When Your Adult Daughter Suddenly “Remembers” That You Raped Her When She Was Three . . . .

by pierceharlan on January 25, 2011

In Dane County, Wisconsin, a jury has awarded $1 million to Dr. Charles and Karen Johnson, a former Madison couple who alleged that therapists implanted in their now adult daughter false memories of childhood sexual and physical abuse. The case has been cluttering up the docket for fourteen years, but at the time it was filed, it was just “one in a long line [of cases] across the country related to a controversial treatment called recovered memory therapy,” see here, a therapy that supposedly helps patients reclaim repressed memories.

One day, the adult daughter, Charlotte Johnson, who is now estranged from her parents and had nothing to do with their lawsuit, dropped a bombshell on them by announcing that her physician father had raped her when she was 3-years-old. See here.  Charlotte later announced that her mother had attacked her with a knife and tried to drown her. She also claimed that her parents were Satanists who dabbled in cults and infanticide. See here.

“It’s wacko stuff,” said the Johnson’s attorney Bill Smoler, who specializes in false memory cases.

Although mothers are not spared from the daggers of their daughters’ lies in false memory cases, fathers, and their penises, are the primary targets of repressed memories.

For the record, in the Johnson case, the defendants’ attorney denies that his clients practiced recovered memory therapy. Nevertheless, the jury found in favor of Dr. and Mrs. Johnson.

During the 1990s, there were thousands of false memory cases across America. One involved Katie Spanuello’s daughter, who accused Katie and her husband of abusing her as a child. It turns out the allegations were made only after the daughter had read a book called “The Courage to Heal,” written by feminist poet and creative writing teacher Ellen Bass and incest survivor Laura Davis, which encouraged women to find the source of their emotional problems by dredging up painful memories of childhood abuse. The problem is, many women dredged up things that never happened. Aside from reading “The Courage to Heal,” according to Katie Spanuello, the daughter made her false claim only after affiliating herself with “militant feminists.” The daughter eventually recanted her claim.  See here.

Former supermodel Karen Mulder once claimed in front of a live audience that many men–including her friend Prince Albert of Monaco and her own father–had raped her. Mulder ultimately admitted that she was suffering from emotional problems because, she claimed, she had been abused by an older male family friend (who is now dead and cannot refute the claim) when she was two years old. She “repressed” the incident for many years but, of course, was able to piece it back together in psychoanalysis. That’s all the “experts” needed to hear: “In some ways, delusions can be an adaptive response to stress,” said Bonnie Strickland, Ph.D., a professor of psychology at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst. “Sometimes, when trying to understand why something happened to you, you start making up things that are going wrong that you can point to. If there’s a history of sexual abuse, then the rape allegations could well be an attempt to understand how she feels toward men in general. She knows that something is wrong.” See here.

You see?  False rape claims are perfectly understandable after all.  The false accuser isn’t a criminal; she just needs help.

The Second Circuit Court of Appeals recently explained:

“Overall, at least seventy-two individuals were convicted in nearly a dozen major child sex abuse and satanic ritual prosecutions between 1984 and 1995, although almost all the convictions have since been reversed. . . . Some defendants, fearing trial, pled guilty or ‘no contest’ to impossible acts of ritualistic abuse, and in some cases they provided detailed confessions in exchange for immunity or generous plea bargains. . . . . Many have described these widespread prosecutions as a modern-day ‘witch hunt.’

“These prosecutions were largely based on memories that alleged victims ‘recovered’ through suggestive memory recovery tactics . . . . Indeed, the dramatic increase in conspiratorial charges of child sexual abuse has been traced to a relatively small group of clinical psychologists who supported the psychoanalytic notion of ‘repressed memories’ and encouraged patients to employ extensive ‘memory recovery procedures’ to ‘break through the barrier of repression and bring memories into conscious awareness.’”

Friedman v. Rehal, No. 08-0297 (2d Cir. filed August 16, 2010).

As if men don’t have enough difficulty avoiding situations where false rape claims might occur, now even monogamous fathers, in seemingly stable relationships, had to worry about whether their grown daughters might imagine a rape that supposedly occurred 20 years ago. 

While it might seem other-worldly that we would permit witch doctors to determine whether men languish behind bars for many years, the fact is, when it comes to men and sex allegations, no “science” is too bizarre, primitive, or inhumane. It’s for that reason that penile plethysmograph testing, a sort a junk science polygraph of penises, and “masturbatory satiation” sessions, are often used as a basis to decide whether men or boys convicted of sex offenses should be released from custody.

I have a better idea to decide the fate of a man accused of a sex offense: bind his hands and feet, and throw him in a lake. If he floats, he’s guilty.

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Alcuin January 25, 2011 at 03:32

“…which encouraged women to find the source of their emotional problems by dredging up painful memories of childhood abuse. ”

The ole blame-it-on-men game. Think I’ve seen that somewhere before. The more real power women get, the more blaming they seem to do. Maybe that’s why patriarchy developed in the first place. Our forefathers were not so stupid after all.

“You see? False rape claims are perfectly understandable after all. The false accuser isn’t a criminal; she just needs help.”

The ole psychologize-woman’s-responsibility-away game. Seen that one before too. Again, women don’t commit evil or do bad things. No ethics are applied to women. Their actions are psychologized away. Nice invention, psychology. For women, anyway.

When men do bad things, they are judged by ethics. If they try to psychologize their behavior away, they are shamed: “Be a man and take responsibility.” See my article “Ethics is for Men; Psychology is for Women”

Now we know why Islam requires 2 (or more) female witnesses for every one male. Seems rather generous to me.

“I have a better idea to decide the fate of a man accused of a sex offense: bind his hands and feet, and throw him in a lake. If he floats, he’s guilty.”

The ole try-to-use-humor-with-feminists game. Feminists have no humor. Don’t you know that by now?

Dangerous to joke about such matters. Given the false info about the medieval witchburnings (the thousands of men and women burned at the stake magically becomes “millions of women” without any proof or real research) has stoked the need for revenge in the hearts and minds of countless women (not to mention the fact that they can’t seem to get laid). Many Western women with whom I’ve worked would half-seriously agree with your statement.

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Opus January 25, 2011 at 04:23

Interesting that the sexual abuse is so often linked to Satanism. These allegations always come from xtian women (not that I am wanting to be anti-xtian) and say far more about their fantasies than anything empirical.

Interesting also that the ‘victim’ will claim rape by her father – rather supporting that Freudian idea that women secretly want to oust their mothers to acquire their fathers.

Personally, however, I blame Freud and the nonsense which is psycho-analysis and psycho-therapy – allowing oneself to indulge in emotional garbage, for as we know, when a woman gets an idea (fantasy) into her mind – hey presto – it becomes true. As Zammo was saying, on the other thread but one, it is projection.

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Bob Smith January 25, 2011 at 04:43

If the statute of limitations hadn’t been eviscerated in most states this problem by and large wouldn’t happen.

