The Future After the Death of Feminism

by Delusion Damage on February 25, 2011

Feminism is going to die.  Soon.

After the sun has set on feminism’s final day, the world that’s left for us will look very different – whether it’s a decent place or not will depend on the methods we use to get there. Some of feminism’s most enthusiastic opponents are of the mind that “winning the war” is all that matters right now and rebuilding can be figured out later. I hold that “the war” will win itself in any case, and that now is the time to look to the future and plan for it, because an ounce of preventing undesirable side effects of the impending transition to a non-feminist society is worth a pound of cure after the fact.

Interestingly, the possibility of feminism ending within any time frame relevant to currently living people has never been spared a thought in anything written by a feminist that I’ve ever come across.

Also among those opposed to feminism, the fear that it could go on forever is widespread. Comments have even been thrown about to the effect that current anti-feminist action is “not good enough”, that the fact that it’s getting worse means that it will keep getting worse. However, as alluded to by The Futurist in his call to activism, a transition to non-misandrist society will happen no matter what, and the impact the men’s movement can make is not on “if” but “how”:

I remain as convinced as ever that The Misandry Bubble will correct by 2020 no matter what due to the Four Horsemen of Male Emancipation.  However, there is much to lose if the correction is turbulent, rather than orderly.  Millions of innocent men and women can be saved from wrenching misfortune if we act now to fight the culture of misandry that is cancerously pervading the entire Western world.

I’d like to highlight a different set of four factors that will bring feminism to an end: four methods men are using to dismantle it, which will shape the world we’re left with once feminism is gone.

  1. Educating Men – A noble effort is being made by men of various backgrounds to educate other men about the evils of feminist society through whatever means their particular circumstances provide.
  2. Leaving Women to Fend for Themselves – A number of men are “going their own way”, refusing to foot the bill for the feminist gravy train and distancing themselves from feminist society both for their own protection and to withdraw support from a destructive system.
  3. Violence – Still relatively rare but growing in number are those men who, pushed far enough into disillusionment and despair, decide to push back with full force and embark on a murder-suicide shooting rampage as their final protest against the society that made their lives unlivable. We may yet see some Western men take it upon themselves to punish feminist behavior in our streets and public spaces on a day-to-day basis. What with the oversensitivity of our cultural climate to misinterpreting any mention of violence as a call to it, I feel a need to state unequivocally that I am not encouraging violent action against feminists here, but only stating as fact what is happening today and making a prediction regarding what may happen in the future.
  4. Educating Women – Little effort is currently being made by men to educate women about the error of their feminist ways, and very few women are inclined to listen. As women come to face more and more abandonment and violence from the growing number of disillusioned men, more and more of them will be forced to look beyond feminism for solutions, and this approach will become more effective and very important for the building of a better society.

Feminist society is inherently unsustainable because it functionally encourages all of these strategies, and therein contains the seeds of its own destruction. A sadly forgotten fact among today’s generation of women is that they survive only on the good humor of men, who, whether in the guise of husbands, fathers, taxpayers or police, have always been and will likely always be the only thing standing between women and a swift and brutal death. The fundamental contract between the sexes is based on women making themselves worth the trouble by giving men something in return for this favor. It might be possible to conceive of a society in which women could enjoy a decent standard of living even without the willing help of men, but any sequence of events that could lead the Western world to such a state of affairs in the near future appears astronomically unlikely. The fact is that quality of life for women, as a group, depends to a great extent on men’s kindness, and that kindness is predicated on the women not pissing the men off too much. Until recently there’s been a healthy buffer of male goodwill towards women keeping society in balance. It’s been known by names like chivalry and gentlemanly conduct, and expressed in myriad written and unwritten rules like the ubiquitous “never hit a girl” we all learned as children, but the major portion of it doesn’t have a name and can only be described as an overarching tendency to always treat women a bit better than other men. The now aging generation of women has used up a major chunk of that collective male goodwill – they’ve partied with abandon on credit, leaving the bill to their daughters. At the current rate, the amount of kindness-reducing behavior among the female population is fast approaching “too much”, and when it reaches that point where the male population as a collective entity has had enough and “general public male opinion” switches from being pro-feminist to being anti-feminist, things will change very rapidly indeed.

Most men are by default more than willing to discuss things and find cooperative solutions that benefit everyone, but faced with someone who refuses to do that and is intent on getting her own way no matter who gets hurt, most men are also perfectly willing to control such a danger by force. The unwillingness of feminists to engage in rational cooperation is eventually going to lead men to give up on trying to talk to them as equals and instead unilaterally decide that the party is over and it’s time for feminists to shut up and cook dinner. It is in the best interests of both men and women to shape a future in which women voluntarily let go of feminist stubbornness and cooperate with men for the greater benefit of all involved, rather than be forced to submit. When women realize that these are the only two options and that the feminist utopia they’ve been taught to expect is a practical impossibility, they will fall in line very quickly.

The future holds many exciting possibilities:

  1. Western society weakens under irrational feminist policies and its population is absorbed into a culture with stronger values, such as Islam.
  2. As a result of withdrawn male support in the form of labor and economic production, the economic safety net collapses and women are forced to abandon feminism and learn to please men in order to be provided for. With no working social security system, we get to join the third world with skyrocketing crime rates, consequent rampant corruption and a reduced standard of living for all but the most ruthless robber barons.
  3. Men in law enforcement professions become disillusioned with increasingly irrational feminist rape and domestic abuse laws and start turning a blind eye, consequently also removing the sensible protections women have enjoyed by law since the dawn of civilization and effecting de facto legalization of forceful control of women. The protection of women falls to the men in their lives, private citizens now forced to arm themselves and fight sexual competitors for women conquered as war trophies. Like the wild west, but a lot more crowded.
  4. Women influenced by feminism realize their mistake and agree to cooperate in building a new system that benefits both sexes. Needless to say, this would be the best option for all involved, and the best we can say for the alternatives is that they have to exist in theory and, I fear, to some extent as examples before a major portion of feminists will realize the necessity of cooperation.

It should be the concern of any man or woman not wishing to live under Islamic law or in a new wild west on the ruins of a collapsed civilization to make sure that feminist women realize their mistake and are offered a cooperative solution out of the pit they’ve dug as soon as possible, before our society has descended into lawlessness. If the societal breakdown is allowed to happen, it will cause a lot of unnecessary suffering to all of us and be very hard to fix. To this end, I advocated reducing feminist ideas in women through peaceful and cooperative means in my previous article, The High Road. While a minority of readers expressed their appreciation for my suggestions in the comments, a much more vocal contingent of commenters criticized my approach as too moderate and voiced their own opinions to the effect that no communication should be had with any woman influenced by feminism. Given the ubiquity of feminist indoctrination in our society, I am mighty curious as to whether these men ever speak with their mothers, sisters, daughters or colleagues, and if they do, whether their behavior does justice to the positions they express with such gusto when safely behind their keyboards. If there is a man among them who has never talked to a feminist-influenced woman twice, he’s got my respect, and as for any who don’t meet the criterion upon which they found it appropriate to base their criticisms, they are cordially invited to give themselves a healthy slap in the face.

Feminism is everywhere, it cannot be avoided. Many of those very same men who would criticize polite disagreement as too soft can frequently be found sitting around offices and dining tables silently bearing witness to all manner of feminist chatter. This is a problem in the men’s movement – there are no signs of movement from the men who count: brothers, husbands, friends, etc. As long as the only opposition to feminist ideas a woman gets is from a keyboard halfway across the world while the men close to her shut up, smile, and direct all their own frustrations toward other computer screens on the other side of the world, the chances for her to change are not great. Someone on the internet may disapprove of her treatment of men, but all the men in her life seem to be accepting it without so much as a peep! Who would you believe?

Speaking our minds to feminist-influenced women only when we’re sitting at our keyboards or boycotting feminism only in those people who are so unimportant to our lives that we cut them out without a second thought is shamefully, pitifully, laughably insignificant. It is in our personal lives where our efforts count. If you are ever going to effect an involuntary change in anyone, it will be in people who absolutely cannot ignore you, because all those who can, will. If you are willing to tell your mother and your daughter to pack up the delusions they picked up in college and leave your life forever, I have no issue with that, but I doubt men who would do this are many even in these circles. If instead you stay quiet and let them broadcast their delusions unopposed and unanimously reinforce each others’ superiority complexes, you are behaving like less than a man and should feel bad. If you are like most of the audience here – just a guy, just disappointed, not ready to wreck your life even for a good cause and yet not content with standing idly by doing nothing while injustice is rife all around you – for you, there is The High Road. No apologizing, no hiding of your views, no fighting with your friends and family, just realizing that your goals are ultimately best for everyone and repackaging your true cause as a concerned appeal to her self-interest. For best results, the men’s movement needs both good cops and bad cops. Someone has to raise the cost of being a feminist, and someone has to offer women an enticing opportunity for defection.

The basis of feminism is unabashed selfishness, and women will hold onto it exactly as long as they perceive it to be their best option. If we let them believe that it’s “us vs. them” and we’re not taking prisoners, they can hold onto it until no woman is left standing and maybe they can take freedom of religion, social security and/or democratic rule of law down with them. This would obviously be bad for everyone. While a better option for women to defect to is not being made widely available, desperate women are going to cling to their sinking ship.

Where we end up is our choice to make, but we have to start making it now. The law of Islam, the law of the jungle, or a new law for men and women to peacefully coexist in a society that recognizes, understands and fulfills the different needs of both. Feminism will go down, and peacefully, cooperatively, violently or indifferently, you will be involved in burying it. There will be educators and rebels, agitators and bystanders, there will be objectors, defectors, killers and mediators. All will play their parts in the inevitable disassembling of feminist society, but what we really need are those who can help us build a decent future after it’s gone.


The author took care in writing this piece, considering its implications and limitations, and hopes that those who might disagree in the comments make a similar effort .

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AfOR February 25, 2011 at 06:43

Economic crash is the best friend we have.

And personally I take the view that the harder the crash the better, because the harder the crash the worse it will be for the wimminz….

purge the gene pool.

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Alcuin February 25, 2011 at 06:51

Sir, you’re a jackass. A sanctimonious jackass. To wit: “Speaking our minds to feminist-influenced women only when we’re sitting at our keyboards or boycotting feminism only in those people who are so unimportant to our lives that we cut them out without a second thought is shamefully, pitifully, laughably insignificant.”

First, like many of the others around here, I’ve spoken directly to countless feminist-inspired women, including my mother (and father) and how they favored my 3 sisters over me. I’ve never sat comfortably and let the bitches run loose at work or elsewhere. On the other hand, men have to realize when there’s an unwinnable situation. Education is a lost cause at the moment, so male students should not necessarily directly counterattack.

We are not hiding behind our keyboards, you pompous fucking windbag. We are providing immeasurable information and wisdom to countless other men. Websites like the Spearhead would have saved me 15 years of grief and bullshit. I admire the men of this community for pushing and sharing and letting it rip. Keep it going, men!

Are you going to be writing more of these articles?

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Carnivore February 25, 2011 at 06:55

Many of those very same men who would criticize polite disagreement as too soft can frequently be found sitting around offices and dining tables silently bearing witness to all manner of feminist chatter.

That hits it on the head. Men need to get their balls back and go on the offensive, in the verbal sense. Mea culpa, yes, I need to improve too.
Many areas to consider:
-The work place, although there’s always the fear of job loss if one does not tread carefully.
- One’s marriage – HL covers it well.
- Interacting with family and friends.

As far as a reasoned transition goes – don’t believe it’s likely. Too many vested interests in place who are very unlikely to just let go.

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Carnivore February 25, 2011 at 07:04

Economic crash is the best friend we have.

And, it would seem, a friend whose visit is inevitable.

We (at least in the USA) have seen the Wisconsin standoff regarding teacher benefits. Stage two has just taken place: The city of Providence, Rhode Island has just issues termination slips to all 2000 teachers in the city school system. That doesn’t mean they will all be fired. It just gives the city the flexibility to fire whomever they need to after the school year. Union rules require notice before a teacher is let go. The city simply gave notice to all to free their hands going forward.

And remember, most teachers are women.

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AfOR February 25, 2011 at 07:07

The other thing people need to realise about wimminz is they are the scorpion from aesop’s tale.

The Scorpion and the Frog

A scorpion and a frog meet on the bank of a stream and the
scorpion asks the frog to carry him across on its back. The
frog asks, “How do I know you won’t sting me?” The scorpion
says, “Because if I do, I will die too.”

The frog is satisfied, and they set out, but in midstream,
the scorpion stings the frog. The frog feels the onset of
paralysis and starts to sink, knowing they both will drown,
but has just enough time to gasp “Why?”

Replies the scorpion: “Its my nature…”

Such is the nature of wimminz, they would prefer to see everything die rather than change themselves or give ANYTHING up.

My attitude is fine, bring it on….

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Alcuin February 25, 2011 at 07:14

In a war, which is what we are in, we don’t take half-measures. How do you take half-measures against a civilization that says Assange is a rapist? Feminists basically say that all men are in our deepest, purest nature rapists. Western women have said nothing to oppose this, and have silently accepted it. How can we treat such people with the respect for which the author calls?

I have been treated with contempt for so long by Western women that I have no charity for them. Abandonment is the best option. Opposing them at every turn is central to defeating them. Give them an inch and they’ll send you to prison or ruin your career.

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Uncle Elmer February 25, 2011 at 07:18

Slightly off-topic but somewhat related. Salon publishes a heart-warming essay promoting immigration fraud :

http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2011/02/24/married_to_a_gay_muslim/index.html

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Uncle Elmer February 25, 2011 at 07:23

from her website : I’ve been able to do some travel writing as a result, for instance. It’s all about striking a balance, but it isn’t easy or everyone would do it. A more recent example can be found in Elizabeth Gilbert, who shunned the MFA route in favor of working in a bar, traveling, listening to people…the school of life. When you’re a writer, every room you walk into is a classroom, everything that happens is a lesson.
Knowing there are many possible tracks is a comforting thing in a career that’s heavy on risk.

No comment.

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XS February 25, 2011 at 07:31

Hopefully the post-feminist world will be something along the lines of 100% equality. That’s what they claim they want, so it’s time to give it to them.

I look forward to the day when women work 40+ years and hand their paychecks over to stay-at-home dads. It’s going to be either that or a life of singlehood with no hope of hypergamy due to the decreasing pool of suitable man-slaves.

This is an information war and The Spearhead is at the frontline, all we need to do is keep disseminating the lies and passing on the link to this site and some of the great Youtube channels like manwomanmyth/Bernard Chapin/Paul Elam etc. I’m doing my part.

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Herbal Essence February 25, 2011 at 07:38

Dear D. Damage,

You make some good points and your heart seems to be in the right place. But I feel you’re misunderstanding female psychology and the root of feminism.

Feminism is not a worldview based on coherent thought. It is the desires of the female lizard-brain rationalized. Feminism is based on a woman’s reproductive strategy – my vagina makes me special, I must obtain sexy sperm, I deserve to be protected, and I deserve to get resources.

The whole of Feminism was designed to “free” women from the “restrictions” of traditional society so she could obtain sexy sperm, and then providing a social construct so she could get security and resources without being in the confines of a nuclear family. Thus making more sexy sperm and self-indulgence available. Lastly, that she “deserves” all that because she has a vagina.

