Josh Jasper may not care much about the game, but he is eagerly anticipating the Super Bowl commercials. That’s because Josh is the CEO of the Dubuque Riverview Center, a “nonprofit” that puts out disturbing ads implying that baby boys are all potential rapists. According to Mr. Jasper, Superbowl ads are worse, because they objectify women and encourage violence. To prove this, he has invented a game based on Bingo, which includes squares for such things as “revealing clothing,” “close up body shots,” and “women wrestling.”
Jasper feels that the masculine nature of the Super Bowl is a problem, perhaps riffing off the old erroneous claim that women are battered in unprecedented numbers on Super Bowl weekend:
Jasper points to businesses such as Godaddy.com as continuing to push the public’s desensitization button by objectifying women. He said many other companies promote violence…
“Violence is a learned behavior,” Jasper said. “People aren’t born to be a rapist; people aren’t born to beat up their husband, their wife or their children. You learn this behavior. One of the biggest ways we learn violence is through the media.”
With the Super Bowl being such a hyper-masculine event, Jasper said the reality is that society has normalized violence against women and children, transforming what it means to be “a man.”
To hear complaints about “objectification” coming from a man who has no problem painting baby boys as potential rapists should tell us all we need to know about these types of abuse quacks, but sadly they are still allowed to plant their faces firmly in the feeding trough, living off of our taxes by providing legal and medical “services” for the courts under the guise of victim advocacy. It is imperative that we expose these charlatans for who they are, and remove them from participation in our justice system. For these people, promoting hatred of men provides a living on the public dime, and in these hard times it’s time to reevaluate whether or not we can afford to allow them to continue doing so.
The rapist babies ad:
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I teach my son whenever I can: NEVER protect a woman.
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So long as males tolerate sissified males named “Josh” – pissing even on our SuperBowl – these gender traitors will only feel encouraged to increase their anti-male slurs.
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I dont think it will ever cease to amaze me how childish and pathetic feminists and white knights are; you can learn every trick in their book and ten years later they still surprise you with the depths they sink to.
Riverview Center perfectly characterizes the phrase, “the road to hell is paved with good intentions”. They appear to be doing a good thing on paper, but then they also come out with ads like this, meant to instill an irrational fear of baby boys. To what end? So youll contribute to their organization. As far as im concerned, nonprofit organizations like this do much more sinister advertising than openly commercial ones. All they want to do is make you think you need a certain product. How do you get people to want to contribute to Riverview Center, in essence buy their product? By erecting a strawman to tug at the heart strings of viewers and make them think women are powerless and living in a world of rapists.
How you get from A to B mystifies me. “Its a hyper-masculine event, therefore it encourages violence”? Is being masculine a crime now?
How does sitting on a couch while watching a football game with friends encourage violence?
By logical extension, the lifetime channel should be banned as a “hyper-feminine” channel, because its distorted what it means to be “a woman”. (The irony is thats not far from the truth, but thats for another post)
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“Violence is a learned behavior,”
haha
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It was said that the women who worshiped Dionysus went into a frenzy, joined hands and danced around rending off their clothing and carrying on outrageously through the countryside – to the point that they would actually eat their own babies.
Somewhat good metaphor of the Matrix.
… I would not say the superbowl is a “hyper-masculine” event. I think we are supposed to think of it that way – but it was sold out at the get go. The cultural artifact of sports are simply a repackaging of the natural heroic nature of man, into a convenient mechanism of control. Instead of becoming real heros and actually gaining real worldly power, you are a sports hero. A gimmick. A personality icon or representation which the culture uses to disempower and put you amongst the numbers like a brick in the wall. You dress up in a pretty uniforms, run around in box, like a domesticated animal, Accomplishing trivial tasks which affect nobody and are for nothing more than show. It’s a GAME. Is masculinity a GAME? Or a ritual? No. This has nothing to do with masculinity.
The ball one could say represents their true masculinity and power which the Matrix has taken.
This commercial is simply a reflection of the downfall of the structures that man have built for themselves at the hands and service to their wives. These poor fools were never men in the first place, and as their multinational empires of corporate technocracy go through convulsions of disintegration, they see the very thing that set them off in this direction was their compulsion of the feminine and addiction to the power of their female constituents. They followed every whim of their woman up to the point of where we are at today. Now a innocent child is guilty of rape before he has committed it. Because he has been raped before he learns his first word by his parents, by society and by this hateful commercial, which passes it’s unresolved baggage down on the future generations to clean up like it has been done ad-infinitum.
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Because these guys help women screw us in court — notice that they offer “legal aid.” This kind of “nonprofit” (the term is abused these days) probably wouldn’t survive without being funded by the courts, so we are paying for him to kick us around.
Maybe if they piss on it enough, Joe Six-pack will finally get his head out of his ass and wake up to what is going on around him. They are quite happy to sit around while it is other men getting fucked over by the femnasties, but if they come after the Holy of Holies – FOOTBALL – then that may be going too far.
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Mangina creeps like Josh Jasper should suffer the same fate as Nazi sympathizers after WWII-taken out and shot after a five minute trial.That ad is nothing but child pornography.
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And let’s not forget NFL’s Pink Month where Breast Cancer awareness was pushed in our faces (as if this cause is somehow more worthy than the other thousand or so facing our society).
Lara, we really don’t care what you think, because coming from a woman, this is usually disguised feeling, which is what go us into this mess in the first place. We are talking here about publicly-funded ‘progressive/feminists’ attacking each and every male icon/refuge every chance they get, using shaming, emotion-based messaging, and anti-male imagery, all while screaming bloody murder whenever someone tries to criticize their methods.
And Mr Price hit the nail on the head with “in these hard times it’s time to reevaluate”. This is why the MRM should also try to use their purchasing power, not to mention political (via voting) to advance pro-male/anti-misandry products/services. It may not be effective considering how well entrenched the matriarchy is, but it would draw attention while giving us a feeling of empowerment (and, yes, that word ‘empowerment’ also makes me squirm).
Progressives/marxists/socialists have taken over Academia, Media, Bureaucracies, Military and are on a collision course with Islam. We in the middle have to constantly position ourselves not to be the sacrificial lambs if and when this battle takes place.
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One of the biggest ways we learn to objectify all men as either violent or idiotic dolts is also through the media.
This explains exactly why so many violent cultures existed through history.
They watched way too much TV.
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Honestly, I am still amazed at women’s stupidity and greed. The more it goes, the deeper we fall into sh*t. Doesn’t matter if it’s mostly female shit: it stinks just the same.
I think we need WWIII in a big hurry. It’s been so long since we had one.
A kind of “shock” treatment.
Maybe it will knock us back to our senses as a species.
But I won’t hold my breath even then.
… unless, of course, we venture to the edge of extinction.
But we may be too far gone already.
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Sometimes, this stuff really makes me ill.
Calling a baby a rapist – that just really pissed me off.
“ending sexual violence begins with HIM”.
no mention of violent women, yada yada…
Time to write a nasty letter.
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That is such a disgusting ad. Using and blaming babies is sure to raise some eyebrows and backfire.
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Thank you, Mr. Price, for another excellent post. I would add the following.
Jasper’s assertopm that “society has normalized violence against women and children . . . .” is a kind of untruth that is so colossal, that is told on such a grand scale, and is so flat-out audacious, that it is widely accepted as fact by a lot of people precisely because they “would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously.” So said Adolf Hitler, referencing what he called “the big lie” in Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. X (James Murphy translation). Hitler should know.
Such violence is “normalized”? In what universe? Might sound good — if you don’t think about it. But let’s just think about it for two seconds.
First, this lie is generally promulgated by persons financially dependent on the counterfeit perception that “gendered violence” is a massive, unresolved problem that only they can solve. Their financial dependence on this awful bogeyman taints their every pronouncement with an odious patina of untrustworthiness.
Second, men, as a class, loathe and detest rape and violence against women and children more than women do. Sound outrageous? I’m convinced of it. Those of us who closely follow the false rape phenomenon find unmistakable patterns of “gendered” reactions to rape claims. Based on a fair review of the reported cases, it is reasonable to assert that men, as befitting their status since the beginning of time as women’s protectors, typically express greater outrage over rape claims than do women. Rape of women often elicits a visceral reaction of outrage in men exceeding the actual harm inflicted by the crime.
Third, what has become “normalized” is violence against innocent MEN, not women. It is beyond dispute that innocent men are more vulnerable to the criminals than innocent women. Check out a source even the feminists could not dispute, J. Friedman, J. Valenti, “Yes Means Yes: Visions of Female Sexual Power and A World Without Rape” (2008) at 23: “Men are 150 percent more likely to be the victims of violent crimes than women are. . . . . Men are more likely to be victimized by a stranger (63 percent of violent victimizations) . . . .”
I agree with Jasper about one thing: we need to redefine what it means to be a man. Men need to start caring about what is being done to other men. And to start calling charlatans on their Big Lies.
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W.F. Price,
Hope you don’t mind me asking. This thread by you contains a picture of a bearded man with glasses. Is it you? I clicked to enlarge but it led to your other site.
The old saying “A picture is worth thousand words” applies since I had imagined you as Nordic looking, light haired man. Sometimes we wonder what the other commentators look like, but of course that’s private.
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Let’s all be clear here, Football is a bloodsport. That is the reason why it is so popular. It is a way for men to mentally release the aggression they naturally build up, and in this way it probably helps to reduce violence by directing anger and frustrations away from spouses. There are few other ways for a man to express himself in such a feminized society. Most of the jobs today (service sector) give a man no mental or physical satisfaction in creating something of value because most of the manufacturing sector has either been automated or shipped overseas. Outside of work it is just as bad, look at the dropping participatory rates in civic clubs, unions, hunting, bowling leagues etc. where men could congregate with one another outside of female influence. This is why watching and playing fantasy football has become the de facto male bonding activity, and feminists hate it for that reason.
The left also hates sports, they view it as a prolish and barbaric activity. They are particularly disgusted by American Football because it is the most war like: the high degree of specialization, the tactical terminology used, and the outright senseless violence. The set piece, combined arms ballet of the gridiron hearkens back to the days of Alexandros III. This is in stark contrast to the jazzy, smooth improvisations of an association football mid-fielder to beat one man, give and go, then plant a cross into the box for a diving header of “the beautiful game”. Sports are also hated because they bring the concept of loyalty. What lies beneath this regional boosterism are core social values that can be extrapolated down to a genetic level. ie Valuing your own way of life over another’s due to a self-perceived higher sophistication or fitness than others. The power of this false consciousness nationalism, and its genetic drivers, directly challenges the validity of the blank slate, relativist, multicultural society.
I’m all for a little pointless violence, as most of the men out on the field wouldn’t be contribution much to society if they were not in pads, but I have a strong dislike for the game as currently constituted now regardless. The Super Bowl demonstrates what a hollow vehicle for junk consumerism the NFL has become. American Football, of all the televised sports, has its flow completely shattered by deliberate overuse of commercials. Worst of all, the commercials will be chatted about more than the game itself. Women infect what is nominally a man’s activity just to so they can chat about the useless, low quality, high margin crap being sold around the HR water cooler or Facebook.
What you won’t be seeing is a commercial generating sympathy for the many broke, physically crippled, divorced, no future prospects middle aged ex-football player that has had his quality of life ruined by a few short years burning bright until he was replaced? ie The real victims of football related violence. There is none, because the legitimate suffering of men will be trivialized so women can be further pedestalized by people like Josh Jasper.
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Yeah, that’s me. Just thought I’d put something up besides the boring gravatar, so the picture is a couple days old. My hair is kind of light — probably about average for a Norwegian, but you can’t really tell in the picture.
