How the Liberated Feminist Slut Created the Pick-Up Artist

by Delusion Damage on April 21, 2011

I’ve written before about women’s sexual “liberation” and how Game provides similar “liberation” to men. What I didn’t get around to discussing is that Game is in fact a direct result of said women’s liberation. The feminists themselves have created the pick-up artists and players they are now so fond of despising.

Back in the “good old days”, people got married. If they didn’t get married, they by and large didn’t have sex either. This applied equally to men and women. Infamous womanizers in those days were not looked upon kindly by society at large. For a bunch of them to get together to exchange tips and tricks for bedding women faster would hardly have been publicly tolerated. “Players” of the time, like the eponymous Giacomo Casanova, largely made their trade by seducing unsuspecting damsels with promises of marriage and then absconding into the night before their fathers found out. It was a dangerous Game back then.

Then came feminism and women’s “liberation” – these women, for some reason, felt that the old rules were not so much for their own protection as for the sick enjoyment of evil patriarchs who got off on oppressing women by making them submit to possessive patriarchal desires. A discussion of those claims will not be included in this article, because, frankly, I like to spend my time discussing things that make sense. In any case, these women wanted the freedom to have sex with anyone and everyone with impunity, and the evil patriarchs, being the sadistic bastards they are, gave the women exactly what they wanted.

Now, it was okay for a woman to be as big a slut as she liked, and consequently, it was also okay for a man to sleep with one without any designs for marriage. This opened the field for unapologetically professional players. Those men who found the lifestyle of a serial conqueror alluring could now practice their craft with impunity, and “liberated” women were available in ample supply to give them all the practice they wanted.

Now, “The Game” was truly born. Regular Joes could avail themselves of the practically inexhaustible slut supply of their home cities without having to run from shotgun-wielding fathers while doing their day jobs on the side. Players’ reputations could spread, and they could find each other and network, and no one had anything to say to that. The “seduction community” was formed.

Wherever information gathers, innovation will flourish and scientific progress will accelerate. So, too, in the seduction community – it didn’t take long before its pooled talents had distilled the process of getting into a girl’s pants into very pure and very effective forms. Armed with unprecedented tactical knowledge, players of a new breed never before seen flowed forth into the streets, bars, nightclubs and grocery stores.

Before the new breed of trained players, women were rendered powerless. The sluts and the shy girls alike fell before the might of the industrially optimized players – right onto their beds with their Birkenstocks in the air.

Women are slowly starting to wake up to the fact that it’s getting difficult to secure commitment from men any more. Not all of them are ready to face the fact that giving the milk away for free isn’t the greatest way to sell the cow, and even those who face facts can do little about the abundance of free milk available to any man willing to learn Game.

What women really ought to do if they want to make men commit again is push for the reversal of their original “liberation”, but I’m not holding my breath for that one. What they are doing instead is further shooting their own gender in the foot with dating advice that’ll guarantee a lonely cat-filled future.

The feminists made their bed, and now their daughters lie in it with men who won’t remember their faces a month and ten more girls later.

Oh, and if any of the women I refer to as “sluts” here take offense, it’s wholly unjustified, because – haven’t you heard? – “slut” is now an empowering, positive term!

Delusion Damage specializes in exploring the hidden causes of everything and figuring out how to make a lifetime as a man in the modern world the best it can possibly be.

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scot April 21, 2011 at 12:37

It is the great hope of the “American Eunuch male” to believe that all women are gentle, rational, and benevolent beings; and all heterosexual males are bad, selfish, narcissistic, violent, ect, ect.
But this fantasy world of the American eunuch, can only manifest itself with the help and perversion of American law enforcement, who refuse to hold women accountable for their violence, so as to leave no paper trail of womens violence.
But folks, many women love blood, and violence, And the most violent women know they can fill their appetites for violence by making the “He raped Me” accusation, the accusation of which in the world of the “violent matriarchal underclass”…is the kiss of death to whoever she targets.

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HPX April 21, 2011 at 12:38

I think, possibly, this was the best thing I ever read. At least, very close to it. Now I’m no “prude”, nor am I against people living their lives the way they want – but clearly you cannot be a promiscous self-proclaimed “free spirit” and a traditional good-mannered marrying kind simultaneously.

Yet, somehow, we are expected to treat the former like the latter. I have, reluctantly, spent some time in my younger years “playing the game”. Never very committed to, nor good at it, but society had me thinking I should at least try. I try not to think about it too much, because it really has me deeply ashamed of what my ideals were back then. At least, nowadays, I understand how society is supposed to work, and why it doesn’t.

Is it okay to reproduce any part of the above with a link to this site?

Regards,

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Anonymous Reader April 21, 2011 at 12:51

You left out two important details, one technological, the other legal.

First, the invention of reliable means of birth control. Because even now, single mothers are not likely to get a commitment. Absent the birth control pill, IUD’s or even the old fashioned diaphragm, women’s hypergamy would lead to a lot of preggers. Although in ancient times that did not slow them down, because of:

Second, the legalization of abortion pretty much on demand in many Anglosphere countries.

Prior to the 1960′s, reliable birth control was very hard to come by, abortions were illegal and dangerous. The Pill followed by Roe (US court decision legalizing abortion) made it possible for women of fertile years to screw like bunnies and not get knocked up. Thus they were free to pursue the ever elusive Alphas, riding that carousel.

Technology has freed more women than feminism. Between the small electric motors that make washing machines, dishwashers, vacuum cleaners, etc. possible and reliable birth control, technology has freed women from many of the things that in the past held them back.

