CBS Reporter Lara Logan Beaten, Gang-Raped in Egypt Protests

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by W.F. Price on February 16, 2011

As pointed out in the case of Jayme Biendl, the female prison guard who was attacked and strangled by a rapist while working at the Monroe State Correctional Facility, ignoring reality has consequences. Feminists and their supporters, however, continue to turn a blind eye, because they are so deeply emotionally (and sometimes financially) invested in the idea that human nature can be altered to suit our contemporary sense of propriety, which is a moving target.

There is perhaps no place in which the ugly side of humanity is more nakedly displayed than in a mob, yet Logan and her superiors seemed to think that it would be an acceptable risk for her to cover the chaotic revolution in Cairo. I’m not sure what kind of world these people live in, but even I would know that a blonde, Western woman in an Arab country really shouldn’t be out on the street at night. Add an angry mob, and, well… What the hell did they expect?

I’m sure people will try to find some angle to divert attention from the fateful decision to send Lara Logan out into the mob, perhaps by blaming Arabs, Islam, or even anger at the West. But it happens here, too. In Seattle, during the Mardi Gras riot of 2001, essentially the same thing happened to a woman who got caught up in an out-of-control mob. I’m afraid Mrs. Logan got it worse, however — it took a platoon of Egyptian soldiers to rescue her from the attack. She’s lucky she survived. She took the first flight home and is currently in the hospital.

What I wonder is how feminists can square their declared desire to eliminate violence against women with their demands that women be placed in situations where they will inevitably get hurt. There are many things – and people – in this world that are beyond our control. None of those men in Egypt who attacked Lara Logan will ever face an American police officer or judge. In all likelihood, none will ever even be named.

So I suppose the question is: Do feminists want women to be safe and secure at all times, or do they want women to be encouraged to take risks that will inevitably get some of them hurt very badly? You just can’t have it both ways.

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nigeles175d February 16, 2011 at 07:01

Feminists will always want everything both ways, and everything in-between too.

Men are drafted to the frontline to be killed and maimed, whilst feminists ensure female “soldiers” are in safer environments. Is this any different? I’m sure that she could rely upon the fact that any male members of her reporting crew would act as “white knights”. In this situation the Egyptian soldiers came to her rescue.

If feminists had any idea this woman would be in danger they would have legislated for a man to have taken her place whilst ensuring she still received “equal” pay.

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Opus February 16, 2011 at 07:01

You are fortunate to have my comment because last year I had occasion (for reasons I will not go into) to consider Egypt and its men. I interviewed two English women who had been there. One said that she felt perfectly safe; the other that Egyptian men are ALWAYS touching you – it is how they are.

Egypt is third world: It is not the west. Each year thousands of white western women travel to Egypt as sex-tourists – perfectly safely: The going rate for a gigolo – good looking guys in their mid to late twenties – is about thirty five pounds for an afternoon – that is I suppose about fifty american dollars. In other words pocket money for the women. it is illegal of course (as is abortion) but a blind eye is turned by the authorities. I never got the impression in my researches that the egyptian men were in any sense being abused, save by the western women.

So far as Ms Logan is concerned I am sure others will be able to put it better than I but I ask: Whore or Attention Whore?

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W.F. Price February 16, 2011 at 07:15

You are phrasing this poorly. The true issue is that a manager / owner is barred from making a decision not to send a woman because of the additional risk. If a woman and an owner are both comfortable with the excess risk, then they should surely be allowed to do so. The way you are phrasing makes it seem like legislation should prevent women from being employed in risky places/situations.

-Pat

Fair point. Changed to “encouraged.”

Alcuin February 16, 2011 at 07:16

When I studied in university a woman claimed to have been gang-raped. After telling the story, she acquired a certain authority. She was at the top of the feminist hierarchy (yes, they have a hierarchy too). Her word was gold because of her rape.

It was never even verified if she had in fact been raped.

It’s a harsh thing to say, but the woman at university gained immensely from the rape, or her rape story-telling, with this increased stature. She probably wouldn’t have gotten into that very small degree program without the rape story to tell to the admissions committee.

At school, no one, especially a man, could ever challenge her about any subject, however remotely related to rape. If she pronounced something on government economic policies, it was gold. If she pronounced something on a movie, it was the truth. Didn’t matter that it had nothing to do with rape.

Rape against men or women is a tragedy, but I also find it sickening how “survivors” or their “friends and supporters” often use their status for personal gain. The woman at university, and her supposed supporters, had no respect for her. It’s the same thing when feminists politicize breast cancer. Why is every personal tragedy (when it comes to women) politicized? I hope this doesn’t happen in this case of the reporter in Egypt, but I won’t hold my breath.

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gatorayd February 16, 2011 at 07:17

I know this will get me down rated (users here seem to have a hard-on for Islam, not that I blame them), but honestly, what do you expect from Muslims?

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Hadamard February 16, 2011 at 07:19

Ha ha ha. I just read one of the articles and it says she was saved by a group of women… and 20 soldiers. I bet there were only like 2 women verses 20 soldiers (no mention of the fact that they were male soldiers).

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Opus February 16, 2011 at 07:26

I agree with Alcuin: In my experience women wear RAPE like a badge of honour or military medal (as I presume Ms Logan will now do). I, of course, never believe word of it, and I notice most guys these days are equally sceptical. There may be an increasing Rape epidemic but no one I know is a Rapist. Funny.

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Alcuin February 16, 2011 at 07:28

BTW, how many men in prison are gang-raped, and we don’t hear about it? Why doesn’t the media report that?

Why won’t the media politicize those stories?

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Opus February 16, 2011 at 07:33

Skadi: I am afraid you are mistaken if you think the sex-tourists are just elderly women. They exist of course but most seem to be in their thirties if not younger. Women like sex with dark handsome strangers. The cost is peanuts and I am sure (with the rationalisation haster going into full spin) they have little trouble justifying their sessions as love, as the men tell them how beautiful and desirable they are and of course they will have a hard-on. Let’s just say the payment is a gift shall we? Male prostitution is inevitably very different from Female Prostitution but it is Prostitution nevertheless. Then the women can return to the west boasting of their new ‘boyfriend’. It is just holday sex – the latest incarnation of Carnaval.

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Mr. Miagi February 16, 2011 at 07:36

These days the feminist media takes any unwanted sexual act, whether minor or major, and labels it as RAPE to perpetuate the myth that all men are rapists. The theory is the more they use RAPE in articles to describe simple gropings or touches, the more easily the mindless masses will believe in the RAPE is epidemic/everywhere myth. Lamestream media has long ago given up its credibility in matters of reporting sex and crime since the time manginas and feminists infested journalism schools all the way up to national and international newsrooms (ie. CNN, FOX, the big three, print media, New York Times, etc).

Far more likely than an actual gang rape, this Lara Logan chick was exposed to at most to a group of Egyptian men fondling her tits or ass and this was reported as RAPE. Like the women who dominate its newsroom, mainstream media is NOT accountable for the wording it uses to report trumped up stories that perpetuate the Big Sex Lie – all men are rapists and all women are sex victims.

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namae nanka February 16, 2011 at 07:36

It’s hard to believe that she was raped after looking at that “moments before” pic.
Sexual assault being described as anything physical that a man can do to a woman, as in men beating up men is simple assault, men touching a woman is sexual assault; I’m curious as to how far this incident has been stretched

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Uncle Elmer February 16, 2011 at 07:38
Herbal Essence February 16, 2011 at 07:39

My reaction was that this is a horrible tragedy that shouldn’t happen to anyone.

But we all know which cultural ideology thought it was a good idea for her to be in the middle of a riot zone in a country notorious for its treatment of Western women.

For silent female observers, NO that is not blaming the victim. It is not her fault. It is a call for common sense.

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Uncle Elmer February 16, 2011 at 07:40

Women like sex with dark handsome strangers.

And it’s wearin me out!

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Alcuin February 16, 2011 at 07:40

Interesting: A Western woman (who in the Muslim world is known as a Western Whore) is reportedly raped by Muslim men. While I feel disgust at the rape itself, I don’t feel any “those damn Muslims. We should teach-em a lesson!” feelings.

Perhaps the real clash of civilizations isn’t between Islam and the West, but between feminists/Western women and all people of character.

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Herbal Essence February 16, 2011 at 07:44

Opus- “I am afraid you are mistaken if you think the sex-tourists are just elderly women.”

IMO if anyone goes overseas with the thought of having sex with “new friends” this is sex tourism. I don’t think money needs to change hands. Conversely, just because someone might have sex for concert tickets rather than cash, that doesn’t mean she’s not a prostitute.

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alpha February 16, 2011 at 07:45

Perhaps the real clash of civilizations isn’t between Islam and the West, but between feminists/Western women and all people of character.

Thomas Friedman writes in The World Is Flat that, in his opinion, The War Between Islam and The West is NOT a clash of civilizations but a clash between conservative and liberal ideologies.

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alpha February 16, 2011 at 07:47

I know this will get me down rated (users here seem to have a hard-on for Islam, not that I blame them), but honestly, what do you expect from Muslims?

How about this?

On the day Mubarak fell, women reported being groped by the rowdy crowds. One witness saw a woman slap a man after he touched her. The man was then passed down a line of people who all slapped him and reprimanded him

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/crisis-in-egypt/latest-news/60-minutes-reporter-lara-logan-suffered-beating-sex-attack-during-cairo-protests/article1909281/

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Margera Bam February 16, 2011 at 07:49

Notice how the mainstream media couldn’t even say “Egyptian soldiers came to her rescue” they had to placate the feminist delusion by first adding in “a group of local women and Egyptian soldiers came to her rescue”

Unbelievable!

Even when they are reporting hard facts, media choose to word their reports in such a way as to deny the heroic men their due credit. Color me crazy, but without the MALE Egyptian soldiers who came to her rescue, NOT the local women, there would have been no rescue of Lara Logan to speak of and she’d be a heap of weak, bloodied and tattered female parts lying in Tahrir Square.

Even when men rescue a total stranger, a white woman, according to the feminist media, their heroic contribution is superseded in importance by that of “local women” whose effort is secondary and marginal at best.

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Alcuin February 16, 2011 at 07:51

The fact that feminists use rape for political gain, and the fact that so many fucking women make false rape claims says to me that rape is not such a shaming, life-deteriorating thing for women. When a man is raped, as in prison, he rarely if ever talks. When have we heard a male prison-rape survivor talk about it? He’d rather die than talk about it. He’ll carry the rape to his grave.

Perhaps rape is far more shaming and harmful to men than it is to women. The way women and the feminist media talk about rape against women, it seems more like purse-snatching at the emotional and shame levels. They are simply blackmailing men with the rape claims. Personal gain through blackmail is the true meaning of rape for women, it seems.

If rape is simply a career opportunity, or a way to celebrity-hood for a woman, then we need to rethink things.

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Skadi February 16, 2011 at 07:51

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Confused February 16, 2011 at 07:53

No group on earth is more privileged that American/western women.
I won’t waste my time any more worrying about their safety, or lack thereof, due to their choices.

I’m not sure what happened to her is worse than the legal kidnapping of your child spread over 10-15 years – which happens to men all the time and women don’t care. So now, neither do I.

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Mark Plus February 16, 2011 at 07:56

And, of course, women who get raped in Islamic societies often face trial and punishment for their unchastity.

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Traveller February 16, 2011 at 07:58

But… the picture above the article is before or after the “attack”?

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Opus February 16, 2011 at 08:05

I was previously romantically linked with one of these television reporters – you know the sort ‘ this is Jane Doe reporting to you from the front door of a building closed to the public and now back to the studio’. She just never shut up; rabbit, rabbit, rabbit as we say over here. Better looking in real life than on the screen, and strange thing, I can’t remember her name – Caroline something or other. Whilst reporting on some strike she was knocked down in a stampede and a news photographer rushed to her rescue. (que Tchaikovsky) Love at first sight and happy ending. He’s welcome to her but it shows (I’m on topic at last) that sending women out as reporters is not a good idea.

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barbarossaa February 16, 2011 at 08:05

they are so deluded that they actually express shock at the fact that some men (allegedly) did something bad to a precious demigoddess of the west.

because the ideal world for feminists apparently is one where men are incapable of even thinking violent thoughts let alone act on them.

meanwhile the empowered little dears are free to falsely accuse. kill their own husbands in their sleep, cutoff their genitals and laugh about it on national television.

this isnt about rape its about rape against WOMEN and no one else.

this is why its so shocking to them. the fact that these men (allegedly) raped her means they where not playing by the skewed rules of the west, in that men (rightly so) cannot rape, but where women (wrongly so) can financially rape steal a mans legacy (children) and falsely accuse of rape with impunity etc.

falsely accusing a man of rape is a crime EQUAL to rape, but the feminists defend the women that engage in it.

no outrage no shock this is about FEMALE rape nothing else. And so my proposal is this.

stop caring about female rape altogether. (of course dont engage in it) but stop defending women against it also.

since according to feminists where all just a bunch beta male misogynists, why should we defend a woman from rape? Let the socially evolved limp wristed manginas that they would use as the model for all of manhood defend them. the Egyptian soldiers that defended her, are still being lumped into the “all men are rapists category” so what was the point exactly.

i will not defend a woman who is being raped. i will keep walking as though nothing is happening

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Jay Hammers February 16, 2011 at 08:09

Blame all men, that’s the usual idea.

Or maybe it was Egypt’s “rape culture”.

Let me guess. The patriarchy is at fault.

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Professor Hale February 16, 2011 at 08:12

Same thing happened to Anderson Cooper (but without the sex). The problem seems to be the hubris of American reporters who think that unless they are personally part of the story, it didn’t happen. Egypt has plenty of indiginous reporters who could have brought us that story. the BBC has plenty of reporters who could have done it. But American news agencies have to put their own people’s faces at the location, just like those morons who meet the hurrican at the shore because we won’t understand what a hurricane really looks like if a CNN reporter isn’t there leaning into the rain and wind.

Personally, I am gratified to hear that Egyptian men and women came to Ms Logan’s rescue. It is the difference between barbarism and civilization and it is good to see that Egypt has some of the latter.

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Novaseeker February 16, 2011 at 08:13

Opus, the main reason they go there, just as you said, is because they get from Arab guys what they will never get from European guys (tons of affection and attention).

Err .. you mean sex.

You do realize that most Arab men consider virtually *all* Western women to be sluts and whores because they don’t cover? In other words, Western women are seen as being generally sexually available to all men due to the way they present themselves — in the eyes of most Arab men. So, yep, they get all the sexual attention they want, but the men see them as the town bike. Sex, not affection.

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namae nanka February 16, 2011 at 08:22

Uncle Elmer’s link once again:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article149727.ece

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Migu February 16, 2011 at 08:35

I’m curious. Has anyone actually lived in a muslim culture?

I say lived because like any other people they won’t tell you truth until they trust you.

Anyone???

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Mr. N February 16, 2011 at 08:36

To clarify was she actually raped or just beaten? The original news release says “sexual assault.”

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/02/15/60minutes/main20032070.shtml

According to wikipedia in legal terms sexual assault can include “inappropriate touching” which if she was in the middle of a mob I don’t doubt occurred.

In either case she receives my pity and sympathy. I’m not a fan of the muslims, other documented instances of gang rape and atrocities in the middle east happen, sometimes as punishment for crimes, but I just don’t want people blowing the rape-whistle in this case without justification.

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Migu February 16, 2011 at 08:36

Anyone ever even talk to a Muslim about Muslims?

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AntZ February 16, 2011 at 08:37

Reporting is a difficult and dangerous job. Over the past 20 days, 140 reporters have been killed or beaten in Egypt.

I can respect any reporter, female or male, who takes a risk for his or her job.

Respect, not worship and deification. The other 140 reporters (some of who are dead) remain nameless. Their stories have not been told. Why?

They are men.

The real story here, is that there IS a story. If Laura Logan had been Larry Logan, and Larry was in the morgue, there would be no story.

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Herbal Essence February 16, 2011 at 08:38

Skadi-”Opus, the main reason they go there, just as you said, is because they get from Arab guys what they will never get from European guys (tons of affection and attention).”

Oh my lord. Maybe if Western Women not starved 90% of Western Men of affection & attention their entire lives, we’d be more affectionate. Actually, the affectionate males are the ones who get kicked to the curb in favor of the aggressive thugs. Speaking as a formerly affectionate man who has shed thousands of tears over getting eviscerated by women, FUUUUUUUUUCCCK YOOOOOOOUUUUUU.

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intp February 16, 2011 at 08:40

Don’t believe her. Don’t care. I hope the Arab guys didn’t catch anything from her.

That is what the non-stop lie called feminism has done to me. Vive la nihilism.

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AntZ February 16, 2011 at 08:46

Here is a link to the committee to protect journalists, which documented over 140 cases of death and assault to reporters in Egypt over the past 18 days:

http://www.cpj.org/mideast/egypt/

I have never seen a story about any of the other brave journalists.

Laura Logan should be respected and praised for her bravery, in the same way as the other 140 journalists were.

The problem here is not that women can or cannot take a risk. She should take whatever risk she wants to take. The problem is that only the suffering and sacrifice of women is ever noticed. Male journalists who die in the line of duty are a dime a dozen.

But a pretty girl journalist … stop the presses!

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Mr. N February 16, 2011 at 08:47

@Migu

I’ve been to a middle eastern country but I can’t really talk about it.

Lets just say I was floored when I saw a dude pull out the palm-reading pua routine.

I didn’t really get the chance to talk to the men much about the socio-sexual politics. Some muslim men had multiple wives making things tougher for the youths to find women. Also most of the men get married when they are early or late thirties because it takes so long to build up the wealth that families require to give their daughter up to him, and women require to be attracted to him, and the women they marry are relatively young. (In that area usually not mid teens but like early twenties.) Keep in mind this is only a small subset of one very unique country from my small experiences.

