As the proportion of crimes committed by women continues to rise, feminists have stepped in to maintain the huge gender disparity in prison. Dame Laura Cox, a British High Court Judge, commanded her inferiors – Britain’s judges – to treat female criminals leniently when handing out sentences. It is not clear whether keeping female criminals out of prison is her only goal — reducing punishments is usually a way to give a sort of tacit approval to acts, in this case crimes committed by women.
The reasoning behind the commandment goes something like this:
Women’s experiences are not exactly equal to men’s, therefore in order to have true equality, we have to treat them unequally under the law, because that way they will have equal experiences.
So, she’s essentially saying that legal equality is not really equal, possibly because it doesn’t “feel that way” to female criminals, never mind the fact that most convicted criminals – male or female – feel like they got a raw deal.
When the concept of equality extends to mandating equal outcomes based on subjective feelings, and power is handed over to women who actually believe this is a form of justice, there is bound to be an erosion of the very concept of justice in the popular mind. What happens is that a more primitive, selfish attitude toward crime and punishment emerges as collective justice is no longer seen as justice at all.
When the courts begin to fail, one should expect more vendettas, vigilanteism, and personal violence in the name of justice, in which case women will likely be in for a rough ride.
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Wow, this judge`s opinion is unreal:
Poor mental health? Come on. How many incarcerated men have mental illnesses, undiagnosed or otherwise?
Poorly educated? Ditto.
Not committed violence? A large portion of the male prison population is in there for nonviolent drug crimes, and similar drug-related offences? Why should the women who commit non-violent offences be treated more leniently then men who commit non-violent offences?
Have children to look after? I’ll bet this judge is a feminist – and it shows just how bullshit feminists are when they talk about equality. It is sexist to say that women are primary caregivers for children whenever it involves assigning some responsibility to women. However, when “thinking of the children” will give women special rights, then they’re sacred mothers again. Fuck, how many of the men who go to prison have children?
The Big Lie. Once you know what it is, you recognize it over and over again. I mean, just take that one sentence. “Giving special treatment to women is equality.” It’s like the official communist paper in the Soviet Union . It was called “Pravda” – or “The Truth”. Brilliant bit of marketing.
This data is a bit dated, but here are university sex ratios for Great Britain in 2004:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-314026/The-university-sex-ratio-table.html
I can only assume they’ve gotten worse since then, because that’s the trend. Anyway, more girls then boys end up in university – and somehow women are disadvantaged throughout life so much that they need more lenient sentencing? Unbelievable.
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The boldness and pure lack of ethics in feminists is amazing…
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This is simply a codification of what is already the truth. I sincerely doubt this is going to change any minds about the way the Common Law justice system works. Most people will happily accept the Rule of (wo)Man over the Rule of Law until it affects them personally – at which point, they will be convicts, and no one will ever listen to them again.
Plus ca change…
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what a SHAME !!! Maybe next time i want someone dead i should send my daughter,.. coz the way i see it,.. It doent look so BAD…
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Exhibit A:
Mother obsessed with computer game neglects her three children and lets two dogs starve to death
… and walks free from court.
What is the chance of a man who did the same retaining his anonymity, and not being imprisoned on those charges?
Well, now, it is OFFICIAL that men will be punished more severely (or, at all) for the same crimes.
Men in the UK are officially second class citizens. De jure and de facto.
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at least punish them first, or more rightly make a law that punishes them for crimes like false accusations.
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On the one hand, female criminality is rising sharply.
On the other hand, due to the actual financial crisis, many cities are laying off many “policepersons?”.
Rising criminality and decreasing police force promise us very interesting times…
In my corner of the world, female killers are preferred to male killers because… they are more merciless, killing doesn’t bother them at all and they hardly ever get caught or sentenced.
…the gentler sex…. oh, the irony!
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Yeah this is absurd, but no more absurd than any of the other “by design” nastiness going around. And if people don’t think this is by design consider that a committee produced this. They had process. They had checks. It’s intentional.
We all need to chill out. The people in power don’t investigate themselves. They do what they want. It’s always been this way. Acts like these are the final spastic movements by those who know their power is waning. Just be a good person and speak up when confronted by this. We’re in the majority. We will win.
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and this isn’t some revolutionary thing, she has probably only put in words what has been an informal practice.
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Also, on the article I posted,
here.
Check out the lovely victim blaming in the comments. Apparently the mother just needs ‘help’ … the children aged 9, 10 and 13 should have ‘stepped up’ to fend for themselves.
Yes, it’s all the children’s fault when mothers neglect and abuse them. Nicely done, feminists. Perhaps the children should go to prison. Or just be post-natally aborted.
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For a few years now. I knew that this would come to pass. Where the law has been codified to make the entire male sex as subhuman.
if a woman let her children languish and starve to death. I wouldn’t look at her. if this be considered trolling, then so be it. I’d kill her on the spot. I told, emailed a friend of mine this.
if a woman starves her own children intentionally, or do any harm. I would kill her.
