Women’s Fantasy in Anime/Manga Culture

by Featured Guest on March 14, 2011

By Neurogal

I know that most of the men’s right movement concerns are within Western world, but as women universally are the same, I would like to share what women typically desire in the Japanese subculture that I have been a fan of for 10 years now: the anime/manga culture. As Japan is now in the headlines, and we are all wishing them well in the midst of this disaster, maybe it is appropriate to give some thought to Japan’s culture.

So what kind of men do Japanese women want? The anime/manga culture can provide some insight as currently more women than men are fans of this culture, and the industry has changed accordingly to meet the demands of the female readers base.

Let’s take one of popular fictional guys in manga. Hibari Kyouya, from the manga Kateikyoushi Hitman Reborn (literally means Home Tutor Hitman Reborn), is a leader of the middle school discplinary comittee. Yet he beats a guy to a bloody pulp if said guy broke one simple rule. He is also involved in blackmailing, extortion, underground crimes and underage driving. Later Hibari Kyouya is said to be the strongest guy within the characters.

Hibari Kyouya is also the No 1 Character “I Want To Be My Groom” for both years in two annual Japanese surveys.

Yes, he is the epitome of what Japanese women want. They don’t seem to mind that if this were real life, Hibari Kyouya would be arrested for his violent tendencies. Granted, Hibari Kyouya is not a player; he has little interest in women, and he has a soft spot for animals. But nevertheless, he is violent. His catchphrase is “I’ll bite you to death.”

But how about the No 1 Character chosen as “I Want To Be My Bride?” The first year was won by Hinagiku Katsura from Hayate The Combat Butler and the second is Akiyama Mio from K-On. The similarities between these two? They are what fans love to call “tsundere”.

Tsundere is the type of girl one would call “independent.” They are top students in academics, excel in sports and are often the student council president. But then the hero appears. Suddenly, this independent girls is rendered to speechless. They stutter, blush and wanted to get the attention of the hero as subtle as she can. She somehow become more feminine, cared how she looks and shy around the hero. This type of girls are a hit with both male and female readers.

Why is that? From my observation, tsundere fulfills the fantasy of both the men and women. In modern society, more women became like the tsundere. In the manga, the hero will eventually fall in love with the tsundere. In reality, no, guys usually pay less attention to these kind of girls. The female readers used this as sort of escapism from reality, where they projected themselves to the tsundere.

For the men, they love these kind of girls (as the survey shows) because it shows no matter how independent or amazing that girl is, she will be submissive to the guy she likes. She could kick a guy over to the moon, but with the hero she eagerly wanted to please him. This, I suppose, gives a great boost to the men’s ego because the hero successfully tamed the girl (usually with no effort from the hero).

As tsundere are well-liked, female fans really hate any normal, childish and non-assertive girls as potential love interest. These female characters are hated simply because she is plain with average grades and suck at sports. The girl is shy all the time and always support the hero in the background. Many female characters who fall into this category are hated and female fans wanted a girl with ‘more backbone’ and as strong as the hero to be the female lead.

Another genre that is popular with female fans is “yaoi”. Yaoi is the male homosexual love anime/manga. Interestingly, in this subculture, the female fans accept the submissive-dominant relationship between the two guys, giving the guys the title uke( submissive) and seme(dominance). Ironically, this mirrors the heterosexual relationship between a girl and guy as the uke actually acts like a girl/feminine. Research papers on yaoi admit this is another projection of female readers to the uke. Acting feminine as a girl is seen as dependent, but if it is a guy he is still seen as independent even though both act the same. It is said the Japanese perception of women has contributed to this.

Whether feminism contributed to the above situation is something uncertain. However as I read English comments, this has held true for Western women as well. There are still many of my observations in this culture about female fans and their expectations, especially in fanfictions.

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Aharon March 14, 2011 at 09:08

Interesting post. Thanks.

A few months ago, I read at the Angry Harry site a piece that had covered a TV interview of a leading Japanese female anime writer. She had stated that in Japan, unlike America/the West, society is open to publicly discussing sexual fantasies. The woman went on to share (love that word, not!) that the most powerful fantasy for women is to be raped. She stressed that it is fantasy only and Not a real life situation the women want to experience. Angry Harry (who is a professional therapist) went on to hypothesize that people being people those same fantasies for women probably exist in the West too.

It couldn’t get any more non-PC friendly for the feminists if such a study and findings were released here in the West. Of course, we could expect feminists to release one of their own bogus studies claiming bogus facts and numbers concluding that women just want ‘equality’ during the sex act.

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Wilson March 14, 2011 at 09:31

By nature, guys like girls who are sweet, submissive and feminine. The only reason I can see for this shift in what the Japanese guys like (a pseudo tough girl) is the coercive mindfuck that feminism has had on their psyches pressured into saying they like a certain type of “girl” which feminists approve of. I put “girl” in quotes because if every female acted like the pseudo-tough girl arch type that feminism promote, girls would cease to make guys’ cock tingle.

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Angelo March 14, 2011 at 09:41

Women want the outlaw, the criminal, the dangerous exciting guy.

