For some reason I suspect you would not be very impressed with men having sex with Orange inflatable sheep then ?

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Rebel May 20, 2011 at 11:07

@Oddsock
“For some reason I suspect you would not be very impressed with men having sex with Orange inflatable sheep then ?”

But I thought goats were your thing?

Change of heart?

Blink

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oddsock May 20, 2011 at 11:13

Rebel

@Oddsock
“For some reason I suspect you would not be very impressed with men having sex with Orange inflatable sheep then ?”

But I thought goats were your thing?

Change of heart?

Blink

Pfttt! Goats indeed. Only foreigners have such strange sex usually French speaking foreigners that is.

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only known as Joshua May 20, 2011 at 11:15

Personally I like women, even though that they tend to be fickle and prone to mood swings. At times, a woman is not worth the trouble. Sex with a woman is like a game of Russian Roulette.

If your juices are sapped. the chances greatly vary that a woman would bite the man who bedded her.

If there’s a synthetic chick out there. the world would be an interesting place. Though I don’t know what the long term implications would be.

Other than that I am not going to say much. But still call me foolish. I’d prefer the smell of a woman aka a shrew

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Reader May 20, 2011 at 11:21

Oddsock,

I thought that were going to start a franchise in Paris, as soon as you figured out how to make the self-lubricating inflatable orange sheep smell like weird French cheese.

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Keyster May 20, 2011 at 11:36

…no wonder liberal feminist women think men are pigs:
Their men are pigs.

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oddsock May 20, 2011 at 11:38

Reader

Its the damn weird French cheese smell I just can’t perfect mate.

We may have to go back to the drawing board. God forbid, we might even have to use a live woman. The ones I know all smell very cheesy !

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oddsock May 20, 2011 at 11:40

Keyster

Hmmm, Pigs, never thought of that avenue before.

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Rebel May 20, 2011 at 11:43

“Reader May 20, 2011 at 11:21
Oddsock,

I thought that were going to start a franchise in Paris, as soon as you figured out how to make the self-lubricating inflatable orange sheep smell like weird French cheese.”

The self-lubricating orange sheep is, in reality, a self-inflatable one.
Careful how you use it.

First, introduce said sheep inside the bottom hole. Wait 2 minutes for the sheep to inflate inside your belly. Enjoy.
To remove sheep, open up the belly and proceed to extraction.
Or:
Insert a pair of long nose pliers inside bottom hole.
Then yank!
It should come out in one piece.
Careful not to remove stomach when extracting the inflatable sheep.

French cheese do not smell funny. I wasn’t cheese you ate…

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oddsock May 20, 2011 at 11:48

Rebel

“French cheese do not smell funny. It wasn’t cheese you ate…”

I really wish you hadn’t told me that mate !!!!

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SingleDad May 20, 2011 at 11:51

@ Joshua

Yes, the scent of a woman is intoxicating. Ask Mr. Struass if it’s worth it. When ever I get the urge I just think of my son, a feminist would eat the two of us for lunch.

My solution, I don’t get within smelling range.

Do you think anyone would notice an inflatatble sheep around the house?

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oddsock May 20, 2011 at 11:53

only known as Joshua was last seen rushing for the exit ha ha ha

only known as Joshua

Don’t worry mate. This place is full of foreigners and some weird people.
I will advise you accordingly. Trust me.

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Opus May 20, 2011 at 11:54

Given that this thread concerns the outing of a certain person and given further that the news here today is that a certain ‘athlete’ is suing Twitter because certain people have revealed on Twitter the identity of this athlete (I have just twittered to see who it is, – but you can do that too) it seems to me that Super-Injunctions and secrecy laws (apart from only being a law for the rich – and thus bringing the law into disrepute) are ultimately by reason of modern technology ultimately unenforcable and counter-productive. Only yesterday a Law Lord revealed details of a certain Super-Injunction where the Subject had already revealed his identity, the Law Lord using his parliamentary privilege to reveal what it was all about – although we do not yet know the name of the slut. Now as this person is probably the most unpopular man (apart from the former PM ) in the country no one gives a damn. You will notice that in this post I have complied with all Super-Injunctions and revealed no-one’s name and thus there is no chance of The Spearhead being sued. ;)

Injunctions are an Equitable remedy and thus not granted as of right (de jure) but it seems to me wrong that only rich people and women (see OP) are able to utilise immunity from being named.

