Monkey See, Monkey Do

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by Keoni Galt on January 16, 2011

One of my favorite columnists is the ornery old ex-pat living in Mexico, Fred Reed. His latest column is an excellent piece on the inevitable collapse of the American economic and military empire, in which he uses the allegory of the monkey pot trap to illustrate the situation:

Pondering Whither America, I reflected on a story, probably apocryphal but which I am going to believe because I like it, about catching monkeys. Tribesmen somewhere craft a heavy pot with a hole in it large enough that a monkey could insert an open hand, but not withdraw a closed fist. They then put monkey food in the pot. The monkey reaches in, grabs the food and, refusing to let go when the hunters approach, is caught and eaten.

Here we have our politics in a paragraph. The American national monkey can’t let go. The party is over, boys and girls, but we aren’t going to adapt.

While Reed focuses his analogy to point out that the US is caught with it’s proverbial hand caught in a pot of foreign military occupations and insurmountable debt, I think this analogy is perfectly applicable to a lot more aspects of our modern day dystopia.

Consider the hand of the feminist-driven government that promotes a culture that inevitably leads to demographic decline of the populace…but all of the entitlement programs and wealth transfer schemes they use to induce Western Women to follow the feminist proscriptions are based on taxing the “haves” and handing over to the “have-nots.” But demographic decline means eventually you have more “have-not” dependents with their hands out and not enough “haves” producing the wealth for the government to take for redistribution.

The proverbial feminist monkey has got it’s hand in the pot, grasping the entitlements and institutions it needs to exercise it’s influence but can’t let go as the demographic realities it engenders approach to consume it.

Or consider the mother who divorces her husband simply because she was bored and inspired by cultural propaganda like Eat, Pray, Love and her peers who convince her that divorce is a great lifestyle adjustment that will improve her life. So she reaches in the pot and grasps the goods. At first she sees only the benefits of full custody of the children..the alimony, the child support, the house, the car. What a feast in that pot she was able to grasp!

But those kids eventually grow up. The child support ends, the alimony ends and if she did nothing but live off the money the state was transferring from her ex-husband to herself, she will eventually be caught by her own dependency.

I had a neighbor who fell into this precise trap. Once her youngest daughter turned 18, she had to sell her house and move into an apartment in a matriarchal ghetto part of town. It’s even more disgusting when you consider that she only had 5 years left on the mortgage and a mortgage payment that was literally only $1200 a month.

She could have gotten a job at a retail store or fast food restaurant to make those payments and own the house outright in 5 years time.

But 18 years of unemployment, living off the child support from her ex-husband to pay the bills, made her practically useless and unemployable. So now she’s living off the ever dwindling proceeds of the sale of the house. I believe she’s not even going to make it to social security age before that runs out. She’ll be on welfare soon enough.

But worst for her is the abandonment by her children. They’ve all moved out on their own, and have essentially disowned her and don’t keep in touch with her, even during the holidays. They’ve all reconnected and re-established relationships with their father, after years of alienation caused by their mother. She got everything she thought she wanted during those years…but is now left with nothing.

She put her hand in that pot and didn’t even try to let go until it was far to late.

Or consider the traps laid out for men with regards to the institution of Marriage 2.0?


By the way, much thanks to “Puma” for putting the Wedded Abyss site back up!

Many a man has got his hand caught in that particular pot and didn’t let go until he got spiritually, financially and emotionally raped by the divorce courts.

The allegory seems to be applicable to a wide range of institutions and cultural phenomena in our declining Western Civilization. It behooves you to recognize these traps laid out for us all, and refuse to put your hand into those pots and get caught.

Never forget that the primary bait used by society to get us all to put our hands in the various traps is our mass media cultural programming….Monkey see, monkey do.

While watching the NFL playoffs last weekend, I recognized a local banking commercial that reinforced the monkey see, monkey do programming that has been so successful in shaping the lives of our current generation – it showed a time lapse progression of a young girl’s life – from high school, to college, to a career as a doctor, to a mid-30′s bride followed by the 1.5 children and the white picket fence house, with the narrator talking about how this bank is WITH YOU AT EVERY STAGE OF YOUR LIFE.

This is the norm for women in our Brave New World Order. This is the monkey pot for you to stick your hand in ladies, because you can have it all!

Monkey see, monkey do.

Are you a monkey too?

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Traveller January 16, 2011 at 03:17

Good piece, I read that column just yesterday. I agree usually Fred focuses on the bad government, corrupt politics, extensive warfare, dumbed people. Rarely it writes about women, but he knows the Western women, he said he choosed a good Latina wife.

Anyway, I do not know how much common are the situations like that you describe. I think with less and less children around the lifetime divorce payments will become normal. Even if there are no children or if they are 18 old or over. This is said in the very site you report too.

The true monkey pot is the taxation of the men. And less and less food will be in the pot.

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J. Durden January 16, 2011 at 03:27

As many others have noted many times, one of the biggest effects of all this monkeying around with our society is the disenfranchisement of betas who would otherwise be productively engaged in making everyone’s life better.

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Carnivore January 16, 2011 at 04:44

Reed’s article brings the military–foreign-policy topic to the table, which is important since the Tea Party doesn’t touch it. HL, you’ve brought the feminism topic to the table, something both the Tea Party and Libertarians won’t touch. Yet, it’s precisely feminism that’s the root cause for many of the problems facing the west. Because these issues aren’t brought up by the main stream conservatives, libertarians, etc., I’m pretty pessimistic that any change will come about within the system.

Oh, and the monkey stuffed wax into his ears and put blinders on before putting his hand into the pot. Try broaching these topics with your average conservative man and you get no where. The manginas are deaf and blind in that regard. Sorry for the pessimism. Seems everything will have to crash before a sizable number will wake up.

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Carnivore January 16, 2011 at 04:45

BTW – great picture.

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Alcuin January 16, 2011 at 04:51

Excellent article. We Western men need a constant stream of such writing to remind us of what we’re up against when we get married.

Yet we’re still screwed even when we don’t get married. If a man works in a largely-female environment, such as education, social work, and increasingly, law, medicine, or management, he must toe the feminist line as well.

Many men have experienced trouble from predator feminist female co-workers. (Always backed up by manginas) Sometimes, a woman will accuse a man of inappropriate behavior because she likes him and wants him to notice her. Or she invites him for beers after work with the gang; he refuses; she feels jilted and, vindictively, makes an accusation.

Don’t think that the marriage strike is the end of your problems. As long as you live in a Western country, especially an English-speaking one, you are a target of women getting their jollies from all sorts of false accusations. Alimony and child support are only part of the feminist tool-kit.

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DirkJohanson January 16, 2011 at 05:39

Sometimes, a woman will accuse a man of inappropriate behavior because she likes him and wants him to notice her. Or she invites him for beers after work with the gang; he refuses; she feels jilted and, vindictively, makes an accusation.

I’m going through this type of hostility that at this instant. My ~50 year old boss, having already once filed for divorce, no longer wearing her wedding ring, and her marriage on the rocks, is often making compliments about my appearance, and derisive comments about my dating younger women.

On Monday, I put in a last-minute leave request for evening plans. By Wednesday I started getting nasty emails from her, and on Friday I was advised of a new policy that applies only to me: except for exigent circumstances, all of my leave requests for the week have to in place by 9 AM Monday morning.

I’ve decided to once and for all take her out – and what I mean by that is go for her head. I already called her bosses’ boss, who hates her. Enough is enough. I’m single, and have enough $ saved to live four to five years, and that’s not even counting if I do a few less hookers here and there. I’m not gonna take it anymore.

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Alcuin January 16, 2011 at 05:49

The biggest mistake you could do at this point is to try to get inside of her head. You might as well try to get inside of a cloud.

Much male suffering comes from trying to guess a woman’s next move, or why she did something. Much of the time, they are not sure why they are doing something. Even they aren’t inside of their heads.

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Gendeau January 16, 2011 at 05:54

DJ,

I hope it goes better than your worse case scenario.

With no kids or wife (any more), I too have the financial independance to do what I want to do (I’m not rich, just able to live without a paycheck for a number of years).

It’s a fantastic feeling to be able to talk to bosses and say, thanks but no thanks to your offer that “I cannot refuse”.

As others have said, if men don’t get married they have the opportunity of a far more interesting time. No immense mortgage, alimony, diamond ring, SWPL status whore cars etc.

It’ll be interesting to see how society copes with a large number of men saying that they want to work part-time (or walk).

Once again, best of luck

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Charles Martel January 16, 2011 at 06:14

Gotta love Fred Reed. He’s written a couple of excellent columns on feminism. My favorite:

Getting What You Want, Wanting What You Get
“I see where women, or college girls anyway, are honking and blowing most fierce about how they don’t like the way sex works nowadays. Yeah. It seems that the hook-up is in flower. This means that the girl meets some guy on a bus or in a remedial-reading class in college or finds herself in the same elevator, and he says, “Let’s screw,” and she does, maybe right there in the elevator, and then she’s all mad because she did, and because he did, men, the bastards.”

Here’s another:

Golf And Kidding Ourselves
“It seems like women want to compete with the men when they think they can win, but want protection from male competition when they can’t, which in sports is usually. Now that’s fair. As a trapdoor.”

And another, about a White Knighting Marine general. How have we sunk so low?

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Philip January 16, 2011 at 06:25

Just goes to show that women on the whole are a dependency class. Whether they depend on a husband, generous patron or the government.
Men should be careful not fall into this trap

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Ragnar January 16, 2011 at 06:46

J. Durden January 16, 2011 at 03:27
As many others have noted many times, one of the biggest effects of all this monkeying around with our society is the disenfranchisement of betas who would otherwise be productively engaged in making everyone’s life better.

Exactly JD.
You might even say that this is the difference between Mankind and humans living as mere primates or animals.

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Migu January 16, 2011 at 07:41

Ragnar called it again.

Mankind is not animal kind. When did we forget this?

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Migu January 16, 2011 at 08:33

I’ve decided to once and for all take her out – and what I mean by that is go for her head. I already called her bosses’ boss, who hates her. Enough is enough. I’m single, and have enough $ saved to live four to five years, and that’s not even counting if I do a few less hookers here and there. I’m not gonna take it anymore.

Careful, that has backfired on me before. Tread lightly, you may be expected to become supplicant to your boss’s boss.