And we see what they have done with their freedom…

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Wulf April 21, 2011 at 13:17

If one want sexual liberation, one must throw out concepts such as loyalty, chastity and integrity. The feminists have done so.

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Joe Zamboni April 21, 2011 at 13:20

*** Feminism is Now in a Bubble ***
=====================
What women get from hetero men in committed relationship is way way more than what men get from women in a similar type of relationship. Let’s just tell the truth about this. Consider the male is the provider, gives alimony, hands over child support, has to pay for the diamond ring, etc., while the female gets special government programs for single mothers, handouts for going back to school, etc. The ability of women to get all these goodies is very much contingent on getting a commitment (most often marriage). This is one reason why women push so much to get a commitment from men. Of course they use other alleged motivations, such as their alleged insecurity and jealousy (not to say that those factors aren’t also there).

But it’s time that we acknowledged that feminism has caused a bubble in the disproportionate allocation of benefits of commitment in hetero relationships. Women are getting way more than they are giving, and this can’t go on. So Game yanks the commitment leverage that women have out of the equation, and if Game is used, women have very little leverage to get all those goodies (of course there is still child support, so mind your birth control). But the power of “what people think” (social control) and morality, those are going away, or in fact gone, so men should really start popping the bubble, and start refusing to commit. In the process they will find that they are getting a lot more of the goodies that had gone disproportionately to women.

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Rick James April 21, 2011 at 13:20

Most so-called “patriarchs” today are really the most whipped of pet husbands. Women will feign submission, and stroke the male ego, while actually running the show within the household. That’s what “patriarchal” gurus like Doug Wilson, Doug Phillips, and R.C. Sproul Jr. don’t want you to know.

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AfOR April 21, 2011 at 13:47

I’m afraid your basic premise is flawed.

until very recently in western society prostitution was *extremely* common, every inn had them, and it was also *extremely* cheap… think ten bucks tops in today’s money.

prostitution was an accepted way for women without a dowry to find a husband, and for unmarried mothers to support themselves.

*EVERY* town and city in England has a Grape Street, which was renamed by the Victorians from Gropecunt St, which is where the whore mainly were.

This “sex was never available to me in olden days” thing is one more feminazi lie / redaction of historical fact.

Sex has never been less available to men than in the 20th century.

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Denis April 21, 2011 at 13:58

Got lemons? Make lemonade!
That’s where game and men’s sexual liberation comes into play.

We didn’t create the world we’re living in, we’re just trying to survive and still have some relationships with women. Sure, you can try to pretend to be a moral titan and go ghost or poo-poo on game, but it’s really not a very good option and all others are worse.

vasectomy+condoms+no marriage+no cohabitation.

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Denis April 21, 2011 at 13:59

Got lemons? Make lemonade!
That’s where game and men’s sexual liberation comes into play.

We didn’t create the world we’re living in, we’re just trying to survive and still have some relationships with women. Sure, you can try to pretend to be a moral titan and go ghost or poo-poo on game, but it’s really not a very good option and all others are worse.

vasectomy+condoms+no marriage+no cohabitation.

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Troll King April 21, 2011 at 14:09

Sex and sexual allure and innocence are the two main powers women have over men. Anything that will give men more power or bargaining ability against women will be heavily despised by feminists. This is why they hate PUA. They hate it.

Great article.

One thing that really makes me smile is when I see women go on and on about pick up and how evil it is, it becomes obvious to me that they are really upset about men knowing more about how they operate than they do themselves.

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Curious April 21, 2011 at 14:32

The terms Alpha and Beta sound like upper middle class female psycho-babble.

Who cooked up those terms any way?

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Lovekraft April 21, 2011 at 14:41

I really think that a lot of guys are kidding themselves when they buy into the whole ‘lets pump and dump them’ and, no, I am not saying this is the premise of the article.

Just that for many men, deep down, they are honorable and do want a loving, stable relationship, just that facing feminism’s poison and trying to de-condition the woman from it becomes unbelievably difficult. Seems the more we pin feminism down, the more elusive it becomes. Women are very adaptable and know how to manipulate men. One day he thinks he’s king of the castle, the next she has pulled the floor out from under him.

Sadly, many men just give up, go MGTOW, go on marriage strike, but the reminders are everywhere. The trick is to develop a solid internal strength, a way of looking at the world beyond the appearances, so that even though one longs for affection, one is also able to do without it until the right person comes along (which may be never).

I think this article helps take another swipe at the cult of Feminism by showing its logical conclusion, to its credit. But there’s so many ways to do this, and sometimes the solution is to ignore it completely and set out our demands.

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Evil Penis April 21, 2011 at 14:45

With all of the cats that will be roaming around in the near future, my biggest fear is for the other urban wildlife that will suffer.

Another positive aspect of feminism…

It’s an environmental disaster!

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greyghost April 21, 2011 at 14:46

I love the idea of game. It took me a while to figure out why it was so great a concept. I started in the MRA scene thinking I could make changes to traditional marriage making it more reasonable. A couple years later I see no way that is going to happen. Any change that will come will be for my pre K son or so in that age range. Now back to Game. It is the perfect tool to accompany MGTOW. While game gets them out of thoses panties. MGTOW get its them to change the law in the way we tell them. All done in childish self interest of course.
Man if I could just invent a male birth control pill to round out all of this male education and survival techniques study. Any bio engineers in the house.