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oddsock May 20, 2011 at 11:57

Single dad

Thats the stuff mate. Keep grinning. We are born happy it is society that trains us to be unhappy and we all know who else hates to see us happy ! Also proved in recent studies.

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Reader May 20, 2011 at 12:02

About: Rebel May 20, 2011 at 11:43

“The self-lubricating orange sheep is, in reality, a self-inflatable one.
Careful how you use it.

First, introduce said sheep inside the bottom hole. Wait 2 minutes for the sheep to inflate inside your belly. Enjoy.”

Oddsock,

WTF? You obviously sent Rebel the wrong User Manual.

But he should have been able to figure it out.

Can you imagine how he would try to use one of those female sex robots, which some claim are right around the corner?

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oddsock May 20, 2011 at 12:12

Reader

Damn. I must have sent him the instruction manual written in English.

Or maybe he thought it was goat ? He is fond of his goats remember.

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oddsock May 20, 2011 at 12:14

Hey Opus.

You seem to have a legal bent. How are you on contract law patents and animals ?

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Jameseq May 20, 2011 at 12:20

My reading of this dsk case has been the same as price, nico & a few others. Im very surprised to see the level of unqualified belief in dsk’s innocence in both threads. Yes a man is innocent until proven guilty but to deny it certainly looks grim for dsk, due to prior PUBLIC complaints about his behaviour is – well the reverse of a feminist saying women never lie about rape.

Im nolonger part of the mrm. Too much trans, colour & homophobia, gynophobia(which is not gynorealism). Im just an equalatist.

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oddsock May 20, 2011 at 12:23

Meanwhile

23 women in Sweden child porn probe

Twenty-three women from across Sweden have been charged with involvement in what investigators described as a unique child pornography case because most of the suspects are female.

http://news.uk.msn.com/world/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=157654237

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SingleDad May 20, 2011 at 12:32

@ Oddsock

You just referenced that piece about the female pedo’s because of the pic with the horse getting on a train.

Are you proposing renaming this site to “The Sheepshead” and making it an equal sheeps rights site, mainly manned by old goats?

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oddsock May 20, 2011 at 12:36

SingleDad

hahaha I was just laughing at that photo. Feck me, he could have just got on the thing and rode it to his destination. Much cheaper than todays train fare.

Hey plenty of old goats on here mate. I am only semi fosil myself mind.

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Rebel May 20, 2011 at 12:41

“WTF? You obviously sent Rebel the wrong User Manual.”

And therein lies the problem… there is no user manual.

It is assumed that you would know how to use a suppository: no instruction manual here, either…

Sorry..

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intp May 20, 2011 at 12:43

Didn’t international bankers bankroll feminism? A spider caught in his own web…

Probably another reason the feminists want anonymity for women, in these cases, is so a woman’s checkered past won’t come to light before trial. It is apparently okay to bias potential jurors against men, but not women.

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oddsock May 20, 2011 at 12:50

Ohhh Rebel

That wasn’t a suppository that was the tube of glue for puncture repairs. I bet you was constipated for weeks ?

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Rebel May 20, 2011 at 12:53

“oddsock May 20, 2011 at 12:36
SingleDad

hahaha I was just laughing at that photo. Feck me, he could have just got on the thing and rode it to his destination. Much cheaper than todays train fare.

Hey plenty of old goats on here mate. I am only semi fosil myself mind.”

Oddsock: which part of you has been fossilized?

(or maybe don’t say it..!) lol!!!

And, oeuf corse, the inflatable sheep is not made of French cheese….

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duke May 20, 2011 at 12:55

There are crimes much worse than rape but victims of those crimes have their names published whether they like it or not.Rape should be no different.

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oddsock May 20, 2011 at 13:00

Anyway. More important and pressing matters. The dilema. Do I get dial a pizza with a large portion of garlic mushrooms and do my gob iron practice, regardless of leaving it smelling like a Frenchmans Bill Grundies. Or do I go all religious seeing as according to some fringe christian space cadet group the world is ending tomorrow and say, nay get thee behind me satan and fast ?

Problems problems.

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only known as Joshua May 20, 2011 at 13:03

Since we’re going off topic momentary sometimes humour is good. It keeps us from flying the coop.

In the old days. It is the men who do the biting, during the sex.

@ single day. I will keep that in mind. If I don’t howl like a blood hound, when I spot a nice smelling woman. :P

If I were caught on camera salivating, tongue sticking out like a demonic hooch.

