Ascetic Feminism

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by Jack Donovan on April 8, 2011

For women, there are both ascetic and indulgent styles of feminist extremism.  There are humorless academics and angry bra-burners, certainly, but modern feminist women tend to be more self-indulgent—at least in theory. Take, for example, the recent Toronto “Slut March.” Many women see feminism an invitation to reject boundaries, to live as they please, to “suck the marrow out of life.”

(h/t Richard Spencer)

In contrast, extreme feminist ideology in men requires ascetic discipline.

For a relative handful of particularly effeminate gay and transgendered males, extreme feminism is attractive because it offers freedom from the expectations of other men and traditional sex roles. Transgendered feminist R.W. Connell, author of Masculinities, would fit into this category. However, according to a recent estimate, exclusive gays and the transgendered may make up as little as 2 and .3 percent of the population, respectively.

For the majority of men, feminism does not offer equal parts of “freedom” and “discipline.” Feminism requires men to self-examine, repent, and—as one extremist put it—“refuse to be a man.” For men to ensure that women have the opportunity to do whatever they want, men are asked to carefully examine and change their own behavior. In response to a popular bumper sticker, I would say that:

Feminism is the radical notion that men should stop doing whatever women say, so that women can do whatever the hell they want.

While women march together proudly as sluts, male feminists like Jackson Katz teach workshops and offer men lists of things they should do to combat gender violence.

TEN THINGS MEN CAN DO TO PREVENT GENDER VIOLENCE

  1. Approach gender violence as a MEN’S issue involving men of all ages and socioeconomic, racial and ethnic backgrounds. View men not only as perpetrators or possible offenders, but as empowered bystanders who can confront abusive peers
  2. If  a brother, friend, classmate, or teammate is abusing his female partner — or is disrespectful or abusive to girls and women in general — don’t look the other way. If you feel comfortable doing so, try to talk to him about it. Urge him to seek help. Or if you don’t know what to do, consult a friend, a parent, a professor, or a counselor. DON’T REMAIN SILENT.
  3. Have the courage to look inward. Question your own attitudes. Don’t be defensive when something you do or say ends up hurting someone else. Try hard to understand how your own attitudes and actions might inadvertently perpetuate sexism and violence, and work toward changing them.
  4. If you suspect that a woman close to you is being abused or has been sexually assaulted, gently ask if you can help.
  5. If you are emotionally, psychologically, physically, or sexually abusive to women, or have been in the past, seek professional help NOW.
  6. Be an ally to women who are working to end all forms of gender violence. Support the work of campus-based women’s centers. Attend “Take Back the Night” rallies and other public events. Raise money for community-based rape crisis centers and battered women’s shelters. If you belong to a team or fraternity, or another student group, organize a fundraiser.
  7. Recognize and speak out against homophobia and gay-bashing. Discrimination and violence against lesbians and gays are wrong in and of themselves. This abuse also has direct links to sexism (eg. the sexual orientation of men who speak out against sexism is often questioned, a conscious or unconscious strategy intended to silence them. This is a key reason few men do so).
  8. Attend programs, take courses, watch films, and read articles and books about multicultural masculinities, gender inequality, and the root causes of gender violence.  Educate yourself and others about how larger social forces affect the conflicts between individual men and women.
  9. Don’t fund sexism. Refuse to purchase any magazine, rent any video, subscribe to any Web site, or buy any music that portrays girls or women in a sexually degrading or abusive manner. Protest sexism in the media.
  10. Mentor and teach young boys about how to be men in ways that don’t involve degrading or abusing girls and women. Volunteer to work with gender violence prevention programs, including anti-sexist men’s programs. Lead by example

Feminism calls men to monitor their language and to reject certain worldly goods and pleasures for the feminist cause. Feminst men are asked to put aside their own interests to attend seminars and counseling sessions to study feminist dogma. They are asked to become evangelists, accusers and informers.  Finally, men are asked to transform themselves—to undergo a re-birth and become “new men.” A new, difficult to watch video making the rounds from “conscious men” captures the essence of male feminist asceticism.

This ascetic feminism is a form of goddess-worship. It is clear that these men do not see women as they are, but as divine creatures who are more connected to the earth, more harmonious, and more innocent than men. They can’t see that women are human animals pursuing their own selfish interests—just like men.

“Conscious men” Arjuna Ardagh and Gay Hendricks openly admit on their web site and in their video that they “worship women.” While the video above is probably even a bit over the top for academic feminists like Micheal Kimmel or Jackson Katz, what it asks of men is not so new or different. The portrayal of men as greedy, raping war-mongers and women as noble, gentle, angelic souls who only want freedom, equality and harmony is a consistent cliché in pro-feminist writing by men.

A certain portion of men find themselves particularly drawn to ascetic pursuits, but most men can appreciate asceticism on some level or other.  The Catholic Encyclopedia has a comprehensive article on various forms of religious and non-religious asceticsm.  The word asceticism comes from the Greek askesis—meaning practice, exercise and bodily training. This link between physical and mental discipline sheds a little light on what men and some women find attractive about ascetic lifestyles.

Asceticism is strength turned inward; it requires inner discipline—exercise for the soul. Self denial requires strength and self-mastery, and it has a momentum of its own. Self-discipline is admirable, but for some it can spiral downward into self-negation, and the denial of one’s own will to power. As the Catholics might offer, it can also engender a perverse form of “holier-than-thou” vanity.

Male feminists find themselves on a spiritual quest to “save women” through self-denial and solemn religiosity. They self-flaggelate and confess and do penance for the original sin of being born male. As woman-worshippers, they give women the god-like power of absolution, and kneel before her as supplicants seeking grace.

This inequality and slavish devotion to a mythical ideal of women among male feminists cannot be over-emphasized. Shaming them as “manginas” only reinforces their belief system and feeds into their sense of righteousness about the overcoming of traditional sex roles. Recognizing them as cultish, fetishistic woman-worshippers and slavish self-flagellating self-deniers reveals more about the ascetic masochism of the male feminist.

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Paul April 8, 2011 at 09:51

I actually received a response on my blog from Arjuna, based on my parody of his video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbPirZRVGx8

I don’t think these guys are gay or have any malice. They just have lived their entire lives in a politically correct university cocoon. In such an environment they literally never hear (due to speech codes, censorship) any ideas that oppose feminism or Cultural Marxism. So they repeat their happy bullshit to each other and end up with some strange and mystical form of gobbledygook that no longer resembles English.

The response to the video has been overwhelming negative. Even most women I have talked to find it “creepy”. I think the harsh reality of free speech on the Internet has taken them aback. Because in their little worlds it is impossible to even think that a man could be opposed to feminism.

Something has changed over the past few years. Feminism is now on the defensive.

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Ken April 8, 2011 at 09:51

Male feminists find themselves on a spiritual quest to “save women” through self-denial and solemn religiosity. They self-flaggelate and confess and do penance for the original sin of being born male. As woman-worshippers, they give women the god-like power of absolution, and kneel before her as supplicants seeking grace.

This is the same pathetic “male” creature who either “allows” his wife to get hammered by another man (Cuckold) or the one who treats his wife like she’s his “mother” (answering to her like a child). The very insecurity in this type of “man” showed up years earlier in childhood as well….for he was the kid who made excuses for the bully or paid for protection back in high school….the grown “man” who now believes the world will improve greatly if all other men became a p*ssy like he is!
Jack is right, better to see them for the poor little creatures that they are because theire dilemma is actually a bit more complicated than the term “mangina” :)

“Far better it be to dare mighty things than to take rank with those poor timid creatures whom know neither victory nor defeat” -Teddy Roosevelt.

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Uncle Elmer April 8, 2011 at 09:53

A while back I posted on Arjuna’s site that while he is worshiping his woman she is likely getting rogered by some surly bad-boy in gabardine slacks.

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Carnivore April 8, 2011 at 09:58

Jack,

Good article.

Regarding the ‘conscious men’ make-me-puke video, we have to remember that they are male. The great thing about the male brain is how logical it is. Being logical, it takes propositions to their logical conclusion and then acts upon that conclusion. Unfortunately for these guys, they have swallowed the false propositions of feminism and simply taken them to their logical conclusion – worship of woman as goddess. That is the desired end of feminists.

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Uncle Elmer April 8, 2011 at 10:01

The real rage of the “slut-walk” girls likely emerged when they returned home to their bewildered mangina boyfriends (if they even have one) and were not ravished, rogered, and defiled for dressing like a slut.

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Richard P-Man April 8, 2011 at 10:11

Men have been getting beaten over the head with garbage like this for years.

The cardinal rule of men is “never hit a woman”.

The cardinal rule of women is “I can do nothing wrong”

Men aren’t the ones that need coaching – women do.

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Opus April 8, 2011 at 10:15

Like I always say: Feminism is whatever you want it to be. The only consistent thing that it has is gynocentrism. Noone wants to be horrid to women but abasing themselves like Arguna and Hendricks makes makes me shake my head in sorrow. As for the Canadian Sluts’ cognitive dissonance, words fail me.

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Lyn87 April 8, 2011 at 10:16

Great piece, and highly depressing. We’re two, maybe three generations into hard-core feminist indoctrination of young people and we’re at the point where misandry is in the very air we breathe.

Guy like the ones in the “Dear Woman” video are pretty far gone, and thankfully most guys (and even the grown women in fly-over country) who watch that will feel revulsion rather than respect. The reason that’s so is that human nature is not nearly as malleable as these toads think, and even guys that spent their youth in feminized PubLick Skuulz haven’t been completely neutered. I would expect normal women to react just as strongly – maybe more so, since the guys in the video are so completely un-masculine, and they so obviously beg to lower their status relative to the women they’re talking to, that no human female could find such guys attractive for very long, if at all. I’d bet if any of them have female dogs even they don’t respect them – bitches (in the literal sense of female canines) know who the alpha male is even across the species barrier.

But stuff like that is only what’s on the fringe. We never had the fringe, but what’s far worse is that masculinity is losing the center as well. That bodes ill for all of us, since the only alternative is catastrophic. Ironically, women and children will suffer disproportionately when the floor drops out from under civilization because feminism kicked out the struts.

Good post, Jack.

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Herbal Essence April 8, 2011 at 10:19

Jack Donovan does a terrific job of distilling and succinctly laying out “spiritual” radical feminism.

