A few days ago, 34-year-old jailer Jayme Biendl went missing while on the night shift at the Monroe Correctional Complex northeast of Seattle. Jayme was a reasonably attractive woman with blonde hair and 5’3″ tall. She had been working alone in the prison chapel.
Before Biendl went missing, Byron Scherf, who was serving a life sentence for first degree rape and kidnapping, missed a routine count and was found in the chapel lobby. Scherf is an an example of a real rapist — the kind who would stalk women and ambush them, using force and coercion to obtain sex. He was also a multiple offender, hence the life sentence. In one instance, he doused a woman with lighter fluid and set her on fire.
Biendl was found some time later, strangled with her own radio microphone cord. It is still unclear whether Scherf actually raped her, but recent reports suggest he was found pants-down with scratch and bite marks on his body. Obviously, that was the idea.
The story has been fodder for talk radio, with the usual calls for castration of rapists, condemnation of corrections officials, and blame for everyone but one of the most obvious culprits besides the criminal himself. Despite the huge prison industrial complex in the US, the incarceration of people for any and everything possible, and the “lock ‘em up” attitude that has prevailed for at least a generation now, the blowhards on the radio have been falling back on the same old line that we are “too soft” on prisoners, and the solution is castration and even more draconian measures to protect innocent victims like Jayme.
Seems these fellows yelling on air are missing something fairly obvious. What the hell was a young woman, and a small one at that, doing working as a prison guard with the state’s most violent offenders?
Who thought it would be a good idea to put a little lady in close contact with brutal murderers and rapists?
Probably not the Washington State Department of Corrections, but if they had said women weren’t right for the job, it would have triggered a lawsuit, so little Jayme Biendl was hired, given her size small uniform, a can of pepper spray and a radio and sent out to work amongst the most dangerous men in Washington State. What could possibly go wrong here?
Of course, everyone is ignoring the elephant in the room. The Dept. of Corrections is being blamed for allowing her to be alone, but that’s standard for the male guards, and due to budget cuts they can’t afford to give a guard a personal escort at all times. So a lot of guards find themselves on their own much of time. Male or female. Turns out Biendl was the third woman to be attacked at the facility in the last six months. Although plenty of people might want to blame men in general for this “surprising” trend of women being attacked in prison, one wonders what their point is, because many of these guys were sent to prison in the first place to protect women. Yet women continue to insist that they be given the privilege of working in close proximity with them, and the idiots in state government indulge them.
That Biendl was murdered obviously wasn’t her fault any more than it’s a fisherman’s fault when he slips off the deck and drowns. But being a woman working with violent felons is kind of like being a fishermen working on deck in tap shoes — you’re tempting fate. And the state of Washington, in encouraging and allowing this, is entirely complicit in her death. Feminists and their enablers are also complicit. If the superintendent of the Monroe facility banned women from working with these inmates, he’d be denounced and subsequently fired. But that would be the reasonable, humane thing to do. We are living in a society that would rather see people die than admit the truth, and that’s pretty sick.
How many more people will die because of this lunacy?
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The worst part of it is, is that the prison-industrial complex is funded by the locking up of non-violent drug users, often marijuana smokers. Society fails to realize that drug users at most need rehab, not harsh sentences in prisons that are the home of real, violent criminals.
Until the establishment wakes up to this fact, expect the prison-industrial complex to grow and more victims to suffer in its wake.
I’ll say the same thing any time people cavalierly call for “castration” of any man: If male sex offenders should get their balls cut off, then female sex offenders should get their clit cut off. Not their ovaries taken out, their clit cut off.
Sick right. I don’t like saying it, but that’s because I’m a normal, reasonable human being. I don’t want either to happen. If the sentence “should get their clit cut off” sounds horrible and makes one squirm, but “have their balls cut off” doesn’t, then there’s something wrong with them. They’re sick. Our society is sick.
You should see the little women who are hired by the English police. One knocked on my door to warn me about a burglar on the prowl, just robed my neighbor. She was tiny, not much above 5 feet, she could barely pull her self into the crime prevention van, i almost offered to give her a leg up and a kids booster seat. She needed me to protect her! Its not the only time iv seen little police women who could barely see over the dash of the van they drive.
Sad, but she knew she was working with violent sex-starved men. I wouldn’t want that job – and I’m a man. Do I detect a slight gina-tingle here?
Many police/security departments have certain physical requirements in order to be eligible to work there. These requirements are obviously necessary to do the job, women its seems are exempt.
For most women, doing these jobs is like going on a roller coaster when your not tall enough. Its fucking stupid.
Saw the same thing here in Vtctoria Australia a token short policewomen on patrol, she looked so fake and unconvincing.
Maybe her bosses thought she was Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
Welmer,
She wanted ‘equality’? She got it. How many MEN have been killed on the job? Lots. Well? She’s real equal now. And how many stories do you read about MALE prison guards dying on the job? None. Rarely, if ever, gets reported. Just like male prison rape never gets reported despite the fact it is FAR more prevalent than rapes from females.
Until workplace dead are 51% women? These women are liars and hypocrites. I say we should put MORE women into places like prisons, steelworks, coal mines, deep sea fishing, offshore oil and gas, firemen, policemen, soldiers.
I say that we actively FORCE women into these life threatening positions just as men have been FORCED to accept women in the ‘safe’ occupations.
How many women fire fighters died in the collapse of the twin towers. ZERO. There’s your f***ing ‘womens equality’ right there. Liars and hypocrites.
Where are the women who will join me in calling for women to be ‘equal’ in workplace dead, as in 51%? Oh? No-where to be seen? How about that?
All those women who do NOT join me in this call? YOU are a hypocrite. Yes. I mean YOU. YOU take the benefits of ‘equal outcomes’ but YOU won’t take the downside.
Every woman who will not call for MORE women in LIFE THREATENING JOBS is a hypocrite. Period.
Starting with Hypocrite In Chief Obama.
When I was a teen and the girls said they wanted ‘equality’? I said:
Of course, saying that as a teen resulting in being called ‘sexist’ by the girls. Indeed, women have spewed ‘sexist’ at me all my life when I point out their blatant sexism.
F*** it. I’m sick of their lies. I’m prepared to say to openly and in public, in my own name. And what do the wimminz do? They just hate on me some more. They simply have no answer, no rebuttal. They know I am right. And so do the men. MEN? It’s about time you just labelled women as liars and hypocrites until those liars and hypocrites start completeing their affidavits of lawful equality and providing remedy to men who are victims of crimes by women.
A week or two ago a man asked me “What is your definition of a man”
I said “A man is someone who will do what is right, regardless of the consequences.”
I am such a man. I am speaking the truth in my own calling, in public, because I know in my heart that it is the right thing to do. The wimminz know this too. This is why they can only tell lies about me and can not rebut my statements.
So. In the name of ‘equality’, should we cut the tits off a woman who seduces and underage boy?
@Ladies?
If YOU are NOT willing to denounce calls for castration of men as ‘cruel as unusual punishment’ and YOU are NOT willing to call for womens tits being cut off for the same crime.
YOU are a hypocrite. Period.
Now. Let’s see how many women denounce the calls for castration as ‘cruek and unusual punishment’? All those who remain silent are hypocrites.
Hmmm….I wonder how many MALE SOLDIERS felt that they were unsafe in a job they were often coerced to do? Wimminz need to ‘suck it up’ and ‘take it like a man’.
Just like women firefighters- they’re a joke and everybody knows it- including them. I’m sure a womAn in a burning building wants some 5’3, 120 pound woman coming up the ladder for her fat ass? And in Minneapolis they had a lesbian fire chief with 5 harassment complaints against her filed by other women, but the city had to agonize for 9 months before demoting her. Think that would have happened to a man?
There are three types of girl cops:
Nymphos
Lesbos
Psychos
In over 15 years of police work, I have met exactly one girl cop who did not fit one or more of those types. One.
The truth is that they fit perfectly into the old “jail matron” role of taking care of girls in a womens’ prison or on the female part of a jail. They also are good at community relations PR feelgood stuff that most men with any balls bristle at having to do.
A few of them, especially some of the bull-daggers are good street cops. But the rest are generally not. They get scared easier than a man, need their hand held to do complex procedures, and generally lack interest in improving themselves career-wise.
Oh, yes – the tiny ones can’t handle themselves in a fight. Some male cops can’t, either, but most copettes can’t hack it much at all. You need upper body strength and an aggressive attitude to survive in the jail or in the hood. Most of the girlie cops have neither.
Im in total agreement with you Peter.