Women don’t choose to believe in feminism. Feminism is a rationalization of their lizard brain. That’s why you can talk to women who will swear up and down they are not feminists, yet they refuse to give ground on any of the privileges that feminism gave them. The programming is already in her, feminism is just the means to make it a reality. You might as well try to convince female peacocks not to mate with males with impressive plumage.

So my point is, I think you’re dreaming if you think women are going to be rationalized out of feminism. I agree that many of the social bulwarks propping up feminism may collapse. But the only way women will change is if they’re trained to through operant conditioning. Of course there are some exceptional women who are capable of better, but they are the exception.

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oddsock February 25, 2011 at 07:41

I more or less agree with the views of the previous posters. The economic crash is a cert perhaps not the best way forward but it will certainly get rid of the vast amount of female pompous windbags that we have in so many cushy semi government office jobs all across the UK. If things get really bad, perhaps even a major war which destroys the main infrastructure I know I will survive. at least not withstanding direct violence. I am able to live rough and survive. Most women and probably many manginas will perish.

Bring it on. I enjoy a challenge and will get great satisfaction watching the huge ego of so many women get crushed. I even detect a nervousness among many of those in the above mentioned cushy local government jobs. They were oh so smug, thought they were safe and above us mere plebs. Thankfully, they will be the first to get kicked out when the financial axe falls. Sort of reminds me of what we have seen throughout history. when any empire starts to collapse they hack away at the lower rungs of command first before finally reaching the upper echelons of power in which they turn on each other. ( Hitlers final days spring to mind )

OT. This is also why I have mixed feelings about whats happening in Wisconsin and Rhode Island. I am all for working/middle class people earning a decent salary. On the other hand, same as the UK. Most of the state employees involved I suspect are women.

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AntiFeminist February 25, 2011 at 07:45

lol
Another “the moooslimz are coming” article… as if the mainstream media wasnt already propping up this islamophobic paranoia. Any feminist with two neurons in her brain could reply to such an irrational proposition (“its either Islam or a Good non-feminist Society”) by saying that this fear-mongering is another anti-feminist ploy to scare women into “giving up their rights”. It aint working. And it wont work, regardless how much does the anti-Islam brigades keep repeating the “mooslimz are coming” mantra. Just drop this anti-muslim paranoia about “Islamic law is behind the corner”. Not even in most muslim countries does “islamic law” exists. Turkey is 99% islamic, and its a democracy (been there a few months ago, a very nice place). Indonesia is the biggest islamic country, and is a democracy with no mention of “islam” in its costitution. Lebanon, where the shia Hezbollah have much power, is a democracy with Jews and Christians living side by side (the Maronite Christians are even allied with the Hezbollah). If muslims countries does have functioning and stable democracies, what reasoning does make someone think that in a western country with a long democracy tradition all of a sudden a mostly atheist population will turn to “taliban-style” Islam, or even Islam at all ? It wont happen.

It is muslims who will be “absorbed” by this Western culture, not the other way around. Modern western “values” prompts Man’s (as in human being) most beastly behaviours, like selfishness and sexual promiscuity. Already in all of Europe one of the main topic of immigrant muslims is something called Islamic Feminism, for which they are giving a shitload of conferences in all of Europe. 40 years from now muslims in Europe will be like christians are right now: they say they are “religious”, but in facts they are not.

So just drop this “eurabia” hysteria: women will not be scared by this fear-mongering, and they wont give up their “priviledges” because of some immaginary future of “islamic law” in western countries. Its just a waste of time and energy. MRAs should just focus on men, telling them to GTOW and avoid any contribution to this Feminist Society.

Trying to scare women into turning against feminism to “save their ass from the mullahs” wont achieve anything.

Just remember what happened after WW2. Just take the US case: US men went to war against the nazis in Europe, died by the milions, then came back home, rested for a few years, and Second Wave Feminism was in full swing, the most destructive and misandrist feminist years ever. Females are not grateful beings, they forget very quickly the good men do to them. Trying to use scare-mongering tactics against them is useless. After this fake “war on terror” is over, most likely there will be a Fourth Wave Feminism, that will be even more anti-male than the last one. We just have to go our own way and let this Feminist Monster die by not subsidizing it, lets not play the Capt-Save-a-Ho game anymore. It aint worth it.

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RL February 25, 2011 at 07:54

You should only announce victory upon being successful. Alte covered the topic recently: http://traditionalcatholicism.wordpress.com/2011/01/29/a-model-of-the-collapse-argentina-2001-part-ii/

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Stiegl February 25, 2011 at 07:56

I think the only way feminism will be destroyed is when abortion/birth control is made illegal. The main reason we didn’t have today’s problems in the past is that we couldn’t – a woman gets pregnant soon after she starts sleeping around, and her marriage prospects suddenly disappear the moment she does. The women thus wanted to get married asap, which is what kept hypergamy in check. Instead of looking for Mr. Alpha for 12+ years until she is almost 30, she looks for him for 2-3 years and then decides Mr. Normal Guy is good enough. She doesn’t have 20+ partners, she hasn’t dated Mr. Super-Badboy-that-noone-can-ever-measure-up-to, and all parties are happy.

Abortion and birth control take this natural check off of female hypergamy, and the result is what we have today. Feminism would not be nearly as powerful without it, because no matter what the feminists say and try to promote, women would get pregnant. No normal woman is going to let herself get pregnant without being attached to a man (even today).

I think that might be the real thing the mens rights movement needs to fight for. The natural check on female hypergamy has been removed, and feminism will run rampant until that check is restored.

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Fabron February 25, 2011 at 08:00

At times I wonder if the target for reform should not be feminism itself but rather consumerism. Women buy more stuff than men do. Women are more easily influenced by advertising. So, the content of television programming, movies, magazines and newspapers is designed to appeal to women.

Last week, AOL announced the acquisition of the HuffingtonPost website for $315 million. In announcing the deal, AOL CEO Tim Armstrong said:

The Huffington Post is core to our strategy and our 80:80:80 focus — 80% of domestic spending is done by women, 80% of commerce happens locally and 80% of considered purchases are driven by influencers. The influencer part of the strategy is important and will be potent.

The Huffington Post is a strong influencer brand and it attracts a valuable audience, including a great focus on women’s content. In addition, Arianna Huffington is a world-renowned expert on women’s topics and issues, and has enabled The Huffington Post to grow rapidly by continually developing new audiences.

Almost all advertising is created to appeal to the woman and a frequent method to get her attention is to paint the male as an ignorant doofus, while the female is smart and in control.

Here is a one-minute spot for Cadillac. The twenty-something woman executive is in charge and her male underlings scatter in fear as she walks to her corner office. One has to wonder if Cadillac actually sold more cars because of this advert, or did it turn off potential buyers who were men.

Take a look:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYRDlemU-Hs

Thorstein Veblen saw all this coming a century ago when he wrote about “conspicuous consumption.”

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AfOR February 25, 2011 at 08:03

This is copied and pasted from a local recruitment website, one owned and run by two women.

The Government’s hope that the private sector will provide employment opportunities for people losing their jobs in the public sector has been dealt a blow today by the results of a Barclays & Financial Times survey of private firms.

The survey results showed that more than 50% of the businesses contacted said that although they were planning to create jobs this year, they would not hire public sector workers who have been made redundant as it was felt they would not have the right skills.

make no mistake, these “public sector workers” are 80% female, so it is their “sisters” they are talking about….

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Buck Swamp February 25, 2011 at 08:05

The real battle is not, and never will be, between men and women. Feminists today are like children playing a game of ‘grown-up’. Their game ends when, and not until, the real grown-ups (men, obviously) decide it’s over.
Of course, until this time comes, most ordinary men have to struggle to survive against the feminist destruction all around us, and in that struggle, all of us in the MRA need to support each other as best we can.

But the deciding battle for men’s rights will be between men who understand and deplore the destructiveness of feminism, against those men who either don’t understand, don’t want to understand, or who personally benefit from it. Unfortunately, many elite men benefit from feminism. The question is how do we convince, or failing that, neutralize them.

As always, women will stand on the side lines and wait for the victors to emerge.

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Eincrou February 25, 2011 at 08:11

Fantastic article, and it highlights what I believe is the greatest irony of the men’s movement.

Feminists and our opponents are fools to not realize that it is our success in eliminating feminism’s greatest oversteps that will guarantee women of the near future a just and safe society. These people are stuck in denial that their conception of a utopia for women does not and cannot work. Thus, they are incapable of pursuing their goals in sensible ways while accepting the limitations of reality.

As the author states, there are only two options going forward.

1) Anti-feminists will be unable to make intentional corrections that would serve to keep the current system going, and those in power remain so crippled by their imagined vision of how they want the world to ‘work’ that they refuse to enact any reductions in the artificially elevated quality of women’s lives. The result is the disorderly collapse of the misandry bubble.

2) Society voluntarily reduces its misandry and women accept a reduction in their legal powers, subsidies, etc; pointedly refusing to elect politicians who lie and say “I can keep the dreams of feminism intact if you would just elect me.”

So far, the feminist response has been to utterly deny that feminism or misandry has been deleterious to civilization, and even if they did it’s likely they would just call for the continuation of their ‘righteous cause’ at all costs. Clearly, failing to completely subjugate and destroy many of feminism’s core tenants will never lead to Option 2.

They will not back down. They will not stop damaging us. The only victory scenario is to completely rout the enemy. Their refusal to give any ground makes our goal easy to determine. Now, we must engage them.

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Alcuin February 25, 2011 at 08:16

Western women are ruthless. They will destroy a family with a lifestyle divorce, and ruin her husband without thinking of their lives. She rationalizes it based on her needs.

They will accuse a man of rape when he did no such thing so they can get revenge for hurt feelings or to cover their own infidelity. They will dress like whores, then accuse men of being perverts and of sexual harassment. They will take all the cushy jobs and complain when men refuse to take the shit jobs, but act like “boys” instead. They will cut their hair short, get fat, avoid shaving (their legs? their face?), smell, and then complain that men go for Asian women or none. They will take advantage of manginas for years, and give nothing in return for such dog-like loyalty. They will take jobs away from men, and become lazy, useless muffin-eaters.

There’s no way we should soften up against such ruthless people.

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mananon February 25, 2011 at 08:19

Oddsock is right. I remember only recently the TUC complaining loudly about the impending public-sector jobs cuts. One of their main arguments was basically since the majority of public-sector workers are women it would be ‘sexist’ to cut jobs in the public sector…

They didn’t even question the fact the majority of public employed people are women (to them that is not sexist) but if this female dominated sector is cut in any way that’s sexist.

No doubt they’d rather see what’s left of the Royal Navy get slashed, just so ‘Diversity Compliance Officers’ and the like can get paid to read the Guardian behind a cushy desk.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) February 25, 2011 at 08:20

DD,
I was aware feminism was going to die inside a few years on 26th November 2009. The day I proved my remedy in court. For any man to remove himself from the feminist system all he has to do is read this book and then USE it. Alas. When you talk of ‘educating men’ the real issue there is that men only want to be educated in the things they tend to already be-LIE-ve. Men are brainwashed and they are not inclined to get out of that brainwashing. They are also mostly cowards. Indeed. They really are sheeple, most of them. I have more than enough evidence of that to back it up so if men don’t like me saying that then they better stop being sheeple and start being sovereigns.

So in my remedy I designed it so that it would apply to a single man as long as he had 6 mates of similar mind. Better to have 12 though so you can have a jury. If a man can not find six mates of similar mind where he lives, as is my case, then he can ‘go it alone’, as I have done.

As far as the future. We are at a turning point. Men will either choose to have the rule of law or choose the ‘bullet ridden dystopia’ mentioned elsewhere. That means men will have juries or they will have civil wars and gangs. John Wilson said “After the jury box comes the ammo box”. He would be correct. If men are not willing to form juries then they are going to HAVE to use guns to defend themselves. And we ALL know that there are plenty of men who will take things by force if they feel they can get away with it. Just look at your judges if you don’t think that is true.

I took the time to research, develop, test, document, and deploy the remedy. I use it. That other men don’t is THEIR problem.

Consider, for example, my world passport. If men here would help me get my world passport working then any man in the US who is being robbed blind can get a world passport and LEAVE his prison. Alas. No-one can be bothered to help me do that so I am left to do that on my own. The men in the MRA area are very, very reluctant to actually DO anything useful. I have plenty of evidence of that too. They won’t even do SIMPLE things like write letters or post into newspaper blogs in the main.

http://www.peternolan.com/Forums/tabid/420/forumid/58/scope/threads/Default.aspx

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Charles Martel February 25, 2011 at 08:20

Here is a one-minute spot for Cadillac. The twenty-something woman executive is in charge and her male underlings scatter in fear as she walks to her corner office. One has to wonder if Cadillac actually sold more cars because of this advert, or did it turn off potential buyers who were men.

That ad’s been around for a while. The first time I saw it I thought “I am NEVER buying a Cadillac.” The ad is so unbelievably misandric. The guy in the elevator whose pen leaks into his shirt pocket as a metaphor for him wetting himself in fear. Holy cow!

I was out recently having a drink with some younger friends. Two of these guys are brothers. While we were socializing, the younger brother was receiving text messages from a woman who has been pursuing him for a hook-up. The younger brother and another guy were basically messing with her by text. In the middle of this hilarity the woman, who is a bartender in a strip club, suddenly changed pace and texted that she was off to the ER (Emergency Room). It turns out that while this strong, independent single mother was working, her (female) babysitter’s dog had bitten her baby boy on the HEAD!

This is the reality. Not the Cadillac bitch. The out-of-control thirty year old single mother begging for a hook-up while her neglected male toddler is being mauled by a dog.

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DrDave February 25, 2011 at 08:22

Economic collapse is the cure to the terminal disease named feminism. And nobody will give a tinker’s *amn about aging entitlement hags who find out that shoveling the snow, protecting the home or defending oneself against the inevitable street crime that will accompany harsh economic times is much easier with a man around.

Then again, maybe I’m underestimating the power of harsh, sarcastic words to halt an armed, hardened criminal, especially when those same harsh words are uttered by embittered old feminist entitlement hags.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) February 25, 2011 at 08:22

Alcuin February 25, 2011 at 08:16

Great to see another man speak so forcefully and treat women as the ‘equals’ they have demanded to be treated as. I treat women exactly like I would treat a man. And I speak to them like I would speak to a man. They really hate that.

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Uncle Elmer February 25, 2011 at 08:24
Uncle Elmer February 25, 2011 at 08:29

Check out the Coke main page, obviously targeting women.

http://www.coca-cola.com/en/index.html

Those Maroon 5 poofters are a laff riot! Not exactly Bix Biederbecke and the Wolverines.

http://www.starrgennett.org/stories/profiles/wolverines.htm

How can any straight, white male drink Coke?

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Uncle Elmer February 25, 2011 at 08:31

By the way, I once met an old coot working in very old, seedy Dayton porn shop that had seen Bix live in concert back in the 1920s.

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Uncle Elmer February 25, 2011 at 08:33

All the rage with the college crowd, the Wolverines also played for dances at Miami University of Ohio and for fraternity parties while continuing to perform as the house band for Doyle’s.

And thus began the long road to campus rape hysteria.

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mananon February 25, 2011 at 08:35

Coca-Cola?

Q: What’s the difference between a feminist and a bottle of cola?

A: They’re both empty from the kneck up!

Brd-da-doom-tssh!