At one time in my life I dedicated a lot of study and practice in so-called consciousness and spiritual practices. Though I think many valuable things can be gained from meditative and ecstatic practices, the ideology that comes along with it is balls out, no-holds-barred radical feminism. This is true for the New Age, yoga and meditation groups, and invented religions like “Wicca” and “Neopaganism.” Also, nearly all the leaders of these movements are openly female supremacist. And when you hear these groups talk about gender issues, it’s really no different from a fem rally on a college campus. Patriarchy boogeymen, myths of female moral superiority, myths of feminism = equality for all, blank slate thesis, pink unicorns, and of course the evil, evil penis.

I still think things like meditation, yoga, and tantra are valuable for men’s health and wellness. Especially in these stressful times we live in. But you have to tune out a whole lot of crap.

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SingleDad April 8, 2011 at 10:24

This is just the inevitable outcome of the last 40 years of feminist hegemony in the US.

They are the face of what women said they wanted for the last 40 years.

I also don’t think these guys are sorry for anything. I think there is a profit motive here some where. And they convinced some younger guys they could get laid.

Women see right through it, they’ve been falsely flattered their entire lives.

The problem is that no matter how nice a Jew was to the Nazi’s, it was the gas chamber for them.

And then the newest wrinkle, women hate men who behave as women request…crazy started.

This should be a mens rights video shown in High School relationship education programs run by concerned fathers….as what they can become if they don’t wise up about the other half of the species. A tale of caution.

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BWB April 8, 2011 at 10:27

Ramzpaul has a great video parody of this video at:
http://www.ramzpaul.com/
and here:
http://youtu.be/qbPirZRVGx8

He even put candles and insipid music in the background!
-B

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Robert April 8, 2011 at 10:30

“Feminism requires men to self-examine, repent, and—as one extremist put it—“refuse to be a man.”

While at the same time they demand that men “Man up!”

I refuse to obey or consent to their ridiculous demands.

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Balance April 8, 2011 at 10:34

I’ll be honest, I couldn’t make it through the entire video. Especially after reading that list before it. Talk about a double whammy. I’m thoroughly disgusted.

Great analysis, Jack.

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Opus April 8, 2011 at 10:35

Herbal Essence: that is very interesting. I suspect that a lot of the New Age stuff (especially Budhism) is seen as the Pray part of eat;pray;love after, the women have done with fornicating and getting fat. It may mean well, but…

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Tim April 8, 2011 at 10:39

There was a guy on YT by the name of Binthanvho who used to preach this shit, ‘male feminism’.

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Herbal Essence April 8, 2011 at 10:46

SingleDad-”And then the newest wrinkle, women hate men who behave as women request…crazy started.”

Yes. Hang out among a mixed group of “consciousness” enthusiasts and it’s the same mating game we see everywhere else-

Women flock around the sexy and powerful males and females. Said of one particularly unenlightened drug-dealing womanizer I knew of- “Ooh, he has such strong male energy!” Yeah. I’ll bet.

Some of the far-gone dudes like Arjuna get a minority of the female attention if they have perceived leadership positions. Rather like how feminized college professors can still get hot co-ed action.

The average and lower males get platitudes and pats on the head as reward for their self-abnegation. “Keep drinking that Kool-aide, son, and you’ll meet a nice girl! You can be just like Arjuna! Yey!”

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Robert April 8, 2011 at 10:52

” For men to ensure that women have the opportunity to do whatever they want, men are asked to carefully examine and change their own behavior. ”

A big negative. There is nothing wrong with me behaving as a man.

“While women march together proudly as sluts, male feminists like Jackson Katz teach workshops and offer men lists of things they should do to combat gender violence.”

Hmmm, one-sided thinking or half-thinking.

TEN THINGS MEN CAN DO TO PREVENT GENDER VIOLENCE

“Approach gender violence as a MEN’S issue involving men of all ages and socioeconomic, racial and ethnic backgrounds. View men not only as perpetrators or possible offenders, but as empowered bystanders who can confront abusive peers
If a brother, friend, classmate, or teammate is abusing his female partner — or is disrespectful or abusive to girls and women in general — don’t look the other way. If you feel comfortable doing so, try to talk to him about it. Urge him to seek help. Or if you don’t know what to do, consult a friend, a parent, a professor, or a counselor. DON’T REMAIN SILENT.
Have the courage to look inward. Question your own attitudes. Don’t be defensive when something you do or say ends up hurting someone else. Try hard to understand how your own attitudes and actions might inadvertently perpetuate sexism and violence, and work toward changing them.
If you suspect that a woman close to you is being abused or has been sexually assaulted, gently ask if you can help.
If you are emotionally, psychologically, physically, or sexually abusive to women, or have been in the past, seek professional help NOW.
Be an ally to women who are working to end all forms of gender violence. Support the work of campus-based women’s centers. Attend “Take Back the Night” rallies and other public events. Raise money for community-based rape crisis centers and battered women’s shelters. If you belong to a team or fraternity, or another student group, organize a fundraiser.
Recognize and speak out against homophobia and gay-bashing. Discrimination and violence against lesbians and gays are wrong in and of themselves. This abuse also has direct links to sexism (eg. the sexual orientation of men who speak out against sexism is often questioned, a conscious or unconscious strategy intended to silence them. This is a key reason few men do so).
Attend programs, take courses, watch films, and read articles and books about multicultural masculinities, gender inequality, and the root causes of gender violence. Educate yourself and others about how larger social forces affect the conflicts between individual men and women.
Don’t fund sexism. Refuse to purchase any magazine, rent any video, subscribe to any Web site, or buy any music that portrays girls or women in a sexually degrading or abusive manner. Protest sexism in the media.
Mentor and teach young boys about how to be men in ways that don’t involve degrading or abusing girls and women. Volunteer to work with gender violence prevention programs, including anti-sexist men’s programs. Lead by example
Feminism calls men to monitor their language and to reject certain worldly goods and pleasures for the feminist cause. Feminst men are asked to put aside their own interests to attend seminars and counseling sessions to study feminist dogma. They are asked to become evangelists, accusers and informers. Finally, men are asked to transform themselves—to undergo a re-birth and become “new men.”

He forgot one: MGTOW. He must also be ignorant of violence committed by women against men and boys.

http://www.batteredmen.com/

I imagine Jackson would consider it ok and/or politically correct if a women committed violence against him ( and/or any son(s) he might have).

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Uncle Elmer April 8, 2011 at 10:52

What’s Arjuna’s real name anyway, something like Fred Schmaltz from Toledo?

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evilwhitemalempire April 8, 2011 at 10:57

When you think about it pro-feminist males are basically just nerds who think that they can (symbolically) win the cheerleader if they can get the football captain thrown in jail on trumped up charges of rape or assault.
Their whole adult life is them trying to reconcile their lost high school battles by waging war on real men.

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Robert April 8, 2011 at 11:01

“..men are asked to transform themselves—to undergo a re-birth and become “new men.”

More BS. Wether feminists want me to be a man or not: I AM a MAN! I am not a computer they can program/reprogram at whim. If feminists don’t like me being a man, they can eat my ass with a gold spoon.

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Tim April 8, 2011 at 11:10

What’s Arjuna’s real name anyway, something like Fred Schmaltz from Toledo?

LOL!

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Gunn April 8, 2011 at 11:14

@Herbal Essence

Looking to these omegas to define mysticism is pure nonsense.

Mystical practice, done properly, is completely detached from feminism. Arguably, mystiscism is as masculine as it gets; there is a reason that eastern religions often state that women cannot become enlightened whereas men can. Mystical thought requires one to look reality in the eye, even at the cost of one’s ego. Imagine a woman doing that lol.

So by all means, rip thses unter-manginas a new one, but don’t tar vedic philosophy with that filthy brush.

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Hayden April 8, 2011 at 11:19

Like on an episode of Jackass, I blindly opened the video those two cats made when I saw it posted on avoiceformen.com. It took me about thirty seconds to believe that I was hearing what I was hearing and turn it off. It took me another thirty minutes to get back to my calm place. Although I have an almost overwhelming desire to beat men like this with a blunt instrument, I know it would yield no satisfaction. I would be akin to smacking a catatonic for staring off into space.

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Herbal Essence April 8, 2011 at 11:25

Gunn-”Mystical practice, done properly, is completely detached from feminism.”

I thought I noted how the problem was with the consciousness movement in the West, not the authentic practices. But maybe I was unclear, and if so I apologize. You are correct, and I didn’t mean to discourage men from pursuing this valuable wisdom.

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evilwhitemalempire April 8, 2011 at 11:46

What’s the point in having a world with loads of scantily clad females if
a) They are mostly obese.
b) They can throw you in jail if your not the ‘right’ kind of guy looking at them.
c) They can throw you in jail if you reject their advances.
d) They can throw you in jail if you dump them.
e) They can throw you in jail if you ‘cheat’ on them.
?

Sex positive feminism is only positive for women.
I’ll take the traditional ‘ball and chain’ (marriage 1.0) any day over that.

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Hayden April 8, 2011 at 11:52

Is anyone else noticing that the scare tactics used by the political parties concerning the possible government shutdown are only focused on the shutdown’s effects on women. For example, an article headlined on the Drudge Report says women’s cancer screening will be halting and so and so is going to kill women by virtue of the shutdown. Our whole society seems to focus on this woman as goddess/eternal victim role.

Thanks to Jack for writing another good article and to the Spearhead for posting it. The Spearhead’s articles and commentary keeps the rational mind intact.

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Kevin April 8, 2011 at 11:56

“Male feminist?” When did we stop calling them eunuchs?

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Lsmbr April 8, 2011 at 12:01

Those guys in the vid remind me of those Heaven’s Gate kooks.
Wait, didn’t they chop off their own nuts? Hmm.

This video needs a trigger warning lol.

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djc April 8, 2011 at 12:05

Woman. I am sorry too. That I wasted 27 years with one of you who was a psychopath. It won’t happen again.

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duke April 8, 2011 at 12:19

Feminism should really be called vagina worship but since a vagina is by definition an empty space, feminism should be considered a religion about nothing.

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Robert April 8, 2011 at 12:30

evilwhitemalempire April 8, 2011 at 11:46
What’s the point in having a world with loads of scantily clad females if
a) They are mostly obese.
b) They can throw you in jail if your not the ‘right’ kind of guy looking at them.
c) They can throw you in jail if you reject their advances.
d) They can throw you in jail if you dump them.
e) They can throw you in jail if you ‘cheat’ on them.
?
TRUE

Sex positive feminism is only positive for women.
I’ll take the traditional ‘ball and chain’ (marriage 1.0) any day over that.

Not me. If I want a “ball and chain”, I will construct such by my own hands.