I was talking with one guy who spent several years in Saudi Arabia. He asked his coworkers about their second and third wives, how much did it cost? (There they had to pay the family for the bride.) They would never answer him, always saying, “Too much.” Apparently if you purchase a gift for one you have to purchase them all a gift. It gets pricey quick.

I was also talking to this one dirty old man who went on in length about the lesbian orgies some of these harems engage in while the hubby is away. That was an interesting conversation.

If we thinks socio-sexual politics is weird here just keep in mind there are other places where things are screwed up, just in different ways.

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alpha February 16, 2011 at 08:54

It’s a clash between traditionalism and modernity.

I support the traditionalists

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Opus February 16, 2011 at 09:00

Herbal Essence: I have just read your quote from Skadi where she refers to one of my messages.

She has entirely misrepresented what I said.

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Eric February 16, 2011 at 09:02

Am I the only one wondering if this really happened or if it is just an elaborate stunt to boost Ms. Logan’s career?

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Ken February 16, 2011 at 09:07

Mark my words….
American women (particularly white ones) will soon begin to enter the “mail order bride” pool for foreign (Middle Eastern and Asian) men who are making good money since the socialism here is bankrupting the USA.
It’s already a fact they are the growing # of Islamic converts in the Western hemisphere….you watch, CNN will soon be doing a story on American (white) women moving to Indonesia or Dubai, etc. for marriage.

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Charles Martel February 16, 2011 at 09:07

CBS Reporter Lara Logan Beaten, Gang-Raped
W. F. Price

Not so fast, Bill, it’s not at all clear that she was raped. In fact, think about it, how exactly do you rape a woman in the middle of an angry mob? Standing up? Hard to stay on mission with all the jostling. Lying down? You’d get stepped on or worse. I don’t buy it. More likely she was just slapped around and had a few fingers jammed where the sun don’t shine.

It’s my opinion the alleged attack was more political than personal. Don’t forget that Egypt is yet another country in which the US has been meddling for decades. Mubarak has been propped up by the USA for thirty years. So, not only was Lara (Lara! LOL) Logan doing her cleavage-flashing Yugo Grrrl thing at night among a bunch of rowdy freedom fighters, she was also a highly visible symbol of American political meddling. She should be grateful all she got was a little (alleged) frottage.

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AntZ February 16, 2011 at 09:12

@Ken

“American women (particularly white ones) will soon begin to enter the mail order bride pool for foreign men …”

I hope they come with a “return to sender label”. These guys are in for a shock.

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Omnipitron February 16, 2011 at 09:12

American women (particularly white ones) will soon begin to enter the “mail order bride” pool for foreign (Middle Eastern and Asian) men who are making good money since the socialism here is bankrupting the USA.

This makes sense, but I really wonder just how successful they will be. If the world realizes just how ‘special’ Western Women are…..

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freebird February 16, 2011 at 09:17

IS that really what she was wearing?
She may as well have been naked.
Talk about asking for it.

Comparing this to Anderson Cooper, who wore a milspec uniform with bulletproof inserts and had a contingent of men to protect him is disingenuous.

I daresay if she had been circumspect in her appearance and behavior
this would have not happened.

Let the fems screech foul, but she brought this on herself stupidly.

All that empowerment was limited to the space between her ears.

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alexamenos February 16, 2011 at 09:22

…I really wonder just how successful they will be. If the world realizes just how ‘special’ Western Women are…..

Also, if the rest of the world will is unwilling to pay by the pound, then western women may find limited success in the mail order bride business.

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Opus February 16, 2011 at 09:22

Alcuin (again) makes a very valid point. When a man is anally raped he will NEVER want to talk about it. Even though he is entirely a victim, it is his shame; yet women seem unable to resist basking in the glory of Rayyyp. The truth is this, of course: that if they really had been forced to have sex against their will they would never mention it. Pretty much the same goes for Ms Logan. I predict arise in her ratings.

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Migu February 16, 2011 at 09:23

I’ve been to a middle eastern country but I can’t really talk about it.

Ahh but you did. You said everything that needed to be said.

Same culture, a few different rules. Mwahahahahahahaha.

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The Trend February 16, 2011 at 09:24

Anderson Cooper is jealous…

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William February 16, 2011 at 09:26

What reason did we need to have a reporter over there anyway ?
How bad did we need close up shots of the destruction with someone narrating ?

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duke February 16, 2011 at 09:29

She has a nice rack.

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Nutz February 16, 2011 at 09:31

Hadamard
Ha ha ha. I just read one of the articles and it says she was saved by a group of women… and 20 soldiers. I bet there were only like 2 women verses 20 soldiers (no mention of the fact that they were male soldiers).

I caught that as well in the CBS article. I wish there was a picture of this so we could do the dot test and count how many men vs women were actually at the scene.

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Charles Martel February 16, 2011 at 09:32

IS that really what she was wearing?
freebird

No, this article shows her a few moments before the alleged attack.

She has her cleavage dialed in perfectly at 0.9 inches, with an appropriate non-Western country adjustment of -0.6″. You can see she is a serious reporter while at the same time sensing her powerful underlying femininity. The same effect in the USA would require a cleavage exposure of 1.5″.

I’m not sure what the fuss is about really, as our government is doing exactly the same thing every day.

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Rebel February 16, 2011 at 09:32

I don’t see the point here..

According to feminist orthodoxy, humpteen gazillion women are raped every day. This one is the humpteen gazillionth plus one for that day.

Women are raped if you have sex with them, women are raped if you don’t have sex with them, women are raped even if there are no men around. And on top of that, women are raped when they can’t get raped. Not being raped is rape just the same.

Every time two animals are copulating, a woman feels raped. There are more rapes on earth than there are hydrogen molecules in the universe.

To women of today, rape seems to be the highest achievement, the Royal Road to Success.

I’m laughing so much I might get a hernia, my belly is aching from the laughter.

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Herbal Essence February 16, 2011 at 09:34

Opus- Of course my heated comment was not directed at you. It was directed at the skank who smiles and nods as decent Western men get their hearts ripped out by succubuses.

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W.F. Price February 16, 2011 at 09:34

The article says she was NOT raped

-Devil

No it doesn’t.

Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) February 16, 2011 at 09:36

OT.
just when I think women couldn’t do something so stupid as to surprise me? The daily mail comes up with something I could not think of in my wildest dreams.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1357475/Elizabeth-Davies-sprayed-Asian-pupils-air-freshener-banned-2-years.html

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Migu February 16, 2011 at 09:37

I wouldn’t want to live in a country where most the women were pissed at me for appropriating what belongs to them and disturbing their racial heritage.

It will probably be the best option.

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Migu February 16, 2011 at 09:41

Would you rather have women angry at you based upon the stereotype or men? Just saying.

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Nutz February 16, 2011 at 09:42

I’m seeing “rape”, “sex attack”, etc reported, but when interviewed she makes it pretty clear that her team was simply mobbed and beaten. She wasn’t forced to the ground by 200 people and ganged raped, fondled, or even groped, but the way some of the articles read you’d think that’s what happened.

Furthermore, why is she news besides the fact it’s a “she” who was assaulted? What about the other members of her team who were also mobbed and beaten? IMO this is just another case of making news out of a molehill because the victim happened to include a Pretty White Girl.

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Robert February 16, 2011 at 09:43

Lara February 16, 2011 at 08:28
Seriously, what can these men offer western women?

What can western women offer them?

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Skadi February 16, 2011 at 09:43

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Smith February 16, 2011 at 09:44

I saw similar behaviour with my own eyes in Paris back in the eighties.
A friend and I were standing on an elevated plinth under the
Arc de Triomphe close to midnight on New Year’s Eve. Huge crowds
of celebrants swarmed all over the city and, of course, everyone’s kissing everyone. But as some women waded further into the crowd we could see they would suddenly be surrounded by mobs of Northern African, probably Algerian, men who would grab, grope and shove them around. Many of these women were with male companions who couldn’t
do anything but pull them out after realizing, too late, what was going on.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) February 16, 2011 at 09:44

The article says

sustained sexual assault

To a woman this is nothing more than being chatted up or groped. I don’t believe that she was actually raped. I’d like to see more evidence of that.

In ANY case. Women in the middle east know to keep male relatives or chaperones with them AT ALL TIMES. In the ME poligamy is legal. Therefore a significant number of men are disenfranchised and will likely NEVER be married. So the propensity of the poor young men to rape women who are defenceless is quite well known. The chaperone is expected to fight to the death to defend any woman he is responsible for.

Of course. This is spun in the west as ‘men are beasts’. But which men are we talking about here? We are talking about men who are impoverished. Never get sex. Have no hope of ever getting a decent job. Have no hope of ever having kids. When I was in Saudi Arabia the guy who made the coffee was from Sri Lanka and had 3-4 kids. He charges US25c to make a cup of coffee and I presume he had to pay someone to be allowed to be the coffee maker for our floor. He considered himself VERY WELL OFF compared to most of his friends.

These would be the ‘beasts’ who might just rape a woman who is not protected BY MEN. Men who have NO HOPE AND NO FUTURE. And by the way. In the ME there are ALMOST NO WOMEN in the same position. For a woman to be a viable wife all she has to do is to be able to produce babies. That’s it. Many women do not even let their husband see their faces.

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Peter February 16, 2011 at 09:45

What I wonder is how feminists can square their declared desire to eliminate violence against women with their demands that women be placed in situations where they will inevitably get hurt.

Simple, they’ll blame the patriarchy, as Jay Hammers said.

http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/why_rape_happens_a_reminder/

The desire to dominate others is inherent in all human beings. It’s more prevalent in males due to biology, mainly testosterone, which has long been proven to be linked to dominance-seeking behaviour.

Social dominance hierarchies occur in all social animals. Yet, to the demented feminist mind, humans are the exception, a blank slate at birth. Men are simply “raise[d] from the cradle to think of women as the gender that serves and is dominated”.

Of course, we here know the reality; that people dominate each other all the time. Men do it more, and do it more violently, but it happens everywhere, even among children. Witness, for example, the cruelties that alpha girls visit upon other girls to keep them in their place in the hierarchy. Look at the hierarchies little boys develop, quite naturally.

This doesn’t mean that what these men did was right. Murder is pretty natural for humans, for example, especially among the most primitive tribal societies. Yet we do not tolerate it. We shouldn’t tolerate this either. A sane civilization understands the reality of our base instincts. It realizes that it is the only thing standing between the base instincts of its constituents and utter chaos.

Feminists, like Marxists and other demented social theorists attempting to change the nature of humanity, do not understand or respect the inherent animal nature of all people. They try to force equality of result on people, and that’s where they do their damage.

The irony of this incident is apparent. Feminists try to “re-educate” young boys from cradle onwards. This is already the case in Europe. Two things then happen: most of the men these boys become are cowed and weak, submissive and unproductive, but also opportunistic, unwilling to protect women, for they do not see the benefit in it to themselves. Some of these men will become violent and dominant, ruling over fiefdoms in welfare ghettoes. Only a small fraction of dominant men will have their instincts harnessed to be the enforcers of the state. The feminist experiment in changing human nature thus weakens society to the point where it is ripe for conquest by a society that doesn’t believe in changing human nature, but in suppressing it.

I’m not going to blame or single out the society we’re speaking of. It’s simply in the right place at the right time. But this incident sums up the future of Western civilization in a neat little package. The hired enforcers were ineffective, the betas on the news crew uninterested in helping. And the barbarians moved in and took what they wanted.

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Papa Smurf February 16, 2011 at 09:46

she’ll be a CBS news anchor in no time. great way to get promoted.

I dont know if she genuinely didnt want what just happend or maybe feminism has affectivly blinded her and rendered her stupid. Blonde western women in the arab world are like all you can eat restraunts to fat people. Just help yourselves ;)

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W.F. Price February 16, 2011 at 09:46

Not so fast, Bill, it’s not at all clear that she was raped. In fact, think about it, how exactly do you rape a woman in the middle of an angry mob? Standing up? Hard to stay on mission with all the jostling. Lying down? You’d get stepped on or worse. I don’t buy it. More likely she was just slapped around and had a few fingers jammed where the sun don’t shine.

-Charles Martel

Well, I was under the impression that penetration = rape.

Here’s the Massachusetts definition:

Rape is also a legal term that is defined in Massachusetts by three elements:

-Penetration of ANY orifice by ANY object,

-Force or threat of force, or

-Sexual contact against the will of the victim.

I’ve noticed that even some feminists have been claiming that she wasn’t “really raped.” Under their own definition, and the somewhat more strict MA definition above, she was raped. But I definitely see your point. We don’t know whether anyone actually performed full on sexual intercourse with her, and it does seem kind of unlikely given the circumstances, but I wouldn’t rule it out. People can and will do pretty disgusting things in mobs — I’ve seen it first-hand.

Pierce Harlan February 16, 2011 at 09:47

My first reaction on hearing the news account yesterday was that this alleged sexual assault likely was, at the very least, exaggerated. Remember Jessica Lynch? I am posting about her this afternoon.

I have a different take on what you’ve written. Respectfully, I fear that analyses such as this might play into the whole “lock-the-doors-and-hide-the-daughters” Chicken Little hysteria that is the very engine that drives the imaginary “rape culture” — and, of course, false rape claims are its noxious emission.

Rape hysteria has always elevated both the prevalence and scariness factor of sexual assault far beyond the actual harm involved. It’s the reason innumerable innocent men were lynched by mobs in the deep South. It’s the reason many states had the death penalty for rape until it was ruled unconstitutional (if a husband was brutally assaulted in a robbery and almost died, and his wife was raped, the robber was put to death for the rape). It’s the reason that President Theodore Roosevelt declared in a State of the Union Address that rape was worse than murder, a common view in 1906 that is still held by some.

We see evidence of rape hysteria everywhere. Thirty men in a village might be killed in a raid, but if two women were raped, the rapes are the headline, and we worry what’s being done to protect THE WOMEN.

The fact is, innocent men are at far greater risk of physical assault than are women, here and everywhere, yet we tell our daughters they need to “take back the night.” Well, we don’t lock up our sons at night with curfews, so why should we pander to women — who are at LESS risk — when they claim they need to take back the night? The answer is, we shouldn’t.

In the Cairo mob attacks, my guess is that some male journalists suffered greater harm and were injured more severely than this woman. But a beaten and bloodied male doesn’t sell newspapers the way the alleged rape of a young female journalist does. Yet, we see the headline about her, and our reaction is, “we need to protect the womenfolk!” But sending MEN in harm’s way? Not a problem. Keep doing it!

Just like Jessica Lynch — innumerable males suffered far greater injury, but she became the most famous soldier in the Iraq war because of her alleged heroics and her alleged rape. It turned out she was neither a hero nor was she raped. (Some people bellyached that she received inordinate media attention, and they cited as an example an African American soldier who was captured with Ms. Lynch but who was rarely mentioned. Turns out that African American soldier was female. Nobody thought it was a problem to ignore the innumerable males who made far greater sacrifices, suffered far greater harm, and were killed far more frequently.)

What’s the result of rape hysteria? Take college campuses. There might be three reported sexual assaults in a year at a given college, but many more other violent crimes, yet we devote significant resources to fighting only the crime that is relatively rare with rape crisis centers (which are lonely places, truth be told). We also have sexual assault shaming orientation for Freshman males (where they are taught that masculinity is inherently evil).

Worst of all, exaggerating the prevalence and danger of rape fosters an attitude that tolerates — indeed, tacitly encourages — false rape claims in the interest of getting all these women who MUST have been raped to come forward. Rape is perceived to be such a terrible problem that we don’t have time to worry about the men and boys falsely accused — false rape claims, we are told, is trivial compared to rape. That’s the theme that runs throughout the entire false rape crisis.

So, I suggest that if women want to assume all the risks men have always assumed, it’s about time. And, yes, I am sorry if she was raped, but no more sorry than if her male colleagues were assaulted.

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Charles Martel February 16, 2011 at 09:48

Am I the only one wondering if this really happened or if it is just an elaborate stunt to boost Ms. Logan’s career?
Eric

The same thought occurred to me. Is there any better way to raise the profile of a tough Yugo Grrrl reporter?

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) February 16, 2011 at 09:48

it took a platoon of Egyptian soldiers to rescue her from the attack.

And let me guess how many of these soldiers were women. Um? None?

When there is danger to life and limb we see just how ‘equal’ women are.

Number of dead women firefighters on 9/11? ZERO.

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Troll King February 16, 2011 at 09:53

*yawn*

Typical feminist/western woman(as if there is a difference) acts like her typical bitchy self in a place that won’t tolerate it.

In Egypt most men and women know what they know from the west either from visting it, having a relative return, or TV. On tv women run around acting like bitches, screaming and emasculating men, and sluttying it up.

In Egypt, women raise their sons to be hyper aggressive because they live in a environment with hyper scarcity. Only about 1-2% of Egypt is arid or habitable by anyone other than nomadic bedouins. This is the Nile valley and it is where 99% of the population lives. So women, being the same as they are everywhere, raise their sons to be hyper aggressive and all the women use sex as a tool of manipulation. Kinda like how I give my dog a treat when it is good. Don’t believe for one minute that these arab women are veiling or covering up due to modesty.

The ones that veil will make sure their ankles and wrists are barely showing but they still wear make up and their clothing is tight and form fitting to show off thei curves and sexiness. At the same time their hypergamy has the same effects in their culture that it does here. They reject compliments and attention from lower class men while only looking up.