If they actually had one, chances are they would be alone while their man was in jail or the grave, they would be in jail themselves, or they would be dumped when the bad boy moved on to another women.

Fantasy is not overly harmful I guess, as long as the fantasizer realized that it is just that, and not allow it to drift over into reality. Unfortunately, this is easier said that done, especially for the average woman who is often more emotionally than logically driven.

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Herbal Essence March 14, 2011 at 09:41

Aharon- “The woman went on to share (love that word, not!) that the most powerful fantasy for women is to be raped.”

A brilliant commenter at The Spearhead (I forget who) said that women assume all men are potential rapists, because they (the women) think about rape all the time.

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Rod March 14, 2011 at 09:44

Thank you for this insightful and informative article. Japan is my area of professional research and teaching, but I work mainly with traditional culture and know very little about anime and manga. (Many of my students, however, are very into it, so I need to pay more attention to it just to be conversant with them.) Frankly, the rape fantasies don’t surprise me at all. Feminists always huff and steam about what they call rape in Japan’s foremost classic, the 11th century Tale of Genji, but they ignore the fact that it was written by a woman and its first generation of readership was almost exclusively female. And you don’t have to go back that far; similar fantasizing is evident in the “domestic dramas,” which are their version of soap operas, viewed maily by women. Are women here really all that different? I know many of them who devour checkout-lane romances, the ones with the steamy covers, the ones few men would be caught dead reading.

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Keyster March 14, 2011 at 10:10

Women who fantasize about rape or being “taken” by force are not uncommon. Men who fantasize about rape or “taking” a woman by force is very uncommon. Men who fantasize about a woman taking them by force is almost unheard of.

This natural dominant/submissive dynamic in the sex act drives feminists crazy. They can’t reconcile it, no matter how hard they’ve tried.

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Nergal March 14, 2011 at 10:10

Great article,I can tell you’re really passionate about this subject and it’s one not many Western men are familiar with so I thank you for bringing it to our attention.

The following sentence,though, sticks in my craw.

“This, I suppose, gives a great boost to the men’s ego because the hero successfully tamed the girl (usually with no effort from the hero).”

We keep hearing about this “male ego” and I think maybe this comment sheds some light on WHY we’re always hearing about it. Now this is an example of projection. Most men do not derive pleasure from “taming a girl” and it has nothing to do with our ego. I realize the only way women can understand why we find sexually submissive females attractive is through the lens of their own experiences, in which their self-esteem is based on how many and which kinds of guys they can “tame” but men are not like that.

We are attracted to sexually submissive girls because sexually submissive girls are attractive. It’s really that simple. It has nothing to do with our egos. I could give a shit less about taming a woman. I would prefer that she is already on the same page with me before I even start talking to her.

Nature gave us a mandate to reproduce, and gave our brains the understanding of which kind of girls are most interested in reproducing, and that type is the type you mention, the ones who are submissive. It’s like a visual green light for sex and it turns us on, it’s not even a process that registers in our minds when it’s happening,it’s completely automatic.

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Rebel March 14, 2011 at 10:24

But the trend in Japan is changing very quickly.
Who doesn’t know by now about the “Herbivores”?

http://eurasian-sensation.blogspot.com/2009/05/japans-herbivores-or-metrosexuals.html

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Vanyo March 14, 2011 at 10:26

Men looking for independent/empowered women are really just looking for themselves.

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Aharon March 14, 2011 at 10:34

A brilliant commenter at The Spearhead (I forget who) said that women assume all men are potential rapists, because they (the women) think about rape all the time.

— That commenter is brilliant indeed. Let us know if you recall his name, Herbal Essence. :)

Are women here really all that different? I know many of them who devour checkout-lane romances, the ones with the steamy covers, the ones few men would be caught dead reading.

Men who fantasize about rape or “taking” a woman by force is very uncommon.

— BTW, that article at Angry Harry did mention that raping a woman was Not one of the leading male fantasies in Japan.
Sorry feminists and women lurkers here at the Spearhead most men are not sexually interested in you that way! Actually on a daily basis, more men are MGTOW and ghosting and not interested in you at all.

We keep hearing about this “male ego” and I think maybe this comment sheds some light on WHY we’re always hearing about it. Now this is an example of projection. Most men do not derive pleasure from “taming a girl” and it has nothing to do with our ego. I realize the only way women can understand why we find sexually submissive females attractive is through the lens of their own experiences, in which their self-esteem is based on how many and which kinds of guys they can “tame” but men are not like that.

Brilliant insights. Those comments originally didn’t register with me as I am so used to hearing that nonsense from women about men’s supposed egos when it really is a twisted projection by a woman of her own ego. Women is seems definitely enjoy playing the courtship dating chase game more than men. After working all day, who the Hell wants to spend so much more energy jumping through hoops for a high maintenance wench to tame? Especially these days, a woman ‘who so needs taming’ will probably re-emerge as the bitching demanding girlfriend-wife nightmare divorce waiting to happen.