I think I heard a urban legend about two people (man and a woman) were stuck together like they were dogs. Of course, it was before my internet days.

I’m just hanging off the ceiling observing you guys. Still lurking about.

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SingleDad May 20, 2011 at 13:13

@ Joshua

You have to stop watching those “funny” movies that Troll King has.

Talking about dogs, I heard an interview by the Madam that outed Elliot Spitzer this morning on the news (that’s tele to you Oddsock) and the girl she had service DSK said he was aggressive and that she didn’t want another “date”.

That could mean he is a total @sshole or bad tipper. Either way it’s defined as violence by the current ladies of the eternal cow. Sheep are looking better and better (sheep looks up, backs away).

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Seamus the Classicist May 20, 2011 at 13:32

I was thinking as a another dimension to game or interaction with a female. Always get the dirt on any woman you interact with, find their skeletons and be sure to amass the corroborating evidence.

As an example, my ex-fiancee “joked” that she could cry rape. In the back of my mind I knew I had two cards to deal, one of personal nature and the other of legal nature, the later would have come into play. See she had a series of unexplained seizures as a child, a detail she left out on her Naval ROTC application (why I don’t know since it would have been easily waiver-able.) So if she had tried any accusations I would have hit her with that, lying on a federal form about ANYTHING is punishable, at the very least she would have been booted from the Navy under “other than honourable conditions.”

I however don’t hold that the system works against them as it works against us. Even if the Navy knew she was a liar from the beginning they would probably let her finish out her billet with an honourable discharge since the Navy wants to maintain a 60/40% balance of male/female officers.

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SingleDad May 20, 2011 at 13:34

@ Rebel

Old fossilized cheese, ah, the imagery of your writing. At first I thought it was off topic but then I remembered we’re discussing a 62 year old French beaurocrats sex life.

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only known as Joshua May 20, 2011 at 14:05

One last time.

If you look at a feminist snatch. Expect to be inflicted by the Shrieking Disease aka the Screaming Disease.
What would spook a man almost to his death and near sheer insanity. They say it’s the gateway to the evil worlds beyond.

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only known as Joshua May 20, 2011 at 14:16

@ Seamus.

I believe women are capable fighters. But that’s how far I would go. They’re capable fighters. Women lack the leadership skills. They need to be on a leash. Otherwise they would start committing acts of hoodumism. If is a nuclear sub is manned by all female crew, expect friendly fire of the feminist kind.

False accusation is murder.

When a man styles himself as a alpha. And he falls from grace. he’s fool and idiot. In a feminist centric society, screwing with one woman alone is a big no-no.

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Keyster May 20, 2011 at 14:17

Ironically, as an extremely wealthy and powerful socialist/marxist frenchmen, he’s one of the the most powerful feminists in the world…and yet there are those here that would defend him.

Women are NOT the enemy guys.
Powerful men who support feminism are.
Give women some power, and individual men will never rise up to challenge you. Disenfranchise them, mitigate their power, dissolve the family.
This has been going on for 100 years.

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JohnT May 20, 2011 at 14:21

OT:

I’m seeing more and more of this and less of the lip service to “equality”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBmMU_iwe6U

Can you image a man producing this and replacing the title with men instead of girls?

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only known as Joshua May 20, 2011 at 14:50

Given on how many times false accuser lie. It’s getting to the point where its friggin impossible to tell when a woman is nonstop liar or telling the truth for once. Kind of like when the boy who cried wolf. same principle. I suspect that we’ll never know or learn tidbits of truth.

standards is pretty low these days. I don’t know how far it would sink.

But an honest woman is pretty friggin rare. I would value her honesty, her personal dignity above other things.

Speaking of Dominique Strauss Khan, men like him are drunk with power.

they that plow iniquity, and sow wickedness, reap the same

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only known as Joshua May 20, 2011 at 15:03

To survive in this world. We would need tools to guard ourselves from such madness. And not to fall into pitfalls of foolishness.

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Seamus the Classicist May 20, 2011 at 15:23

@Keyster,

Remember in war it is not only Generals that are killed, foot soldiers, even misguided foot soldiers are culpable.

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Uncle Elmer May 20, 2011 at 15:29

Opus May 20, 2011 at 06:55

A while back in Britain a man was convicted for having sex with the pavement (sidewalk).