I don’t know about other men but, I do not need either.

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Tom PAin April 8, 2011 at 12:31

I almost puked on myself, that was a gross film. I NOW FEEL that I want to put my BOOT on there heads just to see if they have any backbone left in them.

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Robert April 8, 2011 at 12:33

Hayden April 8, 2011 at 11:52

I noticed it. This is more proof of misandry being endorsed/supported by politicians and the media.

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Lord Viktor April 8, 2011 at 12:38

Did you know that Wonder Woman is a female supremacist? She’s always talkin’ shit about her peaceful matriarchal island of Thymascyria or whatever and how peaceful it is because it’s matriarchal.

While all other societies are patriarchal and that’s why they’re so evil and fucked up. And if her peace-loving warrior amazon sisters ever commit violence, it’s because the taint of patriarchy has infested and corrupted her people, not because they evil and hateful themselves.

Oh, don’t misunderstand, Wonder Woman doesn’t hate men, she just thinks they don’t deserve the same respect and reverence women do ^_^

Oh, yeah, the guy who created Wonder Woman? Not only did he invent the lie-detector, he also was a pussy-begging, Female Supremacist mangina himself.

So there you go, just a little taste of misandry to go with your comics. Have a nice day.

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Lord Viktor April 8, 2011 at 12:42

@Carnivore:

Jack,

Good article.

Regarding the ‘conscious men’ make-me-puke video, we have to remember that they are male. The great thing about the male brain is how logical it is. Being logical, it takes propositions to their logical conclusion and then acts upon that conclusion. Unfortunately for these guys, they have swallowed the false propositions of feminism and simply taken them to their logical conclusion – worship of woman as goddess. That is the desired end of feminists.

Never thought of it that way, the feminists using our own sense of logic against us.

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Hayden April 8, 2011 at 12:46

Robert,

It also says to me that men have to stand up. Political parties pander to interests that they believe will either make themselves heard in the media, send money to them or their opponents, or get out the vote for or actively against them. Women have done a great job of actively joining and acting like a special interest group even though they are a majority. Men have got to adopt this approach, become slaves, or parish.

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SingleDad April 8, 2011 at 12:59

@ Hayden

Or leave. I’m leaving.

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garvan April 8, 2011 at 13:07

I for one applaud this video.

Let the only depiction of men be of these “noble” men.

Let the alpha/beta/omegas be removed, and have only these men represent what it is to be a man. Remove any man from the mainstream that could ever be considered to use any of his masculinity for anything.

Give the feminists that “PERFECT” man, who does not offend, and only give them that.

Women have lost any claim to anything but to have these men. So let them have them. Let them have men they need to lead. Let them have men they need to mother. Let them have men who will not ever assert themselves or opinion, and will slave over them, worshipping them as not as the humans they are but divine goddesses they imagine themselves to be.

I mean, I’m a busy man, and I’ve got vidya games to play. New Pokemon looks pretty epic, and I’d rather not have them harpies bother me on my quest to catch them all.

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Robert April 8, 2011 at 13:08

Hayden April 8, 2011 at 12:46

I choose alternate survival.

http://www.google.com/#q=senator+harry+reid+budgets+cuts+about+women's+health&hl=en&rlz=1W1ADRA_en&prmd=ivnsuo&source=univ&tbm=nws&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=72mfTfaoIM3itgeR57STAw&sqi=2&ved=0CCQQqAI&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=ba5adafe3db1688d

The latest federal budgets cuts are about women’s health. Notice no mention of men’s health.

Our voices must be heard. Those who accuse us of whining are projecting their BS against us.

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Robert April 8, 2011 at 13:09

If the government does shut down (again), I know how to survive. Male feminists are on their own.

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Omti April 8, 2011 at 13:13

Lol, I read some of the comments in that “dear vagina” video. I mean how much of a wimp is a person that actually agrees with that shit?

Who would ever appologize for something they didn’t do?

I was quite happy that there were some women who wrote that this video is shit and the guys who made it should grow themselves vaginas. (well… ok my interpretation ^^)

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Peter April 8, 2011 at 13:17

They self-flaggelate and confess and do penance for the original sin of being born male. As woman-worshippers, they give women the god-like power of absolution, and kneel before her as supplicants seeking grace.

It’s true. You’ll find on feminist sites (and in general, many left-wing sites) the common practice of “examining one’s own privilege”. For male feminists, this is really just a revived form of confession, with the bored anonymous priest replaced with the disgusted anonymous lady feminist bloggers. I say disgusted because as we all know, women hate submissive men, and feminists are no exception. The female feminists then give the men absolution by telling them to think about what they’ve said.

For the female feminists, this exercise is less self-examination than self-aggrandizement. A lady feminist will say, I know, I have white privilege, able-bodied privilege, wealth privilege, married privilege, and cis-gendered privilege. Translation: I feel “bad” about being a rich white married woman who’s not a freak.

This ascetic feminism is a form of goddess-worship. It is clear that these men do not see women as they are, but as divine creatures who are more connected to the earth, more harmonious, and more innocent than men. They can’t see that women are human animals pursuing their own selfish interests—just like men.

I disagree, in a way. A being doesn’t have to be perfect in order to be worshipped as that’s a more recent innovation; think of the Greeks with their incestuous, licencious, violent and hypocritical pantheon of gods. I think these men, who are after all study women quite a bit, do indeed recognize that women are fickle, irrational and unaccountable. However, they embrace these features, combined with the ability of women to incubate new life, and tell other men to simply “accept” the mercurial nature of women. What else is that but a form of mystery worship? This being nothing new to humanity either, but these chumps think everything they come up with is new under the sun.

I have a pet theory that men generally fall into three camps once they accept and embrace the true nature of women.

Some men hate it. These are your MGTOW’s.

Some men worship it. These are your male feminists.

But the wisest men exploit it. These are your pick up artists.

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Hayden April 8, 2011 at 13:30

Maybe MGTOW is the correct path, but I have trouble believing that a productive man would ever be left in peace by a female led and feminist indocrinated goverment. The plowman is not going to be satisfied with a team of old nags when there are fresh clidsdales grazing in the pasture. I respect the MGTOW, and I have personally accepted the idea of life without another romantic relationship with a female. However, it may be my scotsirish blood and hard head that makes me want to stand up and fight this all-pervasive female bullshit.

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Hayden April 8, 2011 at 13:34

Typing fast on my iphone and while eating. Please overlook the form and look for content in my previous commemt.

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yohami April 8, 2011 at 13:40

The women´s response to that ascetic video is clear: they will complain that being a “nurturing, divine goddess” is still too much pressure, and that these eunuchs should adore them for the sluts they are.

Thats how you tie these worlds together

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Lovekraft April 8, 2011 at 13:47

The histrionics on display in Toronto is simply part of the Feminism/homosexual RACKET that has milked tax money in order to advance their concept of social justice.

Does anyone else here wonder what jobs these people have that they can march in the middle of the day? My guess is most are University students and other useless non-producers.

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TomJW April 8, 2011 at 13:50

I was going to call them MWOB (Men Without Balls), but that really gives them too much credit in some parts and not enough degradation that they deserve. Things like this must be held in complete contempt. Some day they must be held accountable for their vile accusations against all men.

Now I’ll read the comments.

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Hayden April 8, 2011 at 13:54

My point exactly. Catering to female whims is analagous to the British hesitance to enter WWII. They thought Hitler would be satisfied after invading his neighbors, and by the time reality dawned on them, it was almost too late. Similar examples can be found throughout history regarding poisonous ideologies. Some societies woke up in time to save themselves and others did not. Did the Jews that “went their own way” avoid the horrors of WWII? I am torn too fellas, but think about it.

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keyster April 8, 2011 at 13:58

Feminism should really be called vagina worship but since a vagina is by definition an empty space, feminism should be considered a religion about nothing.

It’s vacuous in mind, body and spirit; a metaphorical shallow cavern.
Their quest to fill the vaginal void and eventually womb, is perpetual.
To them there’s power in nothing, if they say so.
We need to stop listening to their constant babble, and dismiss them as the high-functioning children that they are. We need to stop pretending they’re men, only better.

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Hayden April 8, 2011 at 14:03

Keyster,
That was beautifully stated sir.

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TomJW April 8, 2011 at 14:19

BWB April 8, 2011 at 10:27

Great video!

Hayden April 8, 2011 at 11:19
“Although I have an almost overwhelming desire to beat men like this with a blunt instrument, I know it would yield no satisfaction. I would be akin to smacking a catatonic for staring off into space.”

Although you may be right, I have the true scientific urge to try this experiment and see how I feel about it.

I cannot for the life of me understand women and their defenders anymore. MGTOW is the only way to keep sane about it. Time to leture my son about it some more.

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van Rooinek April 8, 2011 at 14:27

Most of the pr0blems these pathetic guys complain about, would never have happened if their fellow leftists hadn’t scuttled the formerly Christian consensus of our society. Point by point:

1.Approach gender violence as a MEN’S issue involving men of all ages and socioeconomic, racial and ethnic backgrounds. View men not only as perpetrators or possible offenders, but as empowered bystanders who can confront abusive peers

Christianity, which they reject, does this. It teaches that all men are potential sinners and must learn to resist temptation, and once cast men in the role of “knights” (empowered bystanders!) who would defend a woman’s safety and honor at a moment’s notice. Few modern women have much honor worth defending, but let it go….

2.If a brother, friend, classmate, or teammate is abusing his female partner — or is disrespectful or abusive to girls and women in general — don’t look the other way. If you feel comfortable doing so, try to talk to him about it. Urge him to seek help. Or if you don’t know what to do, consult a friend, a parent, a professor, or a counselor. DON’T REMAIN SILENT.

Christianity, which they reject, does this. See anwer to #1.

3.Have the courage to look inward. Question your own attitudes. Don’t be defensive when something you do or say ends up hurting someone else. Try hard to understand how your own attitudes and actions might inadvertently perpetuate sexism and violence, and work toward changing them.

Christianity, which they reject, does this. It has long encouraged diligent conscientious introspection: Examine yourselves to see if you are in the faith! Cast the mote out of thine own eye!

4.If you suspect that a woman close to you is being abused or has been sexually assaulted, gently ask if you can help.

Christianity, which they reject, does this. See answer to #1.

5.If you are emotionally, psychologically, physically, or sexually abusive to women, or have been in the past, seek professional help NOW.

Christianity, which they reject, does this: REPENT AND CONFESS! Turn from your wicked ways! Treat the woman with the honor due unto the weaker vessel….etc.

