Even “I’m sorry” Is Too Much to Give a Man Falsely Accused of Rape

by pierceharlan on December 21, 2010

Remember John Keogh? Mr. Keogh was a 23-year-old paranoid schizophrenic who was accused of indecently assaulting another hospital patient last year. An investigation was launched, but on July 4, 2009, after interviewing the young man, police dropped the case, withdrew all charges, and immediately informed the complainant. The trouble was, they didn’t bother to inform Mr. Keogh, who was extremely upset about the allegation. On July 7, he hanged himself with a pair of shoelaces. In the UK, “victims” have the right to be told when a case is dropped, suspects don’t.

Remember 19-year-old Cory Headen? Last year, two teenage girls lied to another 19-year-old man that Mr. Headen had raped one of them, so the man broke into Mr. Headen’s home and beat him to death with a baseball bat while he was sleeping.

How about Sumbo Owoiya? A 15-year-old girl falsely told her boyfriend that Mr. Owoiya, 18, raped her. The girl, the boyfriend, and another man then drove to the innocent youth’s apartment. While Mr. Owoiya was looking through a peep hole, the other man shot him to death through the door. The boyfriend was sentenced to seven years imprisonment, but the girl was given a suspended sentence.

And John Chalmers, a 47-year-old prominent businessman, suffered devastating brain injuries in a vicious attack after he was wrongly suspected of raping one of his workers. So terrible was the beating that Mr. Chalmers has had to “learn everything again.”

I could go on and on and on. Once unleashed, a rape lie can destroy lives in sudden, unpredictable ways. We could literally write a book about the horrors suffered by men and boys falsely accused of rape, which we chronicle daily at False Rape Society. Victims of rape lies frequently lose their jobs, their friends, their life savings, their businesses, and pretty much anything else important to them.  As shown by the cases cited above, the potential harm to victims of false rape accusations literally knows no bounds.

False rape accusers: Therapy preferred over charges

In contrast, the punishment allowed to their false accusers is always extremely limited. Typically, they aren’t charged at all, and when they are charged, it’s customary to ask that no custodial sentence be given. That request is frequently granted. Dr. Kim McGregor, a well-known authority on sexual assault, recommends “some form of therapeutic intervention rather than charging them” because, she said, “someone need[s] to be ‘pretty distressed’ to make a false allegation of sexual assault.” If false accusers are charged, they often serve less jail time than their victims served after being falsely accused. The statutory schemes in all or virtually all states severely limit the maximum sentences allowed for false rape reporting, often ranging from less than a year to two years.

With the explosion in rape reforms over the past thirty years, we have handed women and girls unprecedented power to see to it that their rapists are charged and convicted. The problem is, we never considered what we should do if they abuse that power with rape lies.

Our jurisprudence accepts the notion that, generally, the more serious a crime harms an innocent person, the more severe the sentencing should be. Given the extreme harm possible to men falsely accused of rape, and given the de minimis sentences given to false accusers, the sentencing maximums are an affront to justice. Nevertheless, it is extremely unlikely, given the powerful feminist lobby, that the sentencing maximums for false rape reporting will be extended in the foreseeable future.

Given that, what can we do to bring at least partial restoration to falsely accused men? One of the principal harms suffered by men falsely accused of rape is the injury to their reputations. While it’s impossible to restore a man’s good name after he’s been branded a rapist in America’s leading dailies, is it too much to ask the false accuser to run an apology ad? Apparently, it is. Apparently it’s a punitive humiliation, a “scarlet letter,” and cruel and unusual punishment.

Why not a public apology?

In 2007, Angela Schmidt, a former teacher, was given a special form of accelerated rehabilitation probation for falsely reporting that a colleague had raped her. Under the terms of this probation, the charges would be dropped if the probation was successfully completed.

A prosecutor requested that the sentencing judge order Schmidt to run a newspaper ad saying she falsely accused her colleague of rape. The prosecutor argued: “Anyone who wrongly accuses someone of a crime should be on notice to the public. Any other potential victims need to be aware of this woman.”

Schmidt’s lawyer said the ad proposal reminded him of “pilgrims and stockade in front of the town square.” He called it a “humiliation,” and noted that it would violate Schmidt’s right against self-incrimination. The court refused to force Ms. Schmidt to run the ad.

But one judge did have the courage to order apology ads for a false rape claim, in a case that attracted national attention.

In September 1988, Elizabeth Irene Richardson, 24, a central Nebraska meat packing worker with three children, falsely accused Gary L. Nitsch, a quiet 43-year-old alfalfa-mill worker and father of two who neither smoke nor drank, of rape in order to get the attention of her long-distance truck driver husband. One night, she ripped her nightgown and called a friend in tears to tell her she’d been raped. The friend called police.

Mr. Nitsch had met Ms. Richardson just once, and only briefly, when he went to her house inquiring about a painting job she had advertised. He never assaulted her. Then, one day, out of the blue, while he was shopping, he was arrested and spent three days in jail before his brother was able to have him released on a $30,000 bond. He was charged with sexual assault. The dumbfounded Mr. Nitsch uttered the same thing many falsely accused men in his position end up saying: “I would just like to know how I was named.”

As a result of the false charge, Mr. Nitsch lost his job and his family was harassed. At school, other children taunted his kids by saying, “Your dad’s a rapist.” His wife no longer liked coming into town to go shopping. His 18-year-old daughter quit high school because of the way she was treated. After Mr. Nitsch was released, he heard the stories circulating about people in the area buying guns and about wives being scared of him.

Ms. Richardson testified at a hearing that Mr. Nitsch raped her, but the case was dropped for lack of strong physical evidence. Ms. Richardson’s lie was discovered after she told friends the accusation was a hoax, and she was convicted of perjury after pleading no contest.

But, of course, Ms. Richardson was not fully responsible for her acts. In words that could be transposed to a thousand other recent false rape cases, Ms. Richardson’s lawyer said: “She was desperate to get [her husband] back and acted very impulsively without giving consideration to the thing, and it kind of snowballed on her.”

