I figured our corner of the internet would eventually attract wider attention, and it’s been pretty clear that some journalists have been reading us recently, particularly in the wake of the Assange case. So it wasn’t all that surprising to see Paul referred to in the NY Times, although the referral was about what you’d expect: accompanied by a few disparaging remarks. However, they actually provided a link this time, which is a break from recent protocol in which they dare not even mention us by name.
The article concerns the Male Studies discipline, which was founded to counter the powerful feminist departments in universities, which run women’s studies, cultural anthropology and English departments across the US. They also dominate the weird subcategory of “men’s studies,” which is characterized by male and female professors who have a negative view of natural masculinity, including one who had himself castrated and now calls himself a woman. In fact, the nastiest hate mail I’ve received here at The Spearhead has come from these people, who have wished me death on a couple occasions. Although the overwhelming majority of death threats are nothing to worry about, it does give one pause to know that someone disturbed and psychotic enough to voluntary mutilate his own genitalia has it in for you. Kind of brings “Buffalo Bill” of Silence of the Lambs to mind…
It’s a good thing that they opened this with a link to Paul’s site. He’s mature, voluble and combative enough to stay on target and stand up to attacks. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him on TV at some point — I think the radio is already a given if we put some effort into it.
So, here’s my suggestion for activism:
Call up your favorite local talk radio and tell them you’d like them to interview an MRA. Now that the “MSM” is starting to pay attention, it’s time for us to branch out a bit and expand beyond the internet.
We should have a list of a few of the more prominent bloggers who are willing to go live on the airwaves, and start suggesting radio stations and TV talk shows interview them. However, I’d strongly recommend steering clear of known hostiles — a Dr. Phil appearance would obviously be a setup.
It definitely looks like the time has come.
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First they ignore you. Done.
Then they laugh at you. Done.
Then they fight you. The battle has been joined.
Then you win. Stay tuned.
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I came here to say that Anti.
Well played.
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At first I was like “Good god, has someone in the MSM secretly taken the red pill?”
Then the usual melancholy overtook me.
Still, I like it how their ad hominem attack on Paul is for his ‘concentration camp’ argument – when it’s true: see the SCUM Manifesto for a start
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The link is good because debate helps us.
I should hope MSN makes some reaches towards the MRM seeing how many comments below the articles are sensing something wrong for men.
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Schopenhauer said something to that effect:
All truth passes through three stages.
First it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed (we’re entering this phase)
and third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Ah, to see the end of the emasculation of the traditional hard-working introspective male, to see the destruction (metaphorically, not physically – for that would be inciting) of the metrosexual, gays and manginas. To witness the dethroning of the Winfreys, Behars, O’Donnells and their ilk. Puts a smile on my face. They won’t go without a fight, but they will wake up sooner or later to reality.
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They also mention “The Futurist” and a screed about civilizational collapse. Is that TFH and The Misandry Bubble?
I have noticed that mainstream media comment sections are often filled with anti-feminist comments. Also, a lot of Christian sites are resorting to heavy-handed moderating because of all of the anti-Christo-feminist commentary coming from the regular male readership. Not trolls or drive-bys, but guys who have been commenting there for years and have started taking a harder line on things.
Feminists and feminist-enablers are starting to really feel the heat. I think it’s the economy.
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And, to all those nay-sayers who thought Paul shouldn’t have debated David Futile – raspberries all around!
Mr. Futrellity was just Paul warming up with the lightweights before he went into the ring going for the championship belt.
Wow, what if they gave a gender war, and men, or at least a few of them, showed up?
Who will be our Spartacus?
I nominate Paul Elam.
Now, are there 70,000 former slaves willing to rise up and follow him?
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Men’s Studies wasn’t founded to counter the feminists, it was founded by feminists. In today’s PC, feminist, marxist (sorry for the redundancy) university environment, how could it have been otherwise? An actual anti-feminist “men’s studies” wouldn’t fly on any college campus.
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Right — Male Studies was founded to counter feminists. Men’s Studies is simply an appendage of feminism.
Thanks for posting this, Mr. Price, and for your kind words. My tracking is already showing a bump in New York visits, with the print version of this article due out tomorrow.
I totally support your thinking that we need to take things to the next level.
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And, all is not quiet on the western front while you are fighting on the eastern one, either, Paul. The Boycott American Women blog has just fired the first opening salvo on Ft. Sumter – indicating that the battle is about to be joined in earnest.