———————

I’ve always said here that I would rather fuck a hole in the mud than a western woman. This anecdote you cite is a concrete example of that attitude.

Ta-doom-tish!

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Uncle Elmer May 20, 2011 at 15:33

Seriously though Price, his rushing for a plane is circumstantial in the extreme. Having flown hundreds of times, there is always someone rushing the gate, and I have barely made it a few times right before they pull the chocks and lift off.

And the “suicide watch” is another example of deliberate humiliation. Similar to “Bin Laden porn”.

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oddsock May 20, 2011 at 15:37

Bravo Uncle Elmer lol

This anecdote you cite is a concrete example of that attitude.

Ta-doom-tish!

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Uncle Elmer May 20, 2011 at 15:41

Oddsock, let’s maintain mud-hole sex a well-kept secret, or the feminists will try to deprive of us of even that simple pleasure.

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Paradoxotaur May 20, 2011 at 15:45

@Jameseq: “due to prior PUBLIC complaints about his behaviour is – well the reverse of a feminist saying women never lie about rape.”

Actually, it’s the reverse of feminists saying that a woman’s prior sexual behavior (even with the accused) has no bearing on her current claim of rape/sexual assault. Funny how feminists will accept “public complaints” (not convictions or even formal charges) against a man as near-certain proof of criminal guilt while insisting that a woman’s behavior, even a long-term history of consensual sex, commercial sex, or prior rape accusations that were proven to be false, are irrelevant. Note also how the accuser is near universally referred to as “the victim”, and not “the false accuser” or even “the alleged victim”. In today’s media, men are guilty as charged- no trial needed. I take no position on his actual guilt or innocence.

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DCM May 20, 2011 at 15:57

“Avenger May 20, 2011 at 05:17

Time? Does anyone still read that rag? I actually thought it was defunct years ago.”

It was. It’s one of the Living Dead.

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oddsock May 20, 2011 at 16:04

Uncle Elmer

“Oddsock, let’s maintain mud-hole sex a well-kept secret, or the feminists will try to deprive of us of even that simple pleasure.”

No problem although it does sound a bit on the kinky side for a normal guy like me. I will just stick with me sheep.

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only known as Joshua May 20, 2011 at 16:09

It’s kind of ironic that men like Strauss Khan is indited. Depending how this will all play. I think it would best for me not to take sides on this debate.

It seems to me that there are two class of men. The self-styled Alphas. And the Joes.

The Joes had to work with only what they have. Limited resources, and little ingenuity. Granted that some Joes are dirt poor. and had to work harder than others.

the more I see the self styled Alphas, the more I am glad to be a Joe. And i wouldn’t change any of it for the world.

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Anon May 20, 2011 at 16:38

Forbes has an article that is misandric even by their standards :

http://www.forbes.com/2011/05/20/marriage-sex-affair-maria-shriver-dominique-strauss-kahn.html

The premise is that only men ever cheat, and that all men eventually will.

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Nico May 20, 2011 at 16:52

@Anon

It’s “Forbes women”, written by a woman.

She typically describes women as helpless victims.

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Keyster May 20, 2011 at 16:53

“Remember in war it is not only Generals that are killed, foot soldiers, even misguided foot soldiers are culpable.”

You’re equivocating the female of the species to a soldier?
A beneficiary of the spoils perhaps, but she’s no soldier.

Were woman as a group, capable of organizing, financing and fomenting the biggest social movement of our time on their own? Aren’t they too incompetent, emotional and self-absorbed to ever have been able to pull such a feat off?

Who is it that really deserves the credit? Women, or the powerful socialist/marxist inclined men that manipulated and funded their little movement? And the male politicians that pandered to them for votes?

This Strauss-Khan character (note hyphenated name) is EXACTLY the type of fellow who has, and will continue to back feminist causes around the world with his “distribution” of monies.

Feminism would have never gotten off the ground without male feminists and they keep it thriving to this day. For a misogynist/MRA to give women credit for it is hypocrisy defined.

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Steve P May 20, 2011 at 17:15

I DONT BLAME THEM !

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/guys-and-dolls/

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Uncle Elmer May 20, 2011 at 17:49

Time, Forbes, Newsweek, Men’s Health, Playboy…femrags, all of them.

Would that Time show a cover of a pig dressed up as a slutwalker and imply that all western females are swine.

