Schwarzenegger’s fruitful dalliance with a “household staffer” some ten years ago is just coming to light, and it looks as though his marriage is done for. According to the LA Times, the “staffer” (apparently now a euphemism for concubine) was still sticking by her story that her then-husband fathered the child as of Monday. When confronted with Schwarzenegger’s admission of paternity, she declined to comment.
The LA Times has unhelpfully and unnecessarily refrained from naming the staffer in question “to protect [her] privacy.” Why an adulteress deserves such protection is a good question; it takes two to tango after all.
This particular staffer was probably only one out of many women Schwarzenegger slept with over the years. She likely was fully aware that he could get her pregnant, and despite being married went along with the sex anyway, possibly as a calculated move. According to a source, Schwarzenegger provided her with cash “from the beginning,” and kept her employed until he stepped down as governor.
Now, the question is who spilled the beans? Was it the then-husband? Did he grow suspicious and test for paternity? If so, it would be very interesting to see whether the staffer was collecting child support from both Schwarzenegger AND her ex-husband. Wouldn’t surprise me, but it’s probably just as likely that the man was paid off — not to do so would be quite a risk to take for a politician. Of course, the staffer would have held all the cards, so that decision would have been up to her.
These kinds of cases demonstrate how sticky things have become since the traditional concept of legitimacy was essentially abandoned some time ago. For unmarried women and adulteresses this has been a blessing, but for wives and adulterous men it is often a serious problem. The solution, of course, is paternity testing at birth, which will obviate both the old and interim systems.
Ordinarily, I sympathize with women who have been betrayed by their husbands. Elizabeth Edwards comes to mind, as does the wife of that pathetic SC governor Mark Sanford. However, Maria Shriver is a committed feminist who has celebrated the victory of women over men, writing A Woman’s Nation Changes Everything, a typical triumphalist feminist screed.
Here’s an excerpt from her conclusion:
As we move into this phase we’re calling a woman’s nation, women can turn their pivotal role as wage-earners, as consumers, as bosses, as opinion-shapers, as co-equal partners in whatever we do into a potent force for change. Emergent economic power gives women a new seat at the table — at the head of the table.
You see, the irony in all this is that Shriver probably really believed she was in charge and in control. Perhaps she acted that way. And what did it take to bring her down off her high horse? Why, just another woman. Probably a younger, prettier one. This is feminists’ achilles heel — there’s always a woman willing to leverage her sexuality to shove an aging feminist out of the way and claim the resources of the man supporting her. And paradoxically, feminists have given young women carte blanche to do so. I am increasingly entertaining the notion that feminism will begin to die as soon as the youngest feminist cohort begins to age out of the sexual marketplace. This should be all but accomplished within about ten years, as the last of the women born before 1980 hit 40.
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No Bill, see your earlier post about custody…
Feminism is dead when female custody of children is dead, and not before.
Wimminz should NEVER have custody.
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It seems that the scorned feminist women just take this as further evidence that all men are scum, rather than looking at the failings of their husband, or of the marriage. Because, a fabulous feminist woman is above reproach in relationships don’t you know. When Eliot Spitzer got caught with the hooker, I was stunned when his wife said “I’m partially responsible, because I wasn’t keeping up my end of the bargain in the bedroom.”
I’m not making excuses for infidelity, of course. But it is an all-too-common female assertion that “My husband cheated because all men are uncontrollable beasts.” Easier to say that than look in the mirror I guess.
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Correct conclusion, incorrect mechanism.
The mechanism by which feminism is causing the social and economic disintegration of America is that feminism was, from the start, a movement designed to entitle its constituency with unlimited privileges and no responsibilities. In other words, the heart of feminism is CHOICE WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES.
Sound familiar? Choice without consequences is at the heart of our current economic implosion. It is at the heart of America’s addiction to spending and debit. It is at the heart of the decline of employment in difficult productive jobs, in favour of a workplace of bureaucrats and desk workers who neither create nor innovate.
The wild feminist success in promoting women’s choices without consequences led to a proliferation of copy cat behaviour that is sinking our society and economy.
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and the Alpha C*ck Carousel goes round and round, and around!
Arnie is the perfect example of hypergamy at it’s finest on the part of “the help” taking him to the cleaners
Didn’t anyone ever tell him “don’t f*ck the maid”?
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In other news, the international monetary fund chief is accused of rape by … wait for it, … a hotel chamber maid of Ghanian extraction, whom happens to be a single mother of one, only newly assigned to clean the hotels executive suites in the last month.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/17/strausskahn-timeline-idUSN1628497620110517
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“This should be all but accomplished within about ten years, as the last of the women born before 1980 hit 40. ”
Salon :
Why did I never get married?
I had a few chances, but the men were never right, and now I’m 42, alone and childless
http://www.salon.com/life/since_you_asked/index.html?story=/mwt/col/tenn/2011/05/16/unmarried_at_42
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Schwarzenegger is an alpha of poor character. It is hard for me to believe that he would have married Maria Shriver if she was not a Shriver/Kennedy–Arnold has political ambition from the very beginning. But, unlike many men of great character, he was unwilling to sacrifice his libido for her and his children. Like a modern western woman, he wanted it all; the political connections, and a wayward dick.
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Regarding the “emergent woman’s nation”, the decline in productivity and employment is a result of systemic changes in the corporations to accomodate women at all levels to avoid government penalties. Since women do not create jobs or take risks, the new function of the corporation is to provide security and life-fulfillment to females instead of competitive production of goods and services.
By our very biology, the misguided drive to provide career fulfillment to women actually deprives them of the very things that truly make them happy : family and children. They trade this natural gift for the priviledge
of spending their best years confined within temporary cubicle partitions and associated office power struggles. The cubicle partitions find a home in a landfill. The women?….
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@Herbal
My gf knows that if she does not meet my sexual needs then I will get them met elsewhere. She gets all of her security and financial needs met by me and I will be damned if I am left without getting what I want.
I have no sympathy for women who have men that dally if they are not giving him the sex that he desires. The problem today is that too many men are OK with getting limited or negotiated sex from the woman in their life. That is no way to live.
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If a woman wants to marry an alpha it’s the price she’s going to have to pay.
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@Poiuyt And since Strauss-Kahn is the leading Socialist candidate, this means that come election day, the French might just send in the Marine…Le Pen!
Semper Fi….
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Given Maria Shriver’s shrill and somewhat brittle attitude in public, I have to wonder just how much of a dud she likely was in the sack. A man like Ahnold would have wanted sex a lot — and a variety of it too. Was Maria one of those lay-on-her-back-and-zone-out type lays? Or did her “empowerment” make her more and more of a hassle to get into the sack at all? If she was treating him with scorn in private, is it any surprise that a woman who treated Ahnold with respect wound up sexing him, eh?
As for getting pregnant, surely we don’t even have to discuss how that happened. “Get that alpha sperm” is pretty deeply down in the hindbrain…
And yeah, it would be interesting to see if she’s double dipping financially or not. Even if she was, though, her husband is on the hook no matter what, I’m sure.
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Uncle Elmer May 17, 2011 at 06:52
“The women?….”
Are cum dumpsters?
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“As for getting pregnant, surely we don’t even have to discuss how that happened. “Get that alpha sperm” is pretty deeply down in the hindbrain…
And yeah, it would be interesting to see if she’s double dipping financially or not. Even if she was, though, her husband is on the hook no matter what, I’m sure”.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I’ll buy that for a dollar! Just like Susie Sucksalot will often do: get pregnant by a “alpha” then make a “Beta” (Sap) pay for it thinking it is his. Happens more than we care to know…..
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So funny, about Mrs S.
The Austrians have a word for it ‘schadenfreude’ – or do I mean hubris?
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Just being a Kennedy from that Kennedy family alone, makes her an extremely questionable choice of a spouse.
Seeing how her and her Unca Ted’s influence on Arnold’s policy on illegal immigration dealt more death blows on the state of California. Terminator, indeed, and ‘hasta la vista’ takes on a new significance.
Was the maid legal. Enjoy the fruit of your policies, Maria you bitch.
I would say schadenfreude and hubris from them.
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Just being a Kennedy from that Kennedy family alone, makes her an extremely questionable choice of a spouse.
Seeing how her and her Unca Ted’s influence on Arnold’s policy on illegal immigration dealt more death blows on the state of California. Terminator, indeed, and ‘hasta la vista’ takes on a new significance.
Was the maid legal. Enjoy the fruit of your policies, Maria you bitch.
I would say schadenfreude towards them and hubris from them.
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Note that Shriver the Feminist waited to split AFTER Arnold was no longer governor. Got to get her share of his retirement and benefits!
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“Regarding the “emergent woman’s nation”, the decline in productivity and employment is a result of systemic changes in the corporations to accomodate women at all levels to avoid government penalties. Since women do not create jobs or take risks, the new function of the corporation is to provide security and life-fulfillment to females instead of competitive production of goods and services.”
You’re very right about this Uncle Elm.
The feminization of the workplace is key to our declining competitiveness in the global market. It started in the 80′s and took hold in the 90′s. It’s not just fear of government penalties (law suits from the EEOC, government contracts, etc.), hiring and promoting women en masse was a concerted public relations move as well.
Many of the CEO’s that ran these corporations were indocrinated in the 60′s, had daughters in grad school and were very sympathetic to the supposed “plight” of women in the work force. It’s been this slow creep the last several decades, that’s pushed “non-compliant” males out, and kept feminists and their sicko-phants in.
(When I say “non-compliant” I mean guys that come to work every day wanting to produce, even if it might offend some people. The feminized workplace is a popularity contest, where you “work” at getting people to like you…especially the women.)
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“As we move into this phase we’re calling a woman’s nation, women can turn their pivotal role as wage-earners, as consumers, as bosses, as opinion-shapers, as co-equal partners in whatever we do into a potent force for change. Emergent economic power gives women a new seat at the table — at the head of the table.”