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aharon February 25, 2011 at 08:36

“Until recently there’s been a healthy buffer of male goodwill towards women keeping society in balance.”
— Agreed, the goodwill of men and men’s patience is wearing out. Most of my life I’ve heard women wailing about all the misogyny directed at them from so many men. My experience is that from youth through adulthood I met some (not many) chauvinists and most of those guys were mostly play acting macho. I do not believe that I really ever met any true misogynists until the past few years. Now, males of all ages seem to be becoming increasingly angry and fed-up with women (and obnoxious idiot girls) as a group and not just feminism as an ideology. Now, I am meeting misogynists online, among my personal friends, at grocery stores, etc.

“general public male opinion” switches from being pro-feminist to being anti-feminist, things will change very rapidly indeed.”
— Perhaps this is just a minor observation: I don’t so much see men now or previously being pro-feminist as I do see men still being somewhat pro Women’s Movement though there is more cynicism toward that too.

“It is in our personal lives where our efforts count.”
— Long ago, I cut-off contact with my mother who was very emotionally abusive and neglectful in her parental responsibilities. She did receive a call from me shortly before she died and that’s it. While the whole relationship was sad, I do not regret my decision. My mangina relatives and father gave me hell too for my decision and they mostly got cut-off too. If I had been female and had I been emotionally, physically, or sexually abused (by a man) my relatives would probably have rallied in support of me.

All of us regulars in the manosphere are aware of how government plays women and men off against each other (divide and conquer, etc) with government’s own agenda of seeking bigger government and more power over the people. I would have liked to have read in the article about government’s ongoing support of and use of feminism as a political tool in the unfolding drama.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) February 25, 2011 at 08:43

AfOR February 25, 2011 at 08:03
“they would not hire public sector workers who have been made redundant as it was felt they would not have the right skills.”

I have had public sector clients. They are really hard to work with since they have no profit motive and no efficiency motive. They waste time endlessly. The meetings and ‘consensus’ building is endless. It is unbelieveably difficult to get a decision made. In general. People in government jobs are terrible at them and it shows. And yes. It’s gotten MUCH worse as guvments bloated up with women to soak up all the princesses who could not do anything useful in the private sector.

There is going to be a HUGE shake out and women will be discarded from companies in their tens of millions.

DrDave February 25, 2011 at 08:22
“Then again, maybe I’m underestimating the power of harsh, sarcastic words to halt an armed, hardened criminal, especially when those same harsh words are uttered by embittered old feminist entitlement hags”

I have been telling women for some time that if men get hungry enough and shoot a few cops so the cops don’t answer calls for help for fear of their own safety then crime will run rampant. And the men who commit those crimes will look for the easiest victims. Single women. This is going to happen in places like the USSA and USSK JUST like it happened in the USSR after it collapsed. I can’t see it NOT happening. Both places have hyperinflated their currencies by making up so much money out of thin air. As that hyperinflation comes through you are going to see sharp rises in REAL crimes. I am in Germany and we are not going to see the same thing here.

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aharon February 25, 2011 at 08:47

Western women are ruthless. They will destroy a family with a lifestyle divorce, and ruin her husband without thinking of their lives. She rationalizes it based on her needs.

This is why I am very pessimistic that women can be brought to a place of being fair, rational, and concerned about the greater good. As life gets worse in society I can only imagine women and their supporters and government that only cares about itself and the moment will just keep trying to do more of the same making things worse than ever.

Someone once said that the definition of insanity is the continuation of doing the same thing over and over that keeps producing bad results. Women have not felt the extreme degree of the pain of their failures as their social meds have kept them in denial. Those social meds are becoming increasingly non-effective. The failures cannot continue to be placed onto the shoulders of men bear while they continue living a privileged life.

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Keyster February 25, 2011 at 08:50

You’re forgetting the power of political influence.
Women’s groups are HUGE in Washington D.C.
They’re also very active at the state level.

Until N.O.W. shutters it’s doors (and hundreds of satelite orifices) we cannot rest. Our political leaders are WAY behind the curve on what’s happening. We need to engage them. These groups tell women how to vote, and politicians know it.

I’m sorry if you’re a dyed in the wool Democrat, if you really give a shit about men, you’ll vote Republican/Tea Party. The Democratic part IS the party of marxist women…REAL feminism. Go ahead, re-elect Obama and watch him turn the Supreme Court into a gynocratic ruling body. He’s already placed two feminists. Wanna see him do more?

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) February 25, 2011 at 08:59

aharon February 25, 2011 at 08:36
“If I had been female and had I been emotionally, physically, or sexually abused (by a man) my relatives would probably have rallied in support of me.”

Yep. Both my brothers are ‘not interested’ in hearing anything about what I have been through or what I am doing. Yet BOTH would leap over hot coals to assist a woman they didn’t even know. THAT’s how it is. Men simply do NOT help other men. How many times have I called on men here to even put a post or two over here? http://tnsradio.ning.com/forum Plenty. How many have? Almost none.

99%+ of men won’t help another man even with 5 minutes of his time sitting in his own home at a keyboard. It’s pathetic. I am actually more disgusted in men in general than I am in women in general. All the men here might want to listen hard to THAT comment because it is well evidenced.

I was talking to my dad for christmas. I pointed out to him that he could give himself some credit raising a man who is willing to go up against the guvment in his own name for the benefit of others. I pointed out that now such men are less than 1 in 1,000 and he managed to raise one. Sadly. Not three.

Personally? I don’t know how the other 999 guys look themselves in the mirror in the morning. I quit this effort last year at the lack of willingness of men to pull their heads out of their arse long enough to do something useful when asked. I got drunk for 3-4 days. Every time I tried to shave I couldn’t look myself in the mirror. I simply couldn’t dis-honour the men in my life by quitting and putting my own desires in front of the needs of so many young boys who will live in abject slavery if I fail.

I’d be really interested to hear how so many men here can refuse to do what I percieve is their duty to their fellow men and boys. I mean. It is MOST of you men here who refuse to do their duty hiding behind cop-outs like ‘I might get hurt of I speak out’. I really am sick of the refusal of men to take action. Maybe that’s why I got banned off MGTOW last night. Who knows…they didn’t bother telling me why.

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W.F. Price February 25, 2011 at 09:00

There is going to be a HUGE shake out and women will be discarded from companies in their tens of millions.

-Peter

Maybe that’s why they are pushing the “equality” legislation so hard these days.

BTW, Peter, downloaded and read the tracking pdf on your ex. Man, she was getting around. I think if a sample of wives were surreptitiously outfitted with tracking devices we’d see similar behavior in a large percentage of them.

BTW, I stayed in Dun Laoghaire for a week or so. Not a bad little ‘burb. Quite convenient.

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Buck Swamp February 25, 2011 at 09:04

The subject is the end of feminism and what comes next.
At least in America, there are two factors that are beginning to weaken feminism. First, the economic collapse is straining the financial underpinnings of feminism. Second, the number of American males who are turning their backs on traditional male roles seems to be growing exponentially.
But let’s not underestimate our enemy. Women still have the vast resources and coercive powers of the all-encompassing federal and state governments solidly behind them. And both major political parties still support feminism unquestionably. The result could be that, as the foundations of feminism crack, the state will impose even more onerous burdens on men, in the form of taxes and laws designed to transfer even more wealth from men to women.
I understand the ruthless selfishness of all women (I have been married twice), but we all know that women can do nothing without the help of men, and that includes the enslavement of men. The victory of the MRM will only come when we convince enough of our fellow men of the utter evil and destructiveness of feminism.
And when feminism is finally defeated, I pray that America will not go back to what we had before feminism. My hope is that Americans will finally do away with female privilege in favor of true equality for both sexes under the law.

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Poester99 February 25, 2011 at 09:12

@All,

That “high road” is how I’ve always argued with the females in my life.

I want to get them to think, not to blow a gasket, because if they are related to me, they can probably be as pigheaded and stubborn as I.

@Alcuin,

DD seems to have stepped on a (your) nerve.
He never implied it applied to everyone reading here.

Sir, you’re a jackass. A sanctimonious jackass.

You’re entitled to your opinion, but I liked the article. I’m also desperately grasping around for the possibility of a happy ending, without manginaish watering down or discarding of the principles.

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AfOR February 25, 2011 at 09:18

I’ve submitted and article about internet dating, whether it is in the queue or discarded I do not know, however…..

The real (unwritten) point of the article was to highlight exactly what happens when modern western women get put in a lab rat experiment where they can act as they please, without oversight, without constraint…. which is exactly what a dating site is….

All these women that are queuing up to be friends with benefits / submissive sluts are someone’s ex, someone’s mum, someone’s alimony recipient, someone’s public sector worker, and you have to see it to believe it.

The real nature of women is how they behave on dating sites.
100% skank ho’s >;^)
(gotta love it)

Ignore everything else.

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aharon February 25, 2011 at 09:39

Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) Yep. Both my brothers are ‘not interested’ in hearing anything about what I have been through or what I am doing. Yet BOTH would leap over hot coals to assist a woman they didn’t even know. THAT’s how it is. Men simply do NOT help other men.

My frustrations too. As early as the mid-80s I tried discussing misandry with men and the interest level was zilch. The only men interested in the men’s movement wanted to go into the woods and dress up like wild indians and bang on drums.

I do sense a gradual awakening within men about misandry. Obviously the awareness and interest in now slowly discussing the way men are badly treated in the west has to come before men take action.

Chivalry is dieing off among many men and especially the younger men though there are also a number of left-wing manginas that support feminism. Men are trained to suffer in silence and not be like a weak girl and not confront women. We are still dealing with that though a transition is occurring with growing anger among men. Men in modern western societies do not have the bonds, shared values, and pride in being men that older cultures still have to a strong degree.

Men need to suffer more before they will start to support each other.

BTW, I went to the TNS link you posted to sign-up and then skipped to the main page. I would be happy to make a post about the MM for you yet I did not see a relevant gender/misandry article to post under.

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Peter February 25, 2011 at 09:39

Consider, for example, my world passport. If men here would help me get my world passport working then any man in the US who is being robbed blind can get a world passport and LEAVE his prison. Alas. No-one can be bothered to help me do that so I am left to do that on my own. The men in the MRA area are very, very reluctant to actually DO anything useful.

Globalman, sometimes you make good points, but when you start talking about your unrealistic “free man” movement, I completely lose you. The truth is, there is no such thing as a “world passport”, and there never will be. Also, you haven’t succeeded in defeating the western legal system, you’ve simply skipped countries to avoid paying child support. If you were to come back to Australia tomorrow, you’d likely be arrested for non-payment, and find yourself in a very real prison, despite your “sworn affidavits”, and other worthless documents.

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oddsock February 25, 2011 at 09:42

@Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c)

Peter. I enjoy your posts as I do many others on here. I understand your frustration with the lack of direct help from other men. Perhaps it is just our nature ? Having said that, consider all the MRA websites now offering advice. Not only that, it is global. For the first time in history we actually have men chatting with each other right across the globe, swapping stories/experience etc etc. We are spreading the male meme and raising awareness at an ever increaing rate.

Try not to be too downhearted about the lack of direct support from men. Keep in mind that we are still surrounded by manginas white knights and pussy beggars who would use any info and employ any tactic to get a sniff of praise from a woman. Therefore most men will be very reluctant to reveal their plans to some stranger on the interent regardless of how good his alledged MRA/MGTOW background looks. Just look on this site alone. There are already a number of trolls pretending to be something they are not, some are even male.

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aharon February 25, 2011 at 09:44

And when feminism is finally defeated, I pray that America will not go back to what we had before feminism. My hope is that Americans will finally do away with female privilege in favor of true equality for both sexes under the law.

Great post. I do hope we don’t and I don’t think we will go back to how America was before feminism. Women were spoiled brats back then too with men doing the majority of working long hours at some soul-sucking corporation and the male gender being required to fight and die in the wars.

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SMC February 25, 2011 at 09:51

FYI feminism will not die if the males like the ones that populate this site are the forefront of killing it.

Feminism WILL morph into NEW FORMS of manipulation of these males. (Ie it will be a Pyrrhic victory.)

Feminism in its original (1st-3rd wave) form was the previous form of/system for manipulating these males.

Sad but true.

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continent February 25, 2011 at 09:56

@ W.F. Price,
Please forgive me if I’m intruding into confidential communication, but was the comment meant for all of us to understand? Quote
“”BTW, Peter, downloaded and read the tracking pdf on your ex. Man, she was getting around. I think if a sample of wives were surreptitiously outfitted with tracking devices we’d see similar behavior in a large percentage of them.”
Presuming you were addressing P.A.N I visited his previous post and it had a link to sign into TSA radio, which didn’t explain what it was.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) February 25, 2011 at 10:01

You guys would do well to watch this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMCykEjYOio&feature=player_profilepage

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Rebel February 25, 2011 at 10:07

Oddsock: greetings.

To think that feminism will die or execute itself is quite delusional, IMO.

But when you think about it, does it matter to us wether feminism dies or not?

The minds of women in our sphere have been corrupted. Does anyone think that women will come back to reason? And if they did, would you then marry a harpy?
An above all, do we really want that? For what purpose?

We already have all it takes to defend ourselves from this institution:
*Don’t marry a feminist.
*Don’t reproduce with a feminist.
*Don’t sell your swimmers.
*Work only as much as you need to keep an acceptable standard of living, therefore reducing your income tax.
*Learn the art of being selfish and a hedonist.
*Live only for yourself.
*Sex with prostitutes only (or none at all).
*Disengage from this society of consumption.
*Care not about what women say or do.
*Take everything this society will give you. No obligation to reciprocate. You owe society absolutely nothing.

Stay away from:
*Responsibilities
*Commitments
*Obligations.
*Duty. (aka: draft)

If men simply did this on a larger scale, I do not see how the govarmin could do anything.

This is a matriarchy now: no longer a patriarchy. This means, for all intents and purposes, that women carry the full weight of society upon their shoulders, while men avoid the stressful life of modern days. In more ways than one, a man’s life can become easy and without stress. More so than ever before. Nothing stands in the way of a man’s freedom if he forfeits marriage and family.
And when you think about it, in what ways is a family such a good thing?

The death or survival of feminism is no longer men’s concern if we can only take our life back into our own hands.

Now, if women work as hard as men did in the past, I don’t see how society would have to collapse. Indeed, I think that women should be pushed to “output” more work so that we can keep our standard of living.
Work is for women.

Life is too short to worry.
Not worth it.
Just take it easy.
And please understand that we have been set free. Reach out and grab a new freedom offered to you on a silver platter instead of a life of slavery.

And most of all:…
Carpe Diem.

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Gunn February 25, 2011 at 10:08

@OP – defensive much? To me, its you who seems to be the armchair strategist, and worse, you don’t understand female psychology. Fighting every battle head on is a sure way to get killed. Creating the strawman that your naysayers never talk truth to the women in their lives based on your very specific scenario is risible. Instead of hyperventilating that people aren’t falling over themselves to agree with you, perhaps listen and consider the point being made first.

You are making a category error when you talk about causes and effects; the changes we are seeing are the result of millions of small actions, taken everyday by millions of individual people. Human nature seeks to posit a post-hoc narrative to explain what happens, but its a mistake to think that reality works in the cause to effect direction assumed by your narrative. You want to believe the advice you’re giving, but you should listen when older and wiser guys are telling you of the shortcomings of your views, based on their very real experiences of life.