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SingleDad April 21, 2011 at 14:55

@AfOR

After having traveled a bit, I totally agree with you. Consensual sex with benefits is legal in most of the world still. It is only in the last 100 years or so that it is illegal in the west.

The first move Female Imperialists made in their war on men. They made sure they had a monopoly.

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greyghost April 21, 2011 at 14:59

Lovekraft You are dead on the money with your comment at 14:41. Men do want a stable relationship. Also you don’t pin femminism down can’t be done. And no man older than 7 or 8 well find a woman worthy of mans love. What we can do is make a world that such a women will behave as a women deserving of a mans love in her self interest. What we see today as femminist women is what women are and have always been. My purpose in life is to make a world that a woman being self centered hamster in top condition is someone my son will happily love without having to be brain washed with lies.

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Herbal Essence April 21, 2011 at 15:25

I think this is missing a very important point. Women are also slutty because they can afford it economically. Due to massive wealth redistribution from productive males and hiring quotas. They can afford to spend years chasing alphas who won’t commit rather than “settling” for a male who is actually at a comparable SMV (sexual market value) to them.

Also, shout out to AfOR’s comment above about the limits on prostitution.

The Pussy Cartel, I mean Feminism, (along with birth control options) liberated female hypergamy and offered a feast to Alphas while greatly reducing the average man’s options. Average Women, who once would have been dating/married to Average Men in her youth, got to be hollowed out by Alphas until she had her fill. Then she could settle down with an affection-starved Average Man who’s just happy to have someone.

Game and MGTOW throw two wrenches in the Pussy Cartel’s scheme.

Knowledge of Game makes an Average Man more competitive in the marketplace. He can be more choosy, he’s probably not a White Knight/Mangina, and he’s not likely to “settle” for a reformed slut. Thereby denying lots of women a soft landing after her carousel days are over. A man who knows some Game will also tell his male friends about it.

MGTOW avoid women as much as possible, and most know at least some Game. They will probably never get married, at least to a Western woman. They are not White Knights and Manginas. They are a sterling example to other men. They are giving the Pussy Cartel the middle finger, and women hate it. That’s why the Pussy Cartel, especially the Christian Pussy Cartel of traditional women, shame MGTOWers even more than they do players.

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Loki April 21, 2011 at 15:31

The following is from a blog that no longer exists:

Your wife/girlfriend will never really love you. At least not in the same sense that you love her. She may love your children, her parents and your pets, but she will never really love YOU.

Numerous studies have shown that men experience deeper feelings and emotions than women. This is why men are loyal, why they swear oaths on their lives and why a man will jump in front of a truck sacrificing his life for his family. 90% of women are not self-less and do not practice self-sacrifice, well honeybees do, but they aren’t exactly human.

Your SO basis her sole feelings towards you on interest level. When her interest level in you is high, she will do anything for you. As it begins to waiver she will nag, cut off sex and just flat out disrespect or even cheat on you. When a man loves his SO, his friends or anyone else, small things do not end the relationship. Men fight each other and then have a beer afterwards. You don’t part from someone you really love. You aren’t disloyal to them either. This is why male friendships are so strong and female ones are so weak. It stems from a woman’s inability to have love for things other than their own flesh and blood and furry creatures.

So you got that? It’s all interest level. Interest level high=successful marriage, interest level low=unsuccessful marriage.

So how is that love? Till death do us part is love, yet women file for divorce more than 2/3 of the time. Interest level is not love, but this is the way the female psyche operates. This is why the NICE GUYS FINISH LAST, since being nice doesn’t raise interest level and is not a male strength quality.

Once you can accept this FACT as a man, you are on your way to understanding women and what you can do to help yourself in the future.

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epoche* April 21, 2011 at 15:38

You can have paid sex with a hot 18-21 year old in the next 24 hours if you use reasonable precautions you would never be arrested or robbed. I am not interested in game because I think it represents giving into the cultural marxists and trying to play by their rules. I feel as though if you earn a decent income/ have a decent job, are in decent shape, have a good sense of humor, know how to fix things (cars/stuff around the house), have decent social skills such as learn to dance somewhat, know somethign about poker, know something about drugs/alcohol/cooking, etc etc – then you should be able to get anyone that is worth getting.
If you need to meet attractive girls then get a job in a restaurant/bar or enroll in an lpn program and you should have no problem meeting them. I dont like the idea of game because it is symbolic of cultural regression not because I dont think roissy is devilishly clever (which he is). If you wanted to take game far enough you can give girls a “taste” of your cocaine and buy lidocaine off the internet. Usually women are too drunk at the end of the night to know the difference or you could buy replica kruggerands off the internet and tell a girl you were a drug dealer and have no way to launder the money. Is this really the kind of life I want to live though?

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Paradoxotaur April 21, 2011 at 15:41

@AfOR: “This “sex was never available to me in olden days” thing is one more feminazi lie / redaction of historical fact.”

Absolutely. As I documented in a prior thread, the cost of hiring a prostitute in London not all that long ago was about the same as the cost of a premium draft beer.

Similarly for American men, not all that long ago. “In 1864 there were 450 brothels in Washington, and over 75 brothels in nearby Alexandria, Virginia. A newspaper estimated there were 5000 public women in the District and another 2500 in Alexandria and Georgetown, bringing the total to 7500 by the war’s third year” {Clinton, Catherine (1999). Public Women and the Confederacy. Marquette University Press}. And, in one instance “the perpetrator [of solicitation] spent a month at the guardhouse for offering a mother a dollar and her daughter three dollars for sex.” Thumbnail calculation: 7,500 public women x 5 clients/day x 21 days/mo = ~3/4 million commercial f’cks/mo in a fairly small geographical area.