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Laura Grace Robins January 16, 2011 at 08:40

“But 18 years of unemployment, living off the child support from her ex-husband to pay the bills, made her practically useless and unemployable.”

All I hear from feminists is that women should work so that when/if their husband leaves them, they will be able to carry on. Funny. The truth is it more likely women need to work so that when/if they leave their husbands, they will be able to carry on.

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Rebel January 16, 2011 at 10:14

@ DirkJohanson,

I was “caught”, or nearly, into a similar situation. The word “problem” was written all over the walls…

My solution was to make myself unattractive to the female in question: she soon lost interest in me and left me alone. (and thought I was an A-hole. Good!).

Another good solution I would suggest: work is work is work is work: NOTHING else. In other words, draw a solid line between your private and professional life.

Back at the office, they knew my name and that was about all they knew about me. I never, ever met any woman from the office… outside of the office. Absolutely water tight.

I’ve seen too many guys getting burnt: I can learn from observation.

Females at work are just that: females at work. Work drones, units of work, robots of some kind. Uninteresting at best. Lethal at worst.

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universe January 16, 2011 at 10:14

While Reed focuses his analogy to point out that the US is caught with it’s proverbial hand caught in a pot of foreign military occupations and insurmountable debt, I think this analogy is perfectly applicable to a lot more aspects of our modern day dystopia.
The proverbial feminist monkey has got it’s hand in the pot, grasping the entitlements and institutions it needs to exercise it’s influence but can’t let go as the demographic realities it engenders approach to consume it.

HL
– Fred Reed’s animal trap analogy applied to cornucopia governments involved in resource wastage also aptly describes feminism, as HL rightly points out.
While feminists merrily go about their fraudulent affairs, further draining the tax-coffer in a debt critical economy, something beneficial could still be attained.
These chauvinistic feminist sows, whose hands are collectively locked in the tax-payer cookie jar, and refusing to let go of it, will be publicly identified when the wailing and kicking begins. When the economy can no longer support these wilful fraudsters and they go about begging for relief, all men of gender enlightenment, seeking social justice, can simply walk away and refuse aid to a feminist of any stripe.
If ‘dirty thirty’ depression wafts over N.America that misappropriated concept of chivalry can overlook those publicly identified feminists who contributed much to social maligning and suffering.

Not a nice message to deliver in a still Christian culture. But, punishment first, forgiveness later. Their time is due.

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gender foreigner January 16, 2011 at 10:47

Dear All:

Great discussiion. As always, categorically, the female is the consumer and the male is the producer. “Affirmative Action” etc. have enabled consumers to take jobs so women can play office and men are disallowed to be office.

As soon as any jurisdiction decides to make consumption the driving force in society instead of production, it decides to waste away. Remember, rightly, in the 1800s, “consumption” was the name for a literal medical disease.

Women are always thinking of new ways to embrace rights for themselves while avoiding concomitant responsibilites: they can play with their toys but they don’t have to put them away.

Concurrently, men are made socially and economically unemployed resulting in women occupying but not embracing two roles: that of homemaker and that of economic producer. The Feminist-labeled, “double work day” for women is really the doubly half-ass occupation of roles that women do not intend to embrace.

And when men (and men in training, boys) decide to embrace the roles of homemaker or economic producer, they find themselves victims of Feminist programs punishing them from so doing.

It has been stated/observed, variously, that societies are rarely defeated, but rather they rot from within. Feminism in all its particulars only backs such a statement.

On the positive side, if we are to turn things around, we must recognize that the power to do so is within us. If we are to rise, we must turn course and categorically hate what we love, love what we hate, love love and hate hate. That is to say we must be ContraFeminists. We must be civilized. Consumption must be crowded out with production. Rights must be crowded out with responsibilities and to do so, men must crowd out women and boys must crowd out girls.

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Richard P-Man January 16, 2011 at 10:51

Nailed it.

In Africa, there is a tribe that traps monkeys by digging a hole in the side of a cliff – and putting something in the hole. A monkey will grab the something in the hole – and its fist then becomes too big to pull out of the hole.

The monkey lacks the intelligence to simply drop the something and remove its hand.

“The proverbial feminist monkey has got it’s hand in the pot, grasping the entitlements and institutions it needs to exercise it’s influence but can’t let go as the demographic realities it engenders approach to consume it.”

Too stupid to let go – or too greedy? Hmmm – I’d say both.

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Ubermind January 16, 2011 at 10:59

The natural order is God ->Man->Woman->Child

The moden man has abandoned God, accused it of all mischiefs in a world, where actually man participates in the creation along the Creator.

Now he wonders that this process has gone to the next step – the man has becomed the next on the bench of the accused. Women and childern are accusing men of all the worlds ills. Because God is already dead in most peoples minds it is time to find a new scapegoat.

The bottom of this hierarcy – children are diefied as saints today. They can do no wrong and all lies start with words -for the sake of children.

Until people realize this natural order nothing will change.

The natural order is God ->Man->Woman->Child

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gender foreigner January 16, 2011 at 11:06

Dear All:

So far, the discussion has been one which has an air of macroeconomics. One assumes that the archtypal Feminist jurisdiction being discussed is the whole picture. One must take into account that Feminist immigration programs (which typically are drawn from populations which are not Feminist archtypal) is an attempt, in part to make up for one of the fundamental inadequacies of the unsustainability of Feminism.

In order to turn such immigrants into good members of the Feminist Reich Folk (and gender quislings, aka, “manginas”), Feminist indoctrination for, “immigrant, ‘women and children’” are part and parcel of the recognition of the SELF-non-sustainability of Feminism. That is to say, Feminist socieities must be subsidized by masculinist/patriarchal societies with the concrete currency of warm bodies.

Such will only prolong the inevitable unsustainability of Feminist society as the trend toward increasing dependence (consumption) versus diminishing dependability (production) just continue in the same kind of pattern. Feminist immigrants require huge consumptive woman-make-”work” programs such as English-language training, Speech Pathologists in the women’s government schools, etc., and of course, lots of government grants for cultural sensitivity, etc.

Once the whole world is one great consumptive matriarchy, then global collapse will result with no Martians to make up for the Feminist dependency on immigation and the world will come to experience a global depression which far surpasses that of the 1930s. And as per the sustainability of that depression to come, in contrast to the 1930s one, the global Feminist depression will be met by populations which are not programmed to look for productive work but rather seek further consumptive rights, privileges and parasitisms.

In that set of circumstances of, “Do or die,” the productive must sequester themselves in an ark from the rest of the drowning world and make sure that no immigration except the patriarchal/productive type is allowed.

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Firepower January 16, 2011 at 11:07

Carnivore January 16, 2011 at 04:44

HL, you’ve brought the feminism topic to the table, something both the Tea Party and Libertarians won’t touch.

ahhh…blaming the Libertarians and Tea Party. Fit logic for these two all-powerful political parties that have ruled poor little America for the past century.

Still, a real Libertarian would say, that in this Day & Age, with the preponderance of evidence that his own friends, brothers and media provide on a hourly basis

… any fool who marries a broad, then knocks her up BEST pay for the whole sordid scene out of his OWN pocket. Or, gasp! Use a rubber. Get snipped and stfu.

It is NOT MY responsibility to pay for homie’s 29 babymomma.

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gender foreigner January 16, 2011 at 11:11

PS:

As per immigration to patriarchy, with great care and a transition in which immigrants of the Feminist type COULD be allowed, huge indoctrination into patriarchy and production might work but citizenship into such must involve perhaps even a 10-year waiting period in which such must prove themselves to be patriarchal.

Probably, the most indoctrinable would be the most likely for such, the youth. Boys and girls (and even babies to be adopted) could be brought in and trained by highly patriarchal/productive real families and private schools.

Yet another after thought.

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Joe January 16, 2011 at 11:16

Regarding office life in general, I recently talked to a guy who used to be in management but who got out because he didn’t have the patience for the endless nonsense. His female people would call him or HR for the usual reason people call HR, a tattle-tale power trip. Most of it was a couple of broads fighting each other. So and so called me a dooty-head, etc. I’ve noticed that there’s a pretty severe absence of genuinely senior level people in management. I wonder how much of this is because managing women and their endless bitchy pettiness is more trouble than it’s worth. I wouldn’t want to manage them, there are no behavior expectations and they will paint themselves as victims in any conflict.

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Fabron January 16, 2011 at 11:18

Like many others, I am a regular reader of columns by Fred Reed. In addition to his website, he also writes for the American Conservative magazine, the Washington Times, and Lew Rockwell’s libertarian site. Like many men who have actually experienced combat, Fred is strongly opposed to American military crusades and endless warfare.

Fred often writes about spoiled American women who don’t understand, or don’t want to understand, why American men find them unattractive.

Here’s the slogan for Fred Reed’s website:

“Without Men, Civilization Would Last Until The Oil Needed Changing.”

Fred often cites New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd as the perfect example of what’s wrong with American women. Here is a sample:

It is becoming a constant, like gravity: Maureen Dowd opens her mouth, and I get email from guys saying, “Fred! Geez, man, how much do apartments go for in Guadalajara?”

Maureen is the resentment columnist for the New York Times. She serves as newsprint megaphone for the angry, selfish, wretchedly unhappy career woman who can’t understand why she is living alone in an apartment with two cats. (I understand the alone part. I question the judgement of the cats.)

Here we have the eternal cry (at least it’s beginning to feel eternal) of the unhappy feminist: “The whole world can’t stand me. What’s wrong with the whole world?” If men don’t want to marry a self-absorbed menopausing ocelot, there is something wrong with men.

I highly recommend a visit to Fred Reed’s website. Here’s a column on Maureen Dowd:
http://www.fredoneverything.net/Dowd.shtml

And, here’s a column on American women and accountability:
http://fredoneverything.net/Accountability.shtml

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EconE January 16, 2011 at 11:24

A woman that sold her house 5 years before owning it free and clear would be a winner in my books.

Every woman I dated from 2005-2007 (the last year I dated) had either hit up the housing ATM with a cash out refi or had just purchased a condo with an OptionARM as it was “cheaper than renting”. Empowerment at it’s finest. Just wait until those mortgages start recasting in 2011-2013!

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JFP January 16, 2011 at 11:36

Meh, Fred Reed is indeed wise on many issues (my favorite being his hit piece on Susan Reimer) but IMHO long since gone native in Mexico when it comes to geo-politics.