Here’s me at about 30 (six years ago):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20935695@N06/2167343592/
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ENOUGH is ENOUGH!
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Here’s me at about 30 (six years ago):
Interesting, interesting….
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That commercial was really upsetting. I can just imagine mothers watching it and then putting their baby boy in a pink onsie as a knee-jerk reaction.
Hot debate. What do you think?
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“women wrestling.”
Typical feminist preoccupation with carpet-munching. Notice no square for homoerotic towel-snapping or gladiator references.
Just another example of how men are constantly getting the shaft.
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It is imperative that we expose these charlatans for who they are, and remove them from participation in our justice system
If men really were as violent as he claims they would have shut him up long ago. One good beating and this mangina would never open his mouth again.
“Violence is a learned behavior,” Jasper said
So when some 2 year old hits another 2 yo over the head for taking his toy he learned that from watching Sesame St? lol
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W.F.Price,
Thanks for the link to Flicker. You look like a “Rebel with a Cause”. Has Hollywood called? Your good looks makes me green with envy.
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Yeah if Welmer put on some muscle he’d look like the Brawny paper towel guy.
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May I be permitted to give an English take on your ‘super-masculine’ Super-Bowl. Over here the view is that it is a bit sissy (I kid you not). Why? Because all your players are padded up and protected. Compare that with English Rugby: Faster Rougher (no time outs) and no protection whatsoever.
By the way: Women seem to get off on it!
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The objectification charge is such a tired canard. Men are attracted to a woman’s looks and body when they’re up there and always have been, very much including those of strangers as well. That’s a core wired in nature of male sexuality.
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Also the idea that there’s some American epidemic of boyfriends raping their girlfriends in complete bs. It’s based, if upon anything, feminist seriously cooked statistics, where any sex the woman say she later regretted to any degree is counted as rape.
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Just for kicks, let’s see what on the other channels during the game, which will be mostly aimed at women:
MTV: Teen Mom2, Jersey Shore
CNN: Selling the Girl Next Door, Nancy Grace
E!: Sex and the City
AMC: Bad Boys (movie)
A & E: Criminal Minds
Food: Worst Cooks in America
ABC: Knocked Up (movie)
I’ve sometimes told people that we are living in a post-satirical society because nothing that our comedians can come up with can match the actual truth about our dear old American women.
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Here’s me at about 30 (six years ago):
Where have I seen this face before?
Oh yeah, here it is, just put your mouse cursor over Jesus :
http://www.mcnaughtonart.com/artwork/view_zoom/?artpiece_id=353
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Given that Lara has proudly admitted that she is as capable of spousal violence as OJ Simpson, I don’t see how she adds value to this discussion.
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Honestly guys im running at the end of my rope. WTF how is it EVERYTHING now is rape… did yo guys ever hear of this “birth rape”
http://www.salon.com/life/broadsheet/2010/09/09/birth_rape
you most likely have but. I want to give up is there ANY safe places to go. can we buy an island and start off again
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Nemo : Just for kicks, let’s see what on the other channels during the game, which will be mostly aimed at women:
You forgot MSNBC; six hours of “Teen Sex Slaves” and “To Catch a Predator : Raw”.
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It is truly a revolting ad and I am pleased to see it is getting a hammering on YouTube.
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Comedy Channel : “The Girl Next Door”. A high school senior falls for a beautiful new neighbor, then learns she used to be a porn star.
DFH : “Half-Ton Mom”
TLC : “Toddlers and Tiaras”, 3 hours back to back
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stickman,
There is one small form of action you can take, that has an amplified impact :
http://www.singularity2050.com/2011/01/the-time-has-arrived.html
Get out there and post flyers. The right type of flyer, in the right place, will be seen by hundreds of men. Some fraction of them will come to these websites and get educated.
If we post flyers for just 1000 hours collectively, we can push the growth of anti-misandry into the steep part of the S-curve.
Do it.
Don’t get mad. Get an army.
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Everyone,
Go to the YouTube video, and in the comment, tell people there to Google ‘The Spearhead”.
Seriously. Go do it now.
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Opus, that’s true but when someone is wearing a helmet and body protection they can also hit harder and use their head as a battering ram. These guys have thick necks,
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Opus: I’ve heard Brits say the same about baseball, that it’s a girls’ game. But it’s easy to see how you can feel that way, when anyone who can throw a decent fast-ball quits the game and takes up cricket instead.
But if you really want a blood sport, how about ice hockey? Any sport where you can full-body-slam the other guy into a wall has something going for it!
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I’m not going to post my real pic but I looked a bit like Terrence Stamp when young.
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2864553472/tt0061648
And btw, if you’ve ever read the book or seen the film, it was Bathsheba Everdine who caused a lot of trouble and the death of two men when she sent an anonymous Valentine Day card she had found after she inherited a farm and was cleaning with the maid. She sends it to Boldwood a bachelor farmer who had the reputation of being rather cold and not interested in females or sex. I guess she thought it was a joke.
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I mentioned the Hardy novel above but there’s one scene where Bathsheba really gets the gina tingles. She’s walking with Stamp (he’s a soldier) and he’s showing her how his sword is used demonstrating different swipes etc He’s coming fairly close to her too. Well, at the end she says she’s glad the sword was dull. He takes it and just gently cuts off a lock of her hair and says no it’s sharp as a razor. Yep, she fucks him on the spot lol They just can’t control those tingles.
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One reason I bemoan men not being well organized is that we are truly missing the boat. The way to fight this type of misandrous propaganda is not by banning it or shaming it but by running counter advertisements directly attacking both the message as well as the messenger of this type of drivel. More than that, we should be using the mass media to put out messages of our own on topics that are near and dear to us.
Feminists have been putting out junk science for decades without being challenged in the slightest. As a result men have to overcome stereotypes, prejudice, and the resulting legal discrimination in the courts as well as the society in general. The easiest way to pop this bubble is simply by getting out our side of the story.
Imagine what a stink a 30 second commercial would generate if we ran an advertisement on paternity fraud, false rape of domestic violence. Or how about a super bowl commercial destroying the myth that women only “earn” 80 cents on the dollar compared to men? Then visualize an advertisement on every TV channel and in every magazine. It would be like kicking an ant hive.
So next time you see one of these disgusting commercials, visualize one of ours. Or as the old saying from the 70s said, “Don’t get angry, get organized”.
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Disgusting.
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Go over and jump on it on YouTube. The maker of the video answered a comment saying ‘Sexist and offensive’ with ‘Sexist and offensive because it talks about men and boys?’ How thick is he?
**blows a loud raspberry at Mr. Jasper**
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bY4uoDV_pU&feature=player_embedded
Go get ‘em!
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Well I think I’ve said my piece. Boy, that ticked me off! I’m going to send around a mail to me friends on Facebook and ask them to go over and comment as well.
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And this is one reason why I can’t stand mainstream rape advocates.
This is hardly a ‘fact’; there is plenty of evidence to the contrary and yet they cannot even say ‘we don’t know for sure’. No it’s an unassailable fact that men commit 99% of abuse, sexual and otherwise.
* 2.1% of men reported forced vaginal sex compared to 1.6% of women in a relationship in the previous year. http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/ID45-PR45.pdf
* 94% of youth in correctional facilities reported being sexually abused by female staff. http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/svjfry09.pdf
* Among inmates reporting staff sexual misconduct, ~ 65% reported a female aggressor. http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/svpjri0809.pdf
* 50% of homeless youth reported being sexually abused by a female. http://www.nursing.ubc.ca/PDFs/ItsNotWhatYouThink.pdfAll
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I believe rape and assault are crimes, and never in my life have I met a man who argued that they shouldn’t be crimes.
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I’m loving the serious butthurt the video is getting. 300 hits and 5 pages of comments, were the only ‘pro’ statements are by the user who posted it. Expect comments to be disabled within hours.
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Funny how I’ve seen countless Super Bowl commercials with blatant violence against men so far (about every other one), and none against women. The Super Bowl is just another misandry propaganda outlet for the media.
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SMS, what part of this are you not getting?
‘He’s tough’ ‘He’s strong’ (usually thought of as good traits) followed by ‘He’s aggressive’ (usually seen as negative) ‘He’s powerful’ (positive) and then ‘He raped his girlfriend’ ‘But he wasn’t always this way’ (shot of baby) ‘‘What are you teaching your son?’ ‘Redefine what it means to be a man’
‘Strong’ and ‘powerful’ are now negative traits that we need to eliminate in order to ‘redefine’ masculinity? Including ‘aggressive’ in the list of traits is sneaky, as I don’t think any parent says ‘My son is aggressive’ with pride, that’s already considered a negative trait.
‘What are you teaching your son?’ Eh!? Sons are brought up by their parents to rape? Good heavens! If I’d spanked my son one or two more times he could have become a rapist! Not likely. Profiles of typical rapists (violent rape) indicate an antisocial personality , drug or alcohol problems, trouble in school and holding down jobs. How do you ‘teach’ a psychological disorder, and how is it related at all to sports? Why broadcast these commercials on the day men most enjoy watching sports?
Are they going to broadcast commercials about women using frying pans and other weapons on spouses in the commercial breaks on Oprah and Lifetime? If not, why not? Picture a little girl baby with a ribbon in her hair: ‘She’s sugar and spice and everything nice’ ‘but last night she brained her husband with a frypan and then cut off her husband’s penis’ ‘What are you teaching your daughters?’ I’m not holding my breath. I’d like one of a picture of a girl baby replaced by a montage of pictures of Mary Winkler, Lorena Bobbit, and Debra LeFave etc with the voice over ‘What are we teaching our daughters?’
The commercial intimates that ANY male baby can grow up to be a rapist, and that it’s something parents teach in instilling masculinity. Where on earth are there parent who’d define rape as ‘what it means to be a man’?
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Don’t fuss, SMS — at least in impugning our infant boys Josh is in the esteemed company of Pharaoh and Herod. It’s apparently part of a very old tradition, extending even to brutal troglodytes like Josh.
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SMS – “Josh points out that the majority of rape is perpetrated by men (fact-over 99 %”
I gotta call BS on that stat. Besides, the only salient fact that comes in at 99% is that 99(+)% of men will never commit rape. Why do all men, starting out as babies need to be “slimed” as potential rapists? A mere 1% should NOT be used to taint an entire class of people.
A far higher percentage of women will abuse children (including their own), will commit DV, and commit paternity fraud. Should we not then see a commercial with a baby girl and the suggest that it is a that stage of life that girls need to start to be taught not to be violent child-abusing sluts?
Just asking, SMS.
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Who or what comes up with this stuff?
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He’s tough. That’s why we whack off his prepuse without anesthetizing him. Gotta condition him for future pain and humiliation (including this stupid ad).
He’s strong. We weren’t shown his work-out regime before trotting him out in this ad. Still, he can barely stand up on his own. But, that doesn’t matter and is not good enough. The culture wants him strong and does what it must to make it so. As a result, what we get is a conforming pack-mule.
He’s aggressive. At soiling his diapers after feeding him.
He’s powerful. Yup. Sure is. His mere presence makes the main adults in his life re-arrange their whole lives and sleep habits to look after him.
And he raped his girlfriend. Do they mean this happened in between sleep, feeding and burp time, diaper deposits, bathing, and more sleep? Better keep an eye on him.
But he wasn’t always this way.What way? He craps in his own drawers, for gawd’s sake!
What are you teaching your son? Female deference, didn’cha know? Sister hits you – don’t you dare hit back. Mama manipulates you – even if you’re aware of it don’t question it. If girlfrined tells you to jump – bend over. If ex-wife steals your possessions, and children – take it without complaint. If some other man so much as say a few critical words about wimmins – go ballistic.