Judge John P. Murphy sentenced Ms. Richardson to serve six months in prison, but he didn’t stop there. He also required her to run half-page newspaper ads in all four newspapers, and ten spot announcements on both radio stations, in Dawson County, Nebraska. The apology ads were expected to cost approximately $1,000. Mr. Nitsch was given the right to approve the ads.

The Judge justified the ads: ”You certainly couldn’t force someone to say something they didn’t believe,” he told a reporter, ”but I have allowed her to put it into her own words. I told her the reason. Mr. Nitsch’s brother complained the rape charges were all over the papers, but when he was exonerated nobody hears about it. I told her the only way to get it out was to have her do it.”

But the Nebraska Civil Liberties Union said the advertising requirement could violate three constitutional amendments: the 1st, which guarantees freedom of speech; the 8th, against cruel and unusual punishment, and the 14th, with its guarantee of due process. The NCLU’s executive director said the organization is “concerned about the scarlet letter approach in sentencing.”

Sorry, but “cruel and unusual” punishment is what happened to Gary Nitsch, not to mention John Keogh, Cory Headen, Sumbo Owoiya, and John Chalmers in the cases referenced above. An apology ad would just partly undo the grotesque reputational harm to Mr. Nitsch.  If it caused the criminal some slight embarrassment, that’s a small price to pay to partly correct a monstrous wrong.

Ms. Richardson decided to drop her appeal and just get it over with. So, on a Sunday in 1990, radio listeners in Central Nebraska heard the young woman declare: “I want the public to know these allegations were not true and that I made up the story for personal reasons.” She said she hopes time will heal the damage to the falsely accused man’s reputation.

Mr. Nitsch said he would have preferred a stiffer sentence. So would we all.  But he should take some small consolation in the fact that the woman who tried to randomly destroy his life was forced to stand up in the proverbial town square and publicly declare, “He didn’t do, and I’m sorry I lied!” At least now, any time someone Googles Mr. Nitsch’s name, they will see that she was the criminal, and he was the victim.  That’s a lot more than most victims of false rape claims get.

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Avenger December 21, 2010 at 11:06

She’s sorry she inconveniened them lol Well, at least in NY she was sent to prison for it.

A confessed gold-digger was sentenced in Manhattan to 3 1/2 to seven years today — after apologizing for “inconveniencing” her two sick, elderly victims.

The inconvenience? Cher Thompson, 29, admittedly seduced a seriously disabled 64-year-old Bronx nursing home resident to marry her, cheated on him with an ailing 90-year-old West Village widower, then looted their accounts out of a total $200,000.

“I am sorry I was such an inconvenience to them,” she said during her brief sentencing on charges of scheme to defraud, grand larceny and identity theft, for an unrelated credit card swiping.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/young_geezer_fleecer_sentenced_for_GxHZPvDsWKkDjuyCl8AKiN#ixzz18m9R5521

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Richard December 21, 2010 at 11:08

The rape hysteria bubble (and all the unjust laws that accompany it) will burst along with the misandry bubble (or so I hope)…

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Observer December 21, 2010 at 11:40

Considering that woman’s lie completely and utterly destroyed that man’s reputation as well as the extreme stress it put his family through, those “lies” ought to be treated just like the rape conviction would have been punished. She can say sorry all she wants, but it doesn’t completely clear the cloud of suspicion hanging over him. Should’ve thrown the book at that one!

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anonymous December 21, 2010 at 11:58
Druk December 21, 2010 at 11:59

The 1st and 5th amendment defenses confuse the hell out of me for these cases.
Hasn’t Paul Elam said a few things about how the “right to not self-incriminate” is basically thrown out when men have been ordered to therapy for substance addictions? Not only are they forced to apologize for abuse that likely never happened, but repeatedly and for years.

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F.M.R December 21, 2010 at 12:00

If you were a puritan woman who lied about being raped, you’d be incredibly LUCKY to just get locked in the stockade.

What this amounts to is, a woman lying is O.K and shouldn’t be punished, even if that means “punishing” her by making her tell the truth.

Nevermind the 1st amendment gives leeway against free speech if it’s perjury and defamation of character, I didn’t read that far in.

Nevermind telling the truth and apologizing isn’t “cruel and unusual” anywhere sane. I’d love to see a case of spousal abuse in which making a man apologize for beating his wife gets considered for repeal for being “cruel and unusual”. But that only works for women, so I guess men will have to “suck it up and take it like a man”.

Nevermind that this is what the 14th amendment actually says:

No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law

Due process was given, with the added bonus of no life, liberty, or property taken away.

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Robert December 21, 2010 at 12:01

When women cannot/do not FEEL like falsely accusing men of rape, they falslely accuse men of any assault. Rape/sexual assault are considered to be sexual crimes ( they are interchangeable) but, any fale accusation of assault/violence can do if any woman choooses to cause harm to any man’s life. Assault can be anything that upsets the female. The violence against women act, and all laws patterned after it, give women varying degrees in which to cause harm to the man’s/men’s lives. Murder and rape are more serious than assault(s) but, they are all considered to be violations of VAWA and all laws based on/patterned on this feminist piece of legislation that was created to provide ways to damage/destroy men’s lives. Rape/sexual assaults ( do these,in the “eyes” of the law require DNA evidence for indictment [ pre-conviction] ? Sometimes/ in some places DNA may not be legally required for a conviction ( due to feminist influence and/or chivalry [ feminist gulag; no prosecution neccesary])). ” The victim MUST BE BELIEVED”

I am wholeheartedly outraged at the fact that laws/legislation exist that allows men (and boys) to be arrested, jailed, indicted, convited, sentenced and, imprisoned for crimes that men/boys accused of such, did not commit. Regardless of whatever crime a female claims to be a vitcim of, there is no distinction in the everchanging minds of those who seek to harm/hurt/destroy/end the lives of men and/or boys.

The common denominator ( in feminist eyes/minds) is; you ARE a criminal. Can YOU prove you aren’t by feminist standards?

http://topics.law.cornell.edu/wex/feminist_jurisprudence

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Nextlevel December 21, 2010 at 12:02

But NAWALT, so this is definitely justified.