And “Newsweek”, which recently sold for one dollar, in the last month headlines a sneering, metrosexual essay waxing ecstatic over the plight of middle-aged white men in the recession, complete with requisite shaming over their alleged need for viagra. Would they publish a similarly vicious essay about post-30 women who can’t find husbands?

If, like me, you have been spending far too much time on the internet, you will recall a few years back when Forbes bravely published an essay that correctly observed that marriage to a career woman was a mistake for a man. After a predictable feminist screech-fest they published a pathetic rebuttal and then removed the offending article from their site.

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Uncle Elmer May 20, 2011 at 17:53

I am wrong, it’s still there :

http://www.forbes.com/2006/08/23/Marriage-Careers-Divorce_cx_mn_land.html

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only known as Joshua May 20, 2011 at 18:17

Oh yeah I remember that article on forbes. It’s friggin brazen, not to mention hateful.
the hell is wrong with the white women and other women in general.

Thanks for reminding us Elmer.

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TFH May 20, 2011 at 19:22

Look at this mangina attempting to shame men into marriage, coming up with all sorts of explanations about why men don’t marry, except the most obvious ones :

http://yahoo.match.com/y/article.aspx?articleid=8041&TrackingID=526103&BannerID=689629

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TG May 20, 2011 at 20:44

This is all to setup Christine Lagarde as the head of the IMF.

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/04NT4KE9lK18b/610x.jpg

She was at the IMF just last month for the spring meeting…on top of that…DSK is a high level socialist…and we all know what socialists think about feminism…and how they use it to dominate the population…

Once again the masses play checkers while the mega elite play chess….

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Seamus the Classicist May 20, 2011 at 20:51

Read that article and the simple answer is conspicuous by it’s absence: that men are not willing to deal with women for the simple reason that women are nothing but a bundle of problems.

There is also simple misdirection: instead of men not wanting to deal with misandry, it’s they want to avoid responsibility, they want to be free instead of shackled by unfair family courts, etc.

I guess Occham’s razor is too patristic and masculine for the conniving female mind.

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SingleDad May 20, 2011 at 21:29

@ THF

That screed reeks of despiration. Men who won’t commit for “other”…lol, cause the wimmenz be crazzzy.

Yep. Thez crazzyy wimmenz, and fat to boot.

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Avenger May 20, 2011 at 21:46

@ Welmer
Just thought I’d mention that you could earn a lot of money here:

http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2011/05/business_booms.php

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Legion May 21, 2011 at 01:56

Avenger May 20, 2011 at 21:46

Hang on while I check the web to see if anyone wants old drunken Irish/German spem.

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oddsock May 21, 2011 at 02:07

Avenger

Just thought I’d mention that you could earn a lot of money here:

I have still got loads of old crusty wooly socks beneath my bed. If I cash them in I could retire.

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oddsock May 21, 2011 at 02:11

I have got the blue eyes etc just the nationality is wrong. I need to borrow someones birth certificate and do a photo shop job on it. Feck me, if Obuma can do it I am sure I can ?

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buck swamp May 21, 2011 at 03:54

Keyster said: Women are NOT the enemy guys.
Powerful men who support feminism are.

I understand your point, but I respectfully disagree with your wording. Women ARE the enemy. To say otherwise is to give a giant pussy-pass to the 51% of the population that is systematically depriving the other 49% of their legal rights.

Your point that powerful men who support feminism are critical to the success of feminism is valid, of course.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) May 21, 2011 at 04:31

“if the press is honest about the victim and she turns out to be unimpeachable”

“According to Slate, Ms. Diallo came to the US with her husband, a Guinean trader, and daughter in 1998, after which she divorced at some point.”

If the second statement is true then she is a woman who broke her marriage vows. People who break vows are NEVER unimpeachable. You break your marriage vows? Your word is worth nothing. Period.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) May 21, 2011 at 04:39

Keyster said: Women are NOT the enemy guys. Powerful men who support feminism are.

@All. The Men who sponsored the criminal legislative system and legal system and back it up with thugs in the police force ARE the real enemy. I have been saying that for years. So those who BEG such criminals to ‘please be fair to us in the future’ are stupid idiots who deserve their slavery. Would you the mafia to stop extorting you for protection money? Well your guvment IS the mafia. Just because you ‘voted’ does not mean they are not a bunch of criminals.