Better still, the better question to ask is – What are we doing to our sons? Let’s ask questions like – what previous life experiences creates a real rapist – what was done to him while growing up that caused him to, without consent, force sexual intercourse upon a female. And, while we’re at it, let’s find out why we weren’t allowed to look into this problem deeper and a lot sooner.
Redefine what it means to be a manWhat does being a man have to do with rape? The more noble, definitive behaviors of a man, as defined by men, are exhibited in far greater capacity than the aberrant occurance of rape. Percentage wise, a likely 98 % good to 1% falsely accused and the other 1% and less to, well, you know.
Most contributors here outright reject the feminst re-vision and definition of man/men. And many contributors here are examining the behaviors of women that moves us from myth to the present and from the hidden to the knowing. And in doing so we might become to know what is ailing society, Because ending sexual violence begins with him.
This ad is just a sickening re-inforcement of government sponsored hatred against males/men. And people are actually earning a living fomenting such contempt and division. It is obvious what the creators of this ad are trying to say but is it even obvious to them?
Rather, let’s have a PSA documenting the inconsistencies and outright lies of the feminist movement. The evidence is there and would likely be similar in duration to the Rocky franchise and likely as entertaining.
(Uncle Joe,…where are you?).
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SMS – “It’s not comfortable for you to be challanged, so you need to “disable comments within hours.”
I see you struggle to understand snarky comments. That comment was suggesting that the creators of the add would soon be cutting off comments on their YouTube channel.
I thought the intent of the comment in question was plainly, if not painfully obvious. But, then again, you don’t seem to be especially bright.
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crella : See, this is where a woman speaking out against misandry matters a lot.
SMS : To speak in language you can understand, the tone you are taking with females like Lara and crella makes you a misogynist. As a misogynist, you therefore also have rape-inclined proclivities (as you yourself probably believe). Shame on you.
There is a blog called Citizen Renegade :
http://roissy.wordpress.com
You need to read that, and The Spearhead, for about a month. After that, you might begin to learn how women think.
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SMS
That commercial did nothing to encourage healthy masculinity or respect for women. It just threw males under a bus. Crella gave an excellent example of how the commercial would look if it were addressed to women. Impressionable mothers watching that commercial will just conclude that masculinity is something to be disdained.
Hot debate. What do you think?
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I bet a lot of ditzy women who are pregnant and contemplating abortion will see this add, and get the hamster wheel running. “If I abort my baby boy, he won’t rape anyone when he is older!”
I am sure this video will lead to at least one boby boy aborted, who otherwise would not have been.
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I hope you mean ‘Laura’ not ‘Lara’….
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Who pays attention to dumbass commercials anyway.
A MAN WILL INVENT a device to edit out ads or automatically switch to something else during dumbass ads.
Silly femmy-nutties. They are still clinging to the old world.
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‘He’s tough
He’s strong
He’s aggressive
He’s powerful
and he raped his girlfriend‘
‘He wasn’t always this way…what are we teaching our sons?’
‘Redefine what it means to be a man’
The spot talks about rape, not a peep about DV in the home. It’s talking about rape, and only rape.
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What an interesting assumption. What do you know of the way we’ve raised our son?
I was talking about violent rape, not ‘Gee I wish I hadn’t slept with that guy last night’ rape and ’8-second rape’ and ‘I got drunk and think I screwed some guy in the bathroom last night’ rape. I read three papers profiling the average violent rapist before I posted that comment. What’d you read, Feministing?
You seem to think that a man with nothing at all wrong with him will rape. I disagree.
I’ll read your link if you read mine-
http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/
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Too many people!!
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Lara, cut the crap. You’re derailing discussion.
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@SMS…
I’m a board member with a similar, larger organisation. There is no way on earth we would produce anything akin to this video.
If this commercial is being seen by young boys some of them will end up with the same symptoms as actual victims. Those who work with victims of abuse have no excuse for not understanding the part shame plays in ongoing trauma. That they rely on the implanting of shame in others is a tragedy and a travesty. It demonstrates absolutely no focus on prevention at all but rather a focus on blame and shame.
Ultimately it will have the opposite effect to what they expect.
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SMS,
I see you just blew off my comment.
Why don’t you take a moment to educate yourself?
* 2.1% of men reported forced vaginal sex compared to 1.6% of women in a relationship in the previous year. http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/ID45-PR45.pdf
* 94% of youth in correctional facilities reported being sexually abused by female staff. http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/svjfry09.pdf
* Among inmates reporting staff sexual misconduct, ~ 65% reported a female aggressor. http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/svpjri0809.pdf
* 50% of homeless youth reported being sexually abused by a female. http://www.nursing.ubc.ca/PDFs/ItsNotWhatYouThink.pdfAll
I’m guessing you’ll just skate over this comment too. You demand other people ‘inform’ themselves but when presented with facts that oppose your beliefs, you deny, ignore and dismiss.
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Remember codebuster’s article and the part about projection.
When ugly women obsess over rape, they are revealing what they wish to do to men.
I consistently notice that no woman who is over a 7 in looks seems to be particularly worried about the vast rape culture we live in, even though such a woman would be more at risk than an ugly woman.
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I would be convinced if any of these “women’s advocate” types would back up what they say with empirical evidence that can be easily verified and hard to refute.
I’ve heard many of the “child sex trafficking” fanatics say that 300,000 children are trafficked in the USA every year. Actually there is a government statistic that says 300,000 children are “at risk” for being trafficked…based on some far-fetched statistical gyrations. But that’s what they do because no one in the media questions them.
Show me there’s a major problem with men doing all kinds of horrible things to women and children in epidemic proportions and I’ll back down. Until then, based on my experience of hysterics falsifying or even making up statistics to get attention and money, I won’t believe any of them.
Where are the millions of victims? What’s law enforcement doing to stop it, if its that out of control? Why don’t we here about it every night on the evening news. Women are being raped everywhere, everyday. Children are being turned into prostitutes. Husbands are beating their wives. If there’s some kind of mayhem out there, I’m just not seeing it. Show me!
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@TB…
Sorry but I need to correct this. You statement should read…
“94% of youth sexually abused in correctional facilities reported being by abused by female staff.”
I don’t believe 94% of all youth in those facilities are sexually abused regardless of gender.
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Dear All:
Excellent discussion. A few comments.
The movie, “Knocked Up” is in typical Feminist congigation: It’s in the passive, which avoids female accountability. The girl who became pregnant was not passive: she actively engaged in sexual intercourse and, as such, actively conceived.
Let’s maintain an obstinance to Feminist standard commentary. Once again, let’s not gender-designate, “BS” when it comes from a female. In that case it’s, “CS.” And, once established in the gender culture that females do create erroneous comments, etc., let’s gender-neutralize it (or, better conceived, “gender-inclusivize it”) as , “Bovine Sh*t”–and, in such a case, not abbreviate it to the same-old, “BS” as such would be a backstep in the gender war). Let’s face it, both females and males contribute to Ms.Information and Ms.sterInformation: the hateful propaganda re male babyhood, boyhood and manhood and rape over the years proves such.
Similarly, the gender-designated concept of, “barbarity” (beardedness) should also be opposed. One could create gender-sensitivity training by reversing gender designations and coining phrases such as, “breastarity” or, say, “vaginaism.”
On the encouraging side, Feminist commentary in the Feminist media recently pointed out that whereas Feminists such as that of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi had become activists after raising their children, today, Feminists in the House become such as they are, “raising” their children through, “daycare” (don’tcare). As such, they are getting worse.
On the male side, I’ve noticed that the decision to become activists in men’s issues has likewise become lowered. I only became an activist at the age of 39.
Just last week, as I was substitute-teaching in a gym class in a K-6 government school, at the end of the period, the students were coming out of the changerooms and leaving for their homeroom.
As one boy exited the male changeroom, he stated out loudly, “Boys Rule: Girls Drool.” Such was in reaction to two evident things as evidenced by the following, observed developments.
The boy was followed by another boy who declared verbally and in similar volume, “I’m a traitor to boys.” Immediately following that, a girl came out of the female changeroom and followed the boys to the homeroom while declaring quite openly while speaking to the second boy who had declared his treachery to boys, “Thanks for hitting (boy’s name withheld).”
The above evidenced the following:
1. The first boy was a decided male-rights activist against the serial bigotry of a girl (a girl who was quite pretty)–he was willing to stand against her beauty and the boys who obeyed it.
2. The second boy recognized his individuality against the category of boys: he openly conceptualized that he was a quisling to his gender, a, “mangina.”
3. The girl recognized that he female beauty was quite powerful in obtaining male violence against justified male protest against her being a female supremacist.
Indeed, the threshold for gender consciousness and role choice in the gender culture is pushed quite low, meaning that the willingness to become educated and active in such matters will bring with it an even longer Net Present Value of Anti-Misandry/Anti-Feminism.
Again, thanks to so many for excellent commentary and links: you do well for the dignity, competence and credibility of the good men’s movement.
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Not exactly to the point, but it was a damn good game.
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I don’t know about that.
Rapists look for vulnerability and opportunity, not attractiveness.
7+ women are usually going to have a man around to protect them.
Rarely is an attractive woman going to be alone, at home or out at night.
Ugly women worry about it more because they’ll tend to be more vulnerable, or alone and without a male.
The safest place a woman can be is with a man.
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Thanks for the correction, gwallan.
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The first commercial I saw tonight after the introduction of the teams was for the new movie Just Go With It. The very first scene is a hot woman with big jiggling boobs walking out of the water on the beach, all in slow motion so we can appreciate the jiggling boobs in all their glory. Ahhh hahaha. Must have been a nice thorn in Josh Jasper’s side.
Commercial is popular on Youtube now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1IxFaArN2E&feature=aso
This poor woman! Being objectified like this! They must have put a gun to her head to appear in that scene.
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Avenger,
Your looks totally fit with your personality
Lara, the fact that you even commented on it shows that you got the gina tingles. But don’t worry, I don’t pork old porkers.
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I don’t give a rat’s ass if this ‘Josh’ was a Marine or could leap tall buildings in a single bound – his name is Josh. ‘Nuff said.
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“crella February 6, 2011 at 18:52
with females like Lara and crella
I hope you mean ‘Laura’ not ‘Lara’….”
Crella, she seems too stoopid to know what she means. Just more of the tediously predictable thrashing and gnashing we’ve seen from feminidiots over the years. Too stoopid to even comprehend the moderation policy here.
Most whores are women! Mothers- stop raising your daughters to be whores!
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OT:
CNN: Selling the Girl Next Door. “Single mom” teacher, another baby 2 different men, no father, 13 year old daughter sold as an escort, typical piano music slowly played to evoke emotion. Same blond reporter who got craigslist escort section shut down going after backpage. The show had the usual femmie shouting at and shaming programmers, mechanics, and normal guys, just wanting to get laid, who were unlucky to be busted for it. None of them were convicted of being with an underage girl, just women who knew the deal and sold their services. 3 of the women interviewed who still ho at the bunny ranch in Vegas were underage, so they got TV time to show man bad woman good. The other 30 women of course weren’t underage…but they weren’t interviewed.
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@TFH
“I consistently notice that no woman who is over a 7 in looks seems to be particularly worried about the vast rape culture we live in, even though such a woman would be more at risk than an ugly woman.”
This and the fact that women have atleast a dozen method of birth control yet…..
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One of the must disgusting piece of shit that only feminist can produce.
Blrp.. Sorry BLrp.. I go to vomit now.
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Riverview Center is promoting violence against baby boys.
It’s not much more complicated than that.
They need to be named and shamed for this. Pickets, lawsuits, the whole nine yards. Let’s go all feminist on them.