As usual, women imagine they understand men by projecting their twisted weak egos onto us demonizing us men. What does it really say about women’s inner true nature when empowered by government and society and not held accountable?

Men, MGTOW, ghost, and stop being manginas, providers, and protectors.

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SingleDad March 14, 2011 at 10:52

Well, in the US when your choices are empowered dominating women, passive stay at home dominating parasites and women that just can’t keep their legs closed and are dominating and will make you feel like shit for them cheating on you, which do you choose?

I won’t even hire a US escort. Europeans say even US escorts have unbearable personalities.

I believe that the future of the US is herbivores. My son’s teenage friends have no drive, ambition or sense of self worth.

I choose the profession I am in at this age. In 15 years, our young men will be right where the young Japaneze men are today. No prospects, no ambition and no hope.

And their female cohorts will be looking overseas for husbands from China. And they have plenty of extra men with a good work ethic who have not been beaten down and totally demoralized by school.

After destroying their own men, you think women will stop there?

They have their eyes set on world feminist hegemony.

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POD March 14, 2011 at 10:54

Aside from rape fantasies, women do subtly acknowledge that rape isn’t as terrible as they make it out to be. They bitch and moan about how bad rape is because if they didn’t , i.e, if they accepted rape or were ambiguous to it, they’d arouse a lot more suspicions – from fathers, husbands of their fidelity to their partners and paternity, and they’d not have as much leverage to get men to pay for sex. In other words, their protestations against rape are more to cover up their dishonesty in sexual dealings , affirm their pretense of disinterest in sex so as to maintain monopoly to charge higher rates in return for sexual favours to men.

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Keyster March 14, 2011 at 11:14

“It’s like a visual green light for sex and it turns us on, it’s not even a process that registers in our minds when it’s happening, it’s completely automatic.”

I’m reminded of the tactic women once employed more frequently of dropping something on purpose or acting helpless about something to gain the attention of a man they were interested in. This was before the days of “empowerment” and “independence” or the shift to the new standard of a more surly and recalcitrant attitude towards men in general.

Younger guys wouldn’t be familiar with the “mating dance” before the 70′s. They’ve been taught that women need to be “tamed”, much like men used to have to be. They’ve never known anything else.

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Ryu March 14, 2011 at 11:21

We are tip-toeing around the most important question:
“Do women respect a man more or less for raping her? Is rape good?”

Putting aside all modern morality, I can percieve weakness in the man who asks permission, who wants a woman but is unwilling to take her. He does not dare, he does not take the risk. I have noted this very phenomenon in romance novels.

I remember thisbook of Bukowski’s where he was staying at this woman’s house. They exchange words:
B: Don’t worry, I’m harmless. I won’t rape you.
Woman: Why not? (anxiously)

How much this reveals of the female psychology.

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Rebel March 14, 2011 at 11:30

@Singledad

“And their female cohorts will be looking overseas for husbands from China. ”

I can’t really dispute that. I would say it’s anybody’s guest. But I would lean the other way: Chinese men do not like Western women too much.
And Western women feel much the same about Asian males.

I tend to think that once Western women have antagonized enough of “their” men, they will run out of choices.

I have a feeling that the blonde Aryan woman is on her way to extinction in the medium to long term range.

We must remember that feminism is a product of Marxism. And Marxism has been designed with one goal in mind: to undermine Western civilization. Perhaps even destroy it. Women have, of course, bought into the lie and as a consequence they will be the first to go extinct.

Where I fully agree with you, SingleDad, is when you say that our young men, being less and less ambitious, will convert into something that will resemble the Japanese Grass Eaters. The settings are very similar: the previous generation of men in Japan was totally addicted to work… very much like the way American men are: workaholics. The herbivore is in reaction to that. So, the same thing can very well happen to America. (I like to include Canada in it)

The Peter Pan syndrome can be seen as a foreplay of things to come.

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SingleDad March 14, 2011 at 11:39

@ Rebel

Maybe you are right. My real point is that western women do not care at all about the destruction of western men and would not care a whit if they had to go overseas to marry the winners of any engagement in which the US looses, and I mean, is taken over by.

Also, to bolster your argument, it seems like it’s not just the US and Japan developing a feminized population of young men:

Unease over a lack of masculinity and growing femininity amongst young Chinese men in their late teens and early 20s has some in the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) concerned about its possible impact on the People’s Liberation Army (PLA), according to an article published in the Study Times (????), a magazine affiliated with the China’s Central Party School Publishing House.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2011/03/05/2003497398

Interestingly they don’t seem as concerned as we are and are very concerened with the bullying these effimate boys might recieve in the military.

For us, if a boy in military comes home alive we fear him and he is discriminated against:

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/479/576/Janet_Napolitano:_Watch_out_for_homecoming_Vets,_theyre_well-trained,_theyre_killers_and_theyre_dangerous.html

Now tell me again how we live in a patriarchy.

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Traveller March 14, 2011 at 11:45

The different kinds of amine and manga are so many it is impossible in reality deduce something from them. Or you can deduce everything you want.

True, they are less restrained in exploring human sexual fantasies, just a tour in the various “chan” sites will show it. But they are so diverse and everyone has a niche.