As someone else once noted- a slut isn’t really a problem . . . unless you’re stupid enough to marry her.

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Omnipitron April 21, 2011 at 15:51

“What we can do is make a world that such a women will behave as a women deserving of a mans love in her self interest. What we see today as femminist women is what women are and have always been.”

Hit the nail on the head Greyghost. What we are seeing here is Maslow’s Hierarchy of needs in action. Women didn’t ‘step out of turn’ because doing so would negate much of their sought after security in life. In the past, we all know that without a man’s support, her life quality would be…below acceptable. Thanks to Government support, the very important need women require, security, has been, and for the time being, will continue to be met. What does it matter if her bedpost notches resemble a cribbage board, how is that going to affect her negatively?

Essentially, what does it matter if she makes a man happy, she will get what she wants regardless, right?

If she can’t find a man, there is always social assistance, and due to media propaganda, womyn don’t need men anyway, right? While some may believe in the Misandry Bubble and others do not, count on this one thing fellas, when the average woman’s security level begins to falter, and her way of life is no longer guaranteed as it is now, that is when the grumbling will begin.

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Uncle Elmer April 21, 2011 at 16:43

You are wrong, Grasshoppers. “Game” has been around forever.

Larry : “Do you think we can find him a wife in time?”

Moe : “Are you kidding? When Shemp turns on the charm no dame can resist him!”

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) April 21, 2011 at 17:24

OT.
Welmer. You called for men to tell their stories. Well? Here you go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZE9rlj6rK4

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Troll King April 21, 2011 at 17:36

So right Uncle Elmer.

The more I read about these issues and some history the more I realize game has been around forever.

Every new generation thinks they invent sex and rebellion and music, which is kinda true with music I think.

Every generation has mothers and fathers(white knights) trying to guard and protect their daughters from ‘bad boys’ (players) while lowering the sexual value of their sons (turning them into nice guys) which then raises the sexual value of the players.

It most be the greatest con ever created. Mothers control the fathers, using them as human shields and security forces, and groom the sons(about 80-90% of them) to be future beta providers while their daughters get the sex from the players/alphas and then marry the providers who actually run the economy and build civilization. Some betas may move to the top of the list and gain status or power but most players are born at or towards the top of their respect social markets. (IE the biggest gangster or thug in the lower class garners more pussy than the lowest and what girl doesn’t want to marry into a wealthy class and become a princess? The story is as old as time itself)

The problem is technology and the flow of information. We are approaching the singularity. Before men were clustered and separated and even if they could share this info there were social norms and mores that stopped them (think about how you don’t say certain things in polite company or around women). With every great advancement in communication there has been some sort of major social unrest and usually war. Today I can access more info on a smart phone than a president had available to them a few decades ago.

I don’t know how this will play out but I think it is a good thing that men from all walks of life and do a few simple internet searches and find this info on their Iphone.

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Troll King April 21, 2011 at 17:57

Wow, just wow…this is off topic but this is a prime example of why NO MAN should marry a western woman.

http://evebitfirst.wordpress.com/2011/04/21/evolution-of-a-feminist/

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) April 21, 2011 at 18:03

OT….as a full video it fails on my download….so this is the same in three parts.

http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/australia/Forums/tabid/82/forumid/104/threadid/292/scope/posts/Default.aspx

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TFH April 21, 2011 at 18:04

DelDamage,

Great articulation of the big picture.

However, one section you may want to add is how the next logical outcome is for women drift into being members of unofficial harems. Since women would rather have 25% of an alpha male rather than 100% of a beta male, feminism leads to harems (how’s that for a sentence that will make feminists even angrier?).

In response to this, less attractive women grant their votes to the state in exchange for the state acting prevent any possibility of a beta male ‘tricking’ a woman into having sex with him, or paying a crushing cost if he does. False rape accusations, increasingly oppressive alimony/childimony laws, expanding VAWA legislation to include ‘raising his voice’ as a crime worthy of imprisonment. I can’t see how 3-4 generations of women having voting rights can lead to any other outcome….

This is the next logical section of your article, which then leads to an endgame.

Only one of two endgames are possible given the realities (or some combination of these two) :

a) Islam making major inroads into the West (since two-thirds of Western converts to Islam are women even now).
b) 3-D/VR sex leading to most women (i.e. those below an 8) being impoverished, marginalized, and lonely.

Some combination of a+b is the future….

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TFH April 21, 2011 at 18:06

*those below an 8.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) April 21, 2011 at 18:17

Troll King April 21, 2011 at 17:57

Yep..complete nutter…I see TFH got in before me.

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Avenger April 21, 2011 at 18:28

Don’t dress like a slut: Toronto cop

Raymond Kwan
Senior Staff

Students and staff at Osgoode Hall Law School are demanding an apology and explanation from the Toronto Police Service after one of their officers suggested women can avoid sexual assault by not dressing like a “slut.”

On Jan. 24, a campus safety information session was held at Osgoode Hall, where members from York security and two male officers from Toronto police 31 Division handed out safety tips to community
members.

Ronda Bessner, who attended the session, remembered being surprised by what the officer suggested to women.