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“Co-equal partner” and “career fulfillment” are two of the biggest lies sold to western females. Feminism has turned our women into a nation of competitive co-workers and led not to their economic power but an emergent demographic of single, unmarriable women who are either bereft of children or struggling to raise their fatherless offspring.
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This should be all but accomplished within about ten years, as the last of the women born before 1980 hit 40.
Interesting prognosis.
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The last laugh will still be with the Skeleton (wife) since she will either receive a sizable alimony paycheck and monthly child support combined to totals of $100,000+ per month. Ordinarily, I would feel sorry that a man is being legally robed of 70-80% of his current and future income, but in this case I don’t feel sorry for a politician that has had a hand in passing many new feminist laws over the last decade.
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“When I say “non-compliant” I mean guys that come to work every day wanting to produce, even if it might offend some people. ”
These are the guys that drive the business forward. In the corporation their brutal tactics and long hours drive them to the top. Few women want to do this, but government-backed feminists demand that women be placed at the top without enduring the decades-long infighting to get there. It turns jungle law on its head and leads to business stagnation.
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The thing I find funniest about this whole thing is this. Maria Schriver is running around like a complete bitch telling the world how “it is a woman’s world now” and running down her husband and MALE sons in public by doing so…..and yet…..
She can’t even keep HER OWN HUSBAND sexually satisfied.
There is a word for such women.
LOSER!! LOL!! (Hey, they wanted to be treated like men.)
Of course it will be portrayed that he betrayed her and that he’s ‘bad’ but WE ALL KNOW that if it was the other way around it would be
“Arnie was so busy being governor he didn’t pay Maria enough attention and he drove her into the arms of another man for what it was she needed and could not do without.”
Yep. The ONLY way this should be played out in the man-o-sphere that just like uber-feminist Hillary Clinton, uber feminist Maria Schriver could not or would not give her man what he needed. Uber feminists are a FAIL in the bedroom. LOL! Losers. Every which way you slice it.
Now? Arnie can live a life like me without a whiny uber-feminist dragging his daily life down. He’s got more than enough money to be dating the youngest and hottest women. He just needs to get the snip so he doesn’t father 22 and get attacked for child support! LOL!!
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@ MadPiper May 17, 2011 at 07:42
I think the reason was less financial and more NAKED CRAVING EGO.
She threw him aside when he was no longer The Big Man. I hope we hear of her trying to seduce Governor Jerry Brown!
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I agree with AfOR.
In my experience, if women have to share custody they will eventually lose custody. At this point they become less efficient men.
And what do men care about them then? It’s just another dude, kind of frail and uncompetative, who cares? Don’t come on to him (her) and don’t have problems with him (her), with the draconian workplace sexual harrasment laws the idea of being attracted to a woman at work is like….ewww.
Once pushed out of their protected market, children, their labor union, the national organization of women, will not be able to help them.
I heard this decades ago from feminist leaders from Sweden. Quote: “The only thing left to fight about are the children, and they come from us (meaning females)”.
My response, well someone has to raise them, your on record as hating the job, don’t worry, I love my kid.
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we will have to wait to see the kid…..like this photo…
http://www.google.co.jp/imglanding?q=james+hewitt&um=1&hl=ja&sa=N&tbm=isch&tbnid=bllMqGtefx43sM:&imgrefurl=http://njmg.typepad.com/ervolino/2008/03/whos-your-daddy.html&imgurl=http://njmg.typepad.com/ervolino/images/2008/03/02/prince_harry_james_hewitt_20050413.jpg&w=349&h=200&ei=wvDQTeHzF4uWvAO8sMmcCg&zoom=1&iact=hc&page=1&tbnh=101&tbnw=176&start=0&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0&biw=1659&bih=739
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Only slightly off topic. Around here FRAs are never really off topic.
@Afor. You think the Illuminati don’t use FRAs to remove people who have stepped on someones toes or said too much? How about the head of the IMF? Or do you think he really did try and rape a woman in a HOTEL ROOM? LOL!! You see? I am not like the head of the IMF. If HE said the monetary system was a scam people might actually listen to him? With me? They are safe in the knowledge that the sheeple prefer ignorance.
Here is Ben Fulford making the claim that the IMF chief for an FRA is a set up. Well? Duh? It’s got to be a setup. But I wonder if he is correct as to the reason. Very interesting. There is NOTHING believable about the head of the IMF ‘raping’ a maid. A FRENCH man at that?!?!
Please. Try selling me some beach front property in Nevada. That would be more believable.
http://truth11.com/2011/05/16/ben-fulford-the-arrest-of-imf-chief-dominique-strauss-kahn-signals-new-phase-in-financial-war/
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I know it’s off-topic but the idea that the head of the IMF , a 62 year old man and a French man at that would in a a New York Hotel, rape a 32 year-old black Ghanaian maid, when he can, if he wants afford the hottest youngest hookers in the city, at a time when he might be the next President of France is absurd.
Women suggest that Rape is about Power. If so, what power-satisfaction would Strauss-Khan gain from such a trivial (by his standard) use of power? If the maid is not a lieing gold-digger this has got political stitch-up written right through it, I would say.
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Um..Gents….check the date….1991. You guys should read this…especially the piece starting “Courtroom Techniques”.
This is how long judges have known about the freeman area. Twenty years now.
http://www.supremelaw.org/authors/freeman/freeman5.htm
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Opus May 17, 2011 at 08:47
Its a setup Opus. No two ways about it. That he is keeping his mouth shut means he knows who set him up and why. An FRA is better than a bullet.
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Uncle Elmer May 17, 2011 at 06:38
Elmer..thanks for that. I laughed my arse off!! Damn it’s a good find!!!
One thing to say to women like that. “Suck it up sweetie.”
I told women “If you do not support a father and husband like me I will spend the rest of my life telling my story to the young men. I will make damn sure there are fewer good husbands and fathers like me out there for your daughters to marry.”
Every time I see an article like this I REJOICE. We are only a few years into communicating and disseminating the ‘marriage is a lie’ story in an organized and effective way. Just look at the comments on newspaper blogs and comments sections today vs three years ago? It’s a TOTAL transformation that has been amazingly fast. The Angry Harrys of the world have been at it a long time. But there has been a megashift even in the last three years into the mainstream.
We are going to put the sword to ‘marriage with children’ and the bitches can marry their butch lesbian buddies. Women claim ‘equality’ but how many butch lesbian bitches do you see going to work day after day to pay for the turkeybaster baby the ‘love of her life’ got from some man?
NONE.
That’s how equal women are.
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Why the hell NOT. Arnold is, in actuality, a Liberal. The epitome of that RINO we hear so much about.
The only good thing to come out of this is he fucked-over a pompous Kennedy.
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Wait a second. In a “Woman’s Nation,” wouldn’t all sex be considered rape?
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@ MWPeak
I’m under the impression that in the US all sex is considered rape.
A fact obviously missed by the former head of the IMF, I notice.
Let’s not let our young men fail to realize this fact.
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I have just run the quote from Mrs Schwarzenegger through my bable fish translator from the original language into modern English and I was surprised, but this is the translation:
‘I married the biggest, handsomenest, movie star in the world and you girls can just cry your eyes out because he is mine all mine, so keep your hands off. My emerging economic power gives me a seat next to my husband at the head of his table’.
I have sent a note to my Internet Service Provider as there seems to be something wrong with the translation software.
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Nice to see a feminist radical hatemonger like Maria Schriver get her comeuppance. This woman is very thin skinned and to be humiliated like this must be causing her all kinds of grief. I wonder if she ever felt sorry for the countless lives feminism has destroyed? Of course not, to her betas (the majority of men) need to go away and die to make room for the new girl order.
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“Ordinarily, I sympathize with women who have been betrayed by their husbands.”
I don’t. In the majority of the cases I am aware of, the husband betrayed his wife when he discovered that she had married him for money, a house, stability, and children, and neither sex nor love was (in her mind) part of the deal except to breed. Typically, the wife tuned into a sexless, cold, hard, verbally-abusive shrew with a shopping addiction.
Although Mr. Manly Man and I both believe that the most important L-word is Loyalty, I can fully understand when a husband cheats on the typical dirtbag wife.
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Here is arnie with some friends. Can anyone name the man in the right?
So now you know who arnie really worked for, eh? Oh..no that’s just ‘conspiracy nutter stuff’. He was just dropping in for tea with his mate Warren Buffet in tow.
http://beforeitsnews.com/ckfinder/userfiles/0000000000003011/images/buffett_schwarzenegger_rothschild.jpg
And I love this one. Would you buy a used car from this man?
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x46/mugworticus/young_tony_blair.jpg
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This should be all but accomplished within about ten years, as the last of the women born before 1980 hit 40.
2020. As I have said many, many, many times.
The Misandry Bubble pops in 2020.
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OT but hysterical. I wonder if this is how Maria Schiver is going to look at this woman who had arnies kid.
There is no love lost between women. They are collaborators of convenience against their common enemy. MEN.
http://maxcdn.fooyoh.com/files/attach/images/591/662/978/002/michelle-obama-carla-brunni.jpg
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I don’t think feminism will end when the last of them hit 40. Their teachings are so inured within society, that new feminists are trained every day. Its popularity may ebb, but I don’t see it disappearing.
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“This is feminists’ achilles heel — there’s always a woman willing to leverage her sexuality to shove an aging feminist out of the way and claim the resources of the man supporting her. And paradoxically, feminists have given young women carte blanche to do so.”
