Nir Rosen, journalist and NYU fellow, tweeted some thoughts on the orgy of sympathy Lara Logan received for placing herself smack dab in the middle of a mob of revolutionary Arab men. Rosen’s skepticism about how much sympathy she deserved came from an angle I hadn’t initially considered when I questioned CBS’s and Ms. Logan’s judgment in aggressively inserting herself in the middle of a volatile situation.
It turns out that Logan was kind of a war junkie, and has long made herself a fixture in Iraq and Afghanistan, where she’d cruise around on base in skimpy clothing aggressively displaying her assets to troops, even prompting one American soldier to say “I feel sorry for your husband.” In fact, Logan liked the boys on base so much that despite being married herself, she got pregnant by a married contractor in Baghdad while simultaneously carrying on with another man, prompting an embarrassing altercation. She was often “embedded,” which is a practice in which journalists are put in controlled situations with troops that are mutually beneficial to both military PR and major news networks. Logan, for her part, added an entirely novel nuance to the term. Perhaps being accustomed to being surrounded by a phalanx of heavily armed American and British troops gave her the false sense of security that led to her unfortunate decision to waltz into the middle of a mob in Cairo.
Rosen, evidently thinking “what goes around comes around” pointed to her role as a cheerleader for wars in Muslim lands, which should further raise eyebrows about her up close and personal coverage of a revolution in a Muslim country. When you add everything up, it certainly looks as though Logan was tempting fate. Wouldn’t surprise me if someone in the mob actually knew who she was (word gets around fast on the street), which could go a considerable way toward explaining the assault. Actually, it’s looking more and more like she was deliberately singled out and attacked for political reasons.
Unfortunately for Rosen, he made the mistake of violating a PC taboo, and was promptly sacrificed to the goddess:
From Karen J. Greenberg, Executive Director, Center on Law and Security
Nir Rosen is always provocative, but he crossed the line yesterday with his comments about Lara Logan. I am deeply distressed by what he wrote about Ms. Logan and strongly denounce his comments. They were cruel and insensitive and completely unacceptable. Mr. Rosen tells me that he misunderstood the severity of the attack on her in Cairo. He has apologized, withdrawn his remarks, and submitted his resignation as a fellow, which I have accepted. However, this in no way compensates for the harm his comments have inflicted. We are all horrified by what happened to Ms. Logan, and our thoughts are with her during this difficult time.
Rosen is a straight-up liberal with politics that are probably considerably to the left of most of our readers, but even that couldn’t save him when he triggered the feminist/white knight alliance we are all so familiar with.
You’d think that if the feminists and social conservatives really cared about Lara Logan’s safety and sexual integrity, they’d be ignoring Nir Rosen and calling for the head of the CBS executive stupid enough to allow her to cover the revolution. Whoever made that choice even went to far as to send her back after she’d already been detained and deported, probably to prevent just such an incident.
But no, one man who made an “insensitive” remark takes the fall, while those who actually bear a considerable part of the responsibility for the incident remain blameless. We can only take this as evidence that they don’t really care about what effect their decisions and policies have in the real world. Whether it means destroying families and handicapping children by forcing fathers out of their lives or putting women in situations where they will be hurt, what comes first is the ideology that undergirds a system that keeps them in power and in the money.
If they keep this up, eventually there will be so many victims that they too may see themselves thrown out just like Egypt’s old guard.
Update: Nir Rosen is now groveling like a whipped dog before his masters. It is embarrassing to see this, but instructive nonetheless:
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And here is his Meha Culpa:
“With 480 characters I undid a long career defending the weak and victims of injustice. There is no excuse for what I wrote. At the time, I did not know that the attack against Lara Logan was so severe, or included apparent sexual violence. Even so, any violence against anyone is wrong. I’ve apologized, lost my job, and humiliated myself and my family. But I, at least, don’t want to go down looking like a sexist pig. I am not. I am a staunch supporter of women’s rights, gay rights and the rights of the weak anywhere in the world.”
http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2011/02/17/nir_rosen_explains_twitter_controversy
Bold is mine.
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hwwp://www.thestar.com/news/article/940665–officer-apologizes-for-sluts-comment-as-controversy-swirls?bn=1
Here’s a current case of someone calling it as he sees it, and breaking the feminist taboo.
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I used to post on discussion boards and make it somewhat clear who I am. No longer. If anyone wants to know who I am, they can fuck off.
I now wear my anonymity as a badge of honor.
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As one grows out of ‘too nice-a-guy’ one usually develops the common sense to ask the killer question “If I put myself out for them, will there be any return of favour?”
Even a mangina ought to know that most feminists are perfectly happy to take whatever they can grab from anyone, but as soon as it’s more convenient for them you’re under the bus.
They have no loyalty to useful idiots, and you are an idiot if you expect any.
And bringing facts into the issue when discussing a feminist issue? Well that’s just like waving a red rag at the bull, just before you kick it in the happy sack…it will only end in tears.
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Hey, Lovekraft. That link didn’t work. Changing hwwp to http didn’t work either, though it seemed to come close.
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I felt this sorry for this guy for about 15 minutes, and then I discovered he blamed it all on the “right wing attack machine.” My sympathy ended there. He’s too delusional to even point the blame where it should be pointed.
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Yeah, I just found a video of him apologizing to Anderson Cooper. It’s shameless. I’ll have to update the post to add that.
For Lovekraft’s comment above, here is a link that will work:
Officer apologizes for ‘sluts’ comment as controversy swirls
http://tinyurl.com/4h9gu48
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It’s treason to speak the truth in an empire of lies.
Something like that anyway.
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From Fabron’s link:
How’s that for a methodology?
Oh, so that’s what they are “taught”.
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Well, looks like the ghost of Josef Stalin has indeed been resurrected.