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So we live in a beating on women and kids society and we have to change it by turning off football and putting boys on drugs in school to make them better girls. Is that basically it from the “progressive” freaks.
if you want to stop rape how about looking at the backgrounds of rapists in prison. Was watching football the problem, or was it the one thing in common that the majority of them shared – the fact they were molested as kids by women. I know that pointing that out would mean according to feminists that you’re blaming women for rape, but maybe it would simply mean that looking at sexual abuse holistically means facing the fact that men and women abuse and abused men and women often pass the abuse on. In the case of female sexual abuse of boys it can create rapists and in the worst abuse cases serial killers. But I guess looking at sexual abuse in an overall way instead of solely at man on woman rape is less easy to do when your agenda is men abuse women, women are abused and that’s it.
Probably the most sure fire way of fundamentally reducing rape is by looking at ALL sexual abusers, women included, and therefore looking at how rapists are actually created and holding female pedos accountable and protecting boys from them. You look at how female pedos, just like male ones, are created by sexual abuse and how they pass it on and in the case of female ones often create rapists. However as feminists would see it as attacking and blaming women it would be totally taboo. The reality is it would simply be saying that people abuse and people get abused and all kinds of different results and affects are forthcoming. It’s ironic that the people who are supposedly most concerned with combating rape are the same bigots most foresquare in the way of ever fundamentally taking on it’s causes. Feminists say rape is a power crime of men over women, but sexual abuse is a power crime of person over person and adult man on women rape is one of the many manifestations of sexual abuse.
Maybe if this Josh cunt wants to tackle rape and involve male babies maybe he can show one being molested by a woman, and say this is the road to another rapist. Somehow that kind of reality wouldn’t be so “progressive” though. Lets blame football.
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Oh, by the way, I’m guessing I’m not the only one who thinks SMS’s comment: ” It’s not comfortable for you to be challanged” [sic] ( . . . I make enough spelling errors on my own
) is ultra-pure, crystalline projection.
Hilarious, isn’t it?
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PMS said
“Men all over the country are involved in the men’s movement to end men’s violence against women.”
No. Pussified mangina runts like you who tear down the aggressive sexual displays of better men ’cause you can’t compete with such sexual displays ’cause you’re pussified mangina runts all over the country are involved in the ‘men’s movement’ to tear down the aggressive sexual displays of better men ’cause you can’t compete with such sexual displays ’cause you’re pussified mangina runts.
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@Keyster
“Ugly women worry about it more because they’ll tend to be more vulnerable, or alone and without a male.
The safest place a woman can be is with a man.”
Keyster, true but it’s more like “Ugly women worry about it more because their rapists tend to be not alphas but betas”.
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Their web provider:
http://www.365advantage.com/
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I flagged the you tube video As “Hateful or abusive”, I felt that was appropriate, I also commented. Maybe a response video is in order?
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Please be aware that the (alleged) gender bigot Josh is yapping nonsense on his blog.
Make sure you read it to know to be aware of what sort of person we are dealing with.
Ask him if he has (allegedly) stop beating his wife as well.
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Mr. Josh, we know you are secretly reading this, and looking for out of context quotes.
We wish to end domestic violence completely!
Why do you think that women are not capable of violence? Do you (Mr Josh) feel they are inferior and not capable of the full range of human emotions and actions? You therefore are sexist and need to self-flagellate.
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@paigeu
I think it is a strong possibility is that if this tactic begins being used more frequently by the feminist data distortion industry, it will elicit more violence by mothers against their male offspring. This Josh character does not seem to think these things through. Perhaps he was Joe Biden’ed when he was young (beaten and brainwashed into submission by his female relatives)
Although that violence is fairly rare (like violent rape itself, in fact) it’s already known that boy children are treated more harshly and abused more frequently by their mothers than girl children.
I wonder if the Riverview Center accepts male Domestic Violence victims and their children. I’m willing to bet that they are as sexist on that as everything else, in defiance of the law.
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Did y’all expect anything different?
They wore pink earlier this year remember.
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Considering the incredible co$t per second of advert time,I have to question who is really funding this perversion.
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If Josh is really about helping both genders equally (as he claims)..
He should prove that by making a comparable ad about something that women do. The choice of what (female violence against males, denying children access to their fathers, cuckolding, etc.) is up to him.
If he avoids making such an ad by claiming that women don’t do anything worthy of any such ad, that proves his self-loathing misandry.
I dare you, Josh, I DOUBLE DARE you…
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And run said ad on Lifetime, and during Oprah’s show.
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@freebird
Female supremacist organizations have, aside from government, huge support from a couple of NGOs with very deep pockets, one of which is the Rockefeller foundation.
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I wonder if Jasper has considered that identity is also learned. People aren’t born thinking they’re natural rapists, but if they’re taught from infancy to identify as potential rapists through commercials like this one, they’re going to learn that message.
When the time comes that they’re nineteen and falling over drunk at a frat party, and whatever girl they happen to grab for support gets upset and responds with her equally well learned sexual assault shtick, what does Jasper suppose a drunk nineteen-year-old who’s been taught he’s a rapist since infancy is going to think?
Could it be “Heck, I’m already a rapist and going to jail for this one, so I might as well get what I’m gonna pay for”?
Good job Jasper, keep teaching those kids that rape is in their blood and let’s see what happens.
Hot debate. What do you think?
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@sirreaper
I’m sure that Bernard Chapin, among others, could put something together, to answer in a monologue style, quickly.
But do we have any MRAs or supporters in the the Television or Broadcast industry, that could put something of equivalent, broadcast grade, commercial quality together?
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Lara, who asked you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieRaSlquRlc&NR=1
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John David Galt (from further up the page)
Yes it is true we Brits (as you so charmingly call us) think that Baseball is a game for girls – our version of it is called rounders. The boys play Cricket, and believe me when the ball – and they are very hard – is being bowled at you fast, they can do you a lot of injury if they hit you – which is why these days the professionals wear eye protection. (Even at school one always wore a ‘box’ – a cod-piece really – and pads and gloves).
Curiously – I notice – in the U.S., Soccer (what we call football) tends to be a girls game. Ice Hockey we leave to the Canadians.
Absolutely off topic, when I was in the States, I discovered that Americans do not know how to kick a ball – I had always assumed kicking a ball was instinctual – but it is not; it is learned behaviour.
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-Just to even things up a bit:
She’s deceitful.
She’s weak.
She’s hysterical.
She’s a perpetual victim in her own writing, and…
One day she will take your children, your house,
and your dog, and land you in jail.
-But she was’n’t always this way…
What are You teaching Your daughters?
Redefine what it means to be a woman,
’cause false rape accusations
begins with..her…
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The main problem with the MRA response to all this misandrist trash is that they don’t often investigate the psychological root of where it comes from. Why do these women see ‘rape’ everywhere? Why is it so massively blown out of proportion compared to reality? The answer lies in their choice of partners (and hence their myopia). When all your “boyfriends” have beaten you or had aggressive sex with you, it’s only a hop and a step to seeing rape behind every bush.
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Don’t get mad. Get even.
Save the video.
Raise PR hell.
Then Josh will kiss goodbye to his voluntary welfare business.
P.S: He was an ex-marine? What did I say about most military men being white knights?
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Soccer a.k.a the real football/futbol only seems to be a girl’s game because you let your daughters play, encourage them to play, encourage others to watch them play, and provide facilities for them to play.
Strong on delusions of grrl power, advantaged by Title IX, and hey presto, soccer is a girl’s game in America! Instead of learning how to dribble, pass and shoot a ball, girls should have spent their time learning how to cook, clean and sew.
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I’m just waiting for one of these crazy bitches to charge their infant son with sexual assault for sucking her tit- think it can’t happen? Would you bet on it?
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Off topic:
Maybe some of you haven’t watched this “call to men”:
http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/fre_fr/tony_porter_a_call_to_men.html
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From here.
http://riverviewcenter.poweredby365.com/Contact.aspx
Board Members
John Donovan donovajb@mercyhealth.com
Jennifer Vandigo jennifervandigo@yahoo.com
Joyce Connors tconnors@mchsi.com
Beth Klipping bklipping@hotmail.com
Danielle Gratton dgratton@dupaco.com
Peg Greimann dpgreimann@sbcglobal.net
Judith Wehrle jbw7@mchsi.com
Lenore Howard fishingcamels@mchsi.com
Shirley Rosenthal SHIRLEY.ROSENTHAL@usbank.com
Whitney Jacque wjacque@octhomaslaw.com
Lynn Sutton suttonlynn@msn.com
Keith Habel khabel@honkamp.com
Brian Cooper bcooper@wcinet.com
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For those who wish to read my entry in the mangina hall of fame and the email I wrote to the hateful board members of this hateful organisation? Please feel free to click here:
http://www.peternolan.com/Forums/tabid/420/forumid/57/threadid/698/scope/posts/Default.aspx
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OT from Slashdot:
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/02/06/1926206/Woman-Gets-Revenge-Courtesy-of-Google-Images#comments
Lots of up-votes to pro-male posts no the first page as I write this. More forward progress!
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http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments=1&v=6bY4uoDV_pU
wow the comments are overwhelmingly negative against these arseholes who made this add. I wonder how long before they take the ad down and try to pretend it never existed.
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I agree. I know that within the MRM, there are some who have assets, yet we don’t see advertisements, utilization of media, etc, that delivers the message.
I’m on a pink list, but I don’t regret anything that I did to get on it. At least I had fun getting pink-listed. So if I’m prepared to trash a career by standing up for what I believe in, I’m not too sure what the big deal is in spending a couple thou on an arse-kicking advertisement.
Or even starting up another radio station, like Paul Elam is doing. Apparently he only needed $5,000. Is that all it took? Who among our more financially secure members don’t have a measley $10,000 to play with? You can have some fun with that. Make some satires mocking feminists with “this is what a feminist looks like”. We can have a field-day. I see a whole production line of satires mocking feminism in the spirit of Monty Python’s Flying Circus (a UK comedy skit). Rock bands. Dudes fired up about the injustices and singing their hearts out. There’s potential for whole industries. We can have fun with this. There’s just so much to make fun of. It’s fun being right. And it can be profitable.
So what’s stopping us?
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Did you guys see this one? Same treatment please.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79yXx64BKNk&feature=related
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I just have to read SMS’ comments and I feel a satire coming on. Feminists are funny.
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I went back over, it’s been about 10 hours since I commented, it’s getting pounded into the ground. Good work.
I liked this one I just found-
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Nothing is stopping me. I’ve put out more than enough information to prove the the crimes of the family court go up to Kevin Rudd/Julia Gillard in Australia and Brian Cowan and Mary McAleese in Ireland. I have also produced the book and the associated documents and forms as evidence as to what I did and how that turned out.
The BIG question I have is this. Why aren’t men now simply using the book written through me to rebut the legal presumption made by your slave masters that you are slaves? Running a radio station is fine. But with if, instead of only ONE MAN rescinding consent to pay child support, 100 MEN here did the same and reported results. 1,000? 10,000? 100,000?
We all know millions of men pay alimony and child support. Right? Well? Why? It’s been proven it does not have to be paid. I proved it.
What is stopping men from declaring their sovereignty and standing up on their hind legs and defending their rights?
FEAR. That is what it is. And Aldus Huxley noted that the ‘ruling oligarchy’ use fear as the weapon of choice to make people do what they wanted. That is why we live in a world where fear is pumped into society by the lame stream media 24×7.
They have created in men the FEAR of authority and in women the FEAR of men. In this way the women run to the authorities to have men abused by the ‘authorities’. Once you see the loop it’s very clear.
