Need Proof of Women’s Legal Supremacy?

by W.F. Price on December 26, 2010

Leon Walker, a Rochester Hills, Michigan man who took a peek at his wife’s Gmail account, is facing trial on felony charges. Mr. Walker faces five years in prison.

His crime? He caught his wife cheating by using her password to look at her Gmail account.

In recent years, judges and prosecutors across the United States have repeatedly upheld the right of women to have sex with men besides their husbands as more sacrosanct than even the right to free speech, probably because adultery is endemic to the legal class in the United States. In fact, men are frequently ordered to pay their “wives” for the activity. Where it used to be a crime for a spouse to commit adultery, it is now a protected activity that prompts court-ordered remuneration, and husbands who discover their wives’ affairs face hard time in prison. However, if a wife spied on her husband’s email no prosecutor in the United States would ever dream of bringing the woman up on charges.

Although prosecuting people for adultery has always been a questionable use of the courts’ time, that courts are involved in enforcing the right to adultery will eventually convince men across the Anglosphere that the legal concept of marriage is broken beyond repair. As judges and prosecutors, aided by their feminist bedmates, make a mockery of their respective professions, they at least give us some idea of what limits to place on their power in the future.

One can only hope that Mr. Walker does not end up with a majority female jury, as American women tend to regard exposure of their sexual peccadillos as a capital crime.

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J. Durden December 26, 2010 at 18:13

And when the shoe’s on the other foot – the woman’s using the man’s password to uncover debauchery – isn’t it always the case that she’s justified and defended?

Moral relativism. Mmmmyea.

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Beltain December 26, 2010 at 18:38

Even if some lawyer managed to use this case and prosecute a woman for the same “crime” as usual the woman criminal would get roughly 1/10th the punishment.

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Rebel December 26, 2010 at 19:07

The double standard appears loud and clear.

Noticed how bachelors hardly suffer the same offenses?
No divorce, no c/s, no parental alieniation.
Commitment through marriage is like being the pig in the breakfast.

A married man appears to be a sitting duck that anyone may shoot at.

Open season year ’round. How much for a pair of ears?

And still some marry?

R.I.P.

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Clarence December 26, 2010 at 19:09

Actually, all this proves is that many prosecutors are slime, but we know that already.

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misterb aka misterbastard December 26, 2010 at 19:24

Cheating is not a right. To those self serving fiends you call women think they’re above the law.

You can’t even get a proper prenuptial agreement anymore. The judge will trashed that regardless.

Remember what I said about people who think that they’re Gods among men. There’s your proof. One of the parts.

The world is a madhouse. Quite literally. You can’t even smile when walking down the street. Otherwise a man would get his ass beaten to pulp.

Feminism is one of the key problems. Moral relativism, Supremacist attitudes in men and women. In the belief of the right to take lives of others. The ideology of killing of what they call useless eaters, mainlyby those of climate change worshippers and feminists. People believing that they are Gods or the superior race, (blacks, white, yellow and Latinos)

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Goblue December 26, 2010 at 19:53

Married men need to follow the examples of the elites and politicians and get a secret offshore account.

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misterb aka misterbastard December 26, 2010 at 19:54

With feminism cometh special rights and double standards. The nail to the marriage’s coffin has been struck. From the looks it, marriage is finished.

if there is a God. He’s probably pissed, a lot more than any man who had been cuckold.

Nowadays married men are stuck with cheating harlots and phony Holy rollers who spread their legs open to any man or woman.

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Ks December 26, 2010 at 19:55

This is happening across many countries(even patriarchal countries) where feminism has reared its ugly head.As years go by feminism proves it’s nothing more than a goddess cult with the judges and prosecutors carrying out its deed like humble servants.

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TFH December 26, 2010 at 20:20

I am glad that stupid social conservatives are getting all constipated that ‘marriage is vanishing’, for reasons that are mysterious to them.

If there is a stupider group in America, I don’t know what it is.

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Rebel December 26, 2010 at 20:38

“If there is a stupider group in America, I don’t know what it is.”

The other “side”.

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alpha December 26, 2010 at 21:01

[[Leon Walker, a Rochester Hills, Michigan man who took a peek at his wife’s Gmail account, is facing trial on felony charges. Mr. Walker faces five years in prison.

His crime? He caught his wife cheating by using her password to look at her Gmail account. ]]

In my workplace, a female coworker got a male co-worker to hack her boyfriend’s email so she could snoop on him. She would daily log in to her boyfriends email to see his mails. She used to do this openly. I cracked a joke about it once. Now I don’t see her doing it. Which means she’s not doing it OPENLY anyway.

I was pretty shocked and disgusted.

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F.M.R December 26, 2010 at 21:26

I always knew it was a crime to read someone elses mail- I had no idea the same protection applied to e-mail!

So I did a little research:

apparently, it isnt 100% official that reading someone elses email is illegal. It is in certain circumstances, and not in others. Questions one should ask in such a situation are:

1. Who owns the computer?
2. How old were the emails?

As far as I can tell from the article, they were still married at the time and so she had not only a half-interest in all his possesions, but on a technicality, the computer was jointly owned. That makes the point moot, as both the accuser and the accused had custody of the computer.