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Coming soon to an airport bookstore near you :
Rogured by a Mob by Lara Logan
Tough, pretty war correspondent Lara Logan was just trying to do her job when she was set upon by a gang of Arab hooligans. This book rips the lid of the entire TV-Model-Spokesperson industry and makes hard-hitting calls for women’s right to do their job unmolested.
For the male readers we have the action thriller Dick Storm by Ian McGina
When a White Princess journalist was set upon by a mob of angry Arab goons while she was just trying to do her job, former Navy Seal Ross McBain single-handledly assisted a group of women who came to her rescue.
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OT:
Check this out:
“The crowd cheered as Cassy Herkelman’s hand was raised, but the historic moment of the first girl wrestler to win a match at the traditional Iowa state wrestling meet comes with an asterisk.
Her opponent, Joel Northrup of Linn-Mar of Marion, declined to wrestle her.”
http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2011/02/17/girl-wrestlers-opponent-forfeits-match/
Check out the comments:
“Who could blame him? It would be pretty embarrassing to lose to a girl! Now he can claim that he was serving a higher purpose.”
When he brushed up against her lady parts how would he not be open to allegations of sexual assault?
You do the fight, you beat up a girl, you don’t you get called a gay.
Boys today are screwed.
I would have wrestled her, and tried to win in record time.
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Yeah, I often wondered how those links are posted in blue. I just go to the site and on the address bar right-click copy, then paste it. Any advice?
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Wow. We already knew she was a hoochtard when the story first broke out, but this is bad. She’s at the Adrianne Curry level of cocktease sluttitude. Brushing soldiers and purposely bending over in front of them?
This is really getting out of hand. There’s a reason her whoring style is known as ‘provocative’. To provoke is much stronger act than ‘asking for it’. Thank the Goddess the media is ready to give her all the public support she could ever want!
On a related note, it is getting warmer this week in the NYC area. The shameless skanks are already out in force here, seeing nothing wrong with presenting themselves as meat, but being appalled when someone dares follow their lead. I guess selective outrage is ALL the rage these days.
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@ Lovekraft
I just right click the link in the address bar and copy, then I past in the text box and it comes out blue. If any tags are missing or the link is in an incorrect format, I’m sure this web page will not see it as a link and not make it blue.
I don’t know what could be the problem.
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She reminds me of the reporter in the movie Three Kings who was fucking George Clooney in the beginning.
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Yeah, but how do you add an avatar? I’m thinking the “Chinese man dressed as old white guy” would fit my profile.
http://boingboing.net/2010/11/05/young-asian-refugee.html
Maybe I need to send Welmer some money or something.
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This article is a good example of what will happen as more men go their own way. The manginas like this fool will be the only targets for femminism. With luck guys like this fellas will be the majority along with the whiteknighting bullies paying child support.
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I think you are correct WF. I bet they knew she was a war reporter in Iraq and retaliated against her. These idiots have no clue. What radicalized the Egyptian populace and led to this revolution was U.S. interference in middle eastern politics, esp. the war in Iraq and the U.S. backing of the mubarek regime.
Let me say it again. Before 9/11 only about 10% of the Egyptian female population wore the hijab. After, it was about 80% when I was there last. I remember arab girl after arab girl telling me something like:
“We don’t hate americans, we hate your president, government, or the war in Iraq.”
Middle Easterners have a weird collectivist but hierarchal mindset. Israel is on the bottom and the top. Then comes lebanese, who are considered effiminate due to their pronunciations and dialect of Arabic. Then there are wealthier countries somewhere in the middle. I don’t exactly know how to put the hierarchy together but most Egyptians and other Arabs don’t like saudis. One major reason is their arrogance and pompous attitudes but saudi arabia does have mecca so, there is that. One thing I always thought was weird was how so many Egyptians looked up to Iran.
Iranians, thoughs, consider themselves persians and not Arabs. Persians get offended to if they are compared to Arabs, in a similiar way Arabs, esp Egyptians I met, get offended if they are called Africans cause they descended from pharoah, or so they say, not nubians.
Last time I was there me and my buddy started to mix it up some. When shop keepers invited us in for tea hoping to sell us something or just practice their english, or army guys from the country side wanted to talk or taxi drivers, instead of telling them I was american I would tell them something else. Usually I would say I was half lebanese, convincing cause lebanese have light skin and sometimes even blonde hair, and half french or canadian or something. It was remarkable to see how they would react, especially if I said I was half lebanese and half persian but lived in America.
Economic factors, along with American intrusion and corruption of islamic culture along with a corrupt, American backed regime, and the wars in the middle east were all symolized in this one woman running around like she was a princess.
It just goes to show how western womens minds work and how entitled they feel. I wouldn’t go into someone house and tell them what to do or how to act but western women seem to think they have that right in the micro and macro levels.
I am really wondering if this isn’t women playing “let’s you and him fight” in the aggregate. I wonder if our feminist president will use this to send in troops to Egypt. The US/Israel alliance has been shaky recently and it is the religious right that is usually so interested in preserving that alliance and with Obama having a republican congress, I really wonder if this event won’t be used to shore up some support from the religious right by putting soldiers in Egypt to protect Israel from Iranian interference or attack.
Iran has really realized that the US is unlikely to do much against them but Israel might. The problem is that most surrounding countries look to Iran as a example of what they want to be and generally don’t like Israel too much. So if Israel did attack Iran, with more than a computer virus, we could easily be drawn into war with them. IDK, kinda off topic but I after the time magazine nose-less girl, I wonder if this event won’t be used in a similiar fashion. As proof we need to send more young men to die for some bitch in another country. Or this time one of our princesses in another country.
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She reminds me of the reporter in the movie Three Kings who was fucking George Clooney in the beginning.
That probably feels better than getting fucked in the end.