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Opus January 25, 2011 at 04:49

Since when did Limitation apply to Criminal Cases? – n0t that I know much about the law of the U.S. States Civil Law is a different matter, and (I suppose) time might be said to run from the time when the Plaintiff first became aware of the action that founded the cause of action (i.e. when she made it up).:-)

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Stickman January 25, 2011 at 04:54

what the deuce! i thought all this crap went the way of the Dodo after that crap fell apart over in eastern Washington.

so…. if w woman can draw out and “remember” her abuse from when she was and infant. Men should be able to get “treatment” to come to terms with the memory of being tied down and mutilated against their will when we were circumsized. i think i need at least 10 million to get over my memory’s at least. unlike these women i have evidence it happened and show REAL loss of quality of life. there is most likely records proving who did it and when as well. open and shut if you ask me.

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Pierce Harlan January 25, 2011 at 05:15

Bob Smith, you are exactly right. Thank you for pointing it out.

In the U.S., there is a trend to extend and even abolish statutes of limitations for rape.

False reports, in contrast, are often subject to a very limited statute of limitations that will bar most claims if the woman’s lie has its intended effect and her fraud is not discovered for several years. Now that’s fair, isn’t it? But wait. It gets worse. Much worse.

Removing the time frame for prosecution opens the door to turn nasty family feuds into criminal cases. Alleged rapes from long ago are held over the heads of adult males to exact concessions. Extending or eliminating statutes of limitations for rape leaves innocent men at a serious, and possibly fatal, evidentiary disadvantage. Any trial lawyer can attest that the passage of time erodes one’s ability to defend charges.

What are the practical implications if an innocent man is accused of raping an acquaintance ten, or twenty-five, or even fifty years ago? In many cases, the man’s accuser would assert that the supposed act occurred on a specific date, at a specific place, and she would paint a vivid picture of the supposed surrounding circumstances of the sexual encounter. She would justify her ability to remember with specificity by the supposed trauma she experienced.

In contrast, the innocent man’s memory will have faded to the point that he likely would have no recollection of even where he was at the time in question; whether he was out of town with the high school basketball team; sick in bed with the flu; away visiting grandma; whether he or she were drinking; what they might have discussed; where they went or with whom they interacted prior to and after the supposed sexual encounter. In fact, the most an innocent man might be able to honestly assert is, “I would never rape anyone and did not do what she alleges, but I have no clear recollection of the night in question.”

He almost certainly would have long ago destroyed any evidence proving he was somewhere else at the time of the alleged act (for example, he would have discarded calendars, plane tickets showing he was out of town, credit card invoices showing he ate at some out-of-town restaurant, and any other tangible evidence that would exonerate him). He almost certainly would have destroyed any evidence showing a consensual relationship with his accuser (e.g., love letters or cards, voice mails, emails or text messages). Alibi witnesses likely will have disappeared or even died.

In short, an innocent man hauled into court on rape charges ten, twenty-five, even fifty years after the alleged act is like the warrior of old entering battle stripped of his shield and sword. His ability to defend the charges would be decimated by the passage of time.

Is that in any sense fair to innocent men? Of course it isn’t. So why do we allow it?

Because we don’t really care about innocent men or boys.

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POIUYT January 25, 2011 at 05:30

But of course it is very very easy to impregnate this societies females minds with falsely recovered memories of child abuse, sexual asaults, rapes and domestic violence. Permissive attitudes toward women on account of their gender plus the befoulling cultural atmosphere of misandry, coupled with encouraged idlemindedness and laziness of females in this goddamned genderist land, leaves womens minds ripe and loaded with malice.

And however can it not be so, that womens malice is manifested in their recovered memories of sexual assaults or abuse, when they are groomed and conditioned by none other that the State itself, to feel sexually liberated and express open lasciviousity which are themselves the very catalysts for sexual sicknesses and mental halucinations.

This social seduction of western women by hysteria-raising, genderist anti-male propaganda, makes them see themselves as perpetually clean beings in body and mind, only despoiled, violated and made unclean against their wishes by male malevolence. That is, a politically asserted but unproven male malevolence, for which the ever vigilant and sexist Police State is to both protect and reward women falsely and with impunity, at the expense of men.

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alpha January 25, 2011 at 05:34

penile plethysmograph testing????
“masturbatory satiation” sessions???????

I can’t believe it

These quacks need their own Nuremberg trials!With the death penalty

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alpha January 25, 2011 at 05:38

Just looked at the links:

PPG testing is a procedure that “involves placing a pressure-sensitive device around a man’s penis, presenting him with an array of sexually stimulating images, and determining his level of sexual attraction by measuring minute changes in his erectile responses.” Jason R. Odeshoo, Of Penology and Perversity: The Use of Penile Plethysmography on Convicted Child Sex Offenders, 14 Temp.Pol.&Civ.Rts.Rev. 1, 2 (2004). Such testing has become routine in adult sexual offender treatment programs, with perhaps 25 percent of adult sex offender programs employing the procedure to varying degrees. It is often imposed as a condition of supervised release (probation), and is used to determine treatment and even as a basis to decide whether someone should be released from custody or from a treatment program. The device is routinely used at civil commitment facilities where thousands of sex offenders are confined or restricted beyond their prison terms under civil commitment laws on the books in numerous states. And, yes, boys as young as twelve are sometimes subjected to the procedure.

Some things are demeaning,insulting,humiliating,painful etc.

But this ranks as criminal

Is it just me, or do these so-called um “medical procedures” seem to have been invented by some psycho?

Witch Doctors who performed Human Sacrifices to frighten the populace and thus maintain their power have reincarnated it seems.

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Alcuin January 25, 2011 at 05:52

Poiuyt writes “But of course it is very very easy to impregnate this societies females minds.” I agree.

So why aren’t MRAs doing a better job of impregnating women’s minds with better things? Why aren’t we telling them what to think? Better than letting feminists tell women what to think. When men stopped telling women what to think, we started to run into real trouble.

Time to take the initiative away from the feminists.

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Robert in Arabia January 25, 2011 at 06:01

We must not forget how those evil Nazis treated the RAF pilots :

http://www.warandgame.info/2010/09/british-pilots-relied-on-german-sea.html

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EconE January 25, 2011 at 06:07

This “recovered memory therapy” is far more prevalent than you can imagine. It has been going on in “therapeutic boarding schools” for “troubled teens” since the late 70′s. All night therapy sessions (sleep deprivation/stress positions/etc) are the norm. All the schools are based on the Synanon model and include EST and Lifespring seminars/workshops.

I’d rather not say anything else as there are TONS of these schools out there now and we “survivors” don’t talk about it much.

Just google “therapeutic boarding school” + abuse and you’ll be on your way on a f**ked up adventure down an even more f**ked up rabbit hole.

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zed January 25, 2011 at 06:07

A woman I dated back in the early 80s did this to her father. Despite the fact that her mother and sisters all denied that it happened, she persisted in her allegations until the entire family refused to have anything to do with her. She got married a few years later, and has been cheating on her husband the entire time she has been married. I really dodged the bullet when I broke up with her.

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EconE January 25, 2011 at 06:16

Actually…try “Therapeutic Boarding School” + Synanon for a google search. Much more informative.

Enjoy!

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scot January 25, 2011 at 07:11

When rape accusations are so weird as to be almost un-believable, chances are they are un-believable.
Welcome to the culture of false rape accusations folks.

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Alcuin January 25, 2011 at 07:24

How many men have these “memories”? How many men go for the recovered memory therapy?

Any volunteers?