Reminds me of a seen in ‘Ghost Dog the way of the Samurai’, where 2 mafia guys on the run from a shoot out are puled over by a female cop. She gets shot dead as soon as she opens her mouth “why did you do that, you just shot a woman” his mate says. Reply “she wanted equality, so I gave it to her, OK!” lol
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Girl prison guards in male prisons screw the inmates. No logical decision-making process enters into it – just the alpha male thug thing. Minor or major offenses? They don’t care!
Trust me.
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“We are living in a society that would rather see people die than admit the truth, and that’s pretty sick. ”
Probably one of the most profound indictments of our twisted culture that I have heard in years.
I am in favor of allowing people to express RELEVANT dissent, even from die-hard feminists.
However, Lara is a troll. Every comment she makes is an irrelevant banality.
Ban her, not for expressing strong opposing opinions, but for being an obvious troll with an ultimate agenda of trivializing every issue that we discuss.
Odd thing is there are probably more women as a proportion working as prison guards than there are men working as primary/elementary school teachers. Yet there have been scores of reported inappropriate relationships between male inmates and female guards, yet it is men who are viewed with suspicion when working with children! Even female teachers have been caught time and again having ‘affairs’ with the children under there care.
Tell me, who is more suited to their job, a tiny ickle lady working as a prison guard or an intelligent enthusiastic male teacher. Yet in the name of ‘equality’ which is the more common? Well girls this is what ‘equality’ gets you:a dead young woman killed on the job and a generation of boys leaving school with no prospects and opportunities, many of whom will end up in prison being guarded over by – women!
Feminism = madness.
How many more people will die because of this lunacy?
More then you want to imagine. A whole generation of young men are being trained to treat ALL women like they are as strong as ALL men.
Lara February 4, 2011 at 05:50
I recently had someone come do some tree trimming in my yard. I found out he worked as a prison guard for 20 years and recently retired. He was really hot.
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Oh so in your little world, men are no more than eye candy for you? Had to go and do the cucumber dance afterwards huh…
What a twat you are.
TMOTS
If you haven’t seen this you should…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddqx_cWUN-g
I have known a couple of small women who had extensive martial arts training and could handle themselves just fine. If they wanted to be prison guards I think that would be acceptable. However, it appears the sadly departed above did not have adequate training to compensate for her size.
Women who work in correctional facilities are attention queens. They feel like P.T. Barnum where they can tame a wild bronco and have the male inmate under her whim. Women know how devious they really are (our mothers included) but they hide it very well under the guise of “fairness,” “Equality” and “doing what’s right.”
We got young violent and a little perverted, college educated women lining up to be around violent men in the corrections departments around where i live.
Eunuch males who dominate Americas legislatures cannot fathom this reality. Deviants who dominate Americas legislatures are “willfully ignorant” about the legions of young women who are attracted to violent men, go to college and study criminal psychology in a desperate attempt to be around and in close proximity to the violent men they crave.
Perverted Quackademics will not study this phenomena, and eunechs who dominate Americas legislatures will keep blaming this perverted phenomena on boys.
Boo frickin’ hoo. When you work at a prison, that is one potential occupational hazard you will have to face.
Also, I bet no one would have said anything had the victim been male. But get this: she chose her own profession herself. She volunteered for it.
P.S: It will be interesting to find out what are the physical requirements for female prison wardens. For example, women do flexed arm hangs and not real chin/pull ups.
I was just watching a documentary on ancient Rome, and it told of women paying top dollar to sneak into the prisons and slave quarters to be serviced by violent men.
We now have legions of young women , ( a disproportionate amount for sure), flocking into “criminal psychology” classes in order to get a pass to go into Americas prisons, and be around violent criminal men.
This is a phenomena that should be studies academically, but the perverts and quackademics who dominate American academia don’t wanna study anything that may “Dis-empower” their perverted gender-raunch hegemony of academia.
Castration is not only cruel and unusual. It would also not stop a person from Raping. You don’t need a cock-n-balls to Rape. Even the Real rape we are talking about. Also this punishment could not be applied equally to ALL convicted rapists. And then the nightmare scenario of the wrong person Being found Guilty.
100 % correct. I deal with all of the above every Day.
Its funny I was doing research on something I wanted to submit. Women Staff in Juvenile Facility’s do almost 90% of all the rapes and sexual misconduct. In all the years i have been in corrections i have seen dozens of females walked out the gate for sex with inmates. The one time I saw a guy get busted. he ended up doing time. they just got fired.
As for her saying she didn’t feel safe. That could be Female pissing and moaning. Or as in this case i suspect a genuine concern held by more than just her. We had a case here I told the supervisors over and over again they needed another C/O on a post others complained too. sure enough a few weeks latter we had a officer taken Hostage on that post. The inmates beat him so bad they broke his back. we don’t know all the details so we cant really make a honest judgment.
The Only solution that would make sense to me is Female staff work Female Institutions and males work Male Institutions. Male staff still can and do get beaten and Raped, but its a risk of the job. Only hiccup in my plan is Jails.
Stickman, thanks for yer input here, as there are very few that can see, (or are bold enough to see) that there are now legions of young women studying “criminal psychology” in an attempt to get near, and have sex with the violent men they crave.
Just like privileged women would of ancient Rome would pay top dollar to be let into the bowels of prisons to be serviced by violent men, to feed their sexual appetites.
Perverts and eunechs who now dominate American Academia cannot handle this reality, so legions of sexually freaky women will continue to study “criminal psychology” in attempt to be near, and be sexually serviced by violent men.
There are three types of girl cops,
Nymphos
Lesbos
psychos.
This is politically incorrect, but i bet if one was to academically study this phenomena, you would be near 99% correct.
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ANY woman who goes into ANY male-dominated profession is screwed in the head. There are so few exceptions, that we need not even discuss it.
Pretty close to topic. A woman has been fired for making a lewd joke. Well? If men can be fired for telling the truth women SHOULD be fired for making lewd jokes. Please come across to make your feelings known.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1353595/Nurse-Laura-Bowater-sacked-lewd-comments-unfairly-dismissed.html
Don’t you find it interesting that ChristianJ tolerates Lara and yet has banned me permanently from the forum? This despite me STILL being the only man to video record and publish criminal acts inside a family court situation. (Along with the transcript.)
Others are noticing Christian J and his antics.
http://www.peternolan.com/Forums/tabid/420/forumid/57/threadid/652/scope/posts/Default.aspx
And Lara ‘wonders’ why I called her a bad mother. I really pity her son. Poor little bugger. Hope he recovers from her abuse and neglect. I would AGAIN point out that the OTHER WOMEN are NOT denouncing her as the neglectful mother she claims to be.
@Ladies,
you want to know why I hold the opinion that most western women are ‘dumb as rocks’? Click here:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1353610/Jennifer-Aniston-shocked-Ellen-DeGeneres-gives-saucy-birthday-present.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LA-S64QY3o
“We are all Indians now”
The man who should be president. The most impressive discussion of America I have ever heard.
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There is a positive side to this:
In an age when jobs are few and far between, here is one job opening..
And the pay is not bad at all, I hear.
Although careers are kind of short…LOL!!!
OT:
I posted this also in the previous thread, sorry, I just think it’s very important.
From Fathers and Families:
“US Supreme Court to Hear Case Challenging Constitutionality of Jailing Parents for Inability to Pay Child Support”
http://www.fathersandfamilies.org/enews/cv/enews-20110203.html
On topic:
I’m going to try an experiment on Match.com and make a profile in which I am an ex con, just out of prison, looking to be rehabilitated.
I’ll post on here how many reponses I get versus the current accurate, just another professional with a decent job, one.
I’ll NOT Whiteknight the Jayme Biendls of the world.
No sympathy for her – and her high-pay/higher pension Government Job.
Plenty of male guards carried her water during her brief career, doing her job for her and carrying the load bringing down dangerous incarcerated psychos.
Like female cops who jump out of the way and let the male officers grapple with felons because they don’t want their tit punched.
I’ve witnessed bullshit like this with my own eyes.
And the mass raping of men under the guidance of legislated morality from our feminist overseer’s continues with no attention at all:
“A prisoner is under the control and mercy of gangs of violent felons, all day long, unable to escape. Under the guardianship and responsibility of government. Feminist anti-rape activists are not concerned about the grave injustice of prison rape, which is on-going long term year-long power, humiliation, and sexual violence.”
http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma/human-rights/feminist-rape-laws-dont-apply-to-male-prison-rape-victims
Tell me again why I should give a hoot about female victims? And yet I do, why, because I have a moral center, I am a man.