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Joe January 16, 2011 at 11:40

This is my favorite fred column. I emailed it to an all-knowing feminist in my office a week or two ago. She responded with irrelevant cliches and platitudes.

http://www.fredoneverything.net/Reimer.shtml

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Robert January 16, 2011 at 12:06

OT; If anyone here remembers my posting regarding being falsely accused of indecent exposure to a minor and waving a gun at Sandi Delk, read this;

VANESSA DILE
Amarillo, TX
Reply »

I dont have any idea who this”victim”is. we have never been involved in any kind of sexual case…EVER!! thats why i am upset, also the fact that my son was only 10 at the time this post was made…why the hell is his name circulating on the internet? I searched google for my name and this page popped up. yes i know sandy delk and she was involved in a rape case but im not even sure why someone would put our names anywhere in this post, it has nothing to do with us what so ever!

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/nashville-tn/TRAT77B189Q92GA6R

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Robert January 16, 2011 at 12:08

She admits the accusation regarding the indecent exposure was a lie.

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tom47 January 16, 2011 at 12:13

@ DirkJohanson
Since you have an open and shut case of sexual harassment why not file charges. If the company won’t response file a lawsuit. The only reason this doesn’t work for us is that enough of us don’t do it. Maybe you can start a trend. Monkey see monkey do, right!

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Keyster January 16, 2011 at 12:13

Do the Republicans and Tea Party have the guts to say Medicaid/Medicare and Social Security need to be torn down and reformed? These entitlements that overwhelmingly benefit women, are the electric third rail of politics right now. Republicans don’t want to appear to be callous, and we already know how Democrats feel.

The bigger the rolls of Medicaid/Medicare and SS become the more indebt to China we become. And as long as the government pays for healthcare the more it seems to cost, funny how that works. The price of healthcare keeps rising (a female dominated industry) and no one asks why.

As my insurance guy said the way to predict rising costs is, as soon as a hospital is built near an existing one, the existing hospital will raise it’s prices to compensate for a decreased patient load. As long as the government funds healthcare, (and meddles in any free market system) there’s no competition. You bill the government whatever you want the price to be, and the government pays; everybody’s happy.

And don’t even get me started on female dominated Teacher’s Unions….

The day of reckoning is upon us. Who will we select to be the great leader willing to fall on his sword and convince us to let go of the food in the jar, before its too late and there’s total collapse of the system? Will single female voters (the largest Democrat Cun-STITUENCY), vote for austerity measures that effect them? Will they sacrifice for the “greater good” of all people, including men? Unfortunately these are rhetorical questions.

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tom47 January 16, 2011 at 12:18

@ DirkJohanson
“Porn Actor Sues For Sexual Harassment”
This could work for you on several levels.

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Herbal Essence January 16, 2011 at 12:28

Since the new year, I’ve seen all kinds of references to the “rise of women” in the GOP and how embracing women’s issues will be GOP’s path to joy in the future.

Men are damned on both sides.

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Robert January 16, 2011 at 12:32

Herbal Essence January 16, 2011 at 12:28
Since the new year, I’ve seen all kinds of references to the “rise of women” in the GOP and how embracing women’s issues will be GOP’s path to joy in the future.

Men are damned on both sides.

Only if men choose to remain so.

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Anti Idiocy January 16, 2011 at 12:54

We are SO fucked!

Then again…

There are many men, who realize this and hope to somehow improve our situation (and by “our” I mean the entire US society, if not the entire anglo-sphere, if not every economically developed society, if not every culture on the planet). Such intention is all well and good. Perhaps it’s that I’ve gotten a bit older (and somewhat wise? tired? cynical?), but it seems to me that too much time and energy is spent on the welfare of “us” and not enough on the welfare of “me.”

Developed nations, including the biggest debtor nation in history, are in a state of collapse. It’s phenomenally unlikely that humans will escape the coming correction without a great deal of suffering — those, who maintain that everything will be alright, are correct if by “alright” they mean there will probably be humans on the planet a century from now. Nevertheless, the current situation offers enormous benefits to men who avail themselves of the opportunities.

If you look even half way decent, dress a bit better than average for any given venue, and act like you’re content and reasonably well off, pussy is yours at the snap of a finger. If you continue with the academy after high school, study a real field like electrical engineering or computer science; don’t waste your time and money, like so many of those envied and all-too-numerous women in college, by getting degrees in the likes of sociology or history or any field whose name ends in the word “studies.” If you’re sick of school, quit when you can and learn a trade — auto mechanics, plumbing, general home maintenance will continue to be valuable skills whether or not the economy collapses, but especially if it does. And, not that I would ever recommend this, you just might be able to trade work with an expert in another craft without paying taxes.

Criminy, guys. These may be the worst of times, but in many ways they are the best of times. Keep up the good fight, but focus on the good too. The opportunities today are enormous.

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KARMA MRA MGTOW January 16, 2011 at 13:00

Eat, Pray, Love HA! I saw a women reading this snake oil on the beach on Saturday.

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TFH January 16, 2011 at 13:03

By the way, much thanks to “Puma” for putting the Wedded Abyss site back up!

Seconded and thirded. That is a great website, and I have linked to it many times, and even posted physical flyers directing people to Wedded Abyss.

If you know any young man getting married, you owe it to him to at least send him the Wedded Abyss URL.

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TFH January 16, 2011 at 13:22

Do the Republicans and Tea Party have the guts to say Medicaid/Medicare and Social Security need to be torn down and reformed?

No, they do not. Read why here :
http://www.singularity2050.com/2010/11/why-republicans-will-not-shrink-government.html

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Firepower January 16, 2011 at 15:40

TFH January 16, 2011 at 13:22

Do the Republicans and Tea Party have the guts to say Medicaid/Medicare and Social Security need to be torn down and reformed?

No, they do not. Read why here :

aha – already denigrating a political party that’s only been around for approximately 2 years.

Bet that means you really can show some links on how you brought down The Thunder on those pesky Democrats and their 150 year reign.

Nah, you is right. It’s the Tea Party’s fault.

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TFH January 16, 2011 at 15:55

If you read my link, it shows that I am pretty heavily against Democrats (rating them a 1 out of 10), while rating the Republcians a 4 out of 10.

People of minimal intelligence have no problem interpreting this as the reality that both parties are bad, with the Democrats being the worse of the two.

The Tea Party will go nowhere unless it can confront feminism, since 70-80% of all government spending is a transfer from men to women.

If it really can confront feminism, then reform will be possible. But this is unlikely since the Tea Party is over 50% female.

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tom47 January 16, 2011 at 16:45

A national sales tax in place of the income tax would be boon to men. Since women supposedly spend 80% of all income they would pay 80% of the tax. It would make income redistribution way harder. There’s a reasonable amount of support for it already.

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Beltain January 16, 2011 at 17:00

Good article, lots of good comments.

I agree the repubs and tea party will never go against feminism. Even the more level headed “conservative” female leaders of each buy into the feminist doctrine too much to ever change or allow either group to attack the real issues.

The only use either the tea party or the new repubs have been or will be is to send men down the first steps of the path towards reclaiming their rightful place. Once they open their eyes to the feminist backed left I think we will see them finally begin to connect the dots and some women will go with them. I have already seen some very vocal women denouncing feminism in a much higher number than ever before.

Where the men go the real women will follow in ever increasing numbers.

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greyghost January 16, 2011 at 17:39

I agree the repubs and tea party will never go against feminism. Even the more level headed “conservative” female leaders of each buy into the feminist doctrine too much to ever change or allow either group to attack the real issues.

You know this maybe blissful ignorance. Just as black culture is made into irrational hell by femminism the problems are seen as racism. The foolish conservatives see the problems of femminism as something caused by socialist liberalism. One cannot under estimate the power of ignorance. (sounds crazy doesn’t it?)

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zed January 16, 2011 at 18:44

“But, the emperor has no clothes!”

“Yes, but the procession has started, so it must continue.”

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gender foreigner January 16, 2011 at 18:55

Dear tom47:

Great idea: I wished I had thought of that.

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Keyster January 16, 2011 at 19:53

We’re starting to see a shift back to basics.
The best people for the job are slowly replacing the tokens.
Pelosi, Michael Steele (chairman of Republican party) and soon Mr. Obama.
So much “white sexist guilt” was relieved by having the first female speaker of the house, first black president (his inexperience ignored), first black party chair (so republicans don’t appear racist). Oh the glorious diversity! The rising up of the oppressed to positions of power! History being made!
See world, we are a diversity loving nation!

Can we now get back to simply placing the best people in the most important positions, regardless of sex or race (to make everyone feel better)? Have we finally got this “white male power base” guilt trip out of our collective systems once and for all? Are we even yet? Or do we need to keep placing the right “faces” in visible positions a little while longer, assuming they can at least fog a mirror?

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TFH January 16, 2011 at 20:02

Dirk,

and what I mean by that is go for her head. I already called her bosses’ boss, who hates her.

This is the key.

Start documenting her restrictions on you.

After that, start shrewdly bait her into getting more and more unreasonable with her restrictions on you. Do this by :
i) Have a small photo of you with a much younger, more attractive woman on your desk.
ii) Start dressing in a bit more peacocky (while still professional) way at work. Nice watches, flashier shirts, sexy sunglasses as you head out to lunch, etc.
iii) Talk about ‘how a good friend of yours just had a baby’, and then say how you hope to have one of your own soon. Since she is well-past her reproductive age, she will flip out and do something that hangs herself.

Get about 3 months of documentation going from all this, and then show it to her boss/bosses boss.

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TFH January 16, 2011 at 20:05

Can we now get back to simply placing the best people in the most important positions, regardless of sex or race (to make everyone feel better)?

Unfortunately, no.

The Democratic Party’s core value is political correctness.
The GOP’s core value is whiteknighting/chivalry.

The Tea Party is a reaction to the visceral sense that something bad is about to happen, but they still cannot come to terms with the fact that there is no reduction in government spending without a massive confrontation of feminism. Absurdities that are accepted as normal due to government spending (single motherhood, alimony, VAWA, child support), have to be confronted as the abominations they are.

At the moment, the Tea Party is not there yet.

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Nemo January 16, 2011 at 20:26

The US is already past the point of no return.

Our bastardy rate is about 41%, and is on track to exceed 50% in 15 years, if not sooner.

Soon it will be abnormal for a new father to be the husband of the mother.