“One of the safety tips was for women not to dress like ‘sluts.’ He said something like, ‘I’ve been told I shouldn’t say this,’ and then he uttered the words,” said Bessner, Osgoode assistant dean of the Juris Doctor Program. “I was shocked and appalled. I made contact with the police [...] and we’ve asked for a written apology and an explanation.”

YFS vice-president Darkshika Selvasivam, who did not attend the session, also expressed shock upon hearing the comments.

“I’m appalled by the comment that the police officer has made saying that women should avoid dressing like sluts, and I think it goes to show the inherent misogyny and lack of education,” said Selvasivam, York Federation of Students (YFS) executive.

“I think the officer should be very seriously reprimanded for the comment.”

After the session, Bessner spoke with students and student organizations and noted they, too, expressed concerns about the comment. Bessner proceeded to call 31 Division to demand an apology and explanation.

“Initially it was a call, and the officer said he would get back to me right away. A couple of days had lapsed, so I sent a letter,” she said.

Toronto police spokesperson Constable Wendy Drummond confirmed the incident has been brought to the attention of senior officials and is currently under investigation.

“[This is] definitely something that we take very seriously. This matter [...] has been brought to the attention of our professional standards unit and is something we will be looking into,” she said.

However, she could not confirm whether Toronto police intend to issue an official apology.

“We are of the position that if these comments were made, it is definitely something that we will [act on],” she added.

Bessner said she has yet to receive an official apology from the officer. She has also spoken to York security and noted that they were also upset by the comments.

“We have a good relationship with the Toronto Police Service and work collaboratively with them,” said Janice Walls, York spokesperson. “However, we were very surprised and shocked by the comment that was made and we certainly don’t agree with it.”

Bessner argued that such comments make it difficult for victims dealing with sexual assault because they make them feel uncomfortable going to the police for help.

“I think the problem with the constable’s conduct was that he was blaming the victim,” she said. “He’s also not making victims feel safe to go to the police. It’s quite astounding that in 2011 that you hear comments like that from a professional.”

Bessner stressed the importance of officers having proper knowledge about sexual assault cases.

“I think it’s really important that the police [...] receive appropriate training on sexual assault, so that statements like this are never made and that they understand the dynamics of sexual assault.”

Related articles:

Cop’s “slut” comment draws backlash from guerrilla activists

SlutWalk Toronto: April 3, 2011

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TFH April 21, 2011 at 18:29

Joe Zamboni,

But it’s time that we acknowledged that feminism has caused a bubble

Dude, you must be new. It was called a bubble on 1/1/2020 :

http://www.singularity2050.com/the-misandry-bubble/

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TFH April 21, 2011 at 18:29

*1/1/2010, as in almost 16 months ago.

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Robert April 21, 2011 at 18:38

Anonymous Reader April 21, 2011 at 12:51

“And we see what they have done with their freedom…”

And what happened to our (US Men’s) freedom.

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Loki April 21, 2011 at 18:42

@ Troll King April 21, 2011 at 17:57

I read that bizarre “Evolution of a Feminist” at your link, and I started to wonder how many women now have minds that could create such a narrative.

She even surpasses the types of women about whom Dr. Palmatier (www[]shrink4men[]com) warns men.

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codebuster April 21, 2011 at 18:50

My recent comment on the guns and sluts thread also applies here. One part of the solution to curing the slut problem is to remove affirmative action.

The old transaction was that men provide and women, in the fulfilment of their role as primary nurturer, are provided-for. Of course with AA, this transaction has been neutered, and in the resulting “equality”, a woman’s sexual history is no longer a part of the equation. More importantly, with men castrated with respect to the most significant thing (career) that defines their identity, men’s views no longer matter. And so AA also means that women are free to slut it without consequence because they have no-one to impress. They don’t care what neutered chumps think of them. Would you?

Outlaw affirmative action as state-sponsored sexism against men, to reengage free market principles, and men will have value again. Now that’s not going to stop chumps from making dumb choices. So men are still also a part of the problem. But I think that eliminating AA is quite a significant part of the solution to the slut problem.

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Joe Zamboni April 21, 2011 at 19:01

TFH –

I am not claiming to be the inventor of the term “bubble.” I was drawing an analogy with an economic bubble, a speculative mania (feminism in this case). In a bubble, the price paid (in this case by men) is considerably at variance with the intrinsic value of the goods or services received (in this case by men). A very large percentage of the men I know have no idea they are getting a bad deal when they marry, although many later come to know this truth through the school of hard knocks. In order to protect ourselves as men, from the coming bubble bursting, and the desperate attempt of women to try to regain power and supremacy, we may need to change our relationship portfolio with women (get divorced, break up monogamous relationship, etc.). I was exploring what it meant to protect ourselves in the midst of a bubble.

I am certainly familiar with The Futurist, and am a fan of his material. What he is saying is consistent with my post above. He goes into other bubbles such as the government bubble. I am only talking about a simple supply and demand equation, and what that means for the ways that men relate to women.

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blert April 21, 2011 at 19:41

AfOR

The traditional euphemism for whore’s alley was ‘Maiden Lane.’

The traditional euphemism for whore’s village was ‘Angels Camp.’

You’ll find Angels Camps all over the California gold strike — even an Angels Island out in the bay — and yes it was a whore’s island.

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York abuts Maiden Lane.

How appropriate… Both are cash based deposit taking professions.

That Maiden Lane is hard upon the financial district is telling.