That said. Women are OPENLY COMPLICIT in these crimes in the VAST MAJORITY. In THREE YEARS only ONE Australian woman has spoken out strongly. NO Australian woman has done 1/100th of what I have done. Since they are complicit? That makes them collaborators. In a war? A collaborator is your enemy. Pure and simple.

Any MOTHER NOT willing to sit on a jury and fairly and justly try women who commit crimes against men is your enemy. By they way? SO IS ANY FATHER who will not do that. I am not sexist. I judge FATHERS and MOTHERS exactly the same when it comes to being willing to sit on juries to defend the rights of their children. Remember. Many MOTHERS have SONS. That they refuse to protect the rights of MEN means they are betraying their SONs. As per the article by the radical feminist whos son is accused of sexual harassment that was posted here this week.

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Avenger May 21, 2011 at 04:43

@oddsock-well I’m sure that you’ll make some lesbian couple very happy with your donation:)

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oddsock May 21, 2011 at 04:52

Avenger

@oddsock-well I’m sure that you’ll make some lesbian couple very happy with your donation:)

EEwww! What you go say that for ? They are going in the bin now !

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only known as Joshua May 21, 2011 at 06:20

the obvious reason why men don’t want to marry career women. Is that they are heavily indoctrinated. Once they feel that they’re unfulfilled, they would do take off. And blame the man or the kids for hindering her from her shenanigans.

I think it is possible rebuild marriage from ground up. using common law marriage as a loose model. Hopefully the common law marriage hasn’t been trashed that is. Given what’s been going on in the Canada, US, and European Union.

People would oppose that idea, specifically feminists, gays and lesbians. Considering that reforming a marriage into a contract specifically between a man and a woman. Well they would be a little angry, and possibility political humbug

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Anti Idiocy May 21, 2011 at 08:20

I have no idea if DSK sexually assaulted the woman in question. He might have; it might be a setup. In either case, the powers-that-be are well aware of the fact that such false accusations can be used against political opponents. The powerful will use the recently exaggerated and distorted laws governing sexual activities against each other.

“Dominique Strauss-Kahn gave an unpublished interview only two weeks before his arrest in which he suggested he could imagine a scenario in which he might be set up for rape, it emerged on Monday.” http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/dominique-strauss-kahn/8517387/Dominique-Strauss-Kahn-conspiracy-theories-mount.html.

In addition, there’s now a sex scandal in Turkey that may well lead to the very Islamist AKP party taking full control of the government and then rewriting the nation’s constitution: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13484990.

“Lawmaker Deniz Bolukbasi, one of the six MHP leaders who resigned on Saturday, said he had been the victim of a trap sponsored by Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s AKP.”

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Ulysses May 21, 2011 at 08:44

Only slightly off topic: check out this ad I just came across. What a fine message to send to our young wimminz. I mean hey, they can always cry rayyyyp afterwards.

http://img-cdn.mediaplex.com/0/17038/128465/Volcom___RCVA_300x250_Unisex_NA.jpg

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Keyster May 21, 2011 at 11:41

“I understand your point, but I respectfully disagree with your wording. Women ARE the enemy.”

The point I’m trying to make is that out of one side of our mouths we go on about how much better men are than women; that we’re more forthright, innovative and courageous, have a higher IQ and so forth.

While out of the other side of our mouths we say how complicit, devious and manipulative they are. Which is it?

The vast majority of women have no idea that they’re benefiting from something at the expense of men, nor do they care about power. They’re following “Dancing with the Stars”, shopping, going out for drinks with friends and teasing men as the mood suits. To say they even conscious of the state sanctioned legal power given to them by men in power, is giving them WAY too much credit.

They’re mere civilian bystanders, in a war between some “traditional” men, feminists and male feminists that serve at their behest. Don’t condem every single woman that exists. She’s not worthy of it.

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Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) May 21, 2011 at 12:40

oddsock May 20, 2011 at 04:33
Your mind is being controlled by media

It most certainly is. I like the ‘you gotta get mad’ speech. But men here? They are not mad enough yet.

I like this one better. The pieces cut out on the other one are in this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq9Gg7A-YEE&feature=related

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oddsock May 21, 2011 at 12:56

Keyster.

I must admit my thoughts on whether or not women are the enemy do swing from one side to the other. After considering the various POV I have reached the conclusion that you are closest to the truth. I still believe that many women are very much the enemy but I also believe that to consider all of them as the enemy would be giving them far too much credit. Most are just taking advantage of the position they are in. A few know the reasons why they are in such a prime position some really do think they are superior but most haven’t got a clue.( about much really ) But, lets never forget, the vast majority are natural master manipulators of men. I suggest it is we that need to learn better ways and stop trying to play by old rules when the game has obviously changed.