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Tory December 21, 2010 at 12:02

If I was any one of those men and had suffered what they suffered, I’d be charged with murder, because the woman’s body would soon be found at the bottom of a lake.

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Angelo December 21, 2010 at 12:15

You know, in a lot of ways, making someone admit their wrongdoing publicly on radio and in print hits home more than say a 6 month sentence. I like this particular judgement, it takes the shame from the victim and puts it back on the false accuser.

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Rebel December 21, 2010 at 12:19

This reminds me of that dish (forgot how it’s called) that tastes so delicious when served cold.

(There’s nothing like home cooking.)

Specially for meals served cold.

There was that other thing about an eye and a tooth…

The justice system does not serve men: justice is self-service.
(all you can eat).

Cryptic words? (Nah, just Pee Cee).

Let’s try again, then: You will kick a dog in the teeth until.. the dog chews your foot off.

Do onto others what others do onto you. (plus damage costs).

If someone destroys you, you should naturally destroy him/her.
What else is there to do?

???

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Robert December 21, 2010 at 12:19

All women have been given/empowered ( at great priced) with at least six cards they can play against males;

1. The victim card

2. The gender/sex card

3. The card that ensures that if they are murdered, ” a male MUST have murdered her.

4. The card that ensures that if she is raped/sexually assaulted, the male(s) she accuses, are to be considred as guilty, until/unless they prove themslelves innocent by providing proof “beyond all shadow of doubt”.

5. That in she said/ he said cases, she ( the alleged victim) MUST be believed) IS the victim of some type/kind of assaultive offense [ sexual and/or otherwise] AND the burden of proof is placed squarely in the lap/face of the male(s) she accused of the alleged offence.

6. The ” Why would a woman lie about such a thing” card.

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Herbal Essence December 21, 2010 at 12:42

Salutations to Judge John P. Murphy.

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E. Steven Berkimer December 21, 2010 at 12:57

@Tory,

It’s surprising that doesn’t happen more often. I guess, again, that kind of proves that the people falsely accused weren’t bad people to begin with.

@Robert,

Well stated. On all your posts.

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Opus December 21, 2010 at 13:06

I once had a girlfriend who was responsible for sending a man to prison for a crime which I came to realisemust have been entirely consensual (Her story just did not addup and I knew her and what she liked sexually: the police didn’t). I have an earlier letter from her in which she wrote, ‘you know I’d never want to hurt anyone – least of all my father’. She fabricated the lie to protect her ‘virginal’ repuation (although she was seriously promiscuous) from her ‘adoring’ father, who again I realisae had to be incestuous with her. I wonder if she ever felt one moments remorse. You guys will be glad (as I am) that I dropped her rapido. Had you met her, you or anyone else would have thought , ‘what a likeable respectable young middle-class woman’.

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Robert O'Hara December 21, 2010 at 13:07

It is insane to rationalize that to force someone to issue a public apology for falsely accusing someone of the horrific crime of rape when we post the faces of men delinquent on their child support, for whatever reason, on pizza boxes. Is not the publication of a man’s name after a rape accusation extremely cruel and unusual if the claim is false?
I don’t think it is completely accurate to assume that feminists are behind all of this, rather, our society still clings to this idea that women should be treated like children and shielded from the consequences of their actions. We desperately need to get over this.

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Traveller December 21, 2010 at 13:10

And as usual let us notice in may cases the self justice by women is carried by men, like those in the beginning of the article.

Those stupid men are so desperate to please women they could kill innocent people and risk sentence, while the female false accuser risks nothing.

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Opus December 21, 2010 at 13:20

Other than what I wrote above I have known three women who claimed to have been raped, however, I never believed a word of it, because they seemed to wear their ‘rape’ like a badge of honour. I gained the impression that the sub-text was ‘ you should fancy me as there are guys who fancied me so much they were prepared to rape me’. This is of course half-baked female logic as guys do NOT like to force themselves. I should add not one of the three were in any way fanciable – only fat or ugly girls make false-rape allegations. I wonder why??

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scot December 21, 2010 at 13:34

American law enforcement now do what gender feminists tell them to do.

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Coastal December 21, 2010 at 13:41

Being stupid, I always like to state the obvious: well, hell, maybe these guys were ‘innocent’ in the strict sense of not having committed any actual crimes, but they still bear the corporate resposibility for all those men just like them who had committed actual crimes, so it’s not like they can complain is it?

Meanwhile, as long as there’s one honest woman living on top of a mountain in Tibet NAWALT and what’s more, with sword, oak leaves and gold cluster, no matter how many women have been shown to have lied about rape, each and every accusation needs to be treated as though it was irrefutable fact.

All of which is by of saying that the feminist complaint that juries are unduly sceptical in rape cases is garbage – even more so than usua for theml. Hey, these people just got through telling us that trying to get innocent men thrown in jail is no big thing, but now they’re surprised men are increasingly suspicious of supposed ‘rape victims’? Really? Would be people be more or less likely to trust US dollars if the Treasury Dept announced that printing bills on press in your back yard was just one of those things and retailers should just man up and accept the odd smudged $50 note every now & again?

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Jonathan Mann December 21, 2010 at 13:42

I have enormous sympathy for victims of both false-rape accusations and of actual rape. They’re both terrible and they both often destroy the lives of their victims in ways that most people don’t realize. Its sad that no one has even a fractional degree of sympathy for men that have been falsely accused as compared to how rape victims are deluged with compassion and attention (meanwhile keeping their names and faces anonymous).

Someday soon Righteous Men will have to have a Reckoning with the System that treats them this way. Someday soon false-rape accusers will have to serve years in prison, instead of months in jail, and then they will have to register on a special list in order to let men know that they should not be trusted so that they can stay away from them. Men have as much right to have false-rape accusers register as the life destroying liars that they are, as women have the right to lookup the sex offenders living in their area.

We have to MAKE Them Understand! One way… or the other.

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Keyster December 21, 2010 at 14:11

The degrees to which a woman can control a man with a simple statement that begins with “HE” are:

1) …sexually harrassed me. (said something of a sexual nature that made her uncomfortable)

2)…hit me. (even though her wounds are from him defending himself from her.