However….

As far as how old the emails are, standard POP3 email accounts download messages from the server onto the local computer. As I understood the original post, he was reading relatively new messages on the computer.

If he did use the password to access the ISP’s email service, to read messages sent to her while the computer was jointly owned, then he did access a computer system without authorization and he broke the law.

Even though we all KNOW the real reason he is facing trial right now is not because he read her email, let this be a lesson to anyone who catches their wife cheating through email, mail, or any form of private communication; NEVER let anyone know this is how you obtained the information.

In fact, its probably best not to mention you know about the infedelity at all, take advantage of the current no-fault divorce system and say you were bored.

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Elusive Wapiti December 26, 2010 at 22:03

“If there is a stupider group in America, I don’t know what it is.”

Male feminists?

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Johnycomelately December 26, 2010 at 22:09

The dude is an idiot for telling her immediately. A friend of a friend found out his wife was cheating, he transfered his rights in a business to a family trust, leveraged the house to the trust and waited for a year. Then he packed her bags and left them out on the porch.

Revenge is a dish served cold.

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TFH December 26, 2010 at 22:23

“If there is a stupider group in America, I don’t know what it is.”

Well, maybe.

But the difference between a male feminist (mangina) and pedestalizing socialcon (white knight) is far, far less than most would think.

The differences are very small indeed. Neither wants to hold women accountable to nearly the same degree that men are.

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greyghost December 26, 2010 at 22:49

Marriage is finished. There is absolutely no reason for a man to marry.
TFH you are spot on with the social conservative types. I personally am politically conservative for the purpose of freedom. But these talking head conservatives on tv and radio and print talking all of that values and honor bullshit and my favorite is the “sanctity of marriage” line. Clueless idiots.

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Seamus the Classicist December 27, 2010 at 00:41

In Antiquity women were accorded the status of Minors (the main exception to this Sparta) menaing they could not own property in their name, transact business, testify in court, or do all the things they do today. As we can see this was all for a very good reason: women lack the necessary compenent of being able to rationally judge that which they are a part of.

It is Romance that has brought us low, the idea of mutual love and respect between men and women is as fallacious as believing that their can be mutual love and respect between an adult and a child. In the past marriage, by all societies and religions, was viewed as having one primary purpose: a joining of a man and woman for the reasons of increasing the numbers of a community and to provide a home for the children.

But once Romance (an emotional component) was added, it opened up a whole world of troubles just like Pandora’s Box. Now for a marraige to be successful a man has to act as the emotional equivalent of his wife, instead as it was in the past she needs to shut up and be loyal. Like children, women will throw fits and rage against the man, however you don’t have to worry about your children “cheating” on you with another parent.

We live in a post-civilized society, hence marriage is meaningless other than a way of entangling the man at the financial and emotional level.

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The Caliph December 27, 2010 at 01:10

Just a thought, guys keep talking about male pill how about libido suppressant? Are there any drugs out there that will suppress a man’s libido so much he would be a functional eunuch (oxymoron i know)?

Imagine never even thinking about sex, means you can without effort treat every hot chick without that mild inner bias to her goodlooks. Possible with game but this time, you wont be feinging dis-interest, with the utlimate aim of getting in her pants.
You would genuinely not be interested in chicks. We might be surprised how many guys would actually go on such pills if they were available.

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Philip December 27, 2010 at 03:43

These days when i read articles like this im reminded of that seen in the film ’300′ where Leonidas turns to his men and screams “Take from them everything, and give to them nothing”. Seems like the whole of Western society has that attitude toward men.

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Migu December 27, 2010 at 04:08

Hmmmm. And some still think men are not merely serfs wrt women.

Oh wait men like me are just emotionally immature and ought to be ostracized.

Hang that man. Now can you open legs for me ladies?

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Traveller December 27, 2010 at 04:40

F.M.R December 26, 2010 at 21:26

About POP3 ans emails. Without proper configuration, depending on the utilized email client, the read emails are stored in local hard disk in a readable way.

This means one does not need a real mail client, but a program capable of interpreting that file format. For Thunderbird, it is just a plain text file. I could read Thunderbird mails just with Notepad, of every account of a PC I have access to (there are addons encrypting this). Even most deleted mails can be recovered.

So email is not a secure way of communication, it is advisable or encrypt it, or send encrypted attachment, or use programs like Skype (encrypted, but goverments trying to make lawas to spy it too).

I agree it was a bad move telling the wife what he did. Anyway, it is not clear how he obtained the password. If she told it to him, it is not a crime use it. Of course, this trial is fake, the real reason is that he dared to show opposition towards anything any female said or did.

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Avenger December 27, 2010 at 05:00

FMR-it’s not a crime to read someone else’s mail. It’s a crime to steal someone else’s mail, like from a mailbox. E-mail is really like reading a postcard and you have to encrypt it if you want privacy(like when you order something online) since anyone working at an ISP can read it. But when you’re married you give up your privacy rights so no matter how much one partner spies on the other it is not a crime.