This is one of the most true observations of feminism to this date. Interestingly, this is linked to the idea of the Patriarchy: these precepts only work if we believe in the very naive idea that women will stick together against men, just as men “stuck together to oppress women for millenia!” And of course it fails, but it isn’t collapsing. Your estimate for the collapse is 10 years? I respectfully disagree: there will be no collapse until the element that keeps this failure together isn’t remove, that is governmental protection of women through family courts. The older feminists may seem to get the short end of the stick when their alpha cheats or leaves for the younger and prettier, but they don’t become miserable, just more bitter than ever, which they can easily attribute to “see, it’s all the man’s fault again”. As long as they keep the support of the state to take their old partner’s wealth and possessions, they will be at ease to publish even more feminist propaganda, and nothing will change. Younger generations will not refrain from this lifestyle because they didn’t see these people fail: they look at a happily married woman, and a bitterly divorced one, and see no reason to juge the second to be worse off than the first. Materially speaking, she certainly isn’t.
The comparison may be a bit of a stretch, but I’ll venture it anyway: the celebration of women’s “choices” and irresponsibility is almost akin to the economic model of communist states. Both are not sustainable, and though they promise “fairness” at first glance, there is a reason why it didn’t develop naturally earlier. The only thing that keeps both going is a state and law that encourages it, and outlaws the alternative. Communism fell partly because people realized the economic model was unsustainable, but that alone wouldn’t have changed anything. It was a weakening of the control of the state, and general dissatisfaction that were the primary causes. That’s why I think we’re in this feminist world for a while, until family law looses its grip and the majority of the people feel dissatisfied. It won’t happen tomorrow, but the decline of marriage certainly looks like it helps heading in that direction.
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@ Peter
Are you trying to insinuate that the timing of the Terminators revealation was somehow influenced by his “alleged” friendship with the head of the US Federal Reserve? Seeing as how is taking the spot light off the rape scandal of the head of the IMF, are you suggesting this was done on purpose?
You just see consipiracies everywhere. It couldn’t possibly be true
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If women had to share custody … they would stop divorcing their husbands. No incentive.
Mandated equal parenting time would be the stake through the vampire’s heart.
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OT:
False Rape Society already covered it but here is the link to yet another feminist being fucked over by the system she helped create. She was a feminist in the 70s and helped spread the meme that women don’t lie about rape and now her son is facing a false allegation.
http://www.elephantjournal.com/2011/05/women-lie–anonymous/
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This just in!
Maria Shriver to write a tell all book. Working titles include:
“Terminated: My Life with the Govenator”
“I Won’t Be Back: Betrayed by T2″
“Terminator and Skeletor: When a Kennedy Married Hollywood”
“The Rhino and the Empowered Anorexic”
“At Least Girly Men Don’t Cheat On You”
Victim themed interviews with Katie Couric, Diane Sawyer and Brian Williams will abound. Check your listing for Oprah and The View.
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Wherever you stand on marriage, this much should be clear: apologizing to one’s wife for having an affair, or love child, is generally useless, especially if you are a wealthy, or prominent male figure.
You may be assuaging feelings of conscience on your part, but understand: a woman in today’s society hardly cares about your conscience, or whether you’re doing what you think is the morally right thing by being honest to her.
In a culture that encourages the worst female tendencies, i.e., playing on her emotional, self-centered nature, it’s a far better bet that she will try to take you for all you have, regardless of your conscience — after all, she has the law on her side to do it.
So if you’re caught having an affair with another woman, you might as well ditch the apology, which is an utterly self-degrading act anyway. Having sex with other women is actually nothing to apologize for, as long as discretion is exercised — this is something we Americans could learn from the French. And if your wife acts up, you really have nothing to lose by commanding her to pipe down and behave like a proper lady should.
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“The feminized workplace is a popularity contest, where you “work” at getting people to like you…especially the women”
This is very true in my experience. There is also a big difference between an office that has mostly male management with a few women and one that is female dominated. Once a place becomes female dominated you start to see what they’re really like.
They still rely heavily on a fairly small percentage of men to get the hard work done. Where I am now there are a few guys who let themselves get taken advantage of bad by their female masters. these guys tend to have several kids and wives with no income so they’re stuck. They’re a dying breed, though. The ones I know are around 50 and there is nobody to replace them.
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I have never met a woman (and that includes ALL my female clients) who would not fight ‘tooth and nail’ for custody of ALL her children. I deduce that women see children as possessions and although they complain that they have less money than previously (which is probably true – as running two homes is more costly than running just one) they do at least have the satisfaction of financially ruining their husbands – at least temporarily.
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“Cum with me if you want to live.”
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Oh boy, this link is greeeeeaaaaaatttt.
OT:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/selenagray/100088315/the-tragedy-of-teenage-girls-attracted-to-boys-with-knives/
This bitch talks about how she used to like bad boys too and now she is startled that all these teen girls like bad boys. Lulz.
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OT
Woman kills exboyfriends new kids
http://www.bild.de/news/bild-english/news/supposedly-killed-two-children-5321714.bild.html
Notice that she may have date raped him and also notice that she is at the peak of her fertility and he ran off with a younger woman.
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Schwarzenegger and Shriver deserve eachother. I just I could lock them in a room together until water turns dry for screwing California.
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that Shriver looked like a hardcore ball-buster, who tried to keep an Alpha under her thumb.
I hope their children develop the sense later in life to call it like it is and not place the blame on Ahnuld, but on the wife’s likely bitchiness.
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Sorry about the double post. Browser/connection problems.
Twice for emphasis, yea that’s it!
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Sedulous whines:
‘Yet I’m supposed to cheer Arnold because he’s man, and boo Maria because she’s a feminist?’
That’s right, little man. Well done.
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Lara is spot on.
If a woman gets an alpha, she has to endure cheating, often with women far less beautiful than her. Selfish people tend to acquire more power than altruistic, cooperative, sharing people.
People so often don’t understand this, and then are surprised that James cheated on Bullock with a woman who has a face tattoo. Or that Clinton, Spitzer, Sanford, etc… cheat at all, with so much to lose.
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If you haven’t seen already, here it is:
http://www.popeater.com/2011/05/17/maria-shriver-arnold-schwarzenegger/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%7C63478
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If you haven’t seen already, here it is:
http://www.popeater.com/2011/05/17/maria-shriver-arnold-schwarzenegger/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%7C63478
Maria asks for compassion and privacy.
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Arnold is a genetic success. Marriage is a recent invention and is detrimental to a man’s natural mating strategy.
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Having an affair isn’t something to cheer about, but neither is it the great evil American (Christian) society makes it out to be. There are far greater evils than a man seeking multiple female sex partners.
Having an affair does not impede a man from his obligation to provide his wife food and a roof over her head. Neither does it impede the affection and devotion he may have for his wife.
OTOH a woman who cheats on her husband and has multiple male sex partners is permanently damaged goods. The fact is, women cannot handle having multiple sexual partners the way men can.
For married men, the key is always discretion.
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WF Price–
I fail to see how he’s betrayed his wife in this. He’s not the one seeking a divorce. He’s not leaving her for this (Latina, I’d guess) housekeeper. The support money he’s paid her hasn’t effected Maria’s lifestyle while she was still with the Arnold.
She’s now entitled to lifetime alimony it being a more than 10 year marriage, and this being California. That is of course outrageous. Why should his obligations to her be for life while hers to him to provide wifely services and companionship are only for as long as she feel like it?
Completely outrageous.
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I have a feeling that Matt Stone and Trey Parker are running with this one.
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Exactly.
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http://totallylookslike.icanhascheezburger.com/2008/10/06/maria-shriver-totally-looks-like-preditor/
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I was stunned to find out Shriver is only 55. She really has aged poorly, she looks 10 years older.
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I can’t say I feel too bad for Arnold. He reaped what he sowed, figuratively and literally.
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Lara–
I agree. He’s a super duper alpha.
I also fail to see what’s so bad about it. He didn’t want separate or divorce.
It’s not like his supporting this illegitimate kid was crimping maria or his kids’ lifestyle.
He apparently has a great relationship with his kids. He’s trying to win her back it seems. American media and culture is doing everything possible to keep that from happening.
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MWPeak, SingleDad, it is an error to claim that all sex is rape, or that all sex would be considered rape in the feminist paradise. This clearly isn’t and wouldn’t be true. Sex with vibrators and other toys, lesbian sex, bestiality, all that and more would of course be just fine.
Only all sex that involves a man, that would be rape.
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Uncle Elmer May 17, 2011 at 08:22
“These are the guys that drive the business forward. In the corporation their brutal tactics and long hours drive them to the top. Few women want to do this, but government-backed feminists demand that women be placed at the top without enduring the decades-long infighting to get there. It turns jungle law on its head and leads to business stagnation.”
I was listening to NPR today and they were talking about how executive boards in Germany are ~100% male and women want the government to force companies to fill a certain amount of their top positions with women through affirmitive action because they can’t earn those positions on their own. It was also mentioned about how unfair it was that women lose out on their careers because they take time off to raise children and men don’t. I thought that anyone listening to this can plainly see the parallels between feminism and communism in boldface. Women want the government to level the playing field by giving them unfair advantages because they cannot compete. This is why women are okay with fascism. If it were not for the goverment they would be toast.
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“Arnold is a genetic success. Marriage is a recent invention and is detrimental to a man’s natural mating strategy.”
Arnold is a living fantasy. We all want to kill predator with stuff we learned in boy scouts. We all want huge muscles. A world without the top 10,000 arnold types would be just like the one we’re in. A world without the top 10,000 Ben Franklin types would not. Just because something is recent doesn’t mean you shouldn’t appreciate it.
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Who cares if booby-man is collecting comments? Logic and reason are to booby-man as a fish is to a bicycle…
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Keyster: guys that come to work every day wanting to produce, even if it might offend some people. The feminized workplace is a popularity contest, where you “work” at getting people to like you…especially the women
Describes my work history to a “T”. A young university grad expecting to be challenged and rewarded accordingly for meeting them. Not being told that it is one’s ‘attitude’ that leads to success, a Great Lie served to the unwitting.