It’s already abnormal for the father to stay married long enough to see his first child graduate high school. Heck, most marriages don’t last until the kid enrolls in kindergarten.

Not surprisingly, graduation rates for boys are now lower than they have been since high schools became commonplace in the US in the early 20th century. It’s almost enough to make you think that fathers are actually necessary …

Even if we stopped our immediate decline – if we froze the bastardy rate at 41%, balanced the budget, stabilized all other negative trends at the status quo – we’d still be doomed because this huge demographic of damaged children is destined to be the next generation.

In reality, the rate of decline will not only continue but accelerate. The “negative compound interest” of feminism’s drain on society will make each year even worse a even faster than before. Think the national debt, but with “social capital” and “human capital” instead of dollars.

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Simon January 16, 2011 at 20:53

Can we now get back to simply placing the best people in the most important positions, regardless of sex or race (to make everyone feel better)? Have we finally got this “white male power base” guilt trip out of our collective systems once and for all? Are we even yet? Or do we need to keep placing the right “faces” in visible positions a little while longer, assuming they can at least fog a mirror?

As a black man I’m all for that. I work with people who are were they are because of “who” they are and not what they are qualified for and its frustrating. I know for a fact I beat out every contender for my job, I saw their work and it was god awful. But the some of the people above me are barely qualified to operate a toothbrush much less manage a department. Let the best man win, we’ll all be better off. And trust me, I put in enough work to always try to be the best man.

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gender foreigner January 16, 2011 at 21:09

Dear Simon:

Thanks for your encouraging note.

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Pankaj January 17, 2011 at 02:30

No Tom47,

“A national sales tax in place of the income tax ”
would be a very bad thing. Because eventually you will get tariffs + income tax + national sales tax.

FYI, this is exactly how you got the income tax.. just look at the history of taxation. People went about proposing an income tax in place of the tariffs. They even accomplished it, but the first time the government needed “Mo!” they just re instituted the tariffs back on. i.e. you get screwed the old way + the new way.

Also, most money that women spend is earned by men, and so will be the sales taxes.

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thehermit January 17, 2011 at 03:46

Now, you might well wonder, why are American women carrying the Chip? Practically, it doesn’t matter: They do carry it, and will continue. Still, it is partly because from birth they are fed the notion that they have been oppressed, battered, cheated, deprived, harassed, used as sex objects, not used as sex objects, on and on. Being rational, you are perhaps inclined to point out that never has a female population been less any of these things, but don’t bother. It will have no effect. The Chip is an emotional artifact to which they respond emotionally.

Brilliant

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Augenblick January 17, 2011 at 03:54

One-Year-Old Boy Drowns in Bathtub As Mother Plays Games on Facebook

http://www.switched.com/2011/01/14/shannon-johnson-playing-facebook-game-child-drowned-cafe-world/

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Augenblick January 17, 2011 at 03:56

When investigators asked Johnson why she would leave a 13-month old unattended in the bath, she replied that her son was preternaturally independent, and simply wanted to be alone. An arrest affidavit obtained by KMGH Denver also quotes Johnson as saying that she didn’t want her son to grow up to be a “mamma’s boy”– which, presumably, is why she decided to let him bathe himself. Johnson is due to appear in court on Friday, where she could face a charge of child abuse resulting in death.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) January 17, 2011 at 04:09

Thomas Jefferson on Tyranny

http://www.peternolan.com/Forums/tabid/420/forumid/56/threadid/683/scope/posts/Default.aspx

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.

To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

Actually, mostly they use a cage like a bamboo cage and the monkey can slip his hands through the cage but can not bring his hand back out with a bananna in it. I heard about this in 1988 when I was suffering badly from stress. I went to a ‘stress management course for professionals’ and this story was one of the stories told. I have told hundreds of men this story since. It’s easy. Drop the bananna. There are more banannas out there.

By the way. If you look at the Ukraine you see where divorce gets the women. Pretty much every woman meet from Russia/Ukraine in Germany is ‘sending money home for mum’. I am told the ‘guvment pension’ for a ‘retired woman’ in the Ukraine is EUR40/month. Not much. Where feminism gets the women is working to pay for their divorced mothers if they will even do that. And you can imagine the guilt trips these women lay on their daughters to get them to pay for their mothers, right!

Women are, today, gorging themselves on the taxes of the productive men. It’s going to stop. I recommend men stop paying taxes so that this practice stops sooner in a more controlled manner rather than late in a more catastophic manner. But it WILL stop. Because in the end there will be total economic collapse if it does not stop in a controlled manner.

Laura Grace Robins January 16, 2011 at 08:40
“All I hear from feminists is that women should work so that when/if their husband leaves them, they will be able to carry on. Funny.”

Laura. My then wife quit work in 1994 after our second child was born. I had worked very hard to help her get through uni for which you can read I wrote all her programming assignments and paid her fees and paid for the baby sitting for her children and babysat them myself. I helped her into her job at IBM and I advised her how to ‘do well’ every step of the way.

For years and years her salary was not enough to cover the costs of her and her children so I was effectively subsidising her in the early years of her ‘career’. A subsidisation that I expected the family to recoup in later years. And I mean there were MANY days that I had nothing to eat but buscuits from the IBM biscuit tin along with copious amounts of coffee!! LOL!! My mates didn’t mind since they knew I was flat out broke and couldn’t even afford to eat some days. When I told one of my colleagues from the 80s what my ex did he was STAGGERED. He was “after all you did for that woman? I saw you trying to juggle credit cards to put food on the table for her children! She treats you like this!?”

In divorce? Surprise, surprise she had to get a ‘job’. This despite the fact that when we were ‘amiciable’ I offered her a job in my company and offered to teach her my skills and offered to be friendly to her so that she could support herself. I offered to sell her time and then make up any skill gap she had and cover it for the client…..in a year or two she would have been on about EUR80K as pretty much guaranteed if she had decided to be my ‘off-sider’ in my business. It was reported in court documents she now earns EUR36K in Dublin. She is going to starve on that. And I shall take all the money she got from the house back off her.

She also EXPLODED in size and aged 10 years in 2 in the face. The last time I saw her she looked TERRIBLE. GOOD! All the bloody nuisance she has caused.

I see this quite often with divorced women in the workplace. They are in their 40s and 50s and they are doing something like ‘generating reports’ because that’s all they can do. They also dress like hookers and talk about how ‘empowered’ they are.

Go into ANY large corporate in the UK and you can see a LOT of these ‘empowered’ women doing the most menial of tasks dressed like hookers. I’m not kidding you. And us men? If we so much as ask a woman to ‘please do up your shirt because I am at work and I would very much prefer you to not be showing your breasts to me’ we would be immediately guilty of ‘sexual harassment’. I would very much prefer not to be presented with the breasts of a 40-50 year old woman when I am working. But I am subject to that regularly in the UK. The indian women are horrified when they see this sort of blatant sexual displays in the UK.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) January 17, 2011 at 04:20

Augenblick January 17, 2011 at 03:54

An arrest affidavit obtained by KMGH Denver also quotes Johnson as saying that she didn’t want her son to grow up to be a “mamma’s boy”

Well. She certinly solved THAT problem didn’t she. Well done mum! I see a LOT of news stories of single mothers and dead boys.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) January 17, 2011 at 04:25

OT. I guess me and Ted are just conspiracy nutters eh HL? Then again. I guess genocide is something that should never really be OT.

http://aircrap.org/former-fbi-chief-ted-gunderson-says-chemtrail-death-dumps-must-be-stopped/33301/

Former FBI Chief Ted Gunderson Says Chemtrail Death Dumps Must Be Stopped
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR6KVYJ73AU
Former FBI Chief, Ted L. Gunderson, makes a statement regarding the chemtrail “death dumps”, otherwise know as air crap, on January 12, 2011. Ted says the following,

“The death dumps, otherwise known as chemical trails, are being dropped and sprayed throughout the United States and England, Scotland, Ireland, and Northern Europe. I have personally seen them not only in the United States, but in Mexico and in Canada. Birds are dying around the world. Fish are dying by the hundreds of thousands around the world. This is genocide. This is poison. This is murder by the United Nations. This element within our society that is doing this must be stopped. I happen to know of two of the locations where the airplanes are that dump this crap on us. Four of the planes are out of the Air National Guard in Lincoln, Nebraska. And, the other planes are out of Fort Sill, Oklahoma. I personally have observed the planes that were standing still in Nebraska – Lincoln, Nebraska – at the Air National Guard. They have no markings on them. They are huge, bomber-like airplanes with no markings. This is a crime: a crime against humanity, a crime against America, a crime against the citizens of this great country. The must be stopped. WHAT IS WRONG WITH CONGRESS? This has an affect on their population, and their people, and their friends, and their relatives, and themselves. What’s wrong with them? What’s wrong with the pilots who are flying these airplanes and dumping this crap, this poison, on their own families? Somebody has to do something about it. Somebody in Congress has to step forward and stop it now. Thank you. I’m Ted Gunderson.”

For more details, visit http://www.aircrap.org.

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Opus January 17, 2011 at 04:33

I can confirm what Peter Andrew: Nolan (c) says in his last above paragraph.

This is what happened to me : I was for the third and I swear last time in my life working in the same room as a female. It was the time of a certain fashion in skirts; they were long and split up the sides, so that as the woman walked the opening and closing of the skirt would reveal, momentarily, the entire leg. At a distance, on a young woman, that might be attractive, however close up it is most off-putting especially when the woman is someone I would not do ‘with yours’ as the saying has it – she was only a four at best and I had a very cute girlfriend. Anyway, as she sat down, the skirt of course came apart. My eye, and this is quite unconscious on my part – taking notice of any unusual event of its own volition – glanced in the direction of the leg with the skirt split up to her pussy. She was the one who chose to dress like a motorway whore, not me, yet she then accused me of looking improperly. The vanity of it! I regret that I did not have the presence of mind to tell her exactly what I thought.

You might therefore think that ignoring a woman in the same office would solve the problem, but no, the second time I worked in the same office as a woman this is what happened: I went to get some coffee and returned to my desk. She complained that I had not had the decency to ask if she wanted coffee – (I am neither her servant nor employed to attend on her). Of course, had I asked, and asked every time I went to get coffee (far too frequently) I would then lay myself open to the charge of harrasement (‘he’s so creepy he keeps pestering me’, you can hear her say). Again you can see everything is about her.