Ways to break that loop?
1. Women held accountable for their perjury in courts created by men.
2. The ‘authorities’ held accountable for any arrest made without a signed affidavit.
3. The ‘authorities’ held accountable for any incarceration performed without the signature of a magistrate under common law supported by testimony under oath.
All these other ‘wake people up’ strategies are useless.
How many men in the world are ‘awake’ to the crimes committed against men? Millions.
How many will sit on a jury to give a man a path to justice? Very, very few.
How many men here have bothered to educated themselves based on the work I have published? Very, very few.
Give that men here are supposed to be among the best and brightest? Why would you think ‘waking more men up’ would make a difference when those who are refuse to step up to the task at hand and set an example as I have?
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This is true. The first one (women held accountable) is a variation of 2 and 3, in that the authorities (judiciary) must exercise the laws wrt perjury.
Bottom line? It all comes down to making authorities accountable. And how do we make authorites accountable? There is only one way, and that’s by penalizing them in some way. That’s what feminists did. That’s what every movement does. Strikes, demonstrations, individuals putting their butts on the line. If men do not collectively rise up, then nothing is ever going to happen. It’s not just a matter of “waking more men up”. It’s a matter of firing them up so that they believe in what they are commiting to.
At the time that I visited your site to try to follow how anyone can rescind consent to pay child support, I came away unconvinced. That’s not how gubmints work. Their constitutions set the terms, and there are no terms guaranteeing freedoms beyond the constitution. The impression that I came away with was that you are playing a high-risk strategy that can backfire on you in a big way. You are poking at a sleeping bear.
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Correct Opus. Real men play cricket. When the ball wizzes past your nose at 160kmp/h you know you are in a test of great skill. Not that I ever faced the likes of Michael Holding. When that ball hits you. It hurts. Especially if unprotected.
When I was 14 I used to play with the men on Saturday afternoon to get better at the game. Learn from the old guys. Usually I would be in the outfield to chase the ball around. One day my captain moved to 4th slip as our fast bowler was on fire and the older guys didn’t have good enough eye-sight to field there. This lower order batsman tried this very exhuberant cut shot and got it right off the meat of the bat by some fluke. The ball travelling at a VERY rapid rate of knotts hit me right in the family jewels. I didn’t even see it coming. Never picked it up at all. And I was a good 15 meters from the bat. That takes ‘balls’..
Americans have no idea about any of this!
And when we play football we don’t wear any of that girly protection shit either. When NFL players came to Australia and saw our Australian Rules Football in the 80s they were flabergasted.
Unfortunately? AFL and cricket has now been turned into a girlie game. I can’t stand to watch it any more. That they gave Freddie and KP a hard time for having a few drinks after the win in the ashes series in England a few years back? What a crock of shit that was. That was the most interesting ashes series for 20 years. Freddie and KP should receive knighthoods for their exploits. And your recent win against the worst Australian team to takje the field (out side of the WSC period) shows you just what happens when you try and make cricket ‘female friendly’. You get girly men like Ricky Ponting and Michael Clarke heading up the team. Warney had more MAN in his little finger than those two put together.
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The only Domestic Abuse I know of relating to the Super Bowl was the Pepsi Max ad title “Love Hurts” where the wife abuses the husband and caps off the ad by throwing a can of Pepsi at him, but missing and seriously wounding a pretty white girl. Then they give the punchline by showing the husband and wife running away.
There’s no way in hell that such an ad would be put on TV, let along during the SB, if it had the genders or races reversed.
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Quite Right Peter Andrew:Nolan. I did not mention the slips (no protection) but just as dangerous, because I am aware that trying to explain the rules of Cricket to someone unfamiliar with it is nye- impossible. e.g. how can you explain that although both teams wear exactly the same ‘strip’ there is not and can never be any confusion!
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Men have forgotten that the ‘authorities’ are delegated servants. Whatever an ‘authority’ can do? So can a sovereign man. That is by definition. The ‘authority’ comes from the act of taking an oath and then operating the public office according to the oath of office.
All sovereign men can make arrests on the basis of an affidavit or being an eyewitness prepared to make an affidavit. A police officer can have no more power than he is delegated.
A sovereign man can serve as a magistrate as long as he takes the oath of the office. That is all the qualification needed. Sovereign men can sit on juries and determine guilt or innocence and issue remedy instructions to sieze the property of a guilty party who does not voluntary relinquish property according to the remedy instruction. It’s all in the magna carta.
My question would be. Why do men here not believe these things that are true?
Are you simply such cowards and afraid of your delegated servants that you are not willing to claim your right to life, liberty, and property and defend your rights against ALL enemies, both foreign and domestic?
Many brave men are standing up to be counted all around the world. But their numbers are small. The MRA area and all the ‘fathers rights’ groups have at LEAST 10x if not 100x the numbers of the free man area. Should you learn the techniques of being sovereign and this was applied to all men who were robbed by teh family courts? You would be free inside 2 months. But no. You want to start radio stations and TALK more rather than actually DO something. It’s actually very sad to see this.
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Opus. I have many times tried to explain cricket to these Yanks and Can-eh-dians. It is a lost cause. I think one has to be born into it and immersed in the game from a young age to really understand it.
More on topic. I have never met a woman who understands cricket because they have never played the game to any significant level of expertise. At one time the Australian Womens wicket-keeper was resident in my home town. She was ‘average’ compared to the other first grade keepers in our town. There were 5/6 men in our town who were at LEAST her peer if not better. She put down just as many as the average keeper off the fast bowlers. The only area where she was a little better than average was on the stumpings with slow bowlers.
The reason for all this is simple. Men have 6.5x more grey cells and these are the cells of data processing. Balls in flight take a LOT of data processing in the brain to predict where the ball will be to an accuracy that you can hit or catch the ball. Women simply do not have the brain processing power to do this. This is why women can not bat in cricket. They simply can not get the bat in front of the ball fast enough if it is a man bowling fast.
You can see this in all activities that require large amounts of brain processing. Ball sports, shooting, flying, chess, software development. Anywhere that large amounts of brain processing is needed to excel women are absent. This includes where strength is not at question like chess, card games etc. So, obviously statistics are not the strong suite of women…and it shows.
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These people are creeps and perverts.
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Completely off topic but I have just been told this joke which is great:
It is Xmas, and a man’s wife has bought him two ties. Being the dutiful man that he is he puts on one of the ties, and his wife says to him: ‘why don’t you put on the other’.
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SMS—
It’s physically difficult for women to commit rape in any ordinary or traditional sense. The man has to get an erection for there to be penetration. Yeah women can anally rape with a strap on, but that appeals to very few women’s sexuality.
Women do commitment what women can report as “sexual abuse”, to men quite frequently – fondling or checking out genitals, patting butts, and other of the nonsense “unwanted touching” (unless it keeps going on and on after being told to stop). It’s just that men just about never try to make a crime out of it. Mangina.
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Ugly women worry about it more because they’ll tend to be more vulnerable, or alone and without a male.
Not quite, Keyster. I think it has more to do with being deprived. It matters a lot more when your not getting it, than when you are getting it all the time. It’s analagous to being rich versus poor. Poor people make a bigger deal of what they don’t have (and being rich) than rich people do. Rich people only notice it after they lose it.
TFH, it is a form of projection, though. They are projecting what they are missing. They are projecting what they would like to have done to them, rather than what they would like to do to men.
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Gents,
one of the board members is a man named Brian Cooper. Business details as follows:
Feel free to let him know what you think about being a board member that creates adds blatantly labelling a baby boy a ‘potential rapist’.
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SMS – “Only 2% of all reported rapes are false, and the FBI estimates that only 37% of rapes are even reported.”
Standars gender-feminist hate stats which are based on absolutely nothing.
Do you know where the “2%” claim comes from?
I do.
Susan Brownmiller pulled it out of (well, we’ll go with “thin air” to be charitable) for her book in 1975. When asked about it, she then claimed to have heard it mentioned by someone in law enforcement, and that it was supposedly based on the (“guesstimate” of the) percentage of false reporting rate for all crimes. Of course, no such study had ever been previously done.
No studies have ever supported the “25″ canard. In fact, studies by note feminist Dr. Kanin found that rapes were falsely reported at over 40%. Other academic studies have also found a similar pattern of fairly hight rates of false reporting of rapes.
Even some more recent studies, following the criteria suggested by those advocating on behalf of female victims, which requires that the accuser specifically recant the allegation in order for it to be classified as “false” still find false reporting rates of 8-12% (and “unfounded” reports at over 20%).
So, the 35-year-old “2%” canard has never been confirmed. In fact, it’s been repeatedly debunked. Yet, it’s an example of repeating a lie often enough that it comes to be widely believed. It turns out that the number you cling to with religious fervor was nothing more than a wishful guess, which if based in anything, was also based on the of-hand reporting of yet another “guesstimate”.
That’s really just the tip of the iceberg in understanding just how often, and for what can often be the most trivial of reasons, women have made false allegations of having been raped.
I seriously doubt you have the courage to do so, but I’d recommend that you check out the extensive archives at The False Rape Society.
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SMS – ”Slwerner – I’m not making comments on the YouTube ad, rather, this “website.””
Poster Hughman</I, on February 6, 2011 at 17:10, comment on the YouTube video:
”I’m loving the serious butthurt the video is getting. 300 hits and 5 pages of comments, were the only ‘pro’ statements are by the user who posted it. Expect comments to be disabled within hours.”
Just because you failed to put two and two together [hint – “that video”, “300 hits and five pages” were obviously NOT referring to this site] doesn’t mean that you’re in any way vindicated in your comment. You were simply wrong about what that comment was referring to. Your “FAIL”, not anyone else’s.
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Codebuster. What is there to be ‘convinced’ about? An ‘order’ from a judge/magistrate is an ‘order’ under the Bills of Exchange act in common law countries. It is an irrevocable order/request for the provision of a service. You are entitled to bill for providing the ordered/requested service. You have no legal or lawful obligation to deliver the service until your bill is paid. Men are doing this in other areas. I was first to do it this way in the FC. Other men are simply denying the jurisdiction of the courts and refusing to pay.
You think it is an ‘accident’ that the word for ‘order’ as in ‘order from a superior officer in the army’ is an accident? You hear ‘order’ and you hear ‘command’. I heard order and I hear ‘request’. If you hear ‘command’ you are in the mind set of a slave. Why can they command you if you are not a slave?
I did not pay one cent in alimony and/or child support. I am prepared to put that on an affidavit. There is not much more I can do to ‘convince’ you. By the way. I risked jail and they stole my house for me to prove this. Yet you are ‘not convinced’. What do you want? You want the judge to write you a letter telling you that the reason he has not persued me is that the bill works? Don’t hold your breath.
Their consitution only applies to THEM. You define your OWN rights. Why would you ask someone else to tell you what rights you have? That is the position of a child. ‘Mummy, what am I allowed to do?’. Crediting Steve Deluca for sending me this:
The only question for you to decide for yourself codebuster is this. Are you a MAN?
I am. That is why I have defined my own rights and will defend my own rights. I used to be a slave. I didn’t like it once I found out I was.
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WOW et al.
The philosophy of the Riverview center is to assert that only men are capable of and guilty of Domestic Violence, and thus by, infantilizing women, and dealing with only half the problem they are in fact perpetuating it. They are doing so in order to perpetuate their abuse industry which in fact can only survive and thrive by expanding the number of clients they support.
The center lives and thrives on the misery of people.
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WOW:
Wow. Nice rebuttal of all that was written here. Wow.
Wow. Oh you added something:
Wow. You mean, there’s so much more work to be done until everyone is indoctrinated with anti-male propaganda.
Wow.