The thing we MRAs have to start being aware of is, when jobs become more scarce, that the feminists be exposed should they try to maintain their numbers due to an imagined need, rather than merit.
In other words, they will likely try to ‘throw the men under the bus’ (read: white men) before actual performance-based job qualification gets enacted.
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Come on guys….
What did Maria do to drive “Ahwnuld” into the arms of another woman! After all, it is her fault!
He should sue her for domestic violence citing emotional abandonment that was so bad……he had to cheat on her. LOL!
/hamster…off!
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@Anonymous Reader:
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Given Maria Shriver’s shrill and somewhat brittle attitude in public, I have to wonder just how much of a dud she likely was in the sack. A man like Ahnold would have wanted sex a lot — and a variety of it too. Was Maria one of those lay-on-her-back-and-zone-out type lays? Or did her “empowerment” make her more and more of a hassle to get into the sack at all? If she was treating him with scorn in private, is it any surprise that a woman who treated Ahnold with respect wound up sexing him, eh?
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Hm. Ah-nold and Maria are a real-life example of Jessie and Slater from “Saved by the Bell.”
The “meathead” and the feminist.
Unlike what that ultra-feminized TV show tried portrays, this kind of combination is lethal.
The only way BOTH can come out on top is if the Slater psychologically overpowers the Jessie.
Otherwise, the Slater ends up being the Jessie’s emotional punching bag, just like in “Saved by the Bell.”
You guys REALLY need to watch this show if you want to intimately know the kind of relationship Ah-nold and Maria really had in private.
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NMH,
All those Kennedy women are really hideous when they get old. I’m surprised Arnold didn’t bail years ago.
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I wonder if Maria knew about Arnold’s affair and child while he was still in office. She probably knew the whole time, but did not say anything because she was enjoying her position as “Mrs. Governor”. It would not surprise me if she was the one who leaked the secret as a way to get revenge on Arnold. A lot of women hate their men’s affairs because it shows that the women did not have as much control as they thought they did. Now Maria can become an even bigger celebrity, like Sandra Bullock, because she “survived” her man’s affair.
What a bunch of frauds.
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I hope Shriver is suffering but i doubt it. She probably knew before this but she wanted the power and status of being the gov’s wife, and now she will make off with half of his money as well.
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That is why in most traditional societies they keep the women inaccessible. Think about the very word “adulterate/adultery” when used in another context of a non-sexual nature it means to “water-down” or “counterfeit” something.
Why is this? Because a man spreading “his seed” so to speak isn’t being adulterated, but a married woman is adulterated if she conceives a child other than her husband’s. She and the adulterating male are “counterfeiting” the product of marriage (i.e. children) for another man to care for.
That is why in traditional societies the man is given a little lee-way with affairs, whereas the female isn’t. A man who has an affair with a married woman is complicit in “theft” and woman who cheats on her husband and produces children in an illicit union is guilty of “fraud.”
I don’t know if my analogies work, but that is the best summation I can come up with.
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classic joe- you missed my point. I wasn’t saying that Arnold was a genetic sucess becauyse he had big muscles or was the terminator.I meant that men who spread their seed around are a success and shouldn’t be judged the same as females. A female who has sex with many men is cuckolding her husband if she gets knocked up while a man is not harming his wife. The wife is making her husband pay for another man’s dna that he has no investment in. While a husband who knocks up a few females is not harming the wife at all unless you believe that a wife is entitled to all of her husband’s assets.
Humans have been around at least 300k years and marriage has been around for maybe 3k and even then it wasn’t the same as today’s. Men had more than one wife or would divorce an unsuitable wife by sending her back to her family if he didn’t like her. A Hebrew man would just have to say ‘I divorce you” 3 times and that would be it.
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Do you suppose Arnie is going to gain a new perspective on the kangaroo family courts, that he as governor was responsible for, after these two bitches get through financially ass-raping him?
He’s about to find out that what he paid his concubine doesn’t count as far as the kangaroo family courts are concerned. Since it didn’t go through ‘the sate’s’ hands it didn’t happen and he’ll likely be slapped with indentured servitude (aka child support) from day one – which means he’s already in arrears.
In a way it is kind of a shame as he signed a few bills that Fathers’s and Families pushed through in CA. His successor isn’t likely to be obliging.
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Going off topic that IMF fellow’s political career is probably over. Considering that the feminists are having a field day.
A simple hoe brings down the man, either by false accusations that made no sense. Or videotaping that idiot while he’s screwing her.
Speaking of which, Ahnold had reaped what he had sowed. From that misstep, it is safe to say he had fallen as well.
As my cousin Mitchell once said, all women are cheating bastards.
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Speaking of Marriage, in truth when a man is married to a woman. He’s the other man. The state is just third party in some weird far out trinity.
if the marriage dissolves or ripped to shreds by a shrew. The government gets the cut. if you take a moment to think about it. Children are considered as assets, for the government to experiment upon. Among other things.
without the father figure the children are without compass and a guide.
In the so-called modern marriage. Men are penalized, into a indentured service.
Now with common law marriage, women are it again. Destroying what they know nothing of.
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Arnold only has 1 kid who is under 18 so he can’t be forced to pay much in child support or for long because the kid is 14. The bastard kid is about 10. And isn’t Califormia a community property State? I’m sure that Maria had her own money and if Arnold was smart he would have had her put it into the marital pot. Once money is comingled it becomes community property. If she gets 1/2 then perhaps she’ll only be getting her own money back or even less if she had more than Arnold.
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I have a strong dislike for blatant hypocrites. Opus wrote:
So he ‘professionally’ represents women like this aiding them in ‘financially ruining their husbands’, by his own admission, and yet he posts here . . . Draw your own conclusions – I have. If it were not for his credibility destroying hypocrisy, some of what he writes is actually quite good.
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“This is a painful and heartbreaking time. As a mother my concern is for the children. I ask for compassion, respect and privacy as my children and I try to rebuild our lives and heal. I will have no further comment.”
-Maria Shriver statement
(because “Schwarzenegger-Shriver” would have been too awkward)
They always invoke the children, children as pawns in the blame game once again. I submit to you the “children”:
Katherine 22
Christina 20
Patrick 18
Christopher 14
Oh the children, for the love of God the blessed children! How will dear Maria and those darling sweet kids survive all this? She’ll be a brave single mom and somehow cope no doubt. Perhaps she and Kate Gosslin can have girls night out. Octomom will babysit. They’ll talk about what mean and lecherous fools men are. Kate will coach her how to be a reality TV star.
This whole thing is tragic, just plain tragic.
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The media is calling Arnie a scum bag, but what about the house-keeper, who was also married and even worse, duped her husband for 14 years into believing Arnie’s kid was his? Oh wait, she is a victim, how could I have forgotten.
Everybody knows that men cheat because they are scum and women cheat because they are unfulfilled or coerced by men. And the MSM isn’t going to miss this opportunity to pound it into our heads some more!
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This bitch was not raped by DSK. Its a similar false rape accusers case as that of Crystal Gail Magnum and the Duke lacrosse team.
DSKs accuser, Ophelia Famotidina is 32 year old single mother of a 15 year old whom divorced her husband after reciept of the coveted american green card.
A woman whom pretend-peddles a wholesome fulani-muslim identity but engages in open exhibitionism of the facebook kind. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ophelia-Famotidina/130184743726243?sk=photos
And in america, merely accusing a man of rape entitles a woman to immediate compensation monies and free housing plus other resourses.
http://www.ziuaveche.ro/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Ophelia-Famotidina.jpg
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For a man of anry’s ways a means, da ex is but a blip. He can spend 6wks sunning himself acting for 10 or 20 million. Thta’s enuff to pay out the crone 10 times over and still buy enuff tail to die happy and bored.
His situtation is simply, yet… another… example of whimminz insatiable nature.
Another example, that for the average mass of menz… Go Your Way.
No fear, no regret, don’t look back, dont stop to wallow with da whimminz and their femmy minded lackies.
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As Guy predicted, the other woman “Mildred Patricia Baena,” isn’t exactly a looker.
http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/arnold-schwarzenegger-mistress-mildred-patricia-baena-picture/
The kid definitely looks like Arnie though.
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poiuyt-that may be a fake Facebook page and not her’s.
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I am gratified that even my sternest critic 3D Shooter thinks that some of what I write here is quite good.
I do not think, however that 3D quite understands what a lawyer’s repsonsibilities are and I am no more a supporter of lieing women than I am a supporter of Theft or Arson if I defend (as I have done) a Thief or Pyromaniac. Anyway, 3D will surely be gratified to know that it is a little while since I last did any divorce work – for a male or female – and as my Pupil Master so rightly observed ‘Divorce is not real law – they make it up as they go along’.
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Just saw a picture of the baby mama…………maybe she looks better from a distance (the moon perhaps?)
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In my darker moments, I always thought that Maria probably denied Arnold conjugal rights because given her frame and his size, he’d probably split her in half.
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OT – Senior male politician being lynched for telling obvious truths.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8520940/Kenneth-Clarke-questions-whether-date-rape-is-really-rape.html
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Wow, his jump off is as ugly as hell. :/
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Her hate campaign backfired.
A Long Island lawyer got custody of his two daughters after a judge ruled his estranged wife was behind a bizarre scheme that left his town plastered with stickers denouncing the attorney as a Hummer-driving deadbeat who let his kids go hungry.
In a scathing ruling, a Suffolk Supreme Court judge awarded Mark Musachio custody of his 11- and 13-year-old daughters, saying their mother, Annmarie, needs a shrink.
At one point in the 7-year court battle, Musachio’s Deer Park apartment complex was covered with stickers that read: “Attorney Mark Musachio is a deadbeat dad! He drives a Hummer and his 4 kids have to eat at the food pantry.”