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Old Guy February 25, 2011 at 10:10

The thing missing from the article is direct political action. The MRM is going to surface at some point. Feminists will shine the light on it as evidence of the evil of men if it doesn’t reveal itself voluntarily. At first it will be discounted as a bunch of whiny Peter Pans who refuse to grow up, but that doesn’t matter. The message will get out to more men. The battle will be joined, and once started, we will win.

The original Feminists and the original US Black Rights protesters did not have the power of government behind them, it was in front of them, and many went to jail, and some were killed, but they kept on and won the day. Men are large in number, there is a deep reservoir of pent up resentment and anger in them, and at some point it will boil over. Visible political action will be unsuccessful and dangerous at first, but it will eventually wake many of our brothers from their stupor.

We also have to make a legal challenge to unfair laws. Equal protection under the law is a US right. I don’t know about other countries, but that gives us great leverage here. It took the gun people 60 years to begin getting gun owner’s rights restored in the courts and in the law, but it is happening. It took Black Americans several hundred years to fully repeal slavery and gain full voting and economic rights. Feminists have been hard at work for 150 years creating the current mess, it will take decades of court challenges to undo the bad laws.

We need to have spokesman who publicly denounce every bit of misandry that is pronounced by any public official. We have to make them fear insulting men as much as they fear insulting women.

Places like this are a good start. These underground caverns are where we will hone our arguments and set our strategies.

I just found this place. It has become a new daily read, and it is giving me hope.

Thanks for the effort.

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Lorne February 25, 2011 at 10:30

After having been forced to deal with this crap for thirty years, I want to see it all burn. If I get the chance, I will happily assist. I couldn’t care less what happens to the bitches.

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Fourmyle of Ceres February 25, 2011 at 10:30

@Alcuin, two thoughts.

1. How many women have you converted over to “our side” with your direct approach?

2. DD’s (accurate) description of how some men behave isn’t a direct accusation of your behavior (or anyone else’s, specifcally). DD probably wouldn’t know you from Adam. Relax. His larger point that we ought to have a strategy for a “soft landing” post-feminism is a good one. A hard crash may wipe the slate truly clean, but many children and non-feminists will get wiped out too that way.

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Rebel February 25, 2011 at 10:35

“Skadi February 25, 2011 at 10:28
“Learn the art of being selfish and a hedonist.”

Hedonist does not equal “selfish”.

Epicurus taught askesis that was detached from imminent desire.

Fuddle Yoddle.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) February 25, 2011 at 10:36

Skadi February 25, 2011 at 09:49
“Peter Nolan, is it true what you say that your wife took 95% of your earnings over 20 or who knows how many years?”

Skadi. I will bother to answer you this time. Here are the annotated transcript and court order.

Despite being a VERY good earner for MANY years and having what could only be considered an excellent career in my chosen field from 1982-2007 (yes, 25 years) the proceeds I was so generously given was 5%. EUR12,000. This on top of EUR50,000 costs I incurred in the divorce. I chose to spend the money on the liars/lawyers because I knew I would get it back from them later via our common law courts.

So yes. The amount I was ‘generously given’ represented 5% of assets even though those assets were vastly depleted by Jennifers wreckless spending. I mean. Who really needs 8 overseas holidays a year? I actually believe she was stealing money during much of our marriage. She knew the divorce had to happen one day as she knew she had lied to me right up front and when the lie eventually came out that I would divorce her.

Go ahead young men. Read this transcript and court order. I don’t know of any other man who has placed such evidence of crimes committed in a family court into the public lawfully. Learn from my case. Tell all your mates. You get married while this system is in place you are an idiot and deserve your slavery. Period.

http://www.peternolan.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=PAC6601_2007+20091126Reissue+Final.pdf&tabid=538&mid=1230
http://www.peternolan.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=PN_Order_NvN.pdf&tabid=538&mid=1230

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Peter February 25, 2011 at 10:41

Nothing stands in the way of a man’s freedom if he forfeits marriage and family.
And when you think about it, in what ways is a family such a good thing?

It’s rewarding, and gives life purpose and meaning. Insofar as life has a purpose, it is to perpetuate itself. By starting a family and helping raise children to adulthood, you become part of that purpose. Children also give one a small measure of immortality, in that they can pass on their genes, and hopefully, some of their values, to the next generation.

The truth is, most men want to have children and families. Many these days choose not to because of the potential risk and downside, in their view, outweighs the rewards. The rewards, however, are still there.

Rebel:
We already have all it takes to defend ourselves from this institution:
*Don’t marry a feminist.
*Don’t reproduce with a feminist.

Do you mean “feminist” as in PMAFT’s concept of hybrid feminism? I.e., are you simply saying “don’t marry or reproduce with any woman?” If not, then realize that the most bible thumping churchy virgin you find might decide to find herself 10 years into her marriage and screw you over.

*Don’t sell your swimmers.

Why not? It’s a cheap way to spread your genes to the next generation. The risk of laws being changed in the next 18 years is there, allowing your “children” to sue you for support or simply to learn your identity, but it’s definitely a smaller risk than marriage.

*Work only as much as you need to keep an acceptable standard of living, therefore reducing your income tax.

Plausible, at first glance. But look towards the future: it portends all sorts of rearguard action on the part of feminists. The government will raise taxes, forcing you to work more and pay more into the system to maintain the same standard of living. Go on welfare, you say? With ever tightening budgets, single men will be the first ones cut off from social assistance, and single moms will be the last. Go off the grid? Sure, you can essentially meld into the underground, but then you’re a criminal, and you might well end up in jail or shot. For these reasons, MGTOW has no future.

*Learn the art of being selfish and a hedonist.
*Live only for yourself.

Again, a matter of personal taste, but a life lived entirely for oneself is empty.

*Sex with prostitutes only (or none at all).

Again, rearguard actions on the part of feminism against MGTOW will become prevalent. For feminists, it’s never been about protecting vulnerable women, it’s always been about increasing the ordinary woman’s value by decreasing competition. Look for laws legalizing the sale of sex but outlawing the purchase of it, as in Sweden. The possibilty of jail for paid sex raises the market value of today’s blubberbutt women at no cost to them.

Then there’s the fact you have sex with a condom for the rest of your life, and can still get something anyway.

*Disengage from this society of consumption.

You say this, but what about your acceptable standard of living? What about a life of hedonism and selfishness? Your prostitutes? How do you square this statement against those previous three? Even if you life a life entirely within WoW, you will still need to pay for a computer, internet connection, and extra large sweat pants.

*Take everything this society will give you. No obligation to reciprocate. You owe society absolutely nothing.

Fair enough. But you will find that, as in europe, the reciprocation will be forced upon you.

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Firepower February 25, 2011 at 10:42

Feminism is going to die. Soon.

After the sun has set on feminism’s final day, the world that’s left for us will look very different – whether it’s a decent place or not will depend on the methods we use to get there.

If you’re making a rousing speech to motivate the troops – good. I’m all for it.

Provided the FINALLY show some get-up-and-go.

But, if you truly believe this, there is no proof of it (at all) once we shut down the ‘puter and walk out that front door.

There’s certainly no proof of it at work – or in courts.
All you have to do is look who’s in the White House (and who elected him to that Regal Throne).

Because there are no troops to man the “Glorious Revolution” – the End of America will be more Dark Ages than 1776.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) February 25, 2011 at 10:43

oddsock February 25, 2011 at 09:42
“Try not to be too downhearted about the lack of direct support from men.”

Oddsock. I am not downhearted. I am disgusted. There is a BIG difference. In the last 12 months it is estimated that in Australia 4,000 men killed themselves from the abuse of the FC/CSA. The ONLY reason that happened was MEN ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN. PERIOD. We now have the numbers we need in Australia and we will get our courts in Australia. Not a problem. We are up to working out the outlawry writ stages etc in Australia. But if we were faster? How many of those mens lives could be saved? Lots. If men here bothered to learn how to use what I have published? How many lives could be saved. The men here are JUST AS GUILTY as the women committing these crimes because the men here are NOT educating themselves to then go on to save mens lives and I am prepared to say that.

Now. I have asked men nicely enough for long enough. I am not asking nicely any more. I will put a mans feet to the fire and if he refuses to sign up it’s “fuck off and die” time. I am also going to expose liars and hypocrites like Chris Fields just as much as I can. ALL men who are putting themselves forward as leaders are going to be put the question as to whether they will hold women who claimed equality as equal before the law and their response, or lack of it, will be published. I am sick and tired of men refusing to stop this slaughter of men and the fatherlessness of boys. I am going to do something about it. If other men don’t? So what? Let THEM live with the consequences of THEIR actions.

A friend of mine as a relative in jail on an FRA. A very close relative. He wrote to me the other night words to the effect. “It is not lost on me that I have done nothing about FRAs all my life even though I knew they were happening. And now it is happening to someone I love and there is no way I can save him because I did nothing about it for other men.” He’s very upset about this FRA. The man is elderly and may die in jail.

I will label ANY MAN who refuses to sit on juries with any damn label I like. Its not the role of a jury member to enforce the remedy. It’s only the jury members role to determine innocence or guilt and issue the remedy. That men WILL NOT DO THIS because of bogus claims of ‘well I do not believe it will work’? NOT YOUR PROBLEM! Let some REAL MEN figure that out. YOU were only asked to make a decision and be PAID for it. And men won’t even do that. Like I said. Pa-thet-ic.

If men won’t create a path to justice for men who have had crimes committed against them just because it is the RIGHT thing to do? Then I am not above cussing and swearing and naming and shaming them into doing the RIGHT thing. If men hate on me for that? So what? They’ve had the carrot. Might be time for a bit of stick. Unless a man can point to having done more than me like Norman Scarth? His ‘upset’ is not going to bother me.

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Bill Brasky February 25, 2011 at 10:44

Look up the latest Charlie Sheen rant…

I don’t usually keep up with celebs, but he just said some seriously honest, nasty sh*t.

I don’t have it all, but he was lashing out at people for judging him. He referred to their loser lives of “ugly wives and ugly kids” and how they look at him and just can’t “process it”.

The man is a human turd, but he is obviously what women want. I can’t wait to see where the rhetoric on this goes…

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) February 25, 2011 at 10:52

aharon February 25, 2011 at 09:39
“BTW, I went to the TNS link you posted to sign-up and then skipped to the main page. I would be happy to make a post about the MM for you yet I did not see a relevant gender/misandry article to post under.”

aharon. You will see some posts started by me with respect to MRM etc. Just post into those if you will. Or even start a new thread. The forum is very inactive but quite a few people read it. ALL people there are aware of my case. This is a ‘split’ forum from the old Free Man Ireland site. I left that site and deleted my posts as it became clear there were not enough men there to create a jury. Many men left after DaveKey organised a meet up calling for jury members for my case and NO men from that site turned up. He was very, very disgusted in his fellow Irish Men. The 5 men who DID turn up were from the site I now link to.

By the way. It is well worth being part of that site and well worth asking the guys how they are going in their cases. There are not many cases with FATHERS but guys have lots of OTHER cases going on. They are currently trying to get the guvment to confess that the oil and gas belongs to the people and there is a letter writing campaign going on about that.

http://tnsradio.ning.com/forum

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) February 25, 2011 at 10:55

W.F. Price February 25, 2011 at 09:00
“BTW, Peter, downloaded and read the tracking pdf on your ex. Man, she was getting around. I think if a sample of wives were surreptitiously outfitted with tracking devices we’d see similar behavior in a large percentage of them.”

Welmer. Yes. She WAS getting around. And sleeping overnight in a house less than 1kms away from our then house. While claiming to have two kids to take care of? Hhhmmmmm. As you can see from the tracking pattern and the sms patterns. It is strong evidence of prostitution. I was ‘tipped off’ to this when my daughter (then 16) told me “Mum even got a job cleaning houses because you are not giving her money”. I laughed my arse off. That woman didn’t clean her OWN house. I knew the job could NOT be house cleaning. So I had the car tracked.

I won’t make an accusation. But the evidence is pretty clear. What the hell is a woman doing in a cemetary for 40 minutes in a car with no heater in a dublin winter when she knows full well her husband is in another country? SHE is obviously not hiding from anyone. So HE has to be hiding from someone. The term ‘get a hotel room’ comes to mind. IF, and it is a big IF, she was committing prostitution it was because she refused to draw down on the collateral we had in our house. So she had PLENTY of money available to her. She refused to use it as she thought she would get the whole house. She didn’t bank on on the global crisis and housing prices dropping significantly in Australia. My EEW tell me women cheat more than men because they are no so closely watched.

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W.F. Price February 25, 2011 at 11:03

Welmer. Yes. She WAS getting around. And sleeping overnight in a house less than 1kms away from our then house. While claiming to have two kids to take care of? Hhhmmmmm. As you can see from the tracking pattern and the sms patterns. It is strong evidence of prostitution.

-Peter

Well, it’s possible, but married women are often all too happy to give it away for free.

What the hell is a woman doing in a cemetary for 40 minutes in a car with no heater in a dublin winter when she knows full well her husband is in another country?

That is pretty kinky — there are some weird people out there.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) February 25, 2011 at 11:23

W.F. Price February 25, 2011 at 11:03
“Well, it’s possible, but married women are often all too happy to give it away for free.”

Welmer. You likely did not notice the timestamps. No woman can arrive exactly 5 minutes before the hour and leave around 5 minutes after the hour for ANYTHING. When was the last time you saw women hold a meeting and arrive on time and keep it to exactly an hour? I’ve been working 29 years and that would be new to me.

If she was putting out for free she would not be arriving so close to the hour and leaving so close after the hour. She would also not have the ‘clustering’ on her smss. ‘Clustering’ is where you get a set of 3-5 sms one day. 3-5 the next day (when there is an unexplained one hour ‘visit’), and 1-2 the third day and NEVER see the number before or after. Women who put out for free? You will see the numbers repeated for specific meetings. Further. A NUMBER of the places were secured parking at apartment buildings. You can’t get into the car park unless someone lets you in. And we didn’t know people in those buildings. One hour is NOT enough time to clean even a modest apartment. And over-night? Who ‘cleans a house’ overnight and comes home at 6am to get the kids off to school?

My former son will know what the real deal is as he was still there at this time. He must have known she was out overnight. It’s not something you can hide. It will all eventually come out in the wash.

What IS interesting is that I sent the link to the PDF to the International Womens Club of Dublin letting them know this evidence. After all. IF she WAS doing prostitution THEIR husbands would be excellent ‘Johns’ because most of them are very wealthy but closely watched. What could be more ‘innocent’ than ‘happening to bump into one of the women from the club’, eh? Even in the face of THIS evidence the women showed solidarity to the woman. Surprise, surprise. Women are not that upset about ‘prostitution’ unless it is hurling abuse at a man for using one! LOL! Colour me surprised, eh?

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oddsock February 25, 2011 at 11:23

@Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c)

I admire your stance and also understand your disgust. Men are there own worst enemy. My disgust nay rage goes as far back as the late 70′s. We have had many men here in the UK that topped themselves because of the CSA and blocked access to their own kids. I have done as much as I can to raise awareness and at various stages had to withdraw from the MRA scene for a short while for my own sanity caused by extreme frustration. For what it is worth, I also experienced my own family turn against me despite the evidence of my horrible treatment by the courts and ex wife. That was many moons ago, these days I have decided my best action is to continue raising awareness but I no longer expect men to rally around each other in a show of solidarity. I now focus on my own happiness and enjoyment of life and eventually came to the conclusion that society would need to implode before any change could take place. It is happening far sooner than I thought. I never really expected it to implode in my life time. Looks like I was wrong. I suspect this will happen before you make any significant changes to the law. Simply my opinion mate. My own strategy is to withdraw as much as possible and not help keep this misandric bubble inflated any longer than neccessary. Actually, my darker side is quite looking forward to it’s collapse.