I’ve already gotten one of those sad “hey, this is the wrong way to go about this, we don’t want them (the wimmin-firsters) to call us bad names – like ‘misogynist’ ” types of emails in response to my article about that blog.
Funny how those who piddle themselves in self-congratulation when they “speak truth to power” get their panties all in a wad when you have guys like you saying “all is not well in Manville these days”, and BAM saying “all is not well in Womanville either.”
“Next level, here we come!”
Fasten your seat belts, guys, it could turn out to be a real interesting ride.
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Yep, he did mention The Misandry Bubble, saying :
Never mind that Mary Daly did in fact say that reducing the male population down to 10% is desirable. No one can seriously doubt that many feminists crave the enslavement or even extermination of men.
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Interestingy I did an internet radio interview nearly a year ago now. One of really funny comments is often “he doesn’t sound nearly so angry as he does in his posts.” Um…posts are silent and any ‘anger’ is in the mind of the reader.
Quite a few people were quite surprised at my reports on how I was treated. They are shocked this is considered ‘normal’ and ‘ok’ by the women. They are also usually surprised that I make it clear right up front that feminism and the destruction of the family is preparation for depopulation.
The best quote that came out of pre-interview discussion with Vince was ‘weaponisation of the family relationships’. I said that in the pre-interview discussion and Vince loved it so I included it in the interview. It’s 2 hours so it’s quite long but it is a great primer for young men to learn how you will be treated after being a great husband and father for 20 years. It’s 54 mb so it takes a while to come down. Interviews like this really get the attention of young men who listen to it. Over on MABTW quite a few of the young guys wrote to me to say they really got a lot out of it. Voice does beat type for the young guys it seems.
http://www.peternolan.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=tns_globalman.mp3&tabid=538&mid=1230
Vinces new site is here. http://tnsradio.ning.com/ The radio show is every Sunday night at 9pm. It’s worth listening to. Vince has made it onto mainstream radio on Ireland. Indeed. Recently there was mainstream media in both Ireland and Australia on the topic that mortgages are not lawful and do not need to be paid.
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Everyone, things are happening.
Go out there and post flyers. I have been doing it, and others have too.
http://www.singularity2050.com/2011/01/the-time-has-arrived.html#tp
Once we cross the small milestone of 1000 hours or thereabouts, things will be quite different. Imagine when a new commenter at The Spearhead says he found it based on a flyer he saw posted above a urinal. That would be great.
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I can’t believe The Misandry Bubble was chosen as an example of the extremist fringe.
The Misandry Bubble repeatedly explains how feminism hurts average women, how people with young daughters should be worried about feminism, and how manginas/whiteknights are worse perpetrators of misandry than average women, under my oft-repeated statement of :
Hardcore feminists > manginas/pedestalizers > average women.
Sheeesh…..
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Yep, he did mention The Misandry Bubble.
Cool. Congrats on the plug. Too bad they didn’t include a link.
You’re not an extremist except to people who are drinking the Kool-Aid. Then again, they problem think I’m an extremist, as well, or just plain crazy. But if the world is crazy, and they think you’re crazy, doesn’t that make you sane?
Hot debate. What do you think?
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Never mind that my statement of some feminists want to send men to concentration camps was supported by a link to an article about a feminist saying exactly this.
So Charles McGrath chose to be deliberately deceptive, rather than admit that The Misandry Bubble supported the claim with an example of feminist extremism.
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You’re not an extremist except to people who are drinking the Kool-Aid.
Thanks, Alte. I said so many times that ‘average women are hurt by feminism for the following reasons’….
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Zed, we are just getting into our stride to get word out about the book in OZ. When men in oz read that they can end their marriage FROM THE BEGINNING so that they can NEVER be dragged into the FC and they START DOING IT? You will hear the screams ofthe wimminz from where you are!! LOL!