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scot January 25, 2011 at 07:25

Pierce, excellent commentary, I would add that its not only society doesn’t care about men and boys; its also American gender-raunch communities insatiable appetite for power.
The Klu-Klux-Klan would not have raised so many fallowers if it didn’t have so many false rapes to inflame the public with.
Gender-raunch would not have so many misguided eunech male fallowers, if there were not so many false rape accusations to inflame the public with.
No one in America stood against the Klu-Klux-Klan, and only a very, very, very, few can stand against the gender-raunch klan, because gender-raunch, just the the klu-Klux; has intertwined themselves into the rape hysteria machine. The only ones that can dissasemble the rape klan, hysteria machine is the American law enforcement.

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Opus January 25, 2011 at 07:27

Let us apply that old scientific rule-of-thumb: Inference as to Best Explanation.

Which is the more plausible:

A. Adult Daughter (through no scientifically verifiable explanation) remembers a Rape at age three.

B. Adult Daughter is fantasising or allowing others to influence her mind.

(Remember also, even two witnesses to the same recent event often have different memories thereof and in law the requirement to prove beyond reasonable doubt that is to say beyond a shadow of doubt must not be overlooked.)

Gosh! That’s a hard one.

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Cody January 25, 2011 at 07:35

Yeah, of course. When a woman commits a crime, the poor dear just needs help to resolve her past childhood and emotional issues. There needs to be healing. In contrast, when a man commits a crime he needs to be locked up for the protection of society, and the only healing that needs to be done is that of his bleeding anus after his cellie Bubba has his way with him and society has a collective laugh at the hilarity of prison rape because they (men) are all scumbag criminals and they deserve it.

Had Jared Laougher’s been a female both the two-faced media and legal system would be portraying her as a victim of the system, a poor mentally ill soul who had fallen through the cracks and who now society needed to show compassion to, in their vigilant effort to brainwash the public by eliminating a woman’s accountability from her crimes, but since the shooter is male and mentally ill no such compassionate stance and victim ideology has made its way into the light of day onto public airwaves. The media has even added fuel to the raging lynch mob’s arguments by branding Jared as a misogynist and political extremist while underplaying the elephant in the room – his complete mental illness.

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Rebel January 25, 2011 at 08:46

” Alcuin January 25, 2011 at 07:24
How many men have these “memories”? How many men go for the recovered memory therapy?

Any volunteers?”

There will be very few of them indeed. The prerequisite is hysteria: i.e. the possession of a uterus. I don’t know ant man that fits the description.

And the the question persists: is any man willing to go that low?

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Keyster January 25, 2011 at 08:51

I remember Rosanne Barr’s career kind of jumping the shark when she came out with the fact she had repressed memories of her father raping her. Her family was mortified and stunned. Of course no one ever accused ol’ Rosie of being an emotionally stable woman.

I agree about Freud. He was fascinated with trying to “cure” women of being hysterically inclined. Give a hysterical woman legal power and she’ll use it. It’s not her fault she’s bonkers, she’s a woman. She has hormonal issues.

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Jacob Cassidy January 25, 2011 at 09:10

Burn the witches and throw them in the lake. Wait, did any of them actually float or did they all drown?

There’s so many F’ed up things in the world of fake/pop psychology.

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F.M.R January 25, 2011 at 09:32

Ahhh, Rape. The new witchcraft, and conveniently enough only men can commit it.

Well, thats not patently true, at all, but you’ll never see women brought to trial for rape.

Heck, female rape is even normal in some cultures. Take the Trobriand islands, for instance, where females raping males is a normal thing at certain times of the year.
http://www.travelintelligence.com/travel-writing/culture-shock

“It’s a crazy time of year,” he said. “The big yam harvest will be coming in now. And women will be given permission by the paramount chief to capture men and have their way with them.”

“You mean, assault them?” I asked, disbelieving. “Sexually.”

“That’s it,” said Nick. “They will rape them.” He pronounced it ‘rep,’ as in travelling salesman, and made it sound just as casual.

Sometimes, if their victim can’t perform, the women urinate on him. And then there was the biting-off of eyebrows and eyelashes.

Of course, these insidious practices are never decried, or even mentioned, by feminists intent on ridding the world of supposed “Rape Culture”.

Funny how feminists arent very willing to speak up about this true Rape Culture.

Of course, when presented with this, they will use the same tired arguments. “He probably enjoyed it”, “Its a part of their culture, we cant force them to change”. To which I would say “What if females actually enjoy being raped? Sure, they might say things to the contrary, but what if they really like it? What if they just think its ‘Tabu’ To talk about it?” and “Well, what about this supposed ‘Rape Culture’ in the United States and other parts of the civilized world? What business do we have changing this supposed part of our beautiful culture, passed down to us by our forefathers?”

Of course, we all know why feminists dont confront true Rape Cultures like this dont we?

Feminists want power for women. They dont care about rape, they care about the legal power it can give them over a man. I guarantee you if we ever caught wind of a custom on some island that decreed men of the island must rape the women after the yam harvest, the jets would be scrambled immediately. This is the true reason why rape charges are given such importance; They give undue power to women, whether the rape is real or imaginary.

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Robert January 25, 2011 at 09:39

Keyster January 25, 2011 at 08:51

Could you imagine Freud psychoanalyzing a feminist? He more than likely did. I read somewhere he lost his mind after experimenting with LSD.

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Firepower January 25, 2011 at 10:09

Lies like these all but vanished during the PC Witch Hunt that was the 1990′s.

Even in America’s Heartland, Wisconsin. The MSM was a shockingly willing co-conspirator.

Now, with the entire American legal system firmly under the control of the PC crowd, the chickens come home to roost: exonerating the innocent to zero media announcement, decades later, in the glacial slog that is the pace of our failing courts.

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Richard P-Man January 25, 2011 at 10:35

“I have a better idea to decide the fate of a man accused of a sex offense: bind his hands and feet, and throw him in a lake. If he floats, he’s guilty.”

You could also see if he weighs less than a duck – if he weighs less than a duck – he is innocent.

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Richard P-Man January 25, 2011 at 10:40

@alpha:

“These quacks need their own Nuremberg trials!With the death penalty”

Or at least – psychologists and psychiatrists need to have the capability of being sued for malpractice – and have their licenses revoked.

This will not happen though – they have legislated themselves into corners…

Did you know that a shrink can declare that somebody is schizophrenic – but a shrink can NOT declare that somebody is NOT schizophrenic.

Convenient isn’t it.

They can declare you mentally ill – they cannot declare you mentally stable.

CHA-CHING!!!!

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Robert January 25, 2011 at 10:44

alpha January 25, 2011 at 05:38
Just looked at the links:

PPG testing is a procedure that “involves placing a pressure-sensitive device around a man’s penis, presenting him with an array of sexually stimulating images, and determining his level of sexual attraction by measuring minute changes in his erectile responses.” Jason R. Odeshoo, Of Penology and Perversity: The Use of Penile Plethysmography on Convicted Child Sex Offenders, 14 Temp.Pol.&Civ.Rts.Rev. 1, 2 (2004). Such testing has become routine in adult sexual offender treatment programs, with perhaps 25 percent of adult sex offender programs employing the procedure to varying degrees. It is often imposed as a condition of supervised release (probation), and is used to determine treatment and even as a basis to decide whether someone should be released from custody or from a treatment program. The device is routinely used at civil commitment facilities where thousands of sex offenders are confined or restricted beyond their prison terms under civil commitment laws on the books in numerous states. And, yes, boys as young as twelve are sometimes subjected to the procedure.