3) …raped me. (the ultimate coup de grâce for a woman seeking revenge or attention)

All she has to to do is SAY IT and the feminist HR reps and/or blue gun thugs will come out of the woodwork to protect her as a de facto victim. Female power well exceeds “equal protection under the law” if the accused is male.

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Opus December 21, 2010 at 14:30

The great problem with women is that they are obsessed with sex all the time. I have no less an authority for that view (disbeliever that I am) than that great catholic saint Augustine, who said that for a man sex was a like a volcano which suddenly erupts and slowly subsides, but for a woman it is a constant slow-running stream. Thus, everything you say to a woman is from her point of view charged with something sexual. If therfore you respond positively to what looks like a green light you may be accused of harrasement but equally if the last thing on your mind was sex she may accuse you likewise – and the time they get really annoyed is when you make it clear that even if they were the last person on earth you would not be interested in the; so you are damned if you do and damned if you don’t. Personally these days I try to avoid them- what a terrible indictment it is of our society it is that that should be so.

Political Correctness is Cultural Marxism

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Höllenhund December 21, 2010 at 14:42

The eventual result of all this will be that accusations of rape will be viewed with a large dose of scepticism, which is exactly what women deserve – unless, of course, female rape victims loudly condemn and shun the women who provably filed false rape charges. But I’m not holding my breath.

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Porky D. December 21, 2010 at 14:52

I’ve said it before and i’ll say it again, someone really should set up a site called falserapeaccuser.com on which these women can be named and shamed. There are countries in the world where the legal repercussions for doing so would be zero for the site’s operator, so why is nobody doing this? If the recent outing of the cows helping the fascists get Assange is anything to go by, there are plenty of MRAs who don’t mind publishing such details, so why not a whole site devoted to doing so?

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Anti Idiocy December 21, 2010 at 15:49

Unfortunately, the prohibition against “…unusual punishment” could mean that false rape accusers will never be punished. After all, what could be more unusual than holding false rape accusers accountable for their crimes?
(/sarc)

As for “stockade in front of the town square” for false rape accusers… Hmmm.

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Eric December 21, 2010 at 16:17

What recourse do falsely accused men have in civil court? Hell, O.J. was acquitted of murder but still found guilty in civil court. maybe falsely accused men should start trying to hit these women in the only place they give a shit about…their purses. It may be an uphill battle, but it’s gotta be worth a shot.

Men might even find some unlikely allies in the legal community, since any truly good lawyer has no idealogical principals other than furthering their own interests. They may smell a potentially lucrative industry in pursuing defamation suits on behalf of wrongly accused men.

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Ulysses December 21, 2010 at 16:24

They may smell a potentially lucrative industry in pursuing defamation suits on behalf of wrongly accused men.

It sounds so juicy, but I’ll bet my bacon that if this were to happen, suddenly the femiharpies would take a keen interest in clamping down on frivolous lawsuits. Naturally, a male seeking justice from a female would fit their definition of frivolous.

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W.F. Price December 21, 2010 at 16:25

As for “stockade in front of the town square” for false rape accusers… Hmmm.

-Anti Idiocy

They already put the names and photos of men who are in arrears on child support – for whatever reason – online for the world to see.

Isn’t that “cruel and unusual” punishment?

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trashed December 21, 2010 at 16:55

I backed away from the computer at this point , with shock , horror , and dismay , for right now…a pschological-safty barrier, alarm just kicked in !
I stopped reading , Here…maybe later…

“lives in sudden, unpredictable ways. We could literally write a book about the horrors suffer…”

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Gunn December 21, 2010 at 17:05

I often scratch my head and wonder how the law has been twisted into something that is such a mockery of justice.

Men follow laws that they believe in; for an example of this, ask 100 young people if they smoke pot, and whether they think the law associated with it is just.

By supporting huge injustice, the legal framework is in grave danger; beyond a certain point, the victims of injustice, having nothing more to lose under the system, will act on their emotions. Emotions that have been created and honed over two hundred thousand years of human evolution.

Just like the recent article on restraining orders that pointed out that a piece of paper is no guarantee of safety (if anything, it can provoke the very act it was meant to protect against), it puzzles me that lawmakers and feminists that pursue legal frameworks that unjustly allow women to get away with false allegations don’t realise that they’re playing with fire.

Speaking for myself, it enrages me to see miscarriages of justice like these. If such a miscarriage was to affect me, or god forbid someone close to me that I care for, I’m not sure that it would be possible for me to placidly accept the law as it stands. I marvel that so few men lack the control that I know I lack, and wonder what would happen if we reach a point where men do start to react against their oppressors.

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Porky D. December 21, 2010 at 18:08

Malestrom, it’s a hard call. On the one hand, not being prosecuted makes them more likely to own up, but fearing prosecution would stop them making the false accusation to begin with. My guess is that there would be fewer false accusations if they know they’d cop a couple of years in t he big house.

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duke December 21, 2010 at 18:22

The first time a woman makes a FRA she should five years minimum.I f she does it a second time her tongue gets pulled out.That would solve the problem.

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Ulysses December 21, 2010 at 18:26

Women get far too many slaps on the wrist as it is. They don’t need yet another alternative to real punishment. The same media that wets itself to smear the man will do everything in its power to hide and otherwise ignore the woman’s apology.

I forget which comedy film it was where terrorists were merely banned from flying first class.

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Joeb December 21, 2010 at 19:10

This is one of my hot topic issues , Feminist for ages have contended wrongful doing s with there rights, Women have more right today then even there white male counterpart but for some reason the feminist don’t seem to understand the nature of freedom and independence.

The group they go after May be one of the most discriminated against groups in history : The handicapped. Today if you don’t know the top group with violent Crime s and all crime directed towards them are the Handicapped.The feminist routinely go after these males with violence , rape accusations, divorce scams , Family courts are filled with handicapped males , For one reason . They are easy pickens for corrupted court system and non-profit feminist Groups.

Its a virtual feast on the weakest of are society.V.o.c money is often delegated to these groups, entrepreneurship is gained though moneys from grant. Family courts disregard the rights of the handicapped as if they were less then human. Representation from layers are denied , There is only one plea for a mentally handicapped person . It is guilty but with no knowledge of the crime . There is no such thing as Innocent but, Unable to defend yourself .