Here is how to rescind your consent to the marriage contract in ALL former british empire countries. Fill one of these out with a default judgment after 20-30 days and you can NEVER be taken to the FC. EVER. I have done one of these and am just about to follow up on the default judgement. No UCC ‘judge’ can overturn an unrebutted affidavit because an unrebutted affidavit and default judgment also stands as law in a UCC court.
http://www.peternolan.com/Forums/tabid/420/forumid/58/threadid/589/scope/posts/Default.aspx
We have two more grand juries coming up in Australia in the next month or so. I am about to put my family law lawyer Justin Dowd on trial for his part in stealing my house and his subversive efforts of lying to me constituting contract fraud. This is what a criminal looks like:
http://www.wattsmccray.com.au/pages/about-us/people/justinD.html
Here. Compare these two statements. This from his web site:
And now have a look at his email trail as he tried to tell me the courts had the jurisdiction to take my property and as he tried to deny common law was superior at a time I had evidence it was. Look at the lies he tells in his emails…this is what family law lawyers are like. This guy is ‘toast’. This is why family law lawyers scurry away from me when I challenge them like the rats and vermin they truely are.
http://www.peternolan.com/Forums/tabid/420/forumid/36/threadid/678/scope/posts/Default.aspx
When no manginas will ‘defend’ the women the women are going to be REAL upset.
Guys here are WELCOME to ping his fax machine or email. jdowd@wattsmccray.com.au. He has blocked my email address….so it would be real cool for a LOT of email to turn up into his account from all over the world calling him the scumbag criminal he is!
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Yup, pretty much. Once I got a thick enough skin to shrug off the attacks (some of them are very artfully done) I reached the point of saying “Well, if the idiots don’t like me, and I am upsetting them so much, I must be doing something right.”
Or, as any of the old original MGTOWers will remember us discussing –
“When you start taking flak, you are close to the target.”
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I know everyone here likes to say that Sweden is the worst country of the world when it comes to feminism, but here’s a show in the biggest TV channel where the most of the participators’ are MRAs or MRA friendly.
http://svtplay.se/v/2277335/debatt/del_17_av_17__tisdag?cb,a1364145,1,f,-1/pb,a1364142,1,f,-1/pl,v,,2277335/sb,p104688,1,f,-1
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@TFH: Who is doing all the work if male frequency is bounded at the 10 percent level?
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Average/everyday people are shocked, if not mortified, that anyone would dare speak of feminism in the negative. You can’t temper it enough. To us it’s a pretty delicate essay. It informs those who write, who their audience is. Don’t say crazy sh*t. Think.
Paul’s NYT readership introduction was great!
If this goes to the next level, beyond internet anonymity and safety, I’m prepared to go there. Whatever anyone needs. My background is marketing.
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@TFH: Who is doing all the work if male frequency is bounded at the 10 percent level?
They don’t think men do any useful work.
Also, who will carry out the extermination of 90% of men?
If anyone wants to write to Charles McGrath about how he deliberately overlooks examples of feminists wanting to send men to concentration camps, while slamming as ‘extremist’ those who expose these feminist urges, you can do so here :
http://www.nytimes.com/membercenter/emailus.html
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That is funny. So how about freezing any male to female transfer of wealth for a week? How about infrastructure, protection etc. breaks down, CS is stopped etc.?
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I don’t know, I think Dick Masterson handled that rather well …
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Well, this is excellent news.
I am reminded about what Dawkins said (I’m not his biggest fan) about zeitgeist: How it builds, and eventually reaches a tipping point. The zeitgeist seems to be moving in the the right direction.
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@TFH
I enjoyed reading the Misandry Bubble. The reference in the NYT article seems misleading to me. It made me laugh actually.
There’s nothing to be surprised about if mainstream journalists find some of our ideas weird or even lunatic.
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I enjoyed reading the Misandry Bubble. The reference in the NYT article seems misleading to me. It made me laugh actually.
Thanks, man. The funny thing is, if a feminist says men should be enslaved, that is OK, but a man who points this statement out is ‘misogynist’.
BTW, please take an hour or two to post flyers in the URLs @ Urinals campaign. It is a way to have a big impact for the least effort and cost.
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BTW, please take an hour or two to post flyers in the URLs @ Urinals campaign. It is a way to have a big impact for the least effort and cost.
That is a great tactic, but I wonder how much clout an MRA would have who openly declares to his workmates, in a feminized union environment that he’s an MRA? Methinks this would count for a lot. An open challenge to the fembots.
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No. There are men that will back him up though. Sparticus was a loser. Paul is not.
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I also enjoyed the Misandry Bubble when I read it (when it was first published). I was well aware of feminism and misandry beforehand but it put everything together in one spot. A singular work in anti-feminism and it’s consequences backed up by facts and sources. I actually read it all in one sitting.