Men and women cannot be friends because sex always gets in the way, and by the same token they should not work together. By the way I have noticed that these problems have only started within the last twenty years, and when I was younger and with more raging hormones it did not happen then. I can only conclude that this is a newly developing mass female hysteria.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) January 17, 2011 at 06:57

Opus January 17, 2011 at 04:33
“when I was younger and with more raging hormones it did not happen then. I can only conclude that this is a newly developing mass female hysteria.”

Indeed. I can confirm this too. When I first started work in 1982 women were dressed conservatively. Similarly to the men. The whole ‘tits hanging out like a whore’ simply never happened to my knowledge. Further. There were VERY FEW women in the workplace. We had one teacher at school who came ‘dressed like whore’ one day and she was dressed conservatively the very next day.

The FIRST case I saw of this was a female colleague who was worse than useless in 1986. She used to waste everyones time by talking to us men when many of us were working 9am – midnight for about 8 months straight. She was one of the ‘quota females’ that we so disliked because we only had so many headcount to get projects done and we were forced to carry totally useless women as part of that headcount when we really could have done with men who would do their job. The day she was having her ‘performance review’ she wore the ‘killer red dress’. She was canadian which is ahead of OZ in the societal destruction by the femnazis and this might have had something to do with it.

My manager had his toungue hanging to the desk as he drooled over her ‘tits hanging out’. Glass offices. He gave her a 2 out of 5 with 1 being good based mostly on the ‘tits hanging out’ in her review. She should have gotten a 6 and been kicked out. I later told him that in one hour he had managed to lose the respect of every man who worked for him without even talking to them. Something of a feat. I was always one to tell people ‘like it is’ and not back away from the facts. He was really, really upset with himself for having done that. He knew he had done it the instant I said it. The dumb woman had BRAGGED to everyone about her ‘grade’ rather than keep it quiet. She was THAT dumb. But by then there was no way back for my manager. He had trashed himself in front of those of us who worked hard and did a good job and he had lost our respect…Never to get it back.

There is nothing so ‘sexist and discriminatory’ as a woman doing the ‘street whore’ thing to get a better performance review in the office to get more money unfairly and not based on work performance. I thought at the time the OTHER women were stupid not to scratch her eyes out on the spot. She did THEIR credibility no good either.

The fact that almost NO WOMEN have spoken out about the crimes and bad behaviour of women for the last 30 years has destroyed ALL womens credibility that they just want ‘a fair go’ and for everyone to be working to the same rules. It will not happen for GENERATIONS that women will be able to earn back their credibility. Generations. Dumb as monkeys might be a very appropriate analogy. Women have idea what respect is. They have no idea what ‘earn your stripes’ means.

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Opus January 17, 2011 at 07:09

Which reminds me, when I was a young law student, one of our lectrurers was female and in her early twenties. In those days women wore mini-skirts as indeed did this particular lecturer. The desk was raised above the level of the floor and she would sit, in her mini-skirt, on the desk, wth all her thighs exposed (out of a lecture room of forty all but four were men). Sexual harrasement or what!

Not that anyone complained, although the lecturer might have if she knew what we called her, for although she had a pretty face, those thighs were way-too-big. Only a woman would fail to be embarrased about her body and show it off when common decency and an awareness of her grossness would have advised her against a mini-skirt!

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Carnivore January 17, 2011 at 07:18

Pretty much ditto what Mr. Nolan says above which matches my experience entering the engineering world in the US about the same time. When I started, there were very very few women engineers. In fact, the first office building I was in, which had been built in the 1950′s had larger men’s restrooms because the only females were secretaries; most of the employees were male.

That’s also the problem with the equalist idea of hiring a person only based on qualifications and ignoring sex. First, women will use their sexual power to get ahead. Secondly, because of the male aptitude for most serious professions, there will always be fewer women resulting in women organizing to grab more and change the “unfairness” of it. Too bad, nature isn’t fair. And finally, an operation can’t run efficiently based on the whims of women. A woman decides she wants a career – then displaces a man in the co-ed university; she displaces a man when she’s hired and assuming she’s competent at her job (a big assumption), they lose a valuable employee when she decides to have a child. Worse yet, the company will have to spend money to support the woman due to the equal opportunity, paid leave, etc. regulations.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) January 17, 2011 at 07:28

Talking of “dumb as monkeys” and women in the workplace? I recall two incidents that are great demonstrations of this.

In 1986 two canadian women came to Sydney to transfer skills to our project. One was wider than she was high. I took them to the canteen for lunch. This woman proceeded to put more food onto her plate than I could have even contemplated eating at my hungriest after a big game of football. I was amazed. We sat to eat. She says to me “I have no idea why I keep putting on weight because I drink Tabs(a popular diet drink then).” I was just amazed she could sit there in complete denial as to the amount of food she was eating. I brushed it of as ‘one crazy woman’. Today? This is commonplace. BBWs.

Later…in 93 when my wife was heavily pregnant with our second child and had to pick up our first child from the creche at IBM at 5pm sharp? A woman was running a meeting that my wife attended. She was yet another ‘token woman executive’ who thought ‘being like a man’ was the same as being a complete arsehole. She did not make allowances for my wifes much needed bathroom breaks. So my wife had to insist on being excused a number of times in the ‘all afternoon meeting’. ALL MEN are considerate and understanding of this normal and natural physical condition. ALL men will schedule more breaks so as not to put a heavily pregnant woman to the embarassment to have to break in and ask. Every time this has happened in meetings I have been running I have taken the woman aside and told her I will schedule more breaks and also told her to signal me if she needs a break and I will break the meeting without saying why. Heavily pregnant women have told me they appreciate my consideration.

Further? This woman ALSO denigrated my then wife when she informed her that she simply had to leave to pick up our child from the creche and that staying longer was simply not possible. When I got home she talked to me and was crying over the whole incident as she felt humiliated. She felt she was doing the best she could despite being heavily pregnant. I was suitably furious. Being a beta mangina husband and all.

If the person was a man I would have confronted him and all would have agreed. Because it was a ‘token woman executive’ my wife ALSO asked me to ‘drop it’ despite my preparedness to take this completely unacceptable behaviour up with this womans manager (who happened to be well known to me). Women did themselves no favours by always voting for ‘team woman’ and not supporting ‘what is right’ no matter the sex of the person. And yes. Over the last 20 years behaviour of women in the workplace has become one step away from lunacy. In the UK in the financial area of London many men simply refuse to get into a lift with a woman if it will only be the two of them in the lift. In the UK I refuse to be alone with a woman in a meeting room or office unless she is non-western. I simply excuse myself and leave. Many women see this as a ‘victory’ for ‘scaring’ the men.

“Where are all the good men?” Doing their best to avoid false rape and sexual harassment allegations.

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Opus January 17, 2011 at 07:58

All very true Peter Nolan, which reminds me that (even than ) as a very young lawyer I was advised NEVER to go to the home of a female client unattended by another person (that is to say another woman), because single women even then had the reputation of being crazy and making things up. I have endeavoured to keep to that rule.

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Charles Martel January 17, 2011 at 08:16

@GM

Go into ANY large corporate in the UK and you can see a LOT of these ‘empowered’ women doing the most menial of tasks dressed like hookers. I’m not kidding you. And us men? If we so much as ask a woman to ‘please do up your shirt because I am at work and I would very much prefer you to not be showing your breasts to me’ we would be immediately guilty of ‘sexual harassment’. I would very much prefer not to be presented with the breasts of a 40-50 year old woman when I am working.

I detest this also. But when the Chancellor of Germany does it, what can you do? This picture was taken in the Bundestag, if I’m not mistaken.

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Opus January 17, 2011 at 08:25

Charles Martel: I think you will find that that foto of La Merkal was taken at the Opera – not that that is any excuse!

Nolan is also right to emphasise that it is not only the young ones. My own experience is that the older they get, – far from accepting their natural position as Matrons, – they act as if they are Hot and as if you are interested in them. How exactly does one politely explain to an over-weight fifty-five year old that if you were interested in making advances to anyone that person would surely be slimmer, prettier and on the under side of thirty – that is without making them break into tears – no don’t tell me, that itself would be a form of harrasement!

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Charles Martel January 17, 2011 at 08:31

Former FBI Chief Ted Gunderson Says Chemtrail Death Dumps Must Be Stopped

Alright, Peter, tell me why I should give this any credence?

I’ve looked at dozens of pictures of so-called “Chemtrails” and all I’ve ever seen is Contrails.

Con-trails (condensation trails) are produced in two ways by high flying jet aircraft. 1. The combustion products from a turbofan or turbojet engine are primarily carbon dioxide and water. So, a jet engine produces a plume of water vapor and under certain conditions this water vapor condenses into a highly visible, long lasting white trail. 2. The wingtips shed trailing vortices with a low pressure core. This change in air pressure in the trailing vortex can cause water vapor already in the air to condense and become visible.

I’ve always put this crazy chemtrail idea down to the pathetically low scientific literacy of the US population and the fact that “chemtrail” sounds a lot like “contrail.”

So, am I wrong? You’re a smart guy and I’m willing to listen. What are chemtrails? What is their purpose? What is to be gained by indiscriminate high altitude spraying of (whatever)?

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Charles Martel January 17, 2011 at 08:49

@Opus

Charles Martel: I think you will find that that foto of La Merkal was taken at the Opera – not that that is any excuse!

OK, according to Der Spiegel, “The dress in question was a long black dress with a blue bolero shawl. Merkel wore it Saturday evening when she joined King Harald V and Queen Sonja of Norway for the opening celebrations of Oslo’s new €530 million ($840 million) Opera House.

So, she dressed like this to attend a state event in Norway where I assume she was representing Germany.

From the Der Speigel article: “”The chancellor was a bit surprised that this evening dress caused such a splash” Thomas Steg, the government’s deputy spokesman, told reporters Monday……Steg also expressed his hope that the Norwegian royal family did not feel one-upped by Merkel’s dress, which admittedly “drew a lot of attention.”

Merkel appears to have confused her political power, conferred by Germany’s voters (high), with her sexual power (low).

Still, I’m sure Norwegian Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg enjoyed sharing the stage with Chancellor Merkel. Look at the poor guy’s eyes. He’s staring over the top of her head so there’s no chance the world’s press will catch him eyeballing her tits.

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Firepower January 17, 2011 at 08:59

TFH January 16, 2011 at 15:55

The Tea Party will go nowhere unless it can confront feminism, since 70-80% of all government spending is a transfer from men to women.