When i was a little child I watched a lot of Japanese cartoons, those about giant robots like Mazinga. There were a few women, and they could be capable and intelligent. I do not remember any feminist anyway.

Today too, the female Japanese heroines are strong but they never mistreat men (like Sailor Moon just to make a famous example). Quite the opposite of Western comics, DC and Marvel, they will make you puke for the male demeaning they contain (just look at their covers).

In today Japanese comics, often is the female to express sexual interest, and the male counterpart can be anything, the evil, the timid student, the hero, the warrior.

Particular things of Japanese comic fiction is the real young age of the protagonists (the heroine is a school student and so on) – in the case of sexual content, this would border on underage sex (notice some download forums ban everything Japanese for this motive – Stockholm Syndrome). Second, there are very few adults around (the father works all day and he is rarely seen, the mother, if she appears, is for the classic housewiving tasks).

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Nergal March 14, 2011 at 12:15

I can’t really dispute that. I would say it’s anybody’s guest. But I would lean the other way: Chinese men do not like Western women too much.
And Western women feel much the same about Asian males.

I tend to think that once Western women have antagonized enough of “their” men, they will run out of choices.

I wouldn’t be so sure. I’ve watched women operate for many years and it doesn’t appear that they can “burn all of their holes” until they get old and ugly and nobody gives a shit about them anymore.

A man who is always borrowing money but never repaying it will eventually not be able to find anybody who will loan him money,a woman can murder her husband in his sleep in cold blood declaring that it was but the first of many men she intends to kill in an effort to exterminate the male sex altogether,and manginas will still step up to excuse and rationalize her cold-blooded ruthlessness, especially if she’s physically attractive. Just look at Pellessier.

The only thing that will check the western woman’s greed or self-indulgence is we refuse to quarter such types. Western men need to put a freeze on Western women’s tab and say “Uh uh,Princess. No more until you pay up.” and I think that’s what we’re attempting to do. Maybe this time men will make the right choice and band together against the exploitative western women instead of going “Durrr,those damned [x group] stole all our chicks!” and fighting other men like the evil bitches want us to do. That’s the mechanism that enables us to get screwed over again and again.

So I say if somebody else wants our western women, let them have them, (it’d be a huge relief,really) though knowing what I know about being a man, I doubt any man wants a ticking time bomb sleeping in their bed next to them at night.

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NWOslave March 14, 2011 at 12:40

Gender benders praying at the altar of equality changes nothing. There are reasons, and very correct ones that dictate the preferences of men and women. There are also biological/brain differences inherent to each.

Men are bigger/stronger, certain parts of mens brain are larger which enables men to invent/create. Men also mature intellectually/emotionally until around age 30.

Women are more delicate, have a better sense of smell. Women think emotionally virtually 24/7. Women mature intellectually/emotionally until around age 20.

Women want a man who can lead. This is the most important quality a woman seek’s in a man. The reason for this is because a woman naturally think’s inward, once she accept’s his leadership she is no longer trapped, she can now think outward relying on his leadership. She is now free to think about home/family, beyond herself. She is now free.

Men naturally think outward, which is why men have invented and built everything. So if a man lead’s, the qualities he value’s are loyalty and effectiveness in keeping the home/family in order. He is also now free, he can persue goal’s that benefit the home/family.

The state/media have artificially altered this perfect formula. The state has usurped the role of leader. Women turn to the state/media for advice on every aspect of their lives. The state gives women artificial, unearned power and wealth. The state/media falsely tells women you are independent of man, you don’t need him. I the state will protect, provide and guide you. I the state will force men to subsidize you and support and pay for your choices that I have granted you. I the state am your deity.

A womans happiness is predicated upon the leadership of a lone man which the state/media complex denies men. This is why womens happiness is at an all time low, they seek happiness where women have never, nor will ever find any.

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Aharon March 14, 2011 at 12:47

Chinese men do not like Western women too much.

Agreed. The gender imbalance in China might be somewhat met with Chinese men taking foreign brides from other less developed nations such as Vietnam, pacific islands, India, etc. While some of those women are somewhat tainted by feminism they are often still not as warped as those in the West.

Is there anyone left who does like Western women? Wait, there is one group who does. That group is the young foreign guys who are willing to ‘date’ wealthy older Western women (cougars) who loudly visit their countries demonstrating their strong and smart selves along with their sexual freedoms. Hey, we found a group of males for Western women!

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SingleDad March 14, 2011 at 12:49

Yet they say they want all men imprisoned or dead, they say it’s only the fringe feminists, from 3/8/2011 Jezebel (feminist ragazine):

thetechdonkey approved by Fri 11 Mar 2011 2:47 PM 1. Can we out this guy so that all his future employers and girlfriends see his name next to this in Google?
2. Really, the only solution is to take over the country–we’re better educated and more tolerant and loving–and place men in camps and farms for heavy labor and sperm donation. Those who have other more mental skills that are useful (mathematics and engineering) and are not deemed a threat can have electronic monitoring devices that allow them to interact with women at work for a few hours a day (Edit comment)
BrazenHussy Fri 11 Mar 2011 3:23 PM @thetechdonkey: Regarding number 2, this is simultaneously funny, sad, and sort of actually seems like a good idea sometimes. Sigh.