And this guy from th NY Misandric Times calls it an “interminable screed”. The tons of info in that article and that’s how he sums it up. There was nothing in the Misandry Bubble with any merit worth discussing? Nothing at all? What an asshole.
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Who will be our Spartacus?
I nominate Paul Elam.
Seconded.
Now, are there 70,000 former slaves willing to rise up and follow him?
Remember that we do have a way to grow our numbers from a few hundred today, to something closer to 70,000 by the end of the year.
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The mainstream media are bunch of idiots. They’ll believe that murder is a right, raping a new born child is a right. I don’t give two shits about those jack asses on screen.
In truth, until you white people figure out who the real enemy is. The MRM and the MRA would always remain in constant stand still.
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@ Zed, TFH
As I have said many times before, I don’t consider myself a leader. But I don’t think it really matters. I would very much like to do radio shows and increase other efforts to get the message out. And the more that support that the better.
I will always see us as a million armies of one, though.
I do hope we are able to develop more strategy. The current discussion on spreading posters and such is a great idea. I hope, as we are pointing people to different websites that we could perhaps also direct them to a download of The Book of Zed.
I know there are some really good traditionally published books out there, but my thinking is to take them to the source.
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NY Failure Times article:
This old canard. No, History is the study of history, it just so happens that men dominated the important events. Blame nature.
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@ Lavazza
The program is in swedish unfortunately.
But it makes sense that in a country where feminism is especially strong, the MRM will find some support.
Men can only be aware of the hidden agenda of feminism once many of them have gone through great sufferings. The MRM is a reaction to feminism.
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Violation.
Use of the “f” word without including the asterisk will no longer be accepted. After copious warnings, this request has been ignored. Now action will be taken,
We are working to increase this site’s credibility and the continual use of abusive language will no longer be tolerated.
Christian J.
Moderator.
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I’m surprised people still read the NYT! The ones who do are the ones most in need of seeing an alternate message, so this is definitely good news.
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No, Paul, but you are a warrior, which is more significant. The most important part of being a leader is being good as what one does.
I actually wrote a lengthy refutation about the call for a Spartacus, because so many men seem to want not a Spartacus to lead them, but a David to slay the Goliath of feminism and political correctness for them so they don’t miss their football game.
Your own debate with Futrellity had lots of detractors of the “don’t be so aggressive, so…, so…, well so masculine about it” variety.
Think about how quickly the Berlin Wall came down. For 28 years it had stood like a monolith creating a psychological barrier that was more effective in keeping people trapped than the physical barrier was.
The same is true of feminism – it is a wall made of jello, held up by the efforts of WhiteKnightManginaBot ass-licking supplicants. It’s quivering right now like a willow tree in a hurricane.
This is the time for every man out there who realizes what is going on to grab any sledgehammer or pry bar he can and have his own go at whatever section of the wall is at hand. When the Battle of Forbes went down, a call to arms resulted a total rout on the battlefield – in 3 days there was not one fembot left standing.
70,000 men calling out the feminitwits and the Lame Stream Media on their BS is going to make a lot of noise. Look at the stir that one man – BAM – (nice acronym, don’t you think?) has made.
What makes a man a leader is neither the desire to lead on his part nor the desire to follow him on the part of other men – but simply to be in the right place, at the right time, with the right set of skills, and do what needs to be done.
Your ability to verbally cut fools down to the bone is 2nd to none. Your sensei trained you well.
He is proud of you. Making you out to be an isolated nutcase is how they will try to silence your message, but if they are hearing it from 1,000 directions at once there is little they can do about it.
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The shots across the bow have been fired, the ships are in maneuvers. Perhaps our little cruiser will make it survive the battle.
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Yeah, I was going to respond that I saw Paul more as a General Patton than a Spartacus, but I wanted to see other people’s take first.
We’ve broken through the defensive line, and at this point we just need some guys to go charging in. Paul’s well-suited for that, and I think he’d have fun doing it.
You pissed off the manginas at the New York Beta Times, Paul. Gratz on that!
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WFP,
and at this point we just need some guys to go charging in. Paul’s well-suited for that, and I think he’d have fun doing it.
I think so. Being someone who is not constrained by the need to remain anonymous is also a plus.
zed,
For 28 years it had stood like a monolith creating a psychological barrier that was more effective in keeping people trapped than the physical barrier was.