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LushFun December 27, 2010 at 05:05

When the punishment is more severe than the crime, the crime will meet out more punishment.

Unbelievable turn of events really, and absurd as well. But no one cares about reality and what is right, only the blind obedience to their prerogatives and the mindless paper written by subservient drones.

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A reasonable Man December 27, 2010 at 05:37

This sort of thing actually makes me feel sad. When I was still maturing and growing up I had this notion that women, of all people, were less likely to embrace immorality because it is in their nature to be caring and have regard for the feelings of those around them. Everyone I knew believed it to be so, even my mother, and these ideas were endorsed and accepted by the wider culture. I was raised that way. Doesn’t such sweet sentimentality bring a smile to your face?

Gentlemen, if you don’t already know, it’s all LIES. Life has taught me that women shan’t be faithful if there’s no social correction to enforce a valid ideal of a good woman.

The woman featured in the article is both the instigator and product of a society that is so morally corrupt that it endorses the disintegration of the family while being sufficiently intellectually bankrupt so as not to see the problem therewith.

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nigeles175d December 27, 2010 at 06:06

And for all these years we men have suffered our wives sniffing our dirty shirts for the scent of another woman’s perfume, checking for lipstick marks, rifling through our jacket pockets, our wallets, not to mention our cellphone messages and e-mail accounts. We can’t even glance at another woman without them projecting their adulterous thoughts onto us.

When caught red-handed in the act, the female always seems to detract the real issue of the argument and place the blame on the man.

At what point does it become illegal to monitor your child’s internet activity in order to protect them? If you found a paedophile “grooming” your child’s social network account, could they sue you for some crime? I understand there are police acting as “honey-traps” for this very purpose.

I can believe there may be some legal technicality in protecting the use of password-protected accounts, but I am sure it is never applied when a woman hacks her man’s account. Then the focus is not on the hacking, but what it is that the man has been found to be doing that is wrong.

During divorce a wife is regularly advised to take into her possession, or to at least photocopy all her husband’s financial paperwork. Why is that not considered a crime?

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Lara December 27, 2010 at 06:53

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Aharon December 27, 2010 at 06:57

“Married men need to follow the examples of the elites and politicians and get a secret offshore account.”

Be careful with that too as foreign banks and governments may ‘change’ and not be friendly to American men. One option is to quietly and anonymously buy physical gold and silver using cash and then hide it somewhere secure. There is an expression: ‘if you don’t hold it then you don’t own it’.

I am so glad that I never married or helped a woman get pregnant.

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Lovekraft December 27, 2010 at 07:20

Seems to be the logical progression of No-Fault divorce, which removed accountability from women. In the past, I understood a marriage to be a merging whereby secrets are not kept and should there be deceit, it would be grounds for divorce. So here we are, further encouraging deceit.

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Migu December 27, 2010 at 08:07

Women do have to be careful about revealing our sexual peccadilloes, though, since it can easily make us look bad. That is why a gentlemen should never kiss and tell, because our reputation is on the line.

Whoever is making that list, don’t forget this beauty.

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mgtow December 27, 2010 at 08:24

The law is only as powerful as the extent in which you allow it to affect you.

Had Mr Walker:

1) Avoided marriage
2) Avoided cohabitation
3) Avoided sharing a computer with any woman
4) Stopped caring about a woman’s dick count – it’s merely a statistic, not a tragedy

…none of this would have happened.

Anyway, I doubt this man actively hacked into his wife’s Gmail account. It’s probably on a shared computer, and she had set the browser to remember her login credentials. Or even if he were snooping around, she was using a password that’s easily guessed, and most likely scribbled on a Post-it note nearby.

If you can’t prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he *hacked* into the account, then the case should be thrown out without a bat of an eyelid. Not only did the court failed to do so, it contemplates five years.

This story really tells a lot about the shit this man was enduring. Imagine: you just found out your wife has cheated. Not only did she not say a word of apology, she got furious that you’re snooping around invading her privacy. In addition, she hires some shark lawyers to screw you over in court.

Think. Think what Mr Walker had been going through in his marriage.

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greyghost December 27, 2010 at 08:31

mgtow you are write on that. It is amazing to see how women like this guys wife actually manage to get married. We have our work cut out for us letting the men of the west know to avoid and punish these women with indifference.

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greyghost December 27, 2010 at 08:38

Women do have to be careful about revealing our sexual peccadilloes, though, since it can easily make us look bad. That is why a gentlemen should never kiss and tell, because our reputation is on the line.

Whoever is making that list, don’t forget this beauty.

Yeah, I saw that too. Welmer had mentioned a few articles ago about a woman revealed list. This Lara here seems to have a way of topping her last outrage,jaw dropper,” did I read that right” , “goddamn bitch”,WTF, etc. etc.
I sure hope to god Welmer doesn’t find a story about a women eating her child. Our Lara will most likely post up a recipe or bring up some shit about the health benefits for nursing mothers.

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slwerner December 27, 2010 at 08:42

mgtow – “In addition, she hires some shark lawyers to screw you over in court.”