See how their going to be forced to take over the world because they are just better than us. There is no rebuttle to this, I posted the only response and it is confirmatory with the backhanded completement of saying, “it’s such a shame”.

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Nico March 14, 2011 at 13:25

There is an equivalent of the “yaoi” genre in romance novels. It’s called slash fiction:

“a new erotic sub-genre is analysed, written by and for women: ‘slash fiction’. ‘Slash’ depicts romantic and sexual relationships between heterosexual males, fictional characters from television and film, such as Star Trek ’s K/S (Captain Kirk and Mr Spock) – the term ‘slash’ denoting the punctuation mark that unites the pair. “

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Gendeau March 14, 2011 at 13:46

“we’re better educated and more tolerant and loving–and place men in camps and farms for heavy labor and sperm donation.”

But you’re tolerant and loving - WTF is going on inside their tiny effing minds?

Has anybody done a trawl of the femitwunt webisphere to cherry pick their ‘best ideas’?

teh wimminz are truly revolting

It’d be nice to counter a feminist who spouts garbage about what some male said on the web, with a list of SCUM etc

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Lovekraft March 14, 2011 at 14:44

I’ve collected comics for a long time, and will recommend Cerebus (by Dave Sim, one of the first real MRAs in the West. He took on the feministhomosexualist axis singlehandedly in Canada), as a masterpiece in unrecognized literature/art.

The great yet tenuous gift comic books give to a culture is its low production cost thereby allowing self-publishing, and being relatively free from MSM PC orthodoxy. I say tenuous because we all know the feminist juggernaut tries to stick its fingers in any medium it can corrupt. Still, there’s a lot of good cutting edge writing outside of the Marvel/DC pantheon.

Not sure of whether Japan’s manga industry is still ‘outside’ or whether it had been mainly co-opted by the culture. Most likely, it is similar to western comics in that one can find some truly barrier-pushing writing if one has the drive to do so.

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Aharon March 14, 2011 at 16:24

“we’re better educated and more tolerant and loving–and place men in camps and farms for heavy labor and sperm donation.”

But you’re tolerant and loving – WTF is going on inside their tiny effing minds?

The average radical feminist makes the most radical extreme MRA look like a fluffy bunny rabbit.

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fmz March 14, 2011 at 16:31

The femmys will simply put the r-fantasy down to the r-culture and label themselves victims of latent paytreearkee. Hear their hamsters now… da evil menz are so insidious they’ve programmed da whimminz for acceptance of sexual violence to the point that the poor deluded dearies dont even know they’ve been brainwashed. So much so, that they think they want it.

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Kathy March 14, 2011 at 21:06

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V3N0M1300 March 14, 2011 at 21:16

and your post contributes to the discussion how?

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DevilDog March 14, 2011 at 23:55

Kathy seems mad, bitter. From her posts she’s used a lot of shaming language and typical random insults (Presumably to make herself feel better since she can’t logically refute anything posted)..

Classic feminist in action :)

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Aharon March 15, 2011 at 00:12

kathy wrote: The omegas on here probably spend their time watching this-

Wasn’t that amazing how the anime girl could keep talking with that huge thing down her throat? Some of my guy friends tell me they like their girlfriends best that way so they stop talking their usual nonsense girl talk.

Anyways Kathy, you shouldn’t be so upset that you never had one so big as the guy has in the cartoon.

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Nergal March 15, 2011 at 01:54

“The omegas on here probably spend their time watching this-

http://www.hotanimebabes.net/show/hb1411/amazingly-hentai-honey-sucking-a-giant-penis-on-her-knees

Probably not. I’ve never seen much sense in ‘batin to cartoons when you can get a whore to stick an octopus in her pussy for the price of a cafe lattee at Starbucks,if that’s your thing. I think most most of the guys here probably feel the same way.

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Philip March 15, 2011 at 03:23

@Kathy, seems to me that it is YOU who watches crap like that, Tell me how many sexy cartoons did you go through before you picked that one?
ooooo you naughty Jesabell

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Troll King March 15, 2011 at 05:02

Awesome post. This makes so much sense now, I have known some geeky girls, the same type you find commenting on reddit, and they are all fucked in the head.

Aharon March 14, 2011 at 09:08
Interesting post. Thanks.

A few months ago, I read at the Angry Harry site a piece that had covered a TV interview of a leading Japanese female anime writer. She had stated that in Japan, unlike America/the West, society is open to publicly discussing sexual fantasies. The woman went on to share (love that word, not!) that the most powerful fantasy for women is to be raped. She stressed that it is fantasy only and Not a real life situation the women want to experience. Angry Harry (who is a professional therapist) went on to hypothesize that people being people those same fantasies for women probably exist in the West too.

It couldn’t get any more non-PC friendly for the feminists if such a study and findings were released here in the West. Of course, we could expect feminists to release one of their own bogus studies claiming bogus facts and numbers concluding that women just want ‘equality’ during the sex act.