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Andrew S. February 25, 2011 at 11:24

I fully expect that if/when American Society finally collapses that the most vocal feminist women will be the first in line to try and get into Alpha males harems. They will be running, not walking trying to get a prime spot with the men who will be able to protect them.

And the only thing funnier than this will be watching feminist men/manginas/white knights with their mouth agape as they get trampled by women sprinting to the nearest alpha.

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Rebel February 25, 2011 at 11:27

@Peter.

Anything you say, man.

I accept your criticism, no sweat.

I haven’t heard your solution, though..

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) February 25, 2011 at 11:33

OT..but his is how bad ‘journalism’ is now.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1360488/Charlie-Sheen-rant-Two-And-A-Half-Men-halted-bizarre-radio-outburst.html

His father Martin, best known for playing President Jed Bartlet in The West Wing, has said his son’s drink and drug addictions are a ‘form of cancer’.

As one reader said….Um? Ever heard of Apocalypse Now?

Charlie Sheen is what life looks like after feminism…when you DO NOT CARE what other people say about you.

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oddsock February 25, 2011 at 11:42

@Rebel

Thanks for the welcome old bean.

As far as I was aware, Hedonism is a relgion that started in India when some dude declared that all the Hindu priests were liars and there was no afterlife and people should persue a life of sensual pleasure, further developed by the Greeks and Romans but still along the same lines of seeking self satisfaction and a life of sensual pleasure.

Sounds good to me although I have now converted to Buddhism. I wish to be reincarnated as the bicycle seat of Miss World. As long as its not some western bint with a scabby minge!

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Anti Idiocy February 25, 2011 at 11:51

@ Alcuin:

Sir, you’re a jackass. A sanctimonious jackass. To wit: “Speaking our minds to feminist-influenced women only when we’re sitting at our keyboards or boycotting feminism only in those people who are so unimportant to our lives that we cut them out without a second thought is shamefully, pitifully, laughably insignificant.”

That’s about where I quit reading the essay.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) February 25, 2011 at 11:57

Skadi February 25, 2011 at 11:26
Peter, why? I’m not able to read all your text, as there are too many characters involved. But why? And above all who? Who took all your hard earned money from you? What is the purpose of such a robbery.. did they gain something?

Um. Skadi…did you miss the bit where I mentioned that I LAWFULLY video recorded the court proceeding, gathered evidence of the crime of impersonating a public officer, common law theft, and sent all that to the Prime Minister and Attorney General, and demanded that they, as my servants, return my property to me and punish magistrate david dunkley for committing this crime as well as magistrate louise henderson for stealing my house?

Now. Why do you think they took the proceeds of my house off me? Might it be to try and run me out of money so I could not continue exposing the Prime Minister and Attorney General as common thiefs? Eh? Just maybe? Here is the letter I sent to Kevin Rudd and Robert McClelland.

It was sent by registered mail and has been on my site for a long time. I am sure they got it. So. Any other men who have created a bundle of evidence like this and served it with a lawful notice to a Prime Minister or President? Just put up your hand, eh? Any takers?

What I did was create the situation were the PM/AG had to commit a crime to keep the game going. And then gather the evidence of the crime. That’s why I thought they might kill me. But they are relying on the stupidity and wilfull ignorance of men instead. Good bet if you ask me. This lawful notice and the subsequent passage of time makes the AG/PM guilty of TREASON. How about that? And they are going to be tried for common law theft first and TREASON if I get the first guilty verdict. Anyone else here going for a TREASON verdict for a Prime Minister or President? They could not know I had enough money to keep at this process. They couldn’t see my income. By the time I went for this case I had enough cash on hand to last through the case.

Yeah. I know. I’m just being stuck up and arrogant and a smart arse pointing out what I have achieved. Sure. Guys. I’m trying to stop the deaths of 4,000 Australian men a year and re-introduce the rule of law in Australia. I’m going to do it too. We now have the numbers thanks to magnificent efforts by MANY MEN (and almost NO women). Now. If OTHER men in OTHER countries want to start doing the same? Well that would be nice. But I WILL be successful in Australia/Ireland and that will be enough for me.

http://www.peternolan.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=PN_Notice_Kevin_Rudd.pdf&tabid=538&mid=1230

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Robert February 25, 2011 at 12:04

Let me say this; One of the greatest indictments against feminism, and it’s ilk/ supporters/ enablers, is the destruction THAT THEY CAUSED/WROUGHT UPON INNOCENT MEN AND BOYS!

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Robert February 25, 2011 at 12:13

They can NEVER undo what they have done/caused to be done. They can NEVER give life back to those they murdered/caused to be murdered. They cannot make up for the lives they HAVE destroyed. They, in their desparation, know this. If a man has only lost money, they might be able to compensate him by giving the amount he lost but, when a man has lost his life/years of his life, how can he be compensated? Years lost cannot be repaid. The loss of a promising career and life cannot be repaid/given back.

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oddsock February 25, 2011 at 12:14

Nope C?rv?ka started it 600BC about 300 years before Epicurus. He developed his own version around 300BC

C?rv?ka was an Indian hedonist school of thought that arose approximately about 600 BC, and died out in the 14th century CE. The C?rv?kas maintained that the Hindu scriptures are false, that the priests are liars, and that there is no afterlife, and that pleasure should be the aim of living. Unlike other Indian schools of philosophy, the C?rv?kas argued that there is nothing wrong with sensual indulgence

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Robert February 25, 2011 at 12:17

The wise watch feminism and its’ ilk, supporters and, enablers very carefully. A leopard, if it could, can change its’ spots but its’ still a leopard.

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oddsock February 25, 2011 at 12:20

@Robert

Sadly, although I agree totally. I doubt they would even bat an eyelid as to the damage they have caused. Most think it is a fair pay back for the imagined crimes all we men have committed against womankind. Just observe todays modern woman even the ones that say they know little of feminist ideology. They could not give a flying feck about their own sons and other male family members let alone men in general.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) February 25, 2011 at 12:28

@YOUNG MEN.

Here is something VERY important for you to know so listen up.

In my case I was given 5% of the proceeds of my 25 years of labour even though the MAJORITY of those proceeds were the result of me renovating two houses and NOT my job. I made good money, sure but we had high expenses with 4 kids. I worked nights and weekends for many years renovating MY two houses. My MC called me ‘the rembrant of radiata’ at my wedding because I was able to build cupboards etc. My Uncle was a builder and I laboured for him on weekends and holidays at times.

But what you REALLY want to get is (almost) NO-ONE expressed concern to me that this was the case. NOT my brothers. NOT my father. NOT my former children. NOT my in-laws. NOT my best man. NOT my longest term friend. NOT my cousins. ALMOST NO-ONE.

The REALLY IMPORTANT lesson for you YOUNG MEN is that you are SO HATED AND DESPISED that when you have your children, your house, your assets stolen, and every effort to steal your future income too!

NO-ONE WILL GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU. And I want to make this REALLY CLEAR. NOT EVEN 99% OF MRAS.

YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN.

Let that sink in for a bit. Then when someone tells you how you should ‘man up’? Tell them to ‘f*** off and die’ and feel free to cite my case as how men who ‘man-up’ are treated.

Tell all your mates.

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MegaLogic3 February 25, 2011 at 13:15

A wonderful argument has been made and some great suggestions have been portrayed in this article. I have a few points though:

When it comes to husbands, it is actually within their best interests to be quiet. Whether it regards being allowed to have sex with their wives, or being allowed to sleep in their own beds, it is beneficial that they agree with what their wife says/does/thinks/feels/doesn’t feel etc.

Discussing these issues with many (not all) women is instantly met with shaming language such as “man up”, “stop whining” and obvious rhetoric “board rooms mostly men”, “men commit DV” etc. Logic cannot prevail when the person you speak to has none of it.

Many (not all) women have been agreed with their whole lives. Be it with their female friends so that the ‘close-bond’ can last, or with guys who wish to marinate their manhoods with vaginal juices. The very act of disagreeing presents a situation that they are not used to and do not know how to respond to. I remember giving a colleage of mine feedback on a piece of work that she submitted, she took this feedback as a form of personal attack.

My point is that whilst it is a very good idea to fight the good fight and try to educate, there will be issues that make this a task more difficult than simply “educating women”. So whilst I will continue to speak in situations with others I deem most appropriate and neccessary, I hope that others like me know the issues that they WILL face when they try to prevent this world from imploding.

Keep up the good work.

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Lavazza February 25, 2011 at 13:20

oddsock: My Indian guru once mentioned the Charvakas. He said something in the line that they were the first and strongest materialists. Marxism was kindergarten compared to them.

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TomJW February 25, 2011 at 15:53

Go ahead with your plan DD. I just got a contract to convince 1,000 mules to do what they don’t want to do. I bet I finish before you convert 10 feminists.

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Gunn February 25, 2011 at 16:17

Seriously, you guys that are reflexively voting up/down need to stop circle-jerking.

The OP here is clearly immature, even if his heart is in the right place.

Its not clever to follow the crowd; find your own path, and ensure that your head, heart, and gut are connected. If you can’t do that, don’t post amongst the adults.

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KARMA MRA MGTOW February 25, 2011 at 16:27

‘Educating Women – Little effort is currently being made by men to educate women about the error of their feminist ways, ‘and very few women are inclined to listen’

Yep keep it that way – stuff the women – not our problem.We have to play a game to total non violent war.

‘As women come to face more and more abandonment and violence from the growing number of disillusioned men..’

I think violence against women will go down – not up – as men avoid women at all costs.

I hope abandonment does go up – big time.The more men that are educated by MRA’S the less prone to violence they will be due to the fact they will not be the ‘disillusioned men’ you mention.

Feminists – we can breed them out buy not mating with them.Feminist demon spawn has no future in the human race.

So if millions of feminist women do not breed- so what.Not an MRA or male problem.

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fschmidt February 25, 2011 at 16:48

I just skimmed this article, but the thought patterns here at The Spearhead are so predictable that usually I just need to read the title of an article and I know everything that it will say. I assume that this article says that feminism will self-destruct soon and that we can look forward to a better future. As usual for The Spearhead, this is completely wrong. If you want to learn about the future, read “The Secret History” by Procopius which describes the Byzantine Empire under bad-boy emperor Justinian and his slut/bitch wife, empress Theodora. This is what followed the downfall of the Roman Empire, and it wasn’t pretty. Bad-boys and sluts literally took over, and decent people were powerless. Feminism was strong during the decline of the Roman Empire, but it just morphed into another form in Byzantine Empire. As Procopius said:

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The ladies of the court at this time were nearly all of abandoned morals. They ran no risk in being faithless to their husbands, as the sin brought no penalty: even if caught in the act, they were unpunished, for all they had to do was to go to the Empress, claim the charge was not proven, and start a countersuit against their husbands. The latter, defeated without a trial, had to pay a fine of twice the dower, and were usually whipped and sent to prison; and the next time they saw their adulterous wives again, the ladies would be daintily entertaining their lovers more openly than ever. Indeed, many of the latter gained promotion and pay for their amorous services. After one such experience, most men who suffered these outrages from their wives preferred thereafter to be complaisant instead of being whipped, and gave them every liberty rather than seem to be spying on their affairs.
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I think this is what America will look like in the latter half of this century.

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Anonymous Protagonist February 25, 2011 at 17:09

@fschmidt

Latter half of the century?! Lol, it’s like that right now. Maybe not on the same scale but that’s not the point. If cheating, lies, and vastly disproportionate failures of justice are commonplace today (and they are) we’re not that far off.

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Lovekraft February 25, 2011 at 18:24

DDs article was very prophetic. A useful tool in our fight and should be studied closely. Seems we all went off into comment-land where the insight of his article got lost.

He mentioned 4 possible future scenarios for the MRM:

# Educating Men
# Leaving Women to Fend for Themselves
# Violence
# Educating Women

It is the third one we need to be very aware of, for it could be our downfall. Imposters could act as one of us, carry out a Loughner-style attack, and the full brunt of Big Gov’t would wipe out this and other websites (and leave a warning to other wannabes) in a heartbeat.

Again, fellows, we have to remember to POSITION our movement so that there is not even an inkling that we would resort to violence. If that idea is allowed to fester on the Spearhead and its peripheral associated sites, we would be setting up our own demise. RENOUNCE violence whenever someone tries to advance that idea.

Good politics, good strategy, good morality.

Good night.

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helvetica February 25, 2011 at 18:47

This may only be marginally related to the article, but I wanted to respond to this one thing that I have seen floating around the manosphere – the idea that Islamic men are “alpha” or more masculine. Based on personal observation, I am not so sure this is totally true.

By way of background info, I have one parent from a majority-Muslim country which I have visited – however, we are not and have never been Muslims. I currently live in the USA. I am sure that this blog is widely-read enough that there are people with more exposure to Islam than me, but whatever.

A few observations:
- Muslim men just don’t act alpha. They slouch around, don’t make eye contact, aren’t terribly direct in their dealings, and their effort to make a living is spotty at best. They are also very swayed by status symbols and bling.
- Muslim women have the same attitude problems as western women, but it might not be recognizable to someone who doesn’t know what they are looking at (I am a female who consciously tries to detect female stupidity a.k.a. feminism). Muslim women still have the Grrl Power Sistahood attitude.
- Muslim boys are raised without much contact with grown men before age 12ish. Muslim moms tend to deny the maleness of their kids and treat them like one of the gals. This happened in my own nuclear family as well. They come out wacky.
- There is widespread homosexuality among Muslim males. There have been a few hushed-up news articles about it (one recently on Small Dead Animals). Another good source is the book “Caravan” by James Michener, which was published before the current gay rights zeitgeist.
- Muslim men show a lot of outright contempt for women. Now I know this may not be too far removed from the opinions of some readers – heck I even hate women usually. But there is a fine line between frustration brought on by bad behavior, and just plain hatred. Perhaps that has been expounded upon here before? I dunno, maybe someone else can explain it better. It is like they deny your humanity, like the Chinese saying “women are spilled water” or etc.
- They also use women, in bad ways. Again, some readers may take the same stance. I have a hard time seeing that behavior as alpha/masculine, it is a big turnoff. Kind of like a beta who mooches off his mom.
- Muslim women have the Martyr Mom attitude. I’m sure you all know the guilt trip mother who lets you know how much she does for you.

So there it is, I don’t think Islam is anything but more of the same.

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cygnus niger February 25, 2011 at 21:10

@Rebel
“And when you think about it, in what ways is a family such a good thing?”
For most man, it is not a good thing. Sex is not worth all that hassle. Older men know this: younger men need to be told. For most women, however, it is a necessity given their biology.
The reason “liberated” women are so bitchy is genetic. The only behaviours they have towards men are:
(A) Mothering – treat them like children
(B) wife – obey them
If you don’t believe behaviours are genetic, explain why all labs are the same and all pit bulls are the same, and none are ever like the other breed. It will take generations for women to develop the behaviours necessary for equality; maybe never because they are NOT equal to men.
What’s happening now is that men are starting to treat women as things called bitches and never make any commitments to them.