In that he is facing criminal charges, we know that she also went to the police to file a complaint against him. Neither her divorce lawyers nor civil litigators could file such charges against him; nor could either the (Anti-)Family Courts nor Civil Courts try him on felony charges. A criminal matter can only come from law enforcement charging him with a crime.

This one gets even better when you follow the links back. Here’s the caption from the photo of Mr Walker

“Leon Walker of Rochester Hills is charged with unlawfully reading his then-wife’s e-mail, which showed she was having an affair with her second husband, who once had been arrested for beating her in front of her son. Walker says he gave the e-mails to her first husband, the child’s father, to protect the boy. “I was doing what I had to do,” he said. (KIMBERLY P. MITCHELL/Detroit Free Press)”

True to (modern western woman) form, she still loves the bad-assed alpha male who used to best her. Isn’t that just special?

Note to men – do not sign up to be the third husband of a single mother, who’s last husband beat her.

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Fabron December 27, 2010 at 08:42

This case caught my eye and I’ve spent the past hour reading whatever I could find online. There’s more to the story, of course, and it involves child custody, child endangerment, and a hint that the prosecutor is going after the accused for reasons unrelated to reading the wife’s email.

There’s a photo in the Detroit Free Press, picked up by other news organizations. Leon Walker, an African-American, is a bright looking guy and someone I would instinctively trust. In the photo, he is standing by a child’s swing set in what looks to be a nice, middle class home.

Leon is Clara Walker’s third husband. Despite the news reports, it appears that proving adultery was not his purpose in checking Clara’s email. Rather, he wanted to know the whereabouts and safety of the child by Clara’s first husband. The second husband was once arrested for beating her in front of her small son. Leon showed the e-mail to that son’s father, Clara’s first husband, who filed an emergency motion to obtain custody.

“I was doing what I had to do,” Leon told reporters. “We’re talking about putting a child in danger.”

In a voice mail to the Detroit Free Press, Oakland County prosecutor Jessica Cooper called Walker a skilled “hacker” who used his wife’s e-mail “in a contentious way.” The prosecutor offered nothing about Leon’s past that would prove he is a “hacker”. It was not in news reports, but an anonymous commenter who is a co-worker of Leon, said he works as a computer technician for Oakland County, the same county for which the prosecutor works.

Prosecutor Cooper on her official government website describes herself as “a pioneer in the world of women in the law.”

Several commenters on the Free Press site have raised an interesting issue about selective prosecution. It appears that adultery is still on the books as a felony in Michigan, although rarely enforced.

A decade ago when she was a judge, Jessica Cooper said the following to Dr. Jack Kevorkian during sentencing: “No one, sir, is above the law. No one.” The obvious question here is whether that would apply to Jessica Cooper herself.

Here’s the Detroit Free Press article with photo of Leon:

http://tinyurl.com/26q2ex5

I am quite sympathetic with Leon Walker, but I suggest he get some counseling and advice before getting married again.

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Snark December 27, 2010 at 08:44

Re: the Lara quote.

She is like so many women who believe that if you tell a lie enough times, it becomes truth.

Or rather: they do not care in the slightest about truth, only about appearances, and will spin endless webs of lies in that pursuit …

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TFH December 27, 2010 at 08:45

Lara just admitted to cheating on her husband.

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greyghost December 27, 2010 at 08:59

Outstanding work Fabron. Lean is a man that reallt needs to be on the spearhead reading and learning. I would love for him to write an article about his train of thought in getting involved with this woman in the first place. I’m sure if he was even aware of the mens blogs he may have made different decisions.
I also hope this guy reminds the DA that adultry is a crime and presses charges just to see what the DA does.

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Keyster December 27, 2010 at 09:11

The modern man today who commits to marriage must either be leading a very cloistered life or in some state of denial.

Let’s not forget though that women are extremely shrewd seductresses; (it’s always other women doing that to other men). They lure you in with sweetness of flesh, you bite the apple and become mesmerized into a hypnotic state of being. You’re endorphins are firing on all cylinders. You’re blind to everything because you’re high on the after-effects sexual pleasure brings. Everything SEEMS so perfect. But you’re not thinking clearly yet somehow, she’s thinking more clearly than she ever has. She knows exactly what she’s doing.

The wise ancients knew of all these things and set their societies up accordingly. Controls were put in place. Fifty years of feminism destroyed five thousand years of wisdom. Hold outs like the Taliban fight to keep these controls over females. That’s who we’re shooting at. How they treat their females seems harsh to us now, because we’re indocrinated too. But those fellas know what they’re doing.

The society that let’s it’s females run amok, equal to males, will pay. Their moral character is innately inferior and corruptable, because of the sexual power they hold over men.

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Chris December 27, 2010 at 09:13

Soon it will get to the point where a woman can murder a man in cold blood and actual blame him and convince others she was the victim…….oh, wait.

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Höllenhund December 27, 2010 at 09:17

I’ve never heard of that. Women do have to be careful about revealing our sexual peccadilloes, though, since it can easily make us look bad. That is why a gentlemen should never kiss and tell, because our reputation is on the line.

Women like you are hardly deserving of either gentlemen or the reputation you describe.