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http://freebookspot.co/CompactCategory.aspx?Category_ID=233
click “Rows on page” = 8
Enjoy
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Read the comments under the Lovekraft article…I’m gonna puke.
And I couldn’t make it through the grovelling mangina apology video, with Anderson Cooper’s sanctimonious PC shaming bs. This story really lays it all bare, on so many levels…
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I’m a woman and honestly I don’t feel a bit sorry for her. I think she brought it upon herself with her astronomical level of stupidity.
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Is there any way this article can be sent to Nir Rosen?
There might be a 1% chance that he actually converts and joins up with us, you know.
We need to be proactive about sending Spearhead articles to people discussed within them. Send this article to Nir Rosen.
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For our children!
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namae nanka February 17, 2011 at 16:59
From Fabron’s link:
Rosemary Gartner, a University of Toronto criminologist, said linking style of dress to sexual assault is “ridiculous.”
“If that were the case, there would be no rapes of women who wear veils and we know there are rapes in those countries,” she said.
Yeah, that’s what she feels, with nothing to cite her assertion.
How’s that for a methodology?
It is a methodology that is FUBAR.
“In fact, this is completely contradictory to what officers are taught,” she said. “They are taught that nothing a woman does contributes to a sexual assault.”
Oh, so that’s what they are “taught”.
Yes, that is what they are taught. I recently attended a required annual brifing regarding rape, sexual assault and basically telling men that whatever a female says/does/thinks it is wrong to say; ” that’s what she says/does/thinks”. To the largest extent, it was more shaming and blaming men for “the plight of women in the U.S. military”. The class was instructed by a female officer candidate who blamed all of the problems “suffered” by female soldiers and female military personell on “the patriarchy” ( while smiling and twirling herself). This was noticed by everyone as not being professional behavior .
The only change in the films we were required to watch was; the U.S. military finally recognizing male military personell as victims,moreso than female military. I and a couple of male soldiers spoke up regarding feminism in the U.S. military. We awoke alot of other soldiers who became quietly intrigued by what we asked. The answers/excuses we got were recognized as BS by at least most other soldiers present. One female soldier ( I kid you not) stated; ” feminism does not belong in the U.S. military”.
Her statement had quite an effect.
Every soldier in my unit is very well aware that I am an MRA/Counter-feminist. Every female soldier in my unit is aware that I am not a misogynist. I have invited, and continue to invite, male soldiers to visit this site, The Counter-feminist site and, The False Rape Society site. I may not post any comments here that have any nuances but, when I speak to men regarding this and the other mentioned sites, I do so with what I believe to be nuances.
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Next to look for will be Yezhov and Beria.
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Right on cue, Forbes magazine is using the Lara Logan situation to harp on about the ‘pay gap’, the ‘culture of rape’, etc.
http://blogs.forbes.com/elisadoucette/2011/02/17/lara-logan-assault-reminds-us-of-the-many-faces-of-gender-assault/
Anyone who is registered to comment there, please go and post a link to this article, over there at Forbes.
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The CNN video is unbelievable. What does he gain by groveling like that? He lost his job and his position in the lib-fem pecking order. They don’t respect him, and now they will disrespect him even more. What will he have to do in order for them to take him back? How do you make peace with 5 year-olds, who themselves have never taken responsibility for anything?
Men need to stop apologizing for everything. If women and white knights want to take everything we say at its worst, that’s their fault. Men need to demand respect, not grovel. Women only treat us well when they respect us.
Once again we see a successful man being brought down by the femocracy. Once again we see women gaining from “sexual assault”, using “sexual assault” as a weapon against any man. They start spewing their filth, accusations, and lies against the first vulnerable or stupid man to come along. The assault itself is left unproven, and in fact becomes the foundation for more attacks on men and for more misandry.
Once again, women gain from “sexual assault”.
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Dear All:
Once again, quite a worthwhile article and a good commentary.
The utter unaccountability and stripper-commitment of Western Female Supremacists certainly starts early. As I have discussed in previous submissions, girls in the government schools can be found to dress as prostitutes up to Grade 6 and as strippers after that. Their showing of their bear breats is the favorite peep show of entitlement of them, even against the nominal school and district rules which, “forbid” such.
But, along with their big bear breats often comes a big mouth. I know of one girl in Grade 7 who was a serial peep show who had a mouth to match. It was a group of junior-high girls who physically put her into her place. She expressed surprise when school and district administration did nothing in opposition to the girls who had assaulted that stripper mouth. And, as usual, that stripper did not connect the dots to recognize that her own serial assertion of female rights (as taught by staff–and uber-embraced by her) carried over to other females with whom she was in competition.
Those violent other females exercise their female prerogative to, “kick her ass” with utter anticpation of confirmed no accountability. In blunt terms, the cats gave her a tit kicking.
Eventually, female violence will be opposed substantively, however, such accoutability will be as per the protection of females only, of course: the accountability of females as per victimizing males is to be chaptered farther down the calendar.
What is noticable was that that the female-against-female violence was on the school grounds, during a school day, in broad daylight. The violence in the washrooms which I had been monitoring via my pattern of continued discussions with the major male custodian had been outted. (Girls had a practice of baptizing their own miscreants in the toilet bowls–as well as writing offensive statements on the walls of toilet stalls.)
As such, given my knowledge of the above, the pink school-yard bullies were merely, “going the next step” in establishing their geographic jurisdiction for their girl-on-girl violence, egged on the criminality of the government schools to hold girls accountability for virtually anything at all.
Viguratively speaking, the tit fight turned into an ass kicking. Apparently it is not only boys who love T&A: increasingly, many girls do, too.
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I don’t watch TV and when I did watch TV back in like 2005 I almost never watched the news. But still I was under the impression that CNN was some major news network that covered extremely serious world topics.
So…
Why the fuck did I just see a five minute video of a guy from CNN do nothing but keep trying to have a guy admit that he joked about a woman getting sexually assaulted?