The guys, being clueless to female nature and believing what women say, put up with it due to upbringing and religion and culture. Then they turn on the TV or go to a sheesha(often called hookah in the west) bar and when soccer isn’t on they watch western TV or egyptian tv which is often westernized(damn their eyptian music video channels are sexy with the belly dancing and all.

See, the women there raise their sons the same as women here. They raise them to be retirement objects. These guys then face less prospects as women surpass them in education and work while the womens standards only increase. Some become radicalized. Others work shit jobs and day dream and smoke hash.

Then what happens? Some entitled femicunt from America finds herself in a service economy(taxi drivers and maids make more than engineers over there) full of brown men that will bend over backwards and compliment the shit out of her for .10 and smile at her and flirt because all he know about is how western women on tv fuck anything that moves while treating all men she doesn’t fuck like shit.

Well, have any of you guys worked in retail? If you have then you know the worst customers are always women. They won’t quickly and painlessly try to resolve a disput or be patient. Nope, they have to berate you for every inconvenience possible or for no reason at all.

Two anecdotes. The last time I went shopping with my mom we were at target and she wanted help in the clothes section. She looked around for all of 10 sec and then threw down the pile of clothes she wanted to try on and decided to check out. In the check out line she bitched at the cashier and the spent five minutes bitching at the assistant manager. I felt so sorry for the guy as he sat there and apologized and just took it.

Secondly, this happened in Egypt years ago when I lived with my mom there. I went home a few months back and heard this story again from my mom during my once a month visit the rents to, well, get rent.

I remember my mom and her feminist friends sitting around with a few of their female co-wokers who were egyptian. This one woman brought up her BF and mentioned that he was married. My mom and her cackle of western feminists went into, “OMG! Sweathear, he isn’t going to dump her for you” mode. They went on and on about men and abuse and so on and were trying to convince her to drop him and not fall for that trap.

She sat there with a bewildered look on her face and eventually(I saw this cause I was on the computer trying to troll in the same room) said:

“But…But…You don’t understand. He really loves his wife and is a great family man. I don’t want him to dump her. I want him to marry me too. The way he treats her is why I am so in love with him.”

Silence….so sharp you could cut butter with it. The look on their faces was well, I will never forget it. It reminds me of those creit card commericals.

Ok, one more anecdote and then I will finish. I remember this one girl who I dated the last summer I was there. She was 17 and me 22. She was finishing up her college degree at AUC(American Uni of Cairo) and I had just got past my freshman year. She came up to me during my smoke break and asked me out. She was taller than me and had a smokin body. She came from a nice traditional family of upper class means.(she had a personal driver) For a long time I looked back at that romance and wish I had married her. She wanted to have babies and work for the UN and was the most delightful and feminine woman I have ever met. She was the one that made me go, “WTF. Gender isn’t a social contract” and once I got back to the US my view women basically crashed when I compared these SATC college Caren Owens to her. But anyways, I remember her telling me in one of our sexy and hidden away romantic chats how she liked to watch gay porn on the internet.

I really found that weird at the time and remember asking her why? She said it was because she found it hot to see men dominating men. Think about that guys. Hypergamous female choice and male-male competition are the evolutionary rules of the jungle. Women are playing a major role in this revolution, just not in the way feminists want to claim. I have talked in other posts about egypt and what I saw and how muslim women control the men in the same types of ways that christian women do. So I will skip that for now.

So back to the rape. You have, lets just say she is middle class, a western bitch surrounded by men in a culture that elevates western attitudes and ideals while struggling to hold onto it’s own cultural identity, surrounded by scarcity and declining economic opportunities with men living in a near sexual vaccum. Then what happens? The last time I was over there three western cunts were violently raped and had to be medivac’d out of the country. I remember going around town with me and one guy and 6 girls(nice odd eh? that is what I thought at the time) and they were wearing shorts with their asses hanging out and shirts with their belly and tits out and we had been drinking and a taxi honked at us(like they usually do over there if they want to see if you want a ride) and the girls went into bitch rage mode and started cursing the guy out. He circled around and yelled and then I found myself alone on the street wondering where these hotties just went. Turned around and they were standing behind and my buddie and I walked up to the guy and hanlded it with a simple apology.

The fact is that women, western cunts, think they can go into a culture and act how they want and treat the poorest of the poor not just like “help” or a but like a slave that should be lashed for simply flirting. I bet these rapists look who do this probably thought she would act towards them the same way white women act towards brown and black men on western tv. Like he was a stud.

BTW, feminist troll cunts: I am not making a moral judgement about this just relaying my personal observaions after spending a total or cumulated 3-4 yrs there.

Women see men as tools. Tools have tolerance levels and once those levels are surpassed the tool breaks. Women see their sons as retirement tickets and they see the same in their husbands. The egyptian gov. hasn’t replaced men over there as a husband yet like it has over here. That is why women over there still marry. Just look at feminist claims of filicide and how boys are culturally valued. It is all about their future success through their sons success. Religion is about controlling women and giving them status and power while restricting men to the role of a utility device. The reason every god is male is the same reason as the ‘male gaze’ and why it is used in marketing. It gives men the illusion of power while controlling them and gives women the power to controll men because they are seen as virtueous(vir- as in virility, woman can’t be virtuous by definition, only controlled)

But, umm, like yeah dude. That is so hurrible I might go and cry a river. Maybe I am wrong but I bet the reason she was attacked was because arab men there hold western women up as the ideal while subconciously understanding that western women and the feminization of the islamic world and culture is at the root of their despair.

Feminism really is a interational religion propped up by controlling gubments, women and greedy corporations and it is perched on the collective backs of men. Feminism and female choice really will be the straw that broke the camels back(ha, looky what I did there). I know from my feminist mom work with USAID groups that a portion of all funding has to either go to women’s “empowerment” or to programs that also benefit women. I was always amazed at the number of poor and often times homeless boys that worked construction and built sewers or just begged for a living or stole. A prime target for the Muslim Brotherhood to recruit from and recruit they do.

Is it really surprising that the Muslim Brotherhood, a group that recruits boys and talks a tough talk and sends them off to die for 72 virgins, is backed by women? They sent betas and omegas, especially the pedalistizers and poor, to blow themselves up in the name of Allah and combating western imperialism. Then there is female-female competition playing out at the macro level. Do you guys think the average Egyptian gal likes that her potential love interest is drooling over britany spears on the cover of a imported mag or watching MTV europe and drooling over the scantily clad white chicks? Lulz please!

Your Majesty,
The Troll Sheik.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) February 16, 2011 at 09:54

Uncle Elmer February 16, 2011 at 07:38

Exactly Elmer. She’s a slut who tries to whore it up for the ‘alphas’ even when she is told to put those things away. Then, surprise, surprise, she gets a bit of working over in a crowd of men.

Who, exactly, is supposed to ‘protect’ women who are sluts and attention whores like this woman? Men? Why? Why can’t the women protect themselves? Oh. That’s right. Because ‘equal’ does not apply to the ‘protect and provide’ side of what men do when translated to the grrrrls.

Liars and hypocrites.

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Charles Martel February 16, 2011 at 09:56

Well, I was under the impression that penetration = rape.
W. F. Price

My bad. For some unknown reason I was thinking that rape required the use of a penis. You’d think I’d know better as I live in Massachusetts. You can be charged with assault here just for swearing at someone on the street.

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Falsely Accused Soldier February 16, 2011 at 09:58

I usually post on avoiceformen.com but this is why this happened.

This comes from my 27 months deployed to Iraq as a grounpounder on 2 different deployments.

Arab men are obsessed with western women. In Egypt women are not required to wear the hijab(female headdress). However they still dress very conservatively IE sleeves and no leg shown(they are allowed colors its not a Burqa).

Men and women are not allowed to converse socially in the majority of Muslim society unless they are related or in a relationship.

The average western commercial shows more tit and ass than an Arab man sees before he is married. In Afghanistan in the 90′s during the Taliban reign men were beaten for selling pornography. This porno was just western women in bathing suits.

If you click the link W.F. Price gave, you notice a few things:

A: She is blond, last time I was at Kuwait International Airport I lost count of the number of young Eastern European/Russian blond hookers arriving or departing.

B: She is wearing Jewelry a pearl necklace and probably other items.

C: She is wearing make up.

D: She is showing cleavage.

Just some background info for everyone.

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W.F. Price February 16, 2011 at 09:59

My first reaction on hearing the news account yesterday was that this alleged sexual assault likely was, at the very least, exaggerated. Remember Jessica Lynch? I am posting about her this afternoon.

I have a different take on what you’ve written. Respectfully, I fear that analyses such as this might play into the whole “lock-the-doors-and-hide-the-daughters” Chicken Little hysteria that is the very engine that drives the imaginary “rape culture” — and, of course, false rape claims are its noxious emission.

-Pierce Harlan

Pierce, I agree that the actually physical harm of a rape isn’t usually as serious as the reaction to the act. However, this is kind of the point, IMO. I think it’s instinctive for men to react to rape with rage, as you have often pointed out. I don’t think that will change. In fact, I think a lot of laws on the books from long, long ago were there to protect men from getting lynched, etc., because a woman pointing fingers and crying rape can easily accomplish that task.

So we have to keep in mind that rape/sexual assault has broader ramifications than many ordinary crimes of violence, such as plain assault. A rape, or a false rape accusation, will often trigger a disproportionate response, so in a sense I think women owe it not just to themselves, but to society in general to avoid putting themselves in situations where rape is a real risk.

How much does anyone want to bet that there will be no calls to bomb Egypt for “dishonoring” a good-looking blonde? Would this happen if a guy got beaten very badly? Not to anywhere near the same degree. Rape is inherently provocative, and I think if we’re going to be honest with ourselves we have to take that into account.

Tim February 16, 2011 at 10:00

Skadi, Lara,

I think what can be summed up in this post and the discussions following it are, what kind of a woman is Lara Logan? Well, she is strong, independent and powerful. She is the kind of woman practically all western women strive to be like. She doesn’t need a man. Not only that, she is a kind of hybrid man/woman, she can flow back and forth between masculine and feminine, with ease. Look at her photo at the top of this post: globular breasts fresh for the squeezing but checked by the fierce mannish intelligence of her eyes. She is a man and a woman at the same time. This is why she was raped. A woman like this is no longer a feminist, she is a supremacist.

I think the lesson for you here (Lara, Skadi) is that you might want to ask yourselves what kind of a woman do you want to be? I can tell, just by looking at her photo (Lara Logan’s) that she is not wife material. No normal man could ever want to marry her. She is what we call a ‘pump n dump’. I mean, seriously, look at her. Can you imagine her as a mother? What kind of a mother is she? If I was her son, how would I explain to all my classmates that my mother is a slut? Use common sense, ladies. Take a good close look at her photo, and ask yourself is this what a woman is supposed to look like who has young children at home? I know that I speak for most men here, but this kind of woman is good for dumping a load of sperm into, and then tossing her out of bed. I don’t think she is deserving of rape, nobody deserves that. But she does deserve to be banged from behind, a smack on the ass and a handful of hair to be grabbed and yanked. Sorry, but it’s true.

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W.F. Price February 16, 2011 at 10:02

For some unknown reason I was thinking that rape required the use of a penis. You’d think I’d know better as I live in Massachusetts. You can be charged with assault here just for swearing at someone on the street.

-Charles Martel

These days I’m not sure anyone can really say what the definition is any longer, but when in doubt I just go to the laws on the books.

Pierce Harlan February 16, 2011 at 10:04

“I think women owe it not just to themselves, but to society in general to avoid putting themselves in situations where rape is a real risk.”

Wow! Excellent point. A brilliantly subtle, but accurate, take on it.

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Firepower February 16, 2011 at 10:14

Egyptian men give us a valuable lesson on how to control reporter-Barbies chosen to do a man’s work by virtue of their plunging neckline that showcases their great surgically-enhanced tits.

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Rape February 16, 2011 at 10:15

The day women and manginas changed the definition of popular definition of rape from forced penetration to whatever a woman decides it is.

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Opus February 16, 2011 at 10:20

I think I’ve got it; the story I mean. It is a very old one.

Last weekend we were cheering the Egyptians to Democracy – our true liberal credentials, but now:-

We realise that the exotic land of Egypt is just the stage-set (with a chorus of extras) for the true drama, the old drama of ‘white girl at risk amongst dark skinned native’s. This is Mozart’s Il Segalio, or Rossini’ s Italian Girl in Algiers.

I hear on the news tonight that 365 people were killed in the recent disturbances and five thousand injured yet the only face you’ll remember is the one above with the semi-exposed breasts and wave of blond hair.

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Paul February 16, 2011 at 10:22

Reality always trumps political correctness.

As Ayn Rand said, we can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.

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The Contrarian Expatriate February 16, 2011 at 10:23

Sounds like she got what she set herself up for. You can yell, “I am woman, hear me roar!” all you want in the Anglosphere, but step into the 3rd world behaving that way and they will pound you (no pun intended) back into your place.

In the west, everyone makes a special effort to ensure attractive young women are safe at all costs. Egypt is not the west, it is Africa. I hope the memory of successive Egyptian men reminds her that she is not infallible and that she is not special.

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Robert February 16, 2011 at 10:28

W.F. Price February 16, 2011 at 10:02
For some unknown reason I was thinking that rape required the use of a penis. You’d think I’d know better as I live in Massachusetts. You can be charged with assault here just for swearing at someone on the street.

-Charles Martel

These days I’m not sure anyone can really say what the definition is any longer, but when in doubt I just go to the laws on the books.

The laws on the books are subject to be changed/ammended without notice.

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Robert February 16, 2011 at 10:30

It appears the legal definition os rape and sexual assault, as with definitions of “violence” against women/womyn, are subject to change/ be ammended at feminist whim.

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Robert February 16, 2011 at 10:39

The lamestream media didn’t mention what was done to the cameraman or any men who were part of the crew. This is more of the usual blatant politically correct misandry displayed by the LSM.

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Skadi February 16, 2011 at 10:41

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Richard P-Man February 16, 2011 at 10:49

I heard that no “penises” went into her “vagina” – or any other orifice in her body – I heard she was simply being called names while beaten – like whore, bitch etc…

I asked the people that have e-mailed me this to back it up – I have not heard back from them yet

The article says “sexual assault” – it does not say rape.

And – we all know how skewed the definition of “sexual assault” is in the MSM.

When (if) I hear back from them – I’ll post links.

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Firepower February 16, 2011 at 10:59

Until American males have the balls to once again punish their enemies, American males will no longer reclaim the honorable title of Men.

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Shaque February 16, 2011 at 11:01

Lara Logan’s the name, war corresponding was her game,
Hosni was the glory, His downfall was her story,
searching journalistic fame, in a thousand men to every dame
Tahrir Square is where it happened, another country now in decadent

Tall, white, and beautiful.. blonde it’s almost sinful,
Dark, Strong and Angry.. and not to mention, Many!
Those beasts were cruel, but the maiden is a fool
Association is folly, even for the sake of TV

Now all would up and roar, to cast the men all to the floor
as she takes the victim’s place, as all of men are a disgrace

now riddle me this before we go,
before sympathy knocks unto her door,
what was a woman doing in a place,
where all the brutes were in one space?

All the warnings, the risks and danger,
every journalist should know better,
when all the walls & steel crumbles over,
expect no empathy non whatsoever.

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 11:05

If a woman and an owner are both comfortable with the excess risk, then they should surely be allowed to do so.

If a male manager had refused to let her go out into the highly emotional mob he would have been attacked by feminist journalists and feminists generally for paternalism and being patriarchal. If she hadn’t gone out into the mob she wouldn’t have been raped, so hindsight wouldn’t have been available.

So there’s a strong tendency not to make those sorts of judgments, that’s directly attributable to feminist delusions.

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Lsmbr February 16, 2011 at 11:08

“There are profound and fundamental flaws in feminist ideology, flaws which this outrageous crime in Cairo might help us to understand, but we will never achieve such an understanding if we permit feminists to control the conversation. And one way they exercise that control is by threatening to cast into outer darkness anyone who, in seeking the truth, incautiously says the wrong thing out loud.”

http://theothermccain.com/2011/02/16/paging-jill-filopovic/#

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 11:08

It’s rich how feminist claim all men are rapists.

And then support sending in a very emotional Arab mob almost entirely of men, a very pretty blonde reporters, who are very much “the other” to these Arab men. It’s nuts.

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P. Gibson February 16, 2011 at 11:14

sorry, but THAT’s sad, and sadly, a look at what happens when equality really kicks in.

do I feel bad a little ? let me put it this way: I feel just as bad for this person as any other person who is violently attacked, MAN or WOMAN.

But I do not get out my “GOTHIC ROMANTIC VIEWS” on the tragedy of it all.

the tragedy is this will happen again, and again, and again, and to me, it’s not so tragic.

People put themselves in places, and they had better look out for themselves in these cases.

So she has noone to blame but herself- (Hint, it was a REVOLUTION), and perhaps feminism for instilling the confidence that she would be protected by some legal version of the white knight.

No, that feminine-imagined promised Knight in shining armour thing didn’t happen until the woman was raeped several tiems.

Bad knight, no biscuit.

We all take our hits, and this is how it plays out. Put the tissue box down, because, actually, AS I WRITE some other person is getting deep-sixed, and possibly a double penetration she didn’t anticipate — but should have given the circumstances.

She really found out first-hand what danger means, and possible the definition of ‘expendable’, in the end, and I have no problems with her tragedy, myself.

And then there’s the law of averages. How many WARS did this woman cover as a journalist?

Eventually……we all die. some who live in war zones, die sooner than others.

That’s feminism to me.

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alpha February 16, 2011 at 11:15

I hear on the news tonight that 365 people were killed in the recent disturbances and five thousand injured yet the only face you’ll remember is the one above with the semi-exposed breasts and wave of blond hair.

a million vote ups!