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DevilDog February 25, 2011 at 21:20

Economic collapse is the only answer.

Guess where America is headed…LOL. Now it’s not even a matter of IF, it’s just a matter of WHEN.

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Cagefighter February 25, 2011 at 22:24

“The unwillingness of feminists to engage in rational cooperation is eventually going to lead men to give up on trying to talk to them as equals and instead unilaterally decide that the party is over and it’s time for feminists to shut up and cook dinner.”

The party is over! Maybe 1% of the female population is rational, if that. Woman are not our equals, and thus should not be treated as such.

Btw this word “equality” has spawned more trouble than any other word in our vocabulary. It’s a liberal lexicon term and thus should be eliminated — it’s a myth that will die with this age.

I’m a bit of a neo-archaic type. Here are MY snips for the future post-feminized West:

1.First. Do NOT think for a moment woman will get their senses together and do what is right. They will have to be lead by men.

2. Woman do not deserve to vote and that was a bad idea from the get go — so no voting rights.

3. When a woman gets married, her husband has a greater deal of power over her, than what’s allowed in today’s liberal interpretation of the union.

4, I swear… some woman want to be smacked and put in place. So open hand smacks, if the bitch is asking for it, is totally acceptable.

5. This civilization needs a thorough house cleaning. I envision a world so utterly masculine and assertive that their will be a time where men in the future will read with disgust and contempt on how Western man was so pathetically weak against attacks by those forces which are striving to wipe out manhood.. They will say: “You believe woman should have the same rights as men? BAHAHAHAHAAA!”

And the primacy of the post-feminist age, I quote Zarathustra:

“Everything about woman is a riddle, and everything about woman has one solution: it is called pregnancy.”

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Rebel February 25, 2011 at 22:50

@KARMA MRA MGTOW

You are making my point far better than I do.

If feminists do not breed, they will disappear. Puff the Magic dragon.

And this is a tool of power that many (or most) men ignore they possess.
We have complete control over female reproduction, CONTRARILY to what most think. We hold the spark of life in our hands (polite form..)

Simple: NO DNA TRANSFER is it.

That’s why I said: don’t give your seeds.
Without them, women become TOTALLY powerless.
If we set our minds to it, collectively, two generations at most and the problem is gone.
I say:”Breed the suckers out”. Period. Don’t have sex with feminists.
Don’t have sex with those who hate you.
Breed the feminists OUT!!

Our grandchildren will then have a working society back.

Isn’t that worth it?

I think it is worth it.

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evilwhitemalempire February 25, 2011 at 22:58

Feminism is not a movement.
Feminism is best thought of as an effect. Like the doppler effect or some other property of nature.
It is what happens when females find themselves in the company of too much soft, easygoing, and unaggressive masculinity. The kind of man that flourishes in civilization. We all know the type. Skinny and effeminate clerical worker types. Pencil pushers. Often working in law, universities, politics, etc. The women who work with these types are triggered into dominance attempts by their weakness displays. It should be no surprise that these are exactly those areas most infested.

The more masculine types (truckers, farmers, construction workers, etc. that actually build civilization) then find themselves on the business end of guns that enforce the laws that these women have created by taking over.

This is the fundamental defect of civilization. That specialization leads to (male) leaders with more brains and less brawn. But that in turn leads to females taking over.

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migu February 26, 2011 at 01:40

Might be wise to listen to Mr. Schmidt.

He pulled it off. How? Ask him.

His plan worked. I don’t like his rules. But his plan for creating what he wants.

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Höllenhund February 26, 2011 at 01:54

I’m getting tired of the hostility towards Islam in the Manosphere. Why is is Islam the enemy exactly? What’s so horrible about Islamic law?

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KARMA MRA MGTOW February 26, 2011 at 03:38

helvetica February 25, 2011 at 18:47

Dude I think it could be most females, I don’t think religion has much to do with it.

My Dad is Hindu, Mum (Mom U.S spelling) was born Christian, I an atheist, I know some atheist women that exhibit these traits also, I think it is genetic, but feminism makes it worse, it adds a sociological layer that tells women this attitude is ok.

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KARMA MRA MGTOW February 26, 2011 at 04:09

Rebel February 25, 2011 at 22:50
@KARMA MRA MGTOW
You are making my point far better than I do.
If feminists do not breed, they will disappear. Puff the Magic dragon.

Hmm time for a song…

Puff the Magic dragon, nope….Feminist the Magic dragon.

feminist, the magic dragon lived by the sea and frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called no fertility, Little jackie mangina loved that rascal
feminist, and brought her strings and dildos and other fancy stuff.

oh feminist, the magic dragon lived by the sea and frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called no fertility, feminist, the magic dragon lived by the sea
and frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called no fertility, confused with her sexuality, it must be all the men and not me….

Together they would travel on a boat with billowed sail, Jackie mangina kept a lookout perched on feminist’s gigantic tail, Noble kings and princes would bow whene’er they came, because the female vote, Pirate ships would lower their flag when feminist roared out her name.

oh!feminist, the magic dragon lived by the sea and frolicked in the gender studies mist in a land called no fertility,feminist, the magic dragon lived by the sea And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called no fertility.

A dragon lives forever but not so little wings and giant rings make way for other toys.One grey night it happened, jackie mangina came no more And feminist that mighty dragon, tax payer funding was pulled she ceased her fearless roar.Her head was bent in sorrow, green scales fell like rain, feminist no longer went to play along the cherry popper lane.

Without her life-long tax sponging friend, feminist could not be brave,So feminist that mighty dragon sadly slipped into his cave. oh!feminist, the magic

dragon lived by the sea and frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called no fertility, feminist, the magic dragon lived by the seaAnd frolicked in the

autumn mist in a land called no fertility.

Original lyrics below….

More lyrics: http://www.lyricsfreak.com/p/peter+paul+mary/#share

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Donn February 26, 2011 at 05:15

“Given the ubiquity of feminist indoctrination in our society, I am mighty curious as to whether these men ever speak with their mothers, sisters, daughters or colleagues, and if they do, whether their behavior does justice to the positions they express with such gusto when safely behind their keyboards. If there is a man among them who has never talked to a feminist-influenced woman twice, he’s got my respect, and as for any who don’t meet the criterion upon which they found it appropriate to base their criticisms, they are cordially invited to give themselves a healthy slap in the face.”

Does blowing my top and detailing the numerous ways men get screwd by feminist double standards in my chinese medicine class a few weeks ago count? A situation which only came up as a result of several classmates saying the stigma of having a child young is much worse for women?

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Donn February 26, 2011 at 05:29

The ability to edit posts sucks

Just to continue further, I’ve started to speak out more and more, especially with people I go to school with even though I’m abroad at the moment, and even with women I talk to I directly confront them when they bring up the injustices men levy upon them, or how they can’t find a “good man”, or all guys or dogs, or any other range of self serving crap that gets spewed. My tendency is to give them just as much venom and vitriol as they dish out, as you can chalk it up to my age(22, younger than a lot of people here I’m sure) or whatever, but I’m of the opinion that the high road doesn’t exist, and that either those for the equal treatment of both men/women with respect to their very real differences, or those who side with feminism will break, it just depends on who it will be.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) February 26, 2011 at 06:10

KARMA MRA MGTOW February 25, 2011 at 16:27
“I think violence against women will go down not up as men avoid women at all costs.”

Karma. I disagree and the evidence is already in. There are two key areas where violence against women is dramatically rising.

1. Assaults by young men AND WOMEN. These are the kids who are the products of the single mother houses. In the UK many police stations are recommending people do not leave their houses on friday/saturday due to the level of violence being committed by street kids.

2. Husbands who realise that it is totaly futile to go to the courts. As cases like mine are propagated through the man-o-sphere and the truth movement and men see that even when a man like me goes for three years calling for his FELLOW MEN to stand up and be counted by holding a CRIMINAL WOMAN to account for her crimes? Men will get the message.

I am on my own. I arrange to have wifey killed by doing a ‘stranger on a train’ with another man or I allow her to ruin my life.

I fully expect to see men get to be smart enough to do ‘stranger on a train’. Who was that guy whos wife was ‘mugged and killed in mexico’ on a ‘holiday’? How many men are going to take wifey on a holiday only to see her tragically ‘mugged and killed’ by a ‘bad man in a bad country’? There was also a suspicious incident of this type in South Africa. I fully expect men to do this sort of thing. They might pay or they might ‘trade problems’. But once men start doing this and OTHER men see them getting away with it? You are going to see a VAST increase in ‘wifey having an accident’. I’ve been warning this will be the logical conclusion to not holding women accountable for their crimes before a court. This is why I am campainging for courts. I don’t want to see these women killed. But if women insist that men are not protected by law, then they can hardly complain when they are ‘equal’ and also not protected by law.

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BeijaFlor February 26, 2011 at 06:53

[quote=Peter-Andrew:Nolan]As cases like mine are propagated through the man-o-sphere and the truth movement and men see that even when a man like me goes for three years calling for his FELLOW MEN to stand up and be counted by holding a CRIMINAL WOMAN to account for her crimes? Men will get the message.

I am on my own. I arrange to have wifey killed by doing a ‘stranger on a train’ with another man or I allow her to ruin my life.

I fully expect to see men get to be smart enough to do ‘stranger on a train’.
[/quote]
This may sound “mangina” of me, but let’s just be clear: You’re [i]warning[/i] of this possibility, [i]not[/i] advocating it, right?

I’m a rank newbie on The Spearhead, and as such my opinion may not be worth squat. I would hate to see this website closed because some officious, official busybody, with a woodpile (not just a chip) on her shapeless potato-sack shoulder, saw this post and told her supervisor, “Aha, they are advocating violence against women!”

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Migu February 26, 2011 at 08:01

I’m getting tired of the hostility towards Islam in the Manosphere. Why is is Islam the enemy exactly? What’s so horrible about Islamic law?

Same exact reason there are still white knights. It is but another red pill. Men are men the world over. The same goes for women.

Same reason people think Republicans and Democrats are two separate unique identities.

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Migu February 26, 2011 at 08:05

I’m getting tired of the hostility towards Islam in the Manosphere. Why is is Islam the enemy exactly? What’s so horrible about Islamic law?

And since I’m thinking.

It is the exact same doctrine that says all men are rapists. If you see it, understand you are dealing with a feminist who has an enemy other than men.

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Migu February 26, 2011 at 08:10

I’m a rank newbie on The Spearhead, and as such my opinion may not be worth squat. I would hate to see this website closed because some officious, official busybody, with a woodpile (not just a chip) on her shapeless potato-sack shoulder, saw this post and told her supervisor, “Aha, they are advocating violence against women!”

It is apparent. Globalman has been around awhile.

He takes his own risks, and by now, with what he has done, I doubt Welmer is in any danger from what he says. He can just direct the Authorities to Ireland and show the record of GM’s previous ban. (Still banned at the Forums)

Also, it isn’t as if Globalman isn’t all but daring each and every authority to come after him. He spits in their faces daily. My guess is he knows how to disappear if the need arises.

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Poester99 February 26, 2011 at 09:24

I’m getting tired of the hostility towards Islam in the Manosphere. Why is is Islam the enemy exactly? What’s so horrible about Islamic law?

Hardly the main point or maybe ever “a” point of the article. DD was advancing the hypothesis, that by retaining it’s mostly partriarchal nature, Islamic culture is in fact stronger than ours, and may organically (with little or any spilled blood) overcome our current western “Martiarchal Gynocracy” because it is weak and ambiguous in it’s own defense.

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Rebel February 26, 2011 at 10:24

‘stranger on a train’

I suppose that this is an English expression I had never heard before.
(I’m learning every day). I have to guess at the meaning.
Let me see:
Here’s the invocation in my mind: to “delete” someone, arrange for this person to “meet” someone carrying critters that damage the immune system. I think this is fair: equality in malice.

I am not inventing anything here, it has been done. I know.
And Macchiavel was born before me…
A good friend of mine that one.

Where there is no justice, out of necessity you make your own.

But I agree: can’t say it all on a forum.

Use P.C. instead. The weapon is reversible: works both ways.

So does disinformation by the way. A very powerful weapon.
One we should use massively.

For instance, I never post on feminist sites. If I did, I would lie through and through, saying there is no problem. That reassures the enemy and makes them lower their guard.
War is the art of deception.
(Sun Tzu is another friend of mine).
Be crafty as a fox, white as a dove.

Appear to be what you are not. It will always give you the edge.
Women are cunning. So must we be.

Doubly so.

So they never know where the shots come from.

Sniper galore…

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Epoche* February 26, 2011 at 11:12

Also, it isn’t as if Globalman isn’t all but daring each and every authority to come after him. He spits in their faces daily. My guess is he knows how to disappear if the need arises.
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I doubt anyone is after Globalman. If a feminist or a MRA went on a shooting rampage nothing would change all that substantially although I personally wouldnt lose a minutes sleep either way. Even if they shut down this particular website, another would arise. National security interests are not searching this website going over the comments section and debating the nuances of what I am writing here. The welfare state is an unsustainable model, many are aware of this and some change may happen but human nature being what it is I doubt it. The muslims will outbreed the europeans thus rendering feminism moot, and men will lose interest in protecting a society where men have no place except as sperm donors and especially taxpayers. I take all of this as a given, I just am trying to figure out a way for life to be a little bit more pleasant in the meantime because for all I know this is as good as it gets.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) February 26, 2011 at 13:35

Rebel February 26, 2011 at 10:24
‘stranger on a train’

Rebel. This is a reference to a movie. Link below. Two men meet on a train. They start talking. They find they both want to get rid of their wives. The men have never met before and don’t know each other. So they swap the details of wives and they each kill each others wife. Not sure if they end up getting caught or getting away with it. Can’t remember. I saw it a LONG time ago.

But my point stands. I believe that if men are NOT given a path to justice which is WHAT I AM ADVOCATING we will see such ‘stranger on a train’ situations happen. In my case no less than FOUR men offered for my wife to ‘meet an accident’. One of them for EXPENSES ONLY. None of the 4 were known to her. I forbid each one causing he any harm and told them that if they did they would have me to answer to. Meaning….even though my ex was being a complete bitch I protected her. Gee. What an arsehole I am.

Of course, women and their mangina lackeys try and tell the lies I am advocating violence against women. The very OPPOSITE of what I am foing. At the SAME TIME they totally FAIL to note WOMEN COMMIT VIOLENCE BY PROXY ALL THE F***ING TIME. Nope. No-one wants to talk about the murder by cop or beatings by cop women provoke. No-one wants to talk about how women tell lies and manipulate stupid white knights into ‘fighting and defending’ their non-existent honour. WW are liars and hypocrites.

Take the Australian Freeman site. The reason the site was taken down was my ex brother in law (Michael Toal) threatened the admins. Since my ex brother in law had somehow found out where the admins lived and worked he took the site down. Last thing he needs is a psychotic ‘upset’ at him. He has a small child. And Michael Toal is psychotic and mentally unstable. He also happens to be a marksman. It was initially thought, by me and others, that the feds must have intervened and asked Ning to take the site down so the Irish Freeman site suspended my ning account until such time as the real course of events could be determined. When my account was unsuspended I deleted all my posts from the Irish free man site as it was clear there were not enough men there to make any difference in the re-introduction of the rule of law to Ireland. Ever since the Phsychotic Michael Toal has been trying to tell people that the feds forced the admins to take the site down because of my ‘hate speech’. Just more lies. Women and their mangina lackeys like Michael Toal just tell lies all the time.