Seriously, I hate women who are heartless creatures towards their own children.
when men and feminists say oh women are just innocent victims. Well FUCK YOU and fuck your little bubble.
You are no longer human beings. In my book.
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Power.
Anglo west men don’t know how to win or impose it. (Eg “democracy”, “freedom”, “rights” and etc prayers.)
Complaining about “fairness” or “consistency” or “Justice” is pointless.
Power.
How to win it and impose it.
Since western men refuse to accept that, they are doomed.
So enjoy your “freedom” and “democracy”.
The end.
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Sean,
I think I understand what you are saying, but there is one thing I am unclear on. Since you have a firmer grasp on these things than I, perhaps you could condescend to clarify one point.
Am I correct in thinking you are saying that complaining about justice, consistency, and other such concepts, is a useless strategy for attaining power?
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Those victim blaming posts are just typical. To be truthful, we’re in a fucked up world. Pardon my language if any decent women are reading this and to other men.
It shows that human idiocy reigns supreme.
if there’s a higher power a creator. presumably God, he’s about to be pissed off. And the angels would give up each one of us, men an idiot slap.
In truth we let this happen. rather our complacency did this to us. In loose translation we did this to ourselves. By allowing feminism to take root. Now its the time to clean up the act and be what we were put to on this earth.
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@ Snark
I suspect that those victim blaming posts will degenerate. It’s not far fetch that those who posted on the article you link. Will Threaten those children.
When it does, we hit rock bottom.
I would ask that worthless wench, in why God’s name did she neglect the children. But it’s unlikely that answers would be found. Obviously strangling her would be fruitless, considering that the guards are there to protect her worthless ass.
Feminism is a Satanic Cult. And those feminists needed to be burned at the stake.
The saying goes, it’s not always easy to keep your cool.
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@ Snark
I suspect that those victim blaming posts will degenerate. It’s not far fetch that those who posted on the article you link. Will Threaten those children.
When it does, we hit rock bottom.
I would ask that worthless wench, in why God’s name did she neglect the children. But it’s unlikely that answers would be found. Obviously strangling her would be fruitless, considering that the guards are there to protect her worthless ass.
Feminism is a Satanic Cult. And those feminists needed to be burned at the stake.
The saying goes, it’s not always easy to keep your cool.
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Hi everyone,
Yvonne Roberts, a british feminist (and journalist) published a paper on the issue last june:
Gender reform must not be gender neutral
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This is ridiculous. If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime.
It’s funny how feminists on the one hand go on about how women are “just as strong” as men and should be treated the same, and in many cases like to think that somehow they are superior in the emotional realm, yet this sort of thing says one of two truths:
1) Women are emotionally weaker and unable to handle hard time.
2) Feminists are not for equality but superiority and matriarchy.
Actually, a third option:
3) All of the above.
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Leniency and inconsistency all over. Not forgetting sugar-coated rehabilitation. Probably one of the best examples you’ll ever see of warped justice.
Here (Tracie Andrews) Apologies if already posted.
Looks like the same retrospective bias influencing ‘punishment’ in women’s prisons.
Another point, seeing as TA was jailed in 1997, they’re probably warming her up for release (judge said serving minimum of 14 years, even though ‘life’ was given).
In this case I’d really like to be proven wrong, as justice will have been served.
Some strive for ‘equality’. I don’t think many feminists had much to say about this.
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You could look at it two ways.
Judges were ordered to be more lenient on women.
Or
Judges were ordered to be more harsh on men.
Same situation.
It’s time to make put this person on the target list for activism. Being lenient on women is the same as being harsher on men. Men are more guilty for their crimes than women… that you have to oppress men for the benefit of women.
I think this is the right place for starters:
http://www.judicialcomplaints.gov.uk/complaints/complaints_judge.htm
Her name is : Dame Laura Cox
I’ve been noticing a trend in the feminist movement – it seems when ever an unfair injustice is done against men – they use that injustice for their own movement by saying this is going on against women. In fact I wonder if it is not the primary method of feminism? Anyone else ever notice this? It’s unbelievably cunning.
Perhaps there is a design to oppress men through social engineering plans of the elites who rule humanity? Why would they target men? Probably because we are the only ones who have a chance of overthrowing their power… This idea takes credence to the alternative research community AKA conspiracy theories – if your are familiar with them – this is worth considering.
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That article shows clearly how hypocrite feminists are.
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Not too shabby Thag Jones. Men here will agree.
The saying goes, a woman can be polite and at the same time be blunt.
It shows that few women still have class.
Sometimes a woman has a way making a feminist stick a tail between her legs and scoot off somewhere.
I always have a habit starting with the saying goes, or the old saying .
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U.S. Congress will pass similar laws soon enough.
Justice Ginsberg has already said that the US Supreme Court should take the laws of other countries into consideration when making decisions (this alone should have had her removed from the bench).