6.Be an ally to women who are working to end all forms of gender violence. Support the work of campus-based women’s centers. Attend “Take Back the Night” rallies and other public events. Raise money for community-based rape crisis centers and battered women’s shelters. If you belong to a team or fraternity, or another student group, organize a fundraiser.

Christianity, which they reject, does this. Many churches run or support women’s shelters.

7.Recognize and speak out against homophobia and gay-bashing. Discrimination and violence against lesbians and gays are wrong in and of themselves. This abuse also has direct links to sexism (eg. the sexual orientation of men who speak out against sexism is often questioned, a conscious or unconscious strategy intended to silence them. This is a key reason few men do so).

Here we part company. Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind; it is abomination.

8.Attend programs, take courses, watch films, and read articles and books about multicultural masculinities, gender inequality, and the root causes of gender violence. Educate yourself and others about how larger social forces affect the conflicts between individual men and women.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz………………….

9.Don’t fund sexism. Refuse to purchase any magazine, rent any video, subscribe to any Web site, or buy any music that portrays girls or women in a sexually degrading or abusive manner. Protest sexism in the media.

Christianity, which they reject, does this. The fight against the pornification of society turned out to be a futile gesture against an unstoppable juggernaut, but Christianity did try .

10.Mentor and teach young boys about how to be men in ways that don’t involve degrading or abusing girls and women. Volunteer to work with gender violence prevention programs, including anti-sexist men’s programs. Lead by example

Christianity, which they reject, does this. Teaching boys to treat women with holy respect (not pagan goddess worship) and Christian, knightly chivalry, is the best “gender violence prevention” program ever devised.

Sadly, such teaching must be balanced, in our age, by a cold, clear-eyed recognition that most present day women are unworthy of this holy, chivalraic treatment; that it’s an act of charity and grace, not women’s “due”, in most cases (if you find an exception, marry her immediately!). Boys must be warned that many women will take cruel advantage of them if they do not recognize this fact early in life. In other words, you be nice to girls but brace yourself for the fact that most of them will NOT be nice to you. More simply…. LEARN GAME, MY SONS!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Hayden April 8, 2011 at 14:37

SingleDad,

You write too well, with too much passion, and with too much common sense with regard to men’s rights to be a hard-line MGTOW. You may be personally going your own way, but I think your comments will still light a fire under the collective asses of potential activists. Besides, I suspect your toe is too deep in the water here to wonder too far into the MGTOW wilderness. Does anyone here really think that a completely, and I mean completely, feminist America will suffer a man to live his own life and be happy without bowing and scraping to the great vagina?

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Robert K April 8, 2011 at 14:37

Uncle Elmer April 8, 2011 at 09:53 said
“A while back I posted on Arjuna’s site that while he is worshiping his woman she is likely getting rogered by some surly bad-boy in gabardine slacks.”

Of course she is. The irony of it is that male feminists are probably the men that women despise the most – that is, men who are so weak they sell themselves out in the hope of getting female approval. All people (men and women) admire strength of character in a man. If a man stands up for what he believes in, he is bargaining with a woman from a position she is forced to respect. On the other hand, grovelling male feminists are usually treated by women for the shit they are. Oh sure, women will say how wonderful a guy is because he believes in the feminist cause blah, blah, blah but she would never let him fuck her in a million years. She, like all women, will spread her legs for the very men who don’t give a crap about women’s issues.

Fairly obviously, that male feminists betray other men means that the other half of the human race despises them as well.

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Hayden April 8, 2011 at 14:44

We still talk of what feminists/females like or don’t like respect or don’t respect as though it matters. I ask you to view the matter from a medical perspective. Research the scientifically established effects of estrogen and progesteron. They are ANXIETY and DEPRESSION. Think about that.

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scot April 8, 2011 at 15:15

Gender-Raunch slut walks. Teaching “fisting” as a college course is next.

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scot April 8, 2011 at 15:19

Who “Empowered” all these vulgar Raunch sluts??? I dare to say the “first perversion” is when law enforcement pervert statistics that get funnelled into pervert proffessors, who train these “raunch sluts” to parade their perversion into public. The protocol perversion and semantics games of law enforcement that serve to “Empower” these gender-raunch sluts, are a stain on law enforcement.

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scot April 8, 2011 at 15:29

This march, which is mostly comprised of the “gender-Raunch” community, is just another pretext to attack heterosexual males, and heterosexual culture. The rest of the world must realize that the “first perversion”, that has “empowered” the gender-raunch community in the west, is the perversion of law enforcement; and this “first perversion” is beyond the scope of law enforcement duties; and hence un-constitutional.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) April 8, 2011 at 15:45

“On behalf of my gender”…..? You don’t talk for me arsehole. What a bunch of whimps.

What a bunch of manginas…..they are proud to do this? Shows you just how f***ed up men are.

“I forgive my gender?” Dude. I didn’t ask for you to do anything about forgiving me. I’ve done nothing wrong.

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Ambiorix April 8, 2011 at 16:02

As a Buddhist, I would like to distance myself from these tools.
Buddha would never have apologized for being a man.

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Lovekraft April 8, 2011 at 16:04

I showed this video to my girlfriend this morning. Giving her a few hours to digest it.

Tonight I am going to ask her what she thinks of it while looking her closely in the eyes.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) April 8, 2011 at 16:08

Lyn87 April 8, 2011 at 10:16
“bitches (in the literal sense of female canines) know who the alpha male is even across the species barrier.”

That is so true. I was in the outdoor area of a restaurant and this german woman was trying to get her dog to sit. As usual. Hopeless. After about 5 minutes of this stupid woman not even being able to get a dog to sit a man at the table, presumably unknown to the dog, leaned back, looked the dog in the eye, and commanded it to sit. The dog, naturally, sat obediently.

djc April 8, 2011 at 12:05
“Woman. I am sorry too. That I wasted 27 years with one of you who was a psychopath. It won’t happen again.”

DJC. Too true. I caught a cab tonight. The driver was a 24 your old man. I gave him the short run down on my case. He could not believe it. I finished with ‘tell all your mates…marriage is nothing but a scam…they want you to be a man-slave’. He was ‘thank you so much, no-one has every explained it to me quite like that before’.

Now that the work so many men are doing is starting to bite and ugly women are raping schoolboys to satisfy their ‘sexual urges’ that they have been denying they even have? Women are starting to lose a LOT of their lustre in the eyes of the young men. If you guys could only see what is happening in Ukraine and Germany…you would know the men are winning by simply quitting.

Robert K April 8, 2011 at 14:37
“The irony of it is that male feminists are probably the men that women despise the most”

Close…women do despite feminised men….I know because I was one….but they despise EVEN more a feminised man who breaks out of the matrix, makes it to alpha, and is prepared to call women the liars and hypocrites they are….I know because I am heavily despised by women. LOL!!! I am amazed how different I get treated as an alpha.

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Lovekraft April 8, 2011 at 16:11

van Rooinek: 2.If a brother, friend, classmate, or teammate is abusing his female partner — or is disrespectful or abusive to girls and women in general — don’t look the other way. If you feel comfortable doing so, try to talk to him about it. Urge him to seek help. Or if you don’t know what to do, consult a friend, a parent, a professor, or a counselor. DON’T REMAIN SILENT.

No, men have been doing this for ages. What men need to do is start standing up for their fellow men first. Once women realize they don’t get a free pass based on their plumbing, they will start to consider how their actions do or do not deserve chivalry.

Anecdote: at work this week some young tart beside me didn’t like what a male co-worker said to her so she said “If you were dating me, I wouldn’t give you any $ex”. Now, I would normally prefer to ignore this delusion but since it was said within earshot (actually two feet away from me), I took that as the right to comment, so I said “Actually, women have a duty to put out”. I matched a preposterous statement with an equally preposterous.

Of course her feminist and mangina allies reeled in mortal abject horror at my *gasp* callousness, and there’s been a chill for the past couple of days, but I think I made my point, and it is this:

Girl, if you lose an argument, you are not allowed to use deception and manipulation to exact your vengeance. You lost the argument, deal with it.

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Anonymous April 8, 2011 at 16:20

TEN THINGS MEN CAN DO TO PREVENT GENDER VIOLENCE

1. Most violence is against familiar people, not strangers. Don’t get married.
2. Child violence is epidemic. Don’t get involved with women who have children. Get a vasectomy. If you have sex with women, only have protected sex with a sterilized or infertile woman.
3. Hang out mostly with men of your own gender. Even if you beat the hell out of them, it won’t be gender violence.
4. Since a word, an image, even a thought is just exactly the same as a violent act, don’t speak to women if you can help it to play it safe.
5. Don’t fund sexism. Refuse to pay taxes that pay for services that only benefit women.
6. Women who equate “feminism” to “things I like” are like those who think that since all dogs are animals, all animals are dogs. This inability to make basic category differentiations and use elementary logic will have them putting equal signs between women, the environment, homosexual men, and (ultimately) your income. Do not engage.
7. Become a Muslim. The perfect example of the Prophet Muhammed, (Peace Be Upon Him) as revealed in the Holy Qu’ran negates the possibility of violence against women. When women are enslaved or beaten, even killed, it isn’t violence. Allah said so.
8. Read the Uniform Crime Reports as gathered by the FBI. There are some socio-economic groups that are more prone to violence than others. Avoid them.
8. Pay attention to the ratio of areas where there is a funding for anti-violence against women (such as college campus’) compared to areas where violence against women actually happens (see #8). Find the sweet spot between the two.
9 & 10 – reader choice.

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Royce Geist April 8, 2011 at 16:27

That second video is hilarious. What some guys will say to get laid…

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SingleDad April 8, 2011 at 16:28

@ Hayden

Thank for the the misplaced compliment, I cannot write, but when I say I am leaving I mean I am leaving the West.

One hundred years ago my grandfather decided that Europe was not a place he and his children could thrive. He had the courage to come to a place only civilized 200 years before.

The places I intend to stay have a millenia of history and modern full service internet cafe’s, but third world. I intend to do what I have seen many expats do and spend a few months in the US and the rest in male friendly countries. I’ve done my homework and have visited them.

The main reason, I suppose, is that I don’t feel comfortable even just walking around. They have closed parks in Britain to single men and Orange county in Cali are considering similar measures. I feel I am either seen as invisible or a creep if I even lift my eyes.

When you walk around and people smile at you and treat you with respect because of your age, it’s pretty cool, and reminds me of my country when I was young.

I hope I have the courage of my forefathers to forge ahead.