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alpha February 16, 2011 at 11:23

It’s rich how feminist claim all men are rapists.

And then support sending in a very emotional Arab mob almost entirely of men, a very pretty blonde reporters, who are very much “the other” to these Arab men. It’s nuts.

No it’s deliberate.
Think about it.
Insist on putting women in harm’s way.
Women get harmed(duh)
Men get blamed for harm befalling women-either directly(as in this case) or indirectly

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Gendeau February 16, 2011 at 11:24

It’s win-win for the feminists:

a) the reporter makes a succesful report – she must be equal to a man
b) she gets hurt (even better if they can call it rape) – men are bastards

the fact that they throw a woman under the bus, no biggie for these bitches.

hope she makes a quick recovery from her beating up – she didn’t deserve it, but she should have been intelligent enough to NOT BE THERE

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) February 16, 2011 at 11:29

W.F. Price February 16, 2011 at 09:46
“-Sexual contact against the will of the victim.”

As far as many women are concerned a slap on the bum is waaaaaayyyyppppp. Indeed? Many women accuse men of rape without even the pat on the bum. Indeed. Without even the man being present.

In my 20s? When I used to go to a bar in North Sydney? Walking back to my mates carrying beers meant women would feel up the family jewels as you walked across the bar area because your hands were full and there was little you could do about it. Conversely? Does ANY man here think that women would accept a man feeling up a womans vagina or breasts pretty much EVERY time they walked across a bar area with their hands full? No. It really isn’t much fun having women feel you up just to get a beer. Especially since none of them were offering the ‘follow on service’ and I was in love with my then gf and had no intentions of cheating.

I don’t believe the woman was raped. And even if she was? I don’t care any more than women have demonstrated they care about men being raped in the courts which would be not at all. When we reflect back at women their indifference to us they HATE on us. GOOD! It exposes their hypocrisy.

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 11:30

Skadi—

Ofc, being raped, esp. in that way, is worse than getting killed, but that is also a part of the professional risk.

I don’t believe that in the context of American or Western European culture at the moment more than a miniscule minority of women truly believe that being raped, even gang raped, is worse than being murdered, when push comes to shove. They’re just posturing. They especially are if they’re strong feminists.

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Jonathan Mann February 16, 2011 at 11:33

That lady is very attractive and we all know that even Western male reporters had it bad in the middle of that mob and female reporter shouldn’t have expected any better treatment. Its unfortunate that anyone should be raped but there is no way she didn’t know the huge risk that she was taking when she decided to place herself in the epicenter of a violent free for all.

If I was a reporter you’d never see me go into the middle of a prison riot to get a good story. I would know that the possibility of my being raped exists and I would have enough good sense not to place myself in that position in the first place.

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 11:35

Hadamard

Ha ha ha. I just read one of the articles and it says she was saved by a group of women… and 20 soldiers. I bet there were only like 2 women verses 20 soldiers (no mention of the fact that they were male soldiers).

The extent of what the “group” of women did was go find some soldiers and tell them about it.

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evilwhitemalempire February 16, 2011 at 11:36

skidy wrote:
“Ofc, being raped, esp. in that way, is worse than getting killed, ”

You ever been killed before? In a past life perhaps?

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Opus February 16, 2011 at 11:36

You have to wonder at the stupidity of CBS or perhaps this woman.

You are in a country where ritoting has broken out but you:

1 Are a different skin colour

2. A different religion

3. From a country doubtless much hated

and even the natives are staying indoors. What do you expect, and I notice this time there is no attempt to suggest that the rioters were being led by women. Funny that.

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alpha February 16, 2011 at 11:37

In my 20s? When I used to go to a bar in North Sydney? Walking back to my mates carrying beers meant women would feel up the family jewels as you walked across the bar area because your hands were full and there was little you could do about it. Conversely? Does ANY man here think that women would accept a man feeling up a womans vagina or breasts pretty much EVERY time they walked across a bar area with their hands full? No. It really isn’t much fun having women feel you up just to get a beer. Especially since none of them were offering the ‘follow on service’ and I was in love with my then gf and had no intentions of cheating.

Wow.
Men acting like that would have been imprisoned for rape. I am told the other cons don’t like rapists.

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Novaseeker February 16, 2011 at 11:39

And, from what I read she had flings with married men, which is totally unacceptable and which I condemn very strongly, both from the ethical point of view, and from professional too – as a high profile correspondent you may not have such flings. Actually, doesn’t she have a husband? Didn’t one of the articles say he was also there, if that’s the case it is sad he had to go through this.

When she was in Baghdad, she was having two flings at once: one with another CNN war reporter and another with a married Defense contractor. I believe the Defense contractor divorced his wife to marry Logan and is now her second husband. I remember back at the time that there was a LOT of press about the shenanigans.

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Tim February 16, 2011 at 11:39

Skadi,

I don’t know if she has a husband, I believe she does and a young son at home. The point is, look at her photo. Do you notice her tits? Haha, of course you do. Now, I am not Einstein, but I can tell you that a man who is comfortable with his wife dressing like the town slut, and putting herself into a mob and on television, is a man with no balls. I would like to see a photo of her husband. And now she has been gang-raped. Now her husband, like a supplicating pussy, if forced into the uncomfortable position of begging his wife to please dress modestly. Haha, oh the irony of it! And even funnier – she will lose respect for his manginatude! Hahahaha.

I do not in any way condone such a brutal attack, but a real man would have bitch-slapped his wife for dressing the way she does. She makes no attempt at modesty. Moreover, she positively loves the attention her suckable breasts give her. It must be like a narcotic. But a woman must be smart, and shrewd. She must play her cards wisely. Lara Logan did not. The mob of Arab men saw her and recognized her sluttitude immediately. I’ve never been to Muslim or Arab countries, but from what I understand, if you are a woman and you choose to rub your tits in a man’s face, then you will pay the consequences. We are used to it in the west, but they are not in the arab world. All she had to do was show a little respect, just a little. Cover her tits, don’t apply a pound of mascara and lipstick. But she did not, so now she is paying the price. Payback is a motherfucker.

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alpha February 16, 2011 at 11:40

I heard she was simply being called names while beaten – like whore, bitch etc…

Not a bit surprised

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Troll King February 16, 2011 at 11:41

Oh and guys let me point out a few other things here as well.

Egypt has one of the largest and most sucesssfull media centers in the middle east. Second maybe to Israel. You may not notice but if you live there and watch egyptian tv you would see hundreds of channels of music, news, movies(they export a large amout of Egyptian movies to other countries and some are actually really good, especially in the game or sexual dynamics dept. I remember watching one where the wife goes to her husbands work and starts a little bit of trouble and when he finds out he comes home and chases her around the house and grabs her, in a I love Lucy style, and takes her squeelng with a smile on her face into the bedroom for some implied you know what) and I would bet this is one reason so many progessives are hopefull for a democratic take over. It would give them, through the use of USAID dollars, a way to control the media of a large chunk of the middle east.

Also, in Egypt arabs will tell you that they are not africans or niggers(you can walk down the streets of Zemalak and here 50 cent bumpin in a Mercedes) because they are descended from the pharoahs who have lighter skin than all the Sudanese and Ghanan refugees who get rounded up by cops every now and then and most egyptians hate because they took the poor jobs from the poor. Look at my older comments on other articles about egypt. There was one long comment that I didn’t post cause my computer hiccup’d but I will try to re summarize it later. But, consider that Egyptians watch our movies and TV and they see how black men are worshipped and treated like shit at the same time. Then they are treated like shit by some girl that pops her tits in his face, he probably grew up in the poor rural areas, while he lavished her with attention only for her to get offended or scared or lowered in status and then she goes full bitch on him and what? He is treated like the lowest of the low in his country and in America too. Ontop of that he has Egyptian women doing western bitch mode lite and marching through the streets doing anti street harassment demonstrations and it comes together in a perfect storm of repressed sexual urges in a feminist created male sexual desert that exists for women to be able to control him and lower him even further on the status ladder while he, at the behest of women, has to work and compete even more only to see his high ranking male superiors get all the pussy while he isn’t even supposed to masturbate.

Remember what I said in one of my other posts(I think, unless that was the one my computer ate but you can find it on manboobz site under his attack on the previou SH article) and that is that in Egypt many women, a large chunk, are in their 30 and 40s still trying to get married. Their customs say that a man and even the woman these days should be able to buy a house to marry and move into. Think scarcity and how the introduction of the Euro made the Egyptian pound go from about 3:1 american dollars(3 pounds was worth 1 buck in the 90s) to a high of 8:1 american bucks. Their housing market crashed and so did their currency. Last I was there it had setted around 6 lbs to 1 dollar. Remember that they live on about 1% of their total land mass. Then there is corruption and even more if you walk around and look at the building you will see that most are unfinished and lack a roof. Many still have the metal bars sticking out. What they do is that when the building owners children(the upper class) marry they build another floor and give them a flat and rent or sell the other flats to pay for the one they just gave their kid.

The thing is that hypergamy travels through the cultural and economic landscape much faster in a third world country because they are 3rd world and lack a safety net and money trampoline to bounce up and down on until they hit hypergamic equilibrium on. These women fear never being able to marry because their boyfriends can’t make enough money to save for a house with their currency constantly being devalued. So they tell the men to man up and the men become more extreme to their western backed government and turn to the more radicalized aspects of Islam and those sects promise them what they want to hear and now they are getting close to getting in power. How it will all turn out is basically a coin toss. Many conservatives look at the radical elements but Egypts state religion has been Islam for a long time now.

I do really think it is interesting how this woman is being used in the media.

Another thing to consider is that Egypt practices Le Bize. This is typically only between women and women or men and men but it isn’t at uncommon for typical westernized Egyptians to try it in a less direct and non sexual manner with women. It freaked me out seeing how touchy feely the guys are with each other and the first time this sheesha bar waiter that used to sell me pot and hash and smoke me out grabbed me, put his arm around me, and kissed me on each cheek. Well, his mustache against my face and the shock of it all grossed me the fuck out. Me and my buds would make fun of boys our age walking around holding hands.

How do we know that this woman wasn’t acting like one of the guys, and in a celebration, that honestly looked like Egypt just won a title soccer cup(When I was there years ago I walked outside one day and thought it was a revolution but it turned out they just won a really important soccer game) and maybe one or two guys grabbed her and kissed her while in one big group hug? That is technically sexual assault in the west but they have completely different cultural rules around personal space and modesty. Now, IDK but it is possible if the group she was hanging out with wer college students educated in the US and living there or young westernized egyptians who have lived in the US and maybe have dual citizenship.

Let me put it this way. If they were wearin a galabea then this wouldn’t happen. If it was my buddy Tarek that I grew up with at the time, and his facebook profile has the protest flag up, like my other Egyptian friends, then he and his other native born but westernized and dual citizenship friends would have done something like grab her and kiss her twice on each cheek while shouting alla ackbar. To some dumb blonde ameriskank I imagine that would be terrifying and a great opportunity for attention whorin and political gain through a false rape claim.

Just some food for thought. Damn, my fuckin keyboard is fucking broke and every single time I hit a key I basically have to hit hard n slow or twice. Sorry for the misspellings…

TK

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Robert February 16, 2011 at 11:42

Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 11:08
It’s rich how feminist claim all men are rapists.

And then support sending in a very emotional Arab mob almost entirely of men, a very pretty blonde reporters, who are very much “the other” to these Arab men. It’s nuts.

She is an example of one of the “sacrificial lambs” . As I mentioned before. Feminists authorize certain women/girls to be sacrificed in the name of furthering their “personal and political/politicized agendas. Remember I-VAWA? They will more than likely use this story as an example of international violence against women/womyn, while accepting no responsibilty or accountabilty for their part/related part in what happened/allegedly happened to this female reporter.

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Firepower February 16, 2011 at 11:44

Lara

Tim,
Don’t worry, I’m guessing Lara wouldn’t give you a second look.

Yeah, Tim – you’d have to be a fat Liberal TV producer named Berg – to part Lara’s Lips.

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Robert February 16, 2011 at 11:46

I do not doubt there was not a feminist somewhere watching the news report and thinking/saying; ” You go grrrl, better you than me”, while sipping a cosmopolitan or strawberry dacquiri.

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 11:47

I really don’t think we know that she was gang raped.

The media reports are that she was brutally sexually assaulted.

You Mass. definition of rape is a very unusually broad one. Usually rape requires penile penetration of vagina or maybe ass. Other things done by force w/out consent are sexual assault, usually. Though that can be as minor as a single unwanted touch on the derriere – which is absurd.

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Novaseeker February 16, 2011 at 11:49

Looks like the knives are out on this story as well:
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2011/02/16/nir-rosen-resigns-from-nyu-after-trashing-lara-logan-on-twitter/

Have to literally silence any dissident thought on the matter, obviously.

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Lovekraft February 16, 2011 at 11:49

Muslim/arab/pakistani men have been doing this, and are continuing to do this, in Western countries for a long time. Part of their campaign of Soft Jihad.

Wake up! The fact it is getting attention now only speaks of the cowardice of mainstream media on an issue they ignored for far too long.

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Uncle Elmer February 16, 2011 at 11:57

duke February 16, 2011 at 09:29 : She has a nice rack.

They’re implants.

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Troll King February 16, 2011 at 11:58

Oh and one last thing before I have to run.

What is it that you thnk egyptian women want from western white feminists? There are many egyptian feminists and they even have similiar social theories taught at AUC. They rage at western feminists for claiming they are oppressed by the hijab but they still support them, why?

Let me tell you. I have dated westernized ones that grew up over there, I just checked one of my exs facebook profile and she has been active in the online aspects of the protests, and I have dated and been friends with more conservative ones. Ahhh, India I miss your tits. The thing both have in common is that they are part of the Egyptian womens movement. It actually goes back to the 20s. The thing they want is the power that they see western white women have over their men.

Think about submission, which is what Islam actually means, and how it is used in the BDSM kink scenes.

The sub is the one with the power over the dom. This is why scripts and safe words are used. The dom does what the sub wants, to the subs specifications, and when the sub says stop the dom stops. Kinda like trainin a dog to attack, huh? On the traditional side you have sub women with their veiled sexuaity, fun fact: in egypt the way veiled women flirt with you is to constantly re adjust their hijab infront of you while letting more and more of their hair line show which is kinda their cultural equivalent to a girl sticking her boobs in your face and asking you to buy her a beer, and the way they use that veiled sexuality and a male sexual vacuum to control men. The more feminists women, like one of my wiccan friends from HS who was half canadian and half arab, they just want the ability to act like men and boss the lower status men around like the high status men do.

Gotta go, be back later.
TK

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Troll King February 16, 2011 at 12:01

@ Robert

Don’t you follow the SATC crowd? Or Gossip Girl crowd or the new Skins or Jersey shore crowds.

If anything, the feminist was sipping a appletini. K?

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 12:03

Novaseeker–

The twit shouldn’t have resigned as a NYU fellow. I wouldn’t have.

I would have apologized for saying she was probably just groped if I found out she was severely sexually assaulted, but said I hadn’t realized. And left it at that.

F*cking out of control feminists and white knights.

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Rusty February 16, 2011 at 12:08

Women like this have been raping my country, civilization, culture, society and family for decades now. I feel no sympathy toward them when they get what’s coming to them. I’ll protect western women of virtue and be loyal to them wherever they prove they are loyal to me and mine. I say let’s send all the feminazis to the middle east.

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Nutz February 16, 2011 at 12:10

W.F. Price

Not so fast, Bill, it’s not at all clear that she was raped. In fact, think about it, how exactly do you rape a woman in the middle of an angry mob? Standing up? Hard to stay on mission with all the jostling. Lying down? You’d get stepped on or worse. I don’t buy it. More likely she was just slapped around and had a few fingers jammed where the sun don’t shine.

-Charles Martel

Well, I was under the impression that penetration = rape.

Here’s the Massachusetts definition:

Rape is also a legal term that is defined in Massachusetts by three elements:

-Penetration of ANY orifice by ANY object,

-Force or threat of force, or

-Sexual contact against the will of the victim.

I’ve noticed that even some feminists have been claiming that she wasn’t “really raped.” Under their own definition, and the somewhat more strict MA definition above, she was raped. But I definitely see your point. We don’t know whether anyone actually performed full on sexual intercourse with her, and it does seem kind of unlikely given the circumstances, but I wouldn’t rule it out. People can and will do pretty disgusting things in mobs — I’ve seen it first-hand.

On a side note, does anyone know if Massachusetts aired the Pepsi Max commerical from the Super Bowl that depicted a man’s mouth being “raped” with a bar of soap? Shouldn’t something be done about that, or at least point out the hypocrisy to their state’s legislature?

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evilwhitemalempire February 16, 2011 at 12:11

In my 20s? When I used to go to a bar in North Sydney? Walking back to my mates carrying beers meant women would feel up the family jewels as you walked across the bar area because your hands were full and there was little you could do about it. Conversely? Does ANY man here think that women would accept a man feeling up a womans vagina or breasts pretty much EVERY time they walked across a bar area with their hands full?

Say’s everything you need to know about women’s ‘inequality’ to men.

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W.F. Price February 16, 2011 at 12:13

Looks like the knives are out on this story as well:
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2011/02/16/nir-rosen-resigns-from-nyu-after-trashing-lara-logan-on-twitter/

Have to literally silence any dissident thought on the matter, obviously.

-Novaseeker

Good link

Feminists have been posting talking points on this one.

Here’s an example:

What not to say about Lara Logan

“Thou shalt not speake what feminists suffereth thee not to utter”

Novaseeker February 16, 2011 at 12:13

@Doug1 –

Exactly. Looks like the white knights (conservative ones) were the ones to cause a ruckus and the feminists (Karen J. Greenberg, Executive Director, Center on Law and Security) were the ones to score the coup de grace.