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Keyster December 27, 2010 at 09:29

It seems if you can’t convince the enlightened fellows that comment here to ignore the lone female looking for attention, you’ll never convince men in general to avoid marriage either.

Proof, we just can’t help ourselves can we? No matter how hard we might try the temptress lures us into her trap. We’ll have to be mercifully tied to the mast to stay clear of the rocks, before we can see clearly again. We can’t help ourselves respond to the siren’s song. Or can we?

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Aharon December 27, 2010 at 09:29

I think Lara posts here since this is the only place she can get a reaction out of men and have attention ‘paid’ to her.

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slwerner December 27, 2010 at 09:36

I think Lara posts here since this is the only place she can get a reaction out of men and have attention ‘paid’ to her.

I’m beginning to wonder if Lara isn’t simply the invention of someone who’s intention is to make women look bad (and the men who post here appear to be “geniuses”, by comparison).

I cannot imagine any woman intentionally posting nothing but trite inanities, which serve only to make herself look like such a clueless idiot, and never add anything of substance to the discussion/debate.

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slwerner December 27, 2010 at 09:37

Oops! Failed to attribute the quote in my previous post to Aharon

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greyghost December 27, 2010 at 09:53

As long as we continue on topic and don’t turn this in to a 250 post debate over some comment a female ass made I think we can endure.

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slwerner December 27, 2010 at 09:53

greyghost – “I would love for him to write an article about his train of thought in getting involved with this woman in the first place.”

Leon Walker appears to be the standard sort of “nice guy”, who believed himself to be acting heroically in accepting a twice divorced single mother who’d come out of an abusive relationship. I’d bet he likely received plenty of public accolades from other women and manginas (particularly those who were members of the clergy with whom he might have had contact).

He must have felt like the hero as he said his vows to her. It’s a role tailor-made for female fantasy – the white knight who sweeps in to save the day for a wayward woman. Finally, the right man to get her back on the right track and provide for her and her child. The Social Conservative types just eat this sort of sh*t up.

The life lessons of the Leon Walkers of the world need to be highlighted, not to further disgrace them, but rather so that young men will gain expose to the other side of the female-centric fantasies laid out to ensnare them in to believe that if they too come to the rescue of a woman, they will be loved and adored. They need to see the reality that such men are only “heroes” until they say “I do”; at which point they magically transform into beta chumps who just got played.

I’m certain that there is no research to bear this out, but of every story where the “right guy” came along to straighten out a woman, and a long happy marriage ensued, there are likely a dozen where the outcomes were more like what Leon Walker experienced. Just my guess.

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Rebel December 27, 2010 at 10:05

slwerner December 27, 2010 at 09:36
I think Lara posts here since this is the only place she can get a reaction out of men and have attention ‘paid’ to her.

I’m beginning to wonder if Lara isn’t simply the invention of someone who’s intention is to make women look bad (and the men who post here appear to be “geniuses”, by comparison).

I cannot imagine any woman intentionally posting nothing but trite inanities, which serve only to make herself look like such a clueless idiot, and never add anything of substance to the discussion/debate.

Are you a mind reader?? (LOL!!!)

I was going to post much the same comments that you did.

Slowly, I have come to the conclusion that Lara is a man disguised as a woman.
Lara is busted!

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greyghost December 27, 2010 at 10:15

You know slwerner that would be awesome if we can get the 2 and 2 together. It would be awesome to get a guy from a MSM article that makes a post on a mens blog and then actually do an “interview” of sorts to speak to the guy. Not to beat him up with the mangina whiteknight talk but to really show the man his honor and kindness are misdirected in this world. I love men like this guy ,we are all men like this guy. That is why we are here and he needs to be here too. Very interesting story, this guy was trying to take care of a single mom and trying to help a child and now felony charges and he never laid a finger on any body. Last big time I saw this was that San Diego Chargers linebacker keeping that drunk as Tila Tequila from driving off drunk and got himself arrested for kidknapping.

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duke December 27, 2010 at 10:16

I’d like to see most divorce lawyers and family court judges hanging from the nearest tree.

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TFH December 27, 2010 at 10:29

I’m beginning to wonder if Lara isn’t simply the invention of someone who’s intention is to make women look bad

I have wondered this many times. The reason is that Lara answers questions directly even if the answer will make women look bad, which no woman will do.

In such a case, the man playing Lara is doing a superb acting job.

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Snark December 27, 2010 at 10:34

I cannot imagine any woman intentionally posting nothing but trite inanities, which serve only to make herself look like such a clueless idiot, and never add anything of substance to the discussion/debate.

Well of course it’s not intentional.

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Robert December 27, 2010 at 10:38

Fabron December 27, 2010 at 08:42

“Prosecutor Cooper on her official government website describes herself as “a pioneer in the world of women in the law.”

Guess the ditz never heard of the radical feminist lawyer (?) Catherine McKinnon.

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Robert December 27, 2010 at 10:38

I*

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Robert December 27, 2010 at 10:41

Chris December 27, 2010 at 09:13
Soon it will get to the point where a woman can murder a man in cold blood and actual blame him and convince others she was the victim…….oh, wait.