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Seamus the Classicist April 21, 2011 at 19:41

Something I learned from my fight training and experience, “do not play your opponent’s game!” By doing so you accept their premises of wininng and deefeat. If they are good wrestler, box them; if they are a good boxer and wrestler, kick them; if they are good at kicking and boxing wrestling them; if they are solid all around fighter, prepare for a long fight….etc.

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demirogue April 21, 2011 at 19:43

“Outlaw affirmative action as state-sponsored sexism against men, to reengage free market principles, and men will have value again. ”

You need not worry. As inflation creeps up even those women employed will see their purchasing and pussy values decrease. Case in point is how I’m seeing these women out there with high horsepower Camaros and Mustangs as more than likely their only cars. Flash, flash, and more flash.

When gas is creeping up ever more with its effects on others items as well, you’ll start to see plenty of them defaulting left and right. Only a fool thinks these chicas aren’t in debt up to their eyeballs hence while they’ll be even more desperate to find someone to share the bills with. Your priority as men now is to give the finger and not even in their used up poons.

See guys when the music stops I’ll have my chair. And I’ll probably have a nicely used high horsepower Mustang on the cheap as well courtesy of some bimbo out there who got herself into too much debt. Affirmative action didn’t get me there. Sacrificing most of my adult life did but the payoff is that I can glide under the tax radar now and can afford to live on the cheap. Everything is paid off.

To those that don’t follow my path that’s good too. But make absolutely sure to take advantage of the bargains that’ll be around in the coming years as women are forced to endure their lovely and economically unsound lives. Slut or not, who gives a shit. Just let me find a 5.0 in black or silver is all I’m saying. Now that’s what I call affirmative action FTMFW.

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Troll King April 21, 2011 at 19:54

Loki….yeah, she is crazy.

The scary thing is that she is only a few years older than me. I know most men on this board are older and many are divorced and have kids and many are part of the baby boom or gen x and I am sure you guys had crazy girls in school. I just want to point out that I have known women like this my entire life, going back to elementary school when this girl, whose mother was a feminist and friends with my feminist mother or friendly atleast, was running around on the playground kicking boys in the nuts. I didn’t get kicked because I pushed her down and got into trouble for it.

I know it is a cliche but I have had more than one angry college aged girl get in my face about holding open a door and majoring in the social sciences I have seen this stuff in lectures and guest lectures and so on.

I have heard all sorts of strange theories about women who didn’t have children before 30 were thought to go insane or about hysteria being a illness afflicting women without husbands worse than normal women and so on…..when I read radfem and feminist blogs and writing, well…I trully wonder how correct our forefathers and historians were.

@Joe

TFH wrote the misandry bubble….or so I thought.

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blert April 21, 2011 at 20:10

Loki…

You’re addressing the asymmetry of XX vs XY…

The classic line:”Will you still respect me in the morning?” should be the MAN’S question. A solid marriage occurs when the wife RESPECTS her mate. It’s a different emotive.

As for the husband, it is essential that she so pleases him that she EARNS HIS LOVE. She has to constantly EARN his love – -which is only begrudgingly given — to stay grounded and focused on her moment to moment imperatives.

Women live in the moment — and don’t plan their lives, usually — dream and hope, yes. This trait is a requirement for the sex that has to deal with infants.

The brain wiring that permits a mother to multi-task effectively limits her ability to stay focused on complicated brain intensive issues such as engineering. Zoning off like Newton just does not pencil out for females.

Until marriage, a female is prone to one ultra-long slumber party: why ever grow up?

That’s the reason for the cock-carousel .

The kind of woman that waits until the clock runs down is exactly the person who submitted term papers under the wire – -and took all of the easy courses like womyn’s myths and fantasies: culture after the memory-hole.

So wives need to earn their man’s love — over and over…

Husbands need to establish respect in their wives — over and over…

When a woman says ‘I love you’ you must adjust that to ‘I respect your manliness.’

Gushing support from her lover is the LAST thing a dependent female wants to hear. It comes off as if she’s expected to ‘man point’ in the relationship and the world. Yuuk. That’s a man’s job.

Reverse it and all is well: keep making demands for her support. Fill up her in-box. Keep it full. Top it off with drama. The faster she must run the better her body and her psyche.

If she starts whinging about her duties — you’re on target. Don’t back off. You’re the drill instructor and she’s the cadet.

In particular, compel marathon sexual performances. Make every effort to exhaust her. Then, from time to time, leave too soon — no cuddles at all.

Always leave her in some doubt whether she’s all that good a lay. Don’t run her down — just instill enough doubt to keep her hamster wondering, wondering.

Such drama makes her life a soap opera — and there’s a real reason gals are hooked on soaps — they need social drama as much as air or water. So give it to them.

Taylor said of Burton: never a dull moment, ever!

He knew what he was doing.

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Paraprakrti April 21, 2011 at 20:15

This article reminds me of the following:

“But you women, you cannot see that this so-called equal right means cheating the woman. Now I say more clearly that a woman and man meets. Now they become lover. Then they have sex, and the woman becomes pregnant, and the man goes away. The simple woman, she has to take charge of the child and beg from government alms, “Please give me money.” This is your independence. Do you admit this is independence, that the man makes the woman pregnant and he goes away without any responsibility, and the woman cannot give up the child, she maintains, begging from the government or she tries to kill the child? Do you think it is very good independence? (…) So which is independence? to remain under husband is independence or to become free to be enjoyed by everyone?” -A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada (Room conversation with writer, Sandy Nixon – July 13th, 1975, Philadelphia)

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E April 22, 2011 at 01:05

Curious said…
“The terms Alpha and Beta sound like upper middle class female psycho-babble.”