@SD,
it is perfectly legal to jail a slave for not paying his child support. The constitution does NOT apply to free men. It applies to slaves who agree to be slaves. If you have been following along you will know that I have proven that paying child support orders is by consent only and that it is perfectly LAWful not to ‘pay’ child support. It is UNLAWFUL to incarcerate a man for unpaid child support if that man has rebutted the presumption of slavery.
My approach to not paying ‘interim support’ was merely to issue a bill for the proposed service of paying child support. I made the bill 10x the child support. Apparently the judge does not want to pay my bill for his ordered service of child support. I have not heard from that judge in 15 months. Now? If I was somehow breaking the LAW don’t you think that judge might have done something by now? Or my greedy ex wife?
Men pay child support out of stupidity and ignorance. THEIR problem. I released this information over a year ago. How many OTHER men have tried it? ONE. And he has not paid one cent in child support since rescinding his consent to do so.
A lady friend and I were talking about something similar just recently. Her claim was that she was pretty sure MOST women who are ‘sweet as pie’ to their husbands and ‘restrained’ in the bedroom will ALSO be going out and finding ‘hunky men’ to ‘f*** like crazy’. HER theory was that women really do like pretty hot sex but they don’t want their husband to know this for a variety of reasons.
1. If she let on she really liked sex she would lose the ability to use sex as a weapon.
2. She does not want her husband to be sexually satisfied.
3. She wants to be sexually satisfied by an ‘alpha’ and is NOT satisfied with a beta.
These were pretty interesting comments to me. Her position was that if a woman gives her husband what he wants she loses all power in the relationship. NOT what she wants. This woman says female infidelity is FAR higher than acknowledged. And it is ACKNOWLEDGED to be around 60% in the UK. http://www.womensinfidelity.com/
My own experience is similar. Once sex is no longer a weapon women get FURIOUS. I refused to ask my ex for sex between 2002-2007. At first she laughed at me. After about three months she was in tears. Apparently when a man refuses to ask his wife for sex he is ‘cruel’ and ‘callous’ and ‘abusing’ her. Note. SHE could ask and I would say yes. But even the ‘humiliation’ of asking was, apparently, ‘abusive’. Go figure how this ‘equality’ works, eh? But when a wife refuses her husbands requests for sex, on pain of 10-15 in jail if he tries ‘too hard in her opinion…no facts required’…she is ‘empowered’ and ‘liberated’.
Yet? ALL US MEN KONW that when the man is asking for sex the woman has the ‘right’ to say no for years on end. DON’T WE!
You think women want to give up THAT kind of power? Not likely.
Just a little more blatant hypocrisy from the wimminz.
Interestly. When my ex stole EUR18,000 from our company and had engaged a family law lawyer in Ireland I told her to come over to Germany to discuss this crime and the issue of retaining a family law lawyer in Ireland. In a phone call late the night before she was flying over she talk about how she was looking forward to sex because we had not been together for a while. She THEN tried on “I want you to sign a letter saying that you agreed to the withdrawal of the EUR18,000″. I said I would sign no such letter as that would make me an accessory after the fact to the crime of embezzlement. No dice. She THEN said that if I would not sign she would not come and I’d be getting no sex.
I laughed at her and told her that trying to blackmail me with sex was a joke at her age, especially after how she had said no for so long. I told her I could not care one way or the other. Naturally she was FURIOUS that sex had completely failed as a tool of manipulation. The times I said ‘No’ to her? She went BALLISTIC and behaved like a 2 year old having a tantrum. Gee? Where is the ‘equality’ in that.
Young men? This is what you have to look forward to if you get married to a ‘sugar and spice’ woman. She will be VERY LIKELY be cheating behind your back (60%+ in the english speaking world) while trying to manipulate you through sex. Charming.
And yes. When I tracked MY CAR after just after separation it was found that she was already ‘sleeping over’ at someone elses house. Pretty standard. Women like to heap scorn on MEN who cheat. But they are very reluctant to heap scorn on WOMEN who cheat. Indeed. When a woman cheats the women still heap scorn on the MEN. We ALL know this. About time someone had the balls to say it.
More hypocrisy.
“with the usual calls for castration of rapists…”
Funny how these same people dont like the rest of hammurabi’s code of law- those who steal get their hands cut off, those who kill will be killed, etc. In other words, those who break the law shall be broken.
But its totally okay if its just applied to rapists, because that will protect the wimmens.
Also, I cant bold, quote, or do anything, is that just me?
“Who thought it would be a good idea to put a little lady in close contact with brutal murderers and rapists?’
“Little lady” is exactly why this web site viewed as misogynist.
She was a “woman of small stature”.
Reminds me of the smaller 3/4 versions or “parlor” acoustic guitars you can buy. They don’t quite have the same tone. Women are 3/4′s of a man. For every 4 women you hire, you’ll need to hire another man to compensate for them.
Don’t be too shocked to find that other male guards kind of helped enable this “situation” either. They don’t like working with women anymore than any other group of men. Any man that was as weak and lame as a woman would never make it through training. Gender equality is a good idea, if you don’t consider the fact that women to die.
Peter Andrew Nolan-”HER theory was that women really do like pretty hot sex but they don’t want their husband to know this for a variety of reasons.
1. If she let on she really liked sex she would lose the ability to use sex as a weapon.
2. She does not want her husband to be sexually satisfied.
3. She wants to be sexually satisfied by an ‘alpha’ and is NOT satisfied with a beta.”
Peter, you have a notable aptitude for finding women who tell the truth once in a while. This stuff is gold.
Luckily, men are quickly realizing just how debauched modern women are, as well as learning how to get sexual access. And the female control tactic of pussy rationing is becoming a thing of the past.
Another non politically correct truth this brings up is how much women desire rough and dominating sex. It’s pretty clear that the feminist’s new definition of raaaayyyypppppeeee is meant to criminalize the consensual behavior that many women desire most. So this puts men between a rock and a hard place : fail to please her, or risk charges. Either way he is screwed and she gets to blame men for something.
If a man or a woman reading this doesn’t believe me, i really encourage you to spend some time women’s erotica. Not because you want to rub one out, but because it’s an uncensored view into the female libido.
The motto of the french equivalent of NOW goes like this:
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@ Nico
More feminist lies, like that woman want children more and are better parents than men.
Here is another study from Match.com:
“The male mind — what they found was that amongst the 21 to 24-year-olds and 50 and older, they have a greater desire to marry. So there’s that age in the middle where women probably want to be married more, especially because of kids, because they have that. But men across the board want to have kids more than women do.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/02/04/earlyshow/living/relationships/main7317533.shtml?tag=latest
And we all know women are far and away the biggest abusers of the helpless, children.
The search engine on match.com is very good. That is how I discovered that men want children more than women over 10 years ago. I looked at how many men would date a single mom versus how many women would date a single dad. In every age group a large majority of men where open to dating someone with children and only a small minority of women will.
When I brought this up with my female collegues they hated on me and denied the truth. Nice to hear my experiment has been repeated and lends more support for my hypothesis that:
Men want children more than women.
I think men should be fighting against proposed laws outlawing surrogate parenting for men. It is the best way to go if you want children IMO.
And I have learned this by bitter and extremely expensive experience.
You can’t write either…
And if you think we’re too hard on the wimmenz here, look at what NOW has to say about us to the American Psychiatric Association regarding the inclusion of Parental Alienation Syndrome in the DSM V:
“Finally, there is the problem of what appears to be a significant number of cases of violence — beatings and murders — of children by fathers in situations involving child custody challenges, visitation or child support complications. Whether these are cases where the father has gained custody with the help of a parental alienation accusation and whether there had been previous documentation of that parent’s violent behavior is not always known. But there are enough tragic cases where such questions must be asked. Would legitimization of this alleged disorder accelerate its use in the courtroom, being especially helpful for abusive parents to gain custody? We believe that will likely be the case.
For all these reasons, the National Organization for Women urges the American Psychiatric Association not to add the proposed subject disorder”
They lie to the Psychiatrists with no hesitation, not even a bogus study, a simple assertion that violent men are using PAS against their saint like ex’s. And that this is resulting in child deaths and injuries.
This is what we are dealing with here, women that just love to hate men. She makes father custody out to be a death sentence for children.
We need to turn up the volume, alot.