Don’t expect the Equal Protection clause to protect you.
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I find it necessary to mention that despite to many supposed MRAs (like Angry Harry, etc.) being in the UK, anti-male things happen with impunity.
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Wow. I’m speechless.
Why aren’t the brit guys rioting in the streets?
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Well as propaganda for the dense, they are fine. But don’t actually fall for your own santa claus trick.
Propaganda schpiel yes. But at the same time, the leaders of the coming storm need to demonstrate that they understand what happened to the anglo west. Ie how we did it to ourselves.
How did we do it?
With cult like need to believe in the impossible, shutting out nature facts, head under blanky (bred-for simpleton-ness helps in shutting out nature facts). _And our ignorance of the snowball of coup d eta Man is on._ Feminism is a straw on a camel’s back; it did not just materialize out of nowhere.
(…Alpha beta gamma snowball– the way men compete in groups, always looking for strength in number support which usually comes from “below”; our ignorance of eg eugenics (ie it does NOT mean death camps); christian bred-for infantilism/fear (head under blanky stuff) and dunc-i-fication (anti nature); Not thinking the techno snowball’s implications through. [Tech snowball is man's way of competing--the "great leveler" ...for underlings to use.])
[Note eu and dys are relative; by "Eu-" I mean intellect and some self sufficiency. That destroys cities though. And that won't just happen. So it is 'catch 22.']
In order to prevent feminism from happening again we definitely need to grapple with the real causes. Blaming ‘feminism’ (and more correctly I say women but I’m an old-Greek-like misogynist), is like blaming the water for a leaky roof. We –the anglo west –built a bad roof. My evidence?
Other cultures and periods have been able to avoid these problems even though rain has always been happening constantly.
Only a wet fool reasons with the rain.
All that will generate confidence in leaders’ abilities and draw more support.
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As for details…
Hmmm.
We need high tech military support. Not those meat head “boots on the ground” guys; rather satellite naval/ air. A sabotaging plurality would do. Then revolution coup –ala Chez Gurrera[sp], Adolph Hitler– with communications (TV radio etc) and some political venues as target.
If military sabotage is effective that buys time to re-indoctrinate the Pavlovian horde. (I believe the polite term is “the people” but that always make me wretch when I say it.)
If most military high tech is on board than Chez-like coup in streets would not be necessary obviously. But military types are notoriously thick headed Pavlovian dogs. Ie well indoctrinated conformists.
In order to get military support, communications power is needed first. …So it is a catch 22.
So here we flounder.
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I showed that child neglect story to my mom and she thought it was fictional. She couldn’t understand why the woman didn’t buy dogfood alongside the childrens food, if she still had to go the supermarket. She asked why the children didn’t try feeding the dog the beans, and why the hell the children ate out of the can of beans with their fingers instead of grabbing a spoon. If they’re not smart enough to use a spoon, how did they get the can open? Also she found it strange that the mother was able to ignore these two starving dogs. Surely those dogs would be a massive nuisance.
It’s ironic that my mom is sometimes more rational than me(since I’m a man and a MRA). I was all “lol MMORPG addicts and women are sooo stupid”, yet I failed to notice some of the illogicalness of this story. It could still possibly be true, but remember the media can report false garbage.
Now that I think about it, I also find it strange how the kids didn’t try to get help from friends or authorities, or bug their mom until she got her shit together, or even destroy her fucking computer. These are not toddlers after all, talk about zero survival instinct. Of course this just goes to show how absolutely dependent the average child is nowadays.
Hot debate. What do you think?
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Anon: nice hatchet job of three young children. And even the two dogs receive some blame for not making themselves more of a nuisance.
But the woman being held responsible? Nah, not gonna happen.
Now, if it was a man …
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@ Sean,
Good response … and thoughtful.
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Not a new trend.
Pattern is assert that there is a phantom oppression hurting females; then demand very real –non phantom– oppression of men to “balance it all out”.
Interesting to note that the evidence for the oppression hurting females is usually the very stuff an astute man would use as evidence for how females are not equal in the first place and therefore shouldn’t be included in the category.
That is the other pattern of feminism. Feminists(male or fem) start off by denying there are differences between the genders– or deny female shortcomings –as a way to get inclusion/power. Then once power is achieved (as inevitable side effect of inclusion _given what men and women naturally are to each and the dance they do_), admit/assert facts about male and female differences– and female shortcomings (always carefully avoiding admitting female inferiority) as evidence for how females need special privilege.
To deny this special unconstitutional privilege would be “oppression” of females motivated by misogyny. (And “probably something Hitler would do”; etc.)
Overwhelmingly most humans are not smart enough to think things through.
If I –or someone like me– had media power all the conspiracies –if any– would be moot. Same with military power.
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wrt the child neglect story, Anon above is right that it’s weird that a 9, 10 and 13 year old couldn’t fend for themselves, but he draws poor conclusions from it. It’s more likely to be evidence of long term neglect than anything nefarious about the story itself. The mom is obviously unfit to parent.