Dude, this whole female rape fantasy is what made me wake up and start my journey of breaking through my feminist inspired cognitive dissonance to begin with. Every girl I have fucked has shared with me, to one degree or another, a fantasy of rape. If you have ever read any female erotica then you would know it is all about submission and rape and dominance and even in sexuality studies they call it “ravishment” fantasies. It is truly sick and shows the sick nature of female sexuality and desire and their mental states.

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rorschach March 15, 2011 at 05:46

A recent “documentary” series (shown in the UK) about Japan with the bizarre choice of Justin Lee Collins as host (a combination of ignorance and prejudice, he may have been willing to try some things but I question who thought he was suitable) made several reference to the increase in “herbivores” – it mentioned things like the market for female underwear for men, sex dolls, women using host bars etc.

Japanese men have become more effeminate and have retreated even further from women since the days when men like the otaku (the computer geeks) were the ones most casually ignored by Japanese women.

It is bizarre that women will demand something they obviously hate so much and then complain about it when they have it – they whined for men to be like this, enforced laws that encouraged it, gloated as society condemned men for being men … and now it seems they’ve finally started to realise that they don’t want men to act like women. But of course it is the fault of the Japanese men for being the way they are and women are definitely not responsible. How could they be?

As men retreat even further I can just see Japan’s advance in robotics used to rapidly develop their, to me, corpse like love dolls into “gynoids” they can have relationships with. With the way things are around the world I wouldn’t be in the least surprised if men focus on spending the money they have saved by not being with women on getting a robot for themselves.

I predict a sudden lurch in the behaviour of women as the return to “traditional” behaviour is resurrected in an attempt to convince men that women are worth the effort. Unfortunately, revealing their hatred and dismissal of men so openly should convince men they are simply better off with their new machines.

After all, women are fine with the idea of having a selection of machines to entertain them, it’s about time men had some real options too.

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Troll King March 15, 2011 at 06:13

Ahahahahahahahahaha.

Kathy….you lil perv you. I know you liked twinking your twat to that image of a cock swirling with a tongue…that is probably what you imagine when suckin one…amirite?

Here is a nice lil game for you kathy. It is fun. Just keep clicking next.
http://www.stiffville.com/adult-games/pgz/139.html

And here is one of the best. You can even find skins for it, just google it.

http://www.funny-games.biz/super-deepthroat.html

Both links are obvs not safe for work. Lulz. I bet you like that, don’t you Kathy. Would you like me to do it to you? How much cock can you swallow Kathy? How much?

I have a lil game I like to play with my girls called, “how much can she take?” Only a few have gotten lips to pelvic bone….but they all get the bone…hehehehehehe. To me there is nothing hotter than having a womans nose press against my shave pelvic bone. I like to flatten noses, and yknow….girls really should get nose jobs, this way they can swallow deeper.

The real question is this Kathy, are you worthy of getting it and swallowing? Are you?

It doesn’t matter if you are fat, but that is definately a negative. Guys, fat girls…also known as practice girls….are great for getting bjs from. They tend to have daddy issues and being fatties they have a need to please and get male validation…so, they suck like they are suckin a golf ball through a hose….not a marble. No wonder gals like Kathy, or kocky, and lara hang around here so much. They are probably humping a pillow while they type.

Now, guys…ya gotta be careful in your determination of fatties/practice chicks. There are the chubby ones that want to please, but don’t make the mistake of getting drunk and waking up next to them in the morning cause then you will have nightmares for years to come…or cum..or ewwww. Passing out next to a fat chick who just gave you head and waking up next to her,….that should be considered rape or something. Preferably punished by 10 yrs on a treadmill.

The others are the heffers…you don’t want them. They might bite your cock off thinking it is a hot dog and swallow it and then you have no cock left and what is the point of life after that…stay away from the hippos…no matter how drunker you may be…STAY AWAY! Believe it or not, hippos are one of the most DANGEROUS animals in the world….they eat cocks.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) March 15, 2011 at 06:32

Angelo March 14, 2011 at 09:41
Women want the outlaw, the criminal, the dangerous exciting guy

Yep…women want the violent, aggressive, unpredictable, dangerous guy.

Then. When she has the thugs baby she is surprised to find that he is a violent, aggressive, unpredictable, dangerous guy and she wants a beta to just pay. So she gets a beta. Eventually she gets bored at ‘beta-boy’ and goes looking for another thug.

Rinse. Repeat.

I see this so often in the english speaking world now. It’s not funny. Especially when I WAS one of those ‘beta-boys’ for 20 years! LOL!!

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) March 15, 2011 at 06:35

NWOslave March 14, 2011 at 12:40
“A womans happiness is predicated upon the leadership of a lone man which the state/media complex denies men.”

My Fav#1: Women do not know what makes them happy. A woman has to be told what she can have by her man and be told to be happy about it. THEN she will be happy.

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Aharon March 15, 2011 at 08:48

Japanese men have become more effeminate and have retreated even further from women since the days when men like the otaku (the computer geeks) were the ones most casually ignored by Japanese women.