@Migu.
As for ‘spitting in the face’ of the alleged ‘Authorities’. Nope. It’s not like that. I have written very polite letters to Angela Merkel, Gordon Brown, David Cameron, Ban Ki-Moon, Kevin Rudd, Julia Gillard, Eric Schmidt just to name a few. I’ve asked them to please present their evidence they can do what they are doing under oath on an affidavit. Funnily enough? These ‘authorities’ have been completely unable to respond to me. With the VAST resourses of their guvments at hand? They can’t rebut an affidavit. And in law?

“An unrebutted affidavit stands as truth”

How about that? They are RELYING on their robots to enforce policies via lies. So I’m actually asking MEN (I know..there aren’t any here much) to help me WAKE UP THE ROBOTS to the LIES. If we get to the robots and tell them. “Hey, your so called leaders can not rebut this statement, they are LIARS JUST LIKE HITLER. DO NOT DO AS THEY TELL YOU. THINK FOR YOURSELF”

Of course. We have seen here how well men think for themselves. Not at all.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0044079/

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) February 26, 2011 at 13:51

Epoche* February 26, 2011 at 11:12
“I doubt anyone is after Globalman.”

Nope. THEY aren’t ‘after’ me since THEY already know where I live. I have commented on the Illuminati tracking me down and offering me a job before. The OZ/UK/German guvment know where I am. I am travelling on my OZ passport. THEY are relying on the stupidity and ignorance of men. A good bet. As evidenced by the stupidity of such a large percentage of men here. And you guys are the smartest there is! LOL!

“If a feminist or a MRA went on a shooting rampage nothing would change all that substantially”

Correct. Nothing changed with Marc Lepin or George Sodini. What I believe will happen is that as more and more men realise that divorce is GUARNTEED destruction they will quietly go about killing wifey. No ‘shooting rampage’. Just ‘stranger on a train’. There was a case in South Africa recently where ‘wifey ran away’. Well? She was discovered in the freezer 3 years later when the guy was tapped for killing his live in gf. The news report I read contained a quote from the dead wifes father “why did he have to kill her, if he didn’t want to be married why not just divorce”

Um..because his life would be ruined?

In the UK we are seeing cases like the case where a man beat his ex to death with a hammer for her persecution of him. I think beating a woman to death with a hammer might be classed as ‘violent’. They put him away for a long time. The kid goes to the paeophiles in ‘child protection’ which is anything but.

We are seeing more and more cases of the men simply killing the wife, and sometimes the children as well, as soon as the divorce papers are served. THAT is what I am referring to. You can see it if you look. I am not ADVOCATING it any more than I would be advocating murder by talking about the british and US guvments killing babies in Iraq which they are doing. I am advocating AVOIDING the rapid increase in such murders by giving men the protection of law. WOMEN are refusing to give men the protection of law, and not a few men are refusing too. Well? The inevitable result is dead women. That I am PREDICTING it does not mean I am PROMOTING IT. But it IS going to happen. Men are pissed off. Rightly so.

Indeed. ALL those of YOU who are NOT joining me in advocating common law courts and giving men a path to justice are culpable and complicit in the rapidly increasing numbers of murders of wives. I am one of the FEW who is actually standing up and making a proposal to STOP said murders. And I am then the one accused of PROMOTING said murders. Very Orwellian!

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) February 26, 2011 at 14:05

Migu February 26, 2011 at 08:10
“My guess is he knows how to disappear if the need arises.”

Migu. I’m not leaving. They are NOT going to lock me up.

THEIR problem is I took out a ‘life insurance policy’. I am the safest son-of-a-bitch in the MRA world because THEY don’t know who’s names are on my ‘life insurance policy’. ;-)

Indeed. I have said many times. I am MORE worried THEY will kill my ex and the magistrates/judge involved before I can put them on trial. My ex and the judge/magistrate are worth more to US men ALIVE and PROSECUTED. If they die then my cases go away. Looking at the bigger picture? Those four people should be VERY worried the Illuminati will kill them.

That is one reason why I don’t want to be anywhere NEAR these people. So I can not be framed. We all know the guvment is not above framing people for THEIR murders.

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KARMA MRA MGTOW February 26, 2011 at 15:25

Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) February 26, 2011 at 06:10

I see, I was only thinking of men on women violence…..dah! ;)

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RaggedTrouseredPhilanthropist February 26, 2011 at 18:10

What is with this educating women business? Why exactly? What you portray here isn’t men’s rights, its just another form of pseudo-white knighting albeit given a different backdrop. This time you’ll be able to talk them into doing what you want?

Just my opinion, but the men’s movement should be primarily ‘about’ men. The best things that have come out of it so far certainly are. When more men live lives the way they want, lives that are happier and more fulfilling, that is the aim. What women or don’t do about this is their problem to worry about.

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KARMA MRA MGTOW February 26, 2011 at 19:05

RaggedTrouseredPhilanthropist
@ February 26, 2011 at 18:10

Correct, only this approach will keep the movement pure and uncorrupted.

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oddsock February 26, 2011 at 19:19

@RaggedTrouseredPhilanthropist

I agree. This is what the MRA/MGTOW websites are all about.

Giving men choices/ideas/options they never had.

P.s. OT.
Read the book a long time ago. Heavy going but very interesting. I once heard it described as the socialists bible.

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aharon February 26, 2011 at 20:25

THEIR problem is I took out a ‘life insurance policy’. I am the safest son-of-a-bitch in the MRA world because THEY don’t know who’s names are on my ‘life insurance policy’.

What if the illuminati, that you are concerned about, secretly own the life insurance company you are insured with?

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Peter February 26, 2011 at 21:56

Peter-Andrew Nolan@

Consider, for example, my world passport. If men here would help me get my world passport working then any man in the US who is being robbed blind can get a world passport and LEAVE his prison.

There already is a world passport available from the World Service Authority that is recognized in numerous countries. It has been around for years. I would suggest this as the better bet.

http://www.worldservice.org/docpapp.html

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PeterTheGreat February 26, 2011 at 22:01

Sorry Peter, didn’t notice the Name field had reverted to Peter instead of PeterTheGreat.

Peter-Andrew Nolan@

Consider, for example, my world passport. If men here would help me get my world passport working then any man in the US who is being robbed blind can get a world passport and LEAVE his prison.

There already is a world passport available from the World Service Authority that is recognized in numerous countries. It has been around for years. I would suggest this as the better bet.
http://www.worldgovernment.org/docpass.html

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migu February 27, 2011 at 04:30

Well that was my point GM.you’ve done what you’ve done and live free. My dad did that for me. He didn’t use common law though. And while he was fighting TPTB They came after me.

Course I’m telling that story at your website. If you can manage to get those court cases unsealed that would be great.

I get stonewalled and since a sitting justice is involved there ain’t a lawyer that will help me.

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Gunn February 27, 2011 at 05:20

If you are willing to tell your mother and your daughter to pack up the delusions they picked up in college and leave your life forever, I have no issue with that, but I doubt men who would do this are many even in these circles. If instead you stay quiet and let them broadcast their delusions unopposed and unanimously reinforce each others’ superiority complexes, you are behaving like less than a man and should feel bad. If you are like most of the audience here – just a guy, just disappointed, not ready to wreck your life even for a good cause and yet not content with standing idly by doing nothing while injustice is rife all around you – for you, there is The High Road.

A couple of points on this, as my earlier comments were probably not as clear as they could have been.

One can (and should) engage with one’s close female friends and relatives without ultimatums. I.e. to patiently explain the situation in terms and concepts meaningful to them. How much you can achieve in doing this is invariably linked to the closeness of your relationship; as much as you may want to believe differently, people don’t just change their basic views on life, but instead they learn to tolerate those of their intimate family and friends (i.e. they value the person more than the conflict caused by the opposing views).

In a similar fashion, I will put up far more with opinions counter to those which I believe are right if they are held by those whom I love. This is particularly true for close family.

The idea that you send your mother or your sister or your daughter packing because they have a core belief in feminism runs counter to human nature. Sure, if a man is pushed far enough even those family bonds will dissolve over time, but if you think its a matter of principle to do so at the drop of a hat, I have to tell you this: it will strip you of your humanity, fast, and leave you no better than those whom you believe to be inhuman (e.g. feminist leaders).

Further afield, one should always pick one’s battles carefully. Read The Art of War, or The Prince, or similar works – they are good summaries of how to engage with others, whether in politics, on the battlefield, or in any other arena where conflicting desires meet and are resolved. Weigh up the benefits of your comments against the cost of them to you. Sure its great to demolish a feminist co-worker’s arguments, but ultimately you won’t change their minds and you put yourself at risk. Often you can communicate similar messages, but under the radar – I have often done that in the past, and continue to do so even now, but I’m mindful of the potential harm of misplaced words.

To strike where your efforts mean nothing, even if in principle you are right, or to enjoy some carthesis that ‘at least you tried’, is wasteful and should be scorned for what it is – the action of a man who is not looking to bend reality to his will, but rather to appease his guilty subconscious that at least he tried even whilst he submits to the current of his environment.

Be effective, and strike where you can achieve a difference. Recognise where you will not make a difference, and walk away in those cases. Live true to your own beliefs, i.e. don’t allow others to bend you to their views where they differ to yours, but don’t lose sleep that you couldn’t change their minds. Only they can change their minds, and sometimes (oftentimes) they have no interest in doing so, regardless of the invincibility of your arguments.

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Gunn February 27, 2011 at 05:23

*carthesis = cartharsis in my post above

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migu February 27, 2011 at 04:30
“I get stonewalled and since a sitting justice is involved there ain’t a lawyer that will help me.”

Lawyers will only help themselves. If you have case materials you want published? All you have to do is find someone who will admin the portal in your country and I will publish them under a common law claim of right.

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Migu February 27, 2011 at 07:26

Lawyers will only help themselves. If you have case materials you want published? All you have to do is find someone who will admin the portal in your country and I will publish them under a common law claim of right.

I’ll see what else I can do. I’ve been denied access on the grounds I am not an original litigant, and I don’t have a court order to unseal the case.

I could bring my dad in again, but this is suppose to be a surprise for him. He almost lost his mind fighting these guys so many years ago. I’d like to hand him the coup de grace on a silver platter. (he did win, but it was Pyrrhic aside from the fact LE won’t fuck with any one by my surname in that town)

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RedPill February 27, 2011 at 15:09

People do what works for them, not what should be done.

Feminism is an idea and ideas never die, just cease to be profitable. Feminism has always been there, it just got enabled the last few decades because of prosperity and technology.

The most hardcore of feminist can change back to the most submissive man-pleaser the instant it becomes more profitable ( in situations like natural calamity, famine, riots, civil war etc) and back again when the danger is gone.

There’s no need to talk sense to anyone, let them be. Let nature do its thing. Being a feminist is its own worse punishment.

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fmz February 27, 2011 at 17:48

l dont want their help, nor their patronage in exchange for the services of provision and protection. Not interested in being a body guard or gate keeper, indentured toiler. Not interested in psych driven romantic exchanges and bonds.

lm interested in them shovelling their own grave. Engaging them on mutually agreeable terms, free of coercion and free of babbling bullsiat about how l’ve got some advantage and its not fair to them. Next.

l’ll trade some eggs for some spuds. Will help them fashion a splint and maybe bring them some chicken broth. And teach them how to do it too. l dont expect them to help my though when lm sick or injured. If they actually do, what l expect from them is a bill. l expect them to play all those femmy games of withholding what l value until they get a triple dose of what they value.

Frankly l dont expect, nor anticipate any assistance, mutual engagement and certainly not a drop of goodwill from them. All that ephemeral shit is currency to them and as far as they’re it has equal value in exchange as the material stuff. Yeah right. l’ll go and star gaze my head into that stuff myself. That stuff cant be given anyway. Each makes it up for themselves.

What l do expect from them is projected expectations of what they want and how we owe it to them. What l do anticipate is that the will keep parlaying the femmy nonsense to nowhere. Like the forrest fire analogy, they’l burn themselves out. My focus now is to clear the scrub around myself and put in a fire break. With back up plan to head off. Maybe even skip out altogether and let them and it burn.

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DevilDog February 27, 2011 at 20:08

Hey, feminists advocated Women killing/maiming Men in the marital arena, they celebrated and laughed. Kill em all! I am Woman, hear me roar!

But we Men do not advocate such measures.

That already tells you who the fairer sex really is.

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Ramses February 27, 2011 at 21:46

I’ve heard from women in the family (who HATE “modern” women) that the best thing a man can do to confuse/irritate/drive them over the edge is simply to IGNORE them – as in just walking out/hanging up the phone/laughing in their face AND walking-off – the idea being that they will parasitically feed off ANY energy a man puts forward- whether positive (Hi Honey- you look great today!) or negative (Go F*ck Yourself!). IGNORE is the key word my relatives – including MOM – brought up.

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fmz February 28, 2011 at 15:16

Appleblossom,
you might clarify the contradictions that inform your faulty premises instead of advocating violence.

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fmz February 28, 2011 at 19:37

apple,
again, their is no contradiction. Check your premise. Try not to alter that premise on the way thru, as you just did, from apples to oranges.

But… first, turn off the projection/transference function.

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20thLevel March 2, 2011 at 08:48

The strategy that myself and a few of my best friends emmploy is TGYOW but with a slight twist. You see we don’t ignore women we embrace them, because to deny yourself the company of an attractive woman is to deny oneself one of the great pleasures in life. The pursuit of women is THE strongest motivator for personal success a man can have. You just have to know how to harness that drive and channel it into your own personal gain. A nicer car a nicer home and a bigger bank account ALWAYS = more women with all other considerations being equal and as a side effect you will be more financially secure and live more comfortably as well.

The main key is to NEVER NEVER EVER EVER let a woman come between your money and property. Never put her on the lease , the deed, the checking account or let them effect your career. But lastly and most impotantly for the love of god and all things holy NEVER MARRY ONE OF THEM.

Concentrate on improving yourself. Conentrate on improving your physical health and financial and mental health. With that comes a certain inner satisfaction and confidence. With these things in hand (or even just the pursuit of these things wining and dining will not even be necessary unless YOU choose to have a nice steak and a bottle of merlot because they will literally triping over themselves to get at you and what you have. (Both materially and mentally). Your biggest challenge will to stay vigiliant and not fall for that DREAM GIRL and abandon the “The Program” as we like to call it. Remember they are TRAINED FROM BIRTH to break your will in this matter and that is their greatest advantage over us. Never forget that fact or you will lose because what they bring to the fight is more powerful than any regular guy can stand if he is unprepared.

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LadyGodiva March 2, 2011 at 15:31

That is strange 20th Level-why does he have to go do all those great things for himself for the mere goal of obtaining a woman?

Why not do them because they are great and then if it turns out it attracts a mate, super, if not, at least his life is full of happy stuff that is not dependent on a woman.

Lacking a relationship or regular sex is not the end of the world after all.

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Kevin March 26, 2011 at 18:13

Step One: Never marry. Marriage must absolutely be completely redrafted, or die. No marriage = no divorce, no alimony, and less child support.