Good call! A name; Mary Winkler

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crypter27 December 27, 2010 at 10:48

This only reinforces my resulve not to get married,this injustice can’t last forever & what goes around comes around when the time is right my brothers we will go to N.O.W headquarters. And burn it down & any feminist thats left standing!

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F.M.R December 27, 2010 at 10:58

Avenger

FMR-it’s not a crime to read someone else’s mail. It’s a crime to steal someone else’s mail, like from a mailbox. E-mail is really like reading a postcard and you have to encrypt it if you want privacy(like when you order something online) since anyone working at an ISP can read it. But when you’re married you give up your privacy rights so no matter how much one partner spies on the other it is not a crime.

In a sane world, this would be exactly right. But the world of law and lawyers has long since lost its sanity.

As far as the reading/stealing distinction goes, reading someone elses email without their permission is essentially stealing it under current laws, as you are accessing a computer system you have no permission to.

A lawyer could make a solid case for reading a partner’s email being legal or illegal, especially since the situation with email is far more complex than mail, that much is true; but we already know which side would win in a court- whichever the woman is on.

Thats why its vital not to mention any form of private communication, if you find out your partner is cheating on you through email, texts, or what have you- just go for a classic no-fault ‘I was bored’ after youve done what one responder said and put everything you can in a trust.

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crypter27 December 27, 2010 at 10:58

I’d like to see most divorce lawyers and family court judges hanging from the nearest tree. Give it time its coming!

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Robert December 27, 2010 at 10:59

crypter27 December 27, 2010 at 10:48
This only reinforces my resulve not to get married,this injustice can’t last forever & what goes around comes around when the time is right my brothers we will go to N.O.W headquarters. And burn it down & any feminist thats left standing!

Be careful VAWA (the violence against women/womyn act) is comming up for reauthorization. Let Justice and Karma take their courses. Karma is a very angry and unbiased momma who has lots of babies and who has seen the sufferings and injustices commited and caused by feminism. Feminists can’t shame her or touch her.

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slwerner December 27, 2010 at 11:22

I had previously remarked: “I’m certain that there is no research to bear this out, but of every story where the “right guy” came along to straighten out a woman, and a long happy marriage ensued, there are likely a dozen where the outcomes were more like what Leon Walker experienced. Just my guess.”

As if to help bolster my point, (as if on cue), I found this just posted on Paul Elam’s A Voice For Men:

http://www.avoiceformen.com/2010/12/27/for-the-benefit-of-newcomers-a-review-of-some-basics/#comment-11106

…As I was saying…

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sharp December 27, 2010 at 11:35

If Lara is a man pretending to be a woman I wouldn’t be surprised. Pretty obvious that the person isn’t sincere in any case. I don’t want to backseat mod but if she/he was just banned already nobody would be disappointed.

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misterb aka misterbastard December 27, 2010 at 11:41

One of the reasons why MRM is lagging, is due to feminist men and homosexual men pushing their own agendas. Collaborating with the enemy, rather working a common ground

There’s no such thing as gay masculinity. Only masculinity exists. Pure and simple.
Only gays, idiots and feminized bastards believe that there is such nonsense. A feminized man knows nothing about masculinity. Men who are hyper-masculine are trying too hard.

You do understand that there’s no such thing as gay masculinity. Only masculinity.

Why is it that other men feel that they have to act like thugs and douche bags?

One of the traits of being men is to hold each other in high standards. In addition to his strength and his reasoning.

The struggle to retain masculinity rages on.

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A Lonely Dad December 27, 2010 at 12:36

A man needs a woman like a fish needs a frying pan!!!

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Bob Smith December 27, 2010 at 12:43

The reason is that Lara answers questions directly even if the answer will make women look bad, which no woman will do.

Haven’t you ever read a Feministing discussion thread? Plenty of women posting insanely disgusting and sexist opinions without a care in the world that it might make women look bad. They are so secure in female supremacy they don’t believe in concepts like “collateral damage” and “blowback”.

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Retrenched December 27, 2010 at 13:35

Most of the Freeper comments on this story are actually very good.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2647910/posts

And this from Free Republic, the home of pedestalizing socon white knights who believe that women are perfect holy angels who can do no wrong.

Maybe the tide is turning after all.

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misterb aka misterbastard December 27, 2010 at 14:24

Feminism have destroyed many things. It destroyed cultures, arts and marriage.

With feminism cometh forth oppressive laws. In Canada, laws are required to register your rifle or firearm every year.

Feminists have meddled in the affairs of first nations people. The femonutzis have turn every place into a hell hole.

Another friend of mine from the States, warn me about women, mainly their dark nature. And she even agreed that the laws are repressive in Canada.

Anyways in Canada, women, homosexuals, Jews, Muslims, Black people, illegal immigrants, transsexuals, pedophiles, murderous creep and all other hoodlums are protected by law.
if you’re a white man or a aboriginal man you don’t have a luxury for the law to side with you. In loose translation, whether you’re white or aboriginal you have no rights as a father and rights of being husband or common law banging friend.
Heterosexual men have no rights. If that doesn’t piss you off I don’t know what will.