Hey Nir…hey buddy…here’s a defense for you: People make jokes about men being abused, assaulted, beat up, kicked while they are down, raped, gang raped, spit on, vomited on, pissed on, jizzed on, stepped on, farted on, shit on, slapped, punched, set on fire, electrocuted, shot, and just about any other form of violence you can think of EVERY DAY in ALL forms of media and NOTHING is done about it. No one complains. No one even bats an eye. And there damn sure isn’t a five minute segment on a major news network dedicated to trying to shame the person who made the joke…so maybe your defense should be…I joked about a woman being assaulted…so what?
You spineless fucktard.
Glad I stopped watching TV.
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OT;
A misandrist Sprint commercial;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vFhBqu50bM
I suggest all men not give them any business.
A safe auto commercial where the man is repeatedely kicked in the groin;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5nP6AURrgY
The same goes for safe auto.
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The other day, while netsurfing, I tumbled across a series of vid clips (5) that left me very pensive.
Maybe many of the answers we are seeking are there:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGIgOIFdnMQ
Things are not always what they seem.
We may be in deeper shit than we think.
..But there’s a way out.
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More misandrist tv commercials;
http://www.google.com/search?q=misandrist+tv+commercials&as_sitesearch=youtube.com&sa=X&ei=JfpdTcPzAsSugQf0kcGRDg&ved=0CDEQ2wE&hl=en&rlz=1W1ADRA_en&sqi=2&ei=JfpdTcPzAsSugQf0kcGRDg#q=misandrist+tv+commercials+site:youtube.com&hl=en&sa=X&rlz=1W1ADRA_en&prmd=ivns&source=univ&tbs=vid:1&tbo=u&ei=OfpdTb2fFJL2gAfQn-z4DQ&ved=0CDcQqwQ&bav=on.1,or.&fp=57f95bece4692568
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First of all, Egypt is not Arab. Secondly, Egypt is only nominally Muslim.
Plenty of Coptic Christians were in those mobs.
Despite all of of Egypt’s problems it was/is a secular state.
Not trying to be the Fact Police – but these things are important to know and understand.
Hot debate. What do you think?
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I have noticed when men are victims of violence/mishaps female news reporters get away with joking/laughing about what the man/experienced, with total immunity/impunity. They aren’t shamed into publicly apologizing, or resigning for joking about/laughing at the male victim. I call this “politically correct hypocracy” and PC BS.
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This episode exemplifies how rape and sexual assault are an industry for women to milk for their own benefit and use for bashing men. Since feminism is a zero-sum ideology, when they can bash men and destroy a man’s career (ostensibly devoted to the same causes as those very same feminists) they get 2 for the price of one.
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I’ll drop the name of CNNs’ Robin Miller and HLNs’ A.J. Hammer.
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“More misandrist tv commercials;”
They are everywhere.
It matters so little to me now. There are many ways to skin a cat.
When it comes to consuming (i.e.: spend money), I am a complete whore.
When I bought my last car, I played car dealers against one another until I got a low down to earth price (with my promise that I would add many “specials”).
I used the techniques I have learned from “The Prince”
Wise as a fox, but white as a dove.
When we agreed on a final price, the (female) sales rep thought she would make a killing on services and gadgets… but I had a change of heart right after the signatures were on paper. I said simply that I had changed my mind and wouldn’t buy any of those useless gadgets…
I thought the “lady” was going to slaughter me…
Laughs best who last laughs.
Eh?
(By the way, the company that makes the car has misandric ads, but I fucked them, just the same).
I don’t think they made money on me. A just compensation I would say.
I squeezed every penny, took my time (2 weeks of “negociations”).
I ate their profit margin and I wasted their resources for them.
That’ll teach them..
My point? : they piss you off with their misandric ads: well, fuck them, literally!
Full blast!
They are fair game to me. No: they belong to me. They are my meat. I feed on them as much as I can.
And you are invited to the feast.
Wisen up and think hard. Be inventive and imaginative and s c r e w them.
Complaining is futile: shoot ‘em down! … and ask questions later.
And..oh.. I almost forgot: I wrote a letter of complaint to the company. For good measure. I hadn’t liked the look on the face of the saleswoman after the deal. She had to be taught manners.
Vicious?
You betcha!
And I love it!!
Wise as a fox, white as a dove.
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Several years ago there was a debate if mixed-gender wrestling would be offensive to some religious groups. The Mat, a site for USA Wrestling had articles about it and apparently now it’s accepted, even though the male forfeited.
Another issue is Title IX exemption of contact sports from the law. But a federal court ruled in a football case, Mercer vs.. Duke , that one an institution permits a member of opposite sex to a team they must be treated equally. Eventually Heather sue Mercer’s $2 million punitive damages were reversed by an appellate court, based on SCOTUS ruling Barnes vs. Gorman. Link;
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=barnes+v.+gorman&hl=en&as_sdt=2&as_vis=1&oi=scholart
http://www.themat.com/
Mercer story
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/10/12/sports/main240794.shtml
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I posted something similar here on the previous Lara Logan article at The Spearhead and at FB’s http://www.inmalafide blog. This rant may be a bit long, but useful. The Muslim Middle-east, North Africa, Central Asia and South Asia can be frightening places for foreign men as far as sexual assault and anal rape are concerened, and it can be even more dangerous for women as far as sexual assault and rape are concerned. As most of you know, I’ve been in the United States Army as a Soldier for 8 years and will be leaving the Army soon; and, I’m a veteran of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. You may also know that I’m a Christian and a Roman Catholic to be more specific. There was an U.S. Army Major, pay-grade O-6, who was anally raped by 3 Afghan local worker nationals at Bagram Airfield which I regard as the safest U.S. military installation or close to it in Afghanistan. The Major was most likely armed with a nine-millimeter handgun, trusted the Afghans, and was unexpectantly grabbed beaten and anally raped. American military Magors are typically about Lara Logan’s age in their 30′s or a bit younger in their early to mid 30′s. I always say that if one chooses to act morally in the world, Earth, one should expect no reward in this world only the next-that is hopefully one will go to Heaven for doing so. That is to say morals in the end mean nothing in this world except as the powerful can enforce be they a majority or well armed strong minority etc. I agree that one should try to create a Heaven on Earth as much as one can, but realize this is ultimately futile because we are all imperfect in one way or degree or another. FB is right that all ideologies including Libertarianism, modern day Conservatism etc. are self-deluding ideologies that don’t deal with reality the way it really is. He is also right that modern day Liberalism or Progressivism especially in its Feminist form is extremely self-deluding with regards to reality. Most people anywhere are not bad people, but the bad ones can really ruin your day. If the bosses who sent Lara Logan and even she herself wanted her to be safe from rape and sexual assault, they should have never sent her and she should never have volunteered. Sexual Assault and rape are morally wrong, but realistcly speaking it is a bad idea to put oneself in bad situations and expect nothing bad to happen. Remember, reality beats morality most every time in this world and probably always will.