Step Two (and this will be difficult): Vote for the least fem-friendly candidates. Purge gov’t of whit knights, manginas and fembots. The fewer with the power of the pen, the fewer misandric laws.

Step Three: Purge your social circles of all people, men and women, who kowtow to feminism. Make them pariahs. Treat them as persona non grata. Make all people who tolerate misandry/feminism regret their ideals.

Good luck. Personally, I don’t believe feminism will die in 100 years. It has been coddled for too long, and too many men have been raised/educated by women to believe that they are capable of such evil.

We need an economic collapse and a departure from the “knowledge economy.” We need more jobs women hate. And we need to start firing women who suck at work. Plenty of those!

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I hate you guys now June 10, 2011 at 12:11

Wow. You guys really do hate women. Whatsa matter? Can’t get laid? I do agree marriage should be abolished. It only serves men after all. It exists to provide men with domestic labor and pussy. You all can procreate on your own. Try that why dontcha?

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I hate you guys now June 10, 2011 at 12:17

Also-there is so much dangerous hate speech in the comments section here. You all talk about killing women? Listen to yourselves. You all think feminists hate men, but all feminists want is equality for all and an end to rigid gender roles. There are plenty of men who would love to be stay at home dads. Don’t you see that possibility as a good thing? You are all demonstrating how much men hate women. Feminists don’t go around talking about killing men. But there’s plenty of justification for killing women right here in these comments. Scarey. I’m gonna go buy a gun now. thanks for the eye opener about how much men really hate women. Seriously, any woman reading this-arm yourselves with weapons.

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Noel June 10, 2011 at 20:20

Thank you for inspiring me to learn how to rip balls off with two fingers, recommit to fighting for my freedom and the freedom of all women, and for proving the hundred thousandth time in an hour what worthless bags of rancid dogshit 99% of men are.

*Raises a glass to every woman on the planet who would rather die on her feet than live on her knees*

Don’t let the door smash your head in on the way out, filth.

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Anonymous June 13, 2011 at 19:39

Sorry, we’ve been chemically neutered.

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Francine August 28, 2011 at 17:37

Replace the words women, woman, and feminists with blacks and slaves. There will and always have been pigs like you around, I just hope the majority of the population can grow and not reduce to this kind of puffed up ideology.

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Joe America January 28, 2012 at 09:52

100% agreed, men realizing they have many very good options and do not have to accept an abusive lifestyle. As long as the internet remains free and open, the free flow of positive ideas, ideas which feminist really hate, men – especially young men everywhere will be able to know they have positive lifestyle choices available to them if they choose.

Anglo-American Men: The New Mercenaries http://kshatriya-anglobitch.blogspot.com/2012/01/anglo-american-men-new-mercenaries.html
As far as native born American guys leaving and going there own way it is happening but on what scale? maybe a percent or two? The guys who leave are more motivated than most.
The current feminist society strongly discourage any male involvement, guys just wont care, which is happening on scale.

The actual effect of violence, guys snapping, is essentially zero. Your in the getting in to the hit by lighting odds, its in the millions to one odds. Still the media blows this kind of thing drastically out of proportion. Crazy laws get passed on these freak events to restrict freedom and prosperity.
The real actual violence happening is in poor neighborhoods which will continue to grow, every day many guys are killed but will not even get noticed.

I don’t think this will help, Educating Women, that is have any impact on scale. Disillusioned men, huge! Fewer and fewer are willing to marry cutting off the alimony gravy train. Lawyers make a lot of money off divorce. They are pushing common law marriage as a way to keep there business going. If this were to happen men would be strongly encouraged to keep relations with women short.

Feminist demonize men and marriage, lawyers bankrupt men for making any commitment to women, how do these incentives run?
‘Freakonomics’ Exclusive Clip: “Incentives Matter
video.app.msn.com/watch/video/freakonomics-exclusive-clip-incentives-matter/5534h60

There is anther strong force at work which is changing things, demographics. Any group that adopts feminism has very low birthrates, far below replacement levels. So what is happening is they are being replaced by foreign immigrants In American it is Latin and it’s already happened in the Southwest US.
Another half of this is women who are prone to adopt feminism have few children and have them much later in life if at all. Even in feminazi Sweden and all the free state handouts it is the same. There birthrate is propped up by immigrants from Islamic countries
As time goes by toxic man hating feminism will be forgotten.

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AntiFeminist March 7, 2012 at 03:55

We can safely say that “Reductio ad Hitlerum” has been successfully replaced by “Reductio ad Islam”. The stupidity that comes from these articles obsessed with an “Islam takeover” is just amusing.

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Samir April 17, 2012 at 20:45

hey mr antifeminst you have no idea what you are talking about. I lived in Paris for years and islam IS taking over. I have been a muslim for years and finally left because I dont want to have sharia dominate the world. its clowns like you mr antifeminist that will help islam grow stronger by denying what islam wants to do. you are a fool.

Islam is submission to allah and guess what they want you to do.

the author of the article is right to assume an islam ready to takeover but you are too ignorant to see it.

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Carlos April 18, 2012 at 11:02

Now is the time to ask this question,which nobody seems to ask.

Who invented the modern feminist/suffragist lie that women are “oppressed”?

Why didn’t women had the courage to ask this question before 1850′s if they really felt they were oppressed?

Who misguided them into this lie that they were an opressed class just like “slaves” at that time(around 1850′s)?

Why did Abraham Lincoln ,the US president killed a few days after he said that catholic Jesuits were behind the spreading of this lie that women were opressed like slaves?

So what role has Jesuits/freemasons in spreading this lie,since this lie first sprang up only in protestant christian nations were freemasons were active and their Jesuit masters only aim was to destroy christianity by anymeans which is so even today?

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Carlos April 18, 2012 at 19:21

sameer…isn’t it enough that we assume islam will takeover world out of lack of unity in western world owing to feminist religious hypocrisy or should we now imagine/fantazize that your sissy religion is taking our the “world”.You speak exactly like a feminist bitch trying to put his/her ideas down the throat of others without a hint of logic/reason…PATHETIC…ISLAM WILL ALSO BE EXTINCT SOON ALONG WITH FEMINISM…WORLD SAW YOUR ALLIANCE WHEN YOU “SUCKED” FEMINIST NORWEGIAN “PUSSYS” AFTER OSLO BOMBING.

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Carlos April 19, 2012 at 03:04

sameer…if you left islam then it’s certainly for your good,since islam is another hypocrisy like feminism.Your words that we should “see” islam takingover is unclear at the least.Reductio ad hitlerum,means obvious fallacy of nazism equated with other undesirable things,like in dark ages when the word “jew” was used as a curse.
Islamic sharia law is an over rated and a self suicidal version of the original realistic christian sharia of Jesus Christ revealed in NT Bible.So your resentment towards the islam is commendable,intelligent and courageous move.The original christian sharia revealed in pauline letters of New Testament asks women to submit to their husbands as the church submit to Jesus.Women are not allowed to teach or have authority over men,they most were modest clothing and should cover their head to show their submission to men who are their “head” while doing public worship-prayer/ministry.

Where in the modern western world are these christian values for a successful society upheld?

Feminists have destroyed and degenerated the plan of God for the peace and prosperity of humanity(Isiah 3:12).That is exactly why feminism & the societies that embrace it will be extinct soon.The over correction of an error,in this case-feminism by islamic sharia will always end up in the undoing of the correction itself.If the realistic christian sharia of new testament is implemented all over the world,we shall see peace and prosperity in place of chaos,destruction and recession brought about by feminism.

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I have sensitive nipple May 15, 2012 at 13:01

How dare you condone violence against womynz! rabble rabble rabble! Lol. In all honesty killing feminism off could really be going alot better I mean their words and actions are bordering on terrorism. If action doesn’t take place soon these women will be gunning anyone they see down like those swedish whores.

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Albert June 24, 2012 at 20:43

I’m curious exactly how marriage ‘serves’ men? I suppose men are the ones who receive alimony and child support. I suppose wives are the ones who give up the house, the car, and the bank account in a divorce. I suppose fathers are granted custody automatically. And a man doesn’t have to be married to obtain ‘domestic labor and pussy’. They are available outside the legal bonds of marriage, often on much better terms. So you don’t know what you’re talking about.

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Betheman July 11, 2012 at 14:11

I realise that I’ve come in pretty late in the debate/discussion, but I must say there seems to be a lot of woman-hating going on here. I view feminism as a bondage to both women and men and therefore feminism, rather than females are our enemy. Some people seem to have stereotyped all women as raving lunatic feminists when clearly they aren’t. I know many women who rue the day that feminism got a foothold for many reasons, from personal reasons (such as can’t find a real man who will lead their marriage that they feel comfortable to submit to etc.) to philosophical reasons (just believe that it is a man’s place to be in charge). My wife for instance, hates feminism and clearly sees it’s destructive path in the lives of people everywhere, both men and women. I think the perhaps some of you should try to overcome the very obvious hurt from the the tyranical abuses that you have suffered as a result of feminism and once again see that women are in need of rescuing from the clutches of feminism (they sometimes don’t see it though). We are St. George and feminism is the dragon that we need to slay in order to set women free. It has been well established through myriads of research that well over sixty percent of working women with families would like to stay home with their kids, but can’t owing to financial reasons. I have spoken to women who have cried as they have told me of their pain as they wave goodbye to their little children at daycare and drive away to be abused by employers or customers all day, when they would much rather stay at home looking after their children and being a great wife to their husbands. We cannot blame these poor women for feminism. We must put the blame exactly where it lies; -at the feet of feminism. Men of old allowed feminism to happen for many and varied reasons and it must be up to men today to stop it in order to rescue society, both women and ourselves. I understand that a wounded animal will even attack its rescuer, and, it seems like some of you are doing something similar. It’s easy to attack women for the pain of feminism; -attacking feminism is harder, as the results are instant and the relief is felt immediately. There are three issues with this as I see it:
Firstly, it will probably not work.
Secondly, if it does work, once the anger of men subsides we will realise our error and wish we has gone another way.
Thirdly it is just not manly and we are not being true to ourselves; -and this will eventually manifest itself in adding to our anger and we might even comtinue to blame women, even for this.

I think this article clearly spells out the way forward; -man up, challenge feminist ideology with our best weapon (logic) and do this respectfully.

Women want to be rescued; -they feel it, but sadly, most of them don’t know that it feminism that they need to be rescued from.

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Sarah November 3, 2012 at 12:54

It is very difficult being a woman in 2012. We are all expected to be financially independent, which takes up our most fertile years or keeps us from caring for our families adequately and we are literally penalised for being Mothers or wanting security or protection from men. Feminism has done nothing positive for society. I despise it and would be ultimately relieved to see it disappear. I don’t support feminism and don’t want to be a part of such a soul destroying movement, yet it feels as though it is forced upon me. I am expected to provide for my family just as much as my Husband and because of equal pay legislations men are no longer paid enough on their own to support a family unless their job is of an extremely high status. I come from a British working class background and the effect that feminism has had on families is depressing. Because middle class women are all out doing their careers brainwashed by propaganda we are pushed into dead-end jobs away from our children and homes that need looking after or onto welfare which we are shamed for. We can’t do anything right. Sadly if I mention this all to many other women they look at me venomously and I am either pushed into a hot debate or met by silence. I just wish that more women would see that feminism is leading to our demise. I also feel that men need to stand up and take back leadership over women.

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Jonathan April 28, 2013 at 19:23

I’m sick I’ve hearing woman are in charge. When this is an impossibility. What most guys need to understand is that Men and Woman are not made equal. And the way Woman think is completely different to men. Woman have an innate need to attach themselves to some higher power better than themselves.

Previously this use to be their husbands, but as men behaved badly (and we did) they decided to submit themselves to other “authorities”.

ie Big Husband Government = Obama in the case of the US
Powerful corporations that seduce them with irrational advertising

How many ideologies do woman put their COMPLETE trust in, and don’t question at all?

Woman are always looking for the best Authority to submit to, and will always need an authority to submit to!

NOW HERES A BIG ONE: This is also why woman’s votes are not votes for woman. Woman will always be swayed by the other “authorities” that will attempt to persuade them that they are the better authority. Feminism is an authority constructed by communists, consumerism is an authority constructed by greedy men.

This is where MRAs have it all wrong. Instead of fighting Woman, we should be fighting these “Authorities”.

How do you fight consumerism? By not being greedy and supporting small business.

How do you fight feminism? By giving Woman a choice: making yourself a better “Authority”. Being a better man! (and feminists cannot define what a good man is! THIS IS THE BIGGEST DECEPTION)

Who is the most powerful authority? God = Jesus
(I’m not talking about the dummed down gay version of Jesus that people today want to portray him to be).

Jesus stood against everybody – the roman empire, the intellectuals of his day, every powerful authority and defeated them.

That is the definition of Masculinity = Jesus

To be a powerful force we need to follow in Jesus Footsteps! That means asking for Gods help.

SO this war is NOT BETWEEN man and woman, this is between principalities and powers (OTHER MEN) as it always has been!

p.s. If God made me a Man (which he certainly did!), he also gave me a higher authority than all woman. And that can never be destroyed, only our minds can be convinced it doesn’t exist, and all woman know this!

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Joe June 18, 2013 at 21:13

Feminism is clearly shunned by younger women. All the feminist laws are still here. Operationally laws are often used in ways completely different from the original intention. Like helmet laws for bicycles. Intention to keep kids from cracking the skulls when they fall off a bike. Operationally, its unenforceable, it is never used in that way, instead it is used as an excuse to harass gang bangers. Lots of laws are like this, many are so poorly written they are impossible to use.

How will feminism be viewed in the far future? You can compare it to witchcraft, hundreds of years ago this was a very serious accusation, maybe roughly equivalent in seriousness to that of a child serial rapist/murder. Witches could and at times face the death penalty, often a very brutal death. Now kids dress up as witches and go house to house collecting candy. Who could have guessed that 500 years ago?
My point – over time attitudes and laws can change.

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Baebae October 11, 2013 at 23:21

Feminism has done exactly what it was created to do when the CIA introduced it decades ago, along with drug culture and the hippie movement. It has weakened the foundation of a strong America by destroying the family unit. Women were brainwashed into believing they were oppressed by men which is absolute nonsense. Ridiculous lies about lower pay, women not having voting rights and, of course lets not forget that huge vague phantom “patriarchy.” It is astounding that so many women accepted this shit as truth, never questioning it. Over the years the hatred, disrespect and degradation of men and boys has grown to epidemic proportions. Now, fifty years on the men are finally starting to refuse to be the quiet complacent slaves and doormats for women that they are groomed to be from birth. Men are full of rage and they are rebelling. Male fury will only increase. We will then have a completely weakened, crippled, hate fuelled, fragmented society ready for collapse and communist take over by the third world order. Exactly what the CIA and their recruited agitator Ms. Gloria Steinem, who now, thanks to the internet has been revealed for what she really is, a CIA agent, wanted all along.

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mmagay January 11, 2014 at 06:37

Macho gay guy here. The answer is in your hands. Stop banging them, so they can’t poke holes in condoms and make you responsible for little bratleigh for the next eighteen years. Stop taking them out to dinner and buying them stupid jewelry. Never marry one. If you must prong one, instead of a real doll (hey! No listening to stupid conversations about fashion and no annoying screams when they fake orgasm), at least pay a prostitute. Cheaper in the long run. Or just jerk off…why would you want to be around an annoying female at all?

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