Some things are demeaning,insulting,humiliating,painful etc.

But this ranks as criminal

I agree. It IS cruel and unusual punishment.

Is it just me, or do these so-called um “medical procedures” seem to have been invented by some psycho?

It is not you.

Witch Doctors who performed Human Sacrifices to frighten the populace and thus maintain their power have reincarnated it seems.

Feminists both; have and still do the same. They will sacrifice one female as long as “the martyr” will be honored by the sacrificing of a determined numbers males by the feminists’, and their ilk’s/supporter’s/enabler’s choosing(s).

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Nutz January 25, 2011 at 10:48

Just another example of when men commit a crime they’re viewed as monsters who need locked up, but when women commit a crime (false rape claim) they’re “ill”.

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SingleDad January 25, 2011 at 10:57

Interesting discussion of Freud and feminism:

http://www.janushead.org/JHFall98/sbromm.cfm

From reading, it seems that Freud may have been more influencial that Simone De Beauvoir in the emergence of feminist hegemony. He personally removed the controls that society had on the most dangerous parts of womans nature much like Hitler removed the moral constraints that allowed Germans to become monsters. It is interesting that the quotes from De Beuviour say about feminity:

“Woman was declared made for the family, not for politics; for domestic cares and not for public functions… Femininity was a kind of ‘prolonged infancy’ that set women aside from the ‘ideal of the race’ and enfeebled her mind… in morality and love women might be superior, but man acted, while she remained in the home without economic or political rights”

Sound familiar? Seems like De Beuviour was a budding mens rights activits. The only thing she disagrees with us on philosphically is the cause. She believed that it was external forces that caused women to have an enfeebled mind.

We would call this the pussy pass.

Things haven’t changed much, today we say that NAWALT and the ones that are have been caused by “feminism” and chivalrous laws that allow the pussy pass. We still give no moral agency to women so they are above blame for even killing their husbands in cold blood or children actively drowned, gassed of throats slit, or passively allowed to drift into crime and drugs, and, eventually prison.

It is also intersting from that quote of De Beuveriour that woman are morally and in “loving” superior to men. The outing of the female supremicist movement.

So female supremicists began talking openly about their gender superiority a very long time ago. Today we live with the devistation that has been wrought by those who ignored history and couldn’t say no to their mothers, wives and daughters allowing them to use their “superior” morality to re-invent deptors prison, organize and destroy that entire concept of family and create indentured servants of multiple generations of men uppon risk of incarceration, reviving that most moral of legal principles, debtors prison.

And this female “moral superiority”, unchecked, has created the largest unprosecutable group of child murderers and abusers the world has ever known, and I count abortion.

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TFH January 25, 2011 at 11:23

Great News!

A British MP calls out misandry for what it is! :
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1350128/Tory-MP-Dominic-Raab-calls-male-equality-Feminists-bigots.html

We have to contact Dominic Raab’s office, and send him supporting content, and letters of encouragement.

If you really want misandry to be obstructed, you have to make the effort to get behind a rare politician like this. Send him content that provides solid data about the evils of feminism.

If you take no action, you can’t expect others to take action to benefit you.

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Keyster January 25, 2011 at 11:35

De Beuviour said a lot of things and was a Marxist/Existentialist before anything. She was critical of men and women equally, but her quotes critical of women have been scrubbed since Feminists adopted her as a sort of Founding Mother. They cherry picked only the quotes THEY wanted people to hear. The ones that had a snappy verbal resonance.

Freud interviewed feminists. This is where his “penis envy” theory came from. The penis being a metaphor for women being angry and confused that they weren’t more like men.

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Lsmbr January 25, 2011 at 12:21

Recommended: “No Crueler Tyrannies: Accusation, False Witness, and Other Terrors of Our Times” by Dorothy Rabinowitz.

Here’s an interview trasncript from C-SPAN Booknotes:

http://www.injusticebusters.com/2003/Rabinowitz_interview.htm

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pierceharlan January 25, 2011 at 12:36

I just had to share this story with the Spearhead readers. It is almost sickening to me: http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/2011/01/it-is-awful-to-prosecute-15-year-old.html

Opus January 25, 2011 at 12:37

Very nicely put Single Dad!

Women trot out all the time this ‘we women are superior ‘ in this, that, and the other without any supportng evidence. One can only laugh at the self-serving-delusion. Just more of their fantasies.

What I do observe is Penis Envy. Whatever men are doing they want to do, do it poorly, use their pussy-pass, and then try and move on to where the top-guys then are.

Perhaps one of the women here can explain precisely and in what way women are superior to men in loving and morals. I see no evidence of this, indeed I see the opposite. Tease, False Rape, Divorce, fake DV, Abortion, need I go on – or are we men supposed to be responsible for female irresponsibility?

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SingleDad January 25, 2011 at 13:27

You ladies seem to be constantaly trying to derail threads and obstruct any constructive discussion, Opus asked a reasonable question.

Where are the answers?

How very much you all are “like that”.

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Avenger January 25, 2011 at 14:32

Indeed, the dramatic increase in conspiratorial charges of child sexual abuse has been traced to a relatively small group of clinical psychologists

That’s right, a tiny group of wackos. with a perverted agenda For the protection of men and society in general they should have been liquidated. You’ll see how quickly this insanity would end.

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SingleDad January 25, 2011 at 14:47

OT:

Boys 2-3 times more likely to seriously consider suicide after their parents divorce.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/25/sons-of-divorce-fare-worse-than-daughters/?src=me&ref=health

Couldn’t be that they need their dads. Nah.

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Avenger January 25, 2011 at 14:48

Roseannae Barr did the same thing to her own parents. Here’s a pic of her just to show you how sane she is and btw she’s a jew.

http://newsbusters.org/sites/default/files/thumbnail_photos/2011/January/Roseanne.jpg

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stickman January 25, 2011 at 16:40

hey guys i know this aint gonna be popular but if i didn’t bring it up an important part of the story will go untold.

penile plethysmograph testing

At my job we have a guy who was found guilty of and admitted to over 30 molestations of young boys. and he wasnt just diddleing them if you catch my drift. noe he was sentenced to i believe 20 years not sure but a long time. not long enough in my book. personalty i would have preferd death.
anyway the people who do these things simply cannot be cured. if they get a chance they WILL do it again plain and simple.
the only way they can keep them in after their sentence has been served is to put then in a mental hospital or sex offender ward and use tests like the penile plethysmograph. to show that they are still a danger to society

so we are in sticky situation. REAL sex offenders of REAL sex offenses cant be cured so we need a way to keep them from endangering society. men who are falsely accused of these crimes get stuck in same barrel and are then made victims of a bullsh*t system.

im not saying its not a crazy method full of quackery. but its what we have right now to keep the REAL monsters off the street. and before you comment i dont know if they do or how they would treat women sex offenders the same. im thinking it a safe bet that they dont but i could be wrong .
im thinking they only way to solve this issue is what we already know. change the laws in regards to keeping the accuser and accused names from being divulged. return to a true burden of proof on the accuser and make false accusation of a crime just as criminal as the crime the accuser brought to the table in the first place. false accusation mind you not dropped due to lack of evidence or true mistaken identification. and the police will have to investigate it not this shake and bake crap. if the faulse accuser if found guilty of the crime THEY do the time.

thoughts?