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Doug. Do your research. There are MANY cases of nurses sexually arousing and having sex with incapacitated men with severe medical conditions ala ‘The World According to Garp Style’. In these cases the men get a child support bill and the woman gets ‘state benefits’. Stephen Baskerville reels off cases like this in his book Taken Into Custody.
Further, women who rape boys (and this often includes giving them alcohol to impare their judgement) and manage to get themselves pregnant in the process will be given child support and state benefits, not time in jail.
I am aware of a case in Australia where a man (claims) with an inherited disease had determined he did not want children for fear of passing along the disease. He was not specific about the disease. This was on the SMH blogs. He allowed a female co-worker to stay over at his house after a christmas party. He felt it better to ‘protect’ her rather than letting her find her own way home in her drunken stupor. She raped him in his unconscious and drunken state and got herself pregnant.
No man here would doubt that if a man raped a drunken woman in her sleep after a christmas party that that would be rape and every man here would say he should do time. Yet the man is forced to pay child support to a woman who is CLEARLY his rapist by ANY OBJECTIVE STANDARD.
Gentlemen. The Illuminati have long promoted women as ‘sugar and spice and everything nice’ in order for the manginas to become ‘willing slaves’ to the women. You think it is a ‘co-incidence’ that women have been painted as so sainted for so long? Mary mother of Jesus ring a bell? She is sainted for WHAT exactly? Oh, that’s right, she had a baby. Whoppie do. Is JOSEPH sainted in the same way? Nope. Oh….that’s right…because he was not really the father…..sure….
Can anyone see a pattern here? Women are sainted for having a baby, the father is a sideshow. It is required to be that way to enslave the betas. Well? Let the betas be enslaved.
Have any of you men realised what you get as a ‘reward’ for being married? You get an ‘old woman’. What do you get for ‘punishment’ if you don’t marry? You get to date as many woman as you want and live in peace and quiet. I am tesimony to this. I can tell you which I prefer given the experience of living with a woman for 20 years. Women hate on me for saying that. You know. Those ‘independent’ women hate on me for suggesting men allow women to remain ‘independent’. How about that?
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So Tony Porter is a self confessed child abuser, of his OWN son. He also relates a story about lying about having had sex with a young woman to ‘impress his mates’ so he is also a liar.
Yet this is the man put forward telling OTHER men how they should raise their sons? Hhmmmm. How about they present an honest man of honour and integrity who knows that lying is wrong? How about they present a man who knows that abusing children is wrong? Might that be too hard to do?
Further. His comment about how would a 12 year old boy feel about being told he was playing fotoball like a girl would destroy him? Tony poses the question ‘what are we teaching our boys about girls?’ to the scripted applause of the stupid women and manginas in the audience. What he does NOT say is the truth. That even a 12 year old boy knows that girls are TERRIBLE at football and to be called a girl at football is to be called terrible at something the boy really wants to be good at.
There is a reason why ‘you are playing like a girl’ is the deepest and most cutting remark possible to a sportsman and ‘you are acting like a woman’ is one of the deepest and most cutting remarks to a man. It is because we inherently and deeply know that women are mostly useless at the things men compete and excel at. And to be called a ‘girl’ or a ‘woman’ is to be compared with people who are terrible at what you are trying to excel at. Mangina, lying, child abusers like Tony Porter would deflect your attention elsewhere.
On men crying? My dad was ‘brought up tough’. When I did the eulogy for his mother, my grandmother, I cried as I presented the eulogy. After the burial, as we were walking back to the cars the conversation went like this.
In that instant he ‘got it’. The eulogy was perfect. That I cried was perfect. That I could do it in front of more than 1000 people of my home town and demonstrate my love for my grandmother and the love all us grandchildren had for her was perfect. Many of the other grandsons didn’t want to be considered as they all knew there was no way they could deliver the eulogy because of their love and their humanity. Takes a man very comfortable in his own skin to deliver the biggest speech of his life when he knows that he will cry in the middle of it in front of pretty much everyone he cares about. My Dad and I then walked off with our arms around each other. Father and son bonded by the loss of someone they loved dearly.
Many of the old men later came to me and told me they had never seen a speech like that. I told each one of them that all credit was due my father and my family.
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SMS. Your problem with this LIE is that front line police officers who investigate rape testify under anonymity that they almost NEVER see a real rape case.
One officer reported that in 10 years investigating ‘rape’ he had only ever seen one genuine case. He related that he knew the instant he looked in her eyes she was genuine. He related he NEVER saw another woman who had that look in her eye while investigating rapes. He testified that he investigated HUNDREDS of rape cases and never once saw another ‘real rape’…..in TEN YEARS.
The FACTS are that the VAST MAJORITY, and it may even be 90%+, of rape accusations are false as men understand rape. Women understand rape to be ‘I changed my mind’.
Men raping men is FAR more common than men raping women. But this is NEVER discussed. It’s all about ‘women are victims’ and ‘men are perpetrators’. It is never about ‘men are victims’. Not even when someone like me publishes all documents proving the crimes against me.
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“Why do these women see ‘rape’ everywhere? Why is it so massively blown out of proportion compared to reality?”
It’s the mass media that does it.
Because sex sells.
And if it happens to be about men victimizing women and children, it sells even more.
Local news story lead-in #1:
“Two people were injured, 0ne critically, in a house fire early this morning in the upper westside district……” YAWN…!
Local news story lead-in #2:
“A woman claims she was sexually assaulted while jogging through an upper westside neighborhood last night. Police are looking for a hispanic male in his early 30′s….” MORE! MORE! GIVE US MORE!
If you don’t go with the “victim of sex” story, your competition will. It’s all about advertising dollars and ratings.
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SMS–
Of course serious violence against women (and men) should be punished. And yeah many or most men tend to feel more protective of women, instinctually. However there were already laws before VAWA (the federal Violence Against Women Act) against significant violence except in self defense. They are called assault and battery statutes.
VAWA is an abomination. It makes a husband’s or cohabiting bf’s no injury return slap, or return shove, a crime. It’s a crime even if he’s been slapped by her three times before, as hard as she could — which is absurd. Utterly absurd. It’s all based on the totally unproven assertion that even trivial levels of so called violence always escalate. Which is merely part of feminist ideology, and also absurd.
It forces the police regardless of their assessment of the overall situation and despite her complete lack of injury, to arrest the man, book and fingerprint him, and hold him for arraignment. The same will happen even if she merely calls 911 and says she’s afraid her husband or boyfriend will slap or hit her back – or hit her because he’s yelling at her after discovering her infidelity. She can be furiously raging drunk and he not and the same thing will happen. She doesn’t have to give any believable reason for this belief; she can be lying with no evidence on her side – and the same thing will happen. Even is she says she doesn’t want her husband or bf arrested, just that he be calmed down or scarred etc., he will be anyway.
Not all of this (the police judgment as to what happened part) is the letter of VAWA, but VAWA also funds domestic violence propaganda training sessions in police departments across the country. The feminist hysterical public campaigning on the issue promotes the police leaning way over in one direction. This Josh Jasper mangina is working to add to that hysteria, and conflation of a return slap or shove, with badly bruised and bloodied faces, and endless intimidation. It’s all “domestic violence”. Hell radical feminists are now focusing on getting “domestic abuse” conflated with “domestic violence” so that even shouting or emotional abuse is criminalized (when done by men that is, regardless of the reason).
This mangina Josh Jasper is trying to add to that hysteria when the majority of VAWA arrests are over trivial alleged things.
Further after his arrest and night in jail, at the “hearing” the next day there is no hearing. Not under VAWA. The judge doesn’t hear from the man accused or his attorney at all. He can’t speak. Instead without him telling his side of the story, an automatic interim 90 day order of protection is slapped on him. Unless his wife or girlfriend moves out of the residence, even if he alone owns it or rents it, he can’t go back there and must move out at his expense. If he needs to retrieve some things, that can only be arranged by his lawyer when his wife’s not there. It’s a violation of the order of protection for him to even telephone, text or communicate in any way with his own wife!
The radical feminist theory that got that through is that abusive men can often intimidate or dominant their wives or gf’s into compliance. (Or maybe she loves him and it was just a very emotional shouting argument.) So on the basis of those few cases, all 911 calls by women alleging what VAWA defines incredibly broadly as “domestic violence”, automatically get this sort of order of protection. This total separation is explicitly designed by feminists to try to break the couple up — without “abuse” of any kind having even been adjudicated in a court of law.
Even if a court does eventually find that e.g. a slap occurred, what business is it of the state to try to break the couple up? Why isn’t that entirely up to her, without mandated periods of separation that she never asked for? Such is VAWA.
Even when his wife or gf calms down and maybe sobers up the next day, and she asks the DA that the charges be dropped and the order of protection lifted, they won’t be. They’re the state’s charges how. The only way they’ll be dropped and the temporary order of protection lifted is if she persists for three months in saying either she refuses to testify or that nothing happened.
During the three months the assistant DA for domestic abuse (an ardent feminist and almost always a woman) will repeatedly contact her and try to get her to change her mind, telling her that even “seemly minor” types of domestic abuse “always get worse and worse, and often turn into something truly dreadful, even murder” if they aren’t punished. Note this isn’t said just to a wife whose face has been severely beaten. This is said to a wife who lied about his slapping her. The ADA won’t believe her when she says she lied to 911. The ADA will have been taught by VAWA indoctrination training that “abused women usually lie to protect their abusers”.
The actual penalties beyond the order of protection under VAWA for no or minor injury violations aren’t very severe. (Though the middle class and up accused does have to hire a lawyer after that 911 call while she doesn’t – that’s a substantial fine right there.) The effort is to get him a criminal record so they will be more so if this or any other woman ever decides to use 911 against him again, even as a divorce tactic. Note that thug types who really beat up women aren’t much deterred by VAWA. They likely already have criminal records and their “careers” aren’t much effected by them. VAWA doesn’t add much or anything to battery penalties, though they tend to get actually meted out at the severe end of the range for domestic cases.
No what VAWA really is designed to do is intimidate middle class and up men from really pissing off their wives, no matter what the wives have done. All she’s got to do is call 911 and lie or exaggerate. As a side effect, it gives wives an increasingly used opening salvo to use in divorce, to move him out of the house.
Yes, VAWA should be repealed. Existing assault and battery laws, with current attitudes towards domestic violence, are more than enough, just as effective against serious abuse, and are fair towards men.
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http://s0.2mdn.net/1033942/PID_1529843_vwacademy_yt_masthead_970x250.jpg
Look at this ad picture on top of Youtube now. Notice the guy on the right, he looks like a schlub. His shirt is untucked, he’s wearing skinny jeans, and he’s standing on his tippy toes. He’s also folding his arms as if he doesn’t know what to do with himself. I’m tired of men being portrayed this way. Tired of it.
They tried to geekify the woman by having her wear glasses but she looks presentable and confident. I’m tired of this shit.
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crella–
Good insights. I agree.
The one thing I don’t agree with is that aggressive should be or used to be considered a negative trait in a man, necessarily. I do agree that feminists thought the unis and media have made aggressive a dirty word when applied to a man these days though. Or anyway that’s the default. Feminists have also ridiculed women being called aggressive; “that’s just what men who are afraid of “strong women” like to call them”.
The way it used to be is that aggressive was a good, manly trait in American culture, so long as it was controlled aggression, and usually for a good purpose. (Though aggressive gangsters also had their appeal.) Clint Eastwood, John Wayne and so on were aggressive but in a controlled way. Well so too is Daniel Craig today, but there are far fewer white guy personas of that type in the media these days for feminist and other PC reasons.
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What if both are equally drunk? And both had impaired judgement?