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I couldn’t even watch that CNN video all the way through.
This reminds me of why I canceled my cable TV subscription almost three years ago.
“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” – George Orwell
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I forgot to add that although Afgahns and Arabs are different they are more alike than different. Each Arab ethnicity may be different from eachother, but they are more alike to eachother than the Afghans. We Westerners are more different from them than Afghans and Arabs are to eachother. Although most Arabs and Afghans would not sexually assault or rape anyone, there are a large enough minority who will attack any foreigner they can get their hands on. My observation and talking to them indicates they are sexually attracted to extremely fair-skin, blue or green eyes, and a skull or facial feature of a Caucasiod European as well as red or blond hair. Many old Afghan men attempt to dye their hair red for example.
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Decades ago, people got in trouble and had to apologize for offending Christians — witness John Lennon and his “bigger than Christ” remark.
Nowadays, we have The Religion of Women, and it’s them we’re not allowed to offend. Somehow, we ended up worshiping women as the new deities.
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“But no, one man who made an “insensitive” remark takes the fall, while those who actually bear a considerable part of the responsibility for the incident remain blameless.”
This is not a 0/1 situation. Those responsible would not receive blame even if Rosen were not sacrificed and even if they had taken blame that would not excuse Rosen for being stupid enough to pull that stunt.
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“She was often “embedded,”…’
inbedded in bed ha hahaha!
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TFH-did you say Forbes? The old man, Malcolm, was a closet homo who used Liz Taylor as his “beard”. And his son who tried to run for President is a real pussy. What do you expect from these magazines, National Review too, that were taken over years ago by communists and one world government types who just use feminism, gay rights etc that they feed to the proles and all the other garbage to push their real agenda which is power, control and money for themselves.
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“Rosen is a straight-up liberal with politics that are probably considerably to the left of most of our readers,”
His groveling should be no surprise when you consider this.
You think he’d have been given the job(s) he’s had if he’d had any backbone to begin with?
Liberal males are cowards. That is why they are liberal in the first place.
Trouble is that stronger men see guys like him wimpering like that and (not realizing just what serious pussies these guys are) conclude that the liberals must have some kind of jack booted nazi style kick ass dudes behind them to make these guys act that way.
Why? Because it would take some kind of jack booted nazi style kick ass dudes to make US act that way!
So we erroneously conclude that the liberals are loads more powerful than they actually are and this then makes us afraid to speak out against them.
Or put another way the liberals are gaming us.
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Concerning the Stalin analogy.
Unlike in cold war era Russia the guy in this video is NOT saying these things at gun point.
This is what I’m getting at. We see these guys acting the way any guy of ordinary valor would act ONLY IF held at gun point and so we (albeit unconsciously) assume a comparable force must be at play but there isn’t. It’s just him being a complete wus.
Also the Soviet Union was WAY more to the political right than even western conservatives of the cold war period. While the U.S.S.R. might have been ‘pro-feminist’ in theory it was anything but in practice. This is because the Soviet economy was so dysfunctional that it created an environment entirely too spartan for such an unhardy weed as feminism to grow there.
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Should a women need help and you don’t want to help…
“Yo, feminist, do it yourself”
Say that often. It will both denigrate feminism and make the strong point that men are necessary.
She’s trying to change a tire?
“Yo, feminist, do it yourself”
She’s lost and needs directions?
“Yo, feminist, do it yourself”
She need the help of a man for whatever reason.
“Yo, feminist, do it yourself”
She voluntarily put herself in danger whilst in Egypt.
“Yo, feminist, do it yourself”
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So good to see that America is still the land of free speech (provided of course that you do not upset the feminists). As I was saying only a day or so ago, I have often noticed that the card carrying liberals are frequently the most intollerant. Last year I was talking to a female american of the feminist marxist persuasion, and (casually) was voicing my opinions on certain matters. I gained the feeling that she had never heard anyone say the sort of things I was saying (you can guess what) and so was genuinely surprised that such a view was even possible, and so I can only suppose that self-righteous prig (and blue-stocking) Ms Greenberg is equally upset with Mr Rosan. (No pussy for him).
I was just looking at a photograph of my Great Aunt (a VAD Nurse) which was taken in Egypt in 1919 (I think Egypt must at that time have been part of the Empire). Apart from her face she is fully covered from head to toe and wearing a hat.
Funny the way Egyptian rioters have gone in the space of a day or so from being champions of liberty to rapists and abusers, and equally funny that all those brave Egyptian women semmed to have evaporated. The inherent imperialistic racism in the attitude of the likes of Ms Greenberg is clear for all to see.