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So is legal what it was a common practice. Shameless.
The big irony would be that one of the brand new female assassins that got free card for this would take out that judge.
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“New guidelines declare that women suffer disadvantages”
Oh, man.
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More and more the feminists are coming out from behind the banner of equality to state that some are more equal than others. As for the statement:”The rules say women criminals often have poor mental health or are poorly educated have not committed violence and have children to look after. ” I am quite sure the British correctional system has mental health professionals who are available to the prisoners, and also offers the opportunity for prisoners to better their education while doing their time. Although with this kind of support in the justice system, I feel most women criminals will simply sit on their ass-ets and cry that they are the actual victims. Also the statement: “Women’s experiences are not exactly equal to men’s, therefore in order to have true equality, we have to treat them unequally under the law, because that way they will have equal experiences. ” it becomes clear what is comming next. That women suffer as much stress, physical exertion, and mental strain working six hours as men do working eight hours, working at the same job. Therefore women should either have their hours of work reduced, but retain the same pay; or they should be payed more for working the same number of hours as men. The reasoning is the same. No one should object to that because all they want is “true equality”. And it appears that the judges will support such a position.
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Well, not that the current crop of men is much better, but women shouldn’t even be judges in the first place. Especially when men or so-called “gender issues” are involved, women have no business deciding a person’s fate one way or another.
In fact, women have no business whatsoever charting the course of human societies, which is why they shouldn’t hold political office or even vote.
It’s baffling that men seem all too willing to un-critically accept the idea of a female judge, and the fact that a man’s (and society’s) fate hangs in the balance because of it. Enlightened men must see to it that women never be allowed any such power.
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Wow. Just wow. They don’t even have to hide it under a thin veil any more. They have successfully indoctrinated the population with the view that inequality somehow equates with equality. Unfortunately, many people will be supporting this for reasons I am yet to comprehend.
The rest will just simply ignore it like it isn’t a problem.
Well I can’t see how they can do it this time since it staring them right in the eyes.
If there was ever a time to really ramp up our efforts it is right now. Especially those of us in the UK. I would happily help organise a demonstration (or a riot, which is quite frankly the more appropriate option
). On the other hand it may be better to just sit back and watch the whole thing crumble. This system really cannot support itself for much longer.
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Quite so. If women, as a class, are not to be held as responsible for their own criminal actions, then they ought not be given responsibility for other legal actions: voting, signing contracts, owning property, running companies, corporations or governments and so on. That’s only fair, right? Because she might “have poor mental health, be poorly educated or have children to look after”, right?
Like that’s ever going to happen… again.
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I take this as a desperate attempt to escape the inevitable.
Feminists know that the Pussy Pass is under investigation and that many prying eyes are starting to look a lot closer at the abomination that we call a justice system. With so many statistics confirming female privilege to commit crime without consequence, and so many more people being made aware of it, it is only a matter of time before a war is declared on the Pussy Pass – but that war requires that people believe it to be morally wrong and offensive to justice.
Enter this attempt to rationalize the Pussy Pass before too many commit to its destruction.
The feminists have nowhere left to run.
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All female justice includes the influence of subjective feelings. We must simply look at all the other laws women seek to create. Take rape for instance.
Women don’t overthrow oppressive governments, men do. However, the female and her central ethos is instrumental in the development of such government .
Women prefer that we all be provided and protected for or shall I say they prefer that themselves be provided and protected for by the power if the State.
I have come to the conclusion that independency, liberties and freedom are male concepts. Women obviously don’t seek nor cherrish such things.
Feminism was supposed to make women “independent” but unfortunately men did not know that the female idea of independence is simply the increase of “choices” of how they can be dependent, take the female idea of no-fault divorce which has been implemented as law here in the U.S.
I am thoroughly convinced that justice as men know it is also not the female definition of justice. Again we find that females are unable to separate “needs” or subjective feelings from the matter. One can see that in fact there is no form of justice in the mind of females. Justice is nebulous and metaphysical in the female mind.
Such is why I believe she is intrigued by novelty and more given towards such beliefs as fate, destiny and such forms of mysticism as astrology as well. She seems to have more of a propensity for this form of thought. She seems less capable of compartimentalizing influences to form objective thoughts and reason.
To me, the female an entirely illogical being. Such propensites are clearly dangerous when she has agency over such things as justice.
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I’d be a lot happier if there were more than one newspaper article covering this story. As everyone in the MRM knows, the Press almost never gets the details right. A google news search for “Dame Laura Cox” or “Equal Treatment Bench Book” turns up only the one story (and lots of manosphere reactions to it.)
Can we be sure there’s any substance to this report? I can find the 2008 and 2009 versions of the handbook online, but nothing recent. Can someone in the UK call up Steve Doughty, or an editor or ombudsman at the Daily Mail, and find out who his sources are?