Sorry, the proof:
http://www.nowfoundation.org/issues/family/PADLetrFinal4-13-10.pdf
If they ever do pass law making for common castration of convicted rapists that will of course mean that some of those who end up being castrated are innocent men wrongly convicted. Based on a ruling favoring castration the only fair and decent thing to do to false-rape accusers is to remove the liars tongues. Obviously, pc society and the alpha-political-elites who happily use feminism as a political tool will never go for such a false-rape punishment law.
Aharon, in such a society, I’ll do you one better, remove the false accuser’s head.
I might be pressing the issue, but in these days of education cutbacks, with the sports programs suffering as a result, I propose that all men’s and women’s sports teams be integrated.
Then we’ll see who’s actually got the stuff that will succeed, or whether it’s (gender equality) a whole lot of wishful thinking.
You know how that would turn out, right ?
It would save money, yeah, and would show that the cost of catering to this feminist attitude is actually quite costly.
In the case of the jailer, this seem to be the case, and well, the law of averages caught up with her as well. It could have also been a male jailer. But it was costly, as well, that sense of “strong enough for a man, but made for a woman baloney” just doesn’t seem to fit anywhere but on a tee vee commercial selling deodorant to burly women.
When you asked for “equality”, we weren’t sure what they meant, the ladies. But I’m all for this type of stuff, and willing to try to not laughing at misguided female arrogance.
because that’s all it is: they need to be taken down a few notches and experience real world, non-cushy situations, as men have since time began.
And no, I’m not impressed with most female atheletes.
I too often compare them to male athletes, and pity, they just look like….grrls playing, and well, it’s not so very compelling to watch.
So when the educational budget gets trimmed, ask to combine these teams and see where words like “equaily between the genders” end up – mostly the trash can.
A chick who supplies SuperBowl tix – before being asked – after swallowing.
I’ve had something on my mind for quite some time.
Has anyone ever thought of compulsory abortion?
Or compulsory sterilization?
The more I think about it, the more it seems to me we should ask that question.
The question in my mind is: Are children necessary?
Seriously.
I suppose that many will disagree.
When you stop and think about it, you soon realize that children have a very negative ROI.
If you don’t have kids, you can’t miss them, can you?
@ Rebel
Raising children is very hard and doing along is harder still. I would never suggest to anyone to have children unless they are 100% committed to sacrificing a large part of their life with little or no ROI.
As a parent if I don’t have to constantly pick up after him and if he occasionally listened to me that would be a gift from heaven. And, as likely as a miracle to occur. And children are very expensive, at least mine is.
I choose love over money and peace and quiet. Some of us really love raising kids. Best thing I ever did.
And I think, what would it be like if I didn’t have him. I would be getting laid alot but paying for it one way or another by giving money to a person who, deep down hates and resents me.
I choose my son.
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I agree with you Ana.
Please let us here know when you have posted your letter to the US govt. demanding that girls register for selective service.
Your daughter can stop a bullet just as well as my son can.
Ana-
If you were stuck on a sinking ship, would you persuade the men to evacuate first?
Ana
Are you hosting a telethon that we don’t know about?
If male rapists were to be castrated, the women rapists should be given a hysterectomy. Castration takes away a man’s ability to have children, a hysterectomy does the same for women.
But, of COURSE we can’t do that! It violates a woman’s reproductive rights, dontchaknow.
Children are the way we vote on the future. People who do not have children are letting someone else determine the future. I think about this when I visit my liberal friends, with their zero or one child family, and then return to my church, where the norm is three children and some families have five.
O/T: Star of “Curb Your Enthusiasm,” Cheryl Hines, fronts an awareness campaign for heart disease.
The reason? Her Father nearly died from a heart attack.
The punchline? The campaign raises awareness for heart disease IN WOMEN.
http://www.imdb.com/news/ni7449409/
@ Ana
“Her pussy should not make men feel the need to look out for her pussy all the time. ”
If you expect people to behave always according to your wishes or what they “ought to”, no wonder if you get into big trouble.
Being a correctionnal officer is quite dangerous for a man who is muscular and who won’t be seen as an enticing prey by sex-starved psychopathic predators.
A petite woman guarding a sexual predator is like a gazelle guarding a lion.
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So if we agree on everything it’s a group think palace, and if we discuss areas of disagreement we just are just rejoicing in a womans misfortune?
Are those the only two choices?
Maybe we are a group of very concerned men worried about the fate of our society and our children given the hostile attack on these by feminists for the last 100+ years.
I agree with the others saying she deserves no pity.
Do no be follied by blond hair, fairly attractiveness or small size. These do not matter.
I do not care she obtained a job she was unfit for. In the feminism, every woman has the right of being idiot.
what is to be pointed, we do not know what she was doing, and who. She as a warden probably was amused to have those alpha thugs under hr power. Maybe she enjoyed harassing them or humiliating them, as any woman with a crumb of power do to other humans. Maybe her death was just a sex game badly terminated, who knows?
With women recieving full leganland physical custody in over 85% of cases I’m sure the kids are alright.
sarcasm/off
http://thenononsenseman.com/Media/ChildAbuseByPerp_ACF2009.pdf
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Our goals are clear, you are here to disimmulate, not accomadate.
So, my personal request from you is to leave me alone.
Hi, I’ve been a long time lurker on this site. Just had a few comments on women in a LEO, rescue and corrections environment. They are dangerous to themselves, the public and to their fellow workers for at least 3 reasons.
1 – Force Escalation – Since female LEOs are smaller in stature they often become quickly intimidated by larger male suspects. As a result they will escalate to lethal force a lot more quickly than a male LEO. They know they cannot compete with a large male physically and people get hurt because of this. If you look at statistics, female officers will escalate to lethal or call for backup much more quickly than male officers and can escalate a situation unnecessarily. They can also be more physically abusive because they feel the need to compensate for smaller size. I am very careful with my tone and body language around any female LEO because most tend to be a lot more hair trigger than male LEOs.
2 – Part Of The Problem – Since they are physically smaller they can sometimes be trapped in a bad situation like a fire or prison riot and need to be rescued themselves or worse force their co-workers to deal with a hostage situation. Both scenarios tie up their co-workers resources and make their job even m0re difficult. Also it will trigger male co-workers to try all kinds of stupid stunts to rescue the woman leading to the third problem.
3 – The White Knight Effect – Other commenters on this site have discussed the white knight problem with LEOs at length. There are several situations I’ve seen where a LEO female puts out an officer assistance call and the male LEOs go into berserker mode and inflict massive damage on a suspect even after he has complied because of white knight protectiveness. Ask Rodney King about that. One of the first two LEOs on scene was a female CHP who could not control him when he flipped out. Compounding the white knight scenario is the fact that her partner was also her husband. She immediately escalated to a drawn weapon when King started behaving strangely and the whole thing went downhill from there. The result is unnecessary injury and police brutality lawsuits.
Fire and corrections can see similar situations where a woman in danger scenario causes some or all of her male co-workers to take unnecessary risks to rescue her. This is probably going to happen when women enter US Army front line combat units as well.
I’m not saying there aren’t women capable of doing these jobs. Just that they are rare exceptions. IMHO Most women who work corrections and fire are in it for the money. Both can earn over 150K per year in overtime and bonuses in California.
“What is the cause here? What is the goal? Is it just to rejoice over a womans misfortune?”
It’s the boomerang effect.
Men are returning the favors.
Men and women are becoming more and more pissed off with one another.
Where have you been?
The statistical probability of these incidents happening are low (three murders after how many thousands of interactions) which indicate that this is an isolated tragedy. Something to use against PC equalists, sure, but the true victims will likely be the peaceful prisoners who will now have their freedoms curtailed due to the action of a few.
This appears to be the pattern in this society – to solve a problem, everyone gets to pay instead of focusing on the key contributors (which in this case is allowing petite women around blatantly obvious hardened criminals).
@ ANA
First of all thank you for coming here and speaking your mind we have one poster who comes in here and posts all the time but there is no mind. i think we all know who that is .
Second. Yes it does matter. why because the news is yammering about NOT a Corrections Officer killed in line of Duty. but a woman Officer that’s the story that it was a woman. If the media and their predominately feminist controlled News outlets had not made her sex the point of the story i doubt anybody here would know or give it concern.