As for Mr Rosen he needs to acquire some cajones!
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“As for Mr Rosen he needs to acquire some cajones!”
Ms Rosen is probably using them right now. If he begs enough maybe she’ll let him use them for 5 minutes sometime next month.
(Oh dear, it seems men can use shaming tactics too, feels goooood)
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The thrill seeking slut gets absolutely no sympathy from me. If you play with fire you are likely to get burned. She should thank her FEMALE status for not been killed long ago.
Its easy for women to get into dangerous situations when they have such a big safety net provided by MEN.
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He would have had a new job if he would’ve just defended himself.
Too bad he can only be programmed. His actual thoughts slipped through and in came the network admins. Can’t have a workstation going rouge.
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rogue
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Chickenhead Logan is the quintessential Feminist “martyr” isn’t she?
Teasing the men she won’t screw (skimpy attire) and the two or three studs she does bang end up in trouble for their piece….divorce, media attention, etc. and a child in the mix! Yeah, she’s a feminist hero.
Though I cannot laugh at her alleged sexual assault in Egypt, I have to agree with the others here who say she was STUPID for waltzing out into a hostile crowd of revolt like she did. Think about it, 160 years ago this broad would have been one of the femmes at the Battle of Bull Run watching soldiers getting killed in the battle as if it were watching a sport!
I knew chicks like this in HS and College and they usually end up miserable old hags no men can trust and later wonder why they’re lonely at age 45?!
This guy Rosen simply castrated himself in front of a media audience with his “apology”, no different than the clowns who get elected to serve us in public office and always bow to their “queen”.
Where is courage and conviction? ~buried in the same cemetery as Common Sense is!
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WELL-SAID BROHAM!!!
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You know what this guy Rosen reminds me of?
A “Cuckold”! Yes, those husbands or women (BSDM fetish types) who allow their wives to screw around with another man while denying sex to her husband (and they like to watch too!) where the woman/wife is the dominant of the two and holds sex up as a stick and carrot and the weakling husband “enjoys” being submissive to his unfaithful wife! Yes sports-fans these people actually exist (I reaserched that “lifestyle” for a book I wrote in 2009). This guy Rosen would be one of those “Cuckold” men for sure. LOL
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From Karen Greenberg’s comments:
Harm to whom? The only person harmed in the incident was Ms. Logan, and that certainly wasn’t caused by after-the-fact comments from another journalist.
Secondly — and this is the point that makes me angry — look at her language. “In no way compensates.” The man loses his job, is humiliated and shunned; his life is turned upside-down… yet all of that is worth nothing. “Does not fully compensate” might be acceptable. “Still does not eliminate”; “cannot retract”; any number of other phrasings might have made her point without putting such total arrogance on display.
He retracted his comments and prostrated himself on television like an abject serf. But no, once you’ve offended the female supremacists, nothing can ever rehabilitate you. You’re finished. Will they be demanding ritual suicide next?
Let me take a page from Ms. Greenberg’s book when I say:
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Poor Rosen. He just failed one big shit test.
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@ Doclove: ” I’ve been in the United States Army as a Soldier for 8 years and will be leaving the Army soon; and, I’m a veteran of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. You may also know that I’m a Christian and a Roman Catholic to be more specific. There was an U.S. Army Major, pay-grade O-6, who was anally raped by 3 Afghan local worker nationals at Bagram Airfield…”
Dude, you have zero credibility. Anyone who has even a passing understanding of the military (let alone allegedly “I’ve been a soldier for 8 years…”) knows the pay grade of a major is O-4. I think you, and your story, are full of shit.
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This is why you should never display sympathy for a PC Liberal – even when strung up by his own kind: PC Liberal Socialists are devoid of any character and must be eradicated like roaches if this country has any chance of surviving the coming disasters. Liberals are treacherous snakes.
Socialist Liberals are the entire cause of your distress; instead of jumping over immediately to sign them over on “Our Team” you must be prudent: WAIT for them to prove themselves. Feeling some sort of misguided “kinship” with this PC Academic Rosen is the same as feewing sowwy for an underling when Osama has him whipped for not following the Party Dogma…
PC Liberals lose their careers over different reasons than you. PC Liberals suffer financial loss and loss of family over different reasons than you.
You rah-rah mgtow/mrm types who publicly display your delusions by typing “Hooray – MRM Victory is at hand!” every time some small victory is written here best man-up and admit that you DO in fact live in your enemy’s regime. No BigTalk and self-congratulatory applause will substitute for the dirty work you’ll need to do before you overthrow the current regime and earn the right to rule yourselves.
Man up – you can do it.
You’d better…
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Blast from the past:
Criminalizing Masculinity, by Paul Craig Roberts, 10-15-01
http://vdare.com/roberts/column101501.htm
“If you are a heterosexual male of any race, tear yourself away from the war on terrorism and let Howard S. Schwartz inform you of your real enemy. His book, The Revolt of the Primitive: An Inquiry into the Roots of Political Correctness, has just been released by Praeger Publishers in Westport, Ct. The book is a bombshell.
“Schwartz, a professor of organizational behavior, shows that feminism has metamorphosed from demands for gender equality into gender warfare against masculinity. The feminists’ holy war against “toxic man” is as ferocious in its way as the Muslim holy war against the West.
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“It is ironic that American males, demonized and second-class citizens in their own society, are at work liberating Afghan women from Bin Laden and the Taliban. Perhaps the American male should reconquer his home front before he shows his prowess abroad. “
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He was fired anyway, why did he apologise?
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He was fired anyway, why did he apologize?
Tragedies like this remind me that we are after all serfs in a society
I mean, come on. He was talking on twitter!
“Freedom of Speech”?
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One has to wonder if Christiane Anmanpour, Martha Raditz, Helen Thomas or Candy Crowley would have been treated the same way. Or would they have been smart enough not to tempt fate in the first place?