There is no future in the West for heterosexual white males, IMO.

btw: I completely agree that feminism is driven by the chronically depressed and anxious wing of team woman.

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Hayden April 8, 2011 at 16:30

What is with the pro-Muslim stuff, as though that is the ideal situation for men? Do you really think that is a winning proposition for men? I have talked to arab chicks about the way of life over there. According to the arab women that I talked with, the Muslim men become even more of a slave because they have to support each wife in exactly the same way. Can you imagine if you imagine having one or more cluster B disordered wives and having to act in a way that made them feel equal to the other wife or wives? That, my friend, is a dark place that you would not want to be in.

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Hayden April 8, 2011 at 16:37

SingleDad,

I can definitely see the appeal of the course you are taking. If my little boy didn’t need me here, I might do the same. Such is life. I am going to do what I can about the existing insanity for as long as I can.

Having said that and when life permits, I will definitely be taking some yearly vacations to man-friendly places to maintain my sanity as well. Good luck in your new home.

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Paradoxotaur April 8, 2011 at 16:41

@Lovekraft: ” her feminist and mangina allies reeled in mortal abject horror at my *gasp* callousness, and there’s been a chill for the past couple of days”

I’d bet better then even money that by the end of next week she gives you one or more very clear indications of interest, if she hasn’t already.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) April 8, 2011 at 17:11

SingleDad April 8, 2011 at 16:28

SD…feel free to come visit me in Germany. It’s not nearly so sexist over here. German men are astounded when I tell them what is going on in the anglo-sphere.

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SingleDad April 8, 2011 at 17:43

I have very much enjoyed the company of German ex pats all over the world. They do not seem to hesitate about finding more fertile places to live.

I would love to come visit you in Germany. Until my son graduates high school, however, it will be trips to visit family, then when he does I plan to take early retirement and enjoy a few years of traveling, playing music and relaxing with friends.

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greyghost April 8, 2011 at 17:47

Once again it looks like indifference is the winner here. MGTOW with the male cultural indeifference towards women will work wonders. Leaving the country is a kind of MGTOW. But I like the right here for you to see indifference. A male black market economy. Men voting for gay rights to manipulate and further destablise the society. Male birth control pill. Leave women to the “Dear Woman” bunch. Let that bunch be all there is to marry. Let the femminist men pay child support. Every now and again a man gone his own way can screw his wife. So what the chump married to the slut bitch pays for it. This vile act serves two important purposes. Say only 20 percent of men are the ‘Dear women” type. That leaves 80 percent of the women get to live a life of male indifference. 35 to 60 percent of women in their late fourties and fifties childless and never married but thoroughly sexed. And then left for a younger slut to be gamed out of her youth with complete indifference. Women with hamster’s fed with femminist solipism with continue with misandry to find joy. The same misandry will fuel the desire for the indifference of women. They will never put 2 and 2 together. Solipism is a firewall so to speak. Leaving them old unmarried and childless. And most importantly no man obligated to make payments on her.
We as MRA’s and men can do this on purpose or have this happen by default. I do not won’t to live in poverty as the former commies do. I do not want to live like an arab man under the oppresion of Islam, I just walked away from the femminist church. ( Not God the church) MGTOW with a culture of norm being indifference to women should be done on purpose and not out of desperation to survive. Done on purpose nobody has to die. The misandry bubble burst by default and not by our own choosing things get nasty.

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Carnivore April 8, 2011 at 18:22

Hey, that picture at the top, the guy on the right, is that Buddy Ebsen back from the grave or have I had too much hooch?

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CM April 8, 2011 at 18:42

There will always be confused little boys who never grow up and refuse to become men. They want to hide under their mommies skirts. People like Joe Biden who obviously hates himself, will endure physical abuse and cruelty by the person he worships as divine. These people are simply sick, their minds are stifled. I would say most of humanity is this way today. Most people are mob mentality, and the mob is the feminine mind, mobs do not think they just feel and imiatate. Few are of the masculine mind, independent, and thinking.

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Alexamenos April 8, 2011 at 18:59

That video is gayer than two men having butt sex.

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Jay Batman April 8, 2011 at 19:00

The essence of the second video is this: we are men who are going to tell you what you want so that we can get laid by any means possible, even if it involves selling out my gender and refusing to critique any feminine excesses whatsoever. I’m sorry, but I can have sex without resorting to obsequious flattery or some sort of vicarious, groveling acknowledgment of guilt.

Basically, none of the male ascetics have any self-respect whatsoever.

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Richard April 8, 2011 at 19:08

Approach feminism as a MEN’S issue involving men of all ages and socioeconomic, racial and ethnic backgrounds.

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Mike Brentnall April 8, 2011 at 19:18

I’m not breaking out my hair-shirt anytime soon to walk in solidarity with the people of either featured vid.

This ‘consciousman’ display is a re-hash of the past but in a small expanded form. Added to the mix this time is a little subjective faux mysticism so as to create an image of some rising untapped etherical force of the universe. Bowing and scraping to this imagined force may work for some, as we’ve seen. White knightery exacerbates the plague of feminism. Neither are going to last.

During the 1980s one particular brief fashionable rage against men came in the form of one John Stohltenburg and his “Refusing to be a man” writings and subsequent book sales tour across N.America, including a stopover in my city – Winnipeg. His presence garnered ink space in both daily papers plus other msm curio seekers. Andrea Dworkin was one of his mentors. Need more be said?
Back then there wasn’t much a pro-male men’s presence to offer countering viewpoints as there is today. He left this city, as other places, a legacy of hatred and belittlement toward men that still continues both covertly and overtly today.

As for the Toronto area demonstrators demanding the right to dress as they please -inconsequential public exhibitionism. Well, soon, six year old and up girls will want to be like them. The insecure and impressionable always wish to emulate.
Then there’s the needless stoking of the visual sexual nature of the young men. Objects to be manipulated for one’s own superficial narcisisstic selfishness. That works on dollies in a game of house but real people have real reactions, and rape isn’t one of them. As per usual, the tax funded ‘equality’ seekers are thinking only of themselves. Watch for the ensuing legislation in their favour.

Years ago a friend attired himself in a rather unorthodox manner but nowhere near risque’. He pointed out to me that many times over it was the females who had objected to his style and prodded their socially unaware boyfriends into harassing and picking fights with him. It seems that his style of dress took attention away from and off the girls wherever he went. Yup, he shore deserved the right to be beaten for his attire because of someone else’s puerile narcissism , now didn’t he?

Now, at long last, socially aware men are beginning to speak on matters critical to their existance and well-being. This is not going away anytime soon.

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Paradoxotaur April 8, 2011 at 19:20

only slightly OT, from the New Men’s Dicktionary:

mayer (ma’ er) v.i. 1. to game a young slut out of her fertility, pushing her to her Wile E. Coyote moment with complete indifference: He totally mayered her into future crazy cat-ladydom. -v.t. 2. to lose one’s chance at a successful marriage and family by riding the c’ck carousel too long: Her opportunity for bio motherhood was mayered into oblivion.

Sorry- some of the special characters didn’t make it through.

Hope everyone has a great weekend.

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Depravo April 8, 2011 at 19:44

It’s certainly strange how ‘neopaganism’ has been co-opted into some sort of cunt worshipping communion. Pagan Greece and Rome were not exactly proto feminist civilisations and Christianity was supposed to be a dangerous leveller in that regard, yet neopagans treat Christianity in general and the Catholic Church in particular as dick-swinging evil incarnate. It doesn’t even need saying that the eastern societies from which retards like Ardagh claim to draw inspiration for their wizened boomer spiritualism were patriarchal to the very core.

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NeverAgain April 8, 2011 at 19:51

Thank you for a great post. I now realize what I’m doing wrong. I’d write more but I have to go change my Empathetic Man Tampon and repent for my evil, testosterone-driven ways to show my support for my divine sisters.

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Sirreaper April 8, 2011 at 19:52

You know it’s kind of funny. I forgot about this Jackson Katz character. I remember I was fresh out of university with my BA psych from a small Canadian university, and needed to find work. I remember speaking with the director of http://www.domesticpeace.ca/ and trying to be the first “Male Counselor” out there. Of course this being prior to the 2010 winter Olympics, the funding was not there apparently. In any event this mangina showed up there and gave a talk and all I can remember is this chick who used to work at this place was raving about him and how she wanted me to meet him and he is so great….this from a woman who divorced her husband and took his daughter 2 provinces away mind you, and now goes to school and works little with an unassuming beta male, who takes care of her and her kid, and she was telling me the other day how “unsatisfied” she is in the bedroom, looking for an “open relationship”….still wanna buy that ring son? I’m so effing glad I didn’t get roped into that mangina cult, I’d rather liquify my tongue with acid than go work at that “shelter” or listen to that mangina….seriously…

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Junny April 8, 2011 at 21:02

I went to Youtube to check out the “Dear (infallible divine) women” video for myself, and the comments expressed sheer disgust from men and women alike. Still, I found a sickening mangina who said:

“Dear women,

As a man, I am sorry that you are the primary victims of war. You have? lost your fathers, your husbands, your brothers, and your sons. We are truly sick creatures indeed.”

My reply:

“If you’re such a sick creature, then get a sex change, Billy.”

Now my comment is pending approval. Free speech my ass.

Anyway, in my country, “sluts” (more conservative, but same nature) are worth a flirt but do not make marriage material. These same girls will “good” up to ensure their marriage to a rich, handsome, decent man (/bullshit off) someone they can boss around and inflate and show off their newly-found status that they earned simply by association of marriage to the other jealous hens.

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Gilgamesh April 8, 2011 at 21:02

Apparently our comments on the second video’s webpage need to be approved now. Also, I found this gem, which I replied to (though my reply may not see the light of day):

As a man, I am sorry that you are the primary victims of? war. You have lost your fathers, your husbands, your brothers, and your sons. We are truly sick creatures indeed.

I’m sure a lot of servicemen would disagree.

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Meritocracy April 8, 2011 at 21:32

Feminism has moved past ideology into the realm of religion. I watched part of this video and was just sickened by the utterly weak and pathetic men in it, and their sexist message. The truly disgusting thing is that a great part of Western males believe this utter crap whether they openly speak it or remain silent.

I think that it would be a better use of this site to actually place a lot more emphasis on articles that give examples of positive genuine masculinity that we and future men can emulate. Don’t just point out the failings in feminist societies.

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Simon April 8, 2011 at 21:45

completely off message. But don’t go see the film Hanna.