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stickman January 25, 2011 at 16:45

sorry for the typo’s i know im bad already but when i try to rush it gets worse

maybe i should try that preview button thingie hmmmm

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Uncle Elmer January 25, 2011 at 16:52

A Penile Plethysmograph could provide feedback signals to the mouth or vagina (or even the anus) of a sex-bot. These signals could be part of a user-tweaked adaptive blowjob control system, for instance.

Current technology may be too cumbersome, but advances in MEMS technology could produce a penile sheath embedded with thousands of plethysmographic sensors (really just ordinary nano pressure devices) sensitive enough to provide conformal dick-mapping to the user’s dream twat. Anticipated explosive demand for sex-bots may drive these products into our homes within a few years.

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stickman January 25, 2011 at 17:45

thank you Uncle Elmer you have turned the horrifying nightmare of a device that turns my libido against me like a dick gripping judo master. into the even MORE horrifying night terror that i just read a post about electro-mechanical vaginas written by a guy named Uncle Elmer.

i think im gonna go soak my eyes in dish soap now

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continent January 25, 2011 at 18:38

False fodder for Human Trafficking organizations.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/anne-arundel/bs-md-hillar-20110125,0,2814667.story
Quote
“And he frequently speaks out against human trafficking, claiming in marketing materials that his only daughter was kidnapped, forced into the sex industry and killed — a story that became the basis, he has said, for the 2008 film “Taken,” starring Liam Neeson.”

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Donn January 25, 2011 at 19:37

@Scot

That’s where I think you’re mistaken, it’s not trusting law enforcement to break up the klan that we need to be doing, its us actually impacting the legal system and demanding a change, need I remind you that a lot of police officers held positions in the klan, as well as turned a blind eye when the klan would attack minority neighborhoods

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continent January 25, 2011 at 19:51

When the child abuse witch hunt occurred in Minnesota, the accused sued then- Distinct Attorney and others. The appellate court held that they had immunity from lawsuits. My recollection is that the U.S. Supreme Court refused to hear the case.
810 F.2d 1437

Greg MYERS, etc., et al., Appellees,
v.
R. Kathleen MORRIS, Scott County Attorney, etc., et al., Appellants.

No. 85-5243.

United States Court of Appeals,
Eighth Circuit.

Submitted May 13, 1986.
Decided Feb. 3, 1987.
Rehearing and Rehearing En Banc Denied April 9, 1987.

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continent January 25, 2011 at 19:57

Wikipedia listing of child abuse hysteria in various countries. Media glorified the prosecutors and parents and others became paranoid. Link;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_satanic_ritual_abuse_allegations

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Avenger January 25, 2011 at 22:02

Dad writes-’Boys 2-3 times more likely to seriously consider suicide after their parents divorce’Couldn’t be that they need their dads. Nah

It could. But it could also be from having to live with the typical neurotic drama queen female all day. And when there’s no man in the house to control the female’s insanity she really runs amok. It’s like leaving a 10yo kid in charge of a house and another kid.
You ever see females who live alone? 90% of them are crazy and if they have a cat make that 100%.

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Robber January 25, 2011 at 22:23

“My Lie”: Why I falsely accused my father – Salon article with author Meredith Maran on why she falsely accused her father of sexual abuse.

http://www.salon.com/books/int/2010/09/20/meredith_maran_my_lie_interview

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Avenger January 25, 2011 at 22:26

Is it just me, or do these so-called um “medical procedures” seem to have been invented by some psycho?

The Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine of 1949 was awarded to António Egas Moniz “for his discovery of the therapeutic value of leucotomy in certain psychoses”.

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Alcuin January 26, 2011 at 01:17

Isn’t it simply a ridiculous culture we find ourselves in? Who did that? Men? Or women?

Why is it that the more freedom and public responsibility women get, the more nonsense and depravity we see?

Any suggestions?

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Nergal January 26, 2011 at 02:51

“Interesting also that the ‘victim’ will claim rape by her father – rather supporting that Freudian idea that women secretly want to oust their mothers to acquire their fathers.”

Actually, I believe the Freudian theory is that,like with males, women want to kill their father and rape their mother, only the female realizes somehow (don’t ask me how,Freud was insane) that she doesn’t have the …erm… equipment to rape her mother, so she then sets out to acquire her father’s penis in order to rape her mother but for some reason gives up on the “rape mom” quest by the time she hits puberty and transfers the quest to acquire her father’s penis onto all men, i.e., she basically wants to acquire any penis.

Make sense?

No, not to me,either. What I find riotously amusing,though, is that basically all women are in agreement with Freud about the Oedipal complex and “castration anxiety”,but when one mentions the “electra complex” (the scenario described above) and “penis envy” then they decide Freud was a wacko. Freud should have simply came up with a psychological theory that women want everything both ways and rested on his laurels. That theory alone would have said all there is to say on the subject of women.

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Opus January 26, 2011 at 04:57

Yeah I got it round the wrong way, but with Freud it is all made up anyway, so who cares. I prefer Nergal to Freud: Women want it both ways.

Women want to reverse that basic rule of logic that something cannot be and not be at the same time. They do not like cause and effect – or rather fail to see it. Were it not for the fact that one cannot say two contrary things at teh same time, women would do that all the time. As it is they have to say A before contradicting with B, but in any event what they say may not be what they mean, even if they were aware of what they meant. Women=Prolonged Childhood.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) January 26, 2011 at 05:47

OT….a little more man-hatred from Liz Jones. I question the taste of the dogs.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1350547/Sleeping-pets-unhealthy-Id-rather-share-bed-cat-man.html

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Stickman January 26, 2011 at 08:01

HEY further up the posts i wrote a post.

stickman January 25, 2011 at 16:40

hey guys i know this aint gonna be popular but if i didn’t bring it up an important part of the story will go untold.

penile plethysmograph testing

i knew it would not be popular and thats fine. if you down graded it i would really like to know why and if you had a different solution or any input at all.

the reason is this at my Facility the local University (a very large and well known one) is doing a study on recidivism and a few other things.
so if you downed it, id like to read what you have to say because i can get ideas in the pipeline maby make a difference. you could be the one with the idea or start of an idea that can make an impact.

gotta start somewhere so lets see what ya got

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zed January 26, 2011 at 08:19

advances in MEMS technology could produce a penile sheath embedded with thousands of plethysmographic sensors (really just ordinary nano pressure devices) sensitive enough to provide conformal dick-mapping to the user’s dream twat. Anticipated explosive demand for sex-bots may drive these products into our homes within a few years.

I think you just set a new high-water mark for taking lemons and making lemonade, Uncle Elmer. ;)

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Yo January 26, 2011 at 08:35

Stickman,

I didn’t vote up or down, or even bother to read it.

The rules of grammar and spelling exist to remove ambiguity and facilitate reading.

When you can’t be bothered to spell and capitalize properly (at least the first word in the sentence), your writing becomes a wall of words.