America i am ashamed of you all for not taking care of the weakest of your society.What does it say on the statue of liberty ” Give me your poor and weak , So we can let are females torture them and get there rocks off.

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WOW December 21, 2010 at 20:03

The fembots love to beak off about how men are so violent.

Can you imagine the restraint a man has to muster to not kill, to not exert violence on an epic scale, upon being falsely accused of rape.

I cannot envision the horror that I would inflict on my accuser, the police, the judge; or would I simply take my own destroyed life?

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van Rooinek December 21, 2010 at 20:15

I have it from the highest possible authority, that false rape accusers should receive the exact same punishment, that the victim of the accusation would have received if he’d been wrongly convicted:

The judges must make a thorough investigation, and if the witness proves to be a liar, giving false testimony against his brother, then do to him as he intended to do to his brother. You must purge the evil from among you. The rest of the people will hear of this and be afraid, and never again will such an evil thing be done among you. Show no pity: life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot. — Deuteronomy 19:18-21

And all God’s people said, Amen.

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Malestrom December 21, 2010 at 20:22

”Malestrom, it’s a hard call. On the one hand, not being prosecuted makes them more likely to own up, but fearing prosecution would stop them making the false accusation to begin with. My guess is that there would be fewer false accusations if they know they’d cop a couple of years in t he big house.”

Yes, I’d say you’re right about that, it would definately deter false accusers.

It depends on what you think the motivation for the majority of false rape accusations are. I myself believe that most of them boil down to a woman being overly emotional and irrational, as women are prone to be, and lashing out at some man without really thinking it through. That is why I favour the system by which such accusations can be quickly and easily (and publically) withdrawn once the woman calms down.

You may believe that the majority of false rape accusations are deliberate and rationally planned actions taken for calculated personal gain. That’s a reasonable position to take, I can see how you might arrive at it. In that case the deterrant effect of harsh punishment would be a better remedy.

I think stripping accusers of anonymity and making them publically withdraw proven false accusations would achieve most of the desired deterrant effect. As for the rest, well, in my view it is preferable that some lying women get away without punishment if it means sparing many men the horrors of a prolonged legal entanglement with rape charges.

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trashed December 21, 2010 at 21:27

Malestrom December 21, 2010 at 20:22
Said,

“That is why I favour the system by which such accusations can be quickly and easily (and publically) withdrawn once the woman calms down.”

Now if things were done your way, how in the world would all the lawyers have any opportunity to get rich quick and be falsely-”brownie pointed” by their dominatrix judge.
Shame on you for suggesting a corrupt system
the oppurtunity to put a lawyers precious-princess thru law school
Have you no decency or mercy ?
LOL…

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trashed December 21, 2010 at 21:42

Should have read…
Shame on you for suggesting a corrupt system
strong>x the oppurtunity to put a lawyers precious princess thru law school.

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trashed December 21, 2010 at 21:47

! Wtf…happened above ,?
Never mind…
Forgit bout it..

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alpha December 21, 2010 at 21:55

I’ve said it before and i’ll say it again, someone really should set up a site called falserapeaccuser.com on which these women can be named and shamed. There are countries in the world where the legal repercussions for doing so would be zero for the site’s operator, so why is nobody doing this? If the recent outing of the cows helping the fascists get Assange is anything to go by, there are plenty of MRAs who don’t mind publishing such details, so why not a whole site devoted to doing so?

Why does this plan sound like sheer genius to me?oh,because it is.

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John T. December 21, 2010 at 22:35

During my time as a criminal investigator for a Sheriff’s department, I had a great deal of exposure to the complications of rape investigations.
As we were a smaller department, my case load was varied and included everything from property crime to murder and all points in between. During my time in investigations, I was assigned approxiamtely 40 reported rapes. Of those 40, the vast majority were denied prosection for lack of evidence other than the account of the victim. “He said, she said” was rarely sufficient for the prosecuting attorney to proceed with charges. Many of these reported rapes with little evidence all contained similarities. There was usually a 16 to 25 year old victim, a male or males known to her as suspects, and drugs or alcohol. There was usually also an undercurrent of shame either from the circle of friends or parents that seemed to be the motivating factor for making the report. This usually came to light when asked about delays in reporting from the time of the incident taking place. It was hard to make a judgement call in most of those cases as to whether or not it was legit. No witness, no conclusive evidence from a rape kit, and an assumed victim that is lacking total recall or withholds details, makes for a difficult determination. These were the majority.

The rest would fall into two further categories; the outright lie, and the legit rapes. I recall two of the former in particular that were so astoundingly ill concieved allegations that it boggles the mind. In one case, a young woman claimed to have been abducted, taken to a camp in the woods and raped over a period of days by multiple blacks. As you can see, the basic premise raises doubt already as blacks are not known for their love of camping, and would have certainly not been camping in the area indicated. As the case progressed, I was able to establish that this woman had been present at another house during the period she said she was being held captive, and even more damning, I found a video of her walking into a store alone during the same period. Confronted with this she persisted in the lie. As a result of her insistance, I was threatened by her family and they attempted to have me fired. The sheriff was also pressured by a battered womens advocate to remove me from this investigation. Her case was never prosectued, and she was never charged with filing a false report as the prosecuting attorney declined to do so out of fear of pressure from advocates.

The second case was another young women that accused a young man known to her. She was of substantial stature and claimed to have been raped in the back seat of a Mustang…not a convertable. That would be irregularity number one. I contacted the named suspect and he willingly subjected himself for interview. Imagine my surprise when he came in on a walker and apparently suffered from a mild case of spina bifida. Suffice it to say that this one didn’t take long to break down. She was never charged with filing a false report. These two cases stand out the most in my mind but there were several others that were no less false but contained less evidence of the lie. I never saw one prosecuted during my time.