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By the way, just wait until a high-ranking woman executive defrauds a pension fund and destroys the financial futures of thousands, including judges. I doubt Dame Laura will be feeling so committed to the sisterhood then.
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I take it you’ve seen this:
http://faculty.plts.edu/gpence/html/kohlberg.htm
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Lani Guinier proposed co-ed prisons. I’m not sure if she, or Dame Laura is farther from the real world.
Both have spent their entire lives in the comfortable world of books and courts and never seen the gritty reality of the impact of their decisions. They don’t have a clue what happens when they write those pretty legal papers. They don’t realize that actual people have to make those ridiculous things actually happen.
In war, those people are called REMFS … Rear Echelon Mother FuckerS. They sit in the background and type stupid orders that get people on the battlefield killed. Sometimes you need to rub their noses in those orders and beat them with a rolled up newspaper.
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Arrggh the Kohlberg thing was me; wish this site remembered who you are each time you post…
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Sure. All those actions listed above should in fact be the responsibility exclusively of men.
By participating in any of those actions, women ultimately contribute nothing of real value to society or to civilization. Their participation amounts to little more than female ego gratification.
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And yet, many men seem to take for granted this utterly laughable, absurd notion of a woman as “British High Court Judge.”
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You dont fight this sort of stuff to make it go away. That has the opposite effect. You exaggerate, escalate and support it to the point of utter folly. Then it will eat itself.
Men understand this instinctively. Its called deductive logic, the very essence of thought. No amount of reasoning will turn such wrong headed nonsense around. Again, engaging it with reason will simply fuel it, whilst robbing you of your positive energy in this life.
Careful what ya wish for ladies, you’re gonna get it, from yourselves. As women become more violent and criminal they will target, as all thugs do, the weaker ones. Namely, each other. As more of it happens, more people will turn a blind eye. Women have been that way for eons and it has only been the men who will step in and put that rubbish right. But those daze are fast coming to an end. Its already happening, en masse. Women beat on each other and drink babies blood and da evil menz just watch. Sometimes in horror and bemusement. Then amusement. Then indifference.
Indifference is the key. Step up and STEP AWAY men. l’ve heard it said by women that they find nothing worse than being ignored. Its a primal fear they have developed after millenia of dependency. They inadvertantly do it to themselves and when you create enough distance and detachment, they eventually see it. Unfortunately, their muddled femmy minds can easily go a life time denying it.
So essentially, they be utterly farked by their own reckoning.
In the meantime fellas, enjoy your life and whatever freedom you may have, while it lasts.
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It told judges: ‘Women remain disadvantaged in many public and private areas of their life; they are under-represented in the judiciary, Parliament and senior positions
across a range of jobs; and there is still a substantial pay gap between men and women.’
That there is the key, take note men, this is women’s conception of justice. As they see it, the massively harsher sentences that men already get are already barely compensation enough for the fact that women earn less money and don’t get into top tier jobs as much. Courts eviscerating men while treating women with the kid gloves ”balances out” these other disparaties, so removing this would make things unequal.
That’s how women view things, individual circumstances are irrelavent, all that matters is that all groups get what they (in the woman’s mind) deserve. It’s just like how they think destroying innocent men over false rape accusations makes up for the times when the woman doesnt come forward and the man gets away with it, thats why they’re always going on about how many don’t get reported; ”it doesn’t matter that X innocent men are destroyed, Y guilty men didnt get punished, so it all cancels out”.
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Well it is a good thing we own guns in the US. The men in the UK deserve what they get. They just seem to just keep taking it. Like a massive shit test on an industrial scale. Is english pussy that good? This is something that is completely mad. This is a government that is being run by how she feels about it. It is complete madness.
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greyghost asked…
It’s about as bad as it gets.
By certain definitions feminism’s influence should be inversely proportional to the quality of the “pussy”. Draw your own conclusions where the UK is concerned.
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greyghost asked…
It’s about as bad as it gets.
By certain definitions feminism’s influence should be inversely proportional to the quality of the “pussy”. Draw your own conclusions where the UK is concerned.
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Rebel wrote, In my corner of the world, female killers are preferred to male killers because… they are more merciless, killing doesn’t bother them at all and they hardly ever get caught or sentenced
I’m afraid that is the general Nature of the female and I don’t believe I’ve ever seen a female show remorse for any bad deeds she has done. In terms of evolution this is how the female developed and men should be aware of it. I’m sure that in more primitive times that females had their husbands killed by other men and were then dragged off by the dominant man. They had to get over their grief fast and comply with the new man or they’d probably be killed. The ones who did are the ancestors of today’s females and share the same traits. You’ll notice that females react to any tragedy quickly with crying, wailing etc but then get over it fast while a man may still be effected by something years later long after the female has forgot it. It’s not natural for a female to have any sense of morality, just whatever lets her survive, and it always has to be imposed upon her by the male. You can’t hate a female anymore than a snake that bites you because it’s just doing what a snake does and is part of its nature. It is these personality traits that make females unfit to have any authority over men or to decide what is or isn’t moral because a sense of fairness, justice, equality etc has no meaning to her and she’s only interested in how she can personally benefit from something not society or civilisation at large. Men and women have nothing in common outside of sex(reproduction) No man ever benefitted by being in the company or married to a woman. You know of any married men who can say, “I’m twice as happy and twice as rich since I’ve been married” lol
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killing doesn’t bother them at all
That’s because the area of the brain that controls the conscience is poorly developed in the female and in some females never developes at all and many females remain in that infantile stage where it’s all about what I need and what I want regardless of how it effects anyone else.. It also effects impulse control which is also why females can barely, if at all, control their primitive instincts.