If you can’t be bothered to structure your writing so that your points are obvious, or at least to make your writing easy to read, then you should not expect readers to invest their time.

So, what was your point, exactly?

You seemed to be saying that a method that is ineffective, at best, should still be used because bad people (men) need to be identified. (BTW, this approach isn’t very popular around here.)

But, again, I still don’t know what you were actually trying to say.

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SingleDad January 26, 2011 at 09:41

@ Stickman

Incarceration of men is the second favorite way of removing men from the population for feminists, abortion being the first.

So when someone comes here and supports the latest attack on men and boost to the LE pocket book, the unhealable man, we are more than skeptical.

What you are saying to me, IMO, is that men need to be incarcerated for life for crimes in which the penalty is not life in prison, you are saying that you don’t believe in the founding principles or our nation. This sort of thinking is how feminists think.

As a matter of fact, for crimes that would not be crimes in other times or places. And I am not addresing the example you gave, it is too simplistic.

But you went farther, you want to be the executioner.

After all I have seen from feminists and having been falsely accused myself, and for me it was “verbal abuse” because I got upset that she emptied our bank accounts and the mortgage could not be paid, we are skeptical of all prosecution of men in the MRM.

After that, the rest of your post seems trivial.

Women already have a licence to kill their husbands and, increasingly, their children.

We don’t need more people who are above the law to have to power to be judge, jury and executioner, IMO.

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Christopher January 26, 2011 at 09:51

Not surprised about this. I’ve personally been the target of false allegations of rape from children who I babysat (two girls who got mad after I REFUSED to touch them sexually), and I was always leery of this ‘recovered memory’ bullplop.

I was nearly raped at the age of 12 twice…. I have NEVER forgotten those attempted rapes for even one moment, so I knew that this ‘recovered memory’ stuff was bunk and more like brainwashing.

Really, this espouses why I say that we need to get rid of the anti-pedosexuality laws and statutory rape laws, and simply say that if there is no physical injury, then we automatically assume that any sexual contact even between adults and children was a consensual act, unless another person can come in and say “I stormed in and saw this person holding this little girl/boy down and raping them!”

I say that as a person who, as I said above, was nearly raped twice at 12 by people his own age and YOUNGER and who had consensual encounters with adults from the age of 7 and with other children from the age of 3.

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Stickman January 26, 2011 at 10:18

@ Yo

yes, you are correct. I was frightened by spelling and punctuation as small child.
All jokes aside, I will try to better

You seemed to be saying that a method that is ineffective, at best, should still be used because bad people (men) need to be identified. (BTW, this approach isn’t very popular around here.)

That was not my point. My point was that it is used as method to keep some sex offenders in custody after their sentence has been served. The reasoning is that they are still mentally ill, and dangerous to the public. It is widely believed (and I agree) that sex offenders cannot be “cured” that they will continue the activity’s and behaviors that got them locked up in the first place even after a lengthy incarceration. Penile plethysmograph testing is one of the methods used to test and justify continued custody.

I am not making an argument that penile plethysmograph testing is good or bad. what I am saying is that its one of the few tools we have available right now. If we want to admit it or not we do have a problem and it must be addressed. Some of these people just simply cannot be let back out.

The kind of people I am talking about are:
Serial Rapist
Serial Child Molesters
Serial “Peeping Toms” < these criminals though haven't physically assaulted anyone do sometimes, when its allowed to continue move on to more physical sex crimes.

All the other "sex crimes" such as marital rape or statutory rape and even carnal knowledge, are either BS or situational. Not to say they may not have committed an actual crime. but those seem to be one shot deals and more likely candidates for false reports.

what I am asking is this:
1) Do you believe that some sex criminals will always be sex criminals
2) If you do agree with above statement do you think they should stay in custody until no longer a danger to society.
3) If penile plethysmograph testing is used to much or is wrong all together what other methods would you suggest
4) (keeping in context) Do you feel that when A sentence it given and it is served that the person (sex offender) should be free to join the rest of society

I hope I have made myself more clear.
Please as I said id like your collective input.

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SingleDad January 26, 2011 at 10:35

@ Stickman

I have been trying to give you the benefit of doubt given your stated occupation.

I have to say though, you are asking us how to create ways to incarcerate men for ever even after they have done there time.

See guys, you cannot believe what the feminists and their proxies will do next.

I have suggested that concentration camps for men are on the horizon for feminists.

Now you hear it from the horses mouth.

Thanks for proving my point Stickman.

I think sex crimes should be removed from the docket and called assault. I think all criminals should be treated the same. Do the crime, do your time, then get out.

If we go down the road your suggesting it would lead to permanent incarceration of men for thought crimes, such as your example, a peeping tom. Not violent and could easily be mistakenly incarcerated.

Heck, they just tried to incarcerate a man for indecent exposure because some kid saw his, oh the horrors, nake body because the kid was looking in his windows….peeping tom charges were not filed.

And who would decide on permanent incarceration, Judges?, parloe boards? psychologists?

All these groups are our enemies. No the power you ask for is crazy and is already being abused.

We already live in a police state. You should know, you are paid to work at the male zoo’s we call our prisons.

If feminits have their way, and believe me the lies you were told about recidivism in sex realated questions comes directly from the feminists, we may one day have to open the prisons as zoo’s so children can see what a male Homo-Sapien looks like.

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zed January 26, 2011 at 10:52

1) Do you believe that some sex criminals will always be sex criminals

With such innocuous things as taking a leak outside where someone might see you if they look hard enough being defined as “sex crimes”, I would say that it is likely. I’m sure that someone can dig up a reference to the recent case where some guy was convicted of a sex crime for walking around inside his own house less than fully dressed, while the woman who was the real sex criminal for being a “Peeping Thomasina” went free to fuck over other men.

The fundamental issue here is whether this bizarre Frankenstein contraption is valid at all. Does it in any way differentiate pathological responses from normal ones? Is it any more valid that blowing pepper up a man’s nose and declaring him guilty if he sneezes?

If your goal is to assure that only sex criminals will approach women by pathologizing normal male reactions, it seems to me that you are well on your way.

Ever seen Clockwork Orange? Maybe conditioning all men so that the sight of an attractive woman makes them want to puke is the answer. Then you will be 100% right that if a man sees an attractive woman and doesn’t have the overwhelming urge to puke, that he probably isn’t normal.

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Yo January 26, 2011 at 11:27

Stickman,

Something that is not consistently accurate is not a tool but a farce.

There are people who should not be allowed to roam throughout society.

But categories are meaningless without precise and unchanging definitions.

If there were definitions, and directions for society, that were objectively transparent, the answers to many of your questions would become logically (deductively) obvious.

And a second chance would involve following a long and clear path, so that “serial” would no longer even apply.

I do not think that good answers to your questions even exist, in the context in which you are asking them.

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Robert January 26, 2011 at 11:36

I read somewhere that the police and many “experts” coach alleged victims’ as to what to say before men are indicted and, coach the alleged victim into what to say at trial (if the case goes to trial).

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Yo January 26, 2011 at 11:45

“I do not think that good answers to your [Stickman's] questions even exist, in the context in which you are asking them.”

But Zed and SingleDad did an excellent job of showing how Stickman was not asking “good” or well-defined questions.