Yes. Remember that the regime that is dependent on restricting the flow of information (misandric laws, in this case) always loses out to the rebels who strengthen with the free flow of information. Information wants to be free.
It is only a question of speed… The actions we take will determine whether the toppling is fast or slow, orderly or turbulent.
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@ Mr Elam who mentioned this Book of Zed.
Interesting. It’s been bookmarked and will be processed in due time.
Such a plethora of info to ingest.
I have a Bachelor’s Degree from the University of Waterloo in Environmental Studies with a Minor in Political Science (1987-1993) which in retrospect was a lot of hogwash but did teach me one important skill: how to process information with a critical mind.
Post grad years were spent spinning my wheels trying to get my foot in the door but realized the workplace is too tame for a maverick and shaker-upper such as my self. I often thought that were I to apply my experiences and knowledge (heavily influenced by Schopenhauer, Dave Sim among others) further, it would be something along the lines of “How the Workplace must accommodate the male drive of competition and stifle female needs which are ultimately counter-productive to a vibrant economy and culture.”‘
Seems we may be getting close to this goal, as bureaucracies are being recognized every day and lethargic, counter-productive venues for the idle and overpaid.
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Email your congressional representatives about the MRM and what we are trying to do to change things. I emailed mine you do the same.
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@ all
The votes of confidence are appreciated. Over the rest of the weekend I am going to write down some of my thoughts on this matter and try to post them by Monday.
Wherever this goes, it’s been a good day.
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“… bureaucracies are being recognized every day and lethargic, counter-productive venues for the idle and overpaid.”
This may be generalizing things a bit too much: Women lean towards supporting the big nanny-police state, lethargic bureaucracies, and the socialist village. Most men by nature lean more towards the freedom of the open plain, liberty, and the family home.
I’m not a religious man yet there is something to be said about how, in ancient times, G-d was originally against the people’s desire to establish a strong central government and an elitist monarchy.
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zed:
Worf: Kahless said, “Great men do not seek power. They have power thrust upon them.”
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Just curious in the fliers people are doing. I was planning on going out tommorrow to all the local businesses, libraries, etc. tommorrow and putting fliers up.
Here is what I have so far….
“If you are a man and you feel there is something wrong with society, check these websites out. They will speak truth to you that no TV show, or commercial magazine/newspaper can.
http://www.the-spearhead.com
http://www.avoiceformen.com
http://www.angryharry.com
Peace brothers.”
It’s short and I”ve only included 3 websites. I think these 3 sites would be a good start. Maybe I should include more? Maybe I should say more….talk about paternity fraud, domestic violence industry, divorce, child support, false rape allegations???
Any thoughts.
Nice to see that Paul got mentioned in the NYT. Hopefully this wakes up more Proles.
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Bad publicity is better than no publicity, am I right?
Sure, now many more people will be at paul’s site calling him a “misogynistic, woman-hating, patriarchal, rape-tolerating, woman-beating bastard”, but there will be perhaps hundreds who will see the truth. We here at the Spearhead, and the MRM at large, might become mainstream.
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IF you are a college graduate of a certain age, you probably remember that there used to be an all-purpose discipline that studied men and their behavior. It was called history.
And isn’t wimmin studies without the biases simply anthropology.
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For anyone who thinks journalist McGrath has sold anyone in the MRM up the river, consider how far he’d have gotten trying to get copy past the NYT sub-editors if he’d been openly anti-feminist. My hat’s off to him for the well-camouflaged pointer.
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And isn’t wimmin studies without the biases simply anthropology.
Anthropology has always had its limitations but I’m very mistrustful of their motives and credibility at this point, the whole of it, No Science please, we’re Anthropologists
Wherever this goes, it’s been a good day. -Paul
Today has definitely been a good day for the MRM. After seeing an amazing article from pro-male and seeing the right person get referenced in the New York Times it feels like we’re gaining a new form.
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I think this is great, but I will be glad to see the death of lame stream media one day, just for what they done to men and boys over the past 40 odd years.
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Nico: Of course it is in Swedish, most discussions programs on Swedish television are. The big break through with this program was that most or many of the participants where MRAs or MRA friendly, until this program the set up has, more or less, been that if a MRA is invited, there would be 2-3 radical feminists invited and a talk show host who is siding with them.