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This is nothing less than a mad dash to turn men into a slave class,with women as somewhat higher slave class, both dependent on the state for everything necessary to survival.
“The rules say women criminals often have poor mental health or are poorly educated.”
It sure looks that way, every time a woman is sentenced,in the news we see something about a woman’s mental state or lack of opportunities used as a mitigating factor to secure a lesser punishment or no punishment for her where a man would get the book thrown at him.
So I don’t doubt that it looks like most women who are convicted have mental problems. If the same line of thought were applied to men,we would see something like this:
“99.9 % of male criminals ACTUALLY INNOCENT.”
Most people won’t accept responsibility for their crimes, that’s why we have justice systems in the first place.
PULL THE PUSSY PASS TODAY
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So what’s next? Murder committed by women re-defined as post-partum abortion? They’ll just have to pay a coroner instead of a vacuum technician?
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Orwell saw it coming a long time ago.
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
When you adjust for feminism,you can add this to the list.
INEQUALITY IS EGALITARIAN
Feminists could give “The Party” a run for their money. They got that doublethink shit down to an art.
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quot Criolle Johnny
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In war, those people are called REMFS … Rear Echelon Mother FuckerS. They sit in the background and type stupid orders that get people on the battlefield killed. Sometimes you need to rub their noses in those orders and beat them with a rolled up newspaper.
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Ha ha, we call them ‘shiny-arses’ but I’m going to start calling them REMFs.
We’ve reached a trance state of resignation in this country, which doesn’t excuse the complete lack of meaningful resistance to this and a hundred thousand other outrages.
People just don’t have the beginnings of an grasp on what a massively overpopulated island with large-scale dependence on foreign food, fuel and manufactures owes to the fabric of society and thus ‘civilisation’, which is seen as an abstract, sepulchral bourgeois concept, not the guarantor of the literate and abundant life that it is.
No, they’re content to say ‘fuck it’ until the tab is called in. They deserve to suffer – reset England to its factory settings, let people finally see that the world doesn’t owe us this standard of living. Maybe then we can jettison the holdover high Victorian moralist / exceptionalist bullshit from which feminism sprung and, ultimately, start paying our way again.
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I recognize that I am off subject with this comment, but would you please stop allowing any female period to post or even access this site? Can men not have one d*mn place or setting in the whole world that women are not allowed to invade? Men do not seem to run around trying to join women’s organizations. It is mindnumbing that I have to read regular comments from women on all men’s websites/blogs.
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I can understand the outrage that such comments were made publicly in the UK, however I get the impression that in other anglo-saxon countries the situation is just as bad even if its not made public.
For example, someone made the comment above that if the UK had more gun ownership, it would change things. That it would – far more men caught up in DV charges are killed in the US due to the prevalence of guns than are killed in the UK. This is because the fact that men could be armed is used as an excuse by the police in the US to go in with overwhelming force in DV situations. UK police have a far higher burden of proof to be able to use overwhelming force, simply because we do not routinely own guns in the UK and therefore its difficult for the police to be able to claim that situations pose an immediate and real risk of serious injury or death to themselves.
On topic, I think that public statements like this are a good thing. The enemy is making themselves visible, and therefore presenting a target to be attacked. One of my frustrations with the political system in the UK is that there is no one to represent mens’ interests. As we see more and more overreach like in this article, opposition will foment.
In addition, most judges today are out-of-touch with everyday reality. They tend to be old white men, and likely white-knights to boot. However, this is changing, ironically with the promotion of more female judges. One of the best antidotes to feminism is old women in positions of power. Whilst some of them will continue to blindly toe the feminist line, with old age women seem to start to see that feminism is a transfer of power from old women to young women. They are often the most critical of errant female behaviour, because they are not afflicted with the white-knightism of their male colleagues.
In fact, I’m curious why the statement reported here was made. This statement would not even have been needed in the past, simply because old white male judges could be counted on to factor in a pussy-pass component to their judgements. If judges are being asked to explicitly consider mitigation for women, it tells me that there is a fear that the end of the pussy pass is looming. This could be the result of a greater diversity of judges, many of whom recognise bad female behaviour when they see it.
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Nah, they’ll get a mangina, beta chump to pay for it.