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Stickman January 26, 2011 at 12:30

@SingleDad

You make an interesting argument when you said

I think sex crimes should be removed from the docket and called assault. I think all criminals should be treated the same

but without getting into a pissing contest (because those are pointless)
the rest of your post looks like you didn’t read all i wrote and was driven by your emotions.

The example that I gave (and you dismissed)

At my job we have a guy who was found guilty of and admitted to over 30 molestations of young boys. and he wasnt just diddleing them if you catch my drift. now he was sentenced to i believe 20 years not sure but a long time.

is based on not something I heard or made up but on an ACTUAL Case. he did these things over years but he did do them.

On the other hand the example YOU gave

they just tried to incarcerate a man for indecent exposure because some kid saw his, oh the horrors, nake body because the kid was looking in his windows….peeping tom charges were not filed.

that is not the sort of crime i was talking about. if you will look back you will see i used the word serial as in to do the same crime many times, over a period of time.
Being a “peeping tom” is not a “thought crime”, it is an action usually planed and it can be a predecessor to Physical attacks. can it be falsely reported yes. but again im talking about serial peeping. we have a guy here who has been busted over and over for it for last 6 years then he moved to grabbing well now he’s here for rape. not convicted but charged 3 counts.

the whole point of my post was to seek opinions on a better way. not a way to seek

concentration camps for men

believe it or not there is not a ninja behind every bush.

also i have no idea what your profession is and I would be willing to bet you have and insight into things about it i do not. would it not make sense that i may have a better perspective on parts of the justice system that you may not? because i see it from the inside. just like a coal miner or financial consultant may know something that would never come to my mind or even seem the opposite of what i think would make sense, because i dont do that job or have experience with it.

for clarification i work in a jail. used to be floor officer now low lev admin.
I dont Arrest People i deal with them afterward

Im looking for constructive ideas that was the point of the post.

with what i have said in mind do you have any constructive ideas?

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Stickman January 26, 2011 at 12:40

@ Yo January 26, 2011 at 11:27

thank you for your reply.

I agree but the problem exists the device and test do seem fallible. im not expecting a good answer but hopefully a better one.

And at the end of the day if im wrong … im wrong. Maby their is NO answer. could be like gun control. If you wish to live in a free society you have to accept risks.

Again thank you for your post, and for trying to get me to better my poor writing *S*

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SingleDad January 26, 2011 at 12:59

@ Stickman

Mine is that we live in a police state and we incarcerate more people in this country than any country in history. It is a national disgrace and I beleive history will find this to be one of our societies greatest evils just as we think of Siberia as being one of the USSR’s greatest disgraces.

So the current system cannot be trusted to make laws fair.

And it’s a MR issue because it is mainly men being incarcerated.

With regard to your prisoner, as you know, you can keep him locked up forever, no crime needs to have been done, happens all the time, just don’t ask me to tell you you did the right thing, because, in general you guys do not do the right thing, you protect your jobs.

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zed January 26, 2011 at 13:10

Maby their is NO answer. could be like gun control. If you wish to live in a free society you have to accept risks.

It’s a bit like the argument against capital punishment – sometimes the legal system gets it wrong. How many innocent men is it acceptable to execute so that no guilty one ever walks free?

I don’t have an answer to that. I wish I did. I know that I, personally, would not volunteer to be one of the innocent men executed because if a culture does not protect my life as an innocent man, then what good is it?

In terms of general answers, first I would suggest that this culture get its head out of its ass when it comes to sex.

In a culture which thinks it is fine to crucify innocent boys, but horrible to charge guilty girls with crimes it is difficult to accept the sacrifice of the innocent for the protection of the guilty.

Criminalization of normal sexuality will never do anyone any good, and it will never accomplish the intended result. When ordinary 17 y/o boys are treated as “deviants” for being attracted to young women at the peak of their beauty and fertility, we might as well make it a crime to get hungry.

If law enforcement wants to destroy its quickly fading credibility, and loss of public support, all it needs to do is continue down its current path of over-reaction.

If the famous Duke Rape Hoax taught us nothing else, it should have taught us that the last people in the world we can trust are those “entrusted” with administration of what is jokingly called a “justice system.”

If we are going to return to absolutely barbarity and decide to create eunuchs left and right, then fine, let’s just stop pretending that we are a civilized people.

http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/2011/01/witch-doctor-lawmaker-emmett-hanger.html

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zed January 26, 2011 at 13:13

With regard to your prisoner, as you know, you can keep him locked up forever, no crime needs to have been done, happens all the time, just don’t ask me to tell you you did the right thing, because, in general you guys do not do the right thing, you protect your jobs.

H. Betty Chadwick spent 14 years in jail because some judge thought he was hiding assets from the divorce jackals. As SD says, they don’t need a crime to lock us up, just the power to do so.

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Pierce Harlan January 26, 2011 at 13:43

Zed, you are a brilliant person.

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SingleDad January 26, 2011 at 13:46

And here is the man who was charged for being naked in his own home:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2009/10/22/virginia-man-charged-indecent-exposure-making-coffee-naked-kitchen/#

Do we really want to give people who can do this the power to keep this guy in prison forever?

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zed January 26, 2011 at 14:24

And you are doing brilliant, and vitally important work, Pierce. Please keep it up!

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RobertinArabia January 26, 2011 at 15:34

Scot wrote:
“The Klu-Klux-Klan would not have raised so many fallowers if it didn’t have so many false rapes to inflame the public with.”

The Ku Klux Klan, often abbreviated KKK and informally known as The Klan, is the name of three distinct past and present organizations in the United States,The first Klan flourished in the South in the 1860s, then died out by the early 1870s.The second KKK flourished nationwide in the early and mid 1920s, and adopted the same costumes and code words as the first Klan, while introducing cross burnings. The third KKK emerged after World War II and was associated with opposing the civil rights movement and progress among minorities.

I doubt that you have anything more than pure anti-white prejudice to back up your assertion that “false” rape charges were commonly used by any of the Klans to inflame the public.

All of the Klans viewed themselves as the defenders of white women from unwanted sexual advances of any type from black men.

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stickman January 26, 2011 at 19:16

Gentlemen.

I can see you dont care to much for Law Enforcement. Thats fine. I am learning I need to keep my thoughts to myself in that regard. But for this last post the genie is out of the bottle.
Allot of what some of you have said is true. We DO put huge numbers behind bars. and most of them are for activity’s that should not be crimes. I wont bother with A list as I have done so in other posts.

Some of you made true and valid statements. BUT what you wrote has almost nothing… NOTHING to do with the post I made and the questions I asked.

If I did not make myself clear that is my fault. But only Yo took the time to address the questions or ask for clarification. The other posters chose to respond in the same manner I have seen on feminist blogs. >Dont address the question, instead bring up other examples of victimization and wrongs done to them I gave an opinion. I asked for possible solutions to a problem. And when you were given an opportunity to hash out something better, something that could possibly make a change for the better, an impact. you chose to say. IM A VICTIM.. IM A VICTIM… IM A VICTIM!

You are indeed a victim of all the things you pointed out, but also of yourself because of your unwillingness to take an opportunity to change things.

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zed January 26, 2011 at 20:45

Stuff it, stickman.

I’m not your problem, but you are mine. If you want to keep these bastards in jail, why not just flip a coin? Can you say that what you are using is any more valid and reliable?