An very attractive caucasian woman has no business being caught in the middle of an angry mob of middle eastern men. Had she been a real journalist she wouldn’t have been there. They snatched her because she’s hot. This is what keeps the feminists quiet about it. Had she been one of the dog faced older female journalists there would have been outrage. But then those women usually disperse crowds of men, not draw them in.
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BIG difference between freedom of speech and saying whatever you want.
Thou shalt not criticize woman.
You won’t be shot or arrested or fined. You WILL be cast out and shunned or even fired from your job. That’s how the PC nazis work.
You either keep your mouth shut or exalt women whenever given a chance to.
NEVER say anything bad about women.
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@Nir Rosen,
fuck you. You deserve to be thrown under a bus for supporting totalitarian guvment for so long.
What’s it feel like to be thrown under the bus by the people you supported? eh?
What’s it feel like to have your right to freedom of speech violated by being sacked for speaking your mind, eh?
Not nearly as fucking bad as having your kids kidnapped, I can assure you.
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You got any bright ideas?
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http://www.slate.com/id/2285318/?GT1=38001
Hanna Rosin again.
Griss mill alert Welm.
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While we are at it, there is an unpleasant angle regarding this whole affair which is that it is one PC group that attacked another PC group. I can only imagine what the media would do with this if it occured at a Tea Party Rally.
Not only does the media have protected classes of people (women, racial minorities, etc.) who are automatically deemed victims, but there are other categories that are automatically deemed the victimizers (men, whites, christians). The media has a hard time when both sides are all wearing either black hats or white hats.
This was on full display during the Democratic Presidential primaries when a black man and white woman where competing against each other. Neither Barak Husein Obama nor Hilary Rodham Clinton could gain “traction” against the other. They both had spent their entire political careers waiving the bloody shirt of racism and sexism respectivly and had a hard time finding a second act when nobody would or could buy the first.
They kept yelling rock only to have the other yell paper.
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Where I live there is a night club on the way home. In the summer I walk past it at around midnight because that’s when my building gets locked up. I see 16-20 year old girls staggering around paralytic. Often they fall down or need to be held up by the boys. They are dressed like whores if that. But apparently if some guy rapes them she had nothing to do with contributing to that assault. Sure.
If I walk down the streets of harlem like Bruce Willis in die hard three with a sign saying “I hate niggers” I have nothing to do with the inevitable result which would be a ‘crime’? Sure.
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“Schwartz, a professor of organizational behavior, shows that feminism has metamorphosed from demands for gender equality into gender warfare against masculinity. The feminists’ holy war against “toxic man” is as ferocious in its way as the Muslim holy war against the West.”
The feminist holy war I can believe. It exists, it is true.
The Muslim war against the west, not so sure.
I think that the Muslim war against the West is a myth, a way to draw our attention elsewhere, while we get shafted deeper and deeper by the feminist state.
The enemy is not the one you think it is..
Our view on Islam has changed completely since the advent of feminism.
How come?
Because it’s a patriarchy.
We shoot ourselves in the foot when we fight Islam: they might be the only ones to save us from our own womenfolk, our true enemy.
The internal proletariat (feminism) is much more likely to succeed in destroying us than the Muslims (external proletariat) will ever be.
The West has become a culture of death, not unlike most matriarchies.
In its present state, the West is no longer viable. The damages have been too devastating.
All it takes now for this society to fall into the abbyss is a little push.
We will have to give that push if we want our freedom back.
Else we be crucified.
I believe that if the West sinks, it will stop feminism in its tracks.
For the sake of mankind, the step must be taken.
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@ paigeu
@ GS Jockey
To paigeu, thankyou for your support and seeing that I’m telling the truth. I try to speak the truth to the best of my knowledge unless I have what I believe to be a compelling reason to not do so. Most of the time I’m too honest, and I’d rather withhold information, than outright lie. It’s as a rule easier to maintain one’s integrity, reputation and keep one’s story strait as well as protect oneself from negative consequences.
To JS Jockey, Why would you think I am lying to you? Do you have evidence I’m lying to you? No, you don’t have evidence that I’m not a Soldier, and that said you don’t have evidence that I’m telling the truth either which I acknowledge. However, if you have no evidence either way, why would you not take what I said at face value? What possible harm could come to you for taking my word at face value? I don’t see any harm which could come to you for not taking what I stated at face value and why you wouldn’t do so; and, I don’t think anyone else with a rational brain would either. You are acting like you are either an irrational Troll King or you could be trying to pump more information out of me by having try to prove myself as a Soldier because you are either American or Allied counter-intelligence or you are the Enemy. Either way, I’m going to practice good OPSEC( Operation Security) and not give you what you want while I’m still in the military and probably not afterwards too. You either believe me or you don’t, and either way I don’t care if you believe the truth I state or not. You can try to give me a compliance sh@@ test like a woman all you want while I’m still in the military, but you will fail. You’ll probably fail after I’m out too even if you personally find me with your cute adult girlfriend and if you’re a cute woman too and both of you offer to orally and vaginally pleasure me without giving me diseases or legal grief because it’s the best way to thank most single military men and veterans myself included in my opinion. If you are a man, look elsewhere as I’m a compltely heterosexual/ strait man. If you are a bi-sexual or heterosexual/ strait man, with a cute adult girfriend I’ll be happy to cuckold you at any time. If she is your wife, you’ll have to wait for me cuckold you until after my ETS( Estimated Time in Service) last day which is 30 April 2011 if all goes right which it should and I’ll be ready at my complete convenience from 01 May 2011. I don’t want a company grade article 15, non-juidicial punishment from a Captain or 1st or 2nd Lieutenant or worse a Field Grade Article 15, from a field grade officer(Major, Lieutenant-Colonel, Colonel) or worst of all a court martial, juidicial punishment, to be locked up in jail or prison because adultry is still punishible by the U.S. UCMJ(Uniform Code of Military Justice) whether you know the woman is married or not. If I cuckold you, my only conditions are that I have no legal, medical or financial worries. I tell people that I’m single with no children of my own that I’m aware of when being strait seriously honest with them. When I try to be funny I say I have lots of kids, I just don’t know who any of the mothers are. If you are a woman please feel free to volunteer, and if you are a man feel free to volunteer any adult female family members, wives, girlfriends, and female friends as long as there are no legal, medical or financial reprecussions to me.