It was reported last year that about 33% of Japanese men aged 19-30+ have not only sworn off marriage they are also not even dating women. It is normal for young men not to express interest in marriage just wanting dating fun and sex. Yet, when young men say no to dating leading to sex you know something big is occurring regarding a social shift.

It is bizarre that women will demand something they obviously hate so much and then complain about it when they have it – they whined for men to be like this, enforced laws that encouraged it, gloated as society condemned men for being men … and now it seems they’ve finally started to realise that they don’t want men to act like women.

Well, women are bizarre. ‘Unintended Consequences’ are occurring and many women do not like it. They thought men would be changed into what they said or believed they wanted: a Prince Charming they could mold. The results and ‘surprising’ new directions are disappointing many of them.

Not all women of course are upset at what is going on as they find it amusing to see other women suffer and men falling down. The number of bisexual women and lesbians are greater than ever. The reasons for that are several and I’m not going to write about it now.

Unfortunately, revealing their hatred and dismissal of men so openly should convince men they are simply better off with their new machines.

Feminism has exposed women’s dark side to men. We have not risen up to oppose women and fight them as it is not in our nature. Yet, it is increasingly in men’s nature to MGTOW and ghost saying no to being providers, protectors, and partners of women.

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Aharon March 15, 2011 at 08:55

Dude, this whole female rape fantasy is what made me wake up and start my journey of breaking through my feminist inspired cognitive dissonance to begin with.

Troll King, thank you. Congratulations on waking up from the Feminist Matrix. I’ve only read a little erotica for straight and lesbian women. It was entertaining though I have better things to read.

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HerbN March 15, 2011 at 14:02

Women want the outlaw, the criminal, the dangerous exciting guy.

If they actually had one, chances are they would be alone while their man was in jail or the grave, they would be in jail themselves, or they would be dumped when the bad boy moved on to another women.

Actually, neither happens.

The woman is in jail from a possession bust while the name, who can roll over on someone above him because he was the real dealer, cops a deal and gets probation.

This is a huge issue in some segments of the feminist world about how women are railroaded for their boyfriend’s crimes while he can roll and get a plea bargain.

Feminists use it to argue for another get out of free jail card for stupid bitches who value “sexy” over decent.

Me, I consider it getting what they wanted :)

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HerbN March 15, 2011 at 14:18

We are tip-toeing around the most important question:
“Do women respect a man more or less for raping her? Is rape good?”

Luke and Laura who made General Hospital the number one soap opera of its time (certainly not based on male viewership) might provide an answer:

Despite having been raped by a drunken Luke, Laura later falls in love with him. Originally, critics of the soap opera genre panned the unlikely pairing for detailing a rape victim to have fallen in love with her rapist. The pairing became popular in spite of Luke’s past misdeed when the story shifted to focus on love and redemption.

Rape fantasies turned into “making the bad boy a good boy” fantasies mixed are arguably high grade hamster food.

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Kathy March 15, 2011 at 15:00

@Trollboy
have a lil game I like to play with my girls called, “how much can she take?” Only a few have gotten lips to pelvic bone….but they all get the bone…hehehehehehe
I would think they all could do that with your 3″ puny cock.

No wonder gals like Kathy, or kocky, and lara hang around here so much. They are probably humping a pillow while they type

Sounds like you’re projecting again geekboy. Now go have sex with Miss Hand while watching Lara Croft on your kid toy xbox.
It’s short, fat, balding losers with no money like you still living in mommy’s basement who make these childish comments. You’d salivate over even a heiffer but even they don’t want you.

And at 170cm ,taller than you, and 50k I am hardly fat.

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universe March 15, 2011 at 18:34

NWOslave March 14, 2011 at 12:40

Gender benders praying at the altar of equality changes nothing. There are reasons, and very correct ones that dictate the preferences of men and women. There are also biological/brain differences inherent to each. etc.,

- Upvoted a lot of good comments before reaching yours, but this one resonated quite well.
Good insights from the observed brain/sex difference construct and likely your own experiences.
So, one could say that my brief commentary here represents a double thumb-up in your favour.

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BeijaFlor March 15, 2011 at 18:44

Kathy, you sound so cute when you tease the Troll like that. Tell us another one, bunny-buns.

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BeijaFlor March 15, 2011 at 19:02

@ Aharon, March 15, 2011 at 08:48: “It was reported last year that about 33% of Japanese men aged 19-30+ have not only sworn off marriage they are also not even dating women. It is normal for young men not to express interest in marriage just wanting dating fun and sex. Yet, when young men say no to dating leading to sex you know something big is occurring regarding a social shift.”

One way in which the ghost gets out of the crypt? Or maybe the scene where the Toad Prince realizes that life in the moat is pretty comfortable and relaxed, compared to the entitlement-princess hissy fits from up in the top chambers of the castle? And remembers that charming a high-maintenance princess is really hard work, compared to paddling around a moat and catching unwary flies – which actually taste pretty good when you’re a toad?