Google translate this:
http://www.pellebilling.se/2010/12/svt-debatt/
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The biggest of the parties in the ruling coalition in Sweden has a MRA branch.
http://moderatmannen.moderatblogg.se/
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Moderatmannen/126306257411532
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Unfortunately that branch is not as active as independent MRA bloggers (Pelle Billing and Pär Ström have done a wonderful job and are starting to get a lot of MSM invitations), but hey have been published some in MSM.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Moderatmannen/126306257411532#!/note.php?note_id=139964412682885
And here they are debating with the leader of Sweden’s feminist party (former leader of the communist party, that has been in parliament for more than 50 years). Again in the biggest TV channel.
http://ansats.blogspot.com/2010/01/gudrun-och-moderatmannen.html
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Isn’t the quote from Shakespeare, and doesn’t it go:
“Some men are born great, some men achieve greatness and others have greatness thrust upon them”. Without wishing to swell Mr Elam’s head – who it would appear is in the last of the three categories – I will say that I have much appreciated his YouTube videos, at least the ones that I have seen.
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@ paul
My dad used to say,
“Boys want power, so that they can BE something…
But,
Men want power, so that they can DO something.”
Here’s lies the difference between the “lead”, verses “leader”
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trashed says
My dad used to say,
“Boys want power, so that they can BE something…
But,
Men want power, so that they can DO something.”
That is one of the most important fundamental differences among people. It can be a little bit subtle to pick up on at first but once you start watching for it it becomes clear that the there are huge, fundamental differences between those who mostly want to do and those who mostly want to be/have. So often I’ve observed people who, for example, want to be a manager but who don’t want to manage. They’ll BS their way into a job and as soon as they get it they start thinking about how they’ll BS their way to the next level. They have no intention of ever doing any job beyond the bare minimum. This is a natural state for them, it’s what they grew up with usually and they can’t imagine anything else. Those around them don’t recognize what’s going on because they were raised just the opposite and can’t relate to this kind of superficiality.
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What I also found interesting is that there were zero comments regarding the article. When I logged in to add one it showed that the article was “closed for comments”. It appears they’re afraid of either awakening a sleeping giant or just how popular we’re becoming. Paul seems to be one of the most articulate concerning the masculine mystique and while yes there are many others as he, what distinguishes him from the rest is his chutzpah for not showing any restraint …basically if you don’t like the “size” of it…he slaps you in the face with it for more kicks. Bravo to Paul Elam.
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We sat in the front rows of the Family Court 20 years ago with our homemade badges that read “Father’s Support Group”. We carried picket signs and had State Legislators running around like rats when we showed up 200 strong on the Capitol Steps. Surely things were going to change now. Individual acts of defiance were breaking out and soon the tide would turn.
20 years ago I believed that common sense and the truth would prevail. I was taught that the truth would always win the day. What I didn’t understand is that truth is not always self-evident. Truth often takes a long way around to find its believers.
Sometimes when I look back at the futile efforts of my fellow Fathers and men I wonder what it was worth. I sat out the efforts for some years as I finally realized that the truth didn’t matter. My Children grew up and I grew old. I had a life to live and the truth was lost forever.
I sit here at my machine and smile and reflect at how I have grown up to a bigger picture of “Our” efforts. I never heard of a “Feminazi” “Mangina” “Manhole” “Misandry” “Deadbeat” and many assorted words that I still come across on this blog.
It was not all for nothing. I threw my spear at the Citadel of Gender Feminism and it shattered. I slumped away a broken and disillusioned man.
To all who write and read here many thanks. I know now it was for something bigger than my children and myself. Maybe wishful thinking but maybe something concrete has come out of the pain of past defeats. The world is changing as it always does. It got here over time and we will reverse it in time. Many thanks for the efforts is about all I am able to do now. Please continue if it is only the sharp point of your Quill.
End of musings!
Thanks All
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@Jim4146- If you click onto the comments there is this a statement about comments no longer being accepted. I commented yesterday with an edited version of the comment I left on Paul’s site, including not just the reasons why male studies are necessary but adding as a commenter on A Voice for Men wisely pointed out that history has always included high powered women in its books. My comment was never published though I did not notice the message about comments being closed then.
Did anybody else leave a comment on the NYT article?