Yes the woman made a choice and her job was dangerous. she payed a fatal price for her decision. What the Men here are angry about is the fact that she COULD make that choice. The facts are simple women are not meant for combat. they are not built for it mentally or physically. can women fight HELL YEAH. but not like a man. As a Officer in a Corrections Facility you must ready willing and ABLE to fight hand to hand FOR YOUR LIFE! it aint no street cop situation ware you wait for back up and have a few guns at your disposal. It can happen at the snap of your fingers. Its basically a combat roll. In the Military the weakness of ONE soldier can kill everybody. women DO NOT measure up to the task. every Requirement for women in the military is LESS than any mans. A 14 year old boy is more physically capable that all but the best women soldiers. By allowing women Into the military we are Intentionally going into a fight with one are tied behind our back, all for the sake of political correctness. How many will have to DIE before they rethink that stupid ass idea. Ill tell you what it wont be Men’s Deaths that change it. It will only be considered when the women Start dieing in droves. Too bad alot of good Men will have to go with them to their graves so women can feel “empowered”
After women in combat whats next wheelchair Brigades??
Women have a place. These Jobs are clearly not it.
@Sonja February 4, 2011 at 12:32
If male rapists were to be castrated, the women rapists should be given a hysterectomy. Castration takes away a man’s ability to have children, a hysterectomy does the same for women.
But, of COURSE we can’t do that! It violates a woman’s reproductive rights, dontchaknow.
Rape Aint about having children… its about SEX. a woman can and do still have a very pleasurable sex-life after hysterectomy. The comparison is not even close. but A for effort *S*
“Anonymous February 4, 2011 at 13:06
You, Single Dad, have said many times that women should die in war in larger numbers (even though not everyone may support the causes for wars and even the conscription). “
What you fail to understand here is that if humans must die on the battlefield, then we must die in equal numbers.
Why should women suddenly refuse equality when it comes to dying?
Can you answer that question?
Two feminists hanging from every lamp post would be a nice start.
@paigeu,
For some reason I am struck by a rare note of sincerity in your comment. Unfortunately, no one can tell you what MRAs want, because people who apply that label to themselves can’t even agree. Some want a return to “traditional” gender roles. Some want to force women to live up a real definition of “equality” and not “men just have to bend over and take whatever we give them without complaining.”
For myself, it would be nice to simply be able to stop having to consider women my enemies and my adversaries. It would be nice to think of them as being attractive without having that attraction criminalized. Personally, I’m more than happy to let women have jobs which they have to compete for on an equal footing with men. I don’t think that Affirmative Action and the relaxation of standards for physically demanding jobs serve women’s interests at all. Nor do I think that women clinging like limpets to their old prerogatives while at the same time demanding to share all the best parts of traditional men’s prerogatives is serving either sex.
We are halfway between the old social order and a new one. About the only thing anyone knows about what the new one will look like is that it won’t look much like the old one. The attempts to “liberate” women from all their old role expectations, while at the same time trying to lock men into their old role expectations with an ever expanding police state is going to inevitably lead to some men flatly refusing to live up to those old expectations and either avoiding or being outright hostile toward women who try to force them to.
Each man has his own particular set of hot buttons. The extreme disparity in treatment between the sexes in matters like property division in divorce, child custody and child support, the extremely lenient treatment of women by the criminal justice system compared to the extremely harsh and punitive treatment of men, and the relentless man-bashing we have to put up with are themes you will find most men concerned about.
Many of us would not even agree with Bill on his reasons for posting this story. So, some prison guard got killed. Yawn. It is a job with risks, and anyone who takes the job accepts those risks in exchange for a paycheck. If it had been a man who was killed, the story would have never made it past page 18 of the local paper. The only thing which makes it “newsworthy” is the sex of the person who was killed.
I, personally, don’t believe that a woman’s life is somehow more valuable and significant than a man’s life. So, if women are going to live up to all their “equality” bullshit, that means for every man who dies on the job or defending the country, a woman needs to die without the usual fanfare of “and, 100 people were killed INCLUDING A WOMAN!”
As far as things you might do, I know that it would warm the cockles of my heart to start seeing women respond to creatures from the Black Lagoon like Maureen Dowd when they start spouting their BS with – “Shut up, shut up, SHUT UP YOU STUPID BITCH!!“
zed-
Thank you for your thorough response.
@Lara,
wtf, is wrong with you?
Honestly, I think she must get turned on by the verbal beat downs.
I think if we were nice to her, she would feel we were wimps and probably leave (and go somewhere else try to rile up guys).
Until then I guess we just have to live with the rash.
@Antz
She’s definitely a troll but she’s got an ulterior motive, she’s like a female prison guard, and that’s why she’s posting so often in this thread, she secretly likes hard, unyielding men.
That is true. I used to teach college criminal justice classes, and I can assure you that some of them were there for that. Some of them were there to meet future cop husbands. The girls with sensible shoes who chewed tobacco and had strong handshakes were there to get hired on at the police department.
And a few of them decided to turn their attention to their big, handsome instructor here and there. Not a bad deal at all, as a number of them were table grade…
And nin10do is right on the money with his analysis.
Herbal Essence February 4, 2011 at 04:17
Yeah, there are costs to all that ridiculous posturing of women as super warriors in movies and on TV.
@paigeu
ZED did give a very good explanation.
I would like to add My 2 cents
Most of the Men here are Angry, and justifiably so. Many have been used abused and lied to. They have been hurt. and to add insult to injury they are told “you weren’t hurt, and if you were you deserved it” The system totally and completely favors women. And whats worse Women know it. You see it every day on TV, Movies you name it. They Use the system to victimize Men to a staggering amount. Many of the women who claim they want gender equality, dont they want perks they demand gender superiority.
So when one of the guys say they want women to Die in huge numbers on the battlefield or in coal mines or any of the myriad of ways Men have died for thousands of years. They are basically saying “oh you want your cake and eat it too?? well here have the whole thing! i hope you choke on it”
Think about it MEN built civilization fought and died for it and continue to do so. women did their part, without them there would not have been the generations of children and the homes worth fighting for.
But around a hundred years ago women suddenly had the ability to change that civilization. but they didnt have to toil to build it.
They could bring about war, but did not have to die in them.
They could reap all the many benefits of the sacrifices of Men but not only would they not have to pay for it, now they get to take more that their fair portion, and call it EQUALITY
Do they mean it when they say they want em to die…. maybe…. or do they just want women to fess up they had it good all along and we should all know our place in life.
I really Hope you dont have to find out cuz it will get really ugly
In Germany, a female jail psychologist who had become too confident with a sex-murderer was raped reapeatedly in 2009.
http://expressbuzz.com/world/german-prisoner-rapes-jails-psychologist/56726.html
The lifer had been in jail for 30 years. He had nothing to lose.
P. Gibson February 4, 2011 at 11:37
I might be pressing the issue, but in these days of education cutbacks, with the sports programs suffering as a result, I propose that all men’s and women’s sports teams be integrated.
Not sure if this website ever covered this story, but it seems right up your alley and it speaks to P. Gibson’s point very…er…pointedly:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/blog/prep_rally/post/Male-star-leads-field-hockey-team-Is-he-an-unfa?urn=highschool-285871
One guy did this on a team of women. One.
Rebel asked:
“What you fail to understand here is that if humans must die on the battlefield, then we must die in equal numbers.
Why should women suddenly refuse equality when it comes to dying?”
Well, one answer is that women are probably busy back at base, making Stickman’s ‘combat rolls’.
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Well, one answer is that women are probably busy back at base, making Stickman’s ‘combat rolls’.
DOH!
but a funny mental picture
@Christopher February 4, 2011 at 18:57
No, this woman is not a ‘victim of feminism’. She is a victim of procedures that were not followed in this prison. Basically, in most prisons, you are not supposed to be goddamned able to go ANYWHERE without a police officer being with you at that time.
I dont know what security level that facility is or how they measure it in Washington. But in my experience unless its a Max or Super Max prison Inmates can travel from point to point without escort usually under observation by a tower or a camera system. contrary to popular belief sex offenders are not sequestered to some secret underground part of the facility. Most go to general pop. In Virginia at least almost no staff member knows what Inmate did what. sounds crazy but there is a good reason. You cant have Inmates treated differently. The C/O mantra is “Firm Fair and Consistent ” Inmates will ask one another. If the person is a sex offender they will just come up with something else serious but not “bad” like arson or ID theft.
Like i said before we dont know all the facts….But…
your statement that
doesn’t work. she was manning a post, A Officer was there. Was he going to church and hid out until everybody else left but her ?? Duno sounds like a good plan to me as she would HAVE to be last one out for that very reason. to make sure nobody was hiding out.
Trust me Inmates can be clever tricky slippery fucks. I have seen Inmates make stuff that would make MacGyver look like substitute wood-shop teacher. They have all day and night to think and plan.