Sorry … some of this “Prince Charming / White Knight” stuff reminds me of a cartoon I saw decades ago in Penthouse: Castle in the background, pond in the foreground; a Princess is kneeling down in front of a frog, who smiles up at her and says – “I’m an enchanted comic. Kiss my ass!”

That might be the safest thing to tell an Entitlement Princess.

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by_the_sword March 15, 2011 at 21:42

Who cares what women, even Japanese women, want?

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anon March 17, 2011 at 05:38

hm, wikipedia tells me that:

Tsundere is a Japanese character development process that describes a person who is initially cold and even hostile towards another person before gradually showing their warm side over time. The word is derived from the terms Tsun Tsun, meaning to turn away in disgust, and Dere Dere meaning to become ‘lovey dovey’.

I think you should stop viewing everything from an anti-feminist perspective.

Romance fantasy has been around since the dawn of mankind. Feminism is just a political movement, nothing more.

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Galm 1 March 20, 2011 at 22:30

“Research papers on yaoi admit this is another projection of female readers to the uke. Acting feminine as a girl is seen as dependent, but if it is a guy he is still seen as independent even though both act the same. It is said the Japanese perception of women has contributed to this.”

There it is. The answer I’ve sought for years.

You have no idea how much I was dragged through the mud as a beta by female anime/yaoi fans because of this. All the insanity, all the madness flying about over normal girls who had grown addicted to yaoi and then were suddenly proclaiming themselves bi/lesbian/transsexual. All those times I was told I wasn’t good enough, that I’d NEVER be good enough because I was a real male, and “real men aren’t pretty enough” for them.

It all makes sense suddenly, and it’s so obvious I’m stunned that I never saw the pattern before.

I’m not sure whether to laugh or cry for the future of geekdom.

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Silent Soul April 26, 2011 at 15:03

i find this pretty freakin phsyco why in the heck would you want a wo”man” its descusting to know, i can see between both side of the coin. i get that a feminist (at first) want equalty for women which is good i mean i think everybody men, women, what ev race should get the same kinda things you kno equal pay, equal promotions, but when you get to that crazy junk like rap fantasy and yaoi and “oh i hate all men just because of what one man did” is ludicris. i mean come on if you were a women why would you want a weak punk to submit to you he cant protect you he can do nothin for you or your kids next you cant say you hate them all thats like hatin all dogs because one bit you when u were 12. just because a phsyco is being …well a phyco ,you cant blame everyone for that one guys mistake and lastly rap fantasy..wft i cant even say any thing to that. next just leave guys a lone eveybody needs free time, a hobby i mean would you like it if you couldnt go out and have fun without coming home and being accussed of cheating or being a worthless being for just being yourself. i just dont get it if you hate him dont degrade him dont deprive him of sex cut him some slack and i mean if you feel sooo degraded by loungerie comerecials and stuff like that guess what SO ITS NOT YOU and these woman are proud enough to show their bodies thats them its not that serious i mean thats not to say there are nt sluts that flash their boobs any time they get the chance im just saying its their profesion they wernt forced buy a man to do it they wanted to do it. lastly since women hate man soo much they make men hate them if you want respect dont hit them below the belt just be sensible be real. if you call some one a jackass when you wanna borrow something they are not gonna give you it so why call men out if you wanna get a job its just comman sence. also he works for you, he loves you , he love the kids ( if you even got that far which i dubt) just sex him up lol. i cant say this enough your not weak just give in how is that mking u any less of a woman your boobs dont dissapear when you you do him and a real men aint a god damn girl if you want a girl so bad just go lesbo you just doing the man you hate soo much a favor they like that…
by the way im a young woman :)
…sorry for the long speel and if you wanna call me less of a women go ahead i dont care and any way you can be, well “independent” if your by yourself and a guy isnt (or any one for that matter) in your life yet. who else is gonna do it you say you dont need a man well so you dont really need a woman either now mind u its a differnce between “do it yourself” and sayin you “dont need a man to survive” be honest everbody needs some body, ecspialy to love. and guys let me kno if im wrong on some things…thanx

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jlynn September 2, 2011 at 21:55

What the hell is all of this? Saying that women need someone to tell them to be happy and all that. I don’t get it. I’m unhappiest when someone (man or woman) tells me what to say, think, or do. Not all of us have a rape fantasy. I have nightmares about the possability. STD’s, unwanted pregnancies I just don’t see the allure of it. As far as feminism goes screw it. I’ll do my thing you do yours and we meet and nagotiate in the middle. I’m sorry so many of you seem to have met such sorry excuses for women, but please do not hold it against all of us. at least specifiy! (yeah i’m a woman, but i still think that it’s a stay at home wifes job to cook, clean, and watch the kids.) Equality is important to me, it goes both ways. If I’m working to bring in the pay, and you stay home, then i’m not wrong to expect dinner and a clean house. Don’t like that? Then you get a job, and share responsabilities. Simple. And don’t ask me to be the stay at home whatever, I didn’t bust my ass all these years just to stop chasing the dream, my dream. I wouldn’t ask that of any of you.

Thanks,
and sorry for the language

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