The tragedy of it all brings me to the last group, the legit victims of rape. I can assure you that a true victim is not easily mistaken for something else. Even when physical evidence of ancillary violence is absent to accompany the actual rape, there is still no mistaking it. These women will relive that attack and those same emotions will replay, in chronological order, coinciding with the timeline of the attack. It is a difficult thing to conduct these types of interviews, or it always was for me. I always felt like I was torturing these women by making them go through this again and again. Once is never enough you see. That brings us back full circle to the liars and the wall of activists behind them. Think of a woman dear to you being raped, and know right now that when she goes to report it and is interviewed by an investigator, the assumption is automatically going to be that she is not telling the truth. Simply a matter of playing the percentages and expecting the lie. It has to be that way because of the liars and the power of the rape allegation. I always wondered why feminists didn’t go after the DA to charge the liars as they are the very reason that real victims are treated like shit, from the intitiation of the invsetigation, to the witness stand in the courtroom. But considering the laws of cultures older than ours, it seems apparent that the lie is as old as the rape itself.

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codebuster December 21, 2010 at 23:23

WOW:

The fembots love to beak off about how men are so violent.

This is just fembots projecting. What it says is that women only notice violent, abusive thugs and ignore all the rest. Same with their interpretation of dominant men (workplace, politics, etc). Pure projection. It says more about what they notice and prioritize in men than it does about the nature of men. Anything beyond what they notice and prioritize is invisible to them. Game taps into their solipsism, by enabling men to adopt the labels that women notice.

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Robert in Arabia December 22, 2010 at 01:37
Traveller December 22, 2010 at 02:31

John T. December 21, 2010 at 22:35

“The tragedy of it all brings me to the last group, the legit victims of rape. I can assure you that a true victim is not easily mistaken for something else.”

Well, it seems your post is a bit different from the various account of the cops behavior during domestic violence calls or rape charges. I believe it is because you are a good one, and the big part of the others just want handcuff some poor man on any female whim, it is a no-risk job instead of chasing real criminals.

I would notice, anyway, when you say it is easy to spot a real victim of rape, I believe many of them are not lying because they are convinced to have been raped. There are liars, and women who convinced themselves, in both cases we do not know if a real rape occurred.

Women are so emotive and delusional they can auto-hypnotize so they believe they have been really raped. Maybe they are desperate for money or attention. Or just they are angered and their brain construct from scratch some false memory. At this point, they will behave like a real rape victim, whatever that could be.

I would add, women are so indoctrinated to do everything they want, they just have lost the reality. And they need bigger and bigger dosage of doing stupid things to feel alive. Pratical example: a rich woman walks in the night with a miniskirt and a trasparent shirt, covered in jewels, in a bad neighbourhood, just to mistreat any people she encounters (as they usually do). She can technically be raped, but I would never consider that a real rape.

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morepork December 22, 2010 at 02:43

Malestrom, I would suggest a two tiered response would have the best result. Women who make a false rape complaint, then quickly withdraw it, and admit their lies of their own volition should be given a light, but public punishment.
But if the lie is discovered during the rape investigation before the woman has confessed, they should be punished harshly.

This would have the desired effect of giving false accusers an opportunity to withdraw their complaints quickly, minimising harm to both themselves and the man involved. While the harsh penalties for those that do not confess would receive public attention and act as a deterrent.

From what I have seen, there are two main groups of false accusers. As you mention, overly emotional and irrational “silly little girls”, who are not usually particularly bright. And a second smaller group, the nasty vindictive whores. They’re easy to tell apart, and motive should definitely be considered during sentencing.

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mgtow December 22, 2010 at 03:02

Robert in Arabia = spam troll.

Back to topic: women should read up on the story ‘The Boy Who Cried Wolf’.

If you keep making false rape claims, sooner or later even the police will turn its whiteknight backs on you.

And then, what’chu gonna do when you really get raped and even the staunchest white knights become skeptical? Can’t wait for that to happen.

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Robert December 22, 2010 at 06:58

Gather News Pokes Fun at Abused Man
Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 2010-12-21 17:54.
A blog entry “Gather News Pokes Fun at Abused Man” is here and takes the reader through looking at a blogger’s jocular approach to a news story of a woman setting fire to her boyfriend’s crotch, and a few other examples from a different perspective. What if the target were a woman? Would it still be funny? The conclusion is that, of course, whatever is abuse when done to a woman or child, is also abuse when done to a man. Excerpt:

‘The lighthearted mood of both the story and the comments is even worse… how many people find this as funny simply because the victim was a man? Would it be funny for a man to set his girlfriend’s crotch on fire after an argument? Even though the post makes a few token comments lightly condemning the act (also with an attitude of humor) it sickens me to see this action laughed at. The same would not be occurring if a man had done this to a woman, a parent had done this to an argumentative, disobedient child, or if a human had done the same to a dog for making her angry. Why is it funny just because it happened to a man? What if it were your son, your brother, or one of your friends who was assaulted? Would it be as funny then?’.

http://news.mensactivism.org/node/16088

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978815922

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slwerner December 22, 2010 at 07:17

John T. – “During my time as a criminal investigator for a Sheriff’s department, I had a great deal of exposure to the complications of rape investigations.”

Thank you for posting that. I think some people need to be given some insight into the perspective of Law Enforcement officers. It is often apparent in some discussion threads that a number of men simply believe that all of law enforcement is in willing lock-step with the worst of radical gender-feminism, and that all cops are out to “get” men.

Might I also extend an invitation to you to share your experience and the wisdom you’ve gained at The False Rape Society? I believe that the site could use your unique perspective on the issues related to false rape allegations.

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Keyster December 22, 2010 at 08:42

…the assumption is automatically going to be that she is not telling the truth. Simply a matter of playing the percentages and expecting the lie. It has to be that way because of the liars and the power of the rape allegation.

That’s the issue that Naomi Wolfe is talking about and feminists are shrieking bloody murder over it. False Rape accusations diminish and minimize the real rape cases. This is in the context of the Assange affair. It seems Wolfe hates American secrecy and “brutality” more than she sympathizes with alleged rape victims. The fembots are completely vexed. http://www.democracynow.org/2010/12/21/part_iifeminists_debate_sexual_allegations_against

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Sir_Chancealot December 22, 2010 at 10:01

I say that if a woman falsely claims rape, she should be thrown into a male prison for 30 days, so that she can learn the difference between claiming rape, and actually being raped.