I dont Know what the facility’s SOP’s are but id bet if she really did tell her union steward about her issues and nothing changed. they were most likely within SOP.
now how about a nice warm Combat Roll
@paigeu
“Is it just to rejoice over a womans misfortune?”
Yes. And what’s wrong with a little schadenfreude?
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@Christopher
She’s an indirect, unintended victim of feminism. That’s why her petite little self got the job in the first place.
She wanted to be empowered, she certainly got empowered… by a hardcore criminal. Who knows, maybe it was bliss for her to die at the hands of a brute.
Women should NOT be prison guards, or soldiers or”On Patrol” police. (They should work as secretaries & support.) Women are weaker, smaller & simply don’t have the POWER of authority.
I’m very polite to a male police officer, but when confronted by a woman officer, my first thought is :”Bitch please! I can SO kick your ass!” Now if I, a law-biding woman, don’t really respect a female officer, how can we expect a man to? Especially a man who’s behaviour leans to violence & disregard of the law????
I feel no pity for the woman who was killed. She knew the risks and took the job anyway. Just as a fireman who runs into a burning building, knows he may not come out alive. She was walking into a facility full of violent men she couldn’t HOPE to control on her best day.
Stupid broad!
American culture has devolved into a moral cesspool since 1953.
That was the year Hugh Hefner began publishing Playboy magazine in Chicago.
The oral contraceptive pill was approved for use in the United States in 1960.
Abortion has been legal in the United States since 1973.
While pornography had been traded over the Internet since the 1980s, it was the invention of the World Wide Web in 1991 as well as the opening of the Internet to the general public around the same time that led to an explosion in online pornography.
Post coitus abortion pills [Morning After Pills] became available without prescription to women over 18 in 2006 in the USA.Women 16 and under require a prescription.
In the 1950s, college dorms were off-limits to members of the opposite sex. Then came the 1970s, when male and female students started crossing paths in coed dormitories. Now, a growing number of colleges are going even encouraging coed rooms.
The people in the United States that I have know since the 1950s, including myself, have overwhelmingly been self-indulgent, immoral trash.
One would think self preservation would override such idiotic and lethal career choices. Mother nature has endowed men with a marvelous system when danger is eminent. You feel it when you get too close to edge of the cliff, or when confronted with numerous opponents. I’m fairly certain Danny Devito would think twice before he got in the ring with Mike Tyson. Hell, all of us would think twice, yet…and this is what is amazing to me…
Feminism has brainwashed women so thoroughly that they will, without hesitation walk into this ring believing they can win. It’s not only delusional, it’s deadly. It’s like a small child wandering into traffic. The child at least has a valid excuse, these women do not. Maybe that’s why for recorded civilization women have been kept in the kitchen, they don’t have any more sense than a child.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7o9p0fP6cQ&feature=related
I once flirted with a female officer
she gave me her phone number
It was “911″
@Christopher
Just for you I went and dug up some more info.
I dont know what background you come from so I will ASSUME you know nothing of corrections.
Ok here goes:
JAIL= people who have NOT yet been found guilty awaiting trial. AND People who have been found GUILTY and awaiting transfer to DOC or serving a sentence (generally under a year).
PRISON= people who HAVE BEEN FOUND GUILTY and are serving a sentence (generally anything OVER a year)
INMATE= anybody who is incarcerated at a jail OR prison. Most “old timer” inmates prefer to be called a convict as a form of status that they arnt new and know the ropes. I am sure it may differ from state to state.
Most states have several different security levels within the DOC . It can be a facility for each level or a combination of Levels at some large facilitys. Depending on the offender status a Inmate. The different security levels may or may not mix. as a rule you dont mix MAX with MINIMUM but a MEDIUM may be held with one or the other depending on offender status.
Ok the levels
Work Detail = these are the guys ya see picking up trash on highway
Minimum = usually same as above but they may have picked up Infractions
Medium= The lions share of Inmates: robbery, B&E some sex offenders stuff like that
Maximum= Violent crimes that result in deaths or great bodily harm, active gang members, Inmates that have assaulted staff/Inmates or amassed large numbers of infractions.
Super Max= Inmates who have killed wile in prison, Gang leaders, Notorious criminals who due to the nature of the crime may be a target of other Inmates guys like Dahmer.
Most states allow for a inmates security level to drop over a period of time as long as they maintain good behavior. A murderer can over the years go from super max down to medium. May take 20 years but it can happen.
Ok thats done
here is what I have gleaned from the Net .
this is ware it happened http://www.doc.wa.gov/facilities/prison/mcc/default.asp
It is a Multi level institution if you look at the compound here http://www.doc.wa.gov/facilities/prison/mcc/images/mcc_aerial.jpg
and you know what to look for you can see it is separated into different areas each with its own fence. Most likely separating each security level
The Officer was Running the Church Program. The suspected killer was the “church helper”
34-year-old guard Jayme Biendl worked alone in the prison chapel. She ran programs there, but often complained that it wasn’t safe for her to be working alone…
She was supposed to end her shift at 10 p.m., then return to the office and hand in her equipment.
Only 45 minutes before her shift was to end 52-year-old inmate Byron Scherf, a chapel helper who was serving life under the three strikes law for a rape and kidnapping in 1997. was reported missing during a head count. Guards found him in the chapel lobby, where he told them he planned to escape. But they never bothered to check the rest of the chapel to see if Jayme was okay. about 20-30 minutes latter Jayme was found fully clothed and it doesn’t appear that she was raped. Police belive she was strangled by Scherf with her radio mic cord.
So there ya go. The Inmates had a reason to be in the Church as he was its “helper” The Officer ran the program there. he probably waited till last guy left and did what he did.
If you believe that all Inmates are under constant “hands on” supervision and under lock and key when officers aren’t escorting them. Then you are also likely to believe that there really is a Policeman on Every corner. Its simply not feasible .
So re- read my first post along with this one.
hope I helped
If there were legions of young men flocking to “criminal psychology” professions in order to have sex with women in prisons,the “American gender-Raunch community” would be marching “Full Klan” mode.
But when psycho, perverted young women flock to “criminal psychology professions” in order to get into the bowels of Americas violent prisons to full full their perverted sexual appetites for brutal violent men; the “American gender-Raunch community” have nothing to say.
There are very few Academics who dare study any phenomena that challenges “American gender-Raunch” hegemony of American universities.
I was just reading an article about the Russians being pissed off that American Women who adopt Russian children are torturing them.
What does the All mighty “American gender-Raunch professorial elite” have to say about this???
This person could be my mother, or sister, or daughter, or best friend. When a man dies a sad and untimely death I imagine they were my father, brother, husband, or son. How is this gender war mentality contributing to a better world for anyone? I am not advocating everyone become “white knights” but I think it is quite possible for a person to stand by harsh principles while also maintaining a modicum of human decency. Cruelty does not contribute to a better world.
Paigeu said:
” I am not advocating everyone become “white knights” but I think it is quite possible for a person to stand by harsh principles while also maintaining a modicum of human decency. Cruelty does not contribute to a better world.”
Amen.
I had a similar reaction when I read a poster here saying he wouldn’t help a child who was a girl but would help a child who was a boy. That style of petty, dogmatic, garbage dump ethics proves that feminism isn’t the only thing that needs changing in the world.
One of the most important things we can do to fix things is to act like the kind of person we respect – with honor, strength and courage. Always.
I think in case anyone has missed it that they should read Nin10do’s (first ever!) contribution above. Apart from pointing out that the males will quickly go into white-knight mode when a female is under threat, he also explains how females are more likely to escalate a situation because of their smaller size, thus lesser ability and thus greater fear, which put me in mind of the following:
Some years ago – it does not matter when – I was in Calais waiting for the return trip to Dover. There had been chaos with the boats all day, and I wanted to find out what was happening and getting increasingly frustrated with the inadequate repsonses from the women ticket sellers. The next thing I knew, they were calling the police. This was absurd – I, a customer was being badly treated and they (although protected by a glass screen – and I was neither violent or threatening violence) was being treated as a criminal. I left the building to avoid further trouble! I am sure if those women had been men that would never have happened. Women just cannot hack-it without calling on Big Daddy in a working situation any more than in real life.
HE. Since I started dating eastern european women they pretty much ALL tell me the truth. I only started dating my first such woman in April 08. She supported me during my period of being suicidal. She didn’t know this. She was just so lovely. So open. So honest.