If it really can confront feminism, then reform will be possible. But this is unlikely since the Tea Party is over 50% female

I suppose after blaming the USA’s only two parties, you’ll need an additional 3rd party to scapegoat for defeat. But, “confront feminism” is a great slogan.

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W.F. Price January 17, 2011 at 08:59

I’ve always put this crazy chemtrail idea down to the pathetically low scientific literacy of the US population and the fact that “chemtrail” sounds a lot like “contrail.”

-CM

Could be some truth to that, at least as far as the etymology is concerned, but the idea probably arose from the widespread spraying programs that started as mosquito control in the fever swamps of the south.

Many of these ideas have some basis in reality. For example, the black helicopters of the 90s really did exist. They were DEA or BATF in many cases, looking for illegal pot crops. I’ve seen them myself, and they are both black and unmarked. Once, while driving along a dirt road in Skagit county, one of them swooped down and there was a guy sitting in the side door manning a machine gun. That’s definitely enough to engender paranoia in rural folk.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) January 17, 2011 at 08:59

Charles Martel January 17, 2011 at 08:49

LOL!…Yes. I was in Germany when this happened. The opinions I heard were very clear. The men were of the mind “WTF? She is very close to the UGLIEST woman in Germany, please put your tits away, no-one wants to look at them.”

The women were “See how empowered she is!! She can wear what she likes on the world stage and express her woman hood.”

Dumb…..as…..monkeys.

Oh…by the way. I was at the hair dresser the other day and Angela Merkel was on the front cover of the local readers digest. Nothing spectacular in that. Except she was doing her favourite little Illuminati Hand Signal of the inverted pyramid with her hands. The same one Jay-Zee likes to use. But I guess that’s just a co-incidence. Maybe she likes Jay-Zee as well as having her tits hanging out all over the place.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) January 17, 2011 at 09:18

Charles Martel January 17, 2011 at 08:31
“Alright, Peter, tell me why I should give this any credence?”

Charles. This is OT…But…Um…because it is true? Might that not be a good reason to give something credence?

I would recommend you do some research. Here is a tip. LOOK UP! There you go. Over ANY major western city on ANY clear day you will see chemtrails. A con-trail is frozen water and lasts just a few minutes. They are SHORT. There are SO MANY books and videos out on the web now that anyone who is in denial of the spraying is just being willfully ignorant. I was watching a vid recently where a chemist measured the amount of aluminium in the freshly fallen snow on mount shasta in california. It rated 66 times the upper limit for safe human consumption. This can NOT come from pollution. It HAS to come from the snow falling through the atmosphere or it has to be something FALLING ON TOP OF THE SNOW IN HIGH CONCENTRATIONS.

The chemtrails contain aluminium and barium among other things. Barium is a heavy metal. Not good. Monsanto has recently announced ‘aluminium resistant seeds’ that will grow in soil with high concentrations of aluminium. But these seeds will only grow with Monsanto fertilisers. Hhhhmmmmm.

Charles. Really. Anyone denying chemtrails is willfully ignorant. Just remember. There are PLENTY of men who deny that the family courts are biased towards women or that there is any problem at all with 40% of children being born out of wedlock. They are just as ignorant. They too say ‘prove to me that the family courts are biased’ like it is my job to educate them. If you do show them some cases they say “its a one off or rare”. If you do give them a link to a book like Stephen Baskervilles book “Taken Into Custody” they say “I haven’t got the time to read a whole book but you still haven’t proven to me the courts are biased”. My answer to THOSE men is “Yeah, whatever, f*** off and die.”

The chemtrails are the second most visible piece of evidence of the coming ‘New World Order’ behind THE INTERNATIONAL MONEY SYSTEM. I mean. They are spraying us like bugs. And the evidence is ALL OVER THE WORLD. Still people deny it. They have a good argument calling people ‘useless eaters’. I can’t find the fault in it. No wonder so many join the ‘in crowd’ when offered the opportunity. I often wonder what would have become of me if I took they job they offered me.

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zed January 17, 2011 at 09:21

He’s staring over the top of her head so there’s no chance the world’s press will catch him eyeballing her tits.

But, just to make sure no man escaped seeing them, she bends over and really puts those puppies on show.

It reminds me of a story, I think it was about Winston Churchill was rather well known for speaking his mind. At a dinner party with a matron dressed like the chancellor, he remarked something to the effect of “Since you are so proud of those babies, pop one out and let us have a real look at them.”

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Keyster January 17, 2011 at 09:23

“In reality, the rate of decline will not only continue but accelerate. The “negative compound interest” of feminism’s drain on society will make each year even worse a even faster than before. Think the national debt, but with “social capital” and “human capital” instead of dollars.”

The Tea Party is fighting against feminism. They’ll obviously never come right out and say it, and most aren’t even conscious of it, but they’re against it fiscally and perhaps even socially.

How many women’s groups support the Tea Party?
That’s your answer.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) January 17, 2011 at 09:32

Charles Martel January 17, 2011 at 08:31
What are chemtrails?

A mixture of Aluminium and Barium usually with some chemists reporting a wide variety of other chemicals depending on the day and location.

What is their purpose?

In US TEXTBOOKS being used in schools today the claim is that they are global weather engineering tactics. Yes. You read that correctly. If you pick up a TEXTBOOK for a school in the US you will see chemtrails DOCUMENTED as wether engineering. But you go right on ahead denying they exist. ok? They are part of the depopulation program just like feminism and abortion are.

What is to be gained by indiscriminate high altitude spraying of (whatever)?
Indiscriminate? Are you kidding me? They are spraying exactly where they want to…OVER LARGE POPULATION CENTERS. What is to be gained? Increasing disease and death among the population being sprayed. By putting high levels of Aluminium into the top soil many varieties of naturally occuring crops will NO LONGER BE ABLE TO GROW AT PRIOR RATES. So Monsanto gets to control all food production. Gee. I wonder what THAT could be about? Try googling George Guidestones. You will read ‘Maintain the global population at 500M people’…..hhhmmmmm.

The people who claim they OWN this planet claim there are TOO MANY PEOPLE ON IT. And they are doing something about it. There is so much evidence of a running depopulation program you actually have to work pretty hard to ignore it. 2.2 BILLION abortions still does not seem to wake anyone up to the fact there is a depopulation program running.

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zed January 17, 2011 at 09:35

The fact that almost NO WOMEN have spoken out about the crimes and bad behaviour of women for the last 30 years has destroyed ALL womens credibility that they just want ‘a fair go’ and for everyone to be working to the same rules.

It’s not just that. If all we were dealing with women’s silence, that could be forgiven. It is the fact that any man who dared speak out was immediately attacked by every woman in his vicinity, either with the weak “NAWALT” game, or with something out of the catalog of anti-male shaming tactics.

The vast majority of women have colluded with the feminists to advance the cause of “generic woman”, and stonewall any man’s efforts to even bring up the problem. It is clear that they are all playing for “team woman” and regard all men as the enemy of their team.

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Carnivore January 17, 2011 at 09:41

zed writes:

But, just to make sure no man escaped seeing them, she bends over and really puts those puppies on show.

HaHaHa. Sorta reminds me of that Loren/Mansfield photo:
http://www.cinemaretro.com/index.php?/archives/3211-BOSOM-BUDDIES-NOT!-WHEN-SOPHIA-LOREN-MET-JAYNE-MANSFIELD.html

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) January 17, 2011 at 09:42

Yes..this woman thinks men want to see her breasts…LOL!!
http://www.jaunted.com/files/admin/merkel.jpg

Um…was the title of this blog something like ‘monkey see monkey do’?

Or try this one…do NOT click if you have a squeemish stomach!

http://www.thevancouverite.com/pictures/futurecarolejamesad.gif

Or this..
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/ffximage/2008/04/16/470merkel,0.jpg

Um? Do I need any more evidence that women who would be well advised to not try the ‘tits hanging out’ option still do it? Even when they are the chancellor of a country with 80M people in it and supposed to be ‘smart’?

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) January 17, 2011 at 09:44

screaming…..with…..laughter….

You have to love ‘der spiegel’.

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,903063,00.jpg

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Carnivore January 17, 2011 at 09:48

Fixed linked.

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Firepower January 17, 2011 at 09:49

zed

The vast majority of women have colluded with the feminists to advance the cause of “generic woman”, and stonewall any man’s efforts to even bring up the problem. It is clear that they are all playing for “team woman” and regard all men as the enemy of their team

Dude, what planet are you on.

Bill Clinton is their enemy? Al Gore? Joe Biden? Paul Krugman? Spielberg? President Barack Obama?

Men are amongst feminists greatest allies – this alliance is what makes them all dangerous.

Your wild, inaccurate statements do great disservice to this movement with their easily discreditable tone.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) January 17, 2011 at 09:52

Hmmm….she looks so successful. I am sure many german women want to ‘be like her, eh?’

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/08ffaT9fW86tB/x610.jpg?SSImageQuality=Full
From Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Merkel

“she became Minister for Women and Youth in Helmut Kohl’s 3rd cabinet.”
“In 1977, Angela Kasner married physics student Ulrich Merkel. The marriage ended in divorce in 1982.[45] Her second and current husband is quantum chemist and professor Joachim Sauer, who has largely remained out of the media spotlight. They first met in 1981,[46] came together later, but married privately only on 30 December 1998.[47] She has no children”

Well…a LOT of german women are EXACTLY like her. 30% of adult german women no less. ‘No children divorcee!’ LOL!! Wow..that is ssssooooo ‘successful’. Breeding her genes out of the gene pool.

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Carnivore January 17, 2011 at 09:54

Last try.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) January 17, 2011 at 10:00
Szebran January 17, 2011 at 10:23

“it showed a time lapse progression of a young girl’s life – from high school, to college, to a career as a doctor, to a mid-30?s bride followed by the 1.5 children and the white picket fence house, with the narrator talking about how this bank is WITH YOU AT EVERY STAGE OF YOUR LIFE.”

They might as well forget about the bride / 1.5 children part. Marriage is on its way out as an instituition. Feminism has made marriage a bad choice for men.

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Keoni Galt January 17, 2011 at 10:34

They might as well forget about the bride / 1.5 children part. Marriage is on its way out as an instituition. Feminism has made marriage a bad choice for men.