MOMMY WEIRDEST: Annmarie Musachio lost custody of her four kids by Mark Musachio after plastering his town with dishonest stickers.
When he first saw the stickers, Musachio — who later sold the Hummer — told The Post, “My mouth fell open. I couldn’t believe it.” He has never been behind on child-support payments, court records show.
Judge Carol MacKenzie said Annmarie’s testimony that she knew nothing about the campaign was “incredible.”
Claims that she didn’t know that a gaggle of her friends would show up to picket custody hearings was equally “ludicrous,” the judge said.
The judge also found that the mother had tried to “brainwash” the kids by lying about their father.
MacKenzie refused the mom’s request to have more than two days with her daughters until she gets the psychiatric help “which this court concludes she badly needs.”
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/sticker_shock_2go9Oi2XcXNMcEkKg9BvKP#ixzz1Mi2I4cOD
*she doesn’t need a psychiatrist. She’s just an evil bitch.
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Maria Schriver:
“”This is a painful and heartbreaking time,” Shriver said in a statement to the media. “As a mother, my concern is for the children. I ask for compassion, respect and privacy as my children and I try to rebuild our lives and heal. I will have no further comment.””
Um. Might these be the same boys who read her proclaim “This is a womans nation now. We are at the head of the table.”
She didn’t want ‘privacy’ over those statements.
Maria Schriver is a great example of western women. A liar and a hypocrite to the core. And we are ALL well advised to be saying that.
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SingleDad May 17, 2011 at 10:27
I have no thoughts on the timing of this announcement SD. I was just pointing out that Arnie and no less than WARREN BUFFET dropping by to see a rothchild gives you a little insight as to who he was really working for.
Benjamin Fullford is claiming the head of the IMF is subject to an FRA because the Bush/Windsor criminal cartel are not willing to go along with the new global financial system that he was over to discuss. I have no idea if that is true or not.
Come on. The head of the IMF tries to rape a maid in his hotel room? And CNN had FIFTEEN MINUTES on this on Back Story which Michael Holmes last night?
The ONLY reason that it is getting THAT much press is that Ted Turner wants it that way. That would be the SAME Ted Turner who said that 300M people seemed like a good number for the worlds population. But I notice he’s not going first.
Depopulation gentlemen….and Arnie fights back with another baby!!
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Just more evidence of how bad Maria must have been in bed.
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I wonder if Maria knew about Arnold’s affair and child while he was still in office. She probably knew the whole time, but did not say anything because she was enjoying her position as “Mrs. Governor”.
Perhaps. Or perhaps, he told her he’d stop cheating if she stayed with him, and she was foolish enough to believe him. Perhaps, he didn’t want to separate while in office and found a way to convince her to stay. Or maybe she was just waiting for her kids to grow up because she felt that divorce was bad for young children.
The woman IS a Kennedy clan member. Does she really need Arnold for status?
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This morning’s radio news said that there is one more “love child” that Arnold has acknowledged out there, possibly more .
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Here’s a pic thats posted today:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/mother-arnold-schwarzeneggers-love-child-revealed/story?id=13626896
It’s looking like he was more desperate than I first thought.
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Let me shed some light on this situation–I have known Maria and Arnold for over 20 years and some of our mutual friends are very close to them. Through my personal observation of them and the information that was told to me by our mutual friends– their marriage has always been a cold Business Deal. They both have had their “others.” They are putting on a show for the public like Hilary and Bill Clinton. Why is Arnold coming out now? –Black mail by either the staffer or her husband or both.
The Maria/Arnold Business Deal has run its course. No tears are shed by either –they are probably laughing at how they have to pander to moral Americas and act all emotional about it.
Behind closed doors –they’re getting wasted–party on to the next orgy!
Get a clue people!
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“It’s looking like he was more desperate than I first thought.”
I’m not so sure if you subtract 10 years from the photo…….
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Got paid $1200 a week to be a maid.
Screws rich high profile boss.
Births bastard child.
Never again will she scrub a toilet bowl.
She’s set for life!
THAT’S female empowerment!
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Arnold’s baby moma is on his side: Link,
http://www.tmz.com/2011/05/18/arnold-schwartzenegger-mildred-patty-patricia-baena-tmz-los-angeles-times-threat-threaten-money-public-son-love-child/
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I’m actually not shocked he had a love child since Drudge brought it up during his campaign to run as the Governator.
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Sedulous – ”So let me get this straight.
Arnold and Maria are getting divorced because Maria is tired of Arnold’s infidelities — one of them producing a secret “love-child” ten years ago — correct?
Yet I’m supposed to cheer Arnold because he’s man, and boo Maria because she’s a feminist?”
So, who is it that’s asking you to cheer Arnold? Who’s suggesting that you boo Maria?
I don’t believe that either of those two actions was the intent of this article.
Let me suggest a different take for you:
Sympathize with Maria and their children. She’s been wronged and the children will no doubt suffer some “damage”. But, she’ll emerge from this a wealthy woman, who’ll get copious sympathy and support.
Boo Arnold. He’s the cad, straight up! He wrecked his marriage and harmed is wife and children.
But, don’t forget to boo Mildred Patricia Baena every bit as much, if not more. She not only cuckolded her husband, but has apparently engaged in a long-running paternity fraud at his expense. And, despite the evil that she knowingly and willingly participated in, you can bet that in the end she’ll be walking away a rich women herself.
And, while you’re sympathizing with Maria, don’t forget about Baena’s ex-husband. Cuckolded, defrauded, and likely still paying for the son of Arnold (with approximately zero chance that the revelation of the child’s true parentage will spare him from his child support obligations), he left with nothing – no dignity, no sympathy, no heir, and likely no money. He’s really the only uncompensated “victim” in the whole twisted affair.
Of course, since we have a man to blame, a rich celebrity one at that, don’t expect that Mildred Patricia Baena will get any thing but a free pass for her deceit, and that her ex-husband will be totally ignored (men, as you well know, cannot be considered to be victims in our Matriarchal society).
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I wonder if Maria knew about Arnold’s affair and child while he was still in office. She probably knew the whole time, but did not say anything because she was enjoying her position as “Mrs. Governor”.
Perhaps. Or perhaps, he told her he’d stop cheating if she stayed with him, and she was foolish enough to believe him. Perhaps, he didn’t want to separate while in office and found a way to convince her to stay. Or maybe she was just waiting for her kids to grow up because she felt that divorce was bad for young children.
The woman IS a Kennedy clan member. Does she really need Arnold for status?
BTW, this morning’s news reported the existence of a second “love child” with yet another woman.
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OT…but just saw this…on a womans wall no less!
“Real knowledge is to know the extent of one’s ignorance.” –Confucius
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I live in LA so the news is all a twitter this morning. Also, since I get up early for work, I hear the 6am news and frequently the writers say un-PC things which are corrected by the time the 7am writers come to work.
This morning they said Arny’s son was a frequent visitor at Maria Shrivers house. They also indicated that the son was obviously Arnolds by his facial features and smile. He is about the same age as Arnolds son by Maria, around 14 so it seems clear that he was a friend of Arnolds other son.
To think Maria wouldn’t notice the maids hispanic son was the spitting image of her eastern european husband is difficult to swallow.
The picture they were painting was that Maria knew about it and did what, IMO , the right thing and encouraged the brothers to have a relationship.
If so, I think Maria is showing alot of class in this matter and deserves my support. Arnold also seems to have tried to make the best of this.
In the report they showed the beautiful house his mistress/maid now lives in and said that Arnold bought the house for her in person saying it was a retirement gift.
So, the mistress/maid has done very well for herself. And Arnold takes care of his son. She was also described as having other children.
Also, I don’t think the mistress/maids name is “Buena”. It serves no purpose to name her here, IMO.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1388120/Dominique-Strauss-Khan-man-problem-Piroska-Nagy-warned-IMF.html
Read this carefully.
“The blonde economist who had an affair with IMF boss Dominique Strauss-Khan in 2008 warned the organisation about his behaviour towards women in a letter, it has been revealed.
In the letter, sent three years ago to an IMF-hired firm investigating the affair, Piroska Nagy, claimed Strauss-Khan was a ‘man with a problem that may make him ill-equipped to lead an institution where women work under his command.’
The brief affair between the pair, who were both married, in 2008 was consensual.
But Hungarian-born Ms Nagy allegedly claimed she felt coerced into it because the now 62-year-old was forceful and so senior to her, a source told the New York Times.”
Notice that the affair was CONSENUAL but our ‘strong and independent grrrrrl’ ‘felt coerced’ because the HEAD OF THE IMF was ‘forceful’ and ‘so senior to her’. Meaning he got the hots for a powerful and important man and was therefore ‘coerced’.
Gentlemen. Western women are LIARS AND HYPOCRITES in the main.
Please help ALL MEN by repeating this to the faces of women as often as you can. And how about some ‘self described good women’ doing the same, eh? I’m sick and tired being told ‘there are lots of good women out there’ when I can only find ONE in Australia willing to say this. If people are sick and tired of ME calling western women liars and hypocrites in the main? Then maybe when we see TENS OF THOUSANDS of women doing the same I’ll feel like I can quit saying it.
http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/australia/Forums/tabid/82/forumid/108/threadid/319/scope/posts/Default.aspx
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I will say it now and tomorrow….
Most “Hollywood” Couples have OPEN MARRIAGES anyway (as some of them tend to show eventually) and they play like they’re “shocked” when an infidelity makes it into the Tabloids….gimme a break.
Mel Gibson and his wife claimed to have had an “arrangement” but him fathering a child with another woman broke that in half.
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@Peter-Andrew: Nolan (c)
I am reminded of Mrs Merton’s question to Debbie McGee, ‘What exactly first attracted you to the Millionaire Paul Daniels’?