The thing I have noticed most is how much they actually care about men personally. To these women we are real people and they take care with out feelings and treat me well. No EE woman has EVER criticised me for dis-owning my children. Mostly they give me a kiss and a hug and tell me how sorry they are that I felt I had to do that. You’ve seen how western women AND many men hurl abuse at me when I say I dis-owned my former children. It’s just pure hatred spewed out of the minds of idiots.
So…after a while….I started asking these women more questions about ‘women in general’. These EE women are VERY clear about how horrible women can be to men. One of my lady friends tells me she has a very bad mother. A woman who really hated on her husband and did her best to make his life miserable. She told me: “One day I asked my father how he could have married such a witch. He told me that she was not like that until after the children were born. She used to be really lovely to him. But once the kids were born he felt obliged to do his best for his children even if that meant being abused by his wife.”
Now…does THAT sound familiar to any other men here? How many WESTERN women will tell you that? NONE.
As I pointed out. My favourite lady told me to my face she was prepared to cuckhold me if I married her and she changed her mind about babies. It’s in my book. We were skirting around that subject for the best part of a year. We have now gone our separate ways.
Yes. These truths these women tell and I share ARE gold for young men. I am doing my best to get the word out. I wish others would too. Women lie to young men so much and they hate on any man who stands up for himself. They also enrol idiot white knights to do their dirty work for them. Take this for example. A nutcase threatening my family.
http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/australia/Forums/tabid/82/forumid/4/threadid/78/scope/posts/Default.aspx
I have to keep the identity of women I am dating secret because of the nutcases who are trying to find me to ‘get revenge’ for ‘upsetting princesses’. Charming.
Sorry to see this woman die in such an ugly manner, but the local Seattle news media is unjustly treating her as if she was some kind of war hero. It is really sickening.
She wanted a dangerous mans job and she faced the associated risks. This does not a hero make.
The 5 minute tributes on every local news channel at every broadcast since the incident are becoming a bit daunting already. Funny that I never hear about any male guards being assaulted or killed and I am sure it happens often.
@Opus February 5, 2011 at 08:18
I agree Opus was right on the money. Opus wrote what I been telling people for years, and well … I think from now on I should just ask Opus to wright my posts
so i dont subject yo guys to cruel and usual punishment.
There is nothing in this post that many other contributors to the Spearhead.com haven’t also said, in many different ways! However, the same logic (?) that was responsible for the sheer folly of hiring women to work in a men’s (maximum security) prison also underlies all of the other follies of egalitarian feminism!
If women were banned from working in prisons, they would in short order be banned–or at least greatly restricted–from working in the Armed forces. either in active duty or in reserve capacity, they would be banned from most work in law enforcement, in long-distance trucking and maritime work, in much skilled factory work (additional question-did the requirement of hiring the fair sex for men’s jobs in manufacturing, mining, and shipping play any part in the abandonment of the US labor market for sounder labor markets overseas?–and probably in work requiring sound judgement under pressure, authoritative decision making, and ability to evaluate long-term consequences even in most professional and managerial positions.
Restoring sanity to prison hiring would almost certainly result in the elimination of most, if not all or women’s “gains” in the labor market experienced in the last four decades or so, if not over the past century!
Of course, THEIR evaluation of these results would probably differ greatly from ours!! One more reason to highlight this tragedy, and others like it as soon as possible!
PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller
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Good Lord, “Oatmeal”!
With all of the feminist websites out there, mostly for females, but also for their male (?) lapdogs, why did you pick the Spearhead?
Have you dialed the WRONG number! Oatmeal, this is a website for men (and the women who love us) who recognise the absurdity of “equality” when it is applied to gender behavior and relationships, who reject feminist propaganistic brainwashing, and who are deeply distressed at the harm that feminists, their ideas and their policies have inflicted on our society if not the entire human race, during the past four or five generations.
We are trying to discover something better at the-Spearhead.com!
If you want to help us, welcome aboard! If you can’t, go to any number of websites and blogs where egalitarian and feminist foolishness, if not insanity, will be appreciated!
PS- If it makes you feel any better, I don’t think that slightly built, effeminate men should be doing men’s jobs either. I am sure that I have a lot of company here.–DKM
PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller
@Oatmeal
Thank you for stopping by and giving your opinion, even if i dont agree with it.
No. Men who are not Physical capable should not be employed In prisons.
I Would be willing to bet any guy here would agree. THAT is the point though. we live in the real world. All this wishy washy equality stuff doesn’t always apply.
I believe in Legal equality even if feminists dont. If you say feminism is about equality I would have to disagree with you. There may be women and men who believe in real equality and call them selves feminists but they simply aren’t. FEMINISM is about getting superior rights not equal.
Back to the subject at hand. Tough Jobs and the people who work them, Men. Just because somebody wants to do a job dosnt mean they can do a job. Take for instance Art i cannon draw or paint for shit. I could take some classes but at best it would be merely sucky instead of gouge your eyes out bad. Would you hire me to paint a family portrait? how about putting my butt on the front line of a Pro football team? (bad idea) I’d probably good for one play then they could drag my broken body off the field. Would you consider letting women and men play on the same Pro sports ? Instead of me in that lineman position some woman you know?
Its time the country got their head out of their butts. A woman can do anything a man can do and vice a versa is crazy. equal rights should be about being treated equal under the law to have the same say in government
with equal responsibility to same. Not equal outcomes.
Assuming your hetro and a man. Do you have a girlfriend or wife are you equal in respect to most rights? can ya kick her ass? all that Equality doesn’t mean much when reality rears it ugly head. When your trapped in a burning building and your life is on the line Firefighter would you rather see a 6’2″ 250 Lbs Man or a 5’2″ woman affirmative action hire?
Its time things get realistic and call a spade a spade
Feminism, with its advocation of the deconstruction of gender roles and blind promotion of gender equality, has been oblivious to the innate differences b/w men and women, basically the superior strength of men and their equipment to deal with certain situations that women are inherently not equipped for. The ‘I can do it’ attitude of the female workforce without considering the responsibilities and risks that come with the jobs is a hallmark of unwitting social oblivion that comes with a price that a scapegoat (men) usually pay for.
What the hell was a young woman, and a small one at that, doing working as a prison guard with the state’s most violent offenders?
Very good question!
“The worst part of it is, is that the prison-industrial complex is funded by the locking up of non-violent drug users, often marijuana smokers. ”
And JOBLESS and INDIGENT good fathers…
@bob
Prison-industrial complex ? really?? you have figured us out … if only i had some way to hide my piles of gold… you do know that we use inmates in hidden mines to gather gold right. its aaaaallll part of the plan…. the very best workers are stoners ya know …
there is no “prison- industrial complex” sheesh. Incarceration does not MAKE money it costs money … allot. on average its costs about 36k a year for each inmate. There are private prisons and they do make a profit but only because they are more efficient than Gov run facilitys. Prisons do not make the laws nor do they put people on trial. They just house the people the state sends them.
Do things cost a ton in prison? sorta stuff like phone calls and canteen can get pricey. the calls costa bunch because they are all collect calls AND the price of maintenance of the phone system the same phone system that takes alotta wear and tear when Jamal finds out his babby-momma is fucking his buddy. canteen cost a ton too its like going grocery shopping at 7-11.
but those costs are voluntary.
simply put putting a person behind bars is not money making it costs the taxpayer alot of money and prisions have no control of who or howmany people go to prision…. lawmakers and judges do.
BUT if you ask me if the people you mentioned
and
are locked up unnecessarily. I would agree 100%
I firmly believe that if all victimless “vice crimes” drugs, gambling, prostitution were made legal the current population behind bars would drop to a fraction of what it is.
as i said a million times before it makes no sense to blame police and Prisons
for the amount of people behind bars. its the LAWS that need to be changed and the people who make them. most of the BS laws today were made for the sole reason of gaining votes .
@bob
If you have the time I would like to hear your take on the
and how it works.
He qualified for medium security but that still means that there should’ve been guards watching him, GUARDS ….not just one.
How the hell does a convicted rapist get MEDIUM security anyway ?,
are we suppose to believe that he was somehow harmless?
People need to start understanding these 2 things….and fast
1. Make changes BEFORE something bad happens, the world doesn’t live on your time.
2. A criminal doesn’t have a certain look or do certain things.
and what’s this that the officers have NO WEAPONS while on duty ?
What the hell is wrong is some people ?
He qualified for medium security but that still means that there should’ve been guards watching him, GUARDS ….not just one.
How the hell does a convicted rapist get MEDIUM security anyway ?,
are we suppose to believe that he was somehow harmless?