This, IMHO is one of the main reasons we keep going around in circles. MGTOW Happy Bachelors Happier Abroad Don’t get married etc are moves in the right direction. Majority of women would not suspect much of anything had changed even if the streets were almost empty of men.

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buck swamp May 21, 2011 at 12:58

Keyster,

Cunning and intelligence are not necessarily the same thing. Women are very good at certain things, they just don’t make very good men.

But do you really think that women are unaware of their legal advantages over men in a marriage, until their divorce lawyer just happens to mention itto them? Then why do women initiate 70% of divorces.

Do you think women are unaware that they have reproductive rights and men don’t? Do you think girls in high school and college are totally unaware of how much they are favored over men? They may still claim to be victims of discrimination, but they know what’s going on. Do you think false rape accusers are oblivious to the damage they can cause to men who piss them off?

Really !?

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oddsock May 21, 2011 at 13:15

PAN

No problem mate. I just trying to do my part in awakening men as best I can.

You see Peter. I really do understand your anger and frustration and I admire very much most of your work and effort. I think we need to keep in mind a couple of things though. You and I was once very much the same as the men we are trying to awaken. My approach probably differs from yours simply because I now believe and paraphrasing angryharry, the powers we are up against are colossal. The war on men and boys that has been waged is but a small part of a much much bigger picture. This is why I believe trying to organize men into some sort of uniform resistance in the way you suggest is basically farting against thunder. I don’t mean what you are doing is pointless. It is very important you continue. We need to awaken men to what has happened and give options /choices/tactics and simply let the chips fall where they may. The S will HTF regardless of what you or I do and if you get some success with your approach then all the better for men. Just don’t expect any thanks, you won’t get it.

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Ulysses May 21, 2011 at 19:51

Keyster May 21, 2011 at 11:41

The point I’m trying to make is that out of one side of our mouths we go on about how much better men are than women; that we’re more forthright, innovative and courageous, have a higher IQ and so forth.

While out of the other side of our mouths we say how complicit, devious and manipulative they are. Which is it?

I say these things are not directly at odds with each other.

Our culture has been blinded by propaganda about the allegedly fairer sex, dished out by the media and femme-dominated school system. Guilt is instilled in us and impunity in them. As the physically stronger sex we practice restraint, and they took advantage of this.

It doesn’t take brilliance to exploit something in demand like punani. Wimminz take the drugdealer’s strategy to new levels: the first 500 romps are cheap, then we get married, and it becomes prohibitively expensive, even not-for-sale much of the time.

It also doesn’t require much intellect or planning to be non-seductively manipulative. Victimhood is a learned behavior and primary profession nowadays. They see what their tears and rayp stories do to everyone around them, with results that pixie dust could never compete against.

The NAWALT articles demonstrated that NAWALT is at best a temporary truth in flux. Way back a few here mentioned the incriminating things they’ve overheard from womyn who believed no men were around. Peter often mentions the hivemind’s common knowledge and support of widespread cuckolding. And let’s not forget the lawster peddling false charges to her client.

The sisterhood, or should I say the coven, definitely does look after itself despite its need for male muscle and productivity to hold it up. Don’t be fooled by the childish spending sprees and gossip/celebrity obsession. They are children, but grown enough to pursue their own ends to no end. They are the worst kind of enemy.

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Keyster May 21, 2011 at 21:56

No they don’t consciously know it, because it’s been normalized.
This just in: The Feminists Won!
It just IS, like air or water.

Let me try to be more direct here.
The majority of women are too fucking stupid to realize they have advantages over men, (many still think they’re at a disadvantage!). In other words they aren’t perceived as such. To them it’s merely normal, the way it should be.

You gotta get out and talk to other people. Take the 30 thousand foot perspective now and then. Stop hating on women. It’s a waste of energy that can be directed elsewhere in your life for more productive pursuits.

They are who they are and you can either chance it with them or avoid them, but you’ll never change their nature….at least as much as they’ve changed ours.

The Men’s Movement can never gain momentum, as long as perpetual enmity towards anyone with a vagina remains a key element within it.

While educating young men about hypergamy, game, etc. is relevant, the feminist governance machine is where the real battles lie. Political activism should be #1 in the heirarchy of things that matter most. Not incessantly whining about bitches.