The man is held responsible, he’s considered the adult, the women the foolish child, even though she is physically an adult. Sounds like old fashioned Patriarchy to me.
Even with apparent consent before and during the act. However with buyers remorse again “equality” is thrown to the wolves. Women are equal, and above reproach, and requiring special protections, and superior. It’s a wonder that some people’s brains don’t explode with all these paradoxes being believed at the same time.
2) 73% of rapes are perpetrated by someone the victim knows, and the majority of rapes are not violent, so, yes, a percentage of those violent rapists may have a psychological disorder, but quite a few of them don’t. 3) Only 2% of all reported rapes are false, and the FBI estimates that only 37% of rapes are even reported.
Yes they do, yes they are. There are tons of men out there who physically incapable of raping, due to erectile dysfunction or other issues. The new definitions of rape can catch even these men in it’s net.
The problem is making consent so fluid that a reasonable person can’t discern it. When you begin to define the definition of rape downwards to sex she didn’t enjoy, or wasn’t sure about, you in fact begin criminalize normal people. Then when you use government enforced, star chambers run by pseudo intellectual, ideologues, that believe that people are always guilty if they have certain type of genitalia, then what do you have?
There are 4 times as many men killing themselves as women. Which sex do you suppose suffers more? Aren’t you in fact fighting to make sure that 6 times or 10 times as many men as women kill themselves?
When it comes to justice, both in the system, and the courts of public opinion, women usually get a pass and men usually get the hammer. How often do you hear about the public calling for execution or genital mutilation of females that rape little boys? Well? Never! In fact these little (12 year old) boys need quit school and get paper routes to pay child support to their rapist.
The truth is a problem for you because it disturbs your “woman as perpetual victim” internal narrative. You are likely hurting countless people (including women) with your impervious to logic fascist world-view, please get help.
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Feminists use images both visual and mental of very, very serious domestic violence and rape, and vastly inflated claims for their prevalence, to whip up hysteria over a non crisis, when both are much less prevalent today compared to times past when using the same definitions, and in this country (at least among our white and Asian populations) compared to most others. They then have used and continue to use that hysteria to criminalize what people hadn’t before these campaigns thought should be criminalized, such as having consensual sex when the woman is intoxicated but able to walk and talk, if she later thinks it’s to her advantage to call that date rape; or giving a no injury return shove or slap (Sean Connery told Barbara Walters sometimes he’s done it), or saying “I’m gonna kill you”, when obviously it’s said without any such intent.
Of course in the vast majority of such occurrences women don’t call 911. They’re not unhappy about the sex, or if they are embarrassed that the guy wasn’t hot enough in the light of day (guys call this beer goggles when they do it), or that it made them look slutty to her friends, or a cheater to her bf, she knows it’s her fault. Similarly yeah she’s not happy about the very emotional argument but she knows he didn’t really hurt her, that she punched or slapped him first, maybe lots, or that she was screaming in her face, and that it’s her fault too. And not such a big deal. So usually women don’t call 911.
But feminists have shifted the power to women to do so even in trivial and nonexistent cases.
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SMS–
Newsflash for you. Too drunk to consent means passed out or unable to talk coherently. If she can walk and talk, even if imperfectly, it’s not date rape. Consent means the absence in the end of non consent when she’s capable of saying and showing no.
It doesn’t mean merely inebriated with “impaired judgment”. I.e. with loosened social inhibitions, which is a large part of why most people who drink do so at parties, clubs and bars, etc. A very large percentage of sex for the first time with a new partner occurs in American when both parties are somewhat inebriated.
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SES—
http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/p/prevalence-of-false-rape-claims.html
Source: same web page.
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In other words the standard feminist line that only 2% of all rape allegations are false is lie and the FBI tells us so. It’s an ancient pre 1970s extremely cherry picked statistic that referred back then only to those rape prosecutions that went forward where the police where it was proven it was false without her withdrawing the complaint.
The number of false rape allegations has undoubtedly gone up enormously, given the empowering of women to claim rape when it legally isn’t, the general ideology of female victimhood and lack of responsibility, and the radical feminist rape hysteria atmosphere which encourages women to think they’ll always be believed and bludgeons men to always believe them.
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@ Erich
Thats right. We all must teach our sons to that chivalry is the worst form of sexism. Never protect a woman. All of our tax dollars are already going toward that end anyway.
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SES—
All men “objectify” women they don’t know if they’re hot, especially if they’re displaying a lot of skin. Visual attraction including to hot girls who are strangers is a wired in part of male sexuality. Some manginas just lie about it to fellow feminists. Parents should teach their children that some language feminists call sexist is acceptable in some circumstances. E.g. “she’s a hot babe”, or “you’re a hot babe” – once she’s already attracted. As well there are sex differences beyond the plumbing. Some are subtle and some not so subtle but they do make a difference, especially in sexuality and group statistics. Parents contra feminism should also teach their boys that they should act charmingly dominant with girls they’re involved with or attracted to – and for that matter just generally though in different ways in different social situations. Yeah feminism has sought to and has considerably emasculated American white guys – their target group.
Idiot feminist logic. Being attracted to a woman as a sexual object even before or without getting to know her well personally doesn’t lead to his wanting to force her to have sex against her will. It doesn’t make him think she’s nothing but an object for a man’s pleasure. If she’s hot she is that yes, but she’s also a person with her own rights and autonomy and feelings and objectives. As well she’s also a person who can give a man active, loving pleasure.
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SMS–
Your unfair, unbalanced, misandrous beliefs are repellent.
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@ SMS,
This is utter bullshit. Yesterday the _last_ link in the list was disabled and now shows up as a redirect on the page it links too.
You are peddling an agenda; you are not an advocate. Anyone who was an advocate of rape victims would allow these statistics to inform their advocacy in _some manner_.
It doesn’t have to be ‘men and women are equally likely to sexually abuse’, I would settle for a simple ‘we don’t know for sure.’
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I watched the game and the post game interviews and I was happy for the victors and was thinking of what a great feeling it must be for them to have won the super bowl, and I wondered what it must be like. But then, I thought back to my winning sole custody of my two young sons. A longer fight against bigger odds, with more at stake. With great emotion no doubt, the players were standing talking about their victory.. Me? When I read the decision, and then reread the decision because I c couldn’t allow myself to believe it and then be wrong… I was on the fucking ground. I will never cease having the deepest of sympathy’s for what men in our generation have had to go through as a result of the our fucked up women and our fucked up system. You can multiply the pain of female victims of violence by a hundred and it still won’t add up to what we’ve been through. God bless you guys and this site.
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SMS, a woman’s No means nothing. Here’s what Shakespeare wrote-
The wiles and guiles that women work,
Dissembled with an outward show,
The tricks and toys that in them lurk,
The cock that treads them shall not know.
Have you not heard it said full oft,
A woman’s nay doth stand for nought?
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@Sharp
WOW! Who knew?!? World of Warcraft was a feminist organization….
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I believe one way to get an upper-hand on women with respect to the rape issue is tell women something like this:
“Like 99% of all guys, I’ve never raped anyone, but if you were a guy, it may turn out to be the case that you would be among the 1%, so I have been proven myself to be less rapey than perhaps you.”
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SMS: All those links work.
You just have no credible rebuttal and you know it.
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Gentlemen, do not be distracted by this lying hypocrite. All the men here are well aware that in October 2009 I offered the opportunity to 200+ women on the Irish Freeman site to form a jury and fairly and justly try my ex for her crimes against me. The burden of proof being on me to present the proof of her crimes. I did this in a pseudonym. I wished to offer the opportunity to my criminal ex wife to face her trial and punishment in the relative private for the best benefit of my former children.
Three women in 6 months agreed to do this. One of those women reported being abused and attacked by other women.
Women, 200+ of them, women who claimed to be part of the ‘free man movement’, chose to deny me a path to justice. Women, 200+ of them from the International Womens Club in Dublin chose to hide the identity of a self confessed criminal woman to her employer and ‘likely new victim’. THOUSANDS more women hurled hatred and abuse at me.
Gentlemen. Women have had their chance to speak up and do what is right. They failed. To SMS and other women? I recommend you point to this. When SMS and her colleagues have made women 51% of these 6 categories. Then let her post here.
http://www.peternolan.com/Forums/tabid/420/forumid/14/threadid/483/scope/posts/Default.aspx
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And lets not forget what Shopenhauer said about women.
http://www.peternolan.com/Forums/tabid/420/forumid/58/threadid/593/scope/posts/Default.aspx
The true nature of women has been known for centuries. Evidence ‘The Assembly Women’, a greek play. It has only been through a massive PR effort that has been consistent over thousands of years that has promoted women as ‘good’ in the main.
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@Doug1, re: Kanin “found that in three years, 50 percent of the 64 rapes reported to campus police were determined to be false”
Since we’ve got visitors here today: 50/64 x 100% = 78% were determined to be false.
This is consistent with many other data sets, which seem to growing daily. My impression is that ~60-65% of rape allegations are false allegations (i.e., the woman making the allegation knew that no rape had occurred at the time she made the allegation) and ~20-30% of rape allegations are unfounded (e.g., “When I found out it wasn’t a real diamond, just cubic zirconia, I felt raaaaapppppeeeeeddd!!! And retroactively withdrew my previous consent!”, “eye rape”, “birth rape”, “emotional rape”, “cybersquatter rape”, “didn’t-ask-to-borrow-my-pencil rape”, “took-the-parking-space-I-was-waiting-for rape”, etc. ad nauseum). Note that police departments are more likely to pursue the former than the latter.
Anyway, it’s easy to see how the combination of false accusations + unfounded allegations consistently get us into the 75-85% range.
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Sharp-that ad is directed at young college age people. Unfortunately that’s what the average college American guy looks like.
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PMS- no one is cutting you out of anything, as far as I know. It seems you CHOSE to run away with your tail between your legs, squaking like a chicken.
Also, regarding consent- the issue in determining whether or not a crime was committed is the mental state of the accused (mens rea). The mental state of the (probably false) accuser is probative to that determination, but not dispositive. It’s too bad so many feminutz JUST DON’T GET IT regarding this very simple concept. I suggest we keep repeating it, over and over, until they do.
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“consistently notice that no woman who is over a 7 in looks seems to be particularly worried about the vast rape culture we live in, even though such a woman would be more at risk than an ugly woman.”
l’ve noticed that is generally the case. The one notable exception being wimminz who use it to keep their menz on the lancelot/damsel-in-distress level of operation. They will often try to draw this out of their men folk by casting someone, like a single guy, as the dragon to be slayed.
Wimminz are nuts and the only reason they get away with it is due to keeping their menz firmly focused on their nutz, ie in the primitive animal consciousness. They are also very adept at keeping their menz in a psycho-babbling state of child mindedness, which they exploit ruthlessly.
l see it all the time. These manginas (about 90% of men imo) are always going on about what their wife said, how their wives feel, what they worry about and then these manginas start whining about it. l used to get into that on a psych-101 level, but it only feeds that beast. Now l dismiss it by saying things like ‘thats just how women are, they over-analysis and worry a lot.’ It gets the manginas to shut up with an embarrassed look, straight away. Accidental discovery. Very useful.
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Even if he’s equally drunk?
Then you really don’t care to hear other points of view, then. If you were intellectually honest, you’d persevere. How tough is it to click one more link?
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SMS…
Then you didn’t look at the studies at all did you.
You deserve to be downvoted automatically for this contradictory paragraph alone.
Question…do you really consider pointing to information about female rapists to be “anti-female BS which distorts facts, and spews nothing but hatred”?
Might I suggest it is you who has a problem.
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You guys should be flagging this video as inappropriate on youtube!