I think there’s a certain amount of truth behind the alpha/beta/game explanation but it receives more bandwidth than it deserves IMHO.
The greatest weapon men have against feminism is to AVOID marriage.
Revenge of the Nerd

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TFH April 22, 2011 at 01:50

TFH wrote the misandry bubble….or so I thought.

Yes.

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Curious April 22, 2011 at 04:59

Thank you, E for replying.

There is some truth in that paradim but most of it is based on the view point of modern Western women.

I tried the game plan but realized I had no interest in the prize.

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Curious April 22, 2011 at 04:59

Thank you, E for replying.

There is some truth in that paradim but most of it is based on the view point of modern Western women.

I tried the game plan but realized I had no interest in the prize.

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Philip April 22, 2011 at 06:41

OT….. For you guys who like the conspiracy/NWO stuff, check out tinytalk.co.uk
Looks like the great dumbing down is going to the next stage. In two or three generations only the ruling elite will use vocal communication, the plebs will have to grunt n sign.

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AfOR April 22, 2011 at 06:45
Keyster April 22, 2011 at 07:29

In the grand march of feminist dogma throughout our culture, the affect on men was never considered. They were expected to simply accept it and comply with it…or women would not like them.

Women cannot be trusted with power, because they will ALWAYS damage society, in serving their own means.

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mgtow April 22, 2011 at 08:09

Feminism has, ironically, liberated men. No longer are man obliged to marry to get laid. No longer do men need to be cajoled or shamed into slogging away at a soul crushing job to be a ‘good provider’. No longer are men obliged to contribute to a society that punishes and demonizes them simply because they are male.

Once the male pill arrives, the last fig leaf worn by the goddess of feminism will be removed.

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TomJW April 22, 2011 at 12:27

Troll King April 21, 2011 at 17:57

Great find. From some of the commenters, I drifted off into other good internet sites for hours, only when I came back hear and reread your comment could I remember how I drifted off.

It’s tough to get old.

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Rebel April 22, 2011 at 13:08

” mgtow April 22, 2011 at 08:09
Feminism has, ironically, liberated men”

You are quite right. It did in more ways than one.

This one, for instance:

http://ozconservative.blogspot.com/2011/04/how-does-professor-lewin-think-women.html

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Sirreaper April 22, 2011 at 16:14

Well I think this is appropriately funny for this thread and article then…

enjoy :)

http://www.theonion.com/video/how-to-get-a-guy-to-notice-you-while-youre-having,19984/

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Common Monster April 23, 2011 at 00:37

> Back in the “good old days”….

Which are still with us in lots of places: Field Guide to the Casanova: The Lady-killer Files (Are players socially skilled hedonists, or self-destructive psychopaths?)

You really don’t think feminism is so All Powerful as to have created pick-up artists from scratch out of nothing, do you? I mean, talk about feminacentric inspired megalomania run amuck.

Maybe you c0uld start another silly stupid religion based on this falsehood, and every other one you can think up, give it a catchy name, like “Game”, which any third grader can grep, and then twist everything to fit it. Crap like this sells very well in amerika these days. Pretty soon the PUA’s will be so full of it they’ll be bragging about having invented the MRM, too.

How is it, again, that being the creation of feminism is “liberating”? I really want to hear this, so get your rationalization hamsters fully warmed up.

Anyway, I’m glad you feel empowered. They’ve got you so totally bamboozled you don’t realize they’ve got you exactly where they want you. You’re like a fish who doesn’t know how wet he is. High fives all around!

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Curious April 23, 2011 at 17:19

Since I don’t like the terms, I shall hence forth label myself “Omega Man” since I opted out of the game for a generation now.

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Calvin, S April 24, 2011 at 10:09

Delusion Damage not only has the scathing arguments and blinding truth, he does it in a form that’s simply poetic. I beg you, keep writing more.

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Brody April 6, 2012 at 23:27

Women complain about how unfair it is that men are called studs when they sleep around, yet women get called sluts for the exact same behavior. It’s actually not a double standard though, because both scenarios are pretty different in terms of circumstances and consequences. I can think of at least four crucial differences:

First, sleeping around is easier for women. Regardless of how you feel about promiscuity, we can all agree that a guy who manages to rack up a lot of sexual partners has to have some skills. It’s challenging for men to rack up partners, even for men with low standards. A man needs social intelligence, interpersonal skills, persistence, thick skin, and plain old dumb luck. For women, though, a vagina and a pulse is often enough. Whenever an accomplishment requires absolutely no challenge, no one respects it. It’s just viewed as a lack of self-discipline. People respect those who accomplish challenging feats, while they consider those who overindulge in easily obtained feats as weak, untrustworthy or flawed.

Second, women have potential to do more harm by sleeping around than men do. Say a man sleeps around with a bunch of different women. He’s definitely doing harm to these women if he pretends to be monogamous while sleeping around. He may cause them emotional pain by his promiscuity. He may cause unwanted pregnancy. He may spread VD. When women sleep around, however, they can cause not only all these same ill effects but one additional crucial ill effect: the risk of unknown parentage.

If one guy sleeps around with five women, each of whom is monogamous to him, and they all get pregnant, it’s a safe bet as to who the father is. If you reverse genders and have one woman who sleeps around with five men who are monogamous to her, and she gets pregnant, the father could be any of the five men. And if one of those men is tricked into raising a baby that isn’t his, he’s investing time, money, estate and property to provide for a child that isn’t carrying his DNA into the next generations, a costly mistake from an evolutionary standpoint.