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I sent this to the times…
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I question the timing of this article in the times. “The Study of Males”
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/education/09men-t.html?pagewanted=1&_r=3&ref=education
Some female POL in Az just got shot in the head by some mentally ill “tea partier.” (Badly nurtured or abused… That’s what would be said, if the situation had different victims and perps.)
I wager the times ‘male studies’ story was sitting on the back burner waiting for an opportune time so it could equate it with “violence” or etc negative.
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Also, that Charles McGrath article did not give good examples of extremism in the anti feminist movement.
A good example is…
http://seanmaccloud.blogspot.com/
…But denouncing those who don’t pray to females is a function of this upside down world you all (liberals, christians, “marxists”, capitalists) have created which is breeding the neo cortex into extinction faster than you can say Yankee Doodle.
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End letter to times.
Begin note to spearhead about the above:
You guys want to play with the big boys, you need to learn the game.
That game is “Ve is all equal and freedom of speech” as demonstrated above by the times.
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Mary Daly did say “[the male population should be kept at 10%].” I agree with that actually. *Which 10%* is the battle though.
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Pual da Man !!!!
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I am inviting Paul to T21C 2011 today. Internet TV for the win.
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Paul knows his shit, networks well, and keeps on putting material out. He pushes the boundaries of what broader society will accept but that’s not to say he doesn’t show restraint. There are certain issues he won’t touch, places he won’t go, and this makes it difficult for broader society to label him an extremist.
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@Lovecraft,
You need to get the hell out of Ontario, dude. Go west, young man.
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Invite sent, Bill we should talk this week. And I have not forgotten about the interview, just busy =).
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I’m sure, that on this forum, only Paul (as a wizened, mature man) can appreciate the fact that Jared Lee Loughner also probably made the NYT.
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@ all
I have just posted the following to my site.
http://www.avoiceformen.com/2011/01/10/passing-the-hat-not-the-buck/
Thanks
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Isn’t it a bizarre coincidence that “Loughner” could easily be (and maybe is) pronounced “loner.”
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@ cdub January 8, 2011 at 21:08
Just curious in the fliers people are doing. I was planning on going out tommorrow to all the local businesses, libraries, etc. tommorrow and putting fliers up….
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In USAF there is a thing called a “zap”–a small sticker the size of one’s palm that usually shows the crest of your unit or squadron. These things often show up in embarrassing places, like on your rival squadron commander’s car and such. Anyway, a small “bumper sticker” like that with those three websites (or others) would be pretty damn handy. And a lot easier to carry about than a stack of paper flyers and scotch tape. Anybody out there have the graphics talent to pull that off? Offer them for sale on the Spearhead in lots of ten at a time!
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@ Zed
Indeed. Jared The Loner.
Weird.
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Swedish MRA interviewed in MSN:
“Pelle Billing, a M.D. who lectures and writes on gender and men’s issues, worries that Sweden’s rape and domestic violence laws make it difficult for men to get a fair trial.
He cites a quote by the lawyer for Assange’s accusers, who went to the police for advice before deciding to file charges.
“Women who are assaulted don’t always define it as that,” said lawyer Claes Borgstrom, who is the Swedish Social Democratic Party’s spokesman on gender equality. “It’s a big problem in our society and it can be difficult to assess what has happened if you are not a lawyer.”
“So how is man supposed to know what the boundaries are if the women don’t know?” Billing asks. According to him, feminism in Sweden has stopped being about equal rights and has begun to infringe on men’s rights.
So Billing spends little time worrying whether the case against Assange is the result of U.S. pressure on Sweden and instead focuses on whether Swedish courts uphold the presumption of innocence for men accused of rape and domestic violence.
Billing was excoriated in public for discussing his beliefs and the Assange case on a leading current affairs program.”
http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/01/11/5811385-assange-case-has-feminism-gone-too-far
I don’t agree that “feminism in Sweden has stopped being about equal rights and has begun to infringe on men’s rights”. That has been the case for a long time, if feminism was ever about equal rights, even though some women sometimes and in some areas actually take the equal rights/equal obligations view seriously, but I guess few of them want anything to do with feminism.
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“… a Dr. Phil appearance would obviously be a setup …”
Only a very skilled debater could hope for a positive outcome from a rigged interview.
However, keep in mind that cases where a single interview changed public opinion have frequently come from against-the-odds turn arounds of rigged interviews (such as Richard Nixon’s interview with David Frost.)
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