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Dear All:
Again, thanks to so many for such pithy and just contributions.
Today, I spent the day as a substitute teacher in a government (read: Feminist) school which included Grades 7 & 8 (12-14 year olds). During the one period I was assising the other teacher, no fewer than 4 girls punched two boys even up to 4 times each and the other teacher (female) did not take any action against them.
What I did was repeatedly say to the girls, “Stop hitting the boys.”
The utter complicity of the Feminist teachers in girls’ Violence Against Boys was underlined once again, this time in a comparative frenzy of almost boxing by a tag team of what could be described/labelled as, “The Fantastic Four.”
“What are we teaching our girls?” It is obvious: the system and its almost 100% of its players are openly complicit in female-against-male violence and the girls consider it to be okay.
As such, the Net Present Value of such female-against-male violence will also be maximum in this era to which boys/future men will be justified in being their own protectors as the state is criminally negligent to protect them. And lastly, what the Feminist schools are teaching the girls is that they have accommodated licence to offend physically as well as otherly.
This is no assertion: this is an account of which I was no bystander and was a direct and serial eye and ear witness.
Perhaps we should have a new TV program about such girls in training in the Feminist government schools the the theme music could be as per a crime program from the FSA (Feminist States of America): “Bad girls, bad girls, bad girls, bad girls, what ya gonna do when she comes for you, bad girls bad girls, bad girls?”
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The Trend said…
Not quite but close…
4-Year-Old Accused of Sexual Harassment
Is That 4-Year-Old Really a Sex Offender?
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We have from time to time someone who tells us how to avoid IRS taxing powers, usually by filling out some piece of paper someone invented. We are called fools because we are too stupid to do the same thing. We wait, and soon enough he is off to prison.
Now, we are told we are fools because we don’t fill out a stupid piece of paper someone invented, and give it to the judges who will instantly lose all their powers.
Soon enough he will be off to jail.
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Speaking of weekend “hypermasculine” sports, in New Zealand this weekend:
http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/drunk-women-keep-sevens-police-busy-4013898
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4623804/Severely-drunk-women-shock-police
I wonder if this is men’s fault too, I’m sure it is but haven’t quite figured out how they went about it.
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Name calling is violence? Name calling!?
Is the name calling under the same user names you see here? We aren’t scared little chickens running from our own shadows, we’re posting under the same names as here. If not, go bark up some other tree. If so, address those posters by name, don’t just stand there and ‘tsk-tsk’.
If what’s on this thread is ‘bullying’ I feel very sorry for you indeed.
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What you should do is state loudly that from today the boys are allowed to hit back ;-D and watch the problem disappear.
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Dear crella:
Thank you for your relevant commentary. I’ve been quite bold at times in the Feminist Government schools, universities, air force, churches, synagogues, temples, teacher unions, etc. speaking about the utter bigotry against males by females and their coherts of complicit and unjust men.
I’ve been punished variously by the female children students and teachers and manginas in training for so doing. Lying/false accusation, including being fired and going through year-long investigations, and even been locked up by the local police under false accusation by a woman, etc. have resulted. Nevertheless, I continue. To say the least, such are quite frightening/effective as ill-intended.
I’ve spoken even more boldy in small groups and one-on-ones with students and staff.
Being a man victimized by Affirmative Action 25 years ago and being overqualified, etc., I must be careful but nevertheless, I go beyond that still and will continue. I’m in the Feminist trenches, deep in enemy territory and I am making sure that facts are being registered in students, without the concommitant injuries to me, as can be avoided.
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What’s wrong with the ad? It’s 100% accurate, but maybe not in the way the group that made it meant it. The commercial ends with the line “ending sexual violence begins with him.” Have you ever seen a better anti-circumcision commercial?
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SMS wrote:
By warring against women’s nature, and warring against woman’s natural partner, man, there is no ideology on earth more misogynist than feminism.
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Lara February 7, 2011 at 17:03
crella,
Good comment about girls hitting boys. All it takes is for one of them to get hit back and then they will think twice next time.
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Agreed. I told my daughters that if they hit, they should expect to get hit back, whether it is a boy they were hitting or not.
I also told them that physical violence against ANYONE in real life for ANY reason is simply wrong, save if they try to physically injure you first or force you to do something that you do not wish to do by physical force.
Hot debate. What do you think?
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gwallan-when things reach this level of insanity it time to just start beating sense into them. In most places you can’t even hold a kid under 6-7 even as a juvenile. If someone that age found a gun on the street and killed a few people playing with it the cops could not even arrest or question him. It’s put down as an accident not a crime because a 6yo is incompetent.
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Doug writes, (Though aggressive gangsters also had their appeal.) Clint Eastwood, John Wayne and so on were aggressive but in a controlled way
Erm, I seem to recall an Eastwood film called High Plains Drifter (1973) where there’s a scene where some little slut insults him and he pushes her into the outhouse and fucks her. No big deal and in fact it was funny because he put her in her place. I wonder how that scene would go over today.
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I had to google on this, I found it so ridiculous. Still somewhat incredulous, it seems as though this really did happen. Having this stuff go on a 4-year-old’s record? I know that some kids can be obnoxious, but even if this happened to the most obnoxious, gun-toting 4-year-old in the world, it’s just ridiculous. Let’s suggest the other extreme, that he was just a sweet kid hugging his teacher? WTF?
When you google the dad’s unconventional name (Damarcus Blackwell), you get 1330 hits, and when you google the mother’s unconventional name (Berthena Dorinvil), you get 38 results. Conclusion? This story really did happen.
What was George Orwell’s problem? He though that he was portraying a lunatic asylum. What he wrote about was NORMAL. What we have in our zeitgeist outdoes anything that Orwell could have dreamt up.
Does anyone know if Russia is taking any immigrants?
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I think a lot of women’s (and little girls’) behavior occurs because they are let get away with it. There are no consequences.
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Oops, I’m getting my stories mixed up. But they’re both just as incredulous. Jaw-dropping stuff.
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Sometimes when a guy retaliates, there won’t be a next time. She’ll be dead.
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By the way, I had entirely forgotten to comment on his Bingo card. A great number of those things on the card are things that women are doing of their own free will, why does he not take them to task?
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Vetrarnott seeks to rubbish Schopenhauer, but can you name a greater 19th c philosopher. I can’t. Marx? Do me a favour. Mill? Utilitarianism has limited appeal and that Essay on Women (the work of a true Mangina – who isn’t getting any) is nowhere near as radical as people like to make out. Neitsche? Brilliant but mad.That leaves Hegel (if you can understand it). It has to be Schopenhauer – and I was a big fan of his (The two Prize Essays) long before I knew of his essay on Women. Not that he is the only Philosopher to be less than impressed with the fair sex. Try Malebranche from Book 2 Part 2 Chapter 1 of Recheche a la Verite for a fair and good summation.
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I guess Mr. Josh believes he’s still fighting the good fight, while tacitly continuing to throw men of all hues and orientations “under the bus”, to make more blood sacrifices on the alter of female victim hood.
I guess we’ll see, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.
Translation: “You men, shut up and do as you’re told, or we’ll make you sorry you were born”
Further, can’t see it here, but he has a picture of a man on a 50 cal machine gun under this comment in his blog, to underscore his intent.
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Anyone else think the rapist baby commercial will encourage a few women to kill their sons?
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Dear All:
To sum-up what is needed as per female and male orientations to crime, one could account that for females, we need programs of Accountability Equity and for males, programs of Protection Equity.
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Sigh. How predictable. An introspective person would see the reaction and think ‘Maybe we went too far’, but no, it’s more of ‘THEY’RE crazy’. I too am glad that there were no death threats from the posters of the Spearhead. We’re all bigger than that, we’re adults.
What Mr. Jasper doesn’t seem to understand is that any video on the internet can and does get death threats. There is a sick faction out there to which the internet has given a voice. They go around YouTube and make hideous comments about anything and everything. I’d like to hear from any blog or YouTube channel owner who has NOT received at least one. It is, unfortunately, one inescapable facet of the internet.
I hope people are intelligent enough to see that the comments and posters here and at YouTube are not one and the same.
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(sorry, posted this here instead of on the other thread about the ad)
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@Eric J Schlegel,
Congrats Eric, your one liner is in the paper.
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“V3N0M1300 February 8, 2011 at 14:21
Anyone else think the rapist baby commercial will encourage a few women to kill their sons?”
Yes, that was my first thought.
Of course, the feminist narrative is that women are incapable of malice and violence, or malicious violence, it’s always only in self-defense. Which, when you look at the child abuse stats, is patently absurd.
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Who needs to rape to get laid anymore? Obviously there are psychopaths that will always rape just because they are evil, but I am sure we are all very aware of the massively booming porn industry that has created millions of whores that are ready and willing pretty well anytime, anywhere. The only pick up line you need anymore is about as slick as, “Would you suck my c*%# please?”
This is just another continum of the created fantasy world that feminism and man-bashing is, which is good to see, for it is starting to reveal itself as being the blantant pathology that it is as its claims become more and more absurd.
Someone associated with this site with more technical knowledge and resources than myself needs to make an ad that starts with a small girl, then have it lead into a scene of a hard-core DP porn position with the star just taking it like a champ. The voice over can say something like, “What are we teaching our girls to be, slutts that are bound to get raped?”
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That has been proven to be a lie so many times that you just shot to hell any credibility you might have had here. The two kinds of people who repeat lies are liars, and the fools who believe them.
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OMG!! Seriously people, the purpose of the ad is about telling people to teach their boys, starting at a very young age, to respect women.
Knowing that feminists have redefined “rape” to mean whatever suits them at the moment- and, for that matter, have sought and will continue to seek laws that place men at second tier status, I’ll go you one better:
I’ll teach every young man I meet that, in the eyes of the law, he is at the mercy of a woman’s whims.
I’ll tell him that his erect penis is, to the feminist, a warm dildo at best, and a weapon of rape that ought be foreshortened should “she” deem it necessary. It was placed on his body as a control mechanism for her benefit ONLY, and any use of it that makes him happy is of great risk to him.
I’ll tell him that so jealous is “she” of this “control stick” that through her feminist mouthpieces, “she” has openly sought and will openly seek to eliminate any alternative use of it, for controlling it is and always was her meal ticket- and the means by which “she” relegated him to second tier status, i.e. a walking dildo.
Please, this is not at all a bad message. Some of you sound way to smart to actually believe this ad is trying to portray a baby as a rapist.
He IS strong…
He IS tough…
He IS aggressive…
He RAPED his girlfriend.
Sounds as if the ad IS portraying him as a rapist, but I’ll play along: because we’re shown the child as “any” baby boy, it implicates any male child.
How about one with a baby girl:
She’s sugar spice and everything nice.
She’s cute…
She’s sexy…
She dumped her husband…
She accused him of spousal rape to:
get the house…
get the kids…
the better of the two cars…
his pension…
(statistically way more likely than a baby boy emerging as a rapist)
Start teaching your boys young….
Gee, I wonder if the PC manginas/whiteknights at the networks would ever let that see the light of day…
NOT
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Jno, What is so respectable about women any way? We’re talking about a baby here. So left on his own he will naturally grow up and disrespect women huh? Please explain why boys have to be taught to respect women. What I mean is why would any one have to teach a boy to not respect women? What is it about women in general that would cause a male baby, a boy to grow up to naturally not respect women to where an ad campaign is needed to get everyone to break with nature and teach boys to respect women? Jno what is so screwed up about women that we have to teach people to respect them? That is the real question.
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If you’re “Tired”, it must be past your bedtime- meaning that you’re a child- or a pampered, “men deserve every underhanded slur directed at them” WOMAN.
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