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/04/joe_wright_on_his_feminist-fai.html

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Jack Donovan April 8, 2011 at 21:46

Paul,

Yeah, I don’t think the producers of the video are gay (necessarily) either–though some of the guys in that video do strike me as homos.

I agree that that they have probably spent a long time in a positive feedback loop with women and other feminist males who supported and nurtured them.

Jack Donovan April 8, 2011 at 21:48

Thanks for the many positive comments on the article. I know several people had mentioned the second video already, but I’d been wanting to highlight the quasi-religious asceticism of male feminism for a while–and that video was a perfect “Exhibit A.”

Ronin April 8, 2011 at 21:58

Most (Angloshere) men are beta, hence feminism.

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Tim April 8, 2011 at 22:02

Empathetic Man Tampon.

LOL!

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Seamus the Classicist April 9, 2011 at 01:02

As the Catholics might offer, it can also engender a perverse form of “holier-than-thou” vanity.

Not in reality, as someone who is a Traditional Catholic (i.e. pre-modern Liberation Catholicism,) one of the main points that the Church would work against is Vanity (the root is the Latin “vanitas” -”unreality, falseness”) as one of the Cardinal Sins stemming from that Luciferian trait of “Pride.” Unfortunately in modern “Christianity” masculine traits have been demonized, as evidenced by Satan’s Horns, however this was not the portrayal of the Evil One in Catholism before the modern era (i.e. post-1500s.) In early and Medieval Catholicism the Devil was always shown as being weak and chaotic, a deciever and liar, traits allied in any traditional culture with (you guessed) feminity. In fact the numbers of female religious in the past when the Church was strongest was always very very small compared to the numbers of monks and priests.

This feminist Religion being presented is against all reality and any systematized religious tradition known. The masculine principle was always seen as divine, this can be seen in the cultic phallic symbol (please leave aside Fruedian implications) as divine protection and creation.

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andybob April 9, 2011 at 01:31

‘Dear Woman’ video.
What a bunch of piss-weak manginas. They’re too gay to be gay. They should be sentenced to their own maximum- security biosphere of fagdom. They are dangers to themselves and free-thinking men everywhere.
Shame, shame and shame again!

Notice how they speak their mantra like glassy-eyed Moonies at a We-Love-the-Reverend rally. Spooky. Thanks for bringing it to our attention, Mr Donovan. More articulate and thought-provoking writing. As stomach churning as this video is, we need to fully appreciate the depravity we face. In a perfect world, ‘Dear Woman’ would be a comedy skit. Not that funny, but certainly not for real. Alas, the buffoons on display here are sincerely in touch with their inner godesses. If you haven’t seen it yet, be warned: approach with caution (and bring a barf bag).

A few points:
What exactly is a ‘multi-dimensional woman’? Is that P.C. for ‘fat’?
How can your ‘masculine psyche’ have any ‘force’ if you’re ‘unaware’ of it? (Behold the logic of cretins trying to be deep – funny and sad, all at once).
How can men perpetrate oppression if they are ‘shackled and imprisoned’?
The ‘spirit of co-creation’? Just say it: you want to GET LAID!!!
‘Profound capacity for feeling’ = Very good at self-deception and hysteria.
Women revere the ‘heart of life’. Really? Abortion clinics anyone?
Men ‘used you’re beauty as a form of commerce.” Thankfully, whimymn have never done that. Must be their ‘spiritual integrity. Or was it their desire to ‘move humanity beyong animalism and superstition’. (Come again?)

‘I respect that your body belongs to you’. And my wallet belongs to me. No?
Honouring ‘your capacity to listen to your body’s needs’. Realspeak: I’ll let you screw around whenever you want and buy the thug a beer afterwards.
My Fave: ‘Men revere the principle of punishment’. Meaning: we believe in consequences and responsibliity – how brutally male-centric! We bastards!

Notice the amteurish cat drawing on the wall? I say it’s a feminazi retreat or compound with captive Ritalin-injected exes being set-up for public ridicule as cruel revenge (discovery of fleshlites in garden sheds?). How to account for the zombie stares and slurred speeches. Watch closely. And that’s definitely dolphin-inspired brainwashing muzak. Am I wrong?

I don’t think these persons are actually gay in the…er…biblical (?) sense. Probably just neutered. However, just in case they are gay, I feel compelled to make an across-the-board apology to straight men everywhere.
Dear Straight Men (Man?),
I offer this apology in the hope that we can put this video behind us and make a fresh start on our spiritual journey towards our integrated capacity for growth in a logical and co-committed ….
(Sorry, fuck it! I give up – just can’t spew this kind of shit like the dickheads in “Dear Woman’ without feeling dirty and ashamed. Probably for the same reason I despise feminism in the first place. It’s whole premise is built on lies and destructiveness. Only the glassy-eyed compliance (see video) of the deceived and the weak can bow down to the Matrix. I don’t know how they do it. I can’t even pretend. Fuck ‘em all
In hope of a better future,
Andybob
(gay, but not as gay as them).

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Logan April 9, 2011 at 01:47

Watching the video reminded me of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5WUUZbT2Sk

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TomJW April 9, 2011 at 05:56

That dumbshit list of things men could do to eliminate gender violence only needs one item – MGTOW. Stuff the rest of it.

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Rod April 9, 2011 at 06:30

I forced myself to watch the entire “Dear Woman” video, my reaction swinging back and forth between nausea and hilarity. The one part that really had me laughing was near the end where one of the men, speaking in a pious tone (well, they all spoke in a pious tone), made some claim like “we appreciate your willingness to forgive, and also TO SAY YOU ARE SORRY.” He’s really got it backward. Women are constantly trying to squeeze an apology out of men (usually just for the crime of being male), but I believe I could count on my fingers the number of times I’ve heard an apology from a woman, even when she is clearly in the wrong. Just look at all these guys they have gotten to apologize … for things they didn’t commit! I wonder if women watching this really appreciate all these groveling apologies, or if they don’t actually feel a bit of disgust.

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XS April 9, 2011 at 07:54

@Logan

Lol, very funny!

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Norm April 9, 2011 at 08:04

Toronto is one of the most liberal cities in North America (yes America is a continent not a country :) ). No surprise this came up there. Feminists are trying to make having many sex partners in your 20s acceptable. I guess they are “concerned” that not many men want these women in their late 20s and beyond. Too late, the men have long woken up and any propaganda will not change their minds.

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XS April 9, 2011 at 08:06

The video [Dear Woman] is great, this is what feminists claim to want so it gives women a taste of the endgame. Let their hamster wheels spin on that for a while.

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Lyn87 April 9, 2011 at 08:45

“Dear women,

As a man, I am sorry that you are the primary victims of war. You have? lost your fathers, your husbands, your brothers, and your sons. We are truly sick creatures indeed.”

How about this from some group of new-age feminist women instead?

Dear Man,

As a woman, I am sorry that you are the primary victims of war. Like us you have lost your brothers, fathers, uncles, and sons. Unlike us you have also lost your friends, your arms, your legs, your sight, your sanity, and often your lives. Meanwhile we stayed home in safety and boffed thugs, spent your paychecks, initiated divorce proceedings while you were in harm’s way, and used your absence while deployed to argue in court that you were not fit parents. We are truly sick creatures indeed.”

Fair is fair, right?

Wait, what am I thinking? “Fair” is so linear/masculist. Where did I put my hair-shirt?

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Vortac April 9, 2011 at 08:45

“Especially in these stressful times we live in. ”

Living in stressful times is a good spiritual practice.

- Vortac

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Jack Donovan April 9, 2011 at 08:47

Being an anti-feminist means never having to say you’re sorry.

Lyn87 April 9, 2011 at 08:52

On a side note, I was playing a video game with some buddies yesterday (my wife was in the other room and I don’t live in anyone’s basement, btw). We use a VOIP to talk to each other since we’ll all in different parts of the country and I told the other guys about the “Dear Woman” video. The went to watch it and one of the guys who’s gay and in his 20′s started laughing like a hyena on crank. When he finally caught his breath he blurted out, “They are SO gay!”

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bruno April 9, 2011 at 09:16

50 workers of the fukushima nuclear plant sacrificed their lives to save others.
http://theweek.com/article/index/213796/are-the-fukushima-50-doomed-to-death
I wonder how many of them are women

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andybob April 9, 2011 at 09:36

Being an anti-feminist means never having to say you’re sorry

You’re absolutely right , Jack. Apology withdrawn.

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Vortac April 9, 2011 at 10:19

“But the wisest men exploit it. These are your pick up artists.”

There is nothing wise about discarding your integrity and honesty so you can worship your most carnal lusts (and supplicating to women’s rules of social interaction).

That’s a most unwise thing to do – to trade your most noble self for some STD-infested hairy hole.

- Vortac

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Carnivore April 9, 2011 at 10:42

I wonder how many of them are women

No need to wonder. You can guess zero, naught, nil, 0 and be pretty sure you’ll be 99.9999999% correct.

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andybob April 9, 2011 at 11:12

Being anti-feminist means never having to say you’re sorry.

That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.

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Anonymous April 9, 2011 at 14:28

Its really quite hilarious.

The very reason the world is in turmoil is because its TOO feminine, the West is terminal & when a civilization hits ‘point of no return’, that means Woman’s rule. Of course, civilization being a left brain creation, catering to logic & intellect, they can’t possibly manage it and so the whole apparatus becomes so watery & indistinct its passes into dissolution & comes crashing down. Only this time its on a global scale and the crash is going to be the biggest fucking blowout in all of recorded history.

The next age won’t be left brain, it’ll be right brain & holistic.Intellect can only take us so far, so its back to the Garden we go. This was the age of Man & its almost complete. i wont apologize for that though, it is what it is you stupid new agers. I won’t beg for mercy from Mother Earth, cause it won’t make the slightest bit of difference. Hell hath no fury & all that.There was no concioius plan on the part of most men of the world to repress the feminine, its just the by-product of our fallen state (Oh how women take everything so personally). You’re going to get what you want, we will return to grass huts but first the entire thing needs to burn to the ground & that includes you, Oprah audience & oh-so-wronged woman kind. Small solace

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Jack Donovan April 9, 2011 at 14:34

Uh, andybob…

That was joke, a play on words, a humorous literary device if you will…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_means_never_having_to_say_you're_sorry

Jack Donovan April 9, 2011 at 14:37

Oh damn. Now that I looked it up, you were being even funnier. Got it.

Sorry, never saw the movie. Just knew of the quote.

Thought that was an odd response!

Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) April 9, 2011 at 15:28

SingleDad April 8, 2011 at 17:43
“I would love to come visit you in Germany”

Just hang on to my email address then, eh?

Alexamenos April 8, 2011 at 18:59
“That video is gayer than two men having butt sex.”

This is why I like coming here…..some very witty comments…..

now..where is that dishwasher to clean the red wine off my keyboard…

Paradoxotaur April 8, 2011 at 19:20
“mayer”

Damn. I have a friend called maya.

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BeijaFlor April 9, 2011 at 15:56

Uncle Elmer April 8, 2011 at 09:53

A while back I posted on Arjuna’s site that while he is worshiping his woman she is likely getting rogered by some surly bad-boy in gabardine slacks.

I for one have noticed this fetish Uncle Elmer has for gabardine slacks.

To his credit, they certainly look much nicer than the hung-round-the-ass bluejeans and rap wear that we see on the MTV generations.

Unfortunately, they just aren’t practical sailing wear. White ducks and Topsiders were invented for a reason. (Unfortunately, few nice-looking leather shoes are less suitable for ballroom dancing than Topsiders with their razor-siped nonskid soles.)

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) April 9, 2011 at 15:59

could be worse….it could be this scene..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a2Sc0Tuqp8&feature=related

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Edric April 9, 2011 at 20:15

I’m all for making a parody of this Dear Woman video…

Dear woman,

We are truly sick creatures indeed. Our mindless nature has caused you to be the primary victims of war. You have lost your brothers, you husbands, you fathers, and you sons.

By merging our energies, both feminine and masculine, we hope to gain an understanding. You are goddesses in your own right, and our gender can be goddesses too…

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Saige April 9, 2011 at 20:41

Charlatans.

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andybob April 10, 2011 at 00:49

Mr Donovan,
Hesitated quoting Streisand dialogue after bashing mega queerness. Then I thought, WTF. You were mighty quick on the uptake though. Kudos to you,
Andybob

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Anonymous April 10, 2011 at 01:11

As far as war we women are sorry that like the animal kingdom males don’t carry value for the simple fact that they exist as females do and as such compete for territory and resources. We are sorry that male animals are born with horns and implements of battle to secure the things we females want and then blame you for the nature we demand in you. We are sorry for all the stacked bodies of dead 18 year old boys that come home in body bags. We are sorry that all the lines between tribes and countries since the beginning of time are drawn in your blood while we have been largely spared the burdens of the worst aspects of the human condition.

How about dear men, we are sorry we women are pussies and have made you responsible for taking on all the burdens dangers and risks of forging human kind ahead and make you entirely responsible for the human? condition because we prefer to use our inherent value in order to get you to do all these things for us and then blame you for anything we don’t like about the nature we created in you. We are also sorry that women’s health, wellbeing and needs in all regard are more important than men’s and we would rather you die in order to save ourselves.

Is there anyway we men can help these Kangaroos with their “toxic masculinity” while they fight to draw lines between territory and resources and the females surely blame them for their aggressive nature which like male humans has been mostly a creative and constructive force which females (like the ones obliviously grazing on grass in the background) benefit by with no effort but the posession their golden vaginas???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVq7Mo6LY-A

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Red0660 April 10, 2011 at 01:17

As far as war we women are sorry that like the animal kingdom males don’t carry value for the simple fact that they exist as females do and as such compete for territory and resources. We are sorry that male animals are born with horns and implements of battle to secure the things we females want and then blame you for the nature we demand in you. We are sorry for all the stacked bodies of dead 18 year old boys that come home in body bags. We are sorry that all the lines between tribes and countries since the beginning of time are drawn in your blood while we have been largely spared the burdens of the worst aspects of the human condition.

How about dear men, we are sorry we women are pussies and have made you responsible for taking on all the burdens dangers and risks of forging human kind ahead and make you entirely responsible for the human? condition because we prefer to use our inherent value in order to get you to do all these things for us and then blame you for anything we don’t like about the nature we created and DEMAND you have. We are also sorry that women’s health, wellbeing and needs in all regard are more important than men’s and we would rather you die in order to save ourselves. We are sorry for the burdens we place upon you to carry us on your backs since the beginning of time.

P.S. get this video on over to the conscious, luminous, sentient beings who made the dear woman video right away..the Kangaroos in the video below need their help….

Is there anyway we men can help these Kangaroos with their “toxic masculinity” while they fight to draw lines between territory and resources and the females surely blame them for their aggressive nature which like male humans has been mostly a creative and constructive force (that females benefit from by putting forth no more effort than their golden vaginas???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVq7Mo6LY-A

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Red0660 April 10, 2011 at 01:43

OK now here is some balance for you from their conscious women facebook page: Very well written. This is something men don’t hear because of the brow beating we receive on a regular basis. Conversely the message in the conscious men video is something beaten into us by our gynocentric female dominated matriarchy….
https://www.facebook.com/pages/A-Manifesto-for-Conscious-Women/197663356919138?sk=info

Dear Men,

I come to you today as a woman committed to becoming more conscious in every way. I feel deep love and great respect for the gifts of the masculine. I also feel deep sorrow about the destructive actions of the unconscious feminine in the past and present. I want to apologize to you and make amends for those actions, in order to bring forth a new era of co-creation with you.

As I become more conscious, I grow more aware of the play of masculine and feminine energies: within me, within you, and in all of life. I know that we all have access to the full spectrum of these energies. I also have a growing awakening to the dimension beyond all dualities, free and open as the sky.

I commit to owning and stewarding a femininity that honors and celebrates us as equals. I know that in order to truly honor you as a multi-dimensional man, I must stand fully present in myself, and own the gifts I have to share with you. We can create great miracles together by nurturing each other in a conscious way, by treating each other with reverence and respect, and by worshiping the divinity expressed in both masculine and feminine energy.

As a woman, I feel sorrow that men and masculine energy have been devalued for so many thousands of years on our planet. Everywhere we look, men have been scape-goated. Throughout history, we have blamed and abused you, made you responsible for our wellbeing – both physically and mentally, used sex as a weapon against you, barred you from the comfort of our acceptance, support, and love unless we get our way and you did enough to EARN it, manipulated you into doing our bidding, dishonored you and your contributions simply because you are men, blamed you all for what historically a fraction of your gender have perpetrated on both genders – not exclusively women, and even allowed and supported the act of cutting off part of your organs of sexual pleasure.

Although I may not have done these things personally, I am aware of the forces in the feminine psyche that are responsible for dishonoring the masculine. I take responsibility for those forces and choose no longer to be run by them. I do this on behalf of all women, in order to usher in a new era of co-creation.

I vow to treat your heart as the sacred temple it is, and I commit to celebrating the masculine in my relationships as well as in my relationship to all life.

As a woman, I acknowledge that the religions of the past several thousand years have been mainly founded by and propagated by men. As women, we have dropped the ball in our responsibility spiritually to humanity by allowing ourselves to live our lives from a victim mentality and ceased to bring our full spiritual expression to the table for everyone. We have allowed ourselves to indulge in being bitter and blaming something outside ourselves for the way our lives show up – namely … you. We have refused to support masculine expression of spirituality and confused that expression with the expression of Christianity, destructive behaviors, and actions that repress feminine expressions. As a woman, I acknowledge that masculine spiritual expressions of spirituality are every bit as valuable as those expressed by women and that they are not seen in those destructive acts. They exist and they are beautiful, meaningful, valid, and valuable. I honor your pathways of spiritual awakening. I commit to the celebration of masculine spirituality.

As a woman, I honor your deep connection to the earth. As women, our relationship to our planet, its resources, its weather, its oceans and its forests has for too long suffered because we were too full of blame and shame to get up off our asses and do something productive – rather than blame you for the condition of the environment. Instead we chose to sit around belly-aching about it and demanding you do something. We made our wellbeing contingent on what you do or do not do. I commit to living my life from a position of self empowerment and taking action to heal our planet and make it thrive. I will no longer live my life from a victim mentality.

As a woman, I honor your logic and your ability to act. As women, we have often devalued logic and action in favor of a view dominated by feeling and intuition. I commit to respecting the arts of logic, action and wisdom found in the masculine heart, so that together we can integrate them into a balanced view of life.

As a woman, I love the beauty of your body. I feel sorrow that we women have often ignored the beauty of the masculine body and even contributed negatively to the manner in which you see yourselves by instigating the belief that men’s bodies are not as beautiful as women’s and that their parts are clumsy and unattractive. We have contributed to your feelings of insecurity by rejecting you as a gender, and attempting to emasculate you and force you to behave more like us. I take a stand against any form of devaluating or emasculating action or non-action, and I respect that your body is sacred like mine is.

I honor your capacity for swift, logical, and concise action in the resolution of conflicts. We women have waged endless covert wars over our personal disagreements. We welcome your contributions of wisdom in creating a world that can get along.

I honor your capacity to listen to your mind & body and its needs for food, rest and playtime. As women, our preoccupation with verbal communication and exploration of emotional experiences has often driven us into a burn out mentality. I know we have often drawn you into that as well. I welcome your reminders to maintain balance in our minds & bodies.

I honor your sense of compassionate justice. In our justice system, many of your brothers have dominated as judges and police, built prisons, and set punishment as a higher value than restitution. I see that you do not share in this view. I welcome you to bring the return of the heart to our system of justice.

I honor your capacity to pay attention to what may come, in the future. As women, we often get overly-focused on the here and now, and forget how valuable the skill of forethought is in the evolution of our species. We place so much emphasis on being in the moment, and processing every emotion — that we often forget to consider the repercussions and consequences of such a narrow focus. I know that together we can co-create in bringing forth the wisdom of sufficiency.

I know that in joining hands, and leaving the past behind we can create a synergy of our strengths. I know, and I know that you know, that then there is nothing that we cannot do together.

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Red0660 April 10, 2011 at 02:06

Unfortunately gynocentrism is a part of female nature and an element of behavior allowed of them by the process of sexual selection. Women will never be as yielding and accommodating to men as men are to women. Women won their “liberation” without a shot fired. It will not be so easy for men to gain or achieve what we need from women.

If any gender is in need of reflection and making amends women certainly have a lot more work to do. If any gender needs to reflect upon any imbalance between genders it is women who have a lot of work to do.

We are currently above our heads and drowning in a female dominated matriarchy. We are all suffering for it..A system I might add that historically speaking has never survived very long.

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Red0660 April 10, 2011 at 02:22

Women’s actual needs and the achievement of balance with men is overrided by hypergamy and the resulting gynocentrism embodied in it which will bring the imbalence to an ever increasing extreem .