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crypter27 December 27, 2010 at 16:37

Robert I’m referring to a near future of societal collapse very similaur to the Soviet Union & there will be a time of kaos where law & order is no more. And in this time of kaos,we will have our revenge! The goverment is going broke, its only a matter of time.

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Watertiger December 27, 2010 at 18:06

She’s just pissed that hubby #1 is trying to get his son back! She also knows she has a real good chance of losing the boy because of her stupid behavior. She can’t take revenge on Hubby #1 (because he’ll SURELY get the lad)
She can’t take revenge on Hubby#2 (because he’ll beat her up again)
Poor Hubby #3 is all that’s left.

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Binxton December 27, 2010 at 19:21

Bob Smith December 27, 2010 at 12:43

Haven’t you ever read a Feministing discussion thread? Plenty of women posting insanely disgusting and sexist opinions without a care in the world that it might make women look bad. They are so secure in female supremacy they don’t believe in concepts like “collateral damage” and “blowback”.

You cannot expect women to be other than their natural selves. They are not men, and do not see anything wrong with their behavior, because they can’t.

At their core, women are emotional, self-centered reproducers. They lack both a firm grasp of logical reasoning, and a capacity for perspective and objective principles. They therefore neither understand nor behave with morals or virtues, independent of male supervision.

Once you understand this basic nature of women, it becomes obvious that liberalizing society’s laws to accommodate women’s desire to be free and independent was a catastrophic mistake. The traditional controls that society got rid of, in the name of women’s freedom and choice, were necessary to rein in women’s worst behaviors and tendencies.

It should NOT be society’s obligation to provide an environment that allows women to maximize their choices and freedoms. On the other hand, it SHOULD be society’s obligation to optimize conditions to induce qualities of loyalty and devotion in women towards men, leading to the bearing of lots of offspring.

Ultimately, women are not meant to be free and independent — at least not to the same extent as men. They are meant to reproduce for the perpetuation of the species and society. And if we want our women to become better human beings as well as do what nature intended, then we men have to realize this: that controls and restraints must be re-imposed on female behavior, otherwise women will destroy their relationships with men, leading to the destruction of their families and eventually society.

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Nemo December 27, 2010 at 20:13

If she shot him dead in front of multiple witnesses, she’d probably get less than five years.

Heck, if she claims “abuse”, she has a good chance of getting nothing more than probation for killing her own husband.

Michael Vick served more time for killing his dogs than Mary Winkler served for killing her sleeping husband with a shotgun.

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The Caliph December 27, 2010 at 21:22

We keep talking about female solipsism, but what kind of right thinking guy shacks up with a woman twice divorced? What he thinks he’s a special snowflake and is different from the other 2 guys who are less of men than him?

Didn’t he ever stop to ask the question how the fuck cant this sweet angel manage to hold on to 2 previous husbands? Not to mention the men she dated inbetween the 1st and 2nd husband and the men she dated after second husband and him ?

Lets not forget she most likely dated other men before marrying husband number one and she couldn’t hold on to them in the first place which is why she eventually met 1st husband.

Sorry but this idiot had it coming.

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sestamibi December 27, 2010 at 22:07

I kind of guessed right off the bat that Leon Walker was black. Black men by far suffer the most from the cuntified USA.

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Robert December 27, 2010 at 22:35

crypter27 December 27, 2010 at 16:37
Robert I’m referring to a near future of societal collapse very similaur to the Soviet Union & there will be a time of kaos where law & order is no more. And in this time of kaos,we will have our revenge! The goverment is going broke, its only a matter of time.

I understand but, let surprises be surprises.

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Troll King December 27, 2010 at 23:24

OT but I saw this blog on a feminist site, feministe I think.

Check it out.

http://boycottamericanwomen.blogspot.com/

Marriage is retirement for women. The wedding is her victory lap. The real question is how to structure your life with this new knowledge. I find that more difficult than morning the death of marriage. What do us single and never married young guys do now that marriage is out of the picture. On one hand it seems like the world is mine but on the other most things I would have pursued earlier were related to one day finally finding a ‘good’ girl to settle down with. Mainly we need a redefinition of maleness that is not tied to being a father or husband or boyfriend or player. On one hand I dont have to work anywhere near as hard or long cause I don’t have anyone to impress. This isn’t such a good thing though, it’s kinda depressing to be honest. Men tend to define themselves based on their job and place in society as a default. Not only that but men have always been defined by culture in relation to women, either how we sacrificed for them(husbands, fathers, warriors) or how they want to define us for us by projecting their sexuality onto men as a group(the whole ideo of maleness as a number of notches on the bedpost). Now because of the genderwars started by feminists men have no road to travel and even if we do we lack a map and compass for our journey, even more we lack any sort of safety net. This isn’t bad for women cause for all they know they get to define themselves separately from men for the first time in history and even more they have the government and all of society helping them along their path. Men have none of that. One of the more interesting things is how women seem to be dependent by nature on men. Anywhere men lead women will follow, maybe not all of them but a chunk will. It seems to me though that the only men creating and leading culture are going backwards and creating more and more subcutlures that may or may not effect the culture at large. IDK. Im starting to ramble so good article.