[Americans: It would take to long to explain this - but I assume PAN knows]
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It’s not surprising what Arnold did; the question is, why did it take him so long?
I’d be tired of looking at Maria Shriver too. Her face is pulled tighter than Gene Krupa’s snare drum.
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You guys know that retirement is an issue for me. It looks like England is finally getting gender equality in retirement ages, of course, by not letting women retire until later.
You would think the ladies of British politics would get the memo and stop stumping for later male retirement and realize we must all work together to protect any retirement for men or women but no. They are graping for a few more years of retirement.
They are calling the politicians misogonysts for asking for equality rather than realizing that demonizing men has become a wedge for governments to disadvantage everyone.
It really brings home the point that women are being used to disadvantage everyone.
Another reason I like the article is that it show how even 1,400 women from one district will sway a politicians vote. Large numbers are not needed and solidarity is the name of the game in politics:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2011/may/18/female-pension-campaigners-parliament-ageuk
Vote the misandrist comments down.
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The thing about Strauss-Kahn sort of reminds me of ditching UBL’s body on the way home.
I went to my neighbor’s today to visit and BS, as we are both Conservatives, and asked him about the allegation. His response: “Hang him by the balls”.
My response was: “Craig, what happened to “presumption of innocence” and the fact that most women lie about being raped!!”
He flipped out, and among other things, he said something about that I’m just a misogynist (he, his wife and many people the neighborhood are sure of this) and I just have a thing about women and he is sick of it. He knocked on my door later and apologized ONLY for his behavior, not what he said.
This is the mentality throughout much of our culture. Guess I need to look up the exclusions for the “Presumption of Innocence” laws. Then again there is no need, I think I know.
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SingleDad May 18, 2011 at 09:00
Yep..the press is starting to grind down on women….we are all about to be equally poor. One of the things I laughed about with my house being stolen from me was this….the guvments are about to steal EVERYONES house of them via the coming economic collapse….it’s going to be really funny watching all the wimminz run around like headless chickens when the REAL crash comes.
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@slwerner
“So, who is it that’s asking you to cheer Arnold? Who’s suggesting that you boo Maria?”
You and several of the commenters here. In particular, Binxton and Doug1 sound like they’re promoting a double standard – something that we accuse feminists of doing.
You said:
“Ordinarily, I sympathize with women who have been betrayed by their husbands. … HOWEVER, Maria Shriver is a committed feminist who has celebrated the victory of women over men…”
You sympathize with women who are cheated on unless they’re feminists, in which case Maria’s feminism disqualifies her from receiving sympathy?? I can disagree with Maria’s feminism too, but not enough to ignore her cheating husband.
The entire tone and tenor of the post and comments (with exceptions) is minimizing Arnold’s transgression and reviling Maria because she’s a feminist, as though Arnold has somehow vindicated men by cheating on his feminist wife. This is a big mistake. That just gives our opponents more ammunition.
Maybe that wasn’t your intent, but that appears to be the result here.
“But, don’t forget to boo Mildred Patricia Baena every bit as much…”
I do. And I sympathize with her husband. I don’t need a reminder. In each case, the person committing adultery is wrong, male or female, and I sympathize with the victim, male or female.
“Boo Arnold. He’s the cad, straight up! He wrecked his marriage and harmed is wife and children.”
That’s what you should have written originally.
Welmer, most of your stuff is pretty good, but I think you dropped the ball here. You could have taken a different approach also.
Maybe you should have compared Maria Shriver’s victim status with Mildred’s cuckolded husband. You could then show how a woman gets more sympathy and financial support when she’s cheated on, while the cuckolded husband gets penalized and humiliated by the legal system.
I think that would have made a better post.
Regards
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OT…but this shit is worth an article in itself…this is the shit served up as ‘parenting’ now. Notice no father.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1388121/What-happens-let-children-way.html
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“To think Maria wouldn’t notice the maids hispanic son was the spitting image of her eastern european husband is difficult to swallow.”
Is it Spitz or Swallows?
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“So, the mistress/maid has done very well for herself. And Arnold takes care of his son.”
I agree with you SD. If the kid has any looks he will be a celeb within 8 years.
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Sedulous – “You said:
“Ordinarily, I sympathize with women…”
You need to check your references. What you attribute to me, was actually written by Bill Price (the author).
But, since you’ve already F’d up in your misguided response aimed at me, perhaps we can salvage this situation with a good laugh – just send me a picture of you with you foot still stuck in your mouth, and we’ll be “square”.
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I am wrong. He already is a celebrity :
http://www.tmz.com/2011/05/18/arnold-schwarzenegger-maria-patricia-baena-love-child-nice-boy-smart-manners-charities-fundraising-studious-good/
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@slwerner
Sorry, my mistake. DOH!
OK, change all my references from YOU to Mr. Price. My argument is the same.
I’ll have a good laugh about it. Definitely not the first time I messed up.
Regards
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OT…but you will be well rewarded for the click….Fergie going on about how ‘diabolical’ her love life was a while ago.
http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/australia/Forums/tabid/82/forumid/113/threadid/423/scope/posts/Default.aspx
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Women behaving badly on You Tube.
Gents? If you have good clips and wish me to collect them? Please email them over to me on peter.nolan@peternolan.com. I propose to make quite a collection and link them into this forum.
http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/australia/Forums/tabid/82/forumid/116/scope/threads/Default.aspx
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Women behaving badly in the Media.
Gents? Ditto for media stories that we can simply index and place here.
http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/australia/Forums/tabid/82/forumid/115/scope/threads/Default.aspx
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I am going to collect stories on societal programming. If you read this story please check out the photograph and the eyes on the woman in the photograph. This is blatant conversational hypnosis. Something all men should learn about.
http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/australia/Forums/tabid/82/forumid/114/scope/threads/Default.aspx
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Misandry in the main stream media.
Nearly 2.5 years ago. November 2008. I started a site called Fair Laws in New South Wales. I placed it under construction and I started gathering the lies and misandry presented by the Sydney Morning Herald. My strategy at that time was to expose the SMH as a mouthpiece of the guvment to men in business and point out that their advertising dollars were being used to denigrate them to open up the debate on misandry and the courts.
I only realised at the beginning of 2009 that there was no need to expose the media to gain remedy so I stopped collecting these stories.
Now it is time to collect them again and to show them to men in NSW as to just how badly they are being demonised in the press. When all presented together these stories are much more powerful in communicating the hatred of men being programmed into society. I offer my little collection for men here to do with as they please.
I will be adding more stories now that all is out in the public.
http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/australia/Forums/tabid/82/forumid/112/scope/threads/Default.aspx
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“It’s going to be really funny watching all the wimminz running around like headless chicken”
That must be AFTER the nature of men changes.
I guarantee you, a women, not a man will be in the last house standing. Men wou die first.
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Ding! Ding! Ding!
The local news just ran a piece on this story which had a clip in it with The View’s Joy Behar saying “These guys are really out of control!”.
Anybody want to bet the word “these” will be dropped and forgotten when they get around to implementing their new and improved controls?
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@Jennifer
Two questions.
What brings you to the Spearhead?
Why should I believe your story?
Respectfully
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The people I have empathy for in the following order:
1. The children
2. The other woman’s husband
3. Maria Shriver
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Where I come from, one man impregnating two women at the same time is called trailer park or project twins.
Can you imagine the type of cold hearted cruel person Arnold and the other woman have to be to pull this off???
Imagine an ignorant Maria going to touch the other woman’s belly not knowing it was her husband’s child swimming inside.
I’m sure Arnold, what a jerk, was giving himself a high five mentally.
What a devious little witch the other woman had to be. Smiling in Maria’s face for 20 years knowing god darned well she screwed her husband.
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lession for all the fellas(and ladies reading)…
When a person tells or shows you who they are… believe them.*
If a person screws you over once… they’ll do it again.
Those words are from my wise grandmother BTW.
*Arnold had a history of getting around, Maria shouldn’t be so shocked but I understand how this still hurts her.
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Classic Joe wrote:
They still rely heavily on a fairly small percentage of men to get the hard work done. Where I am now there are a few guys who let themselves get taken advantage of bad by their female masters. these guys tend to have several kids and wives with no income so they’re stuck. They’re a dying breed, though. The ones I know are around 50 and there is nobody to replace them.
I’ve seen the same pattern. There are definitely going to be interesting times when the well runs dry and none of those guys are around anymore due to attrition or burnout.
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I feel bad for in order
1) The cuckolded husband (If this was me, I would grab my rifle and blow Arnold’s fucking head off and kill the cheating maid bitch, and the bastard child too).
2) Arnold’s legitimate children.
3) The bastard child.
I don’t feel bad for Shriver, mainly because I really don’t know what the internal workings of their relationship was.
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Gotta lurv this shiat.
Woeminz be victmiz.
Man be power fool.
Patriarchy roolz.
Matriarchy droolz.
GYOW and leave the lot of them to fark themselves.
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Shriver should be grateful she was even married in the first place — she is a militant feminist, an utterly worthless woman, undeserving of a man’s devotion.
Like a typically poor quality American woman, she demanded to be given, yet chose not to give much back in return.
Despite the opprobrium currently being heaped on Arnold, it is actually Shriver who is getting her comeuppance. Any husband married to a woman like her would have been justified in seeking other women outside his marriage.
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@Opus
Sir, I understand quite well what you ‘think’ an attorney’s responsibilities are – that all individuals deserve a full defense. And in the case of criminal acts, theft or arson (your examples), where the individual faces the accusation of ‘the state’ I would agree with you 100%. An individual facing accusation by an entity with virtually unlimited resources is entitled to any and all defense available.
However, as you note, ‘Family Law’ isn’t real law and the accuser is not the state. In fact family law courts are, by definition, kangaroo courts. To refresh your memory a kangaroo court is one where the outcome is predetermined and the proceedings are a mere facade. That is the essence of family law – which you have, at least in the past, been representative of the feminist position. To this you have admitted.