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zed December 22, 2010 at 10:39

I always wondered why feminists didn’t go after the DA to charge the liars as they are the very reason that real victims are treated like shit, from the intitiation of the invsetigation, to the witness stand in the courtroom. But considering the laws of cultures older than ours, it seems apparent that the lie is as old as the rape itself.

I want to echo slwerner’s thanks for your input, John T. The perspectives of someone who has been directly involved with investigations is invaluable.

It’s interesting that you mention laws of older cultures, since the oldest set of laws I know of contains one specifically prohibiting bearing “false witness.”

The position of the rape hysteria-ists is not only completely untenable, it works to the serious detriment of real victims.

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Joseph December 22, 2010 at 10:45

The women who do this should receive the same sentence that they were trying to get placed on these men. No more, no less. Should shut them up.

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Robert December 22, 2010 at 10:58

“Even “I’m sorry” Is Too Much to Give a Man Falsely Accused of Rape”

IMHO, it is no where near enough.
Some men have lost careers, marriages, family, friends, their credibilty, their reputations and, their lives; all because of even one false rape accusation. I believe most false rape accusers ( as well as the other types of false accusers) suffer a tiny slap on the wrist ( if any real punishment at all) and continues on her ( most false rape accusations [ and other false accusations are made by females]) merry way. Even if a girl/woman spends years in a women’s prison ( which I have been told by women who have served hard time in women’s prisons is a combination of luxury resort/daycare.), she is still able to find a man who will date/marry and support her for the rest of her life ( only very young men who are thugs have it this easy as women love bad boys). More mature men, especially those considred to be beyond their prime usually do not have such luxury. In some cases, men, regardless of their age/prime, suffer far more.

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Punchline December 22, 2010 at 12:41

The only thing a woman is sorry about is that she has to say she is sorry.

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Avenger December 23, 2010 at 04:36

as women have the right to lookup the sex offenders living in their area
These lists should be abolished. In the past the cops would just know who the serious or dangerous offenders were in their area and who were just minor annoyances and it wasn’t necessary for the public to know this. Even when these lists began they were only supposed to include dangerous child molesters who had been released from prison or were on probabtion and had to be watched due to their compulsive nature. Today these lists mean nothing because they are so large and include “crimes” like an 18yo having sex with his 16yo gf in places where there’s an absolute age of consent of 18 or harmless “peeping Toms” or just guys taking a piss and some female sees them and starts screaming “flasher”. It seems that every trivial thing is now a crime.
That “Predator” show is nothing more that police entrapment and a sign that you’re living in a police state. While a few of those guys may have really wanted to have sex with a 13yo, most of them probably just think it’s an older woman just fooling around and saying she’s a girl. When they show up at the house they don’t see a 13yo but a 20yo woman so now they’re thinking that it was just what they really expected but now it’s too late. Those of us who have more experience and know females well also know that 13 year olds don’t invite strange older men over to their house to screw them and I’m sure that those men know this too and expect an older girl when they go to the house. But there’s another problem with all of this. To be convicted of a crime the DA must prove all of the elements of that crime in the Statute and also Intent. You first have to prove the defendant committed the crime and then show it was intentional. If a person puts a gun in his pocket and writes a demand note and goes over to a bank but then changes his mind and turns around and leaves there’s no crime and at that point there’s no intent either. Except in a case of conspiracy there’s really no way to prove that the defendant really intended to carry out a crime. What’s next? There are cameras all over. Are they going to claim you intended to rape some female you passed on the street because you looked at her and had a lecherous look on your face at the time? lol We’re getting more and more into 1984 territory here where Winston had to always be careful of even the expression on his face for fear that it may be misinterpreted by the Thought Police.

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continent December 23, 2010 at 06:47

False sex abuse arrest. What are the consequences.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-shapiro-wrongful-arrest-20101222,0,1947426.story

Yakov Shapiro’s son defended his father at a bail review hearing and explained that he had still been living in the former Soviet Union, where he grew up, when the first molestation episode was alleged to have occurred. He explained that his father had never taught bar mitzvah lessons, did not speak Hebrew and had only visited Baltimore on a few occasions, according to court records.

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E. Steven Berkimer December 23, 2010 at 09:22

continent,

Hope you don’t mind, but that’s going up on our site.

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continent December 23, 2010 at 10:17

ESB,
What do you mean? I don’t know what your site it but have seen FRS website and complimented him for taking such a inglorious task. on one site they cheered if registered offenders (false or not) living under a causeway bridge would roll into alligator infested river. Some had served their sentences but since sometimes life probation is so complicated, the violated it and were not allowed to live in certain communities.

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continent December 23, 2010 at 10:41

ESB,
I apologize. I misunderstood your remark. I thought Pierce Harlan was the activist but I revisited FRS website and saw your article. While the “bridge too far” has apparently changed, this what it was. Link: Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Tuttle_Causeway_sex_offender_colony

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Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) December 23, 2010 at 11:02

Höllenhund December 21, 2010 at 14:42
“The eventual result of all this will be that accusations of rape will be viewed with a large dose of scepticism, which is exactly what women deserve”

Correct. Anyone who will make up a ‘crime’ as an excuse for being late to class can not expect that ‘crime’ to be considered seriously. If men would only learn that no allegation is lawful until it is made under oath, penalty of perjury and full commercial liability they might learn how to defend themselves from these false allegations. But, as usual, men are all looking to ‘someone else to do something’ and are not willing to act like adults and protect themselves.

Porky D. December 21, 2010 at 14:52
“I’ve said it before and i’ll say it again, someone really should set up a site called falserapeaccuser.com”

We have set up a site for Crimes Against Fathers. We will name any person that a father brings a lawful accusation against. We are quite prepared to publish lawful affidavits accusing any female OR MALE of a crime. We are working to bring the rule of law and jury trials back into Australia and Ireland. Robert Menard is also trying to do this in Canada.
http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/

Given that false rape victims are often fathers I see no reason not to publish their cases via our sites as they get going. False rape allegations are crimes. They are perjury. Period.