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Oh yeah. Forgot about my “fellow men”
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Am I the only one that sees the logical conclusion to all this? If you plan to commit a crime, simply hire a woman to do it for you. Perhaps when a large bulk of crimes are committed by women as proxies that’s when things will change?
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We called em pogs. Pronounced with a long o.
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Here is the thing about owning guns. The day of confiscation will come. It will be organized, and you won’t be able to resist. Don’t go out in a blaze of glory, just pick the gun you want to give them, and hand over while offering refreshments. Go from there
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@Migu and everyone talking about guns in the U.S.A.
No, it wont. the whole reason americans have the right to bear arms, is to kick their government’s ass to the curb when and if it’s needed. If the government tries to “confiscate” them, the americans WILL use them to do just that.
And to anyone who is gonna counter point about the military stopping them….. Please, dont bother. I dont give a SHIT how strong you think your army/navy/air force is. it will NOT kill 300 million people, and it’s not stronger then 300 million people with guns. the sooner americans wake the fuck up to this fact, the better off everyone will be.
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Oh I have plenty. I’m just saying if you get surprised have one to give up, and play the supportive role until they leave.
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Even a combat veteran is not going to to be able to resist a coordinated raid. You will just be shot dead. Wait, soldiers get complacent, its what kills them.
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I didn’t say it would be successful only that the attempt will be made. It will. Be ready for it. That’s all
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This high court dame must have spent some time in the chivalrous southern U.S. IMHO, what you do to/for one, you do for all. True justice does not respect sex/gender differences, neither does karma. Trust may be like a broken mirror, you can “fix” it but you will still see that crack in the MFn reflection.
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So here we are. As I have stated in other posts women are now promoting a few things that are closely related to this piece of gender biggotry.
Women are pushing for constrol of government and board rooms of corperations via mandatory 50/50 gender rules regarding corporations.
And they’re getting it, as usual.
Why?
I think it’s because the next set of things they are pushing for, to achieve there societal dystopia, is so biased and outrageous that only with fully female controlled governing bodies will allow it.
As they have stated, men are to be 10% of the population. Since half of births are male what can you do? Kill men via war, or incarcerate them and take them off the streets.
This then explains why the US and Britian are always at war. It also explains the outrageously high male incarceration rates in the US.
Here we have exhibit 1. A feminist is made cheif judge and, staring staight into the eyes of lady justice, with blindfold and scales, says we must give women lighter sentences. In other words institutional sexism.
Can we stop it?
No.
Why, because we believe in democracy and woman are the majority. Now the constitution was created so that we don’t have a tyranny of the majority.
This is why progressives (just another word for feminism, just sounds better) are battling to gain puplic approval of making the constitution null and void by reason of “a living document” code for something we can ignore and trash.
This is how a woman like Sontomyar can become a Supreme court justice while saying hateful things about men and also clearly demonstrating her hatred of men openly and vocally. She knows better because of her experience as a female. At least that is what she said.
So, the constitution won’t help us.
I don’t think western men will respond ever. It is far too late.
With women earning the vast majority of higher degrees (more female lawyers), it is inevitable they will take control of the government, for the most part they have already.
Once fully in control feminists will produce laws that hurt men and help women. They are not the Roman sentate made up of men. They are women and have no concience or concern for men or children.
What will women do with this power, well, read any feminist text. There are plenty and they don’t hide their plans.
There will be a 10:1 female to male ratio and women will be managers, men will be only good for manual labor.
So, I will vote with my feet and leave the West as soon as I can. Am I playing into the hand of feminists, sure. But I think it is time for men in the West to wake up and leave.
When conditions got bad enough, Europeons did it and came to the US.
We can do it.
It is not fair to our son’s to raise them in the West anymore.
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Some will not have that choice, and others will choose to fight. The one advantage the American populace has is their history of nobility is but a century and a half old.
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Those elite or whomever have long been supporting/enabling feminism are ignorant if they think for one moment that feminism does not own them.
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Basic ideas:
-Equality means you treat someone as an individual, and not a sex or race.
-People are not expected to have the same experiences in life but crime comes from the idea that people have inherent value that is to be respected by others. (Making men more culpable for their crimes and more easily punished makes them inherently less valuable or “second class”).
-Having different standards in crime for men and women is merely a pathetic attempt to paint reality they way you wish it to be. (That’s what’s going on here, they are asking for different standards for women.)
This is wide out in the open; a fundamental statement than men are less than human and nobody deserves justice from female criminals. This gets to me in ways I can’t explain.
I know we have been dealing with and fighting this for a while.
Some ways to fight this are pushing for equality in DV. (Pathetic as it is we need to show that women do it as often as men do, as if its a competition. Thanks alot femfucks! That’s their idea of justice, a victims isn’t a victim unless they fit the theory/generalization.
We also need to highlight the fact that children a hurt and killed by mothers and are left without justice and protection in the feminist state. (Enough of us still care about children right?).