I doubt he “resigned”. That’s a forced resignation if there ever was one, as you can tell from “Karen J. Greenberg’s” missive.

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Novaseeker February 16, 2011 at 12:22

Heh, Bill, but they can’t stop it from being said. It’s been said all over the internet for the past 48 hours. In a way, it kind of reflects that on at least some levels, feminist propaganda about rape has not sunk in — such that people do very much take into account circumstances, not to excuse the crime, but to question the judgment of the victim.

I’ve often said that imagine if I, as a white guy, were to walk down a main street at night in Anacostia dressed in a white robe shouting “Niggers suck!”. A very good likelihood that I would be assaulted or worse. The assault would be a crime, of course. But almost everyone, everyone would say that I was stupid to be doing that, and many would also suggest that I deserved to be assaulted for being so stupid.

Circumstances matter. They don’t remove the guilt for the crime, but they do matter in terms of how people view the victim. Always has been so, and always will be so. That’s why the feminists insisted on rape shield rules — circumstances matter, and juries tend to have less sympathy for slutty women than they do for non-slutty women. That’s still the case, of course, which is why the feminists fought for rape shield. But in the world of press, there is no rape shield. History matters, judgment matters, circumstances matter — all of it matters in the court of public opinion. As the media has veered away from a few small, controlled channels to a widespread array on the internet, the ability of feminist thought police to stop this has waned greatly. The bloggers are simply saying what everyone is thinking — terrible that this happened,

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Novaseeker February 16, 2011 at 12:24

but WTF was she doing.

Pretty much most people think that, even women, other than die-feminist ideologues. If we think it, we should be able to say it. Damn Salon and their Stalinist thought police.

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 12:25

From naema / Uncle elmer’s link:

One source said: “[Lara Logan] caused ill feeling by going to the galley, the marines’ canteen, in a top with an extremely plunging neckline. “To be honest half her boobs were hanging out.

“A marine was so furious he stood up and shouted, ?That isn’t fair! Some of us have been out here away from women for months’. Then he complained.

***

It wasn’t the first time her dress out here has caused offence.

“She spent most of her time wearing very tight jeans and tops with spaghetti-style straps.

“You’d have thought she would have had more sense on a base full of thousands of men.”

There are 1,700 troops, including 800 marines, stationed at Bagram for the war on al-Qa’ida terrorists.

An officer warned ex-swimsuit model Lara she had upset the men and should cover up.

The source said: “She went absolutely mad and stormed off, saying she was leaving the airbase.

“She said she was fed up with its ?sexist atmosphere’ and didn’t like the attention from the troops.

“That was a joke, she seemed to lap it up. She was always posing for photos like a forces sweetheart and signing autographs.”

She was doing this stuff to get exclusives, etc.. It backfired.

What an entitled little cock teasing piece of work.

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slwerner February 16, 2011 at 12:28

Tim – “I don’t know if she has a husband”

She was divorce in 2008, following her affairs with two other men while in Iraq

“Passions got so hot in the combat zone that one of her lovers, Joe Burkett, brawled in a Baghdad “safe house” with her other paramour, CNN war reporter Michael Ware…
She has been going through a divorce from her husband of nine years, Jason Siemon”

Of course, prior to her two (known) affairs, she caused some controversy when she was flaunting herself about in front of enlisted men
“Two Royal Marines made official complaints about married Lara at Bagram and top brass ordered her to cover up”

Apparently, she’s long been one to use and abuse her sexuality, her own marital status not withstanding.

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W.F. Price February 16, 2011 at 12:31

If we think it, we should be able to say it. Damn Salon and their Stalinist thought police.

-Novaseeker

Oh, it shall be said. Every time feminists have any success in intimidating “right thinking” people it gives this site a boost, because I then get to apply the “agree and amplify” technique to their own shit tests.

SingleDad February 16, 2011 at 12:33

What a skank, here are her affairs:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/26/lara-logan-michael-ware-i_n_109331.html

Maybe the title: “Home Wrecker Get’s Karmic Justice” is more appropriate.

And these affairs were a big deal at the time. Egyptian men can read. It is entirely likely they knew exactly who she was and her previous shameful behaviour may have been the spark that got the crowd moving against her.

It’s as likely as a bunch of freedom fighting Egyptian men, decided, mid riot, to take a break and “get some”.

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Firepower February 16, 2011 at 12:33

W.F. Price February 16, 2011 at 12:13

Here’s an example:

What not to say about Lara Logan

You shouldn’t worry about what predictable tactics Socialist Liberal magazines like Salon publish.

You should target them for destruction. wgaf what Salon says anymore. They’re like Tookie Williams.

Throw the switch.

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Keyster February 16, 2011 at 12:34

Yes, as pointed out, “sexual assault” by definition is groping her tits and ass. As they were doing this they were yelling “JEW!, JEW!, JEW!”, it’s suspected they were a band of Muslim Brotherhood troublemakers.

She wasn’t just with her crew either, she had an Egyptian security detail around her as well. Even before all this, when you visited Egypt as a tourist you are assigned security people, whether you want it or not. It’s not a place a westerner just goes and freely walks around in on the best of days.

Anderson Cooper got smacked around to and he got no sympathy. What’s the difference?

Ms. Logan is now out of the hospital and said to be in good spirits.

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Novaseeker February 16, 2011 at 12:35

She was doing this stuff to get exclusives, etc.. It backfired.

What an entitled little cock teasing piece of work

She’s also a homewrecker — her second husband is guy she started having an affair with on assignment in Baghdad whose wife was back in Texas, while Logan herself was having a thing with another CNN reporter.

She’s definitely the type of woman who gets around. Doesn’t excuse the assault, of course, but it does impact my sympathy level for her. Karma can really be a bitch at times, I think.

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Novaseeker February 16, 2011 at 12:38

Apparently, she’s long been one to use and abuse her sexuality, her own marital status not withstanding.

Exactly, slw.

My understanding is that her divorce didn’t follow the affairs but was started before, not completed before she went to Iraq. And get this. The contractor guy (who was married to someone else at the time) — one of the two lovers in Baghdad — married her. I can’t imagine why a man would do that, really, but stupid decisions are made every day.

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Firepower February 16, 2011 at 12:40

lmfao – this adulterous whore and her adulterous lovers getting into NOISY fights in Arabic countries.

WAY TO LAY LOW
so the Mujahideen DON’T toss a grenade into your portable espresso maker/AC unit while you’re fighting about pussy.

More Western “wishful thinking” about how safe foreign countries “should” be.

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 12:42

Long story short, she was a fool to go out into that mob, and doubly so dressed at all provocatively by Egyptian standards.

I personally don’t feel anger at the mob — mobs can become rather beasts.

Instead while I don’t exactly feel she deserved what she she got, I sort of shrug my shoulders.

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 12:50

Skadi–

And, from what I read she had flings with married men, which is totally unacceptable and which I condemn very strongly

In Iraqi she had an affair with a married man (a defense contractor) while simultaneously having a fling with another reporter. She then married the married man after he divorced his wife to marry her. She subsequently has had a child with him.

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 12:55

Oh. First she gets preggers from Joe Burkett, then marries him.

Hope he had a paternity test done.

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 12:59

Lara February

I second Skadi on that one. Aren’t there any guys out there that still like bad girls?

I do. But not to marry, live with, or to fall in love with. To pump and dump, have flings with or treat as fuck buddies.

I’m all but sure she cheats on her husband. Or will.

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 12:59

She is gorgeous though.

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CSPB February 16, 2011 at 12:59

She has a young child at home and then she gallivant to Cairo where she flaunts her goods in defiance of common sense and Mideastern propriety in the midst of thousands of men in a protest/quasi-riot.

What kind of shit-for-brains hamster does she have toiling away?

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 13:01

Skadi

I would rather die than be raped in that way.

I don’t believe you.

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Firepower February 16, 2011 at 13:02

Lara

What’s wrong with a woman having two lovers?

One CHUMP has to pay for the inseminator’s spawn…

Caveman, you know. Back when we used to kill interlopers.

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Firepower February 16, 2011 at 13:05

Skadi February 16, 2011 at 12:52

“… this adulterous whore and her adulterous lovers..”

How sanctimonious you are, you must be clean as a crystal or a child’s tear.

No. It’s called “loyalty” – a virtue all women have forgot.
Men practice loyalty every day via OATHS.
You saw a lot of them fulfill it in bodybags.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) February 16, 2011 at 13:05

Welmer,
it says

“a liberal journalist is taking heat for offensive”

LOL! AND he is a fellow at a University….NYU it claims. My thoughts?

COULD NOT HAPPEN TO A NICER MANGINA.

What about HIS freedom of speech? Nope. Even though he is an obvious suck up to the wimminz they throw him under a bus the first time ever POINTS OUT THE TRUTH. Notice how they called the remarks ‘offensive’ and NOT UNTRUE.

“If you do not believe in freedom of speech for those you despise you do not believe in it at all.” Voltaire.

Compare this to the nurse who, when I had a hole in my spinal cord caused by an incompetent woman, and was strapped to the bed, and had not eaten for 24 hours and she was refusing to feed me for 12 more hours called me a CHILD! This is not only FALSE but one might argue that it’s pretty offensive. Especially since THAT WAS HER JOB AND I WAS PAYING HER TO DO IT VIA MY HEALTH CARE.

More hypocrisy from women. And they are EATING THEIR OWN. I’d like to see a few MORE university fellows thrown under the bus for their support of these whining harpies over the years.

“She was subsequently rescued by a group of women and Egyptian soldiers, flew home the next day, and is currently recovering in a hospital. All of which is a horrendous, sickening crime.”

Oh? Really? Did she have her children kidnapped? Did she have her house stolen? Did she have everything she worked for taken off her against her will? Was she cast into poverty? Will she have 50% of her net future income stolen off her? Will she be treatened with jail if she doesn’t pay? Will she be living in the back of her car or a caravan? No? What happened to Logan is a ‘sickening crime’ but what happens to MILLIONS of men is just A-f***ing-OK.

THANKS LADIES. WE GET IT. YOU HATE US.

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Firepower February 16, 2011 at 13:05

Doug1

She is gorgeous though.

Hey, what red-blooded Egyptian wouldn’t want to fuck her on a car hood?

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SingleDad February 16, 2011 at 13:07

She was attractive.

Now, she is a shriveled pre-menapausal skank.

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Novaseeker February 16, 2011 at 13:08

Novaseeker,
I read that the man that divorced his wife to be with Lara was having marital problems anyway. His marriage was essentially over and Lara just happened to be there.

LOL. Everyone having an affair has marital problems. May as well excuse all adultery under your standard. She just happened to be riding his cock, thereby hammering the nails in the coffin of his marriage (and yes there was a small kid involved, too). Disgusting.

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Bill Brasky February 16, 2011 at 13:11

So Firepower can call her an “adulterous whore”, but “stupid whore” is just crossing the line, huh?

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Firepower February 16, 2011 at 12:40
More Western “wishful thinking” about how safe foreign countries “should” be.

Yep. I was in Saudi when they blew up the compounds just before the war started. As the first explosions shook my apartment I simply went and laid in the bathtub.That’s the best I could do. I figured our compound could be next. I was real sorry I didn’t have a gun. But they didn’t blow our place up.

About a week later one of the other project managers limped into the office with a big wad of dressing over his ear too. I asked him what the dressing on his ear was for and he said “I was standing too close to a bomb when it went off. Perforated my eardrum”. And I said, so why are you limping. And he said “Because the f***er shot me in the leg as well”. I asked him why he was back to work so soon…I mean…take a few days off man! You EARNED it.

His answer? “I have four kids. I have to feed them.” Simple as.

Now men? Show of hands? How many of you have seen a WOMAN IT PROJECT MANAGER with a perforated eardrum from a bomb and a bullet wound in the leg come back to work in just ONE WEEK? Please don’t over-run the site with all your examples, eh? ;-)

One of the guys at our compound worked for BAE. They shot him dead at an auto-teller. So the word went around. “Don’t hang out with the BAE guys.”

They make a BIG deal out of a whore who goes out asking for trouble. And they take NO NOTICE of the fact that 93% of workplace dead are men. When are women going to start dying for a living like men have always done?

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 13:18

Novaseeker–

I doubt he “resigned”. That’s a forced resignation if there ever was one, as you can tell from “Karen J. Greenberg’s” missive.

Yeah I realize.

What I meant was that I’d make them go through whatever their process is. If there’s a hearing I’m not sure I wouldn’t be able to prevail. After all the only hard information was that she was sexually assaulted which can indeed mean groping – or a whole lot worse.

The whole PC “insensitive” thing is way out of control.

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Opus February 16, 2011 at 13:24

I see that Lara and Skadi are on their rationalisation wheel and running at full speed. …and demonstrating as we always thought that when it comes down to it, TeamVagina always stick together and are prepared to use any argument no matter how insane or annoying to do so.

…but Lara, your question to single dad (which has as much relevance as the price of butter) is what we here usually call ‘shaming language’ and do not approve of atall. The reality is that if single dad said he was at it every night for the last year with a different skank you’d blame him for that too. Anyway he must have done it with someone once because he is a dad whereas you see I am in the singular and may be virgo intacta still.

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anon February 16, 2011 at 13:25

I am sure she knew the risks when she took the job. Reporters get beaten, jailed and killed all the time. She took a risk and in this siutation it crapped out. Aren’t you complaining that women do not take enough risk?

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 13:25

No matter how a woman is dressed, even if she is naked, it does NOT justify a man raping her.

Sorry, no. Don’t fully agree.

If a girl gets tips and drunk at a party and strip teases naked, and then guys f*ck her without her consent but without her suddenly fighting as hard as she can to get away, I’m simply not going to vote for rape on a jury. She was provoking the guys beyond reason in a situation that could obviously get out of hand.

Same thing if she strips completely for a guy in his room.

Radical feminists have just pushed it too damn far.

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piercedhead February 16, 2011 at 13:26

What I wonder is how feminists can square their declared desire to eliminate violence against women with their demands that women be placed in situations where they will inevitably get hurt.

Should we really care?

I recently saw a Mexican guy being interviewed about his decision to hire a 20 year old female criminology student as police chief, after all her predecessors had been killed by drug barons and no-one else wanted the job. The interviewer asked him if he was being irresponsible by hiring her. He replied “the job is no more dangerous for her than anybody else”.

That’s the spirit of someone free of any white knight genes.

Personally, I don’t care any more that this woman got gang-raped than if she had been a man who had suffered a severe beating. It’s lamentable, but nothing a stranger should lose sleep over.

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piercedhead February 16, 2011 at 13:29

Personally, I don’t care any more that this woman got gang-raped than if she had been a man who had suffered a severe beating. It’s lamentable, but nothing a stranger should lose sleep over.

I should add that simply expressing regret like this is actually more than the vast majority of women ever relate when a man is brutally killed in the doing of his job.

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Novaseeker February 16, 2011 at 13:29

What I meant was that I’d make them go through whatever their process is. If there’s a hearing I’m not sure I wouldn’t be able to prevail. After all the only hard information was that she was sexually assaulted which can indeed mean groping – or a whole lot worse.

The whole PC “insensitive” thing is way out of control.

@Doug1 –

Absolutely. It’s a ridiculous atmosphere of instant witch-hunting. Same as what happened to Juan Williams, but he did get some semblance of justice after the fact, at least (though I think higher heads should have rolled for that at NPR).

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V3N0M1300 February 16, 2011 at 13:30

Can stop posting missing white woman stories? I’m sure there’s plenty of male victims of violence you could be talking about instead. Let the dearies reap what they’ve sown.

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 13:31

Skadi–

Lara, there’s nothing wrong with having two lovers, if they know about each other

Well the guy she ended up marrying certainly wasn’t ok about it. He found out and got into a brawl with the reporter she was also having a fling with. Around this time I think it was she got preggers.

It means the girl’s is a clear slut.

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west_coast February 16, 2011 at 13:34

Skadi, why exactly should women be protected in “civilized” socities? We man pay taxes as well you know, more if you take the “deductions” women in general and mothers in particular, and never seem to demand much from the state. Learn your geography Egypt is as “civilized” as Israel. They are just tired of all the exploitation that have been happenning to them for the last 30+ years.
Remember eventhough it is being tried to be shown as solidarity between women, hence the “…group of women and 20 soldiers”, CNN reporter Anderson Cooper was also “attacked” a few weeks ago. There are just some things you never do in Arab states if you are a sluttily dressed American woman one of them is you never give critical opinions as facts while the men are standing right behind you!!!!
These are nations where feminists tried their best to have an American style approach for half a century and have failed miserably, regected both by the men and women. Trust me I have lived in that part of the world for half my life.

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 13:35

Lara –

What’s wrong with a woman having two lovers?

It’s ok if she’s just my fuck buddy. Otherwise not.

Quality girls only can only enjoy having sex with one man at at time, because they only enjoy having sex with a man they have deep feelings for.

Sluts tend to mannishly divorce sex from love. And in fact usually can’t love very deeply or for very long after awhile. They can feel loving affection often enough, which they’ll call love. But the bond is shallow.

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 13:37

Lara–

btw, this woman is no saint and personally I don’t care. She probably has moxy and I admire her for that.

I’d definitely do her. And she’d probably be a ton of fun to have a fling with in some foreign outpost. But I’d avoid falling in love with her like the plague.

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continent February 16, 2011 at 13:41

NYU accepts resignations of a reporter who had been critical of Laura Logan coverage. Link:
http://theothermccain.com/2011/02/16/nyu-fires-nir-rosen-liberal-writer-who-slammed-lara-logan-as-war-monger/

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Single Dad–

And these affairs were a big deal at the time. Egyptian men can read. It is entirely likely they knew exactly who she was and her previous shameful behaviour may have been the spark that got the crowd moving against her.