In the former case, you as an attorney have moral and philosophical obligation as an attorney. Not so in the latter where you have far more discretion and latitude. In fact, in the latter case you get to ‘choose’ whether or not to be a representative. And you have chosen to do so (follow the money).
If you were not a hypocrite and the words of your Pupil Master had any meaning for you, you wold be using your professional talents to challenge the system at every opportunity – which I find doubtful that you do or have done in the past.
You obviously have a bit of a classical education and you are bothered by the status quo. But, being in a position where you can make these arguments – yet do not – makes you a hypocrite (a label that apparently strikes a sour chord with you) and you should not be surprise when individuals such as myself are willing challenge you on the issue.
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DevilDog May 18, 2011 at 20:59
I feel bad for in order
1) The cuckolded husband (If this was me, I would grab my rifle and blow Arnold’s fucking head off and kill the cheating maid bitch, and the bastard child too).
2) Arnold’s legitimate children.
3) The bastard child.
I don’t feel bad for Shriver, mainly because I really don’t know what the internal workings of their relationship was.
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DevilDog, so you don’t feel bad for Shriver because you don’t know what the internal workings of their relationship was. Fair enough. But how then can you feel bad for the husband of the maid that cheated? You don’t know the internal workings of their relationship either do you? No you don’t. But you feel bad *first* (per your own pecking order) for the man in the relationship because what you care about is the man, not the fact that two marriages where broken and that two innocent people, Shriver and the other husband, where BOTH EQUALLY cheated on. It’s that assbackwards thinking that one form of cheating on men isn’t okay but it’s okay to cheat on women that does more harm to families and relationships between men and women then anything else. It’s not okay when men cheat. It’s not okay when women cheat. And the innocent partner that is cheated on isn’t responsible for the actions that ultimately the other spouse chooses to exercise.
Marriage vows are not dependent on the exsistance of Feminism or not. There is no where in marriage vows that say cheating isn’t okay unless one partner becomes a Feminist. So to rationalize that Shriver being cheated on was somehow “okay”, is really a step backwards for Men Right Movement followers that are looking for equality for all.
Further, while I feel for Shriver and what Arnold put her through, as a woman I don’t like seeing other women cheated on (and if some of the men here are honest enough with themselves they can admit they don’t like to see other men cheated on), the real issue here isn’t some misguided notion of feminism but the fact that Arnold not only broke his vows to his life partner, he utterly and disgustingly disrespected his children on both sides. They are the innocent parties that had no say in what was going on. They are the ones that didn’t sign up for a father figure that kept two familes because he couldn’t control his base desires.
If MRM members want to do something good for men, then hold men like Aronld accountable for their actions so that other men don’t abuse their familes, and yes, Arnold abused his family here, especially his kids, like Arnold did. Don’t make this story about feminism when you already have enough stories to talk about to fight feminism. This story requires men look inward at themselves and other men and hold each other accoutable for the lack of self control and leadership they run their families with. Or in Arnold’s case, don’t run their families in. Hold men like Arnold accountable for cheating their children out of a healthy strong male figure in their lives.
I read that Arnold’s son already changed his last name to Shriver. Can’t really blame the kid. When fathers have childern with other women, in teh very house of their mother, those aren’t exactly the actions that draw respect for men like Arnold now is it?
So lets do men a real favor. Lets hold men to a standard of fatherhood and husband hood that requires them to do the right thing. And when these men cheat their families out of a basic principal a family should have for the man in it, respect, then lets call them out on it. That’s the real story here. Arnold, a grown man with a fully function brain CHOOSING to cheat not only on his wife, but on his own children who he utterly disrespected because his desire to bed another woman was more important to him then the well being and safety of his OWN children.
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To: Sedulous
In the late 80s, I was 18 years old -at college and modeling on the side – I was hired by CBS morning news to model for a segment. Maria was an anchor there at the time. I first met Doctor Bob Arnot-who was the medical news corespondent for CBS. Then I met Maria and Arnold. I was invited to go to a ski house with them and another man named Charles Gaines who wrote Pumping Iron.
That was years ago, after that I would occasionally run into them and/or friends who were close to them and hear various gossip. A few years ago I dated a man who was a very close friend of Arnold’s and was invited to go on Arnold’s jet with him and my bf to the Concours d’Elegance. That was fun.
From the conversation and comments made by others one gets a sense that they had an arranged business marriage. However, I’m sure that with having children that changes things up a bit. Maria is hopefully feeling concerned about her children’s welfare. I do not know how she is really feeling about them. But so often I find these feminist women to be first about their career and second or third concerned about their children.
But they have to make it appear that they are the mother first.
The reality is that when a woman goes on a career track and competes with men in the business world their mind and concerns change yet they must act politically correct and play a phony game of still being a nurturing caring wife/mother. As a woman you can not be both. As a Feminist business woman everything becomes a calculated business move. –Even having children.
Btw–Arnold never made a pass at me but then I was never alone with him. But then again, looking at the women he chooses I’m not his type.
Why am I here –My mother is a high powered successful feminist democratic attorney. Mother of 5 children. My father is a successful businessman. And I am a victim of feminist thought and behavior . I saw through it at a young age. All my friends -male and female were buying into the feminist agenda. My mother was one of the early feminist lawyers. In high school most of my girlfriend’s moms were stay home house wives. I knew how messed up life was by having a stressed out working mother who had no time of us or my Dad. But none of my friends understood that. Everyone bought the lie that women can both work and be a totally dedicated mother, homemaker and wife–Ah NO! And all the men I met in college wanted lawyers and doctors or MBAs as wives! No one wanted a beautiful loving housewife and mother that can cook! Guys I met told me I needed to make at least $80,000 a year to be considered marriage material! Some anti-feminist -smart- girls went to law or business school just to get married. They pretended they were career oriented then after they got pregnant they never worked again! Years later many women I met told me they were not into being career women but that men had this fantasy of having a 2 income family and these men calculated that their future wife would work and have kids and that they would have this double income. But the women just stayed home once they had their first child and most of the men then accepted it and went into traditional situations. But because I understood that a generation ahead of my peers I knew that I could not do both so I opted out for just wife/mother. And was treated by men as if I was trying to take advantage of them! I was often passed over for much less attractive women by men who were more concerned with how much money their wife could potential bring in since she was at business school!
Then there were the girls -(and guys) who actually bought the feminist lie and tried to do both–like my mom. They worked like men –w/a fraction of the testosterone and aged before their time and went a bit crazy. Hormonally women can not take stress like men, they crack -up. It is subtle and gradual like alcoholism.
One man told me he originally bought into the feminist lie –married an MBA had two children and realized his wife could not do both jobs so he asked her to quit being a workaholic and be a nurturing wife /mother. But she could not or did not want to transition back to being a soft woman. They ended up getting a divorce.
Btw-finally I did meet a man who appreciates me– he understands that feminism is BS –and he looks forward to coming home to my dinners.
I teach self-esteem workshops to teenage girls advising them of the hidden dangers of feminist think.
As far as why the story came out I’m not so sure -I was just speculating there–
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“Hormonally women can not take stress like men, they crack -up. It is subtle and gradual like alcoholism.”
That’s medically false. I sincerally hope you don’t feed those girls false information about their own bodies.
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Feminism is destroying American nation or already has destroyed. American men turned to Chinese or other Asian women seeking common family values. Wake up, American men. Get your women back and make your babies…As a woman I should say that I would never respect a man who obey me like a slave… may be Maria is taught a good lesson. A man can build a new family at 59 and up. A woman can not….Feminism cannot change the nature. But a real loving woman can avoid a marriage distraction just being a woman not a soldier in the pants..
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To: Rainbows and Lollipops
Medical Fact: Men have more testosterone then women. Testosterone is a stress “cushion” for men.
Medical Fact: Over time in certain types of high stress situations women rely on their adrenals and thyroid and then their cortisol levels go up which in turn lowers or suppresses their immune system –often called burn out. A lowered immune system can lead to numerous health problems including increased risk for breast cancer.
Medical Fact: Career women have an increased risk for breast cancer.
Health problems increase stress which often cause psychological problems which can lead some women to take anti-depressants ( Medical fact twice as many American women are on anti-depressants as men)
Women can handle certain stressful situations–like a crying baby with dirty diapers. But when women try to be as strong as men and compete with men they often lose their health and then their minds.
Granted, there are always exceptions -but generally speaking.
And research clearly shows that career success does not make women genuinely as happy and fulfilled as career success does for men.
Women’s happiness and fulfillment is more contingent on having happy relationships with their family and friends.
Young girls are brainwashed into thinking if they strive for career success they will be happy and fulfilled.
Yes, I do teach girls this because I don’t want them to realize these pitfalls when they are 40 and burned out fighting for their life with breast cancer- no children and no husband because they have been a harpy bitch from stress trying to be a man!
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Jennifer
Thank you for your articulate and thoughtful answer.
I hope you understood my skepticism; one needs to be careful on the intertubes these days.
I have considered the possibility that Maria might have had something going on the side as well. It’s hard not to be cynical. If that’s true, then I’ll revise my position as needed. Who knows?? It’s safe to say the kids are victims at least. The thought of married couples throwing all morality to the wind, yet maintaining a “Family Values” facade for the public (voters) infuriates me.
“Hormonally women can not take stress like men, they crack -up. It is subtle and gradual like alcoholism.”
“I teach self-esteem workshops to teenage girls advising them of the hidden dangers of feminist think.”
Your information about testosterone, hormones and stress is interesting. I plan on doing more research along those lines. With documentation that would be valuable info for the manosphere. I encourage you write some more material along those lines and submit it Welmer for posting.
Thank you again Jennifer.