People need to start understanding these 2 things….and fast
1. Make changes BEFORE something bad happens, the world doesn’t live on your time.
2. A criminal doesn’t have a certain look or do certain things.
and what’s this that the officers have NO WEAPONS while on duty ?
What the hell is wrong with some people ?
The fire department has a program you must pass in order to become a fireman. If you fail the physical component, then you are not capable of being a fireman and you will not get hired. I would rather have a 6 ft. 200 lb. man carrying me out of a burning house than a 98 lb. weakling. Sorry, them is the breaks.
A prison guard with a weapon among prisoners without a wall or set of bars between them would keep it for about 2 seconds before it got taken away.
I think feminists are confused as to the definition of both “equality” and “rights.” This woman has the “right” under the law to be able to have employment to support herself. She doesn’t have the “right” to have any job she wants. She was given the “privilege” of being able to choose to take that particular job. The same goes with anyone in this country.
I’m not going to go off on an angry tangent about how wonderful it is that this woman is dead. A human being was murdered, and that in itself is awful. But there’s something going on with a woman who would choose to work as a guard in a prison in the first place. Personally, even if I were completely destitute and desperate for money, I’d rather work at McDonald’s, Wal-Mart, singing for quarters on the street before I’d take a job in a prison with murderers and rapists.
And ask the man who didn’t get saved from the 5th floor of his burning building because his rescuer was a 5-foot, 100 lb woman how he feels about gender employment equality. Or the child who is kidnapped by a lunatic because the police woman chasing the bad guy down wasn’t fast enough to catch up with him. Or the construction worker who has to pick up his neighbor’s load because his female co-worker is slower and weaker.
The crazy thing is, most feminists who rail that women should have employment eqaulity aren’t taking these kinds of jobs in the first place. They’re railing in defense of other women. Most women don’t want to be police officers, soldiers, construction workers, etc. Most feminists don’t either. They still have the notion in the back of their mind that they’re “above” such work, but they’re more than willing to yell and scream and fight on behalf of other women.
Thank you Zed you are somewhat correct. The reasoning in MOST States to not allow weapons INSIDE the fence line is just that to prevent Inmates getting them. Allot of facilitys allow such things as pepper spray and maybe a Tazer or stun-gun, but that’s about it. A few more will allow Batons. In Virginia batons were taken away do to a lawsuit by a inmate. If you think THAT is bad i know of several places ware the very uniforms had been changed because inmates complained that they were intimidating. and im not talking body armor. Just things like black or dark color’s or BDU type clothing. I liked the BDU stuff because it was durable and comfortable to wear. nothing says fun like splitting your pants in the middle of a scuffle or constantly having to repair your uniform. In some cases a uniform is used against a C/O if its polyester Inmates have been known to throw flammable substances onto officers catching them on fire polyester is like napalm it burns well and sticks to you.
Im telling you Corrections is a dangerous job, they may not die in the numbers of other dangerous jobs but that’s because we have just been lucky. The Inmates know that they can take over a prison kill and rape everyone, but they cant get away. but stuff can and still happens.
This happened in New Mexico back in the 80′s. It was used as a lesson in training when I started. Its a good example of how bad things can get.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_State_Penitentiary_riot
At the moment I’m really burned out on putting any effort into lengthy comments because the tone of the site at the moment just seems to make them into invitations to lengthy arguments over issues which most people simply don’t understand. So, in that particular comment I jumped straight to the bottom line. However, as always, there are a lot of factors which contribute to the bottom line. I just skipped over those.
I don’t intend for this to come off as me, a layman, lecturing you, a corrections professional, Stickman. It is rather intended for those totally outside the system who have a simplistic view of it – like the guy who is surprised that officers on duty don’t have weapons.
Giving an officer inside a prison a weapon would be the same as painting a target on him/her. The only thing more valued than drugs in a prison is weapons. I have a friend who works in corrections and some of the stories he has told me have blown my mind. A toothbrush, a razor blade, and a Bic lighter can be used to fashion a pretty serious weapon. Even an ordinary nylon pocket comb, an emery board, and a lighter can be used to make something I would prefer not to have to deal with.
Prisons have a few hard core mentally screwed up criminal types, and a lot of poor schlubs who did something stupid, and a few actually innocent men. As long as conditions are not too bad, most of them just want to serve out their time, get their time off for good behavior, and get out. If the guards are not sadistic assholes, it is to everyone’s benefit to keep a lid on things and keep things calm.
Nothing will screw up the delicate balance inside a prison between decent guards and decent inmates like the presence of weapon. I’ve seen it noted on this site (perhaps in this thread, but I don’t feel like reviewing all the comments just to find it) that a small woman is more likely to escalate a situation than a larger man who is less threatened by the situation. The same applies to a guard inside facing a situation that is escalating. A weapon can very well install a false sense of security and power that would lead to escalation which could be avoided with a cool head.
If I, as a layman, had to go among a bunch of prisoners, there isn’t enough money in the world to get me to carry a weapon while doing it. Without something to make me an overt threat or high value target, most of the non-crazy ones realize they have more to gain from leaving me alone than they do from messing with me.
Which leads me back to a question I haven’t seen asked so far in this thread (granted, I have not read it all) – I know that the official feminist party line is that women are always victims and cannot be anything else, but it really should be asked whether this was just an opportunistic crime by someone who had the chance to do it, or had she been messing with this guy in some way? Was she sexually assaulted, or was she just murdered? Jailers (and workers in insane asylums) are prone to playing power games on the inmates which have been called the “key jingling syndrome.” Look at all the mind games women play on the outside, and it stretches credibility a bit to assume that every woman suddenly completely stops playing them when she puts on a guard’s uniform.
I’ve read and heard enough feminists to be puzzled by this. Since women are much smarter and stronger than men why didn’t she use her mighty brain and tremendous strength to control the situation.
She just can’t handle a strong, incarcerated man.
That is true. There are a lot of men who grew up with no fathers to set them on the right track who do stupid stuff without thinking it through, but who are not basically evil. They can create a danger to the civilized world until they get their head and their ass wired together, but can be put back on the good road most of the time. I don’t think that prison helps much with this process, but I do know that it keeps the prisoners away from everyone for a time, and incarceration thus has its value. But it is a nut-buster to the men who never had an easy road of life getting to that point.
What is the magic solution to keep the men who just fucked up out of prison? If I figure out a comprehensive answer, I will let you know, but I am sure that it does not involve the current set of child custody laws that tend to keep fathers from their kids.
But there are sure some who are evil, too!
One time I was walking from a mall during the spring & it started to rain so I’m running home because I only had t-shirt on a female cop pulls me over saying I look like. A suspect,mind you that I rarely if ever get in trouble with the law,while I’m soaking wet she’s aking me questions with a shit eating grin. Like do you have a girlfriend? Now normally I’m pretty mellow man,its takes allot to me mad,but being soaking wet puts me in a raw mood but she was acting like she was enjoying me being soaking wet. As if I was a male stripper,mind you the cop was pretty but I didn’t care because I was too mad & then she assumed. I was homeless & that set me off,when I get mad I don’t raise my voice as a matter of fact my voice gets low like Clint Eastwood & I can give a look that can scare grown men. In that low voice,my eyes locked in to hers she was like a deer in the head lights & her jaw dropped in fear now part of me wanted to ripp her apart. But I have self control,so I told her I wasn’t homeless then at the end she said sorry for the inconvience,but its funny how this female cop could. Menatally cringe in fear,I would hate to see her in a fire fight she’d piss her self!
What?! Woman, did you really just write this? You’re a typical woman. You are missing the entire point, that women shouldn’t be guards in male facilities, period. Listen to your own stupidity: “I wouldn’t go out with someone who did something really bad, but I’m sure there are some cute guys in there on minor offenses. Plus some of the other guards might be nice.”
You would not date someone who did something “really bad”. Hmm, that’s very trite, because there are plenty of incredibly violent, dangerous men out there that simply haven’t yet done something pretty bad, you moron. It never ceases to amaze me how ignorant women are of the role their hormones and instincts play in choosing which pole is going to ram their hole.
You do not go into a prison to find a mate. The notion that you might consider such a ludicrous concept speaks volumes to your own idiocy, and to the now obvious fact that you too are attracted to aggressive/dangerous males.
Women attracted to such men are only drawn to them because of the very old, instinctual drive that makes her think that because he is dominant and aggressive, he has more potent sperm, which thanks to science, we now know to be complete bull. Why women do not employ some logic instead of foolishly giving in to their instinctual sex drive (GINA tingle) is beyond me.
Oh wait, it’s because Y.A.A.F.M!
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