Ahh…but the real point is to normalize the pattern of modern life for the Western 21st century female. The proper priority for achieving her life goals…school, career, THAN marriage and kids.

That’s a common trap that many a woman finds herself caught in. She’s grabbed on to the career – success – independence – equality bait, but finds that the marriage and children she always thought would eventually be in her future eluded her because she was too busy holding on to the things the monkey see, monkey do programming has indoctrinated her to believe was the desirable life track.

Keyster January 17, 2011 at 10:54

It’s about options.
The longer she delays marriage and motherhood the better chance she has to be exposed to the type of mate she’d want. As she ascends the corporate ladder, so do her opportunities to meet prince charming. And of course by then there will be plently of desperate beta males to fall back on if these plans don’t pan out exactly as she fantasized.

35 is the new 23. She must have at least a chance to prove she’s a worthwhile feminist before succumbing to patriarchy. Then she marrys, has a child or two, becomes disgusted and bored with her beta husband, and becomes a heroic single mom. This is the quintessential “life path” of the modern western female. And why men are wise to avoid marriage.

Whatever path our pop-culture dictates, she’ll follow…she doesn’t want to lose out on missing whatever other women are doing that seems to be good for them.

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Charles Martel January 17, 2011 at 11:03

@GM

I would recommend you do some research. Here is a tip. LOOK UP! There you go. Over ANY major western city on ANY clear day you will see chemtrails. A con-trail is frozen water and lasts just a few minutes. They are SHORT.

I’ve looked. All I’ve ever seen is contrails. Which can last quite some time. They are, after all, high altitude clouds, albeit man-made.

There are SO MANY books and videos out on the web now that anyone who is in denial of the spraying is just being willfully ignorant.

I don’t think I’m willfully ignorant. Ask me about 9/11, for example.

I was watching a vid recently where a chemist measured the amount of aluminium in the freshly fallen snow on mount shasta in california. It rated 66 times the upper limit for safe human consumption. This can NOT come from pollution. It HAS to come from the snow falling through the atmosphere or it has to be something FALLING ON TOP OF THE SNOW IN HIGH CONCENTRATIONS.

Link?

The chemtrails contain aluminium and barium among other things. Barium is a heavy metal. Not good. Monsanto has recently announced ‘aluminium resistant seeds’ that will grow in soil with high concentrations of aluminium. But these seeds will only grow with Monsanto fertilisers. Hhhhmmmmm.

I was in the UK during the Icelandic volcanic eruption last April. The airborne volcanic ash was totally invisible but after a couple of days all the cars were covered with a noticeable deposit. If chemtrails containing aluminum and barium were being sprayed over US cities, you wouldn’t have to go to Mount Shasta to prove it. All you’d have to do is wipe the roof of your car and have the dirt analyzed. Hasn’t happened, won’t happen, because chemtrails aren’t real.

The chemtrails are the second most visible piece of evidence of the coming ‘New World Order’ behind THE INTERNATIONAL MONEY SYSTEM.

There does seem to be an agenda to tie us all up in a global socialist dystopia. Very few people know that the recent Lisbon Treaty abolished the nations of Europe. There is no more UK, for example, they just haven’t got around to telling the people yet.

They have a good argument calling people ‘useless eaters’. I can’t find the fault in it. No wonder so many join the ‘in crowd’ when offered the opportunity. I often wonder what would have become of me if I took they job they offered me.

Unfortunately for you, you were born with two copies of the justice gene. I have them too, and am beginning to hate the amoral vampires that rule us with a shocking intensity.

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universe January 17, 2011 at 11:11

Regarding the female exhibitionism in work environments (or anywhere)heavily populated by men (or anyone, for that matter).
It is good that this is being written about by various men relaying their experiences in office settings. And these men are providing the first hand, unsanitized version of office whoredom and politics.
As for the collective titillators. What is with these idiots? Arriving at a work place exposing parts of their bodies, knowing full well that many men (females, too!) are going to look.
Then, the sexually harassing exhibitionist takes umbrage with her intended result – attention seeking. And some do so to the point of formulating dismissals for the men who look. Ludicrous. Ass-holes.
For looking at something unusual in a work environment – exposed body parts, the blame is un-naturally shifted on to men for allegedly not controlling their gaze, when, naturally, the responsibility, or irresponsibility rather, is owned by the attention seeking exhibitionist who cannot control herself. Children in developed bodies.
Idiot or moron are legitimate words that describe people, to no fault of their own, having less than average intelligence. But a wilful moron? Who presents herself in such unprofessional-ism? This element does not belong in a work environment where adults are busy at their paid assignments. And neither does the coddling and actions of the exhibitionist offender whose behavior sacks productive men.
Dialogue and more dialogue is truly needed to confront this and many other immature and moronic behaviors dominated by females. It’s going to happen more because it is happening now.

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Keoni Galt January 17, 2011 at 11:18

My take on chem-trails?

Don’t know. Won’t even pretend I do.

But what I do know is that what I do know of the social engineers that have shaped our world, I wouldn’t be surprised if in fact the conspiracy theories regarding chem-trails were true.

Their certainly exists a group of people that consider we the sheeple nothing but rabble. They’ve already got a lot of other depopulation measures instituted and they’ve been quite effective.

Look at the Georgia Guidestones. Some organization spent quite a bit of money to build this monument…and the very first guide inscripted in stone is “Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.”

Would I be shocked to discover that they are spraying us like bugs to try and get closer to this objective?

A lot of people give me grief for being a “conspiracy theorist.”

Look at the Georgia Guidestones…it’s not a theory, the agenda is literally written in stone!

Opus January 17, 2011 at 11:42

I am grateful universe.

Women (and that includes Merkel) whatever they say, seem unable to forget (even if it is unconscious) that the real point in life is to attract males. They do that and then complain, without seeming to be aware that the only reason for the attention is their behaviour.

I mentioned above a couple of unwanted instances of exposure/denial-aggression, however, it is not always like that. On another occasion a middle aged woman walked into my room and lifted her sweat-shirt to reveal her naked skin (no bra). Naturally I did not complain but encouraged her to do it again which she did. What was I supposed to do? and I can assure that not only was it a great surprise but I had given her absolutely no encouragement to act thus.

The position is:

1. Women signal men – not the other way round

2. Men respond.

If a women does not want attention, they should not signal. Of course if a man fails to respond to a signal, they feel rejected, but if he does respond they frequently put up the red light. Doing so is usually prick teasing but provided the green light is not raised at the same time ( as it frequently is) and thus confuses the man, the man will retreat (and lick his wounds). As such Sexual Harrasement by males is very rare (who wants rejection?) and in so far as one hears of it, is an indication of immaturity and self-centeredness on the part of the woman and seems to be part of a growing female hysteria and fantasy, which reveals what (deep-down) the woman really wants i.e. endless attention plus the desire to act the victim.

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universe January 17, 2011 at 12:57

Opus
Well stated.
What you wrote sums up our social parameters. However, they, too, appear to have flown out the window of good sense by sanctioned unrestrained female behavior.
When younger I would have revelled in this display of attention seeking, to a point. Afterwards, once the novelty of exhibitionism wears thin and the frustration thickens, one has to tell it for what it is. Among other descriptive words, unnecessary, mean spirited and manipulative.
Your experiences and observations deserve a good airing.

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CashingOut January 17, 2011 at 13:14

I recall reading an article not to long ago about the new Congress and their “struggle” to cut the budget down. Main problem: even though everyone agreed that money needed to be removed from the budget, no one wanted to give up their pet project. Which is the way it always is. Everyone in the US wants to cut spending, but does anyone want to give up their welfare check? Does anyone want to give up their pork padding? Will companies actually spend what it costs to develop weapons instead of 50 times the estimated original cost? Another reason why I am just getting out as opposed to trying to fix stuff here: too many people have been walking around with their head in an iPhone, watching the boob tube, and using the GPS to drive to the corner store for too long. In 10 years the newly adult generation probably won’t have any concept of things like “writing down directions” and “calling someone once and leaving a message.” Nemo had it right, this country is done, all you can do now is try to avoid the ensuing explosion of shit that is soon to come.

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Opus January 17, 2011 at 13:18

Thankyou universe and it is indeed cathartic to be able to tell certain things and to hear that I am not alone in both the abuse (that is what it is) and the frequent denial thereof indeed attempt to shift the responsibility to the male, when the male is the luckless victim.

I like your use of the word manipulative and when the opportunity arises I will either repeat what I wrote today or add other anecdotes – and I have others every bit as outrageous. As you say, at first it is amusing, and even flattering, but after a while it wears thin. I cannot, however, be alone in suffering the unwanted attentions of females at work.

In his Theory of Moral Sentiments Adam Smith (him on the twenty quid note) says that to accuse a male unfairly is a very serious matter (so this is obviously not a new matter) and observes that accusing a woman of the same conduct does not carry the same stigma, indeed they frequently, (he says) revel in it. Until the white-knights grasp that women behave like this things will not improve but as Nolan says that men are now refusing to enter lifts (in the city) with single women (women only lifts;-)) the problem is obviously becoming well known.

The only power that women have comes from a man and the only person they use it against is a man. To get to the stage where I am almost fearful that anything I say to a woman will be deliberately or otherwise misinterpreted is a sign of how far we have slipped. It used not to be like this.

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dubcik January 17, 2011 at 15:11

“But those kids eventually grow up. The child support ends, the alimony ends and if she did nothing but live off the money the state was transferring from her ex-husband to herself, she will eventually be caught by her own dependency.”

They’ve found a way to prolong this dependancy in Canada. If the child goes to post secondary education, even if the child is not living with mom while attending, CHILD Support is paid to MOM untill the first degree is completed. There is some talk of expanding CS to be continued for mom, untill a masters degree is completed. On top of CS, the father has to pay a portion of University expenses for the child. If mom doesn’t work much, he gets to pay most of the tab.

The stated reasoning behind continued CS for a child no longer at home is “mom still has to keep a room for the child when he/she comes to visit”. Nobody mentions that the father has kept a room for when the child came to visit him, for up to 24 years, without one dime of compensation for this.

That judges order this on fathers with a straight face speaks volumes about how far they are have gone, with very little resistance.

It might be nice to see mom finally lose her entitlements, but unfortunately by that time many fathers have had their life savings and retirement savings wiped out. So their struggle continues.