Our two basic primal drives are to survive and to reproduce, and promiscuous women traditionally make it hard for a man to know for sure whether he is truly reproducing or is secretly raising another man’s child. Men stand a lot more to lose from promiscuous women than the other way around. And it’s no picnic for the child to not know who his real father is either. And it’s a mess for the women carrying on the deception as well. Or just look at any random episode of the Maury show if you don’t believe me.

Since the DNA test and the birth control pill didn’t exist until recently, there were no reliable ways to prevent pregnancy or prove parentage for most of human history. For this reason society developed a vested interest in preventing promiscuity among women, and society accomplished this by creating the slut stigma. And even though the creation of birth control and DNA tests have made this less of a risk than the past, longstanding traditions and customs are not easy for society to break so the slut stigma remains.

Third, men have evolutionary reasons to be programmed to sleep around more. A lot of women roll their eyes when they hear that men are “hard-wired” to sleep around. But from an evolutionary standpoint, it makes total sense. If the two primal drives of humans are to survive and to reproduce, nothing leads to maximum reproduction like one man sleeping with multiple women. If one women sleeps with many men in a nine month period, she can only get pregnant just once. Nine months of rampant promiscuity would give the same result as nine months of highly sexed monogamy: one pregnancy. Now if one man sleeps with many women during a nine month period, you can get many pregnancies during that period. The more women he sleeps with, the more possible pregnancies.

So from an evolutionary standpoint, there are concrete advantages to men being promiscuous compared to women being promiscuous. This doesn’t mean that women have evolved to be strictly monogamous. Women have evolved to be somewhat promiscuous too, something men badly underestimate. However they haven’t evolved to be as rampantly promiscuous as men.
Fourth, promiscuity poses more risk to women than to men. A woman has more to lose from choosing bad sex partners than a man does. She’s the one who gets stuck with going through a pregnancy and taking care of a baby alone if she chooses a deadbeat. For this reason, promiscuous women throughout history have historically been viewed as being a vastly more irresponsible risk takers than promiscuous men, who rightly or wrongly could always run away from the consequences of unwanted pregnancies easier than women could.

These four reasons explain why the longstanding tradition came about of men being rewarded for multiple partners while women get socially punished for similar promiscuity. Of course all this is gradually changing, but we’re up against millenia of evolutionary and cultural conditioning here, so don’t expect any dramatic overnight reversals.

Understand that I’m just explaining why the double standard came into existence and not condoning or condemning it. This is not an attempt to pass judgment or be self-righteous in any way. It’s just an explanation of why the two conditions are treated differently.

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Brody April 6, 2012 at 23:27

Girls everywhere and all you emasculated “men” who are trying so hard to be politically correct at the expense of your masculinity, listen up.

Men and women are equals. This does not mean that they are equal in every single thing they do. For example, men are, on average, physically stronger than women. It is much easier for a semi attractive (even a 6/10) woman to go out and get laid. The same cannot be said about men. Men have to work at it, have some skill (game) and thereby get a woman to sleep with them. It is a LOT harder for an equally attractive man to get women than it is the other way around. This is one of reasons behind why we, as a society, naturally celebrate men who are successful in bedding multiple women; while at the same time shame women who bed multiple men.

Let us briefly visit the topic of virginity from both perspectives. Virginity in a man is not a desirable state or label when it comes to an attribute that the opposite sex wants. This is because he has obviously not been preselected by other women. However, female virginity is not looked at negatively in the least by men. If she looks decent, no man cares if the girl is a virgin or not. In fact, a female virgin is often wanted more.

Now don’t get me wrong, men LOVE sluts. We will never turn down an opportunity to sleep with a good looking slut. Partly because she’s good in bed, partly because it’s sex. But any decently intelligent, self-respecting man will know that it is a terrible idea to emotionally involve himself (i.e. date) a slutty girl. That would be a very dumb move. Why would any man want to get emotionally involved with a girl who’s had 15+ sexual partners? We would just be setting ourselves up for failure. There are many nice worthy girls out there who don’t have daddy issues and haven’t slept with an entire fraternity house. But, by all means, fvck the brains out of sluts in the meanwhile.

Most guys can detect when a girl is a slut by the first few dates and by what he hears about the girl from other people and from the girl herlself. We put this information together and figure out if she is dating material or not. If not, I like most guys, will still go in for the prize but have no intention of following through with dating the dirty little tart.

To put it simply, a lock that can be opened by many keys is a useless lock and of little worth. But a key that can open many locks is a master key and is valuable.

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Lele July 1, 2012 at 07:32

“Those men who found the lifestyle of a serial conqueror alluring could now practice their craft with impunity”

Saying that nowadays players are allowed is an understatement. Not only they are allowed, but – once we look beyond lip service – they are praised and *are rewarded in every possible way*: increased social status, chances of having their kids raised enthusiastically by other worthy men or at least by a responsible State, etc. All of this while nice men are taken advantage in every possible way (little to no sex in their younger years, later marriage, unfair divorce laws, paying taxes for single mom’s benefits, etc.)

I agree that feminism has backfired in this regard, but I’m not seeing a return to “the good old days”. Expecting women to stop riding the alpha-cock carousel they enjoy so much is wishful thinking. We are more likely to see women finding ways to extract more and more resources from men while giving back less and less. A current example of this are social benefits for single moms.

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