I will venture to say that given enough institutional authority as women have that the dark road we are traveling down can not be reversed. I also think that either consciously or unconsciously men have always been aware of this and have been weary of giving women such authority. Men know full well her gynocentric and hypergamous nature and historically speaking have done well to protect themselves and society from it.

The below is a quote from Cato the Censor upon the deliberations of repealing a law which women were championing for. The law pertained to women being allowed to parade themselves in public in purple cloth which was a sign of luxury and wealth as well as wear gold men had brought them back from war. Common contention among men was the conservative value that women should remain graceful and conservative in their public behavior. Modesty is something men have always requested of women.

The above “slut march” video resembles the behavior of the women of the Roman Rebublic when it was on its decent into dictatorship.

“If, then, you suffer (give suffrage to) them to throw these off one by one, to tear them all asunder, and, at last, to be set on an equal footing with yourselves, can you imagine that they will be any longer tolerable? Suffer them once to arrive at an equality with you, and they will from that moment become your superiors.”

-Cato the Censor (234–149 B.C.) Rome (215 B.C.)

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mgtow April 10, 2011 at 10:33

Women are natural born attention whores.

This Slutwalk exercise is not unlike women fighting for the right to breastfeed in public.

Seriously you twats, you can do whatever you want without raising a hoo-ha about it. However, if you get arrested for contravening some local public decency laws (yes, these laws extend to men too), don’t whine about being ‘oppressed’ or ‘discriminated’. I’m tired of your BS and histrionics.

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Bill Magistrale April 10, 2011 at 13:59

Are you not sure that this isn’t some parody from Saturday Night Live! If these men are for real, the only thing that will cure them is a couple of years in the French Foreign Legion!

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JFP April 10, 2011 at 14:13

One section of this hilarious apologist video that I found absurd in its hypocrisy was that line at around the 2min mark about “cutting off organs of sexual pleasure” aka female genital mutilation/circumcision.

It reminded me of a interview in a Penn & Teller show on circumcision with an expecting mom. She (Misty) wanted her son to always “fit in” with society.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6QI5IoWP50

Queue the vid to 3:58 or so for her justifications and women on the street interviews…

So, where are all the women “dear men” videos apologizing for the genital mutilation done to their sons?

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Sam April 10, 2011 at 14:53

whats the difference between asceticism and Stoicism?

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Jack Donovan April 10, 2011 at 18:41

Red0660 – That Cato quote is excellent.

Seamus the Classicist April 10, 2011 at 22:17

@Sam,

The difference, offhand, is that Stoicism is an encompassing philosophy and asceticism is a manner of life. A Stoic will embrace objectivism, and Epicurian will embrace subjectivism.

Consider that both Benedictine monks and Buddhist monks practice asceticism, but that is where the similarities end: the two groups’ reasons, goals, beliefs are very divergent.

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Angus McQueen April 11, 2011 at 13:13

These sad creatures probably like dressing up like English schoolboys and like getting punished by a woman dressed up like an Headmistress! Roleplaying like his is typical of men who aren’t complete.

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Red0660 April 11, 2011 at 15:25

More on the general philosophy and supporting religious construct developed by feminists and female supremacists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4vPyClAHqs&

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Red0660 April 11, 2011 at 15:42

“Red0660 – That Cato quote is excellent.”

Thank you Jack. Yea I mean to me anyway, the point is that women already have inherent power over men, give them institutional power over men, the judicial, political and public realm of social policy along with the associated governance over the distribution of resources and they will quickly divert the system in more so a gynocentric fashion than men have already done. In fact their male workhorses of the matriarchy will do it for them:

The below is why the dominant female majority vote overwhelmingly vote for male candidates. Men do their bidding for them….like we have always done. The results you see in the video are only the beginning of what Cato was talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdafJpieIJ0

They will no longer live in harmony with men to provide such things to them…they will demand it and control it. They are doing so now. I have a good inclination to believe that it will not stop anytime soon but that does not stop men from being able to respond to this in our personal lives and even as a collective class.

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XP April 11, 2011 at 16:20

The video was disgusting and pretty disturbing. BUT…

I do think some of those guys are hetero, and are acting submissive and apologetic to work into the good graces of women, in order to score. Shameless losers. I have the feeling also that even feminists wouldn’t find such weak-kneed dweebs to be attractive.

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Carnivore April 11, 2011 at 18:09

I have a good inclination to believe that it will not stop anytime soon but that does not stop men from being able to respond to this in our personal lives and even as a collective class.

As Vox and others have stated, it would appear no society can survive more than about 100 years after giving women the vote. It most definitely will not stop since taking the vote away from women is not possible. Things will continue to get worse until society collapses at which time the vote will be taken away from women – not necessarily by direct action, but by making the vote irrelevant. We’re essentially at that point already in the USA.

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Red0660 April 11, 2011 at 18:21

“As Vox and others have stated, it would appear no society can survive more than about 100 years after giving women the vote. It most definitely will not stop since taking the vote away from women is not possible. Things will continue to get worse until society collapses at which time the vote will be taken away from women – not necessarily by direct action, but by making the vote irrelevant. We’re essentially at that point already in the USA.”

Agreed, it can not go on forever. When female politics are observed they are overwhelmingly gynocentric to the point where it consumes the system of its own means of production and in the case of men, the incentive, enfranchisement and even means to produce. To me this is made quite clear in the video Workhorses of The Matriarchy. The video clearly demonstrates female political agency in action. With the institution of the great federal Council On Women and Girls it will only get worse.

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swift April 12, 2011 at 05:59

Wow – those guys were creepy and gross. They seriously did look brainwashed. Or like zombies.
It’s interesting to me that this blog, while often presenting viewpoints counter to my own, can also make me nod my head in agreement. I don’t hate feminists or male feminists, but I definitely think they have a narrow view of the world, and one that is unfair to the human race as a whole.
And I love this quote: “women are human animals pursuing their own selfish interests—just like men”. True that!

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Doug April 13, 2011 at 12:30

The “Dear Women” video makes me sick.

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David K. Meller April 14, 2011 at 17:46

Dear Red0660

Thank you for the kind and insightful words. You are absolutely right that we men are much stronger with women who love us than we are alone; one reason, no doubt, that modern women–and their governments–have worked so hard trying to keep us as rivals or enemies!

There is a growing awareness on the part of men that the path offered by feminists is doing nothing but spirilling us down into the morass of a dreadful “New World Order” which has all the hallmarks of slavery on a global scale, a political system run by corrupt banks and Multinational corporations which, in many ways combines the worst aspects of both XX century capitalism and socialism. Feminism is an important aspect of the ideology characteristic of this globalist monstrosity.

We must both–as men and as women–work together to foil the work of those who would set us against each other to forge such a future of hell on Earth for us all!

Your essay at least opens a possible opportunity to do this! As a woman, you can probably say things to disgusting modern women–however defective that they are–that we couldn’t. When you get other women, especially younger ones, to follow your lead, this would be so much the better! Even if you can’t–and feminists DO hate traditional and feminine women even more than they hate men–the delusion promoted by the NWO that “women” speak with one voice will be permanantly broken!

If I sound pessimistic in this post, I don’t mean to. Red0660, the fact of the matter is that the laws of biology and nature are on OUR side! Real liberation– the freedom TO embrace the masculine (for men,) or the feminine (for women)–as strictly opposed to THEIR phony freedom FROM traditional gender identity, inheres to your ideas, and ours!

For all of the chatter, gabble, and “empowerment” nonsense of feminists (and their ‘male’ lapdogs) we see nothing but deeply defective, embittered, and frankly, inferior women. We see women who seek power over men as a deeply felt, and permanantly unfulfilled, sense of their own feminine identity being one of love, nurturance,and harmony–NOT power, not authority, and not leadership–a sense of frustration and bitterness that has festered for almost half a century now, and is probably on a path of irreversible decline. One may be concerned about whether these dreadful creatures–and their male(?) hangers-on, haven’t damaged our society and economy in the name of their spurious “equality” to the extent that really major readjustments must transpire, impoverishing millions around the world, while the natural gender order reasserts itself.

Once again, thank you for your appreciation of the masculine, and your understanding of why we are trying so hard to beat back these truly vicious, defective, and hateful womyn (and grrrlz)! The divine in man–and woman–can only be realized, if at all, by appreciation of the DIFFERENT and unequal, although COMPLEMENTARY characters of both male and female. Sameness, still worse, reversal, lead nowhere!

PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller

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Millineal April 14, 2011 at 18:56

“Feminism is the radical notion that men should stop doing whatever women say, so that women can do whatever the hell they want.”

Didn’t you mean to write:

Feminism is the radical notion that men should START doing whatever women say, so that women can do whatever the hell they want.

????

Also, to be fair, Arjun Ardagh and his wife promote a way of being in relationship in which BOTH parties worship the other as a god or goddess respectively.

Its not just woman worship exclusively.

Its partner worship.

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Jack Donovan April 15, 2011 at 23:25

“Didn’t you mean to write:

Feminism is the radical notion that men should START doing whatever women say, so that women can do whatever the hell they want.”

No. I wrote it the way I meant it, but I’ll admit the phrasing needs some tweaking to be 100% clear.

Feminists most often tell men what not to do–what they must STOP doing–while they insist that women should be able to do or say whatever they want.

Also, to be fair, Arjun Ardagh and his wife promote a way of being in relationship in which BOTH parties worship the other as a god or goddess respectively.

Its not just woman worship exclusively.

Its partner worship.

May I offer you some Flavor-Aid?

alpha April 16, 2011 at 04:32

[[Also, to be fair, Arjun Ardagh and his wife promote a way of being in relationship in which BOTH parties worship the other as a god or goddess respectively.][]

being worshipped as a God?
I am listening.

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Opus April 16, 2011 at 11:43

I understand that women’s sites find the Video ‘creepy’ – rather as one might expect!

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Millineal April 22, 2011 at 13:35

“May I offer you some Flavor-Aid?”

Jack, unless you’re involved in that circle, which from your sexual orientation I will assume that you are not, then you wouldn’t know.

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Millineal April 22, 2011 at 13:39

“I understand that women’s sites find the Video ‘creepy’ – rather as one might expect!”

Only because the 2 main men are old and ugly.

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Anonymous Woman May 17, 2011 at 18:51

For what it’s worth, as a woman, I find that conscious men video NAUSEATING! Uuuggghhhh… I feel so sorry for them all. Don’t they realize they are just perpetuating a litany of both male and female stereotypes?

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