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gender foreigner January 17, 2011 at 16:34

Dear All:

Great discussion. Among other things, I have 20 years plus in the women’s government schools, over 200 schools, K-12 in French and English in every subject area. Here are some comments.

I ALWAYS have a teacher aide around me, especially as per female students. A credible adult witness is a must for a gender foreigner in the women’s feminazi government schools.

Up to about Grade 4, girls can be found dressing inappropriately by way of appearing to be prostitutes. By Grade 7, the predominant pattern of offence (for those who do offend–still the minority) is that girls dress like strippers. Male teachers (where they exist) cannot tell those strippers to dress appropriately: they must find a, “teacher teacher” (this is a student-developed term for a normal teacher as opposed the a, “man teacher”) to tell the stripper not to dress as such.

School divisions/districts have policies that both staff and students are to cover up. However, the women in the schools (especially the floater staff which goes from school to school) can be found dressing with big, fat, ugly balls of fat hanging from their chests. They appear to be pieces of roundular lard: they are definite non-babes.

Because girls from Grade 7 onward tend toward stripperdome, school authorities have found environmentally friendly ways of encouraging students to cover-up. Instead of using the rule of law (“Don’t be a stripper, you Feminist slut in training.), authorities employ the rule of motivation and turn the school temperature down even to 17C instead of the normal room temperature of 20C so that the strippers must cover up (usually with sweaters which cover their still persistent stripper outfits).

You have to watch out for women’s omnipresent right to impose false accusation against men (which is probably women’s favorite instrument of violence against men). I’ve been victimized many, many times.

In order to reach the illegitimate children in the women’s government schools (WGSs), I’ve given them various attention such as pushing them on the swings at recess. I’ve done so with prior permission from the principal and the agreement of staff on recess duty who agreed to watch me so as to protect me from false accusation. Nevertheless, I’ve been victimized.

Slut egg-providers (one cannot call them, “mothers”) get quite jelous that a man would succeed with their children when they only fail. Simple love/attenetion/humanity WORKS. The false accusation comes. And despite my change in distancing myself from the Feminist literal bastards, they come to me because they have emotional diets which are starvation. As such, when the Little Miss Muffets come to me, I can be horrified inside because of women’s hate against a successful man where they fail as they are heartless and their children know it, preferring to run to me and not their egg providers.

In reflecting men’s participation in the Feminist problem, one must keep the following mathematical patterns in mind. In the pyramid of society, as per the concept of who government is BY, men predominate at the top whereas women predominate at the bottom. As per the concept of who government is FOR, women predominate and men do not even appear as beneficiaries.

When men act for women (against men), they do so as individuals. When women act for women (against men), they do so both as individuals and as a category.

Here is a definition for a quisling: “A quisling is somebody who wins INDIVIDUALLY by losing CATEGORICALLY.” Mr. Quisling of Norway won as Mr. Quisling but lost as a Norwegian. Barrack Obama wins as Barrack Obama but loses as a man.

Mathematically, as one climbs the pyramid, one must individuate to reach the top, and, as such, one forsakes category significantly. Being at the top, men indivuate categorically whereas women so often refuse to indivuate and so do not reach the peak. In order to do so, they would have to break their gender union and become a gender scab laborer. But men, not having a gender union, act as what would otherwise be scabs all the time. For men, life is, “open shop.”

However, as men are put assunder categorically, notice that they are collectivizing. This discussion board is an example of such as is the men’s collective at the University of Chicago. The male gender union is forming whereas while women climb and individuate, they become gender scabs increasingly.

There is much more to be said here but I will quit at that.

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gender foreigner January 17, 2011 at 16:43

PS to All:

As per the support staff who float from school to school and dress like strippers, there is Affirmative Action for women in the over 85% female environment of the women’s government schools. One area of such is that of tech support, especially as per computers.

Computer rooms are actually quite hot places and, as such, there is a systematic breakdown in the rule-of-motivation strategy to get pubescent girls to cover-up. In fact, the thermally hot rooms of computers actually aid and abet the stripperese of the Grade-7 and higher girls. The female Affirmative Action support chicks dress in layers so that they can be full Grade-7-like strippers as they strip down computers and address their inner workings.

The thermally hot chicks who are sexually not hot chicks thusly are immitators of the hot chicks in Grade 7 and above and the saunas of computer rooms are places where stripperdome reaches its climax, probably in more than one way, (as intended) and, as such, I can predict that within the next teacher-teacher sexual aggression against boys would most likely be related to the computer room where introverted computer geeks with no social skills are treated as the in-school harem of Feminist rejects of men who do not want their torment, confiscation, false accusation and acid.

Look out for teacher chicks coming on to computer-geek boys in computer rooms. The compounded high temperature in such rooms is maximum in the spring.

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W.F. Price January 17, 2011 at 16:52

Look out for teacher chicks coming on to computer-geek boys in computer rooms. The compounded high temperature in such rooms is maximum in the spring.

-gender foreigner

Are you the escapist/sexy pterodactyl? Maybe not, because she’s actually amusing sometimes, and this is kind of a waste of effort.

Please try harder next time.

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Ronin January 17, 2011 at 17:44

@ Firepower
“Men are amongst feminists greatest allies – this alliance is what makes them all dangerous.”

Every doting father of a “princess” is guilty. Chris Rock joked that his purpose in life is to keep his daughter off the stripper pole. It’s a high wire act, on one side princess get all the attention from Dad and become her namesake. On the other, not enough attention and it’s cock-merry-go-round.

Good luck Dad.

PS: Jenna Jameson was quoted saying her father took advantage of the “perks” that came with her career choice.

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) January 18, 2011 at 06:04

dubcik January 17, 2011 at 15:11
“They’ve found a way to prolong this dependancy in Canada. If the child goes to post secondary education, even if the child is not living with mom while attending, CHILD Support is paid to MOM untill the first degree is completed.”

In Ireland if the child goes to university the child support goes until 22.
For those who are interested, and that should be nearly ALL of you. We are now in the middle of our SECOND test case in Ireland of a man refusing to pay child support. (Myself being the first. Not one cent in three years. ;-) No charges against my strawman)

In this second case? So far, so good. His son is 18 and went back to school and the state demanded EUR150/week in child support. He simply said that he has no contract with them and he’s not paying. When the cops come to his door to threaten him with a ‘summons’ he just tells them no contract and be on their way. They kidnapped him and locked him up for new years eve on a different matter just to inconvenience him at the most inconvenient time. But they have said and done nothing about the child support yet.

Another test case just got resolved yesterday. A man is using his own car for private hire without a ‘taxi license’. He has done the paperwork properly and de-registered the car and reclaimed it back as his own property to do with as he pleases. The cops stole his car last week. After consulting a few people he decided to give them a bill for the car since they seemed to want to own it. For the full price of the car I believe. They handed it back inside 24 hours! LOL!! Seems they didn’t want to pay the bill! LOL!!

Oh..yeah…that’s right….this is all just bollocks that men are doing this….don’t bother reading.. ;-)

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Firepower January 18, 2011 at 10:44

Ronin January 17, 2011 at 17:44

@ Firepower
“Men are amongst feminists greatest allies – this alliance is what makes them all dangerous.”

PS: Jenna Jameson was quoted saying her father took advantage of the “perks” that came with her career choice.

You’ll have a hard time here convincing the “I don’t wanna hear it!” crowd of ex-T-Ballers raised in Government Schools to believe their inculcated “self-esteem” trumps removing their dick from a vagina before the moment of truth.

They “should” not have to wear a condom.

Jenna’s dad was also a 9/11 Hero! ™ – a sworn law enforcement officer as I recall. Let’s give him a bonus.

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Begby January 18, 2011 at 12:17

Time to hop the next train out of here and leave the feminists and the illegal immigrants to enjoy each other’s company. That will be quite a show. Patriarchal, religious, socially conservative hispanic men will be all that’s left for the feminists to have kids with!

I can’t see Mexican men buckling to feminism very easily in less than a few generations, so it’ll be interesting to see: do the fems become conservative, or do they de-ball the Mexican guys?

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Ulysses January 22, 2011 at 19:07

I’m late to the show, but thanks to universe, Opus, Peter, et al for sharing. These up-and-coming strippers are infiltrating public life and the workplace.

I can anecdotally confirm what Peter said. My relatively small US-based company has a London branch, and when the bunch (all female) visited us in advance of a US-hosted conference, I couldn’t believe my eyes. Those skanktards were shameless, and easily outdid the locals who work or have worked here, both young and mid-age. The senior UK hag was entering Jayne Mansfield territory.

Nobody called them out on it. Even the male CEO walked into the room and greeted them like buddies. Sick. Later that week my intelligence was really insulted. Our local hag (think Joy Behar) expressed disgust that some guy in the elevator unzipped to quickly fix his shirt. He probably didn’t show anything, but you see, he’s the pig, and the hoochtards who visited us didn’t get so much as a blink from her. I regret that I fumbled my chance to throw facts and logic at her.

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gender foreigner January 23, 2011 at 20:51

Dear Ulysses:

Thanks for your declaration. I’ve regretted not doing things after the fact, also. In one case, an elder woman I know/know of invited me to her c85th birthday party. I went.

It ended up being a Feminist celebration of women’s abuse against men. Of the three main political parties in Canada (all parties are Feminist, even the, “Christian” parties are chivalrous and/or Feminist), all three sent representatives. The Progressive Conservative Party, New Democratic Party and Liberal Party sent female-supremacist women. They celebrated their criminal negligence to protect males, their ever-worsening paratism against men, especially as per divorce, etc. And, of course, the icing on the cake was constant reference to, “Violence against Women.”

Because I was an invitee (the language should allow me to be gender-designated an, “invite”), I shut-up, but because I was so concerned (that concern lingered on intensely for months, I decided that in the future, in any case of such similarity, I would speak up and/or do something.

The birthday girl phoned me up a few months later and I expressed my concern. She was not sorry for her anti-male hate, just saying, “I’m sorry you feel that way.” Among other decisions, I decided not to have anything to do with her, etc.

In reflection over the past about 6 years from that event, I can say that the regret I identified was, in part, evidence of my continuation (and intensification) of my decision to oppose the anti-male hate by and of women (and girls).

In order to sooth your soul, perhaps you might reflect on your situation and see it in the light I have continued to see my situation.

Thank you again, Ulysses, for your valaued contribution.

Sincerely,

Gender Foreigner.

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bevis March 17, 2011 at 20:26

you can catch raccoons that way

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