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DevilDog December 27, 2010 at 23:40

Hold on, divorced 2 times, has a kid…Talk about emotional baggage, mental baggage. That Woman is damaged goods. I feel bad for Leon getting fucked, but that’s what happens when you deal with these damaged females. Fuck all the bullshit, 3 husbands, a kid, and no stability to create a family structure? That bitch is dysfunctional and damaged. I bet she was raised by a single mother.

I would never get involved with a Woman who has kids or has been divorced in the past, no thanks.

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Lara's Bean December 28, 2010 at 01:00

One at a time, boys.

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Porky D. December 28, 2010 at 02:14
Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) December 28, 2010 at 05:04

Interestingly, I picked up my exs password on hotmail and used it to review her emails to her lawyers. It’s not illegal. It’s not even unlawful.

If you men would just learn the law and how the legal system works you might be able to help men like this. Instead. What do you do? You whine like children about how ‘badly’ he’s treated at the hands of a bunch of satanic criminals known as the ‘legal fraternity’. Whimps. You deserve to be slaves.

The more I read being printed by the ‘MRA’ area the more I agree with Padre Illuminati that men in the MRA are not ME N. They are ‘men’. Males over the age of 18 who are still children because they won’t even stand up for their own right to freedom and defend the right to freedom of the man next to them.

When are the MEN in the MRA area actually going to make themselves known?

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Loris December 28, 2010 at 13:42

I heard this on the news this morning and my jaw sagged. Apparently, the idiot woman kept her email password, among others, written down in a notebook on her desk. She didn’t even have the (minimal) brains needed to open another email account for her cheating. Looking at a password written down in a book is hardly “hacking.”

I was still getting warmed up about how wrong this poor guy’s arrest was when my husband, who does IT himself, remarked that the luddite legal system is going to throw the book at him because computers are inherently scary to the older generation/non-technical.

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blah December 28, 2010 at 15:28

“The more I read being printed by the ‘MRA’ area the more I agree with Padre Illuminati that men in the MRA are not ME N. They are ‘men’. Males over the age of 18 who are still children because they won’t even stand up for their own right to freedom and defend the right to freedom of the man next to them.

When are the MEN in the MRA area actually going to make themselves known?”

So, basically, what you’re saying is that the Real Men need to Man Up? Who the fuck are you to demand that I defend you just because you have a penis? That sounds like the sort of gender solidarity bullshit that gets endlessly rehashed at sites like feministing.

Here’s an idea for you- Man Up, yourself, and defend your own right to freedom. I realize that this tends to get overlooked a lot on these sorts of blogs, but there actually are some real douchebag men out there, who deserve every bit of the contempt more commonly aimed at your average feminist in the MRM. Owning a dick doesn’t entitle you to my respect, much less my time and energy.

Maybe you could go post that nonsense over at DailyKos, Peter, they love that collectivist “it’s your duty to go die in a hole in the mud to defend MY interests” claptrap.

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JFP December 28, 2010 at 15:42

“Women do have to be careful about revealing our sexual peccadilloes, though, since it can easily make us look bad. That is why a gentlemen should never kiss and tell, because our reputation is on the line.”

Hahahah. Yes, and women are always allowed to kiss and tell about their private lives. Her social circle knows all about hubby’s interests and especially failings in bed. Sugar, you have to be a lady for me to be a gentleman. You want a good reputation? GOLDEN RULE DARLIN.. live it.

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PeterTheGreat December 28, 2010 at 17:11

I asked a friend who does forensic computer work about this case. Here is his answer:

Anytime you leave the physical boundaries of the computer, you are engaging in a crime under current law. If her email had been stored on the computer or if he had hired me it would have been fair game to find the screen shots of the viewed emails.

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A Lonely Dad December 30, 2010 at 05:05

You can always tell when “your dearest” is prime to off you. It starts with the nightly taking of a number 2 and coming to bed without a shower and then falls into an endless story line of made up faults and wrongs that have not a sliver of truth to them. Next comes the alienation of your children, family and friends. Next is the knock at the door with the cops and the restraining order. It is best to pick up on the first signs and gather up all your money and papers, personal items, and then be first to file. Of course after documented her many indescretions in a log book for use later!!!

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Anonymous age 68 December 30, 2010 at 11:25

On libido suppression, the author of the book MANHOOD REDUX in the 80′s said when he needed libido suppression he visualized Gloria Steinem until the urges went away.

He said he did not visualize Betty Freidan because he only wanted to suppress his libido, not do permanent damage.

On the question of marrying women with kids, I have strong feelings. My step-daughter is by far the best thing that ever happened to me in my life.

However, though I supplied no-fee counseling to more than 1,600 divorced men between 1984 and 1993, I never encountered another man, not one, who married a woman with kids who found it to be anything but absolute disaster. Up to and including false sex abuse charges, and stupidly adopting the little darlings resulting in being ordered to pay child support after she pulled the trigger. DON’T DO IT!

DON’T DO IT!!!!

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