Interesting point.

They can certainly watch al Jazzerra.

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Gx1080 February 16, 2011 at 13:53

Decided to skim the Islam-revenge fantasies.

I could tell with just a look that she sucked soldier cock and I was right!

Is a chaotic upheval of a bunch of angry, backward pissants, what did she espected to happen? Dear, just because you get fucked by a soldier, doesn’t mean that you are as tough as one.

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TFH February 16, 2011 at 13:53

Note that she was deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan for almost a decade, without incident.

I’m not sure how she ended up in the mob, however. It is not like she does not understand the region – she understands it quite well.

She is 38 now, but a few years ago (age 30), she was a solid 8.5 or 9.

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continent February 16, 2011 at 13:56

NYP profiles Lara Logan. Link:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/item_eyjZaCHJvKzu3a1xlv6ECP

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Falsely Accused Soldier February 16, 2011 at 14:00

@Skadi

This is from a post you wrote about 30 posts back.

“I’m actually pleasantly surprised that there aren’t more reports of rapes. The Egyptian men seem to be rather civil.”

Other news organizations pulled alot of their female staff away from the main center of the protests, Tahrir Square. Fox news had two of their male reporters beaten by a gang as well.

As far as Egyptian on Egyptian crime, their politics are vastly different. Their society is tribal with strong religous overtones. For an Egyptian to rape an Egyptian woman the honor killings that would soon follow from the woman’s tribe wouldn’t be worth it. Upon hearing of the crime most Egyptians would consider it none of their business(stopping the revenge).

This happened to her because of the way she was dressed and where she was. Egyptians were a little mad at some of the west’s support of Mubarak and here is this petite ex-model blond, with a plunging neckline, C-cups, Jewelry and make-up. A practical shining light of the west. Or being dumb enough to not hire an Egyptian who knows what the different groups look like. She stumbled near a group of radicals not knowing the country or its people all that well.

“I would rather die than be raped.”

No you wouldn’t, having lost several friends to violence in the Middle East. Some with permanent life long injuries that are only going to get worse over time were at first depressed. Now they are happy they are alive.

Or as my one friend put it when he got hit by a mortar and started blacking out as my other friends were working on him.
(para phrasing)
“I just felt myself start to go and I just saw my whole family. I felt so sad I couldn’t be with them. I started to fade and I was so sad I wouldn’t see my daughters grow up. I just stared at the hole in the tent and I thought this can’t be it, then I blacked out.”

He is incredibly grateful to be alive today. So that statement is garbage, you don’t know what your talking about.

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Novaseeker February 16, 2011 at 14:03

Hey, TFH.

Note that she was deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan for almost a decade, without incident.

I think there are some links upthread about a series of complaints at Bagram airbase due to her inappropriate attire and behavior. The difference was that she was around Western men, not Arabs. The Brits complained about her behavior, though.

I’m not sure how she ended up in the mob, however. It is not like she does not understand the region – she understands it quite well.

My guess is that it was a calculated career move that backfired.

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 14:04

Skadi–

We’re talking about romantic relationships here, and there are plenty of cheaters among men too. This seems to be some sort of a modus vivendi for quite a few people, both men and women. But who are we to judge them.

Male cheating is a whole lot less serious, because men who cheat are far less likely to leave their wives than the other way around, especially when they have minor children at home. Burkett did for Lara Logan, but then she was preggers. Which it wouldn’t surprise me was actually an oops pregnancy. She was 37 or 38 at the time. Clock ticking loudly.

Female cheating tends to dissolve her feelings of sexual attraction and of being “in love” with her husband. Yeah they may have diminished anyway as a prelude to her cheating, but female cheating if the sex is real good and she starts to fall for new guy, tends to completely and totally dissolve her desire to have sex w/her husband.

Not so with male cheating. Sometimes the reverse and he wants sex with his wife more, but is less desperate about it, so better able to seduce her into it. Men are by natural inclination, polygamous. Women at least if they’re not real sluts, are by natural inclination monogamous or serially monogamous. Female cheating kicks it to serial very often.

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 14:10

Novaseeker–

Yeah. Agree on Juan Williams.

(though I think higher heads should have rolled for that at NPR).

Actually I think they did — though on a very delayed fuse and dissociated from his firing, which is NOT how they do it for supposed violations of PC. I believe I read that the female head of NPR or the one who made that decision was let go a few months later. It was said to be unrelated I think.

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 14:15

Skadi–

Doug, she wouldn’t do you. She’s not as slutty as it appears, it’s all blown out of proportion. The strong, free, independent women only sleep with those they have set their eyes upon.

Oh I don’t know. She might. Though I agree with your last sentence, when the woman’s as hot as this one. Though I’m sure most of the photos which are easily findable through google are when she’s all dolled up for TV or some event, and most are from awhile ago.

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 14:18

Lara–

I can’t really blame her, if I was her age and didn’t have kids I would want a baby badly also.

Doing that without the guys consent and especially if she lies about birth control is morally wrong. It should also absolve him of any obligation to pay child support, if he doesn’t want to marry her.

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Falsely Accused Soldier February 16, 2011 at 14:20

@Novaseeker

I’m not sure how she ended up in the mob, however. It is not like she does not understand the region – she understands it quite well.

Those regions are vastly different.

For example a Syrian/Saudia Arabian etc. Freedom Fighter goes to Iraq. Your doing a patrol through a crowd, do you spot him?

However all the Iraqi’s would be able to point him out to you. Kind of like a good friend of mine Allegria who is Mexican. He could point out to me every Puerto Rican in a crowd based on physical features or attitude and to this day I don’t know how he does it.

Saying she was in Iraq or Afghanistan for 10 years means absolutely nothing. I assure you when she did go out she was embedded with troops and chronicled their actions. It’s not like she was outside the green zone in Baghdad with a cameraman and a interpreter(terp).

We would use our terps constantly to figure out who was who just by appearance alone.

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Uncle Elmer February 16, 2011 at 14:21

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/lara-logan-egypt-5219471

Folks, read this and associated links.

She was detained and hassled in Egypt earlier this month and chose to return despite obvious dangers.

Now seriously, if a country was unstable, the government being toppled, and the Army seeking to establish control, do you loudly badmouth that Army (however justified) then seek to enter that country and broadcast freely without getting harassed?

There are times to keep a very low profile and this was one of them. If gangsters are in control of a situation you had better watch your mouth and activities.

I admire her journalism, perhaps not her methods for getting to the story. She’s been over there for 10 years so is very experienced in this trade. Combat journalism is exceedingly dangerous; toss in a penchant for self-promotion and you have a good recipe for getting killed.

Icarus comes to mind.

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 14:22

Lara

I could have two lovers, but one would be for practical reasons and one would be for love and passion

That’s called cuckolding and edges into the fetish meaning of it. You’d likely be in love with your lover and “love” your cuckolded husband, as a provider and father.

That makes you an abysmal choice for a wife, even with a prenup that mimics living together in the event of a divorce.

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Novaseeker February 16, 2011 at 14:25

I’m not sure how she ended up in the mob, however. It is not like she does not understand the region – she understands it quite well.

I actually didn’t write that piece, TFH did, although I did respond to it.

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Richard P-Man February 16, 2011 at 14:29

Holy Crap – did you read that article on salon:

“She was subsequently rescued by a group of women and Egyptian soldiers”

group of WOMEN and SOLDIERS – not MEN.

That speaks volumes doesn’t it!

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 14:30

Skadi–

Besides, what you describe was not the case with Logan.

Never said it was.

I was simply reacting to extremist feminist statement that ‘even if a woman strips naked, it’s still a crime to rape her’.

As far as I’m concerned, and I think a lot of jurors, that will depend on the context — but often not really be true. It’s just to provoking and asking for it a thing to do. I’d cult men a ton of slack as to reading her intentions in that situation in many contexts, such as at a drunken party, of if she does it alone with a guy in his room. A simple no isn’t going to cut it for me then. Period.

Now on a nude beach the context is different. Then if a guy ignores a bunch of nos and stops it’s gonna be rape. Though I still think for a girl to go alone to a totally nude beach, is really asking for it. Unless maybe the beach is really crowded and she’s in a crowded area. Because there’s an ethic on nude beaches and most who go there used to what a female being nude doesn’t signal.

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Porky D. February 16, 2011 at 14:34

Alcuin wrote…
“When I studied in university a woman claimed to have been gang-raped. After telling the story, she acquired a certain authority. She was at the top of the feminist hierarchy (yes, they have a hierarchy too). Her word was gold because of her rape. It was never even verified if she had in fact been raped.”

The most famous example of this is Tori Amos. After her rather unlikely rape story came out – conveniently at the time Little Earthquakes was released – she was able to pontificate on men and women, as if the supposed rape made her an expert on men.

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 14:36

Skadi –

Doug, I wasn’t talking about biological differences but about romantic and moral principles. And from that perspective, it doesn’t matter what sex you are.

I think it does matter from a moral perspective as well. People lie all the time, including to their spouses. Little white lies or not very consequential ones aren’t very morally consequential either. How much consequence cheating is likely to have I think should and does impact how immoral it is.
So yes I think there are gender differences there.

Before first wave feminism, women really rather expected husbands of high status who were good with women to have some dalliences after awhile. The horror at it is really largely a feminist creation. I’m not saying female jealousy isn’t built in, but I am saying it can be and is amplified or it can be damped down by culture. (It’s even possible to eroticize it esp. with somewhat masochistic girls, but that takes skillz.)

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SingleDad February 16, 2011 at 14:43

She was not brave, she is privileged.

She thought, like in her native land, where all men are slaves, she would be treated like the royalty that she believes her gender conveys on her.

If they had taken her hostage, possibly quite a few US soldeirs would be risking their lives right now rescuing her bony arse.

And think of the international implications of such a situation, with a very unstable country already on the outs with the US, controlling the Suez canal and then we have to send in troops to rescue this skank.

She did this to advance her career. She is an opportunist who thought she was better than those around her. A privileged white woman.

She will probably be given a major anchor job for this, she’s milking it for all it’s worth.

Heroic my arse.

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Porky D. February 16, 2011 at 14:48

As for Logan, it is very unfortunate but it’s hard to know how sorry i should feel for her given that we don’t know exactly what happened. The CBS statement doesn’t even mention rape, just “a brutal and sustained sexual assault.” Given how loose the meaning of “brutal” and “sexual assault” have become this could mean they shoved her around and felt her up for a few minutes. That’s bad, but a lot better than an actual gang rape.

And don’t you love the way the CBS statement puts the women before the 20 soldiers? This does two things. It frames this as a men vs women incident, and it makes the women look like the primary rescuers, because as we all know a few unarmed women are far scarier than 20 men with M16s!

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 14:51

Falsely Accused Soldier–

and here is this petite ex-model blond, with a plunging neckline, C-cups, Jewelry and make-up.

Now wait just a damn minute.

I beg to differ.

The Brits say she’s got D’s.

Looks like it to me too.

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 15:08

Skadi–

“..even if a woman strips naked, it’s still a crime to rape her”

Of course, it is. You can try to hit on her, but you absolutely may not rape her. You should be able to control your impulses.

She should be able to control her’s and her reckless attention seeking actions which signal to most men that she wants to be f*cked, and signals it strong. Regardless of feminist bullsh*te and propaganda.

Like I said it depends on context. It says one thing on a nude beach and other at a drunken wild party, or alone in a guy’s room. She’s provoking guys beyond belief. A simple no or stop from her, unless may screamed repeatedly at the top of her lungs combined with fighting to get away and get her clothes as hard as she can, won’t bring a felony rape jury vote from me.

I’ll refuse to send the guys to jail for that. She was asking for it simply too much, and expecting way to much of them and their dispassionate thinking.

Further I’ll blame her and say about they guys that it’s pretty damn understandable. Not ideal behavior no, but felony rape? Nope.

Feminists are pushing it way to far.

She can simple not strip nude in a raucous atmosphere, or before I guy that she knows is dying to do her and who she’s been leading on all night.

Nope, no rape vote from me.

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Omnipitron February 16, 2011 at 15:09

I see that Lara and Skadi are on their rationalisation wheel and running at full speed. …and demonstrating as we always thought that when it comes down to it, TeamVagina always stick together and are prepared to use any argument no matter how insane or annoying to do so.

And further proves that most women are incapable of holding down positions of responsibility. Cause and effect is key to responsibility, pretty clear most women don’t comprehend this very vital concept and are clearly unable to take car of even themselves.

If a male manager had refused to let her go out into the highly emotional mob he would have been attacked by feminist journalists and feminists generally for paternalism and being patriarchal. If she hadn’t gone out into the mob she wouldn’t have been raped, so hindsight wouldn’t have been available.

So there’s a strong tendency not to make those sorts of judgments, that’s directly attributable to feminist delusions.

Which is precisely why our predecessors didn’t listen to women or give them much credence. They are impossible to please and as TFH states, have very poor understanding of cause and effect. In the past, issues like this didn’t happened very often because women where told things where too dangerous for them, and they where smart enough to listen even if they didn’t like it.

No matter how a woman is dressed, even if she is naked, it does NOT justify a man raping her.

Case in point, and one of the members of team vagina (nice one Opus) has actually spoken about the very same mistake Lara made.
Anyone read Nova’s take on being dressed a certain way and spouting off racist rhetoric? Whether it’s justified or not is irrelevant, don’t poke the bear.

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 15:17

Skadi–

The crucial part is the intent, not the results or consequences, which are important, but not as vital as the very fact of breaking a principle. What matters the most is the intention that originates within the free, moral agent.

I’m not a moral absolutist and I doubt you are too on most things. You just abhor as nearly all women living in post feminist societies do the idea of any kind of double standard on cheating — though there’s always been one in the West as well as the rest of the world until feminism, curses be upon it.

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 15:24

Skadi–

Put differently, if a girl strip teases naked at a drunken party, I’m gonna cut guys who say yeah maybe she did say no or stop ant one point, but she wasn’t screaming it like she really meant it, and it seemed like it was all part of her game of putting up a slight amount of resistance to make the sex really hot for her too — I’m gonna give the guy the benefit of the doubt. And not vote rape. Girls who don’t want involuntary sex should strip naked at a drunken party, or alone in the room of a guy that really wants her and who she’s been flirting with all night.

Girls have some responsibility too, contra feminists.

Now if this was some paid or amateur stripper and it’s clear that that was pre-planned and expected to go no further, and the guys force sex on her, that’s different. That’s rape. It was or should have been clear to the guys what the boundaries were and that she wasn’t inviting them to be crossed.

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Omnipitron February 16, 2011 at 15:25

She thought, like in her native land, where all men are slaves, she would be treated like the royalty that she believes her gender conveys on her.

If they had taken her hostage, possibly quite a few US soldeirs would be risking their lives right now rescuing her bony arse.

Agreed Single Dad, women love exceptions and never fully consider the full ramifications of anything. The worst this woman probably expected (if she even thought that far which is doubtful) was that she could possibly get kidnapped and that soldiers would rescue her like Jennifer Lynch.

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Anonymous February 16, 2011 at 15:30

Get this off the MSNBC site:
“Logan was ultimately saved by a group of Egyptian women and around 20 soldiers. After reconnecting with her crew, she returned to the United States on Saturday.”

…. saved by a group of women, oh yeah I’m sure and I bet they did the fighting while the soldiers hung back…

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ActaNonVerba February 16, 2011 at 15:50

I don’t take this story at face value at all. Lara Logan’s stock has? gone down since her recent big mouth AND femme fatale homewrecking ways have come to light. It would be VERY convenient for Logan to exaggerate if not outright lie in order to deflect criticism and become a sympathy case. I’m sure SOMETHING happened. Maybe everything she says happened actually happened. But, I don’t take it at face value.

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 15:59

Skadi–

Btw, guys want girls to put out and “dress and act sexy”. Many guys would be very disappointed if girls stopped doing it.

I didn’t say a girl’s dressing sexy gave random guys, or her date, the right to have sex with her despite her saying no.

What I’ve said is that a girl’s strip teasing naked at some wild party, or when she and her date are both tipsy in his room after a date out, is going to be interepreted by many, many guys as an ok to have sex, and mild no’s or stops aren’t going to be taken as something she’s really serious about by a great many guys who are actually in that situation and tipsy.

And I’m saying I understand that and won’t vote for felony rape in such a situation period.

The girl was asking for it, putting too much of the burden on the guy, and I’m sympathetic to his misinterpreting the situation. Very in fact. And not sympathetic to the girl at all. Whether you like it or not. And yeah I say this publicly.

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namae nanka February 16, 2011 at 15:59

“Many guys would be very disappointed if girls stopped doing it.”

In your case they will be thankful.

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Doug1 February 16, 2011 at 16:04

Skadi–

If I see a man fluctuating on such basic issues as fidelity, and trying to rationalize and find a theoretical excuse for cheating, that’s a red flag.

I don’t fluctuate and I don’t cheat. I don’t promise complete sexual fidelity. I do promise love fidelity sometimes, as with my current live together relationships. However I also don’t fall in love with girls who aren’t faithful in both ways to me. Well my M and I have done some fmf threesomes, she generally picks the girl, or we both do, with both of us having vetos. Oh and she has a veto over any particular other girl. Not that I do that that much these days.

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David K. Meller February 16, 2011 at 16:10

As with the aforementioned rape of the female Corrections “officer”, the disgust and outrage about what happened to the little journalista pretending to be ‘one of the boys’, interacting with a crowd of protestors–or their enemies–in nightime Cairo is compromised badly by her (and her employer’s) total want of good sense!