Gunn December 21, 2010 at 17:05
“I often scratch my head and wonder how the law has been twisted into something that is such a mockery of justice.”

Because they are not ‘laws’. They are legislation. And they are not there for ‘justice’ they are there for control. And men are very, very controlled now. Most of you are scared to death of your local cops, right?

John T. December 21, 2010 at 22:35

Nice for a police officer to turn up. But you know. It’s about time you guys started PROTECTING US rather than robbing us, isn’t it? I am drafting notices for all the police officers in Ireland and Australia to lawfully notice them of the crimes they are associated with. If you want an example of how bad this is check out this video and read the transcript in the comment box below. I am the first man to bring video evidence out of a court on a family law matter proving the magistrate is a criminal. Yet you cops won’t help me prosecute men like this criminal magistrate. Instead you beat up guys like me and throw us in jail. Not very neighbourly of you.
http://www.youtube.com/user/peternolan1109?feature=mhum
You might read this post as well.
http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/australia/Forums/tabid/82/forumid/3/threadid/47/scope/posts/Default.aspx

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continent December 23, 2010 at 13:30

New Law in New York. signed by Gov. Patterson. She was on Dr. Phil
show thanking him.
http://www.divorcesaloon.com/2009/04/05/bridget-marks-the-buxum-ex-playmate-drafts-bridgets-law-with-state-assemblymen/ Quote,
” Apparently Bridget had accused the father of “molesting” the girls. And we know in New York there is an automatic transfer of custody if the court feels that the custodial parent invents charges of molestation and encourages the children to bring such charges (usually against the father) and essentially “poisons” and “alienates” the children from the non-custodial parent.
Bridget was accused of all that and the trial court gave the kids to the father and his wife. But she appealed. I am not sure if was the Appellate Division or the Court of Appeals but which ever it was, Bridget got her custody back”

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ChewyBees December 23, 2010 at 14:43

This and a whole lot of other failures of the law system become quite believable when you change your viewpoint of what the purpose of the laws and courts are. It most certainly is not justice, nor is it the deterrence of crime. With 10s of millions of laws on the books you would think crime would be a rare thing. Instead, everything is against the law and every citizen is expected to live in fear of not only the criminals, but equally the law and the enforcers of it.
The courts are all operating in commerce. That means the ultimate goal is profit for the court, it’s play actors, and the government. They profit in many ways. First you hire an attorney (who is a sworn BAR member, as is the judge and prosecutor) who comes up with all kinds of schemes that will supposedly get you off. You pay this man to save your life and he looks for maximum billable hours and an outcome that favors the court. The prosecutor profits from the taxpayers as well as transfer of funds from the CQV trust your name is attached to. And the judge also profits from taxpayers and the CQV. When they sentence you and you go to prison, they profit from paying a few hundred dollars a year to warehouse you, while charging the taxpayers tens of thousands.
This all happens with fluidity because we all bow down to fictional authority. A judge or prosecutor is just as FOS as the rest of us, and they must have consent before they can act out on any of us. Once they have that, they can make anything up on the fly and do whatever they wish. They’ll dig up some ancient law or just make one up on the fly, and what will you do about it? You’ve already said they have authority over you. Now you are an incompetent child and they are your foster parent.
search for the book, Extortion System of the Ruling Elite, to find out more as well as more resources on this topic…

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discouragedC December 24, 2010 at 08:48

I would like to propose legislation to enact a false rape accusation list similar to the sexual predators list. So that men would know if they live in an area where they may be assaulted (accused) just by walking down the street. A large black A tattooed on the forehead for Accuser instead of the old fashioned adulterer red A, would be great for the bar scene.

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David K. Meller December 25, 2010 at 19:26

It is a SERIOUS flaw in our legal system that the perpetrators of false accusation–along with prosecutors, media vultures, and “anti-rape” women’s activists, aren’t all treated at least as firmly as the innocent victims of their foul allegations!

Restore the presumption of innocence, especially for truly loathsome crimes such as rape or child-molestation! Even the scales of justice where the aim is NOT the protection of women and children, but simply feminist “jail-the-male” spite and hatred!

Isn’t it past time that those who abuse the courts and law-enforcement systems to advance their antimale, if not inhuman agenda, face the consequences of THEIR actions?

PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller

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David K. Meller December 25, 2010 at 19:36

Some of the posts above have given me another idea, at least for our friends in the USSA! There IS a long-standing tradition of “jury nullification” where a jury simply refuses to convict when the law itself is unjust, inapplicable,or just plain insane! This is NOT recognised by most of the Courts of Law and Equity in the country, on either the Federal or State (provincial) level, but properly done, it does serve notice that we “citizens” and taxpayers will NOT co-operate in our legal oppression!

A website which can offer more information and support is FIJA.org. It is the website of the Fully Informed Jury Association.

PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller

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Anonymous December 25, 2010 at 23:20

Druk writes, ‘The 1st and 5th amendment defenses confuse the hell out of me for these cases’

It doesn’t apply in these cases because the men have already admitted guilt when they took some plea deal or probation and the terms of which were going to these “therapy” sessions.

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continent December 27, 2010 at 13:17

@ Anonymous,
Good point. Years ago I read a book “Never Plead Guilty”. I could not find it on the web, but a load of links. This was one of them
http://criminal-defence-lawyers.com/never_plead_guilty.php

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gwallan December 28, 2010 at 04:08

@John T…

I might be a bit of an anomaly in this place in being administratively involved in a rape crisis setup.

There was a time when I thought being a cop would be about the hardest job there is. That was before I met rape counsellors. These are folk who live/work with horror stories all the time.

It’s good to be reminded that the cops who deal with these things probably get a double dose in that respect.

One of the things I’ll probably need to do in the future is work on improving the relationships and communication between the cops, medical examiners and counselling orgs.

Thanks for your contribution. It’s given me a framework for something I’ll probably need to learn a fair bit about.

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wana April 13, 2011 at 04:33

any person who deliberately makes a false accusations regarding rape should be made to pay all the defendents legal costs and should be incarcerated for the same period to that that the falsely accussed may have been interned. SIMPLE

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