So their giving excuses for women criminals in courts and media; men are the ones who usually had to deal with more violence environments (gang neighborhoods). Men have also had less social and state support for their troubles and yet we give more excuses to women…
We need to put a greater emphasis on research and aid for men’s mental health. Convince the health and business industry that there is money to be had in dealing with men’s problems and convincing men that they matter (empowerment). Money is what moves things right?!?
We need to push for accuracy in both the social sciences and in the law. Depending on where you live there are data quality acts That can be used to stop feminist BS. Here is a good place to find out about it.
http://www.saveservices.org/policymakers/how-can-persons-use-the-data-quality-act-to-promote-the-accuracy-of-domestic-violence-information/
Also remember too keep getting info out via the internet.
DONT LET THIS INJUSTICE BE IGNORED OR FEMALE CRIME BE DISMISSED. KEEP FIGHTING IT IN ALL THE WAYS IT CAN BE DAY IN AND DAY OUT.
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-People are not expected to have the same experiences in life but crime comes from the idea that people have inherent value that is to be respected by others. (Making men more culpable for their crimes and more easily punished makes them inherently less valuable or “second class”).
-Having different standards in crime for men and women is merely a pathetic attempt to paint reality they way you wish it to be. (That’s what’s going on here, they are asking for different standards for women.)
Men and women are different. The standards will also be so. The agreement of standards between man and woman “ought” to be respected. The reality “is” the woman is the arbiter of any contract with a man.
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“I’d be a lot happier if there were more than one newspaper article covering this story.”
Ask and ye shall receive…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/7995844/Judges-told-be-more-lenient-to-women-criminals.html
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I SEE, YES SINCE WOMEN ARE AND OPPRESSED CLASS IN SOCIETY CRIMINAL PENALTIES AND LAWS OF JUSTICE SHOULD BE ALTERED IN ALL ASPECTS OF THE JUSTICE SYSTEM IN ORDER TO MAKE UP FOR MALE AND SOCIETAL OPPRESSION OF WOMEN..
I’M THOROUGHLY DISGUSTED WITH FEMALE SUPREMACY. IT IS TRULY ENDEMIC.
News Reports
UK Judges, Show mercy to women criminals
Topic: Gender Discrimination
Source: Daily Mail (UK)
Judges have been told to treat female criminals more leniently than men when deciding sentences. New guidelines declare that women suffer disadvantages and courts should ‘bear these matters in mind’. The rules say women criminals often have poor mental health or are poorly educated, have not committed violence and have children to look after. ‘Women’s experiences as victims, witnesses and offenders are in many respects different to those of men,’ according to the Equal Treatment Bench Book. ‘These differences highlight the importance of the need for sentencers to bear these matters in mind when sentencing.’ The controversial advice comes from the Judicial Studies Board, which is responsible for training the judiciary. (11/09/10)
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@ANON No I have not seen this but it’s good to know that other inteligent men have come to the same conclusion as I have. This is not going to end well. We as men must do what we can to survive this the best we can until the foreign hordes invade and rescue us from the matriarchy.
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“Men and women are different. The standards will also be so. The agreement of standards between man and woman “ought” to be respected. The reality “is” the woman is the arbiter of any contract with a man.”
I agree men and women are different (and so are races and people in different occupations). Im not exactly sure what your saying but the same standards of crime should apply to both men and women. Realize that the same standards do not imply the same results (ie equal numbers in prison).
Another thing that concerns me is law that unfairly target men. Sexual harassment in the workplace seems to target inappropriate male sexuality while ignoring inappropriate female sexuality. If a sexual joke from the wrong person is offensive then so is the wrong woman who is half naked.
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SingleDad wrote, staring staight into the eyes of lady justice, with blindfold and scales
just thought you might be interested by the female holding the scales on top of the Old Bailey is not blindfolded.
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So you Yankees think having Dame Laura Cox as a UK judge is bad, just you wait and see what that Elana Kagan gets upto and how much you guys in the land of the brave and land of the free do about it!!!
Dont you yankees ever forget that UK politics and UK judicial system was setup by and for the aristocracy, as was the much lorded magna carta.
Us surfs in UK have little say in it, soon be same in USA. Elana Kagan will make sure of that.
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… Oh but I thought men and women weren’t different and the evil patriarchy simply contrived gender roles to oppress women.
What’s that?
Ohh, inherent genetic differences only apply when they BENEFIT women?
Oh, okay, I didn’t get the memo on that one?
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“women’s experiences are not exactly equal to men” – DEFINETLY TRUE!!!! afterall: men have to deal with prison rape , women dont.
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Dame! More like Bitch! She gets no respect for being Bias, after all, equal rights are equal rights and it seems that this war has continued since 1918. As My Days pass, I have less & less respect for British Justice as I see Men actually have no Rights and if they had, they have been seriously eroded By feminists like Cox. Personally this Girl ought to Be ousted from Her position as a Judge.
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