I don’t know what to do–maybe sending Hillary Clinton, Gloria Allred, Barbara Boxer, Whoopi Goldburg, Maaury Povich, Jerry Springer and Katherine McKinnnon and likeminded Americans(?) to Cairo to give the men in that mob feminist “sensitivity training” might help! Or it might not!

LOL!

PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller

PS–Whatever happens, at least we Americans will be rid of that mob of feminists here for a while! DKM

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TFH February 16, 2011 at 16:11

Novaseeker,

Yeah, she was known to slut it up with other high-status men that she came in contact with. She was the only attractive female foreign correspondent there (Christiane Amanpour not being much competition) and maxed her hypergamous urges.

Note that a lot of women have the sort of dangerous fantasies that would lead someone like Lara Logan, arguably at or past her WEC moment, to take risks based on where gina tingles led her.

Going into a mob where testosterone was in the air could have been a gina-tingle autopilot move.

Unfortunate, though.

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SingleDad February 16, 2011 at 16:23

OT:

Look at this picture perfect mom:

“A Florida mother who allegedly shot and killed her teenage children for “talking back” pleaded not guilty Wednesday to the crimes.

Julie Schenecker, of Tampa, Fla., made a brief appearance in a Hillsborough County courtroom to plead not guilty to the Jan. 28 shooting deaths of her 13-year-old son, Beau, and 16-year-old daughter, Calyx.”

“Authorities say Schenecker shot her son twice in the head in the family car as she drove him to soccer practice. She then shot her daughter in the face while she was doing her homework inside the family’s upscale home, police say.”

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/02/16/florida-mom-accused-killing-mouthy-teenage-children-pleads-guilty/#

I bet she pleads not guilty because those mouthy kids were emotionally abusing her for 16 years, the horror, she’s the real victim.

How much do you bet she get’s the pussy pass?

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SingleDad February 16, 2011 at 16:25
anon February 16, 2011 at 16:25

I wonder if there are parallels between Lara Logan and Heidi Jones.

1) Both attractive, but at age 37-38, starting to see their looks fade (and this not get the attention they are accustomed to).
2) Both puzzled as to why male colleagues of the same age get tons of attention from women, but these women are not getting the equivalent from men anymore.
3) One claimed false rape. The other courted danger.

Maybe these are parallel examples of female narcissism.

That does not mean she deserved to be assaulted. But she should have known better than to take the risk (a high income man having lots of unprotected one-night stands is going to wind up paying CS before long, so why excuse women for reckless risk-taking when men are not excused?).

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ABTTRM February 16, 2011 at 16:27

LL was most likely following in the footsteps of Mary Wollstonecraft, the first feminist author, who lived in France for two years in order to experience the French revolution. Between watching aristocrats get beheaded and working on her book defending the revolution, Mary somehow found the time for a sordid affair with an American bad-boy libertine named Gilbert Imlay who got her pregnant. Mary gave birth to a daughter, but needless to say, despite all her begging and pleading Gilbert did not marry her causing a scandal when she returned to conservative England in 1795. The book Libido Dominandi by E. Michael Jones has a whole chapter devoted to her.

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ABTTRM February 16, 2011 at 17:06

Some Anglo/Irish women AND men seem to have a bizarre fascination with the Middle East region. Why would any sane Western person want to visit a region full of sexually repressed/frustrated men who view Western women as whores and Western men as fags? Is it the thrill of the danger? Is it the boredom caused by an ordered, clean Western society?

For men, is it homosexuality that draws them to Middle East? In the First World War, Lawrence of Arabia (who was homosexual) was allegedly beaten and raped by a Turkish officer while fomenting rebellion in Arabia. Today we have Anderson Cooper, who just like Lawrence is a graduate of an elite university and a homosexual alleged spook getting bashed by Egyptian crowds. It seems the more things change the more they stay the same.

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GT66 February 16, 2011 at 17:27

Mr. Price,
According to every article I’ve read on this incident, this woman was sexually assaulted. People have been adamant that she was not raped. Why or why would you choose such an outrageously false and extreme headline for this article? This is EXACTLY the finger hold the feminists would look for to turn this incident into yet ANOTHER point of evidence for their “men are all rapists” hysteria. I am greatly saddened by the fact that in this case where it is so crucial that men prevent feminists from exaggerating this incident you would actually be pouring the fuel on their fire.

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W.F. Price February 16, 2011 at 17:32

I am greatly saddened by the fact that in this case where it is so crucial that men prevent feminists from exaggerating this incident you would actually be pouring the fuel on their fire.

-GT66

Look behind the rhetoric, GT. It’s the feminists in this case who are denying it was “rape.” By their own definitions (and US law in most states), I’m sure it was. And since it is their own policies that put her there, I’m going to hold it right up to their faces and see what they have to say about it.

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continent February 16, 2011 at 17:45

Lara Logan is a “Battle Tough” according the NYP
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/battle_tough_beauty_no_wimpy_girly_FfpfAveJxIM23QKQh98MeO
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And there’s an infamous incident in 2008 in Iraq involving her relationship with a then-still-married US contractor, Joseph Burkett.

Burkett allegedly brawled with one of Logan’s exes, CNN correspondent Michael Ware, in a Baghdad “safehouse,” and in the ensuing headlines, it was later revealed that Logan was pregnant with Burkett’s child.

Logan and Burkett are now married and has two children.”

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WOW February 16, 2011 at 18:21

Lara:
Logan may have “moxy”, but from where I stand, she’s had too much “coxy”.

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GT66 February 16, 2011 at 18:28

“Look behind the rhetoric, GT. It’s the feminists in this case who are denying it was “rape.” By their own definitions (and US law in most states), I’m sure it was. And since it is their own policies that put her there, I’m going to hold it right up to their faces and see what they have to say about it.”

I see your point that they want to deny it was rape because they may be seen as more or less putting this woman in that situation but I think that as that headline is worded it is dangerous and has the potential to backfire.

And just so you know where I stand, beside this one point of contention, I think you’re doing a fine job and I really enjoy the quality of your articles and this site in general. Keep up the good work.

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W.F. Price February 16, 2011 at 18:32

And just so you know where I stand, beside this one point of contention, I think you’re doing a fine job and I really enjoy the quality of your articles and this site in general. Keep up the good work.

-GT

Thanks GT. Just have a little faith in my methods (they are working), but feel free to offer criticism or advice at the same time. There’s little I care about more than the opinion of supporters.

Seamus the Classicist February 16, 2011 at 18:53

Doug, she wouldn’t do you. She’s not as slutty as it appears, it’s all blown out of proportion. The strong, free, independent women only sleep with those they have set their eyes upon. It’s the misguided girls, without direction or any discerning sense of morality, ala Jersey Shore girls, that give it up easily.

You are correct Skadi. There is a big difference between a slut and a whore, hence the two different words for two different concepts (something most women refuse to grasp because they want to pervert the meanings of words to their own ends.)

A slut is a libertine female who receives validation for scoring cock, she will screw any man (and in some cases women) regardless of his income or what benefits he can confer. A slut will screw most men from the pauper at the pay toilet to the prince of payolla. Sometimes sluts can be marked out by their simple emotional problems (i.e. a need for acceptance, daddy issues, compulsive beheavior, etc.)

A whore is much worse (in fact a whore doesn’t need to indeed be sexual.) She seeks only the benefit, a means to an end, solely for motivations of gain: this can be seen by the fact that whore and prostitute are synonyms whereas prostitute and slut are not. A whore is worse because she has emotional detachment and no principles, she will willing marry a man for monetary benefit and bring children into the world, as long as the money is good. She doesn’t opperate for any greater purpose.

No Lara is a whore, the crime commited against her was the fact that she was treated like a slut.

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Anonymous February 16, 2011 at 19:23

God laura, skadi SHUT UP. You hang out here to suck up attention like any woman and you dont even have the courtesy to listen, instead running your big mouths off

This is the chick that was all about taking reporters to task for not being tough enough & taking risks & getting into the real hot spots. I remember her on Daily Show; you could tell right there how full of herself she was. Real cool guy act. Very unfeminine. She thinks she’s hot shit for some other reason than being pretty; like we’d give a shit about you if you weren’t. We entertain her insane tough grrl act because its charming in a retarded way when a pretty girl thinks she can be one of the guys, completely disregarding the fact she’s only gotten so far for being hot. The problem is when people start taking this delusion seriously, like just about everyone in the West does. Fuck her, she’s an idiot and got what she deserved for being so dumb as to be in a warzone. Really,This is the best thing thats happened to her, she’ll be on Oprah, become a martyr & become even more insufferable.

I was on another board last night and you shouldve seen the the circle jerk- all the women doing their lemming solidarity thing & calling everyone who suggested she bared some responsiblity in the matter scum of the earth. No grey zone at all. And the men backed them up in classic western subservience. All the faux outrage, what libs are really get off on. Nothing wrong with a good circle jerk (why i come here afterall), just you know- lets have a bit of common sense among all of our teeth gnashing. No mention of why you’d let a woman into a warzone, no mention of the sad inevitability of rape during wartime, just everyone lining up to lick this chick’s boots. Everyone acting like like a perfect, good samaritan.

I’m so tired of western woman worship, of the watery feminine dissolution thats destroying us. Its a rare that a woman can garner respect for something other than being born with the right genes. Thats no accomplishment ladies, thats blind luck. You’re nice to look at & that IT. We wouldn’t want anything to do with you otherwise

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Janice February 16, 2011 at 19:31

What the heck is any western woman doing in a muslim country without her hair covered ffs? There are reams of men who see uncovered women as begging to be raped and beaten. I am not saying that she deserved, or that any woman deserves this type of treatment. It is wrong, very wrong to force any person to have physical contact with another. In a muslim country you have to expect that women that go uncovered are targets. Would covering herself up have helped her at all? Possibly. I will never spend money or time in Egypt because of this incident. They can keep their dust and violence.

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Robert February 16, 2011 at 19:55

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@ Robert

Don’t you follow the SATC crowd? Or Gossip Girl crowd or the new Skins or Jersey shore crowds.

If anything, the feminist was sipping a appletini. K?

I don’t follow those clones. They are under my microscope. I would have mentioned the appletinis,as well as, whiskey sours, alexanders and other old school feminist favs but, I chose to keep the list short.

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Omnipitron February 16, 2011 at 20:00

I wonder if there are parallels between Lara Logan and Heidi Jones.

You know, that’s a very interesting point. By now most people on the manosphere realize that a woman’s main weapon is her ability to grab a man’s attention, and when this ability begins to wane it tends to affect them pretty deeply. Heidi and Lara are actually past their Wile E Coyote moments so they would have noted the decline in attention they are now receiving.

However, for Lara where it can be readily assumed that she was an attention whore from the links submitted from other commenters, this could have been a much more dramatic shock. Consider it, she was a swimsuit model, she would have had boys and young men falling all over themselves just to get a look at her but while there is no doubt she is a hot 38 year old….she is a hot 38 year old and that’s the problem. Her husband, however, may actually be getting more attention from younger women which puts more pressure on her.

Not comfortable I’m thinking.

This is where I think Seamus’ point coincides with yours Anon. That instead of changing gears to something which would suit her more now and in the future, she instead decided to continue to grab more attention for herself, a ploy she has used in the past with success. Heidi too, just the attention was from sympathy for her plight.

If it ain’t broke why fix it, right?

In reality, it’s pathetic, like watching an athlete compete when they should have hung it up years ago their declining skills making a mockery of their once great performances. Like Single Dad has alluded to, if she had covered up and been more demure in her actions, she would have garnered a lot more respect from the Spearhead regulars. Maybe I’m pushing the limits here, but I really wonder if the peeps here would have considered her more than just pump and dump material if she was more conservative and didn’t use her body as a tool, especially since she has kids and a husband.

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continent February 16, 2011 at 20:39

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/item_eyjZaCHJvKzu3a1xlv6ECP#ixzz1EBg5BJAM
Back in 2008 the NYP reported that Lara Logan was a homewrecker in Iraq. Quote

“Sexy CBS siren Lara Logan spent her days covering the heat of the Iraq war – but that was nothing compared to the heat of her nights. “

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NoDoot February 16, 2011 at 21:55

I wonder how specific she’ll be in her inevitable memoir. Sexual assault means what exactly? These days it could be a rude gesture. In this situation I assume it meant more, but what?

She’s going to want to appear a martyr but she’s not going to want to talk about getting penetrated by half a dozen Egyptian revolutionaries, I’d guess.

Another question for the memoir – how did this experience change her? My guess is she’s not going to say she’s hates Egyptian men, that would be un-pc. Bet that’s how she really thinks.

Logan got hit with a little reality. It’s gonna mess up her dogma to process it though.

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andros February 16, 2011 at 22:04

Lara Logan is an aggressively high-T cunt who gave the most fawning blowjob ever seen on camera to a gang of Navy SEALs she was embedded with. You ought to have less than zero sympathy for the dumb bitch: she intentionally sought out danger to fuel her pussy tingles and now we’re about to go to war because suddenly she got hurt. She wanted fame, attention and glamor without any adjoining risk. Too bad.

Devlin once warned in one of his papers about taking female chastity too far; men can end up shooting whole neighborhoods over one woman’s cry for help. But in the case she isn’t even chaste. How pathetic we really are.

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Ramses February 16, 2011 at 22:34

It seems anything can happen when a crowd is in a frenzy – BUT … I was not an eyewitness to the event so I cannot offer an opinion either way. So many women I’ve know seem so flaky and truth-challenged (just the facts, madam) that I am frankly skeptical it happened as described. It could also be a publicity stunt, or perhaps she is just an attention/compassion addict.

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Alcuin February 16, 2011 at 22:55

“To clarify was she actually raped or just beaten? The original news release says “sexual assault.””

“Sexual assault” is a purposely confusing term. It allows a women to paint a man as a rapist or pervert without any rape or perversion. Perhaps he only touched her – even by accident. Or he stared at her half-revealed tits. Or accidentally bumped into her. Or said something she took in a certain way.

All “sexual assault”. Just another way to encage men and destroy their livelihoods.

Feminism is a zero-sum game. What you have, they want.

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Robert February 16, 2011 at 23:05

My guees is; she thought her hotness, p*ssy passport and, cl*tomatic (female version/addition to ” diplomatic” immunity”) would prevent her from suffering any harm/outcome while being in the midst of a bunch of angry men who want freedom. She put herself in danger. She put herself in what was traditionally a man’s place and was, with the exception of sexual assault ( if any sexual assault took place) treated like a man.

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Do not care February 16, 2011 at 23:32

This women brought it on herself. She’s a homewrecker too, with a documented immoral sexual past breaking up families in 2008 in Iraq. I am not interested in what happens to this piece of ass.

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Journey February 17, 2011 at 01:03

I just read somewhere that Obama called Logan. I wonder if it was to assure her that he will be apologising on behalf of all men and that he has already bent over and had Michelle take it out of his ass with a cat’o 9 tails. Or whether it’s to tell her “This is not Islam” and to make sure she understands the important thing here is not to be racist.
I’ve been on the boards over here under the name Journey http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2011/02/lara_logan_raped_egypt_reporte.php
All the feminists have been going nuts and for some reason trying to insist it wasn’t rape. I pointed out that for them everythings rape if it’s a western guy, like even just being stupid enough to seek custody of his kids – raaaape! Yet with Logan attacked for 20mins by 200 guys it’s “sexual assault, not rape”. The only answer I got was “Misogyny!”.

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Red0660 February 17, 2011 at 02:47

SHAME ON YOU SPEARHEAD: There were no reports of her being raped. Apparently she was “sexually assaulted” but how…..no one knows. More than likely her shirt was torn off and even this constitutes sexual assault.

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Red0660 February 17, 2011 at 03:02

SHAME ON YOU SPEARHEAD: There are no reports of this woman being raped. Apparently she was “sexually assaulted”. Women being sex objects themselves this can constitute her shirt getting torn off while being beaten by a mob..

Unlike when Anderson Cooper was beaten repeatedly by the same mobs, this was a fantastic career opportunity for her.

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Red0660 February 17, 2011 at 03:13

“BTW, how many men in prison are gang-raped, and we don’t hear about it? Why doesn’t the media report that?”

“Why won’t the media politicize those stories?”

No silly, they wouldn’t do that for men..
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The Huffington Post:

“At both the state and federal level, many women prisoners are subject to violence and sexual assault. No national standards have been adopted about protecting their safety” -The Huffington Post

(Isn’t that nice. I think women in prisons should each be given their own pink cells. Perfumed bed sheets and a kitten to keep them company.)

?”Some of the violence incarcerated women experience is emotional rather than physical. Many prisoners are mothers of children, and they want to continue to do whatever parenting they can from behind bars. They face sometimes insuperable barriers to staying in touch with their children, such as the inflated price of phone calls and the long distances between prison and home. Few people are asking, as the Rapporteur does, why it is necessary to incarcerate so many women, why their parent-child relationship is undermined rather than supported and, finally, why it is so easy to terminate their parental rights during their incarceration.”

(Isn’t that sweet, women should have on site emotional support therapists just for them. Awww their parental and custody rights of their children were removed because they are criminals…..that’s not right! Something must be done!!!)

Why are women even put in jail anyway. As the women’s equality minister in Britain said, ‘all female prisons should be shut down and converted to prisons for men’

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WGMOW February 17, 2011 at 03:21

Alcuin: “When I studied in university a woman claimed to have been gang-raped. After telling the story, she acquired a certain authority. She was at the top of the feminist hierarchy…”

Now, this is what I hate the most about women in general and feminists in particular: Despite their claims that women are “strong and sexy and independant” and other such blather, they’d usually prefer being considered a victim. It’s much easier to claim to be a victim and get all that weepy sympathy, than it is to actaully demonstrate and prove that you are strong and independant. Pathetic…

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DirkJohanson February 17, 2011 at 04:36

I have a Jewish heritage, but to echo some of what has been written above, and as I tweeted last night: “what constitutes a threat to our civilization and my way of life is not the Muslim Brotherhood. Rather, its the American sisterhood.”