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Jennifer, your statement wasn’t that women’s physical health suffers because of stress. It was that women “can not take stress like men, they crack-up”. That’s patently false for most women. Every human being, man and women, encounter physical side affects from undue pressure and stress. Elevated blood pressure, weight gain, heart troubles, that depressed immune system response you mentioned,…and so on. These are human side affects that happen in both men and women; these are not just female side affects as you seem to suggest. You are really doing not just women, but men a disservice here by insinuating that the daily pressures men face should be better handled because they are men (have higher levels of testosterone) and therefore, by your own account, not sciences, handle stress better. When you refuse to acknowledge that stress is a big issue for men, and that’s not anything they should be ashamed about, you deny them the opportunity to acknowledge they have a problem for fear of being thought of as less then a man and seeking the medical help they need to combat stress issues and improve their own healthy.
Further, women and men might both deal with stress differently and be affected by different stresses sometimes, but both men and women still experience physical negative side affects to stress. It’s actually been studied that when it comes to men, they will either stay and fight out the stresser or leave and run away from it. They call this the “fight or flight” response. With women, they tend to “tend and befriend” as a response to stress. And it’s thought that women developed this “tend and befriend” response to counter a male’s response to either “fight or flight”. Not exactly the bat shit crazy theory you are attempting to falsely peddle that women eventually turn into.
Lets look at your comments:
“Medical Fact: Men have more testosterone then women. Testosterone is a stress “cushion” for men.”
Actually, testosterone, can actually cause men more stress. It’s no big secret that testosterone can produce aggressive hostile emotions or make men more the risk taker elevating their adrenaline which spikes blood pressure. Further, since men are less inclined to talk about their feelings they are less likely to seek help for the feelings they might be having. They also have less outlets unlike women that tend to lean on each other for support in times of stress.
“Medical Fact: Over time in certain types of high stress situations women rely on their adrenals and thyroid and then their cortisol levels go up which in turn lowers or suppresses their immune system –often called burn out. A lowered immune system can lead to numerous health problems including increased risk for breast cancer.”
Similar things happen within a man’s body that encounters too much stress. Break down in immune systems and high blood pressure or cancer are not only applicable toward women. And holding on to that theory only does men a disservice. I do not disagree that women physically suffer from undue amounts of stress. That is very much true. But that’s a far cry from your initial comment that women go “crazy”.
Medical Fact: Career women have an increased risk for breast cancer.?Health problems increase stress which often cause psychological problems which can lead some women to take anti-depressants ( Medical fact twice as many American women are on anti-depressants as men).
Higher rates of depression in women are more attributed to the hormonal response of women during their child baring years. Young boys and girls pretty much maintain the same level of happiness in their youth but when girls begin going through puberty and their bodies are flooded with hormones, they are more susceptible to feelings of depression. This usually carries on through a girl/woman’s remaining child bearing years when they go through their cycle.
Men are less likely to seek help for medical conditions or even be in touch enough with their emotions to pinpoint their depression or seek out medical health because they usually want to handle everything on their own. But if we encourage men to realize that they too can face these issues, we can encourage them to seek the medical help they need. If we encourage men that seeking medical health isn’t a weakness, but a strength, we do alot to help the men in our lives.
Further, career women have a higher risk of breast cancer because when they delay having children and then decide to have them, there are hormonal changes caused by the child baring that affects them. But it doesn’t have to do with the fact that they have a career that they can’t handle. It’s the fact that hormones affect their bodies.
“Women can handle certain stressful situations–like a crying baby with dirty diapers. But when women try to be as strong as men and compete with men they often lose their health and then their minds. Granted, there are always exceptions -but generally speaking.”
Actually, women are equipped to handle more then a crying baby and dirty diaper. Because they were once the only ones around to protect the babies from a possible outside threat when their men were out hunting or tending to other daily tasks. But please, I challenge you to find one “fact” that says that the only level of stress women can handle are crying babies and dirty diapers.
?“And research clearly shows that career success does not make women genuinely as happy and fulfilled as career success does for men.?Women’s happiness and fulfillment is more contingent on having happy relationships with their family and friends.”
I certainly agree that women feel happier when their relationships are healthy and strong. But I think that extends beyond just family and friends into their ability to have health work relationships as well that go beyond just socializing. While many women are quite happy to stay at home and raise children, and there is nothing wrong with that; and we should say that’s an options, claiming that this is the only way women find happiness is just as bad as claiming that they find happiness through a career. What we should be teaching girls is that they have a choice but they will have to make sacrifices depending on what is most important to them. For some that means having a career, for other’s it doesn’t. For some it’s still going to mean having both and giving up other things for both their family and career. Like an active social life. There are a number of families where the wife works and the father stays home with the kids and they are quite happy. The father gets to spend time with his children and the wife is happy to have a career. And these parents don’t love their children or each other any less then more traditional roles.
?“Young girls are brainwashed into thinking if they strive for career success they will be happy and fulfilled.”
Sometimes they are. Just as young boys are brainwashed in thinking something is wrong with them if they want to be nurturing fathers. Gender roles aren’t easy. But you aren’t going to do those girls an any better service by telling them they must fit into your personal view of what they should be. Instead, you should be teaching them that they will have choice to make and sometimes we can’t all have it all. That there is nothing wrong with wanting a career and that there is nothing wrong with wanting a family but be aware that having both is a difficult road.
?“Yes, I do teach girls this because I don’t want them to realize these pitfalls when they are 40 and burned out fighting for their life with breast cancer- no children and no husband because they have been a harpy bitch from stress trying to be a man!”
Again, the breast cancer usually becomes more susceptible to women that put off having children and then have them later in life. It’s not because of stress from work.
Being realistic that both women and men suffer negative health issues from undue stress is one thing. Preaching that women go “crazy” because if it is an outright lie. And the deservice to men that you are doing is equally harmful.
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To: Rainbows and Lollipops
First, I never said men do not also have stress and I said nothing about trying to suppress or hurt men from dealing with their stress–you were just taking the subject off point to find something to harp on.
Next, I do not have the time or patience to educate you on the differences in men and women’s ability to handle stress and that there are different types of stress that men because of being men with different bodies, wiring and hormones etc handle certain types of stress better then women and women handle other types better. I recommend you take Alison Armstrong’s classes to learn more if you are truly interested. She is a researcher of men and you will find studies and information from her 6 week program that you will not find on the web or in any book as they are exclusive to her program but they will show you that men and women are different and help explain some of the concepts I offer here. And you will walk away with more understanding and respect for men. (I took all her classes)
Also Dr. Oz also confirms my statements. You should consider taking his workshops.–I did.
As for what I “should” teach girls— our society is overwhelmingly brainwashing girls that their only option is to be a career feminist man eating bitch. So I am giving girls the 411 on the down side of that and the positive side of being a sweet, grounded, chase and supportive feminine woman/wife.
I have been teaching girls for 20 years. I am a national awarding winning teacher. I get hired to travel all over the country to do workshops and now I am being hired to teach in China! Parents love me and tell me that I saved their daughter’s life and helped her to believe in herself and stand on her convictions even when its against the crowd.
Ah–I don’t think I will change my curriculum for you-
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“First, I never said men do not also have stress….”
And I never said you said men didn’t have stress.
This game is fun. Let’s play it some more!
“and I said nothing about trying to suppress or hurt men from dealing with their stress…”
You set up the stereotype that men should be better dealing and handling their stress and if they aren’t, then they are some how lacking in a definition of masculinity.
“..you were just taking the subject off point to find something to harp on.”
Was that before or after I indivdually addressed each one of your points.
“Next, I do not have the time or patience to educate you on the differences in men and women’s ability to handle stress..”
Translation: Damn, her shit is too good for me to find a rebuttle on even though I really hate this bitch.
“.. men and women are different..”
We totally are. Amen.
“And you will walk away with more understanding and respect for men.”
I already have an understanding and respect for men. And I have no doubt in my mind that you do as well. I however do think you do men a desservice with some of your pigeon holes. Pop culture science is about fragments of information and I think it does more harm then good in understanding men and women.
“Also Dr. Oz also confirms my statements. You should consider taking his workshops.–I did.”
Oprah’s Dr. Oz!
“As for what I “should” teach girls— our society is overwhelmingly brainwashing girls that their only option is to be a career feminist man eating bitch. So I am giving girls the 411 on the down side of that and the positive side of being a sweet, grounded, chase and supportive feminine woman/wife.”
I think our society does alot of harm to girls and boys. But not because it’s teaching them to be career feminist man eating bitches. Because it’s teaching them that they need to BOTH have a career and a family and if they can’t accomplish either, they are less then a woman. A more grounded and even approach would to teach girls they have options. But these options will require sacrifice. Some girls are going to want careers. Some are going to want families. And neither should make a woman less.
“Parents love me..”
Is that before or after you tell their daughters they should smile and suck dick?
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Woops..i posted that before I got a chance to finish. Jennifer, I think it’s great that you are doing things like teaching girls that it’s okay to be sweet and nice and everything spice. But we aren’t helping girls by putting them in one pigeon hole for another. They don’t have to be the bitch feminist and they don’t have to be a wife or mother either to be a woman. But if they do want to be those things, then they should be free to be them. Wife, mother, girlfriend, single girl, lesbian…these do not define us. Are ability to true to ourselves and treat others with respect does.
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Why is she always called maria Schriver? Isn’t she supposed to be called mrs Schwarzeneger? Did she choose not to take her husbands last name? Why?
The bastard is the son that changed his surname to her mother’s maiden name.
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To Rebel
Thank you so much for asking for my opinion. I am truly honored.
I have been working on a reply to your questions….
Its complicated but I will reply as soon as I can
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We have a new Terminator movie, Terminator: Love Child. A scene from this movie is
Arnold as Terminator: I am your father
Terminator Love Child: Hasta la vista, Daddy (fires weapon)
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