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Concrete proof of who actually won the conflict.
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What’s really depressing is how deeply the feminists have their talons around the throat of society. Feminists and their enablers snap their fingers and things happen. Men who speak publicly against feminist dogma have their careers destroyed and lives ruined. There’s this guy. There’s Larry Summers. There’s that diversion of the stimulus away from construction to women’s interests. And somehow, the feminists keep blathering with a straight face about the Patriarchy.
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In a previous post, I stated the Major’s paygrade was an O-6. I made a typo as it is actually an O-4 pay grade.
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@ GS Jockey
I would have left you alone 2 posts ago if you had asked if I made a typo or even commented that I made a typo which I admitted to making a typo in my last post. I probably wouldn’t have been insulting to you when you stated that I have zero credibility. However, when you stated that I and my story are full of shit, it was game on. I enjoyed typing the my second to last post and laughed at you while doing so as you asked for it. I know I’m a soldier until 30 April 2011, whether you or anyone else believes me or not.
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Wow… after reading what he said in the aftermath… his “apology”… he’s no man at all. Men are born with balls. this man has no balls. And just the same, he has no spine either.
I could never imagine doing such a thing — apologizing for the opinion that I have, which in our so-called “free country”, the opinion that I am entitled to have, the opinion that is supposed to be protected by the 1st amendment. And furthermore saying that you’re an embarrassment to self and family… my god! He never gave an ounce of thought to what his pitiful, well trained & programmed groveling would do to reshape the image that his wife and kids have (had) of him.
“Dad, you’re a pussy!”
Wow.
The way that people are fired for their opinions, the way that feminist orgs and other politically, religiously, or philosophically motivated orgs can influence the fate of someone’s career… it all goes to prove that this is not a free country. This country is ruled not by true law, but by ever-malleable de facto law.
Grow a set and start fighting back, dudes. It’s damn near too late already, but we gotta try to turn this ship around.
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Every person on this board with a dick got the full force of natural consequences. No man has anybody who will step in and save them from their own stupidity. If a stupid man lives to old age, it’s largely a matter of luck.
Our own fathers and brothers rarely saved us from our own actions. Why? To teach us to make better choices, so we didn’t have to rely on luck to live to old age.
You women really have absolutely no idea how men experience the world. I’m not trying to bash on you,I’m just genuinely shocked over and over by how little you know about us. Usually every time a woman makes a statement like this,she’s wrong.
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Rebel February 17, 2011 at 21:29
“And..oh.. I almost forgot: I wrote a letter of complaint to the company. For good measure. I hadn’t liked the look on the face of the saleswoman after the deal. She had to be taught manners.”
Damned fine work. Great advice too.
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[[Does that make it her fault? No, it does not, it makes it the fault of the people who targeted her]]
She knew the risks. She is a grown up woman. She alone bears responsibility for what happened.
[[ who should be hung up by their nuts until they fall off.]]
You are no better than the Taliban
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By the way, has anyone seen the article on Infowars?
and the comments?
like this one who wrote in all caps:
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Somewhat off-topic I know, but what if a woman pays to have her husband beaten by thugs?
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Heh
Your welcome to go over there and try to.
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[[Somewhat off-topic I know, but what if a woman pays to have her husband beaten by thugs?]]
You know the drill.
A story will be put out as to how the husband “oppressed” the woman.
Any excuse will do.
She was frightened. It was all in self defense.
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In Sovi- Stalinist Academic Climate, Research Does You!
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In the aftermath of the baby rapist video I started to think about all of the people who said it was recommending that boys be taught to “respect women.” I wondered exactly what they meant by that and eventually concluded that “respecting women” means to allow women to dictate to you your opinion of any given woman in any given situation.
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Rosen probably thought his Jewish credentials would give him some slack – but it seems he just forgot that being male trumps any other safeguard.
That being said- it’s hilarious/disturbing to see the blogosphere go berserk over what might have been a simple groping or pinching. To many cultures- women are just women and nothing more than women – regardless of their professional credentials.
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The apology was to prevent lawsuits and/or death threats.
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Actually, on further digging about Nir Rosen, he has quite an Anti-American background.
He is not a good guy, apparently.
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He who threatens his enemy with death
then gets his enemy to apologize
truly Rules the Kingdom
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Dear Firepower:
Hear, hear!
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COLUMBIA BROADCASTING BUTTOCKS
The media are bleeding profusely for poor Lara Logan, who had her ass grabbed on the streets of Cairo. But, in between the screams of “sexual assault”, real victims of sexual assault go unnoticed. Afghani women, darlings of the media, have the centuries old habit of hacking off the genitals of wounded soldiers after a battle. Contrast this form of sexual assault with the fate of poor Miss Logan, who suffered the infinitely greater ordeal of having her breasts and buttocks stripped and fondled on the streets of Cairo. Miss Logan is fortunate that she is a woman. Her immaculate posterior is more worthy of protection than the anus of white males sodomized by blacks behind prison bars. She only had to suffer a few minutes of paws on her love cheeks, as opposed to bending over on a daily basis.
Let us not deny Lara Logan her dignity. She suffered minor abuse but abuse that does not even begin to equal those who suffer far more outside the carefully focused indignation of the media lens.
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