If I treat all women like they have the plague, I’m doing all I can do to stack the deck in my favor.

“Oh, a bunch of guys on a message board can’t come up with a solution to a multi-billion dollar boodoggle.”

If all the brilliant minds who constructed the system botched it so badly, why do you think a bunch of guys hanging out at the local watering hole can fix it? Once we solve that, shall we tackle US foreign policy over the next round of beers? Then come up with a source of clean renewable energy over the round after that?

The system is fucked. I can’t fix it. My only concern is staying out of its clutches. I’m not a victim because I have known it was fucked for a long time, and made it a point to stay out of its clutches for a long time.

I did tell you something to make it better – for this culture to take its head out of its ass when it comes to women, admit that they LIE sometimes, admit that they are sexual beings capable of initiating sex, and violence, and stop punishing any available man every time some woman screws up.

There’s your answer. Come back when you have it implemented and ask your next question.

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stickman January 26, 2011 at 20:58

thank you for your comment Zed. Its obvious I failed to make myself clear.

So whats the plan? Do we hide in caves until its over, or found a new country?

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Robert in Arabia January 27, 2011 at 00:52

http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2011/01/about-that-war-on-cops.html

Every week — actually, every day — innocent people across the country are harassed, abused, brutalized, tortured, and murdered by armed strangers in government-issued costumes. Most of the assailants are never held accountable. Often, they are placed on paid vacation (commonly called “administrative leave”) while their colleagues devise an official rationalization for their crimes.

According to one very conservative estimate, at least thirty citizens are killed in police shootings every month, many of which occur during paramilitary raids conducted, Soviet-style, at daybreak or nighttime. Innocent people are frequently found among those killed, wounded, or brutalized in those raids; one recent example is 76-year-old New York resident Jose Colon, who was shot in the stomach by a SWAT operator who pulled the trigger trying to operate a flashlight on his tricked-out pistol.

The grim but statistically inescapable fact is that the average American is much more likely to be killed by a cop than by a terrorist.

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stickman January 27, 2011 at 06:17

@Robert in Arabia

Thank you for the link interesting post.

My 2 cents is i noticed the latest batch of shootings Before it it the news as a “war on cops” that is a bunch of BS really there is no war on cops. People are never happy when a cop is around and if they are there for you and you have warrants on serious crimes. some people figure its better going out here instead of rotting in jail or the “hot shot”
I think the “war on cops” comment would not have been made if it haddent been that one incident in Detroit.
http://www.freep.com/article/20110124/NEWS05/101240382/1007/news05/4-officers-shot-gunman-dead-horrifying-attack

They dont say exactly why the guy did it. im sure more info will come in.
If i were to guess (and i am) I would say It was one of two things “suicide by cop” or the guy was so enraged at a perceived injustice he felt his only option was to strike back.

Anyway i think that one incident was the Catalyst for the dumb ass comment of a war on cops.

Also alot of people have commented on the militarization of the police in general. I know it was on the was before but the North Hollywood Shootout really shoved it into fifth gear. then 9/11 cops were pretty much appropriated by the Fed Gov to become the next branch of the armed services. seems to me like another step toward the police state that others have commented on.

A criminal is someone who commits crimes. That goes for people with and without a Badge

maby we should dissolve ALL Law Enforcement and Corrections. After all we didn’t always have these things. We can rely on personal and citizen policing and a “peoples court”…

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stickman January 27, 2011 at 06:18

oh here is link to wiki on the North Hollywood Shootout

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout

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zed January 27, 2011 at 10:00

So whats the plan?

Well, the plan here is “Piercing the Shield of Ignorance”, just like it says at the top of your browser window on the main page – continuing to expose the lies, hypocrisy, and corruption. We do it every day here at the Spearhead, and mostly turn a deaf ear to those trying to shut us up. Pearce and his compadre at http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/ do it every day.

The whole “war on cops” issue is a very sticky wicket. As the police have become progressively militarized, the guys who are the real criminals are seeing how they treat ordinary, innocent, citizens. Vox Day had a real good take on it, which already linked but here it is again. It’s generally called something like “escalation.” If they are going to kill ordinary citizens, criminals have nothing to lose by going out in a blaze of glory, or maybe even getting away.

What the cops, and prosecutors, cannot allow to happen is for the average citizen to come to fear and distrust them more than they fear and distrust the criminals. In black neighborhoods, crimes are often difficult to solve because “nobody seen nuthin.”

When it comes to the whole issue of criminalizing normal male sexual desire, the problem is magnified many times. The way that “rayyyype” has been redefined, and the inevitably conclusion that leads to things like Jessica Valenti’s suggestion of eliminating the presumption of innocence in rape cases, more or less makes any man who finds women attractive into a criminal and a deviant. Given all the fat hogs and dried up old hags I see around me every day, there may be some truth to that – any man who could find them attractive would strike me as a bit odd.

If the goal is to drive a wedge completely between men and women, the current strategy is probably going to work fairly well. The OP was about a man who probably cared a lot for his daughter, protected and provided for her, and she repaid him by giving some psychos the opportunity to try to put him in prison, where other psychos like Mike Nifong could get their kicks out of humiliating him.

As the old jailbird saying goes “if you don’t want to do the time, then don’t do the crime.” If you don’t want your daughter to claim that you raped her when she was 3, the most effective way to guarantee that is to not have any daughters.

With birth rates falling through the floor in most westernized countries, it may be that more men are following that course of action. I know that Julian Assange could have improved his chances of avoiding a false rape accusation by keeping it in his pants. Of course, sex doesn’t even have to take place in order for a false accusation to be made, but if it has then the vague issue of “consent” becomes much more significant in a man’s defense. At least setting the bar that it must be proven to have occurred at all puts a man on less precarious footing in court.

Any culture which convinces its members not to reproduce is committing suicide – like the Shakers and the Skoptsy who tried out a plan similar to our current one. The fact that they are nothing more than historical footnotes probably indicates that their strategies were pretty poor ones in the long term.

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Dulantha January 28, 2011 at 01:33

Things like these are well planed by feminists.

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john thames August 3, 2011 at 20:28

Suppose that boys started coming forward and claiming that their mothers routinely sucked them off while daddy was way at work when they were teenagers. The same feminists who preach “Believe the child!” would immediately proclaim: “Accusation is not proof!” They would insist that no mother would ever do such a thing; that accusation is not proof; that the door has been opened to every boy who dislikes his mother filing a false accusation to frame dear old lMom. In short, they would raise every objection they do not raise when it is men being accused. It kind of speaks for itself.

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Russ January 8, 2012 at 15:02

Unfortunately, my family is also faced with a daughter (she’s now 19) having false memories of sexual abuse (initially by some schoolmates which eventually expanded to include her father) due to “recovered memory therapy”, and has cut off all contact with us. We are not interested in suing (even though the therapists where she was treated sure deserve to be!) , we just want our daughter back and pray that someday she come to realize that these memories are false. The place she was treated by these therapists at seems to be a cleverly-disguised cult…I corresponded recently with someone who was her roommate and that’s what she claims it was and they use “recovered memory therapy” as a way of control and an effective way of separating them from their family.

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Barney December 21, 2012 at 04:04

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