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mgtow February 17, 2011 at 05:23

Oh noes! Now no one will want to marry her.

;p

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There’s no greater glory and professionalism for a journalist than to die on the job while covering a story in a dangerous land. They are heroes who deserve a funeral with top honors.

In the case of Miss Logan, she got a lesser honor. Dubious, but nevertheless still an honor and a testament to her professionalism.

Shit happens, it’s an occupational risk, and at least she’s still alive.

Maybe CBS should send her to Yemen next. She’s such a brave lass, surely she won’t be afraid there’s a ‘next time’. Also once a woman has been raped, protecting her from future rapes is a purely academic endeavor.

Lastly, if she wants to sue for compensation, may I suggest Hosni Mubarak. He caused her to be raped. Also Mubarak is filthy rich. If you’re having sex against your will, you might just as well be compensated for your troubles.

Honest transactions, no judgments. That’s all I am asking from women.

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ABTTRM February 17, 2011 at 05:59

I get the impression there might be more to this attack than meets the eye: The attack took place on 2/11/2011 (the 11th of the month, First Quarter Moon). The victim’s initials are the same letter repeated (L). It was most likely some kind of a “global ceremony”.

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Pierce Harlan February 17, 2011 at 06:00
namae nanka February 17, 2011 at 06:09

pagieu

“I don’t know why you are all hating on Wollstonecraft.”

Hating?

But for this epoch we mustwait–wait perhaps till kings and nobles, enlightened by reason, and, preferring the real dignity of man to childish state, throw off their gaudy hereditary trappings; and if then women do not resign the arbitrary power of beauty–they will prove that they have less mind than man.

How many generations do you think need to be wreaked havoc on before we should agree that women have less mind than men?

Women have seldom sufficient serious employment to silence their feelings; a round of little cares, or vain pursuits frittering away
all strength of mind and organs, they become naturally only objects
of sense.

And do we finally have empirical evidence against this? Judging by the fertility rates of countries where women are most educated and most on their own, then unlike by the passage you posted, they neglect their duties of motherhood and rather adopt that of prostitue. The ultimate sensualhood. Abortion is the nastiest proof of this vain pursuit.

They themselves cherish their own beauty, and all that which Wollstonecraft tends to blame on men, not much unlike the current feminists, has to arise from something within a woman, in the fact that it still continues today and shows no signs of abating.

When in the words of Hannah Rosin, women are leading the way this century, why are they so fragile of mind that men can still make “objects of sense” out of them?
To what point should men continue to get the blame for that which should be an obvious proof of the infirmity of female nature.
Isn’t it enough that the majority has neutered themselves, believed that if they behaved as friends towards women; gave them respect as fellow-equals only to find their delusions shattered, sometimes when watching young girls pining for a jerk, sometimes in the divorce court aghast at the falsehoods levelled against them.

If you want to read an astute work on human nature, look here, a man who writes about woman. not women, and though his work is anti-feminine, in the end his real blame falls upon men.

You may find parallels between his writing and Wollstonecraft’s, but the biggest difference between his work and her work is that it isn’t constrained by the time and the class sensibilities in which it was written. Unlike her work it stands the test of time, and the blame that is assigned to men, isn’t some childish frivolity that is so exhibited by feminists and to some degree by Wollstonecraft.

And while he is regarded as an utter misogynist, Wollstonecraft is a hero of feminists. This is the main pointer why few men have respect for female intellect.

Some other quotes from Wollstonecrafts’ work:

This is a rough sketch of my plan; and should I express my
conviction with the energetic emotions that I feel whenever I think
of the subject

Ah, yes.

Let men become more chaste and modest, and if women do not grow wiser in the same ratio, it will be clear that they have weaker understandings.

Another falsifiable hypothesis, that shouldn’t be that hard to judge in our times. Doesn’t sound too different from “men can stop rape”.

The father of a family will not then weaken his constitution and debase his sentiments by visiting the harlot, nor forget, in obeying the call of appetite, the purpose for which it was implanted. And the mother will not neglect her children to practise the arts of coquetry, when sense and modesty secure her the friendship of her husband.

Indeed, after the friendship has been established and she has lost her love, she will just divorce him and then take care of the children. Or rather dump them in child-care while she takes care of her career.

But, till men become attentive to the duty of a father, it is vain
to expect women to spend that time in their nursery which they, ”
wise in their generation,” choose to spend at their glass

Men should be better fathers, so women can be more productive, now where have we heard this before?

In short, from what little I have read of this, her work comes across as that of a woman who claims to look inside the minds of men, and yet can’t look inside her own.
I won’t say that all or even most of her observations and the conclusions that she draws from are wrong, but they ironically prove the shortcomings of her own, and by association, a woman’s and a feminist’s intellect.

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Dubcik February 17, 2011 at 14:19

Along the same lines there is a story on CBC about a police officer who told a group at a University assembly that women could avoid sexual assault by not dressing like sluts. The comment section is revealing, some commentors even saying they are “entitled” to walk around naked and not get sexually assaulted and “how dare the police officer blame the victims” etc. etc. Thy are calling for a formal apology, but I am sure they will ask for him to resign as well. The comment section was shut-down after people started agreeing the officer’s statement was sensible, kinda like the advice they give to lock your doors when you leave your car if you want to lower the chances it will be stolen. Too many women live in a bubble of entitlement and rights and refuse to see there is a bigger picture out there than just themselves.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2011/02/17/toronto-officer-slut657.html#socialcomments

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Gunn February 17, 2011 at 15:27

She has nice tits

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DCM February 17, 2011 at 15:48

Feminists have contradictory expectations because like all women they assume men will do the hard work of reconciling any contradictions and making things function — so women will be happy and claim any credit.

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Uncle Elmer February 17, 2011 at 15:50

She has nice tits

They’re fike.

This just in from HuffPo : Why Was Logan There? Because It Is Her Job

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gayle-tzemach/why-was-logan-there-becau_b_824818.html

As if being a self-promoting media star is a “job”, like working at 7-11 or the poultry processing plant, and therefor women journalists should be free to
do as they please without harassment.

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coptic777 February 17, 2011 at 16:06

Story is out guys. She was never raped google it.

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Lyn87 February 17, 2011 at 16:12

I’m not buying the “rape” story for a second. I’m pretty leery about her being the victim of a “sustained sexual assault” too. My guess is that she probably got roughed up a bit, and there were probably hands everywhere but seriously, what did she THINK was going to happen?

Saying people should be aware of their surroundings and exercise some freakin’ prudence isn’t victim-blaming: it’s common sense.

And as far as being “rescued by women and soldiers:” make no mistake: she was saved from further harm by armed military men. Period.

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ABTTRM February 17, 2011 at 16:26

In addition to the time of the attack, the symbology involved also leads me to think this was not a chance event:

LL worked for CBS.
CBS’s symbol is the All-Seeing Eye or the Eye of Horus.
Horus is the deity who protects Egyptian royalty.

On the day Mobarek (Pharoah) steps down, HOR-us (CBS) protects the Pharoah by sending a wHORe (LL) as a sacrifice/scape-goat to divert the attention of the angry masses. The masses take out their frustration on LL allowing Mobarak to make a clean getaway. The world focuses on LL while Mobarak is quickly forgotten about. More than likely, LL will be rewarded big time in the future for her sacrifice.

There is much numerology and symbolism in this event to analyse. I am hoping someone like Vigilant Citizen can piece it all together.

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doclove February 17, 2011 at 20:42

I posted something similar in an article by FB at http://www.inmalafide.com which is late in coming here but I hope useful. This may be a bit long, but worth the read. As some of you may know, I’m a United States of America Soldier and a Veteran of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan who is about ready to leave the Army soon. The Muslim Middle-east, North Africa, Central Asia and South Asia are frightening places for being a foreign man as far as being anally raped; and it’s worse for foreign women. There was an Army Major, pay grade O-6 who was anally raped by 3 Afghan local worker nationals at Bagram Airfield which I regard as the safest or close to the safest American military installation to be in Afghanistan.American military Majors are
typically about Lara Logan’s age, in their 30′s, or more likely a little younger–that is in their early to mid 30′s. This Major was probably armed with a nine-millimeter handgun and trusted the local Afghan workers. They probably unexpectantly grabbed him and proceeded to sexually violate him. Arabs and Afghans aren’t exactly the same, but they are more alike to eachother than us Westerners. Each Arab ethnicity is different from eachother, but they are more like eachother than they are to the Afghans. Most people anywhere are not bad people who will hurt you, but the bad ones can really ruin your day. As a Christian and a Roman Catholic, I agree that sexual assault and rape are morally wrong. That said the reality is this: morals count for the next world-that is for getting into Heaven. Morals don’t in the end mean anything in this world except what the powerful be that the majority, or the well-armed minority etc. enforce it to be. You can never expect morals to hold sway in this world. By all means try to make the Earth, Heaven on Earth as a good person should try to do as much as he can. That said, we will fail to make Earth a Heaven on Earth because all of us is imperfect in one way or another. Lara Logan’s bosses should have not sent her there and she should not have volunteered realisticly speaking in order to have safety from sexual assault and rape for her even though it is morally wrong to sexually assault or rape anyone. One must conform to reality over morals if one wants to increase his or even her safety in this world(Earth not Heaven). Remember, reality trumps morality most every time in this world.

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ActaNonVerba February 17, 2011 at 23:29

In one regard, I’ve been skeptical of the whole Eyptian uprising from the start. I was never worried (no offesnse to those who disagree with me) that it originated with a radical Islam slant. I’ve felt it was a secular, human rights event. But, I do feel that the feminists in Egypt have been playing possum and that troubles me. For example, I enjoyed the fact (again, just my opinion) that Mona Eltahaway was doing many interviews and confronting people like Bill Maher and Alan Dershowitz who are Israel-firsters and were really pushing the “Muslim agenda” thing. However, I feel like Mona Eltahaway and her feminist sisterhood are watching and waiting like hungry wolves, talking in a very inclusive way in order to accomplish knocking out old regime members and the military stranglehold on power. I think that, if they accomplish that and real reform begins, these feminists will then make a major effort at a power grab and will have no qualms about betraying the very men who marched beside them in the revolution.

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fmz February 18, 2011 at 00:21

That’s just how they are fellas. Dealt with it.
Its not (nor will ever be) their fault that… wimminz be stoopud.

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Uncle Elmer February 18, 2011 at 17:27

ph : Oh, and

What the commenters here are griping about is that a woman who knew the dangers went to Egypt anyway with her ample, augmented bosom. She did this after bad-mouthing the Egyptian Army and after arriving placed herself in a huge unruly mob. Now after predictably getting rogured the feminarchy rises up to chastise American men for not doing something about it.

You sound really bitter. Why don’t you double-down on the antidepressants and boxed wine, take your fist out of your curdled twat, step away from the computer, and stop bitching about men?

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doclove February 19, 2011 at 05:49

I made a typo, a major id pay grade O-4 not O-6

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Lavazza February 19, 2011 at 07:27

What the “blaming the victim” crowd do not get is that a victim’s own responsibility of avoiding the crime can vary from 0 to 100 % with the criminal’s responsibility still being 100 %.

No insurance company will insure bicycles in Sweden anymore because there is too much theft and insurance fraud. When it still was possible a friend would park his bicycle in a bad neighbourhood when he was bored with it and a couple of days later it would always be gone and he could claim insurance. The guy stealing the bicycle was 100 % responsible for the theft but my friend also had a sure fire way of making the theft happen.

In criminal law their are actually very few things a victim can do that can make a criminal less responsible for a crime, but an insurance company will have a lot more things that makes it not liable to pay out insurance. I think it is very necessary to keep these to view points separate.

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Ulysses February 19, 2011 at 19:06

Logan is not hot. She’s a butterface sleazeball. A desert queen. She doesn’t exactly get much competition in the field. That’s my only real disagreement.

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evilwhitemalempire February 20, 2011 at 01:31

ph

Feminists are responsible for rape because they deny the reality of rape! But wait, I though feminists were liars who have concocted up this myth of rape to further their own goals!

Strawman.
“Help! Help! I’m being RAPED by a guy in a ski mask in a dark alley!” is NOT a myth.
“You banged me when I was drunk so you ‘raped’ me!” IS a myth.

Once we stop with this “boys will be boys” attitude, and this “people we can’t control” hogwash you’ll realize how harmful essentiallizing rape and violence is to both men and women.

Once we stop with this “He dumped me. Well I’ll fix him! Hey police station I was raped!” attitude you’ll realize how harmful essentiallizing the victim culture is to women you purport to care so much about.
You think you all can keep right on crying wolf like the foolish little children you are and expect folks to keep right on giving a damn?

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Jean Valjean February 21, 2011 at 16:34

Sending a woman into danger IS an acceptable risk. That’s what “equality” is all about–women’s lives having the same value as a man’s.

While I’m not happy about this news of Logan getting raped (I’ve long been a fan of her “reporting”) I’m not about to say she shouldn’t have been there. (OK she probably shouldn’t have been there.) But no one should have been in that position of danger. It was a dumb place to be at a moment of chaos and great anger. But these are the risks that high achievers must take in order to highly achieve.

But hey, if someone is going to experience danger and a good beat down I say, “Why not women?” Men have been shouldering the burden of violence in our society for a looong time. It’s nice that someone as hot to trot as miss Logan finally gets to take one (or a dozen) for the team.

BTW, does anyone here think that if Logan were a man he would be in a morgue instead of at home recovering? I do.

In the end (no pun intended–maybe), Logan took it like a man (so far) and she deserves props for it.

Now if she appears on Oprah recounting her horrific rape at the hands of the brutal patriarchal males then I’ll change my opinion.

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John February 23, 2011 at 21:53

It makes me sick, but it doesn’t surprise me what those Moslem’s are capable of doing.If they had their way we would all be leaning over a dirty rug with a rusty knife to our throats.Mark my words

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David K. Meller March 1, 2011 at 15:47

All of the posts here seem to agree with the assertion that the little journalista playing frontline reporter was actually “raped” or aggressively molested by an Egyptian mob while acting on assignment for her news service.

Some 40% of “rape” and “assault” accusations by women turn out to be unfounded upon investigation! Why is this silly girl even being given the benefit of the doubt here? Possibly the men there simply resented her presence, and started getting aggressive toward her hoping that she would go home (where she belonged).

We already know that “rape”–still more “attempted rape” is eagerly exploited by women who foolishly imitate men, and then regret the consequences. This MAY BE a similar case! For all I know, she may have experience little more than exposure to some sexually suggestive
language and maybe a pinch on her cute little bottom (or something like that, NOT rape!

PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller

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jordan April 29, 2011 at 15:28

What did she expect with a mad mob of men ? Maybe tone down the sexy outfits when your in a 3rd world country thats full of criminals.

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dude May 10, 2011 at 12:55

“Some 40% of “rape” and “assault” accusations by women turn out to be unfounded upon investigation!”

That statistic is totally made up. In reality, it’s less than 2%.

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erog June 28, 2011 at 13:00

Lara Logan is the biggest whiner I’ve ever seen in my life.

Here’s exactly what happened: she got the shit kicked out of her, and a few men grabbed her tits and ass. OH MY GOD! How horrible! WAHHHH! Whine whine whine. Derp, that’s totally rape, right?

What a fucking drama queen.

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dude September 6, 2011 at 18:15

“Okay, it’s about staying alive now. I have to just surrender to the sexual assault. What more can they do now? They’re inside you everywhere.” ~ Lara Logan

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Patrick Long October 19, 2012 at 21:28

I will not lie to you bloggers. Many of the scathing criticisms that I have heard of this story and of woman in general in this comment section make me somewhat ashamed of being male. To the one’s who speak of feminists being nothing but shrews I say to you it is important to keep in mind that there will always be radicals in every camp. Many of you have once again made that plain for me to see. However it is important to keep in mind the sliding scale of moderate that make up most parties, groups, ideologies, what have you. I am male. I consider myself something of a feminist. Many of the awful things people have said in this comment section about rape and women are hugely insulting. I love my girlfriend very much. The thought of her being harmed puts me on something of a mental warpath. The thought that if this was my girlfriend that you all were bashing (and in some ways you are) makes me even more furious.
In response to a post made by nigeles175d woman have had to fight for the right to be on the front line with there brothers. You seem to have forgotten the reason why women are not there is because they are not allowed to be there by our military. Not because of feminism. I think that it is very safe to say that feminism has brought them closer to combat situations.
Laura is a hero. She has been put through hell to help us exercise our right to free speech. Without her and the her fellow reporters that have fallen under the radar the American people owe as much to as we give our soldiers. We should all be showing her and everyone else the respect that we all deserve. I ask all of the people that call bullshit on her and other women (and men) who have been raped or sexually assaulted to your best to understand how that might feel.

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Margaret Hope August 27, 2013 at 12:12

Lara Logan played a very risky game out there in Egypt, Muslins have a very dim view of western women at the best of times, but when faced with an attractive busty blond, who uses flirting as an ice breaker an who can be seen on websites with little on, and who has been seen being friendly with the crew she is working with, it was only ever going to end one way. Lara Logan thought she was untouchable, her over confidence was was her undoing. Until cellphone footage of the incident emerges , and it will, we will never know what actually happened to her, but I hope she learned a valuable lession about second sense, and about judging situations long before they become critical.

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