The recent Mary Kellett dust up is a prime example of this. Where she requested a national gag order against men’s rights organizations and blogs. A new and entirely unexpected wave of men’s activism swept over Bangor, thanks to Elam of AVfM and Bartlett of SAVE. Yeah, there actually was an effect, that would have never happened just 5 or 10 years ago.

Keeping perspective is where the answers lie.

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Dan May 21, 2011 at 23:04

The only thing I can predict with absolute certainty in this particular
incident is that the world will never know for sure what exactly
transpired. We will get his story, we will get her story, we will get
an “expert” witness, or several, to testify to what they believe they
physical evidence represents, but we will never know for sure what
happened. Such is the nature of the beast.

Women however who are willing to be identified lend credence to
their story. Women who hide behind anonymity relegate themselves
to the level of malicious gossiper.

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buck swamp May 22, 2011 at 02:48

Recognizing women as the enemy of men’s rights is not the same thing as hating women. It is perfectly possible to desire women, and even to like many of them as individuals, while at the same time knowing objectively that modern women are destroying civilization. Women are aided and abetted in this destruction by many elite males, who actually benefit from this arrangement, but that does not change the fact that women are the primary enemy of men’s rights.

Women will fight tooth and nail against any effort to improve the lives of men and boys, or to give men equal legal rights. If that doesn’t make them the enemy, then I must confess that I don’t know what an enemy is.

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Nico May 22, 2011 at 10:32

The article 15 of the socialist party stipulates that the party is feminist:

« Le Parti socialiste est féministe. Il agit en faveur de l’émancipation des femmes. Il œuvre pour l’égalité entre les femmes et les hommes, la parité et la mixité de la société. Il garantit aux femmes l’accès aux droits fondamentaux qui assurent la maîtrise de leur corps. Il défend l’égalité salariale et professionnelle entre les hommes et les femmes. »

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phil white May 22, 2011 at 12:24

He doesn’t have the look of a perp. No attempt to duck the cameras etc. He even looks p.o.’d. He’s either innocent or one of the most arrogant sob’s I’ve seen in a while.
For now I’m guessing he’s beyond hutzba.

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Mickey T May 23, 2011 at 11:38

Strauss-Kahn update-

From an article in The Telegraph- May 23,2011-

A New York State Assemblyman said he wants the state to require hotels to provide housekeepers emergency “panic buttons” that would help protect them from sexual assault on the job.
Rory Lancman, A DEMOCRAT from Queens, said he intended to introduce the bill on Monday.

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Anonymous May 24, 2011 at 08:43

Publishing her name in the media is not “justice” being done in the “open.” At trial, she will take the stand and the trial will be public. Her name would have come out then anyway. Frankly, it doesn’t matter if you or I have an easier time believing he’s guilty by learning her account, what matters is that a jury believes it.

I’d actually argue that putting her name and details about her in the media actually works counter to justice by prejudicing the people (i.e. the potential jurors) against him before trial.

And anonymity of victims is not about “making a case.” It’s about protecting victims from an onslaught of invasion into their privacy.

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Anonymous May 26, 2011 at 13:43

I just wanted to add that the proper spelling of his name is Strauss-Kahn. Khan is a Muslim last name and sort of threw me off initially. Being a muslim with the last name Khan, it angered me that a brother would represent himself and muslims so poorly. But when I googled him it showed a different spelling and I was relieved.

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Ralph Gorman August 23, 2012 at 01:14

Two simple points on Strauss-Kahn. First, the plane he jumped on was a prescheduled flight, booked long before the alleged rape. There is no evidence of “flight” because he jumped on the plane. Second, he called the hotel to ask if he left his cell phone there. That’s how the police picked him up at the airport. No man who had just committed a crime would call the hotel where the crime had been committed to disclose his present whereabouts. He would have said nothing until safely back in France. On those two points alone, the rape accusation is transparent nonsense.

Next, Sarkozy and company in France knew all about the incident long before they should have known. The set up charge makes perfect sense. According to Vladimir Putin, Strauss-Kahn had discovered that US gold was missing and that America could not honor its international obligations. That’s when he got hit with the rape accusation. It is very much like former UN arms inspector Scott Ritter who got jailed on a bogus child pornography charge when he would not shut up about the US government’s lies over Iranian nuclear development.

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